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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Big for Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron.

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<v Speaker 1>In this show, we go beyond the campfire stories to

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<v Speaker 1>bring you first hand encounters from people who say they've

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<v Speaker 1>seen something impossible. From backwoods trails and remote mountain haulers

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<v Speaker 1>to quiet farms and crowded highways. The stories come from everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and each one leaves us with more questions than answers.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the voices of the people who've lived it.

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<v Speaker 1>To settle in, because today you'll hear another account that

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<v Speaker 1>just might change the way you see the woods forever.

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<v Speaker 1>So stay with us, all right, Big for Society. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got the privilege of talking to Joe today. Joe is

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<v Speaker 1>a listener of the show, has experienced some really interesting

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<v Speaker 1>things in different states among the years. But thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on to the show today.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it going, sir?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you're welcome. Man. It's going great. It's a very

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<v Speaker 2>nice day here in Missouri.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to hear more about what you've experienced. I

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<v Speaker 1>know we'll be talking about some different states that usually

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<v Speaker 1>have some really interesting things happen in those states. So

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<v Speaker 1>feel free Joe to take us back as far as

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<v Speaker 1>you need to when you started to have some of

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<v Speaker 1>these interactions with Bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we'll start with Arkansas because that was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much the very first state. I was born on the

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<v Speaker 2>Gulf Coast in Mississippi, but I've lived most of my

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<v Speaker 2>life in central Arkansas. So we had a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>us were truck drivers at the time. So there's like

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<v Speaker 2>seven of us that decided to lease some property from

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<v Speaker 2>a paper company in north central Arkansas, op the neo's

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<v Speaker 2>arts and we leave. It was right at five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>acres of land, and I don't really want to say

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<v Speaker 2>where that's at because we still have that lease, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want anybody trying to go in there and

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<v Speaker 2>then get hurt and then try to see this kind

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<v Speaker 2>of legal thing. You can understand that. But so north

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<v Speaker 2>central Arkansas, we hunted there for years, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>what they called a rescue driver, so I would sit

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<v Speaker 2>at home with my truck for weeks on in if

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<v Speaker 2>somebody's truck broke down, I might run all the way

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<v Speaker 2>to California and pick up their trailer and deliver their

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<v Speaker 2>load from them. So I only work, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one or two weeks a month, So I would go

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<v Speaker 2>up to this property and I would stay there for

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<v Speaker 2>weeks at a time by my a boat, hunted. I

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<v Speaker 2>was an avid bow hunter, gear hunter. Everything was great.

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<v Speaker 2>This property we had was a pine forest on top

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<v Speaker 2>of a mountain in the Ozarks. We had two very

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<v Speaker 2>nice creeks at the bottom of the mountains, just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>They were full of little streamed by us and brim

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that. You could go fish. We would

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<v Speaker 2>go camp in the summertime. Never had any issues. I

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<v Speaker 2>would love to be up there by myself and just

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<v Speaker 2>camp out. Well, then they started putting in natural gas

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<v Speaker 2>pipelines and that's kind of when things got started. So

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<v Speaker 2>right outside of our main gate there's a natural firebreak

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<v Speaker 2>a trail that I went up there one weekend in October.

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<v Speaker 2>This was in twenty fourteen, and I'm going up there

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure everybody's ready for dear season. I'm off

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<v Speaker 2>there on the road that are all over the country,

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<v Speaker 2>so I go put corn in their feeders and make

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<v Speaker 2>sure their stands are good. And I'm up there by

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<v Speaker 2>myself with a boat, and I go down this one

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<v Speaker 2>fire break that borders are property, and I noticed there's

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<v Speaker 2>like these three really large rocks stacked on top of

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<v Speaker 2>each other, right in the middle of the path, and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was odd. I was like, somebody's trying

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<v Speaker 2>to sneak in on our property and they're using this

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<v Speaker 2>as a marker on where they need to turn and

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<v Speaker 2>go into their stand, but as a lecture. The right

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<v Speaker 2>there's an old oak tree that had been falling down,

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<v Speaker 2>probably for ten or twelve years, just laying on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why would somebody need a marker when all

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<v Speaker 2>they have to do is walk down the trail and

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<v Speaker 2>see the old oak tree so they knew where to turn.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't make any sense. So I just I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of took my foot and I pushed over those stacked rocks,

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<v Speaker 2>and I went on and checked everybody's stands, and I

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<v Speaker 2>went to where we had a camp site on the

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<v Speaker 2>very top of the mountain. And I didn't even bring

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<v Speaker 2>a tint. I was just going to sleep in my

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<v Speaker 2>truck for the night. But I made a small campfire,

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<v Speaker 2>made me a sandwich, pulled out a bag of chips,

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<v Speaker 2>eat my dinner, and I was just about ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go to bed, and the most god awful screw you

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard come from, Like I think it comes from

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<v Speaker 2>where those pipelines peed together, because it made like like

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<v Speaker 2>an interstate through the mountains, through the woods, and every

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<v Speaker 2>hair on my body raised up. I've never heard of

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that before, especially not out there. I put

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<v Speaker 2>my campfire out, I got in my truck, and I

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<v Speaker 2>left because I'm thinking, I'm out here all by myself

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<v Speaker 2>with a bow and arrow. Nobody knows where I'm at.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm way out in the middle of these mountains, so

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<v Speaker 2>I leave. I go find a hotel at one of

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<v Speaker 2>the closest towns too, and I stay in my hotel

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<v Speaker 2>all night, and I say I'm not going back there

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<v Speaker 2>until daylight. So at daylight I got up. I drove

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<v Speaker 2>back to camp. Someone one of our friends, just for

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<v Speaker 2>just so we won't get his name away, I'll call

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<v Speaker 2>him Bob, one of the guys that came in during

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the night with his camper trailer. And

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<v Speaker 2>he usually brings the camper trailer in around October and

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<v Speaker 2>then doesn't take it out until December. Well, on my

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<v Speaker 2>way in to hunt, I noticed that his camper trailer

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<v Speaker 2>was there, so he must be on a stand. I

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<v Speaker 2>went and hunted that morning unsuccessfully. I didn't see anything

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<v Speaker 2>as I'm coming back out, I know to sees as camper.

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<v Speaker 2>So I stopped and talked to him, and I tell

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<v Speaker 2>him about what I heard the night before, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny. You should mention that he goes last year

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<v Speaker 2>when nobody was up here and I was here by myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I was laying in my camper, and it sounded like

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<v Speaker 2>a freight train came through the woods and it stopped

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<v Speaker 2>right at the back of my camper, and I never

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<v Speaker 2>heard another noise. He's the only one that doesn't laugh

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<v Speaker 2>at me about believing at Bigfoot. But so to get

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<v Speaker 2>back to my story, two weekends later, Arkansas has a

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<v Speaker 2>special modern arms season. It's only like for one weekend

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<v Speaker 2>and it's just to kill a dough It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like a deprivation hunt. So me and a friend decide

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to go up there and we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>try to kill some meat for the freezer before the

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<v Speaker 2>actual season opens. So this time we have his tint

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like a Coleman pop up tent cabin tent.

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<v Speaker 2>So at the very center of it, it's like six

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<v Speaker 2>foot tall, so you can stand up in it and

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<v Speaker 2>get dressed, but it sets up really quick and tears

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<v Speaker 2>down really quick. So we had set this tent up

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<v Speaker 2>and we went out scouting around picked out where we

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to hunt for the next morning. Well, we had

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<v Speaker 2>rain moving in. It was very cloudy that night, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was supposed to rain the next day, but we

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to hunt the morning before the strong storms got there.

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<v Speaker 2>So once again built a little campfire. We had a

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<v Speaker 2>radio on, and then we got ready and we were like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's go to bed and get some rest. We

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<v Speaker 2>got to get up early and go hunting. We put

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<v Speaker 2>out the campfire. We both crawled into the tent and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right there on that edge of sleep, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you get to where that edge of sleep where you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not completely asleep, but you're not awake either, And

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<v Speaker 2>I felt him tap my legs and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what he goes, sh listen, And whenever I came awake,

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<v Speaker 2>I could hear the guttural breathing. It wasn't growling. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like a really fat drunk guy snoring almost. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't describe it the way this breathing was, but

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<v Speaker 2>every time it breathed out, it rattled my chest. I

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<v Speaker 2>could feel it in my chest, and it was maybe

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<v Speaker 2>ten foot behind our tent. But you know how you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear when someone is talking from the left or

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<v Speaker 2>right or over there. This thing was above our tent.

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<v Speaker 2>It was taller than our tent, and it must have

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<v Speaker 2>had the biggest chest cavity of anything I've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not a bear. If it had to have

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<v Speaker 2>been a bear, it had to have been like one

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<v Speaker 2>of those Yukon gold giant brown bears or something, and

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<v Speaker 2>it had to have been standing up on its feet.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of our weapons were stealing my truck in bags unloaded.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said it was, it was very cloudy, rain

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<v Speaker 2>was coming in. It was a very dark. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no name, there was no stars, and we're just laying

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<v Speaker 2>there in pitch dark blackness. The only thing I could

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<v Speaker 2>think was I had a pocket knife, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>pulled my pocket knife out and I opened it up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a death grip on that pocket knife,

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<v Speaker 2>and I laid it on my chest. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>if this thing's going to get us, it's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to go down without a fight. I've never been so

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<v Speaker 2>scared of anything in my entire life. At the time,

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<v Speaker 2>I was forty three years old. I've never heard anything

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and it's right there. It's right outside the tent.

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<v Speaker 2>So about fifteen or twenty minutes goes by. It never

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<v Speaker 2>touches the tent, It never throws anything at us, It

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<v Speaker 2>never makes any noise other than the breathing. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you slowly start to hear the breathing going away, like

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<v Speaker 2>it's walking away. And it's a pine forest, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>pine needles are covered ground, so it's not like you

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<v Speaker 2>have dry leaves or you can hear footprints walking away.

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<v Speaker 2>It just kind of disappears and we end up falling sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm somewhere around four or five am. I wake up.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go to the bathroom, so I just

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<v Speaker 2>do what I normally do, throw my cover off of me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I start crawling towards the edge of the tent

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<v Speaker 2>and I just got to unzip the tent when I

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<v Speaker 2>realized I still have the knocks in my hand, and

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<v Speaker 2>that brings back, Okay, what just happened, And so I

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<v Speaker 2>freeze and I just start listening to everything around me,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can hear the breathing again, but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>behind our tents. It sounds like it's across the logging

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<v Speaker 2>road that we drove in on, and I know what's

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<v Speaker 2>across that road. It's a bunch of its that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like a small thicket, very sick, dense brush rowed

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<v Speaker 2>up and it sounded like it was behind that. And

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<v Speaker 2>so once again I told myself, I am not getting

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<v Speaker 2>out of this tent until daylight, until I can see

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<v Speaker 2>what is going on, especially without a gun. I am.

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<v Speaker 2>So somehow I managed to lay back down and go

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep. The next thing I know, the sun was up,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll wake up and I look at my friend

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<v Speaker 2>and he's waking up, and we just kind of look

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<v Speaker 2>at each other. We crawl over unzipped the tent. The

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<v Speaker 2>first thing we do is run to the truck, grab

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<v Speaker 2>both of our rifles, load them up, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>use the bathroom. We hunted that morning successfully did not

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<v Speaker 2>see any deer whatsoever, again, which is unusual for that place.

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<v Speaker 2>The rain started picking up and sums were moving in.

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<v Speaker 2>So we went back and we broke down that camp

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<v Speaker 2>he's ever been a believer in these things. So that

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<v Speaker 2>was Arkansas, and we still have that property there, although

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<v Speaker 2>not camped there or been back since my incident. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I went back one time in the daylight to drive

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<v Speaker 2>meet doctor jeffan Over him and Cliff Brockman at one

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<v Speaker 2>of the Bigfoot conferences there in Pocatello. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>great day and I talked with doctor jeffan Over him

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<v Speaker 2>very smart, very scientific. He applies the scientific method to everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I talked to him about the stack rocks,

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, well, you prove that bigfoot stack those up?

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<v Speaker 2>And I go, no, I cannot, and he goes, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't prove that bigfoot stacks rocks. We can't prove

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<v Speaker 2>that they make structures. We can't prove anything because we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have somebody like Jane Goodall to go out there

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<v Speaker 2>and you live with the family of them and watch them.

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<v Speaker 2>And the scientific mythic says that we have to witness

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<v Speaker 2>this behavior of them to be able to know that

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<v Speaker 2>they were the ones who did it, although I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know anyone else who would do it, but that's just science.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because you believe a man murdered somebody does not

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<v Speaker 2>mean he did unless you actually seen there or have proof.

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<v Speaker 2>So then the very next year after I got to

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<v Speaker 2>meet with them and talk to them, a deer hunting

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<v Speaker 2>trip I had in Idaho. Once again, I'm by myself

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<v Speaker 2>out in the middle of the mountains, so I've always

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<v Speaker 2>noticed these deer where I fish at up on the mountain.

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<v Speaker 2>So I decided, hey, I'll give that a try and

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<v Speaker 2>see if there's anything there in the fall. So I

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<v Speaker 2>parked at my fishing the spot on the Snake River,

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<v Speaker 2>very beautiful, heavy trout river. I left my truck and

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<v Speaker 2>a ridge that I could oversee that had a small

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<v Speaker 2>now what would you call it? It was like a

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<v Speaker 2>small creek coming out of the side of the mountain,

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit of water, and like deer had

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<v Speaker 2>been in there, he's in natural water instead of going

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<v Speaker 2>down to the river. And I looked up on the

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<v Speaker 2>ridge and there's a whitetail buck up there. I was like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I got in here too late because I don't go

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<v Speaker 2>cuts over into this heavy stuff, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's a trail up there. So I walked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure enough, there's a big game trail up there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I started following the game trail to the west. Walking

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<v Speaker 2>right along the side of the mountain, I came upon

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<v Speaker 2>the track that I sent you the picture of, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even sure if it was a real track

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<v Speaker 2>or not. And then I took about five more steps

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<v Speaker 2>and I come out into this water in between two

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<v Speaker 2>mountains where the snowmelt and all the rain runs down,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what you will see on the picture of

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<v Speaker 2>the tree. And it's really hard packed, mostly rot, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of sage brush things like that. But then I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen this tree and it has a limb ripped off

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<v Speaker 2>of it. It's a completely green live tree. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever built a campfire, you know you can break deadsticks

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<v Speaker 2>they break right away. But I'm sorry, if you break

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<v Speaker 2>a green one, the bark doesn't just break. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to kind of like strip it off. And that's what

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<v Speaker 2>I was seeing on this tree limb. And it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>I mean fifteen yards away from the print that I've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>And I walked up to the tree and curiosity had

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<v Speaker 2>got the best of me. So I started doing the

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<v Speaker 2>circles around the tree looking for that tree lamb, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, what could have broke it off? It could

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<v Speaker 2>even if it was a storm, it would have just

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<v Speaker 2>snatched off and it would still be hanging by some

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<v Speaker 2>of that green bark. Or you know, maybe somebody walked

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<v Speaker 2>up this way and broke it off and threw it down.

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<v Speaker 2>But I walked circles around that tree up to about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty yards out. I never found that tree lamb. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the picture taking a picture of

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<v Speaker 2>it going up the mountain, which is that wash has

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<v Speaker 2>turned into another main game trail. It's easier for the

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<v Speaker 2>elk and the deer to move up and down the

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<v Speaker 2>mountain through that and climbing over all the rock. It

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<v Speaker 2>gets really dmp some dark up there, and I started

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<v Speaker 2>thinking to myself, you know, I've heard of them building

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<v Speaker 2>structures and bedding and stuff. Maybe it tore this limb

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<v Speaker 2>off and took it up there. But here we go again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm by myself in the middle of the mountains and

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<v Speaker 2>no one knows where I'm at, so I did not

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<v Speaker 2>pursue it any farther. I turned and walked down the

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<v Speaker 2>wash back to the logging road coming in beside the river,

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<v Speaker 2>and went back to my truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe, real quick, I'm looking at the photo right now,

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<v Speaker 1>But how how tall off the ground would you estimate

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<v Speaker 1>that break to be?

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<v Speaker 2>That break think was probably about six and a half foot.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it would be easy for me to reach

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<v Speaker 2>up there and grab that limb, but it was about

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<v Speaker 2>two inches in diameter. I don't think I could have

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<v Speaker 2>snapped that off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is definitely a sizeable branch. I would agree

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<v Speaker 1>with you on that estimate of how wide around it

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<v Speaker 1>it is. And I mean you can see the trail

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<v Speaker 1>pretty close to it too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the footprint was actually pointed in that direction

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<v Speaker 2>where I came out onto that wash. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>right on the side of it. It was like the

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<v Speaker 2>only possible place you could have actually made a footprint

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<v Speaker 2>was right there because everything else was either overgrown or

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<v Speaker 2>it was rotted. It was like that was the only

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<v Speaker 2>place that had a little bit of uncompacted dirt, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. And I've put it on social

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<v Speaker 2>media and I've got slammed for it, Like, while is

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<v Speaker 2>there only one prant? Oh, it looks like a cowl

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<v Speaker 2>or it could have been a bare double stamps. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying it's big foot. It just got my curity

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<v Speaker 2>curiosity to rouse why it was there. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a few yards from it, I have this tree with

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<v Speaker 2>this limb ripped off. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very weird. And you said on the Snake.

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<v Speaker 2>River right, Yes, it was right outside of a Palisades reservoir.

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<v Speaker 2>We lived not far from there were We lived like

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and a half hour and forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>from Yellowstone Park. We lived there by Wyoming and Montana line.

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<v Speaker 2>So if you bring up a Palisades reservoir, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be right there on the Wyoming line.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, absolutely, because you've got Palisades, But then you've also

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<v Speaker 1>got Swan Valley right there. Right, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And this was to the south of Swan Valley. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a dirt road that goes up on the south side

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<v Speaker 2>of the Snake River there at Swan Valley, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was off to the south on one of those before

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<v Speaker 2>you get to the move.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Yeah, this this location has come up on the

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<v Speaker 1>show before. It was back in episode eight fourteen. There

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<v Speaker 1>were a ton of accounts that were sure there's been

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of things out of happened around Palisades Reservoir

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, going back to late nineties, sightings and

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<v Speaker 1>tracks and multiple tracks, screams, roars being growled at. So

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<v Speaker 1>I am not actually even things that sounded like the

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<v Speaker 1>Sierra sounds. So I'm not surprised that if that's where

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<v Speaker 1>you're you know, doing your hunting, that you're you're finding

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. I mean, it is a really active

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<v Speaker 1>spot in Idaho.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I would have done that while I lived there.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd done a little bit more investigator right there you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go, there you go, I mean, yeah, you never know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I've been trying to put this map together.

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<v Speaker 1>I have on my website of all like the different

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<v Speaker 1>encounters I've taken over the years because like some places

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<v Speaker 1>you would have no idea unless you have access to

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<v Speaker 1>the information.

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<v Speaker 2>This place in Idaho, I mean you have this is

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<v Speaker 2>a very popular trout fishing location.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You have like homes that are along that dirt road.

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<v Speaker 2>You have you know, people's vacation homes. They have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>trout hunters and lodges and stuff like that. And the

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<v Speaker 2>footprint and the tree was like, I don't know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a quarter of a mile behind them. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't think it would be that close to civilization, but

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely that. It is weird when you start to see

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in civilized area, but it's I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>out of the question for sure. Did you have when

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<v Speaker 1>you lived in that area, did you ever talk to

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<v Speaker 1>any neighbors to see if you know, they had ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen any weird stuff or things like that around the reservoir?

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<v Speaker 2>I do, And I have stickers on my throat, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know sometimes I've got a big tattoo in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of my leg of big Foot and people stop

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<v Speaker 2>to me and talk to me. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>do it, so that I can learn things. Not everybody talks,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what we are now, They don't they were

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<v Speaker 2>kind of scared that people are going to laugh at them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care if people laugh at me. It's I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not saying that it's one true. I'm asking a question,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, what did you run into? What happened

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<v Speaker 2>to you? And I have had several people talk to

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<v Speaker 2>me about their experiences, uh some of them in Idaho.

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<v Speaker 2>One guy that I actually worked with said that something

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<v Speaker 2>through a rocket has head about the size of a softball,

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<v Speaker 2>and it hit a tree right in front of him,

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<v Speaker 2>and it hit so hard that it sounded like a

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<v Speaker 2>gun going off, and he got scared and ran out

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<v Speaker 2>of there and got back to his truck and left

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<v Speaker 2>and he's never been back. He also had extremely good

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<v Speaker 2>pictures on his phone of a trackway that he found

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<v Speaker 2>in Washington, where his parents lived, and I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was very interesting. So I'm not really sure, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm telling you what happened to me. And

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<v Speaker 2>as far as the one in Arkansas goes, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never been more scared of anything in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>But it didn't try to attack me. It didn't, it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do anything. It was like it was more curious

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<v Speaker 2>than anything. It just kind of stood behind the tent

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<v Speaker 2>and walked stuff. And the odd thing is we had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of raccoons there in Arkansas, big ones. They

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<v Speaker 2>would have run up and stealed the chips out of

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<v Speaker 2>your hand while you were eating them. They were brave.

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<v Speaker 2>But my buddy had left it an open bag of

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<v Speaker 2>Cheetos on the chair when we went to bed and

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<v Speaker 2>part of the families. Nothing came to our campground that

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<v Speaker 2>night and took anything. If it would have been a bear,

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<v Speaker 2>I could see it stealing food. Raccoons, Yeah, but nothing

422
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 2>was touched. Even when we went and hunted the next

423
00:31:44.839 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>morning and come back and broke the campdown, everything was

424
00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:53.720
<v Speaker 2>still there. There had been no animals around our campground

425
00:31:54.400 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>for that entire time.

426
00:31:59.440 --> 00:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, bringing up the Arkansas situation. I did have

427
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.640
<v Speaker 1>a few questions for you about that, And I know

428
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 1>it sounded like you weren't really in the mindset that

429
00:32:12.400 --> 00:32:15.519
<v Speaker 1>next morning to go looking around at stuff, just because

430
00:32:15.559 --> 00:32:19.960
<v Speaker 1>you're like, get the weapon, use the facilities, right, But

431
00:32:20.079 --> 00:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>did you notice like anything of the ordinary, like any

432
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.440
<v Speaker 1>tracks on the ground or that was just totally out

433
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>of your mind.

434
00:32:28.240 --> 00:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, I did try to look for something around the campground,

435
00:32:33.559 --> 00:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>but it's a pine forest. Like I said, everything is

436
00:32:36.480 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 2>completely covered with pine needles, so you really don't get

437
00:32:41.160 --> 00:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>any like crushed down brush or footprints in the mug

438
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. It's just a really thick layer

439
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:57.119
<v Speaker 2>of dead pond needles. So that being said, we wouldn't

440
00:32:57.160 --> 00:33:01.960
<v Speaker 2>really hanging out that much, you know, to do that much. Lookingly,

441
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:05.799
<v Speaker 2>we kind of loaded our rifles, got in the truck,

442
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:08.359
<v Speaker 2>drove on down to the other end of our camp,

443
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 2>and hundreds a little bit until it started ringing, and

444
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.599
<v Speaker 2>then we come back, just broke everything down and left

445
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:16.759
<v Speaker 2>as quick as possible.

446
00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha when you were there during that time, besides the

447
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:30.079
<v Speaker 1>very just the strange breathing noise, did you guys hear

448
00:33:30.160 --> 00:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>any other sounds that were that didn't really fit the area,

449
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:36.480
<v Speaker 1>anything else strange that you were hearing?

450
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was nothing nothing, No birds, no frogs, no crickets.

451
00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Everything was completely silent except for that. And I've been asked, well,

452
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>did you see a shadow on the tent? Well, no,

453
00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>because the moon went now, the stars went out. It

454
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>was cloudy. It was like laying in pitch darkness just

455
00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 2>listening to something right behind you and that's all you

456
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:10.639
<v Speaker 2>can hear. Wow.

457
00:34:11.400 --> 00:34:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Uh at any time where there are any trees or

458
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:21.400
<v Speaker 1>stick breaks or maybe trees getting sounded like trees fell,

459
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>anything like that.

460
00:34:25.000 --> 00:34:28.280
<v Speaker 2>No, nothing, No coyotes, and we have a lot of

461
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>coyotes up there, and usually as soon as the sun

462
00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 2>goes down, you can hear the packs running chasing rabbits

463
00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:44.159
<v Speaker 2>or whatever they're doing. We heard nothing, nothing whatsoever. We wow.

464
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:49.679
<v Speaker 1>So it sounds like you the way you're explaining it

465
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:54.039
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you're in that that overpowering silence where it's like,

466
00:34:54.239 --> 00:34:58.719
<v Speaker 1>so there's nothing and it's just I don't know if

467
00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you've ever experienced that where it's like it's hard to

468
00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>think because it is so so quiet.

469
00:35:06.159 --> 00:35:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And as I was panicked, I really was, and

470
00:35:11.079 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I was gripped in that pocket night and I don't

471
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.639
<v Speaker 2>understand how I fell asleep, because I mean almost as

472
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:26.039
<v Speaker 2>immediately as we stopped hearing it, I was out. I

473
00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 2>fell asleep and I didn't wake up until I needed

474
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:32.920
<v Speaker 2>to go to the restroom. Most people would have been

475
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:35.960
<v Speaker 2>panicking and go, Okay, it's gone, let's get in our truck,

476
00:35:36.119 --> 00:35:41.199
<v Speaker 2>let's go. We fell asleep and slept the whole night.

477
00:35:46.519 --> 00:35:49.519
<v Speaker 1>That that is the thing you hear that you hear

478
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:53.119
<v Speaker 1>that a lot in these and it's just it's just

479
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:55.519
<v Speaker 1>one of those weird things you just cannot explain. Not

480
00:35:55.599 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 1>even any owls in the area.

481
00:36:00.079 --> 00:36:01.639
<v Speaker 2>No, nothing.

482
00:36:03.559 --> 00:36:06.679
<v Speaker 1>That that is just that's a freaking night dude. My goodness.

483
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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

484
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<v Speaker 1>So you've had that in Arkansas and then the things

485
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 1>you you found in Idaho. Is that the last time

486
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:22.960
<v Speaker 1>that you've experienced anything out of the ordinary or have

487
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:28.519
<v Speaker 1>there been things where you are currently as well?

488
00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Well? I haven't. I haven't been able to get back

489
00:36:32.039 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 2>out there here lately the past couple of years. They've

490
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 2>had to put me on disability. I was an iron

491
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 2>worker and a loader and everything. My back's gotten bad.

492
00:36:43.199 --> 00:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Hopefully the end of September I'll get my last back

493
00:36:46.960 --> 00:36:49.239
<v Speaker 2>surgery so that I can get back out there. And

494
00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:52.679
<v Speaker 2>so I haven't been able to hunt or do anything

495
00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 2>like that in a couple of years, but I'm hoping

496
00:36:57.239 --> 00:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>to get back out there. We still have property in Arkansas.

497
00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:03.599
<v Speaker 2>The guys want me to come back down and hunt

498
00:37:03.639 --> 00:37:07.760
<v Speaker 2>with them after I get my back surgery. I'm hoping

499
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>next year I will actually be able to get back

500
00:37:10.880 --> 00:37:15.360
<v Speaker 2>down there into Arkansas, and this time is not just

501
00:37:15.519 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 2>going to be hunting. For deer. You know it's going

502
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:23.320
<v Speaker 2>to be looking and seeing if there's any signs or

503
00:37:24.119 --> 00:37:28.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, you go through stuff like that. It makes

504
00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>you look at things differently, it really does. I used

505
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:37.800
<v Speaker 2>to love the woods. I would be on my tree

506
00:37:37.880 --> 00:37:42.039
<v Speaker 2>stand at least a half hour before daylight and it's

507
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.920
<v Speaker 2>just magic out in the woods. You hear the birds

508
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 2>wake up, the squirrels start coming down right at daylight,

509
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 2>the forest starts looking up, all the animals are getting out.

510
00:37:55.719 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 2>It's purely magic. Yeah, I don't do that anymore. I

511
00:38:02.000 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 2>am not going into the woods unless it's daylight. I

512
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:10.599
<v Speaker 2>have to be able to see what's around me. I

513
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:18.199
<v Speaker 2>really do. I get scared. The woods aren't the same anymore,

514
00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:24.320
<v Speaker 2>not like they used to be. And I think if

515
00:38:24.360 --> 00:38:28.760
<v Speaker 2>people ever experiencing things like I did, they're not going

516
00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:30.599
<v Speaker 2>to be the same for you either. You're going to

517
00:38:30.679 --> 00:38:31.760
<v Speaker 2>look at them differently.

518
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 1>It is. It's a weird experience, I don't think. I

519
00:38:40.519 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>think it's hard for people to understand that and let

520
00:38:43.000 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 1>until they get in the situation like you've been in,

521
00:38:46.119 --> 00:38:51.000
<v Speaker 1>where you experience that thing that is just extremely strange

522
00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and has just affected the rest of your life. Now,

523
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>is it Okay to mention where your current state is.

524
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, uh, we just recently moved to Jefferson c Missouri.

525
00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>Gotcha. So you're down in Missouri.

526
00:39:08.800 --> 00:39:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Now you.

527
00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Have the tattoo on the back of your leg. You

528
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:14.880
<v Speaker 1>can't really get rid of that, so you have at

529
00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>least some form of a big footfalling you around. Have

530
00:39:18.480 --> 00:39:20.679
<v Speaker 1>you gotten people down there that have been like, hey,

531
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:23.039
<v Speaker 1>I've I've had stuff happen down here too.

532
00:39:25.639 --> 00:39:30.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Absolutely. I went to the ose Art big Foot

533
00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Conference last year. I was hoping to go again this year,

534
00:39:36.000 --> 00:39:40.760
<v Speaker 2>but just with medical conditions, I just can't get down there.

535
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:46.840
<v Speaker 2>But that was in Springfield, Missouri last year, and I

536
00:39:47.000 --> 00:39:49.440
<v Speaker 2>talked to one other guys that was in the audience,

537
00:39:50.519 --> 00:39:55.039
<v Speaker 2>and he was he was kind of a believer, but

538
00:39:55.159 --> 00:39:59.480
<v Speaker 2>he didn't know what to believe. And I talked to

539
00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:03.760
<v Speaker 2>him in the audience and he said that he was there.

540
00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:09.280
<v Speaker 2>He got elected from his small town in South Missouries

541
00:40:09.400 --> 00:40:13.079
<v Speaker 2>to come there and learn about it because they had

542
00:40:13.599 --> 00:40:20.800
<v Speaker 2>so many occurrences there, like they've seen them coming out

543
00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:24.079
<v Speaker 2>of their sheds and their barns and stuff and running

544
00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:27.599
<v Speaker 2>off into the woods. And I was trying to talk

545
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.559
<v Speaker 2>to him. I told my story a little bit, and

546
00:40:31.599 --> 00:40:35.480
<v Speaker 2>then they sent everybody to lunch. Well, when we come

547
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.960
<v Speaker 2>back from lunch, I really wanted to talk to him

548
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:41.079
<v Speaker 2>and find out what town this was that he had

549
00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:46.960
<v Speaker 2>left and he didn't come back. I've also ran into

550
00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:53.039
<v Speaker 2>people at grocery stores and things like that. We'll say, oor,

551
00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>you know you a big foot hunter and I go, well,

552
00:40:56.400 --> 00:40:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of a researcher, or what do you got.

553
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>They'll tell me, you know, one time when I was

554
00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.599
<v Speaker 2>a kid, this happened, and so yeah, it's a great

555
00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:11.559
<v Speaker 2>way to meet people. And I believe the most important

556
00:41:11.599 --> 00:41:16.199
<v Speaker 2>thing we can do as far as researchers or a

557
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:23.559
<v Speaker 2>bigfoot community is listen to what other people have done.

558
00:41:24.519 --> 00:41:26.079
<v Speaker 2>Like I say, we're not going to get to go

559
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.800
<v Speaker 2>out there and live with a family of bigfoot and

560
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.480
<v Speaker 2>see what they do and record it all down. So

561
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:39.199
<v Speaker 2>our best information comes from people like me, people that

562
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>have seen something, They've had something happen to them, and

563
00:41:43.480 --> 00:41:47.639
<v Speaker 2>then maybe somebody on your show hears about it and go, hey,

564
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.639
<v Speaker 2>you know what, that happened to me too, and so

565
00:41:50.800 --> 00:41:53.480
<v Speaker 2>maybe they'll make a report of it, and so we

566
00:41:53.559 --> 00:41:57.719
<v Speaker 2>can start gathering this information up a little by little

567
00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:01.280
<v Speaker 2>one goes, hey, this guy over here, Thank Lewis said this,

568
00:42:01.639 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>and that matches the same thing in the sky room Pennsylvania,

569
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:09.719
<v Speaker 2>or you know. I mean, that's how we're getting all

570
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:13.119
<v Speaker 2>our information of how they behave and what they do.

571
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great idea. And the other interesting

572
00:42:18.079 --> 00:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>thing is, I mean there are people that say they

573
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:25.280
<v Speaker 1>have I mean that they are I guess not to

574
00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 1>the extent of doctor Jane Goodall, but that they have

575
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.039
<v Speaker 1>them on their property and that it's like a habituation

576
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:38.519
<v Speaker 1>thing going on. But yeah, it's it's interesting when you

577
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:41.639
<v Speaker 1>listen to all the accounts, you know, and maybe not

578
00:42:44.440 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe not kick some to the side, right and as

579
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 1>you were saying, you know, kind of listen to everything

580
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:54.039
<v Speaker 1>that's going out there at all parts of the US

581
00:42:54.239 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>and actually the world really. I mean there's stuff we

582
00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>can hear from other countries that applies to the US

583
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:00.880
<v Speaker 1>to situation as well.

584
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:10.079
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean there's just those little small things

585
00:43:10.119 --> 00:43:14.559
<v Speaker 2>that somebody might tell you a story of something they've

586
00:43:14.599 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 2>seen and there's one little small part of it that

587
00:43:18.400 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 2>matches with somebody else's story, and it matches with somebody

588
00:43:22.159 --> 00:43:25.239
<v Speaker 2>else's story, and so that we can get to build

589
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.599
<v Speaker 2>a picture of it. I mean like you would do

590
00:43:28.679 --> 00:43:32.320
<v Speaker 2>if you were, say a murderer investigator and you went

591
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:35.559
<v Speaker 2>out and interviewed everybody and showing that one little thing

592
00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>that ties everything together. And that's kind of what I

593
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:45.639
<v Speaker 2>think is. I love listening to people's stories. I really

594
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:49.840
<v Speaker 2>love hearing their sightings because it gives us just that

595
00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>one little bit more of information every.

596
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:58.719
<v Speaker 1>Day, Absolutely, Joe. And that's part of why I do

597
00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:01.159
<v Speaker 1>what I do too. The main part is to give

598
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.679
<v Speaker 1>people a place to share where they don't have to

599
00:44:04.719 --> 00:44:07.679
<v Speaker 1>worry about, you know, being made fun of or anything

600
00:44:07.719 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like that. But it is also it's a learning experience

601
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.199
<v Speaker 1>for me as well. But you know, it's been fun

602
00:44:13.239 --> 00:44:15.239
<v Speaker 1>talking to you this afternoon, Joe. I want to make

603
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:18.360
<v Speaker 1>sure that you know you were able to share everything

604
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>that you came on the show to share today.

605
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think that that's about it. I'm just ready

606
00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.880
<v Speaker 2>to get Sergerie done. I'm ready to get back out

607
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:36.039
<v Speaker 2>there and put some boots on the ground and you know, see,

608
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:37.119
<v Speaker 2>we're looking find.

609
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Next absolutely well, once you're able to do so, and

610
00:44:41.039 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 1>if you do run into some other things, you know,

611
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>please reach out. We'd love to hear from you again

612
00:44:46.039 --> 00:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>and and hear any updates further down the road. But

613
00:44:49.559 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for coming on the show today, Joe, absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Thank you for listening to this episode of

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<v Speaker 1>com and that's where you can hear tomorrow's episode today

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<v Speaker 1>early in ad free and members only episodes every week. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a place to connect with other people that are

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<v Speaker 1>into the Bigfoot subject as much as you are. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>again for following along with the Big Fat Society until

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<v Speaker 1>next time. Keep your eyes open, trust your gut, and

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<v Speaker 1>never stop asking what else might be out there? And

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<v Speaker 1>see you in the woods.