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Speaker 1: with last week, as we always do. It was terrible,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. It was so full of hope and yeah,
Speaker 1: no it's not happened.
Speaker 2: It was just like shit on it.
Speaker 3: But we weren't shit. We picked the right teams. They
Speaker 3: just didn't do it.
Speaker 1: Just didn't turn up, did they. They didn't turn up.
Speaker 1: It was Crawelly. They lost to Stevenage, didn't they. Charlton
Speaker 1: picked up draw That was nicer than I think. They
Speaker 1: were too. All down at one point against Lincoln they
Speaker 1: rallied back so that was never in doubt. Sheffield United.
Speaker 1: We also had them in the Tuesday Sport Life plus Socker.
Speaker 1: They've done us twice in the space of four days.
Speaker 1: We will talk about the blades and everything championship in
Speaker 1: a little bit comments. Does anyone want to take it away?
Speaker 1: I haven't looked at them.
Speaker 3: Rich Grove yeah, Rich Grove three three six eight said
Speaker 3: he was sitting at the valley today and at half
Speaker 3: time it was clear the bet was doomed. With my
Speaker 3: child and playing so badly, just a bad day. You
Speaker 3: will bounced back. I'm sure that's very nice, isn't it nice?
Speaker 3: A lot of nice comments, a lot of nice comments.
Speaker 3: It's a bit sickening and yeah yeah. Kirsty Mitchell T
Speaker 3: nine V said you guys deserve a lot of praise
Speaker 3: last week for putting up with all the hate. Well done.
Speaker 3: I'm long enough in the tooth been betting thirty years
Speaker 3: to know tipsteris can't be judged over short term, but
Speaker 3: plenty others aren't. And that was a general feme of
Speaker 3: all the comments. I thought when I looked last night,
Speaker 3: because it was so bad, I think it was the
Speaker 3: worst result wise we've had in a long time.
Speaker 1: Long time.
Speaker 3: Ye got that.
Speaker 1: Charlton rallying back because that saved three defeats.
Speaker 3: The first like stinker, Yeah, I could have been, but
Speaker 3: so I was going to expect to go on in
Speaker 3: the comments and see some good old fashioned hate, but
Speaker 3: no it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've we've had two shockers so far this season.
Speaker 4: That was That was the latest one. Shockers we define
Speaker 4: as one where we don't get any results.
Speaker 3: Right. Who came up with this rating system? Why is it?
Speaker 3: Why is a shocker worse than a stinker?
Speaker 1: I thought you did.
Speaker 3: I didn't come up with that.
Speaker 1: Feels like a phrase you use.
Speaker 3: Maybe I did inadvertently.
Speaker 1: It feels like something you'd say when you describe how
Speaker 1: the have got on. I've always assumed.
Speaker 3: It was you. I came up with the name the tracker.
Speaker 3: Well I didn't. I was saying, like Joe's like, what
Speaker 3: do we call the thing that we track it on? AKA?
Speaker 3: And then I said, sounds a bit like maca packer,
Speaker 3: and then he said, AKA tracker. I'll let you're welcome.
Speaker 3: But in my head, I would rank a stinker is
Speaker 3: a worse thing than a shocker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I'd prefer to not have either,
Speaker 1: But if we're having to have to rank them.
Speaker 2: I'd say, I'd.
Speaker 3: Say, like a shocker is leaving we pack up at home,
Speaker 3: but a stinker is all for your tires popping out
Speaker 3: on the motorway and it's.
Speaker 2: Just a nightmare. You're going have called it a night
Speaker 2: in the back of a lorie. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll rebrand it for the new season. But the
Speaker 1: fundamental is we're a promotion chasing side and we've just
Speaker 1: taken the initiative and we're ahead, and then we've got
Speaker 1: about five teams chasing us, a bit like League To
Speaker 1: imagine we're leading League two and were panicked. We've turned
Speaker 1: up on the Saturday we're away. The pressure's got to us.
Speaker 1: So we've completely collapsed to a team in fifteenth. That's
Speaker 1: how I describe as we approach the Easter weekend, the
Speaker 1: crucial part of the season. That's next weekend, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I believe we're on Wednesday record next week Yeah, correct, Yes.
Speaker 3: I want to do it at a football ground. Okay,
Speaker 3: well I don't know how to go about making Yeah.
Speaker 1: The problem is Domin the producers just fucked off to
Speaker 1: Florida randomly back next week just as a.
Speaker 2: Child, and he has to go on holiday in the
Speaker 2: school holidays, which.
Speaker 1: Is just literally just randomly just just went you know,
Speaker 1: usually these holidays you plan months year in advance for
Speaker 1: you know, depending now just last week he went off.
Speaker 4: By the way, is there anyone who doesn't fucking know
Speaker 4: you know, someone who got in pre tickets to Universal?
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, he knows everything, knows everything about everyone.
Speaker 1: He's the most well connected man I've ever met.
Speaker 2: But he can't get it in a football ground regularly.
Speaker 1: It's based on del boy. You know, if you need something,
Speaker 1: he'll get you, but probably through legal manners. I will
Speaker 1: correct that. Yeah, maybe we can. But the point was
Speaker 1: Wednesday record because obviously the games on Friday, and we've
Speaker 1: got another round on Monday as well. Not Charlie Show
Speaker 1: about Eastern Monday, but we'll deal with that. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll be dropping a day ahead then your usual
Speaker 1: expected thing, and then presumably we put it on site
Speaker 1: for the enhancement on the Thursday. I think everything would
Speaker 1: go a day ahead, wouldn't it.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that'll be Wednesday next week. Before we get
Speaker 1: into that, we've of course got this week and before
Speaker 1: we get onto that midweek football. There was a lot
Speaker 1: of it. We had an acha that didn't go well,
Speaker 1: went oh right, went all right. The Sheffield boys disgraced yourself.
Speaker 1: Birmingham got promoted. Oh yeah, you to congratulations to Birmingham.
Speaker 1: By the way, they're promoted already got six games left,
Speaker 1: they're on for one hundred and ten points, so well
Speaker 1: on course to smash the record which I think is
Speaker 1: one hundred and three set by Wolves. They got the
Speaker 1: job done against Peterborough. As I said, their Sheffield Wednesday
Speaker 1: were backed against Blackburn. If you backed it on a
Speaker 1: two up sort of slip, you'd be paid out. Blackburn
Speaker 1: have not won in ages. I didn't get I haven't
Speaker 1: got a point in ages. Pulled him back to two
Speaker 1: and chef United what the hell is going on? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's touch on that with Sheffield United, because.
Speaker 2: Wilder came out swinging at the fans. Didn't it the
Speaker 2: weekend as well?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Rightly, so rightly so I agree with that. Actually that
Speaker 1: I think he was writing what he was saying for.
Speaker 2: The listeners that don't know what he said, what what?
Speaker 1: So he's basically was it they got bood to Oxford
Speaker 1: or something. He's had to go at them saying it's
Speaker 1: a disgrace. Look at how well we're doing effectively this
Speaker 1: season and that game of day. That's fine.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even an off day. They took their chance,
Speaker 3: we didn't take our chance. It was a United game
Speaker 3: that we've seen about forty one times this season and
Speaker 3: it just didn't go our way. But the problem is
Speaker 3: with that one is you'll probably know duff Man is
Speaker 3: an avid football follower. I don't know about you, but
Speaker 3: the Sheffield United away points system is flawed, so it's
Speaker 3: just an accumulation of all time. So what you get
Speaker 3: is the older fans get the priority tickets. So a
Speaker 3: lot of these a lot of these away days, that is,
Speaker 3: at most points, the older fans get the priority, they
Speaker 3: get the first dips. So a lot of the away
Speaker 3: dates were really small allocations. Just it should be like
Speaker 3: your retirement.
Speaker 1: Involve tickets avenue as well. Like you said, there's just
Speaker 1: no away allocation.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, there's just a load of old boys basically, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And I think that was the problem. But the United
Speaker 3: game in midweek, while they come out and said, yeah,
Speaker 3: you were right to boo. It was a bit. It
Speaker 3: was a bit bad.
Speaker 1: I did see people saying that this effect and kind
Speaker 1: of as is the case when it gets the promotion time,
Speaker 1: basically every kind of single result matters. But I saw
Speaker 1: a lot of criticism online was the typical Wilder thing
Speaker 1: of He'll come out swinging at the fans and then
Speaker 1: the next game he'll pick the same eleven in a
Speaker 1: it's my team, I'm doing it my way sort of thing.
Speaker 1: They played badly, get beat it, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: like you've had one off day that's then been followed
Speaker 1: by an avoidable result. But it's almost like I'm making
Speaker 1: a point, So this is what's happening. And then now
Speaker 1: they've gone from a very comfortable position to quite vulnerable
Speaker 1: because it's a Easter Monday. Keep getting Friday. It's Easter Monday.
Speaker 1: They played Burnley in that that crucial game, but it
Speaker 1: did feel a bit like that in midweek. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm right in saying that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but just going back to the fans quickly, I
Speaker 3: remember I went to when we played you lot at home,
Speaker 3: and after after you equalized. Though you went a goal ahead.
Speaker 3: With the goal ahead, it's still like five six minutes
Speaker 3: of injury time to play, like the cop just went
Speaker 3: half empty. I couldn't get my head around it. And
Speaker 3: there's a there is a genuine weird sense of entitlement
Speaker 3: with United fans at the minute. Very annoying. But on Wilder,
Speaker 3: he rested nice. He didn't put Vinnie Susar back into
Speaker 3: the team. Him and Tanaka best too, midfielders in the league.
Speaker 3: Stubbornness bang on. The last thing is imagine if we
Speaker 3: didn't get that points deduction, three teams on eighty five.
Speaker 1: Points would be unbelievable for him won it. We will
Speaker 1: touch upon that Championship promotion race a little bit more
Speaker 1: in a bit. When we talk about the Championship, let's start.
Speaker 4: We also just need to congratulated Birmingham. We also need
Speaker 4: to congratulate Southampton on being there.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I was generally going to bring this
Speaker 1: up when we spoke about the Premier League, which actually
Speaker 1: segues us into it nicely. Southampton relegated Ivan Urich. Apparently
Speaker 1: he didn't really want to go, but Southampton did clause
Speaker 1: Western out of the door. Absolutely no chance a we're
Speaker 1: keeping new pal off you go wild.
Speaker 4: And tom on you outright, we'll put it out in
Speaker 4: the complete domain as well.
Speaker 2: Nice ten to one winner.
Speaker 1: I thought he'd walk after its which they won that
Speaker 1: game and they made some signings, but we'll take it.
Speaker 1: Fastest ever team to go down, right, yeah, seven team
Speaker 1: in terms of game weeks. They are down at game
Speaker 1: week thirty one. The previous record was the infamous Derby
Speaker 1: team of seven oh eight and Huddersfield when they went
Speaker 1: down joint relegated on game week thirty two. So Southampton
Speaker 1: did that. By all reports, immediately the players didn't take
Speaker 1: to Urich after a couple of training sessions, they just
Speaker 1: didn't take to him whatsoever. And I think his appointment
Speaker 1: was a bit of a no nonsense. We need someone
Speaker 1: to come in and screaming and start sorting this team.
Speaker 2: Out, which would be honest, hasn't worked out.
Speaker 4: The appointment was just it was because they couldn't get
Speaker 4: Danny Roll, and because it would have been too expensive
Speaker 4: to get Danny Roll, because we know that he's their
Speaker 4: chosen manager to take over, but to get him out
Speaker 4: at that time it was going to cost ten million quid.
Speaker 2: Southampton weren't going to pay that. They just wait for
Speaker 2: the summer.
Speaker 3: Danny Roll might be off to I'll be like sign
Speaker 3: now see that candidate, isn't it If I was him,
Speaker 3: That's where I would be going.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: The hilarious thing is Russell Martin took another job so
Speaker 3: they could just say do you want to come back?
Speaker 1: Sorry about that, Russell. I did have the theory on
Speaker 1: Monday morning where I said that don't know before allers
Speaker 1: came out. My theory was, if Southampton won Danny Roll,
Speaker 1: they're already relegated, there's potentially something that in the Yurichs
Speaker 1: thing they can get rid of him. Why don't they
Speaker 1: go to Sheffield Wednesday? Who have a cash flow issue,
Speaker 1: need to pay place, need to make payment by Monday
Speaker 1: to avoid a three transfer window ban?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 1: Why didn't Southampton go to Wednesday Cy will negotiate a
Speaker 1: cut price for role, but will give you the money today,
Speaker 1: effectively that we can get it done. It's far less
Speaker 1: than any clause, but it helped solve that problem. And
Speaker 1: then it came out that Urich had left Southampton and
Speaker 1: about half an hour later Sheffield Wednesday. Would you like
Speaker 1: to confirm everyone's been paid, we've avoided any embargoes. Maybe
Speaker 1: it happened in the background, so a shit of a genius.
Speaker 1: I've done it, and I have a genius. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I've done it in the summer. Yeah, maybe it did
Speaker 1: in the background. But Southampton are down this week they
Speaker 1: play Aston Villa m This is an incredibly tricky one
Speaker 1: to call because did we watch Villa at PSG last night?
Speaker 1: I think not too many complaints about the results, ultimately,
Speaker 1: as frustrating as that final goal will be, and you
Speaker 1: could kind of see it in the reaction of the
Speaker 1: PSG bench that they knew how crucial that third goal
Speaker 1: was later on because at two to one going to
Speaker 1: Villa Park, I think maybe they could sneaker one nil,
Speaker 1: as they kind of did against Bayern Munich and then
Speaker 1: you go to penalties and stuff like that, but they
Speaker 1: were comfortably outplayed. It's a very tough one for Villa
Speaker 1: to call. This isn't it. It's how many changes do
Speaker 1: you make the tie still effectively alive in the Champions League.
Speaker 1: It's only two goals as good as PSGR. It's not
Speaker 1: like there Dortmund who got hammered formillat Bar that tie
Speaker 1: is done. A lot of people were drawn to this
Speaker 1: game because Villa are above one to two against one
Speaker 1: of the worst sides the Premier League's ever seen. Would
Speaker 1: you touch this game? Would you gamble on that price
Speaker 1: or not? Because Villa rotation now is very very good
Speaker 1: compared to what it was. And even if they do
Speaker 1: rotate relatively heavily, they're still in a strong position because
Speaker 1: ultimately they've still got now a top five confirmed to
Speaker 1: go for. They are still well alive in that they
Speaker 1: are only two points behind Newcastle and Chelsea. They've still
Speaker 1: got a lot to play for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, big time, and like so that the depth is
Speaker 4: just so it's so impressive now.
Speaker 2: All over the pitch.
Speaker 4: You could literally bring in a new front three from
Speaker 4: what played in midweek and and it'd still be better
Speaker 4: than what Southampton could deal with. I mean, the main
Speaker 4: reason why I'm hesitating, it's just the fact that Southampton
Speaker 4: has now got rid of you Urich, so they've got that.
Speaker 4: It's not a new manager bounds, but they might be
Speaker 4: a little bit relieved to get out of the work.
Speaker 1: You see it from relegated teams all the time. The
Speaker 1: pressure is off now, isn't it. And it's well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter now you don't feel the pressure
Speaker 1: of having to win.
Speaker 4: And they've taken one of Darby's records. I don't think
Speaker 4: they're gonna want to take another one. So I think
Speaker 4: that they're going to be trying all they can to
Speaker 4: get two more points from now to the end of
Speaker 4: the season.
Speaker 3: Who's the new manage, who's the temporary guy?
Speaker 4: Rusk Adam Lana is in part of the back room
Speaker 4: as well as.
Speaker 1: The Ruskies academy. I think he's had one senior manager
Speaker 1: or spell and it was at Stockport in the National League.
Speaker 1: Didn't go well, but by all accounts is very highly
Speaker 1: rated at Brighton when he was the academy coach there.
Speaker 1: I think because it was Ruben Seller's last time, wasn't it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think when Sellers left, my guess would be
Speaker 1: Rush potentially came in. I'm not entirely sure on that,
Speaker 1: but senior football management very limited.
Speaker 3: Well. I was just wondering because if they all hated
Speaker 3: Yoich and then they've got someone who's going to be
Speaker 3: good cop coming in. Now, don't worry about Alana. They
Speaker 3: come on, let's give these You're not playing with any
Speaker 3: pressure anymore either, I know, and Uric probably was putting
Speaker 3: them under quite a lot of pressure. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 3: and I know. I know. Over there we've got brilliant
Speaker 3: squad depth now, but them after York's always been a
Speaker 3: bit of a bit of a no go zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 4: I mean, Like I said that, the the record after
Speaker 4: the Champions League is horrendous this season, but most of
Speaker 4: that did come when they're in the middle of a
Speaker 4: really big injury crisis and they didn't have the players
Speaker 4: to rotate. Whereas now you've got Marlin obviously, since you
Speaker 4: have come off the bench in midweek, you can start
Speaker 4: Watkins starting midweek. Even in midfield, you've got Andrea Narna
Speaker 4: that can come in, even defense if you wanted to,
Speaker 4: You've got Mings who can come in for Torres. They've
Speaker 4: got two left backs too, right back, so they're pretty
Speaker 4: stacked if they did want to rotate.
Speaker 2: It's just it's a really important game for.
Speaker 4: Villa, and you could argue the schedules fall them really
Speaker 4: kindly for them to have this game in the middle
Speaker 4: of the two Champions League matches and not like a
Speaker 4: away game at Chelsea. There's actually quite a big game
Speaker 4: for the top five. So part of me says that
Speaker 4: that price is too big for a team chasing the
Speaker 4: top five, a team that's.
Speaker 2: Going down as one of the worst ever.
Speaker 4: But it's just nagging out still about the fact that
Speaker 4: if you'r was in charge just to be an automatic
Speaker 4: bet for me, illu straight in because but the feel
Speaker 4: good factor might be back. I don't know if you
Speaker 4: can feel good about sitting on ten points after.
Speaker 1: Let's feel worse. That is disgraceful. By what the hell
Speaker 1: are you doing clapping them off like abuse? Right, fine,
Speaker 1: don't clap them. That's the worst thing. Thank you for
Speaker 1: giving us a season of absolute misery. Thank you for that.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I've paid top prices to watch. You have
Speaker 1: no idea what you're doing.
Speaker 3: For the last day with them when they come over.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I would replicate when Leeds went down
Speaker 1: and the iconic moment of that was that it was right,
Speaker 1: very much up against it. Western McKenny is now doing
Speaker 1: very well at Juventus all accounts, and joined on second
Speaker 1: half of the season alone and Leeds summed up probably
Speaker 1: their relegation by when he got subbed off, greeted said
Speaker 1: goodbye to him by chanting you fat over and over again.
Speaker 1: So I'd probably take that more approach, certainly not applause
Speaker 1: asolutely from from one record breaker to another, writ and
Speaker 1: play Leicester three to ten. Leicester, congratulations to them. Of course,
Speaker 1: it's not all about Southampton breaking records. They became the
Speaker 1: first team in Football League history to lose eight home
Speaker 1: league games in a row without scoring against Newcastle on
Speaker 1: Monday Night where they were terrible. They nearly scored early
Speaker 1: on to be fair as oh here we go, right,
Speaker 1: they're a bit of fighting them, No, didn't happen. Atrocious side,
Speaker 1: hilarious backline for the Premier League that they're operating with.
Speaker 1: They go to Brighton again it's a question of price.
Speaker 1: But I imagine when people look down the slate, and
Speaker 1: you obviously naturally always start in the Premier League because
Speaker 1: chronological order, it's always at the top of your bet slips,
Speaker 1: there will be a team that jump out. Brighton who
Speaker 1: are still in a decent enough position, aren't they in
Speaker 1: terms of the European places? Where are they ninth in
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 4: Four points behind seventh place, which currently gets your conference.
Speaker 1: Well in the mix for that and Leicester are hopeless.
Speaker 4: Oh, Leicester are going to be gone soon, aren't they.
Speaker 4: Mathematically they could go down this week and.
Speaker 1: Then they can this week. Well, I think it's a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks would be effectively, is on gold.
Speaker 4: Not actual with the red red arrow. Yeah, just they're
Speaker 4: just rubbish. I mean that that appointment of Ruben Astroid
Speaker 4: looks like one of the worst in Premier League history.
Speaker 3: Because Steve Cooper might may.
Speaker 1: Have had a better chance. God definitely got far more points.
Speaker 1: They probably scored a goal, yeah, Christ.
Speaker 2: They would have been much more competitive in this some
Speaker 2: of these games. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Again, it's just a question of do you trust Brighten
Speaker 4: at that price because these are the kind of teams
Speaker 4: that they've struggled with recently.
Speaker 3: Yeah. On that against the bottom five, they've won two
Speaker 3: of seven, but at home they've drawn against Wolves, drew
Speaker 3: against it which drew against Southampton. Something about this, But
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's tweaked.
Speaker 2: Lost to Everton. Was that under dish and that was
Speaker 2: Moys That was Moys one.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure, but I don't know if Heurtzeler's changed
Speaker 3: it a little bit. He's tweaked his system, so I
Speaker 3: don't know, to be more equipped but again it just
Speaker 3: at that price.
Speaker 2: I don't think I want to go near that game either.
Speaker 1: Do just check out with my mate have mentioned about
Speaker 1: from UNI before he got rid of a season ticket
Speaker 1: at Leicester the year they then won the Premier League,
Speaker 1: and he's checking if we got one for this season
Speaker 1: because that would be the ultimate other end of the scale.
Speaker 1: One more in the Premier League, which I actually had
Speaker 1: noted down because Nottingham Forrest are twenty three to twenty
Speaker 1: Everton and as much as we say Everton and they
Speaker 1: have improved under Moys, there's no doubt about that. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: Nottingham Forest at home all season have been incredibly good.
Speaker 1: They've lost it twice. I think the last one was
Speaker 1: Newcastle about October. Maybe a long time since they lost
Speaker 1: a home league game. Twenty three to twenty they're another
Speaker 1: side who are not only chasing the European places, they're
Speaker 1: firmly kind of wedged in. They're a nice four point
Speaker 1: gap over Oh well, you've got to look down to
Speaker 1: six of course now Avenue So a five point gap
Speaker 1: over Manchester City.
Speaker 3: Why have you got to look down to sixth? Now?
Speaker 1: Top five gets Champions League?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: Confirmed in midweek because of obviously the new Champions League structure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: top leagues get an extra two. Leagues across Europe get
Speaker 1: one of the Big five get an extra place. It's
Speaker 1: all to do with coefficient points and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and basically England were nailed on to get it by
Speaker 1: this point, but if one English team won one game
Speaker 1: they would have then got the extra place. Obviously. Arsenal
Speaker 1: then beat Real Madrid which confirmed it. So we're guaranteed five.
Speaker 1: You look down to sick when you feels weird, and
Speaker 1: it say in the top five race quarter of the
Speaker 1: league getting the champions not being sure about that to
Speaker 1: quote Jimmydada is a bit woke. But they are comfortably
Speaker 1: and they're not going Forest five points clear at home
Speaker 1: game against Everton who nothing to play for, have they now?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: I mean they're obviously want to finish as high as
Speaker 1: they possibly can, but there I mean, Ipswich Leicester and
Speaker 1: I ain't getting out of trouble anyway. It feels like
Speaker 1: they'll give obviously the one to win every game, but
Speaker 1: particularly in these last few weeks, feels far more important
Speaker 1: on games are good as some park, doesn't it? Forest
Speaker 1: of this price decent?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was saying this to gym upstairs.
Speaker 4: Everton's motivation away from home compared to our home from
Speaker 4: now at ind of the season is going to be
Speaker 4: completely different.
Speaker 2: On paper, I quite like this. I think Forest are
Speaker 2: a big price.
Speaker 4: Where when else would you get a third place team
Speaker 4: going at home to a bottom half team odds against
Speaker 4: if it was Chelsea for example, owntob and you look
Speaker 4: at eight to eleven minimum and Forrest record against the
Speaker 4: bottom half teams.
Speaker 2: This season is just unbelievable that.
Speaker 4: I've not had time to count how many, but they've
Speaker 4: drawn one and won the rest against the bottom half teams.
Speaker 4: They're actual unbeating against bottom half. The only again, the only,
Speaker 4: the only reason I'm not all over this is just
Speaker 4: Everton drawing so many games at the minute, and they
Speaker 4: are the kind of team I could te Forrest struggling
Speaker 4: to break down and I think draws a real runner.
Speaker 4: So a little bit hesitant. What do you think, Jim,
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, you're getting you a bit interested,
Speaker 4: A little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they think it's a hefty price. And like you say,
Speaker 1: for a team of a third at home against the
Speaker 1: team further down, who aren't even you know if they
Speaker 1: If it was like the classic relegation battle of there's
Speaker 1: five teams still in it at this point, then you'd
Speaker 1: be a bit more hesitant. But the entire slate it
Speaker 1: does jump out a little bit, doesn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then there's nine games in it because the
Speaker 3: next Premier League on the fixes Easter Monday, and then
Speaker 3: I'll bit worried when the FA Cup Semis are but
Speaker 3: that's not until a while away while after.
Speaker 1: So it's not even like the game before where we
Speaker 1: go little one eye on that.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, because given I found the
Speaker 3: slate rotten, I didn't know this game down. But just
Speaker 3: talking about it now, it feels like a real sensible play.
Speaker 3: They've only dropped points in one game against bottom half teams.
Speaker 4: Wolves two four, six, eight, ten, twelve, fourteen.
Speaker 3: Fifteen, fourteen wins in fifteen and odds against against a
Speaker 3: team with very little to play foot away from home.
Speaker 3: When the record when anything that you'd fancy them to
Speaker 3: get a result in is at home, it'll.
Speaker 1: Be so disappointed if they don'tet Champions League fotball, don't
Speaker 1: They're not in forests. As much as you kind of
Speaker 1: you can reflect on it, say what campaign and it
Speaker 1: will be regardless that they should be playing European football
Speaker 1: in some capacity next season, but if it's not Champions League,
Speaker 1: there will just always be that element of what if,
Speaker 1: knowing how incredibly difficult it is to do and the
Speaker 1: fact that you might not get that chance again for
Speaker 1: a very long time. You feel like the message from
Speaker 1: Nouno now is just focus professionalism. Games like this non
Speaker 1: negotiable have to end in victory.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it does an on paper, it's a very
Speaker 4: winnable game. Like I said, I'm just I've just got
Speaker 4: in the back of my mind I could see this
Speaker 4: being a Neil Nila or one one specialist Everton and
Speaker 4: away from home. They've only lost three of the last
Speaker 4: ten league games away from home Everton, and that includes
Speaker 4: five from Dice and five from Moys and those defeats
Speaker 4: came at Bournemouth, who obviously at the time in January
Speaker 4: were one of the better teams in the league. Liverpool
Speaker 4: went away league leaders and Amorim his first charge at
Speaker 4: first game in charge of United, so been to Arsenal,
Speaker 4: avoid defeat, been to City, avoided defeat, beating Brighton, beating
Speaker 4: Palace who were both at the time were playing very well.
Speaker 4: Avoided defeat at Brentford, avoid defeat at Wolves, who again
Speaker 4: are playing well at the minute.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I think I personally would like
Speaker 2: to put opin in it and see where we're at.
Speaker 4: I'm not opposed to it, but at the same time
Speaker 4: I am very there's just something in the back of
Speaker 4: my mind that it's putting it and put me off it.
Speaker 1: Can we visit? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's all look
Speaker 1: what else there is then, because we've course got a
Speaker 1: full slate of EFL and we'll talk championship next. So
Speaker 1: into the championship there where As we mentioned earlier, Sheffield
Speaker 1: United are action, Leeds are in action on the Saturday,
Speaker 1: both at twelve thirty though I've done it again, are
Speaker 1: in action on Friday night they play Norwich, So the
Speaker 1: three promotion hopefuls are all out of the three pm
Speaker 1: Saturday action. Is there any games here that kind of
Speaker 1: jump out to you a little bit that we want
Speaker 1: to discuss?
Speaker 3: Yep on yep, fire away. I'm sure we'll all be
Speaker 3: looking at Kennilworth road Ken Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, yes, I had one eye on it. Yeah, one eye,
Speaker 1: which is one I'm not I mean looking a terrible
Speaker 1: Why do you want to watch anything at kennel Worth Road?
Speaker 3: Oh hey, yeah, it feels weird, like being prolutant, but
Speaker 3: part of who they're up against.
Speaker 2: Part of improvement. Improvement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it took him a while under Bloomfield, but they're
Speaker 3: clicking now. It might be too late, but they are
Speaker 3: definitely doing better than they were since Burnley Dicktim At
Speaker 3: the beginning of March, they beat Cardiff and Hull drew
Speaker 3: with Burrough. Should have won that game comfortably, drew against
Speaker 3: you boys. It leads to very little limited due and
Speaker 3: they drew with Stoke. But at the Kenny under bloom
Speaker 3: Dingers it's played seven to one to one drawn four
Speaker 3: loss too. So Patchy Millwall a second, hang on a
Speaker 3: second chef United and Millwell beat them. But there was
Speaker 3: less than half an next year between both of the
Speaker 3: teams and then games, so those two losses caveats potentially draws.
Speaker 3: With Preston, Leeds and Plymouth and Burrough they won the
Speaker 3: XG battle in all bar leads, so I know it's
Speaker 3: a familiar story with them, but it's the case of
Speaker 3: just not taking their chances.
Speaker 1: Yeah, looking back, those dear gain you mentioned that what's
Speaker 1: extended highlights of it, But it definitely looked like they
Speaker 1: were the team that should have won that game out
Speaker 1: of the two.
Speaker 3: But I mean said all that about Luton. The bet
Speaker 3: is more to do with the playing Blackburn. You just
Speaker 3: mentioned it when they drew Wi Chef Wednesday, is that
Speaker 3: they're only second point under Valerian Ishmael. They've been absolutely
Speaker 3: free for what a terrible appointment.
Speaker 4: Well, it was just just a terrible state of things
Speaker 4: at the club in it that you just felt like
Speaker 4: he had to leave he was getting a better opportunity
Speaker 4: at Derby.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is all gone to shit.
Speaker 4: He is worth pointing out that they were punching above
Speaker 4: the weight being in the top six or the data
Speaker 4: metrics had him in the bottom half, so something to
Speaker 4: drop off was coming at at some point and you
Speaker 4: just saw the right opportunity to jump ship just in time.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like I like this bet. I'm on Luton as well.
Speaker 4: I think, like you said, Blackburn's part of it. But
Speaker 4: five unbeating now for Luton, and the most important thing
Speaker 4: for me is they're not conceding chances, so defensively they're
Speaker 4: very very solid across those five games. Allowed just zero
Speaker 4: point seven expected goals against per game, so they're limiting
Speaker 4: their opponents to next to nothing whenever they play. And
Speaker 4: it's just a case of can they score against Blackburn?
Speaker 2: And I think they can. Blackburn have been all over
Speaker 2: the play, especially away from home.
Speaker 4: Lost seven the last state away league games. The price
Speaker 4: is probably just about still value at ten to eleven.
Speaker 4: I think I'll probably probably back at a little bit lower,
Speaker 4: maybe seventeen to twenty. But you've got better, You've got
Speaker 4: almost team that needs to win, teams, team that's on
Speaker 4: the beach now factor as well.
Speaker 1: Would you bat them? Stay up? And you say it's
Speaker 1: you said they're maybe is a little bit too late,
Speaker 1: but then is it? They are only two points a
Speaker 1: drift of safety, fifteen still to play for. The thing
Speaker 1: that may screw them over is goal difference. They're considerably
Speaker 1: worse than teams who are outside of the relegation zone.
Speaker 1: They're on minus twenty five, Darby minus ten, Stoke mnus twelve,
Speaker 1: whole there's nine. Oxford might saying team potentially could be
Speaker 1: the one on that side of things, but it's still
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot to play for here, And
Speaker 1: you know the cliche but the home games are the
Speaker 1: ones where if you're gonna survive it, it has to
Speaker 1: be it has.
Speaker 3: To be them.
Speaker 1: Is there a price to stay up, I'll find it.
Speaker 2: You find that.
Speaker 4: I'll just explain why I don't think they're a good
Speaker 4: bet up or go down to stay up.
Speaker 2: We're getting him in the terrible bets were getting him
Speaker 2: in the AKA.
Speaker 4: But the schedule, the schedule, I think it's one of
Speaker 4: the tougher finishers from teams down there. They've got to
Speaker 4: go to Derby, so that's a big game against relegation
Speaker 4: rival who have hit a bit of form. Then they've
Speaker 4: got to play Bristol City or obviously chasing top six,
Speaker 4: gotta play Coventry chasing top six, and then they finish
Speaker 4: off with West Brom and obviously they've fallen off of it,
Speaker 4: but if they pick up a few more points, they
Speaker 4: might be playing for top six come the final day.
Speaker 4: So every single game they've got, apart from this Blackburn game,
Speaker 4: is going to feels like it might something riding on it,
Speaker 4: which on the adds to the pressure and you kind
Speaker 4: at this stage of the season you kind of want
Speaker 4: a few gimmes, don't you want to be playing Sheffield Wednesday,
Speaker 4: or you know teams in and around there that have
Speaker 4: got nothing to play for. So yeah, that's probably why I.
Speaker 2: Would still think it's a bit of a job for
Speaker 2: them to do.
Speaker 1: Can't find any staying up prices, but Luten eight to fifteen,
Speaker 1: one to two to go down, Yeah, so it makes.
Speaker 4: Sense five to four or something to stay up even
Speaker 4: though we think they're going to go down back in
Speaker 4: this week.
Speaker 1: I mean it's long old season still, isn't it? Long
Speaker 1: old five game season? To Luton then a popular choice,
Speaker 1: it seems anywhere else in the second Division that we
Speaker 1: want to go to because the one I did have
Speaker 1: noted down and even though they did win last night,
Speaker 1: I'm still relatively happy. Is Bristol City eleven to eight
Speaker 1: at QPR. It's it's happening, isn't it. This Bristol City
Speaker 1: top six. It's it's actually gonna it could actually happened
Speaker 1: here that they've broken the shackles of mid table, upper
Speaker 1: mid table, let's be fair, of the tenth region and
Speaker 1: they are now inside the top six. They've got a
Speaker 1: decent spot in the top six. A late winner against
Speaker 1: West Brom just kind of not just significant for the
Speaker 1: points valley value that obviously comes with that, but the
Speaker 1: confidence that feel good around the club. They are flying
Speaker 1: at the moment and they're playing a QPR team who
Speaker 1: had that win in midweeks, so there's a little bit
Speaker 1: more comfortable about them. And I know we've just said
Speaker 1: in terms of kind of staying up, you want to
Speaker 1: win your home games, QPR should be okay, now seven
Speaker 1: points the gap with five games to play, it's just
Speaker 1: eleven to eight on a promotion hopeful against the side
Speaker 1: now who effectively mid table nothingness.
Speaker 2: So your logic makes sense.
Speaker 4: But then looking at Bristol's results, I don't think we
Speaker 4: can go near them away from home. One win in
Speaker 4: twelve away league.
Speaker 1: Games, yeah, but the dew one.
Speaker 2: That is true. They could be due one.
Speaker 4: But I wouldn't feel comfortable back in a team that's
Speaker 4: one once in twelve away games.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: Personally, like I said, there's there could be an aspect
Speaker 4: of QPR slippers on now or sandals on. But even so,
Speaker 4: like if we if we put this in, yeah, season's over.
Speaker 4: If we put this in and they don't, they don't,
Speaker 4: Bristol don't get the winner. Will be kicking myself because
Speaker 4: I would never look back in a team that's not one.
Speaker 4: You know, at least probably six of the last twelve
Speaker 4: away games, just as a base.
Speaker 3: Stat, there's a base stat. I didn't consider this one,
Speaker 3: but when I did consider that was Millwall nine to four. Again,
Speaker 3: So I know that's why I were laughing.
Speaker 2: We're laughing upstairs. Yeah, go on, give us the rationale.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a bit need jerk, because
Speaker 3: I just watched them for ninety minutes. Beat you know,
Speaker 3: but they seem like they are the horse that's hitting.
Speaker 3: I don't know. They're just coming to the boy, aren't they.
Speaker 3: They are winning loads of games now, and they are
Speaker 3: what three points off the playoffs terrible goal difference, but
Speaker 3: they played the team in sick who they're chasing down.
Speaker 3: It's three points after players, but essentially four with that
Speaker 3: gold difference.
Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's far. Just update that because commentary one
Speaker 4: last night. So they jumped above Middlesbrough.
Speaker 3: Oh right, yeah, it's five.
Speaker 4: But it is a massive game. If they win, they've
Speaker 4: got a good chance of kicking on. But if they
Speaker 4: don't win, let's get a season over. Yeah, I like
Speaker 4: you the reasoning. You you always go back to. I
Speaker 4: think we've done how many years we've done this podcast now,
Speaker 4: but every time we talk about middle two, it.
Speaker 2: Was like pissing them out with your two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're reasoning about like just Millwall at Middlesborough against
Speaker 4: teams that like.
Speaker 2: Quite compact, they don't have a very good record.
Speaker 3: But I put this one in and then like as
Speaker 3: I did more research, I was sort of thinking myself
Speaker 3: out of it. I just feel it's horrible, say because
Speaker 3: but we've had a really bad end of the winter.
Speaker 3: They lost five games, didn't they on the spin? But
Speaker 3: they picked up since in the only lost two with
Speaker 3: the last day. But then again the record against like
Speaker 3: the top ten is bad. One for drawn two lost ten.
Speaker 3: I know, I just yeah. And then the surprise SI playing.
Speaker 1: The league leaders. But they were at home on Tuesday
Speaker 1: whenever it was, and they had a lot of shots
Speaker 1: but none that Carl Darla made a couple of decent saves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like that. Melio wouldn't have saved it.
Speaker 1: Well, ball came at him and he saved it, which
Speaker 1: was nice. And then last the last minute, right under pressure,
Speaker 1: they've had a bombardment for about ten minutes, but nothing
Speaker 1: that truly really kind of went while Borough of Nelly
Speaker 1: scored there and then the last minute Darlo comes out,
Speaker 1: Ball's coming in, comes out, claims it where Melo would
Speaker 1: have gone, swung at it and mis punched it and
Speaker 1: they would have equalized.
Speaker 2: But that got the biggest divation of the lot from the.
Speaker 1: Jesus away and was just relieved, God, he's caught it.
Speaker 1: But that's more that they had a lot of chances,
Speaker 1: a lot of just wasteful nurse, a lot of shooting
Speaker 1: from stupid areas when they're chasing the game. And maybe
Speaker 1: there was desperation, but when a lad's trying forty yard drive,
Speaker 1: it's not going to trouble anyone really, and ultimately it
Speaker 1: should have really been three nil. There were two offside
Speaker 1: calls in the game. Two goals rolled out. One I
Speaker 1: get the Bamford one it happens, it's you know, it's
Speaker 1: years on side, but split second to go that Tanak
Speaker 1: has been played on by two players and gets rolled
Speaker 1: off side, so there was the benefit of that. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: they have conceded three legitimate goals. They have been comfortably
Speaker 1: beating in theory, but there's just that wastefulness though from Borrows.
Speaker 1: What the original point was there just feels like there
Speaker 1: was so much desperation attack zero composure, which I suppose
Speaker 1: whenly got someone like Calichi and Accho bubbling about up front,
Speaker 1: that will happen. But yeah, just going to Millwall, it's
Speaker 1: m I.
Speaker 2: Was quite surprised.
Speaker 1: Coburan can't play though, can they because the lad who
Speaker 1: scored them all the midweek he's alone from borrowing, so
Speaker 1: he won't be able to play.
Speaker 3: They've got a issue Ivanovich, he's Serbian, young.
Speaker 2: Scored Brace last time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do like him, it's quite.
Speaker 3: He looks like a real a little bit of the
Speaker 3: Devil's just.
Speaker 1: A big It's a big price, isn't it. It is
Speaker 1: a big If it was like that Bristol City eleven
Speaker 1: to eight, I'd be a bit more not too sure.
Speaker 1: But ultimately every season I say Borough will come good,
Speaker 1: and then it gets the end of the season and
Speaker 1: they're not quite in the top six as they are
Speaker 1: at this current state. I could more looking at the Moral.
Speaker 3: Like it real like niggly ones, every single one and
Speaker 3: the Forest. I don't know, Bristol City waiting, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to stamp the two of them. We have
Speaker 1: which ones.
Speaker 3: Like Luton, So like Luten I.
Speaker 1: Mean yeah there on by their own relative season so far,
Speaker 1: they're on a lengthy, on beaten run, really aren't they
Speaker 1: at the moment, so that would be decent. And Millwall
Speaker 1: from a price perspective, I'd more than happy take to
Speaker 1: promotion or playoff chasers are de side of the home team.
Speaker 1: If you give me above two to.
Speaker 3: One on them, we can always put them in and
Speaker 3: then take them out.
Speaker 1: Could do. Why don't we provisionally do that then and
Speaker 1: we can move on and look at the other leagues.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, provisionally then Asterix kind of pencil it in
Speaker 1: for another cliche. So far than the AKA, we are
Speaker 1: taking Luton, Topeak Blackburn and then we have Milwall to
Speaker 1: beat Middlesbrough at the price on that double just shy
Speaker 1: of five to one. Okay, Then we provisionally have two
Speaker 1: teams that we like the look off from the championship
Speaker 1: which takes us as I said, they're just shy of
Speaker 1: five to one. Inter League one, where again the tricky
Speaker 1: slate continues. We've lost Wickham, We've lost Wrexham to the
Speaker 1: early kickoffs, Rexham at Wigan, who I think we kind
Speaker 1: of were saying before their decent price Wrexham eleven to
Speaker 1: ten to win that game. Wickham are home to Stevenage.
Speaker 1: They are eight to thirteen, as you'd expect to win
Speaker 1: that one. I'd like to kick off the League One
Speaker 1: section by bringing Burton Albion to your attentions. Oh Jesus
Speaker 1: at five to two at home to a Huddersfield team
Speaker 1: who have royally made a mess of it, let's say diplomatically,
Speaker 1: I think context of the table so far, then Huddersfield
Speaker 1: had dropped down to eighth. They are now four points
Speaker 1: outside of the playoffs. Disastrous campaign for them if they
Speaker 1: don't finish in that top six, which is looking likely.
Speaker 1: Burton looked dead and buried. Gary Bower came in. They
Speaker 1: are suddenly back to life. They are three points of safety,
Speaker 1: now three points off safety. Whereas with a game in hand,
Speaker 1: are they over the team above them, which is Bristol Rovers,
Speaker 1: who are just losing every week at the moment.
Speaker 3: As they're playing away and.
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, the it's the price for a
Speaker 1: home team to Burton at the moment, and we find
Speaker 1: their home form have not been losing many games at all.
Speaker 1: The across the last six at home, three wins, two
Speaker 1: draws and a lost. The lost came against Bolton, they
Speaker 1: beat later at Orient, they beat Reading, they beat Rotherham
Speaker 1: as well, who of course have had their issues. They
Speaker 1: are very much a win lose, win lose. They're losing
Speaker 1: a lot of away games, as you'd expect a team
Speaker 1: like Burton to be doing in their position at the moment,
Speaker 1: but at home recognizing the importance of picking up the
Speaker 1: results there. And while it hasn't necessarily been a case
Speaker 1: of across the course of a season, I think if
Speaker 1: they had the current manager in across the course of
Speaker 1: the season, I wouldn't be surprised whatsoever to see them
Speaker 1: sitting around seventeenth relative safety, not a lot to play for.
Speaker 1: It's also like when we spoke about Luton and Blackburn,
Speaker 1: it's the element of Huddersfield coming as well. Who as
Speaker 1: you said, they're sacked Michael Duff. When you're a promotion
Speaker 1: chasing team or a playoff chasing team, you usually do
Speaker 1: that a plan in place. The plan in place is
Speaker 1: not just to go We'll just give it to is
Speaker 1: it the academy manager or whoever then steps up in
Speaker 1: Worthington to a point where the form was so bad
Speaker 1: the reports came out they were then considering actually making
Speaker 1: an appointment to try and salvage the season. It could
Speaker 1: well just be a case of they've left it too late. Look,
Speaker 1: Dot's not like immune from criticism the words. You know,
Speaker 1: there were issues there. There was a case of not
Speaker 1: quite sure what formation was best and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But ultimately to then get rid of him without a
Speaker 1: plan in place has left them in a position now,
Speaker 1: where are Huddersfield going to make the playoffs? No, A
Speaker 1: lot of people, the majority of people would say no,
Speaker 1: they're not because you look at the teams above them
Speaker 1: and how they're going. The stability which I know it's reading,
Speaker 1: but in terms of on the pitch, there is the
Speaker 1: stability that they kind of have there. Huddersfield three losses
Speaker 1: in their last four, the win being at home to Mansfield, who,
Speaker 1: as we spoke about, really not a great deal going
Speaker 1: on there. It's a price play for me. It's a
Speaker 1: home five to two for Burton to win. I think
Speaker 1: that is a lovely one on an otherwise tricky League
Speaker 1: One slate.
Speaker 4: I don't mind it. I mentioned it to the gym
Speaker 4: before we came down. Yeah, I thought the price was
Speaker 4: too big. I think the Huddersfield has still been priced
Speaker 4: like well, a top six contender, but they've not been
Speaker 4: like that for months now.
Speaker 2: Performances have been poor.
Speaker 3: Results followed yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks for checking.
Speaker 1: Most frustrating about husfielder is they've got the individual talent,
Speaker 1: which is always while there is slight a little bit
Speaker 1: of doubt whenever you come to back in them, because
Speaker 1: they have some quality players in there that can kind
Speaker 1: of bear them out, but then the genuine recruitment was
Speaker 1: just let's just build a striker department of the exact
Speaker 1: same striker so there's no variety to go at.
Speaker 4: And also the like we mentioned the impact of just
Speaker 4: not having a plan, but on the face of its daft,
Speaker 4: that also just demotivates the players because the players, you know,
Speaker 4: if you've got, if you've got go from Duff, who's
Speaker 4: you know, got a little bit of pedigree in terms
Speaker 4: of in this division getting teams to playoffs, and then
Speaker 4: go to the academy manager, where's the like You're looking
Speaker 4: around going, well, this guy's going to take us to
Speaker 4: the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Really, I'm not saying.
Speaker 4: They're down in tools, but it definitely definitely means that
Speaker 4: there'll be questions in the dressing room around the decision
Speaker 4: making and probably will lead to a bit of demotivation.
Speaker 4: It's led to some shocking results, especially away from home,
Speaker 4: and it failed to score in the last three away
Speaker 4: games comfortably beaten. I mean even Bristol Rovers beat them
Speaker 4: recently away from home, and that's the kind of standard
Speaker 4: that we're talking. Obviously, Burton just below them, as you mentioned,
Speaker 4: so it's it's not beyond the realms of possibility.
Speaker 2: Bristol Rovers were a much bigger price.
Speaker 3: Than but Bristol Rovers with that the last game you got.
Speaker 1: Was like, look it was around that point, wouldn't it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, last game, Yeah, because then the new guy came
Speaker 3: in and they Dick Crawly five one. But I remember
Speaker 3: that being a weird game. There was a really weird
Speaker 3: goal where he let him take a quick free kick
Speaker 3: of something before Crawley was set Stuff like that. A
Speaker 3: couple of worldies, couple from set pieces.
Speaker 1: Not that lampard clip you're seen, you know when he
Speaker 1: was ever a manager and they got bad at Palace
Speaker 1: in It. Lucky goal, looky goal, your set piece goal,
Speaker 1: average goal, another average goal, so but that the big goal.
Speaker 3: But then by that point its effectively one one point
Speaker 3: on the board. No, but I was just looking and
Speaker 3: as some people do if they haven't really got to
Speaker 3: read on a team or they haven't been follow him,
Speaker 3: you can go on sites like sportinglife dot com and
Speaker 3: it gives you underlying data so you can just blag it.
Speaker 3: And I'm just looking at others data. In the last
Speaker 3: four games, uh one win, but they haven't generated a
Speaker 3: solid x G goal in any of them. They beat
Speaker 3: Mansfield with an x US up point four three. I
Speaker 3: haven't been watching them closely, but based on this I
Speaker 3: can blag through it and they look poor.
Speaker 4: They're not creating chances, no at all. Note point seven
Speaker 4: note point fourno point four. No point six is the
Speaker 4: extra things they put up.
Speaker 3: Which is seeded five. In the two games on the
Speaker 3: road under the new guy without conce.
Speaker 1: Believe, Burton have won four home games all season, but
Speaker 1: three of those have come in the last six, so
Speaker 1: they're beaten as well. Just Leighton Orient, They've beaten Redding,
Speaker 1: they've beaten Rotherham and then they beat Shrewsbury back in
Speaker 1: early November. I'm not sure if Ainsworth was in charge
Speaker 1: for that one. Now it's Paul Hurst. So just before
Speaker 1: Ainsworth kind of came in, had us five minutes and
Speaker 1: went you screwed lads, So yeah, I'm off back down south.
Speaker 1: And then you kind of look at the teams that
Speaker 1: beat them. Northampton were undon Nolan and they kind of
Speaker 1: had that little period. Exeter a bit hit and miss
Speaker 1: Rexha and beat them. Charlton, who we spoke about Stockport
Speaker 1: as well, so they did have a bit of a
Speaker 1: losing run across November and January into early January, but
Speaker 1: they were playing some solid teams and teams who are
Speaker 1: different kind of points of that. They managed to pick
Speaker 1: up a two two draw with Peterborough and then this
Speaker 1: kind of six game run where they've only lost one
Speaker 1: then kicks in just to me, feels like, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: Price and Huddersfield on kind of the early season expectation
Speaker 1: almost still and we're forty one games in and they're
Speaker 1: far from those expectations.
Speaker 3: Do you feel really confident? Oh? Actually, let me reword that.
Speaker 3: Do you feel Shrewsbury against Mansfield confident? Do you remember
Speaker 3: Shrewsbury against Yeah, do you feel that level of I
Speaker 3: feel more confident in Burton, more confident, Well, I feel
Speaker 3: more confident in Burton than in this one because we've
Speaker 3: got more of a extended period to kind of look.
Speaker 1: At now where Bow you're at the helm. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is just a fact that the fact that after forty
Speaker 1: one games I'm talking about Burton Albion to me enough
Speaker 1: to make me kind of go, they're probably worth inclusion
Speaker 1: because early season, back in October and Noven before he
Speaker 1: came in, no point, the only conclusion Burton would have
Speaker 1: in the sackle would be if we were backing against them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now with the season nearly at a close, there's
Speaker 1: a sign of life to them that's making me go
Speaker 1: five to two, they're probably worth back in because I
Speaker 1: know this logic screwed us last week with Crawley.
Speaker 2: The Crawley were a bit to win.
Speaker 1: They've got to win this game.
Speaker 3: On the Crawley game, though Stephen has scored with an
Speaker 3: absolute Worldie Crawley Wizard of far and away the better
Speaker 3: team over the course of the ninety minutes, and when
Speaker 3: they equalized with ten minutes ago, I thought, if anyone's
Speaker 3: going to kick on it, and it's going to be them,
Speaker 3: but then they just had a commit capitulation. You know
Speaker 3: what I want to do. I was just thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Then can we provisionally put Burton in? We can build
Speaker 3: a real long, silly list and then down at.
Speaker 1: The Burton going in just takes a shive, just twenties magic.
Speaker 3: But I've got another big price from League One, and
Speaker 3: I think Jake's got another short price, so that I
Speaker 3: really want to mention Redding two to one at Northampton.
Speaker 3: I can't really quantify them, can you, Because they keep
Speaker 3: they keep screwing us over. But there's there's there's just
Speaker 3: something and it's probably to do with the fact that
Speaker 3: they're always treading the line between existence and non existence.
Speaker 3: God blessed them. It's really rallied the fans in this
Speaker 3: group of players. I think, you know, just Bush just blush,
Speaker 3: just you know what I mean? Does what come on?
Speaker 3: Because they won't go away with thought? When Sellers went,
Speaker 3: they just eventually fall down the division. They didn't. They
Speaker 3: also lost Sam Smith, the greatest striker in the division,
Speaker 3: or maybe one Richard Cone Fuck Stansfield Penalty merchant unless
Speaker 3: you're talking about Calmon Calvin or potentially Kilo dune.
Speaker 1: This is another conversation.
Speaker 3: Two to one Northampton. They just won't go away, will they.
Speaker 3: Northampton complete the double over Peter Burke with an emphatic victory.
Speaker 3: Was in the last game at the weekend their rivals,
Speaker 3: So take that word pinch of salt. No one's coming
Speaker 3: in and he's done brilliantly to steer them away from
Speaker 3: any trouble. But it's now they're at the point where
Speaker 3: the seven points clear of the relegation zone. They picked
Speaker 3: up results in over half thirteen of the twelve twenty
Speaker 3: games in charge, but their record against the top six
Speaker 3: makes me think it's worth siding with two to one reading.
Speaker 3: They lost the reverse four to one ready one in
Speaker 3: case you didn't get that, and against the top six
Speaker 3: under Nolan they played five drawn three loss two drawn three.
Speaker 3: I know that's the only stick layer of.
Speaker 2: Them at home as well Stop Port Birmingham.
Speaker 3: Yep, that is the main stick layer.
Speaker 2: There no life just because of that.
Speaker 4: And reading readings away for him is it is picked
Speaker 4: up a bit of late, but it's not not really
Speaker 4: enough games Addy away from home?
Speaker 3: Did ye black the siege mentality?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I liked I liked the I like the towing
Speaker 4: the line between existence and non and that's that was
Speaker 4: the best line. But five wins in twenty away games
Speaker 4: all season, it's not I mean it kind it kind
Speaker 4: of goes against the Burton point as well.
Speaker 2: They've won four times at home all season.
Speaker 4: But I think the recentcy around Burton's victories has been
Speaker 4: more excited than Redding's away form recently.
Speaker 1: Should we opened up to League two as well? Can
Speaker 1: I just throw stop Port and I just say yeah,
Speaker 1: not saying we'll move on to League two, but let's
Speaker 1: open up that as well.
Speaker 4: I just I just quickly go stop Port the shortest
Speaker 4: price on my on my list four to five to
Speaker 4: beat Rodham, Roberin and one of those teams. They've set
Speaker 4: the manager, they've got a little bit of the bounds.
Speaker 4: It's probably just a feel good factor. Three wins on
Speaker 4: the spin. They were very good in the first two
Speaker 4: against Northampton and Blackpool, but they were really fortunate in
Speaker 4: midweek to beat Bolton. I don't know if you saw
Speaker 4: the game, but Robin had three shots equating to no
Speaker 4: point one expected goals in Nicole and Bolton had two
Speaker 4: point think six' five x g thirty six shots and
Speaker 4: four big chances and somehow fail to. Score so If
Speaker 4: robin play like that Against, stockport they could get smashed
Speaker 4: to pieces Because stopport absolutely. Flying sixteen league games now
Speaker 4: one eleven of those drawn three one six at the
Speaker 4: last seven at home they are surgeing and we talked
Speaker 4: about it a little. Bit will there be anyone that
Speaker 4: can catch The Rexham? WICKHAM i mean if results go
Speaker 4: the way of twelve thirty And stopport win this game
Speaker 4: all of a, sudden only three points Behind rexham in
Speaker 4: second with four games to, go and it could be game.
Speaker 1: ON i don't like. It Just roberham's weird upturned Since
Speaker 1: Steve evans was.
Speaker 3: Sacked, yeah it's the same With southampton potentially getting rid
Speaker 3: of a man who the players clearly. Hate we know
Speaker 3: it from his career that this is his whole. Mantra
Speaker 3: in it he goes, in it makes himself like some
Speaker 3: sort of WELL i don't think he has to try very,
Speaker 3: hard but he makes himself like the villain and somehow
Speaker 3: sometimes it just makes THE, tv the team unite in
Speaker 3: the hatred towards him and. Win but you always get
Speaker 3: it whenever he leaves the, club the sheer joy of
Speaker 3: the team that he's leaving behind is palpable And rotherham
Speaker 3: had picked up and that's WHY i ignored this. One
Speaker 3: but on the face of, it it does make a
Speaker 3: lot of. Sense a potential automatic chases against somebody with
Speaker 3: nothing to play for it and very fortunate in some
Speaker 3: of their. Results BUT i don't. Know it's just That
Speaker 3: rotherham uptick and they are on paper a very very
Speaker 3: Savvy League one, side aren't they against?
Speaker 4: Fine happy to leave that one any of us we
Speaker 4: want to. Mention bolton At barnesy was one that made
Speaker 4: my lists as. WELL i mentioned About bolton midweek with
Speaker 4: playing real Against. Robert i'm, struggling unfortunate not to get a.
Speaker 4: Win barnsley have just fallen to pieces seven without a
Speaker 4: win five defeats poor at home all, season just one
Speaker 4: win the last seven at home fell to beat bottom
Speaker 4: four Sides burton And, cambridge beaten by a falter In
Speaker 4: huddsfield and Both stevenage And exit who've got note to
Speaker 4: play For bolton seven wins in twelve thirteen Since schumacher took.
Speaker 4: Charge process is, okay BUT i just thought the price
Speaker 4: would look pretty big for a team looking at top
Speaker 4: six and A barncy team that just completely checked.
Speaker 3: Out i'm at this, game you're going to that? One,
Speaker 3: Yeah i'm going to that.
Speaker 1: Game, well you can like know how.
Speaker 2: Goes i'm guessing by the silence that it's not going
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 3: In, yeah if he isn't it every? TEAM i feel
Speaker 3: Like i've suggested there's been Similar like there's all doubt
Speaker 3: to all of, them as there always.
Speaker 4: IS i think there's the slate of the slate and
Speaker 4: yeah there's no there's none that we're all agreeing.
Speaker 1: On is the league to words would just stay out
Speaker 1: of it because it's a mental division we've got to talk.
Speaker 1: About the only ONE i had was Port vale to Beat,
Speaker 1: bromley just BECAUSE i KNOW i Know bromley had a
Speaker 1: good run of away. Results maybe About december time was.
Speaker 1: IT i think since then it's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a drop off on. It Port vale with the, title
Speaker 1: he's just christ what the hell is going on at the.
Speaker 1: Top finally someone has seized the damonishative in this division
Speaker 1: Of warsaw's. Collapse Port vale kicking on really.
Speaker 2: The biggest choking history From.
Speaker 1: WARSAW i don't, know it's hard to say in it because.
Speaker 2: It's like they're going to finish outside the top Of.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's hard when you're at that, level and, basically
Speaker 1: in the nicest, way a lot of it's relying on
Speaker 1: very good loan, players and there is the element of
Speaker 1: it could rud could just get pulled from under your
Speaker 1: feet any point for, them it's probably, frustrated seeming, good
Speaker 1: stoke low and never play, yes but ultimately, yes there
Speaker 1: should be you should be winning at least a couple of.
Speaker 2: Them you remember how many points clear they.
Speaker 3: Were i'm just finding it. Out, now give me a,
Speaker 3: Sex give me a.
Speaker 2: SEX i swear they were like they were like fifteen eighteen.
Speaker 1: Points we have a look at Their so when did the.
Speaker 3: When they Played bradford and lost three mill and twenty
Speaker 3: fifth Of. January before that game they were well points.
Speaker 2: Clear, yeah fifteen clear of.
Speaker 3: Fourth it's well clear with a game in. Hand that
Speaker 3: was at the end Of.
Speaker 1: January since, then it's, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen sixteen game to which they've won to believable
Speaker 1: collapse and then' and they've been drawing a. Lot this
Speaker 1: is the, thing as well they're not exactly been, losing
Speaker 1: so it's not like you go, all let's oppose them
Speaker 1: whoever they're. PLAYING i mean they're Playing barrow so, no
Speaker 1: but it's been drawing a lot of. Games but it's
Speaker 1: a hell of a drop. In Port vale are a
Speaker 1: team WHO i, Mean bradford kept. Going it was Like
Speaker 1: walter go, on have it go on Having, Bradagan oh
Speaker 1: of you have you picked Up, okay well we'll pick
Speaker 1: up something as. Well Port vale just come in like
Speaker 1: a steam, tragon will have? It then five winds and
Speaker 1: six last, Week, yeah which was a hell of a.
Speaker 1: Game was it three to two at a half?
Speaker 2: Time they've Done they've Done bradford and Port vale the
Speaker 2: last two.
Speaker 1: Weeks Brad bradford the top on goal difference. Thing actually aren't?
Speaker 1: They but it feels like Port veil are the. One
Speaker 1: at the moment they were, going, right well we'll actually
Speaker 1: have this title if it's up for, grabs AND i
Speaker 1: think three to four is roughly the price eight to
Speaker 1: eleven on. Them to, Speak, bromley who if it was
Speaker 1: At bromley no chart to be was staying way clear of.
Speaker 1: That But, bromley, who to be fair to him have
Speaker 1: been good away from. Home just feels like it's the
Speaker 1: Way Port vail are going at the. Moment not a
Speaker 1: great deal is going to stop.
Speaker 3: Them it's just a bit, muggy but odds on team
Speaker 3: In league.
Speaker 1: Two give them the, yeah and it's so that, YEAH i, mean,
Speaker 1: ultimately it's just a stupid.
Speaker 2: Thing and to do did YOU i thought you might
Speaker 2: have been On grimsby this?
Speaker 1: WEEK i can't work him, Out Jesus.
Speaker 2: Christ they made my initial.
Speaker 4: List But harrogate's picked up at home as. WELL i
Speaker 4: don't know if you've, seen but their home results have
Speaker 4: got like they were beating.
Speaker 1: FIVE i know LAST i know it was last, season
Speaker 1: but it was the back end of last. SEASON i
Speaker 1: went to harrog At grimsby and, Yeah grimsby didn't create
Speaker 1: a great deal IF i remember in that. Game and
Speaker 1: obviously that was last season and they've drastically improved this.
Speaker 1: Campaign but then that's always in the back of your
Speaker 1: mind when two managers have met and they did very
Speaker 1: very little to kind of create anything in that.
Speaker 4: Contest what we're, saying basically it is league to just
Speaker 4: stay the fuck away, again yeah.
Speaker 1: Again and slay, honestly sit back and just.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the show everyone chaosn't?
Speaker 1: It it's the most entertaining league when it comes to
Speaker 1: this final part of the.
Speaker 4: Season, well while we're in the fourth, tier have you
Speaker 4: we've not really talked about the, relegation say at the other,
Speaker 4: ends and it does look.
Speaker 2: As there's a lot to do for both. Teams but
Speaker 2: give it a bit of air. Time are they're both going?
Speaker 1: Down or can Play carlisle this week? Again and then
Speaker 1: When tranmere Played harrogut the other week that again was
Speaker 1: like neither are going to go down, realistically but whoever
Speaker 1: won that would be, like, right we are definitely going
Speaker 1: to stay up now we can feel quite. Confident and
Speaker 1: it Was harrogut won that another three to. Thriller, yeah
Speaker 1: they're both going?
Speaker 4: Down just out of, Interest how would you look at
Speaker 4: playing that game because obviously a draw is not going
Speaker 4: to suit either.
Speaker 2: Team would you just go for chaos and for?
Speaker 1: Goals but POTENTIALLY i think there's a case of it
Speaker 1: depends how it plays out done It do you go
Speaker 1: if it's nil nil at?
Speaker 2: Halftime then do you lump on the?
Speaker 1: Overs go overs and and even like over corners and
Speaker 1: stuff like, that because there could be a game state
Speaker 1: factor that comes, In like you say that a draw
Speaker 1: is no good to. Anyone it doesn't matter if you
Speaker 1: finished twenty third or twenty. Four if you're going, down,
Speaker 1: yeah going, down and particularly From morecam who were hosting as,
Speaker 1: Well acrington A. Trammere so one of those or both
Speaker 1: of those are going to drop points a win and
Speaker 1: suddenly going three points potentially only a win, away depending
Speaker 1: how the kind of goal difference plays out on getting
Speaker 1: ourselves safe goals could well being approached corners goals and
Speaker 1: stuff like. That it just depends on the game. State
Speaker 1: you kind of have to do it pregame and then
Speaker 1: almost go back in and play if if it's still
Speaker 1: like a nil nil or something like, That.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's. Good it's it's an interesting.
Speaker 4: Game AND i do like how THE tv broadcasters have just, gone,
Speaker 4: yeah fuck, it we're not gonna put any relegation games.
Speaker 2: Early we're just gonna have all the teams at the top.
Speaker 2: Early fair.
Speaker 4: ENOUGH i don't want to, watch so Watch jeopardy isn't?
Speaker 3: There i'm all, RIGHT i don't think there's Any jeopardy well.
Speaker 4: Down if more can win And ncrton lose the Tram,
Speaker 4: mere there's three points for four games to, go like
Speaker 4: literally that anything could happen at that stage.
Speaker 1: When morecome got, left we need to wrap up and
Speaker 1: actually pick an. Acker But i'm curious to.
Speaker 2: See if they've Got bromley away salted Chest field the. Way,
Speaker 2: yeah they're.
Speaker 1: Done so what do we want to?
Speaker 3: Do like a wise getting on a, BIT i think
Speaker 3: we talked About burton.
Speaker 1: Would Take loot and we would Take.
Speaker 4: Millwall we seem pretty Millwell burton on those AND i
Speaker 4: think we just just emphasized that this the slate is
Speaker 4: that bad that we've ended up picking a couple of,
Speaker 4: long longer prices that we think are overpriced but have
Speaker 4: a really good chance to win in so we're not
Speaker 4: obviously it's it's one of those like it's a little
Speaker 4: bit puntier than usual compared to the last winner we
Speaker 4: had when all three of us, on which was like
Speaker 4: eight to, one four favorites for the, leagues basically.
Speaker 2: Worth a. GOAL i like.
Speaker 3: It you could pop the forest in there and make
Speaker 3: it forty.
Speaker 1: To tell you what we could. Do why don't we
Speaker 1: take that as the travel and as we always, do
Speaker 1: we'll put the long. List it's back on.
Speaker 2: Site we're gonna do the four of the five can decide.
Speaker 1: That later for a nice surprise when you going back,
Speaker 1: it then this week's. Acker then we'll settle on another,
Speaker 1: treble but it's another big price treble given the involvement
Speaker 1: of a couple of teams in. This we're Taking looting
Speaker 1: to Beat, Blackburn we're Taking millwall to Meet middlesbrough and
Speaker 1: then in Sky Bet League one it Is Burton albion
Speaker 1: to Beat. Uddersfield the price just shy of twenty to.
Speaker 1: One oo, oh that's, nice isn't?
Speaker 2: It the biggest trouble we've done all, season isn't? It?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah let's get a bigger one soon before
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