WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.640 --> 00:00:14.279 There are things happening in this world that don't fit 2 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:22.239 neatly into official explanations. And this is Broadcasting Seeds. I'm Benettantan, 3 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:29.719 and here we explore the strange, the suppressed, the biblical, 4 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:35.479 and the paranormal without fear, without hype, and without pretending 5 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:39.399 the unseen doesn't matter. Let's get into. 6 00:00:39.159 --> 00:01:02.679 Its in the minds of. 7 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:09.640 All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Broadcasting Seeds. 8 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:13.319 I am your host, Bennett Tanton, and today we have 9 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:18.560 Justin Doc Brown from the Prometheus Lens podcast. 10 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:20.200 Doc. 11 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:25.439 Probably everyone knows who you are on here, but for 12 00:01:25.519 --> 00:01:28.239 those that don't, tell us who you are and what 13 00:01:28.280 --> 00:01:28.840 you do. 14 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:32.159 All right, thank you for having me back. 15 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:32.400 Man. 16 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:36.359 But yeah, Justin Brown, got got the nickname Doc. That's 17 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:38.120 kind of like my little hand on. It's d O C, 18 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:41.239 not d R. I'm not trying to pose off as 19 00:01:41.280 --> 00:01:45.719 a addy guy. But I did stay at a hotel 20 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:49.040 six last night. Is that how it goes to the hotel? 21 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:53.760 It's a holiday and express, Yes, that's it. 22 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:59.959 I did, wah, but no, I'm just a I Will 23 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:03.760 was a nine to five knuckle dragger factory worker. Uh 24 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:08.639 my entire life. Uh. But grew up Christian and loved 25 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:12.479 history and ancient lost civilizations and all that kind of 26 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:16.199 cool stuff, man, and I just ended up talking about it, 27 00:02:16.199 --> 00:02:20.240 man doing a podcast and it's called Prometheus Lyn's Podcast. 28 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:22.919 Wrote my first book this year as Epica, be Saw, 29 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:26.919 Birthright and Seed War. Uh yeah, there it is, thank you, brother, 30 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:34.240 and uh website Prometheus lynspodcast dot com. Trying to think, uh, 31 00:02:34.360 --> 00:02:36.840 anywhere you can consume the contents, you can find it. Man. 32 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:39.919 But yeah, I just recently hung up the steel toad 33 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:43.479 boots and uh, this is my first week full time. Man, 34 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:46.960 so God has has blessed me. I got my seat 35 00:02:46.960 --> 00:02:48.560 belt on and ready to roll. 36 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:54.360 Congratulations. Man, it's a no, thank you. That's a dive, right, 37 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:59.560 that's a big leap. So that's pretty cool. So the 38 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:06.319 lens now, I mean again, you've been on the show before, 39 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:12.759 but what does Prometheus represent to you? You know, like 40 00:03:12.800 --> 00:03:16.560 everyone knows not everyone, but most people know who and 41 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:21.719 I'll say the who Prometheus is? But what does Prometheus 42 00:03:21.759 --> 00:03:25.360 represent to you? And like what are you trying to 43 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:27.840 help people see through that lens? 44 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:34.080 Literally? Yeah, Well, to me, Prometheus was a very interesting 45 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:40.000 figure and I jumped into Joseph Campbell's Hero of a 46 00:03:40.080 --> 00:03:44.319 Thousand Faces, and he talks about the hero's journey, and 47 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:48.439 a lot of non believers use stuff like Campbell used 48 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:53.080 showing the similarities of the story of Christ throughout the 49 00:03:53.120 --> 00:03:57.000 world as proof that the Bible is bunk and it's 50 00:03:57.039 --> 00:04:00.840 not real. But to me, it just done the opposite. 51 00:04:00.960 --> 00:04:06.280 It reaffirmed my faith because I was like, uh, I'm 52 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:08.319 not one of these, you know, quote unquote Christians that 53 00:04:08.400 --> 00:04:11.280 thinks that God remained silent to all of his creation 54 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:14.159 for thousands of years and then only revealed himself to 55 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:18.360 a small select few people inside the little of the Levant. 56 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:21.519 You know, he made us all, we're all his creations, 57 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.519 so I believe he gave hints of hisself throughout the 58 00:04:24.519 --> 00:04:27.439 world through all these other religions and stories. That way, 59 00:04:28.639 --> 00:04:31.519 when the real deal showed up, they had all the 60 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:35.240 warning signs and uh what they called all the billboards 61 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:38.639 on the highway, you know, uh, wild drug, Wild drug 62 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.120 is coming, Wild drug is coming. So I mean that way, 63 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.680 you knew what was there when you got. 64 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:48.079 There, signed all along the Dagon Road, right. 65 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:50.199 Yeah, yeah, you know it's coming. 66 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.600 Yeah, it's been three hundred miles. 67 00:04:54.319 --> 00:04:57.839 Yeah. So Prometheus when I, you know, kind of got 68 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.079 that perspective and got to looking into this stuff. If 69 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.399 he was a really interesting figure to me because he's 70 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.879 one of the few, if not the only, that I'm 71 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:11.839 aware of, that his character and persona is all based 72 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:17.160 on your perception. On one end, he can be seen as 73 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.959 a christ figure because he is the benefactor of man, 74 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:27.160 he does something to help mankind. He's cast down, and 75 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:33.519 he's also crucified for his deed, his good deed to humanity. 76 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:34.600 Humanity. 77 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:38.720 Yeah, he was nailed to the Caucasus mountains where an 78 00:05:38.759 --> 00:05:41.439 eagle would tear out his liver every single night and 79 00:05:41.480 --> 00:05:43.600 it would regrow so the eagle could feast again the 80 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:47.360 next day. But then on the other hand, he is 81 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:52.519 a Satan figure because he is the divine rebel and 82 00:05:52.639 --> 00:05:55.680 just like Genesis, sixty angels came down pread with the 83 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:58.759 dollars of men and they gave them forbid knowledge with 84 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:04.000 the fire is symbolic for the knowledge. So it's kind 85 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:05.480 of how you look at him. And I thought that 86 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:11.120 was interesting. And the Bible says, my people suffer from 87 00:06:11.199 --> 00:06:16.199 lack of knowledge, and Satan is the prince of the 88 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:18.800 power of the air, the ruler of this world. So 89 00:06:18.920 --> 00:06:22.240 I tell people, if he is the ruler of this world, 90 00:06:22.240 --> 00:06:26.759 and he is this Prometheus figure, then I think it's 91 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:30.639 really important that we have his perspective so that way 92 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:34.240 we are not deceived, you know, know thine enemy, and 93 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:37.759 at the same time use I can't remember, I think 94 00:06:37.759 --> 00:06:40.399 it was Romans, but it said what the devil means 95 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.439 for harm, he turns for the good to all who 96 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:47.920 love him. So let's take that fire. Let's take that 97 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:53.839 knowledge from him and use it for the glory of 98 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:57.279 God and his kingdom, and spread that fire, that knowledge, 99 00:06:57.319 --> 00:07:02.920 that thing that Christ said his people lack. So I 100 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:06.480 just want to have interesting conversations, man, stretch our minds, 101 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:12.399 grow sharpen the swords of the Christians, and at the 102 00:07:12.399 --> 00:07:16.279 same time have interesting conversations that even non Christians would enjoy. 103 00:07:16.920 --> 00:07:20.079 And just like you, sprinkle some seeds, you know, not 104 00:07:20.120 --> 00:07:21.959 beat them over the head with the Bible and preach 105 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:24.279 to them because that always turned me off. And just 106 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:26.600 sprinkle a little bit of seed while I have their attention, 107 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:28.680 and hopefully something will sprout and grow. 108 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:34.839 Yep, that's the point, right, sore. Was there a moment 109 00:07:35.120 --> 00:07:40.279 or like experience that forced forced you to start questioning. 110 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:48.519 I guess we'll call them official narratives or mainstream explanations. 111 00:07:48.720 --> 00:07:54.480 Yeah. Uh, I guess my first experience with that was 112 00:07:54.519 --> 00:07:59.079 probably probably like nine to eleven, you know, when that happened, 113 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:01.959 and seeing all the stuff coming out about that, and 114 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.600 I'm like, oh my gosh, they just blatantly lied to 115 00:08:04.680 --> 00:08:06.560 us and tricked us to trade away. 116 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:11.120 Our to remember that stuff like in a real fashion. 117 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:16.319 A lot of folks aren't. They have no idea so 118 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:17.720 either way. 119 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:21.240 But yeah, I've seen that, and I've always had to 120 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:27.439 trust issues and authority issues anyway. But once once scrolling 121 00:08:27.480 --> 00:08:31.079 through Facebook and YouTube, that's how I stumbled into people 122 00:08:31.199 --> 00:08:34.120 like Trey Smith and Derek Gilbert and all these you know, 123 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:40.159 big brain guys Graham Hancock that had this alternative view 124 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:45.200 of history and of the Bible. And so I already 125 00:08:45.200 --> 00:08:46.840 had that seed from nine to eleven, I'm like, I 126 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:50.360 already know that we were being lied to, manipulated. Yeah, 127 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.320 so let's let's seek this out. And once again, more 128 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.200 often than not, man, when you relook at almost everything, 129 00:08:59.360 --> 00:09:02.360 it's been populated or you've been lied to or being 130 00:09:02.440 --> 00:09:05.360 skewed in the very least. So that's something I say 131 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.840 in the show, it's when I open it up. I'm like, hey, 132 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:14.519 we're going to take the Prometheus lens to re examine everything. Yeah, 133 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:15.320 for sure. 134 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:22.000 I mean so along those lines, you think knowledge is 135 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:25.759 being I mean, we know the answer. I know the answer. 136 00:09:26.440 --> 00:09:30.799 You think knowledge is being deliberately withheld from the public, 137 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:37.799 or at very least distorted until it's useless. M hmm. 138 00:09:38.360 --> 00:09:42.440 Yeah. Do you use a LA's term, it's being obfuscated 139 00:09:43.000 --> 00:09:43.600 from people. 140 00:09:44.000 --> 00:09:45.039 It's a great way to it. 141 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.039 Yeah, every once in a whilest. 142 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:55.159 You know, who do you think benefits most from people 143 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:58.320 staying distracted instead of curious? 144 00:09:59.720 --> 00:10:02.759 Oh, I mean the ones in the powers that be? 145 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.519 You know, it's kind of like, you know, Solomon says, 146 00:10:06.559 --> 00:10:07.639 nothing news under the sun. 147 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:08.399 Yeah. 148 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:11.879 If you look into the Sumerian stories, you know you 149 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:17.879 have basically Inky's world order. And they talk about they 150 00:10:17.919 --> 00:10:20.960 made this race of people just to be dumb slaves. 151 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:24.600 They wanted them smart enough to complete their tasks and 152 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:26.879 serve them do the things they wanted them to do. 153 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:28.919 But that's it. They didn't want them to have any 154 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:34.960 more intellect to question what they're saying or find a 155 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:38.480 better way of life. They just wanted mindless slaves to 156 00:10:38.919 --> 00:10:42.480 do their bidding. Yeah, and I think that's I mean, 157 00:10:42.519 --> 00:10:44.480 nothing news under the sun. That's what we see today 158 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:49.320 with your public school systems, everything at the marketplace, your 159 00:10:49.440 --> 00:10:53.919 your job. We are worker bees for this. You know, 160 00:10:54.759 --> 00:10:57.600 this government and this government is a is a business. 161 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:00.440 You might as well have an LLC after that. USA. 162 00:11:01.480 --> 00:11:04.440 We're the ones that show up and produce the product 163 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:07.360 and bring in the tax revenue. And they give us 164 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:09.720 just enough knowledge to be able to do our tasks, 165 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.919 but hide and obfuscate all their manipulation and things that 166 00:11:13.960 --> 00:11:16.799 they do to keep us, you know, in line with 167 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:19.759 the rules and regulations of the company. 168 00:11:20.480 --> 00:11:22.960 Yeah, no, seriously, I mean we take it back to 169 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:28.960 all the way to you know, the adversary, Satan, whatever 170 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:32.679 you want to call them, and the powers and principalities. 171 00:11:32.879 --> 00:11:36.600 You know, that's who we're fighting at the at the 172 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:41.080 end of the day, it's not I mean, it's those, 173 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:47.519 it's those I'm trying to think of the word. It's 174 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:50.879 those origins that we're fighting against. 175 00:11:51.200 --> 00:11:54.159 In my opinion, it's microcosms, you know, That's what I 176 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:57.320 always used to I think I see that everywhere, especially 177 00:11:57.320 --> 00:12:00.679 like in the Bible. But uh, you have to our Bible. 178 00:12:01.840 --> 00:12:05.639 Everybody just looks at Genesis eleven in that event, But 179 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.039 when you go to Deuteronomy thirty two eight, it says 180 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.759 that not only the people the tongues were divided, but 181 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:15.600 the peoples were divided amongst the benehihlohem, the sons of God. 182 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:18.000 So there you go. That's where you get your rulers 183 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:21.600 or principalities, spiritual wickedness and high places that Paul talks 184 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:24.320 about in that event in Daniel ten where the angels 185 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:27.600 are fighting amongst each other to get to Daniel to 186 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:32.399 deliver the message. So yeah, you have these worldly leaders 187 00:12:32.440 --> 00:12:35.960 trying to you know, run this company like I was 188 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.200 talking about in government world leaders. But then behind the 189 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:44.120 scene is the rulers and principalities, the spiritual wickedness and 190 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:47.799 high places, whispering into the year, pulling the strings of 191 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:51.360 the people. So it's like a microcosm. It's one and 192 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.159 the same, just one's on a physical level and ones 193 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:56.799 in a spiritual level. So it's like the physical is 194 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:00.240 just a shadow of the real, real. 195 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:06.399 Reality, absolutely truth. So in your research, what's one topic 196 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:13.960 that made you say, okay, this changes everything, like just 197 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:14.960 hit you. 198 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:21.279 Hard Honestly, it was a studying for this book, the 199 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:26.159 Epic of Esau. When I got into a serpent seedt theory. Man, 200 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:31.320 that that changed everything, and it made everything in the 201 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:34.279 Bible just connect man, And it made everything make so 202 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.279 much more sense that was ambiguous and didn't make sense before. 203 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:42.200 And I'm sitting here thinking, you know, I'm like, I'm 204 00:13:42.200 --> 00:13:44.440 not the one who discovered serpent seat theory, but there's 205 00:13:44.480 --> 00:13:48.360 only a very small handful of people that ascribed to it. 206 00:13:49.759 --> 00:13:52.879 And I'm like, I'm not a smart guy, you know. 207 00:13:52.919 --> 00:13:55.639 I mean, I'm a C plus average guy. But I 208 00:13:55.759 --> 00:13:59.120 seen these dots and made these connections. How come these 209 00:13:59.120 --> 00:14:02.799 big brain guys ain't doing that? Yeah? And I mean, 210 00:14:02.960 --> 00:14:07.600 I love you know, Gary Wayne, I love La mar Zouli. 211 00:14:08.120 --> 00:14:11.320 All these guys they talk about the seed war, you know, 212 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:14.840 they've been beating on that drum forever. Yeah, And they say, 213 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:17.480 but they won't go this far right, Yeah, but they 214 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:20.639 don't align with it. So it's like I've never asked 215 00:14:20.679 --> 00:14:23.600 them outright, And even if I did, I wouldn't bring 216 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:25.759 it out in public, because of course, if they want 217 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:27.519 to say it, they will say it. But like I 218 00:14:27.639 --> 00:14:32.480 wonder often that if they really believe it, they know it, 219 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.759 but they they don't want to say it out loud. 220 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.240 Because I'm a prime example. You will get black bald, 221 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.320 you will Christians. I don't know why, but that subject 222 00:14:42.360 --> 00:14:44.799 gets people up in arms. They will light their torches 223 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.799 and gather their pitchforks and come after you. And I 224 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:50.960 think it's because it's a spiritual thing. You're you're revealing 225 00:14:51.000 --> 00:14:54.080 the plans of the falling ones and the wicked one, 226 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.279 and they want to shut you down. Yeah, I mean, guys, 227 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.159 I mean we've talked about Genesis, and especially those guys 228 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:04.519 that I mentioned earlier. Genesis six angels came down bread 229 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:06.360 with the dollars, and men made a hybrid race. And 230 00:15:06.399 --> 00:15:11.480 oh yeah, that's the serpent seed. That's not a serpent seed, 231 00:15:12.240 --> 00:15:15.960 that's the other following angels. But when you go back 232 00:15:16.240 --> 00:15:23.080 and propose that the Nakash has a physical seed, just 233 00:15:23.120 --> 00:15:26.080 like God said he did in the beginning, I'll put 234 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:30.960 enity between her seed and thy seed, they get all 235 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:32.879 too at the pieces and be an aye shape. And 236 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:35.919 I'm like, you, guys, already hold to disbelief. You already 237 00:15:35.919 --> 00:15:38.000 believe that angels came down and bred with the dollars 238 00:15:38.000 --> 00:15:40.039 of men in Genesis six, nothing new was under the sun. 239 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:42.759 Why can't you accept this? Why is this so far 240 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:43.679 fetched for you? 241 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:45.960 Yeah? No, I. 242 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:50.080 It's hard to go. 243 00:15:50.159 --> 00:15:53.519 I mean it's not like you're in the company of 244 00:15:53.639 --> 00:15:58.200 like weirdos either. Like there's some legitimate biblical scholars that 245 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.279 believe this too. You've even had him on the show. 246 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:07.679 I've heard you interview them and like, yeah, yeah, I 247 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:14.159 had a theory brought to me the other day. In 248 00:16:14.240 --> 00:16:18.600 the Book of Jubileese. There's is I think it's and 249 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.399 I'm not going to go into the weeds here in 250 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:31.000 my computer, but there's an angel named Gadriel that's talked 251 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:35.120 about in the Book of Jubileese. And part of that 252 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:39.399 description of this angel, it says that he is the 253 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:43.120 one that tempted Eve in the garden. Have you ever 254 00:16:43.120 --> 00:16:43.480 seen this? 255 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:46.480 No, I've missed that. 256 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:50.200 So maybe it's worth it. Maybe you have to edit 257 00:16:50.240 --> 00:16:50.960 a little bit of this. 258 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.919 But yeah, and there's so many others too. Man, It's 259 00:16:54.960 --> 00:16:57.879 like I got this collection of books right here. These 260 00:16:57.879 --> 00:17:02.039 are the writings of Rashi, and he was a Jewish 261 00:17:02.159 --> 00:17:06.440 rabbi and he did translations of the targums in the 262 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:09.880 Old Testament and he'd done commentaries, so that's the five 263 00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:13.720 Books of the Torah, and it's all his breakdown and notes, 264 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:17.119 study notes of the Targums and the five Books of 265 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:21.359 the Torah. And in there he even talks about the 266 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:26.960 the serpent of the Nakash looked at Eve with lust 267 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:32.440 and wanted her for his wife. And there's stories like 268 00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:35.200 even after the Garden, he's caught peeping on her while 269 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:39.119 she's in the river bathing and all this kind of stuff. 270 00:17:39.200 --> 00:17:43.119 And there's the targets of Jonathan come right out and says, 271 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:47.319 the angel of Death, the viper of God, you know, 272 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:50.440 had a child with Eve, and that was Cain. I mean, 273 00:17:50.480 --> 00:17:53.119 it's it's all over the place, man, Okay. 274 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:56.400 So it's actually not Jubileese. It's what even though he's 275 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:59.920 brought up in Jubileese, it's the Book of Enoch identify 276 00:18:00.200 --> 00:18:05.240 the Fallen Watcher angel Gadriel as the specific figure who 277 00:18:05.400 --> 00:18:08.319 led Eve astray in the Garden of Eden, showing her 278 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:13.359 the weapons of death and teaching humanity bloodshed. So there's 279 00:18:13.440 --> 00:18:20.039 either way. It says that Gadriel not was the one 280 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:27.359 that specific figure who led Eve astray, which changes some 281 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:32.480 things too, I mean, and again, you know you have 282 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:36.480 to you just have to use discernment and wonder, you know. 283 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:42.200 And unfortunately, with a lot of books that even just 284 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:44.839 aren't in the Bible, the apocrypha or whatever you want 285 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:46.720 to call them, you have to take some of it 286 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:48.519 with a grain of salt, but some of it you don't. 287 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.920 But it's also gives I feel like it's a license 288 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:54.880 to pick and choose what you believe in what you don't, 289 00:18:55.599 --> 00:19:02.720 and then you get to cherry pick, right. So I've 290 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:05.680 just found that that was wild. Somebody brought that up 291 00:19:05.720 --> 00:19:07.960 to me the other day. I was like, what so, 292 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:12.359 because we were talking about the adversary of who Satan 293 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:16.359 is and what is the name of the adversary? Like 294 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:20.359 if we everyone talks about Satan, But again, Satan is Satan. 295 00:19:20.480 --> 00:19:23.319 Satan's a somewhat of a job title. 296 00:19:23.400 --> 00:19:28.279 And I think semi L when you get into Ginsburg 297 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:31.079 Legends of the Jews, and ye came here for it's 298 00:19:31.160 --> 00:19:33.200 jash or not, but I know it's in Legends of 299 00:19:33.200 --> 00:19:36.519 the Jews they say that the Viper of God, the 300 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:39.720 Angel of Death, was semi L, and that that he 301 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:41.680 was Esole's guardian angel. 302 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.599 Right, And I mean there is in that point too, 303 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:48.079 I think. So it might have been in Jubileese where 304 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:52.559 it actually gives you the hierarchy of the watchers. And 305 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.920 I want to say, like, yeah, it just gave you 306 00:19:55.960 --> 00:19:58.359 like a rundown of who was who, And it talked 307 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:02.119 about the first was blahblah when the samyaza, you know, 308 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:06.400 and then it talks about the tenth was a Zazel 309 00:20:06.559 --> 00:20:10.119 and you know things like that. So who the generals 310 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:11.119 and these folks were. 311 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:14.400 Yeah, and even in Enoch too, if you pay attention 312 00:20:14.519 --> 00:20:17.519 how I said earlier, everybody wants to talk about Genesis 313 00:20:17.559 --> 00:20:20.440 six and they believe in Genesis six angels breeding with men, 314 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:22.960 making hybrid races, but they don't want to go there 315 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.839 with the garden. Yeah, but when you go to Enoch, 316 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:30.359 it pretty much tells you and confirms that because if 317 00:20:30.400 --> 00:20:33.000 you look, there's this little ambiguous passage in there, but 318 00:20:33.039 --> 00:20:36.480 it says about the fallen angels. It says the fallen 319 00:20:36.519 --> 00:20:43.759 angels became subject to the adversary, to the hacaiton, to 320 00:20:43.880 --> 00:20:48.039 nakash yep. So what does that mean? Yeah, it means 321 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:51.920 he gave them an idea, he taught them something. So 322 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:54.359 he's like, because yeah, he did it first. He's like, hey, 323 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.400 you know this thing I did with Eve? You know, hey, yeah, 324 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:01.200 let me show you. And and it goes along with 325 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:04.400 the promise too, because the big promise. What does he 326 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:07.359 say in the garden? He said, when you partake of 327 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:12.319 this tree, ye shall be as God's. Well, what does 328 00:21:12.359 --> 00:21:17.640 God do that none the angelic host can do, or 329 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:24.759 even them at that time? To create life? When they bred, 330 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:29.920 they made life, they made children. He fulfilled his promise, 331 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:32.359 ye shall be as God's. And they couldn't do it 332 00:21:32.400 --> 00:21:35.920 before because if they could, the curses that God gives 333 00:21:35.920 --> 00:21:39.519 wouldn't make sense. You know, if they could reproduce and 334 00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:43.240 have children already, why would God come up and say, 335 00:21:43.720 --> 00:21:49.119 cursed are you for the things you've done? And you 336 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:53.039 will have painful menstruation. I will increase your pain in 337 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:56.920 child bearing. I will put enmity between her seed and 338 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:01.599 thy seed. It's all about sexual reproduction. They cover their 339 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:05.400 sexual reproductive organs when they after they partake of this tree, 340 00:22:05.400 --> 00:22:09.359 and God walks up. So it's like, I think it's 341 00:22:09.400 --> 00:22:12.839 pretty clear man, for those with eyes to see and 342 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:16.160 ears to hear. But it's like most things, He's not 343 00:22:16.240 --> 00:22:18.680 going to spell it out for you. It's there for 344 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:23.359 those who look and read between the lines. Because Proverbs 345 00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:27.200 even Tellsia, it is the glory of God to what 346 00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:33.519 to conceal a thing, but it is the glory of 347 00:22:33.640 --> 00:22:40.559 kings to search things out. Jesus taught in parables. Yeah, 348 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:44.200 he didn't spell it out for him. And even the apostles, 349 00:22:44.279 --> 00:22:45.839 after you get then talking, they'd be like, you know, 350 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:48.960 what were you talking about? And when you explained it, 351 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.000 it was you know, I mean, it was allegory. You 352 00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:54.680 had to dive in and pick it apart. And he said, 353 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.359 I speak to them in the allegories, because to them 354 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.720 the mysteries have not been given. But the mysteries have 355 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.799 been given to you. And you still ask ask me, rabbi, Rabbi. 356 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:11.400 Yeah, hm. So do you believe along the same line 357 00:23:11.440 --> 00:23:14.400 of question here, do you believe there are truths that 358 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:19.160 humans aren't meant to access or just truths that were 359 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:22.960 discouraged from touching? 360 00:23:26.240 --> 00:23:29.240 Mm hmm. I think that there is some that we're 361 00:23:29.279 --> 00:23:33.920 not supposed to have because the whole Genesis six thing, 362 00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:38.880 you know, it says that we were given forbidden knowledge 363 00:23:39.880 --> 00:23:43.799 and corrupt Yes, yeah, humanity ultimately enough to where they 364 00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:46.559 had to hit that reset button. But I do believe 365 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:49.599 there's some that is discouraged too. Uh you know, do 366 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:54.359 not seek necromancers and sorcerers. H But people do it 367 00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:56.519 all the time. But when they do, you know, they 368 00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:00.920 have those spiritual repercussions afterwards. And you know a lot 369 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:02.400 of people want to look at God and be like, oh, 370 00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:05.240 he's a tyrant, he's you know this, don't do this, 371 00:24:05.319 --> 00:24:07.400 don't do that. It's a lot of don'ts, don't don't don'ts. 372 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:10.799 And as a child, you look at all your rules 373 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:13.000 and don'ts that your parents say you can't do, You're like, oh, 374 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.480 they're mean, they're stupid, they don't know what they're talking about. 375 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:17.880 They're just mean. They don't want me to have fun. 376 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.599 That's a child's mentality. But then when you get older 377 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.119 and you look back, you're like, now, all those were 378 00:24:24.119 --> 00:24:28.759 there to protect me because they loved me, and your 379 00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.200 heavenly father is no different in my mind. 380 00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:35.319 Yeah, that's a good point. 381 00:24:36.119 --> 00:24:36.519 Mm hmm. 382 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.920 I mean, so do you see history as linear or cyclical? 383 00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:43.960 Like? If no, cyclical? 384 00:24:44.279 --> 00:24:47.279 Yeah, because if it's cyclical, where do you think we're 385 00:24:47.279 --> 00:24:48.039 at right now? 386 00:24:51.400 --> 00:24:54.559 And here's here's something that I do that it's like 387 00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:58.000 a double edged sword that really Yeah, some people that 388 00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:01.440 really like me and my content, I think for this 389 00:25:01.599 --> 00:25:03.640 reason is why they really liked me. But then on 390 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:06.400 the opposite side, there's so many people that just absolutely 391 00:25:06.519 --> 00:25:08.759 just think I'm a heretic and a false teacher and 392 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:11.000 all this other kind of wild stuff because of this. 393 00:25:11.839 --> 00:25:15.400 But I am a Christian. I believe the Bible is 394 00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:19.359 the divine inspired Word of God. But when I say that, 395 00:25:19.720 --> 00:25:21.759 there's a lot of Christians that look at that like 396 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:26.599 occult automatic writing, like you know, the spirit of God 397 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:28.680 took them over and their eyes rolled back in their 398 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:32.240 head and they wrote it all down and it's perfect, 399 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.319 preserved for all time, never corrupted, because it's the divine 400 00:25:35.359 --> 00:25:38.039 inspired word of God. I'm not one of those. The 401 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:43.119