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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in the full court press.

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Speaker 2: As you can see in the background, I am on

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the road to Indianapolis, the road to the Final four,

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ron Vino, where we are on the show, and the

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next stop, if you will, is the Nit which will

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be the feature of today's show. So we're going to

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talk about both that It Games. We're also going to

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talk about Crown Semi Final number one, which was set

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after the Crown Games last night, which rob some would say,

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we got a little bit lucky, but you know what.

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Speaker 1: We cashed the parlay.

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Speaker 2: Baylor wins big by twenty and Oklahoma gets there in overtime.

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It's sometimes it's better to be lucky than good. I've

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heard that a couple of times. So welcome in and yeah,

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we let's try to do it again today.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it was nice, Adam. I mean there's a lot

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of times where that type of stuff goes against you.

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Yesterday the ship fell our way. You know, you're just

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asking at the end of that game, you're asking, you know,

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for a two point make rather than a three and

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the win. That's what we got. Oklahoma then proceeded to,

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you know, make a few shots. Still we're behind eighty

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three to eighty two with about a minute and a

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half left, but really did the job on the free

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throw line. Honestly, Oklahoma was both sides. I mean, if

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you had a total play to the over in that game,

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you're really happy with the free throw shooting in overtime

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and at the end of the game because it was really,

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really good. But it was an exciting game. I think

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it kind of played out the Oklahoma game the way

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we suggested it might hear on this show, in terms

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of Oklahoma getting off to a slow start, having that

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great run at the end of the year, and then

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having the long layoff. Oklahoma didn't shoot it good to

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start the game. Maybe some people were able to take

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advantage of some in game numbers at some point, but

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they did turn it on second half. Didn't really want

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to go home. Colorado give them credit. They played eight

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guys last night, six freshmen. Obviously, that's a team that

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looks like they could be a bit of a problem

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next year because they played as good a game as

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I thought they could have played last night. So we'll

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take the parlay. Baylor made it easy, hon Us. We

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had to sweat early, we coasted late, and we'll take

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it that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll get to that game later in the show.

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We'll also get to chat questions. We may start the

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discussion about the final four if you guys have specific questions.

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Speaker 1: But those games.

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Speaker 2: Again, as I said, we will be talking Final four

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in detail on tomorrow's show. So Rob, let's go to

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hinkle Field House where I will be tonight. I believe

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Andy Lang will be joining me, So looking forward to

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that and really looking forward to both of these games.

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I think we got an outstanding sort of semi final

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here in the NIT, the first game of which could

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be one of really could be one of the games

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of the weekend. From an excitement standpoint, Tulsa New Mexico,

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which will be the first N I T semi final

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hinkle Field House tonight, uh seven pm Eastern. I mean

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this is gonna be from a viewing standpoint, this is

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like as good as it gets.

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Speaker 1: Two teams, a lot of offense.

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Speaker 2: I'll start with you know, Matt Winnick filled in for

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you last week and talked about New Mexico and made

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a very very interesting point about this Logos team where

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he and about Eric Olin, the head coach, and essentially

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what his point was was Eric Olan is as good

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as anyone at making your bad shooters beat you know,

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making your bad shooters beat them.

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Speaker 1: Meaning he's scout.

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Speaker 2: He's as good as anyone at scouting out who your

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good three point shooters are and taking them out of

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the game or essentially forcing you to beat them with

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your lesser shooters. We saw them do just that against

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Saint Joe's, and it actually, you know, Saint Joe's, to

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their credit, was able to you know, you know, they

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had a couple of their lesser three point shooters.

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Speaker 1: I think Derek Simpson came out, came out and hit

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like four threes right.

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Speaker 2: Off the bat, and but over the course of the

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game it kind of worked out Saint Joe started to

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miss thies. The reason I wanted to bring that up

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here is that Tulsa doesn't have any bad shooters. They're

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a I mean, this is as good of a three

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point shooting team as you're gonna find and one of

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the more efficient offensive teams in the country. So that's

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kind of got me leaning toward Tulsa rob But at

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the same time, Man New Mexico could put the ball

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in the basket as well, So sider total for you.

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But this kind of feels like it's got Robbino over

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written all over it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you what when you said from a

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fans standpoint, and also you said that if just run

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a weekend or it could be one of the more

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exciting games of the week. It's also a difficult handicap

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and that's for sure. That's how good of a game

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it is. That's how close to a game it is

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when you go to handicap and you can make good

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cases for both sides. I'm gonna do that right now,

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just to lay out the game. You're absolutely right. I mean,

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if Eric Oland is seeking out a pour three point shooter,

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he's got issues because Tulsa comes with Riley. Tyler. Riley

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the point guard is the least likely. These guys all

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have large sample sizes. He has the smallest of these

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sample sizes. He's only shot sixty six threes this year,

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yet he hits thirty nine and a half percent of them,

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and he's the worst. That's the guy. I mean, if

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that's the guy you want to shoot threes, you're probably

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in trouble. I think when you add barn Stable in,

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when you add Papola in, and now last game we

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added David Green back. David Green gave you twenty three

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minutes last week against Whichita State and likely to go

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thirty plus here tonight. He's had more time to rest,

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more time to get acclimated back into the team. That's

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a problem. All three of those guys I just mentioned

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forty percent or better from three, so they just surround

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the perimeter and open guy launches. And I think you

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had and I'll let you say it again because I

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won't say it right, but the statistic that you got

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from a Tulsa staff member when you were there, as

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far as their shooting is concerned, I'm the one thing

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that I think maybe Tulsa is going to be a

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little undersold on here Adam is. My immediate inclination was, well,

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they'll get hurt on the boards tonight by New Mexico.

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Bouillon's been great in this tournament for the Lobos. But

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then I look back to the Wichita State side or

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the Wichita State game, and Tulsa didn't get hurt on

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the boards at all, win by four, close game, but

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Wichita State, I don't know I would in my opinion,

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they're probably better rebounding team than New Mexico and New

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Mexico is a good one. But Wichita State savage on

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the glass and Tulsa didn't get hurt at all on

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the boards by Wichita States. So that forces me to

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somewhat think that maybe I shouldn't negate that advantage to

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New Mexico. New Mexico wants to run, Tulsa wants to run.

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I don't see either side, you know, game planning for

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this and saying, man, I gotta slow New Mexico down. Man,

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we have to slow Tulsa down. I think they're both

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gonna do what they do best. I give a slight

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edge to Eric Oland from the defensive standpoint. You mentioned

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what Matt thought of his capability of kind of taking

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the best shooter out of the game. But Eric Oland,

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we know what he did at San Diego. We know

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what he's doing here at New Mexico. This team can

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score quickly. They played a game a couple of games

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ago where Dayton Oldberry didn't even play. They've had seven

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against Sam Houston, eighty six and eighty four in three games,

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all in the pit granted for Tulsa, all at home, granted.

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But Hickelfieldhouse is a pretty good shooter's gym. I think

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these guys probably shoot well here tonight. I sort of

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lean over Adam in the beginning. When I first started

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this ANDICAP, I was siding with New Mexico a bit,

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But now I'm starting to come around to Tulsa somewhat,

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so I don't know if I can get to a

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side here At one sixty one. It's a big number,

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but New Mexico seems to get their eighty plus every game,

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and as good as they are defensively, I think they'll

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have issues with Tulsa's shooters. The one thing you hope

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for if you do play over in this game is

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that Tulsa doesn't go cold from three, But you can

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counter that by telling yourself, you know what it would

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take four guys to go cold from three? Are all

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four knocking to be able to shoot tonight? Because somebody's

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gonna step up and make a bunch of shots. I

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guess a slight lean over. I'm way more interested, I think,

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in watching this than playing this, but it's as good

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a game as it gets. You're right, tulsa outstanding offense,

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and Mountain West has come up to some criticism because

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they exited this tournament early. But New Mexico is a

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really really good team here, Adam and I think they've

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got multiple ways to score as well. So we'll see

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if defense rides. If defense wins the day, New Mexico

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will win a high scoring game. And last thing I'll

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say to Tulsa's credit, Wichita is not a good shooting team.

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But man, I think they held Wichita. I should have

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the numbers right in front of me, and I don't,

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but I believe it was like three of nineteen or

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three of twenty something from three point range that Wichita

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shot against Tulsa last game, which is way better than

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what the Tulsa defense has been this year. She got

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Aeric Concle on one side, offensive guy old and on

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the other side defensive guy. It's a good matchup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's we can talk about this game for an hour.

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I mean there's so many like sort of like ins

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and outs of this one. I think, you know, again,

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like Tulsa, I think you know, New Mexico is going

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to defend the rim. They have an elite RIM defense,

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so they will force Tulsa into a high volume of threes.

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But like you're saying, it's like is everyone.

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Speaker 1: Gonna go cold.

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Speaker 2: You've got a lot of guys on this team. You know,

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Barnstable forty one point one percent. That's a that's you know,

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he's an elite shooter. Uh you know, uh poop POOLA.

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I'd probably said his name wrong, but he's he is

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also over forty percent. And then you've got guys like

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David Green who are not your typical three point shooters

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that still hit the three at a high percentage. Now

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missed time in this tournament. David Green, it's a shoulder injury.

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last week, and I think that was something rob where

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it was like, hey, I'm a senior, right, or like

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what you know, I don't want to go out with

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you know, not getting on the floor. He played twenty

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three minutes. That was not the typical effort you get

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from David Green. Over the course of twenty three minutes

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five points. He did get six boards, but you could

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tell he was, you know, kind of favoring the shoulder

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a little bit. Granted that was a week ago. Now

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Speaker 1: Right like he had. He missed the weekend game with an.

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Speaker 2: Illness, and then they didn't really need to play him

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much because you know, he played the you know, he

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didn't need to play much in the second half against

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Saint Joe's because that game got a little bit out

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of hand, but he only played fifteen minutes. I would

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imagine that he's back completely normal and totally fine here.

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So you should have still you should have full two

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teams at full strength. Taulas has taken money, which I

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do agree with off the opener of four. But kind

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of like you were saying, there is there is pass

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to both teams winning. There's path to both teams winning

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and blowout fashion. I joke with Andy Lang, I said, oh,

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you're in for a treat with New Mexico Tulsa. It's

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gonna be the first one to ninety. I kind of

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think that's what it's gonna be. Rob, I would be

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shocked if both of these teams don't score.

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Speaker 1: Here's the other thing for that total.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a big number. But like even if one

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team scores at like a super efficient rate, which I

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think you probably get here, the other team would have

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to like almost lay a complete egg to not get

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that one to one sixty, I feel like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I agree, And if they do get a big lead,

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for you if you're playing over there. Again, I look

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back to Wichita State game. That game got to one

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sixty two. I would not consider Wichita State the type

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of offense that New Mexico has in any way, shape

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or form, but I would consider Wichita State to be

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on a defensive par with New Mexico. So the eighty

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three that Tulsa put up, although at home, I think

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translates here against the New Mexico defense. And I think

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that the New Mexico office, they said boillyon is going

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to be a handful for Tulsa downlow. If we just

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want to go over what they have to attempt to defend.

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He's been a monster in this tournament. They're very good,

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and not a lot of teams are, but New Mexico's

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very very good at scoring at all three layers and

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in multiple ways. Like New Mexico will pound you underneath,

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they'll beat you mid range, they'll beat you from three,

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they'll beat you in transition. They'll beat you a lot

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of ways. There's a lot for Tulsa to depend here,

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and so you know, I'm an over guy anyway, so

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I do lean that way, and you know, client wise,

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it'll probably get to the card tonight, but should be

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a great, great game. And I also think I said

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this before, but I do think you have to take

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into consideration the venue and I do think Hinkle is

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a you know, it's a basketball gym. It's a good

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place to shoot. So I think that these guys will

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be a okay And I don't know that the moment,

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it's a lot of upperclassmen in this game. I don't

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know that the moment will actually you know, get to

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these guys. I think they'll be okay, And everybody wants

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to get this Saturday, right, Gaybridge is the goal now

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because that's big spotlight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it'll actually be It'll actually be Sunday by itself

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at night.

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Speaker 1: So that's gonna be Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: The final is gonna be at Gainbridge, Gamebridge in where

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the Pacers play and Gamebridge Field House, I think it is.

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We're in Indiana, Pacers play and that will standalone at

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eight pm on a Sunday night, in between the Final

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four and the and the championship game. So that's pretty

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cool right there, that you know, you're gonna have a

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bunch of people in town for Final Four weekend and

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on Sunday night it's you know, they may get they

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may get like, you know, ten thousand for that game,

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you know, in the Pacers Arena. So that is a

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pretty big prize in my opinion, Rob. And you know,

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one other thing I'll point out, just to I guess

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make a further case for the total. You talked about

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Wichita State not you know, shooting the ball particularly well

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Kenyan Giles, who has been just a bucket all year

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for Wichita State four for fifteen in that game, and

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he could not get his shot going. I know this

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because I was on Wichita State plus four and a

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half in that game. And yet still somehow Wichita State

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came back, Rob. They were down twenty six points early

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in the in the first half of that game, they

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came all the way back to cover the four and

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a half and there and even with the shooting woes,

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there was one hundred and sixty two points in that

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Wichita Tulsa game.

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Speaker 1: You mean to tell me this game's gonna have less

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points than that? Game. I don't know if I could

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see that, so I leaned toward the open.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, quick story about that, which I had posted a

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picture from Las Vegas when I was on vacation before

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we went into the concert. Had a lot of people

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there and some wager talk colleagues. But Teddy was there,

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Brian Leonard, myself and me and Teddy both had Wichita

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State plus four and a half. And there's TVs all

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over the place, and we are when we arrived at

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the place, we're getting smashed. The comeback begins and as

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superstitious as better as are I know I am, I

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know Teddy is. We would be on one end of

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the table and it would go all wrong, so we'd

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walk all the way to the other end of the

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table where it would go right. And we just stood

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there till the final and covered that four and a half.

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But you know, Adam, last thing I'll close with is

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if somebody could argue us and say, you know what

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the Wichita State tolds. The game had a lot of

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free throws. There was a lot of extension at the

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end of that game, and you know, it's a valid point. However,

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this game has that say, potential for extension at the

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end of the game. You have to figure that in

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a game that's lying this close, game that probably will

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be close, you probably get that extension. So I think

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we're both saying the same thing here as far as

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over is concerned. We'll see if it gets over that number,

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it's going to be a really exciting game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the Again, you want to talk

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about potential extension at the end of the game. I

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think the only way there's not extension at the end

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of this game, Rob, is if it is like a

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one possession game, right, like where it's like a one

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possession game and you got teams playing for a stop,

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in which case, if you are you know, if you

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do like the over in that scenario, well maybe you

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get maybe you get the Rob Bino special from last

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night and it ends up in ot and you go

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ahead and cover the over there. So yeah, I think

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there's that's kind of how I think.

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Speaker 1: You have to look at it.

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Speaker 2: And again, you'd have to have a serious sort of

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dud from one of these teams, I think for this

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one to not go over the total All right, Joey

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Cheese is in the chat. He's here for the Yukon hatred. Listen,

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Joey I already I already said, is someone that uh,

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you know, the the great part about being a sports

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better is.

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Speaker 1: And not a fan.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, I'm a fan of you know, I consider myself

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a fan of Siena College because that's where I went,

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and I'm always gonna have a little bit of bias there.

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But Rob, you know, the beautiful part about being a

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sports better and not really being a fan is you

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can hate a tea one day and then the next

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day you're all over that team. That was me with Yukon.

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I was on them against Michigan State, although I have

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to admit I was on the wrong side of the

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duke game. I had Duke minus five, thought I was chilling,

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thought it was all good, and here comes Yukon back

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to you know, win the win of the tournament without

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a doubt. So shout out to Joey Cheese and his

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Yukon Huskies. They'll be here in Indie this weekend and

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we'll get to them maybe a little later in the show,

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definitely tomorrow. That game will get the full treatment tomorrow.

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But first we got a game that goes tonight that

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needs a full treatment. This will be part two semi

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final Number two Hinkle Field House, Auburn Tigers Illinois State Redbirds.

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Rob geographically very close for Illinois State. I hear it's

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going to be a lot of red at Hinkle tonight.

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Some of that red is going to be North New

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Mexico Red Don't underestimate that fan base. They will come

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support their team pretty much everywhere. But I think most

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of the red is going to be Illinois State. A

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quick drive from Normal to Indianapolis and kind of a

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big deal for them.

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Speaker 3: Rob.

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Speaker 2: I know it's you know the nit, but getting a

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chance to beat Auburn is a big deal for a

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school in the Valley, especially when none of these SEC

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schools will will give them the time of day during

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the regular season. So Auburn, Illinois State, I'll let you

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kick this one off. How are you attacking this game?

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Speaker 3: This is interesting again because I think you can make

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cases for both sides here. You know, the one thing

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I had to overcome or try to overcome in this

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handicap adam is the class difference between conferences. I get

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to a point and I say, well, this is the

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Missouri Valley team really going to be as good as

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the SEC team with the SEC talent. I know when

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this tournament started you had had the opinion that if

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Auburn comes to play, they probably should win this tournament.

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They're probably the best on paper. And then they go

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out and they kind of play with their food, so

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to speak, in a couple of games here and then

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they did get the job done to get to this point.

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And now when you're at this point, if you're Auburn,

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it's got to be full pedal to the medal. Now,

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the path to get here for these two teams, certainly

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Illinois State had the way more difficult path. Right the

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opening game against Kent State is I think back now,

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it seems an eternity a go, But I remember liking

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Kent State in that game. I played Kent State. In

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that game, I thought they'll play they'll play close, they

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always give you a good forty minutes. They got destroyed.

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Never in doubt. Illinois State win that night at home.

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Then they get forced to the road to play the

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one seed. Wait Forrest do the job there. Then they

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get forced to the road play what could arguably have

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been the hottest team in this tournament. Dayton beat Dayton

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at home, beat Dayton at their own game, basically just

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outdefended Dayton, and so now they're here, question is can

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they defend Auburn? You know, total wise, Adam, this is

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a here's the problem I run into with total here.

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You know, I'd like comp games. When I look back

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at Auburn's Seattle Seattle, Seattle is a slow tortoise type team.

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Defensive base, don't shoot it incredibly well at all. That

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game goes ninety one to eighty five, one hundred and

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seventy six. Let's Seattle score eighty five. And that kind

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of takes me away from my first thought process, which

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would have been under this game could very well get

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over Illinois State. For what it's worth, they do hang

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their hat on defense, but they've been good offensively down

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the stretch. And a guy that you've mentioned a bunch

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of times on the show, Johnny Kinsinger, seems to be

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playing his best ball of the season now, which is

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helpful to Illinois State. Because you take a look at

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what Stephen Pearl had to say about this game, I'll

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just read the quote here. Pearl noted that his club

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has to focus on six junior forward Chase Walker. Chase

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Walker's been all everything for Illinois State. So if the

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focal point goes to Walker, guys like Kinsinger are going

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to have to step up offensively. Two things here, in

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its simplest form, I do believe Illinois State's gonna be

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fully focused and Illinois State's is gonna have a ton

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of energy, and sometimes Auburn gets lacksed. No, Auburn has

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had two games in this tournament where they had sixteen

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point leads and blew them both at home on their

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home floor, blew them in the fact that they didn't

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cover games that they should have covered against Nevada in Seattle.

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So it's hard for me to back Auburn here. It's

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almost equally as hard for me to push myself to

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the Illinois State side. But I think that's where I

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would land, and I think you might get a doubleheader

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worth of overs because again, Auburn allows teams to score

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at them. I mean, they're a funny team, they just

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don't They don't give me the impression all season long

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that they are fully focused for forty minutes. There's lackadaisical

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stretches and games for them, especially defensively. Illinois State I

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don't think will show that so I have a slight

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lean here toward the over I think that would be

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my number one option, and then very close, almost like

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a horse race entry one on one A. I think

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Illinois State pleasant points is probably a good spot.

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Speaker 2: You know, Like I still am not convinced that, even

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now that we're at Hinkle, that Auburn really cares about

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this tournament. Like if you watched every minute of Auburn basketball,

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they are they're just playing care free, like they are

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just out there shucking shots up. Now that's it's a

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little dangerous because they have like their players are better

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than Illinois State players. Like that's not let's not get

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that confused. I mean, Keyshawn Hall, Kevin Overton has been tremendous,

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Like Pettiford's played really good, Like individually, they have the

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best players in this tournament, right, And you know, you

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go back to I think it was like the South

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Alabama game. They didn't care about that game, and then

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on five straight possessions, they hit five straight threes, and

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suddenly you went from them being down six at halftime

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to suddenly, now you're starting to do the math.

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Speaker 1: Am I good?

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Speaker 2: With nineteen and a half. It literally got to that

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point as someone that was on South Alabama. Am I

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good with nineteen and a half here, I was just

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up six at halftime. You know, you talked about the

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Seattle game, Rob, Seattle's got some size and the ability

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to score in the front court, and Auburn, you know,

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just had they just didn't. Again, there was no real

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00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:42,400
effort to stop them. Now, Seattle hit sixteen threes, but

476
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:45,279
a lot of that was because stuff was so open,

477
00:25:45,319 --> 00:25:47,400
because eventually they had to start guarding the guys in

478
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,559
the paint and now all of a sudden, Seattle had

479
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,160
had all these three point shots open where they hit

480
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:56,480
fifty one point seven percent from the field. But Auburn

481
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:58,400
still won the game by six. And I think that's

482
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:03,119
the trend we're starting to uncover here is once again

483
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,759
Auburn is the better team and you and you know

484
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,599
they You go back to the Nevada game. I was

485
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:13,279
on Avada plus the points there. They were flirting with

486
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,279
being down twenty in that game, but like you know,

487
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:20,359
Auburn again, they're not really guarding the rim, and Nevada

488
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,960
kept working hard and got their way back into the game.

489
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 1: Part of the reason Auburn can't guard the rim. Rob is.

490
00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: They are one of the teams without one of their

491
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,039
better players. You know, they've been without key Sean Murphy.

492
00:26:33,839 --> 00:26:37,839
Key Sean Murphy, six foot ten forward, not the end

493
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,720
all be all, but he is a lot better defensively

494
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,680
than the than who's been taking his minutes. I think

495
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,680
it's been a Philip Jo Djovic has been taking his

496
00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:50,839
minutes and he's just not the defender Murphy is.

497
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:53,279
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you.

498
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be points here too, especially if Kinzinger,

499
00:26:56,079 --> 00:26:59,920
who's someone that I criticized quite a bit for being

500
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,759
down this year and and sort of you know, costing.

501
00:27:02,839 --> 00:27:04,319
Speaker 1: I think I had Illinois State.

502
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,759
Speaker 2: Number one or very close to the top of my

503
00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:10,920
power rankings for this league coming into the season, and

504
00:27:11,079 --> 00:27:13,640
Kinsinger just did not replicate what he did last year.

505
00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:16,480
But you know, we we You texted me because I

506
00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,400
know you cashed a bet in that Illinois State Wake

507
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,160
Forest game, and you texted me Kinsinger with a bunch

508
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,039
of exclamation points, and I texted you back, it's about time.

509
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:28,279
Speaker 1: And you know, really he's had a good.

510
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 2: Postseason tournament here and if he's gonna do that, and

511
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,480
Chase Walker can you know, we know he can score inside.

512
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,799
He's been as good as it, you know, as good

513
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:40,559
as it gets in the NBC for post post presence,

514
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,599
sort of like guy that can draw defenses, they're gonna

515
00:27:43,599 --> 00:27:44,480
have to worry about him.

516
00:27:45,599 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. I think we're seeing this

517
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,920
game the same way.

518
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know I called it lackadaisical. You called

519
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,359
it care free. It means the same thing Auburn is.

520
00:27:57,559 --> 00:27:59,880
Just it's almost like they know, hey, we're better than

521
00:28:00,519 --> 00:28:03,359
the South Alabama game that you referred to. I even forget,

522
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,559
Like I say, these things seem like an eternity to go.

523
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,079
But remember this South Alabama showed up with like seven guys.

524
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were without two of their best players, which

525
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,279
was unknown unbeknownst to me.

526
00:28:14,599 --> 00:28:18,079
Speaker 1: I was yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was crazy.

527
00:28:18,079 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 3: And then Auburn like all right, you know, green light

528
00:28:21,039 --> 00:28:24,920
hit the gas and next thing you know, they're running away.

529
00:28:25,079 --> 00:28:28,079
So I think they can always score on anybody.

530
00:28:28,319 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: I know.

531
00:28:28,599 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 3: Illinois State has been good defensively. I don't know the

532
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,000
Illinois State can take Auburn totally out of their game

533
00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:38,279
for forty minutes. Illinois State, they're not gonna win this

534
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,559
game the way they beat Dayton. Let's put it that way.

535
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,240
I'm gonna have to score, so I.

536
00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: Do like over in that contest.

537
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,519
Speaker 2: All right, So we did cast our parlay yesterday, Today's

538
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,440
so we are gonna put together a three team or

539
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,440
today and you have basically we've got four games to

540
00:28:58,519 --> 00:29:01,920
choose from. There's two Crown games tonight. Now we did

541
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,559
the full breakdown of those games yesterday. There's two NIT games,

542
00:29:05,799 --> 00:29:08,839
which we just broke down in full. So Rob, because

543
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,559
this is where it fits on the show, let's go

544
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:14,119
to the Crown. But let's go to the semi final

545
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,359
game first on Saturday, because it's the only time we're

546
00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:20,160
going to talk about this game. There's no number out

547
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,440
for it yet, but I don't think it really matters

548
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,480
in terms of like us breaking this game down. And

549
00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:28,759
I'll tell you guys that I think it's likely something

550
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,960
like Oklahoma minus one. I can't see this opening very

551
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,960
far off a pick either way. I think you're gonna

552
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,000
see like a pick maybe a minus one Baylor, maybe

553
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,359
a minus one Oklahoma. So this is just where this

554
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,640
game fits in terms of our shows. Show scheduled the

555
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,920
next two days, So Rob, let's do a little look ahead.

556
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:52,920
This is the Crown semi Final which is on Saturday,

557
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,640
and then with the time left, we'll circle back and

558
00:29:56,319 --> 00:29:58,799
maybe rehash some of the show from yesterday. Try to

559
00:29:58,839 --> 00:30:02,079
find a couple winning bets for today's slate. Oklahoma, Baylor.

560
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,720
I had Baylor last night. You ended up being right

561
00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:08,359
on Oklahoma. How are you looking at Baylor Oklahoma now

562
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:09,480
in the semi final round?

563
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, general, right off the top of my head. First

564
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,680
sort of first instincts on this game would be, I

565
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:24,519
think Oklahoma got themselves together. They had their slow start,

566
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:29,000
then they pulled it together and played a really good

567
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:34,599
game from the I don't know. I would say maybe

568
00:30:35,079 --> 00:30:37,559
the six minute mark of the first half on they

569
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,759
played pretty well, and we know how hot they were

570
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,720
down the stretch, so I liked that part about them.

571
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,039
Love what Baylor did last night. However, I would caution

572
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:53,240
against Baylor simply because Minnesota is inept well offensively, they

573
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:57,559
just don't have anything. They're short players, they only have

574
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:03,559
one real score. We talked about Cracker Johnson being out.

575
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:09,680
That proved to be a problem. So for Baylor and guys,

576
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:11,640
excuse me because I'm under the weather a little bit here.

577
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,519
For Baylor, I think the issue is going to become

578
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:22,200
can they defend Oklahoma? And if they can, you know,

579
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,359
I'd be a little bit surprised. I think that Oklahoma

580
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,720
will score I think Baylor will score back.

581
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,119
Speaker 1: Wow, because nothing that I can jump in quick. You

582
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,960
need a sip of water, I'll jump in for a secon.

583
00:31:36,039 --> 00:31:37,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, go ahead, take over for me quick.

584
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:39,359
Speaker 1: Well.

585
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to just play off a point you were making.

586
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:46,119
A point you were making about that being more Minnesota

587
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,559
ineptitude than Baylor, like just being this like like such

588
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,519
a better team. I feel like if you watched the

589
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:56,279
first half in that game, Baylor led by five at

590
00:31:56,319 --> 00:31:58,799
the break, I don't know if you could have even

591
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,319
like sort of like said, oh, Baylor's like just so

592
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,759
much better than Minnesota right here. They just you know,

593
00:32:04,839 --> 00:32:07,640
they had a couple put backs and you know, I

594
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:11,759
Minnesota missed a good look right before the half. You know, obviously,

595
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,039
someone sitting there with Baylor minus three and a half,

596
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,000
I wasn't thrilled with that first half. I kind of

597
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:20,160
felt like, you know, sitting there thinking, man, we kind

598
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,279
of got out played a little bit. But you know,

599
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:25,359
I noted yesterday that they would have a big rebounding

600
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,640
edge against Minnesota, a big physic cality edge against Minnesota.

601
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,799
Maybe Minnesota doesn't, you know, maybe they start bringing in

602
00:32:33,359 --> 00:32:36,440
some of their lesser players, and Baylor's just is just

603
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:40,119
a far more skilled, more physical team. I kind of

604
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,359
think all of that happened over the course of that game,

605
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000
and then you're sitting there, like at the end of

606
00:32:46,039 --> 00:32:50,680
that game, Now Minnesota also did they did what we

607
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,359
thought they might do, or they only played six guys.

608
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,440
It's just they gave that one Shinholster, that their one

609
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,559
bench guy got a lot more minutes than he usually

610
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:04,519
does in yesterday's game. But I'm with you being like that,

611
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:08,559
just that Minnesota team was a shell of the team

612
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,759
that Minnesota was at their peak this year when they

613
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,559
were at their best, whereas I kind of think Baylor

614
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,559
showed up with their best team for this tournament. However,

615
00:33:19,079 --> 00:33:22,200
now you have to turn around and play Oklahoma, who

616
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:24,960
also showed up with all of their players, and it's

617
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,359
like rob once they shook the cobwebs. Once Oklahoma shook

618
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,039
the cobwebs, they looked like what I expected them to

619
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:34,400
look like in this tournament. So if we're kind of

620
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,119
looking ahead, I think I'm gonna like the Sooners here

621
00:33:37,519 --> 00:33:39,759
because I just think that there Again, I'll go back

622
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:40,079
to our.

623
00:33:40,039 --> 00:33:41,319
Speaker 1: Conversation from yesterday.

624
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: They were probably they were probably one crazy Missouri three

625
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:50,839
point buzzer beater away from being in the NCAA Tournament.

626
00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:53,599
We weren't sure how much how serious they were going

627
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,079
to take this tournament. They didn't play the best first half.

628
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,559
They kind of let Colorado do whatever they wanted in

629
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,400
the first top, but that second half was a lot better.

630
00:34:03,079 --> 00:34:04,960
I kind of think Oklahoma might be the favorite to

631
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,440
win this thing now, the whole thing.

632
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I said, Yes, I would have

633
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,760
played him in the NCAA tournament as they had made it.

634
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:17,880
I think they could have been trouble. It would have

635
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,880
been easy for them to take the floor yesterday at

636
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,079
him and overlook Colorado. Three starters out, you know, they

637
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:30,159
can't possibly beat us. But the shooting is more or

638
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,800
less what I was looking for once they straightened out

639
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,199
the cold start. They've got too many guys, they really do.

640
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,719
They've got so many weapons as far as scoring is concerned.

641
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,679
I don't like them defensively though, still don't like them

642
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,880
defense man. I think Baylor's got, you know, counter weaponry

643
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,360
that can attack them and score on them. It'll be

644
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,719
interesting to see where this total opens again. I think

645
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,760
you'll get a totally different game. Baylor has to play

646
00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:00,440
a totally different style here for the Colorado side today,

647
00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:05,679
thirty three points came on free throws. Oklahoma's gotta stop

648
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,159
following people. I know it was an overtime game and

649
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,079
there was a lot of extension. And let me just

650
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:12,280
say real quick, because you talked about that Missouri game

651
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,599
where they get beat by the three by Mark Mitchell

652
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:18,920
of all people at the buzzer. And Oklahoma went through

653
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,079
those devastating losses early. It shows kind of how the

654
00:35:23,199 --> 00:35:26,320
season has turned for them, because you know what, last night, Adam,

655
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,119
it could have been another devastating loss for them, Like

656
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,159
early in the season. You know what would have happened,

657
00:35:31,199 --> 00:35:33,360
Colorado would have hit a three at the buzzer and

658
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,000
won that game walk off three. It didn't happen last night.

659
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:40,320
The game got extended and Oklahoma winds up winning. I'm

660
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,880
gonna look at total here if it's not unreasonable, and

661
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,559
I agree with you that I think Oklahoma's probably the

662
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,880
best team remaining in this field.

663
00:35:48,119 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Porter Moser looked like he was having fun

664
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,800
last night. That looked like a team that wanted to

665
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:56,199
be there.

666
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,199
Speaker 2: And you know what, Like, I'm not gonna discount them

667
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,800
for struggling with a shorthanded Colorado team because I think

668
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,960
we were both right in our counterpoint yesterday, and I

669
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:08,599
think it's part of the reason that you gravitated toward

670
00:36:08,679 --> 00:36:11,920
team total as opposed to side. Tad Boyle would not

671
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,960
have come to this tournament if he was not taking

672
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,519
it seriously and like preparing his team to play. And listen, Colorado,

673
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,119
they showed up to play. They played extremely hard. Yeah,

674
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:26,760
they were a little bit shorthanded, but don't knock Oklahoma

675
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,840
for like not blowing them out, because that was a

676
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,679
team that was well prepared, that was that was there

677
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,119
for that opportunity to win.

678
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: So I love to see so far, two games I

679
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:39,800
don't think we've seen.

680
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going off of a chat question here

681
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,320
and we can we can kind of get into this

682
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,079
as we circle back on the games from yesterday that

683
00:36:47,199 --> 00:36:50,639
we've broken down the two that will go tonight. So far,

684
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,559
I don't think any team has showed up and just

685
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,320
not wanted to be there. I just think Minnesota was

686
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,639
very very undermanned in that Baylor game. So let's go

687
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,920
back to the two games that we talked about yesterday

688
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,960
for a minute. Rob that's going to be tonight's game,

689
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:09,679
West Virginia Stanford, Creighton Rutgers. Does what you saw last

690
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,320
night from a competitiveness standpoint, and the fact that there

691
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,280
was some people in the stands, I was actually it

692
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,119
was more well attended than I thought it was going

693
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:18,320
to be.

694
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,679
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't. It wasn't full house, but there

695
00:37:21,679 --> 00:37:22,480
were some people there.

696
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,119
Speaker 2: Now that you've had the luxury of watching two games,

697
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,400
does that change your opinion on the two games we

698
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:29,599
talked about yesterday at all?

699
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,639
Speaker 3: Well, I always thought that West Virginia would come to

700
00:37:34,679 --> 00:37:37,480
play tonight. I don't think that Ross Hodge would have

701
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:40,079
it any other way. He's kind of an intense coach

702
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,599
defensive mind that we went through all of this yesterday,

703
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,400
and I don't think that my opinion changes of the

704
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:53,159
strategic way that West Virginia has to go about this. Obviously,

705
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:59,400
you know, just like Bruce Pearl is zeroing in on

706
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:03,880
Chase Walker, you know they're gonna zero in on a quay.

707
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,519
There's no question about it in this game, and I

708
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:09,119
think that West Virginia has the defensive capability to do it.

709
00:38:09,559 --> 00:38:13,079
I will also again, I don't like to and I

710
00:38:13,159 --> 00:38:15,599
will say that you and I haven't brought this into

711
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:21,159
context much at all, if at all, in our handicaps

712
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:24,000
of the NSKA Tournament, the NIT and the Crown. But

713
00:38:24,119 --> 00:38:26,960
I'm gonna bring I brought it in once today, I

714
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,519
brought this in yesterday. I'll do it again. I just

715
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:33,800
think that the class of the Big Twelve, the class

716
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,840
of the opposition that West Virginia had to play this year,

717
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,480
the class of the star players on those teams kind

718
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,119
of puts them in a great position to defend here tonight.

719
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:48,239
The ACC just doesn't have the same thing. But I

720
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,719
think the bigger point is West Virginia's seen all of

721
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,880
this before. They've come out victorious in some instances against

722
00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:01,519
this before. So you know from Darren Peterson' tonight they

723
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:04,840
know what they have to do here. I'd still I said, yes,

724
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:10,159
I hadn't looked at ticket sales or how they travel,

725
00:39:10,199 --> 00:39:13,840
but West Virginia, I mean Morgantown travels. I wouldn't be

726
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,440
surprised to see a lot of blue and gold in

727
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,760
the stands tonight. So it doesn't really change my opinion

728
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,800
about that game, Nor are the quotes I read about

729
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,599
Rutgers creating They all want to be here. Coaches have

730
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:27,719
said so, players too have man have said so. So

731
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,840
I think you'll get the same type of excitement and

732
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,199
focus tonight from these games.

733
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm my handicap really hasn't changed at all we

734
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,239
talked about yesterday. I will say this though, in relation

735
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,840
to that West Virginia Stanford game, I think I pointed

736
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,559
out that if a team was not going to maybe

737
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,079
be like all in on this sort of venture, it

738
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,239
would be Stanford just because. And the reason I say that,

739
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,639
I have no intel on that being true or not.

740
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,039
The reason I say that is, you know, they're close by,

741
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,920
so it's not a big like, Listen, West Virginia is

742
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:04,679
not coming.

743
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:07,039
Speaker 1: Across the country to play in this game. If they

744
00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:08,199
just straight up don't care.

745
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: But Stanford they're around the corner, you know, I just

746
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,679
and and I guess I go back to like, if

747
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,079
they are not fully engaged and they just think like,

748
00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:20,679
all right, we're gonna roll the balls out and see

749
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,519
how it goes, they will be in the same boat

750
00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:26,000
as Minnesota last night, where they're struggling to break fifty

751
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:30,000
points against this West Virginia defense. But if they show

752
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,159
up and they and they do, you know they've they've

753
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:34,760
prepared for this game, and they have a good game plan,

754
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,239
namely one I want. I think what Stanford would need

755
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,719
to do is probably goes zone and try to force

756
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,559
West Virginia into like into like shooting the basketball. They

757
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,920
they could be in the game, and without a doubt,

758
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,159
they have the best player on the floor. Buko Ocory

759
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,320
is the best player, might be the best player in

760
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,719
this in the building of any team in this tournament.

761
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,000
I mean, he's an insane talent. But if they think

762
00:40:59,039 --> 00:41:01,639
it's just gonna be like, hey, we're going to stand around, Oh,

763
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:04,440
Corey is gonna cook and you know, we'll see how

764
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,559
it goes, I think they'd be in for a root

765
00:41:06,599 --> 00:41:09,119
awakening because I do think you get the big time

766
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:11,119
defensive effort from West Virginia here.

767
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:19,519
Speaker 1: Oh, I think you're muted, Rob, I think you're muted.

768
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,679
Speaker 3: Am I better now?

769
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're better?

770
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Adam. I think also to your point,

771
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,239
I think that West Virginia has had to shoot the basketball,

772
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,119
even though they're not a good shoot Sometimes these statistics,

773
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,440
we talk about it a lot sometimes are a bit skewed.

774
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:38,519
When you're shooting into big twelve defenses for nineteen games,

775
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:42,320
twenty games, that's going to lower your percentage Stanford's defense,

776
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,760
I think you said it yesterday. I agree totally. It's

777
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,639
not good. It's not good for West Virginia. This is

778
00:41:48,679 --> 00:41:50,440
going to be a step down to defensive class. And

779
00:41:50,519 --> 00:41:53,639
maybe guys are able to make shots tonight or find

780
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,159
openings tonight that they couldn't find a big twelve player.

781
00:41:59,119 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: All right, Rob, maybe let's preview very quick preview into

782
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,239
what we're going to talk about tomorrow. So tomorrow will

783
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,400
be Tomorrow will be our Final four show where we

784
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:16,239
break down both final four matchups. We'll also look at

785
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,239
the NIT Championship game, since we will have a matchup

786
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,440
after the semi finals tonight and then the other Crown

787
00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:26,000
semi final tomorrow, We're going to take a look at

788
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:27,920
that as well, because of course we'll know what it

789
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:32,679
is after Rutgers and Creighton, Stanford and West Virginia play tonight.

790
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:34,119
Speaker 1: But I want to go to the.

791
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:38,519
Speaker 2: Chat because Walter says, I've got to ask Adam does

792
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:41,920
he still think Yukon sucks seems a bit outside on

793
00:42:42,039 --> 00:42:47,199
that one. To answer your question, my opinion on Yukon

794
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,639
hasn't really changed. But you have to understand that the

795
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:54,920
NCAA tournament is all about matchups, and so when I

796
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:59,239
was really anti Yukon, so two things. One, I was

797
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,880
anti uk against the number in the Big East because

798
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,039
I did not feel like they were like worthy of

799
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:07,119
the of the numbers that.

800
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: They were laying in February February in the Big East.

801
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 2: Then when I sort of like doubled down on that

802
00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:17,400
again was in the Big East tournament, where I didn't

803
00:43:17,519 --> 00:43:19,880
necessarily think there were a better team than Saint John's.

804
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,920
I'm still not sure that I don't think my opinion

805
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,239
has changed, but I do think that when you get

806
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,079
into matchups that are that are super favorable and now

807
00:43:31,079 --> 00:43:33,239
all of a sudden, it's like, you know, you get

808
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,199
a little bit of momentum. They got Furman in the

809
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,360
first round, which was a gift, and then they get

810
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,920
UCLA without bill Adu in the second round. If UCLA

811
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:45,039
is healthy, I think UCLA probably has a really good

812
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:46,000
chance to win that game.

813
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: And then Michigan State. I actually bet Yukon against.

814
00:43:49,519 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 2: Michigan State in that game for five percent because I

815
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,880
felt like the matchup was so favorable to Yukon.

816
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,199
Speaker 1: I can't explain what happened in the game. I cannot,

817
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,400
Like you guys all watched it.

818
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:08,159
Speaker 2: I cannot fathom how Duke opened up a nineteen point

819
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,079
lead and did not cover five let and not only

820
00:44:11,159 --> 00:44:14,559
did they not cover five, found a way to lose

821
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:17,800
that game. That is that will forever blow my mind.

822
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,440
So to answer the question, yeah, was I theoretically was

823
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,639
I wrong on Yukon? And you know what I was

824
00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:27,280
wrong about, which is something I've said so many times, Rob,

825
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,960
I've said this a million times. Yukon is the best

826
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,159
coaching staff in the country. Dan Hurley is the best

827
00:44:34,199 --> 00:44:35,519
coach in college basketball.

828
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: And he just.

829
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: His teams just do not quit. And that's maybe where

830
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,199
I underestimated Yukon a little bit. They didn't quit after

831
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,719
blowing an eighteen point What do they have an eighteen

832
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,280
point lead against Michigan State, So it dwindled completely away

833
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,159
and then and then and then you know, had the

834
00:44:56,679 --> 00:44:58,559
the sort of four or two to see that out,

835
00:44:59,079 --> 00:45:01,159
and they did not quit when they were down nineteen

836
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:01,400
to do.

837
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,159
Speaker 1: So that is where I was wrong. About Yukon. I

838
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,360
don't think my rating of them was that flawed, though,

839
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,920
what do you think about that? Rob? Do you have

840
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,239
a counterpoint to that?

841
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,519
Speaker 3: Well, I could have a comparison to it. I would

842
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:19,119
say Yukon because you made the point about them being

843
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:24,280
overpriced inside league play all season long, fair point, fair assessment,

844
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,719
valid assessment. Say the same thing about Michigan. Look where

845
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,639
Michigan is. Michigan failed to cover eight straight and Big

846
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,440
ten play just too high priced. You know, when you're

847
00:45:34,559 --> 00:45:40,480
talking about straight up in ats, there are two different conversations.

848
00:45:40,519 --> 00:45:44,559
And I think that you and I and anybody else

849
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,599
out there who's betting games every day, we have a

850
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,079
different assessment of things. Our wins and losses are according

851
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:55,400
to point spread. Are who's good and who sucks is

852
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,440
according to point spread? It's not necessarily according to straight up.

853
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,119
We don't pay attention to AP top twenty five poles.

854
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:05,239
It doesn't matter. We pay attention to our own top

855
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,760
twenty five power rating poles, which normally are more accurate

856
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,199
than an AP Top twenty five. So I think it's

857
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,280
two separate conversations. You can in one breath say Yukon

858
00:46:15,519 --> 00:46:19,000
sucks and mean it as far as points spread is concerned,

859
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:23,480
as far as our every day endeavor is concerned. But

860
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:26,280
it might not. You know, they're still thirty plus wins.

861
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,119
They're a good basketball team with a lot of depth.

862
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,239
I will say the one thing about Yukon Adam that

863
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,960
I do think plenty of people now are on the bandwagon.

864
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,880
Not that they didn't think he was a good player

865
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,280
to start with, but I don't think people thought he

866
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,079
could play to the level he's playing now. Is Terris Reid.

867
00:46:46,639 --> 00:46:50,519
Terris Reid has just been an absolute force under no

868
00:46:50,639 --> 00:46:54,079
matter who they've played. For about the last ten games,

869
00:46:54,199 --> 00:46:59,559
he has shredded teams underneath. He's scored his passing ability.

870
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:03,079
In that Duke game, he made one pass from inside

871
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,519
the paint for a layup. It looked like a behind

872
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:08,719
the back pass at first glance it wasn't. But still

873
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,440
Terris Reid, and his free throw making ability has gone

874
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,119
up a little bit. He's still not a good free

875
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:16,800
throw shooter, but I think he's the one guy on

876
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,760
that team that is somewhat gained. If you want to

877
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,239
talk about NBA stock NBA money, that's a guy whose

878
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,119
stock has risen incredibly over the course of the last

879
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:27,679
ten games.

880
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta go to the chat verse that Colin

881
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:36,280
Gregory is referring to. He just pointed out Connor Griffin

882
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:37,679
got called up for the Pirates.

883
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a little bit of a fail by me,

884
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,599
Connor I or Colin I was gonna go to the

885
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,719
I purposely was gonna leave early to go to the

886
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,119
game in Columbus last night to see Connor Griffin play

887
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,440
because I figured he would get called up sooner than later.

888
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:58,360
And the weather just looked so not promising that I

889
00:47:58,519 --> 00:48:01,119
was like, eh, I would have had to leave on

890
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,639
Tuesday instead of Wednesday.

891
00:48:02,679 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, say, the game is.

892
00:48:04,199 --> 00:48:07,119
Speaker 2: Probably gonna get rained out anyway, long story short, game

893
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:09,639
get did not get rained out, It got played in

894
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,559
its entirety, and Connor Griffin the next day gets called

895
00:48:13,639 --> 00:48:15,960
up to the to the big League. So, yeah, missed

896
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,280
opportunity there for me, A little a little disappointed about that.

897
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:22,559
But I don't think you're gonna get the chance to

898
00:48:22,639 --> 00:48:26,199
see him at the Triple A level maybe ever again,

899
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,119
unless he's rehabbing, because he probably should have been on

900
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,880
you know, the Pirates opening day roster when uh, you know,

901
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,119
just just just sorry to go off topic there, but

902
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:37,320
I had to had to chuckle at that, because you

903
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,599
know what, I'm probably only like a half hour from

904
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:42,440
the stadium right now where where I'm at on my

905
00:48:42,519 --> 00:48:45,519
way to to Indy. So yeah, that was a that

906
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,760
was a fail for your boy, missed opportunity to see

907
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,719
Connor Griffin play. Hopefully we're gonna take advantage of this

908
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,280
opportunity though, around to that college basketball tonight. So my

909
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,760
question to you is do we you know, we were

910
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,639
trying to make up for lost time. We've only got

911
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,880
three chances at a parlay the rest of the way,

912
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,079
we do we try to fire the three team or

913
00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:09,480
here since we're feeling good about winning last night, and

914
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:11,519
maybe find a leg that the two of us agree

915
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:14,760
on to. This probably is our last chance to do

916
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,079
it today and tomorrow, probably the last chance to do

917
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:18,119
three teamers this year.

918
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:22,039
Speaker 3: And I will say this, I'm just looking here. It

919
00:49:22,079 --> 00:49:25,360
looks like there's an opener on the Oklahoma game. You

920
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,039
couldn't have been more right. Oklahoma opens minus one with

921
00:49:29,199 --> 00:49:31,440
a total of one fifty seven and a half. So

922
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:35,440
I guess that at this point in a parlay we

923
00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:40,039
could include that game because now we have odds on it. I,

924
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,119
you know, four games. I guess we shoot for three

925
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,719
here right now, a three team part. I guess we

926
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:48,559
go ahead.

927
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, no, I think we should too,

928
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,199
and I'll I'll let you get first. You got first choice,

929
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,480
so you're you. You get to pick your game first,

930
00:49:57,519 --> 00:49:59,280
whatever one you whatever one you want to go to.

931
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: All right.

932
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,679
Speaker 3: Well, as usual in this timeframe when we're on things

933
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,280
are on the move. I think we agree on the

934
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,320
other one and may end up using that as a

935
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,039
dual play. So I'm going to go ahead and play

936
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:22,159
West Virginia plus the one here tonight against Stanford. I'll

937
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,599
use the one as you know, protection against you know,

938
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,119
up by two three pointer at the end of the game. Whatever.

939
00:50:28,519 --> 00:50:30,440
But I think West Virginia wins out right, so give

940
00:50:30,519 --> 00:50:33,119
me the first leg. I'll go with West Virginia plus

941
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:34,199
the one against Stanford.

942
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,039
Speaker 1: All right, Yeah, I agree with that one too.

943
00:50:41,039 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 2: I am gonna go to our first n I T

944
00:50:43,639 --> 00:50:47,280
game tonight, Rob, I'm gonna go with the over in

945
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,880
Tulsa and New Mexico.

946
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,679
Speaker 1: I cannot see a way that that doesn't get to

947
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,440
one sixty.

948
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 2: After the whole our whole breakdown of the game the

949
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,639
fact that Tulsa, which is state Wichita State, being a

950
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,920
much you know, basically a less efficient version of New

951
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:09,079
Mexico and sort of the way they attack offensively, and

952
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,679
the fact that Kenyan Giles had a bad game still

953
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,039
got to one sixty two, and and and then the

954
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:17,559
fact that Tulsa's gonna have to probably make a whole

955
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:20,960
bunch of threes to hang with New Mexico. Here, it's

956
00:51:21,159 --> 00:51:23,480
just hard for me to believe that we don't see

957
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,079
one hundred and sixty points in this game, and that

958
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,519
total is still sitting.

959
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: There at one sixty one and a half. Is that

960
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:34,920
is that what I'm seeing? One sixty one and a half.

961
00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:35,599
Is that fair?

962
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 3: It's very fair? Yep.

963
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,519
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with the rare. You know, usually

964
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,360
I'm the one taking sides and you're giving out totals.

965
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,800
But I'm gonna go Tulsa, New Mexico over one sixty

966
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,519
one and a half will be my parlay. Leg I

967
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:57,599
just think that there's unlimited scoring in that game. I could,

968
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,800
I'll tell you what, I could probably be talked into

969
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,239
anything else, you like, Because just the way we spoke

970
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,360
about these, I feel like we're on the same page,

971
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,000
So throw one out there and I'll let you know

972
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:08,639
if I agree.

973
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm going to agree.

974
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 3: Well, if you had gone anywhere else other than in Tulsa,

975
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,840
New Mexico, we would have definitely over the total. We

976
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,159
would have co signed on that one. So that's definitely

977
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:25,639
a dual liked game. You know what, if I can,

978
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,639
I'll skip ahead to Saturday. I said it earlier in

979
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,440
our brief overview of the Oklahoma Baylor game. I think

980
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:37,000
that one's gonna get up there. Oklahoma's gonna score, Baylor's

981
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:41,159
gonna punch back. Baylor does have offensive capability one fifty

982
00:52:41,199 --> 00:52:43,760
seven and a half. I was expecting, honestly, at him.

983
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,880
I was expecting to see a one to sixty on

984
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,360
that game. And when it popped up at one fifty

985
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,400
seven and a half, man, I feel like that's got

986
00:52:52,519 --> 00:52:54,079
to be an over game. I don't know how you

987
00:52:54,159 --> 00:52:55,800
feel about that one, but it just seems to me

988
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,920
that Oklahoma Baylor's gonna have a different animal offensively to

989
00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:03,599
defend here in this game. That other Oklahoma's got it going.

990
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,400
And for Oklahoma, you know, Colorado put up those types

991
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,039
of numbers yesterday with six freshmen on the floor. So

992
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:12,559
I think Baylor can do the same.

993
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will, I guess if you if we're if

994
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:20,960
we're cool with including a game that's on Saturday, which

995
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,719
is ultimately what we're gonna do with tomorrow's parlay as well,

996
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,039
is going to be like a probably like a couple

997
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:26,719
of days ahead.

998
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: I'm good with either.

999
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:31,119
Speaker 2: I mean, I can get down with the over there

1000
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,920
if that's what you want for your I mean I agree.

1001
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:37,400
Like the joint leg for US is really West Virginia, right,

1002
00:53:37,559 --> 00:53:40,840
so what we can call that. The co leg that

1003
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,400
we can't very much agree on is West Virginia, and

1004
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,920
I'm gonna take the over in Tulsa, New Mexico. Yeah,

1005
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,599
I don't see why we get it Saturday.

1006
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 3: Let's let's do this. Let's let's let that because the

1007
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,719
Oklahoma Baylor line from what I'm seeing here, is only

1008
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,280
available in one spot right now, maybe we'll save that

1009
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,559
till tomorrow, and let's we'll say tomorrow, let's double back

1010
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:08,159
to this Illinois State Auburn game, and whichever way you choose,

1011
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,559
I happen to think it's gonna go over. Adam one

1012
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,159
for nine looks like the number Auburn's taking some money

1013
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,239
at this point in a couple of places, but mostly

1014
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,840
still seven. It's not a bunch of money.

1015
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you what I already I'm already in

1016
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,760
lockstep with you, and I've already revealed that I agree

1017
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,079
with you on West Virginia. So I'll let you make

1018
00:54:30,159 --> 00:54:31,920
the call. This one can be your game.

1019
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,599
Speaker 3: You you pick whatever you like that let's play the

1020
00:54:34,639 --> 00:54:37,719
Illinois State Auburn game over. I just think that Auburn

1021
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,480
is allowing teams to score too much. We talked about

1022
00:54:41,519 --> 00:54:43,840
the game at length, so we don't have to rehash

1023
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:45,480
it again. I think we're kind of both done the

1024
00:54:45,519 --> 00:54:49,079
same wavelength here, So rather than chance it with a side,

1025
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:50,519
I'll just say I think there's going to be one

1026
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:51,480
hundred and fifty points.

1027
00:54:51,519 --> 00:54:55,039
Speaker 1: That's what we need here, and that would help me

1028
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:56,559
be a good a good host.

1029
00:54:56,679 --> 00:55:01,119
Speaker 2: I am trying to entertain Andy Lang tonight promised Tim points,

1030
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,960
I said, and he got it out to. These games

1031
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,599
gonna be a lot of points score. They're gonna be

1032
00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:10,679
exciting games. So I hope that's the case, because two

1033
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,880
n T overs likely means we had a pretty good

1034
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:18,239
time watching the games, and you're kind of getting a.

1035
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:20,599
I feel like you're getting a little bit of a

1036
00:55:20,679 --> 00:55:23,760
bargain price wise on this over in Illinois State Auburn.

1037
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,320
That dipped a little bit, which is I guess surprising

1038
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:26,599
to me.

1039
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you tell Andy Lang that our parlay includes

1040
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,239
two overs, he's gonna say ven. No, definitely forced you

1041
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:35,159
into those overs.

1042
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,199
Speaker 1: I just want to comment real quick, true believer.

1043
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: We already broke down the Illinois State Auburn game in detail,

1044
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,800
as we did the Tulsa, New Mexico game. So you

1045
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,320
can head back to the replay of this show you

1046
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,199
get all. We did this game and probably spent ten

1047
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:58,199
to fifteen minutes on it. Rob What are you seeing

1048
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:01,079
for a number that's fare for Illinois Auburn.

1049
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: Over eight out of ten places I'm looking at right now,

1050
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:06,519
show one forty nine.

1051
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll roll Hi.

1052
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 3: It's as high as one fifty, it's as low as

1053
00:56:11,519 --> 00:56:12,519
one forty eight and a half.

1054
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: All right, So that'll be our three.

1055
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: We'll go in three team or for today, couple Hail

1056
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,800
Mary shots as we as we try to close the

1057
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,400
year on a strong note for the parlay. Parlay won

1058
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:28,760
yesterday with the Baylor and the team total over in

1059
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:34,039
the Oklahoma game. So tonight we have West Virginia plus one.

1060
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,679
That's our joint leg that we both agree on. I'm

1061
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,519
gonna go with Tulsa New Mexico over fift one sixty

1062
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:44,559
one and a half. Sorry, Tulsa New Mexico over one

1063
00:56:44,679 --> 00:56:46,960
sixty one and a half. And Rob is gonna go

1064
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:51,639
Illinois State Auburn over one forty nine. I like that

1065
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,920
because we'll also know if we hit or not coming

1066
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,559
into tomorrow's show. And guys, if you're looking for Final

1067
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:01,360
Four information, that is what Rob and I are coming

1068
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:06,199
on to break down tomorrow at ten am Eastern. The penultimate,

1069
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,800
I think is the word full court Press episode. We've

1070
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:13,000
only got two left. We're going Friday and then Championship Monday.

1071
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,639
So tomorrow we will cover both Final four games, the

1072
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:20,559
NIT Championship game on Sunday, and we'll also try to

1073
00:57:20,599 --> 00:57:23,840
look ahead to those Crown semi finals, which will be

1074
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,840
fully set after the games tonight. Appreciate all the support

1075
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,280
all year, guys, and appreciate the like subscribes, the donations

1076
00:57:31,519 --> 00:57:34,039
you guys buying our joint package. It helps a ton

1077
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:36,440
I do have a play in one of these games

1078
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,679
that is a client play. It will be up on

1079
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,159
my page after the show. And yeah, we will be

1080
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:46,039
back here tomorrow ten am Eastern for more full court

1081
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:46,760
press you guys.

1082
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 3: Then