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Speaker 4: Gentlemen, how are you guys doing today?
Speaker 1: Hey? Ben?
Speaker 5: Doing well? How you doing?
Speaker 3: Hi? Ben? Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1: Always a pleasure, always a blessing talking sports court with you, gentlemen.
You find, gentlemen, guys, always drama brewin out there in
the sports court world, and I know there is always something. Look,
some of it's boring, like law can be boring, but
sometimes sport cord is very, very fun.
Speaker 4: Let's get into this.
Speaker 1: Judge has ruled that player with NBA experience can return
to play for U Bama for now, but could open
the door for other players. What's the most recent ruling
on players getting NBA experience and then playing college basketball?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Ben, it's reading that headline is kind of crazy, right.
Al Abama player allowed to return to college after three
years of entering the NBA draft well, a lot of
legal issues right now because of NIL and transfer portal.
They involve eligibility in the NCAA. So we're going to
dive in on this one. What this involves is Charles Bidiaco,
who is a seven foot center all SEC defensive players,
so you know, good skills. Well, back in twenty twenty three,
he enters the NBA Draft and he doesn't get drafted,
but he signed some G League contracts, signed three different
G League contracts at different types and plays for NBA
franchises essentially, but he never plays in the NBA game. Well, now,
Charles were going to call him Charles in Charge. He
isn't digging the G League and so he wants to
go back to school. He wants to go back to
Alabama says he has eligibility left, and so he has
gone to the NCAA and say he wants to it,
and the NCAA says, well, and interestingly enough, Alabama wants
him back. You know, they're number seventeen in the country
and they want the guy back. Well, the NCAA says, no,
not so fast. You're you don't recruit, you don't meet
our eligibility requirements. And the NCAA came in and said,
we have not and we will not grant eligibility to
any perspective returning student athlete who have signed an NBA contract.
They say this is based on the belief that eligibility
rules ensure high school students get a shot at earning scholarships,
and we will continue to consistently apply to fend these rules,
essentially saying, hey, players will leave college and schools, they
re up and they get other players in and everyone's
plans on these roster spots. Well, now what's happened because
he is pushed back. Charles has sued the NCAAA and
he's requesting what's called a temporary restraining order. He's gone
to the judge and said, I need a temporary restraining
order because if you don't allow me this, I will
be anti it'll be anti competitive, and I won't be
allowed to compete. Well, the judge agreed with him for now.
The judge granted the temporary restraining order, saying that the
NCAA is prevented for the time being enforcing their eligibility
rule and that they've set a hearing for ten days
from now, So right now he's eligible to go back
to school and play at Alabama. He points to a
situation we talked about a few weeks ago where a
player that had played actually had been drafted in the NBA,
but it went over and played in Europe, played pro.
Apparently the NCAA sees that is different than signing an
NBA contract, and he was allowed to go back to Baylor.
So all of these situations, you know, they're kind of crazy,
you know, thinking, oh, someone's left school, has been a
pro even in the you know, NBA organizations, and now
can come back and play. You know, I think b
y E. Didn't they sign somebody that I don't know
what they did, but they've.
Speaker 1: Got yeah, b doo, he's uh, he played in the
G League.
Speaker 5: He played in the G League. So right now, for
now he's eligible. So for the next ten days he
can play. We'll see what the court says.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because obviously the legality of it, you
can play, you can, you should be eligible. You're in school, right,
you're in the G League, you're in the NBA, you
can come back or whatever.
Speaker 4: You're in the EuroLeague.
Speaker 1: You should be able to go to school and be
eligible to play basketball. The interesting thing is this. There's
a legal component that we're discussing. I'm wondering if the
NCAA can legally disqualify teams that play players that would
be deemed maybe ineligible per their bylaws from entering into
the NCAA tournament. Does that make sense, Like, if they disqualify.
Speaker 5: I haven't we haven't heard that issue come up. I've
been him on the school. Have thought that once you
leave school and give up your eligibility and enter, you know,
enter a draft and play pro, I don't think you
should be able to go back. I think the NCAA's
role there, and I think the nca is going to
win this one. I really do. I think that he
signed an NBA contract and played for three different G
League teams. I'm I'm of the mind that hey, you
need to move on now. And you know, if this
takes place in all these NCAA teams are bringing back
players that you know, obviously they're talented players. This guy's
seven foot was a defensive you know, all defensive team.
He can help a college team, right, so you know,
and in the middle of the season too. This isn't
actually at the beginning of the season. This is right
in the middle of the season when teams are you know,
vamping up for the for their conference game. So I'm
personally against it. The legalities are different, the anti trust
laws and you know what will apply here. So it's
you're weighing the issue of eligibility rules in the NCAA.
We can call them laws, but they're actually administrative rules
and laws such as anti trust laws. Does the anti
trust law applying this situation? And we're going to talk
about a case later on where the judge said no,
it didn't meet anti trust musters. So that's my take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because, like I, I go
back and forth with this legality and morality, right ethics,
you know, they all kind of cross pollinate and they
kind of intersect sometimes. It's like how we've been operating
in the past, you know, is probably the right moral
ethical The non nil non trust portal era kind of
took advantage of the student athlete right for their earning
potential when everyone else was making millions, hundreds of millions
athletic departments, coaches, TV per universities. Right, they're all making
nc double as a two billion dollar organization, and now
the players are making money, and you know, and they're
they're going towards the money they're in the G League,
but they can make more money in the NC Double A.
Speaker 4: Now we kind of we're.
Speaker 1: At an impass and that's the struggle right now, we're
at an impass.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me throw a crazy situation out there. I
think three years out. I mean I agree with the
nil and the eligibility and the transfer portal. I mean,
that's that's the today's game. But what if Lebron said, hey,
you know what, I never went to college. I have
four years of eligibility left. What would happen there?
Speaker 3: That's that is the extreme.
Speaker 5: That's the extreme. Plenty of players were one and done
and let's say their NBA career craps out, it doesn't
go like it was supposed to. An they think cale
I could earn.
Speaker 4: I can still make some money.
Speaker 1: He can be a washed up forty five year old
plane for you know, usc h.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm sure there's some people that would love
to see that.
Speaker 5: What if it's a twenty five year old, you know,
who just kind of didn't make in the NBA, played
a couple of years and thinks, god, I could probably
go make a million dollars a year playing for a
college team. You know that that that changes everything?
Speaker 1: Well, all one up you here, what if he he
all of a sudden decided I'm Lebrona James and wants
to play college women's college basketball.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm just saying what I mean, I'm just saying.
Speaker 5: Well, the Supreme Court is working on that right now.
The uh but but yeah, the Supreme Court's working on
that right now. The the issue of trans athletes, mainly
trans females playing in female sports.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, well no it did I say. I
called you guys, dudes. I'm like guys like this, you know.
Speaker 1: Like when you get into the the legal, moral, ethical
right thing to do, they all intersect right like it's
it becomes it becomes very it becomes very nuanced and
controversial and politicized in these realms.
Speaker 4: Do you guys see it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean people would definitely see that. And
I think we're trying to right now focus on the
you know, I mean, you know, old timers, you know, traditionalists,
they don't want to see any of this stuff, you know,
but it's the it's the way of college athletics and
mainly football, and basketball. Now the the eligibility is being
challenged obviously nil and and players really, as we know,
their motivation to have more eligibility is not so they
can go to biology class so they can earn ANIL contract.
Speaker 4: No doubt about.
Speaker 5: Oh crap, this is I'm not going to play real pros,
so how can I just play here in the semi pros?
Speaker 4: No doubt about it. Let's talk about Duke.
Speaker 1: Duke issuing quarterback who entered the transfer portal for a
breach of NIO contract and he's trying to block that transfer.
Update today Judge Grant's Duke a tro they hit pause,
QB can't transfer for now?
Speaker 4: Give us an update?
Speaker 3: Sure, Ben, Yeah, this is Darien Mensa you know, has
been a great player quarterback for Duke. And in December
of twenty twenty four, so going back more than a
year ago, he signed a two year contract with Duke.
And so now just last Friday, as the transfer window
portal is closing, he entered, tells Duke he I want
to I want to enter the portal and so this
sets into motion right all of the legal issues, and
so Duke pretty quickly files a lawsuit to essentially enforce
the contract that they have with him. They're like, hey,
wait a minute, we have a contract. You know, we
have exclusive rights to your NIL. You're going to play
for us. We've got a deal. We were paying you
money and you need to play for us. And so
he wants out of the contract. We saw this a
little bit with the Washington quarterback a week or so
ago as well, who kind of put his toe in
the water over this and then kind of withdrew it
and said, Okay, I'll guess I'll stay. After Washington made
similar threats, but Duke is following through. They filed this
lawsuit and with it requested a temporary restraining order, and
like you mentioned, the judge went ahead and had to
act kind of quickly on this because of the transfer
portal and granted the tro And so what it means
is that he cannot enroll in another school and he
can't license his NIL rights to anybody else, and so
kind of I think with the judge, what this does
in a way is buys some time, because there's another
hearing coming up on February second, just here in a
few weeks where they'll consider our prelimara injunction. But yeah,
I mean this goes back to what you guys were
talking about a minute ago, right about what's right. I mean,
he told Duke, I'm going to play for you guys.
And I think the other issue that we have here
is now this year, we're dealing with one transfer portal window, right,
and so teams are scrambling, the schools are and players, right,
everybody's kind of waiting around to see what's going to
happen right where, where, And especially with these quarterbacks, the
high paid quarterbacks, where are they going to land and
what school needs somebody? And now they're desperate, maybe they'll
pay more money, Maybe I can get more, and so
they want to get out of these out of these contracts.
But yeah, it just really has the potential for just
a lot of chaos if there can be no predictability
for when a player is going to stay or not.
So you know that Duke's Duke's gonna hold them to it.
They're going to try anyway.
Speaker 1: These quarterbacks trying to get that eligibility. I'll miss quarterback
Trinidade Chamblet Chamblissho is also trying to sue the NC
double A with a medical waiver system trying to maybe
circumvent some medical eligibility bylaws that have been that have
imposed by the NCAA.
Speaker 4: What do you got for us here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Trinidad Chambless again. Eligibility is the name of the game.
Trinidadad Trinidad. Chamblis wants a six year of eligibility. And
his claim is he's gone to the NCAA and you know,
ask for an extra year of eligibility and the NCAA
has denied it. And his claim is that while he
was playing for you know, the powerhouse Ferris State. I
don't even know what division they are. He claims that
in twenty twenty two, he, you know, because of medical issues.
He said he was incapacitated and he had an injury
that prevented him from playing that year. And the NCAA
they looked at it and said, wait a minute. The
proper documentation from that time period was not provided, and
Farris State's reasoning for Chambliss was that not playing after
red shirting the previous season, so he'd already red shirted
and now they were kind of saying that he he
was claiming to development needs and our team's competitive circumstances,
so he was there claiming, hey, Trinidad, you didn't want
to play because Triniday, you know, fair Estate wasn't really
a great place to play that right now. So now
he's coming in and saying, I want another year of eligibility.
He has sued the NCAA because they won't give it
to him, and he is he is also he wants
a preliminary injunction. In a preliminary injunction, he's saying that
if the court does not grant a preliminary injunction, it
will result in irreparable harm. That's kind of this one
of the standards for a preliminary injunction. It will result
in irreparable harm preventing him from you know, earning his
nil contract. He's earning capacity anti competitiveness and you know
it goes against anti trust laws all of this. So
he has filed it. The court hasn't I guess they
haven't ruled just yet on this. Earlier this week, legal
team planned to Yeah, he's filed lawsuit and requested the
preliminary injunction. This is a strange one to me. He's
entered into an nil contract, you know, and he wants
to stay at Old Miss, but he's he's ranked the
number three quarterback in the upcoming NFL draft, So you
ask yourself, why wouldn't he He's kind of achieved what
he really wants to do, isn't it. He kind of
he's reached the heights that he wants to do. What
if he goes back to Ole Miss and has a
crappy season, What if he'll earn a he'll earn a
bag of cash. What if he gets hurt? What if
it's a career ending injury. You know, I don't know
what his reasoning is. I guess he wants h he
wants the option of both, right, and you know, and
he's looking at the patron saint of eligibility, mister Diego
Pavia and who got eligibility, but his was very nuanced,
you know, Uh Diego Pavia was based on you know,
him playing at a juco that wasn't under the NCAA's
rule at that time, where you know, uh Trinidad was
playing for a D one or D one two two schools.
So you know, my guess is the court will grant
the preliminary in junction for now until they can really
look at this and decide what they want to do
with it. But again, you know, players scrambling for eligibility
because they can earn nil money. That's exactly what's going on,
because there weren't nil contracts. You wouldn't want to stick
around in biology class, would you.
Speaker 1: Well, the Miami quarterback has apparently been graduated for two
years and has it gone to class the last two years.
So I don't know how that works. I thought you
at least had to be enrolled in some classes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was That was shocking admddle.
Speaker 4: Wasn't it like what in the world? Like you got
least off?
Speaker 1: Come on, man, at least take some classes. It's free,
go learn something.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Unfortunately, Well, let's let's get into that. This news on.
Speaker 1: I believe this is with the Los Angeles Clippers. This
most recent one Clippers owner Steve Baumber sued by eleven
Aspiration Investors over Kawhi Leonard deal. This one was controversial
when it dropped. It continues to be controversial.
Speaker 3: Carry you on.
Speaker 5: We might have we might have lost Garrett there.
Speaker 3: Hey, sorry about that. Hey, my phone's being funny. Here.
There's a separate investigation here with the NBA going on
about Kawhi Leonard and really what it it revolves around
is whether or not the Clippers are are trying to
get around the salary cap, right and with some with
some funny accounting here. And the way that it's been
alleged that this is happening is this company Aspiration, who
is more or less you know, has an endorsement deal
with Kawhi Leonard that they go to Steve Balmer and
they say, hey, invest money in our company, and then
our company is going to use that to funnel it
to Kwhi Leonard in a quote unquote endorsement deal. And
this is how the Clippers can essentially pay kwhy Leonard
more money outside of the salary cap. And so these
investors are saying, hey, this is a deal. We didn't
know about this, and that you know that Balmer used us,
you know, to invest this money with him in order
to get around the salary cap. And so it's kind
of a complicated deal really with you know, a side
deal here. But it's it's bringing now an NBA owner
into this bad look for the Clippers. I mean, it
already has been, like I said, there's already an NBA
probe going on to look into it. As teams get
creative on how to pay players more and more money.
So anyway, we'll see what happens here with this one.
Speaker 1: Crazy times in the sports court today you're on your
Utah ESPN Radio network. Couple last things before we let
you go, gentlemen, there's an update. This one is one
that I don't like to talk about, but Riverside Church
settles in the midst of a trial before jury delivations
with X player on sexual assault claims.
Speaker 4: What's the latest. Yeah, Well, this is the case.
Speaker 3: We've talked about. I think we've talked about it the
last couple of weeks. But an old case right where
this involves some abuse that happened back in the seventies
and eighties involving a competition traveling basketball team which was
kind of the team back then, and there was a
church that was a sponsor of the team where the
team practiced. And so this is now a lawsuit. New
York passed the law which opened up a window to
allow these players who are now in their fifties and
sixties to bring these claims. And so they've sued this
church who was a sponsor of the team, alleging that
they knew about the abuse that was taking place. So anyway,
long story short, the case is about to go to
the jury for deliberations and the church jumps in and
has settled the case with one of the players. And
so I think they saw the writing on the wall
that this wasn't going to go their way. There was,
you know, in fact, a eyewitness testimony that we talked
about earlier. And so there's a bunch of other claims
the church is facing, and they'll probably you know what
we suspect is go out and try to settle those
cases as well.
Speaker 1: Typically, statute of limitations doesn't allow for things like this
to come to court, right, Like, why was this want
to be different?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Well, you know, kind of in a
post me to movement era in New York passed the
law which said, hey, we're going to allow we're going
to give a window of time for some of these
old sex abuse claims to be brought. So you know,
you've got to we're giving you kind of a new
statute of limitation. So it's it's an exception to the rule,
which is why we're seeing some of these old cases.
Speaker 4: That's the verdict.
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