Speaker 1: Are you been listening to to most of the Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Warren John Daton debate. I'm gonna give you my quick
Speaker 1: take on it, and then I'm gonna While i'm giving
Speaker 1: you my quick take, I want to hear from you.
Speaker 1: Six one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty six one seven,
Speaker 1: nine three one ten thirty. It was a pretty good debate. John,
Speaker 1: I think said it was an excellent debate. It was
Speaker 1: pretty good. I would say, uh, it was spirited, it
Speaker 1: was feisty. I think that Elizabeth Warren defended her her
Speaker 1: progressive democratic values pretty well. I think John Deaton criticized
Speaker 1: those values very effectively, and I think that this race
Speaker 1: might be a little tighter. I don't think that there
Speaker 1: was any sort of a huge mistake by either candidate,
Speaker 1: none that I could pick up on. We missed the
Speaker 1: first sadly, the first fifteen minutes of debate debate. I
Speaker 1: apologize for that. Those of you who might have heard
Speaker 1: something in the fifteen minutes while I was filling for time,
Speaker 1: feel free. I'm going to take a quick break. These
Speaker 1: lines are lighting up. My name's Dan Ray. This is Nightside.
Speaker 1: What did you think? If you think there was a winner?
Speaker 1: Who do you think want and tell me why I'm
Speaker 1: not here to argue with you. I didn't hear the
Speaker 1: whole debate. I heard the final forty five minutes. So
Speaker 1: you have the advantage over me. Let's have at it
Speaker 1: right after this quick break here on Nightside. It's been
Speaker 1: an interesting night so far. You now will continue to
Speaker 1: make it very interesting.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1: Okay, so when I joined and I heard them talking
Speaker 1: about abortion, very predictable. They were asked about cryptocurrency. Deaton
Speaker 1: is a big fan of cryptocurrency, and I think he's
Speaker 1: a free market guy. Senator Warren comes from the perspective
Speaker 1: of a command and control regulatory scheme. Again, Warren talks
Speaker 1: about all the consumer protection laws that we have, and
Speaker 1: yet how many of us are scammed. Government can't even
Speaker 1: stop us from getting these these phone calls. At dinner time,
Speaker 1: they talked about Israel. Deaton very supportive of Israel, accusing
Speaker 1: Warren of being more critical of Israel than she is
Speaker 1: of Hamas. And she sort of backed that up by
Speaker 1: saying she wants to stop the bombing, wants more humanitarian relief,
Speaker 1: doesn't say for whom all of us want the hostages release. Uh.
Speaker 1: And Deeton made the point that a run is closer
Speaker 1: to a nuke, and of course Warren said, well, if
Speaker 1: the Trump administration had followed through some again, I think
Speaker 1: that was an area where Deton did very well. Cost
Speaker 1: of housing. Warren describes that cost of housing, the way
Speaker 1: to get to resolve it is to pump a lot
Speaker 1: of money into it and build the government to build
Speaker 1: three million more housing units across the country. Those of
Speaker 1: you who have lived in government housing, you know how
Speaker 1: great that works out. Dayton, of course, wanted to close
Speaker 1: the borders. He feels that there's too many people here
Speaker 1: for economics one on one on the MCAST requirement, very predictable. Daton,
Speaker 1: who by the way, mispronounced the name Wellesley and referred
Speaker 1: to it as Wesley. That's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: full power on his part. Warren will vote yes to
Speaker 1: get rid of the MCST graduation requirement. Uh, she's with
Speaker 1: the teachers Union. You could have know that. Uh. And
Speaker 1: and Deaton said, no, we should, we should keep it.
Speaker 1: So you have some differences. I think it was I
Speaker 1: thought Dton did much better than I expected. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say he won the debate. I don't think
Speaker 1: there was a winner. I think it was a good
Speaker 1: exchange of ideas. Uh. And and Deaton was pretty quick
Speaker 1: on his feet. Elizabeth Warren. Uh, that is what she's
Speaker 1: known for. She has her her talking points down and
Speaker 1: she she delivers them very effectively. Agn you have a
Speaker 1: liberal Democrat, a progressive Democrat, and and sort of a
Speaker 1: relatively middle of the road Republican. He certainly tries to
Speaker 1: take the abortion issue off the table because that hurts Republicans.
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. And so that's my take
Speaker 1: on it. I'd love to hear from you. Let's start
Speaker 1: it off with Dot and Medford. Dot. What'd you think tonight?
Speaker 3: Hey, Dan, I'll tell you Daton won this hands down.
Speaker 3: He got an A and she got an F because
Speaker 3: she's always the same. And you know, if you remember,
Speaker 3: she couldn't even win the presidency in this state.
Speaker 1: Remember, no, I remember it was not a very twenty
Speaker 1: twenty No, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: Of course, she would say that the people of Massachusetts
Speaker 1: wanted to keep her in the Senate.
Speaker 3: Well, we can't have her in there for six more years.
Speaker 3: She's going to be in her eighties. Then we don't
Speaker 3: need this. We need to get a fresh guy. He
Speaker 3: looked good. He'd make a great senator. That's my take.
Speaker 5: That's my thank you for.
Speaker 1: Being as clear as you always are.
Speaker 5: Dot.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it so much.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, thanks, all right.
Speaker 1: I gotta keep rolling. I'm going to get as many
Speaker 1: people in as we can. All I gotta do is
Speaker 1: keep island. The only line open right now is six one, seven, nine, three, one,
Speaker 1: ten thirty. Uh, Nico in the thou and Nico next
Speaker 1: on nightside. How are you sir?
Speaker 5: Hi Dan? How are you sorry? I don't want to
Speaker 5: waste too much time. I really called it.
Speaker 1: You could say hi.
Speaker 5: Today because I want I wanted to talk about housing.
Speaker 5: But I you know, I really that m Cast thing.
Speaker 5: I actually I was. I took they had park back
Speaker 5: when I was in middle school. They were switching over
Speaker 5: from Mcast to Park. I don't know. But the point
Speaker 5: is I was, I was in fourth grade reading at
Speaker 5: a third grade reading level, right and I'm now at
Speaker 5: a I'm now in the second best college in the world. Babson.
Speaker 5: If anybody was curious, so the fact that the notion that.
Speaker 1: By the way, you're correct, a great school and people
Speaker 1: who graduate from Are you currently a student there.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, I'm an I'm an honor student.
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you something. It is a great
Speaker 1: it is a great college. And I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: I believe that the starting of salaries for Babson graduates
Speaker 1: is the best in the country.
Speaker 5: Yes, it is. It's it's around seventy seventy seventy ballpark
Speaker 5: of seventy thousand plus and minus five. Yeah, okay, Well, besides, besides,
Speaker 5: besides MCAST, which I mean, I intend to vote in
Speaker 5: favor of keeping the MCAST standard. I believe Senator Warren vote.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a no vote. Yeah, I just want
Speaker 1: to be clara. Yeah, that's all, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, absolutely, thank you. I was actually unsure of
Speaker 5: myself whether no, but so thank you for But I
Speaker 5: wanted to talk about housing because I have a bit
Speaker 5: of an interesting insight into this. I actually and.
Speaker 1: By the way, John Beaker, Nick, not to interrupt you again,
Speaker 1: but I think I misspoke. I think it's question two.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, I don't have it in front
Speaker 1: of me. Someone can correct me on that. It is
Speaker 1: the m test, uh, and it is the Union wants
Speaker 1: to get rid of the the the graduation requirement, and
Speaker 1: so the union vote yes, and a lot of the
Speaker 1: business interests want you vote no. Go ahead. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: qu keep quiet. Go ahead. I apologized, you.
Speaker 5: Know what you're You're I don't. I don't want to
Speaker 5: mislead people, either whether you intend to vote yes or no.
Speaker 5: But I wanted to talk mainly about housing because I
Speaker 5: actually go to Washington, d C. I've had the opportunity
Speaker 5: to on behalf of the Massachusetts chapter of the National
Speaker 5: Associational home Builders. And you know, I am a Republican.
Speaker 5: I will say that, so I'm going to discredit myself.
Speaker 5: And I'm also gonna say this. I've talked to Laurie Trahan.
Speaker 5: I've talked to Jake Auchincloss. I've talked to Paul Keat
Speaker 5: and Jim McGovern, I mean, Stephen Lynch. I talked to
Speaker 5: all the Democrats. I really would tell you if Democrats
Speaker 5: were four housing Elizabeth Warren, we don't even take a
Speaker 5: meeting with her because it's not worth our time, all right.
Speaker 5: The notion that you can build a house in mass
Speaker 5: is chuses for one hundred and eighty thousand dollars ladies
Speaker 5: and gentlemen is the most absurd notion in the world,
Speaker 5: all right, And the lie that she just proposed that
Speaker 5: that they're going to be able to do that, I
Speaker 5: never mind building a house. Whoever built that plan should
Speaker 5: be anywhere near a house, because that's so it's so
Speaker 5: palpably false. You really, when Dayan said it takes six
Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars to get started on building a house
Speaker 5: and then it takes another two years to get all
Speaker 5: the permitting processes, He's on the money. I'm going to
Speaker 5: say this right now. I've lobbied for housing policies. He's
Speaker 5: it's just the it's Swiss cheese. Her plan is Swiss
Speaker 5: cheese Dan, and I couldn't. I couldn't let her get
Speaker 5: away with saying that without at least trying to tell
Speaker 5: people that she's on this issue. I mean, I know
Speaker 5: twenty years ago she wented a documentary and talked about
Speaker 5: how greedy banks were before the two thousand and eight
Speaker 5: crash on this issue and this issue alone, which and
Speaker 5: I'm the question was kit was coined by a kid
Speaker 5: who wants to live in the Bay State and all
Speaker 5: that I'm that kid. I didn't write that question. But
Speaker 5: I'm him. I want to live here, but I can't
Speaker 5: because it's about seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars for
Speaker 5: a ranch that fixs a rupper. So just this, this
Speaker 5: this idea that she can say something as absurd as that,
Speaker 5: I think it shows the lack of the lack of
Speaker 5: intuition and the lack of knowledge that he has about
Speaker 5: this subject. I mean, she could say thirty mayors. I mean, really,
Speaker 5: thirty mayors. Even if you get this stuff in front
Speaker 5: of in front of a town meeting or in front
Speaker 5: of a city councilor they're gonna, they're gonna. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: tell you right now, there's gonna be at least ten
Speaker 5: to fifteen, depending on the side of the town, there's
Speaker 5: gonna be done at least ten to fifteen residents to
Speaker 5: go in front of it and say, this is a
Speaker 5: this is a massive developer who's gonna ruin the land.
Speaker 5: They're gonna ruin everything else. There's a there's this permissive
Speaker 5: attitude of not in my backyard in this state that
Speaker 5: is permeated throughout residential communities across this state that has
Speaker 5: inhibited the building industry from doing anything and Elizabeth Warren,
Speaker 5: for some reason, even though she claims to be the
Speaker 5: champion of working people, has stood idly by and dismissed
Speaker 5: the mere and absolute attitude that exists in the state currently.
Speaker 5: So I I that's that's the main reason I called today,
Speaker 5: and I want to thank you for allowing me to talk.
Speaker 4: Thank you day.
Speaker 1: So I assume you're not voting for Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker 5: No, I'm not. I should have. I should have, Claire,
Speaker 5: I should have clarify, I'm.
Speaker 1: Not clear for the context of the reports. Thanks, thanks
Speaker 1: you much, great night, Thank you, Thank you. Six ten thirty,
Speaker 1: triple eight nine to nine, ten thirty. The only line
Speaker 1: is open right now six one, seven, two, five, four
Speaker 1: ten thirty. We're gonna go next to Alex in Abington, Massachusetts. Alex,
Speaker 1: you and next one Nightsiger right ahead.
Speaker 4: Hi, Dan, thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 4: I honestly, I think tonight it was it was very
Speaker 4: very clear to any Massachusetts voters that John Deaton is
Speaker 4: the right man for the job for Massachusetts US Senate.
Speaker 4: See the biggest takeaway from me. There are two things.
Speaker 4: Number One, that John Deaton is the embodiment of the
Speaker 4: American dream, pulling yourself up from the bootstraps. Elizabeth Warren,
Speaker 4: you know, she's an establishment person. She is, and she
Speaker 4: she has done absolutely nothing for Massachusetts. I mean, just
Speaker 4: look at the reaction on her face every single time
Speaker 4: she had the same talking points that she had in
Speaker 4: twenty eighteen and twenty twelve, and actually to clarify on
Speaker 4: something that in twenty eighteen she called born burned. So
Speaker 4: I mean, people make mistakes.
Speaker 1: No, no, I understand that. But guess what I just
Speaker 1: I strive to be fair. Okay, Oh yeah, absolutely of
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren. Okay, but if yeah, he called Wellesley Wesley,
Speaker 1: I you know again, I look, oh yeah, gotta be fair.
Speaker 1: I'm like an umpire. Okay, if the pitch is on
Speaker 1: the quarter strike, if it's off the plate, I'm calling
Speaker 1: it go ahead.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely no. And the last thing, Dan that you know,
Speaker 4: I've advocated for survivor and victim legislation here in Massachusetts,
Speaker 4: younger and the biggest takeaway from me was when John
Speaker 4: Deaton asked Elizabeth Warren point blank about how she sat
Speaker 4: there during a Senate hearing and did not ask any
Speaker 4: questions of people who let sex, who who allowed sex
Speaker 4: crimes to happen to children, for women to be raped,
Speaker 4: you know, John Daton being a rape victim, myself as
Speaker 4: a rape victim, I was disgusted that she completely ignored
Speaker 4: the question. John Keller did not ask for a follow
Speaker 4: up on that with her. He did, however, she asked
Speaker 4: her in that response, she did ask him a question,
Speaker 4: and John Keller said, okay, you know, John Daton, please
Speaker 4: answer the question. No. The biggest takeaway, you know, she
Speaker 4: wants to say she's a champion for women, she's a
Speaker 4: champion for minorities. I as an LGBTQ person, she says
Speaker 4: she's a champion for LGBTQ people. John Deaton was supportive
Speaker 4: of marriage equality before, long before she was, back when
Speaker 4: she was a Republican, you know in Oklahoma. She the
Speaker 4: fact that she couldn't couldn't, couldn't answer the question why
Speaker 4: she didn't hold people who abused children and let money
Speaker 4: let money control children, and and and people who let
Speaker 4: sex crimes go throughout this entire country is appalling. She
Speaker 4: should never hold elected office ever. Again. That for me
Speaker 4: is for her to say she's.
Speaker 1: Okay, now, I got it. Alex. First of all, what
Speaker 1: happened to you is terrible. Uh, you sound to me
Speaker 1: like you have recovered it, meaning you sound extraordinary. I
Speaker 1: can't imagine if what happened to you happened to you
Speaker 1: have to be quite a person to be able to
Speaker 1: deal with that. Get get it, you know, get it
Speaker 1: behind you. And look, I just want to say thanks
Speaker 1: for having the guts to call in and express yourself.
Speaker 1: It was very Have you called my show before?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I haven't.
Speaker 1: Well what you do is you do a little little
Speaker 1: applause for first time callers. And I really hope that
Speaker 1: you will call more often or call often. And I
Speaker 1: just you know, I stand in awe of people who
Speaker 1: have overcome and I mean this when I talk about
Speaker 1: people who have overcome addictions, which in some cases you know,
Speaker 1: you know it can be that can kill you. You overcall,
Speaker 1: You overcame a set of experiences which never you never
Speaker 1: should have been subjected to. But it sounds to me
Speaker 1: like you were, you were on solid footing right now
Speaker 1: and you you you just really do. Uh. Everybody should
Speaker 1: understand how how much you must have struggled with what
Speaker 1: was imposed upon you against your will. And I just
Speaker 1: I just want to congratulation and I hope you become
Speaker 1: a regular caller to this program because I need voices
Speaker 1: like yours.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you Dan. No, I mean, I wouldn't be
Speaker 4: alive here today if it weren't from my my wonderful
Speaker 4: family and friends and actually my state representative Alison Sullivan Almita.
Speaker 4: She's she's been absolutely fantastic. But I'm surrounded by blessings.
Speaker 4: So no, thank you, thank you, Dan, and I'll definitely
Speaker 4: be calling in more.
Speaker 1: Thank thank you so much, Alex appreciate the call, and again, congratulations,
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, I'll tell you when you hear other
Speaker 1: people what they have been doing here in Massachusetts. You know,
Speaker 1: I mean when I heard that last question, that is uh,
Speaker 1: you kind even a PCP in Massachusetts takes a up
Speaker 1: to a year. I mean, that's insane, that's absolutely insane.
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. We will continue with our
Speaker 1: conversation and our calls. I want to get your reaction
Speaker 1: to the debate. Whether you watched it on Channel thirty eight,
Speaker 1: it should have been on Channel four. I will say that,
Speaker 1: and I think that when Channel four has a debate
Speaker 1: of that magnitude, I say the management and Channel four
Speaker 1: made they made a decision. They made a decision not
Speaker 1: to interrupt their regularly scheduled programming. That's what that's all about.
Speaker 1: That debate should have been broadcast on Channel four. It
Speaker 1: was obviously on Channel thirty eight, but it should have
Speaker 1: been seen by a wider audience. We'll take it. We'll
Speaker 1: come right back here at Nightside.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Way live from the Window World,
Speaker 2: Nice Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1: All right, I have any corna Valley who is called
Speaker 1: back in Amy. I'm going to jump into the head
Speaker 1: of the line. Rob will bring you up here. I
Speaker 1: thought that John Dayton did a very good job tonight.
Speaker 1: What was your reaction.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought that John had a fantastic performance. And
Speaker 6: I agree with your last comment, Dan, that about this
Speaker 6: really should have been on Channel four versus Channel thirty eight.
Speaker 6: You know, this is, you know, really in the public
Speaker 6: interest to see a US Senate debate that the person
Speaker 6: will serve for the next six years. So I really
Speaker 6: felt that that it should have been on Channel four.
Speaker 6: And for those who tuned in and watched, I know
Speaker 6: most of your listeners did, I think they really stopped
Speaker 6: saw a strong debate focused on policy issues. I thought
Speaker 6: the debate about the border was particularly important. I also
Speaker 6: caught I don't know if you've talked about this yet,
Speaker 6: but I caught a moment where Senator Warren talked about
Speaker 6: it takes quote taking the seat away from me and
Speaker 6: and I thought back to the debate between Martha Buckley, yeah,
Speaker 6: and and Scott Brown, when, of course Martha Cokeley referred
Speaker 6: to it as the Kennedy seat, and you know, Scott Brown,
Speaker 6: you know, kind of infamously at this point, said no,
Speaker 6: you know, it's the people's seat.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say infamously, I'd say it famously. I think
Speaker 1: it was the right thing to refer to it, and
Speaker 1: I think it helped.
Speaker 6: Him exactly, and it exactly helped him. And I thought
Speaker 6: back to, you know, it's kind of a similar attitude
Speaker 6: by Martha Cokeley then in Senator Warren now referring to
Speaker 6: the seat as kind of their seat or an individual seat.
Speaker 4: And of course it's not not an individual seat.
Speaker 6: It is the people's seat, and the people have a
Speaker 6: right to select who serves in that seat.
Speaker 1: And you know, this is I miss I missed the
Speaker 1: first amy. I must admit to you, I missed the
Speaker 1: first fifteen minutes because we had a little bit of
Speaker 1: a problem connecting with the audio, so I was sort
Speaker 1: of vamping for fifteen minutes. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: was the first question out of the box. I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly how they started the thing that.
Speaker 6: I think the first question was related to immigration, because.
Speaker 1: We came in when when when abortion was being discussed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe the first question was immigration, and they
Speaker 4: spent some time talking about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they hit They each hit their their
Speaker 1: talking us. I thought Datan was very strong, particularly for
Speaker 1: somebody who had never been I think he'd never run
Speaker 1: for office before. I thought he represented himself very well tonight.
Speaker 1: Whether or not that, you know, makes him a winner
Speaker 1: on November fifth, it's up to the voters at this point,
Speaker 1: but he acquitted himself very well tonight, I thought, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, Amy, Thanks for being with us earlier.
Speaker 1: Thanks for getting for coming back tonight. I have full
Speaker 1: lines of going to get back to all those callers
Speaker 1: as well. So far, it's been a very positive reaction
Speaker 1: from my listeners to to your candidate's performance. Thanks again, Amy,
Speaker 1: talks soon. Thank you, Okay to all of you in
Speaker 1: the line. Donna in Northborough Logan, John, Johnny, Kevin. I'm
Speaker 1: going to go right back to the calls immediately right
Speaker 1: after of the ten o'clock news, and all of you
Speaker 1: will will be the first set of callers up. So please,
Speaker 1: one of you just dropped off, so I have one
Speaker 1: line at six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about this debate. It's it's it's an
Speaker 1: it look Senate. Senate elections don't come along that often,
Speaker 1: and this one, now, I think it's a it's a
Speaker 1: bit of an election tonight. Certainly Elizabeth Warren would have
Speaker 1: to be the prohibited favorite in a or the favorite
Speaker 1: in a democratic state. But I think John Deaton had
Speaker 1: a very respectable performance tonight, and I think I'm understanding
Speaker 1: it when I say that we'll take a break, coming
Speaker 1: right back here at Night'side. Please stay with us. We
Speaker 1: will talk about this for as long as we want.
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from any of you in all
Speaker 1: of you back on Nightside right after this