1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: Dana Lashes of surd Truth podcast sponsored by Keltech. 2 00:00:05,919 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 2: It's his life mission to make bad decisions. 3 00:00:12,439 --> 00:00:13,839 Speaker 3: It's time for Florida man. 4 00:00:14,679 --> 00:00:16,559 Speaker 1: I immediately want to go to the guy who was 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,239 trying to steal steak, so I'm not going in order. 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,839 I'm sorry, but this immediately caught my eye, as you 7 00:00:21,879 --> 00:00:26,120 can imagine it would anybody's. So this Florida man stole 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:29,679 four Ribbi steaks and hid him under his shirt, hid 9 00:00:29,679 --> 00:00:33,079 them under his shirt out a Walmart. According to deputies, 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,799 man just wanted some red meat, that's all. Angel Rivera 11 00:00:37,079 --> 00:00:39,399 sixty six was charged with petty theft of one hundred 12 00:00:39,399 --> 00:00:45,119 dollars or more after he on this Walmart Ribbi theft. 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,560 He hid them under his shirt and they got him 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,920 on camera. He went and picked out four packs of Ribbis, 15 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:53,000 placed them on the top part of his shopping cart, 16 00:00:53,079 --> 00:00:55,439 and then he went to a different aisle where I 17 00:00:55,439 --> 00:00:57,640 guess he thought cameras couldn't get him, and he hid 18 00:00:57,679 --> 00:01:00,000 them under his shirt, which he was covered by a jack, 19 00:01:00,079 --> 00:01:02,920 and then he left without pain. Walmart asked that protection 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,280 officer confronted and he gave the stakes back. They waited 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,599 till deputies arrived. It was. They were recovered but damaged. 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:14,159 One hundred and two dollars for four stakes. One hundred 23 00:01:14,159 --> 00:01:19,439 and two dollars. Man, that's a lot. So he's he 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,120 gets in trouble. He gets in trouble. So we also 25 00:01:24,239 --> 00:01:30,640 have this guy. He didn't want to share his UH 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,000 passcode on his phone. He did not want to share 27 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,760 his passcode, his password, his phone's like to unlock his 28 00:01:37,799 --> 00:01:41,680 phone with his girlfriend, and he jumped into the ocean. Hmmm, 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,799 this sounds this dude doesn't sound trustworthy. Just got to 30 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:48,239 say he would rather literally jump to where the sharks 31 00:01:48,239 --> 00:01:51,280 and gators live. A Florida man he did not want 32 00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:54,120 his girlfriend or his cops to access his phone and 33 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:57,359 he jumped into the ocean to avoid giving it up 34 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,359 and flet try to flee arrest after he was being 35 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,719 grilled by police while out on a boat. There's body 36 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:05,480 cam footage. It shows two female Florida fish and Wildlife 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,800 Commissioner Commissioned officers questioning the guy. He identified himself as AJ. 38 00:02:10,199 --> 00:02:11,759 Him and his girlfriend on a boat in the Keys 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,520 and UH. He was arguing with his office, the officers, 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,960 and his girlfriend over the phone. He got agitated and 41 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:20,360 jumped into the ocean, and because he goes, what if 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,120 I just swim away? And then he led I love 43 00:02:23,159 --> 00:02:25,080 this line. He led the cops on a seven minute 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,120 pursuit back to shore, where they promptly arrested him. Uh 45 00:02:29,199 --> 00:02:31,879 he I don't know what they didn't actually say, like 46 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,599 what they just said his boat was breaching code and 47 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,039 they didn't have any like documentation with him. And that's 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,039 pretty much all they because I really don't know why 49 00:02:40,039 --> 00:02:44,159 they were stopped or why. But to me, like not 50 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:46,879 even letting your girl, I'm just saying, just just saying. 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,919 It sounds a little sketchy. Sounds a little sketchy. Oh 52 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:50,800 what else we got? 53 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:51,039 Speaker 3: Uh? 54 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:55,879 Speaker 1: This? Oh yeah, this one, This is when I pomp 55 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,520 an o beach woman. Man, this woman had a bad day. 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,759 She flipped off the camera a plotic into a school 57 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:02,719 and then she also hit a bunch of wheelchairs in 58 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:05,439 a cop car. Deputy say she caused more than twenty 59 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:08,000 thousand dollars worth of damage. She drove through the closed 60 00:03:08,039 --> 00:03:10,639 gates of a South Florida school where twelve children with 61 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,360 special needs were the brad Horizon School, and she plowed 62 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,280 through the glass drawer. She ran over a whole bunch 63 00:03:17,319 --> 00:03:21,120 of wheelchairs and then she backed into a sheriff's patrol 64 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:23,599 car and then did donuts in the parking lot before 65 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,080 speeding down the school hallway. 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But there's been this like really big 88 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:48,639 argument that has really erupted on the right about the 89 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,160 place of Christian faith in the RNC, And there's a 90 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,800 lot of concern about the removal of like pro life 91 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,879 language from the platform and the removal of defining turn 92 00:04:59,879 --> 00:05:02,800 to marriages being between a man and a woman. And 93 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,199 I love what Joel Barry said. He's the managing editor 94 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:07,600 of The Babylon b and I wanted to read this 95 00:05:07,639 --> 00:05:09,600 to you because I think it should. It's the kind 96 00:05:09,639 --> 00:05:11,600 of long for a T shirt, but it's T shirt worthy, 97 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,439 he writes. Quote in his he wrote this on X 98 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,959 he said, quote, Sorry, pro life evangelical leaders, when you 99 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,519 nominate weaklings like Romney McCain and Mike Pence, you lose elections. 100 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:27,160 When you act like politics is too dirty for Christians 101 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:29,759 to be involved in, you lose the party. When you 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,839 think evangelizing entails inviting your neighbor to megachurch movie night, 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,560 you lose the culture. The Republican Party is no longer yours. 104 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,079 But you weren't pushed out, He writes. You gave it up. 105 00:05:40,319 --> 00:05:42,800 You stopped fighting for it. You were too busy building 106 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,000 your stupid megachurch kingdom with its twenty eight satellite locations 107 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,800 and inane self help sermons, while the culture and the 108 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,439 country fell into disrepair. There's still time to turn it around, 109 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:54,439 but you have a ton of work to do. And 110 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,319 he adds too that you lost the Republican Party long 111 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,800 before Trump. They paid lip service to your cause, but 112 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,279 they never really cared about it, and you were satisfied 113 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,279 to remain uninvolved and punch the ticket for whichever polite, 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,319 milk toast family man with good hair told you the 115 00:06:09,399 --> 00:06:12,800 right things while giving up on every single issue. And 116 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,160 he ends with Trump and Trump supporters didn't start this, 117 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:20,319 they just exposed it. Oh my gosh, that's a sermon. 118 00:06:20,439 --> 00:06:23,360 And joining us right now is dooel Berry with the 119 00:06:23,399 --> 00:06:27,079 Babylon being. God love you for writing that, because I 120 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,120 am so glad that you said this, and I say 121 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,240 this as someone who lives in a town where we 122 00:06:31,519 --> 00:06:34,319 just had a megachurch scandal at the Gateway Church with 123 00:06:34,519 --> 00:06:36,639 one of the pastors over there, and it became this 124 00:06:36,759 --> 00:06:39,399 huge thing. And I'm like, and I always hear all 125 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:41,800 the time from so many leaders like, don't you know 126 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,759 politics is dirty? Don't get involved in it. You know, 127 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,360 it's not. It's like you're you're not really, it's like 128 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:48,959 bad for Christians to get involved. I'm so glad that 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,439 you said this. Tell me what your thoughts are of 130 00:06:51,519 --> 00:06:53,279 all of this, because I think what you said is 131 00:06:53,319 --> 00:06:54,879 what a lot of people are really feeling. 132 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think evangelicals, for the most part, have themsels 133 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,240 elves to blame for this. For the last two decades, 134 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,639 we've been told, you know, if you get involved in politics, 135 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,920 if you're an outspoken conservative, you're worshiping power, you're practicing idolatry. 136 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:11,839 You're living for the kingdom of man rather than the 137 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,839 Kingdom of God. You know, you hear all this stuff, 138 00:07:14,199 --> 00:07:17,439 and our leaders have been examples of complete impotence. In 139 00:07:17,439 --> 00:07:19,680 spite of our high ideals, the things that we believe. 140 00:07:20,839 --> 00:07:23,160 They haven't done much good for the Republican Party. They 141 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,720 haven't done much good when it comes to preserving our 142 00:07:26,759 --> 00:07:30,720 culture and stopping the march of the left. And so 143 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,879 we shouldn't be surprised. I mean, you know, while while 144 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:36,480 we were being lectured from the pulpit about not being 145 00:07:36,519 --> 00:07:40,680 too political from our evangelical leaders, people like car Meat Dillon, 146 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,600 we're kicking down doors, you know, fighting for liberty for 147 00:07:44,639 --> 00:07:47,560 our children and our grandchildren. And so of course the 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,319 Republican Party, they're going to go with the people who 149 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,639 are actually fighting, who are actually doing something, as opposed 150 00:07:52,639 --> 00:07:54,120 to the people who are kind of sitting off to 151 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,079 the side, just waiting to be catered to like evangelicals 152 00:07:57,079 --> 00:07:57,800 have for so long. 153 00:07:58,079 --> 00:08:00,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned, you know, while these people were 154 00:08:00,839 --> 00:08:03,000 doing this, people like Dylan were going out and fighting 155 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,040 the good fight. And even during the COVID lockdown, I mean, 156 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,399 our church was one that locked down, and i I 157 00:08:08,399 --> 00:08:10,600 mean we had, like, you know, people within our church 158 00:08:11,399 --> 00:08:13,920 talk about how it's you know, it's it's nice to 159 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:16,240 wear your face masks because it makes other people feel 160 00:08:16,279 --> 00:08:19,399 comfortable and you know, keep six feet away and yes, 161 00:08:19,519 --> 00:08:21,920 you know, and try to justify you know, at a 162 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:23,639 time when the church should have been open and they weren't. 163 00:08:23,639 --> 00:08:25,920 And that's when really a lot of people were really 164 00:08:25,959 --> 00:08:27,920 motivated to get out, and that's why we see so 165 00:08:27,959 --> 00:08:30,360 many people and there's so much passion right now. But 166 00:08:30,399 --> 00:08:32,799 you make such a good point, because I do feel 167 00:08:32,919 --> 00:08:35,879 like the church kind of accommodated that, not all, but some. 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean they COVID was a great shame 169 00:08:41,639 --> 00:08:43,840 for the church. I mean the fact that the church 170 00:08:43,919 --> 00:08:46,120 is shut down for months and months and months when 171 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:49,960 when people, the sheep Christians needed to be fed, needed fellowship. 172 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,799 It was such a colossal failure. And in a time 173 00:08:54,919 --> 00:08:57,240 when you know, the left is aggressive, the left is 174 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,480 getting their policies, you know, passed, when at a time 175 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,279 when we need people who are bold, people who are 176 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,720 willing to speak the truth in the hostile culture, people 177 00:09:06,759 --> 00:09:11,720 who are willing to fight and win. Evangelicals, especially particularly 178 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,919 our leaders, not necessarily the rank and file, haven't done anything. 179 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: You know. 180 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,879 Speaker 3: A great example. You know, I live in Ohio. 181 00:09:16,919 --> 00:09:18,919 Speaker 4: We had Issue one, which was one of the most 182 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,559 horrific pieces of legislation. It it it legalized abortion up 183 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,159 to the moment of birth for any reason, no questions asked. 184 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,679 In a largely conservative state like Ohio. I was part 185 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 of the pro life movement at the time. Getting pastors 186 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,120 to say anything the pulpit, you know, to to oppose 187 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:39,919 issue one, Getting churches to organize to you know, to 188 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,759 help with voter drives or or attend protests, anything like that. 189 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,960 It was like pulling teeth because pastors, well, you know 190 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,440 that's politics. You know that we're not supposed to be 191 00:09:49,519 --> 00:09:51,639 involved in that. We might lose our tax exemption. There's 192 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,720 this there's this great fear in evangelical churches about doing 193 00:09:55,799 --> 00:09:56,279 any of that. 194 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 3: Not so with the left. 195 00:09:57,519 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 4: You go to a Democrat church, you go to you know, 196 00:09:59,639 --> 00:10:03,159 you know, a black church, they are preaching politics every 197 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:05,639 Sunday from the pulpit. They are getting souls to the polls, 198 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:08,279 they are organizing, and we're just not doing that. And 199 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,480 so I think the Republican Party they started to look for, Okay, 200 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:13,200 we need we need people who are willing to fight, 201 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,480 and evangelicals just don't seem to have the fight in 202 00:10:15,519 --> 00:10:16,080 them anymore. 203 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: I think that's a huge point. We're talking with our 204 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,320 good friend Joel Berry, and I think you're making a 205 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:21,840 point that a lot of people are really scared to 206 00:10:21,879 --> 00:10:24,799 make because nobody wants to look like they're being too 207 00:10:24,799 --> 00:10:27,200 harsh and criticizing the church or criticizing their faith, or 208 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,399 criticizing their elders or anything like that. And I get 209 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,639 that totally. But then at the same time, there are 210 00:10:31,639 --> 00:10:34,000 a lot of people asking, well, where's that representation in 211 00:10:34,039 --> 00:10:37,039 the RNC. You know, the language about traditional marriage and 212 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,320 the language you know, on abortion, and that's I mean, 213 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:40,919 it seems to be like you know, and it is 214 00:10:41,039 --> 00:10:43,559 kind of a pretty moderate, uh you know, write down 215 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,039 the middle position on all of that stuff for this platform. 216 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,639 It's not anything like we've seen prior to Republican RNC platforms. 217 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:54,120 And it's as you said, it's because you know, evangelicals 218 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,240 really remove themselves from that fight. I don't really see 219 00:10:58,279 --> 00:11:00,519 a lot of that activism as much on the right 220 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:02,519 that as I used to see when I was younger. 221 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, and well, I think the good news though, is 222 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,679 that I think the younger generation has mostly rejected that 223 00:11:09,759 --> 00:11:13,240 kind of that weak need evangelicalism of you know, the 224 00:11:13,279 --> 00:11:17,159 last twenty years. I think the bold Christianity and outspoken 225 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,879 Christianity is back. It is sad to kind of see 226 00:11:20,879 --> 00:11:25,200 it being taken out of the official Republican platform, but 227 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:27,120 I think that it's I think it is coming back 228 00:11:27,399 --> 00:11:29,480 in a big way, and I think our voices are 229 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:33,240 going to be much louder, and I think we're in 230 00:11:33,279 --> 00:11:35,039 the next ten years you're going to see Christians being 231 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:37,279 a lot more effective to get some of these political wins. 232 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: Talk to me about this for a minute, about the 233 00:11:39,159 --> 00:11:42,720 idea of that it's you're being a bad Christian if 234 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,399 you're involved in political outreach, because that, if it's not said, 235 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,240 it's definitely intimated in a lot of churches, and I 236 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,039 have so many, so many of our friends in our church. 237 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,759 It's like it's like the dirty thing, like we you know, 238 00:11:54,799 --> 00:11:56,519 people know that I work in politics. It's like a 239 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,279 dirty thing that we just don't talk about in It's 240 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,639 just very odd. What what are your thoughts on that? 241 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,000 How do we overcome that? 242 00:12:04,159 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 3: Well? 243 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,159 Speaker 4: I think part of it is a little bit of 244 00:12:06,159 --> 00:12:08,799 an embarrassment reflex. You know we you know, the nineties 245 00:12:08,799 --> 00:12:10,879 and the eighties we had the moral majority and the 246 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,919 Jerry Folwells, and there's this kind of like, well, we 247 00:12:13,919 --> 00:12:16,200 don't want to be those icky, you know, right wing 248 00:12:16,279 --> 00:12:19,399 Christians and and and so a lot of evangelical leaders 249 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,080 have kind of taken upon this mantle as being like 250 00:12:22,159 --> 00:12:24,759 pr reps for Christianity. We have to be cool, we 251 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,159 have to be kind of, you know, pleasing and winsome, 252 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,879 and we've got to invite people in. We can't be 253 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,559 like those hard nosed Republicans, we can't be like the 254 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,639 Rush Limbaugh types. And so so they kind of just 255 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:39,399 pushed all that aside, and there has been there's a 256 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,279 lot of kind of like passive aggressive, like shaming of 257 00:12:42,759 --> 00:12:46,960 any outspoken Conservatives, outspoken Christians who are involved in politics. 258 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:48,759 And you know, as a result, you're seeing you know, 259 00:12:48,919 --> 00:12:53,720 school boards in largely Christian areas are being populated completely 260 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:57,519 by leftists, you know, city council, local elections. I mean, 261 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,440 we've completely given this up to the left. You know, 262 00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:04,759 the evangelical voters are the most reliable, pro life, pro 263 00:13:04,799 --> 00:13:09,039 family voting voting block. I mean, if churches were to mobilize, 264 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,279 we could make sure that a Republican never lost an 265 00:13:12,279 --> 00:13:16,200 election again. But I think there's there's just been this 266 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:22,039 this overwhelming fear from our leadership, you know, to look 267 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,720 bad to They don't want to look uncool, they don't 268 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:25,480 want to look square. 269 00:13:26,039 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: And it's a bit and it's like a business approach too. 270 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:29,960 I mean, I understand that, you know, you're out there 271 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,679 trying to win souls over, but sometimes maybe and correct 272 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,320 me if I'm wrong on this. Sometimes for me, it 273 00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:37,120 seems like, you know, you have some leaders out there 274 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,200 that are more interested in adding more you know, seats 275 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:45,360 to the corporatized megachurch than actually going out and winning 276 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:46,200 the souls. 277 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they're entrepreneurs now. 278 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,639 Speaker 4: They're trying to get more more butts and seats and 279 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,759 they have one people to their their buildings with you know, 280 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,080 slick programs and cool music and really kind of watered 281 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,000 down sermons that don't really have a lot of death 282 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,360 to them. And they're at the point now where they 283 00:14:02,399 --> 00:14:06,399 have these you know, twenty thousand person churches, a third 284 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,679 of which are are on the left politically, and they 285 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,200 know that if they speak out that they're going to 286 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,080 lose all these people. 287 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 3: What do we do? 288 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: And so I think a lot of it is absolutely 289 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,600 it's money, money motivated, because it's. 290 00:14:18,039 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: Not like people are speaking out on you know, like 291 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,039 just trying to think of you know, like taxes or 292 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,639 something like. I mean, you're talking about life and you're 293 00:14:25,679 --> 00:14:29,799 talking about, you know, the building blocks of a functioning society, 294 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,919 which is a family, that parents, I mean, and a 295 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:34,360 woman start and you know, all of that stuff. I mean, 296 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,679 these they're not controversial things. I mean, it's very biblical, 297 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,639 but they're very nervous to talk about any of this stuff, 298 00:14:41,159 --> 00:14:43,799 and which is weird because the stereotype from the left 299 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,639 is that they're not, but in reality they are. 300 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:47,399 Speaker 3: Yeah. 301 00:14:47,519 --> 00:14:50,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you know, the thing I always tell people 302 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,120 is that Christians are meant to be salt and light. 303 00:14:52,279 --> 00:14:54,720 You know, our presence in the world should make the 304 00:14:54,759 --> 00:14:56,840 world look different. We're not meant to just kind of 305 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,919 sit in our churches in our ivory towers and we 306 00:14:59,039 --> 00:15:01,120 just kind of like listen to our sermons and that's it. 307 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,840 We're supposed to go out and it's supposed to make 308 00:15:03,879 --> 00:15:06,279 a radical difference in our communities and our states and 309 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,559 our countries. And so I hope, I hope that the 310 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,799 tight is turning in Christianity in America. I hope that 311 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,039 we're kind of turning back that fear that we've had 312 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,360 for so long, because we are we're going to lose 313 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,480 our republic, We're going to lose our freedoms if evangelicals 314 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,440 don't start mobilizing. 315 00:15:21,559 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. One last thing. You add, 316 00:15:23,519 --> 00:15:25,159 you want God back in the party. Me too. That 317 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,240 requires you to emerge from your pristine ivy ivory towers 318 00:15:28,519 --> 00:15:31,840 and take your Christian faith into the ugly, messy world 319 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,960 of political action. You add, feel free to join us, 320 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,360 But I won't hold my breath. You don't sound very 321 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:38,360 optimistic there. 322 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:43,679 Speaker 4: I'm naturally a pessimist that way. I'm always something good 323 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,759 happens right right right. I hope it does turn out well, 324 00:15:46,799 --> 00:15:47,399 I hope it does. 325 00:15:47,919 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: And and what do you I mean, do you think 326 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:54,480 that that's gonna what would you like to see? I actually, 327 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:56,279 this will be my last question to you. What would 328 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,080 you like to see with regard to this issue in 329 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,080 the RNC, Because I understand the people. I understand people's 330 00:16:01,279 --> 00:16:03,039 and I completely agree with you one hundred percent on this. 331 00:16:03,679 --> 00:16:06,000 I understand that concern that individuals have. But like you, 332 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,279 I'm like, well, where were you out here fighting for 333 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,559 this or why were you so quiet on this issue? 334 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,120 And it's always like the same groups forever that have 335 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,360 always held the line on issues of life or a 336 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,240 marriage or things like that. And some of the people 337 00:16:18,279 --> 00:16:20,120 that I see speaking out the loudest about this. Now 338 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:22,799 I've noticed we're pretty silent during some of these battles before. 339 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think really, the only thing that's going to 340 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,360 turn this around in a substantive way is going to 341 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,120 be it's going to take radical spiritual revival from the 342 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:33,720 ground up. I think all of us need to repent. 343 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,279 Our leaders, we need repentance, We need repentance. We need 344 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,679 to get back to the basics of what scripture says, 345 00:16:41,799 --> 00:16:44,720 preaching the plain truth of scripture, speaking the plain truth 346 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:48,679 of Scripture to this post truth culture, and living it out. 347 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:51,879 And I think once we do that, I think you'll 348 00:16:51,879 --> 00:16:54,559 start to see this ground swell of change. It's going 349 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,639 to look weird and mysterious, and we're not going to 350 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:58,200 be able to necessarily put our finger on it. But 351 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,080 I think it has to start in the churches with 352 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:05,039 repentance and revival in our hearts and getting back the basis. 353 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,079 Speaker 1: This is you. I keep hearing people say, oh, we're 354 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,119 navigating a post Christian world. I don't know if I'm 355 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,279 ready to adopt that line of thinking yet. Post Christiana. Yeah, 356 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:14,160 I'm not ready to. 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That's k e Ltec Weapons 377 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,640 dot com. It's the P fifteen. Tell them Dana, isn't you. 378 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 2: And now all of the news you would probably miss 379 00:18:16,279 --> 00:18:18,000 it's time for Dana's quick five. 380 00:18:20,759 --> 00:18:23,799 Speaker 1: So another jet Ski was abandoned on a Philly street 381 00:18:24,039 --> 00:18:27,480 with the same name written on its side. What so 382 00:18:27,759 --> 00:18:30,279 a lot of questions because there's abandoned jet skis on 383 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:34,720 the streets of Philly randomly they dumped illegally. One might say, 384 00:18:35,319 --> 00:18:37,680 no one wants your stupid pop up ad and I'm 385 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,279 never going to go to Veil now as a result 386 00:18:39,279 --> 00:18:41,759 of it. Let's see, the second jet Ski was dumped 387 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:45,480 illegally near in the city's northern section, and they said 388 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,480 that both jet skis because the other one was abandoned 389 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,960 in a different like further south on the same street. 390 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,839 Both jet skis had the name Kirby scribbled across the side. 391 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,599 What Kirby And it was in a towaway zone as 392 00:19:00,759 --> 00:19:03,680 the second jet Ski was there until like last night apparently, 393 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,039 and they finally removed it. But yeah, it has Kirby 394 00:19:06,079 --> 00:19:07,480 on the site. What do you think it is? You 395 00:19:07,519 --> 00:19:08,960 were saying that this looks like on marketing. 396 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those viral marketing things where who knows, 397 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,359 maybe is there something coming out with Kirby the actual 398 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,759 video game Curby or something. 399 00:19:16,839 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: Well, the Poof thing, Yeah, I don't know, know that 400 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,039 pink poof. 401 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: It just seems like it would be a marketing thing 402 00:19:22,039 --> 00:19:24,640 where they're getting stories and it's all mysterious and then boom, 403 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:25,599 they're going to drop something. 404 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. Sam's club worker was left bruise after 405 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,880 an angry family attacked her because she would not prepare 406 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,400 two whole pizzas minutes before closing, because that was a 407 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,400 DBAG thing to ask minutes before closing. It was in 408 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,039 an Atlanta suburb Henry County, and the employee was attacked. 409 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,559 She and her coworkers were closing down. A family walked 410 00:19:43,599 --> 00:19:46,200 in two minutes before closing and asked for two pizzas, 411 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,839 two whole pizzas, and they said that When she told 412 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,799 them it was too late to place in order, they 413 00:19:50,839 --> 00:19:53,160 started calling her names. The mother walked behind the counter 414 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:57,200 to the kitchen and punched her in the face. Geez over, 415 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,519 Oh my gosh, I don't even know. Let's see here, 416 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,160 I'm not doing this night's gross. Uh oh, this is 417 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:12,440 the prime day orders. So Amazon delivery partner fired gunshots 418 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,400 in South Philly during an altercation. What is Philly with 419 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,119 the jet skis and this, now, what the hell? During 420 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,359 an altercation with a bus aid, a school bus was 421 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:26,839 full of children there and a delivery partner for Amazon 422 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,920 fired gunshots during an altercation with the school bus aid. 423 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,559 So when they're not running into people and trying to 424 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:35,559 deny accountability, they're firing shots. And yeah, who knew that 425 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,359 the bus driver wasn't able to make a turn because 426 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,400 of a park Amazon van and the bus aid got 427 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,319 out and asked one of the drivers if they could move, 428 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,119 And then apparently the altercation got underway and the guy 429 00:20:46,279 --> 00:20:48,240 got a gun from his Amazon truck and open fire 430 00:20:48,279 --> 00:20:53,079 on the bus driver. I mean, you know, come on, guys, 431 00:20:53,279 --> 00:20:55,720 deep backs out here, stick with us. You know, Biden's 432 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,680 still in office, right, you guys know this, right, He's 433 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,440 still Yeah, guys, he's doing the He's doing the big stuff. 434 00:21:05,519 --> 00:21:10,359 He's focusing on some very important problems right now, important 435 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:19,519 problems that are roiling the nation, and that is plastic cutlery. 436 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,039 In a bid to save the world, the Biden administration 437 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:30,720 is announced a plan to target plastic cutlery across federal departments. 438 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,000 They're taking aim at the climate crisis. It's in all 439 00:21:36,079 --> 00:21:47,079 hands on deck response. So China dumps like actual garbage 440 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,160 and turns into the ocean. Nobody says anything to them. 441 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,119 Chemicals they make their lags pink and toxic. They do 442 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:59,359 all that, they don't care, And the United States says, well, 443 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,519 I guess we should. You're rid of our plastic culery. 444 00:22:01,559 --> 00:22:04,559 That's going to save the world, I said, by an 445 00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:09,720 administration's approach to this, you have to you have to 446 00:22:09,839 --> 00:22:13,079 drink out of a straw that literally dissolves in your 447 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:19,559 mouth and in your drink. So China condemped chemicals in 448 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:23,960 the ocean. I know, by the way, is that not 449 00:22:24,039 --> 00:22:26,799 the worst thing? Ever? When I get my cup and 450 00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:28,640 if there is a paper straw in it, I want 451 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,079 to throw the whole cup at I want to throw it. 452 00:22:31,079 --> 00:22:34,000 It takes everything I have. I want to throw it. 453 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,519 It makes me so it's so And there's dyes on 454 00:22:36,599 --> 00:22:39,200 that damn straw, you notice. And it's always those stripey 455 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,160 stripey straws. That's die, that's die that's going in your 456 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:49,400 drink because it's a stupid paper straw. I can can't 457 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,359 even make words. It makes me so angry. I have uh, 458 00:22:54,519 --> 00:22:58,920 I have a what is it cornstar straw. I would 459 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,839 buy plastic, but they don't make them in these fun 460 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,319 colors like this that I can get on Amazon. Socists. 461 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:04,880 I didn't mean to be good to the earth. I 462 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,160 just don't come on. 463 00:23:06,279 --> 00:23:08,759 Speaker 2: I just the cool thing about those is they eventually 464 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:11,759 do dissolve. But I've left one in a drink just 465 00:23:11,799 --> 00:23:13,519 to see how long it would take for it to dissolve, 466 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,559 and after like two or three days, it still was 467 00:23:15,799 --> 00:23:16,279 a straw. 468 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a straw. So I don't know why people 469 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:20,319 don't do that. It was so easy for me to do, 470 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,839 and they go for those fashioned striped straws. I hate 471 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:27,160 those stupid things because you know that's like toxic dye 472 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,559 on those dumb things too, And it's not all you're drinking, 473 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,640 you're consuming. It's so dumb anyway. So yeah, that's what 474 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,960 he's doing. He's gonna reduce the sale of single use 475 00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:39,799 plastic products on public lands. Well, what are you supposed 476 00:23:39,799 --> 00:23:41,799 to eat with? But if you if you go to 477 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,640 like a museum or something, you go to their little 478 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,359 sitting cafeteria at a park on public land, you think 479 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,880 they're gonna be going out and buying sod. No, it's 480 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,759 gonna you know what, it's gonna be like, what's that place? 481 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:53,640 Medieval times? It's gonna be like medieval times. You gotta 482 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,119 go in. They're just gonna give you turkey like you're 483 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,640 gonna gnawed everything with your hands. That's what they're gonna do. 484 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,440 Can I tell you a story? Sorry about that? By 485 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,960 the way, I legit just heard thunder right now? The 486 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,200 hell is going on in Texas? Are your windows down? 487 00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:10,079 Look at us? We're like, can do you need to go? 488 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:15,599 Roll your windows up? So you've been in medieval times? Right? 489 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,480 That's like the castle where you know, if you're buying 490 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:20,880 medieval times and you've never gone when there wasn't any 491 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,720 in Missouris. When we moved here to Texas, we had 492 00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:27,880 we went twice. You had to go and I you know, 493 00:24:28,079 --> 00:24:31,799 I'm not I'm not gonna prove I always. My husband 494 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:33,799 was like, this kind of bougie Dana because I brought 495 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,759 literally plastic cutlery with me. I've seen people do that, Okay. 496 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,000 My husband was like, why are you doing that? Because 497 00:24:39,319 --> 00:24:42,079 we evolved and invented this stuff. That's what That's why 498 00:24:42,079 --> 00:24:44,319 I'm doing it. Look at this. We don't eat with 499 00:24:44,319 --> 00:24:48,039 our feet and hands anymore because we evolved as a species. 500 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,519 That's why I'm bringing it in. 501 00:24:50,599 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: I've improving my chopstick skills. 502 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: I brought wet ones and everything. I'm like, I could 503 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,480 sit here and just eat this stuff with my hands, 504 00:24:57,519 --> 00:25:00,359 scooping up some taters or whatever, but I doing it. 505 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,519 You know, I'm not gonna do. 506 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: It clean my hands off on my jeans. 507 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, They're like, yeah, well they basically send someone to 508 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,119 lick your hands off with. They don't do that, but yeah, 509 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,799 it's the sobet So I was just like, nope, I'm 510 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:13,319 gonna take care of my business because I came prepared. 511 00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:16,240 My husband could not believe. He looked at me and 512 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,240 he was like, I'm watching you open like the equivalent 513 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,279 of a quick mart here at medieval times. It's like, no, no, no, 514 00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:24,839 there's certain things that I don't do. And it's not 515 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,279 because I'm being bougie or anything like that. Like I 516 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,799 love the outdoors and I love rocks, and I mean 517 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,599 it's like I got to eat dirt or something to 518 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,079 like convince people that I love nature. I love nature. 519 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,160 Who but he do? It's great. I love being outdoors, 520 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,759 but you know what, I also don't like pretending to 521 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:42,880 be homeless. And that's why I don't camp, because we 522 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,440 as humans invented the house, and as as a result, 523 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,680 we stay in them, right, just like we as humans 524 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,000 invented cutlery, and so I will use that. I am 525 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:56,480 not going to throw away. 526 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 5: Generations of achievements of our ancestors by saying no, I 527 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,279 don't want your house or your cutlery gonna pretend to 528 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,960 be without. 529 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm not doing that. I'm just not gonna do it. 530 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:17,119 Sorrys first, but then we invented the house. Mm hmm. 531 00:26:18,039 --> 00:26:20,119 It's like saying, let's go back to the flintstone cars. 532 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,000 Let's pretend for a little bit. Nope, that's okay, I'm good, 533 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:31,759 I'm all right anyway. Biden, Yeah, Well that Biden's he's 534 00:26:31,759 --> 00:26:34,200 gonna solve all the world's problems because he's gonna go 535 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,240 after the plastic forks and we'll fork you. It's not 536 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,400 gonna do anything, not gonna do nothing. I mean, basically, 537 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,839 isn't it gonna just raise costs on people. It's gonna 538 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,000 be like military bases and government workplaces. So instead of 539 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:54,759 maybe here's the thought, instead of trying to reduce the 540 00:26:54,839 --> 00:26:59,279 use of plastic cutlery. Here's that maybe reduce the size 541 00:26:59,319 --> 00:27:06,200 of the federal government. What that sounds like a great idea. 542 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,000 You know, if you have fewer people in government, you 543 00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:15,640 have fewer people using the plastic cutlery. Oh what I know? Amazing, 544 00:27:15,799 --> 00:27:18,119 isn't it that? Thanks for tuning in to today's edition 545 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,160 of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth podcast. 546 00:27:20,319 --> 00:27:22,559 Speaker 2: If you haven't already, made sure to hit that subscribe 547 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:26,319 button on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts.