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Speaker 1: I always see this right at the end of the year,
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thousand pound vehicles. I love the X seven. I love
the X five. My wife loved it too when she
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the X five and X seven compared to some of
the other vehicles in the same class.
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driving machine. And unless you've you've really, unless you've experienced
that for yourself, you're you're not going to understand why
these cars the drive. They're big cars obviously, like you said,
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they get good gas mileage. They they're they're reliable.
Speaker 2: Uh.
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X five Being a five seater, it's gonna be a
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perfect if you have a family want a little bit
extra room. It's they're they're just such good cars and
they're so well put together.
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Speaker 1: I was actually chatting about it with my wife last night,
She's like, I really liked number one of the performance
of the BMW when I was driving.
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down on that pedal. And then she actually liked the
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it's really improved over the years and it is the
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it's built, dear friend. The other thing you guys are
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They come in, they can mention myself for ESPN the
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Speaker 1: Detail on their current vehicle while they're test driving one
of these X fives or X sevens.
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Speaker 2: Love it, Joe Costello.
Speaker 1: Go on into BMW in Pleasant Grove and ask for
Joe in Pleasure Growth.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Joe. We'll catch up again soon.
Speaker 3: Okay, Thanks Ben.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into our second.
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Sports Court segment. It's got to play a little judge
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buy our good friends in Handy and Handy, Big from experience,
fall from attention. Each week we break down the real
life legal drama, intersecting with your favorite athletes, teams and leagues.
From contract disputes and NOL chaos, sideline scandals, in courtroom battles.
We're diving deep with Utah's most trusted injury attorneys, Garrett
and Pressed in Handy. Are they on the line yet?
Do we got them all right? We're gonna get them
on the line here momentarily. But a couple of the
topics we're gonna be delving into today, a hit way
too close to home. We don't like it. We don't
want to have to talk about. Cannard Davis Junior and
his legal drama. The local BYU basketball player arrested for
duy following a crash and the possession of drugs and
leads not guilty.
Speaker 2: Baby. Hopefully everything turns out for him, well for him.
Speaker 1: Danny Fraser, former BYU Cougar football players actually representing him,
and I was perusing Danny Fraser's law firms his website
Fraser Law Firm, that's Fraser Legal dot com. And he
actually he specializes as a criminal defense attorney, drug crimes, UI,
sex crimes, white collar crimes, theph crimes, domestic violence, assault
in violent crimes, federal crimes. Former BYU Baller on the
Gridiron is representing Cannar Davis Junior. So we'll find out
all the latest on that here momentarily, But we did
catch up with j Drew the Deseret News. He wrote
a piece pend a piece in the deserrat News dot
com The Way You basketball player Cannar Davis Junior was
charged with driving under the influence, a Class B to
misdemeanor in Provo City Justice Court late Tuesday afternoon. The
charge was filed a few hours after Provo police issued
a report indicating that Davis was allegedly in possession of
marijuana after being involved in a two car crash last
Thursday morning. The incident report did not indicate who caused
the accident or whether any of the drivers were issued
a citation for the crash that brought six Prova police
officers to the scene. Prosecuting Attorney Robert Trombley, I believe
I believe that's his name if I'm miss Trombley of
the Provo City Attorney's Office recommended a fine amount of
one thousand, three hundred ninety dollars in Judge Stephen H.
Schreiner was assigned to the case. Court document show. Shortly thereafter, Davis,
who turned twenty last January, entered a non or not
guilty plea and retained the counsel of south georgan attorney
Danny Fraser. The attorney submitted a demand for a jury
trial in the matter. According to court documents. Fraser, a
former Boa football player, also made a motion for discovery
to obtain relevant written or recorded statements of the defendant
and all other co defendants and all physical evidence seized
from the defendant and co defendants, among other requests. Wednesday,
Shriner scheduled a pre trial conference for January twelve, twenty
twenty six. As The Dezrat News reported Tuesday morning, after
obtaining the police report, Davis was cited for duy after
being given standard field sobriety tests and a drug recognition
evaluation and a blood urine test. The report noted that
there were drugs involved. The Desera News has also requested
the extent report from the last Thursday, eleven forty five
am two car crash at the intersection of nine hundred
West and Center Street in Provo, but the Provo Police
Department denied that grammar request, saying it is not a
not able to divulge any further additional information until the
Provo City Attorney's office has completed their proceedings. Davis the
company BA on its trip to Boston last week for
a game, and that then number seven Cougars lost eighty
six eighty four to number three Yukon. However, he did
not play, and after the game, head coach Kevin Young
said he was held out for violation of team rules.
After Tuesday's report was released, a by athletic spokesperson issued
this statement, Cannard Davis has been suspended for violation of
team rules. The length of the suspension is still to
be determined. Kevin Young actually reacted earlier this week to
the News. When asked, he stated this about the Kennard
Davis junior situation. I know exactly what happened. I am
very aware of all the details. But at the same time,
I'm going to let the school handle it the way
that they have asked me to handle it, and that
is for them to be the people that talk about it.
Speaker 2: That's what he stated.
Speaker 1: Also, if there is a forum where I am opened
up to speak on it further, I will.
Speaker 2: But I think to this point they have said what
they have said.
Speaker 1: Asked if it is safe to assume that Davis won't
play against Wisconsin, Young replied, I think it is safe,
but I also think there is a lot of stuff
still being sorted out. Kind of leaves an opening, a window,
if you will, of opportunity. The form and fashion in
which coach Kevin Young responded to these questions per Jay
Drew was one of maybe defiance or you know, kind
of alluding to there's gonna be more information dropping here
shortly needed to be sorted out earlier. Earlier in the
news conference, Young, who is in his second season at BYU,
was asked about his philosophy for instances where players violate
team rules. He said, this, do the right thing, and
if you don't, there's consequences based on our own internal
team rules and rules of the university. So I mean
there's nuances. But that's just my general philosophy. I'm trying
to get these guys to do the right thing and
at the same time, if there's ever a situation that
comes up where that is not the case, we handle
it appropriately.
Speaker 2: That is my philosophy. Let's get out to the hotline.
Speaker 1: Welcome in, handy and handy Garon, Preston, handy, ladies and
gentlemen on the line for another sports Course segment. Guys,
I was just breaking down some of the news and
notes coming out of the Canard Davis junior situation.
Speaker 2: What are you you are saying on this runt?
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, this is not this is not new news
relatively this is, but we're talking about it because of
Sports Court. As we know, last week starting guard for BYU,
Canard Davis was headed to the airport involved in a
car accident and as part of that car accident, the
police show up and they saw some things and noticed
some things and arrested Canard for suspicion of driving under
the influence. They also saw that there was a report
of marijuana in his car, so also reported in the
investigation of a police report came out that they had.
This is something that was obtained. I'm looking for it.
Essentially that they did some field sobriety tests and took
a year example, and ultimately he was charged with a
Class B misdemeanor dry and under the influence. What we've
learned recently, as that's the law enforcement side of things,
what we learned recently is that on Tuesday he entered
a not guilty plea. He is represented by Danny Fraser,
who is a you can confirm this Ben he was
a former BA football player.
Speaker 2: I think yes he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we kind of broke it all down.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you guys this because I went into
detail on this before we had you on.
Speaker 2: He's he pleads not guilty.
Speaker 1: Right, So you're sitting here, Okay, Well, the Myron Metcalf
report came out. It's like, hey, he had possession of marijuana,
he was driving under the influence. Explain the process of
pleading not guilty when it seems like outsiders like me
reading it's like, well, he's obviously guilty.
Speaker 2: He was driving on the interest and there was marijuana
on him or.
Speaker 1: Whatever, Like, give me a little bit more detail as
to you know, how you can step up here and
say you're not guilty. Now maybe he is not guilty,
Like I don't know. I'm just saying, like, what is
this process?
Speaker 6: Like, well, that's a good question. And Handy Hanny were
not a criminal defense law firm, but we understand it
to a degree. But that's a great question.
Speaker 7: If it were as.
Speaker 6: Simple as that been, we'd all be in big trouble.
If we were accused of something, charged with something, and boom,
we're guilty. But there's a what's called due process. And
the due process is for him to be charged, arrested.
He was arrested, charged, And what it does It goes
to a prosecuting attorney. Prosecuting attorney looks at the evidence
and kind of lines it up with hey, where does
this fit? Where does this fit? What can we prove?
Because in the end, the state, it's the state of Utah,
the prostitutent attorney, it's on them to prove everything, every element.
They have to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. And
that's through evidence. And if the police did their job
right and took down the stuff right, and there's stuff
I don't think I saw that there was a blood
alcohol it was they have they did a blood yearne test,
so there would be a blood alcohol reported. So we
don't know what that was showed up as. But it's
it's kind of right now with dance, you know, he
has to show up at court, and he entered a
not guilty plea. I mean potentially he could have entered
a guilty plea, but then that that sets him up
for not really great negotiation. And sometimes people enter a
no contest plea, but his is a no guilty please.
Speaker 7: Well, it's been reported also that.
Speaker 6: Prosecutor of Probo City, it turns out, recommended a flying
of thirteen ninety ninety dollars. That tells me that there's
also there's already some negotiations going on and potentially a
plea bargain going to be in place. But his attorney
did file the requisite responsive pleadings which he requested a
jury trial. I mean, you have to do that at
a certain time and your responsible. You know, this will
never make it to a jury. But if he didn't
do that, guess what down the road and that things
don't work out and it's all of a sudden going
to go to trial. Well, he doesn't get a jury,
it's got to be in front of a judge. So
you're just doing the things that you need to right now,
you know. So that's the criminal side of things. We'll
we'll hear what happens here and likely at plea bargain.
But as you know, in a b YU, there's also
the honor code. And I think it's kind of silly
to say at b YU because I think any team,
any team where the player had been arrested and charged
with the drivers and influence, they would take some some
you know, some type of measures against it. But the
team has it's been reported that he's been suspended for
an indeterminate amount of time. Kevin Young's statement, he came
out of Gray says, I know exactly what's been reported.
Speaker 7: I'm aware of the details. But at the same time, we're.
Speaker 6: Gonna let the school handle.
Speaker 7: It the way they want to.
Speaker 6: And you know, and uh and let them talk about it.
So he's handled the ways and it's going to go
through the normal process that goes through and hopefully, you know,
luckily no one was seriously injured in this, and we
haven't heard if there could potentially be a civil lawsuit,
there could be heard that he was banged up a
little bit, but that's all.
Speaker 7: We know for now.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next one. Local
sign gate. You fan issuing that you over signed loss.
What happened in this particular situation.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, this is the Utah BAU basketball game last
January twenty twenty five, and a couple of Utah fans,
wouldn't you know it, had some signs in the stadium.
There's actually some kids, apparently maybe preteen kids, and they
had a couple of what we're determined to be inappropriate
signs and his parents, the kid's parents, are sitting behind him,
and so the security officials there at the Huntsman Center
go down and say, hey, you got to take these
signs down. And allegedly, the way the lawsuit reads is
they take the science from the kids and rip them up.
And then mom gets upset and there's a back and
forth with security there at the Huntsman Center, and eventually
what happens is they boot her out of the stadium.
And again there's some allegations back and forth that she
put her hands on security. She denies that, and and
so as a result, they boot her out. And so
now she has brought a lawsuit against the university of
Utah claiming a few things. One is that that the
university didn't hand over certain documents which would have come
out in what's called a grammar request, the government records request.
She's claiming that, but kind of the big the bigger
issue is she's claiming that this is a civil rights violation.
She's she's claiming that she was targeted because of her race.
She's Latina, and she's and apparently speaks English but with
an accent. Again, this is reported in the in the lawsuit. Uh,
and that that's why she's thrown out. I mean, she's
obviously going to have to prove that, but these are
federal claims and so kind of takes it to a
new level. But again, I mean, just as we see
it over and over at games all over you know,
I mean, there are codes of conduct for fans, right
and if you violate those codes, you may be asked
to you know, be removed from a stadium. And we
see it happen all the time. But this one's resulting
a lawsuit, which is kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: MM.
Speaker 1: So what does it say what the what the signs
actually said in the in the lawsuit, Well.
Speaker 8: The signs, the signs said, uh b, why you went
to the Diddy party?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so you know, I know.
Speaker 7: And so.
Speaker 8: The Huntsman Center's Code of conduct says, if a sign
is you know, sexual in nature, that that's out of bounds.
And so, uh they were. They were asked to take
down the signs.
Speaker 7: There was also shut the fetch up?
Speaker 2: Oh shut? I like that one. That one I liked better.
That one's better.
Speaker 7: They got got taken out.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, gracious great balls of fire.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, crazy, crazy times, crazy times, no doubt about it.
Tyler Skaggs trial, This, this one's interesting here. So his
trial turns to squabble over late Major League baseball pitchers
lost earnings. A wrongful death lawsuit the family of deceased
pitcher Scott Tyler Skaggs filed against the Los Angeles Angels
reached a particularly nebulous point on November nineteenth. Give us
a brief update on this one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so this grows out of a situation where Tyler
Scaggs was a pitcher for the the Los Angeles Angels
or the the Anaheim Angels anymore.
Speaker 7: I can't keep track.
Speaker 6: But he was being he was being offered and fed
some pain pills from some staff with the Angels, and
one of these staff was a communications director, Eric Kay.
He gave him some pills that were laced with Finnahl
and Tyers Skaggs took these in. Ultimately he overdosed. So
the criminal investigation ensued as Eric Kay, he's in prison
right now for what he did. But the family of
Tylers skagg looks in it and say, wait a minute.
This was an employee of the Angels. He was under
their supervision, and the Angels knew or should have known,
that Eric Kay was given pain pills to players, including
Tylers Skaggs.
Speaker 7: So what they did is they filed.
Speaker 6: The wrongful death lawsuit against the Angels. And this thing's
been going on for a few years and it finally
made it a trial. I mean not everything he makes
his trial, but this is in a six week trial.
Speaker 7: Which is a long time, well the latest.
Speaker 6: As part of a wrongful death lawsuit, the plaintiffs this
is the estate and the family of Tyler Skaggs, they
have to prove their damages and the one damages are
a wrongful death, loss of life, and there's no really
amount of money you can put on that. But that's
one of their claims. But the other damage because he's
a professional apthor Clayton has a big earning potential. They've
hired an economist and an expert to put forth what
he would have earned had he lived. And their expert,
a former Players Association of Major League came in and
compared to another pitcher this take one Walker, and he
said that over his lifetime, Tyler Skaggs, he estimated would
earn between one hundred and nine and one hundred and
twenty million dollars. That's a that's.
Speaker 7: A big figure.
Speaker 6: So what happened is the Angel's attorney comes in and
attacks it and says, wait a minute, Tyler Scaggs wasn't
as good as this Walker guy, and he's regularly injured,
and it's really all speculative whether Tyler Skaggs would have
gotten another contract, would if he played a full career,
whether he was stayed healthy, all of this. So what
they're trying to do is they're trying to really just
draw doubt for the jury to say, hey, these aren't
really accurate numbers, and ultimately they'll probably put on their
own expert to put him in there. But they have
to prove their damages. First off, they have to win
the case. They have to win the case, and if
they don't, they get nothing. But if they win the case,
the JURI will come in and decide what the wrongful
death was worth. They'll put a figure on that, and
they'll determine if this future loss of income, if it's legit,
and they'll put a figure on that.
Speaker 7: So let's wait and see. That's how these cases are handled.
Speaker 1: Let's pivot over some college sports betting. I thought this
was just NFL NBA issues, but fourteen had been charged
in a mafia back betting ring involving athletes.
Speaker 2: Fourteen people charge for their roles.
Speaker 1: In a multimillion dollar legal sports betting ring that involved
college athletes, as Simon had Lenks, Organized crime New Jersey
authorities announced Thursday pontificate on this one.
Speaker 2: Jents.
Speaker 8: Yeah, just another illegal gambling ring. Again. We've talked about
a few of these now, I mean, of course, the
big one that we've talked about is the Chauncey Billups
Terry Rose Rosier case. But this one's a little different.
This one is another gambling though back by organized crime family,
the Luches family. I guess they operate out of New Jersey.
And so there's as you mentioned, I mean, over a
dozen people charged, but a couple of them are college athletes,
or we're college athletes, a couple of wrestlers from from Rutgers.
So yeah, they're getting wrapped up on this, and I mean,
I don't know, we're seeing this more and more and more, Ben,
But I think the moral of the story is as
if you're a college athlete and you get approached by
someone about sports betting, no way, no how you know.
I think I think there's gonna be a lot of
scrutiny going forward and already starting right. I mean, we're
seeing it in Major league you know, we're seeing that.
We're seeing it now in the investigations with the NBA,
right they want records from from players and cell phone
records and things like that. You know, sports betting has
really taken on a life of its own with the type,
you know, with just the accessibility of it. But I
think there's gonna we're gonna start seeing rules come down
and scrutiny.
Speaker 1: So well, my question to you guys is this, Look,
I know, whenever you legalize anything that becomes that there's
a black market for it, right, And and that's just
the nature of the beast. But like, look, gambling is gambling,
like all the games that are at that in Vegas?
Speaker 2: Should should we?
Speaker 1: I mean, now with all of this coming out, it's like,
should we just illegalize like sports gambling? Like and what
are the repercussions and ramifications of illegalizing, uh the sports gambling?
Speaker 8: Well, in some ways it has been legalized in so
many different places, right, But nonetheless, and I think that's
a little bit interesting about this. This isn't off the
books illegal gambling operation, right?
Speaker 2: Sorry? Did I say? I said?
Speaker 1: What don't they just from a federal government, state government standpoint,
just illegalize any sports books gambling just illegal? I legalize it,
my myall legal yeah, illegalized?
Speaker 2: Sorry, right?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 8: I mean, I I think that's certainly going to be
a discussion. I mean, and is there a way to
uh sort of separate out athletes from participating, right, I mean,
I mean, if you're a NBA player and you want
to bet on a on a hockey game right on
how many goals are going to get scored or whatever
who's going to score? You know, it's just again it's
a it's a slippery slope. But it's the problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not a gambling guy.
Speaker 2: I aint a gambling guy. I just ain't. I mean,
I look at golf course with my boys.
Speaker 1: Maybe putting a few dollars on a on on our abilities, yes,
but I don't know. Man, A lot lot is going
on in the sports world. Then you just wonder whether
or not we should change our ways. Let's move on
to one of the final topics here an update on
the UCLA Rose Bowl battle. U CLA gets victory, an
attempt to leave its association with the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 2: Give us more.
Speaker 7: Don't play golf with Ben. He can take your money.
Speaker 1: I'll definitely I'm I'm not a samdbagger, but I definitely
I want a fair I want a fair fight on
the golf course.
Speaker 2: You better have an accurate handicap or else.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, this story here. I think we talked about
it a while back. But as we know, the UCLA
Bruins play their football games and have forever at the
Rose Bowl and the Rose Bowl.
Speaker 7: They have a contract with UCLA that.
Speaker 6: Runs up through twenty forty four. I don't know what
things are gonna look like in twenty forty four. In
the world of college football. But the city of Pasadena
and the Rose Bowl they caught win that UCLA was
looking to jump ship and take their games to Sofi Stadium. Well,
in response to some rumblings, UCLA said, oh, that's nothing,
there's nothing going on there.
Speaker 7: Well, the City of Pasadena and Rose.
Speaker 6: Bull they didn't believe it, so they ran the court.
And some people thought, well, that's kind of premature, but
they ran the court and requested the court issue a temporary.
Speaker 8: Restraining order, and there's temporary restraining.
Speaker 6: Orders have some pretty high burdens, and well, ucl it
posed that. They came in and the judge kind of
agreed with UCLA and they said that you haven't really
shown any irreparable harm or imminent harm, despite the fact
that you're saying that that you've got a contract in
that the city of Pasadena and the Rose Bowl makes
millions of dollars a year and entered into a bunch
of renovations with the representation that Ucla'd be playing their
football games there. Potentially you have damages, but you haven't
shown yet that UCLA is really leaving. And UCLA really
downplayed it and said, wait a minute, there's no intention
to leave or anything like that, and the Pasadena's a lawyer.
He came out and said it was interesting.
Speaker 7: He said UCLA had unequivocally.
Speaker 6: Represented and indicated know in certain terms, its intent to
leave the Rose Bull and that also said that they
said they wanted to do it in private, and he
described that as bullying. Well, the judge agreed with UCLA
at this point, he would not issue the temporary restrating order,
but what he did say was, hey, Rose Bull and Pasadena,
you can jump into what's called discovery and look in
to see if there's been any negotiations going on, request documents,
you can have depositions of key individuals.
Speaker 7: You can check.
Speaker 6: Into emails, that type of thing and see if there's
anything going on behind the scenes as you allege that
they intend to leave, and if you find it, you
can come back to me and request a preliminary injunction,
which is essentially would enjoin UCLA from pursuing these types
of talks and doing it. At some point, if UCLA leaves,
there will definitely be a lawsuit with a breach of
contract claim because there is a breach of contract. And
I think that the City of Pasadena and the Rose
Bolt can absolutely show damages from losing this contract.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for another segment of sports court.
Speaker 7: Appreciate it, Ben, thank you.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you.
Speaker 3: Guys.
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Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 9: You mentioned Bear Bachmeyer and Brendan Soresby in his press
conference this week. Came out and he was wearing a
shirt that said Bear Raid and it caught my eye
right away, and my eyes aren't very good, but I
did catch it, and he he.
Speaker 3: I said, it is that on purpose?
Speaker 9: I was wondering, it's like, well, we're throwing shade here,
what's going on? And he said what it was was
actually a shirt that they had made in the off season,
you know, take off on air raid bear raids. So
it had nothing to.
Speaker 3: Do with with Bear.
Speaker 9: So we don't have any great headlines for you there
other than you know, it should be a pretty decent
matchup between the two and they're pretty similar sized dudes
with with similar attitudes in terms of the way they
played football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I think your quarterbacks was six three two thirty five
Bear bach Myers right around there two six two two
forty or something like that. You guys are these are big,
strong at lee quarterbacks that are going up against each other.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I haven't seen as much a Bear as
you guys have, but I know Brendan Sorsby typically is
he will slide, but he's not a fan of it.
You know, he would just soon rather you know, spin
or take on the.
Speaker 3: Hit or whatever.
Speaker 9: But I think as they get older, they're they're told,
you know, slider, we're going to do something to you.
But in Cincinnati's case, you know, he's the guy. He's
going to play. They have him listed probable on the
official injury list, which freaks some people out overnight. But look,
you know you don't bring a guy to the weekly
press conference and then not flame. So I think he
had an ankle issue and it'll be fixed up. They
can tape ankles up. You know, you've probably been taped
up a lot more than me. But it's like, you know,
you can be as good as new with the taped
ankle and maybe a little shot of something.
Speaker 1: Well, well, I've got to get to know little Yeah,
I get a little little lighter cane in the ankles.
This citsinn a bearcat team. Like what would you say
is their identity? Who are they?
Speaker 9: Well, they want to be a tough running team and
that's what they had been. Unfortunately, you got to November
and suddenly they're turning the ball over bend and soorthy
went September in October without a turnover, no fumble, no interception.
You go back to August twenty eighth, he had the
interception against Nebraska at the end of the game.
Speaker 3: If that's complete, you know that that's a win.
Speaker 9: No interception until they get to Utah there at the
Rice Eycle Stadium and he throws one there and he
costs the ball up a couple of times and they
try to get back in it, but the Youths were
able to pull away.
Speaker 3: And it got out of hand.
Speaker 9: And then the last game against Arizona very disappointing because
it's a very winnable game that you really should have had.
And you know, Arizona's not bad. You know, there's seven
and three. They took you guys to byu to double overtime,
but you know, you're at home. You had the time
zone in your favor, everything was in your favor. Cincinnati
had a lead, and it just seemed like, you know,
they they just were tread and water and suddenly Noah
Flafida was completing passes and they came back and Cincinnati
couldn't make the comeback. Got within three with like six minutes,
got the ball back with a buck twenty couldn't do
anything with it. They did beat Kansas that way with
a late drive, but at home they didn't finish, And
in my mind, I thought they had to go undefeated.
Speaker 3: To be a factor in this Big twelve race.
Speaker 9: Now mathematically there may be a chance, but you know,
not good. It's like Slim and none, and Slim might
have left town.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati's getting a good wide receiver and a good running
back I believe back for this game.
Speaker 2: That has to be a big deal for this offense.
Speaker 1: Could you explain just how good these two players have
been and how healthy are they going to be for
this game?
Speaker 9: Well, it just helps your depths because Tolly Walker had
done a great job running the ball. He's close to
seven hundred yards on the season, and he's the guy.
I don't know if you saw the video when they
played the Iowa State he bowled over one of their linebackers.
Speaker 3: It was crazy.
Speaker 9: He's a ton like five eight two twenty bowling ball dude.
But Evan Pryor a little bit more shifty, a lot
more speed, and when Evan Pryor breaks away, you're not
going to catch him where you're probably going to catch
Tallie Walker, so it's a different type of running back,
but they've missed his playmaking ability. Plus he was a
factor catching balls out of the backfield. Caleb Goodie is
the fastest guy and the guy that can stretch the field,
and I think he was averaging about maybe nineteen plus
yards per catch. So does he have big games every game. No,
but he's a threat and teams have to defense him
or otherwise the other guys are going to be open.
So they've missed him the last couple of games and
prior the last couple of games, and so it's welcome
to have him back. On the other hand, you know,
you still got to shore up your passing game, which
is you know, had its problems in the last couple
of weeks, particularly with man coverage. So I'm guessing that
the b YU is gonna do some man coverage because
they're tough kids and they're gonna blitz Soores via time
or two, and so they better have something dialed up and.
Speaker 3: Prepared because this is not an easy game.
Speaker 9: But for Cincinnati it's their senior Night, Big Night, you know, spotlight.
You got Big Fox, Big noon kickoff early in the day,
then eight pm under the lights, they haven't had a
night game all season, so the kids like the night games.
So the stage is there. It's just a matter of
what they want to do with it. Even if they win,
though I think it's it makes the record look better.
I don't think they get the factor in into the
Big twelve championship game without some very strange things happening.
Speaker 1: Well, then they're gonna have to play spoiler. Right, So
how motivated is this Bear Catch team? What's the culture? Like?
How would you describe I've been being led by coach
Saderfield right now, because I mean, you can still go
to a really good bowl game. You can get to
possibly double digit wins in a season. That's a difficult
thing to do. And so give me their mindset, if
you will.
Speaker 9: Well, a lot of the seniors that came back to
Dante Corleones, Gavin Gerhardt is a guy that's been around
like like six years. You know, it's crazy how long
college careers go now, but yeah, he's been back. And
these are guys that could have left and came back.
Joe Royers another one could have left came back, and
a lot.
Speaker 3: Of them said, well we didn't.
Speaker 9: We don't like the taste left in our mouths last
year when they were five and two and then dropped
five straight games and didn't even qualify for a bowl.
So they wanted to rectify that. A lot of them said,
this is why we're coming back. We want to leave
this place better. And so you're in a situation now
where you've dropped two straight games. If you lose against EYU,
then you got TCU who's at home, not going to
be a pushover. You know, that could be a kind
of an ugly ending to a great season, you know,
going from seven to one to seven and five. So
I think the goal is, let's have the best record
we can have, you know, the cliche one to know
each week, you know, tremendous challenge ahead when you got
the number eleven team in. But again, the spotlights there,
the kids get kind of crazy at night, and so
that that's what they're looking for. It's like beat b
YU and then you know, see what happens with everybody else.
I don't see Texas Tech losing. I don't think I
see Utah losing. So I don't know what's going to
happen in the Big twelve. And you know, in my opinion,
barn On the top two have been Texas Tech.
Speaker 3: And then beat b YU.
Speaker 9: Probably if you're looking at it overall, Utah's right there.
Obviously they're they're They're very different at home.
Speaker 3: I know that much. So I think the Big.
Speaker 9: Twelve needs a little bit more respect in the College
Football Playoff Committee, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, will give me a few takeaways on
the College Football Playoff Committee rankings.
Speaker 2: What stood out to you? What did you disagree with?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 9: The one that stands out is the And I hate
to make Notre Dame people mad because there's a lot
of them, but you know, Miami beat them.
Speaker 3: Uh and Uh, I don't know. It seems like they
get an extra I know why.
Speaker 9: You know, Notre Dame means money and so, but they
get a pass so many times. So they're a good team.
And I love Marcus Freeman, he coached here. A lot
of the guys on their coaching staff. I know that
we're coaches Gino Goodooley and Mike Denbrock and Mike Mickens
is a Cincinnati Hall of Famer. So for their sake,
I hope they get in. But if you're looking at
it realistically, there's don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 9: You have to be a little bit more fair about
it and can't just stack at all. Sec Big ten
and and Notre Dame kind of gets not a free pass.
They've certainly earned it, but I think they have a
little bit more power than they should. But you know
what's fair in life, you know. I listened to Rick
new heeisl a lot Nihael new Heeisel. I know a
new heel and a ninheisol. That's why I get these confused.
But the former coach, you know, he said his line
is affairs where you put a blue ribbon on a pig.
And that's pretty accurate because that's just the way it is.
There's not a whole lot fairer in athletics.
Speaker 1: Talking some BYU versus Cincinnati here on your Utah ESPN
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Cincinnati Bearcat inside a Scott Springer of the Cincinnati Inquirer.
Speaker 2: As far as the kind of the preview of.
Speaker 1: This game and how Vegas is seeing it, I believe
BYU is only a slight favorite on the road versus
the Bearcats two and a half points to be exact.
ESPN Analytics givings BYU a sixty seven point nine percent
chance of Victory's to six pm kickoff at Nippert Stadium.
What do you think the environment's going to be like
and do you think this is going to be kind
of like a hard fought, close, one score type of game.
Speaker 9: That would be my guess. You know, anything's possible. I
don't see Cincinnati getting blown out at home, and it
seems like the home field in football and even home
court in basketball is so huge In the Big Twelve,
and particularly when you're going across time zones, they're different games,
and so I think there's enough incentive for the Cincinnati
fans to rise up and make some noise and give
BYU a challenge. They make me make predictions each week,
the Cincinnati Inquirer does.
Speaker 3: So my prediction is I have BYU.
Speaker 9: Winning, because based on the last two games I've seen,
I've not seen what looks to me a team that
is going to make a big postseason push. Are they
capable of it? They certainly are. Is a talent level better,
It certainly is, And they've had tremendous games and they've
surprised me in a couple of them.
Speaker 3: Earlier in the year.
Speaker 9: You know, they beat I was stayed up pretty good
in the first half, but then kind of let them
back in. They beat Baylor decently, So yeah, there's been
some surprises in the year.
Speaker 3: I had actually kicked them to win seven games.
Speaker 9: They got to seven and one and then I said, well,
you know, maybe we're onto something here. But the last
two games that they just haven't a problem they've.
Speaker 3: Had the previous two years.
Speaker 9: It's just not finishing games, having games where you maybe
outgained the opponent. And I think that even happened two
years ago at Lebelle Edward Staghum. I believe they outgained
BYU by a significant measure and still lost thirty five
twenty seven. So you've got to figure out ways to
score and take advantage of games and finished games and
not cough the ball up, which has not been a
problem until the last two games. So obviously they need
to play clean football and you know, otherwise it's not
going to be anything that the Cougars haven't seen it.
It's a little chilly here, but you know, like I've
told you before, I've got a son and daughter in
law in Utah, so I've been there and I've certainly
been cold in Utah, so it's.
Speaker 3: Nothing new here.
Speaker 9: What they really needed last week was it needed to
be about thirty degrees for Arizona, and it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It was nearly seventy.
Speaker 2: So it'll be like, what forty one degrees at kickoff.
Speaker 3: Something like that. I believe rain's coming on Friday.
Speaker 9: I think if I looked at it, because my wife's
got tickets and going, and I think it's the highest
fifty one or two, but the low thirty seven, So yeah,
I would what about forty forty one around kickoff time?
Speaker 2: Seats? What forty thousand?
Speaker 1: There?
Speaker 2: Is it natural grass or turf?
Speaker 3: It's turf. It's a unique field.
Speaker 9: It's a little different, and it's kind of built right
into the campus and it's one of the rare fields
where you can walk through there during school hours or afterward,
and it's not unusual to see kids down on the field,
you know, throwing frisbees and this and that. Because it's
wide open and they can't really block it off. It's
very strange. It can be even though it's only forty thousand,
can be very loud though, because there's two adjacent buildings
and once things get repped up, that noise bounces off
those buildings. So it's a little bit more intimidating than
you would guess because you're looking at it and you
going to a big deal forty thousand.
Speaker 3: But that's the appeal of it.
Speaker 9: And some people call it like the Wrigley Field of
football because it just there's a lot of stone structures
and it's unique. It's totally unique. Now doesn't have the
view that your place does. I don't know who does,
because that's outstanding. You know, standing in the press box
and looking out at that, all you're doing is taking
pictures and not even concentrating on the game. So there
are hills in Cincinnati, but certainly no smoke cap mountains.
Speaker 1: B yu's three to zero all time against the Cincinnati Bearcats,
but this game has only been played from twenty fifteen
to present day.
Speaker 2: Each of these.
Speaker 1: Games, though BYU, I don't think it's one necessary handily,
the closest margin was, I believe the last one in
twenty twenty three, thirty five to twenty seven, BYU gotten
the Bearcats in provo, and so you know it's they've
been competitive games, but BYU has found a way to win,
and win by you know, eight double digits.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the sign of a good team.
Speaker 9: I remember the first game in twenty fifteen, and I
think Cincinnati had a twenty four to seventeen lead and
it was twenty one straight points by the Cougars and
the fourth quarter, so I don't know if the alta
is probably a combination of the altitude and you know,
by you're just.
Speaker 3: Getting it together.
Speaker 9: And then the following year it was twenty to three,
and that was a pretty lopsided one.
Speaker 3: And that's the one if you remember.
Speaker 9: Right the future senator from Alabama yelled at one of
the fans that made the YouTube reels and such.
Speaker 3: But that was kind of one side. And then the
one that you described.
Speaker 9: I believe Cincinnati threw a pick six in the first quarter,
and then right before halftime there was a field goal
where Cincinnati went up, but they gave the Cougars the ball.
I think there was a quick touchdown before half, and
then another one and that's what's killed the Bearcats in
a lot of games. That's so called middle eight, you know,
the last four of the second quarter, first four, the third.
There's been so many games where they lose a coin
toss or they give up the score before halftime, then
the team has the ball bank to start the second half,
and those.
Speaker 3: Minutes can kill you. And that was one of the
problems with Arizona.
Speaker 9: I think the offense sat on the sideline for nearly
an hour because they had a fourteen to seven lead,
and then Fafita took.
Speaker 3: Arizona on a long drive and then they had won.
Speaker 9: The toss, so they get the ball back, and then
you got guys that haven't been on the field, you know,
seemingly since the day before, but it was an hour
and that it just throws the rhythm off because any
offense once a quarterback gets gone. I'm sure you've seen
it with Bachmeyer, and I've seen it with Sowersby. When
they get rolling, it's like you can't wait to see
him back out there because it's just up and down
the field. But when things get sluggish, it's not so
fun to watch or write about.
Speaker 1: What happened to these last two games. The Utai game
was the most, maybe disappointing. At least the UV game
was close and competitive. You know what were the keys
to these losses on the bearcat side of the ball.
Speaker 3: Well, fumble in the red zone, when you're about ready
to score. And I think that would have tied it
at that point.
Speaker 9: I can't remember off the top of my head, but
it was a crucial fumble. Uh. Then then you had
to pick and then another fumble and you had a
couple of red zone miscues there and then.
Speaker 3: Other than that, it was you know, give Utah credit.
Speaker 9: They're tremendous at home, and they took advantage of the
turnovers and uh, you know, the two quarterbacks that can
run like the wind, and that was tough to defend.
And they they gave you Cincinnati fits in the passing game.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Again, you know, no goodie, no prior.
Speaker 9: I don't think with those two though that night they
were gonna win. It was just that that was Utah's night,
and fair and square there they were gonna win it
either way.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm excited to watch this game. A lot on
the line for BYU spoiler. Uh, in a double digit
win season with a big bowl game, right Sincinnati could
end up being you know, the Pop Darts Bowl or
the Alible Bowl if they went out right, if they
win big and so these are big games for big
time teams in the Big twelve. And I can't wait
to see how it plays out. Appreciate you hopping on
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to know the Cincinnati Bearcats from your purview, from your eyes,
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Speaker 2: Great catching up with you.
Speaker 9: All right, thanks a lot. I appreciate it. We'll do
it again sometime.
Speaker 1: All right, Thanks Scott, We'll see you out there in Cincinnati.
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