Speaker 1: All right, Pete. So we're talking about black pilled and somebody.
I don't want to give credit to somebody writing on
X because I know take it for whatever it is.
It was, you know, a small account saying you know
how you're doom, doom and gloom before the election, and
you still are doom and gloom. Uh, you know with
conversations I've had. So you know, let's just pick up
where we left off. You asked me a.
Speaker 2: Question, Yeah, I said, I mean, is that what you're
is that what you're selling or is that actually just
who you are? Because I actually believe that there are
people out there who are black pilled. And I'm not
talking about my friend Devin Stack here, whose name who
the name of his podcast is black Pilled. I'm talking
about there are people out there selling black pills who
when somebody tries to confront them on it and say, well,
is there anything to be hopeful for, they won't answer.
And what that tells me is is that their whole
business model is black pilled, and they're selling black pills
and there's and they're not willing to give any hope
because somehow, if they said something positive, all the people
who are watching them and supporting them may leave you know,
may may be like, oh well no, no, everything's everything's
falling apart everything. There's no hope in every I come
to you to reinforce my belief that there is no
hope for anything. And if if you know, if a
person were to say, well, you know, we could possibly
be doing this and this could stave it off, or
this could be they never give an answer. I'm thinking
to one person in particular, who doesn't even live in
the United States, as an American who doesn't live in
the United States.
Speaker 1: So so I you know, it's I've never had that
question posed to me, and I don't. I don't, I don't.
I mean, I don't know what exactly I'm selling. I
just go by what I feel. And so I try.
I I I look at myself, and you know, you
disagree with me, might disagree with me, but I try
to be objective. And maybe it's not as much blackpilled
as I, you know, of being a skeptic and all
a man. And I've said this a million times on here.
I mean, the election didn't go the way I thought
it would. I thought they would install her. I was wrong,
you were right, you called it. You said it'd be
very early in the evening on Tuesday. You and I
actually haven't spoken since then. I don't think right. Yeah,
and you you.
Speaker 2: Were right right before the election, and now we're now
it's actually the election.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you said, I don't think it's gonna be
it's gonna be early into Tuesday evening or whatever. It'd
be pretty early. It was. It wasn't gonna be dragged
out days. And yeah, I thought they would install her,
and so it didn't. It didn't play out the way
I thought it did. But you know, so I wouldn't
say I'm blackpilled right now. But I'm also skeptical because
I feel like this justice that we've been called for,
of accountability, I just haven't seen it in the last
five years. You know, when you look at you know,
the Cyberndinja audit, the Durham Report, I'm sure I'm missing
something in between, Fauci. None of this stuff has come
to flourish where people have been, you know, any charges.
Speaker 2: So how would there be how do you expect people
to be held accountable when their their friends are the
ones in power. I mean, the last you said, the
last five years specifically. Okay, so the last year of
Trump's of Trump's presidency is just this wash of everything
from you know, the the COVID and the the Floyd riots,
and then the election and then you know, capping it
off with Jen six and everything. So I mean, that's
that's just like a lost year of insanity. But I
mean under Joe Biden, I mean Joe Biden literally went
on TV and said that thirty percent of the country
was semi fascist and that they were based and they
were the enemy. So how would you expect anybody within
the regime, within this managerial state that has been in
power for over eighty years, which is a monolith which
just keeps going no matter what president is in charge.
And now you have someone who I don't know that
so much said. He is saying that he's going to
take these people down, but he has people around him,
unlike in twenty sixteen who are saying, look, I know
how to do this, I know how to hold people accountable.
I mean, these people are fucking scared of Matt Gates.
Matt Gates when you watch interviews with him, somebody, I'm
convinced somebody told Matt Gates where all the bodies are
buried because when he talks about what's wrong and what's
going on, and then of course you know they're some
Jewish businessman who's who's facing thirty three counts, has been
sentenced to eleven years, has impersonated a police officer, has
stolen people's in when he works for when he worked
for the time, when he worked for the Department of Revenue,
has been been accused of human trafficking. This is your
This is the person who is the main quote unquote
witness against Matt Gates in a supposedly seventeen some supposedly
seventeen year old girl thing. I mean, I don't know
that anything's going to happen, but you have a better
chance of things happening people being held accountable now than
you did when the first time Trump got elected, who
had no appointments at all. I mean, the appointments were
absolutely insane. And now he's bringing in a bunch of loyalists,
a bunch of outsiders, a bunch of people who I
don't really some of them I don't like it. All
I think are fucking terrible. But the main thing is
if you want to see people held accountable, there is
at least a chance with Matt Gates at the helmet
AG and the deputy ag is Trump's personal lawyer would
be Trump's personal lawyers, so he would just step in
and he just wants to do anything that Trump. He
just follows orders from Trump. And then you have Rfk
at the head of HHS. I mean the like I mean,
they have a bigger budget than d O D does
and he hates all these people. Wrote a home, you know,
wrote a tome about these people. And I mean, do
I think anything's gonna happen. No idea that there's a
better chance of people being held accountable for what they've
done now than there was. If Kamala Harris would have won,
Kamala Harris would have won. Elon Musk would be in jail.
Elon Musk would probably go to jail for something. They
would take all his companies away from them. They would
probably nationalize the nationalized Starlink, nationalized SpaceX, or give it
to one of their buddy or give to one of
their friends. Would probably seek to put anybody who spoke
out against them in, you know, in jail, because they
would have the man, they would have the mandate. There
would be nothing, that basically the GOP would be done
and over, there'd be no and the GOP ninety eight
percent of the GOP is just basically on the regime side.
So I mean, if anything is four years of breathing
room where you're where you're not worried about the you know,
the hand of the hand of the stape coming down
and crushing you because you know, you happen to check
out the wrong library book at some point, or you
bought the wrong thing off of Amazon at one point.
I don't know how. I mean, I can understand just
being skeptical. I could understand being well, you know, we
got to wait and see, but being blackpilled at this point,
I mean, I just then, I think that's what your
disposition is. I think that nothing is going to change that.
I mean, I just don't see, You're just going to
be one of those people who nothing, nothing's ever going
to get better. And I'm sure there are still people
at El Salvador who have the same kind of attitude
of there must be something wrong with bou Kelly Man
bu Kelly. You know, I know he's put all these
people in jail. I know that we become the safest
place in the Northern Hemisphere, in the Western Hemisphere, the
safest country in the Western Hemisphere. But no, the shoe's
gonna fall, man, Something's gonna happen. I'm sure there are
people like that and still in l Salvador, but I
don't know how to help them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I would say I would say I'm skeptic.
I wouldn't say blackpilled, and I don't you know, I
don't think I'm all doom and gloom, but I just
I like to raise questions as we go into this.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: You know, what do you I mean, what do you
think between now in January twenty do you think it'll
be smooth? There's no wody to really know.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, from what I'm seeing so far. If
if everything well, I mean, you have to take into
consideration there are still people in the in the White House,
and there are still people in the administration who you know,
don't care if Russia nukes Ukraine and sends a nuke
this way. I mean, they just apparently just don't seem
to fucking care, which is why January twentieth can't come
fast enough. That's my main worry. My main worry is
is that we have a foreign policy right now that
is so absolutely insane that you know, let's you know,
let's make it till January twentieth, and if we do
see a nuclear volley, can you send one my way?
Because I don't want to serve. I don't want to
survive the first one. I don't want to be around
for the second one coming. But that's that's all that
I see right now. I don't see this whole. You know,
you have Mika Verrzinski and Joe Scarborough going to mar
A Lago or wherever they met him, I don't know
where it was, and basically saying, yeah, we need to
have a I mean, these are these are people who
were just basically saying, not only was he the most
evil man alive, but anybody who supported him was evil.
And so you see all these people backing down. You know,
I'm what I'm most worry about is is the foreign
policy at this point until January twentieth. I don't think Trump.
I think Trump, and all I'm going off of is history.
All I'm going off of is past performance, and it's
I know, it's no guarantee of future a future outcome,
but mostly what I've what I saw from Trump is
he does not like wars. He thinks they're bad for business.
And I think he wants the Ukraine this thing in
Ukraine wrapped up as quick as possible and needs to
be stopped. And I don't see him doing anything for
Israel either. I think he wants so that stopped. And
if if it is true that Elon Musk went to
New York and spoke to the UN delegate from Iran,
some people are saying that didn't happen. Some people are
saying it happened. If that is true, that tells me
that Trump wants all of this shit in the Middle East,
you know, in the Levant to stop. And you know,
I don't. The one thing that I do know from
past performance is Trump just does not want wars. That's
important to me. Foreign policy is important to me. If
we cannot have any wars and maybe have some you know,
some kind of dismantling of the managerial state, whatever that
would look like, and some of the people that he's
appointed that looks like that's what their goals are, then
I think we you know, we only have you know,
where we can be cautiously optimistic, and I think that's
that's not a bad thing to do. But you know,
really the most important thing besides the wars is immigration,
and from everything I'm seeing, it looks like he is
making immigration and remigration a priority. And it seems like
there are reports that some people are already self deporting.
Some people are worried. I heard out of Springfield that
some of the Haitians are like, we need to get
out of here. While they'll just go somewhere else, they're
not going back to Haiti. Sorry, They're just gonna go
someplace and try to hide in the country. But as
far as you know, we need mass deportations. And I
think that's the one thing that if he could do
anything and keep us out of wars, then you know,
I mean, I think that it would just be a
good thing. I think it would be breathing room if
we don't have mass deportations. If we don't have you know,
if if he starts a war, continues continues a war
and fights it very strong, you know, very fervently, then
I mean, I really, then we just have to hope
for by secession movements to start, because defactoids or jujure,
we just that's what we're going to need, because then
there won't be any hope if we're if we're surrounded
by fifty to sixty million people who don't belong here,
don't share our values, don't share our culture, and are
just leeches on the system. You know, we have enough
leeches on the system when it comes to natural born people.
We don't need. We don't need these people from the outside.
Especially we have crime. We don't need additional crime. We
have all sorts of problems, we don't need additional problems.
So yeah, I think there is there are things to
look forward to.
Speaker 1: Do.
Speaker 2: I you know, some people have mentioned, oh do they
try to kill him again? Possibly? But what I think
is really crazy is if you look at the he
went to the UFC fight the other night. Yeah, people
walking up to him and the Secret Service isn't even
really I mean, I mean, it just it's odd. It's
I mean, people are dancing, are doing the dance people have.
They've made him into a folk hero almost at this point.
And I mean the public. I mean people who would
have never voted for him in twenty sixteen and twenty
twenty are supporting him publicly. I mean, I just think
there's if nothing else there's a real shift in the
way people view the regime that has been that has
existed for eighty to ninety years, you know, especially since
World War Two, and especially since Nuremberg's phenomenon.
Speaker 1: I know, no question about it. I mean, in that
walkout in the UFC fight on Saturday, it was unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's we haven't I don't think we've ever
We've never seen anything like this, I mean ever. I mean,
this is not this is beyond Obama. You know, people,
Obama was just a an astro turfed created person. You know,
his mother was you know, his mother worked for the worked.
I don't know if you worked for, but she definitely
worked with the CIA. I don't know who the hell
is dad is. His mom was friends with Timothy Geitner's
mom from like early days, and everything. Obama was like
a create It was created to created in a lab
to be president one day. I mean, he gave the
freaking the keynote speech with the two thousand and four convention,
and he was I think he at the at that time,
he was either a senator elect or he was still
a just a Illinois senator or something like that. I mean,
that's just that's just created, that's just propaganda. That's not
what trump. Trump's as organic as it gets when you
when you look at the phenomena that's happening right now.
Speaker 1: How about the fight. How about John Johnson won the
fight and he's doing the Trump dance and Rogan's calling
the fight. He goes, he's doing the Trump dance. He's
doing the Trump dance.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's these are not people, you know. John
Jones being you know, being black, is not supposed to
signal to that he likes Donald Trump. And there are
people everywhere who are signaling that they like Donald Trump.
There's a Remember when I first moved to Alabama, my
friend Jeff Dice told me, he said, you know, if
you go up this highway right here, there's a little
community out here that's historically black, and if you go
back in there, it's Trump flags everywhere. You know. And
I'm not saying that you need to pander to the
black boat, because I don't think that really helps. It
historically doesn't help, especially with black women. Black men broke
a little more for Trump this time. But you know,
it's not off if you're on that side of the aisle.
It's not really a demographic that you should be pandering to.
You should be pandering to white America my opinion, not
pandering too, but just letting white America know. I know you,
I know your ancestors founded this place, and you know,
we'd like to see it that way again. We'd like
to see order here again and not be occupied by
foreign powers like we are now. But it's just it's
it's incredible that Trump, even from twenty sixteen, pulled people
over to his side. It would have never went over
to his side. I mean, let's remember, life long, lifelong democrat.
RFK is on our RFK Junior is on his side.
Telsea Gabbard switched parties to come over and beyond the side.
There's a lot of people who see that change needs
to be made, and maybe Trump isn't the person who's
going to make the changes, but right now he's the
symbol of that. So, I mean, I think that's a
part of it.
Speaker 1: So you feel, do you feel good where things are
at or you in you're in that coustously optimistic.
Speaker 2: I mean I have to remain I have to remain
optimistic because it's just I spent too much of my life,
being a negative person, being somebody who is just constantly
expecting the worst. And you know, as you get older,
you realize that you stay like that, it affects your health,
It affects your mental health, your mental health, it affects
your physical health. And I think a lot of people
who you know are black build right now, you are
going to look a whole lot older than me when
they get to my age. And you know, I think
it's I don't think there's any reason to sound an
alarm other than the fact that we are an occupied government.
We Americans do not control this government right now, at
this right at this exact moment, we are not. Americans
are not in charge. And until that gets fixed, until
we see some kind of breathing rooms, some kind of
even domestically, because I don't know that much is going
to change foreign policy wise, even if a new war
isn't started, even if he winds down or pulls people
back from Syria, pulls people out of Africa, post troops
out of Africa, hopefully on the domestic front, we start
seeing a a fight back against this, uh you know,
this this occupation that we've been we've been under since
World War two.
Speaker 1: How did you switch then from being quote negative? What? What?
What changed? It? Was it one isolated event? Was it
over time?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just.
Speaker 1: So I didn't know you background.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean when I was a liberal, when
you know, when I promoted libertarians and when I had
a libertarian podcast, and when I promoted anarchic capitalism. It's
very black pilling people will they will try to tell
you it isn't, but it is. You're basically your whole
life is your whole life is saying look, I examined
the situation and I told you so. But you never
desire or you're precluded from by by much of the
ideology of desiring the kind of power it would take
to change anything. Really, twenty twenty was a turning point
for me, and I was in a panic most of
twenty twenty. But once I got past twenty twenty and
I realized.
Speaker 1: People were up to what were you in a panic
for personally or just where the state of the world
was both?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I didn't know I had I had
a decent job at that time. You know, I worked
for a very large corporation, multinational, and I mean I
had that job as long as I wanted till I
till the day I died. And but I mean I
knew that at some point it was going to be like,
They're going to fall for the job bullshit, and then
I'm going to be out of this job. And what
do I do? You know, do I have I done
enough with my podcast up until this point that I've
replaced my income and I'll be able to survive. Am
I going to have health insurance? Am I going to
get sick? Because you know, when you work for a
huge company like that, your benefits are My benefits were
basically on par with most of the people who work
for the government. And yeah, it just got to the
point where when twenty twenty one rolled around and I
was just like, yeah, I can't be the person who
stands around saying I told you so anymore. I'm the
kind I have to become the kind of person who
provides solutions for people, and it's willing to go out
on a limb and even tell people what I think
they should do. And also I came to the conclusion
in twenty twenty that and this was actually very white
pilling for me, which is would seem kind of odd
that most people are waiting around to be told what
to do and what to believe. And the people who
were in charge are the ones who are willing to
do that, the people with either people with the most
power or the ones who are willing to tell people, well,
this is this is what you should be doing at
this point, and this is what you should believe. And yeah,
I had no I have no guilts about that. I
have no guilt about the fact that I would know
better how to guide to protect a culture and how
a state should be run than most people. And I know,
I think I know better just from my reading of
history and going back into history and really looking at
successful successful countries, cultures, nations. I like nations because nation
is about people really, not about government. Nation really talks
as a nation as its people. What is the best
way to have order, the best way to have peace,
the best way to so that you can your family
is safe and thrives. And once I figured out that
people were waiting around to be told what to do,
then you know, I just made it my goal to
acquire as much information as possible to form an opinion
behind you know, what's the best way to go forward?
Considering the situation that we're in, which is, you know,
how do a people, how do a people operate? And
what do you do when you're occupied by a foreign
power or a foreign ideology?
Speaker 1: But yet you were able to remain white pilled through
the whole Biden administration.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean yeah, no, no, I mean yeah,
and I was it was. I mean, you have your
times when you're like, all right, are they gonna come?
Are they gonna come for us? Am? I should I
be watching what I say? You know, shit, I'm using
my real name. Yeah, you can't worry about that kind
of stuff. You're not going to you know, And I'm
not telling people that they should be using their real
name and everything like that, you know. I mean, some
people live in areas where it's just not it wouldn't
be safe for them. Some people live in countries where
it wouldn't be safe for them. But you know, once
you have that all out there, and you're laying out
and you people know who you are and they and
you're willing to say exactly how you feel, it's quite liberating.
It's you're not I'm not hiding anything. I there. I
can't think of anything that I would love to say
in public that I haven't, and yeah, it's once you
do that, and once you yeah, once you find a
place to live where you where you're happy, you find
a mate that you're happy with, is really most of
the things that you're gonna worry about happening to you
personally will never happen. You know, when people tell me, oh,
you know, they know the police shut up to this
person's house and they broke down, it's like, I mean,
that's the kind of thing that you have to say
to justify your concern or how blackpilled you are, when
really all you're doing is you're proving me by by
providing me with the outlier. You know, no one's for
the overwhelming majority of people in this country. No one's
coming for you. You should probably be worrying more about
the random mob, like private violence versus public violence. I'm
not really worried about the violence of the government. Now,
they could do something overseas that causes another country to
attack us, and sure, but I'm not worried about anybody
kicking my door in or anything like that. I'm more
worried about things getting so bad that you have roving
mobs or something like that. And you know, if you're
close to a city, if you're in a city, and
the closer to the city you are, the more you
have to worry about that. So I don't really have
anything to worry about at this point. When I talk
about like an occupied government or I talk about something,
this is me really like wanting to say the future
better for the people who come after me, and you know,
really believing in the things that I believe in that
I hold dear enough that I'm willing to put go
out on a limb to promote it, so that you know,
we're supposed to, if not leave it the same, we're
supposed to leave the world a little better, you know
then we left it, you would hope, just by technology
or by knowledge or something like that. I'm not saying
that progress is a great thing. I think that when
it comes to governments want in progress, I think that's
probably the most dangerous thing in the history of mankind.
But human beings, you know, wanting to come up with
technology that moves us forward, or you know, some kind
of some kind of knowledge, some kind of reading the
past in a way that seeing something in the past
that we haven't seen before that hasn't been fleshed out
properly in being able to push that forward or some
kind of scientific breakthrough or something like that. You know,
that's important, and I think that the best that we
can do is foster an environment where people can do that,
where cultures can do that, where groups can do that.
And you know, the best way I see that is,
you know, is getting all of this ideological influence out
of our politics. And you know, I've always well I
haven't always said, but I've said, you know, come to
realize in the last few years that really the only
thing the state should be there for is to protect culture,
is to make sure that no one's there to attack you.
No one's there to physically foreign foreign enemies, domestic enemies,
any enemies around you, and to destroy your culture and
to destroy to seek to if you are people who
want to keep things a certain way and believe things
a certain way, or want to worship a certain way,
then you should be able to do that without having
outside influences coming in seeking to subvert that. So you know,
that's you know, my whole goal for the future is
to see you know, if it's not like one state,
gigantic state, which I don't think it can be a
national state, at least local states and or maybe even
you know, states like Alabama or a that would seek
to do that, to seek to to protect people as such.
So yeah, I don't. My optimism is in the fact
that most of the things that people are worried about happening,
I mean ninety nine point nine percent of the time,
they're not going to happen. You just think about shit
that you I do this all the time. I do
an exercise all the time. I try to remember something
from six months ago that I was that really worried me,
and did that come true? The thing about six weeks ago,
there was something that you were really, really really worried
about and it bothered you. It might it might have
caused your mood, could have even caused chest pains, and
never happened. So I try not to worry about worry
about too much stuff. Most of the stuff that I
concentrate on is looking towards the future. I'm not worried
about it in that I'm not worried about it in
the now, because I know it's very hard to change
things in the now. You have to concentrate on what
the next generation is going to look like.
Speaker 1: Do you ever and do you ever this thought ever
crossed your mind that you know, doing what you're doing,
saying what you're saying, for you to ever go back
to corporate America would be very difficult if people wanted
to pull something you said.
Speaker 2: Or Well, the one thing that I am very encouraged
by is that enough people of means and enough people
of we're a very small group now people who think
like I, do you know a vanguard basically.
Speaker 1: Part of that vanguard?
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. We've
never really actually talked about like what you're you know, ideologically,
what you would you like a state to look like,
or what the purpose of a state is, what you
would like your ultimate proper you know, community look like.
When I say vanguard, I'm talking about it for a
very small group. And so what was the question.
Speaker 1: Again, I said, if you saying to some of the
things you said, do you think it'd be difficult for
you to go back to corporate America?
Speaker 2: Well maybe corporate America, sure, But I mean I've I
know people who would hire me back on a second,
who would hire me in a second if I had
if it came to that, because we have enough people
who think like me now, who own companies now, who
have built themselves up and who don't really care what
other people say. That. Yeah, I mean, I think if
if I needed to get a job, I could probably
get you know, have a job tomorrow because I know
enough people who are who would be willing to to
hire me. So and it's good that we're I mean,
we have billionaires on Twitter who are talking about like
Sam Francis's concept of a narcotyranny, or retweet or tweeting
the cover of Carl Schmidt's book. Anybody doesn't know Carl
Schmidt is considered to be the political theorist of Nazi
Germany that he inspired, you know, the thought of Nazi Germany.
And we have you know, we have tech billionaires who
are retweeting these talking about things that you weren't allowed
to talk about. Now, I'm not saying that they're going
to hire me, but if they're If you have people
like that, then when you have billionaires like that who
are doing that, other billionaires around them and people who
want to be billionaires are looking at what information they
have and the way the way it's been described to me.
How it works in these circles is is that if
one person gets some information, it's like one of these
power brokers gets some information and the other and another
power broker hears about it. He thinks that by that
person having that information, he has one up on him,
so he wants to know what that information is. And
then it just it's this cascade down and you have
all these people. So it's like if people are reading,
if if Mark Andresen is, you know, talking about showing
Carl Schmidt's book the Concept of the Political on Twitter,
then other people are looking at that and going, Okay,
what is that? What does he know that I would
that I need to know that I should know because
if there's something there that may be causing him to
have a leg up on me, and these are very
competitive people. And then you know, you can the old
there's an old libertarian concept of you know, people pursuing
their self interest. By people pursuing their self interest, you
can benefit from that. If it's something that will by
pursuing their self interest, it's something that could benefit a
lot of people. So you know, I tend to look
at it that way, but no, I don't worry about
it because I know that there are enough people now
who think like I do, who own companies and are
have just gotten fearless about it. And even if they're not,
even if they don't openly aren't talking about these things,
they know about them, and they're pursuing, pursuing them intellectually
and hopefully soon seeking for them to materialize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, you know, especially after after this election,
the Deidi trans LGBTQ falls onto the same category lgbt
Q plus academy somebody else had mentioned is in a
bear market.
Speaker 2: Mm, yeah, I mean I think we're seeing that. I mean,
even AOC took the pronouns out of her bio and
told me that started started calling I think she is
addressing herself now instead of like congress person as congresswoman.
And I mean the other day she put out a
suite where someone was talking about special interests and she
actually named Apak. So it's like, I mean, I look
at an elected official who's doing that, and she could
be doing that for self interest. But the fact is
is that a lot of people who read that tweet,
who follow AOC may not even know who a Pack is.
There are still people you know, we're so online and
we're so into politics. We know who APAC is. We
heard Thomas Massey on Even if you really don't. You
heard Thomas Massey talking about it on Tucker Carlson. I
think that's where a lot of people learn about APAC.
But when you see things like that, and then you
see people you know I've seen, I mean, these are
all anecdotal about h DEI, apartment departments getting getting dismantled
in certain in companies, and people just not taking it
seriously anymore, and it becoming the butt of more jokes,
and the HR lady becoming the butt of more jokes.
When when the jokes start about it, that's when you
know that it's only it's only a matter of time,
and the woke is not going away, but it's definitely
going there's there are going to be fewer and fewer
people who are going to be affected by it in
a professional setting, a social setting, things like that. It's
just you have Trump talking about or was it Trump
talking about, declaring that whatever gender you're assigned at birth,
that's your gender forever and you can never change it.
I mean, that's that's completely insane. It's completely insane that
he would do that with like the like the force
of law. But at this point in the opposite direction,
it's become the force of law. So why fucking not,
you know, I mean, if you have the force of
law coming at you for you for misgendering somebody, maybe
it's going to take the force of law to turn
that around so people don't get in trouble for it anymore.
So Yeah, I mean, I just don't I don't know.
It just seems like there's this real vibe shift going
on and people are really real. I don't think most
people were ever really down with the woke stuff, and
I think they just shut up because they understood, even
if they couldn't articulate it, they understood that they were
under a regime that would get them in trouble. And
I think that. I also think that if twenty twenty
rolled around again and had the COVID thing, Now I
don't blame there are people I'll operation warf speed and
stuff like that. Yeah, that's on Trump. But I also
know that if Ron Paul was president, he would have
been talking to Health and Human Services about something possible
to go to as far as how to treat this
and how to stop it too. So it's hard for
me to blame Trump for that completely. I think he
went just a little too hard on it. But I
mean Trump was responsible for the lockdowns. That was local.
I mean I lived in Georgia at the time, and
Georgia Governor Brian Kemp didn't have lockdowns, but there were
counties that have lockdowns. I don't know that people would go.
I don't know even know if people would go for
that anymore. Maybe and I can I can hear the
black pillars going. But if Trump supported the lockdowns this time,
then all of MAGA would fall in line with it.
I don't know. Whenever he brings up Operation Warp Speed,
MAGA starts booing. So let's let's back up a little bit.
Speaker 1: The uh you think Pride Months that might back off
or is that here to stay?
Speaker 2: It was being destroyed. It was this past year. This
year Pride Month was already being made fun of. There
were a bunch of a bunch of companies didn't do
their Pride stuff, didn't do that. I mean, I think
June first rolls around and it's just June first. You know.
We used to have a joke that you know, we
had Pride Month in Pride Month in June, and then
you know, Sloth Month was July, because you know, you're
going through the seven Deadly Sins, but it's already started dying,
so I don't really look at that. I think this
year it will be people will be trying to promote
it and they'll be getting slammed. I think people, you know,
it's it's already gotten to the point where left the
start to promote ship on Twitter, and it's just it's
a pileon of you know, all the woke stuff and everything.
It's just this pileon of people just like not that
we're not doing that anymore, screw you making fun of them.
You know, I say horrible things. What I have a
tendency to say horrible things, you know, just for for
shock value mostly, but I mean them too. I think
this year is going to be I wouldn't be shocked
if some of the European companies still do their whole
thing on Twitter where you know, you know, American BMW
America of course BMW Saudi never gets any rate in
both flags, but you know BMW America guess that in
area and they'll just get pounced They're gonna get pounced upon.
That's that's already turning. That's already turning. I don't know
that you you see a big thing about Pride Month.
I think Pride Month will become one of those things
that becomes more local. San Francisco, Minneapolis, New York, and
New York City, those places will have have Pride Months.
But for the most part, most of America is just
gonna be like, screw you, We're not doing this anymore.
Speaker 1: Same with the social justice stuff too, but that's already
seems to be subsided.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's we really don't see a lot
see a lot of that anymore. I mean, sure you
can see. I was at the American Renaissance conference this
past weekend. Do you know American Renaissance.
Speaker 1: Perfect, perfect segway. Actually I want to ask you about that.
So yeah, I've had.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yeah I had a first time
I had a chance to have a conversation with him
privately and just wonderful, man, brilliant. There were like ten
protesters and they were all just exactly what you would
think people that you would throw out, you know, the
kind of person will walk into your business, you throw
them out. You wouldn't want them in your business. I mean,
just just just just just disgenous, dysgenic freaks kind of thing.
There were more in years past. I mean, it's just
what's hanging on right now is like true believers. All
the people who like were wearing it as just a
fashion have fallen, you know, or falling away from that,
and you're just gonna have some true believers. But I
don't think that's gonna I don't think social justice and
as and it really sucks? Is that that term? That
was the term that Father Coughlin used for his magazine
back in the nineteen thirties. Father Coughlin, that was actually
a right wing term at one point, social justice and
it got stolen. It got stolen, so just another thing
that they steal.
Speaker 1: How how was overall? How was the festival for the conference? Oh?
Speaker 2: It was good? Yeah, it was great. You know, Greg Hood,
great speech, Jared great speech. Trying to remember who who
else was there?
Speaker 1: Diana Well who, Diana West?
Speaker 2: No, no of who's the Jewish professor from Penn.
Speaker 1: Diana West.
Speaker 2: I can't remember her name?
Speaker 1: Amy amyx Yeah, Diana West author I just had on
That's why I'm I'm looking at her book right now. Tim.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Amy was great. I got to talk to
her the night before she spoke and everything, and she
was She's very very gracious. Uh. You know, her speech
was all about academia and basically race race realism and
for someone like her to be able to stand up
there and take the take the barbs that she has.
And you know, she talks about how like she'll have
like maybe thirteen students in a class on on that subject,
and three of them will be and they want to
be there. So you know, it's interesting that you have
young people who want to be in a class hearing
about racism and how the differences the the scientific differences
between the races and things like that. Martin Selner, who
is an Austrian who has written a book about remigration,
and I mean, he's he can't even go to Germany.
He gets his house raided all the time, and all
he does is talk about remigration. All he does is
talk about immigration, and that's how bad it is over there.
And his speech was great. He talked about you know,
steps that you can take, how to educate people on
it and just to be hopeful, and you know, I mean,
this is the guy who can't come into the United
States even though he's married to an American, he's barred
from coming into the United States. He had to tell
a you know, he was in on Zoom. So I mean,
it's just it's still nuts that you have. He needs
to clean clean that section. That part of it up. People.
You know, Telsea Gabbard is still on like not on
the no fly list, but they watch her. You know
that she has like surveillance when she flies, and now
she's going to be over the over the whole complex
that did that to her everything. So yeah, American Renaissance
was great. Anthony Kumia was there talking about how to
be how to be a racist in an entertainment and everything.
That was a really funny. It was just basically him
recounting stories about about his career and how how things happened.
I got to talk to him a little bit too privately,
and yeah, so it was great. It was there was
I was scared that there would be less people there
this year than there was last year, and there were
more people there and that was that was a really
good sign. So yeah, I always have fun to go
into those because the people are the most educated, the
most calm, the most you know, put together, you know
that you can meet. So yeah, I enjoyed going to
things like that.
Speaker 1: Did uh Vdeer anybody from Veder there? I think Man
was hading going there.
Speaker 2: Ze Man was there. Yeah, we talked. We got to
talk a lot on the first night.
Speaker 1: So he is a real person, that's what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, he's real. Yeah, I met him. I was
hanging out with him last year, so I knew it
was a real I knew it was real, But the
the Brimolos were not there. I was hoping that Peter
and Lydia would be there, but they weren't there. So,
you know, a lot of talk about v there, you
know a lot of people and privately talking about what
happens to them and everything, and you know, hopefully we
can make Letitia James pay for that, you know, in
the future.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've had Peter and Lydia on a
few times, and you know, the masses you started associating
lawfare with Trump, but you know, they fell victim of
it way way before, and it was absolutely terrible what
Letitia James It's has done to them.
Speaker 2: American renaissances, fallen victims to that. A lot of people,
a lot of groups, a lot of a lot of
good people have fallen victims to that. So hopefully we
see you know, we see a change coming. You know,
we know that it's not only people on the quote
unquote right in this country, but people on the left
want to stop immigration, you know, want immigration to be controlled.
So there's no reason like Peter and Lydia Bremolo and
you know, Martin Selner and Jared Taylor should be demonized
at all. You know, they just have a you know,
they talk about it more. They talk about it openly,
and they talk about it. They're not whispering about it.
You know, they talk about the realities of it. And
you know, they get into the science of it too.
So that's where people if people want to trust the
science and you know, until it comes to like you know, HBD,
then then you're not allowed. Then they don't want to
talk about science. Then that's not real science. But you know,
taking a vaccine, you know, taking a vaccine that you know,
most of the people who took it have gotten COVID
like three or four times since they took it. You know,
that's that's real science.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, Jared, he's still not back on acts.
They still won't give him his account back.
Speaker 2: Opinions vary as to why. I don't really want to
get into that. It's just I think it just.
Speaker 1: Slipped through the cracks, right, I feel like if you knew,
he would just turn it back on my guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think there are some people who've
fallen through the cracks. I mean I think Kevin McDonald's
still not back on acts and people like that. So
I think we'll see. Yeah, let's see what happened. I've
been telling everybody, you know, wait until after the inauguration.
Let's see what happens. Let's see, you know, let's see
what direction this goes, and let's see how quickly things
are acted upon. I remember in twenty seventeen, on inauguration Day,
there were a bunch of executive orders that he signed
off on. So not only am I looking for a
possibly some changes in policy and some really drastic changes,
and I'm also looking for a vibe shift, a real
vibe shift into this country really getting behind you know,
a lot of what Trump, a lot of Trump's messaging. Yeah,
I don't one hundred percent agree with all of Trump's messaging,
you know that. I mean definitely the his his opinions
on America's greatest ally and everything like that is uh,
I have problems with that. But on the home front,
things could be done and hopefully they're well. I mean, yeah,
I think a lot of the policy has a lot
of the policy that our occupiers have instituted has come
back to bite them in the ass. So I think
that our occupiers are looking to do carry out some
do some things that will benefit not to benefit us,
to benefit them, but will indirectly benefit.
Speaker 1: Us the country. Definitely, it definitely feels like, oh, you know,
Dana White was talking about this on Saturday after the fight.
You know how there has definitely been a weight lifted
since the election. Knowing that, I mean, the Democrat, how
do they not know it was going to turn out
that way for her? But I mean, would they have
been better to go with Hillary?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was Kamala Harris. Now with Hillary
have won, I don't know. You know, it's it's hard
to be able to look and go, Okay, did what
happened happen so convincingly? Because it was Kamala Harris. I
think definitely could he have beaten Hillary, like if Hillary
stepped in at the time Kamala did. I don't know,
It's hard to tell. I really think people just wanted
something different. I think people were sick and tired of
being scolded, sick and tired of you know what. My
friend Jason Moranchuk, you know, talked about this just this
spirit since World War Two of the Devouring Mother, where
you say something you're you're allowed to say certain things,
and if you say something that's out of line, it's
just you get attacked, like your mom, you know, if
you say a dirty word around your mom, and you know,
he says, you know, we've it seems like we're entering
into the age, and we have been entering into the
age for a little while. It doesn't happen all at
once of the vengeful Son, where the son is like,
well I'm not going to put up with this crap anymore,
and I'm going to fight back against it. And I
think that a big part of that was people just
openly advocating for Trump and being like, please come in
here and just stop this. For these what seemed like
herodins that have just been controlling us for you for
eighty years. Now, will it overturn the apple cart and
we'll have a complete vibe shift and everything? Who the
fuck knows. It's hard. It's hard to tell at this
point because too many variables, too many. You know, they've
tried to no matter, let's just accept the official narrative.
They've tried to kill him twice, maybe even three times.
I've heard that more attempts were were found out about
and everything. You know, let's hope that he's just basically
has a has a bubble around him of protection that
until he can get in there. And I'm not saying
that he's I'm not saying this because he's a savior
and he's gonna save us or anything like that. But
he definitely definitely represents the kind of I hate to
use the word change because that's so that was a
word that was just absolutely destroyed during the Obama years.
But a shift that people, I think want to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't. I couldn't believe he went to UC fight.
I couldn't. I can't believe he's golfing right now. They're
letting him do that.
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't say what say what you want.
I don't. I haven't really looked in to see what
his uh, what the people his secret service looks like
around him. If it's the same kind of lunatics, I
would assume he would have more or he'd be able
to choose whoever he want one in now being president elect.
But apparently he feels like he can do this, that
he can interact with people. And yeah, because like John
Jones could have could snap him like a toothpick if
he wanted to. You know, it's like they just the
fact that they let him go up there and you know,
you don't really see anybody, you know ready at the RAM.
I mean, he could probably snap snap someone's neck before
you know, law enforcement could pull a gun. And yeah,
it's just really odd to see. It really lends itself
to thinking that there is a shift going on, that
there is, you know what the spirit of the age,
that the spirit of the age is transforming into something else.
And yeah, I've said that, I think the spirit of
the age is transforming into some kind of authority. Just
whether it was going to be left or right wing
is you know, whether it's gonna be left or right
wing is the question.
Speaker 1: And we still and we don't know the answer to that,
or you don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2: No, I'd prefer right wing authoritarianism, but I'm prepared for
left wing authoritarianism too, So I was ready for whatever happens.
Speaker 1: Do you ever think we'll know, because it's just like
the pendulum just goes back and forth, back and forth.
Speaker 2: The only way we're going to know is if it's
I mean, insanely obvious, but if it gets to the
point where that's what people want, where people are like, yeah,
you know, there's no reason that I shouldn't be able
to go to Chicago. There's no reason that I shouldn't
be able to go to New York City or go
to a city without being you know, beaten, robbed, raped, killed,
any kind of measures that are taken to make that
city safe. New York City famously went through this. You know,
when I was a kid grown up in New York City,
New York City would have twenty to twenty four hundred
murders a year. That's a lot. That is a lot.
And when I left New York City, it was it
had dropped to like sixteen hundred. But you know, not
ten years after that, basically all but disappeared. And it
was basically a couple of factors, the city becoming had
become at that point kind of hard to live in financially,
so a lot of people left, a lot of lower
more lower income people left. But Giuliani actually cleaned that
city up. I mean, he just no zero had in
frisk who When I was a libertarian, I was completely against.
It's a you know, stopping risk policy and you know,
just broken windows policing, just arresting people for anything, for
any if you broke the law, if you broke the
letter of the law, you got arrested. I remember going
back to the city in like nineteen ninety five, nineteen
ninety six, and I hadn't been back in years, and
I was just walking around and I'm like, this is
completely different. Now. There were police on every corner, maybe
not every corner, but every other corner. And maybe that's
just what needs to be done. If you're going to
have a multicultural society and you're going to have a
city where seven million people are crushed in on each other,
and then you have all these people who come into
the city on a daily basis from outside the city,
and also it's a you know, just using New York
as an example, it's also a tourist haven. So you
may have nine ten million people crammed into this little
space at one time. Maybe you need authoritarianism. I think
you do. I don't think you can have a multicultural
you can have a multicultural society. I don't think multicultural
societies work. But if you have a multicultural society, you're
gonna have to have the iron hand of the law.
You know, Singapore is multicultural. It's multicultural, multi eight multi Asian,
but Asian. A lot of Asians don't like each other.
A lot of Asian Asian groups don't like each other.
And you know, you you get caned or go to
jail for spitting gum on the ground there. And that
may just be the answer to to our ills. And
I think if time goes by and crime and things
stay is, don't improve, people are going to be more
open more open to that as a as an answer.
Seems like New York City was perfectly fine with it
at one point. Of course, twenty twenty reversed everything New
York City and now it's a a hell hole again
that I used to it up to New York City
two three times a year. I haven't. I haven't been
back since two thousand. It just uh, twenty twenty one,
I went up there for a couple of days to
see a debate. I haven't been back since, just because
it's a hell hole again, Well why would why would
I want to?
Speaker 1: Do? You see? Do you see some of those cities
used to change that'll ripple down to places like New York,
Chicago or LA.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it has to. I'm if it doesn't,
you're basically running the risk of it turning into you know,
some kind of dystopian dystopian nightmare, something out of a movie,
you know history. I believe his runs in cycles. I
don't think it repeats itself, but I think it runs
in cycles. And we've had basically almost one hundred years
of lawlessness.
Speaker 1: Of.
Speaker 2: Insanity, of doing everything that the social engineers could do
to destroy the family, destroy people's faith, to get people
to stop going to church, to get people to worship
minority groups, to put minority groups above their own above
their own interests, and I just don't see that lasting forever.
That just seems like something that has to come back
around at some point, and I think when you put
it this way, if you start seeing cities get cleaned up,
that would be a great signal to know that we're
entering a new age, kind of a new age, and
and it's just a matter of trying to figure out
what the spirit of that age is, because that's how
you get through without being blackpilled. You have to know
what the spirit of that age is. And if you
can figure out what the spirit of that age is,
and you can, you can navigate it and survive and
even thrive. You don't want to just survive, you want
to thrive too.
Speaker 1: So as we sit here, what's on tap for you
for the rest of the year. And you know, as
we go into the inauguration, the first ninety twenty days
of twenty five.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I think that the old Glory Club
that I'm trying to remember of.
Speaker 1: Thank you for letting me to be a part of that.
Not to interrupt you, but thank you for letting me
be a part of that a few weeks ago.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no problem at all. I think what we're
going to do is we're going to seek to see
what Trump's vision is and hold to account the people
that he's appointed. To implement that vision. That would be
obviously after he gets elected. Up until then, I'm planning
probably concentrate on a lot of history podcasting, and I'm
just gonna sit back and relax, try to do something
that's not so political, because when twenty when January twentieth
rolls around, it's gonna be hard not to get political
and talk about current events and really be diving in
to see exactly what you what executive order is this?
What are they trying to push through here? Is there
gonna be a problem with this appointment? What's going to
happen here? What are these guys doing? And everything? So
after that, I think we're just going to concentrate on
after inauguration, concentrate on keeping people, keeping people as accountable
as possible. And before that, you know, I'm just going
to enjoy the holidays, you know, Thanksgiving coming up very soon,
gets to spend that with my wife's family. Then Christmas,
of course, I'm just going to enjoy myself until inauguration
day and hope nothing really really horrible happens, like I
knew it gets dropped somewhere, or someone makes an attempt
on Trump again, or yeah, hopefully life doesn't. Hopefully, you know,
life doesn't get in the way and we're just able
to have a nice calm before the storm. Because I
think that in January. Not to invoke any q Q language,
but I think a storm is it's going to be
like a storm on January twentieth, and that's when you're
going to see all hell break loose. If all hell
doesn't break loose and no one's pushing back on what
he wants to do, I wouldn't even know what that.
That sounds like fantasy to me. I think there's gonna
be a lot there's gonna be a lot of fireworks
after January twentieth when he takes that pen and starts
putting it to the paper and they start making moves.
So up until then, just gonna sit back, relax read.
I've been reading a hell of a lot more lately,
been finding time to sit down and read at least
a chap, been reading a chapter out of a couple
books every day and concentrate on my sub sects. And yeah,
that's it. I think the I'm taking this as a
vacation up until January twentieth, and then when well, I'm
still gonna be putting out episodes all the time and
doing some readings. But once January twentieth throws around, I
think that if you have a podcast, you're gonna have
a lot to talk about. So either way, if you
hate him, if if you love them, if you are skeptical,
if anything, there's gonna be a hell of a lot
to talk about. And can't wait. I mean it can't.
It's twenty honestly twenty. It can't get here quick fast
enough because all the crap that can happen between now
and then is is you know, way weighs on your
mind a little bit.
Speaker 1: Do you do when you say hell breaks those you
do you mean more on the from a government level
level or just unrest.
Speaker 2: No, I think that you're gonna see political. I mean
it's gonna be political. You know, you'll start to see
how war is politics is war by other means that
you will the yeah, hyperbole, the everything's gonna ramp up.
It's just going to be if Trump does this, it's
gonna you know, we'll be dead in five years. If
Trump does this, you know, trans kids will be trans
kids will be rounded up into camps and everything like that.
It's just it's gonna be wild and entertaining, and thankfully
it just provides for a lot of a lot of
good content for those of us that that's what we do.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's gonna happen after four years with Trump?
I mean the phenomenon of him will be gone and
no one's going to replace that.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing is is that if you properly,
properly understood, if he doesn't, if radical change is not made,
if the administrative state is not basically I don't think
it'll be completely dead. But if it's not, if it's
not weakened to the point where like you see the
woke weakened right now and things like that, then yeah,
sure we have there is a chance that in four
years things could start regressing back to you know where
where we have been over the last four years or
the last eighty years. And that's taking into account that
a lot is going to change. I mean I don't
even know that yet.
Speaker 1: I meant just a phenomenon of him, because this will
be his last run. Just the idea of the derangement
syndrome on, you know, people hating him or loving him.
You know, there's no politician. I don't think I'll ever
see again in my lifetime that's had that kind of impact.
And this this is all start of the last run.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that this is also the could be
the nail on the coffin of the politician. Not that
there won't be politicians, but there will be, but it
will be I think you're going to see more of
a concentration on private industry. You know, Musk Musk is
basically taken over space, taken over space travel. I think
you're going to see a lot more of private industry
being look to as the government used to be looked to.
I think you're going to see politicians going to become
figureheads even more than they do now. But yep, one
thing that has to be taken into consideration, and you know,
bring this all the way back to now, is we're
still under occupation. And in four years, I'll say it
right now, we're still going to be under occupation by
the same power. Their power may be weakened. But you know,
the question is what does that look like with If
Trump is the death of the you know, the politician,
the the celebrity politician, if people just want to go
back to, oh, you know, politicians should look like this
to look like that, and they should be. I want
us to go back to the statesman, where where you
would have a statesman who's more you know, classic like
George H. W. Bush was still a statesman, he was
still respectable. Nixon was respectable. Yeah, back to politicians who
understand their role, who understand what they're supposed to represent.
And I think there's a chance we can go we
can go back to that. But then, you know, you
always have the cloud hanging over your head of are
you still occupied? And if we're still occupied by a
foreign power and we are not America, then still going
to be a whole hell of a lot of work
to do, you know. And that's why another thing for
the Old Glory Club. One of the the goal of
the Old Glory Club is to raise up our future elites,
the kind of people who would step into positions like
this and who you know, when you hear the term
America first, are really America first? They all they care
about is America. They don't care about our greatest ally
or are our allies are those alliances are not entangling
as we were supposed to have from the beginning, So
still work to you, nothing's going to nothing is going
to be perfect. Nothing is ever perfect. There is no perfect.
There will always be you will always have things that
need to be worked on. Until you have a government
that genuinely is there to serve the people, is there
to protect the people and to protect their identity, their culture,
their language, their relationships with each other. That nothing can
break that, that, nothing would disrupt that, nothing would subvert that.
So yeah, still a lot of work, still tons of
work to do. Anyone who thinks that Trump is going
to solve all our problems, I don't even really know
that that person exists. I think that there's a those
are straw that's like a real straw man. Maybe there
are some boomers out there who are still holding on
to the one person can change us all and everything.
I don't think that's Trump. I think Trump is the
kind of person who points towards that, But I don't
think it's Trump. And I'm not disrespecting the man, you know.
I think he's genuinely a good man. I honestly do.
I think he's a good man. But I don't think
he's the I don't. He's a former Democrat from Queens. Yeah,
he's he's a demo He's a New York City Democrat.
He's liberalism is the ideology of death. And that's what
basically we still are. We still are even most the majority,
the overwhelming majority of right wingers in this country are
just liberals. You know. They believe in the Civil Rights Act.
They believe, oh, we just need to you know. It's
like somebody I had in DMS the other day who
was defending conservatism, and I said, well, why conservatism is
a left of ideology? Why would I why would I
want to defend conservatism? He's like, how is it a
left to ideology? I said, define conservatism and he said, well,
seeking to return and protect the values of the founding
fathers of America. I mean oh, I said, oh, so
you mean white male European rule, white male landowners are
the only ones that can vote. And yeah, let's start
with that. Name me a conservative that's defending that. Name
me a conservative who isn't a Civil Rights Act American
they've taken you know, I've had I've had Greg Hood
on the show a couple of years ago, and we
talked about how the Civil Rights Act basically replaced the Constitution.
The Constitution was for a certain kind of person, and
those are the people that, for the last eighty years
were most under attack in this country, White male Europeans, Protestants,
mostly overwhelming majority Protestant. So that's what America. If you're
looking to go back to America, you're looking to go
back to white Anglo Saxon Protestant America. If you're looking
for anything else, you're looking at the Civil Rights Act
of nineteen sixty four, which says that you don't have
the right to discriminate. Or you're looking at Shelley v. Kramer.
I think it's from nineteen forty seven or nineteen forty
eight that basically said you cannot have, you can't have
you can't restrict people from your neighborhood. Or you're looking
at Brown versus Board of Education, which nineteen gives you
integration in the schools in nineteen fifty four, and then
just twelve years later you have New York City teachers
being set on fire and teachers being raped in their classrooms.
I already mentioned multi multiculturalism, right, how's that worked out?
Didn't have these didn't have these problems. And you can
look at like when Bernie Sanders talks about you should
need to be more like Sweden. And he's talking about
Sweden before they flooded it with maniac lunatics from the
Middle East and Africa. Well, what was he talking about.
He was talking about a white Northern European country, high
trust society where they didn't look at each where if
somebody needed welfare or something like that, they didn't look
at each other. Like you know, you're stealing something from me.
Why because probably most of them are seventh you know,
seven cousins related. Yeah, is that ever going to be
America again? With the hell knows? But if you want America,
if you want the American founding ideals, I just gave
them to you. Anything else is from the nineteen sixties.
And if you prefer the nineteen sixties over the seventeen sixties, okay.
Speaker 1: I take the seventeen sixties. If the option is being
presented to me right.
Speaker 2: Now, me too, Me too. Like my oldest my oldest
relative on my mother's side has only been here since
like the eighteen early eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: But you.
Speaker 2: Fought the war on the wrong side. I fought the war,
So you know I have a little bit of skin
in this game. I'm not from founding stock, but very
soon thereafter.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you?
Speaker 2: Pete The Pete Canona Show on all podcatchers, Pete substack
dot com, and the Old Glory Club. But we stream
live on YouTube every every Thursday night at eight pm sharp,
eight pm sharp. We're never late eight pm. I hope
you hear the sarcasm in that, But come check us out.
I think we do. We do a really good job
of covering the news and having some laughs as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I could vouch I was. I was part
of it a few weeks ago, and I encourage everybody
to not only check out Pete Show, read a substack,
but also check into Old Gloys Club every eight o'clock
Central time, nine o'clock eastern, right, nine o'clock eastern.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at eight o'clock eastern, eight o'clock eastern for this
for the live stream. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: Because I was on the East coast when I when
I recorded with you guys, because i was all screwed
up with the time change because I'm in Arizona now
now ironically I'm on mountain time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Arizona is only one of two states that
doesn't turn the clock back or it doesn't adjust for
for daylight saving time. Yeah, what's the other state Hawaii?
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I think there's parts of Indiana,
or I thought there was. I think there. I think
there's parts of Texas at Is Mountain. I think there's
parts of Indian end of the Central Memory Survey. I
could be wrong about that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Alabama's all Central. So this is the first
It's the second time in my life I've lived in
Central but the first time it was only for a
few months. So I always lived on the always lived
in the East Coast. Separate times I lived overseas.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was in La one weekend a long
time ago, in November, and it happened to be the
weekend the clocks were changing, so I had the extra
hour to sleep in in the morning and then flew
right back and gave the hour back later on that day.
Speaker 2: It's always funny how that happens.
Speaker 1: Pete as always man, great conversation. I look forward, look
forward to more ahead. Happy Thanksgiving, and uh look forward
to continue to follow your work.
Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving, Michael, Thank you, my drop