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Speaker 1: All right, Pete. So we're talking about black pilled and somebody.

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I don't want to give credit to somebody writing on

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It was, you know, a small account saying you know

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how you're doom, doom and gloom before the election, and

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you still are doom and gloom. Uh, you know with

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conversations I've had. So you know, let's just pick up

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where we left off. You asked me a.

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Speaker 2: Question, Yeah, I said, I mean, is that what you're

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is that what you're selling or is that actually just

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who you are? Because I actually believe that there are

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people out there who are black pilled. And I'm not

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talking about my friend Devin Stack here, whose name who

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the name of his podcast is black Pilled. I'm talking

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about there are people out there selling black pills who

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when somebody tries to confront them on it and say, well,

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is there anything to be hopeful for, they won't answer.

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And what that tells me is is that their whole

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business model is black pilled, and they're selling black pills

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and there's and they're not willing to give any hope

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because somehow, if they said something positive, all the people

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who are watching them and supporting them may leave you know,

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may may be like, oh well no, no, everything's everything's

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falling apart everything. There's no hope in every I come

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to you to reinforce my belief that there is no

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hope for anything. And if if you know, if a

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person were to say, well, you know, we could possibly

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be doing this and this could stave it off, or

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this could be they never give an answer. I'm thinking

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to one person in particular, who doesn't even live in

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the United States, as an American who doesn't live in

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the United States.

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Speaker 1: So so I you know, it's I've never had that

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question posed to me, and I don't. I don't, I don't.

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I mean, I don't know what exactly I'm selling. I

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just go by what I feel. And so I try.

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I I I look at myself, and you know, you

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disagree with me, might disagree with me, but I try

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to be objective. And maybe it's not as much blackpilled

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as I, you know, of being a skeptic and all

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a man. And I've said this a million times on here.

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I mean, the election didn't go the way I thought

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it would. I thought they would install her. I was wrong,

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you were right, you called it. You said it'd be

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very early in the evening on Tuesday. You and I

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actually haven't spoken since then. I don't think right. Yeah,

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and you you.

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Speaker 2: Were right right before the election, and now we're now

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it's actually the election.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you said, I don't think it's gonna be

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it's gonna be early into Tuesday evening or whatever. It'd

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be pretty early. It was. It wasn't gonna be dragged

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out days. And yeah, I thought they would install her,

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and so it didn't. It didn't play out the way

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I thought it did. But you know, so I wouldn't

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say I'm blackpilled right now. But I'm also skeptical because

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I feel like this justice that we've been called for,

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of accountability, I just haven't seen it in the last

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five years. You know, when you look at you know,

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the Cyberndinja audit, the Durham Report, I'm sure I'm missing

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something in between, Fauci. None of this stuff has come

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to flourish where people have been, you know, any charges.

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Speaker 2: So how would there be how do you expect people

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to be held accountable when their their friends are the

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ones in power. I mean, the last you said, the

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last five years specifically. Okay, so the last year of

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Trump's of Trump's presidency is just this wash of everything

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from you know, the the COVID and the the Floyd riots,

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and then the election and then you know, capping it

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off with Jen six and everything. So I mean, that's

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that's just like a lost year of insanity. But I

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mean under Joe Biden, I mean Joe Biden literally went

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on TV and said that thirty percent of the country

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was semi fascist and that they were based and they

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were the enemy. So how would you expect anybody within

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the regime, within this managerial state that has been in

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just keeps going no matter what president is in charge.

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so much said. He is saying that he's going to

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take these people down, but he has people around him,

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unlike in twenty sixteen who are saying, look, I know

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how to do this, I know how to hold people accountable.

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I mean, these people are fucking scared of Matt Gates.

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Matt Gates when you watch interviews with him, somebody, I'm

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convinced somebody told Matt Gates where all the bodies are

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buried because when he talks about what's wrong and what's

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going on, and then of course you know they're some

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Jewish businessman who's who's facing thirty three counts, has been

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sentenced to eleven years, has impersonated a police officer, has

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stolen people's in when he works for when he worked

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for the time, when he worked for the Department of Revenue,

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has been been accused of human trafficking. This is your

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witness against Matt Gates in a supposedly seventeen some supposedly

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seventeen year old girl thing. I mean, I don't know

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that anything's going to happen, but you have a better

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chance of things happening people being held accountable now than

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you did when the first time Trump got elected, who

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had no appointments at all. I mean, the appointments were

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absolutely insane. And now he's bringing in a bunch of loyalists,

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a bunch of outsiders, a bunch of people who I

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don't really some of them I don't like it. All

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I think are fucking terrible. But the main thing is

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if you want to see people held accountable, there is

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at least a chance with Matt Gates at the helmet

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be Trump's personal lawyers, so he would just step in

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and he just wants to do anything that Trump. He

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just follows orders from Trump. And then you have Rfk

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at the head of HHS. I mean the like I mean,

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they have a bigger budget than d O D does

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and he hates all these people. Wrote a home, you know,

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wrote a tome about these people. And I mean, do

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I think anything's gonna happen. No idea that there's a

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better chance of people being held accountable for what they've

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done now than there was. If Kamala Harris would have won,

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Kamala Harris would have won. Elon Musk would be in jail.

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Elon Musk would probably go to jail for something. They

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would take all his companies away from them. They would

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probably nationalize the nationalized Starlink, nationalized SpaceX, or give it

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to one of their buddy or give to one of

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their friends. Would probably seek to put anybody who spoke

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out against them in, you know, in jail, because they

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would have the man, they would have the mandate. There

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would be nothing, that basically the GOP would be done

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and over, there'd be no and the GOP ninety eight

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percent of the GOP is just basically on the regime side.

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room where you're where you're not worried about the you know,

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the hand of the hand of the stape coming down

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and crushing you because you know, you happen to check

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out the wrong library book at some point, or you

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bought the wrong thing off of Amazon at one point.

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I don't know how. I mean, I can understand just

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being skeptical. I could understand being well, you know, we

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got to wait and see, but being blackpilled at this point,

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disposition is. I think that nothing is going to change that.

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be one of those people who nothing, nothing's ever going

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to get better. And I'm sure there are still people

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at El Salvador who have the same kind of attitude

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of there must be something wrong with bou Kelly Man

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bu Kelly. You know, I know he's put all these

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people in jail. I know that we become the safest

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place in the Northern Hemisphere, in the Western Hemisphere, the

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safest country in the Western Hemisphere. But no, the shoe's

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gonna fall, man, Something's gonna happen. I'm sure there are

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people like that and still in l Salvador, but I

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don't know how to help them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would say I would say I'm skeptic.

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I wouldn't say blackpilled, and I don't you know, I

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don't think I'm all doom and gloom, but I just

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I like to raise questions as we go into this.

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Speaker 1: You know, what do you I mean, what do you

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think between now in January twenty do you think it'll

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be smooth? There's no wody to really know.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, from what I'm seeing so far. If

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if everything well, I mean, you have to take into

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consideration there are still people in the in the White House,

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and there are still people in the administration who you know,

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don't care if Russia nukes Ukraine and sends a nuke

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this way. I mean, they just apparently just don't seem

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to fucking care, which is why January twentieth can't come

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fast enough. That's my main worry. My main worry is

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is so absolutely insane that you know, let's you know,

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let's make it till January twentieth, and if we do

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see a nuclear volley, can you send one my way?

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Because I don't want to serve. I don't want to

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survive the first one. I don't want to be around

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for the second one coming. But that's that's all that

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where it was, and basically saying, yeah, we need to

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evil man alive, but anybody who supported him was evil.

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policy at this point until January twentieth. I don't think Trump.

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I think Trump, and all I'm going off of is history.

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but mostly what I've what I saw from Trump is

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he does not like wars. He thinks they're bad for business.

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Ukraine wrapped up as quick as possible and needs to

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be stopped. And I don't see him doing anything for

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Israel either. I think he wants so that stopped. And

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if if it is true that Elon Musk went to

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New York and spoke to the UN delegate from Iran,

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some people are saying that didn't happen. Some people are

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saying it happened. If that is true, that tells me

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that Trump wants all of this shit in the Middle East,

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you know, in the Levant to stop. And you know,

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past performance is Trump just does not want wars. That's

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important to me. Foreign policy is important to me. If

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we cannot have any wars and maybe have some you know,

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some kind of dismantling of the managerial state, whatever that

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would look like, and some of the people that he's

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appointed that looks like that's what their goals are, then

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where we can be cautiously optimistic, and I think that's

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that's not a bad thing to do. But you know,

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really the most important thing besides the wars is immigration,

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making immigration and remigration a priority. And it seems like

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there are reports that some people are already self deporting.

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some of the Haitians are like, we need to get

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out of here. While they'll just go somewhere else, they're

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not going back to Haiti. Sorry, They're just gonna go

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someplace and try to hide in the country. But as

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far as you know, we need mass deportations. And I

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anything and keep us out of wars, then you know,

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good thing. I think it would be breathing room if

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we don't have mass deportations. If we don't have you know,

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if if he starts a war, continues continues a war

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and fights it very strong, you know, very fervently, then

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for by secession movements to start, because defactoids or jujure,

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there won't be any hope if we're if we're surrounded

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by fifty to sixty million people who don't belong here,

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don't share our values, don't share our culture, and are

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just leeches on the system. You know, we have enough

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leeches on the system when it comes to natural born people.

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have all sorts of problems, we don't need additional problems.

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So yeah, I think there is there are things to

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Speaker 1: Do.

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Speaker 2: I you know, some people have mentioned, oh do they

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try to kill him again? Possibly? But what I think

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is really crazy is if you look at the he

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went to the UFC fight the other night. Yeah, people

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walking up to him and the Secret Service isn't even

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really I mean, I mean, it just it's odd. It's

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I mean, people are dancing, are doing the dance people have.

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They've made him into a folk hero almost at this point.

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And I mean the public. I mean people who would

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have never voted for him in twenty sixteen and twenty

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twenty are supporting him publicly. I mean, I just think

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there's if nothing else there's a real shift in the

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way people view the regime that has been that has

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existed for eighty to ninety years, you know, especially since

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World War Two, and especially since Nuremberg's phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: I know, no question about it. I mean, in that

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walkout in the UFC fight on Saturday, it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's we haven't I don't think we've ever

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We've never seen anything like this, I mean ever. I mean,

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this is not this is beyond Obama. You know, people,

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Obama was just a an astro turfed created person. You know,

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his mother was you know, his mother worked for the worked.

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I don't know if you worked for, but she definitely

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worked with the CIA. I don't know who the hell

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is dad is. His mom was friends with Timothy Geitner's

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mom from like early days, and everything. Obama was like

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a create It was created to created in a lab

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to be president one day. I mean, he gave the

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freaking the keynote speech with the two thousand and four convention,

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and he was I think he at the at that time,

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he was either a senator elect or he was still

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a just a Illinois senator or something like that. I mean,

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that's just that's just created, that's just propaganda. That's not

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what trump. Trump's as organic as it gets when you

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when you look at the phenomena that's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: How about the fight. How about John Johnson won the

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fight and he's doing the Trump dance and Rogan's calling

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the fight. He goes, he's doing the Trump dance. He's

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doing the Trump dance.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's these are not people, you know. John

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Jones being you know, being black, is not supposed to

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signal to that he likes Donald Trump. And there are

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people everywhere who are signaling that they like Donald Trump.

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There's a Remember when I first moved to Alabama, my

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friend Jeff Dice told me, he said, you know, if

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you go up this highway right here, there's a little

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community out here that's historically black, and if you go

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back in there, it's Trump flags everywhere. You know. And

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I'm not saying that you need to pander to the

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black boat, because I don't think that really helps. It

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historically doesn't help, especially with black women. Black men broke

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a little more for Trump this time. But you know,

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it's not off if you're on that side of the aisle.

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It's not really a demographic that you should be pandering to.

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You should be pandering to white America my opinion, not

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pandering too, but just letting white America know. I know you,

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I know your ancestors founded this place, and you know,

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we'd like to see it that way again. We'd like

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to see order here again and not be occupied by

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foreign powers like we are now. But it's just it's

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it's incredible that Trump, even from twenty sixteen, pulled people

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over to his side. It would have never went over

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to his side. I mean, let's remember, life long, lifelong democrat.

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RFK is on our RFK Junior is on his side.

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Telsea Gabbard switched parties to come over and beyond the side.

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There's a lot of people who see that change needs

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to be made, and maybe Trump isn't the person who's

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going to make the changes, but right now he's the

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symbol of that. So, I mean, I think that's a

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part of it.

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Speaker 1: So you feel, do you feel good where things are

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at or you in you're in that coustously optimistic.

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Speaker 2: I mean I have to remain I have to remain

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optimistic because it's just I spent too much of my life,

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being a negative person, being somebody who is just constantly

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expecting the worst. And you know, as you get older,

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you realize that you stay like that, it affects your health,

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It affects your mental health, your mental health, it affects

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your physical health. And I think a lot of people

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who you know are black build right now, you are

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going to look a whole lot older than me when

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they get to my age. And you know, I think

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it's I don't think there's any reason to sound an

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alarm other than the fact that we are an occupied government.

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We Americans do not control this government right now, at

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this right at this exact moment, we are not. Americans

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are not in charge. And until that gets fixed, until

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we see some kind of breathing rooms, some kind of

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even domestically, because I don't know that much is going

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to change foreign policy wise, even if a new war

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isn't started, even if he winds down or pulls people

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back from Syria, pulls people out of Africa, post troops

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out of Africa, hopefully on the domestic front, we start

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seeing a a fight back against this, uh you know,

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this this occupation that we've been we've been under since

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World War two.

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Speaker 1: How did you switch then from being quote negative? What? What?

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What changed? It? Was it one isolated event? Was it

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over time?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I just.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't know you background.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean when I was a liberal, when

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you know, when I promoted libertarians and when I had

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a libertarian podcast, and when I promoted anarchic capitalism. It's

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very black pilling people will they will try to tell

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you it isn't, but it is. You're basically your whole

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life is your whole life is saying look, I examined

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the situation and I told you so. But you never

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desire or you're precluded from by by much of the

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ideology of desiring the kind of power it would take

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to change anything. Really, twenty twenty was a turning point

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for me, and I was in a panic most of

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twenty twenty. But once I got past twenty twenty and

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I realized.

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Speaker 1: People were up to what were you in a panic

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for personally or just where the state of the world

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was both?

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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I didn't know I had I had

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a decent job at that time. You know, I worked

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for a very large corporation, multinational, and I mean I

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had that job as long as I wanted till I

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till the day I died. And but I mean I

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knew that at some point it was going to be like,

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They're going to fall for the job bullshit, and then

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I'm going to be out of this job. And what

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do I do? You know, do I have I done

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enough with my podcast up until this point that I've

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replaced my income and I'll be able to survive. Am

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I going to have health insurance? Am I going to

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get sick? Because you know, when you work for a

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huge company like that, your benefits are My benefits were

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basically on par with most of the people who work

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for the government. And yeah, it just got to the

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point where when twenty twenty one rolled around and I

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was just like, yeah, I can't be the person who

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stands around saying I told you so anymore. I'm the

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kind I have to become the kind of person who

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provides solutions for people, and it's willing to go out

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on a limb and even tell people what I think

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they should do. And also I came to the conclusion

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in twenty twenty that and this was actually very white

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pilling for me, which is would seem kind of odd

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that most people are waiting around to be told what

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to do and what to believe. And the people who

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were in charge are the ones who are willing to

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do that, the people with either people with the most

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power or the ones who are willing to tell people, well,

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this is this is what you should be doing at

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this point, and this is what you should believe. And yeah,

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I had no I have no guilts about that. I

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have no guilt about the fact that I would know

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better how to guide to protect a culture and how

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a state should be run than most people. And I know,

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I think I know better just from my reading of

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history and going back into history and really looking at

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successful successful countries, cultures, nations. I like nations because nation

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is about people really, not about government. Nation really talks

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as a nation as its people. What is the best

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way to have order, the best way to have peace,

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the best way to so that you can your family

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is safe and thrives. And once I figured out that

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people were waiting around to be told what to do,

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then you know, I just made it my goal to

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acquire as much information as possible to form an opinion

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behind you know, what's the best way to go forward?

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Considering the situation that we're in, which is, you know,

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how do a people, how do a people operate? And

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what do you do when you're occupied by a foreign

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power or a foreign ideology?

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Speaker 1: But yet you were able to remain white pilled through

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the whole Biden administration.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, no, no, I mean yeah,

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and I was it was. I mean, you have your

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times when you're like, all right, are they gonna come?

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Are they gonna come for us? Am? I should I

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be watching what I say? You know, shit, I'm using

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my real name. Yeah, you can't worry about that kind

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of stuff. You're not going to you know, And I'm

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not telling people that they should be using their real

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name and everything like that, you know. I mean, some

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people live in areas where it's just not it wouldn't

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be safe for them. Some people live in countries where

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it wouldn't be safe for them. But you know, once

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you have that all out there, and you're laying out

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and you people know who you are and they and

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you're willing to say exactly how you feel, it's quite liberating.

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It's you're not I'm not hiding anything. I there. I

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can't think of anything that I would love to say

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in public that I haven't, and yeah, it's once you

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do that, and once you yeah, once you find a

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place to live where you where you're happy, you find

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a mate that you're happy with, is really most of

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the things that you're gonna worry about happening to you

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personally will never happen. You know, when people tell me, oh,

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you know, they know the police shut up to this

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person's house and they broke down, it's like, I mean,

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that's the kind of thing that you have to say

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to justify your concern or how blackpilled you are, when

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really all you're doing is you're proving me by by

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providing me with the outlier. You know, no one's for

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the overwhelming majority of people in this country. No one's

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coming for you. You should probably be worrying more about

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the random mob, like private violence versus public violence. I'm

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not really worried about the violence of the government. Now,

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they could do something overseas that causes another country to

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attack us, and sure, but I'm not worried about anybody

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kicking my door in or anything like that. I'm more

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worried about things getting so bad that you have roving

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mobs or something like that. And you know, if you're

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close to a city, if you're in a city, and

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the closer to the city you are, the more you

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have to worry about that. So I don't really have

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anything to worry about at this point. When I talk

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about like an occupied government or I talk about something,

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this is me really like wanting to say the future

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better for the people who come after me, and you know,

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really believing in the things that I believe in that

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I hold dear enough that I'm willing to put go

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out on a limb to promote it, so that you know,

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we're supposed to, if not leave it the same, we're

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supposed to leave the world a little better, you know

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then we left it, you would hope, just by technology

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or by knowledge or something like that. I'm not saying

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that progress is a great thing. I think that when

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it comes to governments want in progress, I think that's

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probably the most dangerous thing in the history of mankind.

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But human beings, you know, wanting to come up with

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technology that moves us forward, or you know, some kind

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of some kind of knowledge, some kind of reading the

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past in a way that seeing something in the past

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that we haven't seen before that hasn't been fleshed out

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properly in being able to push that forward or some

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kind of scientific breakthrough or something like that. You know,

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that's important, and I think that the best that we

475
00:29:09,759 --> 00:29:14,559
can do is foster an environment where people can do that,

476
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,079
where cultures can do that, where groups can do that.

477
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,559
And you know, the best way I see that is,

478
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,839
you know, is getting all of this ideological influence out

479
00:29:25,839 --> 00:29:29,200
of our politics. And you know, I've always well I

480
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,559
haven't always said, but I've said, you know, come to

481
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,720
realize in the last few years that really the only

482
00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,640
thing the state should be there for is to protect culture,

483
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,720
is to make sure that no one's there to attack you.

484
00:29:41,279 --> 00:29:48,799
No one's there to physically foreign foreign enemies, domestic enemies,

485
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,880
any enemies around you, and to destroy your culture and

486
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,319
to destroy to seek to if you are people who

487
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,000
want to keep things a certain way and believe things

488
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,880
a certain way, or want to worship a certain way,

489
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,920
then you should be able to do that without having

490
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:13,160
outside influences coming in seeking to subvert that. So you know,

491
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,480
that's you know, my whole goal for the future is

492
00:30:17,519 --> 00:30:21,000
to see you know, if it's not like one state,

493
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,039
gigantic state, which I don't think it can be a

494
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:29,279
national state, at least local states and or maybe even

495
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,079
you know, states like Alabama or a that would seek

496
00:30:34,119 --> 00:30:37,559
to do that, to seek to to protect people as such.

497
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:42,359
So yeah, I don't. My optimism is in the fact

498
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:47,400
that most of the things that people are worried about happening,

499
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:50,880
I mean ninety nine point nine percent of the time,

500
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,519
they're not going to happen. You just think about shit

501
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:56,359
that you I do this all the time. I do

502
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,680
an exercise all the time. I try to remember something

503
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,359
from six months ago that I was that really worried me,

504
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:09,039
and did that come true? The thing about six weeks ago,

505
00:31:09,119 --> 00:31:11,599
there was something that you were really, really really worried

506
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,599
about and it bothered you. It might it might have

507
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,920
caused your mood, could have even caused chest pains, and

508
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:23,480
never happened. So I try not to worry about worry

509
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,279
about too much stuff. Most of the stuff that I

510
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:29,279
concentrate on is looking towards the future. I'm not worried

511
00:31:29,319 --> 00:31:31,079
about it in that I'm not worried about it in

512
00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:33,799
the now, because I know it's very hard to change

513
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,240
things in the now. You have to concentrate on what

514
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:37,880
the next generation is going to look like.

515
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,599
Speaker 1: Do you ever and do you ever this thought ever

516
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,640
crossed your mind that you know, doing what you're doing,

517
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:47,839
saying what you're saying, for you to ever go back

518
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,160
to corporate America would be very difficult if people wanted

519
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,000
to pull something you said.

520
00:31:52,839 --> 00:31:59,519
Speaker 2: Or Well, the one thing that I am very encouraged

521
00:31:59,599 --> 00:32:06,680
by is that enough people of means and enough people

522
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:10,759
of we're a very small group now people who think

523
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,240
like I, do you know a vanguard basically.

524
00:32:16,759 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: Part of that vanguard?

525
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. We've

526
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,759
never really actually talked about like what you're you know, ideologically,

527
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:28,799
what you would you like a state to look like,

528
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,039
or what the purpose of a state is, what you

529
00:32:31,079 --> 00:32:33,720
would like your ultimate proper you know, community look like.

530
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,279
When I say vanguard, I'm talking about it for a

531
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:43,000
very small group. And so what was the question.

532
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:46,119
Speaker 1: Again, I said, if you saying to some of the

533
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,920
things you said, do you think it'd be difficult for

534
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,279
you to go back to corporate America?

535
00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:55,359
Speaker 2: Well maybe corporate America, sure, But I mean I've I

536
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,079
know people who would hire me back on a second,

537
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,359
who would hire me in a second if I had

538
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:03,519
if it came to that, because we have enough people

539
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:07,119
who think like me now, who own companies now, who

540
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:13,519
have built themselves up and who don't really care what

541
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:17,720
other people say. That. Yeah, I mean, I think if

542
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,079
if I needed to get a job, I could probably

543
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,960
get you know, have a job tomorrow because I know

544
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:25,720
enough people who are who would be willing to to

545
00:33:25,799 --> 00:33:30,160
hire me. So and it's good that we're I mean,

546
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,039
we have billionaires on Twitter who are talking about like

547
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,759
Sam Francis's concept of a narcotyranny, or retweet or tweeting

548
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:44,200
the cover of Carl Schmidt's book. Anybody doesn't know Carl

549
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,640
Schmidt is considered to be the political theorist of Nazi

550
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,680
Germany that he inspired, you know, the thought of Nazi Germany.

551
00:33:54,079 --> 00:33:56,079
And we have you know, we have tech billionaires who

552
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,839
are retweeting these talking about things that you weren't allowed

553
00:33:59,839 --> 00:34:02,400
to talk about. Now, I'm not saying that they're going

554
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,920
to hire me, but if they're If you have people

555
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,920
like that, then when you have billionaires like that who

556
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,599
are doing that, other billionaires around them and people who

557
00:34:12,679 --> 00:34:15,960
want to be billionaires are looking at what information they

558
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,960
have and the way the way it's been described to me.

559
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,679
How it works in these circles is is that if

560
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:26,159
one person gets some information, it's like one of these

561
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:30,159
power brokers gets some information and the other and another

562
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:33,559
power broker hears about it. He thinks that by that

563
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,639
person having that information, he has one up on him,

564
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,000
so he wants to know what that information is. And

565
00:34:39,039 --> 00:34:43,079
then it just it's this cascade down and you have

566
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,440
all these people. So it's like if people are reading,

567
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:51,679
if if Mark Andresen is, you know, talking about showing

568
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,360
Carl Schmidt's book the Concept of the Political on Twitter,

569
00:34:57,079 --> 00:34:59,840
then other people are looking at that and going, Okay,

570
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,320
what is that? What does he know that I would

571
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,159
that I need to know that I should know because

572
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,280
if there's something there that may be causing him to

573
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,960
have a leg up on me, and these are very

574
00:35:12,199 --> 00:35:17,039
competitive people. And then you know, you can the old

575
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:20,320
there's an old libertarian concept of you know, people pursuing

576
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,039
their self interest. By people pursuing their self interest, you

577
00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:26,239
can benefit from that. If it's something that will by

578
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,440
pursuing their self interest, it's something that could benefit a

579
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,400
lot of people. So you know, I tend to look

580
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,119
at it that way, but no, I don't worry about

581
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,760
it because I know that there are enough people now

582
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,159
who think like I do, who own companies and are

583
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,679
have just gotten fearless about it. And even if they're not,

584
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,039
even if they don't openly aren't talking about these things,

585
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:52,840
they know about them, and they're pursuing, pursuing them intellectually

586
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,559
and hopefully soon seeking for them to materialize.

587
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, you know, especially after after this election,

588
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:11,480
the Deidi trans LGBTQ falls onto the same category lgbt

589
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:15,840
Q plus academy somebody else had mentioned is in a

590
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:16,480
bear market.

591
00:36:19,039 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: Mm, yeah, I mean I think we're seeing that. I mean,

592
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,280
even AOC took the pronouns out of her bio and

593
00:36:29,639 --> 00:36:34,760
told me that started started calling I think she is

594
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,480
addressing herself now instead of like congress person as congresswoman.

595
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:43,119
And I mean the other day she put out a

596
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:47,440
suite where someone was talking about special interests and she

597
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:52,320
actually named Apak. So it's like, I mean, I look

598
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,519
at an elected official who's doing that, and she could

599
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:59,599
be doing that for self interest. But the fact is

600
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:02,119
is that a lot of people who read that tweet,

601
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,840
who follow AOC may not even know who a Pack is.

602
00:37:06,679 --> 00:37:10,239
There are still people you know, we're so online and

603
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,280
we're so into politics. We know who APAC is. We

604
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,159
heard Thomas Massey on Even if you really don't. You

605
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:19,880
heard Thomas Massey talking about it on Tucker Carlson. I

606
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,960
think that's where a lot of people learn about APAC.

607
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:26,360
But when you see things like that, and then you

608
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,400
see people you know I've seen, I mean, these are

609
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:37,599
all anecdotal about h DEI, apartment departments getting getting dismantled

610
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,000
in certain in companies, and people just not taking it

611
00:37:41,039 --> 00:37:43,679
seriously anymore, and it becoming the butt of more jokes,

612
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,599
and the HR lady becoming the butt of more jokes.

613
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:51,039
When when the jokes start about it, that's when you

614
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:54,360
know that it's only it's only a matter of time,

615
00:37:54,719 --> 00:38:01,519
and the woke is not going away, but it's definitely

616
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,639
going there's there are going to be fewer and fewer

617
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:10,800
people who are going to be affected by it in

618
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,159
a professional setting, a social setting, things like that. It's

619
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:20,639
just you have Trump talking about or was it Trump

620
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:25,840
talking about, declaring that whatever gender you're assigned at birth,

621
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,239
that's your gender forever and you can never change it.

622
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,920
I mean, that's that's completely insane. It's completely insane that

623
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,119
he would do that with like the like the force

624
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:42,320
of law. But at this point in the opposite direction,

625
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,559
it's become the force of law. So why fucking not,

626
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,559
you know, I mean, if you have the force of

627
00:38:47,639 --> 00:38:52,199
law coming at you for you for misgendering somebody, maybe

628
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,599
it's going to take the force of law to turn

629
00:38:55,679 --> 00:38:58,840
that around so people don't get in trouble for it anymore.

630
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,079
So Yeah, I mean, I just don't I don't know.

631
00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:05,920
It just seems like there's this real vibe shift going

632
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,199
on and people are really real. I don't think most

633
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,840
people were ever really down with the woke stuff, and

634
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,920
I think they just shut up because they understood, even

635
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,480
if they couldn't articulate it, they understood that they were

636
00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:24,199
under a regime that would get them in trouble. And

637
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:29,719
I think that. I also think that if twenty twenty

638
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:34,079
rolled around again and had the COVID thing, Now I

639
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:38,840
don't blame there are people I'll operation warf speed and

640
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,480
stuff like that. Yeah, that's on Trump. But I also

641
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:44,559
know that if Ron Paul was president, he would have

642
00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:47,480
been talking to Health and Human Services about something possible

643
00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:50,599
to go to as far as how to treat this

644
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,920
and how to stop it too. So it's hard for

645
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,239
me to blame Trump for that completely. I think he

646
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,280
went just a little too hard on it. But I

647
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,800
mean Trump was responsible for the lockdowns. That was local.

648
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,639
I mean I lived in Georgia at the time, and

649
00:40:07,519 --> 00:40:10,960
Georgia Governor Brian Kemp didn't have lockdowns, but there were

650
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:14,480
counties that have lockdowns. I don't know that people would go.

651
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,280
I don't know even know if people would go for

652
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,840
that anymore. Maybe and I can I can hear the

653
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,039
black pillars going. But if Trump supported the lockdowns this time,

654
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,800
then all of MAGA would fall in line with it.

655
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,079
I don't know. Whenever he brings up Operation Warp Speed,

656
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:36,360
MAGA starts booing. So let's let's back up a little bit.

657
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: The uh you think Pride Months that might back off

658
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:43,000
or is that here to stay?

659
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: It was being destroyed. It was this past year. This

660
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,559
year Pride Month was already being made fun of. There

661
00:40:50,559 --> 00:40:53,079
were a bunch of a bunch of companies didn't do

662
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:55,519
their Pride stuff, didn't do that. I mean, I think

663
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:59,159
June first rolls around and it's just June first. You know.

664
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:00,800
We used to have a joke that you know, we

665
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,679
had Pride Month in Pride Month in June, and then

666
00:41:05,519 --> 00:41:08,880
you know, Sloth Month was July, because you know, you're

667
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:14,039
going through the seven Deadly Sins, but it's already started dying,

668
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,000
so I don't really look at that. I think this

669
00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:22,320
year it will be people will be trying to promote

670
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:26,760
it and they'll be getting slammed. I think people, you know,

671
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,880
it's it's already gotten to the point where left the

672
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,440
start to promote ship on Twitter, and it's just it's

673
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,920
a pileon of you know, all the woke stuff and everything.

674
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,480
It's just this pileon of people just like not that

675
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,519
we're not doing that anymore, screw you making fun of them.

676
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,559
You know, I say horrible things. What I have a

677
00:41:45,599 --> 00:41:48,079
tendency to say horrible things, you know, just for for

678
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:51,519
shock value mostly, but I mean them too. I think

679
00:41:51,559 --> 00:41:55,159
this year is going to be I wouldn't be shocked

680
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:58,719
if some of the European companies still do their whole

681
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,159
thing on Twitter where you know, you know, American BMW

682
00:42:03,199 --> 00:42:05,800
America of course BMW Saudi never gets any rate in

683
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,559
both flags, but you know BMW America guess that in

684
00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:13,039
area and they'll just get pounced They're gonna get pounced upon.

685
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:17,000
That's that's already turning. That's already turning. I don't know

686
00:42:17,039 --> 00:42:20,480
that you you see a big thing about Pride Month.

687
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,280
I think Pride Month will become one of those things

688
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:26,440
that becomes more local. San Francisco, Minneapolis, New York, and

689
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:29,960
New York City, those places will have have Pride Months.

690
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,519
But for the most part, most of America is just

691
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:34,800
gonna be like, screw you, We're not doing this anymore.

692
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,599
Speaker 1: Same with the social justice stuff too, but that's already

693
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,000
seems to be subsided.

694
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's we really don't see a lot

695
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,199
see a lot of that anymore. I mean, sure you

696
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,440
can see. I was at the American Renaissance conference this

697
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,840
past weekend. Do you know American Renaissance.

698
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,639
Speaker 1: Perfect, perfect segway. Actually I want to ask you about that.

699
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,679
So yeah, I've had.

700
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah I had a first time

701
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,679
I had a chance to have a conversation with him

702
00:43:09,079 --> 00:43:15,039
privately and just wonderful, man, brilliant. There were like ten

703
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:20,719
protesters and they were all just exactly what you would

704
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,880
think people that you would throw out, you know, the

705
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,719
kind of person will walk into your business, you throw

706
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,960
them out. You wouldn't want them in your business. I mean,

707
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:34,880
just just just just just disgenous, dysgenic freaks kind of thing.

708
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,039
There were more in years past. I mean, it's just

709
00:43:40,599 --> 00:43:44,119
what's hanging on right now is like true believers. All

710
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:48,239
the people who like were wearing it as just a

711
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,960
fashion have fallen, you know, or falling away from that,

712
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,280
and you're just gonna have some true believers. But I

713
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,559
don't think that's gonna I don't think social justice and

714
00:43:59,679 --> 00:44:02,320
as and it really sucks? Is that that term? That

715
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,920
was the term that Father Coughlin used for his magazine

716
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,679
back in the nineteen thirties. Father Coughlin, that was actually

717
00:44:09,679 --> 00:44:12,360
a right wing term at one point, social justice and

718
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,079
it got stolen. It got stolen, so just another thing

719
00:44:16,119 --> 00:44:16,760
that they steal.

720
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: How how was overall? How was the festival for the conference? Oh?

721
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,519
Speaker 2: It was good? Yeah, it was great. You know, Greg Hood,

722
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:33,039
great speech, Jared great speech. Trying to remember who who

723
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:33,960
else was there?

724
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: Diana Well who, Diana West?

725
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 2: No, no of who's the Jewish professor from Penn.

726
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:49,679
Speaker 1: Diana West.

727
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: I can't remember her name?

728
00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: Amy amyx Yeah, Diana West author I just had on

729
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,440
That's why I'm I'm looking at her book right now. Tim.

730
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:05,199
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Amy was great. I got to talk to

731
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,239
her the night before she spoke and everything, and she

732
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:12,760
was She's very very gracious. Uh. You know, her speech

733
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:20,159
was all about academia and basically race race realism and

734
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,880
for someone like her to be able to stand up

735
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,480
there and take the take the barbs that she has.

736
00:45:27,599 --> 00:45:31,360
And you know, she talks about how like she'll have

737
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,599
like maybe thirteen students in a class on on that subject,

738
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,000
and three of them will be and they want to

739
00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:40,079
be there. So you know, it's interesting that you have

740
00:45:40,159 --> 00:45:42,840
young people who want to be in a class hearing

741
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:49,840
about racism and how the differences the the scientific differences

742
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,280
between the races and things like that. Martin Selner, who

743
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,519
is an Austrian who has written a book about remigration,

744
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,440
and I mean, he's he can't even go to Germany.

745
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,039
He gets his house raided all the time, and all

746
00:46:05,079 --> 00:46:07,079
he does is talk about remigration. All he does is

747
00:46:07,079 --> 00:46:11,000
talk about immigration, and that's how bad it is over there.

748
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:16,119
And his speech was great. He talked about you know,

749
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,920
steps that you can take, how to educate people on

750
00:46:21,039 --> 00:46:24,679
it and just to be hopeful, and you know, I mean,

751
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,119
this is the guy who can't come into the United

752
00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:29,480
States even though he's married to an American, he's barred

753
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,559
from coming into the United States. He had to tell

754
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:35,800
a you know, he was in on Zoom. So I mean,

755
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:41,159
it's just it's still nuts that you have. He needs

756
00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:44,400
to clean clean that section. That part of it up. People.

757
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,079
You know, Telsea Gabbard is still on like not on

758
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:49,239
the no fly list, but they watch her. You know

759
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,239
that she has like surveillance when she flies, and now

760
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,920
she's going to be over the over the whole complex

761
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,880
that did that to her everything. So yeah, American Renaissance

762
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,119
was great. Anthony Kumia was there talking about how to

763
00:47:04,159 --> 00:47:08,199
be how to be a racist in an entertainment and everything.

764
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:11,000
That was a really funny. It was just basically him

765
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:16,000
recounting stories about about his career and how how things happened.

766
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:18,000
I got to talk to him a little bit too privately,

767
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:21,159
and yeah, so it was great. It was there was

768
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:24,440
I was scared that there would be less people there

769
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,280
this year than there was last year, and there were

770
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,719
more people there and that was that was a really

771
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,239
good sign. So yeah, I always have fun to go

772
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,519
into those because the people are the most educated, the

773
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:45,679
most calm, the most you know, put together, you know

774
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,679
that you can meet. So yeah, I enjoyed going to

775
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:49,280
things like that.

776
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: Did uh Vdeer anybody from Veder there? I think Man

777
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:55,760
was hading going there.

778
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: Ze Man was there. Yeah, we talked. We got to

779
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:00,719
talk a lot on the first night.

780
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: So he is a real person, that's what you're saying.

781
00:48:03,199 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's real. Yeah, I met him. I was

782
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:06,840
hanging out with him last year, so I knew it

783
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,719
was a real I knew it was real, But the

784
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:16,000
the Brimolos were not there. I was hoping that Peter

785
00:48:16,079 --> 00:48:18,039
and Lydia would be there, but they weren't there. So,

786
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,800
you know, a lot of talk about v there, you

787
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,400
know a lot of people and privately talking about what

788
00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:26,480
happens to them and everything, and you know, hopefully we

789
00:48:26,519 --> 00:48:29,679
can make Letitia James pay for that, you know, in

790
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:30,239
the future.

791
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've had Peter and Lydia on a

792
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,639
few times, and you know, the masses you started associating

793
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,239
lawfare with Trump, but you know, they fell victim of

794
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,960
it way way before, and it was absolutely terrible what

795
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,920
Letitia James It's has done to them.

796
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: American renaissances, fallen victims to that. A lot of people,

797
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,239
a lot of groups, a lot of a lot of

798
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,639
good people have fallen victims to that. So hopefully we

799
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:03,079
see you know, we see a change coming. You know,

800
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:08,079
we know that it's not only people on the quote

801
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:10,199
unquote right in this country, but people on the left

802
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:14,320
want to stop immigration, you know, want immigration to be controlled.

803
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:19,079
So there's no reason like Peter and Lydia Bremolo and

804
00:49:21,079 --> 00:49:25,400
you know, Martin Selner and Jared Taylor should be demonized

805
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,280
at all. You know, they just have a you know,

806
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,400
they talk about it more. They talk about it openly,

807
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,239
and they talk about it. They're not whispering about it.

808
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:42,599
You know, they talk about the realities of it. And

809
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,039
you know, they get into the science of it too.

810
00:49:45,159 --> 00:49:48,119
So that's where people if people want to trust the

811
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:50,920
science and you know, until it comes to like you know, HBD,

812
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,159
then then you're not allowed. Then they don't want to

813
00:49:55,199 --> 00:49:57,800
talk about science. Then that's not real science. But you know,

814
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,159
taking a vaccine, you know, taking a vaccine that you know,

815
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,199
most of the people who took it have gotten COVID

816
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:06,239
like three or four times since they took it. You know,

817
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:07,840
that's that's real science.

818
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:12,079
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Jared, he's still not back on acts.

819
00:50:12,199 --> 00:50:13,639
They still won't give him his account back.

820
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 2: Opinions vary as to why. I don't really want to

821
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,320
get into that. It's just I think it just.

822
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: Slipped through the cracks, right, I feel like if you knew,

823
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,400
he would just turn it back on my guess.

824
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:32,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think there are some people who've

825
00:50:32,039 --> 00:50:34,800
fallen through the cracks. I mean I think Kevin McDonald's

826
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,039
still not back on acts and people like that. So

827
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,280
I think we'll see. Yeah, let's see what happened. I've

828
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,039
been telling everybody, you know, wait until after the inauguration.

829
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,239
Let's see what happens. Let's see, you know, let's see

830
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,119
what direction this goes, and let's see how quickly things

831
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:58,719
are acted upon. I remember in twenty seventeen, on inauguration Day,

832
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:01,960
there were a bunch of executive orders that he signed

833
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,559
off on. So not only am I looking for a

834
00:51:09,639 --> 00:51:14,079
possibly some changes in policy and some really drastic changes,

835
00:51:15,199 --> 00:51:18,320
and I'm also looking for a vibe shift, a real

836
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:25,119
vibe shift into this country really getting behind you know,

837
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:28,000
a lot of what Trump, a lot of Trump's messaging. Yeah,

838
00:51:28,039 --> 00:51:30,480
I don't one hundred percent agree with all of Trump's messaging,

839
00:51:30,519 --> 00:51:34,480
you know that. I mean definitely the his his opinions

840
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:38,440
on America's greatest ally and everything like that is uh,

841
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,760
I have problems with that. But on the home front,

842
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:56,119
things could be done and hopefully they're well. I mean, yeah,

843
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,840
I think a lot of the policy has a lot

844
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,920
of the policy that our occupiers have instituted has come

845
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,719
back to bite them in the ass. So I think

846
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,039
that our occupiers are looking to do carry out some

847
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:20,760
do some things that will benefit not to benefit us,

848
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,280
to benefit them, but will indirectly benefit.

849
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: Us the country. Definitely, it definitely feels like, oh, you know,

850
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,360
Dana White was talking about this on Saturday after the fight.

851
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,519
You know how there has definitely been a weight lifted

852
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,840
since the election. Knowing that, I mean, the Democrat, how

853
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,800
do they not know it was going to turn out

854
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,039
that way for her? But I mean, would they have

855
00:52:45,079 --> 00:52:46,239
been better to go with Hillary?

856
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was Kamala Harris. Now with Hillary

857
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:58,320
have won, I don't know. You know, it's it's hard

858
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,400
to be able to look and go, Okay, did what

859
00:53:02,599 --> 00:53:07,039
happened happen so convincingly? Because it was Kamala Harris. I

860
00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:11,239
think definitely could he have beaten Hillary, like if Hillary

861
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,719
stepped in at the time Kamala did. I don't know,

862
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:19,280
It's hard to tell. I really think people just wanted

863
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:23,000
something different. I think people were sick and tired of

864
00:53:23,079 --> 00:53:27,199
being scolded, sick and tired of you know what. My

865
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:32,519
friend Jason Moranchuk, you know, talked about this just this

866
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:36,960
spirit since World War Two of the Devouring Mother, where

867
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:40,880
you say something you're you're allowed to say certain things,

868
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,719
and if you say something that's out of line, it's

869
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,880
just you get attacked, like your mom, you know, if

870
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,519
you say a dirty word around your mom, and you know,

871
00:53:49,559 --> 00:53:51,960
he says, you know, we've it seems like we're entering

872
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,000
into the age, and we have been entering into the

873
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,760
age for a little while. It doesn't happen all at

874
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,079
once of the vengeful Son, where the son is like,

875
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,559
well I'm not going to put up with this crap anymore,

876
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,000
and I'm going to fight back against it. And I

877
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,679
think that a big part of that was people just

878
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:15,639
openly advocating for Trump and being like, please come in

879
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:21,599
here and just stop this. For these what seemed like

880
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:25,639
herodins that have just been controlling us for you for

881
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:28,599
eighty years. Now, will it overturn the apple cart and

882
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:31,480
we'll have a complete vibe shift and everything? Who the

883
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:33,559
fuck knows. It's hard. It's hard to tell at this

884
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:40,239
point because too many variables, too many. You know, they've

885
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:46,400
tried to no matter, let's just accept the official narrative.

886
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,119
They've tried to kill him twice, maybe even three times.

887
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:53,400
I've heard that more attempts were were found out about

888
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:59,960
and everything. You know, let's hope that he's just basically

889
00:55:00,159 --> 00:55:02,719
has a has a bubble around him of protection that

890
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,440
until he can get in there. And I'm not saying

891
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,000
that he's I'm not saying this because he's a savior

892
00:55:08,039 --> 00:55:10,199
and he's gonna save us or anything like that. But

893
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:18,519
he definitely definitely represents the kind of I hate to

894
00:55:18,599 --> 00:55:21,400
use the word change because that's so that was a

895
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,360
word that was just absolutely destroyed during the Obama years.

896
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,360
But a shift that people, I think want to see.

897
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I couldn't believe he went to UC fight.

898
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,280
I couldn't. I can't believe he's golfing right now. They're

899
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:36,039
letting him do that.

900
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,519
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't say what say what you want.

901
00:55:41,559 --> 00:55:45,920
I don't. I haven't really looked in to see what

902
00:55:46,039 --> 00:55:49,840
his uh, what the people his secret service looks like

903
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,480
around him. If it's the same kind of lunatics, I

904
00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:58,800
would assume he would have more or he'd be able

905
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,760
to choose whoever he want one in now being president elect.

906
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:07,639
But apparently he feels like he can do this, that

907
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:13,039
he can interact with people. And yeah, because like John

908
00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:16,760
Jones could have could snap him like a toothpick if

909
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,280
he wanted to. You know, it's like they just the

910
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:22,840
fact that they let him go up there and you know,

911
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,679
you don't really see anybody, you know ready at the RAM.

912
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:29,880
I mean, he could probably snap snap someone's neck before

913
00:56:30,679 --> 00:56:35,000
you know, law enforcement could pull a gun. And yeah,

914
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,320
it's just really odd to see. It really lends itself

915
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,719
to thinking that there is a shift going on, that

916
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,800
there is, you know what the spirit of the age,

917
00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:51,599
that the spirit of the age is transforming into something else.

918
00:56:52,599 --> 00:56:56,880
And yeah, I've said that, I think the spirit of

919
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,360
the age is transforming into some kind of authority. Just

920
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,000
whether it was going to be left or right wing

921
00:57:03,079 --> 00:57:04,599
is you know, whether it's gonna be left or right

922
00:57:04,639 --> 00:57:05,440
wing is the question.

923
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 1: And we still and we don't know the answer to that,

924
00:57:09,519 --> 00:57:10,559
or you don't know the answer to that.

925
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,119
Speaker 2: No, I'd prefer right wing authoritarianism, but I'm prepared for

926
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:20,199
left wing authoritarianism too, So I was ready for whatever happens.

927
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,199
Speaker 1: Do you ever think we'll know, because it's just like

928
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:24,599
the pendulum just goes back and forth, back and forth.

929
00:57:27,079 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: The only way we're going to know is if it's

930
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:33,400
I mean, insanely obvious, but if it gets to the

931
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:39,599
point where that's what people want, where people are like, yeah,

932
00:57:39,679 --> 00:57:42,280
you know, there's no reason that I shouldn't be able

933
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,960
to go to Chicago. There's no reason that I shouldn't

934
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,440
be able to go to New York City or go

935
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:52,000
to a city without being you know, beaten, robbed, raped, killed,

936
00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:00,239
any kind of measures that are taken to make that

937
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:05,400
city safe. New York City famously went through this. You know,

938
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,840
when I was a kid grown up in New York City,

939
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,239
New York City would have twenty to twenty four hundred

940
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:18,800
murders a year. That's a lot. That is a lot.

941
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:25,000
And when I left New York City, it was it

942
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:29,199
had dropped to like sixteen hundred. But you know, not

943
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:33,760
ten years after that, basically all but disappeared. And it

944
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:39,440
was basically a couple of factors, the city becoming had

945
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:44,960
become at that point kind of hard to live in financially,

946
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:46,960
so a lot of people left, a lot of lower

947
00:58:47,119 --> 00:58:51,719
more lower income people left. But Giuliani actually cleaned that

948
00:58:51,840 --> 00:59:00,360
city up. I mean, he just no zero had in

949
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,239
frisk who When I was a libertarian, I was completely against.

950
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:08,199
It's a you know, stopping risk policy and you know,

951
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:12,960
just broken windows policing, just arresting people for anything, for

952
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:15,559
any if you broke the law, if you broke the

953
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:18,639
letter of the law, you got arrested. I remember going

954
00:59:18,679 --> 00:59:22,440
back to the city in like nineteen ninety five, nineteen

955
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:26,360
ninety six, and I hadn't been back in years, and

956
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,639
I was just walking around and I'm like, this is

957
00:59:30,719 --> 00:59:36,960
completely different. Now. There were police on every corner, maybe

958
00:59:37,039 --> 00:59:40,199
not every corner, but every other corner. And maybe that's

959
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,920
just what needs to be done. If you're going to

960
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,760
have a multicultural society and you're going to have a

961
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,639
city where seven million people are crushed in on each other,

962
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,079
and then you have all these people who come into

963
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:54,079
the city on a daily basis from outside the city,

964
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,360
and also it's a you know, just using New York

965
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,519
as an example, it's also a tourist haven. So you

966
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:04,360
may have nine ten million people crammed into this little

967
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:09,480
space at one time. Maybe you need authoritarianism. I think

968
01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:12,039
you do. I don't think you can have a multicultural

969
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:17,119
you can have a multicultural society. I don't think multicultural

970
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:21,159
societies work. But if you have a multicultural society, you're

971
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:23,360
gonna have to have the iron hand of the law.

972
01:00:23,519 --> 01:00:28,119
You know, Singapore is multicultural. It's multicultural, multi eight multi Asian,

973
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,400
but Asian. A lot of Asians don't like each other.

974
01:00:31,679 --> 01:00:33,760
A lot of Asian Asian groups don't like each other.

975
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,480
And you know, you you get caned or go to

976
01:00:38,599 --> 01:00:44,239
jail for spitting gum on the ground there. And that

977
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,159
may just be the answer to to our ills. And

978
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,800
I think if time goes by and crime and things

979
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:58,719
stay is, don't improve, people are going to be more

980
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,280
open more open to that as a as an answer.

981
01:01:02,639 --> 01:01:04,840
Seems like New York City was perfectly fine with it

982
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,119
at one point. Of course, twenty twenty reversed everything New

983
01:01:08,199 --> 01:01:11,679
York City and now it's a a hell hole again

984
01:01:11,679 --> 01:01:13,280
that I used to it up to New York City

985
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,920
two three times a year. I haven't. I haven't been

986
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:19,360
back since two thousand. It just uh, twenty twenty one,

987
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:20,599
I went up there for a couple of days to

988
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:23,880
see a debate. I haven't been back since, just because

989
01:01:24,599 --> 01:01:27,119
it's a hell hole again, Well why would why would

990
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:27,519
I want to?

991
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: Do? You see? Do you see some of those cities

992
01:01:31,519 --> 01:01:35,480
used to change that'll ripple down to places like New York,

993
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:36,400
Chicago or LA.

994
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:47,679
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it has to. I'm if it doesn't,

995
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,760
you're basically running the risk of it turning into you know,

996
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,559
some kind of dystopian dystopian nightmare, something out of a movie,

997
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:01,199
you know history. I believe his runs in cycles. I

998
01:02:01,559 --> 01:02:03,480
don't think it repeats itself, but I think it runs

999
01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:09,880
in cycles. And we've had basically almost one hundred years

1000
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:14,239
of lawlessness.

1001
01:02:12,199 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 1: Of.

1002
01:02:14,239 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: Insanity, of doing everything that the social engineers could do

1003
01:02:20,719 --> 01:02:26,679
to destroy the family, destroy people's faith, to get people

1004
01:02:26,679 --> 01:02:31,400
to stop going to church, to get people to worship

1005
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:35,119
minority groups, to put minority groups above their own above

1006
01:02:35,159 --> 01:02:42,679
their own interests, and I just don't see that lasting forever.

1007
01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:47,039
That just seems like something that has to come back

1008
01:02:47,079 --> 01:02:51,280
around at some point, and I think when you put

1009
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,599
it this way, if you start seeing cities get cleaned up,

1010
01:02:55,679 --> 01:02:59,679
that would be a great signal to know that we're

1011
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:05,039
entering a new age, kind of a new age, and

1012
01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:06,519
and it's just a matter of trying to figure out

1013
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:09,639
what the spirit of that age is, because that's how

1014
01:03:09,679 --> 01:03:13,920
you get through without being blackpilled. You have to know

1015
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,880
what the spirit of that age is. And if you

1016
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,679
can figure out what the spirit of that age is,

1017
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:22,880
and you can, you can navigate it and survive and

1018
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,199
even thrive. You don't want to just survive, you want

1019
01:03:25,199 --> 01:03:25,840
to thrive too.

1020
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,800
Speaker 1: So as we sit here, what's on tap for you

1021
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,480
for the rest of the year. And you know, as

1022
01:03:33,519 --> 01:03:36,320
we go into the inauguration, the first ninety twenty days

1023
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:37,239
of twenty five.

1024
01:03:39,719 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think that the old Glory Club

1025
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,440
that I'm trying to remember of.

1026
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,119
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me to be a part of that.

1027
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,679
Not to interrupt you, but thank you for letting me

1028
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:50,960
be a part of that a few weeks ago.

1029
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no problem at all. I think what we're

1030
01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:00,559
going to do is we're going to seek to see

1031
01:04:00,559 --> 01:04:05,800
what Trump's vision is and hold to account the people

1032
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,719
that he's appointed. To implement that vision. That would be

1033
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:17,480
obviously after he gets elected. Up until then, I'm planning

1034
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:25,840
probably concentrate on a lot of history podcasting, and I'm

1035
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,079
just gonna sit back and relax, try to do something

1036
01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:33,239
that's not so political, because when twenty when January twentieth

1037
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:36,519
rolls around, it's gonna be hard not to get political

1038
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:40,639
and talk about current events and really be diving in

1039
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:45,719
to see exactly what you what executive order is this?

1040
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,440
What are they trying to push through here? Is there

1041
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,159
gonna be a problem with this appointment? What's going to

1042
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:53,159
happen here? What are these guys doing? And everything? So

1043
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:58,760
after that, I think we're just going to concentrate on

1044
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:04,320
after inauguration, concentrate on keeping people, keeping people as accountable

1045
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:09,320
as possible. And before that, you know, I'm just going

1046
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:12,440
to enjoy the holidays, you know, Thanksgiving coming up very soon,

1047
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:17,679
gets to spend that with my wife's family. Then Christmas,

1048
01:05:17,719 --> 01:05:21,960
of course, I'm just going to enjoy myself until inauguration

1049
01:05:22,119 --> 01:05:26,880
day and hope nothing really really horrible happens, like I

1050
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:30,920
knew it gets dropped somewhere, or someone makes an attempt

1051
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:37,719
on Trump again, or yeah, hopefully life doesn't. Hopefully, you know,

1052
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:39,800
life doesn't get in the way and we're just able

1053
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,559
to have a nice calm before the storm. Because I

1054
01:05:44,599 --> 01:05:49,960
think that in January. Not to invoke any q Q language,

1055
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,280
but I think a storm is it's going to be

1056
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:56,039
like a storm on January twentieth, and that's when you're

1057
01:05:56,079 --> 01:05:58,280
going to see all hell break loose. If all hell

1058
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,559
doesn't break loose and no one's pushing back on what

1059
01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:05,880
he wants to do, I wouldn't even know what that.

1060
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:10,079
That sounds like fantasy to me. I think there's gonna

1061
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:12,320
be a lot there's gonna be a lot of fireworks

1062
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:17,280
after January twentieth when he takes that pen and starts

1063
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:21,119
putting it to the paper and they start making moves.

1064
01:06:21,559 --> 01:06:25,599
So up until then, just gonna sit back, relax read.

1065
01:06:25,679 --> 01:06:28,480
I've been reading a hell of a lot more lately,

1066
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:31,320
been finding time to sit down and read at least

1067
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,639
a chap, been reading a chapter out of a couple

1068
01:06:33,719 --> 01:06:39,679
books every day and concentrate on my sub sects. And yeah,

1069
01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:44,639
that's it. I think the I'm taking this as a

1070
01:06:44,719 --> 01:06:48,400
vacation up until January twentieth, and then when well, I'm

1071
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,320
still gonna be putting out episodes all the time and

1072
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:53,920
doing some readings. But once January twentieth throws around, I

1073
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,280
think that if you have a podcast, you're gonna have

1074
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,440
a lot to talk about. So either way, if you

1075
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,199
hate him, if if you love them, if you are skeptical,

1076
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,599
if anything, there's gonna be a hell of a lot

1077
01:07:04,679 --> 01:07:07,719
to talk about. And can't wait. I mean it can't.

1078
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,960
It's twenty honestly twenty. It can't get here quick fast

1079
01:07:11,119 --> 01:07:15,079
enough because all the crap that can happen between now

1080
01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:18,280
and then is is you know, way weighs on your

1081
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:19,039
mind a little bit.

1082
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:21,639
Speaker 1: Do you do when you say hell breaks those you

1083
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:24,239
do you mean more on the from a government level

1084
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:28,280
level or just unrest.

1085
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:32,639
Speaker 2: No, I think that you're gonna see political. I mean

1086
01:07:32,639 --> 01:07:35,639
it's gonna be political. You know, you'll start to see

1087
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:39,760
how war is politics is war by other means that

1088
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:48,159
you will the yeah, hyperbole, the everything's gonna ramp up.

1089
01:07:48,199 --> 01:07:53,239
It's just going to be if Trump does this, it's

1090
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,760
gonna you know, we'll be dead in five years. If

1091
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:59,440
Trump does this, you know, trans kids will be trans

1092
01:07:59,519 --> 01:08:02,599
kids will be rounded up into camps and everything like that.

1093
01:08:02,639 --> 01:08:07,440
It's just it's gonna be wild and entertaining, and thankfully

1094
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,440
it just provides for a lot of a lot of

1095
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,440
good content for those of us that that's what we do.

1096
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean, what's gonna happen after four years with Trump?

1097
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:19,680
I mean the phenomenon of him will be gone and

1098
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,000
no one's going to replace that.

1099
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,520
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is is that if you properly,

1100
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:31,760
properly understood, if he doesn't, if radical change is not made,

1101
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:37,640
if the administrative state is not basically I don't think

1102
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,960
it'll be completely dead. But if it's not, if it's

1103
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,479
not weakened to the point where like you see the

1104
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,319
woke weakened right now and things like that, then yeah,

1105
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,960
sure we have there is a chance that in four

1106
01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:55,920
years things could start regressing back to you know where

1107
01:08:56,119 --> 01:08:58,159
where we have been over the last four years or

1108
01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:03,520
the last eighty years. And that's taking into account that

1109
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,399
a lot is going to change. I mean I don't

1110
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:07,039
even know that yet.

1111
01:09:07,119 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: I meant just a phenomenon of him, because this will

1112
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,840
be his last run. Just the idea of the derangement

1113
01:09:15,119 --> 01:09:18,079
syndrome on, you know, people hating him or loving him.

1114
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,039
You know, there's no politician. I don't think I'll ever

1115
01:09:21,039 --> 01:09:23,479
see again in my lifetime that's had that kind of impact.

1116
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,760
And this this is all start of the last run.

1117
01:09:27,039 --> 01:09:30,079
Speaker 2: Well, I think that this is also the could be

1118
01:09:30,119 --> 01:09:32,960
the nail on the coffin of the politician. Not that

1119
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:36,159
there won't be politicians, but there will be, but it

1120
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:40,039
will be I think you're going to see more of

1121
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:47,840
a concentration on private industry. You know, Musk Musk is

1122
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:52,880
basically taken over space, taken over space travel. I think

1123
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,960
you're going to see a lot more of private industry

1124
01:09:56,039 --> 01:10:02,479
being look to as the government used to be looked to.

1125
01:10:03,279 --> 01:10:06,760
I think you're going to see politicians going to become

1126
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:14,279
figureheads even more than they do now. But yep, one

1127
01:10:14,319 --> 01:10:17,399
thing that has to be taken into consideration, and you know,

1128
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,479
bring this all the way back to now, is we're

1129
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:28,079
still under occupation. And in four years, I'll say it

1130
01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:29,960
right now, we're still going to be under occupation by

1131
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:40,279
the same power. Their power may be weakened. But you know,

1132
01:10:40,319 --> 01:10:46,680
the question is what does that look like with If

1133
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,359
Trump is the death of the you know, the politician,

1134
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:56,399
the the celebrity politician, if people just want to go

1135
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,920
back to, oh, you know, politicians should look like this

1136
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:02,960
to look like that, and they should be. I want

1137
01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:05,880
us to go back to the statesman, where where you

1138
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:10,640
would have a statesman who's more you know, classic like

1139
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:16,920
George H. W. Bush was still a statesman, he was

1140
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:25,600
still respectable. Nixon was respectable. Yeah, back to politicians who

1141
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:29,359
understand their role, who understand what they're supposed to represent.

1142
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:32,640
And I think there's a chance we can go we

1143
01:11:32,680 --> 01:11:35,000
can go back to that. But then, you know, you

1144
01:11:35,039 --> 01:11:37,199
always have the cloud hanging over your head of are

1145
01:11:37,239 --> 01:11:40,319
you still occupied? And if we're still occupied by a

1146
01:11:40,359 --> 01:11:46,399
foreign power and we are not America, then still going

1147
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:48,640
to be a whole hell of a lot of work

1148
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:53,239
to do, you know. And that's why another thing for

1149
01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:55,560
the Old Glory Club. One of the the goal of

1150
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,880
the Old Glory Club is to raise up our future elites,

1151
01:11:59,039 --> 01:12:01,239
the kind of people who would step into positions like

1152
01:12:01,319 --> 01:12:05,199
this and who you know, when you hear the term

1153
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:10,159
America first, are really America first? They all they care

1154
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:13,319
about is America. They don't care about our greatest ally

1155
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:20,319
or are our allies are those alliances are not entangling

1156
01:12:21,039 --> 01:12:24,399
as we were supposed to have from the beginning, So

1157
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:30,000
still work to you, nothing's going to nothing is going

1158
01:12:30,039 --> 01:12:35,920
to be perfect. Nothing is ever perfect. There is no perfect.

1159
01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:41,079
There will always be you will always have things that

1160
01:12:41,119 --> 01:12:43,880
need to be worked on. Until you have a government

1161
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,640
that genuinely is there to serve the people, is there

1162
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:53,079
to protect the people and to protect their identity, their culture,

1163
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:59,319
their language, their relationships with each other. That nothing can

1164
01:13:00,119 --> 01:13:04,119
break that, that, nothing would disrupt that, nothing would subvert that.

1165
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:08,159
So yeah, still a lot of work, still tons of

1166
01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:10,920
work to do. Anyone who thinks that Trump is going

1167
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,359
to solve all our problems, I don't even really know

1168
01:13:13,399 --> 01:13:16,720
that that person exists. I think that there's a those

1169
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,439
are straw that's like a real straw man. Maybe there

1170
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,680
are some boomers out there who are still holding on

1171
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,720
to the one person can change us all and everything.

1172
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,319
I don't think that's Trump. I think Trump is the

1173
01:13:29,399 --> 01:13:33,680
kind of person who points towards that, But I don't

1174
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:38,079
think it's Trump. And I'm not disrespecting the man, you know.

1175
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,399
I think he's genuinely a good man. I honestly do.

1176
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,520
I think he's a good man. But I don't think

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he's the I don't. He's a former Democrat from Queens. Yeah,

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he's he's a demo He's a New York City Democrat.

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He's liberalism is the ideology of death. And that's what

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basically we still are. We still are even most the majority,

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the overwhelming majority of right wingers in this country are

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just liberals. You know. They believe in the Civil Rights Act.

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They believe, oh, we just need to you know. It's

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like somebody I had in DMS the other day who

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was defending conservatism, and I said, well, why conservatism is

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a left of ideology? Why would I why would I

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want to defend conservatism? He's like, how is it a

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left to ideology? I said, define conservatism and he said, well,

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seeking to return and protect the values of the founding

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fathers of America. I mean oh, I said, oh, so

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you mean white male European rule, white male landowners are

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the only ones that can vote. And yeah, let's start

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with that. Name me a conservative that's defending that. Name

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me a conservative who isn't a Civil Rights Act American

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they've taken you know, I've had I've had Greg Hood

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on the show a couple of years ago, and we

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talked about how the Civil Rights Act basically replaced the Constitution.

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The Constitution was for a certain kind of person, and

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those are the people that, for the last eighty years

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were most under attack in this country, White male Europeans, Protestants,

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mostly overwhelming majority Protestant. So that's what America. If you're

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looking to go back to America, you're looking to go

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back to white Anglo Saxon Protestant America. If you're looking

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for anything else, you're looking at the Civil Rights Act

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of nineteen sixty four, which says that you don't have

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the right to discriminate. Or you're looking at Shelley v. Kramer.

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I think it's from nineteen forty seven or nineteen forty

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eight that basically said you cannot have, you can't have

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you can't restrict people from your neighborhood. Or you're looking

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at Brown versus Board of Education, which nineteen gives you

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integration in the schools in nineteen fifty four, and then

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just twelve years later you have New York City teachers

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being set on fire and teachers being raped in their classrooms.

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I already mentioned multi multiculturalism, right, how's that worked out?

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Didn't have these didn't have these problems. And you can

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look at like when Bernie Sanders talks about you should

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need to be more like Sweden. And he's talking about

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Sweden before they flooded it with maniac lunatics from the

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Middle East and Africa. Well, what was he talking about.

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He was talking about a white Northern European country, high

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trust society where they didn't look at each where if

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somebody needed welfare or something like that, they didn't look

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at each other. Like you know, you're stealing something from me.

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Why because probably most of them are seventh you know,

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seven cousins related. Yeah, is that ever going to be

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America again? With the hell knows? But if you want America,

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if you want the American founding ideals, I just gave

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them to you. Anything else is from the nineteen sixties.

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And if you prefer the nineteen sixties over the seventeen sixties, okay.

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Speaker 1: I take the seventeen sixties. If the option is being

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presented to me right.

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Speaker 2: Now, me too, Me too. Like my oldest my oldest

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relative on my mother's side has only been here since

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like the eighteen early eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 1: But you.

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Speaker 2: Fought the war on the wrong side. I fought the war,

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So you know I have a little bit of skin

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in this game. I'm not from founding stock, but very

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soon thereafter.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find you?

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01:18:40,119 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 2: Pete The Pete Canona Show on all podcatchers, Pete substack

1242
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:51,239
dot com, and the Old Glory Club. But we stream

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01:18:51,359 --> 01:18:57,560
live on YouTube every every Thursday night at eight pm sharp,

1244
01:18:58,039 --> 01:19:02,159
eight pm sharp. We're never late eight pm. I hope

1245
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:05,279
you hear the sarcasm in that, But come check us out.

1246
01:19:05,319 --> 01:19:07,239
I think we do. We do a really good job

1247
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of covering the news and having some laughs as well.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I could vouch I was. I was part

1249
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,199
of it a few weeks ago, and I encourage everybody

1250
01:19:15,239 --> 01:19:17,479
to not only check out Pete Show, read a substack,

1251
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,399
but also check into Old Gloys Club every eight o'clock

1252
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:23,680
Central time, nine o'clock eastern, right, nine o'clock eastern.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at eight o'clock eastern, eight o'clock eastern for this

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for the live stream. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Because I was on the East coast when I when

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I recorded with you guys, because i was all screwed

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up with the time change because I'm in Arizona now

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now ironically I'm on mountain time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Arizona is only one of two states that

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doesn't turn the clock back or it doesn't adjust for

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for daylight saving time. Yeah, what's the other state Hawaii?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. I think there's parts of Indiana,

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or I thought there was. I think there. I think

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there's parts of Texas at Is Mountain. I think there's

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parts of Indian end of the Central Memory Survey. I

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could be wrong about that.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Alabama's all Central. So this is the first

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It's the second time in my life I've lived in

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Central but the first time it was only for a

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few months. So I always lived on the always lived

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in the East Coast. Separate times I lived overseas.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I was in La one weekend a long

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time ago, in November, and it happened to be the

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weekend the clocks were changing, so I had the extra

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hour to sleep in in the morning and then flew

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right back and gave the hour back later on that day.

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Speaker 2: It's always funny how that happens.

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Speaker 1: Pete as always man, great conversation. I look forward, look

1279
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,359
forward to more ahead. Happy Thanksgiving, and uh look forward

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to continue to follow your work.

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Michael, Thank you, my drop