Speaker 1: There are things happening in this world that don't fit
Speaker 1: neatly into official explanations. And this is Broadcasting Seeds. I'm Benettantan,
Speaker 1: and here we explore the strange, the suppressed, the biblical,
Speaker 1: and the paranormal without fear, without hype, and without pretending
Speaker 1: the unseen doesn't matter. Let's get into.
Speaker 2: Its in the minds of.
Speaker 1: All right, everybody, welcome back to another episode of Broadcasting Seeds.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Bennett Tanton, and today we have
Speaker 1: Justin Doc Brown from the Prometheus Lens podcast.
Speaker 3: Doc.
Speaker 1: Probably everyone knows who you are on here, but for
Speaker 1: those that don't, tell us who you are and what
Speaker 1: you do.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you for having me back.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: But yeah, Justin Brown, got got the nickname Doc. That's
Speaker 3: kind of like my little hand on. It's d O C,
Speaker 3: not d R. I'm not trying to pose off as
Speaker 3: a addy guy. But I did stay at a hotel
Speaker 3: six last night. Is that how it goes to the hotel?
Speaker 1: It's a holiday and express, Yes, that's it.
Speaker 3: I did, wah, but no, I'm just a I Will
Speaker 3: was a nine to five knuckle dragger factory worker. Uh
Speaker 3: my entire life. Uh. But grew up Christian and loved
Speaker 3: history and ancient lost civilizations and all that kind of
Speaker 3: cool stuff, man, and I just ended up talking about it,
Speaker 3: man doing a podcast and it's called Prometheus Lyn's Podcast.
Speaker 3: Wrote my first book this year as Epica, be Saw,
Speaker 3: Birthright and Seed War. Uh yeah, there it is, thank you, brother,
Speaker 3: and uh website Prometheus lynspodcast dot com. Trying to think, uh,
Speaker 3: anywhere you can consume the contents, you can find it. Man.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just recently hung up the steel toad
Speaker 3: boots and uh, this is my first week full time. Man,
Speaker 3: so God has has blessed me. I got my seat
Speaker 3: belt on and ready to roll.
Speaker 1: Congratulations. Man, it's a no, thank you. That's a dive, right,
Speaker 1: that's a big leap. So that's pretty cool. So the
Speaker 1: lens now, I mean again, you've been on the show before,
Speaker 1: but what does Prometheus represent to you? You know, like
Speaker 1: everyone knows not everyone, but most people know who and
Speaker 1: I'll say the who Prometheus is? But what does Prometheus
Speaker 1: represent to you? And like what are you trying to
Speaker 1: help people see through that lens?
Speaker 3: Literally? Yeah, Well, to me, Prometheus was a very interesting
Speaker 3: figure and I jumped into Joseph Campbell's Hero of a
Speaker 3: Thousand Faces, and he talks about the hero's journey, and
Speaker 3: a lot of non believers use stuff like Campbell used
Speaker 3: showing the similarities of the story of Christ throughout the
Speaker 3: world as proof that the Bible is bunk and it's
Speaker 3: not real. But to me, it just done the opposite.
Speaker 3: It reaffirmed my faith because I was like, uh, I'm
Speaker 3: not one of these, you know, quote unquote Christians that
Speaker 3: thinks that God remained silent to all of his creation
Speaker 3: for thousands of years and then only revealed himself to
Speaker 3: a small select few people inside the little of the Levant.
Speaker 3: You know, he made us all, we're all his creations,
Speaker 3: so I believe he gave hints of hisself throughout the
Speaker 3: world through all these other religions and stories. That way,
Speaker 3: when the real deal showed up, they had all the
Speaker 3: warning signs and uh what they called all the billboards
Speaker 3: on the highway, you know, uh, wild drug, Wild drug
Speaker 3: is coming, Wild drug is coming. So I mean that way,
Speaker 3: you knew what was there when you got.
Speaker 1: There, signed all along the Dagon Road, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know it's coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been three hundred miles.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So Prometheus when I, you know, kind of got
Speaker 3: that perspective and got to looking into this stuff. If
Speaker 3: he was a really interesting figure to me because he's
Speaker 3: one of the few, if not the only, that I'm
Speaker 3: aware of, that his character and persona is all based
Speaker 3: on your perception. On one end, he can be seen as
Speaker 3: a christ figure because he is the benefactor of man,
Speaker 3: he does something to help mankind. He's cast down, and
Speaker 3: he's also crucified for his deed, his good deed to humanity.
Speaker 1: Humanity.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was nailed to the Caucasus mountains where an
Speaker 3: eagle would tear out his liver every single night and
Speaker 3: it would regrow so the eagle could feast again the
Speaker 3: next day. But then on the other hand, he is
Speaker 3: a Satan figure because he is the divine rebel and
Speaker 3: just like Genesis, sixty angels came down pread with the
Speaker 3: dollars of men and they gave them forbid knowledge with
Speaker 3: the fire is symbolic for the knowledge. So it's kind
Speaker 3: of how you look at him. And I thought that
Speaker 3: was interesting. And the Bible says, my people suffer from
Speaker 3: lack of knowledge, and Satan is the prince of the
Speaker 3: power of the air, the ruler of this world. So
Speaker 3: I tell people, if he is the ruler of this world,
Speaker 3: and he is this Prometheus figure, then I think it's
Speaker 3: really important that we have his perspective so that way
Speaker 3: we are not deceived, you know, know thine enemy, and
Speaker 3: at the same time use I can't remember, I think
Speaker 3: it was Romans, but it said what the devil means
Speaker 3: for harm, he turns for the good to all who
Speaker 3: love him. So let's take that fire. Let's take that
Speaker 3: knowledge from him and use it for the glory of
Speaker 3: God and his kingdom, and spread that fire, that knowledge,
Speaker 3: that thing that Christ said his people lack. So I
Speaker 3: just want to have interesting conversations, man, stretch our minds,
Speaker 3: grow sharpen the swords of the Christians, and at the
Speaker 3: same time have interesting conversations that even non Christians would enjoy.
Speaker 3: And just like you, sprinkle some seeds, you know, not
Speaker 3: beat them over the head with the Bible and preach
Speaker 3: to them because that always turned me off. And just
Speaker 3: sprinkle a little bit of seed while I have their attention,
Speaker 3: and hopefully something will sprout and grow.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's the point, right, sore. Was there a moment
Speaker 1: or like experience that forced forced you to start questioning.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll call them official narratives or mainstream explanations.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Uh, I guess my first experience with that was
Speaker 3: probably probably like nine to eleven, you know, when that happened,
Speaker 3: and seeing all the stuff coming out about that, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, they just blatantly lied to
Speaker 3: us and tricked us to trade away.
Speaker 1: Our to remember that stuff like in a real fashion.
Speaker 1: A lot of folks aren't. They have no idea so
Speaker 1: either way.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I've seen that, and I've always had to
Speaker 3: trust issues and authority issues anyway. But once once scrolling
Speaker 3: through Facebook and YouTube, that's how I stumbled into people
Speaker 3: like Trey Smith and Derek Gilbert and all these you know,
Speaker 3: big brain guys Graham Hancock that had this alternative view
Speaker 3: of history and of the Bible. And so I already
Speaker 3: had that seed from nine to eleven, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: already know that we were being lied to, manipulated. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so let's let's seek this out. And once again, more
Speaker 3: often than not, man, when you relook at almost everything,
Speaker 3: it's been populated or you've been lied to or being
Speaker 3: skewed in the very least. So that's something I say
Speaker 3: in the show, it's when I open it up. I'm like, hey,
Speaker 3: we're going to take the Prometheus lens to re examine everything. Yeah,
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean so along those lines, you think knowledge is
Speaker 1: being I mean, we know the answer. I know the answer.
Speaker 1: You think knowledge is being deliberately withheld from the public,
Speaker 1: or at very least distorted until it's useless. M hmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Do you use a LA's term, it's being obfuscated
Speaker 3: from people.
Speaker 1: It's a great way to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every once in a whilest.
Speaker 1: You know, who do you think benefits most from people
Speaker 1: staying distracted instead of curious?
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean the ones in the powers that be?
Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of like, you know, Solomon says,
Speaker 3: nothing news under the sun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: If you look into the Sumerian stories, you know you
Speaker 3: have basically Inky's world order. And they talk about they
Speaker 3: made this race of people just to be dumb slaves.
Speaker 3: They wanted them smart enough to complete their tasks and
Speaker 3: serve them do the things they wanted them to do.
Speaker 3: But that's it. They didn't want them to have any
Speaker 3: more intellect to question what they're saying or find a
Speaker 3: better way of life. They just wanted mindless slaves to
Speaker 3: do their bidding. Yeah, and I think that's I mean,
Speaker 3: nothing news under the sun. That's what we see today
Speaker 3: with your public school systems, everything at the marketplace, your
Speaker 3: your job. We are worker bees for this. You know,
Speaker 3: this government and this government is a is a business.
Speaker 3: You might as well have an LLC after that. USA.
Speaker 3: We're the ones that show up and produce the product
Speaker 3: and bring in the tax revenue. And they give us
Speaker 3: just enough knowledge to be able to do our tasks,
Speaker 3: but hide and obfuscate all their manipulation and things that
Speaker 3: they do to keep us, you know, in line with
Speaker 3: the rules and regulations of the company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, seriously, I mean we take it back to
Speaker 1: all the way to you know, the adversary, Satan, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call them, and the powers and principalities.
Speaker 1: You know, that's who we're fighting at the at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it's not I mean, it's those,
Speaker 1: it's those I'm trying to think of the word. It's
Speaker 1: those origins that we're fighting against.
Speaker 3: In my opinion, it's microcosms, you know, That's what I
Speaker 3: always used to I think I see that everywhere, especially
Speaker 3: like in the Bible. But uh, you have to our Bible.
Speaker 3: Everybody just looks at Genesis eleven in that event, But
Speaker 3: when you go to Deuteronomy thirty two eight, it says
Speaker 3: that not only the people the tongues were divided, but
Speaker 3: the peoples were divided amongst the benehihlohem, the sons of God.
Speaker 3: So there you go. That's where you get your rulers
Speaker 3: or principalities, spiritual wickedness and high places that Paul talks
Speaker 3: about in that event in Daniel ten where the angels
Speaker 3: are fighting amongst each other to get to Daniel to
Speaker 3: deliver the message. So yeah, you have these worldly leaders
Speaker 3: trying to you know, run this company like I was
Speaker 3: talking about in government world leaders. But then behind the
Speaker 3: scene is the rulers and principalities, the spiritual wickedness and
Speaker 3: high places, whispering into the year, pulling the strings of
Speaker 3: the people. So it's like a microcosm. It's one and
Speaker 3: the same, just one's on a physical level and ones
Speaker 3: in a spiritual level. So it's like the physical is
Speaker 3: just a shadow of the real, real.
Speaker 1: Reality, absolutely truth. So in your research, what's one topic
Speaker 1: that made you say, okay, this changes everything, like just
Speaker 1: hit you.
Speaker 3: Hard Honestly, it was a studying for this book, the
Speaker 3: Epic of Esau. When I got into a serpent seedt theory. Man,
Speaker 3: that that changed everything, and it made everything in the
Speaker 3: Bible just connect man, And it made everything make so
Speaker 3: much more sense that was ambiguous and didn't make sense before.
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting here thinking, you know, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: not the one who discovered serpent seat theory, but there's
Speaker 3: only a very small handful of people that ascribed to it.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm not a smart guy, you know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a C plus average guy. But I
Speaker 3: seen these dots and made these connections. How come these
Speaker 3: big brain guys ain't doing that? Yeah? And I mean,
Speaker 3: I love you know, Gary Wayne, I love La mar Zouli.
Speaker 3: All these guys they talk about the seed war, you know,
Speaker 3: they've been beating on that drum forever. Yeah, And they say,
Speaker 3: but they won't go this far right, Yeah, but they
Speaker 3: don't align with it. So it's like I've never asked
Speaker 3: them outright, And even if I did, I wouldn't bring
Speaker 3: it out in public, because of course, if they want
Speaker 3: to say it, they will say it. But like I
Speaker 3: wonder often that if they really believe it, they know it,
Speaker 3: but they they don't want to say it out loud.
Speaker 3: Because I'm a prime example. You will get black bald,
Speaker 3: you will Christians. I don't know why, but that subject
Speaker 3: gets people up in arms. They will light their torches
Speaker 3: and gather their pitchforks and come after you. And I
Speaker 3: think it's because it's a spiritual thing. You're you're revealing
Speaker 3: the plans of the falling ones and the wicked one,
Speaker 3: and they want to shut you down. Yeah, I mean, guys,
Speaker 3: I mean we've talked about Genesis, and especially those guys
Speaker 3: that I mentioned earlier. Genesis six angels came down bread
Speaker 3: with the dollars, and men made a hybrid race. And
Speaker 3: oh yeah, that's the serpent seed. That's not a serpent seed,
Speaker 3: that's the other following angels. But when you go back
Speaker 3: and propose that the Nakash has a physical seed, just
Speaker 3: like God said he did in the beginning, I'll put
Speaker 3: enity between her seed and thy seed, they get all
Speaker 3: too at the pieces and be an aye shape. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, you, guys, already hold to disbelief. You already
Speaker 3: believe that angels came down and bred with the dollars
Speaker 3: of men in Genesis six, nothing new was under the sun.
Speaker 3: Why can't you accept this? Why is this so far
Speaker 3: fetched for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I.
Speaker 3: It's hard to go.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like you're in the company of
Speaker 1: like weirdos either. Like there's some legitimate biblical scholars that
Speaker 1: believe this too. You've even had him on the show.
Speaker 1: I've heard you interview them and like, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: had a theory brought to me the other day. In
Speaker 1: the Book of Jubileese. There's is I think it's and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into the weeds here in
Speaker 1: my computer, but there's an angel named Gadriel that's talked
Speaker 1: about in the Book of Jubileese. And part of that
Speaker 1: description of this angel, it says that he is the
Speaker 1: one that tempted Eve in the garden. Have you ever
Speaker 1: seen this?
Speaker 3: No, I've missed that.
Speaker 1: So maybe it's worth it. Maybe you have to edit
Speaker 1: a little bit of this.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and there's so many others too. Man, It's
Speaker 3: like I got this collection of books right here. These
Speaker 3: are the writings of Rashi, and he was a Jewish
Speaker 3: rabbi and he did translations of the targums in the
Speaker 3: Old Testament and he'd done commentaries, so that's the five
Speaker 3: Books of the Torah, and it's all his breakdown and notes,
Speaker 3: study notes of the Targums and the five Books of
Speaker 3: the Torah. And in there he even talks about the
Speaker 3: the serpent of the Nakash looked at Eve with lust
Speaker 3: and wanted her for his wife. And there's stories like
Speaker 3: even after the Garden, he's caught peeping on her while
Speaker 3: she's in the river bathing and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: And there's the targets of Jonathan come right out and says,
Speaker 3: the angel of Death, the viper of God, you know,
Speaker 3: had a child with Eve, and that was Cain. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's it's all over the place, man, Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's actually not Jubileese. It's what even though he's
Speaker 1: brought up in Jubileese, it's the Book of Enoch identify
Speaker 1: the Fallen Watcher angel Gadriel as the specific figure who
Speaker 1: led Eve astray in the Garden of Eden, showing her
Speaker 1: the weapons of death and teaching humanity bloodshed. So there's
Speaker 1: either way. It says that Gadriel not was the one
Speaker 1: that specific figure who led Eve astray, which changes some
Speaker 1: things too, I mean, and again, you know you have
Speaker 1: to you just have to use discernment and wonder, you know.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately, with a lot of books that even just
Speaker 1: aren't in the Bible, the apocrypha or whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call them, you have to take some of it
Speaker 1: with a grain of salt, but some of it you don't.
Speaker 1: But it's also gives I feel like it's a license
Speaker 1: to pick and choose what you believe in what you don't,
Speaker 1: and then you get to cherry pick, right. So I've
Speaker 1: just found that that was wild. Somebody brought that up
Speaker 1: to me the other day. I was like, what so,
Speaker 1: because we were talking about the adversary of who Satan
Speaker 1: is and what is the name of the adversary? Like
Speaker 1: if we everyone talks about Satan, But again, Satan is Satan.
Speaker 1: Satan's a somewhat of a job title.
Speaker 3: And I think semi L when you get into Ginsburg
Speaker 3: Legends of the Jews, and ye came here for it's
Speaker 3: jash or not, but I know it's in Legends of
Speaker 3: the Jews they say that the Viper of God, the
Speaker 3: Angel of Death, was semi L, and that that he
Speaker 3: was Esole's guardian angel.
Speaker 1: Right, And I mean there is in that point too,
Speaker 1: I think. So it might have been in Jubileese where
Speaker 1: it actually gives you the hierarchy of the watchers. And
Speaker 1: I want to say, like, yeah, it just gave you
Speaker 1: like a rundown of who was who, And it talked
Speaker 1: about the first was blahblah when the samyaza, you know,
Speaker 1: and then it talks about the tenth was a Zazel
Speaker 1: and you know things like that. So who the generals
Speaker 1: and these folks were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even in Enoch too, if you pay attention
Speaker 3: how I said earlier, everybody wants to talk about Genesis
Speaker 3: six and they believe in Genesis six angels breeding with men,
Speaker 3: making hybrid races, but they don't want to go there
Speaker 3: with the garden. Yeah, but when you go to Enoch,
Speaker 3: it pretty much tells you and confirms that because if
Speaker 3: you look, there's this little ambiguous passage in there, but
Speaker 3: it says about the fallen angels. It says the fallen
Speaker 3: angels became subject to the adversary, to the hacaiton, to
Speaker 3: nakash yep. So what does that mean? Yeah, it means
Speaker 3: he gave them an idea, he taught them something. So
Speaker 3: he's like, because yeah, he did it first. He's like, hey,
Speaker 3: you know this thing I did with Eve? You know, hey, yeah,
Speaker 3: let me show you. And and it goes along with
Speaker 3: the promise too, because the big promise. What does he
Speaker 3: say in the garden? He said, when you partake of
Speaker 3: this tree, ye shall be as God's. Well, what does
Speaker 3: God do that none the angelic host can do, or
Speaker 3: even them at that time? To create life? When they bred,
Speaker 3: they made life, they made children. He fulfilled his promise,
Speaker 3: ye shall be as God's. And they couldn't do it
Speaker 3: before because if they could, the curses that God gives
Speaker 3: wouldn't make sense. You know, if they could reproduce and
Speaker 3: have children already, why would God come up and say,
Speaker 3: cursed are you for the things you've done? And you
Speaker 3: will have painful menstruation. I will increase your pain in
Speaker 3: child bearing. I will put enmity between her seed and
Speaker 3: thy seed. It's all about sexual reproduction. They cover their
Speaker 3: sexual reproductive organs when they after they partake of this tree,
Speaker 3: and God walks up. So it's like, I think it's
Speaker 3: pretty clear man, for those with eyes to see and
Speaker 3: ears to hear. But it's like most things, He's not
Speaker 3: going to spell it out for you. It's there for
Speaker 3: those who look and read between the lines. Because Proverbs
Speaker 3: even Tellsia, it is the glory of God to what
Speaker 3: to conceal a thing, but it is the glory of
Speaker 3: kings to search things out. Jesus taught in parables. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he didn't spell it out for him. And even the apostles,
Speaker 3: after you get then talking, they'd be like, you know,
Speaker 3: what were you talking about? And when you explained it,
Speaker 3: it was you know, I mean, it was allegory. You
Speaker 3: had to dive in and pick it apart. And he said,
Speaker 3: I speak to them in the allegories, because to them
Speaker 3: the mysteries have not been given. But the mysteries have
Speaker 3: been given to you. And you still ask ask me, rabbi, Rabbi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hm. So do you believe along the same line
Speaker 1: of question here, do you believe there are truths that
Speaker 1: humans aren't meant to access or just truths that were
Speaker 1: discouraged from touching?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I think that there is some that we're
Speaker 3: not supposed to have because the whole Genesis six thing,
Speaker 3: you know, it says that we were given forbidden knowledge
Speaker 3: and corrupt Yes, yeah, humanity ultimately enough to where they
Speaker 3: had to hit that reset button. But I do believe
Speaker 3: there's some that is discouraged too. Uh you know, do
Speaker 3: not seek necromancers and sorcerers. H But people do it
Speaker 3: all the time. But when they do, you know, they
Speaker 3: have those spiritual repercussions afterwards. And you know a lot
Speaker 3: of people want to look at God and be like, oh,
Speaker 3: he's a tyrant, he's you know this, don't do this,
Speaker 3: don't do that. It's a lot of don'ts, don't don't don'ts.
Speaker 3: And as a child, you look at all your rules
Speaker 3: and don'ts that your parents say you can't do, You're like, oh,
Speaker 3: they're mean, they're stupid, they don't know what they're talking about.
Speaker 3: They're just mean. They don't want me to have fun.
Speaker 3: That's a child's mentality. But then when you get older
Speaker 3: and you look back, you're like, now, all those were
Speaker 3: there to protect me because they loved me, and your
Speaker 3: heavenly father is no different in my mind.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I mean, so do you see history as linear or cyclical?
Speaker 3: Like? If no, cyclical?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because if it's cyclical, where do you think we're
Speaker 1: at right now?
Speaker 3: And here's here's something that I do that it's like
Speaker 3: a double edged sword that really Yeah, some people that
Speaker 3: really like me and my content, I think for this
Speaker 3: reason is why they really liked me. But then on
Speaker 3: the opposite side, there's so many people that just absolutely
Speaker 3: just think I'm a heretic and a false teacher and
Speaker 3: all this other kind of wild stuff because of this.
Speaker 3: But I am a Christian. I believe the Bible is
Speaker 3: the divine inspired Word of God. But when I say that,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of Christians that look at that like
Speaker 3: occult automatic writing, like you know, the spirit of God
Speaker 3: took them over and their eyes rolled back in their
Speaker 3: head and they wrote it all down and it's perfect,
Speaker 3: preserved for all time, never corrupted, because it's the divine
Speaker 3: inspired word of God. I'm not one of those. The
Speaker 3: Bible speaks out staunchly against that type of stuff. So
Speaker 3: I think, just like Daniel, he got dreams and visions,
Speaker 3: he interpreted those dreams and visions, and if he had
Speaker 3: issue or trouble and he couldn't figure it out, then
Speaker 3: he asked and prayed for help. So God reveals himself
Speaker 3: through mankind and mankind herprits and writes, Yeah, there's so
Speaker 3: many yeah, examples of this mm hmmm, And so I
Speaker 3: look at that that that way. So with that being said,
Speaker 3: there's plenty of things in history that happened that we
Speaker 3: know happened from physical evidence and archaeology and other testimonies
Speaker 3: that are not in the Bible. Yeah. So just because
Speaker 3: it's you know, something is not in the Bible does
Speaker 3: not automatically think make it a lie, not true. Because
Speaker 3: there's a lot of Christians that have that mentality.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: So I look at other like you talk about what rhymes.
Speaker 3: I've heard you say that, and I've stole it from you, brother. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So I look at the other stories and see what rhymes.
Speaker 3: So when I hear the same story throughout all these
Speaker 3: different cultures that just maybe the names have changed or
Speaker 3: just a little bit of you know, tweaking on it,
Speaker 3: I think there's something to that. And it stems from
Speaker 3: an ancient point of origin. So one common theme far
Speaker 3: as the you know, time being cyclicer or how you
Speaker 3: ever said cyclicer, how do you say that? That's killing me? Now? Yep,
Speaker 3: that word.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: When you look at all the other religions and customs
Speaker 3: and stuff, they talk about time that way. And I
Speaker 3: don't know how many you know, the Indians, the Aztecs,
Speaker 3: the Maya, the Hindu uh, just everybody pretty much talks
Speaker 3: about uh like we're in the fourth world or the
Speaker 3: fifth world. Uh. First it was destroyed with with floods
Speaker 3: like twice or something like that, and then they go
Speaker 3: on down. But the final world is supposed to be
Speaker 3: destroyed by fire. That's that's revelation, folks. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: our Bible. So we just covered this last cycle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and we just covered this last cycle. They kept records
Speaker 3: and kept all the other cycles too, So I think
Speaker 3: that's how it works. Man. There's there's just many great resets.
Speaker 3: After so long, God gets fed up and hits that
Speaker 3: restart button again.
Speaker 1: We're talking about worldview, right, yeah, so we we you know,
Speaker 1: have a tendency to a bunch of us at least
Speaker 1: that are that we all know are a deuterotomy thirty
Speaker 1: two kind of worldview. Right, at least that's what we'll say,
Speaker 1: we'll put that label on. But when I mean, when
Speaker 1: I'm saying worldview in this aspect, I mean you're talking
Speaker 1: about people that were given a vision from God to
Speaker 1: write down whatever they wrote okay in their world, in
Speaker 1: their realm Okay, they didn't know coxt I mean yes,
Speaker 1: in their context, and no matter what people want to
Speaker 1: believe or whatnot. It would be just like somebody you
Speaker 1: living in Tennessee getting words from something, a god, a
Speaker 1: whatever entity you writing it down, okay, from your in
Speaker 1: your context of Tennessee and the United States of America.
Speaker 1: But what if the same word was given to somebody
Speaker 1: in Taiwan or Hong Kong, China and their worldview and
Speaker 1: their how they perceive things, and their reality is different
Speaker 1: than your reality. So this is what I mean by
Speaker 1: the things rhyme. It doesn't mean that they're evil. It
Speaker 1: just means that they have a different story in what
Speaker 1: we need to do. It's just like when we talk
Speaker 1: to each other we need to find Instead of finding
Speaker 1: all the discrepancies, if we spend time finding all the
Speaker 1: spots where we connect, we would all love each other.
Speaker 1: That to me is the true word of God, Jesus,
Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit, all of it. Instead where taking a
Speaker 1: I like movies. I know you do too, but it's
Speaker 1: taking the words from Edward Longshanks from uh the movie
Speaker 1: Highlander was not Highlander? What is it William Wallace, the one,
Speaker 1: the one with the oh, brave heart, brave heart, where
Speaker 1: they're all taking from the scraps from long Shanks table
Speaker 1: instead of us working that way in the what we
Speaker 1: do in our ministry. We need to empower ourselves and
Speaker 1: look at where we combine, not at where we necessarily divert.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to get on a that just
Speaker 1: sent me down kind of on a on a soapbox there,
Speaker 1: Sorry about that.
Speaker 3: No, you're good. And that's the thing too. I think,
Speaker 3: you know, God talks about uh, you know, only doctor
Speaker 3: the children will inherit the Kingdom of God. I think
Speaker 3: what he means by as childlike innocence and ah and wonder. Yes,
Speaker 3: if you're you know, and you have great imagination, there
Speaker 3: is no limits, you know. So I love how Mike
Speaker 3: Kaiser talks about you need to read your Bible like
Speaker 3: it's fiction. He said. I'm not saying it is fiction,
Speaker 3: he said, but I'm saying you need to read it
Speaker 3: as if it were. Yeah, he said, because when you
Speaker 3: do that, you're you're reading it with childlike eyes and
Speaker 3: childlike wonder. You've you've gotten rid of the rules of
Speaker 3: the world and what you think you know, you accept
Speaker 3: what's there as is he said, And that's how you're
Speaker 3: going to receive the word and understand it better if
Speaker 3: you approach it that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would make the best movie ever made.
Speaker 1: The best set of movies ever made would be the
Speaker 1: especially the Old Testament, but the New Testament too. I mean,
Speaker 1: could you imagine turning that into a movie? It would
Speaker 1: be And I'm and I'm convinced that the reason that
Speaker 1: they don't turn it into a movie is because people
Speaker 1: would start to be like, oh, that's what the Bible
Speaker 1: says mm hmm. To keep us dumb, so just saying they,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: They whoever they be. Uh. But that's one thing too,
Speaker 3: is I try to tell people I'm a very curious person,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I'm not some genius, but I
Speaker 3: mean I'm I'm a fairly fart smeller, I mean, smart failer,
Speaker 3: and I like looking into this stuff. And but I
Speaker 3: come in with a bucket load of humility. I know,
Speaker 3: I have more questions than I have answers, and I
Speaker 3: come in humble that I know nothing. With that child
Speaker 3: like wonder and curiosity, I have a blank slate. Lay
Speaker 3: it on me and I'm ready to learn. But there's
Speaker 3: a lot of people have this really puffed up pride.
Speaker 3: You know, they got it all figured out, they know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And my pastor told me x y Z for twenty
Speaker 3: years and I believe it. I can't tell you why
Speaker 3: I believe it. But you're just wrong, and I'm right.
Speaker 3: You're a false prophet, false teacher because you don't agree
Speaker 3: with me. Those people are never going to learn anything.
Speaker 3: You know. Christ talks about you know, he takes the
Speaker 3: how's it worded in proverbs? You see, he takes the
Speaker 3: fool to confound the wise, you know, and that the
Speaker 3: first would be the last. That these people that are
Speaker 3: so haughty and think they got it all figured out,
Speaker 3: they're the dummies, are the ones not learning anything new
Speaker 3: because they think they got it all figured out. Man,
Speaker 3: the humble that come in and be like, man, I'm stupid,
Speaker 3: Please teach me. He's going to show you things. He
Speaker 3: ain't gonna show something to somebody that's puffed up in
Speaker 3: their pride and think they got it all figured out
Speaker 3: and they're so smart.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, true story for sure. So you know, we
Speaker 1: live in a crazy time with especially with like technology.
Speaker 1: How do you see technology shaping human consciousness for better
Speaker 1: or worse.
Speaker 3: I just look at it as like a hammer. It's
Speaker 3: a tool. You can take a hammer. Yeah, you can
Speaker 3: bust up an entire house and destroy everything with the hammer,
Speaker 3: But with the in the hands of the right person,
Speaker 3: they can build a beautiful house. So it's all on
Speaker 3: who's holding the tool determines the value, how much it's worth,
Speaker 3: and what they can do with it. So on one hand,
Speaker 3: I think it's making people a lot more stupid and dumber.
Speaker 3: They don't have to read a book anymore. They can
Speaker 3: just go to chat jeep and type it in and
Speaker 3: don't don't even cross reference chat GPT, just whatever it says,
Speaker 3: it's the gospel, it's the truth. So therefore they get
Speaker 3: you dependent on this thing. And how easy would it
Speaker 3: be that, you know, they give you the right answers
Speaker 3: at first, but then they realize how dependent you are
Speaker 3: on this thing, So then they start feeding you false
Speaker 3: information and narratives to shape your worldview into the way
Speaker 3: they want you to think. And they didn't studies. It's
Speaker 3: like since AI and chat GPT and all that stuff's
Speaker 3: come out, Uh, the national average or global average of
Speaker 3: people's IQ have dropped significantly because instead of just using
Speaker 3: this tool, they are relying tool on this tool, and
Speaker 3: it's making people dumber. But on the other hand, it's, uh,
Speaker 3: there's people like me and you that use AI to
Speaker 3: help us make you know, thumbnail artwork, to get people
Speaker 3: to watch our show and spread some seeds. We use
Speaker 3: AI to uh make reels to get people's attention to
Speaker 3: talk about these subjects that we think that are being
Speaker 3: neglected and that people need to be educated on. So
Speaker 3: there's all kinds of you know, good things that you
Speaker 3: can use it for too, But you I think we
Speaker 3: have to use it, not be dependent on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed. So yeah, I'm a national well I guess
Speaker 1: in a former life, but I still kind of do
Speaker 1: it now. I have to dabble in it now because
Speaker 1: of my my one of my jobs. I'm a national
Speaker 1: security professional, I guess, is what i'd say. So I
Speaker 1: get into stuff like modern surveillance and whatnot. So would
Speaker 1: you say things like modern surveillance because you bring up AI,
Speaker 1: you bring up you know that we're we're on camera
Speaker 1: almost everywhere we're at, butN surveillance is more about control
Speaker 1: or about conditioning. Just your opinion, I.
Speaker 3: Think both man. Number One, it conditions you to be
Speaker 3: a role model citizen because you know you're being watched.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: You're gonna be on your best behavior when you know
Speaker 3: you're being watched. Because what they say, when when the
Speaker 3: father's away, the kids will play. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 3: that's part of it. But then on the other hand,
Speaker 3: it's setting up for control. I went on to Sean
Speaker 3: Attwood show when we were kind of talking about that,
Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, you know, Palante here the
Speaker 3: surveillance state and cameras on every corner. I said, You've
Speaker 3: got your smart phones, you got your smart TVs, you
Speaker 3: got your smart cars, you're smart watches. So yeah, all
Speaker 3: these tools make your life easy. You're more convenient, But
Speaker 3: you are trading your privacy and privacy and freedoms for
Speaker 3: comfort or for the illusion of comfort and security. And
Speaker 3: Franklin said it best. He said in that they saw
Speaker 3: this back in the seventeen hundreds. He said, those who
Speaker 3: trade their freedoms for the illusion of security deserve neither. Yep.
Speaker 3: So they're everything where you drive, your driving patterns, the
Speaker 3: route you take to work, all that's being documented and mapped,
Speaker 3: the conversations you have on your phone and in your
Speaker 3: car using your hands free Bluetooth devices that the government
Speaker 3: makes you use. They can tap into all that. Thanks
Speaker 3: to nine to eleven. They scared you enough to say, oh, well,
Speaker 3: we can't. We can't catch these guys because of your freedoms.
Speaker 3: Your freedom's are in the way. We can't listen to
Speaker 3: the If we could listen to some phone conversations, we
Speaker 3: could have stopped this. Guys. Oh here, listen to our
Speaker 3: phone conversations. Please just keep it now.
Speaker 1: With the AI, it makes it even easier for them
Speaker 1: to listen to it.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, so you got all these things happening. You know,
Speaker 3: they took away the gold went to the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 3: Now they're starting to try to push to bitcoin. In
Speaker 3: this chain block system, they're going to know every time
Speaker 3: you spend uh uh, you know you're driving habits, what
Speaker 3: you talk about. I mean, they're going to know every thing.
Speaker 3: So if you want to look at revelation in the
Speaker 3: beasts system, you know those you know you can't buy,
Speaker 3: sell or trade without this mark. Uh, those who don't
Speaker 3: bow to the beast is going to be killed. How
Speaker 3: are they going to know that you're not bowing because
Speaker 3: they got cameras on every corner and recording everything you
Speaker 3: say with yourself and.
Speaker 1: Control everything once. As soon as you slide a debit
Speaker 1: card use apple Pae, they know exactly what it is
Speaker 1: being spent.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and if you don't, they shut down your account.
Speaker 1: Yes you don't. Yeah, the the social credit stuff that's
Speaker 1: this is all real, folks, It's all real. So they're
Speaker 1: just setting it up and uh, you know, I yeah,
Speaker 1: we we can go down that. But that's a whole
Speaker 1: other episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The truckers in Canada prime example, they stood out
Speaker 3: just as your dough and they they locked all their
Speaker 3: bank accounts. Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just insane craziness. So with all this being said,
Speaker 1: we're talking about battles, right The biggest battle right now political,
Speaker 1: spiritual or psychological or is it something else entirely in
Speaker 1: your opinion?
Speaker 3: To me, I mean, it's a mixture of all that stuff,
Speaker 3: but I think it stems back to spiritual because I
Speaker 3: hold to that Deuteronomy thirty two worldview. Yeah's following sons
Speaker 3: of God ruling over the nations, and they're whispering into
Speaker 3: the ears of the kings and rulers, and that's a
Speaker 3: biblical thing. Folks, if you go back and you look
Speaker 3: Ezekiel twenty eight, he's talking to the King of Tire,
Speaker 3: and this is a real king. He's talking to this king.
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden that language changes. He's like, oh,
Speaker 3: you were in need and perfect in all your ways.
Speaker 3: You defiled your sanctuary, so therefore heat talking to this
Speaker 3: King of Tire no more. He's talking to the entity
Speaker 3: behind the King of Tire. And you get into it.
Speaker 3: Ezekiel the condemnation to the Pharaoh of Egypt. He's talking
Speaker 3: to a pharaoh. Then all of a sudden, it starts
Speaker 3: changing the language, like you know, you were the most
Speaker 3: beautiful tree. Yeah in Eden. Your branches and furlongs went
Speaker 3: into the heavens, and all the trees of Eden looked
Speaker 3: at you with jealousy and envy for your beauty. He
Speaker 3: ain't talking to that king no more. So I think
Speaker 3: it all stems from that.
Speaker 1: The spiritual base you foundation, right, Yeah, I agree, agreed?
Speaker 1: And what do you think people's what do you think
Speaker 1: people misunderstand most about? I guess you could call it this,
Speaker 1: like you hear the term awakening a lot right now,
Speaker 1: and we know we can feel something going on right
Speaker 1: something's happening. So I guess awakening is as good a
Speaker 1: term as any. But what do you think people misunderstand
Speaker 1: most about this awakening and this time that we're in.
Speaker 1: I'm making you think today, brother.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess with me is there's always two sides
Speaker 3: to every coin, you know, and the devil will give
Speaker 3: you truths that these falling sons of God will give
Speaker 3: you truths they do. There's truth to be had in
Speaker 3: the occult, There's truths to be had in every world religion.
Speaker 3: There's truth to be had in your secret societies and organizations.
Speaker 3: But there's more often than not, especially when it's not
Speaker 3: from God. You get three or four truths, like you
Speaker 3: had said earlier, find that common ground, then you trust them,
Speaker 3: you build rapport, so they'll give you three or four
Speaker 3: truths to make you feel good and smart, and then
Speaker 3: they'll feed you the big lie that follows. So there's
Speaker 3: a lot of people getting this awakening, but they're getting
Speaker 3: it from the wrong side because they have They've gotten
Speaker 3: some truths, but those truths are followed by the big lie.
Speaker 3: And I blame the Church. I've said it many times,
Speaker 3: because we have all the answers to these supernatural questions
Speaker 3: to this, you know, supernatural, war, magic, evil, occult. I
Speaker 3: mean all the stuff, ghosts, giants, all of it is
Speaker 3: in our Bible. We have the answers. But because it's
Speaker 3: weird or strange or it makes us uncomfortable, Christianity has
Speaker 3: ignored it. So when you get people that have an
Speaker 3: awakening or they experience the occult or come out of
Speaker 3: witchcraft and all these different things, they know the supernatural
Speaker 3: is real. They know there's something bigger happening, that this
Speaker 3: is just a shadow of a greater reality. And so
Speaker 3: they hear about this God, the creator of all, and
Speaker 3: Christians just talk about him, this, that and the other.
Speaker 3: So I'll go to church. They got the answers, and
Speaker 3: they come out of the cult. They've seen matters supposed
Speaker 3: they've seen all this stuff. Yeah, and then they look
Speaker 3: at them like they're crazy. And there's a guy that
Speaker 3: stuff ain't real. People right about that and make up
Speaker 3: stuff to sell books that stuff ain't real, and they
Speaker 3: know it's real. Yeah, so what are they going to do.
Speaker 3: They're going to go to the talking head down the
Speaker 3: street that's got the copper triangles and sitting in and
Speaker 3: meditating and doing astral projection and taking some ayahuasca, talking
Speaker 3: to the gods because they know this stuff's real and
Speaker 3: they're talking about it, but they're they're feeding you the
Speaker 3: wrong information. But when you're looking, you're going to go
Speaker 3: to where whoever's serving. So those Christians, I mean, which
Speaker 3: we are, we're doing better, but yeah, we need to
Speaker 3: talk about these things and give them the right information
Speaker 3: because the people that are searching are going to go
Speaker 3: wherever they can be fed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, we bring up truth. I've beaten I
Speaker 1: haven't really beaten my audience to death with it yet,
Speaker 1: but it's in a couple because I explained to you
Speaker 1: that I've done like twenty interviews this month, right, and
Speaker 1: this is like the third podcast that I'm going to
Speaker 1: bring it up and where it talks about truth and
Speaker 1: some of the most profound truth that I've been hit
Speaker 1: with my entire life. Well, it's probably the most profound
Speaker 1: truth I got hit with. And I think the first
Speaker 1: time I ever brought it up was on an episode
Speaker 1: of Trouble Garcia guy that you and I both know.
Speaker 1: But and I'm going to give context to the story now,
Speaker 1: is I was deployed in the army to the Sinai
Speaker 1: Peninsula in Egypt, and this is right around the time
Speaker 1: of nine to eleven. I was in Egypt when nine
Speaker 1: to eleven happened. So with that being said, being in Egypt,
Speaker 1: we had access and were given the ability to meet
Speaker 1: to go visit some of these ancient sites and go
Speaker 1: into Israel as well. So what that being said, one
Speaker 1: of the trips that I was able to take was
Speaker 1: to go to Mount Sinai. Now, people can and people
Speaker 1: do argue and differ on the true location of Mount Sinai,
Speaker 1: but this is one that has been It's actually called
Speaker 1: Mount Sinai, and there's a cathedral or not a cathedral,
Speaker 1: a monastery at the base of it, called Saint Catharine's
Speaker 1: which there's the burning Bush is supposedly there and all
Speaker 1: these things, right, But this is supposedly Mount Sinai where
Speaker 1: Moses went up to the top and the Israelites camped
Speaker 1: at the bottom for forty years, right or something like that.
Speaker 1: So there is a trail well worn because thousands of
Speaker 1: years of pilgrims have walked up this trail. It takes
Speaker 1: about I can't remember if it was three hours or
Speaker 1: six hours. Either way, I went up and it was
Speaker 1: one of the most profound things in my life. It
Speaker 1: was a beautiful day. I just I did it alone
Speaker 1: and I walked up Mount SINAI got to the top
Speaker 1: and I was I remember looking out over the desert
Speaker 1: because essentially it's just desert, looking out over deserts as
Speaker 1: far as the eye can see, and I had the
Speaker 1: words enter my head that service without truth is slavery.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's what hit me. And that day is
Speaker 1: ardentially and essentially that's the day I decided I was
Speaker 1: getting out of the military. Basically, it's the day I
Speaker 1: kind of decided I was just done with a lot
Speaker 1: of things, but the number one thing was the military,
Speaker 1: and I ended up getting out. But I that reverberates
Speaker 1: in my head throughout my life now from that point on,
Speaker 1: is that service without truth is death? Or is slavery?
Speaker 1: And I think I put a lot of things through
Speaker 1: that lens that I do and is this serving me?
Speaker 1: Is this serving God? Is this serving the kingdom? Right?
Speaker 1: Or am I a slave to this? So what that
Speaker 1: being said is the long winded thing is pursuing truth?
Speaker 1: Has it ever cost you friendships? Opportunities, pieces of peace
Speaker 1: of mind? We've talked about this, but you know, this
Speaker 1: is one of these things that I wonder because.
Speaker 3: It has for me.
Speaker 1: But it's a it's a deep question, and you can
Speaker 1: go as deep as you want. But pursuing truth has
Speaker 1: ever cost you friendships, opportunities or peace of mind?
Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, one hundred percent. I can't remember it was Solomon.
Speaker 3: It sounds like Solomon, but in there it talks about
Speaker 3: the beginning of wisdom, you know, and learning truths and
Speaker 3: things like that is the beginning of all sorrows, and
Speaker 3: it's the truth, you know. Doctor phil used to have
Speaker 3: this saying he's like talking to married people and talking
Speaker 3: mainly to the men, but he said when they want
Speaker 3: to fight with their women all the time, he'd say,
Speaker 3: do you want to be right or do you want
Speaker 3: to be happy? Because you can't have both. So if
Speaker 3: you want the truth, then prepare for some some grief
Speaker 3: and some sorrow because most of the world is like
Speaker 3: the matrix. It's like that one guy I can't rear
Speaker 3: his name, but he was out of the matrix, but
Speaker 3: he wanted back in. He said, ignorance is bliss and
Speaker 3: that's how most people are. So when you take that
Speaker 3: red pill, you are now the minority, you're the outsider,
Speaker 3: you're the weird one, and you're turned against I've said
Speaker 3: it before, I think I totally on Treble's show. This
Speaker 3: path that I'm on now, it cost me my marriage,
Speaker 3: It cost me my house, everything that I ever worked for.
Speaker 3: I had a real close friend when we started going
Speaker 3: down to first started podcasting. He was not a Christian.
Speaker 3: I grew up with my whole life, worked on him,
Speaker 3: witnessed to him. He finally became a Christian and we
Speaker 3: started going, but he didn't get his foundation in Christ.
Speaker 3: He just wanted to try to run with me, old giants,
Speaker 3: filing angels. The next thing you know, he one internet
Speaker 3: personality winds up with another, and now next thing you know,
Speaker 3: he's into flat earth and Hebrew roots and Jesus is
Speaker 3: the anti Christ.
Speaker 4: And we need to yes, we need to worship on Saturdays,
Speaker 4: blow our trumpets and observe all the peace and holy days,
Speaker 4: don't eat pork.
Speaker 3: And Jesus is the anti Christ. He's the one leading
Speaker 3: everyone astray. He's the one that stood in the temple
Speaker 3: and proclaimed to be God and all this stuff. So
Speaker 3: that it cost me a lifelong friendship. This whole seed
Speaker 3: war thing I talked about my book. I knew that
Speaker 3: when I found this that if I spoke it put
Speaker 3: it in a book, I was gonna be ostracized and
Speaker 3: I was gonna pay for it. But it was just
Speaker 3: more important to me to know the truth and to
Speaker 3: put it out there for those that want the truth.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be many, Like I said, the majority don't
Speaker 3: want it, and I knew, but I went on real big.
Speaker 3: I've recorded with really big name shows like my bucket
Speaker 3: List shows recorded and it's ready to go, and then
Speaker 3: someone reach out to him and tell them that I'm
Speaker 3: a serpent seed guy. Then that they'll email me, hey, uh,
Speaker 3: we just do you do you believe in the serpent seed?
Speaker 3: Someone told us you you believe in the serpent seed
Speaker 3: even though we didn't talk about it in that episode. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it'll get pulled because of what I believe. I've had
Speaker 3: many people unfollow me, call me false prophet and all
Speaker 3: this other kind of stuff and not work with me
Speaker 3: anymore on my show and come in free interviews because
Speaker 3: of the stuff that I researched and talked about. Yeah. Truth,
Speaker 3: nothing in life is free, folks.
Speaker 1: True story. That's the truth for sure? How do you
Speaker 1: personally stay grounded? Like when because you research some heavy
Speaker 1: unsettling topics, right, what, you've opened the can on that,
Speaker 1: so you kind of don't you know, you're added down
Speaker 1: rabbit holes that some people don't. But how do you
Speaker 1: stay grounded while researching these heavy topics?
Speaker 3: Uh? I guess with me is because I talked about
Speaker 3: you know, my other friend, he didn't have his his foundation,
Speaker 3: so it's like he jumps straight into the deep end
Speaker 3: where the sharks and whales were and no life reserver, right,
Speaker 3: and he drowned. You know, Uh, you've got to have
Speaker 3: your foundation. You know, there's all kinds of Jesus told parables.
Speaker 3: You know, the man that build his house on the
Speaker 3: sand and the man that build his house on the rock.
Speaker 3: That rock is Jesus Christ. So he's your foundation stone.
Speaker 3: You know. He even says that, you know, he's the
Speaker 3: cornerstone that the builders rejected. So you have to have
Speaker 3: your foundation before you ever try to build some big
Speaker 3: tall skyscraper full of Nephelom giants, falling angels and all
Speaker 3: this cool stuff. Yeah, because it is cool, you'll be
Speaker 3: let as straight man and I bring it up all
Speaker 3: the time that we talk about this. That interview that
Speaker 3: I've done with Timothy Alberino, he talked about it, and
Speaker 3: he said, there's all kinds of people he said, coming
Speaker 3: into this space, new Christians, he said, jumping into giants,
Speaker 3: fallen angels, UFOs and all this. He said, really cool,
Speaker 3: exciting topics, he said, things that I enjoy, he said,
Speaker 3: and I talk about it nauseum, he said. But they
Speaker 3: come in straight to that, he said. Then they start
Speaker 3: just watching all these YouTube personalities. He said. They're just
Speaker 3: he said, a lot of them just making up crap
Speaker 3: just for clicks and views because they get paid for it.
Speaker 3: He said. They don't care about your spiritual well being
Speaker 3: of your soul. They just care that you watch. That
Speaker 3: way they get some money, he said. And they lead
Speaker 3: people astray, he said, and they drown because they don't
Speaker 3: have their foundation. He said. So it's like, know the
Speaker 3: story of Christ, read the New Testament, know the story
Speaker 3: of Christ, the story of salvation, what Christ did for you,
Speaker 3: and not only be able to express those ideas, but
Speaker 3: be able to defend those ideas against non believers. And
Speaker 3: then once you do that, that is your foundation, that
Speaker 3: is your anchor. You know, out on this ship of
Speaker 3: roaring waters. As long as you have that anchor man,
Speaker 3: you might get tossed and turned and pushed around, but
Speaker 3: you're going to be always right there and safe. And
Speaker 3: that's Jesus Christ, folks. So but once you have that foundation,
Speaker 3: you can find these giants, fallen angels, a serpent, see
Speaker 3: all these other things that just solidify your faith and
Speaker 3: make it stronger. But yeah, if you don't have that
Speaker 3: foundation stone, yeah, you'll build this beautiful skyscraper full of
Speaker 3: UFO's neflim giants fallen angels, but the first storm that comes,
Speaker 3: it's going to all come falling down. So my grounding
Speaker 3: is my foundation in Christ. All the stuff I look at,
Speaker 3: as long as it doesn't contradict the Bible and the
Speaker 3: story of Christ and salvation and redemption of mankind, I'll
Speaker 3: entertain it and I'll read it.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, I hear you. So what question do you
Speaker 1: think everyone should be asking right now?
Speaker 3: But isn't.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 3: Now, I'll steal this from Coach Dave uh. He said
Speaker 3: something at the last evangelist conference. You know what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about. Yeah, he was at that last conference. I
Speaker 3: went to the last Evangelist Film Festival, and he stood
Speaker 3: up and actually got it on film. When I was
Speaker 3: up there interviewing with David Heavner, coach. Dave stood up
Speaker 3: because I was talking about some of these same topics
Speaker 3: here and how we need to question everything you know,
Speaker 3: and be good stewards and look look things up. And
Speaker 3: he stood up. You can hear him behind the camera.
Speaker 3: He says, well, you know, he's real rough around edges.
Speaker 3: And he said, folks, I agree with this man's sentiment,
Speaker 3: he said, but we need to with everything he's doesn't matter.
Speaker 3: It's your mom, your dad, your pastor. He said. When
Speaker 3: you get told something, he said, you need to ask
Speaker 3: two questions, who told me that? And is it true?
Speaker 3: So those are two questions we all need to ask
Speaker 3: on everything that we are told and that we are shown.
Speaker 3: Ask us who told us that, Consider the source and
Speaker 3: are they a good worthy source? And even if they
Speaker 3: are a good worthy source, is it true? Go and
Speaker 3: look it out for yourself.
Speaker 1: With this too.
Speaker 3: Yes, the whole serpent seed thing, I relied heavily on
Speaker 3: people that I respected, really smart people that I agree
Speaker 3: with a lot of stuff that they talk about. But
Speaker 3: they said that that cup held no water. Don't waste
Speaker 3: your time. It's laughable. So I just took their word
Speaker 3: at it. They told me that, so it's good. So
Speaker 3: I didn't ask the second question, is it true? But
Speaker 3: once I started looking for myself, I'm like, how did
Speaker 3: they not see this? Are they like Paul, are they
Speaker 3: you know, spiritually blinded and that the scales are over
Speaker 3: their eyes? Or did they not ask those two questions themselves?
Speaker 3: They had someone tell them that's laughable, it doesn't hold water,
Speaker 3: and they just took their word for it and didn't
Speaker 3: seek it out. Yeah, so yeah, everything, guys, ask yourselves.
Speaker 3: You know who told me that? And is it true?
Speaker 3: So thank you, coach Dave. I'm going to hold on
Speaker 3: to that. That's a keeper.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So kind of starting to wrap things up. What's
Speaker 1: coming next for Justin Brown and Prometheus Lens? What she
Speaker 1: got cooking over there?
Speaker 3: Doc? I got a lot of stuff I want to do.
Speaker 3: I think we were talking pre roll. It's kind of like,
Speaker 3: you make some really good paintings, yep, you know, with
Speaker 3: what little bit of free time you have. Then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, someone you know pays all your debt
Speaker 3: off and says, okay, I love your work. So now
Speaker 3: you just focus on your work. You're like, oh, man,
Speaker 3: I can just do this all the time now. And
Speaker 3: then you're staring at a bunch of blank campuses, canvases,
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh my god, where do I start?
Speaker 3: What do I do? You have so many choices, you're frozen.
Speaker 3: So now I got a couple of books. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: got a couple of books in my head that I've
Speaker 3: been wanting to write ever since I released that first one.
Speaker 3: So now I have the time to write those. I
Speaker 3: have filmed three or four documentaries already. I just never
Speaker 3: had the time to put them together. I have no
Speaker 3: excuses on that anymore. And I'm also wanting to, you know, course,
Speaker 3: create more content. Go out and see these ancient sites
Speaker 3: in America and around the world wherever, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: allowed to, you know, get the funds up and time
Speaker 3: to go and fil all these things and share it
Speaker 3: with the world. And I want to build a stronger
Speaker 3: connection with my subscribers and my followers, So I want
Speaker 3: to start doing some more live chats and discussions and
Speaker 3: get to know my fam. That's why I call him,
Speaker 3: you know, they're my firefam, so my Promethean Knights, I love.
Speaker 1: Y'all right, that's awesome. So I'm going to leave you.
Speaker 1: Usually I have people broadcast to seed, but you've already
Speaker 1: kind of done that in my thing. But I came
Speaker 1: up with a question for you, and I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: this be the last question. So, if Prometheus were alive today,
Speaker 1: who would be who would he be stealing fire from?
Speaker 1: And what would that fire actually be?
Speaker 3: Hmm? Christ? The fire is Christ, and you need to
Speaker 3: spread that fire to everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good answer for sure.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's a Southern Baptist boys secret. The answer it's
Speaker 3: always Jesus.
Speaker 1: The eye answer is always Jesus. That's fabulous, So tell
Speaker 1: folks where they can find you. Again.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you, man, I really appreciate the conversation. And yeah,
Speaker 3: you've made my brain hurt today. I'm used to having
Speaker 3: the subject searched out and just be able to do
Speaker 3: my routine and get off the stage, you know, But
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Speaker 3: and yeah, me reading the book to you. So it's
Speaker 3: no AI stuff. Yeah, but yeah, man, that's it man.
Speaker 3: Just if you like this kind of stuff, man, join
Speaker 3: us on the hero's journey. Man. Let's let's steal some
Speaker 3: fire and spread it around.
Speaker 1: Sure, awesome, it's always a pleasure, man.
Speaker 3: I always enjoy it. Man. We need to hang out
Speaker 3: again at the conference of a Gatlinburg. That was awesome
Speaker 3: hanging out with you, and.
Speaker 1: We'll figure it out this year. Get at least an
Speaker 1: an inventor of something together to do together, all right, man,
Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Let's see it.
Speaker 5: That's old us missed when they.
Speaker 1: A little smoke, just stories called in stone.
Speaker 5: Fire still burn sane when you strike it on your own.
Speaker 5: Crowns build out of borrowed light, Thrones wired into fear,
Speaker 5: dru Chani on mountain walls, while vultures circle near. If
Speaker 5: knowledge is a crime, we were guilty from the stop.
Speaker 5: They don't fear the questions, They fear the spot.
Speaker 6: So we steal the fire, not to rule, not to train,
Speaker 6: just to secrets. Smoking mirrors and call the beast by name.
Speaker 6: They say, the truth will cost you friends, confront me somebody.
Speaker 5: The savory have softer face.
Speaker 6: Swim fires, let it feed.
Speaker 5: Tongs were split and lines were drawn, while sure set
Speaker 5: to rule. Whispers head into the thrones, while schools trained
Speaker 5: obedy and fools. Serpents don't just lie with words, They
Speaker 5: plant them in the ground. Three troops wrapped around alive
Speaker 5: meek wisdom, Sir, They said, lied without a sword, so
Speaker 5: he can then without the room. If the path of
Speaker 5: all it's the cross, it's not the truth.
Speaker 6: So we steal the fasier, not to burn it down,
Speaker 6: but to warm. No one still froze in by the
Speaker 6: lads passed around. They call it dangerous thinking. They call
Speaker 6: it heresye, But fire doesn't fear the dark, and only
Speaker 6: the shoes.
Speaker 1: What real?
Speaker 5: Who told you that?
Speaker 1: Was it true?
Speaker 6: Did you search it?
Speaker 1: Or trust of your.
Speaker 5: The foundation first?
Speaker 6: Before your clients must rush of smoke.
Speaker 5: We'll steal your chi.
Speaker 1: Serious with the truth, Sleevey.
Speaker 5: We steal fire, and we pass.
Speaker 6: A hand a hand. We're not as cheese, not as master's,
Speaker 6: just as.
Speaker 3: That shows to stamps.
Speaker 6: Because the truth makes you a strangers, you're closer than
Speaker 6: you'll think. The flame once, never pass again. Only try
Speaker 6: to keep us us