1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on. Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,480 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,640 go to dpeakclendarshow dot com, make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,719 smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,359 your support. So once again, today's show will be abbreviated, 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,880 but extra long if you will. So it's going to 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,359 be abbreviated. The radio side is going to be abbreviated 12 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:42,719 because we have the tar Heel Game. We normally put 13 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:46,399 the show out as three episodes. Basically every single day 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,240 is a podcast, but because we are preempted at one thirty, 15 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:52,560 an hour and a half into the three hour show, 16 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,799 we're just gonna cram it all into one single podcast 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,079 today because the tar Heels one blew out notere Dame yesterday, 18 00:01:02,719 --> 00:01:05,840 and that means they're going to be facing Wake Forest 19 00:01:06,599 --> 00:01:10,519 starting at one thirty right here on WBT. Wake is 20 00:01:10,599 --> 00:01:14,159 the number four seed and basically they're both trying to 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,959 secure a spot in the NCAA Tournament. So we'll see 22 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,840 what happens. But either way, we'll be back to our 23 00:01:21,879 --> 00:01:27,159 full show on Friday. Win or lose, doesn't matter. We 24 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,200 are back to the full show on Friday. Alrighty, So 25 00:01:31,359 --> 00:01:35,040 last night we had the State of the State address. 26 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:41,359 This was our new governor, Josh Stein aka Roy two 27 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:46,120 D two because he's a protege of Roy Cooper, our 28 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:49,439 former attorney General. Josh Stein now the governor. This is 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,359 his first address. He's only been in the office for 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,079 what ten weeks, I want to say, and so you know, 31 00:01:57,599 --> 00:01:59,599 it's there's not a lot that he can kind of 32 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:04,959 tout at this point. So these kinds of speeches at 33 00:02:04,959 --> 00:02:09,000 the very beginning of your term and you've not been 34 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:11,479 governor before, a lot of it is just going to 35 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:16,800 be sort of predictive. You know, you're going to hopefully, 36 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,599 you know, try to rally people to a vision. And honestly, 37 00:02:21,039 --> 00:02:23,960 I thought he did a decent job. He's not a Republican. 38 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,280 I don't expect him to do or say Republican things, 39 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,719 but I will say I did catch a whiff of Obama. 40 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,879 I caught a whiff of Obama Esque language with the whole. 41 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,879 Remember when Barack Obama ran for his in the first 42 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:46,439 race in two thousand and eight, when he beat John McCain, 43 00:02:48,199 --> 00:02:53,560 Obama towards the end of the campaign sounded almost like 44 00:02:53,599 --> 00:02:58,879 if I hadn't heard Obama's speeches throughout that campaign, if 45 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:01,039 I didn't know anything about the guy. As a lot 46 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:04,080 of voters did not know anything about the guy before 47 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,080 they went to cast their vote for him in two 48 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,199 thousand and eight, they could have been forgiven for thinking 49 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,439 that this guy was like a Reagan Democrat kind of 50 00:03:13,479 --> 00:03:16,479 a candidate, almost like a blue dog. He wasn't, but 51 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:20,039 that's what he sounded like, and it was captured in 52 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,400 that famous phrase, there are no red states, there are 53 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:26,520 no blue states. There are only the United States. And 54 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,520 that is an aspirational thing that's uniting, and it gave 55 00:03:30,599 --> 00:03:35,560 people some bit of comfort, right. It assuaged concerns that 56 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:40,280 he was going to govern like a radical leftist, like 57 00:03:40,319 --> 00:03:44,840 he's some community organizer out of Chicago, and so that 58 00:03:45,479 --> 00:03:48,639 allayed a lot of fears. Now, of course he didn't 59 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,879 govern like that, but that's what he was pitching in 60 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:57,240 the final days to try to win over. As Rush 61 00:03:57,319 --> 00:03:59,520 used to call him, the mushy middle right, the so 62 00:03:59,639 --> 00:04:04,080 called quote moderates, and it was successful. Now, he lost 63 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:09,599 a lot of those moderates in the re election against 64 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:14,520 Mitt Romney, but it was a successful strategy the first 65 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,920 time around. And I caught a whiff of that kind 66 00:04:17,959 --> 00:04:22,439 of language last night in Josh Stein's State of the 67 00:04:22,439 --> 00:04:26,759 State speech. And maybe he will actually attempt to govern 68 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,519 more as a moderate. He might, I we're gonna wait. 69 00:04:31,519 --> 00:04:34,920 I mean, we're gonna find out. And the first big 70 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:37,560 test is going to be what comes forth out of 71 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,040 the legislature with their budget proposal, because that's what he 72 00:04:42,199 --> 00:04:47,240 kind of ran through last night. Some you could call 73 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,839 them positive signs. I guess I would consider it to 74 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,279 be kind of a positive sign that he you know, 75 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:58,879 he called for the top priority, as did the response 76 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,759 from the Speaker of the House Hall and I have 77 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:06,920 some audio from his address also, but they both seem 78 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,319 to be on the same page with regards to the 79 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:16,600 top priority being Helene relief western North Carolina recovery efforts 80 00:05:16,959 --> 00:05:20,360 after Hurricane Helen. One of the things that I took 81 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,439 away that was I think a bit of a positive 82 00:05:23,079 --> 00:05:28,000 is that he told the General Assembly that he is 83 00:05:28,079 --> 00:05:34,240 ready to sign their next recovery bill, which is the 84 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,000 five hundred million dollar bill. Remember he had come out 85 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,319 and this is sort of classic Democrat governor strategy against 86 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,279 a Republican legislature, which is whatever the legislature is proposing, basically, 87 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,639 just double that and then say you care more about 88 00:05:50,639 --> 00:05:54,120 the problem, and then you can veto everything under the 89 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,040 sun and say it's because you care more that you're 90 00:05:57,079 --> 00:05:59,319 blocking all the funding for the things that you care 91 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,839 about because you wanted I want a thirty percent pay 92 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,120 raise for teachers, and I'm only getting a fifteen percent 93 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,360 pay raise, and so that's not enough. I'm going to 94 00:06:09,439 --> 00:06:11,720 veto it. And then the you know, the media and 95 00:06:11,759 --> 00:06:15,240 the Democrats, but I repeat myself, will celebrate you as 96 00:06:15,319 --> 00:06:19,319 you know, being the defender of the teachers or something, 97 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:23,199 and so like that's the strategy has been the strategy, 98 00:06:23,199 --> 00:06:26,920 and so far on the relief and recovery funding aspect, 99 00:06:27,399 --> 00:06:32,279 that's what Stein has been doing. But last night he 100 00:06:32,399 --> 00:06:35,040 said he would sign the bill when it comes to him, 101 00:06:35,079 --> 00:06:38,199 the five hundred million dollars and urge them to approve it. 102 00:06:38,519 --> 00:06:42,639 So that indicated to me that maybe he's like that's 103 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,800 an olive branch. This is a Okay, I want a 104 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,680 billion dollars. You've carved out five hundred million. We all 105 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,199 know that this is not a recovery that's going to 106 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,240 be done in a week. This is going to be 107 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,439 a long term thing. So there are going to be 108 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,319 more recovery bills. That would be an honest policy approach, right, 109 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,279 But too often you end up with politicians that demagogue 110 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:10,199 these issues, which I think Roy Cooper was particularly guilty of. 111 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,399 And instead of just saying, okay, you're doing this one bill, 112 00:07:14,439 --> 00:07:17,160 we have more bills coming down the pike. That's great, 113 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:21,920 let's keep doing more bills. Instead of instead of encouraging 114 00:07:21,959 --> 00:07:25,360 more bills and supporting the ones that come through, it 115 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,720 was you know, I want more money, You're not giving 116 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,279 me more money, so you're evil, and that does not 117 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,879 inspire cooperation. So maybe this is a maybe this is 118 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,600 going to be a good idea, a good approach. Right, 119 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:47,839 we'll see my advice on I don't I don't know, Okay, 120 00:07:48,079 --> 00:07:50,120 I don't know what caller Bill wants to talk about. 121 00:07:50,639 --> 00:07:53,759 So I guess if Bill wants to hang on during 122 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:56,079 the break, I'll talk to Bill. I have no idea 123 00:07:56,079 --> 00:07:57,639 what that comment is on the board. I thought it 124 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,319 may have been about the about the budget. We have 125 00:08:00,399 --> 00:08:02,319 audio from the State of the State speech. I pulled 126 00:08:02,319 --> 00:08:05,439 some of the clips from the speech last night. Also, 127 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,839 I would point out that the Democrat female lawmakers, a 128 00:08:09,839 --> 00:08:13,560 lot of them, were wearing white, which is what the 129 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,480 Democrats on Capitol Hill were doing and have been doing. 130 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:22,399 It's like a women's suffrage thing, It's like a protest 131 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:25,000 or whatever. But they wore it at last night's State 132 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,279 of the State speech for their own Democrat governor. 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He began the speech, 165 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,200 I think appropriately by talking about, you know, the worst 166 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,399 natural disaster to ever hit North Carolina. 167 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: Assuming this office's responsibility has led to prayer and reflection. 168 00:10:23,799 --> 00:10:27,799 When any of us faces an important challenge, we search 169 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:32,159 for strength. Strength to rise to the occasion, strength to 170 00:10:32,159 --> 00:10:36,519 reach across differences in search of common ground, strength to 171 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,960 stand up for what we know is right, Strength to 172 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,360 meet the moments. Sometimes you don't know how strong you 173 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:49,240 are until you were put to the test. Hurricane Helene 174 00:10:49,639 --> 00:10:54,080 and it's horrific aftermath, tested our state and our people 175 00:10:54,159 --> 00:10:59,080 in unprecedented ways. The storm flooded western North Carolina, stealing 176 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:03,080 too many lives from us and devastating too many communities. 177 00:11:03,799 --> 00:11:07,639 But in the days, weeks, and months that followed, I 178 00:11:07,759 --> 00:11:11,480 have seen, we have all seen that the state of 179 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:15,600 our state is strong, North Carolina strong. 180 00:11:17,159 --> 00:11:20,399 Speaker 1: Perfectly appropriate. I think that was the right note to 181 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:26,360 start on. I know people in western North Carolina want 182 00:11:26,399 --> 00:11:29,200 to feel like they have not been forgotten, and honestly, 183 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:32,960 there have been times over the last six months where 184 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:37,759 they may have felt that way because it seemed like that. 185 00:11:38,879 --> 00:11:43,039 So I thought it was good to focus on something 186 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,080 that's unifying. This is something that everybody in the state 187 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,159 should be on the same page about, and honestly, I 188 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,600 feel like we are. I'm not aware of anybody that's 189 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,080 running around saying that we shouldn't be focusing on western 190 00:11:56,159 --> 00:12:01,440 North Carolina recovery. He then highlighted tax cuts as good, 191 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,960 and then he opposed tax cuts or something like that. 192 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: We can cut taxes to help families manage the cost 193 00:12:09,399 --> 00:12:12,440 of raising a child. We can cut taxes to make 194 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:17,320 childcare more affordable. We can cut taxes on working families 195 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,279 to put more money in their pockets, lift children out 196 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:25,360 of poverty, and stimulate local economies. These three targeted tax 197 00:12:25,399 --> 00:12:28,840 cuts are what being pro family looks like. 198 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,639 Speaker 1: There's no mention by the way of the standard deduction 199 00:12:35,879 --> 00:12:38,879 on any of this stuff, So I'm guessing rich people 200 00:12:38,919 --> 00:12:41,000 are also going to get these weak tax cots. 201 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:44,639 Speaker 3: Them and still meet our critical education, healthcare, and public 202 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,480 safety needs. 203 00:12:46,279 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: But we won't be able to make. 204 00:12:48,399 --> 00:12:52,159 Speaker 3: These necessary investments if we do not address the self 205 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,519 inflicted fiscal cliff that we face in a couple of years, 206 00:12:55,799 --> 00:12:58,399 especially given today's economic. 207 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: Uncertainties in the road. 208 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,279 Speaker 3: When it comes to our budget, we can go ahead 209 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:07,919 with the nearly ten billion dollars in tax giveaways over 210 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,200 the next four years, mainly to the wealthy and to 211 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,080 corporate shareholders. And by the way, very few of those 212 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,720 shareholders are North call Indians. 213 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: Most of them aren't even American. 214 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 3: Or we can help our neighbors recover from Hurricane Aleen, 215 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:28,759 invest in our public safety and public schools, provide targeted 216 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,120 tax cuts to support our working families and keep up 217 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,240 with the needs of our. 218 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,519 Speaker 1: Fast growing population. So what is it going to be? 219 00:13:38,279 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 3: Are we going to give money to out of state 220 00:13:40,039 --> 00:13:45,039 shareholders or invest in North Carolina families? We cannot afford 221 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,240 to do both. We should choose North Carolina's children's and 222 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:50,919 family every time. 223 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,799 Speaker 1: All right, I detect, I detect a false choice, everybody. 224 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:03,679 There's a false choice in those comments, right, giveaways versus investment? 225 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,279 What is he talking about these shareholders that aren't even 226 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:11,080 an American. He's talking about foreign investment by companies. And 227 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,960 the Republicans have been over the course of over a 228 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,000 decade knocking down the corporate tax rate and the individual 229 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,679 tax rates. They've been bringing down the tax rates. And 230 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,120 so when he talks about quote giveaways, that's what he's 231 00:14:25,159 --> 00:14:27,679 talking about, the same guy who will go out there 232 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,519 with an oversized, ridiculous pair of scissors and cut ribbons 233 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:37,159 to announce tax giveaways to corporations to relocate here is 234 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,879 giving you a false dichotomy, a false choice, saying, Oh, 235 00:14:41,919 --> 00:14:47,960 it's either the children's or it's the foreign shareholders. Yeah. 236 00:14:48,279 --> 00:14:51,240 And so it's like, dang it. I was so hoping 237 00:14:51,279 --> 00:14:53,840 he would be more of a, you know, a unifier 238 00:14:54,039 --> 00:14:57,679 type of a candidate here. But you know, we shall 239 00:14:57,759 --> 00:15:00,559 see if this is just rhetoric that he's throwing out 240 00:15:00,559 --> 00:15:04,279 there for the Democrats in the chamber, or is he 241 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:07,879 actually going to make this sort of a centerpiece like 242 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,600 Roy Cooper did of his gubernatorial term. All right, hey, 243 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:13,960 real quick, if you would like to get your product 244 00:15:14,039 --> 00:15:17,200 or service in front of about ten thousand people multiple 245 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,679 times a day, send me an email at Pete at 246 00:15:19,759 --> 00:15:23,120 the Pete calendarshow dot com and ask me about advertising. 247 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,840 It's super affordable, it's baked into this podcast forever, and 248 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,279 podcasts have a higher conversion rate than other social media platforms, 249 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,519 making it the best bang for your buck. 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It's always 256 00:15:52,679 --> 00:15:54,840 the best privilege there is in Americas be able to 257 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:56,159 talk to you peek calendar. 258 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 3: Wow. 259 00:15:56,799 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know if I'm going to live up 260 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,399 to that, but okay, I'll take it. 261 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,159 Speaker 4: So anyway, you know, in the national politics stage, we 262 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:08,399 got like the past administration kind of was probably with 263 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:12,240 the deep state in Obama and probably Pelosi and the 264 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,000 Clintons baby were in influence there. Do we do? We 265 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,639 have the possible same thing in state politics. And I 266 00:16:20,919 --> 00:16:23,279 want to refer back to the several past year or 267 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:26,200 two that you've always thrown out there with our good 268 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,080 friend Ray Cooper. He I don't know if he had 269 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,279 been astratively pulled out some people and replaced him, but 270 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,120 you did, I know, you did tell us that there 271 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:39,279 were several people he would primary because they weren't I 272 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,240 want to say your words. Was he wasn't they weren't 273 00:16:41,279 --> 00:16:41,960 liberal enough. 274 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they would, Yeah, they wouldn't support his they weren't. 275 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:49,840 They weren't falling in line behind whatever his priorities were 276 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,360 or his vetoes were. 277 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, and the way and the way I get that 278 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,559 from you correct if I'm wrong, but that it seems 279 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,759 like there was, so that lends a power to him 280 00:17:00,039 --> 00:17:02,799 where he got an influence. So my question kind of 281 00:17:02,799 --> 00:17:05,880 comes down with Josh Stein and do you think that 282 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,240 there's a big influence with him on Josh Stein? 283 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:13,519 Speaker 1: So yeah, man, that's a yeah. 284 00:17:13,599 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 4: Can we quantify that and then really we can pick 285 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:17,880 it out and see it in the future. 286 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:23,039 Speaker 1: So it's a fair question. Josh Stein is using a 287 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:27,079 lot of the same personnel that Roy Cooper used, political 288 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:32,079 consultants and stuff like that. Right, So there I expect 289 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:36,599 to see similar kinds of tactics. Now, will Josh Stein 290 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:43,640 get involved in primaries against insufficiently loyal or I guess 291 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,799 disloyal Democrats in the legislature? I don't know. I don't 292 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:51,240 know if he's had Yeah, I mean because Josh Stein, 293 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,039 you know, came out of a different era than Roy 294 00:17:55,079 --> 00:17:58,319 Cooper did. Roy Cooper was in the legislature when Democrats 295 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,359 ruled the roost right like they never had to care 296 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,480 what Republicans thought. And Josh Stein comes of age in 297 00:18:05,559 --> 00:18:08,559 a different era when Republicans were in charge, and so 298 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,519 maybe he is not as inclined to, uh, to engage 299 00:18:12,519 --> 00:18:16,599 in that kind of effort, that kind of overtly, you know, 300 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,200 political effort. I don't know, but I think he does 301 00:18:20,319 --> 00:18:25,559 have aspirations beyond the governor's mansion. And so I think 302 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:28,599 if he is thinking in those terms, he's going to 303 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:35,720 want to piggyback onto Roy Cooper's national fundraising machine that 304 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,559 Cooper built. So I think I don't know, Like I 305 00:18:39,599 --> 00:18:42,640 can't predict which way this may come as a shock. 306 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,079 But the Democrats don't ever tell me why they're thinking 307 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,480 what they're thinking. They ever you got. 308 00:18:49,279 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 4: That insight, though, so and that my only thing is 309 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:54,920 so when I say if we can quantify it, if 310 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,160 there and I didn't, I didn't mean that Josh Stein 311 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,559 would do what he's he he did because I'm saying 312 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:05,400 that influence is on Cooper. What I'm saying in his 313 00:19:05,519 --> 00:19:09,119 decision making, could we possibly see that's a Roy Cooper 314 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,720 thing compared to Stein. And I'm guessing we don't have 315 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,079 enough information on Josh Stein to really quantify that, but 316 00:19:16,079 --> 00:19:17,839 it wouldn't be right to be able to see that's 317 00:19:17,839 --> 00:19:19,119 definitely a Roy Cooper thing. 318 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I think, yeah, yeah, no, I think 319 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,400 that's right, Chris. I think like I'm watching and waiting 320 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,359 to see how he actually governs, and I think this 321 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,680 budget is going to be the first example that we 322 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,640 shall see. I'm not aware of him throwing his weight 323 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,519 around like Cooper did before. Remember Cooper before he even won, 324 00:19:40,559 --> 00:19:42,680 when he was attorney general, but he had been attorney 325 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,440 general for sixteen years prior, and he was a leader 326 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,640 in the state Senate. He was a very big part 327 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,920 of the Democrat machine. So he had that political weight 328 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,359 to throw around. I don't know if Stein has that. 329 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:00,920 And you know, when Cooper was running against MCA, remember 330 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,480 he told his fellow Democrats they will have no role 331 00:20:03,599 --> 00:20:09,200 in his in his term if they were to help 332 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:14,759 undo HB two before the election. He wanted that issue 333 00:20:14,799 --> 00:20:18,119 to remain so it would help him politically at the 334 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,039 detriment to the state, according to him, right, he wanted 335 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,839 the state residents to hurt and so, but he thought 336 00:20:24,839 --> 00:20:27,519 that was good. That was a good trade off for 337 00:20:27,599 --> 00:20:30,799 his own personal political ambition. I have not seen something 338 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:32,960 similar yet from Stein. So I think when we get 339 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,279 the budget, he's going to make his proposal, the legislature 340 00:20:36,319 --> 00:20:39,039 is going to come forward with their ideas, and will 341 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,039 Stein find a reason to veto. I think that's going 342 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,440 to be the thing for me. Is Stein going to 343 00:20:45,519 --> 00:20:49,519 find some sort of fig leaf reason to veto the 344 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:55,720 budget in order to fundraise off of it? Yeah, that's 345 00:20:55,519 --> 00:20:58,680 that's what I say, Chris. I appreciate the call Buddy thinks, 346 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,119 and I don't know how it's going to shape up yet. 347 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,480 And then after you get the budget, then we're going 348 00:21:05,559 --> 00:21:08,519 to be moving into the next election cycle. And at 349 00:21:08,599 --> 00:21:12,480 that point we'll see if he starts like cracking the 350 00:21:12,519 --> 00:21:18,119 whip on Democrat lawmakers those who are not sufficiently in 351 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,680 line with, you know, his budget proposals, or if he 352 00:21:21,799 --> 00:21:25,160 vetoes the budget, do any Democrats cross him in order 353 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,240 to get stuff? Does he then try to primary them? 354 00:21:28,599 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 2: Like? 355 00:21:28,839 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: All of that is uncharted territory. I think right now 356 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,160 with regard to Josh Stein, we saw the way Cooper 357 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,519 behaved and honestly it didn't hurt him. It didn't right 358 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,559 like the media still loved him. They gave him all 359 00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,960 the softball questions, and he got to skate past all 360 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:52,079 of the national scandals of the failure to respond to 361 00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:56,240 natural disasters adequately, so he got a pass. That's what 362 00:21:56,279 --> 00:21:59,759 democrat privilege looks like. So there's a lot of room 363 00:21:59,839 --> 00:22:03,839 for Stying to run if he wants to be a 364 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:11,519 clone of Roy Cooper. Another Star Wars reference. 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Governor Josh 386 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,039 Stein took to the joint session of the House and 387 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,640 Senate last night delivered his State of the State's speech. 388 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,599 And whenever he talks about investments, he's talking about more spending. 389 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,519 When he talks about quote giveaways, he's talking about tax 390 00:23:33,559 --> 00:23:37,440 cuts and tax cuts for the wrong people. See he 391 00:23:38,079 --> 00:23:41,400 touted tax cuts for the right people. He's in support 392 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,519 of that, but he's against tax cuts for those other people. 393 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,720 They're double plus on good unless, of course, he's handing 394 00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:51,240 them a big bag of cash to relocate into the 395 00:23:51,279 --> 00:23:53,839 state so he can do a big photo op. That's 396 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,400 a different type of giveaway, which isn't a giveaway, that's 397 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,720 an investment. See how that works. Okay, Then he pitched 398 00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:06,880 what seems to be kind of like doge at a 399 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,079 state level. 400 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,839 Speaker 3: Of course, we have to be fiscally prudent, to be 401 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,160 smart about how we invest our taxpayers' dollars. 402 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,519 Speaker 1: That's why I'm directing my budget. 403 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 3: Office to set up the Impact Center to ensure that 404 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,160 our government is run effectively and efficiently, because people should 405 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,640 know that their taxpayer dollars are being well spent. 406 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,839 Speaker 1: I thought Doge was bad. Wait, but let's get it right. 407 00:24:37,559 --> 00:24:41,519 Speaker 3: Let's use a scalpel, not a chainsaw. 408 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: Oh you see what he did there the chainsaw. 409 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:52,599 Speaker 3: Right today, the state of North Carolina is strong. Let's 410 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:57,000 invest to keep it that way. That includes investing in 411 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,039 our teachers. 412 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: Okay, And then he's going to pivot in to the 413 00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:03,799 teacher pay issue and stuff. He wants starting teacher salaries 414 00:25:03,839 --> 00:25:07,680 to be the highest in the Southeast, which coincidentally is 415 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,759 exactly what the Republican lawmakers have proposed. They're running a bill, right, 416 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:15,079 We've talked about it. I think last week we went 417 00:25:15,079 --> 00:25:18,799 over the details of the teacher pay bill, and he 418 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,160 said this is an area where Democrats and Republicans can 419 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,079 work together. Now, the question in my mind is will 420 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:31,319 they Will Democrats work with the Republicans or will they 421 00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:36,319 make demands that Republicans just cave to whatever the Democrat 422 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:42,000 demands are and then if Republicans don't cave, then they 423 00:25:42,039 --> 00:25:46,240 will vote against it, right, That's how I see it 424 00:25:46,279 --> 00:25:48,400 playing out, or they will vote against it as part 425 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,319 of the larger budget bill, which will probably also continue 426 00:25:54,039 --> 00:26:00,200 school vouchers school choice, and that usually is enough for 427 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:04,240 Democrats to oppose any budget bill. If it's got voucher 428 00:26:04,279 --> 00:26:08,400 money in it, Democrats oppose it. Roy Cooper did this 429 00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:13,400 vetowing budgets, and Democrat lawmakers have done this. So it's 430 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,720 like Democrats still haven't realized even though it's been fourteen 431 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,119 years since they last held majority power, they still don't 432 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,160 realize that they don't dictate the terms of the budget 433 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,440 any longer. It's pretty amazing. And then yes, Josh Stein 434 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,400 pivoted to attack school choice. 435 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:35,519 Speaker 3: North Carolina is forty eighth in the nation and per 436 00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:41,480 pupil investment, let that sink in forty eight. We should 437 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,240 not be taking money from our public school kids to 438 00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:49,160 pay wealthy parents sending their kids to unaccountable private schools 439 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:52,759 to the tune of seven and a half billion dollars 440 00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:54,359 over the next decade. 441 00:26:55,079 --> 00:26:59,799 Speaker 1: Over a decade, So that's over a decade. Meanwhile, the 442 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:05,319 budget annually is like thirty two billion dollars every year, okay, 443 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,279 So just to put that in perspective. Also, ap Dyllan 444 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,880 writing over at her substack. More to the story is 445 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,279 what it's called. According to twenty twenty four statistical data 446 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:21,920 from the North Carolina Department of Instruction, the average per 447 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:28,359 student spending across state, federal, and local sources was thirteen 448 00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:32,920 two hundred twenty two, with state funding accounting for just 449 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,799 under sixty percent of that total. It's fifty nine point 450 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:41,839 seven percent okay, between nineteen seventy and twenty twenty one. 451 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,160 So over the course of fifty years, data from the 452 00:27:45,279 --> 00:27:51,559 National Center for Education Statistics shows the US per student spending, 453 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,279 when adjusted for inflation, has increased one hundred and sixty 454 00:27:56,319 --> 00:27:59,519 four percent. It went from like seventy five hundred dollars 455 00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:03,920 in nineteen seventy to just under twenty thousand dollars in 456 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,200 twenty twenty one, so from seventy five seventy six hundred 457 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:14,119 to twenty grand. And the average per student expenditure in 458 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000 twenty twenty two, when it went up again, was like 459 00:28:17,319 --> 00:28:22,759 sixteen just under sixteen thousand dollars, So thirteen thousand sounds terrible, 460 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:28,839 but the national average is sixteen thousand, So like thirteen 461 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:32,880 thousand dollars a year to educate a kindergartener, to educate 462 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,279 a first grader, a second grader. And by the way, 463 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,319 if you do the math on that, thirteen thousand times 464 00:28:40,519 --> 00:28:43,720 what twenty kids in the class you're at like over 465 00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:48,359 a quarter of a million dollars, right, So if the 466 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,720 teacher's not getting paid a quarter million, that's a lot 467 00:28:50,759 --> 00:28:54,640 of money to educate that classroom, right of twenty kids? 468 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,880 More kids is even more money than that, Like this 469 00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:01,400 math isn't adding upright? Hey, real quick, if you would 470 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,680 like to get your product or service in front of 471 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,000 about ten thousand people multiple times a day, send me 472 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,359 an email at Pete at the peteclendarshow dot com and 473 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,000 ask me about advertising. 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Rob, 484 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:46,039 How are you, sir? 485 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: Not too god? How's it going all right? 486 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: Not too bad? Myself still recovering a little bit, but uh, 487 00:29:51,519 --> 00:29:56,720 I'm running about ninety two percent, ninety three percent. So yeah, 488 00:29:56,759 --> 00:29:59,680 So did you watch the State of the State and 489 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,200 the the State of the State Response? 490 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 2: I did. I've actually watched them both a couple of 491 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:03,599 times though. 492 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:09,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we do. So so, okay, what's the 493 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:13,720 official Libertarian Party response to the State of the State 494 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,240 Address and response? 495 00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:18,119 Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this first, just sort of the thirty 496 00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,359 five thousand foot view of politicsis theater, and I think 497 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,559 from that perspective, they both did their jobs. Stein touched 498 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:28,799 on the topics he wanted to talk about. He brought 499 00:30:28,839 --> 00:30:30,680 in all the SOB stories to go along with it. 500 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,559 The Republican response was very much focused on federal level stuff, 501 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,240 which makes sense to me. I mean, they lost the governorship, 502 00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,640 didn't do great, council state obviously did much better in 503 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,359 the legislature, but Trump Trump won pretty handily here, so 504 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,039 they focused on the Trump priorities and then you know, 505 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,640 we actually we had a livestream response immediately following there's 506 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,079 with our Shair Ryan Brown, and one of the things 507 00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:59,200 he talked about was the Republicans are preaching about fiscal 508 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:03,559 responsibility and yet they're trying to pass another continuing resolution 509 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,480 that is exactly what Biden had last year, which is 510 00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:09,640 sort of ironic to see just the flip where the 511 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,119 Democrats are against it and the Republicans are supporting it, 512 00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:16,920 but in particular are our senators but until it is 513 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,759 not known for being friends of liberty. I don't know 514 00:31:19,799 --> 00:31:22,160 if you saw the Republican Liberty Caucus put out its 515 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,319 Liberty Index score last week for senators and I think 516 00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:28,640 Bud was a sixty five and Tillis was like a 517 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:29,640 fifteen percent. 518 00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: So all right, okay, So the focus on the national 519 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:37,400 stuff because like I've seen some of the strategy laid 520 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,240 out on why doing a CR gets you to a 521 00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:45,519 reconciliation vote, and that's really the prize to implement what 522 00:31:45,559 --> 00:31:48,319 they want to implement from a Doge perspective. But as 523 00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:51,960 far as the state goes, because the state Libertarian Party 524 00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:57,519 in its statement from Ryan Brown, he said that the 525 00:31:58,079 --> 00:32:04,200 party is about bold, solutions driven vision that puts people first, 526 00:32:04,319 --> 00:32:09,000 not political elites, and mentioned or he mentioned week job 527 00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:15,400 market rising, prices, were prices, worsening environment, education system, violent crime, 528 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,480 and a general erosion of our god given rights. So 529 00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:23,480 what specifically is the alternate vision offered by the Libertarian 530 00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:25,960 Party that we did not get last night? 531 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,799 Speaker 2: Sure? And that's my favorite question you could ask, because 532 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:31,799 I would love to go into all of this. So 533 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,039 let's start with just looking at one of the big topics, 534 00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:37,880 which was the response to Hurricane Helen. We saw FIMA 535 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,839 openly on video avoiding people based on who they voted for. 536 00:32:42,319 --> 00:32:45,079 We had a response at both I think the federal 537 00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:48,519 on the state level that at best you can call mediocre. 538 00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:50,640 You know that the Libertarian Party is going to be 539 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,839 against any new taxes, but if we must pay taxes, 540 00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:56,160 shouldn't it be going to helping people out Instead? We 541 00:32:56,279 --> 00:33:01,279 had an office created under Cooper that is still forty 542 00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,200 six hundred families in eastern North Carolina haven't been helped. 543 00:33:04,119 --> 00:33:05,839 Speaker 1: And I think it's a thousand. It's yeah, I think 544 00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:07,440 it's like a thousand. It's like a little bit more 545 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,039 than a thousand is the last number I saw. But yeah, 546 00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:13,440 still it. Yeah they yeah, they're still waiting eight years later. 547 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. And so Stein's response is this, grow n see, 548 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,200 So repeat the same mistakes and ask for money to 549 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,839 throw at it. There's no accountability that goes there. We 550 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,759 are calling for direct responses. We are calling for an 551 00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:31,680 immediate legislative, legislative excuse me, action to eliminate property taxes 552 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,200 on everyone who lost property in the storm. He's talking 553 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,480 about tax cuts for all sorts of other people, and 554 00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:41,119 tax cuts are good for middle class families. Well, okay, 555 00:33:41,279 --> 00:33:42,960 let's get rid of taxes for people who have their 556 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,000 property destroyed and that takes them out of worry about 557 00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:49,079 losing their place right away. And then let's actually put 558 00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,759 accountability on the money that is being going to help 559 00:33:51,799 --> 00:33:55,039 this Recovery's let's really demand some results, to put some 560 00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,960 metrics around it instead of just a bunch of platitudes. 561 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,359 Speaker 1: What about the education component. You heard both of the 562 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,400 Democrat and Republican positions. How does the libertarian position differ. 563 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,599 Speaker 2: So this is one of the ones that's more frustrating 564 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:14,599 for me because we have just seen a slow, steady 565 00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:19,039 decline and outcomes for students over many years. And Ryan 566 00:34:19,119 --> 00:34:21,559 was talking about, you know, we had the lawsuit in 567 00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:24,280 Charlotte over the bussing thing. We've had back and forth 568 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,039 over Leandro for what feels like forever. 569 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: Now, yeah, thirty years, yeah, I mean yeah. 570 00:34:30,119 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: Just and absurdly long amount. So the Republicans passed the 571 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,360 school choice program, which has actually proven to be wildly popular. 572 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,079 The Democrats are coming out very just strongly against it, 573 00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:45,800 but with no alternative plan except to throw more money 574 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,599 at it, but the Republicans failed to adequately budget for 575 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,400 the popularity of it. We're actually, we're really moving towards 576 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,360 this whole idea of free market education where we just 577 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,199 take the education budget, we split it up amongst all 578 00:34:57,199 --> 00:35:01,000 the students absolutely equally, so there's no concern about you know, 579 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,679 these big buzzwords like equity. Everyone has the same and 580 00:35:03,679 --> 00:35:06,639 then you put it towards education. And I know that 581 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,599 sounds there's a lot more that goes into it. Again, 582 00:35:09,679 --> 00:35:12,039 thirty five thousand foot of you trying to be cognizant 583 00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,039 of time, but right, we're really getting into this, so 584 00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:17,679 it's real differentiated of education where every student can do 585 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,079 what is best for him or her. 586 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,159 Speaker 1: So do you do you think that the Republican legislature 587 00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:29,119 doesn't have the stomach to actually keep progressing towards a 588 00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:34,000 school choice model only or like that they'll eventually like 589 00:35:34,039 --> 00:35:36,480 pump the brakes and leave in place sort of a 590 00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:39,159 safety net at minimum of public schools. 591 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,159 Speaker 2: I think that with education, and again politicians, it's all theater. 592 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,639 But you know, you got to get breaded circuses, but 593 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,039 you need to get the applause. So you see this 594 00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:54,760 bipartisan teacher salary raise being proposed, and that makes me 595 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,920 think that they're not really serious, because if you were, 596 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,039 you would be looking for a way toward good teachers 597 00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:05,320 and incentivized programs that are working, while seeking opportunities for 598 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,639 teachers who aren't getting the outcomes they want, either if 599 00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:09,840 it's more training or another job or whatever it may be. 600 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,559 But it's just across the board, let's throw more money 601 00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:16,079 at it. That reeks of you know, old school democratic socialism. 602 00:36:16,159 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: Follow Yeah, well, I do wonder if the strategy on that, 603 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,760 and I don't have any insight on this, but I 604 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,280 do wonder if the strategy is, you know, take that 605 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,719 issue basically off the table, right you you take it 606 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,079 up to a fifty thousand dollars minimum, and if you 607 00:36:31,079 --> 00:36:32,800 think step back and think about that for a moment, 608 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,840 it's a fifty thousand dollars salary for ten months out 609 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:43,239 of the year and very very low cost benefits that 610 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,800 are charged to the employee. So you have that benefit 611 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,239 and you have no experience. Right you're walking in out 612 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,039 of college and you get fifty thousand dollars in two 613 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,880 months off minimum, and you've got the benefits. But once 614 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,559 you do that, now there isn't really any argument to 615 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:08,960 start changing the merit based component, to start saying, okay, 616 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,760 this is now the floor, this is what we're paying. 617 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,039 Now we're going to start tweaking based on merit. And 618 00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:18,440 now I don't know if the Republican legislature will actually 619 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,199 do that, but I see that there's an opening therefore 620 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:21,800 that to occur. 621 00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 2: And certainly, of all the legislation that we would be against, 622 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,519 this is probably a lower priority. You want to pay 623 00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,599 teachers more. There's plenty of people making more that probably 624 00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:34,119 don't deserve it. And I do believe teaching to be 625 00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:38,239 a noble profession in and of itself, but from a 626 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,000 larger sort of political strategy perspective, I think the introduction 627 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:45,880 of this bill indicates more smoke and mirrors and less 628 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,840 intent to really make meaningful change, just like you were 629 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,639 saying before, out of fear of political repercussions. 630 00:37:53,079 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: All right, So anything else stand out for you guys? 631 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,760 With the speech last night. 632 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 2: There were a few things. The sticking with education, This 633 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,840 whole free community college thing. Yeah, I don't know that 634 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,800 there's any chance that would have passed. So again, it 635 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,599 could be more political theater, but it's just you know, 636 00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:15,719 from free community to college, all the way to free lunches. 637 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,320 Like Ryan said specifically in a speech, Governor Stein, would 638 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,920 you say free? Where do you think this money comes from? 639 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,760 It doesn't just materialize. There are problems, and you're taking 640 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:31,719 out of people's pockets, and yeah, an economy, inflation is 641 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,079 getting worse, the job market is starting to slow down. 642 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:35,840 Who knows what these tariffs are going to do. There's 643 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,400 a lot of volatility. I don't think anyone has an 644 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,760 idea it's coming next. And you throwing more money at problems. 645 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is one of those things that was the 646 00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:48,880 hallmark of Democrat control of the state for over a century, 647 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:54,800 which was this, you know, constant patting the budget with 648 00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:00,960 ongoing operational costs, sometimes using one time money, and they 649 00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:04,760 just built themselves into a structural deficit, and you know, 650 00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:07,400 and it led to all sorts of problems about twenty 651 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,239 years ago, which ended up costing Democrats' power. So it's 652 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,960 just kind of like it's more of the same. Yeah, yeah, 653 00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:18,320 see a penny, spend a penny. 654 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 2: And then two of the things that jumped out of 655 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,800 this is real quick one talking about healthcare and bragging 656 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,079 on Medicare for all. If we're serious about fixing healthcare, 657 00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:29,840 it's time to get rid of certificate of need. Just yeah, immediately, 658 00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:33,719 and then I'll give credit where it's due because our 659 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,880 perspective on a lot of the problems with corporations who 660 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,239 do damaging things to people is open them up to liability. 661 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,719 And Stein did go after and again more complicated as 662 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,840 most things are, but he did go after the opiate manufacturers. 663 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,039 But now he's talking about this task force on Sentinel, 664 00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:54,159 and our position is, let's end the war on drugs. 665 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:59,280 You're creating criminals, you're empowering drug lords, you're incentivizing back 666 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:04,320 room market deals. You know, we have Republicans in the 667 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,280 western part of the state talking about a federal law 668 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,760 to take all money away from any state that allows 669 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,800 people to smoke pott in their basements, and we just 670 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,880 it's another situation where we're just going to throw money 671 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,679 at a problem to create a bigger problem. 672 00:40:19,039 --> 00:40:21,639 Speaker 1: Rob Yates is the communications director for the North Carolina 673 00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:27,199 Libertarian Party. You can check out their website LPNC dot org. 674 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,519 That's LPANC dot org. Yes, sir, I appreciate your time, Rob, 675 00:40:30,559 --> 00:40:32,599 Thanks so much, Thank you very much. All right, take care. 676 00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 4: You know. 677 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,840 Speaker 1: Stories are powerful. 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But Destin Hall, 698 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,239 the North Carolina Speaker of the House, offered the Republican response. 699 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,960 He talked about how the gopiece and to took over 700 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,840 control of the legislature about thirteen years ago, crack the 701 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,280 code on how to deliver common sense policies that fuel 702 00:41:55,320 --> 00:42:00,280 growth and protect communities, and he said that this state 703 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,039 has remained an economic powerhouse thanks to GOP leadership. He 704 00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:08,239 says they cut poverty by one third over the past 705 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,960 twelve years. He said Trump's immigration policies will have the 706 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:15,360 full support of the North Carolina General Assembly as well. 707 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,679 Speaker 5: Just last year, the Republican General Assembly enacted legislation that 708 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,320 requires law enforcement to cooperate with eyes to keep criminal 709 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,880 illegal aliens off of our streets. But many Democratic officials 710 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,000 in our state still want to keep pursuing the same 711 00:42:31,079 --> 00:42:35,559 failed open borders policies of the Biden administration. So just 712 00:42:35,599 --> 00:42:38,920 this week, we introduced new legislation to close loop poys 713 00:42:39,159 --> 00:42:42,519 loopholes exploited by those who would seek to turn North 714 00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:47,280 Carolina into a sanctuary state. If local sheriffs avoid cooperating 715 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,519 with federal life officials, the citizens of this state will 716 00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:53,679 hold you accountable. And if you're an illegal alien committing 717 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,920 crimes in our state, you got to go. This is 718 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,639 a common sense policy that the people of our state 719 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,480 overwhelmingly agree with. Another common sense issue is that men 720 00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:07,480 shouldn't be in women's sports or in their private spaces. 721 00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:11,599 Long before President Trump's executive order, the North Carolina General 722 00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:15,360 Assembly passed to Save Women's Sport dat Sports Act to 723 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,599 keep men out of women's sports. It's also common sense 724 00:43:19,639 --> 00:43:23,079 to work to ensure every child in North Carolina has 725 00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:26,920 access to quality education that's right for them, regardless of 726 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,760 their income or zip cake. As we expand educational opportunities, 727 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,719 let's expand opportunities in the traditional k through twelve system, 728 00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:39,639 so that parents have excellent options whether they choose public. 729 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: Or private schools. 730 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:45,199 Speaker 5: Ultimately, it's parents, not bureaucrats, who should choose the best 731 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,920 learning environment for their children. 732 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 2: Right. 733 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,559 Speaker 1: So those were the priorities that the Speaker focused on. 734 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,000 Destin Hall, Speaker of the House focused on tying it 735 00:43:55,039 --> 00:43:58,639 back to national level politics. He also spent a good 736 00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:02,199 bit of time talking about out western North Carolina disaster 737 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,840 relief and recovery, recognizing the resilience of the people of 738 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,840 western North Carolina, and he promised to support that region 739 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,159 for as long as it takes to rebuild. 740 00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 5: I look forward to working in partnership with Governor Stein, 741 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,840 who I know shares might desire to get people back 742 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,679 in their homes as quickly as possible. He and I 743 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,679 both recognized the long road ahead and the need for 744 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,800 us all to rise to the moment, setting aside petty 745 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,679 partisanship for the sake of our neighbors as we rebuild 746 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,280 Western North Carolina. Rest assured we will not repeat the 747 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:39,960 mistakes of the Cooper administration's failed response to Hurricanes Florence 748 00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:44,559 and Matthew. Almost a decade later, thousands of people in 749 00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:48,800 eastern North Carolina are still being forced to live in hotels. 750 00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:54,000 That is completely unacceptable and it should be a national scandal. 751 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,039 We cannot and we will not let that happen again 752 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,599 anywhere in our state. Whether you're a Publican or a Democrat, 753 00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:05,880 the challenges we face cross party lines. The challenges of 754 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,559 Hurricane Helene alone certainly bear that out. 755 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 2: All right. 756 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: So that was the Republican response, or some highlights of it. 757 00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:16,480 We shall see if they are actually able to govern 758 00:45:16,599 --> 00:45:21,000 together on some things in a bipartisan fashion. You know, 759 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:24,880 the legislation is starting to move through the pipeline as 760 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,440 we speak. All right, that'll do it for this episode. 761 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,559 Thank you so much for listening. 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