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your support. I want to start with the second part,
the second portion of the original sin scandal. This is,
in my opinion, my humble, lowly opinion, the biggest scandal
in American political history, the Joe Biden cognitive decline and
how it was kept hidden we are to believe by
a small group of people, right, and the Biden family
was in charge and his closest advisors. There was like
four or five people from Joe Biden's staff, and then
like three or four people from Jill Biden's staff, and
Hunter Biden was basically acting as the chief of staff.
And that only tells half the story, because the other
half of the story, and by the way, as I
went over yesterday, I do not believe for one second,
that nobody else except this little cabal, or, as Alex
Thompson from Axios called them, the pollit Bureau. I do
not believe that they were the only ones who knew.
That defies reality and logic. Because the tales that are
told in the book Original Sin, which I have not read,
but I have read enough of the excerpts and the
analysis from people who have. I've watched several interviews with
the authors, Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson, and so I
got a pretty good gauge on the stories right that
the new pieces of information that have come out. So
there's no way that you can do, for example, a
fake town hall and bring in a bunch of Democrat loyalists,
put them into an audience setting, pretend to host a
town hall with Joe Biden, but Joe Biden is so
unable to perform that they never use any of the
audio or video. They bury it. I would love to
see if any video of it exists. Like so, everybody
in that audience knew something was wrong. You don't sit
for an hour and a half town hall and witness
that kind of performance and then know everything is fine,
particularly after they kill the project the people who shot
the video where he was like, if Donald Trump wants
to debate me.
Speaker 2: Ah, I'll do it. I'll do it too, I'll do
two debates. Whatever they had.
Speaker 1: It was like a one minute video and it had
like six jump cuts in it because he couldn't even
go He couldn't get through a one minute monologue talking
to a camera. The people who were involved in editing
that they knew. And I do not believe that the
pollt Bureau, the you know, legislative advisor, national security advisor, whatever,
all these different advisors, they weren't in there doing the editing.
They had people that did that on the campaign staff.
So people knew we had There was one campaign staffer
who quit.
Speaker 2: They left because.
Speaker 1: They said this is this is nuts, right, So the
pollot Bureau were not the only people who knew. You
had this entire group of Democrats that also knew. That's
one part of it. The other part of it, though,
is the media, the media, the legacy media, particularly the
same people that are now all of a sudden aware
that Joe Biden was incognitive decline going back to twenty nineteen,
in the first run on that campaign in twenty nineteen
and at that time, there were media stories about his age,
and again this has never been about his age. It's
been about his cognitive abilities at that time, because if
he were forty years old and was displaying this kind
of cognitive decline, I would be saying the same thing.
Speaker 2: So I want to start with the with the media,
because this is where I guess I should say.
Speaker 1: This is I'll start today with the media because I
did Democrats and the focus on the machinations that the
politbureau was engaged in. Yesterday, Jeffrey Blair over at National Review,
he writes a piece called do not expect the mainstream
media to honestly audit itself. He says, I wrote about
Joe Biden's condition a week before the twenty twenty four
presidential debate, and then after the flaming wreckage of the
twenty twenty four campaign had finally been extinguished, he had
another piece where he says, in spring of twenty twenty one,
that is to say, only a month or two after
Biden took office, our commander in chief was already having
good days and bad days. This was in twenty twenty one,
and this man ran for reelection three years later. Blair says,
this is the biggest scandal the presidency has ever seen
because it runs to the core of what the presidency
is supposed to be. At no point during his time
in office has he been fit for the presidency. There
is no getting around the revolting fact that we have
been subjected to four years of a farcical, semi presidency,
one whose drift is now so easily explained by the
simple fact that Biden was little better than a front
for an unelected committee of top men who sent us
careening from one international and domestic disaster to another. He
wrote this in twenty twenty four. He says, I didn't
even need to read this book by Tapper and Thompson
Original Sin in order to agree with the book's premise.
It's thesis because it's been mine and mine, it's been Blair's,
it's been mine, it's been conservative medias for a long time,
for years. So we accept the premise absolutely. But it's
also incomplete because it fails to adequately address the media's
role in facilityating this conspiracy for four years. He says,
for now we know two things to be certain. Joe
Biden was already mentally unfit for office even as he
was seeking the presidency in twenty nineteen. His condition worsened
from there, and his four years in office were a
front for a small team of close aids who effectively
ran the US government using him as a figurehead and
number two the mainstream media. With a few notable exceptions,
like yes Alex Thompson, they either colluded or acquiesced in
all of this right up until the moment Biden collapsed
at the debate, displaying not only a stunning incuriosity about
Biden's increasingly vegetative comportment, but also gleefully attacking anybody who
expressed doubt about his mental acuity. So the real questions,
the questions that reporters like Tapper and Thompson or others,
the questions they are actually best situated to answer, are
left unaddressed, which are why did the American media, in
the aggregate forsake its investigative duties. We're told these books
about Biden the administration's you know, many efforts to deceive
and to spind to bully national political journalists.
Speaker 2: Sure, but we are.
Speaker 1: Told little about why those journalists acquiesced so easily and
at times enthusiastically, were they really that easily fooled when
all the rest of us in America theoretically less well
informed than they, we were not. Here's Blair's appealingly simple
theory to explain this mystery again from last year, that
the media did not miss it at all. They didn't
miss it. Everybody knew, and the sorts of people who
would have normally pursued these whispers about Biden's remoteness simply
decided not to because it was not in the best
interests of the Democratic Party to do so, at least
as perceived by the herd mind of the media, the
left tinged blob of assignment editors, investigative reporters, and liberal
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Here's how you know that the media did not actually
miss the biggest political scandal in American history. In twenty nineteen,
when Joe Biden was in the primary and everybody just
considered him to be some hopelessly boring retread with no
chance of winning, the New York Times was more than
happy to report about Biden's age, and he captured the
nomination and then went into the quasi hibernation basement campaign,
which coincidentally timed perfectly to conceal his weakening state. That
was it for any investigations into that topic, right, so
they did cover it in the primary, but when he
got the nomination, then it was off off the table.
And then in the fall of twenty twenty two, there
was a brief window when it looked like Biden might
decide to pass the torch instead of running again, and
the window to discuss Biden's age was once again open.
Speaker 2: Washington Post then did a.
Speaker 1: Story once Biden chose to run for a second term
back into storage. Do not cover this story. That's how
you know that they didn't miss the story. I played
clips from the Megan Kelly Show yesterday with Jake Tapper
and Alex Thompson. I did not play four clips about
Jake Tapper's own role in all of this. And Megan
Kelly it into him for about twenty minutes, just non stop.
Here's how it started.
Speaker 3: You didn't cover mental acuity hardly at all. I mean,
time and time again when issues came up. You seem
to be running cover for the president. Interested well, I
mean we'll start with the Laura Trump issue that you
referred here. It is this happened in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Joe Biden, as we all know, his work to overcome
a stutter. How do you think it makes little kids
with stutters feel when they see you make a comment
like that.
Speaker 5: First and foremost, I had no idea that Joe Biden
ever suffered from a stutter. I think what we see
on stage with Joe Biden Jake is very clearly a
cognitive decline. That's what I'm referring to.
Speaker 6: It makes me uncomfortable.
Speaker 7: You are, No, that's so amazing.
Speaker 5: You're trying to tell me that what I was suggesting
was I think.
Speaker 4: That you were mocking his stutter. Yeah, I think you
were mocking his stutter. And I think you absolutely no
standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline.
Speaker 5: And it's very concerning to a lot of people that
this could be the leader of the free world.
Speaker 6: That is all I'm saying. I genuinely sorry for Joe.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it. I'm sure it was from a place
of concern. All we all believe that. Laura Trump, thank
you so much.
Speaker 6: Do you want to apologize to Laura Trump?
Speaker 7: Now? I've already apologized her. I called her months ago,
and what did she say?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to disclose the contents of
a private conversation, but I thought the conversation went well,
and she said she has said this publicly, so I
feel fine sharing it. She said that she would never
mock anybody's stutter. But I mean, you know, after we
did the research for this book and I realized how
bad his acuity issues were, I like, I mean, I
called Laura Trump and I said, you were you were right.
Speaker 6: She was totally right.
Speaker 3: That's the thing, because when I watched that clip, and
I'm giving voice to what a lot of people watching
the show are feeling, Jake, I feel angry because she
was right, and not only did you not allow her
to make her comments, but you seem to try to
humiliate her. You had a hostility toward the position. But
she was totally right, and then you lecture her on
how she was in no position to diagnose cognitive decline,
which you guys do at length, including on page four
of your book. You described at length as cognitive decline,
which is all she tried to do with you. But
you had such a visceral reaction to her, And my
feeling is that's because you didn't want to hear it.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm happy to talk about this. I didn't
come here thinking that you weren't going to ask me
about this. I'm happy to talk to you about it.
The first time I saw the coverage of Laura Trump's comments,
which were interpreted as her mocking Joe biden stutter, was
in January twenty twenty. I read it in conservative media
in the Daily Mail, and that's where I saw that
her comments were being interpreted that way. After those comments
were publicized, it got a lot of coverage, and Sully
Sullenberger wrote an op ed in The New York Times
criticizing her about this. So that's the context for that
that I was following up on a story that had
been out there months before. This is also in the
context of October twenty twenty, a very intense time people
on the Biden side are saying crazy things about Trump.
People on the Trump side are saying crazy things about Biden,
including Don Junior suggesting that Joe Biden is a pedophile.
So that is the larger context. But as I said,
her comments have aged well, my comments have aged poorly.
Speaker 7: I own that.
Speaker 4: But I think what is significant is, in addition to
me owning that, the reporting that Alex and I have done,
which is beyond just. And when I say just, I
don't mean to diminish it. But the comments of Joe
Biden making gaffes, saying things stupid, tripping, are all important,
and all deserved to be aired, and all deserves scrutiny.
But as you know, Megan, because even though you look
thirty years younger than me, we're roughly the same age,
Joe Biden has been saying stupid things for decades.
Speaker 1: Okay, that is true. Okay, I have to give tappra
that he so that's good. Oh he didn't realize he
was incognitive decline because he's always been this stupid. Oh
that was it. No, now I'm not buying that either.
Back to Jeffrey Blair, he says, if the media chose
not to explore Biden's mental decline because of partisan allegiance
to the Democrats or dislike of Trump, then they have
forfeited their credibility in a devastatingly permanent way. In that case,
they would have willingly participated in what I consider to
be the single worst scandal in presidential history, a mentally
incapacitated president concealed from the public and controlled by his advisors. Now,
if they have not done this, if they truly were
taken by surprise, then we are in little better position.
We are now cursed with the most useless media class
in the world, a mass of despairingly hopeless incompetence who
failed in the most important duty that they were ever
asked to perform in their jobs. I'm not sure which
verdict they would prefer. Yeah, corruption or incompetence among the
media class, and neither one of those is good. Neither one.
They're both horrifying for different reasons. And by the way,
he made these accusations, he made these points in December
of twenty twenty four, right long before original Sin came out.
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Speaker 2: I mean, get David on real quick.
Speaker 8: Here.
Speaker 2: Hey David, welcome to the show.
Speaker 8: Hey how are you Hey?
Speaker 2: I'm good, what's up?
Speaker 8: Well, here's another comment I want to make about the
Democratic Party and the media. I guess you know one
of them the same. But anyway, uh, you know, yes,
most people, why did Joe Biden get forced out? They'll
say it, well cause his continent decline. He was not
pushed out because his continent decline. He was pushed out
because he couldn't win. They had no problem putting him
back and off for four more years with his cotton declined.
He just got pulled because they think you could win.
Speaker 2: Right, And they right, You're exactly right.
Speaker 1: And it became obvious in the debate that the American
public had caught on to it. His polling numbers were terrible.
And yeah, and so that's it. You're you're exactly right.
Speaker 2: No, that's it. I appreciate the call, David. I want
to get to this next sound bite.
Speaker 7: Here.
Speaker 1: This is again Jake Tapper on the Megan Kelly Show,
and she is grilling him over his coverage.
Speaker 3: Okay, I get what you're saying that, but this minimizes
it too, because it was on some stupid things. But
I'm just I'm telling you, like over here in my ecosphere,
we were covering all of these it wasn't just falling down,
it was getting lost. It was some of the stuff
you report in your book, we knew and we were
reporting on, like the multi jump cuts in the videos
of him, or it was obvious he couldn't get through
a one minute take so they had to use those.
It was clear to us that he was using teleprompter,
and there was some reporting on that at the time,
all of which the White House was denying. Now, with
the current white House, I have some connections with the
Joe Biden white House. I had none, but you did.
You did, And so while you've been in Washington thirty years, Jake,
you guys, you and CNN have White House connections. But
there was no effort, none, to get to the bottom
of this. And now for you guys to write this
book like there was a cover up, it's like you
there was a cover up, and there was an attempted
cover up. It could only ever work if you allowed it,
if the press allowed it.
Speaker 6: Some of us tried not to, and some of us
were complicit.
Speaker 4: First of all, the Biden white House did not like me. Okay,
this is I do not have great connections with the
Biden White House.
Speaker 6: Well, clearly a.
Speaker 3: Source said, you talked to over two hundred sources for
this book, so I could have called and worked.
Speaker 7: I know. That's the point is that they were not
being honest. That's how the.
Speaker 6: Street Journal get it.
Speaker 3: In June of twenty twenty four and Jake Tapper and
CNN couldn't find sources for this story.
Speaker 6: Then before he dropped out.
Speaker 4: Annie Lynsky and Shavon Hughes did an amazing job in
their reporting and they should be heralded.
Speaker 7: And I heralded them.
Speaker 4: I had them on my show right after the debate
to talk about their great report to the debate.
Speaker 3: But you did not put them on when they published
that story, which was before the debate.
Speaker 2: Right when it was safe.
Speaker 7: Correct.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the booking situation was, but it
wasn't because I didn't want them. I'm sure I will
Let's book. I'm sure I said that they Let's book.
That did they?
Speaker 6: You?
Speaker 3: You put on a Democrat and you allowed the Democrat
to rive on the report as a Rupert Murdoch sponsored
hit piece.
Speaker 6: It's just.
Speaker 4: Going to do if we're going to if we're going
to do this, let's just stick to the facts here, Okay.
Speaker 7: When there is a damnating report.
Speaker 6: That's what I've been doing all along.
Speaker 3: The didn't miss the biggest story of the century when
it comes to presidential politics, and one of us did.
Speaker 7: Boom. Okay, so the uh.
Speaker 4: There is a difference, okay, between the clips of Joe
Biden falling on a stage at the Air Force Academy graduation.
There is the difference between the clip of Joe Biden
embarrassingly forgetting that a Republican member of Congress who he's
talking about has died. Those are embarrassing, Those are important.
But there is a difference between that and the investigative
journalism that Alex and I were able to do and
only able to do after the election. And I know
you know this because you've been talking about the scoops
in the book, and you've been talking.
Speaker 3: About I don't diminish the importance of the book. I
have supported the importance of the book, and we'll talk
about the contents of the book at length, But there
is no way we can have that conversation with an
audience that is as skeptical of your ability to tell
the story as mine is without addressing your role in
this right, Like Alex is a different story. But you
know you've watched the coverage since it came out that
you wrote this book. There are this a legion of
articles about how comparing you in some instances to like
Ojy instead of if I did it, this is if
I hit that like.
Speaker 6: You are not the right messenger to bring.
Speaker 3: The story about the cover up because you helped, you
allowed it, and you likely did that out of a
desire to help Joe Biden and hurt Donald Trump. You
didn't want to do anything that might improve Trump's chances.
Speaker 4: I do not think that that is accurate. I do
not think that that is true at all. The idea
that Chevn and Annie do their piece and we have
on the co chair of the Biden campaign is not
me trying to cover for the Biden campaign.
Speaker 7: That is me putting the questions.
Speaker 4: Of the reporting that were made to him and saying
things like, so you really haven't seen any moment, or
you would acknowledge that you wouldn't you acknowledge that he's
lost a step, he's eighty one, et cetera, et cetera.
Like I said before, do if I had known then
what I know now, would I have been more aggressive?
Speaker 7: Yes, of course.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, then all is forgiven.
Speaker 6: I guess, and you didn't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious because when I saw that Wall Street
Journal report in June of twenty four I scoffed at it, like, Okay,
it's an attempt, but it's lame. Everybody on the right
wing ecosystem and the independent media ecosystem knew it was
a lame attempt that only scratched the surface. We had
all been discussing his serious cognitive problems for years by
that point, Jake, in June of twenty twenty two, this
show did a full two hour program.
Speaker 6: On his cognitive decline.
Speaker 3: It was I know, we want to pretend I'm mentioning
the Wall Street Journal out of as a courtesy, but
those of us on this side of the aisle had
been reporting in depth on his multiple problems and the
obvious lives we were being told for years, for years.
You really want the audience to believe you were fooled.
Speaker 7: What do you mean I was fooled. I'm not saying
I was fooled.
Speaker 4: I'm saying we all saw these moments before the camera,
and they were obviously concerning, and he was obviously aging,
and that was significant but the people at the White House,
I'm trying to answer the question. So the people at
the White House, when I would call, when others would call,
when Alex would call, would.
Speaker 7: Lie, He's fine, he's fine.
Speaker 4: You'd call Democrats and say, what are you seeing behind
the scenes here, because this is concerning He's fine, he's fine.
This is just a moment. He's seventy nine, he's eighty.
He has moments like that. But he's fine. His decision
making is fine. They're still saying that. They're still saying that.
And let me defend Annie and Chevn there for a second,
because you just said that their Wall Street Journal story
just scratched the service. They got what they could get
in June twenty twenty four, and I went back, and
Alex and I went back to report some of the
same things that they reported on. For example, there was
a meeting in the White House about Ukraine funding in
January twenty twenty four, and we were able to get
people to say things as a Democratic member of Congress
that look, I don't know who any and Chavon's sources are,
but they were not able to get.
Speaker 7: Them to do that.
Speaker 4: I assume that you know they had dozens of sources
for that article, but not one of the Democrats that
they talked to would even talk on background.
Speaker 7: It is a complicated thing to try to get to.
Speaker 3: But your commentary on your show, yes, I'm going to
bring you in, But your commentary on your show, Jake,
consistently ran in one direction.
Speaker 6: Occasionally you would ask.
Speaker 7: The tough questions true.
Speaker 6: I mean, here you are.
Speaker 3: On September twenty twenty three saying that Biden was sharp mentally.
Speaker 6: September of twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Three, you said, hold on, you said he's sharp mentally.
I think the question is physically right, he's sharp mentally.
And then you pointed out that his opponent, Donald Trump
was only a couple of years younger than he was.
There are many examples where you're doing that kind of coverage.
Speaker 4: Okay, so let's let's be honest and fall about what
you're talking about.
Speaker 3: Frank, there's no problem with honesty on this show.
Speaker 2: Spicy.
Speaker 1: For the past twenty years, Jeffrey says, I watched those
cords of trust Frey with the media, one tiny braid
after another, pulling itself apart while the center still held
until with the Biden cover up, the coil snapped and
unraveled with such finality that it seems as if most
journalists haven't yet realized they are now untethered to the
American populace. I wrote an obed about this why I'm
voting for Trump, And this was why because I could
see it, and I was sick of the gaslighting, and
I knew only one way to lodge a protest against
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final clip again Megan Kelly Program, The Megan Kelly Show,
Jake Tapper, Alex Thompson, and this is the final clip
where she is just dragging Jake Sullivan, who she says
is her friend, that they're friends, and this is the
way she's treating him about his coverage of Joe Biden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Frank four came on with a biography about Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: Rank four came on to talk about his biography with
Joe Biden, and I am trying to summarize what his
conclusions were.
Speaker 7: So he is saying, good Biden.
Speaker 3: Is where is the part where you say he's not
sharp mentally? Frank, We've seen the following ten examples in
the past year, nevermind three years.
Speaker 7: I wasn't.
Speaker 4: I've already said I wish I had covered this more aggressively.
Speaker 7: Frank four had.
Speaker 4: Come to the show to talk about his book about
President Biden. This was in September twenty twenty three, and
I interviewed him about his book, and that was the
end of that. Now, I suppose in retrospect I say
again I wish I had been more aggressive. I do, yeah,
but our reporting suggests and like I said, we've talked
to more than two hundred people Democratic insiders that the
real deterioration of President Biden. And yes, there was a
degression or regression, whatever you want to call it, deterioration
since twenty fifteen, but it really started to intensify in
the summer of twenty twenty three when Bo Biden, I'm sorry,
when Hunter Biden's plea deal fell apart and Joe Biden
was terrified about what that effect would have on his side.
Speaker 3: I accept that, except that it got worse in twenty
three and people close to him say that was a
real demarcation.
Speaker 4: And in October twenty twenty three, there is the last
cabinet meeting for almost a year, and Cabinet secretaries tell
us that that began that fall twenty twenty three, began
what they call a weird period where they were kept
at bay, where they were kept away from President Biden.
Speaker 3: And now we're getting thisselfs which I do want to talk.
I'm about to switch to that though, but let me
just ask you because when we got to leading up
to the debate, which you anchored that June twenty seventh
debate twenty twenty four, there was a ton of news
leading into that debate in that month, and we look
back at your coverage and found that you ignored it.
Not only did you ignore the Jackie Velarski moment when
you had him thirteen days later, but you ignored the
freeze up that he had at the juneteenth celebration. You
ignored what happened at the G seven when he wandered
off and Georgia Maloney, Prime Minister of Italy had to
go find him. You ignored the freeze up at the
George Clooney LA fundraiser.
Speaker 6: You didn't cover it.
Speaker 3: You only covered it after the debate, after George Clooney
wrote his op ed, Jake, nobody made you do that.
There was your network at every turn was telling us
those were quote cheap fakes, and you were not combating
that narrative. CNN was actively misleading us on what our
very eyes were showing us.
Speaker 6: That's the truth, that's the record.
Speaker 7: I will acknowledge that after I was named.
Speaker 4: Moderator cooderator of the debate, I tried to make sure
that my coverage was fairly vanilla, both about Trump and
about Biden, because I just wanted to get to the debate.
Speaker 1: Interesting, would that be bias? Would that be some external
pressure influencing your coverage and what you've chosen to focus on.
You were afraid of not being in the chair for
the debate, so you tailored your coverage right, And this
is supposed to be the this is supposed to be
the cover story. Now this is this is covering. That's
what he's doing. He's covering. The media were not Joe
Biden's victims. They were his enablers. And as Jeffrey Blair
writes at National rec there are two original sins Biden's
run for reelection. I would submit the first run, but
also the media.
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