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smartphone or tablet, And again, thank you so much for

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your support. Last hour, we talked about the lawsuit filed

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by the former UNC Charlotte DEI administrator against UNC Charlotte

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for firing her. I will circle back to that Jen

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Pisaki style, but first let me let me circle back

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like Pasaki would. Actually she never did circle back to

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this stuff. She just said she would circle back anyway.

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I'm actually going to go back to something I promised

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I would talk about a little bit more in depth.

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I'm gonna do that now, which is the DEI industry, okay,

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and what this actually is about. And when I say

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I'm going to talk about it, I actually mean somebody

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else is going to talk about it. A guy named

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James Lindsay. He writes over at New discourses dot com

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and he was one of the guys that did the

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grievance studies and he's a big warrior against the Wolke

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left and the woke right. And had him on the

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program back in September actually the day Charlie Kirk was assassinated,

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he was on the program. So he had written and

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this goes back to twenty twenty three. Okay. This is

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one of the benefits of covering a story for a

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long period of time is that you you build up

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the institutional knowledge. By the way, that's why beat reporting

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is so important. When you just send everybody out in

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a newsroom for general assignment reporting, you become a shower

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reporter because and I don't mean like intellectually, I'm just

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saying you don't. You don't have a deep understanding of

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a lot of issues or any issue, because you're just

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constantly running around chasing whatever the story of the day is.

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You're not on a beat, developing sources, doing the daily

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grind of learning things. And because a lot of stuff

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you may learn on a beat, you never put into

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a story until maybe a couple of years later. So

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being on a be covering a topic for a long

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period of time builds you that institutional knowledge. So I've

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got files on critical race theory, DEI all sorts of

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stuff back at the house, and I went and pulled

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out this this script. It comes from June of twenty

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twenty three, the diversity, equity and inclusion industry under what

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James Lindsay calls woke Marxism. He says, it's easy to

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understand this, okay, Equity is a rebrand of socialism, that's

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all that is. So when you hear the word equity,

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think socialism, what does that mean? And it's an administered

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economy that makes outcomes equal. I'm sure you've seen the

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graphic where it's like three kids looking over a fence

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into a baseball game. Right, they can't afford tickets, so

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they can't go. And so you've got a tall kid,

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a medium heighth kid, and a short kid. The short

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kid can't see anything, right, the medium kid can barely

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see over the fence, and the tall kid can see fine.

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And so they say, you know, equality is giving everybody

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a box to stand on. So now each of the

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three kids has a box to stand on, and so

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equality looks like the tall kid really not needing the box.

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He's now just standing higher looking over the fence. The

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medium height kid he can now see over the fence,

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and the short kids still can't. So they say equity

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would be the tall kid give up his box to

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the short kid, so the short kid can now see

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over the wall, and now all three of them can see.

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Isn't that nice? Right? But who's doing the redistributing of

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the boxes? See, there's the key. So in a free society,

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the tall kid would be free to make the kind choice,

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which would be to somehow you come into possession of

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this box and you're like, well, here, I'll let you

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borrow my box, or I'll give my box to you

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whatever I can already see. I don't need the box,

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you have it so you can watch. That's a free choice.

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Under equity, somebody takes the box from the tall kid

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and says, you don't need to see it, or you

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don't need to use the box to see, so we're

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gonna take it from you. We're gonna give it to

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the short kid. See. So that's why what Lindsay is

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saying is equity is a rebrand of socialism. It is

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an administered economy, whether the economy is you know, the

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larger economy or the economy is of you know, potential

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jobs at a UNC campus or something something like that. Right,

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program or funding that's available to people, it's administered. Somebody

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is calling the shots. Diversity and inclusion then are the

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tools used to install political officers and to censor and

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remove dissidence. Okay, So diversity is the tool to install

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the people that will carry out the implementation of your equity.

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And the quote inclusion is actually the opposite, right, it

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is censorship. It's to kick out anybody that objects. Hey,

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why are you taking my box? Right? Giving it to

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somebody else? He says, In other words, the woke Marxist

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DEI industry is a racket designed to install commissars for

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its ideology. He says, equity is the goal. What is it?

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Ery describes it as the rebranding of socialism arias.

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Speaker 2: How do you know this? What is socialism? By definition?

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If you understand Marxist ideology, and I mean specifically Marxist socialism.

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If you understand Marxist ideology, you understand that marx believe

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that capitalism would give into its own contradictions, then the

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proletariat would rise up seize the means of production, and

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they would create an administered economy where they redistribute material, resources, opportunity, etc.

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According to Marxist theory, so in particular, people would be

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made equal, shares would be adjusted so that people would

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be made equal. Then this would be done by the proletariat.

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Equity is the same thing. Social equity is defined by H.

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George Frederickson as compared against equality, as equality is when

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citizens A and B are equal, and equity is when

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shares are adjusted so that citizens A, M. B are

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made equal. In other words, you're going to have the

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seizure of the means of a distrib distribution of resources,

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whether those are material or cultural. They're going to be

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redistributed to groups, and then within the groups to individuals

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within those groups. And so you're going to have a

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redistributed economy where groups are made equal and presumably most

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individuals within those groups will be equalized by that mechanism.

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So equity means socialism. The only thing that's different is

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it's not purely economic. It now takes into account things

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like racial identity, sexual identity, gender identity, fat status and

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so on. All these identity politics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fat status Okay, So think in terms of Marxism

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being about capital, right and equity being about social capital. Right,

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they both have value, they both have currency. Here social

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capital does you know, carry purchase? And so if you

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can take some social capital from some group of people,

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because again remember in Marxism it's all about power dynamics,

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oppress or repressed viewpoints that everybody is viewed through that lens.

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You are either oppressed or oppressor. And so if you can,

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if you can take some social capital from your oppressor

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right now, because because you are the oppressed, or inversely

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you could say I'm oppressed, therefore I'm justified in taking

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that capital from you. He talks about how these decisions

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equity inclusion, I said, equity is the is a rebrand

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of socialism. It's same thing administered economy that makes outcomes equal.

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How do you do that? You got to have people

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that make those decisions. Who gets what? How much do

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they get a piece, right, and all of those decisions

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or the economy, if you will, whether it's actual you know, property,

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actual money, or capital or its social capital, it's credentials,

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it's standing, its invitations to the hottest parties on the

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college campus among faculty, that kind of thing, right, Who

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does the administration of this of this equity, Well, that

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would be the party, whatever the party is. In a

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socialist utopia which has never really been tried, that would

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be you know, the socialist party, communist party. And that's

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where the diversity and the inclusion parts come into play.

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Speaker 2: Diversity is not diversity meaning looking different or having different

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backgrounds or different you know, gender, sex, sexuality characteristics. What

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diversity means is that those characteristics are spoken to in

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an authentic way, which is defined by the neo Marxist

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identity theories, whether that's critical race theory, gender theory, queer theory,

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or whatever else. So you are, actually, under their view,

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not authentically diverse, because you're not representing your diverse perspective

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authentically unless you're speaking to it from a position that's

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adopted the critical theory. The relevant critical theory we see

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in policy documents all over that diversity doesn't mean hiring

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for characteristics like sex, gender, race, et cetera. That means

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hiring for expertise in diversity, and if people happen to

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be of different sex, gender, et cetera, that's even better

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expertise and diversity means you've adopted the so called unique,

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structurally determined voice of color or voice of your identity,

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and therefore you are actually speaking what the critical theory

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or the Marxist theory, Marxist identity theory is saying that

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somebody who looks like you should be saying.

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Speaker 1: Right. So this goes to the argument that you heard

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from Adam Gillett from Accuracy in Media last hour when

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he was talking about diversity, and he's like, look at

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the makeup of the you know, college faculty. It's homogeneous politically, right.

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There are no conservatives, you know, among the faculty ranks,

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and the amount of political donations that are given, it's

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like ninety nine percent for Democrats, right, And that's why

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a lot of people on the right throw this argument

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back in the face of the left when they say,

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you know, oh, we're about diversity, and like, no, you're not,

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because you want everybody to think like you. And this

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is what Jane Lindsay is talking about in that clip

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there is that diversity is essentially a code word that

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is used to smuggle in the Marxism. Okay, it's a

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way to weed out who is there simply because they

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are a member of a protected class, a minority status,

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or something right but doesn't agree with Marxism. So you're

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not adequately or authentically diverse unless you are articulating the

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positions that a Marxist would articulate that would represent your

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stereotypical class. This is why you get leftists calling conservatives

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and Republicans who are black or who are gay, they

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call them sellouts, they call them traders, they call them

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not authentic. It's the ideology that makes them an authentic

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member of their demographic group. Right, what's the line, not

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all skin folk or kinfolk, that kind of That's what

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they're talking about. That's what this means. That's how you

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end up with this, with these charges, these accusations, these

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smears that you're not authentic unless you agree with me.

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Hence the uh. The diversity is the diversity and inclusion,

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you know, Diversity is the mechanism by which you administer

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the economy, and the inclusion is the way that you

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censor people who are not quote unquote authentic. This is

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what James Lindsay gets to. Now I think let's try

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it again.

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Speaker 2: Inclusion means that people who are affected badly by the

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so called power dynamics have to be made to be included.

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Everybody else is believed to be automatically included. So ideas

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that might offend somebody who is in a so called

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protected class must be excluded to promote an inclusive environment. Idea, pictures, images, rocks,

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anything in the world that might make somebody feel like

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they can associate through whatever. Master bedrooms, for example, give

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people the idea of slavery even though they have nothing

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to do with slavery. The term was invented in the

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nineteen twenties. And a catalog, a marketing catalog, and so

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anything that can give somebody the idea of something that

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feels like power dynamics has to be censored.

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Speaker 1: And if you aren't awakened or woke to the Marxist

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analysis of your own race or gender, sexual orientation or whatever,

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then you're not authentic. So it's the installation of political

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officers inside the bureaucracy that then administer. These are the

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diversity officers, right, which they then lead the censorship, the purges.

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That is the quote unquote inclusion just come with the censorship,

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even proactively to the mere sight of a white person

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at a graduation, for example, means segregating people from each

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other to prevent harm or sharing the space. That's why

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we saw segregated spaces being promoted as inclusive when they

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are anything but inclusive. Right, it's like the upside down World.

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That's not a reference to Stranger That was not intentional.

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Although the final I guess is it one episode tonight

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one they're gonna roll, but it's two hours, right, it's

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one episode, two hours. Okay, yeah, I'll be watching it.

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I mean, I've come this far. It took me ten

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years to watch you know, all four seasons? Is that

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how many? There were four? This is the fifth season. Yeah, well,

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I mean they took like about half a decade off

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then they did like a half season season five finale,

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a half season finale or something. It was ridiculous. They're

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they're all now in the like midlife years, they're like thirty.

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like seven years old, and now they're thirty. It's just nuts. Anyway,

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this is why you end up with colleges, and mainly colleges.

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I don't know about any high schools that have been

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doing this, but you know, holding segregated graduation ceremonies, got

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to do it proactively for inclusiveness. It's the complete opposite.

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And the party officers, whether that's at the UNC Charlotte

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Dei office, right, or it's you know, a political party,

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they get to make the decisions for people. That's the

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vision of Marx, that's the communist vision. It's the people,

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but not really the people. It's the people who are

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in control of the party apparatus. And then sometimes you'll

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hear the term belonging. The only clue that which is inclusion.

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But it's with a positive affirmation. So it's not enough

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to not offend. Right, And by the way, you don't

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know if you've ever been offensive or not, because if

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you're not intending to be offensive, but you are offensive,

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it doesn't matter what your intent is. Intention has nothing

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to do with it. It's all about how somebody perceives

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it right. So yeah, that's a dead bang loser. But

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now with the belonging thing, that means you have to

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the affirmation, then you're not being inclusive and helping them

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feel like they belong. It's all about control. You know.

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try to, you know, end the year on an upbeat

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note or a couple notes, maybe like like a whole verse,

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maybe a whole song of upbeatedness. So I've been talking

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a lot over the years about, you know, how much

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I agree with the environmentalists and the net zeroers, the

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no growthers, the leftists about how we want to get

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to no carbon emissions because if we don't get to

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zero carbon emissions, then we're all going to die because

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guya earth is going to kill us. Although I disagree

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with that last part. I don't think gaya Earth is

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going to kill us. I think the sun is trying

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to kill us, and the sooner we can knock that

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thing out, I think the better off we're all going

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to be. But I have look, I am on board.

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You want to get rid of CO two gas in

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the atmosphere, You want to starve all the trees and

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bushes of their the what they breathe in and need

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to grow. Like, I'm on board, let's kill all the

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trees and shrubs. I am on board. It'll make the

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views a lot nicer when you're driving down the road

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up in the mountains, you know, and like all the

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trees have now grown so tall you can't see any

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of the beautiful vistas, although they probably won't be so

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beautiful if there are no trees in the valleys anymore,

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but that's side issue, right. Primarily, it's like I can't

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see all of the beautiful nature because the nature has

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grown up too high along the side of the road. Which,

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by the way, if you go up there and you

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look at some of the old photos go through the

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local museums as I have done, you'll see that they

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like when they built all the road system up there,

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is for mainly like a lot of logging. They clear

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cut the bajeebus out of the mountains up in western

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North Carolina. I mean, they just took all the trees, right,

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and so it took a long time, but all the

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trees have grown back, and now they've grown up alongside

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of the roads that they had put in that you

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used to be able to look out over the side

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of the road and see these beautiful vistas of the

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valley and such, but you can't see them anymore because

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all the trees have grown up, and the environmentalists up

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in the Asheville area they don't allow you to cut

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any of the trees down, so now you just can't

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see over the side, which my wife is happy about,

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because she gets kind of nervous, you know, looking over

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the side of the guardrail there and seeing the sheer

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cliff drop off. So I mean, look, life is trade offs.

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But anyway, the whole point here is that CO two

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is is bad. We want to get rid of all

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the CO two, right, We want to get to net zero.

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We want to have no carbon emissions, and that's gonna

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that's going to win the energy race for us. Okay. Now,

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in all seriousness, if you're ever in a discussion with

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somebody who is advocating for the reduction of CO two

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in the atmosphere and nuclear is not part of their equation,

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then you know you're not actually discussing the topic with

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a serious person, okay, because nuclear energy production must be

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part of the equation unless you want us all you know,

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living by candle light and burning you know, cowfeeces for heat.

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Like there's there is no future with no CO two

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without nuclear, Okay, you gotta have nuclear energy production, which

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is why I was very excited to see this story

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at the at Business NC dot com, a piece by

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Ray Groenberg. Duke Energy has asked federal regulators to approve

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the idea of using part of its Bellus Creek property

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in Stokes County, North Carolina as the site for a

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set of small nuclear reactors, or as George W. Bush

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and Homer Simpson would call it, nuclear nuclear. The utility is,

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by the way, is it pronounced Bellew's Creek or Belleuze Creek, Bellews,

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Bellews anyway, it's in Stokes County. The utility on Tuesday

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applied to the US Nuclear Regulatory Commission or the NRC

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for what's called an early site permit, and that entails

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the environmental impact studies and site safety factors, so like

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you know what happens if an earthquake occurs, a hurricane

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like that kind of stuff. So they've started the ball

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rolling on what's called the early site permit. Now they're

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going to need other permits because it is GOV co.

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You got to have like a bajillion permits for this

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sort of thing, should it. Should Duke Energy decide that

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it actually wants to go ahead with the project, then

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Duke would have to go back to the NRC to

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get their permits for construction and for operating. Okay, so

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they still need those permits approved. But the early site

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review process is optional, and it didn't even exist at

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the time Duke built its existing fleet of reactors here

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in the Carolinas, the newest reactor of which went online.

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Do you know when the when was the last time

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Duke Energy brought a nuclear plant online in the Carolinas?

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Give up? Nineteen eighty seven? Nineteen eighty seven. It's been

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what forty years almost since a nuclear plant went online?

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Forty years The country's first wave of reactor construction taught

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the NRC and the industry that many of the challenges

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that delayed the projects come during the site selection phase.

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This is according to Chris Nolan, Duke Energy's vice president

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for New Nuclear Projects or what they call new news.

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I'm just kidding. I don't think that I would call

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it that. If I were to Duke in the New

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Nuclear Projects, I would call it the new Noops Department.

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That's what I would call it, just for fun because

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it sounds fun. So by doing the early sit permit

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and getting the ball rolling now you can get all

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of the challenges because you know they're gonna get sued.

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They're gonna be objections by you know, all of the

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environmentalist groups that want no CO two emissions produced but

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don't want nuclear rights. It's solar farms, wind power only.

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That's the only thing that these groups, which by the way,

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like you can't build a wind farm without fossil fuels.

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It's just absurd. Like everything about that turbine, all of

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it comes from everything that comes out of the ground,

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you know, So don't take my word for it. Listen

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to Billy Bob Thornton in the documentary Land Man. Okay.

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Bellu's Creek is currently home to one of Duke's coal

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fired power plants, which the left hates the coal fire plants,

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hates them with the coal ash pits and the dirty

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fuel that it's burning. Right, So you're burning coal and

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you're polluting everything, and you're killing all of the babies

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and stuff. So okay, well let's take that offline and

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let's build let's build nuclear instead. No, no, no, we

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can't do that. So the utility is looking at land

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which is just to the east of where the coal

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plant is located currently, and it believes that the land

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that it's identified can accommodate up to six small modular

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reactors or SMRs. And I've talked about these things too.

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I've been very excited about these things. I have no

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idea how they work. I'm not a nuclear scientist, but

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they're small as I understand it, they're smaller than the

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big ones. I don't know if those are called big reactors,

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but these are small modular reactors SMRs, and they will

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generate somewhere in the neighborhood of about three hundred megawatts,

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which I believe will power a deloreate through through time travel.

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So if they eat, if each one can generate three

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hundred megawats, then you get six of them online, you

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got eighteen hundred megawatts, and I think that's a gigawatt.

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That's like one point eight gigawatts if my math is

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correct on all of that, and that's usually what they build.

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The big ones are the gigawatt producers. So here they're

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going to build smaller ones, and they don't know what

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kind of SMRs is, like a bunch of different models

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that they can use. They haven't decided what model to use,

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but they don't have to decide that right now. But

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their long term plan is that by twenty thirty seven,

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they've got to have an additional six hundred megawatts of

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new nuclear capacity online. Within twelve years, that's what they

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need to have, six hundred megawats. So two of these

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SMRs have to get built, Okay, within the next decade. People,

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we need two of them. So they got plans for

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eight and if they get their early site permits approved,

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those permits are good for twenty years. And they're helping

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a project in Canada and one in the Tennessee Valley

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in Knoxville, and so they're going to learn all of

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the mistakes that get made in those two projects and

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then they're going to say, all right, let's avoid those

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mistakes for our project. I think it's a great idea.

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I am supportive of this effort. Do good job. All right.

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If you're listening to this show, you know I try

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say get your news from multiple sources. Why, Well, because

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it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've

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message on the text line from a random seven oh

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four number. By the way, if you give us your

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name in the text, we can put it into the system.

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You could just give your first name, and then I

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can say, you know, Pete texts in and says, so

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this is a seven oh four number. Who says, m

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leave it cleaner than you found it. That's the way

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I was raised. Yeah, well, I mean, look, you can't

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spell conservation without conservetive, can't spell conservative without conserve. It's

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all like, it's all part of the same thing. I'm

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the same way. Like I go camping, You pack out

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what you brought in, right, you burn everything that you

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can burn. No, I'm kidding, burn all the plastic bottles

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that you can't at the campfire. No, but you Yeah,

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you leave it better than you found it. That's the idea.

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And mister x White says for every lawsuit Duke receives

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for new nuke construction, they should publicly shut down a

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coal plant unit until the suit is resolved. Yeah. That well,

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make everybody pay for the wackos. I don't. I would

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not support that, mister White, if that is your real name.

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Another another piece of good news, we have confirmation that

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if you want more housing, which everybody keeps saying, there's

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a housing crunch and a crisis, right, and it's too expensive.

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So if you want, we have more evidence to support

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this idea that if you want more housing, the solution

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is is to build more housing. I know it's kind

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of crazy, but just stay with me here. Okay, it

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may sound paradoxical at first, counterintuitive even, but rent got

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cheaper in several major cities this past year thanks to

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an influx of luxury apartment buildings that opened. I talked

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a little bit about this a few weeks ago. We

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have more evidence now, Bloomberg dot com reporting based on

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numbers that were put out by Costar, which is the

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real estate research firm. The US average rental rate Okay,

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the average rental rate across the country fell by zero

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point one eight percent, so not a lot, but it

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went down in November, it went down. That is the

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largest monthly drop in more than fifteen years. Driving the

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decline lower rents in cities like Austin, Denver, and Phoenix,

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as well as vacation destinations like Naples, Florida, Myrtile Beach,

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South Carolina, and Ashville. Now I will put an asterisk

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by Ashville because I think that had something to do

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with Eleen. I think a lot of rates dropped because

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you know, people fled, People were not vacationing there, and

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so a lot of the rates came down so Ashville.

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And in fact, if you look at the chart, which

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I am looking at the chart here, of the amount

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of new units that came online, Ashville is not on

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this list. So Ashville doesn't. They tend not to want

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to build a lot. And I was told last night

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during my live stream from folks out in western North

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Carol on the county Bunkham County, they do zoning approvals

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out there, and they're even worse. They're more restrictive than

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the city of Asheville is. So people don't want not

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in my backyard. The Nimbi's or the bananas, build absolutely

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nothing anywhere, build absolutely nothing anywhere nearby, or something like that.

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Banana is another acronym for folks that they know. They

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move out there, and they're like, I got my little

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slice of heaven, and I'm gonna pull the ladder up

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behind me so nobody else can come aboard. I know

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I'm mixing metaphors there, But if you build more housing,

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you get more housing. And it's almost as if there's

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some sort of I don't know, invisible hand at work here.

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It lowers the prices why this doesn't make any sense.

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You're bringing luxury apartments online, Pete, why would that bring

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down the prices? Ah? Glad you asked when more luxury

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apartments get built or Class A apartment stock. When you

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you build more of those, the people who are in

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class B that want to move into a nicer unit,

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a brand new unit, they have the ability to move

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out of the class B and into Class A, which

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then opens up Class B. Now the landlord is like, oh, man,

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I got all these vacancies, So what do they do?

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They lower the rates on Class B, which then makes

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them affordable to people who are living in Class C

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apartments and they want to move up into nicer units,

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so they move from class C to Class B. So

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now you've got the landlords in class C and they're like, oh,

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what do I do? I got all these vacancies. That's right,

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you can see where this is going. It's kind of

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like a cyclical thing, right. They lower their rates new

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building openings or bringing rents down as wealthy tenants trade up,

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forcing landlords to drop prices for older apartments. Rents for

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older apartments have fallen as much as eleven percent. Some

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are now on offer at rates as low as homes

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that are usually designated as quote unquote affordable but come

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with restrictions including rent control and rent stabilization. In other words,

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the government regulatory regime that's meant to make these units

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quote unquote affordable. They are now more expensive than the

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class C private domain rentals because those landlords don't want

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the vacancies, they want people in the homes. The changed

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I love this line from Bloomberg. The changed dynamic in

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the rental market is challenging the idea that luxury housing

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doesn't help the broader ecosystem. Okay, who came up with

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that stupid idea, because it's really stupid. That's a dumb idea.

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It's challenging this idea that luxury housing doesn't help the

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broader ecosystem. Of course it would think about it. When

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flat screen TVs came out, who could afford flat screens?

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Not me. I couldn't go out and get like the

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first run of those things. They were like thousands of dollars.

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Now you can get a flat screen TV. I mean,

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if it's anything like the one I bought, it's going

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to break within the next two years. But like you

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can go out and buy a flat screen TV for

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a couple hundred dollars. Now, why is that? It's because

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the first innovations are usually most expensive because the companies

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that innovated, they suck a lot of money into research

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and development. They have to recoup their investment, and once

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they do, then the prices start dropping. Other competitors see, oh,

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this is how they did it, We can do that too.

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You have more competitors enter the marketplace. That then drives

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the prices down again, and before you know it, everybody

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has a flat screen TV now, which is super easy

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00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,599
if you have to move, you know, do you ever

590
00:37:55,639 --> 00:37:57,280
have a look, I've moved a lot in my life,

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00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,519
and you could move a lot more flat screen TVs

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more easily then you can move a single tube TV.

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Those things were murder anyway. Cities that built more new

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apartments in recent years largely saw rents plummet. The cities

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that did not build more new apartments did not see

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rents plummet. On the list number one in new unit growth,

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so the cities that added the most Number one was Austin,

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number two Nashville, Tennessee, and number three Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Give it up, Queens, City, Good Job number three in

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the number of new unit growth a five year average

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six point three percent that led to a five percent

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decline in the rents. Coming in at number six on

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00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,039
the list Raleigh, North Carolina, with five and a half

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percent new unit growth, and they saw a decline in

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00:38:52,480 --> 00:39:00,119
their rents down seven point nine percent. Housing supply increases

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equals a reduction in rents. All right, that'll do it

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for this episode. Thank you so much for listening. I

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could not do the show without your support and the

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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.

