WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.839 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf 2 00:00:02.879 --> 00:00:05.360 I AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on 3 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:07.280 demand on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:11.800 Let's do some swamp watch. Swamp is horrible. 5 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:15.000 The government doesn't work. Come man, gonna make us like 6 00:00:15.039 --> 00:00:16.600 a reality TV show. 7 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:20.120 Was a bad doo, always a pleasure to be anywhere 8 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:21.120 from Washington, d C. 9 00:00:21.399 --> 00:00:25.359 Hey Joe, a town all too clearly built on a 10 00:00:25.399 --> 00:00:27.559 swamp and in so many ways. 11 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:29.719 Still a swamp. I have a watch of Maworkee, he said, 12 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:30.359 Drained the swamp. 13 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:32.359 I said, Oh, that's so, I'll keep happen. 14 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.880 You know the thing, it's kind of weird twist this 15 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:43.960 story on how things go the Trump. 16 00:00:43.759 --> 00:00:46.200 Are we looking at the same story it's from right here. 17 00:00:46.960 --> 00:00:48.679 No not, I'm looking at the other one. 18 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:53.799 Okay, So Trump concedes twenty twenty loss could if he 19 00:00:54.320 --> 00:00:58.079 conceding that twenty twenty loss could mean legal trouble, so 20 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:00.000 says former Deputy. 21 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:02.240 Ag So. 22 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:07.120 Former President Donald Trump recently changed in how he characterizes 23 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:11.079 the twenty twenty election results. Maybe good politics, they say, 24 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:13.400 because if he can see you know that hole. 25 00:01:13.560 --> 00:01:14.760 I was robbed. I was robbed. 26 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:16.879 I was robbed doesn't always play well, but it's a 27 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:21.079 bad legal strategy. According one of the former Justice Department officials, 28 00:01:23.000 --> 00:01:27.959 this is, you know, there is some point where and 29 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:30.959 I think I mentioned this yesterday, the Lincoln quote that 30 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.719 if you don't lie, you never have to remember anything. 31 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:35.480 Something like that. 32 00:01:35.959 --> 00:01:40.760 And if you're throwing things out that aren't always factual, 33 00:01:40.959 --> 00:01:43.000 or you go down a path where you're beating a 34 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:46.319 particular drum, you're going to be held accountable for that 35 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:51.079 unless you make an honest reversal and say, new information, 36 00:01:51.200 --> 00:01:54.799 new evidence has come to my attention, and this is 37 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:56.319 where it's at. 38 00:01:56.519 --> 00:02:00.920 But one of his most recent quotes, Trump I'm referred into, uh, 39 00:02:01.280 --> 00:02:03.799 not long ago August thirtieth. He says, quote, we got 40 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.799 the most votes of anybody of any sitting president in history, 41 00:02:06.840 --> 00:02:10.159 and he beat us by a whisker. He's made similar 42 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:13.680 comments and other you know, appearances in the past few days, 43 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:15.479 in the past several years. 44 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:15.800 Uh. 45 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.879 And Tom Dupree, who was a deputy assistant Attorney General in. 46 00:02:19.879 --> 00:02:21.120 The George W. 47 00:02:21.319 --> 00:02:26.080 Bush administration, he said, quote, it was probably politically smart 48 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.199 for Trump to admit he lost the election, but legally 49 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:33.800 that sure could have consequences. 50 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:37.039 Well because some of the statements, I mean, being sued 51 00:02:37.240 --> 00:02:42.759 now by people have said, you gosh, and I'm trying 52 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:51.000 to think of the former mayor of New York, oh oh, 53 00:02:51.360 --> 00:02:55.879 Juliani sounds like yeah, and that he was sued by 54 00:02:56.919 --> 00:02:59.719 He stepped to it as one of the todies of 55 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:03.080 and said, you know, this is what happened, and then. 56 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:05.840 He would he was sued. Were they folks from. 57 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:10.280 Georgia that said that they besmirched them and all of 58 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:12.639 that and he got nailed for that. So maybe that's 59 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:15.919 what they're talking about, is that in this particular case, 60 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:21.280 if now you're saying, yes, we lost, then there is no. 61 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:23.840 You know, there is no mess. 62 00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:24.919 You're just shown your cards. 63 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:28.439 Yeah, yeah, exactly, and that's gonna come back to bite 64 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:29.120 him in the ass. 65 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:32.439 Okay, Well, I would assume that the Trump team is 66 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:37.919 categorizing this ruling by Judge One Rashaan today as a win. 67 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:42.000 And that is the sentencing in the hush money case, 68 00:03:42.840 --> 00:03:46.520 the thirty four counts of false buying business records that 69 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.120 the president was found guilty of the former president was 70 00:03:49.120 --> 00:03:52.879 found guilty of back in May. That sentenceing has now 71 00:03:52.960 --> 00:03:59.319 officially been delayed to November. The twenty sixth, so post 72 00:03:59.639 --> 00:04:02.319 the present ssidential election, it was supposed to happen in 73 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.719 the coming days, expected by September the sixteenth, while that 74 00:04:05.759 --> 00:04:09.520 delay officially approved today until November twenty sixth. 75 00:04:09.599 --> 00:04:13.479 That's got to help, you know, Yeah, just that it's 76 00:04:13.479 --> 00:04:18.279 not a less heavy lifting prior to the election, and 77 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:23.600 obviously less negativity prior to the election and moving in 78 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:27.680 a better direction that is probably well welcomed. All right, 79 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:31.560 Neil Savedro marlatez in for Gary and Shannon more Swamp 80 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:35.319 watch to come to go nowhere. Also, Wayne Resnick is 81 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:38.639 going to join us at the bottom of the hour 82 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.639 to talk about Hunter Biden. He was twenty eight years 83 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:44.600 as a federal probation officer and. 84 00:04:44.759 --> 00:04:45.720 He knows his stuff. 85 00:04:45.839 --> 00:04:46.879 Yeah, and just an. 86 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:49.959 Excellent breakdown of it on the Morning show today, and 87 00:04:50.000 --> 00:04:51.800 we invited him to come in and he said yeah, 88 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:53.360 So he'll be joining us a little bit later at 89 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:54.560 the bottom of the hour as well. 90 00:04:54.879 --> 00:04:59.120 Ah oh, mart I have to do the heimlig Oh my. 91 00:04:59.079 --> 00:04:59.920 God, I was laughing. 92 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:04.879 You were You're you're so just the facts. 93 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:08.879 I love it, And you're like, what. 94 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:11.079 How do I respond to? What is the best way? 95 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:15.560 What the hell happened. Oh my gosh. The old joke, 96 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.199 hey were you hit by a car? No? 97 00:05:19.199 --> 00:05:20.279 You got to post that photo. 98 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:22.240 Oh no, the old joke was, hey were you hit 99 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:28.319 by a truck? No, it was a car. I'll post 100 00:05:28.560 --> 00:05:33.360 one of the spiked hair ones. That's amazing because Steve 101 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:36.199 Gregory we were talking about high school or whatever, and 102 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:39.480 he sent a picture of me from like ninth grade 103 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:42.319 a yearbook. He knows a police officer apparently that I 104 00:05:42.360 --> 00:05:43.920 went to school with. He didn't give me the name 105 00:05:43.959 --> 00:05:46.560 of the fellow, but it would have been. I was 106 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:49.519 only there the first two years. So he sent it 107 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:52.000 the yearbook picture, and I said, it's funny because my 108 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:54.920 hair is down, and I'm like, I wonder if my 109 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:57.120 either that or I could have been wearing a hat 110 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:58.040 or something and took it off. 111 00:05:58.079 --> 00:06:00.319 They wouldn't let me wear it. But my hair was 112 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:01.160 down and not spiked. 113 00:06:01.439 --> 00:06:04.040 Did you did you blow dry your hair back then? 114 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:08.279 I mean, like style it? No, that just as natural. 115 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:11.600 Why does that happen? Do you know how much we 116 00:06:11.680 --> 00:06:13.680 have to do for our hair, like in terms of 117 00:06:13.920 --> 00:06:15.240 and that's just natural hair. 118 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:16.439 No, that was just natural. 119 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:17.240 Unbelievable. 120 00:06:17.759 --> 00:06:19.079 Yeah, you'd have to hang upside. 121 00:06:19.439 --> 00:06:21.879 Sure, sure, sure, but that hair, Okay, you don't throw 122 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:23.079 that hair was just natural. 123 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:26.040 That's amazing. You got to throw that up on the socials. 124 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.480 Oh my god, it's funny. Okay, your face. 125 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:31.319 Hey, I know people around here. 126 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:34.839 I've never It's like, for context, I've never seen you 127 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:35.839 except for now. 128 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:38.680 I've never seen any older pictures. 129 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:42.319 There's some in the hallways here at KFI, but you 130 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:43.360 look exactly the same. 131 00:06:43.720 --> 00:06:46.240 There's there's no no I had hair when I came 132 00:06:46.279 --> 00:06:49.519 to KFI, but I took it off not long after. 133 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:52.160 But the pictures that I've seen, all the stuff you see, 134 00:06:52.240 --> 00:06:53.920 so I've never seen that before. 135 00:06:53.959 --> 00:06:54.920 So it's shocking. 136 00:06:55.720 --> 00:06:58.439 It's literally it's like the heat when you go outside 137 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:00.360 after being into ac it takes your brother. 138 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:00.920 Uh. 139 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:04.720 Your response was just like what I thought you were 140 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:07.120 going to cuss? And what that have happened? 141 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:12.480 Okay, speaking of cussing, that brings us to our continued 142 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:16.079 conversation in swamp watch swamp watch? 143 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:18.160 All right, where were we? Oh my god? 144 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:21.680 Well, let's let's we're we're what four days move down 145 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:23.360 to four days until the debate. 146 00:07:23.800 --> 00:07:26.839 Yes, so it's coming up on the tenth. Uh, and 147 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:29.519 you know things are heating up. They went ahead and 148 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:32.759 agreed to the everybody agreed with everything they're going to 149 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:38.879 do the debate. It's not just uh Trump and Harris though. 150 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:40.560 When you break this stuff down, is to have a 151 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:45.360 lot at stake. ABC News has as well. I mean, 152 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.439 it's a big deal in every it's hard to do 153 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:51.160 these things without getting nailed. It's hard to moderate without 154 00:07:51.199 --> 00:07:54.639 getting nailed, and to be as unbiased as possible to 155 00:07:54.680 --> 00:07:55.800 try and keep control. 156 00:07:56.040 --> 00:08:01.519 It's almost a losing situation as well. 157 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:05.639 It's well right, it depends on you're right it is 158 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.600 it could be a losing situation, of course. Others say 159 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:13.439 this is a great opportunity for ABC. And you know, 160 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:15.720 the pressure was on for CNN when they did the debate. 161 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.120 It's the same rules from June to now. 162 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:19.480 And I think they did a nice job. 163 00:08:19.560 --> 00:08:20.839 Well yeah, but there's plenty. 164 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.480 Of people who said that CNN they didn't fact check, 165 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:28.000 they didn't interrupt enough, they just let them go. And 166 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:33.759 and on one hand, that made it for more palatable 167 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:35.639 viewing in that there wasn't the. 168 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:38.879 But is it the moderator's job per se to fact 169 00:08:38.960 --> 00:08:41.399 check all of that, or is it the opponent's job 170 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:45.759 it's there debating. They should be able to call each 171 00:08:45.799 --> 00:08:50.679 other out if they do a fact check at the end, 172 00:08:50.720 --> 00:08:51.399 I think that's great. 173 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:56.080 It well and then post in their analysis shows right, they. 174 00:08:56.039 --> 00:08:57.159 Always have a fact checker. 175 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:00.559 I shouldn't say always, but there is a fact checker 176 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:03.759 usually or all the publications anyway, how many times did 177 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:06.039 Trump say misinformation? 178 00:09:06.279 --> 00:09:09.279 How many times did Harris say so we. 179 00:09:09.200 --> 00:09:12.919 Can expect that ABC sees this as a huge responsibility. 180 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:18.080 The moderators are David Muir and Lindsay Davis. They say 181 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:22.639 that they will be there quote to facilitate, so it's 182 00:09:22.720 --> 00:09:24.960 less of that, you know, fact checking, in more to 183 00:09:25.159 --> 00:09:26.679 just make sure everyone minds. 184 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:29.159 Their p's and q's. Yeah, that's how I read that. 185 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:32.360 I think that's hard. Fact checking is hard to do 186 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.799 if because it's almost. 187 00:09:37.320 --> 00:09:39.159 Like, well, so much information. 188 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.519 Because I when I watch these, I'm always watching it 189 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:42.200 from the newsroom. 190 00:09:42.399 --> 00:09:44.320 I'm always putting myself. 191 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:46.519 In that position, you know, if I ever had the 192 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:50.360 opportunity to sit there and to be on that stage. 193 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:53.279 There's so much information, and again. 194 00:09:53.080 --> 00:09:55.360 It's so much easier to be on your couch and 195 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:57.200 to be able to call people out than it is 196 00:09:57.240 --> 00:09:58.360 if you're there in person. 197 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:00.279 Again, this is their job. This is their job as 198 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:01.759 journalists to be up there. 199 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:04.879 But when so much information and everyone it's all happening, 200 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:08.159 you know, live, it's it's it's one of the challenges. 201 00:10:09.440 --> 00:10:12.639 Yeah, I just think that it's their battle and they 202 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:14.480 got to catch each other on it and then the 203 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:18.279 news station afterwards, because what if you catch one on 204 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.519 one side and miss the other on the other side, 205 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.720 It's you end up being a referee for a fight 206 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:26.919 that is really theirs, and they need to be able 207 00:10:26.919 --> 00:10:30.440 to stand their ground, not only on memorizing their own points, 208 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:33.399 but being able. That's a debate is being able to 209 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:38.000 go listen, you just made this claim and that's not true. 210 00:10:38.320 --> 00:10:41.519 One of my favorite features on social media now is 211 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:44.440 when you can make an addendum to something. You can 212 00:10:44.480 --> 00:10:48.639 go on and say, here's the the here's multiple articles 213 00:10:48.879 --> 00:10:52.159 that refute this statement or that said this was ai 214 00:10:52.600 --> 00:10:55.840 or said I love when you can attach that to 215 00:10:55.960 --> 00:11:00.440 something that makes that's you know, uh, makes it fair. 216 00:11:00.720 --> 00:11:03.200 But during a match like this, where you've got two 217 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:05.360 people going at it, it's on them to call you 218 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:06.360 out each other out. 219 00:11:07.120 --> 00:11:10.039 An estimated just over fifty one million people watch Biden 220 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:12.919 and Trump in June. That was before many people were 221 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:14.399 truly tuned into the election. 222 00:11:14.639 --> 00:11:16.039 Oh this is going to be bigger. 223 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.440 Than Yeah, this is going to be well super Bowl. 224 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:20.639 Nothing really lives up to the super Bowl. The NFL 225 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:22.919 is the most highly watched thing that we can put 226 00:11:22.919 --> 00:11:24.039 on television these days. 227 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:27.159 So if you could dump gatorade on one of them, 228 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:30.879 that'd be awesome. He's like, yeah, just dune on both 229 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:36.519 of them. One gets blue, one gets red, and just whoa, Okay, 230 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:36.960 maybe not. 231 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.159 I'm just trying to add a little sex appeal to. 232 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:41.240 The I'm just I'm visualizing Trump's hair. 233 00:11:42.039 --> 00:11:43.559 Oh my god, it would move. 234 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:48.679 Oh but man, that that red would just give him 235 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:52.120 a little extra rosiness. I'm tired of them referring to 236 00:11:52.360 --> 00:11:54.960 Kamala as a person of color and not referring to 237 00:11:55.039 --> 00:11:56.159 him as a person of color. 238 00:11:56.679 --> 00:12:02.960 Orange is a color touche. Boom tip your waitresses, everybody. 239 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:03.840 He's here all week. 240 00:12:03.919 --> 00:12:05.919 Yeah, more to come the wee folks. 241 00:12:06.279 --> 00:12:07.679 You can be glad, I. 242 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:10.320 Know, sliding slowly into the weekend. 243 00:12:10.759 --> 00:12:15.240 So some twists and turns in the Hunter bidened trial 244 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:21.159 and or pre trial or pre pre trial. 245 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:22.639 The trial that never was there. 246 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:26.399 You go and it was so eloquent the way our 247 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:30.759 very own Wayne Resnick, as a twenty eight year veteran 248 00:12:31.159 --> 00:12:36.559 of the Federal Probation Program Department. He did such a 249 00:12:36.600 --> 00:12:39.440 great job we thought we'll invite him on. So Wayne, 250 00:12:39.480 --> 00:12:40.200 how are you, sir? 251 00:12:40.759 --> 00:12:41.080 Hello? 252 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:44.480 Thank you, you are too kind. And of course, Marla, 253 00:12:44.639 --> 00:12:46.679 welcome to the KFI family. I haven't had a chance 254 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:48.639 to meet you before. I know, very nice to meet too, 255 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:50.440 and you're quite awesome. 256 00:12:50.840 --> 00:12:54.360 Oh gosh, thanks Wayne, I love listening to you, and 257 00:12:54.639 --> 00:12:55.519 no kidding this morning. 258 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:56.320 I'm getting ready. 259 00:12:56.399 --> 00:12:59.639 And when you broke it down with Bill and you know, 260 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:01.600 of course we covered it yesterday with our own reporter 261 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:04.679 at Fox eleven who was there for the Hunter Biden thing. 262 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:05.519 Uh. 263 00:13:06.480 --> 00:13:08.720 You you're just a master. I felt like I was 264 00:13:08.759 --> 00:13:09.799 in school and you. 265 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.000 May all make sense. Thank you very much. All right, 266 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:14.759 well you want to get into it, let's get into it, 267 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:15.320 all right. 268 00:13:15.399 --> 00:13:17.919 So you said, Neil, you said like twists and turns 269 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:20.799 you referred to, and this has been a case with 270 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:25.840 some crazy m Night Chamalan level twists and turn in fact, 271 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:29.440 maybe even twisty or because his Chamalan's twisted turns you 272 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:32.519 can kind of see coming now and the first one 273 00:13:32.720 --> 00:13:36.200 was a long time ago, and you'll remember he has 274 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:39.759 a gun case. He has the tax case, and a 275 00:13:39.799 --> 00:13:43.279 long time ago they reached a deal Hunter Biden and 276 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:46.519 the special prosecutor to wrap up both of those cases 277 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:48.879 in a deal, and a lot of people said the 278 00:13:48.960 --> 00:13:50.240 deal was too lenient. 279 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:54.279 And the judge in the gun. 280 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:57.240 Case, who was hearing the whole thing, said, Hey, I've 281 00:13:57.240 --> 00:14:01.879 got some questions that no judge judge ever really asks. 282 00:14:01.679 --> 00:14:02.960 But I want to ask him. 283 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:05.279 And it has to do with whether or not he 284 00:14:05.320 --> 00:14:08.399 can be charged in the future with certain other things, 285 00:14:08.639 --> 00:14:12.240 or whether this plea agreement makes him immune. And there 286 00:14:12.320 --> 00:14:15.559 was a disagreement between Hunter Biden's team and the prosecutors 287 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:19.480 about whether it did make him immune from future tax charges, 288 00:14:19.600 --> 00:14:23.720 and the whole thing blew up. Now we fast forward 289 00:14:24.279 --> 00:14:28.120 to just yesterday, they're getting ready for trial. All this 290 00:14:28.279 --> 00:14:30.559 time in the tax case, Hunter Biden has been saying 291 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:32.200 I'm not guilty, We're gonna go to trial. 292 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:34.679 They actually have a jury pool. 293 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:39.279 And Hunter Biden's team walks into court and says, surprise, everybody, 294 00:14:40.039 --> 00:14:45.320 I want to plead guilty. Now I have seen plenty 295 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:51.120 of people plead guilty at the jury selection stage, because 296 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:56.960 what happens is it's all abstract to a defendant until 297 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.720 you see the faces of the people who may judge you. 298 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:03.240 And it is not uncommon at that point. 299 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:05.159 For a defendant to say, oh my gosh, I don't 300 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:05.960 want to go through this. 301 00:15:06.039 --> 00:15:07.240 I just want to plead guilty. 302 00:15:07.720 --> 00:15:12.080 But Hunter Biden's surprise was a little different because he 303 00:15:12.120 --> 00:15:15.759 wanted to plead guilty under this case called Alfred An 304 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:20.519 Alford plea is a plea where you're convicted, but you 305 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:23.240 affirmatively maintain that you're. 306 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:27.279 Innocent, sort of the best of both worlds. For a defendant. 307 00:15:28.039 --> 00:15:30.960 It is because it usually allows them to dispose of 308 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:35.200 a case. Usually it's because there's some kind of a 309 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:38.799 deal with the prosecutors to get a break on sentencing 310 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:41.480 or to plead to a lesser charge. And yet, as 311 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:44.159 you point out, Marla, the person is able to walk 312 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.519 around and say, hey, I am innocent. I just took 313 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:48.039 this deal because I didn't. 314 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:48.279 Want to deal. 315 00:15:48.360 --> 00:15:55.240 I didn't want to go through that. And the prosecutors 316 00:15:55.519 --> 00:15:56.639 went crazy. 317 00:15:57.200 --> 00:15:59.360 They did not like this in one bit because they 318 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:02.879 have they've been preparing for this day. Jerry selection was 319 00:16:02.919 --> 00:16:05.480 to start yesterday. All of their hard work sort of 320 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:05.840 all for. 321 00:16:05.919 --> 00:16:09.200 Not yes, And and look, I don't know these this 322 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:13.039 particular team of prosecutors, but I've known a lot of prosecutors, 323 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:15.279 and I can tell you as a general rule, there 324 00:16:15.320 --> 00:16:18.200 is a type of prosecutor that if you make them 325 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.559 prepare for trial, and you get that far into the process, 326 00:16:21.879 --> 00:16:24.639 and then you deny them the opportunity to show what 327 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:27.679 a good boy they were with all of their homework, 328 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:31.960 they are this is the legal term, but hurt to 329 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:36.279 the extreme. Wow, So they were. They were upset. They 330 00:16:36.360 --> 00:16:40.399 wanted to Judge Scargy to not allow Hunter Biden to 331 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:44.399 even do it. So that was your next big Remember 332 00:16:44.480 --> 00:16:46.720 you had the kaboom all that time ago when the 333 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:47.799 p deal blew up. 334 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:49.039 Get a kaboom. 335 00:16:48.720 --> 00:16:51.799 Yesterday, Wayne, Who would have allowed that that Alfred plea? 336 00:16:52.159 --> 00:16:54.279 Who who with a judge would have to. 337 00:16:55.399 --> 00:16:56.919 Both sides have to agree, right? 338 00:16:57.480 --> 00:16:58.120 No? 339 00:16:58.120 --> 00:17:01.200 No, okay, No, the process com cuter doesn't have the 340 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:04.880 legal power to stop it. They can try to persuade 341 00:17:04.960 --> 00:17:09.079 the judge who could decline to take such a plea, 342 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:14.359 but the prosecutor can't actually make it stop. But they 343 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:16.440 wanted him to not accept it, or to not even 344 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:20.119 allow it. To be pursued and scarzy. The things that 345 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:22.519 he said were pretty right on. He said, well, there 346 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:24.640 might be a way to do it if he's willing 347 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:29.880 to agree to enough facts in the record, even though 348 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:32.039 he then says I'm not I don't think I'm guilty. 349 00:17:32.319 --> 00:17:34.720 That somebody else could look at the facts that he's 350 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:37.640 agreed to and say, well, those facts make you guilty, 351 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:41.640 then it might be okay. He said, go file something 352 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:44.960 and uh, and then I'll read it and then I'll decide. 353 00:17:45.000 --> 00:17:50.880 And then apparently Hunter Biden doesn't want a trial so 354 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:54.759 much that when it looked like there was even a 355 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:57.680 possibility he would not be allowed to plead under this 356 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:01.599 Alford system, he went in and said, ah, forget it. 357 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:05.000 Let's just plead. Let's just plead regular. It's called an 358 00:18:05.000 --> 00:18:08.160 open plea. He pleads to all nine counts. There's no 359 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:12.039 agreement about anything. He cannot expect any kind of leniency 360 00:18:12.079 --> 00:18:15.519 from the government, he cannot expect any kind of leniency 361 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.240 from the judge. He will have to take the lumps, 362 00:18:18.960 --> 00:18:19.920 whatever they are. 363 00:18:20.000 --> 00:18:22.720 So that strategy is basically, I don't want to go 364 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:23.200 to trial. 365 00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:26.240 That strategy is I don't want to go to trial. 366 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:30.920 So bad that I am now willing to plead guilty 367 00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:35.839 without any hope of any deal and literally throw myself 368 00:18:35.839 --> 00:18:38.319 at the mercy of the government with their recommendations and 369 00:18:38.359 --> 00:18:43.039 the judge who was appointed by Donald Trump his decisions 370 00:18:43.039 --> 00:18:44.640 about what should happen to me. 371 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:46.240 And it's because of all the. 372 00:18:46.839 --> 00:18:50.480 Salacious personal things that would come out at a trial, 373 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:54.519 because one of the charges that has to do with 374 00:18:54.599 --> 00:18:59.720 tax evasion has to do with taking deductions for things 375 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:03.519 that were actually non deductible, like and I'm not trying 376 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.279 to pile on Hunter Biden. I actually feel kind of 377 00:19:06.319 --> 00:19:08.559 bad for Hunter Biden, and I'll tell you why in 378 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.079 a second, because there's a fact that hasn't really come 379 00:19:11.079 --> 00:19:16.160 out that to me looking at it legally changes how 380 00:19:16.200 --> 00:19:18.559 mad I am at him for not paying his taxes. 381 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:22.799 But for one year, the year twenty eighteen, that tax year, 382 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.480 he took a bunch of deductions, when in fact, he 383 00:19:25.640 --> 00:19:29.680 spent one hundred thousand and three hundred and thirty dollars 384 00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:34.519 on adult entertainment and three hundred and eighty three thousand 385 00:19:34.759 --> 00:19:40.599 plus in payments to various women. And that's right from 386 00:19:40.640 --> 00:19:44.200 the indictment. So you know, he was a busy fellow 387 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:47.160 in ways that he really at this point doesn't want 388 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:49.960 to put his family through, doesn't want to embarrass them, 389 00:19:50.359 --> 00:19:54.359 and probably himself is tired of being embarrassed by these things. 390 00:19:54.079 --> 00:19:57.440 So that's how badly he didn't want to go to trial, 391 00:19:57.480 --> 00:19:59.960 whether or not he did feel sincerely that he had 392 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:02.440 strong legal case in his defense. 393 00:20:02.640 --> 00:20:03.240 Now here's the. 394 00:20:03.200 --> 00:20:06.799 Thing that to me changes the complexion of the case 395 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:12.000 a little bit. These problems with his taxes are generally 396 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:16.039 confined to the second half of the twenty tens, twenty 397 00:20:16.119 --> 00:20:21.839 sixteen through twenty twenty, well before that, before the drugs 398 00:20:21.839 --> 00:20:24.920 in his life went off the rails. This is what 399 00:20:25.039 --> 00:20:28.359 he did in order to make sure that he did 400 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:32.920 pay his taxes properly. He set up a company, the 401 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:36.839