1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to another Sasquatch Theory podcast tonight. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:13,119 I'm joined by Tony from California's Bay Area. Tony enjoys 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,359 spending time outdoors, but a series of strange encounters left 4 00:00:17,399 --> 00:00:22,000 him questioning what was really out there. From an overwhelming 5 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:26,679 odor that many witnesses describe and hearing something violently hitting 6 00:00:26,719 --> 00:00:29,960 a shed while he was working, to glowing red eyes 7 00:00:30,079 --> 00:00:35,039 near Montera Mountain, and another unexplained experience off of Highway 8 00:00:35,119 --> 00:00:38,079 one oh one. Tony shares the details of what he 9 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,240 witnessed and I hope you guys enjoy this interview. If 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,159 you have a bigfoot encounter that you would like to 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,759 share here on Sasquatch Theory, feel free to get in 12 00:00:46,799 --> 00:00:51,359 touch with me sometime at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. 13 00:00:51,679 --> 00:00:54,479 With all that being said, let's dive straight into Tony's 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:01:11,920 strange experiences from the state of California. Tony, Welcome to 15 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:13,879 Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today, sir? 16 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:16,239 Speaker 2: Doing great? Yourself? How you doing? 17 00:01:16,519 --> 00:01:19,519 Speaker 1: I'm doing excellent. Thank you so much for asking Tony 18 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,120 if you would tell me a little bit about yourself, 19 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,599 where you're from, and your experiences from the very beginning. Please. 20 00:01:27,239 --> 00:01:32,439 Speaker 2: All right, So from California, kind of in the Bay Area. 21 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:33,519 I work in the Bay Area. 22 00:01:35,599 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: I've done a lot of outdoor activities since I was 23 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,760 a kid, hunting quite a bit, especially out in the valley, 24 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:47,840 out in the foothills. I work in the industry of telecommunications, 25 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,400 so I'm out at remote sites in particular more like 26 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,760 like like cellular communications, you know, So. 27 00:01:57,319 --> 00:01:59,239 Speaker 2: I go out to a lot of different remote. 28 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,519 Speaker 3: Sites throughout the area more and then outside of the 29 00:02:02,519 --> 00:02:03,200 Bay Area as well. 30 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate you for sharing that with me, and 31 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:10,599 if you would walk me through your first experience and 32 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:11,520 what unfolded. 33 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:17,319 Speaker 3: So my first experience, and I'll spell out where I 34 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:22,439 was at. As a matter of fact, it didn't even 35 00:02:22,439 --> 00:02:25,120 click what it was until years later when I started 36 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,120 reading more about the whole topic. But my first experience, 37 00:02:29,159 --> 00:02:34,039 I was out in Salmonteo County, of all places, and. 38 00:02:35,879 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 2: There's used to be some compsites. 39 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 3: They since moved it because the location has done quite 40 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:42,840 a bit of revamping. 41 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,599 Speaker 2: And this was about two thousand and five, two thousand 42 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:46,280 and six. 43 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: And I was out at I don't know if you're 44 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:54,560 familiar with with California or the Bay Area. But up 45 00:02:54,599 --> 00:03:00,960 on top of ninety two there's a cemetery called Skylawn Cemetery, 46 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,280 and back in five six oh seven, the back part 47 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,039 of the cemetery was just all kind of like overgrown, 48 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:17,879 just as natural. Right, it's right up against the San 49 00:03:17,879 --> 00:03:27,240 Francisco Watershed, which is a keepout area, and I've been 50 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,800 doing COMMS work up there since the early two thousands. 51 00:03:31,199 --> 00:03:34,240 And on this particular day, it was a super super 52 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,039 fog day, Like it's one of those days. 53 00:03:36,039 --> 00:03:38,639 Speaker 2: It's just the fog is just so thick. 54 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: It's rolling through windy and there's just fog you can 55 00:03:41,879 --> 00:03:43,919 just rolling through well. 56 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:50,719 Speaker 2: Anyway, So that experience is kind of mild. But as 57 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:54,360 I was working in the shelter at the com shelter, when. 58 00:03:54,159 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: I got out, I experienced the thickest, muskiest smell ever. 59 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,280 And I've been hunting, I've been around animals, I've been 60 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,520 around livestock as well, and this smell just like overpowered 61 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,680 every it was so thick. I thought maybe it was 62 00:04:10,719 --> 00:04:14,840 in the thought in the in the fog, right, And 63 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:18,800 I didn't really think twice about it. I'd go outside, 64 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,000 you know, to use the bathroom. Real quick, you know, 65 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,800 just kind of relieve myself, go back inside and work 66 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,560 on the radio equipment, and then go back outside. 67 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: And that smell was still there, was just real thick everywhere. 68 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 3: When I was inside, I kept hearing like things hitting 69 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,120 the shelter, and I kept thinking that it was like 70 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,040 trees or something like that, you know, like because it's windy. 71 00:04:45,079 --> 00:04:46,800 So I kept thinking, all right, there's trees and all that. 72 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,360 And then I go outside, you know, to you know, 73 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,279 use the head real quick, just out on the bush, 74 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,560 and I kept hearing like something moving around. My first 75 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,639 thought was, you know, I want and if it's a 76 00:05:01,079 --> 00:05:04,639 mountain lion, it's definitely not deer, and it in my 77 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,399 head I kind of picture like a mountain lion that's 78 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:08,959 kind of like uh like. 79 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: Like like like uh, you know. 80 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:16,439 Speaker 3: The way cats jump, right, yeah, And just it looked 81 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,439 like it sounded like it was jumping kind of around me, 82 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:21,319 almost like a. 83 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: Like a horseshoe from my right, boom boom booming around, 84 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,680 boom boom booming around. 85 00:05:28,759 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: And that smell was still real thick, real thick, real 86 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,360 thick smell, just real musky is nasty in the air. 87 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,319 Speaker 2: That spoofed me so I get back in the shelter. 88 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: I actually didn't walk out of the shelter until until 89 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,240 the fog had rolled out. By the time the fog 90 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,639 rolled out, there was no more smell. 91 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: There was nothing. 92 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: It was sunny outside, and uh, when I looked around, 93 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,839 I realized there's no trees where I'm at. It's just 94 00:05:52,879 --> 00:05:54,879 all this big like bush that grows here in the 95 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,560 Bay area. So, you know, I didn't think much of it. 96 00:05:59,639 --> 00:06:03,240 I didn't, you know, anything, And I didn't start thinking 97 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,600 about it until years later when I'm reading about the 98 00:06:05,759 --> 00:06:08,759 bigfoot of it, you know, all things, and I come 99 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:12,360 across the smell in some some book that I was 100 00:06:12,399 --> 00:06:15,000 reading or maybe something online, and it. 101 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: Brought back that memory, like, oh shit, you know what, 102 00:06:17,079 --> 00:06:18,360 you know, it was kind of weird. What was that? 103 00:06:18,399 --> 00:06:21,800 You know, it was just this real thick, thick smell. 104 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 3: So, you know, as simple as it is that that 105 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:28,639 that was like my first experience. 106 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,519 Speaker 2: It was just kind of weird. 107 00:06:30,399 --> 00:06:34,319 Speaker 3: H I don't know what was what was knocking on 108 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,079 the on the shelter because the shelter was really not 109 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,600 surrounded by anything. For some reason, right away, I thought 110 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:47,839 of trees, you know. But so a few months after 111 00:06:47,879 --> 00:06:55,319 that there's actually another site called Montera Mountain, and uh, 112 00:06:55,399 --> 00:06:58,279 you have to go through the watershed to get there. 113 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,040 And we were up in that site real late, and 114 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:07,480 we were coming back down the road on a fire 115 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,560 road that brings you back down to where the skyline 116 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,800 is at and about two miles from the the gate 117 00:07:14,879 --> 00:07:17,160 to get to where the skyline site is at, and 118 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,040 we're coming back through the watershed. 119 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,399 Speaker 2: Up in the trees, I saw two red eyes. 120 00:07:25,639 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 3: Right, and it was really weird because it wasn't like 121 00:07:28,839 --> 00:07:32,759 the normal kind of orange red eyes. 122 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:33,319 Speaker 2: It was just. 123 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:40,639 Speaker 3: Like like red, very similar to do you remember them 124 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,120 old alarm clocks, the old digital alarm clocks. Yeah, you 125 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,560 know the red that you get from the from the 126 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:47,959 from the from the number in there. 127 00:07:49,639 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: That's what it looked like. 128 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,279 Speaker 3: And it was just two red eyes about thirty feet 129 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:59,519 up in a tree, pretty far apart. My estimation would 130 00:07:59,519 --> 00:08:03,120 be there six or seven inches apart. I was driving 131 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,199 with another guy. He was driving. I was a passenger, 132 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,439 and I don't know, I just I felt schepid, I guess. 133 00:08:10,439 --> 00:08:12,279 I didn't say anything to him and we just kept driving. 134 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:18,399 It wasn't until later when I was watching a TV 135 00:08:19,319 --> 00:08:23,600 a documentary online online, and I think the documentary was 136 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,959 Chasing j or Finding Jay, and some part in that 137 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,399 video he shows a depiction of red eyes that he 138 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:34,320 seen and it was identical to what I saw that night, 139 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:42,679 you know, So as simple as those are the two 140 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,399 experiences I saw there, But. 141 00:08:47,919 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: I didn't realize anything. 142 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: Or even put two and two together until years later, 143 00:08:51,159 --> 00:08:54,440 after I was reading about the subject and I was 144 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:57,679 got more informed. That's a certain thing. I thought, maybe 145 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,120 it's a possibility, you know, I don't know. So I 146 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,720 started talking to the watershed workers, a couple of guys. 147 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: That I know. One of them actually he doesn't work 148 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:06,519 there anymore. 149 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,919 Speaker 3: And it's like every time that we'd start talking about 150 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,480 weird things that happened out here, they would get into it, 151 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,519 and then little by little they would kind of just 152 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:22,919 you know, cut it off and you know, change the subject. 153 00:09:23,279 --> 00:09:25,399 It was really weird in the way that they would 154 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,320 change the subject. They didn't want to talk about it anymore. 155 00:09:27,759 --> 00:09:30,240 They'd start kind of joking like it was chuppuck eybra 156 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,480 or something like that, and just change your subject completely, 157 00:09:32,519 --> 00:09:36,279 you know. But one of these guys that worked there 158 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,200 had told me to go talk to an old guy 159 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,480 that lives in Pescadero. 160 00:09:41,879 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna say this guy's name. 161 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: He's actually passed away since this is now about twenty 162 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:54,720 fourteen and maybe twenty sixteen at latest. And this guy 163 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:57,440 was talking like like like it was no big deal 164 00:09:57,639 --> 00:09:59,919 that what I saw was the what he referred to it, 165 00:10:00,159 --> 00:10:04,000 like the big fellow. And supposedly it was a bigfoot 166 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,320 that migrates certain times of the year between the Santa 167 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:12,399 Cruz Mountains and up into the San Francisco Watershed. 168 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. And what could you compare the smell to. 169 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,600 Was it like a skunk or like rotten flesh, garbage? 170 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:25,279 What would you say? 171 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,639 Speaker 3: No, it wasn't a skunk. I wouldn't quite say rotten flesh. 172 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,600 I guess more like garbage musky. I think the biggest 173 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,639 thing was was the thickness of it. It was just 174 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,600 like everywhere, like like it was so thick. I actually 175 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,799 thought it was in the fog. 176 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:43,879 Speaker 1: You know, so musky as in like a wet dog, 177 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,240 like an animal smell. 178 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 3: Kind of like an animal smell, but just like like 179 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,759 ten times worse than a wet dog, you know, just 180 00:10:49,759 --> 00:10:51,080 like it because the wet dog you have to get 181 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:52,159 in the ear and you're like, oh, man. 182 00:10:52,279 --> 00:10:53,919 Speaker 2: Stink, you know you gotta walk. You know, we're gonna 183 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,960 shower you. This was just like it was like in 184 00:10:56,039 --> 00:10:56,360 the air. 185 00:10:56,399 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 3: It was like just all over the place, like like completely, 186 00:10:59,159 --> 00:11:01,039 almost like picture if I had a color and let's 187 00:11:01,039 --> 00:11:02,879 say it was like a green fog, and I was 188 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:04,320 like stuck in that green fog, you know. 189 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the eyes that you encountered, was there a 190 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,279 source of light reflecting on the eyes, like tail lights 191 00:11:15,399 --> 00:11:16,840 or your head lights anything like that. 192 00:11:16,919 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 2: The only source of light would be the headlights. 193 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,399 Speaker 3: As we were approaching that tree, and the eyes were 194 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:27,000 probably about thirty feet up in the tree, so it's 195 00:11:27,039 --> 00:11:28,720 really dark up in there, and all I saw was 196 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:29,360 these red eyes. 197 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: Oh wow, Yeah, that's scary. 198 00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:36,399 Speaker 2: Definitely does it's funny right away. I didn't even think 199 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,240 big for anything like that. 200 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: I thought like, at first, I thought like it was 201 00:11:39,399 --> 00:11:42,840 like maybe a like it looked artificial, so I thought 202 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:44,200 it was like a game came or something like that, 203 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,360 and it was like a light off of a game cam. 204 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,440 And then I'm thinking, you know, why the hell is 205 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:49,960 it all the way up thirty feet up in the air. 206 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: And then you know there's two of them. 207 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,080 Speaker 3: So then I was that's kind of weird, not that 208 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,519 an owl, but you know, it's just I'm just trying 209 00:11:57,519 --> 00:11:59,879 to like put two and two together, like, you know, what, what, 210 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:00,559 what the heck is this? 211 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 2: Right? 212 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 3: And I was actually driving with my coworker and I 213 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:04,799 was going to say something to him, and I was 214 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,399 just like, ah, well, fuck, I'm not gonna. 215 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:06,879 Speaker 2: Say nothing, you know. 216 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:10,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so he didn't see it. 217 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: He didn't see it. 218 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 1: No, oh man, Yeah, can I can't imagine how you felt. 219 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,519 And it was probably an isolating feeling knowing you experienced 220 00:12:20,519 --> 00:12:22,600 something like that and the other person didn't see it. 221 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. We were just chit chat and driving the whole time. 222 00:12:26,519 --> 00:12:28,480 I look up. I go, oh man, what's in my head? 223 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:29,679 What is that? I'm looking at it. 224 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,279 Speaker 3: I'm looking at it, and then we just pass it 225 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,000 and it kind of like almost like it was looking down, 226 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,320 because it was kind of like looking down. And then 227 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,039 if you pass it, I look back in the rearview 228 00:12:37,039 --> 00:12:38,159 mirror and it's just nothing but black. 229 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 2: So I didn't see anything, you know, behind us. 230 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and off air, you said, this is pretty close 231 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,279 to Andrews's encounter. Who's on my podcast? Off of what 232 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:50,320 is It? Highway one fifty two, I think it is. 233 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that is probably about a good forty miles south, 234 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,480 So it's beyond the Peninsula down pass San Jose, over 235 00:13:01,519 --> 00:13:07,159 at the Pacheco Pass. As a matter of fact, on 236 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,639 that podcast, he actually mentioned Samontel County like he's surprised 237 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,360 that no one's experienced anything in Samtail County and being 238 00:13:13,399 --> 00:13:16,840 out how much vast lander is here, even though Sanmontail 239 00:13:16,879 --> 00:13:18,399 County on the Bay side is a lot of city, 240 00:13:18,879 --> 00:13:21,120 but on the other side it's just a bunch of 241 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:21,879 like redwoods and all that. 242 00:13:21,919 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: It's continuation pretty much of the Santa Crieze Mountains. 243 00:13:25,919 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've never been to California, But in your opinion, 244 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,679 could something like Bigfoot exists in an area like that 245 00:13:32,799 --> 00:13:38,399 and remain elusive without people being able to figure out 246 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:39,600 that they're in the area. 247 00:13:40,919 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: You know, for many years I would have said no, 248 00:13:44,799 --> 00:13:51,279 just because the population here. But after seeing how vast 249 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,440 you know, and then working in different sites and how 250 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,919 a lot of the property up there is watershed property 251 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,559 and people aren't even a lot of go there, and 252 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,279 just how much land there is out there, I'd say 253 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,519 that it's it's probably possible. You know, if anything does 254 00:14:09,639 --> 00:14:12,320 like live like in the Santa Crize Mountains and you know, 255 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:17,720 periodically one or two you know, travel through to get 256 00:14:17,759 --> 00:14:22,039 to the the U to the watershed, I wouldn't doubt it, 257 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:23,960 would I say that no one knows about it. 258 00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:26,399 Speaker 2: I doubt that. 259 00:14:28,879 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I wonder if it's possible if these things 260 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,200 are migrating from like British Columbia down towards like Bluff Creek, 261 00:14:36,279 --> 00:14:38,360 Willow Creek area and all the way down into the 262 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:41,000 area where you had the encounter with the red Eyes. 263 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: That could be you know, I mean, I would almost 264 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:47,120 feel that if if if there's something that's living down there, 265 00:14:47,159 --> 00:14:49,279 it's not coming from that far. It's probably living in 266 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:52,039 the Santa Cruz Mountains and up in the area over 267 00:14:52,039 --> 00:14:56,360 there by one fifty two. Yeah, coming down from British Columbia, 268 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,960 it's quite a bit, quite a bit of land. 269 00:14:58,279 --> 00:15:00,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot of land must be coming from 270 00:15:00,879 --> 00:15:05,399 like the Redwood Forest or areas like that around the 271 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:06,799 San Francisco Bay area. 272 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 273 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,759 Speaker 3: So you know, that's as corny as it is. 274 00:15:11,799 --> 00:15:13,759 Speaker 2: That's all I got. 275 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,759 Speaker 3: I guess the intriguing party is the location where I 276 00:15:16,759 --> 00:15:19,879 saw this, And you know, it could be anything to 277 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:24,360 you know, It's just I've never smelled anything like that, 278 00:15:24,799 --> 00:15:28,360 and I've never again seen any eyes like that again, 279 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:32,799 that color of red. Yeah, that big, big round eyes 280 00:15:33,039 --> 00:15:33,720 that far apart. 281 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: No, that definitely makes sense. I get a lot of 282 00:15:38,159 --> 00:15:41,159 reports on the channel of people encountering red eyes. Are 283 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:45,360 there any local legends of giant skeletons being found in 284 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,759 the area of skinwalkers, burial mounds, anything like that. 285 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I don't know. 286 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 3: The only local legend I know is when I was 287 00:15:55,159 --> 00:15:57,759 speaking to the old guy that lived in Pescadero and 288 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,840 supposedly there was a a sasquatch that would migrate through 289 00:16:01,919 --> 00:16:03,720 and actually, as a matter of fact, he always referred 290 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,799 to it as being white, like like they had white 291 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:08,480 hair or grayish hair, and it. 292 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,799 Speaker 2: Would migrate between. 293 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:15,919 Speaker 3: From the Santa Cruz Mountain area through up to the peninsula. 294 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,480 And he talked about it like it was no big deal, 295 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,679 like it was something he's known since he was a kid. 296 00:16:23,039 --> 00:16:27,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. And I asked that because of the 297 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:31,320 island off of California where I supposedly they found a 298 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,960 bunch of giant skeletons, I think it's like Catalina Island 299 00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:34,440 or something. 300 00:16:35,559 --> 00:16:37,559 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a bit further south than us. 301 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 3: But that's over in off of the southern California, in 302 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,879 La Catalina. 303 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I've heard about that. 304 00:16:43,159 --> 00:16:46,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it makes me wonder if there's a connection 305 00:16:46,279 --> 00:16:48,120 with all that. But the Red Eyes. 306 00:16:48,399 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 3: Oh there's one other thing that happened during that time, 307 00:16:51,159 --> 00:16:53,240 and I completely forgot about it. I'll tell you right now. 308 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:55,360 So I was I was driving on one on one 309 00:16:55,559 --> 00:16:59,799 getting off of one O one in Redwood City at 310 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,960 the This was around that same time. I can't tell 311 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:03,720 you exactly what it was, but it was around that 312 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:08,319 same time. And I got off a whipple going towards 313 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:11,240 Reword City and at the stop at the stop light 314 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:16,440 there there was a like a small little toyota and 315 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:20,119 it was all decked out with like bigfoot Sasquatch adventure 316 00:17:20,519 --> 00:17:22,039 or sciences something like that. 317 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:23,599 Speaker 2: And it was a guy that was in. 318 00:17:23,559 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 3: There, and he had like he had kind of like 319 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,000 the he was like like a white dude with like 320 00:17:28,039 --> 00:17:29,599 a beard, but had like the native look, like he 321 00:17:29,599 --> 00:17:31,480 had feathers in his hair and all that stuff, right, 322 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,640 And I kind of hanked at him when he was 323 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,000 there at the lights, and I said, you know, what 324 00:17:36,039 --> 00:17:39,119 are you doing here? And he said that there was 325 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:43,319 a report of a bigfoot seen in La Honda, in 326 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:49,079 Mo Honda's town in the woods, just south of where 327 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,839 of where I was at. And that's another thing that 328 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,559 happened during that time that I completely forgot about. I 329 00:17:57,559 --> 00:18:00,680 didn't even remember about my encounter. This is when I 330 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:05,400 ran into this guy. And the timeline kind of tracks though, 331 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,640 because I looked it up years later that same guy 332 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:13,039 and the Saniniteo Journal had done a little story about 333 00:18:13,079 --> 00:18:16,519 him on how he was researching some kind of encounter 334 00:18:16,599 --> 00:18:19,640 that happened over in the Honda where a reporting bigfoot 335 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,359 was stilling rocks at the at the front of a 336 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:25,039 of a house at the front door, and the timeline 337 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:29,839 kind of tracks. The report in the newspaper says it 338 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,480 was two thousand and seven. My memory serves as what 339 00:18:33,559 --> 00:18:35,519 I saw was two thousand and five, two thousand and six, 340 00:18:36,039 --> 00:18:38,640 probably about two thousand and six. So it's just kind 341 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,759 of funny that there was a big foot researcher on 342 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:47,000 the peninsula just after what I had seen or experienced. 343 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, so other people were reporting strange, mysterious things and 344 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:57,279 the same timeframe that you had your experiences. Yes, Wow, 345 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,920 And what do you think these things are? If you 346 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,599 did experience bigfoot activity, what do you think it is? 347 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 2: You know? I don't know. 348 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 3: I used to think different things like I used to think, 349 00:19:09,599 --> 00:19:11,680 you know, like when I was younger, reading about it 350 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,359 like it was kind of like a missing link or 351 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:20,799 something like that, and then reading other reports, you know, 352 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:27,160 and people talking about the the the the primate attributes 353 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,119 that that, you know, like like it acts kind of 354 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,920 like an eight kind of you know, and then also 355 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:34,000 other reports of people saying that it's like, you know, 356 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,359 not something that's really flesh and blood. 357 00:19:37,799 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: I have no idea what it is, you know. 358 00:19:41,039 --> 00:19:43,599 Speaker 3: What I do know is that what I experienced was 359 00:19:43,599 --> 00:19:47,319 something odd and something I've never experienced again, never experienced 360 00:19:47,319 --> 00:19:50,519 that smell again, and I've never seen eyes of that 361 00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:51,839 color ever again. 362 00:19:54,799 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, makes me wonder what kind of crip that it was, 363 00:19:58,759 --> 00:20:02,279 because there's reports of other things other than bigfoot that 364 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:04,359 have red glowing eyes as well. 365 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,839 Speaker 2: But exactly, Yeah, from. 366 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,799 Speaker 1: What you described hitting the shed, the smell, it does 367 00:20:08,839 --> 00:20:10,279 sound like bigfoot activity though. 368 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that was weird too, And it wasn't until 369 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:19,119 later I started thinking Uh, what I was picturing at 370 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,880 the moment of a of a mountain lion kind of 371 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,759 jumping in a U shape around me, you know. And 372 00:20:25,799 --> 00:20:29,160 this is me thinking it's it's it's nothing concrete, but 373 00:20:29,559 --> 00:20:32,480 could that have been something that's bipedal that's taking bigger 374 00:20:32,519 --> 00:20:35,799 steps and you know, and it's kind of doing a 375 00:20:35,799 --> 00:20:36,720 half circle around me. 376 00:20:37,079 --> 00:20:39,279 Speaker 2: And it did it repeatedly, you know. I did it 377 00:20:39,279 --> 00:20:39,880 about three. 378 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 3: Times around me, once back over, and then it started 379 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,640 coming back around the other side. And that's when I 380 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,440 jetted right back into the into the the calm shelter 381 00:20:48,519 --> 00:20:51,000 and started continued working, continued working. 382 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,799 Speaker 1: Was the shelter in a wilderness area or more of 383 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,279 an industrial area. 384 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 2: So it's up on a hill. 385 00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:06,839 Speaker 3: Where it was located is actually a cemetery now, So 386 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,839 the cemetery was on the bottom part of the hill, 387 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,920 and this was on the back part of the hill, 388 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,160 which was still kind of just like overgrown shrubs. 389 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,839 Speaker 2: I'm not sure what kind. 390 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 3: Of shows they are, but there are a shrub that 391 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,039 grows locally off the coast here that can get up 392 00:21:20,039 --> 00:21:23,279 to about I don't know, maybe eight feet high at most, 393 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,680 and then beyond that is into the like it's kind 394 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:27,839 of like. 395 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 2: A Redwood area. That's the whole SF watershed. 396 00:21:33,519 --> 00:21:35,319 Speaker 1: No, okay, I got you. I wonder if there's been 397 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:40,559 paranormal activity at that cemetery, you. 398 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 2: Know, I wouldn't doubt it. 399 00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 3: There's an old house that they for some reason when 400 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,799 they built and expanded the cemetery. 401 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 2: On the other. 402 00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:51,799 Speaker 3: Side of the hill, there's an old like two story 403 00:21:51,799 --> 00:21:54,680 house that supposedly used to be like a commune back 404 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:55,759 in the sixties, I believe. 405 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 2: And they didn't destroy the house. The house is still there, 406 00:21:59,680 --> 00:21:59,880 you know. 407 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,559 Speaker 3: I thought they would have torn that down and just 408 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:07,000 continued putting plots everywhere, but they didn't. 409 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 2: I can actually email you kind of like uh. 410 00:22:13,559 --> 00:22:15,799 Speaker 3: Google Earth shots to kind of give you a description 411 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,480 of where I'm talking about if you'd like. 412 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I'm curious as to where your experiences took place, 413 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:26,559 and maybe I can get a better picture of where 414 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:29,720 they were coming from. Of course, it's all theory, but yeah, 415 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:30,559 i'd like to see. 416 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all theory, you know. And the only reason 417 00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:36,759 that really intrigued me to hit you up and and 418 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:41,839 and and call you was the interview you did with Andrew. 419 00:22:42,319 --> 00:22:44,400 Being that it was so close to home or so 420 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,279 close to where because home for me is a little 421 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,240 a little farther away, but it was just so close 422 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,240 to where I experienced what I experienced, and then him 423 00:22:52,279 --> 00:22:54,279 saying that he's surprised that no one has had more 424 00:22:54,319 --> 00:22:57,240 reports in San Mateo County and Salmon Tail County was 425 00:22:57,279 --> 00:22:59,559 exactly where I experienced my experience. 426 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, I'm sure Andrew will be happy to hear 427 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:07,960 your experience. And later on down the road, maybe years later, 428 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,599 we start getting more and more reports from the same 429 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,759 area and we can start to build a better picture 430 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:17,559 as to where these things are going to and from 431 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,240 and where their territory is. 432 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,799 Speaker 2: No, absolutely, you know, you know, but I hope I 433 00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:26,559 wasn't wasting your time. That's all I got. 434 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 3: It's nothing like like I saw bigfoot running across the 435 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:29,680 road or anything like that. 436 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,279 Speaker 2: It was just those two experiences. 437 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:34,799 Speaker 3: And as you mentioned, it could have been any cryptid 438 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,039 or any other animal as well too, you know, But 439 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,119 it's just they were too odd, and there were things 440 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,359 that I've never experienced again ever, you know, And I've 441 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,079 been I've been out in the in the Sequoia Redwoods, 442 00:23:45,079 --> 00:23:47,640 I've been out at the all kinds of places and 443 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,680 I've never smelled anything like that ever. 444 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: Again, well before, Well, I'm glad you contacted me, and 445 00:23:54,519 --> 00:23:57,000 it definitely does help with the research, so I appreciate you. 446 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'll send those those screen captures of the 447 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,920 location so you have a better idea. And I think 448 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,119 on Google Earth too, I can kind of pinpoint the 449 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,720 years so you can see the difference in development, because 450 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,160 if you were looking at today, it just looks like 451 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,759 a cemetery. But I'll try to get like some old 452 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,079 Google Earth aerial views that show you what the terrain 453 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,079 look like at the time. 454 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that sounds excellent. And I appreciate everything you 455 00:24:27,039 --> 00:24:30,519 did today and I definitely believe you you experienced something 456 00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:32,559 strange and out of the norm and that's why you 457 00:24:32,599 --> 00:24:34,319 contacted the channel. 458 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it too. Thank you so much. 459 00:24:37,839 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: Do you enjoy your weekend and I'll talk with you later. 460 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 2: Okay, sounds great, Take care bye. 461 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,319 Speaker 1: All right, Thank you Tony for coming on and sharing 462 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,680 your experiences from California. Whether you believe these encounters point 463 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:56,799 towards sasquatch unusual behaviors something unknown, stories like this remind 464 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,160 us there are still places that leave us with more 465 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,880 questions than answers, and from what Tony described, it definitely 466 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,400 does sound like a bigfoot possibly and the red eyes. 467 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,240 That always gets me because I instantly think like when 468 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,279 to go or dog man. But there has been many 469 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,920 reports in the past where people have seen the sasquatch 470 00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:23,759 and they said it had red glowing eyes, so that's 471 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:28,079 most likely what it was. And he listened to my 472 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,599 other podcast from California that I did with Andrew off 473 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,680 of I Believe Highway one point fifty two I think 474 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,359 it is, and he really wanted to contact me to 475 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,200 share his experience, to let Andrew know that he is 476 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,000 not alone, and that really means a lot. I tell 477 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:49,640 my guests when they share their stories that we want 478 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,480 to share these stories because it might prompt other people 479 00:25:52,519 --> 00:25:56,680 to share their experiences from the same locations, and it'll 480 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,400 make you feel not so alone, knowing that there's other 481 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,759 people out there who have experienced strange things. And in 482 00:26:02,799 --> 00:26:06,400 this case, that's exactly what happened, and that's what I 483 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,680 want to see. I can't tell you guys how good 484 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,039 I felt after I had my bigfoot encounters and I 485 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,640 got on the BFRO and saw other reports five minutes 486 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,279 down the road. It made me feel really good and 487 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:22,440 I knew I wasn't alone, and later on there were 488 00:26:22,519 --> 00:26:25,400 more reports in that area. I don't know who made 489 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,559 the reports in Missouri, but I know that the Sasquatch 490 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,279 are using the waterways and the creeks that connect to 491 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,039 them and traveling through these areas, and it's not so 492 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,759 far fetched to believe that a cryptic creature wouldn't be 493 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:45,119 able to live in an area with a population that 494 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,039 still has forests around and remain undetected. If you have 495 00:26:49,039 --> 00:26:50,960 a bigfoot encounter you would like to share, feel free 496 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,240 to get in touch with me sometime and until the 497 00:26:53,240 --> 00:27:01,640 next one, you guys, be safe out in the woods.