WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.160 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:22.600 --> 00:00:29.519 When you look on the sky, do you feel the poll? 3 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:35.840 The question why the stories told. 4 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:42.759 And left behind in shadows where the truth we find? 5 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:50.799 They built their tails on grafts and lives on theories. 6 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:53.799 They stay there, designed. 7 00:00:54.920 --> 00:01:02.399 Put down here on this solid ground the answer screen. 8 00:01:02.719 --> 00:01:10.760 They're all around, rise and break through all the lies. 9 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:17.159 The flat Files oncagees REEP. 10 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:22.000 Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time 11 00:01:22.040 --> 00:01:26.239 for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm 12 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:28.680 your host is always George Hobbs. I hope everybody had 13 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:31.640 a great week. We have a very special guest standing 14 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:33.359 via his names Brian, who will be with us in 15 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:35.920 just a moment. Before we do, just a couple of 16 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:39.120 quick reminders, please do stop by the website. It's the 17 00:01:39.359 --> 00:01:43.799 flat Earthfiles dot com. Check out our back catalog of podcast, 18 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:48.120 our forum, and of course every episode now is released 19 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:50.840 in the form of a blog post which has all 20 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:55.480 the supporting documents in it. That is the flat Earthfiles 21 00:01:55.519 --> 00:01:59.239 dot com. If you would like to join the show, 22 00:01:59.480 --> 00:02:03.159 like Brian is tonight, please drop us a line. It 23 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:08.080 is fe filesguest at gmail dot com. Again, it is 24 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:13.000 fe files guest at gmail dot com. We still have 25 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:15.960 to schedule. I think I looked at it was close 26 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:18.719 to ten more weeks, so be on the lookout. Later 27 00:02:18.759 --> 00:02:22.680 this week, we're going to send out more invitations. Check 28 00:02:22.719 --> 00:02:25.560 your spam folder two. A lot of the emails that 29 00:02:25.639 --> 00:02:27.719 get sent to me for some reason, they go to 30 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.960 the spam file and certainly likewise, so do check that 31 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:34.120 spam file later on this week. Without any further ado, 32 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.719 let's get to our special guest. His name is Brian. 33 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:41.759 He is joining us from the great state of Arizona. Brian, 34 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:42.879 how are you doing this evening? 35 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:44.879 I'm doing great, George, how are you. 36 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:49.400 Doing doing wonderful? Obviously, we're recording this on Tuesday night, 37 00:02:49.479 --> 00:02:53.280 October the eighth, so you know, before we pressed record, 38 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:55.599 we were talking a little bit about, you know, what's 39 00:02:55.639 --> 00:02:58.400 going on with the hurricane. Obviously we'll have a little 40 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:02.319 more clarity when this actually goes live on Sunday. So 41 00:03:02.360 --> 00:03:04.800 if people are wondering why we're not addressing it, well, 42 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.719 it's because we're recording it before it even happens. So Brian, 43 00:03:08.120 --> 00:03:10.639 please do take some time and introduce yourself to the audience. 44 00:03:11.800 --> 00:03:15.199 Great George before I go into my introduction. I just 45 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:19.240 want to give you, George some you know, a lot 46 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:22.439 of accolades. You're you're the one that I You're my 47 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:27.400 go to guy. And you know, if any one of 48 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:31.280 you out there are listening to this podcast for the 49 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:34.360 first time, or you have only listened to this podcast, 50 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:39.039 also go into George's other the Fact Hunner. It's a 51 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:42.120 it's a wealth of knowledge and I've been loving it 52 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:44.240 the last year and a half two years. 53 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:46.879 Thanks for that, Brian, and I just want to inject 54 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:49.759 one more thing. If you are just tuning into this podcast, 55 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:52.479 after you're done listening to this, please do go back 56 00:03:52.520 --> 00:03:54.639 to the first episode. I think it's important, especially if 57 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.360 you're new to Flat Earth. Why the Lie and then 58 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:57.319 work your way forward. 59 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:06.120 Great, Okay, so my introduction. I'm sixty sixty four years old. 60 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:09.319 I'm going to be sixty five in a month, and 61 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:14.560 I've been a Christian since around nine years of age. 62 00:04:15.240 --> 00:04:21.759 I'm married to a wonderful woman. She's just really really great, 63 00:04:21.800 --> 00:04:26.680 beautiful and wonderful for thirty one years and we're still 64 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:31.879 going strong, just like we got married last year. And 65 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:37.480 I have three sisters and one brother. One of my 66 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:43.920 sisters passed from cancer nineteen ninety five. My parents, my dad, 67 00:04:44.360 --> 00:04:50.040 he's was a World War Two veteran, and he passed 68 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:54.439 twenty eleven July fourth, twenty eleven, and my mom will 69 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:59.240 be ninety four in January, so I'm still mom with us, 70 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:05.959 which is great. And we grew up in southern California. 71 00:05:06.000 --> 00:05:08.399 Your wife and I met in southern California and got 72 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:13.800 married there. After getting married and after I got my 73 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:20.399 engineering degree, we decided to move to the Northwest and 74 00:05:20.480 --> 00:05:23.639 we land ended up in Portland, Oregon for most of 75 00:05:23.720 --> 00:05:28.759 the time up there up until around twenty seventeen, then 76 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:33.399 came back here to Phoenix to help parents out. When 77 00:05:33.439 --> 00:05:40.480 I was in high school, several times I was tested 78 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:44.800 as to be a test had my IQ tested, and 79 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.279 they wanted to test to see if I was a genius. 80 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:53.639 My dad, of course, he was a genius. As I 81 00:05:53.720 --> 00:05:57.439 would say, dozens, maybe even hundreds of people attested to 82 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:02.160 people who really, you know, a lot smarter than I am, 83 00:06:02.680 --> 00:06:05.439 went and said, your dad's the smartest guy I've ever 84 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:10.319 talked to in my lifetime. So he had a photographic mind. 85 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:14.319 I don't. But anyways, in school, they kept on determining 86 00:06:14.360 --> 00:06:18.439 over and over, they said, you're just below genius. So 87 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:21.079 my wife and I have this little inside joke when 88 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:24.480 we're talking to people and people sort of you know, 89 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:26.839 debating me a little bit on things and anything. She 90 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:29.120 just looks at me and smiles and just says, JB 91 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:35.480 G for just below genius. Little inside oka. Anyways, I've 92 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:38.959 worked for twenty years in the grocery business, mostly produced, 93 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:46.040 some produce management. I got my bachelor's degree in telecommunications 94 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.120 engineering when I was forty years of age, and I 95 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:52.879 want to mention I graduated at the top of my class. 96 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:56.800 I'm not close to the top. I was the top 97 00:06:56.879 --> 00:07:00.639 person in when I graduated, And I just wanted to 98 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:04.800 mention that because a lot of people say that people 99 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:08.040 aren't too bright in this in this community. You see 100 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:10.480 a lot of this online and and I wanted I 101 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:13.600 want to attest it not only myself, but other people 102 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:17.680 friends that I have, that that are that are much 103 00:07:17.759 --> 00:07:20.959 more than I am, that are involved in this movement too. 104 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:23.439 They're they're they're they're seeing the truth for what it is. 105 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:29.680 So anyways, I worked after game my bachelor degree. 106 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:29.959 We moved. 107 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.959 When we moved to the Northwest, I've worked seventeen years 108 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:35.199 in the wireless industry, and hopefully George, we can get 109 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:37.199 a little bit of time to to talk about that 110 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:40.199 wireless industry and I can you know, expand on a 111 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:43.199 little bit because I hear a lot of partial truths 112 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.040 in that from people. And I don't think there's a 113 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:50.680 much fear from the wireless industry itself that we need 114 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:53.720 to worry about. It's more the other other other side, 115 00:07:53.800 --> 00:07:57.519 the other players that are tapping into that that technology. 116 00:07:59.279 --> 00:08:02.120 I worked five years as an as an art of engineer, 117 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:05.000 which is radio frequency engineer, and twelve years as a 118 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:11.399 field engineer. And just so people know too, I've been 119 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:14.600 I've been doing this a lot of research for for years. 120 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:17.839 My dad started me when I was a teenager and 121 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:21.800 used to go to to libraries. A lot of people 122 00:08:21.839 --> 00:08:24.279 don't probably aren't wear this, but you know, you go libraries, 123 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:27.920 you get you know, books, encyclopedias and magazines and newspapers. 124 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:33.720 There's that microfish that used to get to the motions 125 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:35.879 so you could get new get you know, you could 126 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:38.840 look up newspapers and newspaper events. Yes, so my dad, 127 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:42.320 my dad always tried to keep me to to the 128 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:45.320 back pages or whatever was on the back pages of 129 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:49.759 almost all the sections. He says, there you'll find the 130 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.399 most truthful uh bis of information. So he says, skip, 131 00:08:54.519 --> 00:08:56.559 skip the rest and go to the back. And that's 132 00:08:56.600 --> 00:08:59.519 what I would do. And it's amazing all the things 133 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:02.399 that they they've been telling us for years that have 134 00:09:02.519 --> 00:09:08.759 been going on, including even experimentation on people MK ultra, 135 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:13.120 all that has been in these they've been telling us 136 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:16.799 about it. So I've been at this for a long time. 137 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:21.120 I've been retired since since I was fifty seven years 138 00:09:21.120 --> 00:09:24.840 of age, so that was around that twenty seventeen period 139 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:26.879 of time. And I've been doing a complete remodel. I 140 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:30.240 learned that from my dad too. He knew construction before 141 00:09:30.360 --> 00:09:34.120 he had done his other bit of his business, and 142 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.879 so I've learned all aspects of building from the ground up. 143 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:43.320 And so I've been a complete remodel of our inside 144 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.799 and out. And I'm still working on just odds and ends. 145 00:09:45.879 --> 00:09:50.519 Right now. I've written I'm on my third book. I've 146 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.519 written two books. One was back when I was in 147 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:55.559 the grocery business, and it's called picking Pizazi Produce. You 148 00:09:55.600 --> 00:10:01.600 won't find it anywhere. It's just something copied and self 149 00:10:01.639 --> 00:10:03.639 published and gave out to a lot of friends and 150 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:08.559 family way back. I have a second one called Three 151 00:10:09.240 --> 00:10:12.480 three Lines and a Zebra, it self published. It's on Amazon. 152 00:10:13.600 --> 00:10:16.240 I have currently writing a third book right now. It's 153 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.720 called A Man Without a Home. And for people who 154 00:10:19.759 --> 00:10:23.200 don't know anything about writing, I mean, there's a lot 155 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.559 of people that try writing books, and I believe it's 156 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:27.679 only that you might want to correct me if I'm 157 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:29.919 wrong Church, but I think it's like three point five 158 00:10:29.960 --> 00:10:34.720 percent of people who actually start completed book. So it's 159 00:10:34.759 --> 00:10:36.440 about wrong percentage. 160 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:39.519 Is it's tough because most people go into it with 161 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:42.639 an idea and they get frustrated and they hit a block, 162 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:45.440 and it's very easy to just put aside and say, 163 00:10:45.960 --> 00:10:47.960 you know, let me do something to get the creative 164 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:50.200 juices flow and I'll get back to it. And it's 165 00:10:50.200 --> 00:10:53.480 been something that's been I've been dealing with personally for 166 00:10:53.559 --> 00:10:56.200 two years. I keep saying I'm almost done, and then 167 00:10:56.240 --> 00:10:58.559 you make one edit. You know, people don't realize if 168 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:00.679 you're three hundred pages into a book, you make one edit. 169 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:02.440 Sometimes that has a ripple effect. You have to go 170 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:04.840 back and make other make other edits to it. 171 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.919 It It does and and and the thing that I've 172 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:12.080 learned too, because I get a lot of I sort 173 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:17.519 of write along that ludlum clancy type style. Uh. And 174 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:20.600 I like Stephen King. I like his the way he 175 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:23.240 brings stories together. I don't necessarily agree with all of 176 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.759 his content, you know, being a Christian, it's a lot 177 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:29.080 of it goes against what I personally believe. But his 178 00:11:29.240 --> 00:11:32.080 writing style is really really great, the way he brings 179 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:36.480 characters together. And I keep a character character pages. Uh 180 00:11:36.720 --> 00:11:40.440 And I sometimes I can let that book out the 181 00:11:41.399 --> 00:11:44.440 three lines in a zebra I've got oh gosh, I 182 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:49.480 probably have ten pages on just characters. So it's it's 183 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:51.840 like it's like trying to keep track of of a 184 00:11:51.879 --> 00:11:54.120 small family when you're when in the middle of writing 185 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:56.039 a book. And and like you said, there there is 186 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.480 a lot of ripple effects, trying to keep it so 187 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:02.639 that it's the story is true to itself without without 188 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:06.879 having any deviations or anything that's incorrect within the book itself. 189 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.120 One last thing for you know, I do when you live. 190 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:12.559 When you live as long as I have, you have 191 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:17.960 a lot of interest. So I'd love tennis, golf, photography, hiking, 192 00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:23.559 four willing woodworking, uh, exercise. I stay in pretty good, 193 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:27.159 pretty good shape, only take an occasional asproen and my age. 194 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:30.440 So I try to do all of that. So so 195 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:37.799 that's that's pretty much it with my intro. George, I, oh, 196 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:40.480 you know what, I did have one other thing to 197 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:44.120 mention with the intro, and that's something that I wrote 198 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:47.240 about before that sort of made it real difficult in 199 00:12:47.320 --> 00:12:50.919 coming to flat Earth. My best friend growing up Scott, 200 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:55.600 his his hisun his great his distant uncle. It was 201 00:12:55.720 --> 00:13:01.519 great uncle is Neil Armstrong, really yes, And so I 202 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:04.919 would go work virtually every week when i'd go over, 203 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:08.559 he'd have another something NASA in his in his room. 204 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:12.440 His dad was a uh he worked for North American 205 00:13:12.559 --> 00:13:16.879 rock Well and was he would he was the lead 206 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:22.200 rocket engineering uh for for North American rock Well. So 207 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:26.200 between the two of them I had he had. You know, 208 00:13:26.440 --> 00:13:29.600 it filled my head too with all this, like you know, 209 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:32.559 NASA is real, going to the Moon's roal, all this, 210 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:36.799 and it was it was a very big, big, big 211 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:41.399 big ball so to speak to to to sort of 212 00:13:41.480 --> 00:13:44.519 let go of and uh, you know coming over into 213 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:51.399 the flatter So but yeah, it was amazing. I mean 214 00:13:51.559 --> 00:13:56.440 he had he had pictures, he had the latest models 215 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:59.559 of whatever they're working on. He had all there. He 216 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.600 had dozens of photos that were signed by all the 217 00:14:02.639 --> 00:14:05.840 different astronauts during the time Neil was there, all up 218 00:14:05.840 --> 00:14:08.799 over his wall. So you know, it's really hard to 219 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:13.720 it was a hard thing to let go at. 220 00:14:14.240 --> 00:14:19.600 Oh absolutely, and even subconsciously, I think people do kind 221 00:14:19.639 --> 00:14:22.720 of realize how life changing it can be. So it's 222 00:14:23.120 --> 00:14:25.960 it's easier to ridicule and mock than it is to, 223 00:14:26.519 --> 00:14:28.519 you know, take take the red pill. As they say, 224 00:14:29.360 --> 00:14:32.679 I'll tell you what they talk about. Pardon me. If 225 00:14:32.679 --> 00:14:36.039 you could have a conversation and outside the obvious answers 226 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:39.720 family members, you know, Jesus, if that was possible that 227 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:42.120 we say, who could you have a conversation with? You know, 228 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:45.159 I will tell you that, how interesting would it be 229 00:14:45.200 --> 00:14:48.399 if you were able to sit down with Neil Armstrong, 230 00:14:48.919 --> 00:14:52.720 let's say, nineteen ninety five, ninety six, doors closed, no CIA, 231 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:56.559 no ear peer, no ear pieces, and just to be 232 00:14:56.600 --> 00:14:59.240 able to get honest conversation from him. Because I know 233 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.679 I've mentioned this before, but going back in hindsight, being 234 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:07.279 twenty twenty, you can see the weight of the world, literally, 235 00:15:07.399 --> 00:15:10.000 the weight of the world on his shoulders during those interviews. 236 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:13.919 Can't oh sure, and all that was true about you know, 237 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:16.600 his his his heavy drinking and stuff like that, and 238 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:20.279 and and you know, the handful of times that I 239 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:25.039 knew that he came to visit Scott with his with 240 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:30.200 Scott's dad, I would usually be over there, but I 241 00:15:30.360 --> 00:15:32.360 know that his mom sort of dismissed us and let 242 00:15:32.480 --> 00:15:35.320 us had us, had the kids from the neighborhood leave 243 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.559 before instead of you know, you would think that he 244 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.399 would say encourage or say, you know, hey, hey, what 245 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:44.159 one of the group of kids come around and I'll 246 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.600 do you know, sign photographs and this and the other. 247 00:15:47.080 --> 00:15:52.120 None of that. We had to leave. It was like 248 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.279 about a half an hour before their time of arrival. 249 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:57.919 Wow, that is interesting. 250 00:15:57.960 --> 00:16:00.840 So so it sort of tells you little something that 251 00:16:01.519 --> 00:16:04.639 there's something something going on there, because you you know, 252 00:16:04.720 --> 00:16:07.000 when I look back on that, I go and think, gosh, 253 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.840 if I was in his shoes, I would have told Scott, hey, 254 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:13.000 why don't you invite you know, invite twenty thirty of 255 00:16:13.080 --> 00:16:16.320 your friends from that from your neighborhood, and I'll do 256 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:18.840 a little presentation and sign sign things for them. 257 00:16:19.720 --> 00:16:21.559 I do want to move forward with this line of questioning, 258 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:24.240 but I better ask two questions before we get too 259 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:26.480 much further. As going back to your intro, you said 260 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:28.240 you've been married for did you say thirty six years? 261 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:29.840 Thirty one? 262 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:35.039 Thirty one years? So how is your wife? Basically the 263 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:40.679 same line of thinking as far as these conspiracies quote unquote, No, 264 00:16:40.879 --> 00:16:41.399 she isn't. 265 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:45.840 And that's you know. She she and her best friend 266 00:16:46.200 --> 00:16:50.440 they sort of like to stay in their mode to 267 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:57.639 to get along with everyone. And she, my wife knows 268 00:16:57.720 --> 00:17:00.600 how I am. She gives me a whole lot of 269 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:04.240 a lot of leeway. But uh, but now she she 270 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:08.200 I think she knows because she's heard me talk to 271 00:17:08.279 --> 00:17:11.920 several people about about things, and she knows about my 272 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:14.200 background or that you know, I have a you know 273 00:17:14.880 --> 00:17:17.319 that I'm that I'm not a not a toll moron. 274 00:17:18.160 --> 00:17:22.279 That that she she she trusts what what I'm what 275 00:17:22.359 --> 00:17:24.759 I'm saying, And I can see her looking at me, 276 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:27.240 and I'll give these real good examples of a couple. 277 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:29.240 I'd like to actually give a couple, a couple of 278 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:32.240 simple examples that I haven't heard people talk about that 279 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:35.599 maybe can help others that are on the fence. But 280 00:17:37.519 --> 00:17:39.759 she she's she looks at me and she says, you 281 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:43.400 know what, I really trust what you're doing. But she 282 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:46.039 seemed to be more accepting of me when I was 283 00:17:46.160 --> 00:17:49.720 in that realm of going through you know, like with 284 00:17:50.200 --> 00:17:53.079 George George Norry coast, the coast, uh big you know, 285 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:58.119 big bigfoot my sauses. I accepted that realm. It was 286 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:01.480 so much easier for her, for she except, and much 287 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:04.839 easier for my siblings to talk to me as opposed 288 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.640 to flat Earth. And then and then some of the 289 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:09.920 other things that I've been getting into with all this 290 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:13.319 all our tainted history, which I'd like to get into 291 00:18:13.400 --> 00:18:14.440 down down the road too. 292 00:18:14.680 --> 00:18:18.119 Yeah, for sure. So interesting. And you had mentioned that 293 00:18:18.240 --> 00:18:20.680 you were in Portland for quite some time you moved 294 00:18:20.720 --> 00:18:23.680 in twenty seventeen. What were your thoughts during the summer 295 00:18:23.680 --> 00:18:26.880 of twenty twenty as you witnessed the events going in 296 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:28.640 the city you once lived in for so long. 297 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.839 Well, especially because you and I when I was there. 298 00:18:33.440 --> 00:18:38.720 One of my positions were my largest position as a 299 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:42.400 field engineer, or the market that I had. I had 300 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:44.559 different markets on the west, I had some out of 301 00:18:44.599 --> 00:18:48.519 the coast at sometimes, but my largest one was downtown. 302 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.799 They kept me downtown because I did real well stat wise, 303 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:56.200 and they liked the way I improved that that part 304 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:58.839 of the market. So I was I was almost stuck 305 00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:01.200 there because you know, when you do well, bosses like 306 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:05.880 to keep you in a certain position. And so the 307 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:09.079 driving down there was really a lot of things have 308 00:19:09.200 --> 00:19:12.480 been changing even before that, you know, all that COVID 309 00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:15.720 stuff that went on, which which was horrible. People used 310 00:19:15.759 --> 00:19:18.880 to think of going downtown Portland as you know, they 311 00:19:19.000 --> 00:19:20.799 go down People would go down there with their with 312 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:23.480 their kids, with their little kids. It was always very 313 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:27.400 family oriented. There was always a lot of parking well 314 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:31.440 in the in the In about twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, 315 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:35.480 they started changing everything downtown to make it very difficult 316 00:19:35.480 --> 00:19:38.920 for people to even go down there. They would put 317 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:42.000 it was like one one lane for the cars. You 318 00:19:42.079 --> 00:19:45.240 know some of the roads have three four lanes, one 319 00:19:45.400 --> 00:19:49.519 lane for the cars, one for buses, and then the 320 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:54.799 other two would be for like bikes. They so they 321 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:58.400 eliminated the vehicle traffic. And it's this whole thing that 322 00:19:58.440 --> 00:20:01.880 they're trying to get people to take public transportation. They 323 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:05.480 don't improve the roadways, the freeways, and those are a 324 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:07.359 lot of the reasons why we thought we'd leave, in 325 00:20:07.440 --> 00:20:12.519 addition to helping our helping, you know, our elderly parents 326 00:20:12.559 --> 00:20:14.920 here in Arizona. But it was starting to get to 327 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:19.079 a point where it was very difficult to was it 328 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.200 was difficult to continue down down that road there in Portland. 329 00:20:22.960 --> 00:20:26.680 Yeah, And that's sad to hear because I know a 330 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:29.160 lot of people who grew up there in the seventies, 331 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:31.839 and we used to be considered like the jewel city, 332 00:20:32.720 --> 00:20:35.839 what's called the Rose City of the entire West Coast. 333 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:40.119 It was just a gem. And it's really sad to 334 00:20:40.200 --> 00:20:43.200 see once great city deteriorate so quickly. 335 00:20:43.839 --> 00:20:49.400 Mm. Yeah. And from friends that still live up there, 336 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:51.759 they said that they don't they just don't go. They 337 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:55.440 avoid downtown as much as possible now, which is opposite 338 00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:58.359 of how it used to be. You never used to 339 00:20:58.480 --> 00:21:01.680 think about it before you go down there. They'd have big, 340 00:21:01.920 --> 00:21:05.640 big festivals and celebrations, and you have that Saturday Market 341 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:09.119 which is Saturday and Sunday, things like that that people 342 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:11.960 just went to, I mean, just the majority of the 343 00:21:12.039 --> 00:21:14.799 people on the outskirts. And it's sort of sad that 344 00:21:15.480 --> 00:21:18.799 people have to think about going to downtown. And I 345 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:21.960 know Seattle's got that same way too from friends that 346 00:21:22.039 --> 00:21:24.640 I have living up there too, same exact thing too. 347 00:21:25.000 --> 00:21:31.559 It just spoiled a lot of things after that, the alls, 348 00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:35.000 riots and protesting, tearing down statues. 349 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:39.039 You know, Yeah, that's tough. That's tough for sure. Your 350 00:21:39.079 --> 00:21:43.079 road to the journey. First question, at what point in 351 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:46.039 your life did you start to realize what you were 352 00:21:46.119 --> 00:21:48.960 told and what you see are two different things. 353 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:52.400 Well, my dad had me doing that when I was 354 00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:55.200 a teenager, when I do all that research, and when 355 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:59.720 I was probably probably junior high high school, I was 356 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.519 doing all that research and he he, he literally told 357 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.559 me there were there were two worlds. He told me 358 00:22:06.640 --> 00:22:12.000 about about about the the Illuminati, the Freemasons, the I. 359 00:22:12.240 --> 00:22:15.200 I M, f uh, you can't can't can't trust the Fed. 360 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:17.680 The Fed's not uh you know fed, federalis there is 361 00:22:17.759 --> 00:22:21.000 not this, It is not not government the irsh and 362 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:23.480 be taxing us all these things. He told me that 363 00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:29.039 way back, you know, sixties and seventies, and so he was, 364 00:22:29.200 --> 00:22:31.440 he was, he was way ahead of his time, had 365 00:22:31.519 --> 00:22:33.599 me had me looking and he and he and he 366 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:35.839 always said that he said, he said, there's two worlds. 367 00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:39.079 There's one one world that the majority of people see 368 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:41.680 that is presented to him through the media and propaganda, 369 00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.160 and the other world that is that is actually actually 370 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.759 going on behind the scenes, that is controlled by by 371 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.200 people of money. And he mentioned that the Rockefellers and Bankers. 372 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:57.480 It was he always mentioned Rockefellers and Morgan's they're controlling 373 00:22:58.119 --> 00:22:58.880 behind the sands. 374 00:22:59.240 --> 00:23:02.079 That that's great. So that leads me to think, and 375 00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:05.079 I'm not saying you have this answer, but do you 376 00:23:05.160 --> 00:23:07.720 think he came because back then he didn't have the internet. 377 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.799 Obviously there were books, but those kind of books like 378 00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:13.200 Bill Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse, they were hard to find. 379 00:23:13.759 --> 00:23:15.960 They weren't putting out in front of the bookstores. You 380 00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:17.359 had to go back and find them. How do you 381 00:23:17.440 --> 00:23:19.799 think he came on that knowledge? Do you think it 382 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.880 was through what he saw in the military or was 383 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:23.720 it something after that? 384 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:28.240 Well, okay, give me give me a little bit of 385 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:32.279 his background, which which is what you're asking he okay, 386 00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:34.799 before he went in the military, he went in and 387 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:40.400 he he he did construction. That's where he learned construction. Afterwards, 388 00:23:41.119 --> 00:23:42.920 when when he when he was in the military, he 389 00:23:43.599 --> 00:23:45.119 h he was in there all four years. He was 390 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.440 front lines. He was he was working. Uh he worked 391 00:23:48.440 --> 00:23:52.319 those you know that big big artillery, those big guns 392 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.559 where you have to uh plug, plug your ears, jump, 393 00:23:56.759 --> 00:23:58.839 you know, so you don't break your knees and open 394 00:23:58.880 --> 00:24:01.119 your mouth so your teeth don't fall out. So he 395 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:05.200 had he did that. He wired communications, so he had 396 00:24:05.400 --> 00:24:08.799 uh he was he was up on polls, wiring for 397 00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:12.839 communications being shot at. And every person that he went 398 00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:17.119 into the service with died. So he he get he 399 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:19.160 got promotions. He saw a lot of death. 400 00:24:19.480 --> 00:24:20.240 He uh. 401 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:24.559