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<v Speaker 1>What have you got academically? What did you get at school?

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<v Speaker 2>I got my basic GCSEs, so maths, sports studies, English, French.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't talk about geography because they told me it

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<v Speaker 3>would be about capital cities, and it was about.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanders and river bends. You have got basically, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I've got an A apart.

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<v Speaker 3>From in sports studies, but I've got passes and the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the part of geography and chemistry.

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<v Speaker 2>Chemistry is boring.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, geography was boring because it's about population density in

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<v Speaker 3>China and meanders and river bends and soil sedimentary and

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>It everyone on a daily basis. I find this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>pretty useful, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>It helps me knowing about meander's when I make all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, let's do a podcast. Welcome to what You're talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>Willis with at p. Sixty five Marcus Willis and me

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<v Speaker 1>is mate Dave. The grass is cut, the strawberry sauced,

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<v Speaker 1>the deck shoes ready, which means it's time for the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest Grand Slam of the Year. On Grand Slam of

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<v Speaker 1>the Year Eve, which I am right now. I have

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<v Speaker 1>got Wimbledon fever and as Pete Sam Press says nothing

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<v Speaker 1>comes close to Wimbledon. Nothing. Are you feeling a bit

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<v Speaker 1>buzz by it?

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<v Speaker 3>Willis very very excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Or someone someone I.

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<v Speaker 3>Say earlier the grass is always greener at Wimbledon.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got three stories that I've just put together based

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<v Speaker 1>on hits, but there might be a story where you're like, no, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to do that as well, because there

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<v Speaker 1>was a couple that I didn't put in that you

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<v Speaker 1>might want to talk about, like the BBC extending its

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<v Speaker 1>coverage of women until twenty thirty one, or the fact

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<v Speaker 1>this is last year we'll get Andrew Castle telling us

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<v Speaker 1>exactly who is in the Royal Box and yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's other little stories. But I've got Dan Evans, Jack Draper,

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<v Speaker 1>Serena Williams as my top three. Serena Williams the most

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<v Speaker 1>famous forty four year old in the world. Because everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has to go. Serena Williams, aged forty four, that's now

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<v Speaker 1>become a quadruple barreled name for her gets a wild card.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I get why Valencia WTA give wild cards to

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<v Speaker 1>Serena Williams because they need to sell their stadiums out.

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<v Speaker 1>Because when you watch the tour. It's empty, So I

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<v Speaker 1>get why Venus and Serena and whoever's coming back that

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<v Speaker 1>week gets a wild card. Bums on seats Wimwooden is

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<v Speaker 1>sold out infinite. It's over sold out. You can't get

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<v Speaker 1>more people watching it. You can't get more people in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is Serena Williams getting a freebie into this tournament?

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<v Speaker 2>What? I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>She's one at multiple times, stands getting one as well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's more about attention of the tournament as well.

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<v Speaker 3>How many people are gonna be watching her first round,

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<v Speaker 3>including myself?

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<v Speaker 1>Would you if you were so, I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a proposal that it's on Monday. Serena is playing

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<v Speaker 1>on sense call right theoretically right, She's playing on tent

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<v Speaker 1>to court and on court one. You've got two players

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<v Speaker 1>who are thirty five and fifty five in the rankings,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've got a ticket. Which court do you go to?

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<v Speaker 3>I think everyone goes to Serena because it's the unknown.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't know how well she's going to play. It's

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<v Speaker 3>another chance for people that maybe haven't seen her play

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<v Speaker 3>before to see her play. The atmosphere is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be ridiculous. I think that's why women have done it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's something amazing that you know, we'll be talked

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<v Speaker 3>about and watched globally.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, we don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of easier to answer after we see what happens,

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<v Speaker 3>isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Yeah, I mean there's an absolute blockbuster in the

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<v Speaker 1>third round of Serena against Swanchek, isn't there? Like this

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<v Speaker 1>is the I mean huge, what's that Thursday Friday that

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<v Speaker 1>could happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Could happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean just I will open up a window

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<v Speaker 1>and I would just shout Tennis out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Navratilova came back at forty seven and won her first round.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all right.

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<v Speaker 1>She did yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's not something that hasn't been done before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's and.

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<v Speaker 1>I think never twenty years ago this year or twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago this year, but yeah, yeah she did.

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<v Speaker 1>She she came back and played in the French as

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<v Speaker 1>well that earlier you know, the previous slam play play

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<v Speaker 1>got pumped. Yeah, and then yeah one through sir volley

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<v Speaker 1>she won. I want to say love and one.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I mean it's it's not unheard of, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just it's rare. It's rare because you know, people come

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<v Speaker 3>retire anything they're retired, like when Serena retired. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>think that would be it. Honestly, No. Oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think about a last one either, but again, you never know.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't have the sense I would never see

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<v Speaker 3>her again.

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<v Speaker 1>What's Serena Williams percentage chance of winning Wimbledon?

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<v Speaker 2>You're asking me? Are you asking bet three? Six five?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to ask you and then are going

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<v Speaker 1>to take everything I own to Ladbrooks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't think she'll win it. I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think she'll make it past the third round.

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<v Speaker 3>And this could be quoted everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it'll be amazing if she does.

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<v Speaker 3>And again if it happens, you go, okay, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it'll be unlikely when your first tournament back on a

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<v Speaker 3>singles court to be someone top ten in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>which is.

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<v Speaker 2>What she's gonna have to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, of course, And if she does, it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>is she amazing or is there a problem in women's depths?

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think it's the latter, based on what

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen the French Open. I think it's exciting in

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<v Speaker 3>the women's game. I think anyone could be at anyone

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<v Speaker 3>on their given day, you know, within reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Serena gets a wildcard. Dan Evans rather unfairly doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>get a wild card. Lots of the discourse I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>online is about, you know that that's disrespectful to someone

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<v Speaker 1>who basically for two decades now being our second or

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<v Speaker 1>first best player, rather than talking about that. In particular,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be Dan Evans's last Grand Slam. He's

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<v Speaker 1>playing in the doubles. Tell me your first encounter with Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know when it was, but I mean it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was good under fourteen, it was nationally good. We

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<v Speaker 3>played each other a lot. Yeah, I know, had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of very good matches. I think the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>he did me over when he was going on his

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<v Speaker 3>going on his rampage to the top thirty in the

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<v Speaker 3>world and I was kind of slowing down a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>He beat me in prequelity six and six. For the

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<v Speaker 3>time before that, I think he beat me five and

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<v Speaker 3>two somewhere. But before that there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>six and the thirds, a lot of six and six.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some great matches because our styles were. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It made for some great matches, but I mean we

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<v Speaker 3>had battles ever since we were thirteen fourteen, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to say.

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<v Speaker 1>And he just strikes me. I don't know him at all.

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<v Speaker 1>He strikes me as such a character. Yeah he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he Larry?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's not a filter. He doesn't lie, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>hold back. If he thinks something, he says it. But

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<v Speaker 3>he's often right about stuff. Yeah, he's funny, like when

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<v Speaker 3>he's around, you know about it, you know about it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's Yeah, he's pretty witty with his humor as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, has there it's interesting. It's not knowledge of

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<v Speaker 3>the games incredible as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right of course. Yeah, No, I mean he's got great

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<v Speaker 1>views actually, and he's going to be one of these

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<v Speaker 1>people who you kind of eternally wish that a governing

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<v Speaker 1>body would get him involved. But he's going to ruffle

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<v Speaker 1>some corporate feathers. I would say, which could you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cut his nose off despite his face a little if

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<v Speaker 1>he's looking.

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<v Speaker 2>But he won't care about that.

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<v Speaker 3>He won't. It will never change because that's just who

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<v Speaker 3>he is and it's refreshing.

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<v Speaker 1>And what have you two ever butted heads on call

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<v Speaker 1>off court. Has there been.

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<v Speaker 2>We've had some drama. Yeah, we've had a few words.

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<v Speaker 3>The stuff, but it's heat at the moment, stuff like

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<v Speaker 3>it's always fine five minutes after all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We used to have play fights all the time and

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<v Speaker 3>slap each other about a bit and it was all

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<v Speaker 3>in good spirits.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just funny. It's just it was just it was

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<v Speaker 2>just fun.

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<v Speaker 3>It was honestly some of the most fun times I've

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<v Speaker 3>had as he's been there.

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<v Speaker 1>And at the Aussie Open this year he was in

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<v Speaker 1>the same locker room as you, wasn't He was in

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<v Speaker 1>the opposite you for a little bit in the qualifying

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<v Speaker 1>like you were. He was in the qualifying And is

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<v Speaker 1>it going to be a shame that from Wimbledon onwards

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<v Speaker 1>it's just another one of your stable mates that you

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<v Speaker 1>won't be knocking around with every now and then and

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<v Speaker 1>bumping into.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it will be.

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<v Speaker 3>It's there's not many guys that play like him. He

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<v Speaker 3>was always great to watch. If ever I was playing

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<v Speaker 3>a match and he was on the telly, I'd stick

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<v Speaker 3>it on because I like watching him play. You know.

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<v Speaker 3>He came to the Netty volley where he was brave.

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<v Speaker 3>He defended really where I've read the game, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>got really stuck into matches as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll miss watching him play. I missed.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he'll still be around a bit. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's coaching. Coaching a little bit, is what I think

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<v Speaker 3>he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Will he make a good coach, Yeah, I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>very good on his knowledge base.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but knowledge base, but there's actually the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>get stuck in. And his mentality was very very good.

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<v Speaker 3>I know sometimes people saw him snap or whatever, but

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<v Speaker 3>he he was a very very good fighter, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think some of some of the people he'll be coaching

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<v Speaker 3>will need that.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think he's going to end up with

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<v Speaker 1>a younger British player something like that?

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know who who will end up with,

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<v Speaker 3>but I think he'd be a waste of knowledge and

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<v Speaker 3>experience if he didn't end up on the toy yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and fun as.

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<v Speaker 1>Well if he was in your team.

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<v Speaker 3>The off court stuff is fun as well, oh mad

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<v Speaker 3>little games you play in the players lounge and and

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<v Speaker 3>and the commentary of that. Yeah, I hope to see

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<v Speaker 3>I'd like to like to see him around.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think he'll stay in the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope so well. I mean I've always really admired him.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, don't know him at all, but admired

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<v Speaker 1>him as a player. And as you said.

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<v Speaker 3>Get him on here, We'll get him on here to

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't care less about that. But schwang ko wang

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<v Speaker 1>with Dan Evans, I mean he's got it's perfect. I

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Murray is going to end up as a coach.

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<v Speaker 3>He's always going to add value to the game at

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<v Speaker 3>some point after his career. Yeah, it would be silly

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<v Speaker 1>He seems to me like analytical super process. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>Not one bit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yet you were there?

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<v Speaker 3>Was at Eastbourne and he was hitting, hitting with him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still obviously outrageous.

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<v Speaker 2>At the sport.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, so where are you caught next to him?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm walking down the hill and I see him. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>Wants kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, one of those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>on because I noticed that, you know, having been around comps,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's it's but it's nice like it's a

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<v Speaker 3>nice feeling hitting balls. That's what you've done all your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So why wouldn't you and.

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<v Speaker 3>Why wouldn't you as Draper want and he's back and

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<v Speaker 3>coming back at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, of course. Well, I mean there's some

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<v Speaker 1>of the bigger stories. There's plenty more because it's Wimbledon,

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<v Speaker 1>I want Britwatch, which gives us a chance to play

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Faulsyth just just holding that there. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about, Willi's this is section two. This is

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<v Speaker 1>britt Watch, which means next year is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a big breakthrough year for Bruce Fasythe. Yeah, I'm backing Brendy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all backing ready, So.

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<v Speaker 3>The feelings going, so let's keep it going.

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<v Speaker 1>The good time to bowing out. Then the music goes

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<v Speaker 1>in there he is. Do you like Bruce Fullscythe Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He's good a way, doesn't don't man personally?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's past tense now obviously.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love Bruce, I love game shows. I

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<v Speaker 1>like Bruce. I like everything about him. Big Bruce, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Big Bruce.

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<v Speaker 3>Job kept the Tash all his life as well, which

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of respect and a wig.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, Yeah, yeah, fantastic. Okay, I've got the Brits here,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why we've got the brit watch music on. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to rattle through it and I would love you

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me everything you know from that vast NASA

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<v Speaker 1>computer of a brain that you've got. Okay, So Radakano Rusick.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she lost last time she played to her, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think okay there if she's physically fit, I

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<v Speaker 3>think she's hitting and I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think she'll be all right.

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<v Speaker 1>There always questions about her fitness, and there's stories in

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<v Speaker 1>the paper today. Of course, she's just got to the final,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't she. You know, she just got to a grad

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<v Speaker 1>school final and a second round match potentially against Harriet Dart.

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<v Speaker 1>That's yeah, that is that's a blockbuster. So we're saying

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<v Speaker 1>Radocanu a okay on that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>So. Now, Katie Boltera loves the grass. She's playing Katerina

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<v Speaker 1>grant Italian. But can get tight? Can't she bolt up?

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<v Speaker 1>Can start that ball toss and all sorts of suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>things look nervy. I think she's gonna have too much here, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, I've not seen many players that don't get tight sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's more obvious when the bulltoss goes

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<v Speaker 3>with some people, but for other people they'll start pushing,

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<v Speaker 3>or they'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Start slapping on the feet, will start.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think with Katie, when something has historically gone,

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<v Speaker 3>it's been a server of bortos, and that's more obvious

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<v Speaker 3>for everyone. Can you see someone throw the ball up

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<v Speaker 3>the wrong way you go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think she's confidence playing well Ribekina a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She likes the out crowd as well.

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<v Speaker 2>She does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean there's a lot of pressure for Britt's playing

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<v Speaker 3>women and that people will never realize.

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<v Speaker 2>As well.

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<v Speaker 3>Grass season is great, fun to play at home, but

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<v Speaker 3>there's this expectation that if you play anyone within your

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<v Speaker 3>ranking you should win. Otherwise it's a disaster. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>she's playing a qualifiers one. Three matches not easy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think you know, if she gets out of them

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<v Speaker 3>and plays the best game, sure win.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Harriet Dart, aforementioned potential second round opponent of Emma

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<v Speaker 1>Radakanu is playing Oster Penko. So I live four miles

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<v Speaker 1>from Wimbledon. There's a chance Oster Penko nails a ball

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<v Speaker 1>into the corner of the court. There's a chance it

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<v Speaker 1>might hit my house.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Four miles is well within that radius.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck predicted this one, mate, What you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's brilliant panker. Yeah, I can't predict that.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't preget that. It's just unpredictable.

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<v Speaker 1>Rue, I'm gonna go six love love six six love,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think, but I don't know where. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying who knows? Who knows? Right, I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>see a British second round match, So let's see now.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite backhand is Diane Parry. Sweet as a nut,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. She takes on friend Jones.

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<v Speaker 3>Tough again, tough Yeah, Frank and Frans a hell of

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<v Speaker 3>a competitor. Diane's incredibly talented, as we know. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not one I don't know with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know Frans better on clay historically. But it's not

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<v Speaker 3>like it's not like grass is playing unbelievably quick nowadays either.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it'll be a scrap I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, yeah, I think, I I do my little uh

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<v Speaker 1>tennis YouTube history has a lot of dying Barry's backhands

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<v Speaker 1>in it, so fair enough, delete cookies and stop all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Pop ups and move on, Harry Backham.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Swan against Bego what do you think? Like? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go on?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think that begs?

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<v Speaker 3>Beggo's very experienced, been around for a while now, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking of Yeah, Katie's obviously playing well injury free. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>great competitor, likes grass again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna do a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of fences with these matches because I generally don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think what we are seeing with Katie is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's the road back to the kind of being in

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<v Speaker 1>a big time, isn't it. You know, she's she's on

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<v Speaker 1>the route upwards again, and that's not always a smooth road.

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<v Speaker 1>There are bumps in that, so, like finding consistency and

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<v Speaker 1>things like that is always tough, and playing against someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's experienced and yeah, I mean it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>like some one's going to need patience minimum. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough to all, really tough.

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<v Speaker 3>She's a good competitor. Yeah, I don't think that would

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<v Speaker 3>be an issue. It's just yeah, can she go over

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<v Speaker 3>the line? I think she can, but it's not it's

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<v Speaker 3>not one of those because she's not playing a seed.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy, it's it's a hard match.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Hannah Klugman has a former Grand Slam champion, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>just one of them. So we've got Hannah Klugman, Mimiso

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<v Speaker 1>and Mika Steuslervich. And these are our three. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we spoke about them on the podcast a few weeks ago,

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of class of two thousand and eight or something.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems about twelve minutes ago for me, but I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that these are seventeen eighteen year olds, and how

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<v Speaker 1>do you see all of their hopes? Generally it is

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<v Speaker 1>winning around huge success for all three of these players.

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<v Speaker 3>Considering the draws they got them, Yeah, it would be yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's not nice. I've seen their drawers, but it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a valuable experience regardless of the result. It really

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<v Speaker 3>is playing you know, ex Randslam champions, X Grandslam finalists,

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<v Speaker 3>very good players. You go out there and see where

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<v Speaker 3>See if you can win. But yeah, they win one

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<v Speaker 3>of those matches and they'll be looking at the second round.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not you know, it's dramatic for an hour after

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<v Speaker 2>It just it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it defines their career one match, but

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<v Speaker 3>they can give them a lot of confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>When you were seventeen and you were stepping out there, Willis,

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<v Speaker 1>did you play with more nerves less nerves? Could you

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<v Speaker 1>remember what your seventeen year old brain was like? Barely mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Your brain now is about six years old. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>just picture what a seventeen year old brain is like?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I wasn't playing Maine to a woman

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<v Speaker 3>in that age, but but yeah, it was nerve.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I.

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<v Speaker 3>Felt more nerve then than I do now because I

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<v Speaker 3>was less experience. But yeah, it's it's difficult. These girls

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<v Speaker 3>have got far more experience than I did playing at

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<v Speaker 3>the highest level. But you know, playing junior Windwood and

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<v Speaker 3>when I was that age, it was nerve wrecking. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot more dramatic in my head than it

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<v Speaker 3>was in real life. Right, Yeah, you start thinking, oh

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<v Speaker 3>this this matches everything, and you know it was and

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<v Speaker 3>I played World. I'm a third round two years in

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<v Speaker 3>a row, a year youngest for that. But little did

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I had no kind of You know, if

427
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<v Speaker 3>you win this ornament, it's there's there's been junior woman

428
00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:32.680
<v Speaker 3>and champions that now don't play tennis anymore.

429
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<v Speaker 1>Yes, of course, yeah they've got.

430
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:37.960
<v Speaker 3>Jobs and less so in Roland Garras, but you know

431
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:39.559
<v Speaker 3>they've got their careers ahead of them. I think they

432
00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:42.240
<v Speaker 3>all do very well. They're very talented. It's just they

433
00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:44.799
<v Speaker 3>might not win this year, and they might and I

434
00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.359
<v Speaker 3>don't think it makes a huge difference into their development,

435
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:48.039
<v Speaker 3>to be.

436
00:24:47.920 --> 00:24:51.000
<v Speaker 1>Honest, because you hear, don't you Some people say when

437
00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:54.440
<v Speaker 1>they were young they played without fear, and then others

438
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:58.000
<v Speaker 1>say the opposite, Actually they grew into playing without fear

439
00:24:58.039 --> 00:24:58.519
<v Speaker 1>and kind of.

440
00:24:58.440 --> 00:25:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Having I don't believe any one who says they play

441
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 3>without fear but you don't play fear free ever, No,

442
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:08.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I can't relate to that. It's just you

443
00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:10.400
<v Speaker 3>might think there's nothing to lose, but I think as

444
00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:12.160
<v Speaker 3>you get better, there is stuff to lose. As you

445
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 3>realize you're at the level where you are, you start thinking, okay, no,

446
00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:19.839
<v Speaker 3>I can beat this. Player, and I think when you're

447
00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.079
<v Speaker 3>inexperience and young and you've got nothing to lose, Yeah,

448
00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:25.039
<v Speaker 3>it's still very different when you're five four and you've

449
00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:26.480
<v Speaker 3>got to serve it out. You're telling me you've got

450
00:25:26.480 --> 00:25:29.960
<v Speaker 3>no nerves. Then I don't think that's true.

451
00:25:30.599 --> 00:25:33.920
<v Speaker 1>No, No, Perhaps it's all just stuff that sits well

452
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.599
<v Speaker 1>in quick quotes and newspaper articles and yeah, that kind

453
00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:38.319
<v Speaker 1>of thing as.

454
00:25:38.160 --> 00:25:40.200
<v Speaker 2>Opposed to the actual performance.

455
00:25:41.039 --> 00:25:47.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Hannah won, Hannahkogman won the first WTA main

456
00:25:47.680 --> 00:25:50.839
<v Speaker 1>draw win in Nottingham last week. Mimis you did that

457
00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:57.200
<v Speaker 1>last year. Meeker is national champion last year. But as

458
00:25:57.200 --> 00:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>you said, they're playing Grand Slam champs, plainly big champs.

459
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:05.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, Christ they've got tough drawers. But you've got

460
00:26:05.039 --> 00:26:06.519
<v Speaker 1>to cut your teeth, and you're like, these are the

461
00:26:06.519 --> 00:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>people that they presumably want to be that themselves. So

462
00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:12.440
<v Speaker 1>now they get to go and see what the difference

463
00:26:12.599 --> 00:26:15.319
<v Speaker 1>is and hopefully come in with a little bit of

464
00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:16.799
<v Speaker 1>an upset there.

465
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you never know, you never know.

466
00:26:21.279 --> 00:26:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Now a name that I don't know, I don't know

467
00:26:24.319 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 1>much about Alicia Doudney, do Denny?

468
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:30.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I think that, Yeah, I think that's how you say,

469
00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:36.119
<v Speaker 3>American College. She goes to American College, won a lot

470
00:26:36.119 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 3>of matches in the you know, since she's the pro,

471
00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:44.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know a lot about her as well.

472
00:26:44.599 --> 00:26:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it funny that that American college scene, how these

473
00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:51.119
<v Speaker 1>players can from the age of eighteen, they disappear for

474
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:56.319
<v Speaker 1>four years from British rankings, ratings tournaments and they go

475
00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.599
<v Speaker 1>and play absolute top class tennis out there and kind

476
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:01.920
<v Speaker 1>of come up the radar, and then all of a

477
00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>sudden they're back in like a Jacob Fernley that you know.

478
00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:08.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's what a lot of people are doing. And

479
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:10.240
<v Speaker 3>it's nice to see the girl side as well. It's

480
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 3>happening happening as well. And yes, been playing the top

481
00:27:15.039 --> 00:27:17.000
<v Speaker 3>events last few weeks, picked up a couple of wins

482
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.599
<v Speaker 3>and he's playing a list of parks.

483
00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, that's right, huge.

484
00:27:22.200 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 3>Huge, big hitter, you can win that. Seeing her play

485
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:27.319
<v Speaker 3>play a bit, it's good.

486
00:27:28.680 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's going to be absolute banger. I would

487
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>say they they might not be a rally in the

488
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:39.960
<v Speaker 1>first four games, That's what I'm going with. I'm going

489
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:46.440
<v Speaker 1>with Lord Bangleton's no rallies, not for the first four games.

490
00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what what classifies the rally to.

491
00:27:50.599 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 1>You, I think you need both need a plus one

492
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 1>so four yeah, yeah.

493
00:27:57.480 --> 00:28:02.000
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, So a rally for me is like six

494
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:03.799
<v Speaker 3>six shots minimum.

495
00:28:03.920 --> 00:28:05.599
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Well, you.

496
00:28:05.519 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 3>Could go serve, return, approach and stretch miss. That's not

497
00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:09.200
<v Speaker 3>a rally.

498
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:10.359
<v Speaker 2>It's just a serve and a forehun.

499
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:14.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Okay, what do you remember your greatest rally?

500
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 3>No, I couldn't.

501
00:28:19.079 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't put that.

502
00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:24.720
<v Speaker 3>As I told you earlier, I've got tembules max, I've

503
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 3>never I've never seen the eleven.

504
00:28:26.960 --> 00:28:27.559
<v Speaker 1>No.

505
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 3>No, actually, when I trained with Smithy there was more

506
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 3>than that.

507
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:32.759
<v Speaker 2>That.

508
00:28:35.680 --> 00:28:40.359
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on to the men's side. Did

509
00:28:40.400 --> 00:28:46.720
<v Speaker 1>we do this one first? Jack Draper against Taylor Fritz Boom.

510
00:28:47.400 --> 00:28:51.920
<v Speaker 3>It's fen sitting, isn't it, Because I actually don't know.

511
00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:55.319
<v Speaker 3>It's best of five. Jack's got some matches in him now,

512
00:28:57.279 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Fritz is just very very good as well.

513
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 1>He's good at tennis, isn't he.

514
00:29:02.319 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 3>He's very very good and good on grass and it

515
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:07.039
<v Speaker 3>seems to play quite loosely.

516
00:29:08.200 --> 00:29:10.160
<v Speaker 2>But it's not going to be easy either way. I

517
00:29:10.319 --> 00:29:13.559
<v Speaker 2>think I think if Jack's got to win it, it's

518
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>got to be in three or four.

519
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 3>But again quote that because Jack can win five sets,

520
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:23.079
<v Speaker 3>is incredibly fit. I just don't know. He hasn't played

521
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:24.559
<v Speaker 3>a lot of tennis. It's quite hard to track.

522
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if we'll get that little bit of different

523
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:29.720
<v Speaker 1>bounce under him, you know what I mean.

524
00:29:30.559 --> 00:29:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's not got a physical problem of fitnesses in

525
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 3>terms of lasting a long time. It's it's more he

526
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 3>hasn't done it for a while, right, He hasn't played

527
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.039
<v Speaker 3>the best office the match since first round of US Open.

528
00:29:44.119 --> 00:29:46.960
<v Speaker 2>So so I don't know.

529
00:29:47.200 --> 00:29:50.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm obviously really looking forward to it. I think it

530
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 3>will be Tuesday afternoon.

531
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think head head says for it, heart says

532
00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Jack for me. But there's a bit of push pull

533
00:30:00.079 --> 00:30:00.279
<v Speaker 1>in that.

534
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Yeah, there is a bit of push for.

535
00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:05.400
<v Speaker 3>Like on paper, if you look at everything and you

536
00:30:05.480 --> 00:30:09.119
<v Speaker 3>don't know Jack, then you go our for Richard win

537
00:30:09.240 --> 00:30:11.000
<v Speaker 3>that because there's a player here who's been out for

538
00:30:11.039 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 3>a while and blah blah blah.

539
00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:15.599
<v Speaker 2>But it's Jack.

540
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:20.359
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be a huge one. That's tea time.

541
00:30:20.680 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>That's got a tea time Tuesday written all over it,

542
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 1>isn't it.

543
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll be tucking into something.

544
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Then we're canceling the news to continue with that.

545
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sorry, guys, Draper's sending rockets down still on the

546
00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:38.599
<v Speaker 3>weather for a bit. It's going to be art.

547
00:30:39.279 --> 00:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I could do. I could do all that stuff.

548
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:47.799
<v Speaker 1>Cam Norri against Michael Sheng now twenty twenty two, since

549
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>Noriy got to the semi finals at Wimbledon a while ago.

550
00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>But he is Cam nor right, I.

551
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Mean Michael Sayings did very well in college and come

552
00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 3>with qualities as well.

553
00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:03.240
<v Speaker 2>That's not a nice first round. It looks like a

554
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:03.960
<v Speaker 2>nice one, is not.

555
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>You don't think like Cam is just too steady.

556
00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:14.319
<v Speaker 3>Maybe, yeah, but you've got someone who's used to playing

557
00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:15.559
<v Speaker 3>matches under high pressure.

558
00:31:16.480 --> 00:31:19.599
<v Speaker 2>He's got three matches under his belt. Good player.

559
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Norri's first match at Winburden, it's not I don't think

560
00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:25.920
<v Speaker 3>it will.

561
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Be a rolling nothing to lose, well, no, not.

562
00:31:29.559 --> 00:31:31.039
<v Speaker 2>Nothing to lose, but I just don't think it.

563
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:33.720
<v Speaker 3>I'll be surprised if Nori won two to two and

564
00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.480
<v Speaker 3>two or something, or you know, easily and straight sets.

565
00:31:36.480 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I'd be surprised he can.

566
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:43.759
<v Speaker 3>But I think the depth and in tennis's there's not

567
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 3>many easy draws for anyone out there anymore. No, no,

568
00:31:47.039 --> 00:31:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I expect one or two of the sets to be tight.

569
00:31:49.880 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes at least yeah, yeah yeah, Yan joined Ski came

570
00:31:57.680 --> 00:32:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Caprieva your man, I mean vis yeah, mate, pronounce it.

571
00:32:04.960 --> 00:32:07.680
<v Speaker 1>So choine Sky's just cracked the he got into the

572
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:08.319
<v Speaker 1>top hundred.

573
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:11.359
<v Speaker 2>He did playing for Vitamin K first round.

574
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:19.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah kay, I mean I wonder like this is a

575
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>huge moment for him in terms of he's got a

576
00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>winnable match first of all, and that paycheck comes in

577
00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 1>and you've just got into the top hundred. This propels

578
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:36.079
<v Speaker 1>you again, doesn't it. This is the there's a lot

579
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:37.279
<v Speaker 1>of ingredients here where you go.

580
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 3>Points wise, I don't think it's that it's like forty

581
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:40.920
<v Speaker 3>or fifty points for first round win.

582
00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's good, but it's not.

583
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, financially very good and second round of women and

584
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:47.839
<v Speaker 3>blah blah.

585
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:52.720
<v Speaker 2>But for someone hundred, someone just about top hundred.

586
00:32:52.440 --> 00:32:53.839
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't mean they're going to stay in top hundred

587
00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:55.400
<v Speaker 3>forever if they just win the first round.

588
00:32:55.960 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, But.

589
00:32:58.039 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah it's winnable for VI as well. It's good.

590
00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:04.880
<v Speaker 3>Think Yeah, he's a good player, better on clay. But

591
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:07.480
<v Speaker 3>as I said, I can't stress enough. Now you can

592
00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:10.279
<v Speaker 3>jump off a c plate, a cray a clay caught

593
00:33:10.319 --> 00:33:12.720
<v Speaker 3>onto a grass court in two three days and be

594
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:13.319
<v Speaker 3>feeling all right.

595
00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 2>It's not that different nowadays they've slowed everything down. I'm

596
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:22.519
<v Speaker 2>I'm you don't eat it one volley to when I'm at.

597
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm thinking, this is uh not easy. But I

598
00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.839
<v Speaker 1>think this is a he's got a real shot. He's

599
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 1>a real shot. Okay, so.

600
00:33:37.240 --> 00:33:41.240
<v Speaker 2>I think he does as well. But but yeah, I would.

601
00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:44.839
<v Speaker 3>I if it goes four or five or bit wins,

602
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:46.279
<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be like overly.

603
00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Shot Jacob Fernley against Alex Michelson.

604
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Michaelson's good, good or rounder, smart player, loads of weapons.

605
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Jacob's prey good as well. It depends how if.

606
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 3>He goes and execute as well. But I think that'll

607
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.920
<v Speaker 3>be a good match. Not going to be much slow

608
00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:09.079
<v Speaker 3>hitting balls going on.

609
00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Both both ex college as well. Both come from that scene,

610
00:34:13.519 --> 00:34:15.519
<v Speaker 1>haven't they, I think?

611
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know where Mechason went. Sure, did he

612
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 2>go anywhere?

613
00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've got I've got his college that he was

614
00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 1>a college guy. So yeah, Jacob, Yeah, yeah, I think

615
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:35.119
<v Speaker 1>it's possible to be both there. Mate, he can be

616
00:34:35.199 --> 00:34:40.639
<v Speaker 1>young and you can be old. I'm very excited for so,

617
00:34:41.000 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 1>I think Jacob Ferley that I saw him in the

618
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.360
<v Speaker 1>fourth round against Jokovic. Was it a couple of years

619
00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:50.320
<v Speaker 1>ago when he really kind of burst onto the scene

620
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:55.039
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of bridge tennis fans, And yeah, I

621
00:34:55.079 --> 00:35:01.199
<v Speaker 1>think he's going to have a little bit too much here. Yeah,

622
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:04.239
<v Speaker 1>Billy Harris.

623
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Let me trumpet qualifier against Kashanov.

624
00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:09.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah again, there's not gonna be much nudging of the

625
00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 3>ball going on there.

626
00:35:14.760 --> 00:35:16.639
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know Billy so well, right, So.

627
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I've been Karen player a few times. He doesn't mind

628
00:35:19.760 --> 00:35:24.280
<v Speaker 3>giving it a thump repetitively, regressively.

629
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 1>So what is Billy going to do against Karen.

630
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>Kashanov probably hit it quite hard as well.

631
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's good.

632
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean that'll be a great match. That'll be a

633
00:35:40.400 --> 00:35:41.400
<v Speaker 2>great match. I don't know.

634
00:35:41.559 --> 00:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>If Billy goes out and executes, he can beat a

635
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:47.519
<v Speaker 3>lot of good people. Yes, And they say, well, I

636
00:35:47.559 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 3>don't know if kashov Is best surface is grass, but

637
00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:53.199
<v Speaker 3>he's obviously very good on it still because he serves

638
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 3>at one thirty and lasers balls from both sides.

639
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<v Speaker 2>But no, I think we're in for a good match there.

640
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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to that.

641
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<v Speaker 1>I think don't you think that the crowd are just

642
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<v Speaker 1>on the on the Billy Harris kind of train, like

643
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<v Speaker 1>I think people who've known him like proper tennis people

644
00:36:16.239 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in Britain. He's a real kind of cult hero for him.

645
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<v Speaker 3>I think he's always been a hero to me though.

646
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<v Speaker 1>Ah and of course many many years ago now he

647
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<v Speaker 1>actually came onto this podcast as well, thought of talked

648
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<v Speaker 1>about his fry upright and eating tuna for seven months

649
00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>or whatever.

650
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah McDonald's car parks for Wi Fi.

651
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Arthur Ferry somebody that you've played alongside, but

652
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:50.440
<v Speaker 1>that hasn't let him hold himself back. You know he

653
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<v Speaker 1>learned from that.

654
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, a lot of people it's fight or flight, isn't.

655
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<v Speaker 3>That You come away from that and go, I never

656
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<v Speaker 3>want that happen again. I better apply myself in singles.

657
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<v Speaker 1>Uh, he's playing Jim, tell.

658
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<v Speaker 2>Me I'm a good combat that people.

659
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<v Speaker 3>We'll see fairies form and go that it should be

660
00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.440
<v Speaker 3>easy on paper, but he is a good comester and

661
00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:20.400
<v Speaker 3>very quick. We'll fight for every point, as I say,

662
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.599
<v Speaker 3>no easy drawers. I think, yeah, I think that'll be

663
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<v Speaker 3>a great match to watch as well. I think Arthur Arthur,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll have too much for him, but I don't. You

665
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 3>can't write him off. That's an animal.

666
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, look but fairy is what he's got. Guyle, he's crafty,

667
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>he's clever, knows wimbled, and he's played it so much

668
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>as a junior whos played loads of grass court stuff.

669
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<v Speaker 1>I've seen him play there for years in various forms.

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<v Speaker 3>Very good and yeah, her kind of rises to that

671
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 3>as well. Some of her likes a scrap. He likes

672
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:03.320
<v Speaker 3>being the underdog will like. I think he'll play some

673
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<v Speaker 3>of his best tennis as well. But if Arthur plays well,

674
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<v Speaker 3>he can be. As we see in at Queens, he's

675
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<v Speaker 3>very very good as well.

676
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think either one of them are thinking about

677
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<v Speaker 1>second round? Ben Shelton?

678
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<v Speaker 2>You never knows.

679
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Shelton obviously his top tennis is very top, but if

680
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:29.239
<v Speaker 3>he's not confident on something he can he's not had

681
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:34.679
<v Speaker 3>the consistency yet to guarantee him into the second week

682
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:39.199
<v Speaker 3>of a Slatin. I don't think on his on his

683
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:41.920
<v Speaker 3>on his top day, Yeah, play Shelton on grass and

684
00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 3>he's feeling it.

685
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<v Speaker 2>Good luck.

686
00:38:46.440 --> 00:38:50.039
<v Speaker 1>So what I want to do now, we've got about

687
00:38:50.079 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 1>five or six matches to go, five or six players

688
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 1>I just want you to pick out one or two

689
00:38:56.719 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 1>of them that you think that is the match that

690
00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:01.159
<v Speaker 1>if you had the popcorn, you're going to be sitting

691
00:39:01.199 --> 00:39:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and watching that. We have got Jack p J Jack,

692
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<v Speaker 1>Pennington Jones, Toby Samuel, Felix Gill against your door.

693
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 2>All right? Is Pennington Jones playing against.

694
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Who he has got Nakashima? Yeah, Toby Samuel's got men sick. Yeah,

695
00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:30.880
<v Speaker 1>We've got Max, Max Basing and Harry Wendelken.

696
00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:34.559
<v Speaker 2>So who's Wender? Can play?

697
00:39:35.679 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Of these guys? He's got Royer, Valentine Royer. Okay, I

698
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:47.760
<v Speaker 1>know Grueling, the winner of Wendalken as well, could go

699
00:39:47.800 --> 00:39:50.360
<v Speaker 1>on to play as Verev in the second round on

700
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the center obviously, because he's gad.

701
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Wend Royer will be a good match. Felix Gill against

702
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:01.039
<v Speaker 3>will be a good match.

703
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's got just It would be lovely to

704
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<v Speaker 1>play Jodan, now you know what I mean, like just

705
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<v Speaker 1>to just to see what all the fuss is about?

706
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<v Speaker 1>Almost a yeah, yes and no, yeah, yeah I'd rather

707
00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:18.880
<v Speaker 1>not I'd rather play me. But you know what I mean,

708
00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:23.079
<v Speaker 1>what's it all about? It could be one of those

709
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:28.920
<v Speaker 1>things where he's not got any grass call experience. This

710
00:40:28.960 --> 00:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>is his first time blah blah blah, and you could

711
00:40:31.039 --> 00:40:33.119
<v Speaker 1>get a good win, you could get like the career win.

712
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah I beat him mate, Yeah yeah.

713
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<v Speaker 3>I mean Phelix is a great combetor and he's had

714
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<v Speaker 3>some matches on grass course. Just what I would say again,

715
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<v Speaker 3>I'll reiterate it. I can't stress enough how the speed

716
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<v Speaker 3>of the grass is not much different to that other

717
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:53.400
<v Speaker 3>hardcore or so it won't be the speed that catches or.

718
00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 2>The height of the ball. It's all very similar. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think there's going to be fewer upsets

720
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<v Speaker 3>at Winwoldon now than there ever was.

721
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which is a shame. And yeah talk about players.

722
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:09.360
<v Speaker 3>I guess for players, they turn up and it's not

723
00:41:09.400 --> 00:41:11.880
<v Speaker 3>that uncomfortable anymore, and you get a better level of

724
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:15.239
<v Speaker 3>tennis all around the year because upsets me.

725
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.639
<v Speaker 2>And someone's having a shocker really most of the time.

726
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, the shocking drawer Toby Samuel against men Sick. I

727
00:41:21.880 --> 00:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>mean like, uh, he's going on to big things, Mensick

728
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 1>and Samuel's playing ever so well and has really rafted

729
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.320
<v Speaker 1>and climbed the ladder and stuff. But yeah, he's gonna

730
00:41:34.360 --> 00:41:36.719
<v Speaker 1>have to play the match of his life. Really, isn't

731
00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:38.159
<v Speaker 1>he to.

732
00:41:37.519 --> 00:41:38.199
<v Speaker 2>To beat him?

733
00:41:38.880 --> 00:41:43.320
<v Speaker 1>But again experienced grass, call player, home crowd, et cetera.

734
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Again, they're not very nudging it around.

735
00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Any of these matches in particular where you're you're thinking, right,

736
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 1>that's the one for me, either in the women's side

737
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>or the men's side. Is there a match, let's both

738
00:41:58.039 --> 00:41:59.480
<v Speaker 1>choose a popcorn match.

739
00:42:00.280 --> 00:42:01.199
<v Speaker 2>Mine's obvious, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I'm going to go dark Ostapenko.

741
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's also a good one.

742
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<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be mine. So I just can't wait. As

743
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:18.519
<v Speaker 1>we said, wimble them fever, it's here. We wait all

744
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>year and it's finally here. So there's plenty more to

745
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<v Speaker 1>come from the words you're talking about Willis Podcast. We're

746
00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.039
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747
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 1>In fact or not, is what you do want and

748
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<v Speaker 1>we're still doing it anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Our payment model is going to be very different to

750
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<v Speaker 3>most people. You actually have to pay us to stop.

751
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00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.000
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<v Speaker 1>Ye can't wait to talk about your mate speech soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Victor baronco on trombone, Sergeant Major Craig Frederick on the

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<v Speaker 3>trumpets and the composition.

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<v Speaker 1>The Army Blues walked back down
