Speaker 1: There's no question in my mind that this intelligence community
Speaker 1: assessment that President Obama ordered be published, which contained a
Speaker 1: manufactured intelligence document, It's worse than even politicization of intelligence.
Speaker 1: It was manufactured intelligence that sought to achieve President Obama
Speaker 1: and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump's presidency
Speaker 1: and subverting the will of the American people. And that's
Speaker 1: really the point here that I think is most important, Maria,
Speaker 1: and you set it in your opening. Accountability is essential
Speaker 1: for the future of our country, for the American people
Speaker 1: to have any sense of trust in the integrity of
Speaker 1: our democratic republic. Accountability, action, prosecution, indictments for those who
Speaker 1: are responsible for trying to steal our democracy is essential
Speaker 1: for us to make sure that this never happens to
Speaker 1: our country again.
Speaker 2: You guys buying it, Yeah, me either. It's unfortunate that
Speaker 2: because I've been studying this stuff for years now, as
Speaker 2: you guys do as well, since you pay attention as
Speaker 2: much as I do, I'm sure we all know that
Speaker 2: this is what happened. We all know that Hillary Clinton
Speaker 2: was behind the Steele dossier. We all know that the
Speaker 2: CIA and the FBI and the Obama administration and Hillary
Speaker 2: Clinton all collaborated to frame Trump for treason, and now
Speaker 2: there's this big expose eight plus years later, and you
Speaker 2: have this ground swell of lock them up, Hillary Clinton, Obama,
Speaker 2: They're all going to prison. I'm sorry, but like, if
Speaker 2: you can't put behind bars a human trafficking operation, a
Speaker 2: la Epstein, why should I have any faith at all
Speaker 2: that you're actually gonna do this? And I think that
Speaker 2: at the I mean, We're gonna watch the entire interview
Speaker 2: with Tulci because I think that it's at least interesting.
Speaker 2: It's good to know what's happening, it's good to know
Speaker 2: what the narrative is. But I just want to kind
Speaker 2: of cut to the chase here. Oftentimes people talk about
Speaker 2: the uniparty or the duopoly. The more black filed folks
Speaker 2: will say there is no difference between the two parties.
Speaker 2: That may be true. I'm not saying that it's not,
Speaker 2: but I'm just the way I view it is that
Speaker 2: even if you assume that there are two different sides
Speaker 2: of the aisle, I still look at it like warring
Speaker 2: gang leaders. It's not really a fight for real, for
Speaker 2: real in terms of like, oh, if this gang leader wins,
Speaker 2: we win, or if this gang leader wins, we win. No,
Speaker 2: that just means that that gang wins. And I think
Speaker 2: the real way this functions is, even if these people
Speaker 2: are actually adversarial, which I think they could be to
Speaker 2: a large extent, a good metaphor to think of it
Speaker 2: this way is that when it comes to cartel wars,
Speaker 2: oftentimes there will not be actual movement against the head,
Speaker 2: the cartel boss. If there's beef between the cartels, there
Speaker 2: will be you know, lower level gang men that may
Speaker 2: be taken out in the crossfire or in the infighting
Speaker 2: between the different gangs or the different mobs. But at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, they don't really want to
Speaker 2: take out the top guy because that opens the door
Speaker 2: for them coming for the top guy and his family
Speaker 2: and his close associates. So I think that's kind of
Speaker 2: how our government works. Unfortunately, that if you actually open
Speaker 2: the door to imprisoning a former president, which is what
Speaker 2: a lot of MAGA country is saying right now, lock
Speaker 2: Obama up. Look, I'm all for it, I'm all for
Speaker 2: locking up all the politicians basically at this point, but
Speaker 2: I just don't think that they're going to go down
Speaker 2: that path because then it actually opens the door for
Speaker 2: imprisoning everybody. And the way it really functions right now is,
Speaker 2: no matter how criminal, they all kind of know that
Speaker 2: you're not gonna actually go to prison. Sure you might
Speaker 2: get fined, Sure you'll be dragged through the mud, you'll
Speaker 2: be dragged through the tabloids, you'll be dragged through the
Speaker 2: court system, But will you go to prison? Like for decades,
Speaker 2: when's the last time you saw a politician do that?
Speaker 2: You know, it's like Rod Blgoyevitch. There's a handful of
Speaker 2: political operatives that have seen jailed time, the vast majority
Speaker 2: of them. It's like they get thrown in jail. The
Speaker 2: next guy wins the White House, he pardons all of
Speaker 2: his associates, and the cycle begins to know, no one
Speaker 2: ever actually goes to prison, and they never really go
Speaker 2: to prison for the things that they ought to go
Speaker 2: to prison for, like war crimes. They go to prison
Speaker 2: for like tax evasion, which is just not good enough.
Speaker 2: I mean, I want to be very clear, I am
Speaker 2: not downplaying what Obama and that entire camp did to
Speaker 2: the Trump administration. It is egregious. I think it could
Speaker 2: be argued that it's treason espionage of sorts. I don't
Speaker 2: even know what the actual technical laws violated are other
Speaker 2: than they are grievous, very very severe. So what I
Speaker 2: like to see justice restored? Yeah? Of course I would
Speaker 2: love to see politicians be put behind bars for corruption
Speaker 2: and criminality. The vast majority of them ought to be.
Speaker 2: But will they be? Will they actually open Pandora's box?
Speaker 2: And a lot of people thought that Pandora's box had
Speaker 2: been open when Donald Trump was facing eight hundred years
Speaker 2: behind bars. But was he really And I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe he was. I don't know. He certainly
Speaker 2: faced a lot of trials, but it's like as soon
Speaker 2: as he won the election, they were just kind of
Speaker 2: gone and all of the threats against him were just
Speaker 2: poof vanished. You're back in power, all right, Well, we
Speaker 2: tried to keep you out. You got it. Now what
Speaker 2: are you gonna do with it? Trump and his administration
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to prove you because I assume you're
Speaker 2: as jaded as I am, They have an opportunity to
Speaker 2: prove you and I wrong. Actually throw the book at
Speaker 2: these criminals, do it and begging to be wrong? Please
Speaker 2: let me be wrong. I would love to see twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven wall to wall coverage of the Barack
Speaker 2: Obama trial in Southern District of New York or DC
Speaker 2: yearor wherever it would be held. I just don't buy it.
Speaker 2: I just don't think you're going to do it. Are
Speaker 2: these people criminals? Yes? Should they go to prison? Yes?
Speaker 2: Will they No? Not gonna tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: In my role as the Director of National Intelligence, I
Speaker 1: oversee eighteen different intelligence community elements, and in the months
Speaker 1: leading up to the November twenty sixteen election, the intelligence
Speaker 1: community agreed that there was no intelligence that reflected that
Speaker 1: Russia was trying to hack the election in favor of
Speaker 1: either candidate. Russia did not have either the intent nor
Speaker 1: the capability to be able to impact the outcome of
Speaker 1: the United States election. There was a shift in early December.
Speaker 1: The first week of December, again, another document was produced
Speaker 1: by the intelligence media President's Daily Brief that was consistent
Speaker 1: with every other assessment that was done pre leading up
Speaker 1: to the election. Russia did not this is after the
Speaker 1: election now did not attempt to affect the outcome of
Speaker 1: the American election. That was never published hours before would
Speaker 1: have gone into President Obama's President's Daily Brief. It was
Speaker 1: pulled by a senior level intelligence official saying that they
Speaker 1: had to pull it because they had received new guidance
Speaker 1: the very next day. This meeting was called a National
Speaker 1: Security Council meeting, bring all together all of the senior
Speaker 1: leaders of President Obama's cabinet, and the topic that was
Speaker 1: put forward was a sensitive matter. The task that came
Speaker 1: out of that meeting was coming from President Obama directing
Speaker 1: the intelligence community, then Obama's OD and I Director Clapper
Speaker 1: to produce a document to produce an intelligence assessment that
Speaker 1: detailed not if, but how Moscow affected the outcome of
Speaker 1: the election that had already occurred, electing Donald Trump to
Speaker 1: the presidency. This document that they published in January of
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen was the foundational groundwork that they continued to
Speaker 1: reference over and over and over again to enact this
Speaker 1: year's long coup against President Trump.
Speaker 2: Let's pause it there. I mean, you've got Clapper, Brennan,
Speaker 2: Obama basically plotting a coup. The timeline here is important
Speaker 2: because we're talking January of seventeen, so Trump has already won,
Speaker 2: He's about to take power. So they have set the trap.
Speaker 2: They have a total fictitious lie that Russia had colluded
Speaker 2: with Donald Trump to rig the election in his favor.
Speaker 2: They've set this trap so that then, even though it's baseless,
Speaker 2: they can use it to undermine his presidency throughout the
Speaker 2: remainder of his four years, and also really poisoned the
Speaker 2: relationship between he and Vladimir Putin, who if you recall,
Speaker 2: prior to his first presidential term, he had spoken of like,
Speaker 2: we don't have to be enemies with these guys, and
Speaker 2: then suddenly, you know, because he's being accused of being
Speaker 2: a traitor to the country and having allied with the
Speaker 2: Russians to take the White House, he suddenly has to
Speaker 2: be a little bit more of a hard ass with them.
Speaker 2: Not to say that we should be, you know, best
Speaker 2: friends with the Russia or anything like that, but it'd
Speaker 2: be nice if, I don't know, we could have avoided
Speaker 2: them going to war in Ukraine and the proxy war
Speaker 2: between US and the Russians in Ukraine and the death
Speaker 2: of millions of people. That would be tremendous, but that
Speaker 2: wasn't in the cards. And it makes you wonder why
Speaker 2: did they do this. Now it could be said that
Speaker 2: it's just laying the trap to undermine everything that he
Speaker 2: wants to do his agenda so that there's no ability
Speaker 2: to get things done or abilities to stop the war machine.
Speaker 2: That's possible, or it could just be that there's other
Speaker 2: criminality that they're guilty of that they're trying to cover
Speaker 2: up possible, or they genuinely thought that this plot could
Speaker 2: get him out of p get him impeached, and get
Speaker 2: him I don't know throne in jail or arrested or
Speaker 2: just ousted period. I don't know exactly what the game
Speaker 2: plan was, But what I think is indicative of how
Speaker 2: sick our system is is that this baseless lie plotted
Speaker 2: by the Obama regime, not Obama but CIA, the deep state,
Speaker 2: so to speak. It's totally baseless, and yet there is
Speaker 2: a four plus year I mean really longer than that,
Speaker 2: but certainly four years of investigations and prosecutions and whistleblowers
Speaker 2: and this and that, and what will be the response.
Speaker 2: I mean, just contrast these two things. Baseless accusation, an
Speaker 2: actual conspiracy against the incoming president of the United States
Speaker 2: gets four years of investigations and impeachment and prosecutions and
Speaker 2: countless dollars an hour spent talking about it talking heads
Speaker 2: just for years talked about this as if it was
Speaker 2: a fact. Now you know it's not. It's not a fact.
Speaker 2: Will we have years of prosecutions and investigations and wall
Speaker 2: to wall coverage and talking heads going no, I don't
Speaker 2: think we will. And I think that that's a really
Speaker 2: good example of how sick this system is. That a
Speaker 2: genuine hoax, Russia collusion, genuine hoax, this genuinely not a hoax,
Speaker 2: a real deal plot to steal the presidency, and you
Speaker 2: get nothing. I mean, that's my expectation. As I said,
Speaker 2: I hope I'll be proven wrong. We need to be
Speaker 2: proven wrong the rich and the powerful. As I said
Speaker 2: in the past three episodes, when I'm talking about Epstein,
Speaker 2: it's not really about Epstein, It's about can we the
Speaker 2: American people expect the political elite, the connected to serve
Speaker 2: hard jail time when they commit grievous actions. Well, when
Speaker 2: it comes to kids, the answer is no. When it
Speaker 2: comes to them waging aggressive wars against each other, I
Speaker 2: guess we're about to find out.
Speaker 1: There's no question in my mind that this intelligence community
Speaker 1: assessment that President Obama ordered be published, which contained a
Speaker 1: manufactured intelligence document, it's worse than even politicization of intelligence.
Speaker 1: It was manufactured intelligence that sought to achieve President Obama
Speaker 1: and his team's objective, which was undermining President Trump's presidency
Speaker 1: and subverting the will of the American people. So yes,
Speaker 1: next week we will be releasing more detailed information about
Speaker 1: how exactly this took place and the extent to which
Speaker 1: this information was sought to be hidden from the American people,
Speaker 1: hidden from officials who would be in a position to
Speaker 1: do something about it. And that's really the point here
Speaker 1: that I think is most important. Accountability is essential for
Speaker 1: the future of our country, for the American people to
Speaker 1: have any sense of trust in the integrity of our
Speaker 1: democratic republic. Accountability, action, prosecution, indictments for those who are
Speaker 1: responsible for trying to steal our democracy is essential for
Speaker 1: us to make sure that this never happens to our
Speaker 1: country again.
Speaker 2: Preach TULSI no disagreement there, but I think there's a few,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, check marks or dominoes lined up
Speaker 2: that really undermine people's faith in the system. I mean,
Speaker 2: first off, you already have a huge swath of maga
Speaker 2: world that doesn't believe in the outcome of the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty election. When Joe Biden won, I don't blame them.
Speaker 2: He was like, essentially a cadaver. How the fuck did
Speaker 2: that guy win? He didn't even campaign. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: So you already have serious doubts about the legitimacy of
Speaker 2: election outcomes. Then you have the disparate treatment that comes
Speaker 2: from the judiciary when it comes to the j Sixers
Speaker 2: or the Whitmer hoax. I mean they I don't even
Speaker 2: want to call that entrapment because it's not really entrapment
Speaker 2: because they didn't even get these guys to agree to
Speaker 2: do what they were trying to get them to do,
Speaker 2: which was kidnapp Gretchen Whitmer. They just framed them. I
Speaker 2: mean that's really what it was. They got them into
Speaker 2: a van and they said or a truck or whatever,
Speaker 2: and they said, we're gonna go do this, and these
Speaker 2: guys were like, yeah, no, we're not. And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're in on it, going to prison forever. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's just it's crazy. So anyways, point being, people already
Speaker 2: doubt democracy, Now they doubt the judicial system. Then you
Speaker 2: have the Epstein case, that is like another domino that
Speaker 2: gets toppled, and there's no faith at this point, particularly
Speaker 2: after the botched cover up job that came from the
Speaker 2: Trump administration in my opinion, so no faith on that.
Speaker 2: Then you have this, which is really a coup against
Speaker 2: the incoming president and what most people perceive to be
Speaker 2: one of the only outsiders to get the White House
Speaker 2: in the past my entire life. And is there any
Speaker 2: justice for these people that are responsible for that? And
Speaker 2: I think most people are faithless. They have no belief
Speaker 2: that that's actually going to play out that way. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm sure some overly optimistic folks do, but I think
Speaker 2: if you've been paying attention as long as I'm sure
Speaker 2: most of us have, why would you believe that? Why
Speaker 2: would you think that they're actually going to serve serious
Speaker 2: jail time or even be prosecuted. So you've got the
Speaker 2: election system, you've got the judiciary. Those are two kind
Speaker 2: of foundational building blocks for a functioning civilization. And then
Speaker 2: you also have the economic paradigm where people are increasingly
Speaker 2: becoming socialists because they think that well, this is the
Speaker 2: capitalist system is failing and that it's you know, basically,
Speaker 2: it's all nepotism and if you're not connected, you have
Speaker 2: no chance of getting ahead. So might as well just
Speaker 2: sign up for socialism. In reality, it's really the product
Speaker 2: of crony capitalism and the fact that, yes, it is
Speaker 2: very hard to succeed in this system because it's not capitalism,
Speaker 2: it is not a free market, it's incredibly compromised. So
Speaker 2: I think that's another kind of pillar of the foundational
Speaker 2: build blocks of what made America good and special and functional.
Speaker 2: Most importantly, so those are like check check check, like topple.
Speaker 2: I mean, once you get through those dominoes, it's very
Speaker 2: hard to stand one of them back up, much less
Speaker 2: all of them. And at this point you have an opportunity,
Speaker 2: I mean a small one, but you have an opportunity
Speaker 2: to stand one of those dominoes back up to say, yes,
Speaker 2: the political elite can actually go to prison for the
Speaker 2: rest of their lives. Now, I for one, think that
Speaker 2: that would be an incredibly important signal to the people
Speaker 2: of this country that yeah, the system does still deliver justice.
Speaker 2: The problem hate to be the black pill guy again,
Speaker 2: but the problem is that half of this country who
Speaker 2: already believes that Donald Trump represents fascism because the TV
Speaker 2: talking head's been screaming that at them for the past
Speaker 2: eight years or nine or ten. They will perceive him
Speaker 2: prosecuting and locking up Barack Obama or any of these
Speaker 2: people as evidence that they're right, that this is fascism.
Speaker 2: And then you have the radicalized supporters of these folks
Speaker 2: that will almost certainly hit the streets and start writing
Speaker 2: and burning stuff down. It's kind of a cash twenty two.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you make this work without like,
Speaker 2: you have to pay a price if you're at the
Speaker 2: highest levels of power and you commit terrible crimes. But
Speaker 2: also you have already propagandized your supporters to believe that
Speaker 2: if they try and do that, if they actually try
Speaker 2: and lock you up, well then it's fascist. It's fascism
Speaker 2: and you must rise up against it. I mean that's
Speaker 2: the argument that they'll make. So ah, look, you got
Speaker 2: to give them credit. I don't like to, but like,
Speaker 2: they have set the frame so well that if you
Speaker 2: don't do anything well, then the system is defunct and
Speaker 2: people will start to give up on it and start
Speaker 2: to give up hope and revolution comes from that pathway
Speaker 2: as well. Or you do lock up your political opponents,
Speaker 2: and then you have the Democrat base and particularly the
Speaker 2: more radical left version of it that rises up thinking
Speaker 2: that they're now facing a fascistic regime because Rachel Maddow
Speaker 2: told them that Barack Obama's innocent is the driven snow
Speaker 2: along with Hillary Clinton and Brennan and Clapper and everybody else.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's genius when you actually think about how
Speaker 2: they have manipulated people's minds to perceive things. You referring
Speaker 2: this in a criminal matter.
Speaker 1: We are referring all of the documents that we have
Speaker 1: uncovered to the Department of Justice and the FBI as
Speaker 1: for a criminal referral.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and do you believe that we will see prosecutions?
Speaker 3: I mean, our audience wants to know where this story
Speaker 3: goes from here. Will we ever see anyone held accountable
Speaker 3: for this incredible lie on the American people.
Speaker 1: I will do all that I can, and we have whistleblowers, actually,
Speaker 1: Maria coming forward now after we release these documents, because
Speaker 1: there are people who were around, who were working within
Speaker 1: the intelligence community at this time who were so disgusted
Speaker 1: by what happened. We're starting to see some of them
Speaker 1: come out of the woodwork here because they too, like
Speaker 1: you and I and the American people, want to see
Speaker 1: justice delivered. So we're going to provide everything that we have,
Speaker 1: everything that we will continue to gather to the Department
Speaker 1: of Justice for that direct intent and that direct purpose,
Speaker 1: there must be indictments those responsible, no matter how powerful
Speaker 1: they are and were at that time, no matter who
Speaker 1: was involved in creating this treasonous conspiracy against the American people,
Speaker 1: they all must be held accountable.
Speaker 2: So all of our hopes and dreams right on the
Speaker 2: shoulders of the age, Miss Bindergate herself phase one that
Speaker 2: never had a Phase two, Pam Bondy, That's that's what
Speaker 2: we're riding on. Uh, look, I know that's how it works.
Speaker 2: Tolcy's not lying. That's she's like, Yeah, it's a referra
Speaker 2: for investigations and prosecutions to the AG and and the DJ
Speaker 2: and we'll see what happens. And you know, I I'll
Speaker 2: take toulsi outter word that she's sincere and that she's
Speaker 2: going to try and push that. But do you have
Speaker 2: any faith just sincere? Like, if you think that I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: I would love cheer me up, tell me, drop a
Speaker 2: comment down, belope, tell me why they're actually going to
Speaker 2: prosecute Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, James Clapper, Brennan comy, like,
Speaker 2: should they yes, why do you have any faith that
Speaker 2: they will? Pembody said that she had thousands of hours
Speaker 2: of Epstein on video doing terrible things. Now there's no
Speaker 2: other clients. She also said she had the client list
Speaker 2: on her desk and she was reviewing it. Now there
Speaker 2: is no client list. There was a phase one with
Speaker 2: much more to come, and then there was no phase two.
Speaker 2: But the beloved Barack Obama is going to go to
Speaker 2: prison for decades for China or the presidency. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm just not buying it. I wish I could. I
Speaker 2: wish I could. And I know there's a lot of
Speaker 2: bag of influence influencers out there that'll get way bigger
Speaker 2: numbers than I will, because they'll say, ah, justice is coming,
Speaker 2: Barack Obama and Big Mike are going to prison. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: they're not show me. Prove me wrong, Please prove me wrong.
Speaker 3: Why didn't Durham find it? Why didn't Muller find it? Okay,
Speaker 3: what about the Pfiser judges? Because when you look at
Speaker 3: this seditious conspiracy aimed at overthrowing the US government and
Speaker 3: an elected president, you have to consider also the black
Speaker 3: robes you've got to look at the Pfiser judges, and
Speaker 3: how about the fact that the judge who gave a
Speaker 3: slap on the wrist to Kevin Kleinsmith, who was the
Speaker 3: FBI agent who lied on an official document about Carter Page,
Speaker 3: who was spied on for a year. That judge is
Speaker 3: Judge James Bolsberg.
Speaker 2: He's still at.
Speaker 3: His desk and he's still trying to stop Donald Trump's agenda.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with anything that Barbiromo is saying there,
Speaker 2: but here's the problem. If you start to prosecute judges
Speaker 2: for their corruption, oh man, well, the MSNBC, CNN audience
Speaker 2: start to think that like fascism is for real here.
Speaker 2: And I am not saying not to do it. I
Speaker 2: want to be very clear. If you are corrupt, which
Speaker 2: many of these judges are and almost all of the
Speaker 2: politicians are, and you've committed these terrible crimes or you've
Speaker 2: participated in them, you absolutely ought to be prosecuted. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying don't do that. I'm just saying, put yourself
Speaker 2: in blun'non headspace and think about how they're going to
Speaker 2: perceive that they already believe that they're fighting fascism, and
Speaker 2: they have no reason to believe that. There's no evidence
Speaker 2: whatsoever to believe that. But if you start to see
Speaker 2: judges perp walked, if you start to see the deified,
Speaker 2: the reincarnation of Jesus Christ himself in black skin, Barack Obama,
Speaker 2: if you see him purp walked, if you see him
Speaker 2: sitting for trial for seditious conspiracy to overthrow the government
Speaker 2: of the United States of America, they will absolutely think
Speaker 2: that they are dealing with a fascist dictator. That's what
Speaker 2: they're going to say. So I'm not saying don't do it.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying they're going to respond in a way
Speaker 2: that is insane. Prepare yourself.
Speaker 1: This is of such historic consequence that it cannot be
Speaker 1: limited to one or two or three different people. You
Speaker 1: just outlined the implications and the effects of what actually occurred,
Speaker 1: and I think you're really putting into a clear picture
Speaker 1: what we are referring to when we refer to the
Speaker 1: deep state. It is very far reaching. I don't know
Speaker 1: what excuse there is for those who supposedly investigated this previously,
Speaker 1: whether it was Durham or others, that they were not
Speaker 1: able to put together the dots and and ultimately show
Speaker 1: the truth to the American people.
Speaker 2: Now, mind you, John Durham spent years investigating the Russia
Speaker 2: collusion case, years, tens of millions of dollars investigating it,
Speaker 2: and he didn't come up with this. Consider the fact that, like,
Speaker 2: if you were listening to I don't even know if
Speaker 2: I was. Yeah, I wasn't even doing my showback then.
Speaker 2: So this was more Dave Smith covering this, and he
Speaker 2: did a great job with him, and Robbie did an
Speaker 2: amazing job covering this. But I knew about this six
Speaker 2: plus years ago, like anybody in my world. We knew
Speaker 2: about this fucking forever ago. And yet you have years
Speaker 2: of a top prosecutor like John Durham, this guy who's like,
Speaker 2: I mean, the way they talked about this guy, like,
Speaker 2: if there is anything fucking out of order, if there's
Speaker 2: any specadert, John Durham's gonna find it. He's gonna lock
Speaker 2: everybody up. And what did he find? Nothing? Because they're
Speaker 2: was nothing? But why was there nothing? And why was
Speaker 2: this lie began? And you're telling me that John Durham
Speaker 2: investigated this for all those years and he never came
Speaker 2: to the conclusion that this was all a plot that
Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton and Brennan and Clapper and all these people
Speaker 2: created whole cloth fiction. He didn't include that in his report, now,
Speaker 2: did he. But Tulsi, all of a sudden, is a
Speaker 2: head of d and I and she comes out with it,
Speaker 2: and it's like, well, yeah, then there's something deeply wrong
Speaker 2: with what Durham did too. But I mean it's worse
Speaker 2: than that. I mean, it's not worse than that. It's
Speaker 2: just adding to that is Bill Barr, who came out
Speaker 2: and said, you know, within I think it was within
Speaker 2: a day, he was already parroting the line that Epstein
Speaker 2: had taken himself out in lock up, and it's just
Speaker 2: like this, it's just it's all so corrupt, it's so filthy,
Speaker 2: corrupt at the highest levels. And if you're going to
Speaker 2: actually purge it, if you're going to actually investigate and
Speaker 2: pross acute or indict and prosecute and jail the people
Speaker 2: behind this, which is what we need, let me be
Speaker 2: very clear, that's what needs to happen. But the reaction
Speaker 2: will be insane, and I just don't think that the
Speaker 2: American people have the spine for it, for the fallout
Speaker 2: that will happen in our civilization as a consequence of this,
Speaker 2: but it doesn't change the fact it needs to happen.
Speaker 2: It must happen if you're going to have a functioning
Speaker 2: country again, where we aren't at each other's throats, where
Speaker 2: we actually have some semblance of an understanding of like
Speaker 2: our world views. Just think about how incredibly separated our
Speaker 2: world views became as a consequence of the Russian collusion hoax.
Speaker 2: You have tens of millions of Americans, one hundred percent convinced,
Speaker 2: most of them to this day, that Donald Trump colluded
Speaker 2: with Vladimir Putin to steal the White House, to steal
Speaker 2: the presidency from Hillary Rodham Clinton. That's what they believe.
Speaker 2: And then you have everybody else who's not a lunatic
Speaker 2: that knew for years and years that these people were
Speaker 2: out of their fucking minds and that that didn't happen.
Speaker 2: But now can investigations, indictments and prosecutions and jailing of
Speaker 2: these people actually wake up the tens of millions that
Speaker 2: bought that lie for years and years and years. I
Speaker 2: don't know, I hope so some. I'm sure most, I'd
Speaker 2: say definitely not all, You're crazy, No, you're not bringing
Speaker 2: the vast majority of these people back to the land
Speaker 2: of the same, And what do you do with those people?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have an answer for that.
Speaker 2: It's like we live amongst zombies, and the crazy thing
Speaker 2: is they feel the same way about you and I.
Speaker 2: They're completely convinced that we're zombies because we don't believe
Speaker 2: that Vladimir Putin handed the presidency to Donald Trump? Is
Speaker 2: there any evidence to back up their claims?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Do we have evidence to back up our claims? Yeah, lots?
Speaker 2: Does that matter? No, we're just two different paths. I
Speaker 2: think it's Scott Adams that says the one screen, two
Speaker 2: different movies or something like that. That's kind of what
Speaker 2: it feels like. I'm not arguing like I think that
Speaker 2: the reason historically we're on the same screen or on
Speaker 2: the same movie is because we didn't have alternative media sources.
Speaker 2: We didn't have or the Internet for that matter. We
Speaker 2: didn't have the ability to actually do our own research
Speaker 2: and suss out the truth on our own, which kind
Speaker 2: of started the dividing line between the two sides of
Speaker 2: our culture. Those that just still watched that movie screen
Speaker 2: that was filled with bullshit forever and ever when it
Speaker 2: comes to propaganda for war whatever else. And then you
Speaker 2: have the rest of us who are just like, now,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go figure out what actually happened because I
Speaker 2: don't trust the news guys anymore because I look at
Speaker 2: their track record and they lied over and over again,
Speaker 2: and I think that's really where we're at, just completely
Speaker 2: bifurcated civilization. And can you bring can you congeal again?
Speaker 2: Can you bring it back together? I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I will say if you have a hope of doing so,
Speaker 2: you're going to have to do something like this, like
Speaker 2: what Tulsi is prescribing. You're going to have to have
Speaker 2: actual trials, preferably televised, where the evidence is presented and
Speaker 2: it's irrefutable, text, messages, emails. It would be even better
Speaker 2: if you had video or audio recordings. All of that
Speaker 2: would be helpful, if you could actually demonstrate, yes, this
Speaker 2: was a hoax. Yes, Hillary Clinton crafted the Steele Dossa.
Speaker 2: Barack Obama, along with the CIA and the FBI, the
Speaker 2: spying operation, and the completely made up intelligence reports that
Speaker 2: said that Russia was cluding with Donald Trump. That's the
Speaker 2: only way, that's the only way we have a chance
Speaker 2: at bringing our country back together, and in the process
Speaker 2: it may all come crumbling down. And here's the really
Speaker 2: crazy thing. You know, who was the Director of National
Speaker 2: Intelligence under Donald Trump in his first presidential term, who
Speaker 2: oversaw all of this Who would have had the capacity
Speaker 2: to to get to the truth, just as Tulci Gabbett has.
Speaker 2: That would be John Ratcliffe. Guess who he is, Guess
Speaker 2: where he's stationed today, head of the CIA. And this
Speaker 2: is what begs the question of like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: is wrong with Donald Trump? I look, I know if
Speaker 2: you love the guy, Sorry, I have to ask this question.
Speaker 2: I think you ought to be asking to yourself too.
Speaker 2: Ratcliffe was the d and I the Director of National Intelligence.
Speaker 2: All of this information that Tulsi now has, he could
Speaker 2: have gotten to Donald Trump in his first presidential term.
Speaker 2: He didn't. Why well, because he's not on Trump's team.
Speaker 2: So why, for God's sakes is this guy now the
Speaker 2: head of the CIA under Donald Trump in his second
Speaker 2: term after facing years of lies and prosecutions and impeachments
Speaker 2: and everything else. Why the fuck do you fail? Upwards?
Speaker 2: You basically oversaw an attempted coup, and then the guy
Speaker 2: that you tried to coop, gave you a promotion. What
Speaker 2: sense does any of this make? It makes no sense,
Speaker 2: which is why as I flip flop constantly, because I'm like,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump is facing eight hundred years in prison, he
Speaker 2: had a bullet graze his head. Uh, he was impeached
Speaker 2: multiple times, the FBI spied on him, They did all
Speaker 2: of these things, the Russia collusion, the hopes, everything else,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, he must be an outsider. And then
Speaker 2: he goes and he fucking points Ratcliffe, the former d
Speaker 2: and I who oversaw the attempted coup against himself and
Speaker 2: didn't say a fucking thing about it, and he's now
Speaker 2: the head of the CIA. What is happening? Why is
Speaker 2: it happening like this? I don't know. I'm just being
Speaker 2: honest with you, guys. I don't understand it. And then
Speaker 2: the super Black Bill people will just swoop into my
Speaker 2: comments going, oh, you fucking idiot, you think that they're
Speaker 2: on different teams. This is all a show. There will
Speaker 2: be no trials, there will be no jailing it D
Speaker 2: da da dad, Okay, maybe maybe you're right. I don't know,
Speaker 2: just saying it's all very strange. Can we at least
Speaker 2: admit that, like they did a lot, like if this
Speaker 2: is all just a big play and they're all in
Speaker 2: on it. Wow, these guys are incredible actors. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you've seen Donald Trump and Home alone two.
Speaker 3: Excuse me down the hall and to the left, But I.
Speaker 2: Don't think he's that good of a fucking actor honestly,
Speaker 2: or ww we like, come on. So it's just very
Speaker 2: hard to dissect. It's very hard to decipher and comprehend
Speaker 2: what's actually happening. And I think, like where I normally
Speaker 2: fall is I think that these are warring gangs more
Speaker 2: or less. The real like showman aspect of it is
Speaker 2: that they all realize that, look, we play hard and
Speaker 2: fast and loose with the rules, and at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, none of us go to prison. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's like, that's the real rule. We'll frame each other
Speaker 2: for treason and do all sorts of wild shit, but
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, we pardon each other,
Speaker 2: and whoever lies best gets to hold power for the
Speaker 2: next four years. Like, I think that's how it actually works.
Speaker 2: Its cynical and crappy, is that it is to believe.
Speaker 2: But I can't come up with a better answer or diagnosis.
Speaker 2: It's so confused. So who all needs to go to prison?
Speaker 2: You ask, Well, let's listen to mister Strock as to
Speaker 2: who was involved at.
Speaker 4: Every step, at every investigative decision. There are multiple layers
Speaker 4: of people above me the assistant director, executive assistant director,
Speaker 4: deputy director, and director of the FBI, and multiple layers
Speaker 4: of people below me, section chiefs, supervisors, unit chiefs, case agents,
Speaker 4: and analysts, all of whom were involved in all of
Speaker 4: these decisions.
Speaker 2: So if you believe, as I believe, that that's what happened,
Speaker 2: that there was an attempted coup against the incoming president
Speaker 2: of United States, and then an attempted coup while he
Speaker 2: was the President of United States, including impeachment and everything else,
Speaker 2: you have to acknowledge that this is not just Barack
Speaker 2: Obama or Hillary Clinton. This is top brass including probably
Speaker 2: like chain of command, FBI, CIA probably. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: just so vast, but it's obviously true that's what happened.
Speaker 2: So that is the deep state. If you want to
Speaker 2: restore faith in this system, to restore faith in this country,
Speaker 2: you have one pathway forward, and it is incredibly arduous task.
Speaker 2: You have to take on the people that take you
Speaker 2: out if you get out of line. Do you have
Speaker 2: the courage to do that? Well, based off of your
Speaker 2: handling slash cover up of the Epstein case, I would
Speaker 2: say no, you don't prove me wrong. I would love, love,
Speaker 2: love to actually have hope that this system is reformable
Speaker 2: through the judiciary, through the ballot box, because over the
Speaker 2: past month I've been thinking about a different type of box,
Speaker 2: and I don't like thinking about that box. So let's
Speaker 2: not think about that box, all right, You guys enjoyed
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