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Speaker 5: What's happening? Welcome in, Happy Monday. I hope you had
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Speaker 5: been a while since I was on the air. I
Speaker 5: mean it's been a few days. I was here Friday.
Speaker 5: Haven't been in studio though in a while. But here today,
Speaker 5: ready to take you up until six o'clock and obviously
Speaker 5: a lot to get to. Monday is always very busy,
Speaker 5: a lot to react to from the weekend, and that
Speaker 5: is no different today, but not your typical Monday. As
Speaker 5: you know, this is my first chance to really react
Speaker 5: to Saturday, the Louisville Kentucky game. And I really didn't
Speaker 5: have any intention on kind of sharing this or telling
Speaker 5: this story. And I don't want to act like I'm
Speaker 5: about to tell some very entertaining tale that's going to
Speaker 5: have you on the edge of your seat.
Speaker 1: But I I didn't even watch the game live.
Speaker 5: So if you remember, and I guess you know, you'd
Speaker 5: have to be a listener at that exact time, or
Speaker 5: maybe a podcast listener. But there was a moment last
Speaker 5: week and I believe it was on might have been
Speaker 5: on Thursday, maybe Wednesday, Austin, do you remember were you
Speaker 5: with me when I got completely sidetracked during a segment
Speaker 5: like to where I kind of like like blocked out.
Speaker 5: I mean, I didn't like have an episode, but I
Speaker 5: lost my train of thought and I mentioned looking at
Speaker 5: my phone and being like, oh, I just got something, yes, yes,
Speaker 5: So what that was was that I and I'm happy
Speaker 5: it worked out this way.
Speaker 1: Everything was great.
Speaker 5: But I made a commitment to go to Nashville this
Speaker 5: past weekend a long time ago, and I never really
Speaker 5: I mean, in fact, I think it was something that
Speaker 5: I agreed to or I keep saying, like I was
Speaker 5: asked to go to a Titans Bengals game on which
Speaker 5: of course took place yesterday in Nashville with my cousin
Speaker 5: who lives in Arkansas. He's a big time Bingles fan.
Speaker 5: We were really crowd was growing up, but he lives
Speaker 5: really far away now, so long long ago. I'm talking like,
Speaker 5: you know, early football season, maybe even actually no before that.
Speaker 5: It was before the NFL season started. He said, Hey,
Speaker 5: I'm going to be bringing you know, he's going to
Speaker 5: bring his family to come up to watch the Bengals
Speaker 5: play in Nashville. Just have a weekend, would you and
Speaker 5: Moose want to come? And I was like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 5: just let me know, you know, let me know what date.
Speaker 5: And you know, he sent me the schedule and like
Speaker 5: the date was the day of the game, like the
Speaker 5: NFL schedule was together. So he let me know right away, like, hey,
Speaker 5: here's the date and you know, and I was like, what, oh,
Speaker 5: I owe you? And of course he's great so he's like, nothing,
Speaker 5: just I got the tickets to show up and we'll
Speaker 5: have a great time. And I was like, well, that's awesome. So,
Speaker 5: you know, because I, you know, because I'm not the
Speaker 5: like usually when it comes to like trips and plans
Speaker 5: and that kind of stuff like going out of town
Speaker 5: for a weekend or for a week like, I usually
Speaker 5: just you know, go where I'm told, Like my wife
Speaker 5: coordinates all that. So I always kind of knew in
Speaker 5: the back of my mind I was going to be
Speaker 5: going to the Beeler the Steeler, not the Steelers, but
Speaker 5: the Bengals Titans game. But it just, you know, kind
Speaker 5: of out of sight, out of mind. And I even
Speaker 5: knew a few weeks ago that it was coming up,
Speaker 5: but I never put it together that the that it
Speaker 5: was on. You know, it's the same week in the
Speaker 5: UK you UFL play in basketball, So and I think
Speaker 5: another and this is me giving myself, I guess a
Speaker 5: little bit of an excuse here. I the game was
Speaker 5: way earlier than it usually is. If we end up
Speaker 5: with a game that is, you know, on a Saturday
Speaker 5: afternoon like this one, it usually ends up like being
Speaker 5: after Christmas. To be honest with you, like in between
Speaker 5: Christmas in the New Year, so it was earlier. So again,
Speaker 5: you know, I just but I got that text message
Speaker 5: just reminding me that like, hey, you know, we're going
Speaker 5: to be getting to town on Saturday at this time,
Speaker 5: looking forward to seeing you, and I just like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, Like I totally didn't realize that, like I
Speaker 5: will be traveling to Nashville the day that they play,
Speaker 5: and usually the day that these two teams play, Like
Speaker 5: I'm I might as well be locked away in like
Speaker 5: a you know, just kept to myself. I mean not really,
Speaker 5: but like you know, if I'm in public, I'm grown
Speaker 5: enough now to where I don't make a scene or anything.
Speaker 5: So what started happened late last week was that me realizing,
Speaker 5: you know what, like what am I going to do here?
Speaker 5: I'm clearly going to go and it would probably be
Speaker 5: better for me to not, you know, like to maybe
Speaker 5: be not in an area where everybody else is gonna
Speaker 5: be caring about this game. I mean, Nashville is like
Speaker 5: one of the most So I ended up getting to
Speaker 5: town at around four o'clock, so hour and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 5: We get settled into the hotel and you know, they
Speaker 5: my family knew, like, hey, we're gonna we're gonna make
Speaker 5: arrangements to you know, make sure Nick can watch the game,
Speaker 5: because like they couldn't believe that I was coming, despite
Speaker 5: this big game that usually you know, just people don't
Speaker 5: make big plans to do things on those dates. And
Speaker 5: I probably wouldn't have had I known, but I'm really
Speaker 5: glad that it worked out the way that it did.
Speaker 5: So we ended up out at a bar restaurant area
Speaker 5: in downtown Nashville, and it was on, but the sound
Speaker 5: wasn't on, and I was, you know, catching up with family,
Speaker 5: so I was watching, we were chatting, but like I
Speaker 5: wasn't intently watching and I didn't hear sound, so like
Speaker 5: I was able to keep up. And I've since watched
Speaker 5: the game actually a time, you know, nearly two times.
Speaker 5: I watched it all over again last night, which was
Speaker 5: a really sad way to end my weekend of fish.
Speaker 5: But you know, I feel like it's kind of part
Speaker 5: of the job. I need to watch the game in
Speaker 5: its entirety, and you know, hearing the broadcast and stuff,
Speaker 5: I think gives you more context to talk about it
Speaker 5: on the radio, like I'm going to do today. And
Speaker 5: then earlier today, I was kind of just skimming through
Speaker 5: parts and the condensed version, just trying to kind of
Speaker 5: like think, okay, what you know, where were the moments
Speaker 5: that like it felt like okay, you know, you either
Speaker 5: need to take advantage right here if you want to
Speaker 5: be able to potentially win, or you have a play
Speaker 5: where it doesn't work. You know, you miss a layup
Speaker 5: or maybe not a wide open layup, but a decent
Speaker 5: shot around the rim, or you get a really good look,
Speaker 5: a great look at from three that would have absolutely
Speaker 5: given you all the momentum, maybe even tied it up
Speaker 5: or cut the deficit to two. Like those were you know,
Speaker 5: I was trying to pinpoint when those moments happened, so
Speaker 5: like I'm well equipped to discuss it. But it kind
Speaker 5: of worked out, you know, good for me, because as
Speaker 5: I said last week, it wouldn't have been crazy for
Speaker 5: Louisville to win, and I thought they would come out
Speaker 5: and compete, and they did, you know, but you still
Speaker 5: end up losing the arrival. And I've been able to,
Speaker 5: for the most part, look at the game against and again,
Speaker 5: this is probably just me because we're gonna find out
Speaker 5: probably mid January, like who this team is And what
Speaker 5: I mean by that is are they getting better but
Speaker 5: shorthanded and playing really good teams? So these losses they
Speaker 5: sting and if you get blown out, they're actually not
Speaker 5: good losses despite these being good teams. Are you building
Speaker 5: and developing yourself as this new team that is clearly
Speaker 5: going to be with seven guys for the majority of
Speaker 5: the season, And you know, did you get did you
Speaker 5: get better despite those losses? To where when you get
Speaker 5: to teams not named Kentucky and rap Aerna, teams not
Speaker 5: named Duke, teams not named Ole Miss, are you going
Speaker 5: to be able to you know, to win and sometimes
Speaker 5: maybe even win big because you know there's teams in
Speaker 5: the ACC that if you play them close, it might
Speaker 5: even hurt you. So you know, long story short, we're
Speaker 5: going to find out probably within a within the next month, like, okay,
Speaker 5: what is this because they could still lose to Carolina
Speaker 5: and close and be competitive and it might have me
Speaker 5: still in the same spot where I'm at right now,
Speaker 5: which is, yeah, they don't have a lot of room
Speaker 5: for air. The ceiling's probably not high. But and we'll
Speaker 5: talk a lot about it today from the Kentucky game,
Speaker 5: Like you could tell some guys are getting more comfortable
Speaker 5: in this new world where they're only playing seven dudes
Speaker 5: and they're finding sort of where they fit and it.
Speaker 5: You know, I think you could see that. So, like,
Speaker 5: I think every loss that they've had, like I can,
Speaker 5: I can make an excuse for it. Now at the
Speaker 5: end of the day, it doesn't I'm not saying we
Speaker 5: shouldn't care and that like the loss doesn't count. But
Speaker 5: I think when they ended up losing to Ole Miss,
Speaker 5: it was like the way of the world kind of
Speaker 5: fell on them. They've lost two guys for the season,
Speaker 5: found that out for sure. They were fresh off that
Speaker 5: three day or three three games and three days in
Speaker 5: the Bahamas, and they just they will never shoot as
Speaker 5: poorly as they did against Olemiss, in my opinion. Well,
Speaker 5: then they come out against Duke and they competed, and
Speaker 5: you know, they were ahead in that game for about
Speaker 5: thirty minutes. That that doesn't mean anything in the grand
Speaker 5: like that doesn't have any value on your resume. You
Speaker 5: still lost the game, and you lost by eleven. But
Speaker 5: I can still see, Okay, hey, they were competitive. They're
Speaker 5: kind of finding themselves a little bit. The UTEP game.
Speaker 5: I mean, they could have lost that one. That was
Speaker 5: a really poor showing. But we know that that team
Speaker 5: we saw against utep is is even the shorthanded version
Speaker 5: of this team, the seven man team is better than
Speaker 5: what they did against utep And they came out against Kentucky.
Speaker 1: They were competitive. The moment wasn't too big for them.
Speaker 5: They I mean, they were comfortable out there and they
Speaker 5: were kind of, you know, I think, a good version
Speaker 5: of themselves for the majority of the game. And maybe
Speaker 5: you see it differently. I know Kentucky led for thirty
Speaker 5: nine minutes and twenty two seconds, but you know, I
Speaker 5: was I was still again viewing a team that I
Speaker 5: know lost and in the end it wasn't even you know,
Speaker 5: you did cover against Kentucky. I guess that maybe means
Speaker 5: something to some people. But I feel like they're going
Speaker 5: through a gauntlet right now and I'm choosing and it's
Speaker 5: just me. I don't think I'm alone, but I'm choosing
Speaker 5: to see, Okay, this group is mature. They understand that
Speaker 5: despite these losses, like if they were fully healthy, they
Speaker 5: might have won and we'll never know. But like I
Speaker 5: think it's important for these guys to maintain some confidence
Speaker 5: about themselves and keep a good head about them while
Speaker 5: they ride out the rest of this schedule where they're
Speaker 5: playing like really good teams that even if they were
Speaker 5: healthy fully and played well, they might still lose because again,
Speaker 5: Kentucky's a really good basketball team, Duke's a really good
Speaker 5: basketball team, so is Ole Miss. So is I mean
Speaker 5: that Oklahoma team to beat you, they're pretty good. So
Speaker 5: you know, I won't probably be proven right or wrong
Speaker 5: about that until about a month from now, or I
Speaker 5: guess maybe you could.
Speaker 1: Like slip up and lose to EKU.
Speaker 5: I highly doubt that happens, but you've got EKU, Florida State.
Speaker 1: Let me pull it up here.
Speaker 5: I just had the schedule in front of me, because
Speaker 5: you've got Florida State coming up. That's next, That's this Saturday,
Speaker 5: then you play the following Saturday against against ek and
Speaker 5: then you play North Carolina on New Year's Day. I
Speaker 5: kind of feel like once you get to January fourteenth,
Speaker 5: when you play Syracuse, like that's gonna be kind of
Speaker 5: the stretch of games where you got Syracuse, Virginia, SMU,
Speaker 5: Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Miami, NC State, Notre Dame,
Speaker 5: Florida State, Virginia Tech, Pitt Cal, Stanford. That rounds out
Speaker 5: your schedule. I mean, think about that. You could obviously
Speaker 5: lose to any of these teams if you don't play
Speaker 5: well because of how thin you are, and maybe some
Speaker 5: of these teams end up being, you know, really good.
Speaker 5: But your performance is for the most part against Duke
Speaker 5: Kentucky and you know what you did against and again
Speaker 5: it's hard. I mean, I still include that they played
Speaker 5: really well against Indiana, and they played really well against
Speaker 5: West Virginia in those wins, but you had Case and
Speaker 5: pryor now again, Case and Prior I think did a
Speaker 5: little didn't do quite as much for this team on
Speaker 5: the stat sheet as people realize, but clear just not
Speaker 5: having him makes a big difference. So the team we've
Speaker 5: seen play well and win, or the team we've seen
Speaker 5: play solid too well but lose to really really good teams,
Speaker 5: that team, even the seven man rotation team, they can
Speaker 5: beat a lot of these teams. In fact, they should
Speaker 5: beat a lot of these teams because they're not good
Speaker 5: even when full like the ACC is not. And I
Speaker 5: will say this like I'm gonna give them the pass
Speaker 5: now to where like you know, and if you want
Speaker 5: to crush him and say, hey, this team stinks. Everybody's
Speaker 5: still all I can. I did miss a lot of
Speaker 5: the reaction to the game, which I was kind of
Speaker 5: It was kind of nice. Nobody where I was was
Speaker 5: watching the game or cared other than me, And of
Speaker 5: course I stayed off social media because I was not
Speaker 5: fully live at all times. Therefore I was trying to like,
Speaker 5: you know, catch up. So anyways, everybody still seems to
Speaker 5: just be really really mad at Noah Waterman, like he's
Speaker 5: in my opinion, he's already in the mix to be
Speaker 5: like the guy that fans are just so hard on.
Speaker 5: And look, he's clearly not played well at times this year.
Speaker 5: But I've got I've got a theory about no Waterman.
Speaker 5: Then I want to get you a little bit later on.
Speaker 5: But my point is this, I'm willing to say, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: like I know, a fans want to be upset and
Speaker 5: crush team because it's Louisville and even though we're short handed,
Speaker 5: we still shouldn't be losing to these teams because you know,
Speaker 5: we're Louisville. If that's your mindset, knocked yourself out. I'm
Speaker 5: not even being critical with you. I just I guess
Speaker 5: choosing to go out to go about it a little
Speaker 5: bit differently from my perspective as a fan, and what
Speaker 5: I'm doing is like, yeah, you know, I can't. I'd
Speaker 5: be a liar if I told you that I felt
Speaker 5: worse about this team's ability to potentially have a solid
Speaker 5: season after they played Duke. Same thing after the lost
Speaker 5: to Kentucky, because I'm seeing some good things within. But
Speaker 5: if you get to the Syracuses and the Virginia's and
Speaker 5: the Wake Forests and the Georgia Techs, the Boston Colleges,
Speaker 5: the Miami's who at this point have proven and not
Speaker 5: be very good like and you don't bring it and
Speaker 5: you lose, I mean, then you're gonna be You're kind
Speaker 5: of in my opinion, I think you're telling on yourself
Speaker 5: right now because despite these games being losses, I think
Speaker 5: you've shown to where if you could compete with those
Speaker 5: kind of teams as well as you have and beat
Speaker 5: some teams, even though it included prior, you should have
Speaker 5: a really manageable stretch during acc play from mid January
Speaker 5: to the end of the regular season. And look, maybe Clemson,
Speaker 5: I mean they did lose to Memphis over the weekend,
Speaker 5: which hurt them a little bit, hurt the acc of course,
Speaker 5: But Clemson and Pittsburgh are two teams you play before
Speaker 5: mid January that will give you a chance to get
Speaker 5: some actual value when it comes to wins. So you know,
Speaker 5: we'll talk about, you know, how things played out on
Speaker 5: Saturday and just some things I took away because again,
Speaker 5: I think these guys, you know, I would imagine that
Speaker 5: when it comes to confidence, as far as the team
Speaker 5: still having like belief in what they can do. I've
Speaker 5: never once watched them play and felt like they are
Speaker 5: feeling sorry for themselves. So I'm not when it comes
Speaker 5: to internal confidence, the guy leading the ship, Pat Kelsey,
Speaker 5: not at all worried about that in any way, not
Speaker 5: at all, I mean, and I think most would agree.
Speaker 5: But if you're critical of Pat as far as like
Speaker 5: his style of play, his decisions, I don't think anybody
Speaker 5: can can can think can accuse the guy of not
Speaker 5: being able to get guys ready to play and get
Speaker 5: guys motivated and keeping them with a good head on
Speaker 5: their shoulder. But what I'm seeing from confidence standpoint is
Speaker 5: like Terrence Edwards is now playing a little bit more
Speaker 5: loose out there, he's coming off the bench, but he's
Speaker 5: getting plenty of minutes. They're putting him in some pick
Speaker 5: and roll action at the top of the key and
Speaker 5: he can get creative there. And that's a guy that
Speaker 5: you know, if you're ever if you're gonna be even
Speaker 5: decent with the seven guys you play, he's gonna have
Speaker 5: to be a big part of it. And he's getting
Speaker 5: more and more comfortable out there kind of finding where
Speaker 5: he fits within this team, you know, and there's others
Speaker 5: that we'll get to. I mean, Chucky Hepburn, you know,
Speaker 5: sometimes he makes shots and I think, man, that was
Speaker 5: a really tough shot. He does that every now and then.
Speaker 5: I really hate to think that we have to really
Speaker 5: rely on that, but you know what you do. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's that's just that's something that probably doesn't even need
Speaker 5: to be said.
Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious.
Speaker 5: You know, you can't have like Chucky Hepburn, Terrence Edwards
Speaker 5: and Javon Hadley like all have a bad night and
Speaker 5: be really anybody. So like that's just what you know
Speaker 5: going in that the margin for error is super super thin.
Speaker 5: But the more comfortable these guys get and it, you know,
Speaker 5: there's just because keep in mind they're now playing a
Speaker 5: rotation that not only was not ideal for Pat Kelsey
Speaker 5: as far as the amount of guys he has to use,
Speaker 5: but who he has to play together.
Speaker 1: So think about that.
Speaker 5: You know, this is not something that like that they
Speaker 5: would ever do, and they would like they would never
Speaker 5: want to balance out this the way they have to.
Speaker 1: But there's so thin.
Speaker 5: They don't have many bigs, they don't have any other
Speaker 5: true point guard outside of Chucky, so they're putting edwards there.
Speaker 5: So they're kind of they were kind of restarting when
Speaker 5: they lost prior and throughout that restart, that reboot, they
Speaker 5: happened to, you know, try to find their footing when
Speaker 5: they're playing some really really good teams. So again, I
Speaker 5: would be surprised if many fans don't really see it
Speaker 5: the way I do, and they feel like, you know,
Speaker 5: this guy's just he's in the bag for Kelsey. He's
Speaker 5: I mean, he's kissing his ass more than he kissed
Speaker 5: chris My ax ass. Like I bet there's somebody thinking
Speaker 5: that right now, and that's fine, But I know, I
Speaker 5: think by mid January, I'll know that if I was
Speaker 5: foolish and naive to think that these losses was any
Speaker 5: sign of growth or if you know what, Yeah, this team,
Speaker 5: you know they came up short against really, really good teams,
Speaker 5: but that doesn't mean that they're terrible.
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Speaker 5: give us a call. A good text came in as
Speaker 5: I'm I was trying to kind of process the question.
Speaker 5: I thought it was a good question, but the more
Speaker 5: I think about it, it's like it's, you know, not
Speaker 5: a bad question, but like I think the answer is
Speaker 5: really really obvious, but maybe I'm wrong. The question was
Speaker 5: because I mentioned for those who just now joined us,
Speaker 5: I did not really watch the I mean it was on,
Speaker 5: but like I didn't intently watch this thing until after
Speaker 5: I already knew what happened, and it probably was good
Speaker 5: for my mental health. It was nice to kind of
Speaker 5: be distracted and not because you can't halfway watch or
Speaker 5: either like all in or you're kind of like cat like.
Speaker 5: I found myself wanting to look away because I knew
Speaker 5: that if I if I kept you know, if I
Speaker 5: stayed locked in, I would, you know, probably be rude
Speaker 5: to the people that I was around, or I may
Speaker 5: you know, just make a fool of myself and scream
Speaker 5: a curse word because I'm just, you know, a lunatic
Speaker 5: for this game. But the question that came in was,
Speaker 5: would you take an automatic victory for your team in
Speaker 5: the rival Louisville beating Kentucky if it meant you knew
Speaker 5: you didn't get to see any of it? And I'm like,
Speaker 5: h like, I'm thinking, like weighing, like what, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: anything like if I mean, beating Kentucky would probably in
Speaker 5: basketball just because of how long it's been and because
Speaker 5: you know it's the new era and you always, i
Speaker 5: mean really any under any circumstance, you want to beat
Speaker 5: your rival in a major way and.
Speaker 1: You feel like you would do a lot for that
Speaker 1: to happen.
Speaker 5: But it's if it's probably a feeling that most would
Speaker 5: describe as better than sex. I mean, that's only something
Speaker 5: you could decide for yourself. But like, I wouldn't be
Speaker 5: shocked if others are like, yeah, you know what, I've
Speaker 5: had some pretty good sex, some pretty good action over
Speaker 5: the years, but man, beating Kentucky and Mark Pope's first year,
Speaker 5: that felt just as good. Like that's not a crazy
Speaker 5: thing to think that other people. I mean again, if
Speaker 5: you're wired like we are lunatics, about this stuff, then
Speaker 5: you know exactly what I'm talking about. So yeah, I'll
Speaker 5: I'll sacrifice for the team, not watch a second of
Speaker 5: it if it meant Louisville was able to win, and
Speaker 5: I'll just celebrate knowing, Hey, we got laid.
Speaker 1: I mean that's not to be.
Speaker 5: So, you know, I don't know if that's a great analogy,
Speaker 5: but yeah, I mean, like I would answer your question
Speaker 5: about saying yes if I if I knew that Louisville
Speaker 5: never lost to Kentucky again in basketball and it meant
Speaker 5: I could never watch a single game, I would take.
Speaker 6: It to hell with that.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 5: I mean I, I mean, this would never happen, so like,
Speaker 5: this is such a silly hypothetical, but I kind of
Speaker 5: feel like most would side with me, but maybe others
Speaker 5: are like, well, it wouldn't be as enjoyable if if
Speaker 5: I didn't get to watch it. Well, you know, I
Speaker 5: guess that's that's true. But you know what if it
Speaker 5: meant like you're doing a fifty to fifty shot every
Speaker 5: time without knowing I know what the pain feels like,
Speaker 5: and I'd be able to avoid that.
Speaker 6: I mean yeah, and you could still go online and
Speaker 6: react to it and still talk yours.
Speaker 5: I'll ask you this on the text line. This is
Speaker 5: the first time this person has texted in the show,
Speaker 5: so hopefully they are still listening. And because it's a
Speaker 5: mean again to me, it doesn't matter, but maybe there's
Speaker 5: a little bit more to like if you get I
Speaker 5: think if you get to watch it after the fact,
Speaker 5: even though you knew the result, everybody would sign up
Speaker 5: for that. Yeah, I think everybody would sign up regardless.
Speaker 5: But you know that's just me. All right, Uh, let's
Speaker 5: go to the phone lines five two. If I've seven won,
Speaker 5: seventy nine hundred is the number. If you want to
Speaker 5: jump in and join us. Let's go to Jerry. Jerry,
Speaker 5: how are we doing this afternoon, Sir Ad?
Speaker 2: All Right, I'm real quick. I'm a Bron guy and
Speaker 2: I'm a Kelsey guy, but on either one of them,
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent bought in. Uh yet. You know,
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, last year we sort
Speaker 2: of choked in football and Bron went up to Commonwealth
Speaker 2: and made up for it. This year. I'm not a
Speaker 2: big moral victory guy. I don't give a damn for
Speaker 2: we walk in there with four players. We got to
Speaker 2: win that game eventually, okay. And the thing about it
Speaker 2: is is this, That's one of the reasons. You know,
Speaker 2: I talked about James Scott last year. Pat Kelsey doesn't
Speaker 2: have time to wait on James Scott. He's gotta win
Speaker 2: and win now. And when he came here, he said
Speaker 2: he's got to win now now. I did not go
Speaker 2: into Saturday's game thinking we're gonna win that game. But
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ever say that I'm satisfied and I'm
Speaker 2: happy and blah blah blah. It's just not the way
Speaker 2: I'm wired. And not only the Louisville fans should attack
Speaker 2: this game. Yeah, we stop and think about it. What
Speaker 2: would their reaction be if we flipped this. You know,
Speaker 2: their fans, they wouldn't have any patience for Pat Kelsey
Speaker 2: or Mark Pope getting right in the ship right the day.
Speaker 5: Let me ask you this, Jary, do you think that
Speaker 5: they you know, I didn't get a ton of confidence
Speaker 5: that they felt like they were going to blow us out.
Speaker 5: I think they felt like they would win, But I
Speaker 5: kind of feel like again and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 5: I wasn't in the in the the weeds after the game,
Speaker 5: just checking to see what people were saying on social
Speaker 5: media postgame shows that kind of stuff. But I kind
Speaker 5: of feel like Kentucky wanted to be a little bit
Speaker 5: more chesty about beating Louisville, but they kind of, you know,
Speaker 5: couldn't help but hide that they felt like, you know,
Speaker 5: they probably should. Either they felt that they did respect
Speaker 5: this team a little bit more than they anticipated, or
Speaker 5: they just you know, realized they probably should have beat
Speaker 5: us by more because obviously some other teams did beat
Speaker 5: Louisville by more. I you're right about like Louisville fans
Speaker 5: should not feel like, Okay, we won or everything's great.
Speaker 1: I because there's nothing.
Speaker 5: There's no scenario where you lose to Kentucky my and
Speaker 5: you'd ever be able to be anything other than angry
Speaker 5: and sad and you know, sometimes just depressed.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that crazy. But I do think, you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard.
Speaker 5: For me to be angry at any one individual because
Speaker 5: I don't really know what. You know, this is going
Speaker 5: to sound like such an excuse kind of thing, but Jerry,
Speaker 5: I don't really know what Pat Kelsey can do with
Speaker 5: the seven players he currently has that would make them
Speaker 5: for sure be able to win these kind of games. Now,
Speaker 5: the criticism of did you fill the scholarships effectively? That's
Speaker 5: a legitimate point that clearly has come around. You know,
Speaker 5: tough to know that this would happen, but it's come
Speaker 5: around to kind of bite him in the rear end.
Speaker 5: But yeah, like I want to clarify, Like I the
Speaker 5: way you mentioned you being wired, I'm I'm I'm kind
Speaker 5: of the same way, and I think a lot of
Speaker 5: people are. And that's just the way it's always going
Speaker 5: to be.
Speaker 2: Well, real quick, you know, here's the thing. He couldn't
Speaker 2: have coached much better, they couldn't have played much better.
Speaker 2: I get that, But the end of the day, it's
Speaker 2: an l we lost, yep, okay, and that's got to
Speaker 2: be fixed. It's got to be fixed soon. You know.
Speaker 2: It's like you think that heat isn't on him for
Speaker 2: next year. It should be. I hope it is. It
Speaker 2: needs to be. Yeah, that's just the way it is, right, okay,
Speaker 2: real real quick. You know, I went back and watched
Speaker 2: a little bit today. Remember how I talked about James
Speaker 2: Scott not being a threat. Second possession? Second possession? He
Speaker 2: had the ball, a pass from Chucky, hepburn and he
Speaker 2: was square to the rim from twelve feet He had
Speaker 2: a man. His man was five feet off of him.
Speaker 2: He turned and dribbled and handed off, turned a shot down.
Speaker 2: How are we ever gonna get anywhere? I got another one? Okay.
Speaker 2: We didn't start out good out of the gate, you know,
Speaker 2: I think we were down thirteen to five. There was
Speaker 2: one play where Waterman busts his butt to get back
Speaker 2: into the paint, but then he doesn't turn and see
Speaker 2: anybody coming. They flip it back to zuble zero and
Speaker 2: he jams it in our face. You know. So, I
Speaker 2: mean that was like a sixth grade move by Waterman.
Speaker 2: I mean, is that Pat Kelsey's fault?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: You know, but I just that's an observation.
Speaker 5: Sure, No, I mean there was I mean there were
Speaker 5: guys that did some good things that like kept it competitive,
Speaker 5: and then there were times where those same guys, you know, like, how.
Speaker 1: Do you miss that shot?
Speaker 5: That's literally why you were here to make that exact
Speaker 5: shot in that moment? How do you you know, how
Speaker 5: do you miss it? Terrence Edwards played great, but then
Speaker 5: he missed it. He missed a layup that like could
Speaker 5: have been a big momentum. He misses a layup, they
Speaker 5: come down. Butler nails a three on there, or no,
Speaker 5: maybe it was. It's either Butler or Robinson nail a three.
Speaker 5: So yeah, look those observations I'm with you. I'm making
Speaker 5: I'm making the same ones.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5: When you mentioned James Scott out there, I kind of
Speaker 5: felt like, Okay, you know, I can't really think of
Speaker 5: any specific like, oh man, you got to get this
Speaker 5: guy out of the game.
Speaker 1: But it also furthered your point. It made me.
Speaker 5: Realize offensively, he's just out there taking up space and
Speaker 5: sometimes in the way like when he with him being
Speaker 5: such an you know, he's not a threat to score.
Speaker 5: It makes a very limited team offensively even easier to
Speaker 5: defend if you're an opponent. So just wanted to say
Speaker 5: said that, and I agree.
Speaker 2: Three more things real quick Edwards. Edwards would be a
Speaker 2: ten to twelve percent better shooter if they could fix
Speaker 2: the rotation on his ball. Just watch his ball on
Speaker 2: his shots. It's what I like to refer to as
Speaker 2: a dead ball. It's barely got any rotation. And if
Speaker 2: he would fix that, he would be such a better shooter. Okay,
Speaker 2: football players, I wish Pat Kelsey would go to Jeff
Speaker 2: Brown and see if there was somebody that could help
Speaker 2: us like Joshua Tench did, like josh Chichester did years ago.
Speaker 2: And I got one more thing. I got a standing
Speaker 2: argument with a buddy of mine. Have I heard you
Speaker 2: say on this show before that as a senior at
Speaker 2: North Bullet that you were six Region player of the year? Yes?
Speaker 2: Or no?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No? Okay? I thought I were you on the all
Speaker 2: six region team as a senior? Yes, okay, okay, but
Speaker 2: not six Region player of the Year.
Speaker 1: No, no, not even close. I was Bullet.
Speaker 5: I was Bullet County player of the year. If that
Speaker 5: has any value, I can give you the rest of
Speaker 5: the resume if you'd like.
Speaker 1: But no, that is I.
Speaker 5: I don't think I was in consideration for the regional
Speaker 5: player of the year.
Speaker 2: I got you, I got it. It's all good. It's
Speaker 2: all six reason Nick Coffee.
Speaker 5: Thanks take care, Jerry. Yeah, you know, Jerry's become a
Speaker 5: regular caller. I enjoy, actually really enjoy talking to him,
Speaker 5: just because I think he's got a lot. You know,
Speaker 5: he's gonna say what he means, and uh, you know
Speaker 5: some people will. In fact, I really like Jerry because
Speaker 5: Jerry gets the people going because you know, he's pretty
Speaker 5: hard on his team and he uh, he made that
Speaker 5: clear today just by saying, you know this no sent
Speaker 5: and I get where he's coming from. I just think
Speaker 5: sometimes people hear it and they would, you know, they
Speaker 5: just maybe they don't feel the exact same way. But
Speaker 5: I've always felt like, deep down you kind of agree
Speaker 5: more so than you realize. With people that are hard
Speaker 5: on your team, you just kind of have a different
Speaker 5: way of, like I guess, approaching it.
Speaker 1: But when it comes to the you know what he.
Speaker 5: Said about James Scott and you know Waterman, and like,
Speaker 5: I think all that's valid. Like you can you can
Speaker 5: be critical and you can be concerned about what it
Speaker 5: means for the rest of this season. Maybe there's some
Speaker 5: things you're seeing that have you concerned about Kelsey long term.
Speaker 5: I don't really know what that would be, because we're
Speaker 5: not really I mean I really and that's not to
Speaker 5: say that everything's gonna be great. We don't know, but
Speaker 5: like he's not he's playing with seven guys, and the
Speaker 5: other day in Lexington, you know, he played James Scott
Speaker 5: twelve minutes before fouling out, and he played Canai rus
Speaker 5: A total of thirteen minutes and he got literally not
Speaker 5: a thing from him. So you know, he's playing five
Speaker 5: guys for the most part, and that's again, it's not ideal.
Speaker 5: So I just have a hard time generating any real
Speaker 5: like oh these guys, or come on, what do you doing? Whenever, Like,
Speaker 5: I just don't know what else they could do with
Speaker 5: what they have to work with and get better results, which,
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, at times, I'm like, well, hey,
Speaker 5: keep fighting, keep fighting the good fight, fellas man. One
Speaker 5: day you're gonna get hot from three even more so
Speaker 5: than you have at times, and you're gonna steal a win.
Speaker 5: And like, I don't I guess I'm mocking myself there,
Speaker 5: But like sometimes I'm like, cause, again, that's kind of how.
Speaker 1: I viewed the Kentucky game, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like I'm thinking, you know what, given the circumstance, we lost,
Speaker 5: and I'm not happy, but I've yet to kind of
Speaker 5: throw in the towel on this team potentially being able
Speaker 5: to find themselves in the tournament. But then there's also
Speaker 5: like the demoralizing side of it, like the glass you know,
Speaker 5: the glass half empty side, and that is like, wow,
Speaker 5: let me look at this stat line. You got twenty
Speaker 5: three points from Terrence Edwards and you got twenty six
Speaker 5: from Chucky. Those guys made nine of eighteen threes, the
Speaker 5: two of them. Waterman made a few threes. He gave
Speaker 5: you twelve and twelve, Javon Hadley ten and six. Rain
Speaker 5: Smith not a great night for him, but he still
Speaker 5: gave you double digits at ten. I'm thinking, oh, you know,
Speaker 5: all right, that's a good recipe, but like, how consistently
Speaker 5: can you get that much out of it?
Speaker 1: Like that?
Speaker 5: Not to say, those guys played the perfect game and
Speaker 5: their ceiling was met and they'll never play another a
Speaker 5: better game than that. But you know you're gonna like
Speaker 5: you played a really again it sounds I tried not
Speaker 5: to go directly there and say it because it would,
Speaker 5: you know, it would make it even more so sound
Speaker 5: like I'm doing the more victory stuff.
Speaker 1: But you played really, really well and yet you still lost.
Speaker 5: Now again you got to decide, okay, are you going
Speaker 5: to are you in the middle or are you more positive,
Speaker 5: pessimistic or optimistic because you know, you could say, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was at rupp Arena against the top five Kentucky
Speaker 5: team or top ten Kentucky team. So if you you know,
Speaker 5: maybe maybe you won't need twenty six and twenty three
Speaker 5: apiece from Chucky or Edwards, if you you know, if
Speaker 5: you're playing a middle of a pack SEC team instead
Speaker 5: of Kentucky or whatever. So I have a reasoning for
Speaker 5: why I'm choosing to view things the way that I am,
Speaker 5: but I just can't generate like any real like disappointment. Again, honestly,
Speaker 5: it's not disappointment and it's not anger. It's just being
Speaker 5: bummed and being sad because like, they got dudes who
Speaker 5: they expected to play a lot this year that aren't playing,
Speaker 5: and now we know they got seven guys that they trust,
Speaker 5: and that just leaves it to where, you know, sometimes
Speaker 5: if you don't get the production you had from everybody,
Speaker 5: and like, am I crazy, Austin? I know you know
Speaker 5: everybody've viewsed it differently, but like I think all five
Speaker 5: of those guys, despite making mistakes at times, nobody's perfect.
Speaker 5: But like, if you got that production from those five
Speaker 5: guys consistently every night, I feel like you'd be able
Speaker 5: to beat a lot of teams.
Speaker 6: Oh, if you got that production from Duke or Old Miss.
Speaker 6: We're not talking about blowouts.
Speaker 5: But it's just kind of it's hard for me to say, Okay,
Speaker 5: now you've set the standard because like one of the
Speaker 5: reasons why we nitpick about certain players is because you
Speaker 5: know what they're playing thirty five minutes a game.
Speaker 1: Because they're such a short bitch.
Speaker 5: So anyways, all right, quick break, Jerry said something interesting
Speaker 5: about bringing football players.
Speaker 1: To the basketball side.
Speaker 5: I doubt that would ever happen, but you know, I
Speaker 5: guess crazy things have happened. But speaking of football, Jet
Speaker 5: Brom did in fact land his quarterback for the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty seasons.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that and a lot more.
Speaker 5: Get back to your phone calls, and I'm going through
Speaker 5: my therapy session today, you know, kind of talking through
Speaker 5: what made me very sad between the Cards and the
Speaker 5: Cats on Saturday. It's Coffee and Company. Feel about Thornton's
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Speaker 5: Day, Are Kentucky fans still looking for somebody to to
Speaker 5: take Mark Stoops off their hands? I mean I think
Speaker 5: they are, but I don't know. They lay landed a
Speaker 5: couple of Mac players in the portal, so maybe they're
Speaker 5: maybe they're fired up for uh for stoops. Now, however,
Speaker 5: there is a new power for job open wake Forest
Speaker 5: is going to be available, meaning the gig because Dave
Speaker 5: Clawson has stepped down, and I'm trying to run through
Speaker 5: these reports. I'm reading our man Zac Barnette FootballScoop dot
Speaker 5: com right now, and it doesn't appear that there's he's
Speaker 5: gonna he's gonna remain on staff, but I don't really
Speaker 5: know in what It looks like it's gonna be an
Speaker 5: advisory role with the university. So I would imagine giving
Speaker 5: that he's a football player, than he he will advit.
Speaker 5: Or he's a football coach, then he would be an
Speaker 5: advisor I guess for football.
Speaker 1: But my guess is that he's.
Speaker 5: Going to retire, step down as far as being a
Speaker 5: head coach. But like he did enough there, which he did.
Speaker 5: I mean, Clawson to me has a real, real unlikable face,
Speaker 5: which I'm sure people probably say the same about me.
Speaker 5: But like you know, like unless like you're related to
Speaker 5: Dave Clawson or you played for him, or he's your coach,
Speaker 5: like you probably would just assume Ye, I don't know him,
Speaker 5: but I could see myself probably you know, not liking
Speaker 5: this guy. Maybe I'm just realizing that, you know, there
Speaker 5: was a connection, there was some history there between him
Speaker 5: and Louisville, and maybe that's why I'm saying that. But
Speaker 5: either way, he did a lot. He did a really
Speaker 5: good job at wake Forest. To be honestly, that's not
Speaker 5: a good job at all, and it's one as far
Speaker 5: as resources, it's got to be one of the worst
Speaker 5: in the power for I mean, the only thing that
Speaker 5: has going forward is that there's actually a pretty good
Speaker 5: area of talent in the Carolinas, and you're close enough,
Speaker 5: I guess to like the South. But other than that,
Speaker 5: like everything about that job is a challenge compared to
Speaker 5: the others in the ACC and of course those in
Speaker 5: your area there NC State, North Carolina, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 5: So he did a good job, so I would imagine
Speaker 5: they're probably just wanted to keep him around and you know,
Speaker 5: probably you know, consulting for the athletic department overall. But
Speaker 5: who they would go after, I have no clue, I mean,
Speaker 5: and I'm joking because it's actually a good question though,
Speaker 5: Like if Stoops is not gonna yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 5: throw out a silly hypothetical, but it's not you know,
Speaker 5: it's not worth it because it just it's so unrealistic.
Speaker 5: But I was gonna say, if Stoops could get the
Speaker 5: same deal at wake Forest, would he go, But he
Speaker 5: wouldn't like wake Forest couldn't and wouldn't pay that because
Speaker 5: one nobody would pay that for Stoops. But also, you know,
Speaker 5: wake Forest, whoever they hire, whoever they could get, they
Speaker 5: clearly don't have the bank roll that some SEC schools have,
Speaker 5: unless you know, they had some private funding to go
Speaker 5: get a big name like a Bill Belichick or something
Speaker 5: like North Carolina did. But yeah, I mean I doubt
Speaker 5: Stoops would ever leave for Kentucky because again, it wouldn't
Speaker 5: make any sense for him unless he just wants to
Speaker 5: take a pay cut. By the way, speaking of football,
Speaker 5: we'll get back into the louisvill basketball stuff coming up
Speaker 5: here next couple of hours, because actually have a lot
Speaker 5: more to share on just what I took from the game,
Speaker 5: the future of the rivalry, and of course I'm eager
Speaker 5: to hear from you guys as well. I know, I
Speaker 5: know you know, we didn't have a post game show
Speaker 5: Saturday or anything like that, So if you want to
Speaker 5: sound off, then you know, we'll let you do that
Speaker 5: coming up here in the four o'clock hour. But again
Speaker 5: back to sticking with football, Miller Moss commits the Louisville
Speaker 5: on Saturday. Kind of issue was after the game rather
Speaker 5: than before, because you know, it wouldn't have made me
Speaker 5: feel any better about losing the Kentucky, but at least
Speaker 5: it would have given me something, you know, like the
Speaker 5: joy when he committed, which it looks like it came
Speaker 5: at right around Yeah, it was at well, I guess,
Speaker 5: well the news broke that he committed like during the game,
Speaker 5: I think, or maybe a little bit before. But had
Speaker 5: I known, like after losing the Kentucky, oh wow, we
Speaker 5: got our quarterback again. It still all works out, but
Speaker 5: like you know, I think you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But anyways, same exact execution that you saw last year
Speaker 5: from Jeff Brahmin.
Speaker 1: The portal.
Speaker 5: When it comes to Tyler, Shuck figured out there was
Speaker 5: some mutual interest scheduled an early visit. I think with
Speaker 5: Shuck there was a couple of other schools that were
Speaker 5: interested that he was going to visit, but he visited
Speaker 5: Louisville and it was done. And that's what's happened here
Speaker 5: with Miller Moss. And I know it sounds like, you know,
Speaker 5: what you'd expect me to say, but this guy has
Speaker 5: has some real talent and ability we saw at firsthand
Speaker 5: against Louisville last year. I know he didn't end up
Speaker 5: maintaining the starters at starting job at USC this year,
Speaker 5: but I think, you know, there were some circumstances that
Speaker 5: that factored into that. And I trust Jeff Brom. If
Speaker 5: he thinks this kid's good enough and can do what
Speaker 5: he needs his quarterback to do at that position, then
Speaker 5: you know, I trust him, and I just I think
Speaker 5: moving forward, and maybe it's not just maybe it's not
Speaker 5: just Louisville, maybe it's most programs, But like Jeff Brom
Speaker 5: is going to continue to do this every year. I
Speaker 5: think he actually likes the idea of reloading with a
Speaker 5: different quarterback every year, not because he wants it. Like
Speaker 5: if he gets a guy in the portal that he
Speaker 5: likes that ends up having you know, two years.
Speaker 1: Of eligibility or three years of eligibility left, I think
Speaker 1: that would be great.
Speaker 5: But like he's I think he knows he's capable of
Speaker 5: finding somebody, evaluating somebody that he one believes is good
Speaker 5: enough to do what he needs, but also developing them,
Speaker 5: maximizing what you can do as a play caller with
Speaker 5: what they bring to the table as a QB. Like,
Speaker 5: I think he's comfortable in that and he knows every
Speaker 5: year there's gonna be guys out there to pick from. So,
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know what it with the nil
Speaker 5: deal cost or anything like that, but you know, it
Speaker 5: was pretty it was a pretty boring.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: You know, search for a new quarterback. Right coaching searches
Speaker 5: can be a roller coaster and can be you know,
Speaker 5: a lot, and I guess technically the portal can as well.
Speaker 5: But I think in the in the QB department, we
Speaker 5: knew right away who Jeff Brown was interested in early
Speaker 5: and they were able to establish there's clearly some mutual
Speaker 5: interest there and they got it done. So, Yeah, he's
Speaker 5: landed his QB. Moss was let's see through for three
Speaker 5: thousand and four and sixty nine yards and twenty seven touchdowns,
Speaker 5: completing sixty six percent of his passes during his entire
Speaker 5: career at USC. This past season, he threw for just
Speaker 5: over twenty five hundred and eighteen touchdowns. Started his first
Speaker 5: nine games and then was benched. And then, by the way,
Speaker 5: as soon as he was benched, he went to the portal,
Speaker 5: or at least I guess made it clear he was
Speaker 5: going to go to the portal. And I would bet
Speaker 5: that there's a lot of Louisville fans and I don't
Speaker 5: say this to like judge you, but like you know,
Speaker 5: you probably wouldn't have known who this guy was if
Speaker 5: his best career performance didn't come against Louisville. I mean,
Speaker 5: three hundred and seventy two yards and six touchdowns and
Speaker 5: that forty two to twenty eight victory that USC got
Speaker 5: over Louisville. And again, you know, Louisville that defense fell
Speaker 5: apart last year.
Speaker 1: We all know that that was a factor.
Speaker 5: But the kid looked phenomenal and that and he was
Speaker 5: good for USC until he had a really bad game
Speaker 5: with interceptions and got benched and then decided to just
Speaker 5: you know, move on and here we are. But you know,
Speaker 5: imagine telling you remember this often. Imagine telling Louisville fans
Speaker 5: who watched USC's offense with that quarterback six touchdowns light
Speaker 5: us up and saying, remember, not next year, but the
Speaker 5: year after, he's going to be your quarterback, I kind
Speaker 5: of feel like people would be over the moon, and
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe they are. I just haven't really got
Speaker 1: a chance to get a ton of reactions. That's a
Speaker 1: good reaction to it. On good That's what I would
Speaker 1: have assumed.
Speaker 5: And you know, I think it's for a few different reasons,
Speaker 5: but more so probably because I think Jeff really showed
Speaker 5: a lot this year with the quarterback. I mean not
Speaker 5: to say he was perfect, Clearly, there was some play
Speaker 5: calls that we didn't like, and you know, nobody's perfect,
Speaker 5: but I think evaluating a guy that had to be
Speaker 5: on the cheap end compared to the other big names
Speaker 5: in the portal, and he came in, Jeff used him
Speaker 5: differently than the other coaches did. He stayed healthy and
Speaker 5: Louisville's offense was really good, and certainly Tyler Sruck was
Speaker 5: a big part of that. So I think he kind
Speaker 5: of if there was anybody that kind of worried about
Speaker 5: Jeff wanting to go this way when it comes to
Speaker 5: bringing in a quarterback, you know, it could go wrong
Speaker 5: next year. We don't know until we get there. But
Speaker 5: I think this year really showed a lot that like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'll trust his judgment, and you know, it's not like
Speaker 5: you're picking some randow that you've never heard of. This
Speaker 5: guy was an elite recruit and sat behind some great
Speaker 5: quarterbacks at USC before he got his opportunity, and he
Speaker 5: made the most of his opportunity until you know, one game,
Speaker 5: and then I don't really know specifically where things soured,
Speaker 5: but you know, I would say a factor in this
Speaker 5: is probably that he didn't commit to Lincoln Riley out
Speaker 5: of out of high school, and he also never played
Speaker 5: for Lincoln Riley as his starting quarterback until this year,
Speaker 5: and maybe he knew, Okay, this just isn't gonna work.
Speaker 5: I'm going to take advantage hit the portal. So I
Speaker 5: don't want to act like there was any kind of drama,
Speaker 5: but him getting BNCH wasn't your typical Okay, we've got
Speaker 5: to make a move at quarterback because this guy's lousy.
Speaker 5: I think it was just they made a move in
Speaker 5: a really bad game for him. They were trying to
Speaker 5: find a spark because they were struggling and underwhelming, and
Speaker 5: he decided, Okay, you know, I'll see you guys later.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm glad to hear there's been a been
Speaker 1: a good reaction, and.
Speaker 6: For what it's worth, you know, INCAA Football, the game
Speaker 6: that just came out. When I'm playing it on the
Speaker 6: Dynasty mode, the computer had him I'm I win Heisman
Speaker 6: in the first year.
Speaker 1: So there, yeah, there we go. That would be that
Speaker 1: would be amazing.
Speaker 5: But I want to talk about the Heisman in the
Speaker 5: four o'clock hour because I kind of feel like it's
Speaker 5: still always gonna be a big deal, you know, the
Speaker 5: Heisman Trophy, but I just think, man, the free agency season,
Speaker 5: the transfer portal, there are fans that focus so much
Speaker 5: on that as far as how it pertains to their team, that,
Speaker 5: like a lot of other things, just kind of becomes
Speaker 5: background noise within college football. And I kind of felt
Speaker 5: like that was the Heisman Trophy award this year, but
Speaker 5: maybe that's just me. We'll get to that and also
Speaker 5: get back into basketball. And we will now open up
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