1 00:00:28,679 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho. 2 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,679 This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we'll 3 00:00:40,679 --> 00:00:44,640 get into this week's episode of The Big Story sort of. 4 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,359 I'll talk a little bit about that in a moment, 5 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,600 but first I do want to encourage you. If you 6 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:54,000 are enjoying the podcast, please follow us using your favorite 7 00:00:54,039 --> 00:00:58,280 podcast software. I also want to highlight our other podcast, 8 00:00:58,399 --> 00:01:02,479 in particular, I'm bringing up the Great Adventurers of Old 9 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,519 Time Radio. 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Well, I did want to go 16 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:35,120 ahead and clarify that I came across the fact that 17 00:01:35,159 --> 00:01:40,000 there are actually more episodes of The Big Story out there, 18 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,000 and I thought that I've had the latest set, but 19 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,239 looks like there were some additional research done in twenty 20 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,840 twenty two that included more files, and among them are 21 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,799 two episodes that are before the latest episode we played, 22 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,879 so we are going to go ahead and play those. 23 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,120 The first one is actually the audition recording, which was 24 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,479 made for networks and sponsors, and you will hear that 25 00:02:10,599 --> 00:02:16,840 it was actually originated for CBS, even though the Big 26 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:22,280 Story itself became an NBC staple. The working title for 27 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:28,360 the series with the pilot was feature Assignment. For the pilot, 28 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:34,680 the series leaned into a familiar story that was really 29 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,120 loved in the entertainment industry. It would become the basis 30 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,319 of the movie called north Side seven seven seven. It 31 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:48,000 would also in five years be used as the basis 32 00:02:48,039 --> 00:02:53,159 for the pilot episode of Defense Attorney, then known as 33 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:59,080 The Defense Rest starring Mercedes McCambridge. But here with the 34 00:02:59,159 --> 00:03:04,479 audition day of February fifth, nineteen forty six is the 35 00:03:04,599 --> 00:03:06,199 mass checkcase. 36 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:33,319 Speaker 2: An and Headrick, We Danced, Teacher Assignment, We bring you 37 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,840 a new and you need Rheumatic Program two and Authentic Stories. 38 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,960 A few paper reporters on Peat your assignments tonight. The 39 00:03:41,039 --> 00:03:43,599 mat check case raised in the front page of the 40 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:49,599 Chicago Times, October eighteenth, nineteen forty five, Byeline James Maguire, 41 00:03:56,199 --> 00:03:59,000 numbered in the ranks of the fourth estate, enlisted in 42 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,719 the Forbidion Army, whose weapons are the coffee pencil and 43 00:04:01,759 --> 00:04:06,159 the typewriter. Are thousands of men and whether playful reporters 44 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:09,560 for prayer and player, and who the people. 45 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 3: Of the press for them. 46 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:17,399 Speaker 2: It is a high point of a lifetime when the 47 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,519 camp comes to break through the name of much of 48 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:22,040 the daily beat with the story that earns for the 49 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:27,040 paperman his mark of recognition, the fieline. In this program 50 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,160 you will leave him pertain the man behind the filine 51 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,319 of my true stories of Joseph met These, then, are 52 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,560 the authentic stories of the man behind the byeline, the 53 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,920 stories of reporters on Preacher Outside. 54 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,079 Speaker 4: I asked the first slider feeding the beat of the 55 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,600 outside programs have won William D. London, Traffic cop in 56 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,639 Judy and Chicago Southside, year nineteen thirty two, the day, 57 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:56,439 December nineteen whether litter code, the stump off beauty and 58 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,319 alumti of six feet to the long lu Codd majesty 59 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:04,560 to a nearby a testing speaking You're yourself saved when 60 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:09,800 it's flong the door behind you, that wing off like 61 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,199 a three years Also the resolutely. 62 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: That's got a little coffee. I still take coffee. Yeah, yeah, 63 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:34,279 Well here's the crime. Mhm, you're gonna get. 64 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 5: In coming here. 65 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:43,519 Speaker 3: It's worse to keep me up right? Kay? Another cop Chi? 66 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,079 What are you looking at? Yah? That's your truck outside 67 00:05:49,079 --> 00:05:49,839 of the fire plug. 68 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 6: I got a good mind to slap a ticket on it. 69 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: What do you want me to do? On a freeze up? People? 70 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:09,439 Aren't they your second noticed triggers? Give you the eye? 71 00:06:09,439 --> 00:06:09,959 How would you see? 72 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,639 Speaker 4: Is the take at five on the table and you 73 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,560 hear her scream? You never see two rods snake out? 74 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,959 You can pick off those eleven last time you and 75 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:31,240 the William B. Ponan Chicago traffic whatever go into that. Yeah, 76 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,279 the name goes up on the tap of eleven twenty 77 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:34,759 one six. 78 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: See that says two in nine mm hmm. 79 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 7: Remember that gun job with the story behind that murderer 80 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:57,560 is tonight's feature assignment. Now thirteen years September nineteen, you're 81 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,439 in the city room at the Chicago Times, and you 82 00:06:59,519 --> 00:07:00,519 have a right to be there. 83 00:07:01,079 --> 00:07:05,759 Speaker 3: You are a reporter. They're a love man name give me. 84 00:07:07,959 --> 00:07:11,199 That's Karen Wall to the editor wherever he wants to 85 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,879 send your You go and. 86 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 5: Give me. 87 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: And then this be right up your round, right up 88 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:24,319 classified mm hmm, I've. 89 00:07:29,519 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, ok. 90 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,079 Speaker 9: For the old mother boss, Jimmy boy, that's the angle. 91 00:07:40,439 --> 00:07:42,480 There's a guy doing ninety nine years and jolly for 92 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,759 that job right now. So somebody's rule. Either the cops 93 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,000 are send him up or whoever put this so checking him. 94 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:55,519 Speaker 6: Maybe it'll make an insight pack Okay, yeah, not let 95 00:07:55,639 --> 00:07:57,120 us for thirteen year old nerves. 96 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: It is just check it from now on. You're run 97 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:06,959 your own. That's what you like to hear the rest 98 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,279 out of the air force. You don't like sitting around 99 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,879 on your own. But it's not the work. 100 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:19,399 Speaker 4: Oh you check the book lists, telephone numbers, personal or subscribers, 101 00:08:19,439 --> 00:08:20,920 actors find out. 102 00:08:21,399 --> 00:08:31,439 Speaker 3: We're gonna yeah h m pay station five to let 103 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:43,000 them stop a well in the glass. How do you 104 00:08:43,039 --> 00:09:02,440 spell that again? M hm hm yeah, yeah, yeah, oh 105 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,919 I go over that. What do you say you did? 106 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,159 Speaker 2: Where did this scrub woman get five thousand dollars? 107 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: Why could at that time? But I tell you how 108 00:09:14,039 --> 00:09:16,320 to get five thousand dollars srubbing. 109 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 4: You leave the brad living in high school place strubble, 110 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:32,000 and so pick a scrap of garbage off the curve 111 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:33,960 and you remember something. I caught one story with a 112 00:09:34,159 --> 00:09:42,320 crime barbies where there's no garbage backstree. They grabbed the 113 00:09:42,399 --> 00:09:45,320 taxi over the cross the bridge. 114 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: All out of the night. Starter get your. 115 00:09:52,919 --> 00:10:03,799 Speaker 10: MP I mean scrubbing Yah eye glasses delivering good. 116 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, friend, she doesn't hear you. Her eyes have a 117 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:22,679 lot true. You put an add I think probably, Oh yeah, 118 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:32,960 I'm gonna table story about h Are you afraid of 119 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:38,720 the time? Please? I didn't get. 120 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 11: You. 121 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: Wouldn't you like that? I need the woman to see 122 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:52,399 it's my boy. You don't give you don't idea you 123 00:10:52,399 --> 00:10:55,120 will say that five thousand dollars to get him up? 124 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 11: How long? 125 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 3: Well? 126 00:11:02,159 --> 00:11:08,399 Speaker 12: Certain every day community you never got to see. Well, 127 00:11:09,879 --> 00:11:15,519 I say, mm hmm, nine thousand dollars to. 128 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 3: Give me pot I offer reward you important. 129 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:39,159 Speaker 5: Us. 130 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:51,879 Speaker 3: Friend said wow, and the straight time small not carry 131 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,559 follow to a closet. 132 00:11:58,759 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 5: Mm hmm. 133 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 3: She reaches end, gets half back un the bag bundle 134 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:09,679 of so much rare? 135 00:12:10,759 --> 00:12:32,039 Speaker 5: Yeah, mm hmm. What what happened to brey? 136 00:12:35,840 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: You would like to be young man standing there? Had 137 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:09,159 to hear the bell when the bridge goes up. Back 138 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:22,519 in the office, thanks and yeah, yeah, look over as. 139 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 6: You make me, huh, who's the woman who put the 140 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,679 ad in the mother of the man and Jalli ed 141 00:13:30,799 --> 00:13:33,039 all right, like the horse stick, whether that's the way 142 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:36,240 the foe takes what it is? Can but hey can 143 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,320 turn me loose on the story. Well the angle is 144 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:42,039 he's sure her son, are they? Oh? 145 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:42,639 Speaker 4: We do it? 146 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: Look if you got anything on it? 147 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 9: The letter from the guy already no, no, no, no time, 148 00:13:46,799 --> 00:13:50,039 tell you what right the old lady, Well, it's your story, 149 00:13:50,159 --> 00:13:52,720 so stay with it. Do it your way to a 150 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:56,120 feature signing and make it good, I mean a good 151 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,000 story story series anyways works it works out in. 152 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,879 Speaker 3: Northern I mean god. 153 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:13,919 Speaker 13: Ninety nine years first check the Youth of the World, 154 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,759 and now all there is it tells the story. 155 00:14:19,679 --> 00:14:24,679 Speaker 6: Yellow enclips tell you Nmber ten, nineteen thirty two. Kilding 156 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,960 hold up at ten, number twenty two, nineteen thirty two. 157 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:35,639 Youth's in Top Dead number twenty three, nineteen thirty two. 158 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:41,679 Speaker 2: Women Identified Top murder suspect Edictorial June nineteen thirty three. 159 00:14:41,799 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 6: If the eyes of the nation focus fron Chicago, F 160 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,799 one in the world, there it is a disgrace of 161 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,360 five unsolved murders. The people of this state demanded clean up. 162 00:14:53,759 --> 00:15:00,159 I got it Mber nineteen thirty three, match guilty, get ninety. 163 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 3: The fact the first question you want to see. 164 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,399 Speaker 5: You you can have five minutes. 165 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: During the part of times. What do you want on 166 00:15:21,799 --> 00:15:29,919 top about that killing? You know you are all right? 167 00:15:31,399 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: You are. 168 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,039 Speaker 3: Not your mother. 169 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:44,399 Speaker 2: Oh he's offering a five thousand dollars wardle as she 170 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,039 stopped hiding. Bes you didn't do it. 171 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,919 Speaker 13: H I s. 172 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: Your mom. What I'm going to write now is how 173 00:16:01,759 --> 00:16:03,960 it happens. See what you can do with this more 174 00:16:04,039 --> 00:16:13,679 because I'm going crazy up here. Yeah, h I believe 175 00:16:13,679 --> 00:16:18,639 your story, match, but I've got to prove it. If 176 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:20,519 I can't believe me, I don't want for a story. 177 00:16:20,879 --> 00:16:21,279 Speaker 11: I tell me. 178 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: Is there anything in your letter? We're on first? 179 00:16:23,759 --> 00:16:23,919 Speaker 14: Yeah? 180 00:16:24,039 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 3: The woman? What woman? Wh I think where? I don't know? Maybe? 181 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:37,519 But ye, what were you going to say? My girl? 182 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:40,080 My wife? Come on, I want to try to help. 183 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,080 I said, skip that. Just find that woman. That's all 184 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:43,159 I got, no wife anymore? 185 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:54,799 Speaker 15: Just kay, okay, yeah, you'll see you in mom. 186 00:16:54,960 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 16: Say you don't blame your bofe. Not just something and snapping. 187 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,519 A man with thirteen years behind the fire the rest 188 00:17:11,559 --> 00:17:12,200 of his life I have. 189 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,640 Speaker 3: All you have to go on is his own work. 190 00:17:16,279 --> 00:17:18,599 So your work is cut out for the first you 191 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:19,640 find out and his mother. 192 00:17:19,519 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 10: He is married. 193 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,839 Speaker 3: What happened? 194 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 4: You find out the girl and after the trial waited 195 00:17:48,759 --> 00:17:55,480 yah h. 196 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 11: M hm. 197 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 12: H m hm. 198 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:06,839 Speaker 5: Hmm. 199 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: You didn't do it. 200 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:23,839 Speaker 5: You know that. 201 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:31,759 Speaker 3: I was that day, all right? The worst go ahead, 202 00:18:31,839 --> 00:18:33,960 the worst, believing you want what you want. 203 00:18:33,839 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 8: To forget about them, what you mentioned the woman. 204 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 2: It was all like that day, weeks times five and 205 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,200 a half months, seeing everybody whose name turns up in 206 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:17,519 the court. 207 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 4: The things you learn, the history of the case is 208 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,519 like a garbage. You have to wake the croup looking 209 00:19:23,599 --> 00:19:26,920 for the truth and the pile of legal garbage. Find 210 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:34,000 the truck driver, and I know the court clerk and 211 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,000 mister keep my name out of a half. I got 212 00:19:37,039 --> 00:19:39,960 a jack picking. But I heard the judge say after 213 00:19:40,039 --> 00:19:43,279 the jewey Sam and Billy, I heard him say he 214 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,480 was going to get metric a new trial. 215 00:19:46,039 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 3: But the judge, well, he died ten years ago. The 216 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,599 court stenography. The lawyer, he had something funny about him. 217 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,319 Speaker 5: Make sure had to go on the stand himself, but 218 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,559 he's lawyer wouldn't want tom. 219 00:19:57,559 --> 00:20:01,079 Speaker 3: Finally, you run down every last three, but only one 220 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:01,680 more thing to do. 221 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 5: So you do it. 222 00:20:04,039 --> 00:20:05,799 Speaker 4: Go down to the State Attorney's office and ask for 223 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:13,880 the file. Stall yes again, stall, ask again, Finally get it, 224 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,319 sit down with it. Dates One thing hits you like 225 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,559 a piss between the eyes. A date top of the statement. 226 00:20:22,839 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 6: Chember twenty three, nineteen thirty two half a David of 227 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:31,000 real well for twenty fine Jeorse's mattress Chember three. 228 00:20:34,039 --> 00:20:35,839 Speaker 3: Three, tasting like old. 229 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,799 Speaker 4: What your lips and support You just go in and 230 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,079 ask if it wasn't very important, Larry, yeah, do favor, 231 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,440 will schure tell me what do you want? 232 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,519 Speaker 3: See if you can find out when the arrested the 233 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:48,400 guy who kills London not checking sure. 234 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,039 Speaker 6: And here it is not Joseph rested five forty five am, 235 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,960 December twenty twenty second said okay. 236 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, So now you've got to find they're a 237 00:21:12,079 --> 00:21:15,559 Wallace checked bars, you hunk the lineup, you hang around 238 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,400 Polish churches. There is in your question and your dig. 239 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:24,519 One day you'll find worse and the chief scared suspicious, 240 00:21:25,319 --> 00:21:27,599 and then again you ask her, come on there, what 241 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:29,519 happened between the time they picked him up and the 242 00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:30,759 time you identified him. 243 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:31,279 Speaker 9: I told you. 244 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,519 Speaker 4: Listen there, I'm a reporter. I know when TOMPs picked 245 00:21:35,559 --> 00:21:37,240 up a suspect and help someone in front of witnesses. 246 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:38,640 They don't wait a couple of days so people to 247 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,039 forget their hustle. You're trying to tell me the tops 248 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:42,359 wait as long to put the thing on the magic 249 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,759 when it was a cop who was killed. You know 250 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,200 what went on those two days December twenty two and 251 00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:51,839 twenty three. Oh look, if he's guilty, nothing you can 252 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,200 say can make it any worse for him. If he 253 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:54,400 sent us in, you can make it up to him 254 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,759 a just one sent No, no, yeah, what are your 255 00:21:58,839 --> 00:22:00,279 scar Who's hanging people? 256 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 3: I don't nothing. You're scared, all right? I'm me. 257 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 4: His mother. 258 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: The cops are state attorney. I don't look like believe 259 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,039 me what I stand for? 260 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 4: The cops and the state attorneys. The paper barrel. The 261 00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:27,680 papers can make them and break them. All they need 262 00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,400 is a truth. Now you're scared of the cops. 263 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 11: Why why. 264 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: They want Barrol? What did they do? Why not? 265 00:22:43,519 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 4: There? 266 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,519 Speaker 3: You're play the rest of the line on a whim. Stand. 267 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:56,319 Oh that's it. Why don't you know what the statute 268 00:22:56,319 --> 00:23:01,640 of limitation is? They can arrest you. M. It's too late, 269 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,400 it's too long ago. But it's not too late to 270 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,000 tell the truth. 271 00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 6: Now. 272 00:23:05,559 --> 00:23:32,319 Speaker 3: What did they do? M? Yes, no, can take your 273 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:42,079 time now, A quiet little It was definitely established today. 274 00:23:45,640 --> 00:24:03,160 Other case, M. Not chick innocent? The killing right steadily 275 00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:07,119 A long time. You handed to Carroll. He looks at 276 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,640 it and asks you do, Yeah, what's your middle initiation? 277 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:14,279 Haven't got one? Oh? Hey, wait a minute, where are 278 00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:16,440 you going. I's want to see the edition coming out. 279 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 9: The paper's calling the best lawyers, and the stake we're 280 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,160 getting immediate action from the war departments. 281 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 3: Hey, where you're doing? Or walk there? And I feel 282 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,000 like I've been working that case for ninety nine years. 283 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,000 Head generally vaguely, you realize. 284 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 7: And the city hadit to ask you for your middle 285 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,799 initial That was the way of letting you know your 286 00:24:43,839 --> 00:24:48,880 name is growing up in lights byeline still something more important. 287 00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: You can't figure out. 288 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 11: What it is. 289 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: You go down by the lake shore in. 290 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 4: Back in the time, night after night, and one night 291 00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:03,440 you find yourself outside the metrical house. 292 00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: The door you need to follow in a cheap soup. 293 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:18,079 Oh you're right, yeah right? Why I will forget it? 294 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 5: And it is right now. Ques. 295 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 3: If anybody should come with me, it's true. M M, 296 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:54,519 I'm a narrow stairs. Get you. 297 00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:25,319 Speaker 5: What does she say, Joe? 298 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: It's going to be all. 299 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: Ye, ladies and gentlemen at this moment, the executive mentioned 300 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,839 at Springfield, Illinois, a distinguished group of public officials and 301 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,240 newspaper men. I've gathered at an informal dinner to honor 302 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,519 a reporter, James McGuire of Cargo Time. Teach your assignment. 303 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,640 I'll take you to Springfield. The next voice you will 304 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,079 hear will be that of the Honorable White eighth Green 305 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,240 Governor of the State of Illinois. 306 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,279 Speaker 17: James maguire, Officials of the State of Illinois and of 307 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,119 the City of Chicago, members of the editorial staff at 308 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:29,400 the Chicago Time, Ladies and gentlemen, the habits our honored 309 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:34,359 guest tonight, an outstanding representative of the American press, a 310 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,200 man who, through fearless search for the truth of. 311 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: Instrumental in writing a great wrong. 312 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:46,039 Speaker 17: James maguire, you uncovered the facts which enables me to 313 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,880 grant a full pardon to Joseph Metcheck. People of the 314 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,640 State of Illinois are grateful be for you helped to 315 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,880 restore an innocent man to society and the re home. 316 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,920 Ladies and gentlemen. I'm happy to present to you, mister 317 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:03,880 James maguire. It's your call the time. 318 00:28:05,319 --> 00:28:14,759 Speaker 3: Thank you, a thank you, Governor Dreen. It's a great 319 00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:16,720 honor to be your guest here to night. 320 00:28:17,839 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 6: And I'm mighty happy that Darren wilf Erry, Alan Blow 321 00:28:22,559 --> 00:28:27,279 and Jackson fail and here with me. They deserve fully 322 00:28:27,319 --> 00:28:31,799 in the credit. Darren gave me the feature assignment. Harry 323 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,759 spotted the WANTA in first place. Jack liked it with 324 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,720 me for months, backing down five hundred documents and forty 325 00:28:39,839 --> 00:28:51,400 personal interviews. Thank you very much, Oliver, Jimme, Jimmy, I 326 00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:55,000 take real pleasure and presenting to you the Feature Assignment 327 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:59,880 Award of merit. Yours is the eternal vigilance that protects 328 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:01,400 our American freedom. 329 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:05,599 Speaker 3: Thank you, Governor. 330 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:13,759 Speaker 2: You are listening to Feature Assignment, a new program bringing 331 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:16,000 you the crew and authentic stories of the men and 332 00:29:16,079 --> 00:29:20,039 women behind the pielines of your newspapers and dedicated to 333 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,720 those people the press whose earnestness, honestly and the courage 334 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,119 ever strengthened the cornerstone about the markets, truth and the 335 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,440 free press stories of newspaper men on. 336 00:29:33,359 --> 00:29:34,799 Speaker 3: Teacher assignment. 337 00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 2: Listen again at the same time, same station next week, 338 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,799 when Feature Assignment will bring you the true story of 339 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,000 a twenty two year old cub reporter who entered jail 340 00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:10,599 for his teacher assignment. Teacher Assignment is a copyright teacher 341 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:12,799 and was thought to you from the New York studios 342 00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:16,839 of the Columbia God Casting System. Feature Assignment was produced 343 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,759 by Claven and Headwick, written by Alan Sloan, written of 344 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,519 music by Ray Block Officer, and directed by John deets 345 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,559 Now Barry Kroger. Pronouncer was Frank Kellen. 346 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,079 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Alas this will be the only episode I 347 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,000 don't have a cast list for because we have cast 348 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,440 list because we have scripts obtained this part of the 349 00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:53,079 tobacco settlement, and as this episode wasn't sponsored by anybody, Uh, 350 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,640 there's no particular reason to have scripts. As for the 351 00:30:56,759 --> 00:31:00,680 episode itself, it's pretty close to the real life case 352 00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:06,279 and unlike the actual Big Story series as it launched, 353 00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:11,920 this episode didn't change the man wrongfully convicted of the crime, 354 00:31:13,599 --> 00:31:19,039 and it also raises a really big difference with Call 355 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:24,039 north Side seven seven seven. Called north Side seven seven 356 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,119 seven had a really cool clue in order to resolve 357 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,759 the case, involving a flip newspaper negative and revealing the 358 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:38,039 real time. And it's a cool technological reveal for the time, 359 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:44,359 and certainly it just makes good viewing even now. But 360 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,839 in the real life case, it was just garden variety 361 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,720 police corruption which couldn't be portrayed on the screen and 362 00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:56,440 wasn't as good filmmaking, but it's what happened. It also 363 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,720 would have probably run a foul of the Heyse code. 364 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,960 I should also say it's the biggest falsification in the 365 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,359 name of telling a good story. One of the greatest 366 00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:11,359 nor films based on a true story ends with this 367 00:32:11,759 --> 00:32:16,119 iconic scene of the killer being shot down in the sewer. 368 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,839 In real life, he not only outlived all the detectives, 369 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,079 but ended up getting released and outlived nearly everyone who 370 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,839 made the film. The one key point that this radio 371 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,680 adaptation misses, as does nearly every adaptation of the story, 372 00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:36,799 and I think everyone I've encountered, is that there were 373 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,480 two men convicted of the crime, and the evidence against 374 00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:46,519 both were equally perchured. Unfortunately, this illustrates the risk of 375 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,799 outsourcing justice to the newspapers, as the other man wasn't 376 00:32:51,839 --> 00:32:55,400 a media costs lab and didn't have a mother scrubbing 377 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,559 floors for him, so he ended up sitting in jail 378 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,279 for another five years. At one point the governor offered 379 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,599 to commute his sentence to seventy five years, which would 380 00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:10,759 have meant that he would have been eligible for parole 381 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:20,119 in nineteen fifty eight. The man in question, Theodore Man's Seawits, 382 00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:25,039 was an on abbey with this offer and refused it, 383 00:33:25,319 --> 00:33:27,960 which turned out to be the right choice, as he 384 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,720 was freed legally on a read in nineteen fifty and 385 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:39,480 both men were compensated by the legislature, with Man sequence 386 00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:46,039 getting fourteen thousand more than Matchick. Well, now we turn 387 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,400 to listener comments and feedback, and we go to YouTube, 388 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:56,599 where Mildred comments are her first impression on the thirteenth key. 389 00:33:57,839 --> 00:34:01,519 I've never heard of this show until today, so it 390 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,200 was basically a true crime show of the nineteen forties. 391 00:34:05,799 --> 00:34:10,719 I'm a big fan of true crime. I think that's accurate, 392 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,960 although there are some details changed, quite a few actually 393 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,840 in some cases, so maybe true ish crime might be 394 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,880 more apt. Some of the music was too loud. I 395 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,599 could barely hear the narrator. Different parts were hard to hear, 396 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,719 making it difficult to know who's who. 397 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 11: And what was what. 398 00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: I will have to listen to this again. Thanks for 399 00:34:32,079 --> 00:34:35,719 the thanks for the upload, well, thanks so much. Appreciate 400 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,920 the common Mildred. Sorry you had a problem with the audio, 401 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,800 which I don't think was the worst, but probably was 402 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,760 a bit middle of the road in terms of quality. 403 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:52,400 Given that it was recorded in an odd way, I 404 00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:55,840 can understand why some listeners might have an issue with it. 405 00:34:56,519 --> 00:35:00,639 I am hopeful of this particular set that we're going 406 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,000 to be using now has quite a few upgrades, so 407 00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:08,440 hopefully we won't have as many sound quality issues, but 408 00:35:09,079 --> 00:35:11,360 do apologize for those that come up, because I know 409 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:15,199 it's frustrating when you can't hear the program. All right, Well, 410 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,000 now it is time to thank our Patreon supporter of 411 00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,360 the day, and I want to thank Jim, Patreon supporter 412 00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:25,280 since March twenty eighteen, currently supporting the podcast at the 413 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,239 Detective Sergeant level of seven dollars and fourteen cents or 414 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,039 more per month. Thanks so much for your support, Jim. 415 00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:34,440 That will do it for today. If you're enjoying the podcast, 416 00:35:34,559 --> 00:35:39,039 please follow us using your favorite podcast software, and if 417 00:35:39,079 --> 00:35:42,840 you're enjoying the podcast on YouTube, be sure to like 418 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,480 the video, subscribe to the channel, and mark the notification bell. 419 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,960 We will be back next Tuesday with another episode of 420 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,239 the Big Story, but join us back here tomorrow for 421 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,440 Broadways My Beat. 422 00:35:55,519 --> 00:36:03,679 Speaker 14: Where Daddy, Danny, what do you want doctor Sinski's report? 423 00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:06,280 He was busy on another He asked me to bring 424 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,519 it to you, so leave it on my desk. All right, 425 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,920 you're not gonna look at it, Danny. 426 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 11: Why I know what's in it? 427 00:36:16,559 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 14: I thought I did too to like, glanced it over 428 00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:19,920 on the way to your office. You'd better take a 429 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:20,280 look at it. 430 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,880 Speaker 11: You're so eager. I don't want to spoil it for you. 431 00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:24,599 Tell me about it. Muggavn Dan, you tell me, i' muggavin. 432 00:36:25,679 --> 00:36:29,519 We've had other kids, now, this one's no different that all, Muggavin. 433 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 14: That's what I've been trying to tell you. This one 434 00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:34,320 is different. Just what you saw when you first found her. 435 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,599 That's what's in the report. Beaten skull, fractioned with the 436 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:38,920 butt of a gun, nothing else. 437 00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 11: Then give me a motive, Give me another motive. Why 438 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:52,039 a fourteen year old child should gloor we're speaking. 439 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,599 Speaker 3: Sagan Tartaglia at this end. 440 00:36:54,039 --> 00:36:57,119 Speaker 17: Homicide Danny woman in the backyard of house in eighteen 441 00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:00,920 forty five West eleven people named Murray upstairs. 442 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,199 Speaker 11: Once you on it, shall I tell him you were agreeable? 443 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:08,119 Danny tell him I'm bring me a molded magabin upstairs 444 00:37:08,199 --> 00:37:08,960 wants me to run an. 445 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,599 Speaker 1: Errand I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime. 446 00:37:12,039 --> 00:37:16,559 Send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot nett, 447 00:37:17,159 --> 00:37:20,519 follow us on Twitter at Radio Detectives, and check us 448 00:37:20,559 --> 00:37:26,840 out on Instagram, Instagram, dot com, slash Great Detectives from Boise, Idaho. 449 00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:29,719 This is your host, Adam Graham signing off.