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Speaker 4: Test tests, test tests, test test tests. Okay, yeah, See,
when you have two microphones, it gets confusing. Tristan already left,
he's already had enough of it. Yeah, so I had
to unplug the other microphone. You guys can hear me now, right, Okay, good,
So we traveled and we had the other microphone off.
And anyway, what I was saying was the timcast debate
did not end up being at all what I expected.
It was still a lot of fun. I enjoyed it.
I thought that we would go in there and you know,
I told Josie I'd be bringing some heat and she
said that's fine. So my assumption was I would be
debating probably one of the other members of Tim Town.
That's not what happened. Tim took issue with company talents.
And it's funny because there was really just a passing illusion.
I wasn't even really intending to have some big rabbit
hole discussion just likening a company town to the setup
of a completely you know, state run system, right, something
like Stalin's Russia or something like that, where the state
owns everything. I was like, how is that really different
from a company town? It's not, And so I tried
to eliminate elucidate the difference between.
Speaker 2: That and.
Speaker 4: Monopoly capitalism, and I really didn't see any difference. So
to me, they're pretty much the same. That was the
point that then got into a massive discussion, which I
don't think he knew what company towns actually were, how
they functioned, and even monopoly capitalism is not what Tim thinks.
Speaker 5: You know, I mean, that's not classical capitalism.
Speaker 4: Now again, I know that you can argue that capitalism
just tends towards that, why wouldn't it, But that really
wasn't the point. My poontent was just to say that
number one, company talents are, you know, anti competition, So
if capitalism is about competition, that it's not capitalistic, and
if monopoly capitalism is good, then there's really no distinction
between that and state run capitalism. It's just do you
want to live under Lord Rothschild's government that he owns everything,
or do you want to live under Stalin's government where
he and the state run everything. It's really no different.
But that point was all missed, which, as you guys know,
launched into a long discussion about the grounding for rights,
the justification for so called rights. And I think everybody
can see how the rest of that conversation went. Now,
people said, oh, you didn't do very well explaining the
Christian position. That's true because every time I would begin
to explain, Tim would immediately interject, and so I never
got to give as quick of a rundown of the
Christian paradom the world view as I was hoping to do.
But that's okay. Then we moved on after about thirty minutes.
But as you can see, I think most people ninety
two percent on most of the polls eight ninety two
percent think that didn't go that well for Tim.
Speaker 5: But hey, Tim was nice about it. Afterwards.
Speaker 4: We had a good conversation. He was cool about it,
So I appreciate that he didn't you know, he did,
He took it in stride. He was a good media
dude about it, and I appreciate that. Now I got
mog maxed by Trump and then then we've gotten mog
maxed by war. And I'm just kidding. I don't mean
to make light of war, but hey, we got to
have some gallows humor. We got to have a little
bit of joking around. And I'm joined today by my
good bro Tristanna if he feels like condescending to speak
to the rest of us out here on the internet
the clubs of the Internet. Is Tristanna available? Are you yeah?
Speaker 1: Can you go ahead and on mute?
Speaker 4: Oh, here we go, here we go off till that
start already. Look, yay, kay, Just say my name, say
my name, same my name, just repeat my name over.
It's a good strategy for debates, apparently.
Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's my favorite one. When when they
start doing that.
Speaker 1: Well, actually, what I like most about it.
Speaker 6: Is when you get kind of a weight at it
and you're always like, stop saying my name.
Speaker 1: Got how many times I've heard you say? Why do
you keep saying my name?
Speaker 4: It's just a weird thing to me. I don't understand
what people get out of that.
Speaker 1: What the tactic?
Speaker 5: Yeah, probably some time they're just like.
Speaker 1: Saying, don't really have anything to say? Jay Jay Jay.
Speaker 6: They're trying to recoup and like you know, get some
build up, some HP so that they can hit you
with something better.
Speaker 4: That's part of it, rebuild their hit points. So I
like that. Okay.
Speaker 1: Now some of these people.
Speaker 6: Have also listened to you so much that they're like
almost self talking, like I'm talking to Jay now, so
they're almost they're kind of letting out their internal dials
A J.
Speaker 2: Dyer.
Speaker 1: Jay.
Speaker 4: Now, guys, I've got Tristan's channel linked. You can follow him.
He does, I think, plan to be doing some more
content in the near future. So there's Tristan's channel right there.
Beautiful Tristana. He has de transitioned and we're glad to
have him back with us. He was transitioning, as you
guys know, and he's chosen not to go that path
and to become once again normal Tristan. So we're glad Tristan.
You're ready to get into a little bit of Candice
to Well, we're gonna cover today before we get into
war and Middle East type stuff, and we will have
open form. You guys can call in on any time
topic that you want, preferably topics related to the the
subject matter at hand. Candace, the war Trump, Epstein files,
all the news of late But if you do have
theology questions, those are welcomed. I'm pretty open to whatever
you guys want to talk about today. Atheists who want
to talk about tag, that's fine. We're gonna start with
a little bit of sweet candy over here, because before
war the war, Candace got war mogged, and so war
took over Candace's takeover of Twitter.
Speaker 5: She was everywhere.
Speaker 4: The other day when I was on tim Cast, Tim
was venting that all of Twitter was nothing but Candace.
And so we're gonna play a little bit of this
clip here, and this is her new Erka Kirk series, which,
as we all are told, they had these meetings, these
brunch meetings of two you know, narcissistic ladies about media
and what to not do, and supposedly there was going
to be some ceasefire. And of course Candice has gone
absolutely to Bonkerstown with a docu series about Bride of Frankenstein.
So let's play this little clip here, and Tristan and
I are going to give you guys, hopefully a little
bit of wisdom, if we have garnered any wisdom being
in the sphere of looking at alternative media and conspiracy
stuff for twenty to twenty five years ish between us,
I mean both of us being that long, not ten
to ten, but both of us, you know, back to
the early two thousands of alternati media.
Speaker 6: Do the days or hours actually we calculate the hours
that we've lived.
Speaker 1: Since we started getting into this type of stuff to
kind of inflate it a little bit in the audience's mind,
because I'll give that, I'll give us more credibility.
Speaker 4: Okay, So I think.
Speaker 6: It's going to be in the probably in the one
hundreds of thousands of hours.
Speaker 4: Okay, one billion hours combined study and research of alternative
media over the last one hundred years, between Tristan and myself,
and we think we have some wisdom and an insight
into the grifting. We don't talk a lot about grifting
over here. That is an overused term. However, there are spooks, koks,
and crooks. That is the domain, unfortunately of alternative media
and the domain of mainstream media. It is full of spooks,
kooks and crooks, crooks, crooks making it wrong. So let's
hear this first, Candace clip, and then Tristan and I
are going to deconstruct some Queen Candace's qanons.
Speaker 7: Then Nicole Rossine, I want you to understand who this
would be to her, Nicole Rothstein. It's going to sound ridiculous,
but this is the reality. If eric has sung with truth,
Nicole Rostein would be Erica's father's sisters, husband's previous wife's
daughter's daughter. In other words, zero blood relation, not even
kind of related, kind of crazy. You would even call
each other cousins. People do that. It's cool with my cousins,
my cousin. Okay, cool Erica has telling the truth about
her paternity. Then Nicole roth you know, why do you
understand who?
Speaker 4: So now these are the bomb cells that are going
to change everything. Some girl who Erica calls a cousin
is actually Erica's father's sister. No, I am not joking.
Speaker 5: So apparently there are lies about.
Speaker 4: Erica's background according to Candace, And then what popped up
was even wilder.
Speaker 5: Erica did not move to Arizona after divorce.
Speaker 4: She attended some elite schools called Tessa Ract. Of course,
that's from I mean, it's a mathematical, you know, five
dimensional object, but it's also an object that or excuse me,
it's a it's from the Wrinkle in Time, as this notes.
And of course Candace makes a big deal out of
things like the Gate Program and the Wrinkle and Time
and all this nonsense.
Speaker 5: I was in the Gate.
Speaker 4: Program, so I can speak to it. It was not
X men children, it wasn't anything like that. It was
just gifted kids. And we actually to read the Wrinkle
in Time trilogy, so that part is correct. However, now
it seems like she's moving past the twin Flames idea.
Speaker 5: And perhaps, and I'm.
Speaker 4: Not exactly curious to here what's going on here. Perhaps
because in the nineteen eighties girls would get bowl cuts,
which they did. I remember in second or third grade kindergarten,
even girls would get bowl cuts. But apparently that means
perhaps she's a man.
Speaker 7: Let's see thing right now, where a young woman with
absolutely zero professional qualifications has been inserted at the top
of a charity organization that pulled in over a quarter
billion dollars last year, and the media is telling you
that you have no right to know or to ask
anything about her. The argument being made is that her
husband was murdered, therefore she has a right to assume
the position. And despite the fact that Turning Point USA
is a literal charity, and therefore it's not even have
to pay tax on that quarter billion plus dollars or
pay tax on the alleged future billions that it's due
to break in thanks to a deal with a man
named Pierre. These talking heads are claiming that the public
simply wanting to ensure the person who was running that
organization is I don't know, at a bare minimum, moderately
honest about who she says she is. Now that inquiry
makes you a monster. So I guess your job is
to head to work nine to five, receive a flurry
of unsolicited emails and text messages reminding you that Charlie Kirk,
the innocent man that you watched be executed in broad
daylight live. You're to be reminded that was her. Charlie.
My Charlie needs your help.
Speaker 4: Now. Remember if we're getting into the position of now
Erica might be a dude. Wouldn't this tarnish the legacy
of Charlie because now Charlie was into tr and Z.
I mean, this is just getting so preposterous. And whoever
this guy is this obvious clickbait hard profile here Project Constitution,
we will ride you. We will ride the narrative till
the grave with you, Candace. We're gonna, We're willing to
die for you. We're right or die with Candace. So
I'm confused because I don't know how they're coming to
this conclusion on the basis of a bowl cut.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is just I mean, I'm.
Speaker 4: Sure there's other arguments that they're going to try to
bring forward. But now, first thing to say, I have
been critiquing evangelical fake CIA movements and churches since ten
years ago at least. I've got many podcasts and videos
doing that. I have no problem saying that TPUSA is
some kind of front type of organization, which I think
is totally shady. That's my opinion, that's my analysis, And
I know I don't trust or care anything about what
Erica Kirk is promoting or any of that nonsense that
does not make Candace correct. Guys, let's avoid the basic
bitch dialectic here. Tristan, first thoughts on this, Uh, what's
your analysis of the new x FOLS episode that perhaps
for Erica is also a man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm almost interested in I understand why a lot
of people get caught up with it because it's really
it's a it's kind of like a low level you know,
it's kind of a low level detective story type things
you have. You know, can Candas is the is the
star in this noir film, and she's discovering all the
you know, incongruities concerning Charlie.
Speaker 1: And stuff like that.
Speaker 6: But I mean it's one of the things that she
does a lot. And you see this with you see
this with people all the time, and I think she's
pretty smart about it. Actually, because you hear me m yeah, okay, yeah, sorry,
I thought I'm Mike was backing up. She what she
does is she'll make accusations without actually accusing anybody. So
it's it's this you kind of go, well, you know,
there's all these fake you know, all these kind of
like fake male to female female and male people out there, right.
I mean clearly there's you got, you got, Michelle bomb,
he got Big Mike, you got you got uh.
Speaker 4: That was her whole thing last year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Bridgie mc Bridgie Macrone and you have all these
people they're they're clearly not what they seem to.
Speaker 1: Be, right.
Speaker 6: People love that, people love that as a story. But
that's that's a storyline of most every every uh in
every detective novel, every pulp detective novel, is things are
not as they seem, right, almost every.
Speaker 1: Novel, things are not quite as they seem.
Speaker 6: And uh, but she'll go along and she'll kind of
weave this narrative.
Speaker 1: And what she's you know, she is accusing people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's saying they're implicated. She's already said they're implicated,
and she said they're implicated in the death.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she straight up says they're implicating, that they're they're
complicit in this cover up. But then when she's really
pressed on it, someone will say, look, what evidence do
you have that Erica Kirk is complicit in the death
of her husband?
Speaker 1: I never said that. What are you talking about? Yeah,
I would never say something like that, which.
Speaker 2: Is a lie.
Speaker 4: She's lying in that way. Yeah. And the next thing
we want to look at here is Tristan noticed that.
And I know I'm not a Hassan fan, but Hassan Piker,
as you guys know, is a leftist streamer who.
Speaker 5: Decided that he would try to test.
Speaker 4: Candae is so called audience by sending his audience to hers. Right.
Speaker 8: So let's watch this Lynn here watching Look at this,
Look at my chat? Look at my chat versus Canada's
Owens is nah slow mode or not?
Speaker 7: Doesn't matter is that this was done on typing frames
down county clerk who was responsible for scanning those docks
and this to the system to document.
Speaker 9: Look, her entire chat is my fucking chatter.
Speaker 7: Is alleged marriage and marble.
Speaker 9: Her entire chat is my chatters.
Speaker 8: Do you think a thirty six thousand person live viewership channel.
Speaker 9: Because it's the would be capable of.
Speaker 8: Rating another content creators live chat when they have two
hundred and thirteen thousand viewers.
Speaker 9: It's completely fake.
Speaker 7: That there are divorce related documents.
Speaker 9: It's just my chat in there. Look at this. Everyone's
typing fog to.
Speaker 7: Have access to privacy. That makes sense.
Speaker 4: So again, I'm absolutely no like at all for Hassan Piker.
But does this suggest that Candace's audience is inflated and
bought it? Bros tech dorks out there, can you comment
on this. I'm aware that Candace has supposedly seven million
followers on YouTube, well aware of that, But the problem
is that if the audience of two hundred thousand live
is legitimate, why would Hassan be able to dominate and
take over the chat like that?
Speaker 5: That was at least the argument tris, do you have
any comments on this?
Speaker 1: It's it's a bit strange. Yeah, I think it's funny
just commenting on that. They need to say.
Speaker 6: I don't just because I played a clip of Hassan
and you know, Hassan says that the sky is blue
and I agree that the sky is blue. Doesn't really
endorse everything about Hassan or don't think he's a massive
gay AFS word. But like the US, it's ridiculous that
we even have to say that.
Speaker 4: I know, well, we got a lot of people in
the chat that don't know that. They think I'm like
some leftists or something. It's because I play a club.
That's stupid.
Speaker 1: Candas people.
Speaker 6: You have to say this with Canas people because it's
played a song clip, So he's a let.
Speaker 10: He's a comedy.
Speaker 1: It must be a comedy. But yeah, I think you've
got a lot of Gate you know, a lot of
Gate students in your audience. Uh so, I think I
think your audience gets it the gay It's likely that
some of these channels are boded. I don't know something
that I noticed in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 6: You know, I talked about this was in the space
briefly with you the other day, is that Milo seems
to be involved in the Cannis pr campaign to a
certain extent. I don't know how if she pays him
for consultation or if it's just you know, basic Milo
blackmail stuff that he does, but he's been he's been
pretty prominent in defending her.
Speaker 1: And something that I saw happen earlier this week and
has a few.
Speaker 6: Days ago, there was this controversy over whether people were
receiving emails to call Canvas Owned Owned a demon.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: It was slightly suspicious.
Speaker 6: There were some there were a lot of popes that
were that were pretty similar, that seemed like they were
you know, yeah, there was an organized mans posting against Candace,
and that stuff happens all the time. And but what
was funny is, on the other hand, there was kind
of a the same thing was happening from Candas's as well,
and there were people posting almost the exact typescript defending
Candace and calling out supposed So you've got bought armies
versus bought armies, So I think that is kind of interesting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then I saw a lot of people saying
that that the guy who created the original supposed TPUSA
thing said no, it was fake. I'm any with AI,
which vindicates if that's the case, that indicates all of
us who are just simply asking, how do we know
that this memo is real? This could be anything, and
they did absolutely no investigation and just ran with it.
All of that side all this Canvas bought army, ran
with the TPUSA memo as legitimate, but nobody knew if
it was, and so merely asking the question how do
we know this is legitimate? Means that you get attacked
on Twitter, as I did with hundreds of Candace bots.
And if you argue against Candace, you will experience this.
You will get all of these ridiculous and they have
hardly any followers Harleni Po's, but they're there to tell
you that you're a retard. Now, this is other critics
pointing out Erica is a man allegedly according to Candace.
They're going with this now that Candace that Erica was
a man, is this is a new low. They're actually
just evil incarnate, right, I mean, this is so retarded
that it's any of these should have totally discredited Candace.
And that's why I can't find anybody willing to debate
me on her credibility because I started following her and
this stuff intensely for the last six months. You know.
Speaker 5: I watched when she did.
Speaker 4: Her bbxpose, which is a pretty good expose, and I thought, Okay,
maybe I should give Candace a fair hearing, and then
it went from there to crazy.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 5: I came in before she mean after the.
Speaker 4: Egyptian planes thing, so I wasn't really paying attention to
Egyptian planes. I think that, by the way, is bullshit,
but it doesn't prove anything. And then it's every week
it's a new theory, even to the point of going
back to the Project Camelot disinformation stuff of the kookiest
boomer nonsensical interviews with UFO, alien abductees, super soldiers, pleadians,
all this nonsense that Project Camelot put out, which was
her argument and her basis for how Charlie was a
time traveler with at the CIA using this twenty twelve
Sumerian technology that suddenly quit working.
Speaker 5: So at that point I was like, This is obviously
just absolute.
Speaker 4: Disinformation, and she's either not that intelligent or she's being
fed disinfo and she's falling for it. Either way, it
doesn't matter because both of those things can easily be true. Tristan,
what is your thought on give us some of your
takes on sweet Candy and where she's gone and what
she's putting out now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean I like how I used I
think of the YouTube pile you put conspiracy candy brand
to use.
Speaker 1: That term, yes, yeah, yeah, I think I I think
I was the first person to use that term. I'm
gonna claim it.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna uh we use it on Boiler Roomier.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think that's the perfect terminology for it, because it's
really it's it's it's low nutrition, easily digestible fluff. It's
it's cotton candy. You know, it's airy, it's sweet, it
tastes real good, it makes you give gives people a
little bit of you know that that addictive, suspicious feeling. Right,
but but there there's no delivery, right, Like what is
so say?
Speaker 1: You buy in all Candace stuff?
Speaker 6: Right, all this all it's all true, Candace, It's all true.
Erica Kirk is everything you said. She is right, and
of course I shouldn't have to say. That doesn't mean
we think Erica Kirk is necessarily this great saintly figure.
But it doesn't mean we are disregarding all suspicions concerning.
Speaker 1: TPUSA. It does not mean we're like Mark Levin, you
know we parted level.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, position, But say that's all true, Candace, Well
now what right?
Speaker 1: Then what's next?
Speaker 6: Like what if the world just acquiesced it was like,
all right, lock him up? Put Erica Kirk needs to
be tarred and feathered and uh you know, locked in
a cage so that Candace can spit mean girl comments
at her and millennial wine mom.
Speaker 1: Hot chick mag her for the rest of her life.
Speaker 6: Right, She's going to live in a little bird cage
inside of cannass Owen's home and watch Candace ballroom dance with.
Speaker 1: The hologram of Charlie for the rest of her life.
That's your punishment.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Erica, but this is your eternal punishment.
Speaker 1: You're going to live this way.
Speaker 6: This is the way it is, and it is not
though any it's not any other way. If that happens,
then what like what what the heck is, what is
the logical.
Speaker 1: Conclusion of all this?
Speaker 6: I mean, there's just to me, there's it's just so pointless.
Speaker 4: I don't understand what people well, people love getting caught
up in the soap opera drama. And she's weaved herself
into the story as the twin flame outside of time
and space, lover of Charlie Kirk, who communicates with her
from the purgatorial sphere to the dream sphere.
Speaker 6: Literally right, you know, it's I mean, it's it's crazy,
so that any if if anything is interesting about this,
it's kind of the psychology of.
Speaker 1: A scorned woman kind of sadly.
Speaker 6: It's it's a it's a fascinating, almost kind of Dostayevsky,
you know, Fulknerian madness that we're seeing Candice go through,
where she's you know, basically kind of having the strain
conversation with herself and her former friend Slash whatever she
sees him as. And so yeah, to me, the most
interesting thing of it is just that weird psychology of
whatever it is that she's going.
Speaker 4: Now, I want to ask you another question about the
tendency of the grifters in the conspiracy sphere, because I
think this is also very relevant with spooks, cooks and
crooks as the theme. Here is the guy claiming that
he actually wrote this supposed memo. Cognitive dot Eve claims
that the memo was made with AI is not a
real internal TPUSA memo to go after Candace, calling her
quote demon. Although there could easily be some coordinated campaign
to go after Cannas, I don't think that's that's totally possible.
The problem is that anyone questioning it was immediately called
a stooge or a getting Bbie Bucks right. And here
is the people saying no, this is actually Candas's menuons
putting out fake evidence like this to bolster her claims. Tristan,
having looked at the conspiracy world for many years, going
back to the time of you know, early two thousands,
post Big Nine event, you saw you know, Project Camelot
back in the day, interviewing all these obvious loons and
grifters to resurrect a lot of two thousands era conspiracies,
to go into a time machine and make these new
and a fresh conspiracies for the wine moms out there
in Kansas's audience. What's the problem with this? Why do
you see a problem going back to twenty twelve conspiracies.
Speaker 6: I mean, to me, it just seems it seems like
this is just an endless there's no.
Speaker 1: End to the grasping, you know.
Speaker 6: It is what happens with this type of stuff where
it's not so browner in reality, it almost becomes it's
like a role playing game.
Speaker 1: It's like this long term role playing game, and.
Speaker 6: You know, everyone's playing you know, five Deep blue or whatever.
And with the way everybody's devices.
Speaker 1: Are now carried with them everywhere, right, everyone's.
Speaker 6: There, I'm talking to you out the small photo right now,
and everybody has access to this all day long, and
so a lot of stuff's kind of addicted, right It's
it's addictive in the way that cheap romance novels used
to be addicted to women and you know, dime store
detective novels back in the fifties and stuff like that.
It's it touches something in the psyche. And also what
it touches in the psyche is is something.
Speaker 1: That's that's even though these things.
Speaker 6: Are relatively shallow, she's actually probing into she's getting into
the realm of the mystical. She's getting into the realm
of like the deep depths of a human psyche.
Speaker 4: Talking about open third eye, you know, christ consciousness, New
Age type ship.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean she is the realm of religion, right,
And when you're dealing with paradigm shifts, when you're dealing
with that that feeling of your mind being blown, that's
it's the same thing that kind of the drug.
Speaker 1: Culture really really hits on.
Speaker 6: And it's somewhat similar to certain drug experiences, the trip
that people go on when they're they're following these kind
of rabbit trails down, especially when they have a charismatic figure.
It's especially dangerous that she's a sassy black woman too goodness,
But it's this is the realm of of the mystical,
the realm of religion, and people really do they want
that mystery?
Speaker 1: Right, There's there's there's something that that's uh, we all
have this innate draw to the.
Speaker 6: Mysteries of life, and so the questions that are the
most difficult to answer, and what this is doing is
kind of sublimating that and subverting it into Maury Povich.
Speaker 1: MTV reality show style.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she actually listens to her dreams. Her dreams tell
her where to go with the show what to talk about,
what Charlie's telling her.
Speaker 6: I'm not kidding, Yes, I mean, I mean this, it's
it's sad, it's weird.
Speaker 1: I mean millennial.
Speaker 6: There's nothing more dangerous to the world than millennial women getting.
Speaker 1: A lot of attention.
Speaker 4: All right, let's listen, now, everything right. Every time this
comes up to people, go ahead, that's I think, I
kind of well. I want to ask you too about
the credibility question too, and then again some of the
more goofy stuff, because you know, when you were on
you and I were on that X space the other night,
I'd like to hit some of that topic as well,
because we're on YouTube and we got about two thousand
live almost and over here. A lot of those people
didn't hear that X Space that we did, which I
think was a really good series of topics showing and
questioning her credibility. But I want to play this clip
first because people say, every time we bring this up,
she doesn't say that.
Speaker 5: She never said that, No, she did.
Speaker 7: Let's listened, as I showed you in earlier messages that
he was a time traveler and he had to find me.
Is that just something people are saying to their homies
and text messages, and again not anything that I would
have placed so much emphasis on back when he was
saying it, But it came to fruition the other parts.
He did die young. Why did he think that him
dying young was necessary in order to change things? He
did die young. It is related Turning Point USA in
some way or another. At the very least, we could
all agree it's related to him speaking at a campus
events for Turning Point USA. I'm totally occupied by this.
I tell you, I read these messages and I'm going,
what is this? What is reality? Actually? And Charlie died, Yes,
like I said, it was related to this organization, and
I think we we would all agree that his death
and the manner that they did it changed the world
in ways that I don't think we can fully realize
or art So.
Speaker 4: Remember, Charlie's death changed the time continuum.
Speaker 7: Certainly not in a way that I can articulate. You
just cannot pretend that all of this.
Speaker 1: Collaborate on that.
Speaker 6: Later, with the thing that you mentioned with a secret
school at the Erica, Kirk went to the secret Whitney
Streeber Military intelligence school, the Gray Aliens, and she got
you know, she was just getting she was getting the
downloads from from a little et and he was helping
her phone home to brainwash Charlie.
Speaker 1: Into marrying her even though she might be a man.
But I'm going to say that she's probably a man.
I'm just going to imply it very very strongly.
Speaker 5: And then look, I'm just asking questions.
Speaker 1: I'm in aw gaslight off.
Speaker 4: It's saying no, I just asked questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty sad.
Speaker 7: Is one big, unhappy coincidence. It's entirely plausible, I think
plausible that they knew something about Charlie and that's why
they had him marked and had him monitored and had
him likely followed since he was young, and maybe they
thought the agents think that if they swarmed him and
they stayed with him and they pretend to be his friend,
that ultimately they could control Charlie and perhaps change.
Speaker 4: Charlie is the quisas hotter Rock in her mind right.
So basically, the agents are the missionary of Protectiva that
have to control Paul WADEB I mean Charlie Kirk, Charlie Wadeeb,
because if he gets loose, then the time continuum is
screwed and the system.
Speaker 7: Will Jane an outcome. They could literally change an outcome
related to Charlie.
Speaker 5: So did you hear that.
Speaker 4: If they don't stop Charlie, Charlie will change reality. They
had to stop Charlie before reality shifted. It's just insane,
Like it's almost like.
Speaker 5: It's new age shit. It's weird.
Speaker 7: So when for the first time in his life, because
I do believe he was managed, I mean I've already
said I was handled. I didn't recognize that I had agents.
Speaker 5: Okay, so wait a minute.
Speaker 4: If Candace was supposedly handled, then wouldn't that shoot her
credibility and her discernment right there? I mean, maybe you're
still being handled, Maybe you're still being fed stupid disinfo
that you believe. So again, she's like, people aren't using
a whole lot of critical thinking watching her show.
Speaker 7: And for the first time in his life, Charlie peaks
his head up and starts to push back. I mean,
it couldn't stop him from becoming bigger. That seemed to
be inevitable. But they panished. They seem to have panicked, right,
I mean, this is just starting to happen within a year.
When Charlie's going like, hey man, I don't actually think this.
I don't actually believe this. And then he goes, you
know what, take the money, take the money out of
the organization, and they panicked, they freaked out.
Speaker 4: Now that's not the only thing. There's also the Sumerian
time trouble technology. There's also the third Eye. There's also
the fact that a light post turn off and on
when Charlie is near because of his esp supersensory powers.
How do we know about that? Oh, she cited a
CIA program that isn't a real CIA program. Yes, I'm
aware of Project the Gateway processed in looking Glass. However,
looking Glass, what she showed on her show was not
what she claimed it was. It's a totally different operation.
She just briefly showed some image of an article from
the Cold War about the Soviets in Operation looking Glass,
which had nothing to do with time travel or any
of the bullshit. In fact, the only thing that you
can find called Operation looking Glass and time travel is
literal Project Camelot made up bull crap that the CIA
has ancient Sumerian technology, and she showed that on her show.
She thinks that ancient Sumerian technology is what the CIA had,
and it quit working in twenty twelve. How do we
know that because of some random dude on Project Camelot.
Project Camelto is the most ridiculous boomer conspiracy candy nonsense.
Just go look at the channel. It's retarded, but it's
resurrecting these old It's almost like Cas Sunstein's cognitive infiltration.
Invade the conspiracy sphere with retarded nonsense, and it makes
everybody look stupid.
Speaker 5: What do you care what Kundus is because she's now
one of.
Speaker 4: The top podcasters out there allegedly allegedly. Okay, so that
means that the biggest thing out there is now conspiracy.
And if you've been in the conspiracy sphere since two
thousand or nineteen ninety eight or wherever, two thousand and two, whatever,
then this makes you look retarded. Oh, you're part of
the Candae crowd. You think that there's the illuminati, you
think that there's the agents everywhere, and it's twenty twelve
to No, it's just I mean, two normal normies that
are waking up. This is a funnel to funnel you
into being retarded. And how do I know that? Because
I've been in this sphere since two thousand and I
believe retarded things. I've been through this roller coaster disinformation
thing at times to believe stupid shit, and then as
you get smarter and older and wiser, you realize that
was really dumb. There's no aliens. There's no alien I mean,
there might be demons, but there's no you know, a
garthen wigartha moon base where the you know, aliens are
taking the children to clone them. That's all this info. Tristan,
you mentioned some things about her credibility. What are some
of the things that you've noticed that make her questionable
for you?
Speaker 5: Credibility wise.
Speaker 6: One of the things that I think people should look
out for when you're kind.
Speaker 1: Of navigating a realm like this, when you see a
lot of.
Speaker 6: Vague generalities of suspicion being prodded at without an actual thesis.
Speaker 1: Right, So there's this her thesis is just vague.
Speaker 6: And then often targeted and vicious suspicion.
Speaker 10: So when you see a.
Speaker 6: High level of like kind of pathos behind it and
emotion behind it, sometimes it's it's a good indication of
that person's views, maybe a little bit clouded by their emotion. Right, So,
I think she's presenting herself with some sort of an
intellectual not intellectual but as a as a as a
journalist essentially, right, she I'm canvas and I am an
investigative Journalist's basically.
Speaker 1: What she's proventing. But notice she doesn't do any.
Speaker 4: Actual actual journalists exactly.
Speaker 6: Her sources are often anonymous emails from her audience, which
you know, I mean have fun speculating on and what
sorts of characters are getting involved in sending her emails
to guide her content.
Speaker 4: Well, we already saw that with with Mitch Snow who
was a grifter con man got exposed for lying about
his arrest record was not imprisoned by his wife in
the garage who he said his wife broke his thumbs
and locked him in the garage and imprisoning him. But
he's supposedly also a green bray black ops dude. And
then it turns out he's arrested at for which at
Fort Wachuka, for acting insane, But because he's on the base,
that's proved that that's proof that he was there and
overheard in a secret meeting between a bunch of colonels
the planning of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and she
he thinks ninety percent that ericar Kirk was there. Own
by the way, his dad is a zodiac killer obvious grifter,
where was.
Speaker 6: Very clear clear things like this where you're not doing
your homework, right, I think it's I think it's pretty
obvious that they're seeing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't even watched an entire.
Speaker 6: Show of hers, but I just from the clips and
from the things. You know, I've got some friends who
are really into Canvas as well, but oftentimes I'm here
in the narratives and it's to me, it's not it's
not adding up to a cohesive thesis. There's no real
there's no actual theory that she's presenting.
Speaker 1: And that it's fine.
Speaker 6: You know, if you're investigating something that's odd, you're not
always going to have to have a thesis or you know,
working working framework for understanding. Is some things are just strange, right,
especially when you're getting into the realm of sponaugs and
tie up and that stuff is there intentionally, right, that
fog If you are investigating something where there's a level
of you know that's peonage what not involved, there's going
to be a whole the fog of war is going
to obscure things. But she's consistently presenting her suspicions as
if it's evidence. And then she takes the evidence, the
so called evidence, which are small anecdotes, and she'll add
those up into just creating more general suspicion, and then
she'll cliff hang on a you're not going to believe
what we discovered next time, and it just continues like that.
Speaker 1: So it's it's done as in a serial manner.
Speaker 4: It's the monster of the week, it's the monster of
the weak X files.
Speaker 6: Absolutely, so I think people should look out for that,
like you look out when you see this in the
UFO sy op world a lot. You look at guys
like I mean, I haven't paid attention to it since
maybe the Project Camelot days, but I know there's a
guy like Timothy Albarrino and some of these characters that
are out there.
Speaker 1: You know that guy, don't We've seen him.
Speaker 4: I don't know him, but yeah, yeah, yeah, I've.
Speaker 6: Seen a couple of UH podcasts with him, and he's
kind of the new Project Camelot type saying he's, you know,
the updated version. He's basically he presents himself as a
he's this Great Explorer kind of Uh, he's Indiana Jones.
Speaker 4: He's Nicholas Cage, he's Benjamin Gates and National Treasure.
Speaker 6: Yeah exactly, So yeah, look out for that.
Speaker 1: I mean these are redflex right, if you're just constantly,
if you've got somebody, the.
Speaker 6: Whole the whole stick is just to stoke suspicion and
then get you to tune in next time. We're shell
stoke suspicion more and then tune in next time. And
then a level of it really is just I mean,
gotta be honest, A level of it is really just
a woman rattle heady drama.
Speaker 1: So that's another thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, Like there's so much of its papos and drama,
and I tend to try to avoid.
Speaker 1: People like that generally. Now I'm not saying.
Speaker 6: That, you know, sometimes things don't need to get hashed out,
but the public spats and the people who build their
audience on stirring up controversy, those are generally going.
Speaker 10: To be people who are.
Speaker 1: Not you know, they're often not giving you depths of analysis.
We're not going to give you a straightforward and coherent worldview.
Speaker 6: It's usually just based on personality cults and duking it
out for you know.
Speaker 5: Social media well also too.
Speaker 4: And I don't typically, I don't have a hard rule
that no women should ever publicly speak. But why are
we all suddenly just deferring to all of these women voices?
For example, Anakaspiian has been a rabid, wicked leftist forever
and suddenly the right turn quote unquote that she's taking
Oh now everyone's yeah, she's on our side. Now are you?
Do you have no like discernment and suspicion when the
rabid leftists are suddenly using right wing talking points? Do
you have no discernment to think that maybe these people
are grifters, maybe they're not actually sincere in their motivations,
and just like politicians, they shift with the changing tides.
And another person that I would be suspicious of is
Carrie Prejean Boehler. Wasn't she like a Miss America or whatever?
And then suddenly she's now putting up AI images of
her and Anakysparian and canvas altogether quote United for Humanity,
United for Gaza, United for America. And because she calls
out Zionism, she must be true. Why are we listening
to all of these women on giant geopolitical issues. First
of all, because women are not typically made for this.
This is not typically their domain. There may be some
exceptions to that, but why am i? And then all
the trade casts, Oh, she's a babe and she's calling
out Zionism. She's beabed. Okay, well that's good, but that's
not all that it takes to be correct, right, how
many anti zionists looms have?
Speaker 5: There been?
Speaker 4: Countless, Brother Nathaniel, on and on on. There's tons of
these people who are absolute quack lunatics. But because they
call out Zionism, they must be true, they must be good,
they must be sincere, they must be heroes. And literally
everybody's just making fun of her for this post. By
the way, even I even said, look, how about we
debate your positions and your support for Candace? And she
turned it down. Of course, nobody will debate these topics.
No one will take the Candace support position in a
public moderated debate. I've tried multiple people, and Josie will
moderate it. She has almost a million followers on x
She's more than happy to moderate a pro Candace position
and debate And uh.
Speaker 5: What do you care?
Speaker 1: What do you care?
Speaker 5: By the way, Oh, you won't debate the Zionis.
Speaker 4: No, I was supposed to debate Shabus custom Bon. We
were going to debate on Jake's channel whether Epstein was
masad and he declined it. So no, you can't accuse
me of not debating the Zionists or not debating the
the you know, pro war side of things. And now, typically,
I mean staring girl, she gets things wrong here and there,
but she's always been cordial in discussions and whatnot. But
she said having beauty is linked to being good. I'm
not sure that's the case. I mean, it may, but
that is.
Speaker 5: Sort of a fallacious idea.
Speaker 6: I mean, I get I guess I get what she's
getting at, the idea of like the thistsk getting beauty
will save the world, right, the esthetic truth and.
Speaker 4: Beauty being well, first of all, this is a fake image.
Speaker 5: It's an AI image. This isn't real.
Speaker 6: So I mean, you hate beauty and truth, Jay, you
hate beautiful, true AI images.
Speaker 4: Well, but again it's like, yeah, typically, being dysformed, abnormal
and ugly that goes along with vice. Vice is a
kind of moral deformity. Sure, and aesthetics is you know,
directly connected to purpor, personality, harmony, something simple. Yea, all
those things go into the aesthetics of beauty. But uh,
this idea that these are all the three good people
and because they oppose these three points. By the way,
how are you united for I mean.
Speaker 6: Every Hollywood actress then, and all the people.
Speaker 5: We should follow we should follow?
Speaker 4: Yeah, most most of the women in the public sphere
in music and entertainment and media are leftists. So this
is just totally absurd. But this is exactly why. Again,
Syrian girl, she's an attractive female, that doesn't mean that
she has good takes. Well, she's a good Zoynism so
she's a Muslim like her her religion is ridiculous.
Speaker 6: So yeah, no, I mean, I like, I like, but
it's it's a funny take.
Speaker 4: I guess what she's.
Speaker 8: Trying to get at.
Speaker 1: But it's a I don't know.
Speaker 6: I don't think if she was pressed on that she
would continue with that line of reasoning. It seems more
like a like a hot take kind of rage bait tweet.
Speaker 4: Yes, and and people are saying, people are saying, what
about Ian Carroll or Jake Shields. I offered to debate
Jake on canvas, and he wouldn't do.
Speaker 6: What they're saying is what about Ian Carroll or Jake Shields.
They're both obviously beautiful and so therefore they must be right.
Speaker 4: Well, I know your predilections, we all know your tendencies.
So but we're talking We're not talking about lust right now, Okay, trustan,
We're talking about media and listening to.
Speaker 1: I get a could you want a name?
Speaker 4: Who do you think?
Speaker 1: All right? Fine, let's move on the hottest guys in
old media, like hot.
Speaker 5: Who's the hottest ro.
Speaker 4: Well, if we're talking about bipop queens, I mean, I'm
right here, Hello, Hello, I'm right here.
Speaker 6: No, I want like I want, I want full on
like like hottest wig or Nazis on Twitter?
Speaker 4: Oh shoot, crap, I guess is Jake shield is the
king of that right.
Speaker 6: If you're if you're going to have to repopulate with Gartha,
with just all media hangs, who.
Speaker 1: Is going to be Who's going to be the wig Gartha?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, Well, first of all, we already know because
I ran a poll and it was already decided who
was the original uh Wiga and thus has the heir
to the throne of wigartha Well, we did a poll
and out of a thousand votes, it wasn't Vanilla Ice,
it wasn't Marky Mark, and it wasn't Jamie Kennedy as
b read.
Speaker 5: It was your boy.
Speaker 4: Right here, fifty of the audience voted, I am the
original Wigger and thus have the lineage entitled to the
chair of the throne of wig Xanthium.
Speaker 5: So uh, settled there there to settle.
Speaker 4: Right there now, Christen, you brought up something in our
space the other night that I also want you to
bring up here in terms of credibility when it comes
to Queen Kwondas.
Speaker 5: Uh you mentioned the tates. Why is that an shoe?
Speaker 6: Well, all right, so I wish I wish that was
streamed because that was we hit a lot of these
points that I think I made some.
Speaker 5: I know I forgot to hit.
Speaker 4: I apologize.
Speaker 6: I had a good thesis, I had a good like, uh,
what would you call it? I had a good new
Twitter bio for canis it's what was it? It's like
what millennial wine mom discovers time machine. It's two thousand
and seven conspiracy theories, Yes, exactly, with zero discernment, exactly
got all in two thousand and seven conspiracy theories with
zero discernment. But yeah, one of the things that happened
in that one as we had this guy on. He
sounded like a ton of a younger kid, and he
was pretty He was actually pretty nice. He was willing
to concede that he ended up conceding. Okay, yeah, I
guess Cannas is not really a credible source. But we
asked them, well, what would what would you say would
be good proof that Cannas is not the most reliable source,
and he said, well, is she live?
Speaker 1: So I asked about it. Okay, well if I can't
if I gave.
Speaker 6: You if there if there was an instance where I
could prove to you that Cannas blatantly lied in order
to cover up for criminal friends of hers, would that
be something that maybe would make you reconsider credibility And
he said absolutely.
Speaker 1: So I said, all.
Speaker 6: Right, well I have proof and I can show you
right down, proof that Cannas blatantly lied to cover up
for her, uh, her Pito, her pizza, the people for
the ethical Treatment of her pizza philic friends, the Tape Brothers.
Speaker 1: So Candace actually ran a media campaign.
Speaker 6: On behalf of the Tastes and put out and docks
the information of the victim.
Speaker 1: And this is a proven victim of human trafficking who.
Speaker 6: Was assaulted by a man it was on when she
was fifteen years old by a man that wasn't Tait,
it was another It was another guy she put out
into real attacking this person and doxing her name and
her address and her her name and her location to
her fans so they.
Speaker 1: Could go for ask her while.
Speaker 11: While uh while.
Speaker 1: Bleeping out the name and obscuring.
Speaker 6: The name of her attacker, who was a convicted repeat
offender of those crimes. And she also many times has
been this is this is easily demonstrated and.
Speaker 1: There there, this is all documented.
Speaker 6: She lied many times about the Tape Brothers to cover
up about what was going on with their cases, what
they were accused of, and what was happening with the
cases over in Romania. So and this person actually ended
up conceding and saying, Okay, well, I guess I guess
maybe that does kind of discredit her.
Speaker 1: Ill.
Speaker 5: Let's listen to this clip.
Speaker 7: Here, and when I'm looking into the Charlie Egyptian planes
and I'm like, what's going on in Wilmington, Delaware? And
I instantly hit the DuPont family, and then Erica's out
there nervously at Amfest cracking like not funny jokes about
Egyptian plane. She's like, uh no, nobody who in Gypsy
and planes are here? Tell you something. Her jokes are
going to become less and less funny as we get
deeper into this series and when I'm looking into the
Charlie So.
Speaker 4: In other words, making jokes about me means you're going
to get a vindictive response.
Speaker 7: Interesting little tidbit.
Speaker 4: Also, Candace is not very well read, and we can
prove that by the fact that she doesn't know a
lot of basic terms.
Speaker 7: But he did tell me another interesting little tidbit, A
little neckdote.
Speaker 4: A little neckdote, not an anecdote, a little neckdoe. This
is your genius crack detective journalist right, who again doesn't
know half of the multi syllable words, and even two
and three syllable words are a challenge for her, it seems.
Speaker 5: Now let's take a look at.
Speaker 4: The Project Camelot type of vibe that we have here.
This is one of our major sources and it is
a ridiculous UFO disinformation outlet that has for years interviewed
the most ridiculous people. In twenty ten, there was a
man at the highly secretive City of London meeting which
planned a third World War.
Speaker 5: It will be Israel and Iran.
Speaker 4: Okay, So because this interview was done fifteen years ago,
this is supposed to be proof that that Project Camelot
is on point. Right. Well, let's take a look at
Project Camelot's website and channel and let's see what all
they have discussed over the years, because I feel like
in today's lazy atmosphere, not many people went to check
to see a Project Camelot was actually a incredible source.
Let's see what else is over here. Here's Carrie Cassidy
and her little jagu war song that she has here
that she's fond of. Et disclosure three I Atlas, the
NA Nakes they're back. Oh interesting, Here we go.
Speaker 12: Let's scroll through a few of these.
Speaker 4: This is essentially boomer ufo slop studying angelology with Robert Stanley,
quantum windows and dimensions with insane boomers that look like
Nancy Reagan.
Speaker 2: There we go.
Speaker 7: By twenty fourteen, I was really speaking even more so.
Speaker 4: And I'm not joking, because quantum dimensions this is the
stuff that Kansas is talking about, Quantum dimensional time Portal,
Charlie Kirk, twin Flame Ship, the New Looking Glass, and
the coming e MP blast, White Hats in the Government,
QAnon aliens. The White Hats are united with the Qanons,
the secret hidden planets, angels and UFOs so uh self
healing through Gaya. There we go.
Speaker 1: This is it.
Speaker 6: It was just a bunch of New Age crystal stuff
and she ended up.
Speaker 1: I remember later on.
Speaker 10: She got Harry Cassidy, the lady there.
Speaker 6: She got really this lady called Dean, and I think
this guy's guy I went to college with. He got
really a Dean. It's like ascension mechanics. It's basically Ufo Cabala.
It's Cabala plus all sorts of alien stuff like the
if she makes all these really interesting esthetic schizo crystals
and drawings, and you have to she's mapping out the
layers of consciousness and the different levels of realms and
all the things you could do with.
Speaker 1: The powers of your mind.
Speaker 6: End up being basically scientology football a space alien sex cult.
Speaker 4: And if you guys are into this, I do have
a song that's better than Camel Tocassidy's song about her
jaggy war nature. I would direct you over here to
Ascension Millennium, the official release from uh your boy Corey
Felmon over here right probably probably the best Jewish man
in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: This Cory show is Marco in the video.
Speaker 4: If if that's a reference to a weenus, then no, unfortunately,
we do not see his weenus.
Speaker 1: We do see you would take it.
Speaker 5: We do see, we do see, we do see.
Speaker 6: The problem when you're talking you guys, just for everybody
in the audience, this is the problem when you're talking
about things like this with the uninitiated, the unascended. You know,
we're I'm trying to talk about deep spiritual matters, and
you know.
Speaker 1: And and Jay over here is making dirty.
Speaker 4: We you just assume again, you assume that uh, Corey
Felman's Ascension Millennium video is not deep spiritual matters. First
of all, he just put on a Michael Jackson jacket
and glove. He's there with one of Corey's angels, right.
Speaker 6: So do you think do you think Corey Filman saw
Michael Jackson to America?
Speaker 4: But well they're in the bedroom and he's waking up
to Corey's Angels and you're not. So it sounds like, uh,
somebody's got a little.
Speaker 1: The bedroom and making this is so weird.
Speaker 6: You make it all suggested, dude, a math king if you.
Speaker 4: I didn't even say it was sexual, you read you
read all the sexuality into interrupt.
Speaker 1: Theod Watch Jay, You're gonna have to mute yourself. You brought.
I'm gonna have to be you.
Speaker 6: Listen you if you don't have to make everything dirty,
talk Yay, I'm talking about serious stuff here, Like you
think Corey Felman saw Michael Jackson's Murca but yes or no?
Speaker 4: Listen, I mentioned a bedroom, I mentioned a Merca ba
and you made it dirty.
Speaker 5: You just assumed it was dirty.
Speaker 4: Look, the video has Sean Aston yet always projecting.
Speaker 1: This is what he does, he projects.
Speaker 4: Look, here's Sean Aston. He's got Sam Wise in the video.
You'll notice too that statue is the statue from Goonies,
so there's a lot of coded references in that. It's
very spiritual. Right, Kristan can't see what I'm looking at? Okay,
he's got a part. He's having a party at his house.
There's a party, there's rappers showing up. How is this
not spiritual anyway? Uh?
Speaker 5: If you guys are interested in ascending, big fans of.
Speaker 4: Carry Cassady and now Queen Kwandas will head on over
there and watch Ascension and Millennium.
Speaker 5: That's your tune right there.
Speaker 4: Guys who want to sport the thream, you can do
so there super Chat super through stream labs or through
YouTube natively. There's the link right there. Excuse me, that's
the project Camelot Lenk. Do not go there unless you're
a boomer conspiratord then you're welcome to go over there.
Speaker 5: Now, we got a few calls.
Speaker 4: I'll take one call and then we'll go to some
more analyzes here of the grifting conspiracy Candy World, thoughtful,
and then we'll go to John Adams our boy over here, thoughtful.
Speaker 2: You what I mean?
Speaker 1: We should ask if there're any you know, Canada.
Speaker 6: Do you think any Candide supporters are in in the audience?
Speaker 13: Right?
Speaker 4: I hope, So they're welcome to call in, thoughtful. What's up?
What's on your mind?
Speaker 10: Hey?
Speaker 3: So I'm an eel brother, I'm based out of Russia,
so you know, apologies ahead of time if I get
contrary and the audio is fucked up. But yeah, I'm
a little bit in disagreement with you about, like I
think that you're right about.
Speaker 1: Whether or not Candace is discredited.
Speaker 3: I would agree with you there, but I think that
you know, having like a blanket statement just like kind
of dismissing her altogether is also equally low IQ.
Speaker 1: I think that because I mean the same reason.
Speaker 3: That you don't do that to Alex Jones, Right, if
we were to hold Alex to that same exact standards,
then we could easily dismiss him.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Alex has a long track record
of being absolutely accurate and has pointed me to tons
of real geopolitical texts years and years ago that I
actually went and read. Candace doesn't read and can't read.
So I think that's a false equivalence.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, look, I'm not going to sit here
and try to, you know, split hairs.
Speaker 1: With where it is that he's.
Speaker 3: More accurate or not more accurate. What I would say
is that Candace has been accurate in multiple instances, and
if you were to like evaluate like what she's saying
right on an individual claim came claim by claim basis,
you'd be doing a lot better than everyone else. That's
trying to seemingly like kind of just blake at statement.
Oh my gosh, it's just she's horrible.
Speaker 4: Tell me, tell me how how does disinformation work? Tell
me how it works?
Speaker 1: I mean it specifically adds correct information.
Speaker 3: Uh, and then laces it with a false narrative.
Speaker 4: Exactly, what's up? Exactly?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not disagreeing with you.
Speaker 3: I'm not disagreeing with you at all.
Speaker 5: But I mean, like, then you're admitting that she's not credible.
Speaker 1: I have already admitted I said that. That was my
first sentence. I'm not saying, why are.
Speaker 5: We supposed to listen? Why are we supposed to listen
to people? And why are we supposed to listen?
Speaker 3: Because no, because there's there's still value. I mean, a
broken clock is right twice a day, right, like there's
still valua.
Speaker 4: Well, well, that argument everybody's analysis. Okay, Okay, sure.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's a very good and point trist and I
appreciate that. But the point I'm making here.
Speaker 5: Is that fawful, thoughtful hold on and.
Speaker 4: What I'm thoughtful hold on?
Speaker 3: I can't hear you, Sorry, my bad if the audio
is bad, and I'm talking over here.
Speaker 4: By that line of argument. Everyone is in an analyst
and everyone is credible because anybody can be right as
like a broken clock twice a day.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, do you not think that the the.
Speaker 3: Story about the planes, which is the flight tracker, you
can go verify that independently.
Speaker 1: That's not That's not something that you.
Speaker 4: Dispute, right, I don't think it proves doesn't show anything?
Speaker 1: What was what is the results? All right?
Speaker 6: So you believe the Egyptian planes? Think, what were the
Egyptian planes doing? And why should we be concerned with this?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I have I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 3: I tell you that if you have any countries hold on,
let me, let me finish, Let me finish it.
Speaker 1: If you have any countries military planes.
Speaker 3: That are following on or following around political figures that
closely for the course of like five to six years,
that is absolutely something that's interested.
Speaker 6: Okay, what evidence does he have that there were another
country's military planes following around?
Speaker 1: Where's the evidence for this?
Speaker 3: That's actually she's published that, and you can look up
those flight logs and see exactly could there's actually flight
trackers that you.
Speaker 1: Can do this with.
Speaker 3: This is not this is not something that's uh you know,
gray area possible.
Speaker 1: There were you're saying there were.
Speaker 6: You're saying that you believe there were Egyptian military plans
were these are these fighter jets or.
Speaker 1: These just military planes? Planes?
Speaker 3: These were planes registered to the Egyptian military.
Speaker 6: They're registered to the Egyptian military and they're allowed to
fly all around the United States and follow around public figures.
Speaker 1: Correct.
Speaker 14: Have you not looked into this?
Speaker 1: I have looked into this. We were not Egyptian military plan.
They absolutely were. This is not if you had looked
into this like.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you I have, and what how? And you
looked into this exactly how.
Speaker 6: A certain things and say you haven't looked into it,
so you don't know.
Speaker 1: I assert that it's been debunked. You haven't. You have
you haven't seen this it's been debunked. Oh well yeah,
you can look it up.
Speaker 4: Tristan. This is what I mean when I say.
Speaker 5: This is low I Q, No, it's not. He's using
the same argument you use. He's using your argument.
Speaker 6: This is what I'm showing you your tactics. I'm mirroring
your technical what you've done. You said that it was debunked.
Speaker 3: I said, provide a claim provide a provide a claim.
Speaker 4: That provide a source for where this was proven. You haven't.
Speaker 6: I'm saying that my my claim is a valid she provided.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not making this claim. She made that claim.
Speaker 4: You're making her claim. You liar.
Speaker 1: James invited. J has the evidence. Okay, trust me, bro
Ja has the evidence. Yeah, exactly, Okay, I mean, okay,
is there evidence?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: Did you?
Speaker 2: Did? You?
Speaker 4: Do you not understand he's using it seems blanket. Do
you understand that he's using your argument and showing that
it's not a good argument. No, you don't understand that
saying is that there.
Speaker 1: Is absolutely value in what Canvas is doing.
Speaker 4: You haven't shown that yet. There is Where is the value?
If if her value is a bloken broken clock can
be right twice a day, then literally everybody has value
as an analyst.
Speaker 5: That's a retarded argument.
Speaker 3: Sure, But what I'm saying here is a little bit
further than that, right because it's not just a broken clock,
it's a broken clock with platform and the fact that
she actually does have people like, for example, wolves and finance.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen his channel.
Speaker 4: Oh that guy's are retard. You're done. Get out here
all right, ra, Ra, Raise, what's up? And who believes
that guy was in Russia? Give me break? Oh yes,
I'm actually in Russia right now. I'm in Moscow down
the hall from Alexander from from Alexander Dugan together with Kutin,
and we are discussing Canadice for Alan Russia.
Speaker 5: Ra Rays, what's up?
Speaker 1: Hell? Gee? I wanted to say you're my favorite by
buck Neva.
Speaker 4: You have okay.
Speaker 15: You mentioned a quote by Saint Basil go and grown
useless or something along the lines correct about them Nian schism,
and I was looking for it.
Speaker 1: Then I can't find it anywhere.
Speaker 5: It's in his letters.
Speaker 1: I just can't find it anywhere right now, just by
the way, for the audience, what I was doing there,
I was using the guy's argument to show him how
ridiculous it was.
Speaker 6: I wasn't making the claim that just trust me, bro,
that's all the evidence I need.
Speaker 1: I was showing him that. That's what he was doing.
Speaker 6: He was saying, well, look and has provided this great
evidence of the Egyptian planes and it was totally real.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, okay, well you want you have
some proof of this? He says, yeah, just go look
it up because I don't know it's been debunked. And
he says, do you have proof of that?
Speaker 6: I say, yeah, look it up, and that's okay for
him to do. But of course if I do it,
he'll say it's low IQ. I'm not making the argument that, oh,
it's just the bunk, because I said it is.
Speaker 1: All you have to do is look it up.
Speaker 6: However, that Egyptian planes thing was so was absurd on
so many levels.
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't be able to give.
Speaker 6: The coach a breakdown right now of all the reasons.
Speaker 1: Why it was wrong.
Speaker 6: But I remember when this happened and looking into this
and seeing just how absurd the claims were, and it
was it was pretty.
Speaker 1: Thoroughly de booped. It was. It was I snowched it, guys, No,
but it was.
Speaker 6: It was pretty thoroughly debunked by a bunch of different
people who pointed out how absurd these claims were. And
the fact that just believing that Egyptian military planes are
following Charlie Kirk around for three years, Okay, if you buy.
Speaker 1: That, you buy into that. And they what were they doing?
Were they They couldn't tap his cell phone? They're following them,
or they don't they don't.
Speaker 6: Have they don't have access to the promise software.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's it's not the year twenty twenty
six with all of that technology. It's the year nineteen
thirty two, and airplanes have to fly and spy on people.
Speaker 1: They were Charlie Kirk had Egyptian military.
Speaker 6: Gang stalkers who were flying around on airplanes and doing
hands and restaurants and uh.
Speaker 1: And they were they were they.
Speaker 6: Were following around and doing secret gang sun The hands
signed to each other that safeway.
Speaker 4: Okay, So Basil's letters are Basil's letters are sixty seven
to seventy covers the dispute with Rome and Rome being worthless.
The first one is letter sixty seven to Athanacious and
that this discussion goes all the way to letter seventy
two Pope Demasis.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. Yep.
Speaker 4: And I did a whole podcast on this, by the way,
because it's a great reputation of anything like Vodican one
in the first four centuries. Uh, welcome everybody, But over
two thousand, twenty two hundred, we're having a lot of
fun here dissecting, decoding, taking questions debating raw rays Ray Ray.
I'm just gonna call you Ray Ray. Okay, thank you
Ray Ray Okay, Okay. Greek excuse me Russian script. I
can't read your Kyrillic. I'm not proficient.
Speaker 1: Hi jam.
Speaker 16: First of all, event to say that I really appreciate you,
and that is a blessing that contently cures.
Speaker 1: Exist in this phase that is full.
Speaker 16: Of branded thank you, and it's a bit afraid of
pubably speaking. But tell you my best to ask you
one question, and that is if God's knew before he
created us and he would end up in Hell, which
is a place of eternal torture, why he created us
in the first place.
Speaker 4: The orthodox the orthodoxy of Hell is not that God
is satisfying his vindictiveness with torturing people. The orthodoxy of
Hell is something like you read and C. S. Lewis
is the Great Divorce, where people essentially reject God and
put themselves in a state where they don't want to
be in his presence. So they're actually tormented by their
our own will and by what they wanted, not a
vindictiveness out of God's justice or something like that, like
he needs to know torture people for all millennium. God
doesn't need anything, so he doesn't receive anything from creatures.
This is something that's taught, you know, multiple times in
the text of Scripture. This is why, for example, PSA
is wrong because you can't pay God off.
Speaker 5: He has no need, so.
Speaker 4: Really he's just giving everyone what they want. So being
quote condemned to hell just means that you went to
the place that you wanted to be, not that God
forced you into some situation that you didn't want. Now,
let's listen to this little tidbit here, just because this
one I think it is pretty funny. I have not
yet heard this clip, but it looks fun.
Speaker 7: Okay, I happen to you guys something before we get
into comments, because I need to know that I'm not
the only person who didn't know this. Okay I didn't
know this, but also Savannah didn't know this, so at
least two of us didn't know this. I was to
walk with my husband and it was thundering, I think,
and I was like, Oh, no big deal, we can
keep walking because there's no lightning. And he was like,
what do you mean by that? And I said, you know,
like it's just thunder. Lightning is the problem. And then
my husband was like, you know that it can't thunder
without lightning, right that lightning? That thunder is the sound
of lightning. My mind was completely blown, I promise you,
in my thirty five years of living, I had never
heard that. And I just need to know. I'm a
live chat right now. If this is just a girl
thing because me and Samanna didn't know this, or is
this literally just me and Savannah are the only people
in the entire world.
Speaker 4: No, you're just a mean girl who thinks that she's
very intelligent and doesn't know basic facts. And this is again,
why would I trust somebody to analyze geopolitical machinations, assassinations,
warfare Israel versus the West when she doesn't even know
what thunder is. This is a foolish person, and you're
all being led into foolishness by listening to foolish people. Now,
how many times have we seen in media foolish people
gain giant audiences and are propped up, And yet you
all just say the only reason you would talk about
this is because you're jealous. You're just jealous of Candace.
You're just a BBI bucks loser. You can't get an audience,
you're so jealous? Or what if I'm actually right? What
if I know what I'm talking about here? Real, real inward?
Speaker 5: What's the real in word?
Speaker 1: What's so?
Speaker 4: What's on your mind?
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you what's your opinion on what's
going on? And I ran right now with our involvement.
Speaker 4: Well, we're about to get to that after we finished
the Candace segment. But of course, obviously I don't think
it was wise to go to war for Israel and
to support the Greater Israel project, which I've been talking
about for fifteen years?
Speaker 1: Do you have a year for that? Do you have
a source for that day?
Speaker 4: Candace has a source and she showed it.
Speaker 1: Okay, right there you go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so why are you trying to, you know, use
low IQ arguments tristing because she had a source, so
she shut it on the screen.
Speaker 1: You have a source for me using low IQ argument.
Speaker 4: Candace said that you Candace said, you're using low i
Q arguments.
Speaker 5: She had a source on the screen. You can go
look it up.
Speaker 1: Dang, all right, I think you're gonna come back like that.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 5: APF, what's up?
Speaker 1: Is everything? Okay? Can you hear me?
Speaker 4: Everything is not okay. Everyone in the West is dumb.
So no, things are not okay, they're in spiritual.
Speaker 1: Basically, I'm calling.
Speaker 17: I'm calling from Italy as a Persian who basically migrated
here three years ago. I've just finished my studies, I've
just gotten an entry job, and right now I can't
tell you how euphoric I am that my people are
getting freed from the Islamic yoke of these molas and iatolas.
And the thing is, basically, my only qualms with the
situation in Iran is that I don't like this rezo guy. Yeah,
because he has too many links to the shady side
of the banking elites. Sure, that's the only thing that
is a bit concerning to me.
Speaker 5: So let me ask you this.
Speaker 17: The picture is very good, like the referendum is going
to be banging. Banging is longest into the I won't
say the word.
Speaker 4: Because so let me ask you a question. So. Uh,
some people are concerned that he doesn't have enough popular support. Uh,
So could this.
Speaker 1: Has popular support?
Speaker 17: I'm sorry for interrupting you, but I have I have
to set three facts straight.
Speaker 1: One people who say.
Speaker 4: That enough, I've said enough enough popular support.
Speaker 5: So let me finish the question, then you can say
what you want. What I was going to.
Speaker 4: Say, is is it possible that in the vacuum you
could get a worse Ayatola or somebody jay.
Speaker 17: It is literally impossible for anything to go wronger than
what was going wrong under the Ayatollah.
Speaker 1: There is nobody worse than the Ayatollah. There isn't there
an entire apppart. The Praetorian Guard is IRGC.
Speaker 17: The Praetorian Guard will flee the country the moment they
don't get any money. This is not an icy situation.
This is not a whole grown sunny based understand some
kind of situation like that. This is the Praetorian Guard.
The people have turned on them.
Speaker 1: These are not regulars.
Speaker 17: These are praetorians, and they will flee the country the
moment the people cut their money off. The second thing
is no problem. No problem Iranians have faced during the
past fifty years is because of American sanctions. Two hundred
and sixty billion blessed dollars of our oil, of our
toil was blocked in the US banks, and when they
freed it, not a single dollar was seen by a
single Iranian.
Speaker 1: The entire regime.
Speaker 17: Could have built up entire infrastructures in Iran, and they
did nothing but to cultivate terror in the entire area.
Speaker 1: So that's the first thing. And the second thing is.
Speaker 17: There has been not a single dime, a single dime
of Israel paid to any protester in Iran that I
know of, and I know thousands of these people, well,
being completely homegrown. This has been completely homegrown.
Speaker 4: People have given Oh I don't know about all. That's
that's okay, all right, all right, Yeah, this isn't a
sermon here. You can't give a sermon.
Speaker 1: So I wonder what this guy thinks is going to happen.
Speaker 6: They're just gonna all the I audiences are gonna come
together and skip into the sunset and some beautiful liberal
like liberal paradise.
Speaker 4: Well, the idea that the CIA is not helping to
fund this is preposterous. I mean, this is the same
model of the Operation AJAX. So this is ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Now, I don't care.
Speaker 6: The US has been openly saying that they're trying to
do color Revolution style regimes.
Speaker 1: I know, and openly promoting this, and every time it.
Speaker 6: Was called the Green Revolution, Rise up guys, And then
what's been what's been happening. It seems like they haven't
been enough people that have actually.
Speaker 4: Right, So, I mean it's yeah. So back in two
thousand and nine, we had the gene sharp color revolution model.
Right here, I'll show you guys on the screen. This
is the Iranian Green Revolution. Obviously, this is a Western
CIA funded color revolution. All the color revolutions are essentially
the Western gene sharp model of quote democracy. Now, I
think that Ahma Denizhad was crazy. I think he was
a weird cult leader. I think that Shia Islam is crazy.
I've talked to debated with them. We've argued with doctor Khalil,
nice enough guy, but the religion is insane. It's a
totally crazy religion and they do all kinds of crazy.
It's a world hub for transositioning. Right, Tristanna would know.
He's been there.
Speaker 5: He tried to get a transition in uh In uh In, Iran.
Speaker 4: It didn't work for him. He wasn't.
Speaker 5: Uh woman enough.
Speaker 1: You keep dem, dude, I'm a I'm a maga.
Speaker 4: Christ now bad, Okay, you're a maga Christ now.
Speaker 1: That it's cool to be to be anti woke.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm the you know, I'm the trendy, anti woke
former trending.
Speaker 4: Uh. Oh, he's just alerted me that he has unsubbed. Okay,
good goodbye. Uh I'm glad that you don't know about
the fact that the CIA has.
Speaker 6: Been bringing back and having lecturers for thirty more minutes
about exactly what's happening.
Speaker 4: Oh, he's already unsobbed because I just showed him that
the Green Revolution was a color revolution the whole time.
Now again, so he won't even take into account that
I agree that the I told is their corrupt. But
what I was going to say next was the Ayatolas
have had deals with the West. They have had secret
deals with Western intelligence going all the way back to
the Cold War, and it deals with the US.
Speaker 13: Good enough evidence that you know, when you get rid
of the old boss, you get the same old boss
with the new boss.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well again, that's what.
Speaker 10: They do in other countries as well.
Speaker 4: Right, they did the exact same thing where they tried
to then basically make a an ally or a puppet
out of the next guy. Right, So, when the Shah
didn't succeed, guess what the CI in British intelligence did.
They immediately made deals with Ayatola's there you go, Well,
did you see.
Speaker 1: J how the you know, the new Iotola who was
going to step up.
Speaker 6: They started saying that he had been too very soon
after it was announced, so I was saying, oh, he's
been killed by a rocket now, and then Elon Musk
deleted his, uh his Twitter accounts, so we might see
kind of a whack a mole. And and the regime
in the US is kind of already signal that they're
looking at maybe four more weeks or so of campaign,
so I think maybe they've expected to just play whack.
Speaker 1: A mole, which all they do. Iotolas wherever the g I, GRC.
Speaker 4: Throw British Intelligence and the CIA installed the Iatola kashawanee
right here. And by the way, this is not just
this declassified UK website. You can find this even on
the Guardian. I've read this in probably five different big
geopolitical texts, whether it's Steven Dorel or whether it's Mark
Curtis's book or Dreyfuss. This is discussed by all these people. Oh,
by the way, the Massad also has had arms deals
with the Iatolas, So nobody tells you that except for uh.
Speaker 13: Look at mom Ganey getting in in New York and
then immediately switching to.
Speaker 1: Now, we're going to raise taxes on everybody.
Speaker 13: So like people, if you look at the you know,
the lower level, the mayorial level in a city, about
how how fast people switch, you can't see that.
Speaker 10: That's how happening on an international level.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's funny what they what happened over in Venezuela.
Speaker 6: It's it's still unclear the long term ramifications, but it
seems like they did effectively kind of get there, either
through blackmail, threats or other other ways. They kind of
lubricated the situation before they went in there and took
out It took out Aduro and his vice president steps
up and it's still the same regime. They've just said, Okay,
we're gonna do business with you, but now it's fine.
So now that now, now the Chavistas in Venezuela are
okay because they're going to give you the oil in
your decenter or okay, sign me up.
Speaker 1: I heard him getting oil.
Speaker 4: Now I want to ask, I want to I want
to crowdsource my intelligence because I didn't fact check it
through Candace, but uh, because I know can't because if
Candace says it. She's got a source. She wouldn't say
something without a source. This image is going around of
Orianda Rothschild wearing a bunch of Masonic garb.
Speaker 5: I could believe this is real.
Speaker 4: However, with AI, we just simply don't know. So does
anyone know if this is actually a real image. I'm
looking to see if anybody, you know, quote fact checked it,
but I don't really see anybody doing it.
Speaker 13: So.
Speaker 4: And the reason I'm bringing that up is because right
before we were going to do this live stream, Chase
guys are started replying to me that Masonry, because of
course Chase formerly was an infra war host, is defending
his free Masonic positions that I disagree. I would not
be a Mason if it was against Jesus Christ. Many
of the people who write about this, like Albert Pike,
were arrogant, egotistical. Otherwise it's a wholesome fraternity, and he
was a self righteous, incessant babbler. Well, the problem is
that it's not just Albert Pike, but pretty much any
Masonic text that you read. I have a whole shelf
of Masonic materials and books, whether it's Mackey McCoy or
Maley p Hall, like, they don't essentially say anything different
about who Jesus was and denying the Trinity. So the
fact that Chase Geyser himself says well, I can be
a Christian and be a Mason, that's different from whether
Masonry as an institution is anti Christian because it's specific
teaching about the generic theism, the generic deity is that
you can believe in any God. Okay, well, any God
is not Jesus and not the Trinity. So that's a
mutually exclusive position. That'd be like saying, well, well, yes,
Marxism is an atheist movement, but I'm a Christian Marxist
because I'm still a Christian in this atheist movement, it
doesn't make any sense. So no, you cannot be a
Mason and be a Christian because the organization itself is
committed to an anti Christian position across the board. It's
not just Albert Pike. So I'm kind of surprised that
that's the level of argumentation that Chase is taking. And
I would add that that's not just me saying that.
When we were at Timcast, we went down to Alexandria, Virginia,
and some of you may or may not know that Alexander,
Virginia has a giant Masonic monument that is not the
Washington Monument. This is an Alexandria, not in DC. You
can see from this top of this thing, though, you
can see the Washington Monument. This thing is almost as
tall or equally as tall as that. It's got multiple
levels and floors to it. It's called the Washington Masonic Monument.
Let me pull it up, and we went and took
a tour. Why did I do this? Is it because
I'm secretly a Mason?
Speaker 17: No?
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask the Masonic historian tour guide a
bunch of questions, right, to get it from themselves, right,
Washington Masonic Memorial in Alexander, Virginia. So here is the building.
You can see it here. It's a kind of looks
like a Mormon temple. It's literally the same architecture as
the Mormon dif because of course Joseph Smith just copied
and pasted all the Masonic stuff.
Speaker 5: And many many floors. It's massive, it's huge.
Speaker 4: It has an audience hall, it's got multiple Masonic lodges
within it. Every floor is a giant kind of Masonic
hall or museum. And as you can see, here is Washington.
Here this is up towards the top of it. This
is one of the lower level floors there. This is a.
Speaker 5: Painting mural.
Speaker 4: Celebrating Saint John's Day, which is one of the Masonic holidays,
together with John the Evangelist, together with John the Baptist.
Now keep in mind they use all this biblical imagery
and terminology to dupe dumb people to think that it's Christian.
Speaker 5: And yet here we have a giant mural of Mecca.
Anybody who's a.
Speaker 4: Christian who has any sense that isn't an idiot like
Cameron cucking Christianity or Trent Dougherty or a Vatican who
nosrotaite person knows that there's nothing about Mecca that's at
all related to the Biblical deity. It's total bull crap.
And that yet you have it right here. They see
the Supreme Deity as manifested in all the religions.
Speaker 5: Now, how is that compatible with Christianity?
Speaker 4: Chase Guyser I said when I toured the v giant
Massonic memorial. The explanation of the Masonic curator historian was
that their philosophy is quote a supreme deity that is
quote Eric theism. This is identical to Vatican Two's generic theism.
In fact, they even have a giant mural honoring the
Kaba in Mecca. So, uh no, Chase, what you're saying
is completely simply not true. And by the way, we're
supposed to have a debate with Chase Geyser if it'll
ever come to fruition about masonry, but who knows that
that will will actually happened. So I don't know anyway,
any thoughts on masonry and compatibility with Christianity Esteemed panel,
Do you guys have any thoughts? Only if it's quantum
quantum masonry? Okay, yeah, that's the next level of masonry,
quantum masery.
Speaker 13: Well, apparently what you're saying is that guy is saying
that I don't have to believe in all of the
guys who are the progenitors, the original guys in masonry.
I can just have my own masonry when they're not there.
Speaker 10: They're not the experts I am.
Speaker 6: Well, what's ironic about that is that those kind of experts.
You read Albert Pike Mortals and Dogma, and it kind
of outlines exactly how they doupe each layer of initiates
and how by the end you're giving a completely different
paradigm than you are as an editor, press apprentice and
a master mason.
Speaker 1: So at least in the Scots, right, So it's you.
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Speaker 1: So I'm talking to the rest of the panel. But anyways,
do they get the straight in this genre?
Speaker 6: I've never got crazy emails.
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Speaker 1: Not in? I'm all in.
Speaker 18: Why haven't I published stuff like this?
Speaker 1: I'm sure fake. If you want to bring if you
want to know.
Speaker 6: What's going to happen, right, just make it all like
putty stuff and.
Speaker 18: Add the word all you have to do add science,
the word science. And by the way, that's why they
actually added social science and there was to legitimize that
area because nobody took it seriously.
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, and they wanted to legitimize Freud Freud and
and then also new science.
Speaker 1: Seeing the scam here, it's not.
Speaker 18: Just adding science to legitimize whatever crazy stuff he's coming
up with, but new science.
Speaker 5: I want to note that, Uh.
Speaker 1: Isn't it? Is he advocating like York right?
Speaker 4: It could be, But I want to show you guys
first of all that go ahead.
Speaker 13: Is remember John the John Robison book Proofs of a
Conspiracy that was one of the first things that kind
of hit me to this like split mindset up with
Mason's is that I was reading that book and then
he's like, oh, no, York right masonry is good.
Speaker 1: It's the Illuminati. Yes, masonry that's bad.
Speaker 13: Right, And it's like, so there's always this, There's always
going to be this, you know, alluding to that, like,
oh there was once this good premasonry, but then God
Mason's took it over. Yes, but the but the York
right masonry itself is still rooted in like you know,
a monad as well.
Speaker 4: Correct. Yeah, And just to show, first of all, the
idea that they don't like Albert Pike is not true.
Albert Pike is the Bible of Scotch right Scottish right masonry.
Here you see, and you guys can screenshot that and
read it later. I'm not going to read three, three
or four pages of this, but.
Speaker 5: This is his chapter on Christianity.
Speaker 4: So let's see exactly what Albert Pike and roles and
Dogma says the media of Christianity is. And you'll notice
on those two pages he says, first of all, the
Trinity is borrowed from the Greek philosophers. He says his
view is actually the view of Plotinus and that the
world is an eternally generated reality from the monad. So
it's neoplatonic. Perennialism is Albert Pike's view, and he says
the Holy Spirit is not a person, it's an impersonal force.
So this is Masonry, this is their doctrine of God.
Speaker 5: This is believed or not.
Speaker 4: Albert Pike has a chapter on the Church Fathers, and
this whole chapter is to say, the real Trinitarian doctrine,
the real teaching of the mystical Jesus, is neoplatonism. So
guess who has the exact same view as Albert Pike Origin.
Literally on that page he basically says Origin was correct,
the Church Fathers got it wrong. Masonry, at least his
Scottish right brand of it, teaches neoplatonic emanations. There you go, So, no,
you cannot be a Freemason. And he's going to say, well,
but I don't like Albert Pike. Well, okay, you're out
of the minority. Then you're out of the scope of
all the rest of accepted Scottish righte Masonry, and you're
in some supposed Blue or York right or whatever.
Speaker 5: But why would I want to be part.
Speaker 4: Of Masonry when it's united with the Scottish right. It's
just two dialectics of some it's a way to do
people that have an anti Christian or have a pro
Christian way of thinking to say, oh, you can still
be a Mason just going this track, Well, it's still
anti Masonic because anti Christian, because Masonry is against throne
and altar. Their degrees have stabbing the papal tiara, the miter,
or the king. So it's to overthrow king and altar
and establish democracy. The entire spiel that I got from
the guy at the monument was religious systems create strife
and division, and Masonry creates unity and tolerance for all
religions and all people in all faiths. And I'm like, okay,
so you have but you have to believe in a
supreme deity. Yes, just any deity. Okay, So what if
it's Satan, Oh well that doesn't count. So it's just
it's a sales pitch for dumb people, and only dumb
people would believe this, and with no you know, discernment
or critical thinking like well now wait a minute, like
how am I going to be united with a Hindu
dude who believes in you know, burning his actually you know, his.
Speaker 5: Wife or whatever.
Speaker 4: If he dies, the wife has to burn herself in immolation.
So is that the same god as the the you
know god of Protestantism. It may be, But now Masonry
is a judaic, Protestant general theistic, esoteric society that ultimately
is kind of atheistic or satanic. So you cannot. And
every historic Christian embody has forbidden its members uh to
be Masons, except for some of the Protestants who have
had an affinity for Freemasonry. But Orthodoxy and Catholicism you're
forbidden to be a Freemason agent. What's up? And by
the way, there are people saying in the chat, well,
who doesn't understand?
Speaker 5: Okay, well, come come educate me.
Speaker 4: Come hop on here and tell me where I'm wrong,
because I've got a whole stack of a sonic books.
Speaker 1: Makes good men better, just makes good man better. Day.
Speaker 4: Come on, it's all so low tier dude, Mormons, I
know you've got it all wrong. That's not the well,
Mormonism is Masonry. There, they're basically the same. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 6: Do you like it when you we actually talk to Mason's.
They won't even tell you what it is. They'll just
say they'll give you They'll give you slogans.
Speaker 1: That's all that happens. Make good.
Speaker 4: By the way, I used to work with a.
Speaker 10: Bunch of Freemasons at a job I had. I think
I knew you guys know the story.
Speaker 13: But they asked me to be a mason and I
said no, and they said, actually, you know more about
masonry than we do.
Speaker 10: That's why we want you to do that.
Speaker 1: Then they were like, we weren't asking.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: When I was on the tour, I played dom and
I just sort of like what every now and then
throw in a thing like I remember saying, oh interesting, Yes,
Albert Plague discusses the rough ashlar and it being made
into a perfect stone, and he was like, well, how
did you know that? Albert pak said that, So I
was like, I know a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: That's when we all learned in elementary school. Did you
go to six grade history class?
Speaker 6: The Boomer Masons aren't The Boomer Masons aren't even aware
that like free mason stuff has been on the internet
for like thirty years.
Speaker 1: Right right, So they still think it's like a secret.
Speaker 5: Now that's how this guy was. He was like, how'd
you know that?
Speaker 4: And then he started trying to describe like the two
pillars and I'm like, oh, you mean Jakin and Boaz
And he's like, how did you know the two pillars
were jaking AboutUs? Because I've read the Old Testamon know
what masonry borrows from Solomon's temple, right, So it's like,
it's not that.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think that?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 6: Do you guys think that the influence of masonry, the
prominence of freemasonry has declined over the West a couple
of decades.
Speaker 4: Absolutely?
Speaker 5: In fact, in fact the guy was talking about it.
Speaker 4: The guy was saying, well, we've had such a crisis
and membership. People just don't want to join it. We
can't figure out what.
Speaker 6: I feel like, it's kind of a bit of rotary
club into people see it as just kind of boomer
social clubs, ciguard club.
Speaker 4: Correct. And when we went to the the thing, there
was no one else touring. Nobody was there, just us,
which was a little creepy too, by the way.
Speaker 6: It definitely it definitely has I think I think in
certain areas. I mean, I only know about America in
certain areas in the country. It might still have like
a little bit of a stronghold, but as far as
the stronghold that it had for the duration of the
twentieth century, it's definitely not.
Speaker 1: Up to what it used to be. Like a Bob
Lubovitch is the news.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, congrats to people like Anthony Westgate. He dug
up in the emails. Epstein was part of that what
was it called the astrology It was based around astrology,
the Something Club. I just went blank on it, but
apparently Epstein was a member of a secret society something
astrology related, which is fascinating because when you go into
the Masonic Temple and you tour all these different levels
in the museum and all their symbolic stuff, they have
a high key importance for astrology. They had multiple books
on astrology. Now I don't I'm not putting stock in
astrology because I think what happens is the Masons are saying, oh,
the ancient religions that look to the stars, the Chaldeans,
et cetera that used the stars, the Sabeans, et cetera.
Speaker 5: As the Zodiac Club.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 5: That was Epstein's secret society was a part of.
Speaker 4: The Masons are basically just saying, oh, we're doing like
they did where they study the stars and they had
a science, but they pretended it is a religion, right,
And I think as you get higher in masonry they
kind of tell you, look, it's kind of atheistic. We're
just using the symbols of the religions, you know, to
basically manage humanity. That was what masonry was supposed to be,
and it was an intelligence structure and network for the
British Empire especially, that's where it comes out of especially
modern you know, seventeen hundred Grand Lodge, et cetera. That's
British intelligence spy stuff. In fact, if you watch Many
would Be King. And when the guy was giving us
the tour, I started bringing up Rudyard Kipling. He's like, oh, brother, Rudyard,
he was one of our greatest members. I was like, oh, yeah,
like Many would Be King, where they pretend that they are,
you know, reincarnated. Sean Connery attends that he's a reincarnation
of Alexander the Great and they dupe this tribe as
if he's the savior of their tribe.
Speaker 5: And he's like, yes, how did you know this? Like, well, again,
I've read this stuff.
Speaker 4: I know about Rodyard Kipling. I know it was a Mason,
But I'm wondering, is that how you view religion? That
you're sort of the Sean Connery Michael Caine Duper's Delight,
guys who think that you can craft a religion, the
craft whereby you do put people into thinking that you
have all these mysteries and it's really just a way
to manage humankind, spy on them and have networks of
control essentially, is what I think it was.
Speaker 5: And anyway, that was a little too much.
Speaker 4: For that guy because he was just like, well, well,
we're not involved in conspiracies. There's no conspiracies. Now we
might have had a hand in the American Revolution. Well,
then that's being involved in conspiracy, wouldn't that be Well
maybe in that case, but not generally. Agent. What's up? Hey,
thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: It's okay.
Speaker 14: I don't want to bring the flow.
Speaker 4: If we can go.
Speaker 1: Back on kandas, okay, sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 14: Just before that, I've been dubbing your some of your
clips in French because obviously in the Francophal world we
have absolutely no one like you guys talking.
Speaker 5: You've been putting me.
Speaker 4: You've been putting stuff in the dobe step man, You've
been putting me lyrics and me fire bars into the
doub step brother, you mean you mean dubbing some of.
Speaker 14: Your content, because obviously everyone is not on your level.
Speaker 1: I mean, no one is even talking about the stuff
you guys are talking about.
Speaker 14: So I just went to ask it's okay to take
some of your videos on your channel to dub them
in French.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, yes, everybody should.
Speaker 4: E clip. I tell people working with Francis, there we go.
I'm working with the French Foreign Legion. Candace would say
that guy was a French foreign legion.
Speaker 6: With French foreignlyion Francas.
Speaker 4: Insane exposed right there are foreign legion assassins. I'll tell
you the only foreign Legion person that I would work with.
I think you guys know how I'm going to say.
In fact, it's one of his best movies. And by
the way, this isn't overlooked van dam classic. If you
watch this movie, we'll actually be surprised. It's actually a
really good movie. One of Van Dam's last great projects
was The Legionnaire. And so every time I hear Queen
Candace talking about this. I'm over here.
Speaker 5: I cannot type. Dude, I'm over here thinking about.
Speaker 4: My boy Jean Claude over here, nineteen ninety eight, Your
boy Jean Claude VD right there, the Legionnaire. He's forced
into joining the French Foreign Legion. And it's actually a
really good movie. So if you're looking for a forgotten
van dam, I recommend it. It's motor go.
Speaker 10: Ahead, jesui ucien complain, Oh.
Speaker 4: Do getting fancy over here speaking damn at and the ship?
What's up?
Speaker 5: It's motor on you.
Speaker 1: Hey man.
Speaker 19: He kind of pulled some stitches on me the other day.
Speaker 11: Dire the whole uh, dispensationalism, all right, And I'm sorry
if it's off topic.
Speaker 19: Last twelve months I had to explain dispensationalism to somebody.
Speaker 1: It was what I was taught.
Speaker 19: Molly, don't have a lot of shake for religion, that
kind of you know, I mean, it plugged all the
whole theology wise. I mean, can you maybe expand more
if it's just a cliptore it's of how how what
would be another way to look at, you know, the
whole paradigm, because I mean, I know we're not an accident.
Speaker 1: You know, we don't accidentally.
Speaker 19: Become humans and it's perfect of an equit, you know,
piece of.
Speaker 1: Nature whatever that we are.
Speaker 11: But yeah, man, if you could kind of give me
some like idea where to look as well as to
people I might read, because.
Speaker 4: That's can you just stay where the question is, I'll
confuse as to where the question is, all right, So.
Speaker 11: It's in explaining God's drastic difference between how.
Speaker 10: He has treated humanity.
Speaker 1: As a whole.
Speaker 11: In theology, all right, dispensationalism Old Testament was God the Father, Matthew.
Speaker 1: Mark, Luke John and part of Acts is God the Son.
Speaker 11: And then.
Speaker 1: Confused, am I okay.
Speaker 4: Well, hey, look appreciate it's okay, thank you for your question.
Dispensationalism is the idea that God had different plans for
different people at different time periods. Right, So there's like
an endemic period based on the decision that Am and
Eve would make. Then it's the period of Noah and Abraham.
And so it's not covenant theology. It's that God is
changing the plans and doing different things with different groups.
So there's a dual covenant theology, a dual track where
there's a promise to the Israelites in Genesis twelve that
can never be revoked. That's always about the land in Israel, right,
you heard this from Huckeby. Huckeby was exemplifying this in
the Tucker debate, and he was like, the children of
Abraham always have that promise from Genesis twelve fifteen seventeen.
It's like Galatians three says that promise is to Christians
baptized into Christ. So no, the answer is that it's
not always to the genetic descendants. And Tucker did a
great job in that debate of showing the absurdity of
everything that Huckabee tried to use as a justification. So
that's dispensationalism, and it also has a pretty elaborate end
times theology of the rapture and the millennium and all
that and the restoration of animal sacrifices. However, Marcianism is
the idea that there's different deities involved in different time periods,
or that the Old Testament God was the era of
an evil, mean god, and then Jesus came as this
nice God of love and he overthrows the mean God
of the Old Testament. That's the Marcianite view and all
of those are incorrect. Now, this guy's going crazy with superchats.
He seems to be bothered by something. So let's see
what his problem is.
Speaker 5: I thank you for.
Speaker 4: Sending me all this money, but let's see what your
issue is here with all these super chats. So he
says jail bots dot Com, I'm ready to debate. I'm
in the spaces. Okay, who are you? Where are you?
I don't see anybody called jail bots. You send me
like one hundred dollars, so you're welcome to come home
and debate jail bots twenty dollars. I will go on
camera to prove I'm in Russia. Oh is this RF?
This is that same guy? You do not want to
engage in Candace's claims. No, this is a different guy.
I know I'm ready to engage in Candas's claims right now.
What are you talking about? I didn't make the claims
Candace did. Tristan said, look it up. It's hilarious. They
are a low IQ. You're calling her low IQ. Okay,
is this the other guy? I think this is the
other guy. Jail Bots says, I.
Speaker 5: Will go on camera to prove I'm in Russia.
Speaker 4: Jay, stop running discuss the fifty takeover Department of Defense.
Human feud going on. I have no idea what you're
talking about. Bro. You just picked the jew Milty Industrial
Complex SIMP for your EO. Bro, Dude, you sound skitzo.
I have no idea what you're talking about. You didn't
even research title ten versus fifty struggles beforehand. You got
to I've been reading this stuff for twenty six years.
The fact that you found some conspiracy website with some
nonsense doesn't tell me anything. Ask Metropolitan Joan about me.
I am on the board of Saint Demetrio's about what.
I have no idea what you're even talking about.
Speaker 5: I disagree with you.
Speaker 4: And he blocked me. I don't know who you are.
I'm sending you money from Russia.
Speaker 1: The guy that was in here talking.
Speaker 6: To us man, the guy that was that was saying
trust me, is the Cantas has all the evidence of
the Egyptian playing Gang Stocking.
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not interested in any more engagement, So have
fun with whatever you're about.
Speaker 10: The dispensationalist rapture thing you were talking about.
Speaker 1: So the entire twenty the.
Speaker 13: End of the twentieth century in the twenty first century
that we're now living through.
Speaker 1: If anybody is interested in this, he needed to go
look up a little book called The.
Speaker 20: Late Great Planet Earth by hell Lindsay, because that is
the model that the powers that you're running on. I'm
not saying that that's a true worldview. I'm saying that
that's what.
Speaker 1: They think is mabesting into.
Speaker 13: Reality, and then they themselves are helping manifested in reality.
And Hal Lindsay with his goofy book that he wrote
in nineteen seventy three but leased off of weird dispensationalist
eschatology literally brief the Pentagon of Ronald Reagan and multiple
people in the military, and has created a ripple effect
that is now affecting our world current. It has trickled
down and literally the reason you have Calvary Chapel pastors
that are all you know, former military or formal former
CIA is because of that book, and those are the
people who are guiding this you know, coronal world view.
Speaker 4: Okay, so we were talking about that ten years ago.
Speaker 5: Okay, so is this the guy that was thoughtful that
claimed he was.
Speaker 4: In Russia the first guy? But he's got a different
handle over here, So I mean, I'm confused as to
who's who thoughtful. If you want to tell me your
handle and you want to come back and if you
want to have a debate, that's fine, but you're gonna
sit here and call us low IQ when we're using
the exact same argument to illustrate why it's not a
good argument. Don't come in here and calling us low
IQ and then get mad that I booted you. You
called us low IQ. We're not low IQ. So you're
just falling into emotionalism. And if you want to come
back in, when he read them in a row, they
sounded worse than when it happened. Okay again, dude, we
don't know what you're talking about. You're spurring out about
random ass military Industrial Complex documents, and let's go one
at a time. I'm happy to address and debate every
single topic one at a time. So jailbots, you give
me your handle. It was thoughtful something? Uh, And I
will unblock you because I can't why was he booted
because he's just spamming nonsense. I have no idea what
he's talking about. You didn't read those document and you
have low IQ. Dude, we're not low IQ. And the
fact that you know Metropolitan Jonah, I don't care about that.
What is that supposed to prove to me? A lot
of people know about Metropolitan Jonah. So what it's like,
you don't have to give me your cred, you know,
your street cred. Just come make coherent arguments. Okay, I'm
glad that you want to support but why are you
going to say you're gonna support me and then you're
gonna call us all low IQ? I mean you got
clergy here too. It's not just me, it's also intelligent.
People have been studying this stuff for twenty years.
Speaker 1: Chie on seventy IQ.
Speaker 5: I heard that.
Speaker 4: I heard that you had six million IQ, six guerrillion IQ.
Speaker 1: What's the Chinese guy that runs around?
Speaker 4: Yeah? That guy, by the way, I think people pointed
out that he was he owns the website. That okay thoughtful?
Uh yeah, thoughtful. I am unmuting you, so you can
come back here. And by the way, okay, you're unmuted,
So come come explain to us why we're supposed to do.
You understand if Candae is a clock, a broken clock
right twice a day, that's not good enough to be
a source for this type of information. I don't understand
why you would find to take issue with that. And
when I said that, you tried to walk it back. Well, okay,
maybe she's not. The debate is whether she's credible. Okay, Well,
brother Nathaniel is not credible and he raises legitimate questions
at times. Does that mean I should listen to Brother
Nathaniel because he's absolutely insane, so.
Speaker 5: Thoughtful, you are unblocked.
Speaker 4: Come back and convince us of why we're supposed to
listen to Candas in your argument about the Egyptian planes.
It didn't prove anything. What is the Egyptian plane supposed
to prove? You just argued, go ahead.
Speaker 6: He's going back to what he was saying, if I
remember correctly, First he said, well, you guys shouldn't just
brush aside Candace. I think she basically was saying that
she does a lot of good, you know, the benefits.
Speaker 1: Outweigh the negative aspects.
Speaker 6: And then he said, uh, he brought up Alice Jones, right,
So I think part of his thing is he might
have a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of a grudge against Alex. Yeah, that was part of
his line.
Speaker 6: Breasoning was, well, then we got to Alex Joe instand,
we have to disregard everything else.
Speaker 1: John said, because you've been wrong about this, this or this.
Speaker 6: I think it really comes down more if it just
kind of personally enjoys Candace. And look, it's fine if
you enjoy her like I will. I give you permission
to enjoy Canvas. We're just like, we're giving our opinions.
Speaker 1: We don't think there's a valid you know.
Speaker 6: Uh, we think that it's it's somewhat even I think
it's somewhat dangerous kind of what she's doing. I think
she's making a little weird cult all around her.
Speaker 1: Her thing, and I think it's I think it's silly.
But I mean I got friends who listen to Candace.
I don't dislike my friends listening to Candace. So don't
take it personal.
Speaker 15: I get it.
Speaker 1: I know you don't just like