WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.160 And start listening. Now you'll see your local holiday. 2 00:00:02.799 --> 00:00:05.360 Radio station, plus all kinds of other holiday stations. 3 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:14.800 It's a meat potatoes kind of sports show because you 4 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:18.160 can't trust some sports talk and Salady Coffee and Company 5 00:00:18.199 --> 00:00:21.239 with Nick Coffee today at three on Sports Talk seven 6 00:00:21.359 --> 00:00:28.960 nine day. It's time for Coffee and Company fueled by 7 00:00:29.079 --> 00:00:31.879 Thornton's on Sports Talk seven nine day. 8 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:34.119 Holy crap, I don't know who the hell we think 9 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:34.640 when we. 10 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.320 Are get off our show. Idiot. 11 00:00:37.520 --> 00:00:40.079 The kids are playing or turn at the countries. 12 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:40.520 Are screwing it up. 13 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:43.880 Goldplay Intermurals, Brother Goldplay Intermurals. 14 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:47.000 They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not. 15 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:50.880 Who's the kid here? Who's the kid here? Are you 16 00:00:51.000 --> 00:01:03.920 kidding me? Now? Here's Nick Coffee? 17 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:12.239 What's happening? Welcome in, Happy Monday. I hope you had 18 00:01:12.239 --> 00:01:14.719 a good weekend. It is Coffee and Company fueled by 19 00:01:14.719 --> 00:01:17.840 Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety Feel like it's 20 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:20.719 been a while since I was on the air. I 21 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:23.280 mean it's been a few days. I was here Friday. 22 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:27.200 Haven't been in studio though in a while. But here today, 23 00:01:27.400 --> 00:01:30.480 ready to take you up until six o'clock and obviously 24 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:33.120 a lot to get to. Monday is always very busy, 25 00:01:33.159 --> 00:01:35.680 a lot to react to from the weekend, and that 26 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:39.079 is no different today, but not your typical Monday. As 27 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:41.599 you know, this is my first chance to really react 28 00:01:41.599 --> 00:01:46.920 to Saturday, the Louisville Kentucky game. And I really didn't 29 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:50.680 have any intention on kind of sharing this or telling 30 00:01:50.719 --> 00:01:53.040 this story. And I don't want to act like I'm 31 00:01:53.079 --> 00:01:55.879 about to tell some very entertaining tale that's going to 32 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:57.000 have you on the edge of your seat. 33 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:01.840 But I I didn't even watch the game live. 34 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.159 So if you remember, and I guess you know, you'd 35 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:07.680 have to be a listener at that exact time, or 36 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:10.120 maybe a podcast listener. But there was a moment last 37 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:12.719 week and I believe it was on might have been 38 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:17.560 on Thursday, maybe Wednesday, Austin, do you remember were you 39 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:20.800 with me when I got completely sidetracked during a segment 40 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.360 like to where I kind of like like blocked out. 41 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.560 I mean, I didn't like have an episode, but I 42 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:27.879 lost my train of thought and I mentioned looking at 43 00:02:27.879 --> 00:02:31.080 my phone and being like, oh, I just got something, yes, yes, 44 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:35.560 So what that was was that I and I'm happy 45 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:36.240 it worked out this way. 46 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:36.879 Everything was great. 47 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:41.599 But I made a commitment to go to Nashville this 48 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:45.159 past weekend a long time ago, and I never really 49 00:02:45.240 --> 00:02:46.599 I mean, in fact, I think it was something that 50 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.639 I agreed to or I keep saying, like I was 51 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:54.800 asked to go to a Titans Bengals game on which 52 00:02:54.840 --> 00:02:56.919 of course took place yesterday in Nashville with my cousin 53 00:02:56.960 --> 00:02:59.199 who lives in Arkansas. He's a big time Bingles fan. 54 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:00.919 We were really crowd was growing up, but he lives 55 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:03.879 really far away now, so long long ago. I'm talking like, 56 00:03:03.919 --> 00:03:07.840 you know, early football season, maybe even actually no before that. 57 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:09.759 It was before the NFL season started. He said, Hey, 58 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:11.360 I'm going to be bringing you know, he's going to 59 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:13.360 bring his family to come up to watch the Bengals 60 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:15.159 play in Nashville. Just have a weekend, would you and 61 00:03:15.159 --> 00:03:17.639 Moose want to come? And I was like, hell, yeah, 62 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:19.680 just let me know, you know, let me know what date. 63 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.159 And you know, he sent me the schedule and like 64 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:23.439 the date was the day of the game, like the 65 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:26.759 NFL schedule was together. So he let me know right away, like, hey, 66 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.039 here's the date and you know, and I was like, what, oh, 67 00:03:29.039 --> 00:03:31.319 I owe you? And of course he's great so he's like, nothing, 68 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:33.280 just I got the tickets to show up and we'll 69 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:35.080 have a great time. And I was like, well, that's awesome. So, 70 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.520 you know, because I, you know, because I'm not the 71 00:03:38.759 --> 00:03:41.039 like usually when it comes to like trips and plans 72 00:03:41.080 --> 00:03:42.840 and that kind of stuff like going out of town 73 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.759 for a weekend or for a week like, I usually 74 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:47.560 just you know, go where I'm told, Like my wife 75 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:50.039 coordinates all that. So I always kind of knew in 76 00:03:50.080 --> 00:03:51.159 the back of my mind I was going to be 77 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.599 going to the Beeler the Steeler, not the Steelers, but 78 00:03:53.639 --> 00:03:56.560 the Bengals Titans game. But it just, you know, kind 79 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:58.319 of out of sight, out of mind. And I even 80 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:00.199 knew a few weeks ago that it was coming up, 81 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:02.759 but I never put it together that the that it 82 00:04:02.840 --> 00:04:04.199 was on. You know, it's the same week in the 83 00:04:04.319 --> 00:04:09.280 UK you UFL play in basketball, So and I think 84 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:11.000 another and this is me giving myself, I guess a 85 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.680 little bit of an excuse here. I the game was 86 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:15.919 way earlier than it usually is. If we end up 87 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.279 with a game that is, you know, on a Saturday 88 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:20.759 afternoon like this one, it usually ends up like being 89 00:04:21.079 --> 00:04:23.040 after Christmas. To be honest with you, like in between 90 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.920 Christmas in the New Year, so it was earlier. So again, 91 00:04:26.079 --> 00:04:28.560 you know, I just but I got that text message 92 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:30.959 just reminding me that like, hey, you know, we're going 93 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:33.000 to be getting to town on Saturday at this time, 94 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:35.079 looking forward to seeing you, and I just like, oh 95 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:38.600 my god, Like I totally didn't realize that, like I 96 00:04:38.639 --> 00:04:41.040 will be traveling to Nashville the day that they play, 97 00:04:41.120 --> 00:04:43.240 and usually the day that these two teams play, Like 98 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:45.480 I'm I might as well be locked away in like 99 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:49.759 a you know, just kept to myself. I mean not really, 100 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.040 but like you know, if I'm in public, I'm grown 101 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:53.879 enough now to where I don't make a scene or anything. 102 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:56.439 So what started happened late last week was that me realizing, 103 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:57.839 you know what, like what am I going to do here? 104 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:00.160 I'm clearly going to go and it would probably be 105 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.759 better for me to not, you know, like to maybe 106 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:06.680 be not in an area where everybody else is gonna 107 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:08.720 be caring about this game. I mean, Nashville is like 108 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:10.480 one of the most So I ended up getting to 109 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:15.160 town at around four o'clock, so hour and fifteen minutes. 110 00:05:15.199 --> 00:05:17.519 We get settled into the hotel and you know, they 111 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:19.839 my family knew, like, hey, we're gonna we're gonna make 112 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:22.240 arrangements to you know, make sure Nick can watch the game, 113 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:24.800 because like they couldn't believe that I was coming, despite 114 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.160 this big game that usually you know, just people don't 115 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.160 make big plans to do things on those dates. And 116 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.079 I probably wouldn't have had I known, but I'm really 117 00:05:32.079 --> 00:05:33.319 glad that it worked out the way that it did. 118 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:37.639 So we ended up out at a bar restaurant area 119 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:41.000 in downtown Nashville, and it was on, but the sound 120 00:05:41.079 --> 00:05:43.759 wasn't on, and I was, you know, catching up with family, 121 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:45.639 so I was watching, we were chatting, but like I 122 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:50.519 wasn't intently watching and I didn't hear sound, so like 123 00:05:50.639 --> 00:05:52.399 I was able to keep up. And I've since watched 124 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.959 the game actually a time, you know, nearly two times. 125 00:05:56.319 --> 00:05:58.279 I watched it all over again last night, which was 126 00:05:58.319 --> 00:05:59.920 a really sad way to end my weekend of fish. 127 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:01.560 But you know, I feel like it's kind of part 128 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:03.040 of the job. I need to watch the game in 129 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.120 its entirety, and you know, hearing the broadcast and stuff, 130 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:07.920 I think gives you more context to talk about it 131 00:06:07.959 --> 00:06:09.959 on the radio, like I'm going to do today. And 132 00:06:10.000 --> 00:06:11.959 then earlier today, I was kind of just skimming through 133 00:06:12.040 --> 00:06:14.439 parts and the condensed version, just trying to kind of 134 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.720 like think, okay, what you know, where were the moments 135 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:20.120 that like it felt like okay, you know, you either 136 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:22.879 need to take advantage right here if you want to 137 00:06:22.920 --> 00:06:25.839 be able to potentially win, or you have a play 138 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:28.319 where it doesn't work. You know, you miss a layup 139 00:06:28.560 --> 00:06:30.399 or maybe not a wide open layup, but a decent 140 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.800 shot around the rim, or you get a really good look, 141 00:06:34.160 --> 00:06:37.519 a great look at from three that would have absolutely 142 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:39.560 given you all the momentum, maybe even tied it up 143 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.000 or cut the deficit to two. Like those were you know, 144 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:44.759 I was trying to pinpoint when those moments happened, so 145 00:06:44.879 --> 00:06:47.800 like I'm well equipped to discuss it. But it kind 146 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:50.959 of worked out, you know, good for me, because as 147 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.199 I said last week, it wouldn't have been crazy for 148 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:56.360 Louisville to win, and I thought they would come out 149 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:58.680 and compete, and they did, you know, but you still 150 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:01.639 end up losing the arrival. And I've been able to, 151 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:06.279 for the most part, look at the game against and again, 152 00:07:06.319 --> 00:07:09.160 this is probably just me because we're gonna find out 153 00:07:09.199 --> 00:07:12.439 probably mid January, like who this team is And what 154 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:15.839 I mean by that is are they getting better but 155 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:19.120 shorthanded and playing really good teams? So these losses they 156 00:07:19.199 --> 00:07:21.560 sting and if you get blown out, they're actually not 157 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:25.160 good losses despite these being good teams. Are you building 158 00:07:26.079 --> 00:07:29.399 and developing yourself as this new team that is clearly 159 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:31.240 going to be with seven guys for the majority of 160 00:07:31.279 --> 00:07:33.759 the season, And you know, did you get did you 161 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:36.279 get better despite those losses? To where when you get 162 00:07:36.319 --> 00:07:39.519 to teams not named Kentucky and rap Aerna, teams not 163 00:07:39.639 --> 00:07:42.279 named Duke, teams not named Ole Miss, are you going 164 00:07:42.360 --> 00:07:45.120 to be able to you know, to win and sometimes 165 00:07:45.120 --> 00:07:47.920 maybe even win big because you know there's teams in 166 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:50.240 the ACC that if you play them close, it might 167 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:53.839 even hurt you. So you know, long story short, we're 168 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:57.199 going to find out probably within a within the next month, like, okay, 169 00:07:57.360 --> 00:07:59.759 what is this because they could still lose to Carolina 170 00:07:59.800 --> 00:08:02.560 and close and be competitive and it might have me 171 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:04.360 still in the same spot where I'm at right now, 172 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:07.120 which is, yeah, they don't have a lot of room 173 00:08:07.160 --> 00:08:10.439 for air. The ceiling's probably not high. But and we'll 174 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:12.319 talk a lot about it today from the Kentucky game, 175 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.519 Like you could tell some guys are getting more comfortable 176 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:17.360 in this new world where they're only playing seven dudes 177 00:08:17.360 --> 00:08:19.680 and they're finding sort of where they fit and it. 178 00:08:19.839 --> 00:08:21.920 You know, I think you could see that. So, like, 179 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:23.720 I think every loss that they've had, like I can, 180 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:25.000 I can make an excuse for it. Now at the 181 00:08:25.079 --> 00:08:26.800 end of the day, it doesn't I'm not saying we 182 00:08:27.000 --> 00:08:29.240 shouldn't care and that like the loss doesn't count. But 183 00:08:29.279 --> 00:08:31.600 I think when they ended up losing to Ole Miss, 184 00:08:31.600 --> 00:08:33.120 it was like the way of the world kind of 185 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:35.120 fell on them. They've lost two guys for the season, 186 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.559 found that out for sure. They were fresh off that 187 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:40.200 three day or three three games and three days in 188 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:42.679 the Bahamas, and they just they will never shoot as 189 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:44.559 poorly as they did against Olemiss, in my opinion. Well, 190 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:46.519 then they come out against Duke and they competed, and 191 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:49.600 you know, they were ahead in that game for about 192 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:51.720 thirty minutes. That that doesn't mean anything in the grand 193 00:08:51.799 --> 00:08:54.200 like that doesn't have any value on your resume. You 194 00:08:54.279 --> 00:08:56.399 still lost the game, and you lost by eleven. But 195 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:59.200 I can still see, Okay, hey, they were competitive. They're 196 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:01.720 kind of finding themselves a little bit. The UTEP game. 197 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:04.120 I mean, they could have lost that one. That was 198 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:06.279 a really poor showing. But we know that that team 199 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:09.519 we saw against utep is is even the shorthanded version 200 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.720 of this team, the seven man team is better than 201 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:14.679 what they did against utep And they came out against Kentucky. 202 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:16.960 They were competitive. The moment wasn't too big for them. 203 00:09:17.440 --> 00:09:20.960 They I mean, they were comfortable out there and they 204 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:24.559 were kind of, you know, I think, a good version 205 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:27.799 of themselves for the majority of the game. And maybe 206 00:09:27.799 --> 00:09:29.960 you see it differently. I know Kentucky led for thirty 207 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.960 nine minutes and twenty two seconds, but you know, I 208 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:37.720 was I was still again viewing a team that I 209 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:41.000 know lost and in the end it wasn't even you know, 210 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.200 you did cover against Kentucky. I guess that maybe means 211 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:46.799 something to some people. But I feel like they're going 212 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:51.879 through a gauntlet right now and I'm choosing and it's 213 00:09:51.919 --> 00:09:53.960 just me. I don't think I'm alone, but I'm choosing 214 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:58.120 to see, Okay, this group is mature. They understand that 215 00:09:58.200 --> 00:10:02.600 despite these losses, like if they were fully healthy, they 216 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:04.440 might have won and we'll never know. But like I 217 00:10:04.480 --> 00:10:08.200 think it's important for these guys to maintain some confidence 218 00:10:08.200 --> 00:10:12.879 about themselves and keep a good head about them while 219 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:15.000 they ride out the rest of this schedule where they're 220 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:18.960 playing like really good teams that even if they were 221 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:22.840 healthy fully and played well, they might still lose because again, 222 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:25.480 Kentucky's a really good basketball team, Duke's a really good 223 00:10:25.480 --> 00:10:28.919 basketball team, so is Ole Miss. So is I mean 224 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.840 that Oklahoma team to beat you, they're pretty good. So 225 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:36.720 you know, I won't probably be proven right or wrong 226 00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:39.799 about that until about a month from now, or I 227 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:40.840 guess maybe you could. 228 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:42.960 Like slip up and lose to EKU. 229 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:48.120 I highly doubt that happens, but you've got EKU, Florida State. 230 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:48.919 Let me pull it up here. 231 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:50.960 I just had the schedule in front of me, because 232 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.360 you've got Florida State coming up. That's next, That's this Saturday, 233 00:10:54.840 --> 00:11:00.480 then you play the following Saturday against against ek and 234 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:02.360 then you play North Carolina on New Year's Day. I 235 00:11:02.440 --> 00:11:07.200 kind of feel like once you get to January fourteenth, 236 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:10.679 when you play Syracuse, like that's gonna be kind of 237 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:14.159 the stretch of games where you got Syracuse, Virginia, SMU, 238 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:18.320 Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Miami, NC State, Notre Dame, 239 00:11:18.399 --> 00:11:21.960 Florida State, Virginia Tech, Pitt Cal, Stanford. That rounds out 240 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.519 your schedule. I mean, think about that. You could obviously 241 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.080 lose to any of these teams if you don't play 242 00:11:26.120 --> 00:11:29.639 well because of how thin you are, and maybe some 243 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:31.799 of these teams end up being, you know, really good. 244 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:34.200 But your performance is for the most part against Duke 245 00:11:34.279 --> 00:11:38.879 Kentucky and you know what you did against and again 246 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:40.840 it's hard. I mean, I still include that they played 247 00:11:40.840 --> 00:11:44.440 really well against Indiana, and they played really well against 248 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:47.200 West Virginia in those wins, but you had Case and 249 00:11:47.200 --> 00:11:49.519 pryor now again, Case and Prior I think did a 250 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:51.720 little didn't do quite as much for this team on 251 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:53.559 the stat sheet as people realize, but clear just not 252 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:57.240 having him makes a big difference. So the team we've 253 00:11:57.279 --> 00:12:00.000 seen play well and win, or the team we've seen 254 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:05.279 play solid too well but lose to really really good teams, 255 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:09.600 that team, even the seven man rotation team, they can 256 00:12:09.639 --> 00:12:11.679 beat a lot of these teams. In fact, they should 257 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:13.519 beat a lot of these teams because they're not good 258 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.679 even when full like the ACC is not. And I 259 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:18.679 will say this like I'm gonna give them the pass 260 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:20.159 now to where like you know, and if you want 261 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:22.320 to crush him and say, hey, this team stinks. Everybody's 262 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.720 still all I can. I did miss a lot of 263 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:26.200 the reaction to the game, which I was kind of 264 00:12:26.240 --> 00:12:28.399 It was kind of nice. Nobody where I was was 265 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:30.639 watching the game or cared other than me, And of 266 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:32.639 course I stayed off social media because I was not 267 00:12:32.799 --> 00:12:35.039 fully live at all times. Therefore I was trying to like, 268 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:38.399 you know, catch up. So anyways, everybody still seems to 269 00:12:38.399 --> 00:12:41.360 just be really really mad at Noah Waterman, like he's 270 00:12:41.799 --> 00:12:45.759 in my opinion, he's already in the mix to be 271 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.600 like the guy that fans are just so hard on. 272 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:51.679 And look, he's clearly not played well at times this year. 273 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.200 But I've got I've got a theory about no Waterman. 274 00:12:54.200 --> 00:12:55.360 Then I want to get you a little bit later on. 275 00:12:55.399 --> 00:12:58.120 But my point is this, I'm willing to say, Okay, yeah, 276 00:12:58.159 --> 00:12:59.600 like I know, a fans want to be upset and 277 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:03.200 crush team because it's Louisville and even though we're short handed, 278 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.320 we still shouldn't be losing to these teams because you know, 279 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:07.840 we're Louisville. If that's your mindset, knocked yourself out. I'm 280 00:13:07.879 --> 00:13:09.919 not even being critical with you. I just I guess 281 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.919 choosing to go out to go about it a little 282 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:16.000 bit differently from my perspective as a fan, and what 283 00:13:16.039 --> 00:13:18.200 I'm doing is like, yeah, you know, I can't. I'd 284 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:19.559 be a liar if I told you that I felt 285 00:13:19.600 --> 00:13:22.120 worse about this team's ability to potentially have a solid 286 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.399 season after they played Duke. Same thing after the lost 287 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.679 to Kentucky, because I'm seeing some good things within. But 288 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:29.919 if you get to the Syracuses and the Virginia's and 289 00:13:29.960 --> 00:13:32.600 the Wake Forests and the Georgia Techs, the Boston Colleges, 290 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:34.600 the Miami's who at this point have proven and not 291 00:13:34.679 --> 00:13:37.320 be very good like and you don't bring it and 292 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:40.120 you lose, I mean, then you're gonna be You're kind 293 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:42.039 of in my opinion, I think you're telling on yourself 294 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:45.360 right now because despite these games being losses, I think 295 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:47.120 you've shown to where if you could compete with those 296 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.120 kind of teams as well as you have and beat 297 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:52.120 some teams, even though it included prior, you should have 298 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:57.120 a really manageable stretch during acc play from mid January 299 00:13:57.159 --> 00:14:01.399 to the end of the regular season. And look, maybe Clemson, 300 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:03.840 I mean they did lose to Memphis over the weekend, 301 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.519 which hurt them a little bit, hurt the acc of course, 302 00:14:06.919 --> 00:14:09.799 But Clemson and Pittsburgh are two teams you play before 303 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:12.200 mid January that will give you a chance to get 304 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:16.120 some actual value when it comes to wins. So you know, 305 00:14:16.159 --> 00:14:18.559 we'll talk about, you know, how things played out on 306 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:21.240 Saturday and just some things I took away because again, 307 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:24.080 I think these guys, you know, I would imagine that 308 00:14:24.120 --> 00:14:27.120 when it comes to confidence, as far as the team 309 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:29.559 still having like belief in what they can do. I've 310 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:33.080 never once watched them play and felt like they are 311 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.519 feeling sorry for themselves. So I'm not when it comes 312 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.519 to internal confidence, the guy leading the ship, Pat Kelsey, 313 00:14:38.679 --> 00:14:40.679 not at all worried about that in any way, not 314 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:42.600 at all, I mean, and I think most would agree. 315 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:44.559 But if you're critical of Pat as far as like 316 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:47.679 his style of play, his decisions, I don't think anybody 317 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:50.120 can can can think can accuse the guy of not 318 00:14:50.159 --> 00:14:52.039 being able to get guys ready to play and get 319 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.480 guys motivated and keeping them with a good head on 320 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:57.399 their shoulder. But what I'm seeing from confidence standpoint is 321 00:14:57.519 --> 00:14:59.799 like Terrence Edwards is now playing a little bit more 322 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:01.480 loose out there, he's coming off the bench, but he's 323 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:04.080 getting plenty of minutes. They're putting him in some pick 324 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:06.120 and roll action at the top of the key and 325 00:15:06.159 --> 00:15:08.679 he can get creative there. And that's a guy that 326 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:10.399 you know, if you're ever if you're gonna be even 327 00:15:10.440 --> 00:15:13.360 decent with the seven guys you play, he's gonna have 328 00:15:13.399 --> 00:15:14.720 to be a big part of it. And he's getting 329 00:15:14.759 --> 00:15:17.000 more and more comfortable out there kind of finding where 330 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:20.360 he fits within this team, you know, and there's others 331 00:15:20.360 --> 00:15:21.919 that we'll get to. I mean, Chucky Hepburn, you know, 332 00:15:22.120 --> 00:15:24.320 sometimes he makes shots and I think, man, that was 333 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:26.639 a really tough shot. He does that every now and then. 334 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:28.960 I really hate to think that we have to really 335 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.320 rely on that, but you know what you do. I mean, 336 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:34.080 that's that's just that's something that probably doesn't even need 337 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:34.360 to be said. 338 00:15:34.399 --> 00:15:35.159 It's pretty obvious. 339 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:41.519 You know, you can't have like Chucky Hepburn, Terrence Edwards 340 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:45.320 and Javon Hadley like all have a bad night and 341 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.480 be really anybody. So like that's just what you know 342 00:15:47.519 --> 00:15:50.279 going in that the margin for error is super super thin. 343 00:15:50.679 --> 00:15:53.320 But the more comfortable these guys get and it, you know, 344 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:56.879 there's just because keep in mind they're now playing a 345 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:01.480 rotation that not only was not ideal for Pat Kelsey 346 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:03.440 as far as the amount of guys he has to use, 347 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:04.799 but who he has to play together. 348 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:05.600 So think about that. 349 00:16:06.759 --> 00:16:09.320 You know, this is not something that like that they 350 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:12.480 would ever do, and they would like they would never 351 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:14.559 want to balance out this the way they have to. 352 00:16:14.600 --> 00:16:15.159 But there's so thin. 353 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:16.960 They don't have many bigs, they don't have any other 354 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:19.399 true point guard outside of Chucky, so they're putting edwards there. 355 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.679 So they're kind of they were kind of restarting when 356 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:26.519 they lost prior and throughout that restart, that reboot, they 357 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:28.519 happened to, you know, try to find their footing when 358 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:31.559 they're playing some really really good teams. So again, I 359 00:16:32.080 --> 00:16:35.519 would be surprised if many fans don't really see it 360 00:16:35.519 --> 00:16:37.159 the way I do, and they feel like, you know, 361 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:40.440 this guy's just he's in the bag for Kelsey. He's 362 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:42.679 I mean, he's kissing his ass more than he kissed 363 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:44.879 chris My ax ass. Like I bet there's somebody thinking 364 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.000 that right now, and that's fine, But I know, I 365 00:16:48.000 --> 00:16:51.039 think by mid January, I'll know that if I was 366 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:54.440 foolish and naive to think that these losses was any 367 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:58.039 sign of growth or if you know what, Yeah, this team, 368 00:16:58.360 --> 00:17:01.759 you know they came up short against really, really good teams, 369 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:03.600 but that doesn't mean that they're terrible. 370 00:17:04.440 --> 00:17:05.079 I don't go anywhere. 371 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:06.279 If you guys want to join us, we will open 372 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:08.000 up the phone lines coming up here on the other side. 373 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:10.160 Five oo two, five to seven, one seventy nine hundred 374 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:11.720 is the number. 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A good text came in as 394 00:18:14.240 --> 00:18:16.640 I'm I was trying to kind of process the question. 395 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:18.839 I thought it was a good question, but the more 396 00:18:18.880 --> 00:18:21.119 I think about it, it's like it's, you know, not 397 00:18:21.200 --> 00:18:22.839 a bad question, but like I think the answer is 398 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:24.920 really really obvious, but maybe I'm wrong. The question was 399 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:26.680 because I mentioned for those who just now joined us, 400 00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:29.240 I did not really watch the I mean it was on, 401 00:18:29.519 --> 00:18:32.160