Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Nicole, you never have to get out of the way
Speaker 2: with me, Thank you very much. As always, twelve before
Speaker 2: over the pirates. I hope that duck boats are ready.
Speaker 2: My name is Dan Ray. As we head to this
Speaker 2: what I think will be a very interesting evening for
Speaker 2: all of us. Rob Brooks back in Broadcast Central at
Speaker 2: Broadcast Headquarters in Medford. He will basically take care of
Speaker 2: everything tonight. A couple of programming notes. First of all,
Speaker 2: welcome on in. Always great to have you. This is
Speaker 2: kind of one of those special different nights. So let
Speaker 2: me explain how it's going to go tonight. In the
Speaker 2: first hour, I would like to find out from you
Speaker 2: either what you expect or what you hope President Trump
Speaker 2: will say tonight. Now, this is not a State of
Speaker 2: the Union address. Let's make it very clear. This is
Speaker 2: not a State of the Union address. This is an
Speaker 2: address by the president, his first speech to Congress since
Speaker 2: his last presidential address, which was a State of the
Speaker 2: Union message, and that was in twenty twenty. I think
Speaker 2: we all remember when Nancy Pelosi made quite a presentation
Speaker 2: of ripping up his speech and just short of throwing
Speaker 2: it in his face. I don't think that's going to
Speaker 2: happen to I think that the current House Speaker, Mike
Speaker 2: Johnson will probably applaud quite a bit, as will all
Speaker 2: of the Republicans, which is to be expected. And the Democrats.
Speaker 2: They seem to be somewhat disorganized and maybe intentionally so.
Speaker 2: As to what they will do, whether they will attend,
Speaker 2: whether they will sit on their hands, or whether they
Speaker 2: will express their discontent with what is said, it will
Speaker 2: be interesting. Obviously, the program of the evening is controlled
Speaker 2: by President Trump and the Republican Party. Because he speaks
Speaker 2: in the House Chamber, there will be plenty of Republicans,
Speaker 2: he will have guests there, and it will be interesting.
Speaker 2: I suspect that he will certainly talk about Ukraine late today.
Speaker 2: There's some suggestion that that deal which was wasn't consummated
Speaker 2: on Friday in the Oval Office, may soon be signed.
Speaker 2: I don't know if President Zelensky would return to Washington
Speaker 2: signed the deal personally, or whether or not it would
Speaker 2: be done on a zoom call. Who knows with an
Speaker 2: auto pen. Now whatever, he'll certainly have to talk about tariffs.
Speaker 2: The stock market has tanked in the last couple of days,
Speaker 2: he's followed through those tariffs and now on in twenty
Speaker 2: five percent against Canada, twenty five percent against Mexico, and
Speaker 2: has raised the tariffs on the US tariffs on goods
Speaker 2: coming in from China from ten to twenty percent. Now
Speaker 2: the Prime Minister of Canada, he's a short timer. He
Speaker 2: probably will be off the political stage and certainly off
Speaker 2: the world political stage sometime later this month. The President
Speaker 2: of Mexico, Claudier Scheinbaum. She was just only elected in
Speaker 2: October twenty twenty four, so again not really understanding how
Speaker 2: things work in Mexico per se. I think that she
Speaker 2: will be around for the long haul, and President Trump
Speaker 2: will be around, I assume for the long haul as well,
Speaker 2: or at least for the balance of his first term,
Speaker 2: unless something crazy happens, either politically or anything like that.
Speaker 2: But we'll put that aside for the moment now. The
Speaker 2: Democrats will respond as they off, as they always do.
Speaker 2: There's always a response from the party that no longer
Speaker 2: holds the White House, and that response will be delivered
Speaker 2: by Michigan Senator Alissa Slotkin. She has only been a
Speaker 2: United Senator for two months previously to that she served
Speaker 2: in the House. You will hear her response as well,
Speaker 2: and I think it's important to hear both sides. She's
Speaker 2: a Cornell graduate, has a BA in sociology. Will know
Speaker 2: a lot more about her. I assume in the days ahead.
Speaker 2: She has a master's from Columbia University, a school of
Speaker 2: International and Public Affairs. Now. The Democratic minority leader in
Speaker 2: the House, Hakim Jeffries, urged in a letter to his
Speaker 2: House colleagues tonight to be strong, determined and dignified, Strong
Speaker 2: determined and dignified. Whether all will comply with that request?
Speaker 2: That is to be seen, by the way, getting back
Speaker 2: to Senator Slatkin, she's considered a moderate Democrat, more of
Speaker 2: I guess, a traditional Democrat, as opposed to say, Elizabeth Warren.
Speaker 2: I don't think they would be rolling Elizabeth Warren out
Speaker 2: for a response to the president tonight, and they have
Speaker 2: chosen newly elected Senator Elissa Slotkin. Kind of an interesting
Speaker 2: little point on her. She was born in July of
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six, so she's forty eight years of age
Speaker 2: and or will be yes, she's forty eight two be
Speaker 2: forty nine years of age this July. She was born
Speaker 2: in July tenth, just six days after the bicentennial that
Speaker 2: this country celebrated in the summer of nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 2: She was one of about six Democrats who voted for
Speaker 2: the lacoln Riley Act, which is an act named in
Speaker 2: honor of lacln Riley, the Georgia University student who was
Speaker 2: killed by someone here who should not have been here
Speaker 2: a little less than a year ago. She was simply
Speaker 2: out for a jog. Now, the President has a list
Speaker 2: of guests that he and his wife, Milennia Trump are
Speaker 2: bringing to the speech. He will reference several of them,
Speaker 2: I'm sure during the speech that is something that has
Speaker 2: been done for quite a while. Amongst the guests who
Speaker 2: you know or have some reason to know, he will
Speaker 2: have the family of Corey Competii Competori. He's the firefighter
Speaker 2: who was killed by a gunman who also shot President
Speaker 2: Trump during that campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania last July.
Speaker 2: He'll also be joined by Mark Fogel. He's the American
Speaker 2: history teacher who also happens to be from Butler, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 2: who is held hostaged by the Russian government and wrongfully
Speaker 2: sentenced to fourteen years in a Russian prison. He was
Speaker 2: released on February twelfth, and he was received by President
Speaker 2: Trump at the White House on the day of that
Speaker 2: assassination attempt. The story goes that President Trump I met
Speaker 2: Mark's ninety five year old mom. Her name was Malphine,
Speaker 2: and he apparently made a promise to her that he
Speaker 2: would bring her son home. And he fulfilled that promise
Speaker 2: on February twelfth. And there will be others for different issues,
Speaker 2: a lot of them related to different issues. For example,
Speaker 2: Alison and Lauren Phillips from Woodstock, Virginia. They are the
Speaker 2: mother and sister of Lacoln Riley, the young woman nursing
Speaker 2: student murdered by an illegal alien after a morning jog.
Speaker 2: The Biden administration had apprehended and released Lacoln's murderer into
Speaker 2: the county under its open border policies, and the very
Speaker 2: first bill the President signed into law was named in
Speaker 2: honor of lacln Riley. And I'm reading from a press
Speaker 2: release from the White House there, obviously, I would hope
Speaker 2: that you'd understand that. And there will be some representatives
Speaker 2: guests brought by Democrats to the speech. Many of them
Speaker 2: will be either current or recently terminated federal employees. So
Speaker 2: it sets what all of these events are, big political drama,
Speaker 2: there's no question about that, and we'll talk about this.
Speaker 2: By the way, there will be a Spanish response. We
Speaker 2: will play not only obviously the President's speech in its entirety,
Speaker 2: and then there will be an ABC News quick cover
Speaker 2: while the Democrat again, Senator Slotkin of Michigan, pulls your
Speaker 2: thoughts together. But there's also going to be a Spanish
Speaker 2: response by a congressman from New York, Adriana Esparlat. He
Speaker 2: represents the thirteenth Congressional district. He is seventy years old,
Speaker 2: first elected to Congress I believe in twenty sixteen. He's
Speaker 2: the first Dominican American to serve in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2: And he's also formed he's now the first formally illegal
Speaker 2: immigr to be elected to Congress. So a very interesting
Speaker 2: life story with that member of Congress against the backdrop
Speaker 2: of the Dow, the SNP, and the Nasdaq Wall Street
Speaker 2: really taking a dive the last two days. So we
Speaker 2: will see how the President talks about that. And incidentally,
Speaker 2: these sorts of addresses to Congress have only been of
Speaker 2: recent vintage Ronald Reagan was the first who delivered a
Speaker 2: speech in nineteen eighty one, shortly after he was elected
Speaker 2: and before he himself was the victim of an assassination attempt.
Speaker 2: George Herbert Walker Bush did the same thing in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty nine. Bill Clinton did the same thing in ninety three.
Speaker 2: George W. Bush did the same thing in two thousand
Speaker 2: and one. President Obama did the same thing in two
Speaker 2: thousand and nine, and President Trump carried on the tradition
Speaker 2: as did Joe Biden. So Ever since Ronald Reagan, presidents
Speaker 2: have a given speeches to Congress, not State of the
Speaker 2: Union speeches, although in effect they will sound like a
Speaker 2: State of the Union speech. So, having set the table now,
Speaker 2: I would like to hear from all of you. Normally
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Speaker 2: has he done best on in your opinion, or what
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Speaker 2: the Democratic response, and then we'll listen to the speech
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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, gonna get reaction from folks
Speaker 2: in advance. What do you hope the President's going to say?
Speaker 2: What do you think he's going to say? What do
Speaker 2: you think he might try to avoid? Let me go
Speaker 2: to Joe, who is a longtime listener and a very
Speaker 2: loyal follower of this program. Joe your first this hour Nightside,
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Joe, Dan, I.
Speaker 3: Think he's going to talk about how he's gonna make
Speaker 3: America great again. Also, how is he going to explain
Speaker 3: that he didn't end the war in Ukraine in one day? Second,
Speaker 3: he said, if Amas didn't give back all of the hostages,
Speaker 3: they would be bomb to Smith therenes. And how about
Speaker 3: his plan for inflation in the economy. All the prices
Speaker 3: are high, but Mike gasoline went down a dime today.
Speaker 2: Well that's a that's a good thing, certainly, Joe. Look,
Speaker 2: look what did they say the old adages Rome wasn't
Speaker 2: built in a day. I think that he had to
Speaker 2: if if it turns out that this deal with Zelensky
Speaker 2: has signed in the next few days, or perhaps even
Speaker 2: as early as tomorrow, that ugly confrontation on Friday, I
Speaker 2: guess will have proven to have been worth it if
Speaker 2: if the deal gets done, because I think that will
Speaker 2: provide security for Ukraine. I think the president has to
Speaker 2: respond to what the stock market has done the last
Speaker 2: day or so last couple of days. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: in the tank, and not everybody's invested in the stock market,
Speaker 2: but more people are invested in the stark. Then realize
Speaker 2: if they have a furrow one k or some other
Speaker 2: you know, you know program program like a fur one k.
Speaker 2: In terms of prices, I didn't think that grocery prices
Speaker 2: were going to drop the moment that he took his
Speaker 2: hand off the Bible. But he's doing this these tariffs,
Speaker 2: and they might in the short term increase, so he's
Speaker 2: got to address that as well. I think you hit
Speaker 2: on a number of points, Joe that he's going to
Speaker 2: have to talk about tonight. Good analysis.
Speaker 3: I voted for him three times, and I thought he
Speaker 3: was the greatest thing in the sky. Now I think
Speaker 3: maybe he's just the less of two evils now, and
Speaker 3: I'd vote for him a fourth time.
Speaker 2: I think you've got to give him more than six weeks.
Speaker 2: He's not going to be able to run again. That's
Speaker 2: that would be that's against the constitution. But I think
Speaker 2: it's been six weeks. Let's see how it goes tonight.
Speaker 2: Let's see what the stock market does tomorrow. Let's see
Speaker 2: if the Ukraine deal. I think that things have moved
Speaker 2: pretty quickly. I think that they have probably on DoD
Speaker 2: which overreached. I think they're a little out over their
Speaker 2: skis on that. It'll be interesting to say to see
Speaker 2: what he says about that tonight. But again, remember it's
Speaker 2: not the words that count, its action and results. Joe
Speaker 2: has always.
Speaker 4: Thanks, Yeah, give him a chance, right, Dan, I would say,
Speaker 4: you got to give any president a chance, absolutely, but
Speaker 4: as I say, we could still criticize him, that's for sure.
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Speaker 2: I think we're going to take you to Panama. Meial,
Speaker 2: are you in Panama, Panama or back in the home.
Speaker 5: Country while I'm in Panama, and I plan to return
Speaker 5: back to the home country, the home station, the home
Speaker 5: base at some point in the next couple of months. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, great to hear your voice. Let me ask you,
Speaker 2: what was the reaction of people in Panama. I assumed
Speaker 2: that the president will at least make reference to his
Speaker 2: suggestion that it's time for the US to take back
Speaker 2: control of the Panama Canal, or however he might put it.
Speaker 2: What was the reaction of people in Panama.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did some primary research on that on that front,
Speaker 5: I mean, my own little network, and you know, I
Speaker 5: am hoping to hear him clarify some of his bluster
Speaker 5: because it's largely inactive totally accurate. So I divided it
Speaker 5: up into about three strata, three classes, fairly or unfairly,
Speaker 5: That's just how I thought about it. Kind of the
Speaker 5: professional class down at the other end of the street here.
Speaker 5: Now this was started back on New Year's Eve when
Speaker 5: I got down here, so it was all pretty fresh
Speaker 5: and new back then. So I had an engineer, and
Speaker 5: then around the corner is two teachers of English hand
Speaker 5: surgeon doctor Julio you used to live in Needham, worked
Speaker 5: at Susan Newton, worked at Boston Medical Center for a bit.
Speaker 5: And these folks were all convinced, you know, once bit
Speaker 5: and twice shy that Donnie t was going to be
Speaker 5: invading down here and taking back the canal. They were
Speaker 5: convinced that's happened before. And then kind of this middle
Speaker 5: class the Uber I shouldn't call them the Uber class,
Speaker 5: it sounds like a Germanic massive reference. But Uber drivers
Speaker 5: who are kind of in a middle class and they
Speaker 5: are largely of the position it's okay, you want to
Speaker 5: take the canal, Take the canal? What's in it for
Speaker 5: me that I don't see a dime? They don't see
Speaker 5: a penny from this. And the canal's run very well,
Speaker 5: extremely well, and it's so well that they were able
Speaker 5: to budget and plan for the Supermax expansion and they
Speaker 5: did that well with out a hitch, and it's nearly perfect.
Speaker 5: But they don't see a dime. Are you going to
Speaker 5: come in and give us money for roads and bridges
Speaker 5: and schools and the rest? Then take it? And then
Speaker 5: they have enlightened me as to a third class, which
Speaker 5: is unnamed, who have probably never seen the canal unless
Speaker 5: it's on TV and the news, and don't get a penny,
Speaker 5: don't get a dime. They're just trying to survive day
Speaker 5: to day as wages stagnate and caused rise. So that's
Speaker 5: kind of how it's divided up. And I verified all
Speaker 5: that with my sources, so to speak.
Speaker 2: Okay, so let me ask you this Okay, correct me
Speaker 2: on the history of it. I think I might have
Speaker 2: mentioned to you that my godfather, who I never met,
Speaker 2: worked in the Panama Canal. I have no idea. She
Speaker 2: expect they might have been in the CIA or something.
Speaker 2: His name was Frank Castle. If anyone in the audience
Speaker 2: could have telled me, he's I'm sure a long since past.
Speaker 2: But he was a close friend of my dad and
Speaker 2: he was god He was my godfather, and his wife
Speaker 2: was my godmother. Never met either one of them. They
Speaker 2: probably were my christening, but I don't have a specific
Speaker 2: recall of that. So we built the canal? Any question
Speaker 2: about that at all? Down there or no?
Speaker 5: Yes, that's a range. We don't have time to cover
Speaker 5: that in a formative phone call. I can give you
Speaker 5: an oversimplified history of that back of it. Go ahead,
Speaker 5: hitt the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, just give me give me quick. Okay,
Speaker 2: let me ask you just people in Panama who built
Speaker 2: the canal.
Speaker 5: It was the US obviously who did all the planning.
Speaker 5: It was really the French, and there was a Frenchman
Speaker 5: who in nineteen oh three Panama was still a province
Speaker 5: of Columbia, US guaranteed and paid for Panamanian independence because
Speaker 5: they had an independent movement, they had flags and people
Speaker 5: in place. US built the canal with a treaty for
Speaker 5: US control operations in the canal zone, which was ten
Speaker 5: miles on either side of the canal for the fifty
Speaker 5: one mile length of the canal, and we gifted it
Speaker 5: to Panama with only one string attached neutrality. This was
Speaker 5: way back during card This I advanced, you.
Speaker 2: Know, don't you know? Look, I know this part of
Speaker 2: the story because I remember when Jimmy Carter I thought
Speaker 2: he might have sold it for a dollar or whatever,
Speaker 2: or maybe it was a gift. Whatever it was, it
Speaker 2: was a very controversial activity. As matter of fact, he
Speaker 2: was a Republican congressman out of Illinois at the time
Speaker 2: named Philip Crane, who was That was his campaign for
Speaker 2: president Get back the Canal in nineteen eighty. But okay,
Speaker 2: so now a couple of other quick questions, if I could,
Speaker 2: how much influence does China have? President Trump has talked
Speaker 2: about China controlling.
Speaker 5: Reports down there. He's wrong. They have two ports. They
Speaker 5: also have one on either end of the canal, crist
Speaker 5: of Ball on the Caribbean end and Balboa on the
Speaker 5: Pacific end, and they are two ports. There's two others.
Speaker 5: US has control of one. They were bid on in
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety three under a Hutchinson Wampoa which was out
Speaker 5: of Hong Kong and British owned. Not anything to do
Speaker 5: with China except then eventually China.
Speaker 2: China took over Hong Kong, right right, and So's.
Speaker 5: Billionaires kept in and took the ports from Hutchison Wampoa.
Speaker 5: So they are at least partial owned and operated. But
Speaker 5: they have fifty plus ports around the globe, including one
Speaker 5: on either end of the Suez Canal. They have them
Speaker 5: in Argentina, they had them.
Speaker 2: Sounds like it sounds like the Chinese government knows what
Speaker 2: they're doing. So should we be concerned about that?
Speaker 5: In your opinion the kneel, No, you should not, because
Speaker 5: they bid them in nineteen ninety seven. Excuse me, not
Speaker 5: ninety three ninety seven, and you could have bid them
Speaker 5: and you didn't. You showed no interest. So who's crying
Speaker 5: like children? Johnny T So, the Chinese are not a
Speaker 5: threat to anyone down here. And if they're not a
Speaker 5: threat to the Suez Canal, how can they possibly be
Speaker 5: a threat to the Panama Canal? Well, Johnny t lost
Speaker 5: his Trump Tower for tax division here back in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5: So my opinion, but that is a fact. My opinion
Speaker 5: tying these two together is that he soured great revenge
Speaker 5: and vengeance from losing Trump Tower.
Speaker 2: Okay, so ok just devil's advocate, Devil's advocate for a second. Okay,
Speaker 2: China has it having control of all of these ports
Speaker 2: around the world. Obviously there is a design that China has,
Speaker 2: And it was our money that gave the canal to Panama.
Speaker 2: And we have something that still exists, and it's the
Speaker 2: Monroe doctrine that in this part of the world, this
Speaker 2: part of the hemisphere, there are things that we do
Speaker 2: not want encroaching on us. We came parallelsly close to
Speaker 2: nuclear war in nineteen sixty two October of nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: two when Russians Russia tried to put some nuclear warheads
Speaker 2: into the island of Cuba. What should we do? Just
Speaker 2: allow it to continue controlling ale as many ports as possible.
Speaker 2: Could China at some point say hey, guess what our
Speaker 2: ports down there are. We've gotten some some ships down there.
Speaker 2: We're going to close off the Panama can help.
Speaker 5: I don't see how they're going to do that. I'm
Speaker 5: sure anything is possible. And Little Marco was down here
Speaker 5: during the Chinese Lunar New Year, which was interesting. He
Speaker 5: came in right where all the Chinese because the huge
Speaker 5: Chinese population down here's the estimated that maybe ten percent
Speaker 5: of all Panamanians have Asian Chinese lineage. But that's the digression.
Speaker 5: He said that these are dual use ports. We'll show
Speaker 5: me a port that isn't. So is it possible? Could
Speaker 5: it happened? I suppose it could happen. But the Panama
Speaker 5: Canal Authority owns all of the canal from top to
Speaker 5: bottom or north to south. However you want to divide
Speaker 5: it up, and there is actually no threat. If there's
Speaker 5: a thread in Panama, why is there not a threat
Speaker 5: in the Suez Canal?
Speaker 2: Well, I think that our interest backyards a lot closer
Speaker 2: to the Panama Canal. I think as much as the
Speaker 2: strategically located. I would not doubt that that if China
Speaker 2: wanted to close off the Suez Canal, either through their
Speaker 2: own people or through the Hoodies, the group in Yemen,
Speaker 2: yeah that's yeah, or other terrorists. I mean this this
Speaker 2: is a I think it's always better to act first
Speaker 2: as opposed to react, so we'll see. I really appreciate
Speaker 2: the information, Neil. That is fabulous. Now, the only thing
Speaker 2: you got to do for me is find out who
Speaker 2: Frank Castle was and what the hell was he doing
Speaker 2: down there during my childhood. He had to be down
Speaker 2: there overthrowing some governments. As far as I'm.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I'm sure that's short money for the for the
Speaker 5: deep state, especially back then, it's short money to do.
Speaker 5: One thing to keep in mind before before I go,
Speaker 5: is that, yes, the US built the original canal, but
Speaker 5: there is the more profitable SuperMac ex Supermacs expansion that
Speaker 5: Kindama paid for and built. So what are you going
Speaker 5: to take the half that you built and not the
Speaker 5: other half is more offitable. So I don't see how
Speaker 5: you're gonna be able to take it.
Speaker 2: I think there should be some negotiation that will occur
Speaker 2: here at the new treat that our footprint needs to uh,
Speaker 2: we need to have a bigger presence. I'm in that
Speaker 2: area of the world. I think that's a critical area
Speaker 2: of the world.
Speaker 5: Atlantic to invest invest that's all they ask for his investment.
Speaker 5: You've had every opportunity to invest in you refuse.
Speaker 2: To well, not me personally. Hey Neil, as always, I
Speaker 2: love the conversation. Thank you, my friend. That that's a
Speaker 2: history lesson and a lesson also in current political philosophy
Speaker 2: as well. Thanks Neil, appreciate it. Talk soon what I'm
Speaker 2: here for?
Speaker 5: You got it all right?
Speaker 2: Thank you much, Neil, who is our nightside ambassador to
Speaker 2: Panama checking in tonight. A very important conversation. I believe
Speaker 2: we'll be back on nightside. I got Susan and Lewis
Speaker 2: coming up back on nightside. Uh. I can probably fit
Speaker 2: another one or two in if you want to try
Speaker 2: six one seven nine or six one seven, two, five, four,
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Speaker 2: few minutes to the President of these United States and
Speaker 2: the Democratic response, and then after that will get your
Speaker 2: response to what the President actually says and actually proposes
Speaker 2: tonight back on Nightside.
Speaker 1: Right after this, now back to Dan Ray live from
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Speaker 2: Right back to the huones are going to get both
Speaker 2: of these calls in Lewis and Shrewsbury. Lewis, what do
Speaker 2: you think the President will say or not say tonight?
Speaker 6: Well, what I'm hoping one of the things I'm hoping
Speaker 6: Dan is that he clarifies. I think there's a lot
Speaker 6: of misunderstanding in the general population, and I think that's
Speaker 6: kind of exacerbated by, in a way, kind of a
Speaker 6: fear campaign that general media seems to be raising about
Speaker 6: tariffs and what.
Speaker 5: The goals are.
Speaker 6: And my understanding after doing a little bit of my understanding,
Speaker 6: after doing a little bit of homework, is simply this
Speaker 6: that we're looking for fair trade business terms sort of
Speaker 6: the same the same terms that that we provide other countries.
Speaker 2: L called a level playing field. That that's the best.
Speaker 2: That is the best way to describe it. Yep.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I find a lot of people don't even
Speaker 6: understand the word reciprocal. I get a blanket there. So
Speaker 6: so I mean, in a nutshell, I know you're pressed
Speaker 6: for time, but it seems like when people understand that,
Speaker 6: they have a hard time being critical. Despite like I said,
Speaker 6: I really I hate to say it, I'm sensing sort
Speaker 6: of an exaggeration and almost almost intentional confusion that's being
Speaker 6: delivered anyway.
Speaker 2: Well, normally, the uh, the Republican Party has been against tariffs,
Speaker 2: but this is a different type of Republican president. Traditional
Speaker 2: Republicans from the the Romney McCain Bush wing of the
Speaker 2: party would always say, hey, tariffs are no good for anybody,
Speaker 2: and in fact they're probably right. But when there were
Speaker 2: countries around the world that have tariffs against us, or
Speaker 2: if there are countries around like Mexico, which were allowing
Speaker 2: things to happen within their borders, that that we want
Speaker 2: to impact. One way that a president can do something
Speaker 2: is impose some tariffs. Now that action has gotten the
Speaker 2: attention of the leadership of Mexico President shanbaum Uh and
Speaker 2: they were about I believe twenty cartel leaders who had
Speaker 2: been in prison in Mexico have been turned over to
Speaker 2: the US. That's that's a step of the right direction.
Speaker 2: And no, let's let's see how this how this plays out.
Speaker 2: I think in the short run, we're all gonna pay
Speaker 2: a little bit more for items. I think that many
Speaker 2: of the corporations of this country will take an opportunity
Speaker 2: to raise their prices, and they're gonna say, well, see,
Speaker 2: that's what the tariffs do, and in fact they do,
Speaker 2: but they may right make they may take an opportunity here.
Speaker 2: So let's see how it plays out. Just as let's
Speaker 2: see how this Ukraine thing plays out. I mean, tonight
Speaker 2: there's some speculation that maybe is ready to to do
Speaker 2: what the President was urging him to do on Friday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so, and I hope that, as you said,
Speaker 6: people have given us a little time. I mean, I
Speaker 6: think back of my father Michaels and the sacrifice that
Speaker 6: they may literally go into war. I like to think
Speaker 6: that for you know, three or four months, you know,
Speaker 6: we can just deal with it in the hopes of
Speaker 6: just getting an equitable, a fair relationship in our business
Speaker 6: going forward. How we got into this mess is another subject,
Speaker 6: but just just give us, you know, the same terms
Speaker 6: that we give you. And I don't think that's unreasonable.
Speaker 2: No, I agree with you. The other thing, too, is
Speaker 2: we've lost a lot of manufacturing to to other parts
Speaker 2: of the of the world, and maybe they can they
Speaker 2: can be brought back. Maybe we can get some of
Speaker 2: those car companies to bring there their industry back to
Speaker 2: the States if it costs them a little bit more
Speaker 2: to they you know, make cars elsewhere make you know,
Speaker 2: let's let's get American jobs back as well. Again, that's
Speaker 2: Democrats used to be saying. Donald Trump is not as
Speaker 2: much he's a little bit of a traditional Democrat here
Speaker 2: as well, and people are responding to that career. Lewis,
Speaker 2: I thank you, my friend. I want to grab one
Speaker 2: more call here if I can. Thanks, Leis. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to him. Call more often. Susan and Weymouth. Okay, thanks,
Speaker 2: thanks very much, Lewis. Appreciate you. Call.
Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: Susan in Weymouth. You were next. Hi. How are you?
Speaker 7: I'm good at pleasant, good evening to you. I'm just calling,
Speaker 7: thank you. I'm a retired educator and a baby Booma
Speaker 7: and I just had a couple of observations about tonight.
Speaker 7: My first one is the president's speech. I think they're
Speaker 7: going to be giving the Democrats oxygen by the time
Speaker 7: he's done. Maybe well, they're not gonna like what he
Speaker 7: has to say. He's going to be dropping ball.
Speaker 2: When you say oxygen, you don't mean political oxygen.
Speaker 7: You mean you think no, I mean the regular oxygen
Speaker 7: so they don't pass out in the aisle.
Speaker 2: Okay. I took it total. I took it one hundred
Speaker 2: and any degrees a different, different way, but go right ahead.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 7: But I think what people forget about him is he's
Speaker 7: not a politician, so he doesn't work through that lens. Yeah,
Speaker 7: and I think that's what people are finding how to understand.
Speaker 7: And with him laying people off, he's doing what he
Speaker 7: said he was going to do, but he's not. He's
Speaker 7: it's like a band aid. He's not picking in here
Speaker 7: by here, he's ripping it right off.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I also think that they've overreached their out
Speaker 2: over their skis I have. We're going to talk about
Speaker 2: this later this week. There's a volunteer organization in this
Speaker 2: country of physicians, nurses, pharmacists, medical person who are on
Speaker 2: a twenty four hour or you know, literally a two
Speaker 2: hour alert standby to respond and go to areas in
Speaker 2: America and around the world where there's a natural disaster.
Speaker 2: And those folks who are all volunteers and do not
Speaker 2: they're not government deployees. I have been told that they
Speaker 2: have to submit statements as to what they've done in
Speaker 2: the last week for their job. They do their job
Speaker 2: in the private secretary and when the crisis occurs, they're
Speaker 2: ready to go. Go ahead. We got about thirty seconds left,
Speaker 2: so I want I want to.
Speaker 7: Give you the other thing I wanted to say. As
Speaker 7: as an educator, I think the best thing he's doing
Speaker 7: is get rid of the Department of Education. That was
Speaker 7: the worst thing Jimmy Codda did.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't forget.
Speaker 2: I'm I know you're a educator, and I think that I'm.
Speaker 7: A buma though I was way back.
Speaker 2: No, I got it. I totally haven't. Look, I very
Speaker 2: much appreciate your call. And it will it won't mean
Speaker 2: if they get rid of the Department of Education the
Speaker 2: schools and all it will mean is that schools will
Speaker 2: be regulated by the various states, and I think we
Speaker 2: should be maybe a good thing. Susan, I love you.
Speaker 2: Call call back soon.
Speaker 7: Okay, you're welcome, Thank you very much, Bye, thank you.
Speaker 2: All right, we've got the President's address coming up. We're
Speaker 2: going to go to ABC News special coverage of the
Speaker 2: President's addressed to a Joint Session of Congress. After that,
Speaker 2: we'll have the Democratic response, and then we'll hear from
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