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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Deplorable Jane and today bringing Mac my

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<v Speaker 1>bestie Westy. Miss Heidi. How are you doing today, darling?

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful, wonderful. I won't use fabulous because you are fabulous everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So I'm super excited to talk about what we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about today. Probably gonna get some people's

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna get the wad, Probably gonna get some hate mail.

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<v Speaker 2>For this, but little bit, little bit of hate butesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, this is purposeful and I want you to really

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<v Speaker 1>think about what we're going to talk about and why

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about it. Because if you are a listener,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're listening to anybody in the quote unquote conspiracy realm, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are one who partakes in a little side

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment as far as mushrooms or weed or any of

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff, but your conspiracy theorist yourself, and you're really

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<v Speaker 1>not on board with pharma. You don't like drugs that

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<v Speaker 1>come from pharma, you don't like the medical industrial complex,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're okay with DNA genetically modified, genetically altered for

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<v Speaker 1>an all time super duper high recreational drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And as far as me, I was super excited

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<v Speaker 2>to do this because this hit my family in an

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<v Speaker 2>extremely personal way. And we'll get to it when we

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<v Speaker 2>get to it. But this is real. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they co opt the drug market.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent, And I can tell you from being

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<v Speaker 1>in the medical field. I have a very good friend

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<v Speaker 1>who was also a podcaster, has been for quite a

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<v Speaker 1>long time. He works in the clinical trial area of pharma.

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<v Speaker 1>They have been working on genetically modified cybucillin drugs to

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<v Speaker 1>market to the public for ten fifteen years or more.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is not new.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want to raid you this little little intro

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<v Speaker 1>because it struck me. Okay, so what if the mushrooms

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<v Speaker 1>you just took didn't come from the forest floor but

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<v Speaker 1>from a lab. What if the cannabis you smoked wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>grown under the sun, but fermented in a tank of

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<v Speaker 1>genetically modified yeast. Gross We're going to dive into a

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<v Speaker 1>topic that's futuristic as it is agent DNA altered drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>from mushrooms to marijuana to lab made LSD. The biotech

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<v Speaker 1>broom or boom is rewriting what we think of as

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<v Speaker 1>quote natural substances. But here's the dark side who owns

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<v Speaker 1>this medicine? As we're creating a future where big Pharma

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<v Speaker 1>patents the spirit of mushrooms, where ancient plant allies are

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<v Speaker 1>stripped of their culture, their consciousness replaced with sterile lab versions.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about that for just a moment, and how

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<v Speaker 1>these things are studied. Do we have long term safety

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<v Speaker 1>and efficacy studies on these mutated strands that have been

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<v Speaker 1>made mainstream for everyone? Are there studies that show what

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<v Speaker 1>it does to the brain or what it does to

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<v Speaker 1>the body over a long period of time?

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<v Speaker 3>The answer is no.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you wouldn't take a drug from big Pharma

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<v Speaker 1>that hasn't been tested, why would you take the recreational

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<v Speaker 1>version that also has not been tested well?

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<v Speaker 2>And the person that pushed recreational mushrooms, I would say

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<v Speaker 2>the explosion anyway of pushing of mushrooms was Andrea Poohaic

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<v Speaker 2>and Andrea Poohrrick in nineteen fifty nine published a book

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<v Speaker 2>called The Sacred Mushroom, and it became this very woo

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<v Speaker 2>woo hippie blah blah blah. Bye, just fyi, Cia, just fyi.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford research in Jmudra.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting connection there.

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<v Speaker 2>It's always like that, who was.

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<v Speaker 1>It that ran all of these psychological experiments on our

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<v Speaker 1>population with LSD and all of those kind of things.

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<v Speaker 2>The Grateful Dead? Oh no, jk.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, probably part two. But but they've been a

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<v Speaker 1>part of that history for a long time. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know who all works in those three letter agencies.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know how far the tentacles reach, but they've

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<v Speaker 1>made it to the point, especially with marijuana farming, right

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't get it in your neighbor's backyard anymore. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to get it from a licensed grower. And

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<v Speaker 1>you you know that's the thing, and so there is

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<v Speaker 1>no I call it skunk weed whatever people have.

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<v Speaker 3>In wag or whatever it used to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was literally only one strand back in the day, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we have altered that to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where they use crisper CAST nine technology, which is basically

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<v Speaker 1>genetic scissors. And what it does you use it to

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<v Speaker 1>cut out whatever part you don't want to replace it

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<v Speaker 1>with something that you do. So for people who don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand that, think about this. Dog breeders started using this

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<v Speaker 1>crisper technology, and say you had a breed of dog

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<v Speaker 1>like a German shepherd that it was common for them

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<v Speaker 1>to have hip dysplasia. They would genetically alter that piece

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<v Speaker 1>of DEE. They would cut out that piece and replace

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<v Speaker 1>it with new DNA. So you're merging two types of DNA.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like merging humans with mice or cows or dogs

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So they're replacing this particular part on the

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<v Speaker 1>German shepherd so that it breeds a stronger breed of dog.

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<v Speaker 1>They're doing the exact same thing with mushrooms, so cybacillin

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<v Speaker 1>and the other types of mushrooms that they grow different

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<v Speaker 1>strands of marijuana, And what they're doing is to lengthen

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of THHC you find in the plant length,

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<v Speaker 1>in the amount of the length of the time for

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<v Speaker 1>the high all of these things through genetic mutation. And

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<v Speaker 1>what are they using to genetically modify these plants with

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<v Speaker 1>is my question.

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<v Speaker 2>And it went in the nineties just for people. No,

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<v Speaker 2>there's numbers behind what Janet is saying. In nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>the average joint had three point five percent THHC and

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<v Speaker 2>now it has over sixteen percent, upwards of twenty percent,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was in twenty twenty. They're not even telling

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<v Speaker 2>us anymore, that's five years ago. That's I was gonna say.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to guarantee you it's more than that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you and I talked about this before, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Quite a while ago.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter was like, you never do this with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Take one hit And I'm like, no, that's not my thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't like it, don't want to. She kept on, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, one hit. It literally paralyzed me. It

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<v Speaker 1>was not a pleasant high. I could not move my

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<v Speaker 1>arms or legs. I could not get up, I could

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<v Speaker 1>not stand. And so if you think about like we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about before, that there's no one size fits all

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<v Speaker 1>as far as diet or treatment regimens or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're making these uber strong strands that are available

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<v Speaker 1>to the public or in brownie form and gummy form,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, joint form, whatever. And so how that affects

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<v Speaker 1>each percentage of the population that's not known either, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not tested. And so is it like the street drugs

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<v Speaker 1>where they have made like you know, fentanyl and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, where it is so strong that literally one

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<v Speaker 1>dose could actually kill someone.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And and why would they think of it this way? Guys?

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<v Speaker 2>Number one? And why would a drug dealer want to

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<v Speaker 2>kill the person that buys from them, right, that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>not the drug dealer. Sorry, I say, this is all

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<v Speaker 2>co opted. And if if you don't know that, you

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<v Speaker 2>might want to look at Vietnam and what that was

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<v Speaker 2>really about, because it wasn't about what they told you.

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<v Speaker 2>It was about an opium or you know, other drugs

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<v Speaker 2>have been at the heart of a lot of this

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<v Speaker 2>for as long as time has been. But we see

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<v Speaker 2>these things taken over and we saw it with you know,

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<v Speaker 2>fake weed that came out that was super dangerous and poisonous.

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<v Speaker 2>We see this all the time, introduced and controlled into society.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy three letter agencies, sorry to say, and everybody buys it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, why And that's the thing that's like in

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<v Speaker 1>the opening when we talked about, yeah, you don't trust pharma,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't trust the government, but you trust this which

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<v Speaker 1>is still made by pharma by the government. Because natural

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<v Speaker 1>herbal plant growth has been co opted and genetically modified

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<v Speaker 1>being used. Even when you were talking about opium, they

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<v Speaker 1>are also growing opium in a lab in peatri dishes

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<v Speaker 1>so that they don't ever have to use the poppy.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're using mold fungus, and God only knows what else.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they use the scum off of sewage plants

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<v Speaker 1>to make spices. So how healthy is that for the

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<v Speaker 1>human body? And what does that do to us?

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<v Speaker 2>And even if you say I do it myself, I

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<v Speaker 2>grow it myself. Cool story, bro, where'd you get the seed?

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<v Speaker 2>Where'd you get the seeds? Because if you got the

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<v Speaker 2>seeds from some kind of you know, like legal way,

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<v Speaker 2>it is not a seed you think it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and you can get arrested for growing it because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a license.

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<v Speaker 3>That's regulated by who the government, Yes, the government is

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<v Speaker 3>the one.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we have like Congress people who are investing

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<v Speaker 1>in weight growers and.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know that there's dark, dirty money involved

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<v Speaker 1>if if our own quote unquote elected selected however you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it, officials are taking out stock or

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<v Speaker 1>buying into weight growers or mushroom growers or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and the fact that we know, you know, Laurel Canyon,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't kidding about the Grateful Dead. You know, this

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<v Speaker 2>was co opted. This was a big experiment on people.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you think that the government wouldn't do that

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<v Speaker 2>to you, you might want to look at some history

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<v Speaker 2>there because they would.

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<v Speaker 3>And what was it.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was Operation Midnight, Yes, that the CIA

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<v Speaker 1>ran where they were taking like hookers off of the

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<v Speaker 1>street and giving them like LSD and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they would bring a john back to a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel that had like the two way thing where they

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<v Speaker 1>could watch and so the hooker would give the john

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<v Speaker 1>the tainted LSD and watch the effects and stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>how many of these because we know all throughout our

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<v Speaker 1>history they've done all kinds of crazy ass psychological experiments

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<v Speaker 1>on our people right in different forms or another, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them involve drugs. So can you imagine

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<v Speaker 1>mass scale with the surveillance techniques that they have nowadays,

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<v Speaker 1>how many people they are actually surveilling under a new

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<v Speaker 1>experimentation that they're running and people in fact, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't even know they're being experimented.

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<v Speaker 2>On the fact that they legalized it. It just shows

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<v Speaker 2>you what their hand was like. Okay, yes, I understand

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<v Speaker 2>that this can help people. I'm not completely against it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying we're going to talk about some really

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<v Speaker 2>severe side effects for overuse. Misuse. It's like anything take

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<v Speaker 2>too much benegerl and see what happened. Righty, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>a good day. Okay, Like we could talk about even

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<v Speaker 2>add like all these things that can kill you, but

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<v Speaker 2>people are notorious for one as good. Twenty is better

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<v Speaker 2>and I need it, so I'm going to take it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's just you know, sometimes we have to even

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<v Speaker 2>look at the receptors. Like me and Janet we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this. You know, you can only feed so much

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<v Speaker 2>into your system. Yet you will see people consistently constantly

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<v Speaker 2>be either smoking or having something in your mouth. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>you guys need to look up oral fixation. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>real thing. It is, so many people have it. If

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<v Speaker 2>you bite your nails, you're orally fixated. If you bite

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<v Speaker 2>your tongue or or grind your teeth or whatever, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>The inside of your mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not like you're some kind but just something. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to work with what we have. We can't

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<v Speaker 2>You're not going to most likely break the habit. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be very, very extremely conscious of your

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, man, you know I get it now always but

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<v Speaker 2>right yeah, I'm always twisting my hair, fidgeting with my

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<v Speaker 2>I am the epitome of all of those things. But

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<v Speaker 2>we have to find a less harmful thing because if

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like drinking, right Like you can't just be

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<v Speaker 1>their own thing. But like these things have been used

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<v Speaker 1>for centuries right in are euvedic medicine and things like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they use like ayahuasca and ceremonies, peyote. The

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<v Speaker 3>But they were done.

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<v Speaker 1>In in agent healing rituals, right, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>things to heal like Indian cultures and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did a lot of these things, Sweat lodges and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>where they use certain substances or even herbs can be

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<v Speaker 1>So when you genetically alter something that occurs naturally, are

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<v Speaker 2>And are we.

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<v Speaker 1>Co opting ancient ceremonies that were done for for healing

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<v Speaker 1>of mind, body, and spirit. Are we co opting that

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<v Speaker 1>to now use it as an instant gratification and a

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<v Speaker 2>Abstely And they've done this with things that aren't even

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<v Speaker 2>a feel good thing. They've done with with scopalamine. They've

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<v Speaker 2>done this with weird things that you're like, why are

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<v Speaker 2>they doing that? Right? Like why is the CIA involved

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<v Speaker 2>in a scopalamine study in the middle of Barunda Agana

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<v Speaker 2>something like that? Like right, Look, they've been playing with

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And for people who don't know, like scopolamine are

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<v Speaker 1>little tiny patches that they put like behind your ear

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff back in the day. They would give them

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<v Speaker 1>Their short term usage. It's not meant to be a

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<v Speaker 1>long term thing. But because of the benefits that they

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<v Speaker 1>saw from treading motion sickness. Heidie's right, they were using

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<v Speaker 1>this and altering it for a high and what can

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<v Speaker 1>we get people to snort this? And people were doing it,

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<v Speaker 1>which I don't understand, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It stops your memories. I mean, like this is the

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<v Speaker 2>now of the ketamine craze, right right right. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying there's not a time and place, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that. I am saying you have to use

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<v Speaker 2>the brain that you have, because if you don't, you

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<v Speaker 2>may not have that anymore. I'm being serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's true, and what you said is spot on,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially with using not just pharmaceuticals but these kind

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<v Speaker 1>of things as well, and without there being long term

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<v Speaker 1>studies on you know what it does to the human body,

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<v Speaker 1>because you can do all the studies you want in

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<v Speaker 1>rats or mice or whatever, and they're known to be

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<v Speaker 1>carcinogens or neurotoxic or whatever. Oh, but you know, humans

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<v Speaker 1>are bigger, so it must be okay, we'll go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and use it. It's generally accepted as safe, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>the grass standard.

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<v Speaker 2>And why on earth did they know? They knew these things?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is extremely personal to me. This is why

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<v Speaker 2>me and Janet started having this discussion, is because I

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<v Speaker 2>shared with her and my step son has given me

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<v Speaker 2>the go ahead to go and share this story. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, underneath a ser age, which is twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>most of the time women sometimes their brain is fully

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<v Speaker 2>developed a little earlier, but twenty five is the gold standard.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you do this at an early age, you

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<v Speaker 2>can have a serious risk, especially now with the concentration

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<v Speaker 2>of the weed that we're talking about, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>into psychosis. And I'm going to tell you, guys, this

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<v Speaker 2>happened to my son and he did not come out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And I'm not talking about for a week

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<v Speaker 2>or a day or a month. It took over a

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<v Speaker 2>year and he had to be institutionalized. And I was

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<v Speaker 2>finally the one, which I was scared to death to

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<v Speaker 2>do this because I didn't want to say anything. But

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<v Speaker 2>he wasn't home, like, he wasn't showering, he wasn't he

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<v Speaker 2>wore the same shirt for a full year, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure you watched it occasionally, or maybe he didn't. I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really know changed. He was a vibrant, brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>and when I say brilliant, I mean top of his

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<v Speaker 2>class in a gifted program, and just super smart, played hockey.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just super good at all these things. Anything

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<v Speaker 2>he's ever tried to do, boom, he can just do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the saddest thing I've ever seen, let

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<v Speaker 2>alone my husband. He didn't even know what to do

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<v Speaker 2>with that. If I hadn't been a nurse that's involved

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<v Speaker 2>in mental health, I'm scared that he wouldn't have got

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<v Speaker 2>the treatment he needed because just not because his parents

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<v Speaker 2>didn't love him or whatever, they just didn't understand what

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<v Speaker 2>was happening right at all. Yeah, And so finally when

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<v Speaker 2>we did figure out like this is because we could

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<v Speaker 2>not figure it out, because I mean, it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>little weed. Who cares, right, It's just a little weed.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he took mushrooms a couple of times on

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<v Speaker 2>the weekends and he was still had this high dose

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<v Speaker 2>of THHC. He was a chronics poker of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was it. Everybody says he had you been doing

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<v Speaker 2>acid or something, and I'm like, no, there are studies

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<v Speaker 2>about this, and he is still to this day he

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<v Speaker 2>goes to like AA and everything because of weed, and

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<v Speaker 2>people can laugh all day long. I don't care like

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<v Speaker 2>it ruined his life. It ruined his life. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>even talking like it was like he was watching TV

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<v Speaker 2>with no TV, like really involved in a something, and

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<v Speaker 2>just whoop, he was gone. And so we were.

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<v Speaker 1>Like almost kind of like, let me ask you this

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<v Speaker 1>just to clarify for people. So was it almost like

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<v Speaker 1>he was having like vocal seizures?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yes, he was so checked out that it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>You would almost have to shake him like you do

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<v Speaker 2>with people that have those. And it was really scary

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<v Speaker 2>knowing now what I know that this actually causes for

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<v Speaker 2>certain people. Like maybe you're the lucky person that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have this or whatever, but there are a certain percentage,

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<v Speaker 2>especially of teenagers. And they know this and have known

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<v Speaker 2>this since the sixties by doing actual IV testing with

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<v Speaker 2>marijuana to do like these huge doses, and so they've

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<v Speaker 2>known this for a while that this really affects the youth,

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<v Speaker 2>especially boys, and so they knew that it can bring

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<v Speaker 2>on really intense schizophrenia and or bipolar and or cause it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right like, but but how beneficial is that.

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<v Speaker 1>Knowing that they know this because they've ran the experiments,

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<v Speaker 1>is doctor Prouchi, So they knowingly did this and then

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<v Speaker 1>they target who they target kids. It's a fun, fun

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<v Speaker 1>recreational drug, right and then what are they doing. They're

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<v Speaker 1>creating more life and legalize it lifelong pharma customers. Because

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<v Speaker 1>this damaged your brain cells so bad, because it's disrupted

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<v Speaker 1>the neural pathways in your brain. The synapses aren't firing

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<v Speaker 1>like they're supposed to. The the myelener that are protecting

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<v Speaker 1>your you know, your synaptic sheets, those are degenerating. And

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<v Speaker 1>so what you get bipolar, you get schizophrena, you get

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<v Speaker 1>all of these brain disorders that are only what treatable

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<v Speaker 1>by big pharma drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, well, and it's a lifelong commitment to farma hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>and you've got studies that pro this. So for people

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<v Speaker 2>that think we're just absolutely full of it. The Danish

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<v Speaker 2>study that they did on cannabis use disorders like this

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<v Speaker 2>where they've gone and had these problems come out of

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<v Speaker 2>it with youth, they did over thirteen million people that

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<v Speaker 2>they tested. So this wasn't a small study.

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<v Speaker 3>This is definitely not a United States type study.

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<v Speaker 2>No, Nope, Danish. It went from three point seven percent

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<v Speaker 2>in the typical before you know, to ten point three

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<v Speaker 2>percent for actual long term serious mental disorders. There's also

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<v Speaker 2>another one in Canada eleveny teens. It showed the significant

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<v Speaker 2>increase of risk of psychiatric disorders mainly normally bipolar and

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<v Speaker 2>schizophrenia at like a serious level, not like a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>It went from it went from that to elevenfold for teenagers. Elevenfold.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and why it's that because teenagers brains are still

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<v Speaker 1>trying to develop, and so especially when you're inserting a

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<v Speaker 1>substance that messes with those neural pathways and the pathways

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<v Speaker 1>are still trying to form.

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<v Speaker 3>What does that do.

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<v Speaker 1>It stops that, It shuts off that growth, It inhibits

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<v Speaker 1>it completely, so that you're relying on this and then

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<v Speaker 1>it's like anything, right, you can't have just one pringle.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to eat the whole hands. So you can't

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<v Speaker 1>have just one joint and be happy. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to continually up your dosage. And I think that's why

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<v Speaker 1>we have so many people that we know today who

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<v Speaker 1>literally like every five minutes, they have to be doing

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<v Speaker 1>that because that's the only way that they quote unquote

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<v Speaker 1>feel the effects is if they're continually smoking.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and then you see them not treat This is

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<v Speaker 2>the other bad part. Trying to get him help for

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<v Speaker 2>weed addiction, right was the nightmare thing. Right, No, And

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<v Speaker 2>so they they basically laughed at us, us everywhere we

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<v Speaker 2>would talk to them, but he was literally suffering and

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<v Speaker 2>still craving that. And they have proven that even jama

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<v Speaker 2>studies at this point have proven and this I have

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually American medicine. Oh sorry, yep, I always forget

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<v Speaker 2>that they have proven that an increase in your cannabis use,

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<v Speaker 2>so increased dose like this, higher amount, increase risk immediate.

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<v Speaker 2>They've even correlated it and they still allow it. Look,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't let kids drink for a reason, do they

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<v Speaker 2>do it? Yeah? But this has looked at so differently,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, the way he got it was through

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<v Speaker 2>a family member, and that that family member did not

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<v Speaker 2>ever I'm sure think that this would be any big

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<v Speaker 2>deal because it's just a little weed, right, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, just a little weed to call your nerves or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to I'm going to throw this out

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<v Speaker 1>there because the people that I talk to on a

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<v Speaker 1>regular basis, especially people with addiction, this becomes their favorite crutch.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't create without it, I can't think without it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't xyz without it. So you are automatically having

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<v Speaker 1>that one hundred percent craving control in your brain telling

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<v Speaker 1>you your subconscious is saying you basically cannot function or

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<v Speaker 1>do anything without me, So you have to use me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're anxious, use me. Oh you're sick, use me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you don't you know you are eating too much,

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00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.240
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to eat at all, Oh you're whatever, whatever, whatever.

421
00:29:50.160 --> 00:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>It's always an excuse because it shuts off that common

422
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.839
<v Speaker 1>sense that comes from your neural pathways.

423
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:04.480
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and they want you to believe that and let

424
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<v Speaker 2>alone your emotional or for me, you know, like outside

425
00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>sources of attacks. Like I'm Christian, so I believe that

426
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:18.799
<v Speaker 2>it opens up just like alcohol. I'm not demonizing one

427
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.039
<v Speaker 2>over the other, and I'm saying, yeah, I don't drink ever,

428
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't smoke pot because it makes me psychotic. I

429
00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 2>tried it twice, and twice was good enough for me

430
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>to say, Yep, that's not for me. That for me,

431
00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.079
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to go to the hospital, you know, like

432
00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.160
<v Speaker 2>it was that bad and it doesn't matter for me,

433
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.559
<v Speaker 2>like when I ate it or smoked it whatever. Psychotic,

434
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>complete psychosist. So is that because I have PTSD and

435
00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 2>people need to know that if you have these certain things,

436
00:30:51.039 --> 00:30:53.160
<v Speaker 2>they think, like you said, that's going to help them.

437
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes it doesn't.

438
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 3>Right, And why is that?

439
00:30:57.359 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Because especially people that do like the ayahuasca ceremonies and

440
00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Right, speaking of other entities entering your body.

441
00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 1>So when Native Americans were using this in ceremonies in

442
00:31:17.359 --> 00:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>the sweat lodges and stuff, it is literally to talk

443
00:31:21.519 --> 00:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>to their ancestors or to get guidance from ancestor type people.

444
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Ayahuasca ceremonies are sold to the public as ceremonies that

445
00:31:35.440 --> 00:31:42.880
<v Speaker 1>will open you up, right, open up your personality and

446
00:31:43.079 --> 00:31:48.599
<v Speaker 1>reveal what your purpose is. Okay, So think about that

447
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:56.839
<v Speaker 1>ancient times talking to relatives now opening you up to

448
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:02.319
<v Speaker 1>reveal whatever. So when we're at our weakest, whether it's

449
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:09.079
<v Speaker 1>during one of these ceremonies, whether we're emotionally unwell for

450
00:32:09.319 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>other circumstances, whatever it is, that is when you are

451
00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>more susceptible to an attack from a spiritual enemy.

452
00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 2>So they call them familiar spirits. Why do they call

453
00:32:23.880 --> 00:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>them that? And they look like your grandma?

454
00:32:26.559 --> 00:32:31.559
<v Speaker 1>And why is that though? Because Satan is a trickster, right,

455
00:32:32.680 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And so dark entities, demons, whatever you want to call them,

456
00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:41.000
<v Speaker 1>will do the same thing. They'll take the shape of

457
00:32:41.079 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 1>something you know that you know that you love. It's

458
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:51.079
<v Speaker 1>a tiger, it's you know whatever. And these things attached

459
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to you during your weakest time. And those things are

460
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.160
<v Speaker 1>very very difficult to get rid of of.

461
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 2>Ye because you invited them in, Yeah you did.

462
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:08.680
<v Speaker 3>It's like, what is it like?

463
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>You can't like a demon can't get you if you

464
00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:16.519
<v Speaker 1>don't open the door, right, And that's the same kind

465
00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 1>of situation. So in this state, you're very vulnerable. You

466
00:33:21.480 --> 00:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>have all kinds of emotions and things flying around. So

467
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:30.240
<v Speaker 1>think about a patient like Heidi said, that has PTSD

468
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.680
<v Speaker 1>from war or you know, whatever the situation may be.

469
00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 1>You put them in this state, what do you think

470
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:44.359
<v Speaker 1>that is going to do to their psyche?

471
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and you've got to do it again and again

472
00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>and again to keep it then at bay because now

473
00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.839
<v Speaker 2>you've lit this. I mean, I had a really good.

474
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 3>Third time bomb.

475
00:33:55.920 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And he told me, like, luckily, he said, if

476
00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:04.680
<v Speaker 2>you are happy, if you have repressed your memories and

477
00:34:04.799 --> 00:34:08.039
<v Speaker 2>you are not being affected by them at all, you're

478
00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.599
<v Speaker 2>not having unknown anxiety attacks for no reason or whatever

479
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 2>this thing is. Because I couldn't remember my childhood a

480
00:34:15.679 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of it. But the stuff I do remember isn't good.

481
00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 2>And he said, if you don't, if you remember that,

482
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I hate to know what you blocked out. And he's like,

483
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:28.320
<v Speaker 2>if it's not affecting your daily life, go, I will

484
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.719
<v Speaker 2>treat you if you want, but you open it up

485
00:34:30.840 --> 00:34:33.559
<v Speaker 2>and it's there forever, that's all. Now you have to

486
00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:37.679
<v Speaker 2>deal with this and so. And I know there's controversies.

487
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.840
<v Speaker 2>Some people say you can't move on really and truly

488
00:34:39.960 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>until you figure it out, deal with it, forgive the all.

489
00:34:42.920 --> 00:34:46.320
<v Speaker 3>That right, until you confront the issue.

490
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's a thing with PTSD, especially for military veterans,

491
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:58.880
<v Speaker 1>people from home invasions, stuff like that. And it's not

492
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:04.679
<v Speaker 1>necessarily like you going and confronting your enemy or the

493
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>person that was trying to shoot you or whatever. It's

494
00:35:08.880 --> 00:35:15.199
<v Speaker 1>confronting the situation and realizing that in your current state

495
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you are safe, that situation is done. It's over with.

496
00:35:21.719 --> 00:35:24.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, we brought it up, we saw the memory.

497
00:35:24.239 --> 00:35:26.480
<v Speaker 1>But where am I at right now in the space

498
00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:27.079
<v Speaker 1>that I'm at.

499
00:35:27.119 --> 00:35:27.840
<v Speaker 2>Am I safe?

500
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:29.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm safe?

501
00:35:30.000 --> 00:35:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Then I can let go of that memory because

502
00:35:32.639 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 1>it happened, it's over, it's in the past, and I'm

503
00:35:35.320 --> 00:35:36.159
<v Speaker 1>safe now.

504
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Right, But if you don't have any symptoms, right, like

505
00:35:41.239 --> 00:35:44.800
<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't remember. And so he's like, honestly, you

506
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:47.239
<v Speaker 2>have to make that decision whether you want to have

507
00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:49.119
<v Speaker 2>to deal with this because it could ruin your life.

508
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:53.599
<v Speaker 1>He was right, and stuff like that. Repressed memories are

509
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:55.599
<v Speaker 1>super uber painful.

510
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:59.159
<v Speaker 2>And why do you do that unless you need to

511
00:35:59.199 --> 00:36:03.760
<v Speaker 2>do that because you're going through unexplained pts, unexplained you're

512
00:36:03.760 --> 00:36:07.239
<v Speaker 2>having all these problems. Then yes to that, But why

513
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:10.280
<v Speaker 2>open a can of worms? Like he said that you've

514
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.320
<v Speaker 2>obviously protected yourself from Do you really feel it's that

515
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:17.360
<v Speaker 2>necessary to remember going to the zu at ten or something?

516
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>You know? Like right, I waited out. He gave me

517
00:36:21.960 --> 00:36:25.559
<v Speaker 2>the option, and I definitely decided against it because I

518
00:36:25.599 --> 00:36:29.599
<v Speaker 2>don't want to retraumatize myself where I'm not currently experiencing

519
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:31.519
<v Speaker 2>a thing. If I do in the future, then I will,

520
00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, but we don't want to do these things

521
00:36:35.000 --> 00:36:36.239
<v Speaker 2>at home. Yeah.

522
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:41.239
<v Speaker 1>No, A lot of times those repressed memories will come

523
00:36:41.360 --> 00:36:46.239
<v Speaker 1>up when they need to write, and not necessarily when

524
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:49.800
<v Speaker 1>when we want them to or when they we think

525
00:36:49.840 --> 00:36:54.360
<v Speaker 1>they should or whatever. But most people, they're the main goal.

526
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Getting somebody over PTSD or any kind of trauma like

527
00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:04.960
<v Speaker 1>is helping them to realize that they are safe and

528
00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't have to live as a victim. So if

529
00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you have somebody, especially veterans and stuff, because there's a

530
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:20.840
<v Speaker 1>huge push to use you know, genetically modified mushrooms and

531
00:37:20.920 --> 00:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>whatever and microdose and where you have to do this

532
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:28.000
<v Speaker 1>every day and blah blah blah. Not saying that it

533
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 1>can't be beneficial for some right, but at the same time,

534
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:38.760
<v Speaker 1>no treatment is good for everybody. And if you have

535
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to be on something like this the rest of your life,

536
00:37:45.480 --> 00:37:50.320
<v Speaker 1>what is safer to your organs? Right, it's at long

537
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:56.519
<v Speaker 1>term dosing with DNA crisper altered stuff that we haven't

538
00:37:56.599 --> 00:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>studied to know what the long term effects are or

539
00:38:00.480 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>is it dealing with whatever emotional trauma it was or

540
00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:11.760
<v Speaker 1>physical trauma was and getting past that safety marker.

541
00:38:12.159 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 2>Well and The fact is is like when you look

542
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.199
<v Speaker 2>at this stuff, this is highly there's no control over it.

543
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Right as far as the illegal part, yes, there's control

544
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 2>in pharmaceuticals. But where do they get it? Do they know?

545
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.679
<v Speaker 2>Do they even know? You know? Are they co opted

546
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.199
<v Speaker 2>into the same type of government situation you know? And

547
00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:35.880
<v Speaker 2>are they getting this from growers that might hate you,

548
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:38.599
<v Speaker 2>like in another country that hates us, you know?

549
00:38:38.760 --> 00:38:41.679
<v Speaker 1>And think about that because like we had talked about

550
00:38:42.679 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 1>when we talked about the Pharmact, stuff about generic medications

551
00:38:48.360 --> 00:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and how little of a percentage of the active ingredient

552
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:57.760
<v Speaker 1>that has to be in it. Where are ninety percent

553
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:05.280
<v Speaker 1>of our generics make overseas China? And so it's no

554
00:39:05.519 --> 00:39:10.599
<v Speaker 1>different when with situations like this where they're using fungus

555
00:39:10.840 --> 00:39:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and molds and stuff like that. They literally you can

556
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:25.199
<v Speaker 1>buy stuff like that over the internet coming from India, China, Afghanistan, whatever,

557
00:39:26.320 --> 00:39:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and then they're growing it here or you know, mass

558
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:35.440
<v Speaker 1>producing it here from something and a source they don't

559
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>know anything about.

560
00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:39.639
<v Speaker 3>It's I dare say, in our pharmac system.

561
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:42.599
<v Speaker 2>I dare say, this is why they won't pass They

562
00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:46.280
<v Speaker 2>passed the drug laws state to state, but they don't

563
00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:48.800
<v Speaker 2>allow it federally because they know they'll get their ass

564
00:39:48.800 --> 00:39:51.320
<v Speaker 2>suit off because in bringing it in.

565
00:39:53.079 --> 00:39:56.239
<v Speaker 1>But it's no, it's no different than like you said before,

566
00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Like the Vietnam War is not what it was sold

567
00:39:59.000 --> 00:40:02.800
<v Speaker 1>as they have pigs.

568
00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Why did they want a panamal canal thing?

569
00:40:05.960 --> 00:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>It was about drugs, like all of these things have

570
00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:13.719
<v Speaker 1>been about drugs. The war in Afghanistan was about drugs,

571
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:18.199
<v Speaker 1>Like all all of these things were about drugs. And

572
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:24.039
<v Speaker 1>either we are trying to take somebody's drug supply or

573
00:40:24.119 --> 00:40:28.280
<v Speaker 1>we are trying to supply our drugs to someone else.

574
00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're the real drug lords. You want to know

575
00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.119
<v Speaker 2>who is the real drug lords? Just look up any

576
00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.199
<v Speaker 2>three lettering exactly.

577
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Government.

578
00:40:39.559 --> 00:40:40.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh boy.

579
00:40:40.280 --> 00:40:45.760
<v Speaker 1>But it's like and that's why they're so heavily involved

580
00:40:45.800 --> 00:40:50.159
<v Speaker 1>in this and so heavily involved in in the altering

581
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and the crisper technology and stuff. Like I said, Congress

582
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:58.400
<v Speaker 1>are doing all their giant buy ins and buying stock

583
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:02.760
<v Speaker 1>and all these companies and you know, making it so

584
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:09.280
<v Speaker 1>it's okay for all of these you know, grow places

585
00:41:09.320 --> 00:41:16.599
<v Speaker 1>to pop up. But what kind of regulatory action or

586
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 1>oversight is there for these facilities?

587
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And what if you get some crazy you

588
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:29.280
<v Speaker 2>know guy like a little short Italian name with an

589
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.360
<v Speaker 2>F that likes to kill puppies. That's making your stuff. Like,

590
00:41:33.480 --> 00:41:37.880
<v Speaker 2>let's be honest here right, like what is happening? Yeah,

591
00:41:38.280 --> 00:41:41.599
<v Speaker 2>that's scary to me, Like the fact that we don't know.

592
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:43.800
<v Speaker 2>And people say, well, I know because I get it

593
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>from the pharmacy or I know because I grow up myself.

594
00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:49.639
<v Speaker 2>Where did the seeds come from? Please answer me? Answer

595
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:54.599
<v Speaker 2>me where you don't know? And as far as mushrooms go, hey,

596
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>if you want to go get them yourself, they're under

597
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.760
<v Speaker 2>cow patties. You knock yourself out. But I'm telling you

598
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:01.840
<v Speaker 2>that it's not what it is anymore. And then you

599
00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.760
<v Speaker 2>have to question, were these like dropped by like you know.

600
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:09.559
<v Speaker 3>Before with the.

601
00:42:09.599 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 2>Air but they poisoned to mosquitoes to come get us,

602
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:14.960
<v Speaker 2>so get real.

603
00:42:15.400 --> 00:42:19.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, and they've done that with like Operation Sea

604
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Spray and stuff like that where they're actually spraying you know,

605
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:27.559
<v Speaker 1>particulates with red matter particulates.

606
00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:28.840
<v Speaker 3>I won't say what it was, but.

607
00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Spraying stuff like that to see how it affects the population.

608
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 3>So could it did.

609
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Recently in the New York subways for people that don't

610
00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:41.559
<v Speaker 2>know I can't remember the project name, but it's it

611
00:42:41.719 --> 00:42:44.039
<v Speaker 2>happened and they just went sorry about it.

612
00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's that's why like when I ask about

613
00:42:50.199 --> 00:42:56.079
<v Speaker 1>what regulatory oversight do we have on on these facilities

614
00:42:56.159 --> 00:43:01.599
<v Speaker 1>that the government is allowing? Why centure two right, because

615
00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:05.880
<v Speaker 1>you know it's going to be selective licensure not everybody

616
00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:06.519
<v Speaker 1>can get one.

617
00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just do they approve?

618
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>And then what do they There's no laws governing it,

619
00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:22.559
<v Speaker 1>so nobody's watching out for anything. So are they or

620
00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:26.519
<v Speaker 1>is it possible that there might even be using these

621
00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>things as bioweapons?

622
00:43:30.039 --> 00:43:35.320
<v Speaker 2>They definitely are using these things to their their money,

623
00:43:35.480 --> 00:43:38.039
<v Speaker 2>their pockets and to their advantage. And a lot of

624
00:43:38.079 --> 00:43:40.440
<v Speaker 2>them use drugs, but they don't use the same ones

625
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:43.320
<v Speaker 2>you use. Believe it. I think no way. And if

626
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.840
<v Speaker 2>you guys want to learn about it, read the Rockefeller

627
00:43:46.119 --> 00:43:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Commission report about this.

628
00:43:48.360 --> 00:43:53.079
<v Speaker 1>They but this is kind of like you know, with

629
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 1>their they can do whatever they want and are like

630
00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I said, are they using this as a bioweapon? Think

631
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<v Speaker 1>about what we talked about on our show about statins,

632
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<v Speaker 1>where the statins that are most common that everyone is taking,

633
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<v Speaker 1>they're making from asparillogus fungus. What are mushrooms mushrooms or fungus?

634
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:24.039
<v Speaker 1>Are they able to use those mushrooms and bioengineer and

635
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>biosynthesize those into something else that inhaled is toxic because asparillogus,

636
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 1>like we talked about on that show, is very toxic

637
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<v Speaker 1>to people with any kind of lung condition.

638
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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, and if you do have a lung condition, And

639
00:44:43.039 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 2>just to let people know this when we speak about DAP,

640
00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 2>where I work, I work at a drug uh in

641
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.320
<v Speaker 2>patient drug facility to help people come off. I also

642
00:44:53.360 --> 00:44:56.280
<v Speaker 2>work with people in the military that have PTSD. All

643
00:44:56.280 --> 00:44:59.559
<v Speaker 2>these things we're talking about, this is my job, yep.

644
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.960
<v Speaker 2>So when we're seeing this and we do the intake

645
00:45:03.039 --> 00:45:06.000
<v Speaker 2>for these people, they ask about your drug use to

646
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:08.639
<v Speaker 2>know what's going on with you, if you might be

647
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.920
<v Speaker 2>in psychosis for meth or whatever. But one of the

648
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 2>questions is is DAB and it is not the same

649
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:20.679
<v Speaker 2>as pot. The pot isn't a different thing altogether if

650
00:45:20.679 --> 00:45:22.519
<v Speaker 2>you eat it, if you regular smoke it, but the

651
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:26.480
<v Speaker 2>DAB is actually in where we put the meth. And

652
00:45:26.719 --> 00:45:30.679
<v Speaker 2>just so people know, speaking of lung diseases, the DAP

653
00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:36.079
<v Speaker 2>vapor contains toxic methacrolian MC is what it's got, like

654
00:45:36.159 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 2>the little abbreviation for it's similar noxic to poison gas,

655
00:45:41.559 --> 00:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>causing pulmonary edema, which can be irreversible if you just

656
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 2>happen to be a certain person that has like a

657
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 2>weaker lining or some situation. There's also benzene which is

658
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:55.639
<v Speaker 2>in there, and it's a well known carcinogen, one of

659
00:45:55.679 --> 00:45:59.840
<v Speaker 2>the most significant air carcinogens. That there is an acro

660
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.559
<v Speaker 2>which is another carcinogen which is caused by the oxidization

661
00:46:04.719 --> 00:46:08.639
<v Speaker 2>and actually causes DNA damage. To your point earlier about.

662
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>DNA damage, So isn't that interesting because what has there

663
00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:19.400
<v Speaker 1>been a big push of lately, Oh you do your

664
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>pot and adapt.

665
00:46:21.039 --> 00:46:25.239
<v Speaker 2>Dab pen yep, how many of these people are going

666
00:46:25.320 --> 00:46:27.760
<v Speaker 2>to have chronic It's not going to kill you and

667
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>as an asthmatic, I'll tell you it's not fun. So

668
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:35.159
<v Speaker 2>how many of these are you guys going to have

669
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>like I do just to live every day? Plus any pen?

670
00:46:38.639 --> 00:46:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's what I was just thinking about because

671
00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people that I know that use the

672
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:53.840
<v Speaker 1>DAB they have chronic respiratory problems. They've always got a cough,

673
00:46:53.920 --> 00:46:57.199
<v Speaker 1>they've always got a sore throat, they've always.

674
00:46:56.800 --> 00:46:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Got like.

675
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:07.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, constantly like that stuff. But they're also big, big

676
00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:09.039
<v Speaker 1>users of the dad pin.

677
00:47:11.400 --> 00:47:14.960
<v Speaker 2>So really get interesting. Yeah, And if you guys want

678
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.639
<v Speaker 2>to just look at three operations that involve drugs and

679
00:47:19.679 --> 00:47:25.760
<v Speaker 2>your government, Operation Amidaeus, Operation Pegasus, Operation water Tower or

680
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Watchtower let alone, mk Ultra itself, and Operation Midnight.

681
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:32.800
<v Speaker 3>Operation Midnight Climax.

682
00:47:32.920 --> 00:47:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there is so many. And you know Operation c

683
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:39.920
<v Speaker 2>Spray where they drugged people against their will, Tuskie where

684
00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 2>they drugged people against their will. Well, like, really, if

685
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.639
<v Speaker 2>you honestly believe that your government wouldn't do that to

686
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.360
<v Speaker 2>you might want to think again.

687
00:47:50.239 --> 00:47:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, that goes back to my original question. Right, So

688
00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:58.320
<v Speaker 1>you you don't trust the government, you don't trust the

689
00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:05.599
<v Speaker 1>medical industrial complex big pharma, but you trust the high

690
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:11.760
<v Speaker 1>that you're getting from these genetically modified things. But you

691
00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:15.639
<v Speaker 1>don't question it. Why is that shouldn't.

692
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Be They've been taught. It's like the rebels that are

693
00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 2>doing a rate. It's not the rebel.

694
00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:24.360
<v Speaker 3>It's not a rebel. If you were a rebel, you

695
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:29.599
<v Speaker 3>would be improbably well yeah, and you would probably question, like, you.

696
00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Know, who goes to prison the drug dealers that aren't

697
00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 2>working for the drug dealers.

698
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:39.519
<v Speaker 1>And and that's what my point was earlier, that the

699
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:45.239
<v Speaker 1>ones that are approved to have a license to run

700
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:51.239
<v Speaker 1>these grow facilities, and then they're arresting mom and pop

701
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.519
<v Speaker 1>people where it grows naturally on their property or you

702
00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:00.599
<v Speaker 1>know whatever. They're arresting those people, but they're allowing only

703
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:07.760
<v Speaker 1>the ones that the government okays to have a shop, yep.

704
00:49:07.840 --> 00:49:10.000
<v Speaker 2>And they're making mad money off of that, by the way.

705
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, there's huge money in it. And so think

706
00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:20.159
<v Speaker 1>about like how many states have allowed legalization.

707
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Even Utah folded, even you taught us.

708
00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Right, And do those do those states use that as

709
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 1>a large percentage of their state income? Like what are

710
00:49:36.679 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 1>they getting from these growers as a percentage to run

711
00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the state? You know, got to agrease the palms, right,

712
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.639
<v Speaker 1>So how much money are these states getting back from

713
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:49.360
<v Speaker 1>the growers that they've approved.

714
00:49:50.199 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 2>And also, it wasn't because of the goodly Mormons here. Look,

715
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:58.679
<v Speaker 2>it was the Mormons that kept it from being accepted.

716
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:02.679
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't on they're standing with religion. It was because

717
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:05.400
<v Speaker 2>they own most of the pharmaceuticals and they'd rather have

718
00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:08.719
<v Speaker 2>you on xanax so don't think this was some pariah

719
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:13.360
<v Speaker 2>of positivity. No, we have one of the highest overdose

720
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:20.840
<v Speaker 2>races races in America. Probably we're all white here, we're depressed.

721
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but you know, I am telling you guys,

722
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 2>like as far as that goes to the dopamine receptors

723
00:50:29.000 --> 00:50:32.199
<v Speaker 2>are actually damaged in your brain when you start this

724
00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:37.280
<v Speaker 2>too early, and it actually speaking of depression causes some

725
00:50:37.639 --> 00:50:41.159
<v Speaker 2>times depression that you wouldn't have because it causes you

726
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>to have a flood, especially like think of ecstasy. Back

727
00:50:45.000 --> 00:50:48.239
<v Speaker 2>in the day, people would die like over this because

728
00:50:48.239 --> 00:50:51.679
<v Speaker 2>they'd get so depressed it released all of everything they

729
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>had and then the next day they are just hysterical.

730
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you couldn't common. They had to take them

731
00:50:56.519 --> 00:50:59.360
<v Speaker 2>to the hospital. I treated people like this where we

732
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:01.679
<v Speaker 2>had an instant utilize them for a week until they

733
00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:04.840
<v Speaker 2>started mellowing out because they were not okay.

734
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:09.079
<v Speaker 1>So here's a question, and this is a medical question

735
00:51:09.400 --> 00:51:13.480
<v Speaker 1>since we're talking about dopamine, and you know dopamine receptors

736
00:51:13.519 --> 00:51:16.840
<v Speaker 1>and dopamine in turn, you know has something to do

737
00:51:16.880 --> 00:51:19.559
<v Speaker 1>with your serotonin and your melotonin.

738
00:51:19.039 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 3>And all these things.

739
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:29.239
<v Speaker 1>But if those cells and those receptors are damaged in

740
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>people because the THHC level is too high and because

741
00:51:33.559 --> 00:51:40.880
<v Speaker 1>this DNA altered little experiment is corrupting our normal system

742
00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Speaker 1>and our normal flow and dopamine is involved. What does

743
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that mean for people developing Parkinson's then, M.

744
00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I know that the cure that they're handing out. Yeah,

745
00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:59.920
<v Speaker 2>since twenty twenty has had a market increase in parkins.

746
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:03.199
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you that. I'll tell you also that it

747
00:52:03.360 --> 00:52:10.079
<v Speaker 2>causes lifelong issues with other things as well, right, autoimmune issues.

748
00:52:10.119 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 2>Think of this, You're putting something inside of your body

749
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:14.719
<v Speaker 2>that you don't know where it's been or what they've

750
00:52:14.760 --> 00:52:17.679
<v Speaker 2>done to it. What if they're doing weird stuff like

751
00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:20.880
<v Speaker 2>we talked about before with the flu where they were

752
00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 2>using chicken, you know, parts of the egg, and then

753
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:28.199
<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden everybody's allergic to eggs. Yeah, I mean,

754
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:30.320
<v Speaker 2>you guys have got to put two and two together.

755
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 2>When you start deleting DNA chop chop, you're filling it in.

756
00:52:34.840 --> 00:52:36.840
<v Speaker 3>You have to from something.

757
00:52:37.559 --> 00:52:43.280
<v Speaker 1>And so that's my point is if it's altering the

758
00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:46.960
<v Speaker 1>stretcher and the makeup of the brain and the way

759
00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:52.280
<v Speaker 1>that it normally works, and the amount of chemicals and

760
00:52:52.440 --> 00:52:58.519
<v Speaker 1>hormones that are released by the brain is substantial that

761
00:52:58.679 --> 00:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>controls the whole rest of the body. So what does

762
00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:08.800
<v Speaker 1>that look for neurological stuff in the future. For brain damage,

763
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you got all your optic nerves and cranial nerves, so

764
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:22.719
<v Speaker 1>facial paralysis, vision, hearing issues like respiratory like you said, numbness, tingling,

765
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:28.119
<v Speaker 1>loss of you see your limbs, paralysis, all of the things,

766
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:34.079
<v Speaker 1>or just flat out hormonal imbalances.

767
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:39.800
<v Speaker 2>And for impossible infertility, think of think of the person listen,

768
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.920
<v Speaker 2>think of the person in a eugenic situation that they

769
00:53:43.960 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 2>would want to make sure they affected. Is it the

770
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:51.920
<v Speaker 2>woman that can have only one baby per year, maybe

771
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:54.519
<v Speaker 2>two if she gets lucky and has some twins, right,

772
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:58.840
<v Speaker 2>or is it the man who can have children up

773
00:53:58.920 --> 00:54:02.079
<v Speaker 2>until he dies. Not like women, we ran out of

774
00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:06.039
<v Speaker 2>time frame, we ran out of eggs, blah blah blah.

775
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:10.159
<v Speaker 2>It would be healthy young males. They can pro create

776
00:54:10.679 --> 00:54:13.719
<v Speaker 2>the world literally mean well.

777
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:25.000
<v Speaker 1>And thinking about user wise, more males use substances than females.

778
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:29.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's that's a general rule. That's not bullshit. That's

779
00:54:29.960 --> 00:54:35.880
<v Speaker 1>literally from a treatment standpoint, males are more likely users

780
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:36.719
<v Speaker 1>than females.

781
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's not just I mean a couple things

782
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:44.679
<v Speaker 2>that play there. A more women will seek out help

783
00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:49.760
<v Speaker 2>for emotional issues before men, right, So it just leads

784
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:53.679
<v Speaker 2>into that and not saying that it's better or worse,

785
00:54:53.719 --> 00:54:55.559
<v Speaker 2>it's just how it is. Right, Men don't cope the

786
00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:58.360
<v Speaker 2>same as women. Women will reach out to friends, family,

787
00:54:58.440 --> 00:55:00.440
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah. I think men are com along,

788
00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:03.880
<v Speaker 2>but you know, notoriously it's been covered up. Go on

789
00:55:03.960 --> 00:55:08.639
<v Speaker 2>with your day. So yeah, covering it up is going

790
00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:11.599
<v Speaker 2>to lead you to a world of issues, respiratory issues.

791
00:55:11.599 --> 00:55:13.440
<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you, as you guys see, I'm

792
00:55:13.559 --> 00:55:17.079
<v Speaker 2>full of tons of allergies today. I keep muting my mic.

793
00:55:17.920 --> 00:55:21.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, I was born this way, but many people

794
00:55:22.440 --> 00:55:24.800
<v Speaker 2>become this way. And like she said, like it's not

795
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:30.880
<v Speaker 2>just your your lungs, think about your mucus system in general,

796
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.320
<v Speaker 2>and then remember this if it doesn't get you with

797
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:37.039
<v Speaker 2>carcinogens and all this other stuff we've already talked about,

798
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:41.000
<v Speaker 2>and bacteria, God only knows what they're doing where they're

799
00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:46.719
<v Speaker 2>growing it everything, honestly, but on top of it, chronic

800
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:51.760
<v Speaker 2>sinus issues. Your sinus is the closest thing to your

801
00:55:51.800 --> 00:55:54.960
<v Speaker 2>frontal lobe that you have. That's why they used to

802
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.719
<v Speaker 2>do lobotomies by sticking a big fat nail up your

803
00:55:57.719 --> 00:56:02.440
<v Speaker 2>nose and bye bye brain, like it will change you completely.

804
00:56:03.039 --> 00:56:07.000
<v Speaker 2>And so are I I'm just postulating here? Are they

805
00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:13.280
<v Speaker 2>lobotomizing people in a kind of a way, right, Like

806
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:14.719
<v Speaker 2>not fully?

807
00:56:15.559 --> 00:56:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's that is something I can tell you that

808
00:56:19.280 --> 00:56:21.559
<v Speaker 1>I have seen in the people that we know that

809
00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 1>are I'm going to say aggressive users, right.

810
00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:30.599
<v Speaker 2>We're not talking about the occasional.

811
00:56:30.159 --> 00:56:34.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, there's the other people at bedtime, right, Like, yeah,

812
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:39.119
<v Speaker 1>these are people aggressive users. Is people that I mean

813
00:56:39.679 --> 00:56:43.840
<v Speaker 1>literally have to do it all day long, every day

814
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:50.719
<v Speaker 1>and whatever. That's their routine. They don't remember anything they

815
00:56:50.760 --> 00:56:55.360
<v Speaker 1>tell you. They're more aggressive. That's why I call it

816
00:56:55.639 --> 00:57:03.079
<v Speaker 1>aggressive behavior, right, or aggressive users because they become physically

817
00:57:03.280 --> 00:57:14.719
<v Speaker 1>and emotionally aggressive, abusive, verbally memory impaired, confusion, belligerent at times,

818
00:57:15.599 --> 00:57:18.960
<v Speaker 1>literally all the things. Now, this is you're not going

819
00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to notice this as much in people who do not.

820
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:28.599
<v Speaker 3>Partake constantly.

821
00:57:28.679 --> 00:57:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this isn't and we're not talking about demonizing it. Look,

822
00:57:32.039 --> 00:57:35.039
<v Speaker 2>if you are over the age, I would say twenty

823
00:57:35.079 --> 00:57:39.119
<v Speaker 2>one at least because of all these brain synapses that

824
00:57:39.119 --> 00:57:41.920
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about, especially if you're a male. My husband,

825
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:45.559
<v Speaker 2>the sad part is, my husband spent so much time

826
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:49.760
<v Speaker 2>sitting our sundown because he was so worried about how

827
00:57:49.800 --> 00:57:52.519
<v Speaker 2>young he was. When he started that, he was like,

828
00:57:52.559 --> 00:57:54.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, this thing can happen, and it can cause

829
00:57:54.440 --> 00:57:56.719
<v Speaker 2>your schizophrenia and you can lose your mind. And then

830
00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.679
<v Speaker 2>he laughed at that, and then it really did happen.

831
00:58:00.119 --> 00:58:03.440
<v Speaker 2>That was literally awful to go through as a parent

832
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:08.119
<v Speaker 2>because he really really really tried, and also it's super

833
00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:12.920
<v Speaker 2>it's rare to go that far over and he he

834
00:58:13.119 --> 00:58:14.880
<v Speaker 2>was just like, that's never going to happen to me.

835
00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:17.519
<v Speaker 2>And everybody thinks that.

836
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:21.159
<v Speaker 1>That's what we always think, right, we're very invincible, and

837
00:58:21.199 --> 00:58:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it's our ego telling us that, just like it's your

838
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:30.440
<v Speaker 1>ego filled with entities that are telling you that you

839
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:35.719
<v Speaker 1>can't function or move or create or think or whatever

840
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:36.480
<v Speaker 1>without it.

841
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:38.480
<v Speaker 2>So let you can.

842
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:42.719
<v Speaker 3>Let's go back to you your son.

843
00:58:43.039 --> 00:58:48.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So he's having like the vocal seizure type thing

844
00:58:48.719 --> 00:58:52.599
<v Speaker 1>where the lights are on but no one's home, blank

845
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:57.000
<v Speaker 1>stares all of that stuff. Well, what else, what else?

846
00:58:57.119 --> 00:58:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Behavior wise? What else was going on with him?

847
00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:05.119
<v Speaker 2>He was suicidal the point that I intervened, he because

848
00:59:05.159 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 2>of what was happening. And he was also having which

849
00:59:08.119 --> 00:59:11.599
<v Speaker 2>he still has to this day, residual effects of things

850
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:14.760
<v Speaker 2>that only happen normally for acid, which is weird. He

851
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:19.159
<v Speaker 2>has the wavy like lines of doorways and carpets, and

852
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:21.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought this must have been laced. No, I looked

853
00:59:21.800 --> 00:59:26.599
<v Speaker 2>it up. It's a thing with this really concentrated weed.

854
00:59:26.639 --> 00:59:29.480
<v Speaker 2>It's not even the mushroom, right, because.

855
00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Your cranial nerves are in here, and so what is

856
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:35.519
<v Speaker 1>in your grayil nerves.

857
00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:36.519
<v Speaker 2>It's really messy.

858
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:40.320
<v Speaker 1>There's this vision and you're when you take in light

859
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:44.679
<v Speaker 1>and it refracts off of the back and comes back out,

860
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:48.159
<v Speaker 1>so that we visualize you have all kinds of receptor

861
00:59:48.239 --> 00:59:52.000
<v Speaker 1>cells behind your eyeballs. Oh yeah, that rely on the

862
00:59:52.079 --> 00:59:54.320
<v Speaker 1>brain to make the equilibrium.

863
00:59:54.800 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Because of what you're saying, Like as equilibrium was off,

864
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:02.119
<v Speaker 2>he he was a shadow of himself. I'm telling you guys,

865
01:00:02.199 --> 01:00:06.800
<v Speaker 2>he has barely gotten kind of back to himself. He

866
01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:11.239
<v Speaker 2>attributes this somewhat to a demonic situation as well. And

867
01:00:11.320 --> 01:00:16.000
<v Speaker 2>he has always made music and he makes music now.

868
01:00:16.000 --> 01:00:20.480
<v Speaker 2>He just got back from Germany and his band well,

869
01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you call it, but anyway, because

870
01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:25.159
<v Speaker 2>he just does it. But it's Balduvi and Bear's and

871
01:00:25.239 --> 01:00:28.599
<v Speaker 2>he says this Bear was like the negative dark side

872
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:32.360
<v Speaker 2>of him when this was all happening, and it's very cureosque.

873
01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:34.519
<v Speaker 2>You guys can check him out. He's on ig and stuff,

874
01:00:34.519 --> 01:00:38.159
<v Speaker 2>and you know, it's was really sad to see him

875
01:00:38.320 --> 01:00:44.519
<v Speaker 2>cease everything that he cared about everything, no creation, no music,

876
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:49.639
<v Speaker 2>no sports, just he was just not functioning in this world.

877
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:53.000
<v Speaker 2>Like he wasn't showering, so he didn't care about anything,

878
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, and he knew that that wasn't normal, but

879
01:00:56.119 --> 01:00:58.480
<v Speaker 2>he said I can't. I can't do anything about it,

880
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:01.559
<v Speaker 2>which then made him suicide. So we were in this

881
01:01:01.639 --> 01:01:04.920
<v Speaker 2>horrible and this was a month after he had He

882
01:01:05.039 --> 01:01:07.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of figured that. I mean, he just stopped everything

883
01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:11.480
<v Speaker 2>because he was like, something has messed me really bad up.

884
01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:15.480
<v Speaker 2>And all he ever did was those two substances and

885
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:20.639
<v Speaker 2>drinking a kate very occasional, and he said, I just

886
01:01:20.679 --> 01:01:23.239
<v Speaker 2>stopped everything because I didn't I didn't know what was

887
01:01:23.280 --> 01:01:26.599
<v Speaker 2>wrong with me. But I thought that he's very hippie dippy,

888
01:01:26.920 --> 01:01:30.360
<v Speaker 2>like a certain shampoos and everything, and he said, I

889
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:33.360
<v Speaker 2>couldn't figure it out. I don't even take advil. Like

890
01:01:33.599 --> 01:01:36.280
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I didn't know what was happening to me.

891
01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:37.800
<v Speaker 2>I thought I was going crazy.

892
01:01:39.039 --> 01:01:39.480
<v Speaker 3>And so.

893
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm curious, like what in the world because there

894
01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:50.800
<v Speaker 1>is no like like you said, there's no impatient treatment

895
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:56.039
<v Speaker 1>or no treatment center that's like okay, well, oh it's marijuana. Well,

896
01:01:56.199 --> 01:02:00.280
<v Speaker 1>no problem, we'll treat him. What was it like and

897
01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:05.599
<v Speaker 1>how many places did you have to get to before

898
01:02:06.480 --> 01:02:11.760
<v Speaker 1>somebody was like, oh, maybe we should probably like take

899
01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:12.159
<v Speaker 1>him in.

900
01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.480
<v Speaker 2>They well, because of how bad his psychosis was at

901
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:20.079
<v Speaker 2>that point, and we wanted him to go under drug addiction,

902
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:25.519
<v Speaker 2>because in patient psych is scary. If you are somewhat

903
01:02:25.559 --> 01:02:28.559
<v Speaker 2>still functional human being and you're barely He was like

904
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:34.679
<v Speaker 2>nineteen when this happened. That would have terrified him because

905
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:36.840
<v Speaker 2>I know, it's very scary.

906
01:02:37.239 --> 01:02:38.639
<v Speaker 3>It's scary for step.

907
01:02:38.519 --> 01:02:43.400
<v Speaker 2>For fritics, and especially where he's just kind of introverted

908
01:02:43.519 --> 01:02:46.000
<v Speaker 2>to his own psychosis, right, He's in his own mind.

909
01:02:46.400 --> 01:02:49.920
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't disruptive or anything like that, So that literally

910
01:02:49.960 --> 01:02:53.239
<v Speaker 2>would have scared the shit out of him. And so

911
01:02:53.280 --> 01:02:55.440
<v Speaker 2>we were lucky enough that I already worked at the

912
01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.519
<v Speaker 2>place I worked, so I had connections, But honestly, if

913
01:02:58.559 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 2>I had not, I don't know what we would have done.

914
01:03:00.679 --> 01:03:03.880
<v Speaker 2>And it was quite the situation to get insurance to

915
01:03:03.920 --> 01:03:06.039
<v Speaker 2>cover it or weed.

916
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it was. And that's not that's not just

917
01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:19.880
<v Speaker 1>your facility. That is literally nationwide treatment facility guidelines do

918
01:03:20.119 --> 01:03:30.280
<v Speaker 1>not qualify for marijuana. It is literally cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine.

919
01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:34.159
<v Speaker 1>What's your jug of choice, you know, And it's all

920
01:03:34.599 --> 01:03:38.639
<v Speaker 1>on all the intake forms and you will not find

921
01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:41.039
<v Speaker 1>one that says marijuana.

922
01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Except for now they are starting to do it for

923
01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:48.239
<v Speaker 2>DAP because it has gotten so bad with people having

924
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:54.760
<v Speaker 2>psychosis after doing dabs.

925
01:03:54.920 --> 01:03:58.119
<v Speaker 1>But as a biz as a general rule, if somebody

926
01:03:58.159 --> 01:04:00.719
<v Speaker 1>comes in and they're you're like, oh, no, I'm a

927
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:04.800
<v Speaker 1>marijuana user. Do you use a dab pin? If you

928
01:04:04.880 --> 01:04:07.159
<v Speaker 1>say no, they're going to turn you away.

929
01:04:07.760 --> 01:04:11.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, honestly, I think we kind of told him

930
01:04:11.159 --> 01:04:15.320
<v Speaker 2>to fudge on the drinking because they'll help you for that.

931
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:18.760
<v Speaker 2>And I knew the game to play, and I he

932
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:21.159
<v Speaker 2>didn't come to my actual facility, but I knew enough

933
01:04:21.199 --> 01:04:24.360
<v Speaker 2>people to like at the intake people send other people

934
01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:28.360
<v Speaker 2>other places, so they helped me a hundred, but honestly

935
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:31.679
<v Speaker 2>we were at such a loss, like we were scared

936
01:04:31.719 --> 01:04:32.559
<v Speaker 2>to leave him alone.

937
01:04:32.920 --> 01:04:35.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.

938
01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:35.880
<v Speaker 2>He was.

939
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:37.559
<v Speaker 3>When you when you.

940
01:04:37.519 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 1>Watch somebody like him going from a vibrant, energetic.

941
01:04:43.639 --> 01:04:45.719
<v Speaker 2>Creativetain of the hockey team.

942
01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Super intelligent, you know, all of these things to like

943
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:55.159
<v Speaker 1>you're staring at like a hollow being.

944
01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:58.320
<v Speaker 2>It was like something took him over. Honestly, it was

945
01:04:58.480 --> 01:05:01.599
<v Speaker 2>very scary. And even at the time he said, you know,

946
01:05:01.639 --> 01:05:05.320
<v Speaker 2>he was having hallucinations, like he didn't know. He kept

947
01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:08.519
<v Speaker 2>saying this, I didn't know if I was real, And

948
01:05:08.559 --> 01:05:10.320
<v Speaker 2>I said, what do you mean? And he said, I

949
01:05:10.360 --> 01:05:13.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like I'm in a video game, and like it's

950
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:16.639
<v Speaker 2>it's not real. You're not real. This isn't real. I'm

951
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:20.880
<v Speaker 2>not real. Everything wasn't real. He got really like and

952
01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:23.400
<v Speaker 2>no matter what you did to try and explain it

953
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:25.400
<v Speaker 2>to him, it didn't matter.

954
01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, And it's it's funny that you said that because

955
01:05:30.280 --> 01:05:33.039
<v Speaker 1>we had done a show a long time ago on

956
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Alice in Wonderland syndrome, which is a neurological thing that

957
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:49.239
<v Speaker 1>deals with your reality or perception of reality. So imagine

958
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:53.920
<v Speaker 1>like how many people that do these things that go

959
01:05:54.079 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 1>through that same type of thing where they're seeing things

960
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that aren't there, so they're kind of hallucinating their you know,

961
01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:06.599
<v Speaker 1>like a.

962
01:06:06.719 --> 01:06:09.559
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent I think he had that, and I

963
01:06:09.599 --> 01:06:13.599
<v Speaker 2>think it was created by the drug use. He absolutely

964
01:06:13.639 --> 01:06:16.920
<v Speaker 2>had Alice in Wonderlands. He I forgot about that. He

965
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.559
<v Speaker 2>would think his hands were too big. He was really

966
01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:23.679
<v Speaker 2>dug about it or his feet, and it gave him

967
01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:27.400
<v Speaker 2>this weird like mentally. He's a very good looking boy,

968
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:33.199
<v Speaker 2>and he did not like himself. That was partially aiding

969
01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:35.719
<v Speaker 2>to this suicidal thing because he was like, I'm ugly,

970
01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:39.360
<v Speaker 2>my hands are too big, my nose is too bid,

971
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.599
<v Speaker 2>like all these weird things, and nothing you could do

972
01:06:42.599 --> 01:06:46.239
<v Speaker 2>would help him understand, like you wear a normal sized shoe.

973
01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Right, Because he's not seeing what people on the outside see.

974
01:06:52.360 --> 01:06:56.880
<v Speaker 1>His his cortex and his brain was so messed up

975
01:06:57.599 --> 01:07:01.400
<v Speaker 1>that it's like and for people who have no idea

976
01:07:01.559 --> 01:07:04.800
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about, like you look in the mirror

977
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:08.400
<v Speaker 1>and you think that your nose is like ten times

978
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:12.880
<v Speaker 1>larger than what it really actually is, and it is

979
01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:18.719
<v Speaker 1>literally a problem with your brain cortex that deals with reality,

980
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:24.639
<v Speaker 1>where it is so chemically altered and messed up that

981
01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing things that aren't real life.

982
01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:33.320
<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't matter what you tell them, it doesn't

983
01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:36.880
<v Speaker 2>You could show them like, look, most men in America

984
01:07:36.960 --> 01:07:39.519
<v Speaker 2>were this size of shoe. Blah blah blah. See where's

985
01:07:39.519 --> 01:07:42.199
<v Speaker 2>a very normal sized shoe. And we would do that.

986
01:07:42.280 --> 01:07:44.840
<v Speaker 2>We would try to do like reality therapy, but it

987
01:07:44.880 --> 01:07:48.639
<v Speaker 2>didn't work that we tried for four months. Well, I

988
01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:53.239
<v Speaker 2>was very apt to make him go earlier, but his parents,

989
01:07:54.079 --> 01:07:56.840
<v Speaker 2>including my husband, I mean, you don't want to believe

990
01:07:56.920 --> 01:08:01.159
<v Speaker 2>that that's real when you're very close to you son,

991
01:08:01.400 --> 01:08:04.480
<v Speaker 2>and like you know, he he's always been able to

992
01:08:04.519 --> 01:08:06.800
<v Speaker 2>shake things off like this is gonna You do think

993
01:08:06.840 --> 01:08:09.159
<v Speaker 2>that at first, you're like this is going to just stop.

994
01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:11.760
<v Speaker 2>And it didn't. Yeah, it was months.

995
01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:16.279
<v Speaker 1>So what kind of what kind of things that they

996
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.119
<v Speaker 1>do to help him? Did they do like a lot

997
01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:25.199
<v Speaker 1>of cognitive behavioral type therapies with him or what what

998
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:26.359
<v Speaker 1>was their treatment plan?

999
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:30.199
<v Speaker 2>And just real quick for people episode two oh six

1000
01:08:30.239 --> 01:08:33.359
<v Speaker 2>on Janet's episode ninety for me, you'll catch that Alis

1001
01:08:33.399 --> 01:08:36.119
<v Speaker 2>in Wonderland syndrome. It's a really good one to watch.

1002
01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:39.000
<v Speaker 2>They did a lot of cognitive therapy with him because

1003
01:08:39.039 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 2>he's very against medicine, that's the whole reason I think

1004
01:08:43.079 --> 01:08:45.079
<v Speaker 2>why he ended up where he was because he's mister

1005
01:08:45.159 --> 01:08:47.479
<v Speaker 2>all natural and I think he had some hockey aches

1006
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and hurt his back and blah blah blah. So you know,

1007
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:52.039
<v Speaker 2>he ends up where he ends up like this isn't

1008
01:08:52.079 --> 01:08:56.680
<v Speaker 2>some kid that goes to ragers or I mean captain

1009
01:08:56.720 --> 01:09:01.479
<v Speaker 2>of the hockey team. Like he he was very smart.

1010
01:09:01.600 --> 01:09:03.800
<v Speaker 2>He was the kid that could do all his work

1011
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.199
<v Speaker 2>in one day, which annoyed the shit out of us

1012
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:08.520
<v Speaker 2>because you know, he really didn't need to go to

1013
01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 2>school and then like last minute, it would be like,

1014
01:09:11.600 --> 01:09:14.520
<v Speaker 2>oh now I have an a like I was failing it.

1015
01:09:14.520 --> 01:09:18.239
<v Speaker 2>It used to drive us crazy. But he was very

1016
01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:21.079
<v Speaker 2>good kid, you know, really a good kid. And then

1017
01:09:21.159 --> 01:09:25.319
<v Speaker 2>to see that a evolution like of not carying like

1018
01:09:25.560 --> 01:09:29.159
<v Speaker 2>he's mister if you guys look him up. His hair

1019
01:09:29.359 --> 01:09:32.279
<v Speaker 2>is much like Janet's. He has this great hair and

1020
01:09:32.279 --> 01:09:35.560
<v Speaker 2>it's all curly and fantastic and fabulous, and he just

1021
01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:38.439
<v Speaker 2>quit caring about his hair. He quit like it just

1022
01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:42.399
<v Speaker 2>was everything nothing mattered anymore. It was actually, I think

1023
01:09:42.439 --> 01:09:44.239
<v Speaker 2>the saddest I've ever seen my husband.

1024
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:51.479
<v Speaker 1>Well I think too that because it it chechmically alters

1025
01:09:51.560 --> 01:09:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the processes in your brain that tell us like hey

1026
01:09:55.800 --> 01:10:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you need to shower, Hey you need to brush your

1027
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:05.399
<v Speaker 1>teeth or whatever. Those processes also come from your brain, right,

1028
01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:07.560
<v Speaker 1>or it was confusion like he.

1029
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Would shower but put on the dirty clothes.

1030
01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stuff, And that's that's part of you know, that

1031
01:10:14.880 --> 01:10:18.159
<v Speaker 1>that whole thing when your brain chemistry is altered, like

1032
01:10:19.199 --> 01:10:24.159
<v Speaker 1>you can't rationally or critically think a process through.

1033
01:10:24.359 --> 01:10:26.800
<v Speaker 2>No. No, he definitely like.

1034
01:10:27.680 --> 01:10:31.359
<v Speaker 1>It's not uncommon for people like that who have had

1035
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:35.239
<v Speaker 1>some kind of brain trauma to like it was like

1036
01:10:35.319 --> 01:10:40.560
<v Speaker 1>literally like touch touch the stove and don't realize they're

1037
01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:44.520
<v Speaker 1>going to get burnt. It's because that that critical thought,

1038
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:48.920
<v Speaker 1>that rational thought process is not there. It's missing, and

1039
01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:53.000
<v Speaker 1>so people do really dumb things.

1040
01:10:53.319 --> 01:10:56.560
<v Speaker 2>And he to this day he goes to a uh, well,

1041
01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:59.199
<v Speaker 2>I guess it would be na right, like not aa,

1042
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:03.199
<v Speaker 2>but you know, he and his partner go, he's my

1043
01:11:03.359 --> 01:11:06.319
<v Speaker 2>son that had the baby. His whole life has changed now.

1044
01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:09.359
<v Speaker 2>But he says, to this day, even when I told

1045
01:11:09.439 --> 01:11:11.600
<v Speaker 2>him we were going to be doing this subject, he's like, good,

1046
01:11:12.159 --> 01:11:15.760
<v Speaker 2>you need to. He's like, somebody needs to tell kids.

1047
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:19.000
<v Speaker 2>He's so passionate about it because it ruined his life

1048
01:11:19.000 --> 01:11:22.560
<v Speaker 2>for a time, you know, so he's still they are

1049
01:11:22.680 --> 01:11:26.439
<v Speaker 2>like over involved with the AA and A stuff now

1050
01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:30.199
<v Speaker 2>like they are over it. They're like constantly at meetings.

1051
01:11:30.279 --> 01:11:32.479
<v Speaker 2>I guess not over I don't know. That sounds like

1052
01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:38.319
<v Speaker 2>a bad term. They're extra involved. They're super involved. Yeah,

1053
01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:41.039
<v Speaker 2>and so now they help other people, and I think

1054
01:11:41.039 --> 01:11:45.159
<v Speaker 2>it really has helped him understand like it's okay. And also,

1055
01:11:46.079 --> 01:11:49.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, he at first felt weird in therapy. He

1056
01:11:49.039 --> 01:11:50.960
<v Speaker 2>would call us and be like, I don't belong here

1057
01:11:51.000 --> 01:11:53.680
<v Speaker 2>because these people have real problems and I don't. I

1058
01:11:53.720 --> 01:11:56.199
<v Speaker 2>don't fit in, Like I just had this weird thing

1059
01:11:56.239 --> 01:11:59.399
<v Speaker 2>with pot and I'm like, dude, Like he's like, I'm

1060
01:11:59.399 --> 01:12:02.319
<v Speaker 2>in therapy thinking like these people have really had it hard,

1061
01:12:02.399 --> 01:12:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and it was weird for him. There was no right fit.

1062
01:12:05.720 --> 01:12:08.960
<v Speaker 2>You're right, But I'm so glad he got into the

1063
01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:12.560
<v Speaker 2>addiction program because I will tell you I saw it

1064
01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 2>from an early age with him, and I was like,

1065
01:12:16.439 --> 01:12:19.439
<v Speaker 2>I think he, you know, one is good. Ten is

1066
01:12:19.479 --> 01:12:22.399
<v Speaker 2>better with him on things if he feels they're safe,

1067
01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:25.159
<v Speaker 2>and he did. He felt it was safe because it

1068
01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:25.800
<v Speaker 2>was natural.

1069
01:12:26.039 --> 01:12:29.039
<v Speaker 3>So well, and I'm a firm believer in.

1070
01:12:32.239 --> 01:12:37.800
<v Speaker 1>God works and moves in our lives in very mysterious ways, right,

1071
01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:47.159
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes we have to go through something awful not

1072
01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:50.720
<v Speaker 1>only to strengthen us, but to give us what our

1073
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:55.199
<v Speaker 1>purpose is and what our will is. And so would

1074
01:12:55.279 --> 01:12:59.800
<v Speaker 1>he be an excellent person to go out there and

1075
01:13:00.159 --> 01:13:05.000
<v Speaker 1>educate on this and teach people about totally Yes, because

1076
01:13:05.760 --> 01:13:14.159
<v Speaker 1>does this exist in the realm of substance abuse treatment. No,

1077
01:13:14.359 --> 01:13:19.640
<v Speaker 1>it is not acceptable. This is not part of a program.

1078
01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:22.039
<v Speaker 2>As far as his life changing. I know this is

1079
01:13:22.119 --> 01:13:24.439
<v Speaker 2>counterproductive most of the time. But he did meet his

1080
01:13:24.560 --> 01:13:28.520
<v Speaker 2>partner in rehab, which is funny, and she is great,

1081
01:13:28.680 --> 01:13:32.880
<v Speaker 2>and we were super worried it's been years. At first

1082
01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:35.079
<v Speaker 2>we were like, oh my gosh, this is like the

1083
01:13:35.119 --> 01:13:38.560
<v Speaker 2>worst thing ever because yeah, got a good idea. But

1084
01:13:38.920 --> 01:13:43.760
<v Speaker 2>actually she's amazing and it wasn't one of those bad situations.

1085
01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:46.359
<v Speaker 2>We know how that could have gone right. They were

1086
01:13:46.399 --> 01:13:49.960
<v Speaker 2>just super careful about it and she you know, they

1087
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:52.479
<v Speaker 2>weren't to jump in. They were just friends for a

1088
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:55.880
<v Speaker 2>long long time and then it evolved. But now they

1089
01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:58.600
<v Speaker 2>have this sweet little baby and actually have another baby

1090
01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:00.920
<v Speaker 2>on the way. I'm going to be a grandma get Intocember.

1091
01:14:01.359 --> 01:14:06.119
<v Speaker 2>So it's been really nice to see him relove himself

1092
01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:09.479
<v Speaker 2>through his son. I think even though he was super young,

1093
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that baby kind of helped save his life because he's like,

1094
01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:16.479
<v Speaker 2>look at how handsome my son is, and he knows

1095
01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:20.720
<v Speaker 2>the son looks it's like almost like yeah, yeah, and

1096
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:25.119
<v Speaker 2>he's like, wow, I guess I was cute too, or whatever.

1097
01:14:25.319 --> 01:14:30.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, He's like, it's returning that reality and that

1098
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:32.600
<v Speaker 1>perception back to normal.

1099
01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:35.680
<v Speaker 2>It's so nice to see because he'll say, oh, look

1100
01:14:35.680 --> 01:14:38.039
<v Speaker 2>at you're such a handsome boy, and I'm like, that's

1101
01:14:38.479 --> 01:14:40.760
<v Speaker 2>it's super nice to hear because it was really hard

1102
01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:43.560
<v Speaker 2>to see. You know, no matter what we said or

1103
01:14:43.600 --> 01:14:46.319
<v Speaker 2>what we did, nothing helped. Nothing helped.

1104
01:14:46.359 --> 01:14:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Well think about too, like in the realm of people

1105
01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:56.079
<v Speaker 1>that have like body dysmorphia, and it's the same kind

1106
01:14:56.159 --> 01:15:02.159
<v Speaker 1>of thing where they have a very warped or wonky

1107
01:15:02.680 --> 01:15:07.840
<v Speaker 1>right perception of reality and so they could literally weigh

1108
01:15:08.159 --> 01:15:13.439
<v Speaker 1>ninety pounds and they see themselves as like three hundred pounds.

1109
01:15:13.479 --> 01:15:16.159
<v Speaker 1>It's that same thing. It's from the cortex of your

1110
01:15:16.199 --> 01:15:22.760
<v Speaker 1>brain where you just can't process your normal stuff self.

1111
01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was hard to watch that with him,

1112
01:15:27.079 --> 01:15:31.359
<v Speaker 2>like being his parents, We just he'd never been like that, Like,

1113
01:15:31.399 --> 01:15:33.680
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't conceited, but he definitely knew he was a

1114
01:15:33.680 --> 01:15:36.800
<v Speaker 2>good looking kid. I mean to see that. And honestly,

1115
01:15:36.880 --> 01:15:40.760
<v Speaker 2>for people that are hearing this, that journey for him,

1116
01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:45.640
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't. Yeah, he was impatient for two months, extended

1117
01:15:46.000 --> 01:15:50.439
<v Speaker 2>for multiple months, extended to a sober living house. He

1118
01:15:51.399 --> 01:15:54.800
<v Speaker 2>was in therapy like a year. It was awful. It

1119
01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:58.119
<v Speaker 2>was awful, like and we never knew what was super

1120
01:15:58.159 --> 01:16:01.319
<v Speaker 2>going on because he was old enough that he wanted

1121
01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:05.560
<v Speaker 2>to deal with his shit. Yeah, and they were teaching

1122
01:16:05.640 --> 01:16:08.800
<v Speaker 2>him that that independence, you know, not that you know,

1123
01:16:08.880 --> 01:16:12.279
<v Speaker 2>that's what we understand. But we were very helicoptery parents.

1124
01:16:12.399 --> 01:16:12.600
<v Speaker 1>You know.

1125
01:16:12.960 --> 01:16:14.920
<v Speaker 2>We wanted to help him so much that we helped

1126
01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:17.800
<v Speaker 2>him right off a cliff, right, Like that's not a

1127
01:16:17.800 --> 01:16:20.560
<v Speaker 2>good idea either, And I mean, I knew right from

1128
01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:24.039
<v Speaker 2>your husbands it was too much. He just wanted to And.

1129
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:28.880
<v Speaker 1>It's really hard as a parent to like sit back

1130
01:16:29.279 --> 01:16:36.119
<v Speaker 1>and watch this unfold and not want to do everything

1131
01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:40.079
<v Speaker 1>that you can in your being to help that person.

1132
01:16:40.920 --> 01:16:45.399
<v Speaker 1>But that's the thing is that sometimes, and I've said

1133
01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:47.800
<v Speaker 1>this before, you have to let.

1134
01:16:47.560 --> 01:16:50.279
<v Speaker 3>Them do their thing.

1135
01:16:50.479 --> 01:16:53.800
<v Speaker 1>Even if they're making mistakes or even if you know

1136
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a bad idea, because that's the only way that.

1137
01:16:57.520 --> 01:17:02.680
<v Speaker 3>They learn from stuff. What do you think.

1138
01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:06.760
<v Speaker 1>Since he had to do like the cognitive stuff, which

1139
01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:11.640
<v Speaker 1>for people that don't know, it's like retraining your brain

1140
01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:16.840
<v Speaker 1>to think about behaviors in a different manner. That's what

1141
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:23.039
<v Speaker 1>cognitive therapy is. But what do you see a possibility

1142
01:17:23.199 --> 01:17:27.880
<v Speaker 1>since you work in the substance abuse facility, do you

1143
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:33.199
<v Speaker 1>see a possibility of this conversation ever coming up with

1144
01:17:33.279 --> 01:17:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the administration where they add these kind of substances to

1145
01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:44.920
<v Speaker 1>their because mushrooms are also not included on no admissions

1146
01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:45.680
<v Speaker 1>for this.

1147
01:17:46.079 --> 01:17:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Nope, they don't care. And by the way, if you

1148
01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:50.520
<v Speaker 2>come there for math, they also don't care about that.

1149
01:17:50.520 --> 01:17:52.039
<v Speaker 2>They're just going to stick you in a room for

1150
01:17:52.039 --> 01:17:54.840
<v Speaker 2>forty eight hours and send you to behavioral therapy. So

1151
01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:59.119
<v Speaker 2>just FYI, they're not They can't do a whole lot

1152
01:17:59.159 --> 01:18:01.159
<v Speaker 2>for that, you know. Oh, there's just you've got to

1153
01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:04.800
<v Speaker 2>come down. And that's how it is. And as as

1154
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:09.279
<v Speaker 2>a nurse watching the changes, I will say this, every

1155
01:18:09.359 --> 01:18:16.039
<v Speaker 2>single substance abuse that I've ever seen take place starts.

1156
01:18:16.640 --> 01:18:19.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not the vets come from all over the world,

1157
01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:24.039
<v Speaker 2>okay where I am, and the number one trauma that

1158
01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:27.760
<v Speaker 2>they talk about is not their combat trauma. Yes they

1159
01:18:27.800 --> 01:18:30.720
<v Speaker 2>have combat trauma, Yes they speak about it, but it's

1160
01:18:30.760 --> 01:18:34.920
<v Speaker 2>not the root cause. The root cause, especially your childhood,

1161
01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:39.520
<v Speaker 2>it's parents or bullying or something that has happened when

1162
01:18:39.520 --> 01:18:43.720
<v Speaker 2>they're young that has happened. And I'm not saying and

1163
01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:46.079
<v Speaker 2>this goes to a double edged sword with me because

1164
01:18:46.079 --> 01:18:48.319
<v Speaker 2>I have a daughter that cut me off for apparently

1165
01:18:48.399 --> 01:18:51.439
<v Speaker 2>how bad of a parent I was. We also have

1166
01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:55.800
<v Speaker 2>to remember parents are doing their best and you know,

1167
01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:58.800
<v Speaker 2>even if we do it wrong, cut off therapy is

1168
01:18:59.119 --> 01:19:02.880
<v Speaker 2>such a bout. You have to deal with things, just

1169
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:06.359
<v Speaker 2>like he had to deal with that. We did step back.

1170
01:19:06.560 --> 01:19:10.159
<v Speaker 2>We understand our place, but you know he didn't. I

1171
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:12.439
<v Speaker 2>mean we felt super abandoned and sad about it, but

1172
01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:15.479
<v Speaker 2>we knew he was there, you know, and it was hard,

1173
01:19:16.119 --> 01:19:18.920
<v Speaker 2>but also you know, we have our place in his

1174
01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:23.199
<v Speaker 2>life at a different measure now because he was moved out.

1175
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Same thing for any of your kids going through this stuff.

1176
01:19:26.520 --> 01:19:29.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean I always say, you have to talk to

1177
01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:33.840
<v Speaker 2>the people like this unless they're actively still abusive, right, Like,

1178
01:19:33.880 --> 01:19:36.239
<v Speaker 2>there's like if you went and had therapy, they would

1179
01:19:36.239 --> 01:19:39.199
<v Speaker 2>slap you in the face. Okay, don't do that. Maybe

1180
01:19:39.199 --> 01:19:47.640
<v Speaker 2>you could do a zoom call right like what exactly

1181
01:19:47.920 --> 01:19:50.640
<v Speaker 2>and and so. But I always think that it's important

1182
01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:53.720
<v Speaker 2>to never just slam that door shut unless the person

1183
01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:56.520
<v Speaker 2>is completely And there's so few people that are actually

1184
01:19:56.560 --> 01:19:59.680
<v Speaker 2>really criminally insane like that where they would just have

1185
01:19:59.800 --> 01:20:02.880
<v Speaker 2>no heart. Not saying it doesn't exist. I'm just saying

1186
01:20:02.960 --> 01:20:06.880
<v Speaker 2>the word toxic is overused in this society. And what

1187
01:20:06.960 --> 01:20:10.560
<v Speaker 2>they're doing is they're creating a division in family, which

1188
01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:12.800
<v Speaker 2>is part of the communistic They told you they were

1189
01:20:12.840 --> 01:20:16.279
<v Speaker 2>going to do it. Just look at Hegel. Yeah, and

1190
01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:20.039
<v Speaker 2>education is coming in i e. Therapy you know, to

1191
01:20:20.439 --> 01:20:23.359
<v Speaker 2>take over the parenting role. Does it have its place

1192
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:27.880
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent? Do you need that to take over

1193
01:20:27.960 --> 01:20:31.399
<v Speaker 2>your parenting role so you never fix anything because you

1194
01:20:31.479 --> 01:20:34.399
<v Speaker 2>hate your mom until the day she friaking dies. I

1195
01:20:34.439 --> 01:20:36.399
<v Speaker 2>don't think that's a good idea. If you have a

1196
01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.600
<v Speaker 2>person willing to go to therapy with you that doesn't

1197
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:43.000
<v Speaker 2>want to cause chaos like slapping in the faces, okay,

1198
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:47.560
<v Speaker 2>and also can have extreme boundaries like I just feel

1199
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:53.720
<v Speaker 2>like nowadays there is too much division and they know

1200
01:20:53.880 --> 01:20:56.920
<v Speaker 2>what it does to your inherent core. And I'll tell you,

1201
01:20:56.960 --> 01:21:00.239
<v Speaker 2>guys something. If you don't believe me, go to talk

1202
01:21:00.319 --> 01:21:04.000
<v Speaker 2>to adopted kids about why they absolutely need to find

1203
01:21:04.039 --> 01:21:08.159
<v Speaker 2>their birth parent. Every single time. It almost is is

1204
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:12.079
<v Speaker 2>very rare that kids will say I don't want anything

1205
01:21:12.119 --> 01:21:13.840
<v Speaker 2>to do with them ever, or meet them or know

1206
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:17.239
<v Speaker 2>anything about them. Doesn't mean they have a huge relationship, right,

1207
01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:22.479
<v Speaker 2>but that eventual thing that happens deals with that, just

1208
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:25.600
<v Speaker 2>like people need to deal with that with abusers. Like

1209
01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I was very abused as a kid. If the guy

1210
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:32.199
<v Speaker 2>came to me tomorrow, I would be like, yeah, I mean,

1211
01:21:32.239 --> 01:21:35.319
<v Speaker 2>he's a dick, but I would still go and talk

1212
01:21:35.359 --> 01:21:39.840
<v Speaker 2>with him, Okay, and he's he's yeah in a safe setting.

1213
01:21:39.920 --> 01:21:42.439
<v Speaker 2>Like was every memory bad? Was he doing the best

1214
01:21:42.439 --> 01:21:44.439
<v Speaker 2>he could? I don't know, you know what I mean,

1215
01:21:44.479 --> 01:21:46.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know his story well.

1216
01:21:46.479 --> 01:21:50.720
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing that it takes a lot for

1217
01:21:50.880 --> 01:21:57.439
<v Speaker 1>people to understand, especially anybody that's been traumatized in any way,

1218
01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:04.840
<v Speaker 1>shape or form in their childhood. Your parents learn their

1219
01:22:04.960 --> 01:22:11.279
<v Speaker 1>parenting from their parents, so it's a generational thing, right,

1220
01:22:11.359 --> 01:22:15.039
<v Speaker 1>And so if your grandparents didn't know how to properly

1221
01:22:15.239 --> 01:22:20.079
<v Speaker 1>parent and didn't teach your parents. Your parents only know

1222
01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:25.199
<v Speaker 1>as much as they were taught, right, and so sometimes

1223
01:22:25.319 --> 01:22:29.039
<v Speaker 1>you have to be the one that changes that in

1224
01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:33.720
<v Speaker 1>your generation and be like, Okay, I'm going to do better,

1225
01:22:33.880 --> 01:22:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Like these are the things that are going to be

1226
01:22:36.159 --> 01:22:39.600
<v Speaker 1>better that I'm going to do differently, whatever, whatever, I'm

1227
01:22:39.600 --> 01:22:43.399
<v Speaker 1>going to raise my child in a different manner than

1228
01:22:43.439 --> 01:22:44.920
<v Speaker 1>the way that I was raised.

1229
01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:46.880
<v Speaker 3>Like if you don't grow up.

1230
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:50.600
<v Speaker 1>With the affection and attention, then make sure that you

1231
01:22:50.760 --> 01:22:53.239
<v Speaker 1>show affection and attention to your child.

1232
01:22:54.279 --> 01:22:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Here's my thing, too, Like people change so much. Like

1233
01:22:57.680 --> 01:23:01.279
<v Speaker 2>I have every reason in the world old and Janet

1234
01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>knows my story, all of it, to have never spoken

1235
01:23:04.720 --> 01:23:09.239
<v Speaker 2>to my father, especially again. Okay, ever ever, yea, And

1236
01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:14.239
<v Speaker 2>my mother was half of that, okay. And here's the

1237
01:23:14.279 --> 01:23:17.000
<v Speaker 2>thing that I do know. My mom is such a

1238
01:23:17.039 --> 01:23:20.600
<v Speaker 2>beautiful person now, Like it almost makes me cry because

1239
01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:25.000
<v Speaker 2>of how different she is. And my dad has passed now,

1240
01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:27.840
<v Speaker 2>and he passed super young, and had I missed the

1241
01:23:27.960 --> 01:23:32.039
<v Speaker 2>opportunity to really get to know him. And it was

1242
01:23:32.039 --> 01:23:35.880
<v Speaker 2>through the phone, okay, because that was mostly the safe

1243
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:38.239
<v Speaker 2>way to do it. And also he lived far away,

1244
01:23:38.279 --> 01:23:43.520
<v Speaker 2>but also he was around my kids. Was he unsupervised? No, No, Yeah,

1245
01:23:43.600 --> 01:23:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I was there, but my kid's relationship with him was

1246
01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:52.000
<v Speaker 2>so much different, right, And it was so beautiful actually,

1247
01:23:52.039 --> 01:23:55.960
<v Speaker 2>and they love him to this day, like seriously, any

1248
01:23:56.159 --> 01:23:58.520
<v Speaker 2>any kind of memory they have of him is a

1249
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:02.399
<v Speaker 2>wonderful memory. And they would have missed everything had I

1250
01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:08.359
<v Speaker 2>been as ignorant as I am being treated, with my

1251
01:24:08.479 --> 01:24:12.680
<v Speaker 2>granddaughter never having met me and missing out on that.

1252
01:24:12.720 --> 01:24:16.960
<v Speaker 2>And there is something genetically that ties us all together,

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01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:20.800
<v Speaker 2>like really in family lines, where if you do that

1254
01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:23.640
<v Speaker 2>to somebody, you can say that you're doing it because

1255
01:24:23.680 --> 01:24:26.800
<v Speaker 2>you're helping them be better and away from those horrible people.

1256
01:24:26.800 --> 01:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Blah blah blah. Unless it is really significant actively, not

1257
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:34.600
<v Speaker 2>in the past. Actively, you might be creating something that

1258
01:24:35.399 --> 01:24:37.920
<v Speaker 2>turns completely around on you in your older age. It's

1259
01:24:37.960 --> 01:24:41.800
<v Speaker 2>a bad idea. And I just feel like too many

1260
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:44.439
<v Speaker 2>times we throw people away like garbage and that just

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01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:48.079
<v Speaker 2>isn't what God wants us to do. It's not. And

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01:24:48.159 --> 01:24:51.520
<v Speaker 2>so you know, with everything that we see here, with

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01:24:51.720 --> 01:24:54.439
<v Speaker 2>all of the traumas we know that we all go through,

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01:24:54.479 --> 01:24:57.479
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not special, Like there's so many people that

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01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:01.920
<v Speaker 2>are abused in our generation, especially right, absolutely, Yep, and

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01:25:02.039 --> 01:25:05.000
<v Speaker 2>so I didn't abuse my kids, but I yelled at

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01:25:05.000 --> 01:25:07.199
<v Speaker 2>them too much, and they do call that abuse, and

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01:25:07.279 --> 01:25:10.920
<v Speaker 2>so do I see that as abuse? No, but I'm

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01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.720
<v Speaker 2>sorry that it hurt them. I am sorry for that.

1270
01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:18.159
<v Speaker 2>But to me, that was such an insignificant thing. When

1271
01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:21.479
<v Speaker 2>you're being beaten, right, like, that's like not a big deal.

1272
01:25:22.039 --> 01:25:25.560
<v Speaker 2>And so I had to also retrain myself like, oh,

1273
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:28.640
<v Speaker 2>this is a big deal for her, Like I didn't

1274
01:25:28.720 --> 01:25:32.960
<v Speaker 2>understand that because that never mattered to me. Getting yelled

1275
01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:34.640
<v Speaker 2>at was not a thing like.

1276
01:25:34.720 --> 01:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Right, like I was bell or the switch or a

1277
01:25:39.880 --> 01:25:43.119
<v Speaker 1>hand that I was somebody's mouth, right.

1278
01:25:42.960 --> 01:25:45.479
<v Speaker 2>And especially when the belt's not just for your butt,

1279
01:25:45.720 --> 01:25:48.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're just getting beaten in a corner like crazy.

1280
01:25:48.760 --> 01:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>But I mean, like I did change things for my

1281
01:25:52.119 --> 01:25:54.520
<v Speaker 2>family and my kids. Some of them say I'm the

1282
01:25:54.520 --> 01:25:56.920
<v Speaker 2>best thing in the world, and some of them hate, well,

1283
01:25:56.960 --> 01:25:59.680
<v Speaker 2>one of them hates me. You know, do I think

1284
01:25:59.720 --> 01:26:02.880
<v Speaker 2>that normal? No? I think we're better than that. I

1285
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:05.439
<v Speaker 2>think God really requires us to be better than that.

1286
01:26:05.479 --> 01:26:08.359
<v Speaker 2>What does he say about people, you know hitting you?

1287
01:26:08.439 --> 01:26:10.239
<v Speaker 2>What should you do? You turn the other cheek and

1288
01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:12.079
<v Speaker 2>let him hit that one too. And I'm not saying

1289
01:26:12.119 --> 01:26:13.800
<v Speaker 2>like just sit there and be abused. But I am

1290
01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:17.199
<v Speaker 2>saying there's better ways to deal with things than drugs

1291
01:26:18.119 --> 01:26:20.640
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. It doesn't just.

1292
01:26:22.119 --> 01:26:30.720
<v Speaker 1>And going back to the cognitive behavioral therapy that is

1293
01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:32.239
<v Speaker 1>an amazing tool.

1294
01:26:33.600 --> 01:26:34.960
<v Speaker 3>For all kinds of things.

1295
01:26:35.479 --> 01:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>So for your behavior and habits during the day, like

1296
01:26:40.600 --> 01:26:43.439
<v Speaker 1>writing down a plan of how you're going to change

1297
01:26:43.479 --> 01:26:46.880
<v Speaker 1>things so you sleep better at night, or you know,

1298
01:26:46.880 --> 01:26:48.159
<v Speaker 1>no social media in the.

1299
01:26:48.079 --> 01:26:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Morning or whatever whatever.

1300
01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:57.439
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to turn two synthetic options to have

1301
01:26:57.520 --> 01:26:58.800
<v Speaker 1>that kind of retraining.

1302
01:26:59.279 --> 01:27:05.079
<v Speaker 2>And it's for pain, right, like irresponsible, don't over Like

1303
01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:07.680
<v Speaker 2>would you take twenty five pain pills in an hour

1304
01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:10.359
<v Speaker 2>if you're hitting that thing twenty No, you wouldn't. Let's

1305
01:27:10.399 --> 01:27:14.359
<v Speaker 2>be real here, you know, and evaluate yourself. Like I

1306
01:27:14.399 --> 01:27:17.199
<v Speaker 2>know two people that smoke pot all the time. One

1307
01:27:17.279 --> 01:27:21.800
<v Speaker 2>is not very functional, the other one extremely functional. Maybe

1308
01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:24.399
<v Speaker 2>that amount for that person is fine and that amount

1309
01:27:24.439 --> 01:27:25.720
<v Speaker 2>for that person is not fine.

1310
01:27:25.960 --> 01:27:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Or is it the stranding?

1311
01:27:29.359 --> 01:27:33.079
<v Speaker 1>Is it the particular brand that they use, because there

1312
01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:35.439
<v Speaker 1>are so many now it's like hungry.

1313
01:27:35.520 --> 01:27:37.960
<v Speaker 2>There are a couple, so I think it might actually

1314
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:40.319
<v Speaker 2>be the situation because they both smoke the same thing.

1315
01:27:40.399 --> 01:27:44.479
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, well, obviously clearly this is helping her

1316
01:27:44.600 --> 01:27:48.239
<v Speaker 2>hurting you. You guys gotta modify your behavior. I don't

1317
01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:54.560
<v Speaker 2>care if it's food, right, care, exercise, right.

1318
01:27:54.640 --> 01:28:03.039
<v Speaker 1>Waters, anxiety, literally anything, any behavior can be modified.

1319
01:28:04.439 --> 01:28:06.520
<v Speaker 2>And why it's so important to Janet's point.

1320
01:28:06.760 --> 01:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>And things that you can do or if you're somebody

1321
01:28:10.960 --> 01:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>that has depression, anxiety issues, things like that. Not just

1322
01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:22.560
<v Speaker 1>cognitive behavioral therapy where you're consciously changing you know, the

1323
01:28:22.600 --> 01:28:27.239
<v Speaker 1>way you're thinking about things. But instead of focusing on

1324
01:28:28.279 --> 01:28:32.239
<v Speaker 1>everything awful throughout the day or everything that you perceived

1325
01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:39.159
<v Speaker 1>was awful, focus on positive stuff. Start journaling, write it down, Jodd,

1326
01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>What is so many things, five things or whatever that

1327
01:28:43.720 --> 01:28:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you like about yourself? What are ten things that happen

1328
01:28:47.399 --> 01:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>during the day that were positive. It's that again, frequency

1329
01:28:54.079 --> 01:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>and tension and what you focus your energy on. And

1330
01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>so create, Yeah.

1331
01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:04.399
<v Speaker 2>Create something like I don't care if you look. One

1332
01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:07.319
<v Speaker 2>of my favorite things to do. Two things. Get the

1333
01:29:07.359 --> 01:29:11.119
<v Speaker 2>hell out of Wi Fi wherever you are occasionally. Please

1334
01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:14.479
<v Speaker 2>Every year on my birthday, everybody knows I go up

1335
01:29:14.560 --> 01:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the canyon where there is no service, and I'm there.

1336
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>They know where to find me for my birthday. And

1337
01:29:19.800 --> 01:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>this is like something that I like to do. It's

1338
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>and my husband's always like, it's so much work on

1339
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:25.760
<v Speaker 2>you because we have such a big family to cook

1340
01:29:25.800 --> 01:29:28.399
<v Speaker 2>for all these people, and there are kids, and they

1341
01:29:28.479 --> 01:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>don't have money and stuff. So I'm definitely ending up

1342
01:29:31.000 --> 01:29:34.239
<v Speaker 2>doing it right and so I don't care. But it

1343
01:29:34.279 --> 01:29:37.399
<v Speaker 2>makes me so happy just to be there with them. Right,

1344
01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:41.399
<v Speaker 2>It's like it feels different, it feels better. Get away

1345
01:29:41.399 --> 01:29:43.520
<v Speaker 2>from it somehow. Sometime I'm not saying you have to

1346
01:29:43.560 --> 01:29:45.560
<v Speaker 2>be a whole week like I do, but like I

1347
01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:48.000
<v Speaker 2>don't get to the rest of the time, so just

1348
01:29:48.159 --> 01:29:50.800
<v Speaker 2>go way somewhere. And one of my favorite things to

1349
01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:54.840
<v Speaker 2>do is play cards with somebody else or color, which

1350
01:29:55.000 --> 01:29:58.079
<v Speaker 2>seems like a ridiculous thing for a grown up personlar

1351
01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:03.079
<v Speaker 2>is a thing, but you're creating. You're creating, and even

1352
01:30:03.199 --> 01:30:06.560
<v Speaker 2>if you aren't an artist or whatever, draw I don't know,

1353
01:30:06.920 --> 01:30:10.199
<v Speaker 2>like write a poet. What happened to all of these

1354
01:30:10.239 --> 01:30:12.920
<v Speaker 2>things that used to be like poets and philosophers and

1355
01:30:12.960 --> 01:30:16.439
<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. It went away because they don't want

1356
01:30:16.479 --> 01:30:19.359
<v Speaker 2>you doing that. They don't like it that you can

1357
01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:21.840
<v Speaker 2>do that. That's a god given thing that we have

1358
01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:24.720
<v Speaker 2>that other things do not have. We get to create

1359
01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>and so.

1360
01:30:25.960 --> 01:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent and it's very useful. So color therapy, journaling, cooking,

1361
01:30:36.560 --> 01:30:40.279
<v Speaker 1>sound therapy. Some people respond very well to sound. You

1362
01:30:40.479 --> 01:30:44.399
<v Speaker 1>don't always have to go see a therapist. These are

1363
01:30:44.439 --> 01:30:45.640
<v Speaker 1>things that you can try.

1364
01:30:45.800 --> 01:30:49.439
<v Speaker 2>But a sleep machine. Sleep machines are amazing. We use

1365
01:30:49.479 --> 01:30:53.319
<v Speaker 2>those that work so much. Light therapy. Go out of

1366
01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:56.159
<v Speaker 2>your house for Keven's sakes. If you are depressed and

1367
01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:59.439
<v Speaker 2>you're spending ninety eight percent of the time in your house,

1368
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:01.399
<v Speaker 2>yup might.

1369
01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Be able to get out in this get some vitamin D.

1370
01:31:04.760 --> 01:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Not good and it doesn't nothing more than twenty minutes.

1371
01:31:07.840 --> 01:31:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Like people think you have to go on this giant No,

1372
01:31:10.640 --> 01:31:14.600
<v Speaker 2>just go out for twenty minutes. Like it's really not

1373
01:31:14.720 --> 01:31:15.800
<v Speaker 2>that long, you.

1374
01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Know, And especially if there's something that you can do

1375
01:31:19.880 --> 01:31:24.119
<v Speaker 1>while you're out there, you know, where you're creating or

1376
01:31:24.239 --> 01:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>doing something, do an art project, but I don't know,

1377
01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:32.439
<v Speaker 1>make some crochet cleaners or drawl or whatever.

1378
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:35.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these things used to be done by people, and

1379
01:31:36.399 --> 01:31:38.479
<v Speaker 2>I think too much of the time we just want

1380
01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:40.960
<v Speaker 2>to be entertained and do nothing, you know, we want

1381
01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:43.399
<v Speaker 2>to sit on our ass and be entertained. And that

1382
01:31:44.119 --> 01:31:46.640
<v Speaker 2>is just even for stuff we do. Go go have fun.

1383
01:31:46.640 --> 01:31:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh what'd you do? Went to the movies where you

1384
01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:52.520
<v Speaker 2>sat again. I'm not dissingc that those things are fun.

1385
01:31:52.840 --> 01:31:57.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying sometimes it's good to go do something

1386
01:31:57.840 --> 01:32:01.760
<v Speaker 2>not inside. Yeah, not screen time. Like people say they

1387
01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>can't sleep, and I'm like, put your phone away from you,

1388
01:32:05.880 --> 01:32:07.399
<v Speaker 2>turn it off, you know.

1389
01:32:07.800 --> 01:32:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Put it in another room to do something.

1390
01:32:11.800 --> 01:32:15.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, where you are not constantly checking it because

1391
01:32:15.359 --> 01:32:16.920
<v Speaker 2>it's resetting your brain so.

1392
01:32:17.159 --> 01:32:22.119
<v Speaker 1>Right, and it's that repetitive behavior and it becomes addictive,

1393
01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>just like the things that we're talking about today, right,

1394
01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:30.319
<v Speaker 1>because it's a feel good thing. You get a hit

1395
01:32:30.359 --> 01:32:35.279
<v Speaker 1>a dopamine until you don't because you shut that off

1396
01:32:35.359 --> 01:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>and then your body doesn't manufacture it anymore because it's broken, yep.

1397
01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:42.399
<v Speaker 2>And it takes a long time to come back from that.

1398
01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Like for my son, he still struggles, and he is

1399
01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I would say seventy five percent back, you know, but

1400
01:32:50.279 --> 01:32:54.000
<v Speaker 2>we see it sometimes that he's not and that's okay too.

1401
01:32:54.319 --> 01:32:56.439
<v Speaker 2>But he's still working on it every single.

1402
01:32:56.199 --> 01:32:59.479
<v Speaker 3>Day, right, A work in progress.

1403
01:33:00.119 --> 01:33:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And you're really proud of him and.

1404
01:33:02.560 --> 01:33:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I love that because he didn't give into the psychotropic

1405
01:33:08.520 --> 01:33:12.279
<v Speaker 1>drugs and all the Farmer's stuff, and you know whatever,

1406
01:33:13.000 --> 01:33:14.199
<v Speaker 1>I think for the first.

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01:33:14.039 --> 01:33:17.159
<v Speaker 2>Two weeks they may have done some intensive drugs because

1408
01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:21.239
<v Speaker 2>he was suicidal, but then they weaned him down.

1409
01:33:21.680 --> 01:33:26.920
<v Speaker 1>Right, But it wasn't like a long term thing. And

1410
01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:30.079
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that I want people to understand, because

1411
01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:33.479
<v Speaker 1>I just had this discussion with somebody the other day

1412
01:33:33.640 --> 01:33:40.279
<v Speaker 1>about rehab, and somebody that uber needs rehab, but they

1413
01:33:40.399 --> 01:33:44.760
<v Speaker 1>refuse to take any kind of medication. And I'm like, okay,

1414
01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:49.560
<v Speaker 1>but you have not been able to conquer this on

1415
01:33:49.600 --> 01:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>your own. I'm not a fan of farmer, but occasionally

1416
01:33:54.600 --> 01:33:59.479
<v Speaker 1>you can do for this short term.

1417
01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:05.039
<v Speaker 2>To get to a different place in your life. Right together,

1418
01:34:05.439 --> 01:34:10.319
<v Speaker 2>my brother and he was so addicted, and he said,

1419
01:34:10.359 --> 01:34:13.199
<v Speaker 2>what difference does it make if I go get on

1420
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>subutechs then what I'm doing for myself right now? And

1421
01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:19.119
<v Speaker 2>I said, the difference is you'll be in a safe

1422
01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:22.600
<v Speaker 2>space where they can help you achieve your goal of

1423
01:34:22.720 --> 01:34:26.359
<v Speaker 2>tapering down. Blah blah blah. He's gone. He died. He

1424
01:34:26.520 --> 01:34:29.079
<v Speaker 2>did not win that fight. He was so stubborn to

1425
01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>the end and trying to fix it with a band

1426
01:34:32.279 --> 01:34:34.479
<v Speaker 2>aid here, there and everywhere. He didn't die of his

1427
01:34:34.560 --> 01:34:37.159
<v Speaker 2>drug of choice. He died of some crazy sleeping pill

1428
01:34:37.199 --> 01:34:40.800
<v Speaker 2>because it mixed with something else and he had, you know,

1429
01:34:41.279 --> 01:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>sleep apnea. It was just like the combination of the

1430
01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:48.239
<v Speaker 2>dumbest things, right. It was like all the worst possible situation.

1431
01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:52.199
<v Speaker 2>Nothing was really lethal. And so when you see that

1432
01:34:52.239 --> 01:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and you see somebody lose that kind of a battle

1433
01:34:54.680 --> 01:34:58.039
<v Speaker 2>at thirty seven and it destroyed my mom, it's almost

1434
01:34:58.199 --> 01:35:02.720
<v Speaker 2>it's it's almost his aniversary date, and to this day

1435
01:35:02.760 --> 01:35:05.319
<v Speaker 2>it's been years and years and years. My mom's not

1436
01:35:05.359 --> 01:35:10.479
<v Speaker 2>okay right now. You know, I only am okay because

1437
01:35:10.520 --> 01:35:13.680
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely know he is with God, and I just

1438
01:35:13.760 --> 01:35:17.680
<v Speaker 2>have to let go because there were people that needed

1439
01:35:17.720 --> 01:35:22.680
<v Speaker 2>me when this happened. But other than that, like honestly,

1440
01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I do not want that to happen.

1441
01:35:25.880 --> 01:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>Think about what you just said, though, okay, because we

1442
01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>talked about before how people use these things as an

1443
01:35:34.039 --> 01:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>excuse or as a crutch, like to get through life

1444
01:35:37.560 --> 01:35:41.439
<v Speaker 1>and do all the things, because you can't do anything

1445
01:35:41.479 --> 01:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>by yourself. So think about how easy it would have

1446
01:35:45.600 --> 01:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>been for you, with all the things that you've gone

1447
01:35:49.359 --> 01:35:52.720
<v Speaker 1>through in life, to use that as your crutch and

1448
01:35:52.800 --> 01:35:56.279
<v Speaker 1>your excuse, but you didn't. You chose a different route

1449
01:35:57.439 --> 01:35:58.640
<v Speaker 1>my one there.

1450
01:35:59.479 --> 01:36:03.000
<v Speaker 2>He was a doctor psychiatrist at our work. He was hysterical.

1451
01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:05.159
<v Speaker 2>He would come in at nights. He couldn't sleep at night,

1452
01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and he would always come in and do his paperwork

1453
01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:10.039
<v Speaker 2>at night time. And we would talk sometimes just in

1454
01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:13.800
<v Speaker 2>general about things, and he would say, how are you

1455
01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:19.159
<v Speaker 2>here and not here like in here? And it would

1456
01:36:19.199 --> 01:36:21.560
<v Speaker 2>make me laugh every single time, and I just would

1457
01:36:21.800 --> 01:36:24.479
<v Speaker 2>like crack up and say, because I chose.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent and all of this spoils down to that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a choice that you make. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a smart choice? Is it a wise choice? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>using your brain power to think about the implications from

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01:36:42.520 --> 01:36:45.359
<v Speaker 1>the choices that you make, not just this but everything

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01:36:45.399 --> 01:36:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in general. And like I said at the beginning of

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01:36:48.000 --> 01:36:51.760
<v Speaker 1>the show, if you're a conspiracy theorist and you don't

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01:36:51.840 --> 01:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>trust anything, but you're trust in this better looking, maybe

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01:36:57.319 --> 01:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>time to reevaluate and think about the possible future permanent

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01:37:04.920 --> 01:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>ramifications of this.

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01:37:07.399 --> 01:37:10.119
<v Speaker 2>And the fact that this may have been actually co

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01:37:10.199 --> 01:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>opted to do exactly what it's doing, to.

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01:37:12.600 --> 01:37:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Do exactly have they ever done that to us?

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01:37:18.880 --> 01:37:24.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Never? And also I chose because I do want

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01:37:24.439 --> 01:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>to mention this. I chose because I was able to choose.

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01:37:27.720 --> 01:37:31.199
<v Speaker 2>But if you needed help to first get better and

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01:37:31.239 --> 01:37:34.159
<v Speaker 2>then choose, that's still choosing to be okay too, to

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01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:36.319
<v Speaker 2>take that first step in the door. If you do

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01:37:36.439 --> 01:37:38.239
<v Speaker 2>need more help than what you can do at home,

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01:37:38.680 --> 01:37:41.960
<v Speaker 2>that's still a choice in the positive direction, because sometimes

1478
01:37:42.000 --> 01:37:43.199
<v Speaker 2>you just need that extra help.

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01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, and one thing, people who need help, especially males,

1480
01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>don't ask for help. They don't want to be a burden,

1481
01:37:55.640 --> 01:37:59.039
<v Speaker 1>They don't want to bother somebody. They blah blah blah

1482
01:37:59.079 --> 01:38:03.720
<v Speaker 1>all the things. Yes, that is also a crutch, right,

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01:38:03.880 --> 01:38:09.199
<v Speaker 1>It's an excuse that people use because they feel the

1484
01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:13.199
<v Speaker 1>guilt and shame from things that they're doing, but they

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01:38:13.279 --> 01:38:16.960
<v Speaker 1>displace it or mirror it onto other people. I don't

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01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:20.600
<v Speaker 1>want to tell you because it will make your day

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01:38:20.680 --> 01:38:22.359
<v Speaker 1>worse if I tell someone.

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01:38:23.720 --> 01:38:24.840
<v Speaker 3>So that's not the thing.

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01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:28.640
<v Speaker 1>That is definitely not a thing for Heidi and I.

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01:38:28.640 --> 01:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>If you need help, if you're struggling, if you need

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01:38:31.359 --> 01:38:35.119
<v Speaker 1>someone to talk to, doesn't have to be substance abuse.

1492
01:38:35.239 --> 01:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>It could literally be about anything. You just need to

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01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:42.239
<v Speaker 1>get something off your chest, you need someone to talk to.

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01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:44.479
<v Speaker 3>That's what we're here for.

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01:38:45.239 --> 01:38:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and also there are suicide hotline numbers anywhere. You

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01:38:50.680 --> 01:38:51.680
<v Speaker 2>just have to google that.

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01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:55.239
<v Speaker 1>In yours as one of his website as Paranoia Radio.

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01:38:55.520 --> 01:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we'll probably put that in the show notes

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01:38:57.600 --> 01:39:00.359
<v Speaker 2>because I think that would be helpful. But that is

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01:39:00.399 --> 01:39:03.560
<v Speaker 2>not giving in like just because you feel weak because

1501
01:39:03.600 --> 01:39:06.439
<v Speaker 2>you need help, that's stupid. Would you go get help

1502
01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:09.840
<v Speaker 2>if you broke your arm, you would, But mental health

1503
01:39:09.840 --> 01:39:12.880
<v Speaker 2>disorders don't go get help because they feel defective. You're

1504
01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:16.880
<v Speaker 2>not defective. You're in a situation, whether it's addiction or

1505
01:39:16.880 --> 01:39:20.239
<v Speaker 2>a mental health challenge or both. You don't know your

1506
01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:23.319
<v Speaker 2>capability or what you can become without that if you

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01:39:23.399 --> 01:39:24.760
<v Speaker 2>never take the first step.

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01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:29.239
<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent, and you have to have that desire

1509
01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:33.039
<v Speaker 1>and drive to want to make that change and to not.

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01:39:33.319 --> 01:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Use yes, it will be hostes.

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01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Or crutches anymore. You have to make that a priority

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01:39:40.119 --> 01:39:41.720
<v Speaker 1>in your life to be better.

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01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep. And you if you say you're not going.

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01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.640
<v Speaker 2>My brother's biggest thing, he was a single dad. He

1515
01:39:48.680 --> 01:39:50.840
<v Speaker 2>would constantly say what will I do with my daughter?

1516
01:39:51.239 --> 01:39:54.760
<v Speaker 2>His daughter found him dead. I promise you the amount

1517
01:39:54.760 --> 01:40:02.039
<v Speaker 2>of destruction that that did to her ways was catastrophic. Yeah,

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01:40:02.079 --> 01:40:05.279
<v Speaker 2>his ex wife killed herself shortly after he died. Like

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01:40:05.359 --> 01:40:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I am telling you guys, if you think you don't matter,

1520
01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:12.479
<v Speaker 2>at least ten people will be absolutely horrifically affected by

1521
01:40:12.479 --> 01:40:13.880
<v Speaker 2>your death if you do not get help.

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01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Trust me, it's that ripple effect. Yes, and so behaviors, thoughts,

1523
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:26.880
<v Speaker 1>all of that stuff has a wide effect on people

1524
01:40:26.960 --> 01:40:29.159
<v Speaker 1>that you don't even know that you're affecting.

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01:40:29.680 --> 01:40:33.399
<v Speaker 2>And so God yokes us with those that we are

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01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:36.720
<v Speaker 2>with for a reason. And if you are gone, I

1527
01:40:36.760 --> 01:40:39.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know that that's something you recover from. So the

1528
01:40:40.039 --> 01:40:45.279
<v Speaker 2>other people in the family, great it is can be avoided.

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01:40:45.680 --> 01:40:48.279
<v Speaker 2>You might be a beautiful like my son is so

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01:40:48.439 --> 01:40:52.039
<v Speaker 2>different now he's a beautiful father, like all these things

1531
01:40:52.079 --> 01:40:55.439
<v Speaker 2>that he wouldn't have been if he wasn't here, right.

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01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:59.119
<v Speaker 1>So one hundred percent, And that's why I said, you know,

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01:40:59.279 --> 01:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>the way that God works in our lives is very,

1534
01:41:02.960 --> 01:41:05.439
<v Speaker 1>very unique and very different, and a lot of times

1535
01:41:05.520 --> 01:41:09.199
<v Speaker 1>we just cannot see the plan. We can't see through

1536
01:41:09.239 --> 01:41:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the pain to see what's on the other side. But

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01:41:12.479 --> 01:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>there's always something better that he hasn't say.

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01:41:14.960 --> 01:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>And you matter, You matter, put yourself first, even before

1539
01:41:19.039 --> 01:41:21.920
<v Speaker 2>those kids because you can't take care of people. If

1540
01:41:21.960 --> 01:41:24.520
<v Speaker 2>you can't take care of you, that's not going to work.

1541
01:41:24.760 --> 01:41:29.720
<v Speaker 1>That's very true. So miss Heidi, where can people find

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01:41:29.760 --> 01:41:30.079
<v Speaker 1>you at?

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01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>My dear? Of course, this is always a pleasure to

1544
01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:36.560
<v Speaker 2>do these with you. We got emotional and deep down

1545
01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:38.640
<v Speaker 2>there today. We hope you got to your feel goods

1546
01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:40.359
<v Speaker 2>so that you can go get that help that you

1547
01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:43.840
<v Speaker 2>need if you do need help, because you matter, You matter,

1548
01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:47.159
<v Speaker 2>and God made you here perfect in every way. We

1549
01:41:47.279 --> 01:41:49.119
<v Speaker 2>all stumble, we all fall, but we got to get

1550
01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:51.840
<v Speaker 2>back to our inner perfectness, which you have. It's there,

1551
01:41:52.159 --> 01:41:54.479
<v Speaker 2>you just got to go see it. So your hands

1552
01:41:54.520 --> 01:41:56.920
<v Speaker 2>aren't too big, Yeah, your feet aren't too big. I

1553
01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:00.239
<v Speaker 2>promise you can go and figure out the real you.

1554
01:42:00.359 --> 01:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>It's like there's nothing that speaks better than that, right right,

1555
01:42:04.720 --> 01:42:07.920
<v Speaker 2>So it shows you that that's an illusion, and that's

1556
01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:10.039
<v Speaker 2>where they want us. They want us sad and all

1557
01:42:10.079 --> 01:42:10.720
<v Speaker 2>those things so.

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01:42:10.720 --> 01:42:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, they want us in that weakened, vulnerable stay so

1559
01:42:16.800 --> 01:42:22.039
<v Speaker 1>that other entities can enter and tear us down further

1560
01:42:22.279 --> 01:42:27.840
<v Speaker 1>because if we're weak, we can't fight back, right absolutely.

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01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:29.479
<v Speaker 2>So I had to say that last thing. I'm sorry.

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01:42:29.520 --> 01:42:32.119
<v Speaker 2>I know we're wrapping up. But I just I want

1563
01:42:32.159 --> 01:42:34.079
<v Speaker 2>people to know that they're special and that they're here

1564
01:42:34.119 --> 01:42:37.319
<v Speaker 2>for an absolute specific purpose, and that you will be loved,

1565
01:42:37.359 --> 01:42:40.960
<v Speaker 2>you will be missed, and you do matter. So and

1566
01:42:41.159 --> 01:42:43.920
<v Speaker 2>with that, you can find me at the Unfiltered Rice

1567
01:42:43.960 --> 01:42:47.680
<v Speaker 2>podcast everywhere podcasts are served Unfiltered Rice podcast dot com.

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01:42:48.000 --> 01:42:50.359
<v Speaker 2>My crazy life is why I started doing this, so

1569
01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:55.239
<v Speaker 2>that's why I have some of the crazy stories. Sorry.

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01:42:56.760 --> 01:42:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Second, that notion for you and for me as well.

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01:43:00.239 --> 01:43:03.560
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and Janet, in case they're watching you on

1572
01:43:03.600 --> 01:43:05.560
<v Speaker 2>my show, will you let them know where to find you.

1573
01:43:05.720 --> 01:43:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, you can find a Plurable Nation on every podcast

1574
01:43:09.760 --> 01:43:13.399
<v Speaker 1>platform plus on Rumble. You can catch me on Instagram

1575
01:43:13.439 --> 01:43:17.479
<v Speaker 1>at Deplorable Janet. You can catch me on x at

1576
01:43:17.560 --> 01:43:21.800
<v Speaker 1>no Janet Kate. Now there you go.

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01:43:22.680 --> 01:43:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Wonderful, always a pleasure. Thank you so much.

1578
01:43:25.720 --> 01:43:26.800
<v Speaker 3>Oh love having you.

1579
01:43:26.920 --> 01:43:30.239
<v Speaker 1>We could literally talk for twelve hours and still not

1580
01:43:30.399 --> 01:43:31.199
<v Speaker 1>be talking.

1581
01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:37.159
<v Speaker 2>We should do a lady's marathon sometime. It would be fun. Well,

1582
01:43:37.439 --> 01:43:39.840
<v Speaker 2>I have to get up. We went back.

1583
01:43:40.279 --> 01:43:43.279
<v Speaker 3>We have to take pee breaks and stuff for sure.

1584
01:43:43.680 --> 01:43:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, so thank you for tuning in to another episode.

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01:43:49.279 --> 01:43:51.359
<v Speaker 3>Ladies and gentlemen, We hope.

1586
01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:54.680
<v Speaker 1>You had some light bulbs go off in your head,

1587
01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:57.199
<v Speaker 1>or hope you learned something that you didn't know before.

1588
01:43:57.920 --> 01:43:59.560
<v Speaker 3>So for me and.

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01:44:00.000 --> 01:44:02.840
<v Speaker 1>Poor Heidi, thank you so much and we'll see.

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01:44:02.640 --> 01:44:04.279
<v Speaker 3>You next time. Have a good one.
