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But there was a plane crash at the Statesville Regional

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Airport that's in Iredell County. According to the sheriff, multiple

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deaths occurred when a Sesna See five point fifty airplane

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crashed at around ten to fifteen am, so a little

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over an hour and a half ago. It was not

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a me imediately known exactly how many people were on

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board the plane nor who they were. A picture from

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the airport shows the plane and a massive ball of

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flames after it crashed. WBTV reports that business record show

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the plane was affiliated with retired NASCAR driver Greg Biffle.

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It was not clear if he was on the plane

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when it crashed. According to Well, that's just the city's

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website and the city owned airports or some details about

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the airport there. Assessina C five fifty business jet crashed

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while landing this morning. This is according to WSOCTV. The

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tail number N twenty five seven BW which is owned

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by GB Greg Biffel GB Aviation Leasing, which has the

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same address as Greg Biffle. Again, we don't know who

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was on board the plane. Biffle is a well known

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NASCAR driver. He had over five hundred cups starts and

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nineteen wins, and you may remember he made a lot

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of headlines. A little over a year ago after Hurricane Helene,

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he and a bunch of volunteers got together and began

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running emergency relief supply flights to the mountains of western

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North Carolina, and more recently, he was running relief efforts

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down to Jamaica when Hurricane Melissa moved through the area.

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Biffle is himself a registered pilot AC. According to motorsport

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dot Com, he led several daring expeditions by helicopter into

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the mountains of western North Carolina and East Tennessee following

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Hurricane Helene aimed, aiming to help stranded people and deliver

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aid to those that were cut off from the rest

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of the world by the historic floods. There was we

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saw a report, but I don't have it confirmed that

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there's going to be some sort of a press conference.

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I think it was initially reported that there may it

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may occur at noon, but obviously that's not happening at

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this point. If they do hold a news conference and

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we were able to grab it, I will I will

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bring it to you, you know, live as it occurs.

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Hang on a second. So that's okay. So now to

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Channel nine is now looks like doing some other crash

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or something. Hang on, hang on, we have the TVs

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on up here and looking at Channel nine. Oh, they're

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talking about an emergency landing at Statesville Airport last year,

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So okay, So I don't know if they're trying to

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fill time before the news conference begins or not. Again,

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w BTV reporting that fatalities are confirmed. The area was

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very foggy, it still is. Traffic around the airport roads

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have been blocked, so there we don't know if whether

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played a factor in the crash or not. But it's

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I mean, looking at the the images from you know,

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witnesses and people who saw it happened. Uh, it's it's horrific.

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It's just catastrophic. If anybody walked away, it would be

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a miracle. So again, we'll give you more details as

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we as we get them. But if you are of

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the praying kind, say a prayer for the families and

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the victims in this crash. A story that I have

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not yet covered, but I've been building sort of my

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my stack of prep about it is. And it's there's

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no reason why I haven't gotten to it. Just accept

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my poor time management skills. It's been the story of

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the Sycamore Brewing founder, co founder, Justin Brigham. And when

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the story first broke, you know, a couple of days ago,

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you know, I've printed out some various reports and I've

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just kept adding to them as we get more and

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more details because the original story, I think led a

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lot of people to believe and we still don't know

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exactly what occurred. When this man, Justin Brigham, who's I

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want to say, forty four years old or so, yeah,

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forty four, he was arrested and charged with breaking and

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entering and child rape. And when people hear those two charges,

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I think it it paints an image of like a

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maniac kicking in a door, you know, and assaulting some child.

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But as more details have emerged, it seems like he

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met this girl on Snapchat. She's thirteen years old. She's

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not been identified due to her age. There's a report

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also that she had sent him in inappropriate picture on

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Snapchat and when her parents discovered that he was in

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her bedroom naked. It seems to me like a fight

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ensued of some kind because the other day, when I

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think a day two days ago, another charge, well, multiple

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more charges were thrown at Brigham, and one of the

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charges included an assault. But the victim in that charge

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is a male and shares the same last name as

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the victim. And I'm going to put some context clues

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together here and submit that that's probably the father. So

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this guy justin Brigham, according to the charge, grabbed the

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I believe the father grabbed him by his groin and

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squeezed and twisted, causing severe pain, which would explain how

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he was able to escape the house. Right, he assaulted

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the dad and then he flees the house. He's completely naked.

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He gets into his car, which I guess he left unlocked,

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or maybe it's a fingerprint open door lock or something,

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because he fled without any of his clothing. That's what

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it seems like. Again, we don't have all these details,

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but police found him in his car completely naked, which

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would make sense if he got caught in the act

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with the thirteen year old. So this was from wbtv's report.

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The Charlotte man accused of raping a teenage girl last

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week allegedly used the social media app snapchat to contact

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the girl. According to the Stanley County Sheriff's Office, Justin

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Brigham the former owner. He's being referred to as that

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based on statements from his wife and co owner of

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Sycamore Brewing. But confirming that is more difficult because well,

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there are reasons and the Charlotte Ledger gets into some

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of this, but and I'm going to get to that,

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but he's being identified as the former owner of Sycamore Brewing.

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He was accused of breaking into a home in Stanfield

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in Stanley County, outside of Albemarle and raping a thirteen

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year old girl. So this was what it seems like

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to me, is that they were talking. This was arranged

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and because of her age, it's statutory rate because she

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cannot legally consent because she's only thirteen. The Sheriff's office

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said that the social media app was Snapchat. Officials also

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charged him with more child sex crimes in connection with

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the rape. The Stanley County Sheriff's Office announced the following

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new charges, three counts of statue toy sex offense with

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a child under the age of fifteen, one count of

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second degree sexual exploitation of a minor, one count of

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soliciting a child by computer, and one count of assault

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inflicting serious bodily injury. And that was the assault that

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was on apparently the father. Again, I'm like, this is

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just my reading sort of between the lines and compiling

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all the information, like that's what this, that's what it

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sounds like. I don't know. Maybe there was somebody else,

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maybe it was her brother or something that he assaulted.

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I don't know. But one of the questions that people

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have been asking is like, wait, the parents caught him,

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how did he make it out of the house? Right,

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So it seems like there may have been a fight

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that ensued. I would imagine it's also pretty startling, right,

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and if you know, maybe jumped out a window or something.

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So don't know. Now, with the other charges that they

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threw at Brigham, I believe now they have revoked his

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bond with the addition of the new charges. He was

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initially given a ten million dollar bond, but he was

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being held because he couldn't afford it, and so he

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was being held in the county jail. And now with

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the new charges, I think the last report was that

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he had his bond completely revoked. So what to make

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from a listener MacLean who says, uh, the male victim

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was the girl's older brother. The father died over a

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month ago, so that's interesting. And then that also, I like,

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when did when did this guy Brigham, the Sycamore Brewing

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co founder, when did he start communicating with this girl?

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How long has that been going on? If her father

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had recently died, then that that offers a window for

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a predator right to take advantage. So this is thank

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you for the for the information. Like I said, I'm

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just trying to piece together what limited information is available.

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The Stanley County uh Sheriff's Office has not been providing

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a lot of details. I'm not and I'm not dragging

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them for that. I'm just saying they haven't been providing

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a lot of details about, you know, how they met

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and everything else, and so maybe we find out more

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as they work through the court system at some point,

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obviously they have to. Before his arrest, he was listed

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as co founder of Sycamore Brewing. According to Business Record,

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Sycamore Brewing is the largest brewery in Charlotte in one

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of the city's most popular spots see and this is see.

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Here's the problem is that, according to all of the

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reports that I have seen, all of the officials say

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that the parents found him. That and so like that.

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I don't understand her. If this girl's father had passed

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away a month ago, I'm not sure why this information

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would be in the official narrative coming out of the

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sheriff's office. Sounds like they would know if there were

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two parents there, right, and if there weren't two parents,

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they would say the mother found them. But this was

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the initial reporting, and it's remained consistent that they found

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him the parent. The victim's parents found Brigham in their

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daughter's bedroom. Brigham was ultimately found completely undress in a

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vehicle near the victim's home, which I assume is his vehicle,

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I'm assuming he rented a car or drove his own

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car parked somewhere, maybe not on the property, but maybe

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nearby in order to you know, have this rendezvous with

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the girl that I'm assuming he had lined up outside

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obviously of the parent's knowledge. The breaking and entering people

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think that that that requires some sort of you know,

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like kicking in a door or busting out a window.

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It does not necessarily mean that though, like I've heard

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people refer to it with the breaking is breaking the threshold.

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If you open a door that's closed, that could be

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considered breaking and entering and stuff. So again, like the

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nature of the charges paint a pick sure of something

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that might not actually be the case. It might be

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I don't know. I'm just these are the questions that

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I have that I would be asking at these press conferences.

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How did he gain entry? Like start like I start

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with basic fundamental questions, simple questions whose car was he driving,

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whose car did you find him in? Stuff like that,

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How did he gain entry into the house? Were both

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parents there that found him? Were there any other people

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in the home at the time. Right, So he was

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initially held on a ten million dollar bond and banned

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from social media. Now after this story. So this story

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broke about what five days ago, and the initial statement

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that came from Sycamore Brewing they posted it on their Instagram.

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Nobody from the brewery has done any interview, is they

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have and give a press conference that they're not talking

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and like, look, I cannot imagine what this guy with

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the attackers family has to be going through, right, I mean, like,

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I'm very sympathetic here to the wife who you find

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out that your husband did what right, and now you

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are in the midst of complete wreckage of your your family, right,

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the life that you have built, your business, one hundred

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and twenty employees that are relying on you for their paychecks,

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all of the fans and customers that loved the brewery

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and the beer that they made, and all of it

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just detonated overnight. So how do you respond to something

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like this. There's no there's no rule book. You know,

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I'm not aware of you know of of a guide

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on how to get through something like this. But Sycamore

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Brewing put out a response, and it said that it

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was divesting, that he was going to divest all of

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his interests and will have no further involvement with the company.

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His wife, Sarah Taylor, said in the statement that she's

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taking full leadership of the company, effective immediately, and she

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is quote devastated by the charges against Justin and the

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pain this has inflicted on our family and others. They

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then put out another statement, But this first statement may

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have prompted the cancelation of an event that was set

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that'll last a lifetime. In the immediate aftermath of the

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arrests of the co founder of Sycamore Brewing, largest brewery

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in Charlotte, on charges of child rape, he drove out

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to Stanfield near Albemarle and apparently set up a meeting

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and was talking to a thirteen year old girl on Snapchat.

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Reports were that her parents came in and caught him

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in the child's bedroom. Apparently a fight ensued. He's also

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charged with assaulting some other male in the house. They

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added that charge along with a couple of others, and

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so they put out a statement in the immediate aftermath

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of the arrest. Sycamore Brewing did and I read to

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you that statement before the.

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Speaker 1: Break that apparently is part of the reason why an

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event that was scheduled for tonight. I believe where Sycamore

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Brewing is located. It's called the Line Building. It's it's

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in South End, it's on the light rail line. And

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they had some big event tonight, like a little pop

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up market deal, and it got canceled. This is from WSOCTV.

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The fallout continues for Sycamore Brewing, as a Charlotte small

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business owner canceled a planned holiday event, citing concerns about

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holding a celebration in the wake of child sex crime

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charges against the breweries. Co founder Lydia Warns said she

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understands that the actions of one man don't represent the

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entire company. However, she doesn't feel comfortable holding an event

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about peace and love in the holiday season in light

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of the recent charges against the breweries co founder Justin Brigham.

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Warrens organizes pop up markets around Charlotte through her company

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Makers Market CLT. Earlier this week, she canceled the holiday

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market scheduled for today tonight at the Line Building in

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South End, which would have highlighted her vendors and other

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businesses that operate in the same building as Sycamore Brewing.

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She says, I was under the impression that they were

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going to try to open and sell beer, I guess

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during her event, and she said it was an immediate

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no in my head. I can't, she said, you know,

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as for Brigham's wife, who's the other co owner of

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the brewery, she said, I feel for her. She's going

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through something. I don't think there's a guidebook for that's true,

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But she also said that she was she did not

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She did not like the statement that came out from

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Sycamore Brewing. She said, even the initial press release they did,

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I think is what set my mind to be like, Okay,

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we're done, because it felt like it wasn't about the community,

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it wasn't about the victim. It felt a little to

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me a little selfish again. No guidebook here. Channel nine

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learned that several Charlotte bars have been unable to order

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Sycamore products all week through Adams Distributing, one of the

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distributors of the beers. It's one of the biggest distributors

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in the Charlotte area. They did not respond to requests

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for comments from Channel nine. Comer Distributing also stopped selling

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Sycamore beers. They said, our responsibility goes beyond the products

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we sell. Even though the vile person responsible has not

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been involved in the day to day operations of the

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brewery for a couple years. He resided outside the US

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prior to this happening. What that's new information that he

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hasn't even been involved in the company for years and

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he doesn't live in America anymore? Curious? All right, if

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you're listening to this show, you know I try to

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know you do too. And you've probably heard me say

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make the media landscape more transparent. Sycamore Brewing released a

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second statement. They did this on Saturday, and it says

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we wanted to speak directly to our friends and the

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community about events from the past few days. On Thursday,

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our co founder and former owner, Justin Brigham was charged

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by the Stanley County Sheriff's Office with statutory rape of

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a child, first degree burglary, and indecent liberties with a child.

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These charges are horrifying and Justin's acts are despicable. We

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are heartbroken for the victim. No person should have to

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endure what she did. We realize that words cannot fix

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what has been done, but want everyone to know that

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our hearts are completely broken for her. These are unforgivable actions.

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Justin made horrible decisions, and now he must deal with

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the consequences. We hope that justice is rapid and allows

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for the victim and her family to begin the healing process.

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When we first learned of Justin's arrest on Thursday, Sarah Taylor,

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co founder and owner put Out and wife put out

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a short statement. This statement came from a devastated wife

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and a mother trying to make sense of something unthinkable.

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Released shortly after learning of the news, the statement tried

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to provide information and share that Justin was no longer

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an owner or manager of Sycamore. Sarah is navigating an

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unknown path, trying to find footing as a mother and

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as the owner of a business with deep ties to

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our community. Amid the shock and devastation, she is focusing

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on her duties to both a shattered household and a

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shattered community to bring both through this situation. Endless people

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have been impacted by Justin's actions. Our Sycamore staff have

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been has been steadfast, working tirelessly amidst the chaos and uncertainty.

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We will get through this, and this family has each

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other's backs for our community, friends, customers, neighbors. We realize

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trust has been violated. We know you are angry. We

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are angry too, and still learning and processing the full

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scope of what happened. While there is a legal process unfolding.

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We want to be as transparent with you about how

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deeply we share your outrage and sorrow. To be clear,

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Sycamore will not assist in Justin's defense. We trust that

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the legal system will hold Justin fully accountable for what

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he has done. This is about doing right by all

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of those who have been affected by this, first and

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foremost by the victim and er family, but also by

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Sarah and her daughter, and by the innocent people whose

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livelihoods depend on Sycamore. Much better statement, a little bit

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of an explanation as to why the first statement was

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so terse, which makes sense to me. But here's the problem.

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Not only have bars been dumping out this beer right

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there's and look, there is a whole bunch of performance

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going on with people doing this for you know, their

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social media posts and stuff. I get that distributors are

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you know, taking it off their off their inventory list.

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You've got restaurants, you've got grocery stores. People are pulling

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the beer. The problem is that the brand is now toxic.

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It just is people don't want to be seen drinking

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your beer because it sends a message, even if it's

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stupid and it's you know, if this guy, uh Brigham

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wasn't even involved in day to day operations and he was.

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I got a text that they apparently owned a house

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in Bermuda, which is apparently where they met. I think

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she is originally from Bermuda. I think that's what I

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read in Yeah. In twenty seventeen podcast, Sarah Taylor Brigham

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reflected on how they met. She was working during a

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college summer as a jet ski tour guide in Bermuda,

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where she is from, and one day spy Justin, a

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Charlotte Latin grad who attended the University of Colorado who

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was working on a tour boat. They struck up a

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conversation and then they eventually got married, moved to Charlotte

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to pursue their dream together. They named the business Sycamore,

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after the sycamore tree, which is prevalent throughout the state

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and is long living, something that the brewery hopes it

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will emulate. That was according to an article in Charlotte

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Magazine back in twenty thirteen. That's why they named it Sycamore.

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It's prevalent throughout the state and it is long living. Unfortunately,

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I don't think this brand is going to be long living.

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I see reports from various media outlets, but also you

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know people going on their social media accounts and they,

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you know, walk by the brewery and they shoot video

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and show how like nobody's there. It is a massive

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brewery right in the heart of South End, and no

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one's going to it because the brand is toxic. They

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don't want their they don't want to be seen holding

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a can with the Sycamore name on it, and they

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don't want their money to be used to support this

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guy justin Brigham and trying to unwind business ownership. Unless

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Brigham just signs it all away and says, yes, I'm

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going to give up all of my shares, I'm going

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to give up everything. I'm divesting and I will receive

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no revenue whatsoever from this company that I built, which, oh,

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by the way, could come in handy as I try

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to hire a defense attorney. Do you think he's going

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to do that? I don't now. I don't know what

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their contracts look like. Usually there's some moral turpitude kind

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of clause in a contract. If you do something to

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bring ill repute to the company, they can several ties

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and you lose a lot of your benefits and stuff.

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But I don't know what those contracts say. Nobody does.

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And even so that's going to take some time to

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go through. And if he starts fighting that because he

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needs a revenue source to pay for his defense, then

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you can't say that if you go buy some beer

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at Sycamore, that it's not going to go help him

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in some way because you don't know. This is the problem.

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This is the problem. Is it punishing the wife and

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the one hundred and twenty or so employees of Sycamore?

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It is? It is like and that that really stinks.

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As far as I know, she had no knowledge of

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this was going on anything like this as far as

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I know, and she's a victim in this as well,

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as is their daughter, as are the employees they were all.

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I mean, the blast zone from this guy is immense,

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and it's said all around, all around. But I don't

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see any other way out of this unless they sell

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it and rebrand it. I really don't, and I know

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that stinks, but I don't know any other way out

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for a company that's been impacted like this. All right,

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that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much

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for listening. I could not do the show without your

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support and the support of the businesses that advertise on

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