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Speaker 1: Seven thirty FO fifty five KRCD Talk Station. Happy Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Always
Speaker 1: a welcome back. Steve Gooden from the law firm of
Speaker 1: Porter Right, who regularly changed in on prominent legal matters
Speaker 1: going on that affect the area. Steve Gooden is now
Speaker 1: running for Cincay City Council as a Charter Committee member,
Speaker 1: and he has previously served on council. He's got a
Speaker 1: great record, smart man, he is. Vote for him. Welcome back,
Speaker 1: Steve good It's always a pleasure to have you on
Speaker 1: the program.
Speaker 2: Hey, Brian, thank you so much for having us on.
Speaker 1: Well please do. And the other day I think you
Speaker 1: were commenting to local news about fifty to sixty gunshots
Speaker 1: fired down on Lynn Street area three o'clock in the
Speaker 1: morning on Saturday. Actually the residence there said was more
Speaker 1: like sixty five to seventy five. Really got automatic weapons
Speaker 1: going on down there. Apparently the residents say this is
Speaker 1: not uncommon, it happens all the time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'll tell you. The West End neighborhood, something
Speaker 2: that ted my attention for many years. Ironically met the
Speaker 2: group of people who were impacted back when I was
Speaker 2: on council in twenty twenty. They came to me at
Speaker 2: City Council to complain about the city concentrating too much
Speaker 2: affordable housing in their neighborhood, creating an issue with a
Speaker 2: concentration of poverty and drug dealing and violence, et cetera.
Speaker 2: And they were calling this out back then and saying, hey,
Speaker 2: the city is intentionally doing this to us, and now
Speaker 2: we've got one of the worst incidents we've had in
Speaker 2: a long time. He had a straight up shootout. We
Speaker 2: believe it was between a group of rival drug dealers
Speaker 2: operating under something called POO, which is a large public
Speaker 2: housing complex there near Lynn and Clark Street by the
Speaker 2: Hayes Porter Elementary School where the Peewee football championship was held.
Speaker 2: A few hours after the shooting, fifty to sixty shots,
Speaker 2: car windows shot out. One of the bullets passed through
Speaker 2: an individual's front his living room. Street bullet just went
Speaker 2: right through the living room. And of course no one arrested.
Speaker 2: Police do end up ultimately responding three or four ound shot.
Speaker 2: We are told none cooperated. So all this does is
Speaker 2: show up in the stats as a series of property
Speaker 2: crimes because it looks like some windows were broken, and
Speaker 2: the severity of this is just lost on everyone. I
Speaker 2: spent I spent a good chunk of Saturday afternoon with
Speaker 2: these folks walking around and you know, looking at the
Speaker 2: shell casings and the windows there, and this is the
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that is going on in our neighborhood.
Speaker 2: It's not just the thing on Fourth Street, which was terrible,
Speaker 2: but these are you know, this is the reality of
Speaker 2: where we are in the city these days, which is
Speaker 2: gunfights near schools. And these are folks, you know that
Speaker 2: I'm working with here that have rehabed these houses. These
Speaker 2: are taxpayers trying to do the right thing, and they
Speaker 2: are horrified. At least one of them immediately started to
Speaker 2: make you know, got on the MLS and started looking
Speaker 2: at properties outside of it because you've got a kid.
Speaker 2: You just you can't live this way.
Speaker 1: Well, let's pause. We'll bring Steve good back and see
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Speaker 1: Seven thirty nine at the cloud KERCD talk station Brian
Speaker 1: Thomas with hopefully another council member will elected Steve good
Speaker 1: In this November and hopefully improve the conditions in the
Speaker 1: city since Sinnati Steve good running as a charter and
Speaker 1: of course an outstanding legal background he has. Steve Gooden,
Speaker 1: if on council, do you have any suggested solutions or
Speaker 1: maybe a better path or dealing with what many are
Speaker 1: characterizing is out of control violence in the City of Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it is absolutely out of control. Brian.
Speaker 2: It is a horrible time again, particularly in the neighborhoods
Speaker 2: from there to begin, know, Wenten Hills, the West End.
Speaker 2: We've had another eruption of bad behavior in Clifton Gaslight
Speaker 2: of all places where I live, which was a place
Speaker 2: that was untouched by violence for many years. And we
Speaker 2: know what needs to happen. You know, when me and
Speaker 2: mister Smitherman, you know, we're on council, and I hope
Speaker 2: the voters see fit to return him to council as well,
Speaker 2: because he will do an incredible job, because it is
Speaker 2: common sense. We called this years ago. I mean, we
Speaker 2: knew at the time, even four years ago, that we
Speaker 2: were heading toward a police staffing crisis. Right now, we're
Speaker 2: sitting two hundred officers short of a full compliment. Can
Speaker 2: Kover from the FOP tells me that most days, because
Speaker 2: of all the other officers nearing retirement and on special assignments,
Speaker 2: we have roughly four hundred officers spread across three shifts
Speaker 2: and those spread across four districts who can actually answer
Speaker 2: calls that you know, if you have a problem with
Speaker 2: your house and make a phone call, you know the
Speaker 2: call nine to one one. We're down to four hundred
Speaker 2: shifts or four hundred officers spread across three shifts who
Speaker 2: might actually be able to answer the call in a
Speaker 2: city of three hundred and five thousand. That's not enough
Speaker 2: city where we in most nights we have more than that.
Speaker 2: We have actually, you know, with red game, soccer games, concerts,
Speaker 2: we could easily have five hundred thousand people eating, dining,
Speaker 2: or hanging out in the city. We don't have the
Speaker 2: officers we need. And you can put all the money
Speaker 2: aside for overtime you want, but if you don't have
Speaker 2: enough officers to work at it's not going to happen.
Speaker 2: So I don't see any choice but to start working
Speaker 2: with other agencies in the short term and starting to
Speaker 2: immediately incentivize and grow that compliment. We need hundreds of
Speaker 2: more officers if we're actually going to police the city.
Speaker 1: Well, the council recently allocated two million dollars to hire
Speaker 1: lateral hires, which are going to be more quickly put
Speaker 1: on the streets. Apparently they have the training already, they're
Speaker 1: already law enforcement officers in other jurisdictions, so hiring them
Speaker 1: over just requires some additional follow up training before they
Speaker 1: on the street. So that's a great idea, but it
Speaker 1: is two million dollars for that, plus you know they're
Speaker 1: going to allocate some of that for extra lighting or something.
Speaker 1: Is that sufficient? Do we have the funds and resources
Speaker 1: to maybe improve on that?
Speaker 2: We absolutely do, Brian. I mean, look, I mean they
Speaker 2: spent this city council spent three point two million dollars
Speaker 2: on this so called Act program which was achieving change together,
Speaker 2: and the only change it achieved was more violence. And
Speaker 2: it was a violence production program. This is the one
Speaker 2: where they spend the money on urban gardening and dance
Speaker 2: lessons and free sandwiches, got bus stops, hoping that would,
Speaker 2: like somehow mitigate the violence that three point two million
Speaker 2: dollars could have put a whole, complete group class through
Speaker 2: top to bottom. The lateral hires are great, I mean
Speaker 2: they I think it's an absolute emergency measure. Putting more
Speaker 2: money out for overtime great, but there's nobody to work
Speaker 2: the overtime. This is going to take a long term,
Speaker 2: systemic approach and they're going to have to work with
Speaker 2: other jurisdictions, whether it be the sheriffs and state patrol
Speaker 2: in the meantime, I mean, they can still save a
Speaker 2: few weeks of this summer. But they're just they don't
Speaker 2: seem to be willing to get out of their own heads.
Speaker 2: They don't seem to be willing to let these sort
Speaker 2: of silly schemes go. You know, you can't dance your
Speaker 2: way out of this problem or garden your way out
Speaker 2: of this problem. You need police on the streets who
Speaker 2: know the community, who have the time and ability to
Speaker 2: get out walk a beat. We have this police collaborative
Speaker 2: and it's all kind of based on community policing, which
Speaker 2: is old fashioned beat policing, walking to beat policing, But
Speaker 2: we just don't have the staff to do it right now.
Speaker 2: So and we know, I mean every study shows that
Speaker 2: that is the most effective time, both as a deterrent
Speaker 2: and because they know who's who.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know you mentioned gardening programs, and I'm
Speaker 1: just going back to the facts that you presented about
Speaker 1: what happened in the West End with you know, sixty
Speaker 1: five or so random gunshot between rival gangs. I mean,
Speaker 1: does anybody in their right mind think a gardening program
Speaker 1: is going to deal with that type of matter?
Speaker 2: Well? Right, it passed nine to zero of city council.
Speaker 2: So I can tell you nine people down there who
Speaker 2: apparently are not in their right minds when it comes
Speaker 2: to spending taxpayer money on this stuff. It is insane.
Speaker 2: I've been talking about that everywhere I go to me.
Speaker 2: It is a complete symbol and it's three point one
Speaker 2: million dollars city tax dollars went to this nonsense that
Speaker 2: could have gone on the street in some way with
Speaker 2: enhanced policing. We knew this summer was coming. We have
Speaker 2: had a trend for the last three summers of increased violence.
Speaker 2: And instead of trying to cherry pick and gaslight us
Speaker 2: with very selected crime stats, you know that this is
Speaker 2: what they did. They could have just faced the problem
Speaker 2: that they knew was coming this year and actually tried
Speaker 2: to put some some officers on the street and tried
Speaker 2: to get some intelligence about where the violence was occurring.
Speaker 1: And moving forward, well, I dex the Democrat Party has
Speaker 1: gone so far left and they've embraced this anti police
Speaker 1: philosophy so much that that would require them to turn
Speaker 1: their back on something and acknowledge that they were wrong.
Speaker 1: Just like every other city that went down that road
Speaker 1: has collapsed from a crime standpoint.
Speaker 2: No, that's absolutely right. I mean, there definitely was an
Speaker 2: anti police vibe, particularly in the mayor's campaign back in
Speaker 2: twenty one when he ran against David Mann. He absolutely
Speaker 2: raised the idea that there would be racial profiling if
Speaker 2: there were more police. He did that in his sprinting
Speaker 2: materials and the mail that he sent out, and that's
Speaker 2: just what was done, just solely to stoke fear. But
Speaker 2: you know, look, it isn't just all policing. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you're going to spend some money on youth programs
Speaker 2: and summer job programs and things of that nature, those
Speaker 2: things can help. So can enforcing the basic quality of
Speaker 2: life offenses like in loitering and littering and things of
Speaker 2: that nature. I really believe in the broken windows theory.
Speaker 2: If if a town looks or an area looks kind
Speaker 2: of like bad, it does send a message for people
Speaker 2: that you can con make crimes. And we have definitely
Speaker 2: done that. The city is dirtier and messier and more
Speaker 2: broken than it's been in many, many years, and that's
Speaker 2: been also a trend over the last four years, and
Speaker 2: I think that absolutely encourages this kind of activity. But
Speaker 2: if you're going to spend money on those things and
Speaker 2: fixing it up and maybe getting some stuff for the
Speaker 2: kids to do. It can't be this nonsense like the
Speaker 2: gardening and the dance lessons. I mean, it's just bizarre
Speaker 2: to me.
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Speaker 1: Seven fifteen fifty got KRCD talk station got some great
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Speaker 1: running for council, Steve Goodmy's on the phone, our legal expert.
Speaker 1: I wanted to get your comment in reaction to President
Speaker 1: pro tem Victoria Park's statement out loud that the people
Speaker 1: that received the beatdown on July twenty fourth deserved it.
Speaker 1: They were begging for it, including Holly, who seems to
Speaker 1: be a completely innocent bystand who got cole cock and
Speaker 1: knocked completely out by that sucker punch to the face,
Speaker 1: begging for it. Steve Gooden, if you're on counsel, what
Speaker 1: would your reaction to her comments be?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you I was very of all the
Speaker 2: things that have happened here with this in terms of
Speaker 2: the public officials involved, that was the most disappointing. And
Speaker 2: I'll tell you you know, I served on council briefly
Speaker 2: with Victoria Parks, have known her on and off four years.
Speaker 2: She's an Air Force vetter and she was a longtime
Speaker 2: chief of staff for Todd Purtune, who was I don't
Speaker 2: one of the last of the old school sensible Democrats
Speaker 2: who actually was sort of I don't. Always didn't always
Speaker 2: agree with him, but he was looking out for the taxpayer.
Speaker 2: So I was very disappointed to hear this coming from her,
Speaker 2: and absolutely I think she should step down or in
Speaker 2: a minimum, be censured. I think she should step down.
Speaker 2: I guess she's not running again, so I think she's
Speaker 2: just going to kind of gut it out for the
Speaker 2: next few months. But I'll tell you, I think it
Speaker 2: speaks just to how deeply unserious this group of people are.
Speaker 2: I mean, even if that's what she feels, thinks, or
Speaker 2: what have you, which is wrong. But even if she
Speaker 2: thinks that, why she would feel the need to publicly
Speaker 2: express that is very strange to me, And it just
Speaker 2: shows a complete abdication of her role and not even
Speaker 2: understanding that what she says in a situation like this matters.
Speaker 2: I mean, her statements became international news. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: not just national news, international news. There's people like in Australia,
Speaker 2: I saw a British newspaper clip like can you believe this?
Speaker 2: You know, in this city that's racially divided and going
Speaker 2: through all this stuff, and certainty one of the elected
Speaker 2: leaders comes up and basically says that you know that
Speaker 2: these people had it coming just it is just just
Speaker 2: from a leadership standpoint. I mean, you know, I was
Speaker 2: just thinking these people, you know a lot of them
Speaker 2: are parents. I mean, you know, if you're a parent,
Speaker 2: there's certain things you can say in front of your kids,
Speaker 2: certain things you don't even there's things that need to
Speaker 2: be said at some point among adults. And I'm not
Speaker 2: suggesting that's what this is is, but you have to
Speaker 2: be mindful of your role when you speak out. And
Speaker 2: it is so stegg anything used to say deeply unseerious
Speaker 2: that it's really hard to hard to wrap my head around.
Speaker 1: Well, it also reflected her ignorance on you legal concepts
Speaker 1: like freedom of speech. I mean, she literally said, in
Speaker 1: this country, we have freedom of speech. However you may
Speaker 1: not run into a crowded theater and screen fire suggesting
Speaker 1: that someone's use of the N word in that crowd.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a We're still kind of sketchy
Speaker 1: on the facts and details like the white guy slapped
Speaker 1: the other guy which started it. Well, apparently the white
Speaker 1: guy got hit prior to that happening, so details still unfolding.
Speaker 1: But even if someone said the N word, it doesn't
Speaker 1: justify criminal behavior on the other side. I mean that's
Speaker 1: essentially what she's saying. Well, he exercises freedom of speech,
Speaker 1: he deserved what he got. That's I mean, that's insanity,
Speaker 1: isn't it, Steve.
Speaker 2: Well, that's just no way that you can't run a
Speaker 2: city based on principles like that. Okay, you know you
Speaker 2: just can't. I mean, look you I was a prosecutor
Speaker 2: for many, many years, and the first thing you learn
Speaker 2: is that these videos that surface often don't tell the
Speaker 2: whole story. In fact, you know you can it can
Speaker 2: be very misleading just by showing you one single clip.
Speaker 2: So as a public official, or as an elected official especially,
Speaker 2: you should know better than to weigh in on something
Speaker 2: like this until all the facts are there. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a grand jury that was in Piano that heard
Speaker 2: everything and they handed down some indictments. I think there's
Speaker 2: probably more indictments to come. So the idea that we're
Speaker 2: going to sit here and you know, just having teams
Speaker 2: a couple of things on our phone and then way
Speaker 2: in and pour gas on the fire is just is
Speaker 2: just bad leadership. And I don't maybe it was satisfying
Speaker 2: in the moment for her to spout off like that,
Speaker 2: and she's right, she's got a First Amendment right to
Speaker 2: do it. We have a First Amendment right to point
Speaker 2: out that this is terrible leadership and made things worse
Speaker 2: just when you thought things couldn't get worse. There going
Speaker 2: to I mean, I guess on the upside, she didn't.
Speaker 2: They didn't go out and try to, you know, intervene
Speaker 2: that night with dance lessons and sandwiches and things like that.
Speaker 2: That's the only thing I can think that that would
Speaker 2: have been worriers as if they had shown up and
Speaker 2: tried to that's what the people or something. But I mean,
Speaker 2: I say that sort of in jest. Yes, it's not
Speaker 2: that far removed from the reality that we're dealing with
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we needed a big bag of potting soil wol
Speaker 1: to solve the whole problem that night. Steve Goodnight, you
Speaker 1: have better choices. Let's exercise them in November. My friends
Speaker 1: in the city of Cincinnati vote Steve good and of course,
Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman. Steve always a pleasure talking with you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate your thoughts and comments, and I certainly wish you
Speaker 1: all the best as we approach November.
Speaker 2: All right, and thank you so much for having us on.
Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the media has not been
Speaker 2: covering stories like what happened in the West End, so
Speaker 2: it's very, very important that we have forums like this
Speaker 2: to get the story out.
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Speaker 2: Morning.
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