Speaker 1: Good evening, everybody, and welcome to another episode of The
Speaker 1: Cajun Night Live. I am the Cajun Night Your host,
Speaker 1: Jacob Mook, and thank you everybody for joining me this evening.
Speaker 1: I want to give a quick little apology now. If
Speaker 1: my voice sounds especially horse, that is because I just
Speaker 1: got in to day from Philadelphia and from Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: This past weekend, we celebrated the two hundred and fiftieth
Speaker 1: Marine Corps Birthday and I was screaming my head off
Speaker 1: legitimately for four consecutive days. It was amazing. It was
Speaker 1: a great time. I had only been to Philly for
Speaker 1: one time in my life before this. I have to
Speaker 1: say I am a fan of old town Philadelphia. Not
Speaker 1: the downtown area, not the Central Business District or any
Speaker 1: of that, but the old historic town of Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: If you are a history nerd and you love the
Speaker 1: pre American and colonial.
Speaker 2: Historical sites, it is amazing.
Speaker 1: So highly recommend if you have the means to head
Speaker 1: to Philly do so.
Speaker 2: Then.
Speaker 1: Also, we went to Washington, d C. Saw my old
Speaker 1: duty station. We were actually at the Capitol Building. We
Speaker 1: swung by the Senate. We just doing the you know,
Speaker 1: the typical sight seeing thing. I was stationed there. A
Speaker 1: person I was with had never been there before, so
Speaker 1: we were having a great time. Little did I know that.
Speaker 1: And you know what else, this actually upset me quite
Speaker 1: a good bit. We couldn't go to any of the
Speaker 1: Smithsonian Museums, which is a massive thing to see while
Speaker 1: you're Washington, d C.
Speaker 2: There's tons of them.
Speaker 1: Even if the Native American Museum is not your jim,
Speaker 1: maybe the Air and Space Museum is, Maybe the Natural
Speaker 1: History Museum is, Maybe the American History Museum is. Maybe
Speaker 1: one of the Art Museum. There's so many cool ones
Speaker 1: to check out. Realistically, I highly recommend you go and
Speaker 1: check this out. But not only that, the Marine Corps
Speaker 1: Museum out of Quatico, Virginia was also shut down because
Speaker 1: of the government shut down. So I was upset. But
Speaker 1: that's fine now as of time recording this evening. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, the government has passed it where
Speaker 1: it's ready to go to Trump's desk to be signed,
Speaker 1: ending the longest shutdown in American history of our government.
Speaker 2: Which is a good thing. But also y'all couldn't figure
Speaker 2: that out one week prior.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just anyway, I know I'm just agitated on it,
Speaker 1: but hey, it is what it is. So again, apologies
Speaker 1: for my voice. It is what it is. I am
Speaker 1: doing my best here. Throat, losages and caffeine can only
Speaker 1: do so much. But we must get after it. The
Speaker 1: show must go on, and let's talk about it now.
Speaker 1: The Trump Administration Live updates. House passes bill to end
Speaker 1: shut down. Yes, indeed, the time in shutdown. There's a
Speaker 1: record now, y'all. Forty two days, twenty three hours, ten minutes.
Speaker 1: This article is actually updated. This is from the New
Speaker 1: York Times. This article was updated as of twenty four
Speaker 1: minutes ago as of time recording.
Speaker 2: So let's get into it here.
Speaker 1: Congress clears a bill to end the nation's longest shutdown.
Speaker 1: The House on Wednesday gave final passage to a spending
Speaker 1: package to reopen the government, sending the legislation to President
Speaker 1: Trump's desk and all but guaranteeing an end to the
Speaker 1: longest shutdown in the nation's history. The vote of two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty two to two hundred and nine votes
Speaker 1: came on day forty three of the shutdown, in days
Speaker 1: after eight senators in the Democratic Caucus broke their own
Speaker 1: parties blockade and joined the Republicans in allowing the spending
Speaker 1: measure to move forward, prompting a bitter backlash in their ranks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's also that's something that's crazy about this.
Speaker 1: There are not just these six, there are multiple Democrats
Speaker 1: that are calling for Chuck Schumer to lose his job
Speaker 1: or at.
Speaker 2: Least his position, if nothing else.
Speaker 1: They acknowledged that this was a Chuck Schumer versus through
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of different means here, Chuck Schumer
Speaker 1: versus Donald Trump. That that's all it's ever boiled down to.
Speaker 1: And they acknowledged the fact that they were leveraging the
Speaker 1: welfare of the American citizenry to further their own means,
Speaker 1: which of course is not the first time that any
Speaker 1: government party has done that to the other. It has
Speaker 1: happened on both sides. That to be said, the longest
Speaker 1: shut down in government history, damn near a month and
Speaker 1: a half. Like, I understand, you're trying to like take
Speaker 1: a stance and show a unified force, and but you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't injure the American people to prove your point.
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of the American voters
Speaker 1: recognize that and of course you're gonna have your sick
Speaker 1: of fance on either side, right who say that this
Speaker 1: is clearly a Republican problem. This is clearly a Democrat problem.
Speaker 1: It listen, call it what you want. But it took
Speaker 1: six Democrats, sorry, eight senators to swap from the Democrat
Speaker 1: ticket to the Republican ticket at least on this one
Speaker 1: vote to get the government back functioning.
Speaker 2: And yes, it did just kick the can down the
Speaker 2: road a little bit.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, but at least the people are gonna get
Speaker 1: the aid they need. The government is gonna reopen airports
Speaker 1: and flights camera zoom. I'm just saying it's it's ridiculous
Speaker 1: how they let it go this far.
Speaker 2: To prove a point. But neither here Northelon, It's get
Speaker 2: after it here.
Speaker 1: It was the first time in the House, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it was the first time in the House had hailed
Speaker 1: a vote in nearly two months, as it took an
Speaker 1: extended recess during the shutdown. Six Democrats joined the Republicans
Speaker 1: in approving the bill. Only two Republicans voted against it,
Speaker 1: Representatives Thomas Massey from Kentucky and Greg.
Speaker 2: Stuby Stube, I don't know of Florida.
Speaker 1: Mister Trump was scheduled to sign the bill on Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: Earlier in the day, his Budget office championed it as
Speaker 1: a statement as devoid of any of the partisan poison
Speaker 1: pill provisions demanded by Democrats. That was a reference to
Speaker 1: what had been Democrats' chief demand in the shutdown fight,
Speaker 1: the extension of federal health care subsidies set to expire
Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Most Congressional Republicans strongly
Speaker 1: opposed such an extension, and while mister Trump had initially
Speaker 1: shown a flash of interest in brokering a bipartisan deal
Speaker 1: on the issue, the shutdown dragged on or I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: As the shutdown dragged on, he made it clear that
Speaker 1: he had no interest in negotiating.
Speaker 2: His refusal to.
Speaker 1: Do so ultimately led a critical group of Democrats in
Speaker 1: the Senate to conclude that with hundreds of thousands of
Speaker 1: federal workers furloughed, millions of Americans at risk of losing
Speaker 1: food assistants, and millions more facing air travel disruptions, it
Speaker 1: was time to find an.
Speaker 2: Off ramp from the shutdown. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love how they're trying to spin the narrative to
Speaker 1: where it was. Yeah, because it was Trump's fault that
Speaker 1: that was about to run out. That all right, whatever,
Speaker 1: it's the New York Times. You know their biases are
Speaker 1: going to be what it's going to be here. And again,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is one hundred percent Democrats' faults.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's one hundred per Trump's fault.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that it's okay for you to be a
Speaker 1: critical thinker and point the finger in multiple directions.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: In the House, the six Democrats who voted to reopen
Speaker 1: the government were Representative Adam Gray of California, Wow, Marie
Speaker 1: glosen comp Perez, that's a that's her maiden name or
Speaker 1: her middle name, Gluesen comp. Jesus Okay of Washington, Jared
Speaker 1: Goldman or Golden of Maine, Henry Culler of Texas, Tom
Speaker 1: Suosi of New York, and Don Davis of North Carolina,
Speaker 1: all representing swing districts. Interesting this is a direct quote
Speaker 1: from Tom Cole, Republican of Oklahoma and the chairman of
Speaker 1: the Appropriations Committee. History reminds us that shutdowns never changed
Speaker 1: the outcome, only the cost paid by the American people.
Speaker 2: Over the last forty three days.
Speaker 1: The facts did not shift, the votes required did not shift,
Speaker 1: and the path forward did not change. I think that's
Speaker 1: pretty profound and extremely accurate, to be.
Speaker 2: Honest with you.
Speaker 1: The Democratic defections in the Senate prompted outrage among House Democrats, who,
Speaker 1: like most of their colleagues in the Senate, said their
Speaker 1: parties should have hailed together firmly against any government funding
Speaker 1: bill that failed to address health care costs. Is a
Speaker 1: quote here from AOC. Good lord, this woman, it blows
Speaker 1: my mind that she still has the job that she has.
Speaker 1: But okay, we have federal.
Speaker 2: Workers across the country that have been missing paychecks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: why is that, AOC? Why is that? Okay, we have
Speaker 2: Snap recipients, millions of Snap recipients across the country whose
Speaker 2: access to food stability was imperiled, and we have to
Speaker 2: figure out what that was for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I agree, AOC. Why did you and your
Speaker 1: homies hmm? Anyway, moving on, miss Ocassio, Cortes said that
Speaker 1: the Trump administration had inflicted quote unquote cruelty on the
Speaker 1: American people during the shutdown, including by trying to halt
Speaker 1: fuel or trying to halt full.
Speaker 2: Federal funding for food stamps. So this was wow.
Speaker 1: AOC is one of the most people that have ever
Speaker 1: been some might say the most person that's ever been.
Speaker 2: All Right, we cannot enable this kind of cruelty with
Speaker 2: our cowardice, she said, Well, she called herself a coward.
Speaker 2: I'll take that.
Speaker 1: Having elevated the healthcare subsidies as a political issue, Democrats
Speaker 1: are eager to keep the pressure on Republicans to extend
Speaker 1: them or face the consequences from voters whose polls show
Speaker 1: overwhelmingly want to see them protected. Representative Hakeem Jeffries of
Speaker 1: New York which that guy also should be in prison
Speaker 1: for actual calling for violence on other people. Other voted
Speaker 1: officials voted on officials anyway, Hakim Jeffries is a massive
Speaker 1: piece of trash. The Democrat leader said he and other
Speaker 1: party leaders would file a discharge petition, a procedural maneuver
Speaker 1: to steer around the leadership and force a bill to
Speaker 1: the floor to extend the subsidies for three years. Such
Speaker 1: a measure is unlikely to pick up much Republican support.
Speaker 1: Yeah you think is a direct quote from Jeffries himself.
Speaker 1: There are only two ways this fight will end. Either
Speaker 1: Republicans will finally decide to extend the Affordable Care Act
Speaker 1: tax credits this year or the American people will throw
Speaker 1: Republicans out of the jobs next year. And the Indie
Speaker 1: speakership of Donald J. Trump once and for all. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries is also one of these individuals who's completely
Speaker 1: lost touch with reality.
Speaker 2: Gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: And the fact that he is representing the same state
Speaker 1: where mom Donnie just was elected even furthers that point.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's different conversations. The mayor of New
Speaker 1: York City is not the same as Hakeem Jeffries, but
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like they're equal dangerous in other regards.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Uh, go ahead, Sam, I see your hand.
Speaker 3: Wait, Oh, is that Jeffery's fella?
Speaker 4: Is it that the one that said that his opponent's
Speaker 4: kids should be a flip since that his opponent is
Speaker 4: raising them as Nazis and all?
Speaker 2: Yes, he is the one that called for violence.
Speaker 1: Yep, he is the one that called for violence on
Speaker 1: his opponent's wife and children. And not just violence like
Speaker 1: they should be they should get spanked like no, no
Speaker 1: call for actual violence on them on the mic in
Speaker 1: front of everybody.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be considered a terroristic throught.
Speaker 2: I would think so see the Cage to Knight.
Speaker 1: Agrees with you, Samuel, But apparently people in New York
Speaker 1: just think that he's great. He is also just very
Speaker 1: much like AOC. He is one of the most people
Speaker 1: that have ever been some might say the.
Speaker 4: Most actually knowing from fashion experience, that is a terroristic throat.
Speaker 3: And he don't want to say that is because.
Speaker 4: In school I got threatened to get stabbed in my word, Jed,
Speaker 4: was you better fucking kill me because if you don't,
Speaker 4: you you'll be the one to die. That got me
Speaker 4: a terroristic threat in a couple of days suspension, But
Speaker 4: that doesn't get him in trouble at all.
Speaker 1: I don't see how that was terroristic. There was no
Speaker 1: political means or aims on that statement. Maybe a personal threat, sure,
Speaker 1: but I don't see terrorists on that.
Speaker 4: My school system was weird. I was a part of
Speaker 4: the minority of population.
Speaker 2: Uh the Wasian minority for sure, for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that being said, yeah, Hakeem Jeffers is basically saying
Speaker 1: that if something doesn't give, the Republicans will be out
Speaker 1: of a job. Meanwhile, the Republicans hold the majority, and
Speaker 1: it's yeah, he's Hakim is just kind of talking his talk.
Speaker 1: But you know, anyway, the government shutdown is over as
Speaker 1: of tomorrow when Trump signs it in, So we're good
Speaker 1: on that. Anyway, continue on, it says. The compromise measure
Speaker 1: the House approved on Wednesday includes a spending package that
Speaker 1: would fund the government through January, as well as three
Speaker 1: separate spending bills to cover programs related to agriculture, military construction, veterans,
Speaker 1: and legislative.
Speaker 2: Agencies for most of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1: The package includes a provision that would reverse layoffs of
Speaker 1: federal workers made during the shutdown and ensure retroactive pay
Speaker 1: for those who have been fur load.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's typically how that goes.
Speaker 1: And it includes a measure that would provide a wide
Speaker 1: legal avenue for Republican senators whose phone records were seized
Speaker 1: as part of the investigation by Jack Smith, the former
Speaker 1: Special Council into the attack on the Capitol on January sixth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, to sue the government for at least
Speaker 1: half a million dollars each. You know, again, I'm just
Speaker 1: I know, I might have a little bit of a
Speaker 1: bias here. That wasn't an attack on the Capitol. That
Speaker 1: was not I was just at the Capitol literally less
Speaker 1: twenty four hours ago. That was a parade, that was
Speaker 1: a peaceful protest that had a lot of things happened.
Speaker 1: But these people were let into the Capitol. The security
Speaker 1: guards and the police opened the doors for them and
Speaker 1: let them in. There was only a small handful that
Speaker 1: started tearing shit up, and then they were shut down
Speaker 1: by the other protesters. Just so we're all clear, it's
Speaker 1: not like they were allowed to start flipping cop cars,
Speaker 1: setting DC on fire, looting stores. That's not what took place.
Speaker 1: But of course the Times is going to report as
Speaker 1: the Times does and call it an attack on the
Speaker 1: Capitol on jan six. But anyway, so it also would like,
Speaker 1: I said, give a wide legal avenue for Republican senators
Speaker 1: whose phone records were seized as a part of that investigation,
Speaker 1: possibly to sue the government for at least half a
Speaker 1: million dollars each. That's interesting that provision was quietly slipped
Speaker 1: into the spending deal by Senat leaders and provoked wide
Speaker 1: bipartisan ayre among House lawmakers who have said they are
Speaker 1: looking for future avenues to strike it down.
Speaker 2: But it was just passed. If they had sought to take.
Speaker 1: It out of the spending deal, it would have prolonged
Speaker 1: the shutdown because any changes the House made would have
Speaker 1: sent the measure back.
Speaker 2: To the Senate for final approval. Okay.
Speaker 1: Representative Chip Roy of Texas, a conservative Republican who was
Speaker 1: one of the Biden Department of Justice's harshest critics, right,
Speaker 1: said it was beside my comprehension, is a direct quote,
Speaker 1: beside my comprehension that this got put in the bill,
Speaker 1: and it is why people have such a low opinion
Speaker 1: of this town. No, that's not why, you know, And again,
Speaker 1: this guy is a Republican and a very conservative person,
Speaker 1: very you know, not happy with the bid. I get
Speaker 1: that there is a long list, there's novels, there's whole
Speaker 1: encyclopedias of reasons why people have such a low opinion
Speaker 1: of Washington, DC.
Speaker 2: That's that's not just this one thing. But all right, cool.
Speaker 1: Speaker Mike Johnson said on Wednesday, ahead of the vote
Speaker 1: that the House Republicans would introduce legislation to repeal that
Speaker 1: provision and would fast track the measure for a vote
Speaker 1: as early.
Speaker 2: As next week.
Speaker 1: That is excellent, now, We have updates that are going
Speaker 1: on with this article right now. Let's see Trump repeats
Speaker 1: his calls for Senate Republicans to terminate the filibuster. During
Speaker 1: the government's shutdown, he openly or he only sparingly engaged
Speaker 1: in negotiations to reopen the government. Instead, he tried to
Speaker 1: pressure Republicans to end the filibuster. Let's see, who is
Speaker 1: this guy? Zolon Kano Young's I don't know what that
Speaker 1: dude is about, but is the writer?
Speaker 2: This is a direct quote from Trump.
Speaker 1: I just want to tell the American people, you should
Speaker 1: not forget this, Trump says, imploring voters to remember the shutdown.
Speaker 2: When they go to vote in the midterms.
Speaker 1: It seems clear Trump is prepared to use the shutdown
Speaker 1: as political ammunition against Democrats.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, no, shit, Sherlock.
Speaker 1: Polling, however, shows most Americans blame Republicans for the shutdown.
Speaker 1: I would love to see what polls they're pulling on
Speaker 1: that one. And Democrats are still prepared to attack the
Speaker 1: White House over healthcare after weeks of asking Republicans to
Speaker 1: cap healthcare premiums before reopening the government. Uh yeah, long
Speaker 1: story short, it's a lot of fingerpointing It's a lot
Speaker 1: of name calling, as always expected in Washing DC. But
Speaker 1: let's move forward in this conversation and let's read this
Speaker 1: or let's hear from this, and there is a Fox
Speaker 1: News breakdown of the House passing the bill to end
Speaker 1: the historic government shutdown, sending it to Trump tonight. Y'all
Speaker 1: send me a thumbs up if y'all can hear this one.
Speaker 3: Fox Shows Alert.
Speaker 2: Let's go back to Aisha Hosny. Do they have it here?
Speaker 5: It is congratulations, Jesse Waters live on your show. We
Speaker 5: are reopening the federal government. The votes have surpassed the
Speaker 5: magic number of two seventeen. That was the number if everybody.
Speaker 6: Was in attendance.
Speaker 7: We knew we had an attendance problem.
Speaker 5: But now we are now at two hundred and twenty two.
Speaker 2: Because you look at the.
Speaker 5: Democratic lane right there, that line six Democrats have already
Speaker 5: switched across party lines and voted with Republicans. That is,
Speaker 5: we expected a couple of them.
Speaker 8: To do that.
Speaker 5: The moderate is the centrists of people who were against
Speaker 5: a government shut down, that didn't feel good about it,
Speaker 5: that wanted to reopen the government, even if they wanted
Speaker 5: to fight for those Obamacare subsidies.
Speaker 2: Those are the.
Speaker 5: Ones that have switched over and voted along the Republicans,
Speaker 5: and there you go.
Speaker 2: That is it.
Speaker 5: They have not gabbled this yet, so technically, officially we
Speaker 5: have not passed this bill yet. But the Speaker Mike
Speaker 5: Johnson does have the votes right now to officially end
Speaker 5: this government shutdown. And what will happen next is after
Speaker 5: they gabble and they make this official. This will then
Speaker 5: go to the White House tonight because the President wants
Speaker 5: to be done with this as quickly as possible. He
Speaker 5: wants to sign it into law in immediately, get the
Speaker 5: federal government back open, and get paychecks to those federal workers,
Speaker 5: get the flights back in order. This has been nothing
Speaker 5: but chaos for the past forty plus days, and the
Speaker 5: Republicans want this to come to an end as quickly
Speaker 5: as possible. But here we are, after all of this time,
Speaker 5: the back and forth, the Democrats really did not get
Speaker 5: anything out of this, except for perhaps another fight later
Speaker 5: in January.
Speaker 9: Oh you mean you mean?
Speaker 2: You mean we're going to do this again? Is all?
Speaker 10: This is all I do here, Jesse.
Speaker 5: It's talk about funding the government over and over again.
Speaker 5: So this, yes, this bill only funds the government through
Speaker 5: January thirtieth, so it only gets us through the end
Speaker 5: of January. And I gotta say, if they don't figure
Speaker 5: out this Obamacare stuff, if they don't figure out how
Speaker 5: to appease these Democrats, they might try this again. Who
Speaker 5: knows it worked for the I mean, they got a
Speaker 5: lot of they got their base riled up. They feel
Speaker 5: like they got something out of it. They may try
Speaker 5: it again if they don't get what they want. So
Speaker 5: we will be talking again in a com All right, Well,
Speaker 5: I hope that doesn't come to it.
Speaker 2: As much as I like having you on, I hope
Speaker 2: we don't have to do this all over in January.
Speaker 2: You know, I have a weird feeling like we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to do all this again in January.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but we'll see. We shall see
Speaker 1: good members of the wet new Now, now we've gotten
Speaker 1: that out of the way, and I got to say,
Speaker 1: I am thankful that the government shutdown is about to end,
Speaker 1: even if it is temporary, even if it is only
Speaker 1: going to be until the end of January. I am
Speaker 1: hoping and praying that adults could start adulting and doing
Speaker 1: their job and finding some sort of a common ground here,
Speaker 1: because if I'm not mistaken, they just found all kinds
Speaker 1: of issues with our medical system, which to the shock
Speaker 1: of literally no one, and they have many, many ways
Speaker 1: that they're going to start making medical care or more
Speaker 1: affordable for everybody.
Speaker 2: Which should.
Speaker 1: Big underline and bold letters in italicized, should make it
Speaker 1: a little easier for the insurance companies, therefore making it.
Speaker 2: Easier for us. We'll see how it goes.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's move on to the next topic of discussion.
Speaker 1: I thought this was rather interesting. This happened yesterday on
Speaker 1: Veterans Day, I might add, Trump holds the first ever
Speaker 1: White House meeting with Syrian leader.
Speaker 2: Now this Syrian leader, just everybody is all up to
Speaker 2: speed here. This Syrian leader or Syrian president quote unquote,
Speaker 2: is also the former leader of Syrian al Qaeda. That
Speaker 2: is a major sticking point with this particular guy. Syria
Speaker 2: has been in a bit of a some turmoil here
Speaker 2: in the past few years.
Speaker 1: This guy is basically the warlord that took over and
Speaker 1: has tried to bring the Syrian nation back on under
Speaker 1: heel and try to get them to be an operational nation.
Speaker 1: For the most part, he hasn't been one hundred percent successful.
Speaker 1: He's had a pretty good go of it as far
Speaker 1: as that goes through. Let's just call it, for lack
Speaker 1: of better words, at sword point if you're picking up
Speaker 1: what I'm putting down.
Speaker 2: But hey, there it is.
Speaker 1: And Trump is actually speaking with international relations groups to
Speaker 1: get them listed or he anyway off of the terrorist blacklist,
Speaker 1: which is very interesting. All these people think that Israel
Speaker 1: is running Trump. Meanwhile, he just invited the leader of
Speaker 1: al Qaeda in Syria to the White House.
Speaker 2: I have a weird feeling that.
Speaker 1: Israel and net and Yahoo are not too thrilled about this.
Speaker 1: But let's watch this little news clip to talk more
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Let's listen in.
Speaker 11: President Trump welcome the president of Syria at the White
Speaker 11: House today and announced a new partnership with the country.
Speaker 11: Akhmed al Sharah led efforts to overthrow former Syrian dictator
Speaker 11: brasharl Assad last year. He is a former member of
Speaker 11: al Qaeda, but has since denounced the group. On Friday,
Speaker 11: the Trump administration removed his name from a list of
Speaker 11: global terrorists, and today it announced Syria would join a
Speaker 11: US led coalition to defeat ISIS. Unlike most of President
Speaker 11: Trump's meetings with foreign leaders, the press was not allowed
Speaker 11: inside the room to ask questions.
Speaker 3: This cell phone.
Speaker 11: Video from CBS suss Aaron Navarro was the only footage
Speaker 11: we have of all Chara leaving the White House. Here's
Speaker 11: what President Trump said about the meeting hours later.
Speaker 8: He's a very strong leader.
Speaker 12: He comes from a very tough place, and he's tough guy.
Speaker 4: I liked him.
Speaker 9: I get along with him.
Speaker 3: The president.
Speaker 12: The new president is Syria, and we'll do everything we
Speaker 12: had to make Seria successful because that's part of the
Speaker 12: Middle East.
Speaker 11: CBS News National security contributor Sam Vinnigrad joins us. Now,
Speaker 11: So Sam, what message does it send for President Trump
Speaker 11: to welcome the Syrian president to the White House And
Speaker 11: how much should we read into the fact that the
Speaker 11: meeting was not open to the press and that he
Speaker 11: was necessarily welcomed into the White House in the typical
Speaker 11: way that many foreign leaders are with cameras and the like.
Speaker 13: Well, lindsay, I think it's unfortunate the press was not
Speaker 13: allowed to ask Ahmet Alshada some tough questions about his
Speaker 13: record and his plans for Syria. I do think it's
Speaker 13: the right call that President Asharda has not given all
Speaker 13: the same accolades as other visiting officials. Many security analysts
Speaker 13: are hoping that President Ashara is committed to stabilizing Syria,
Speaker 13: to denouncing terrorism, to turning away from Russia in Iran,
Speaker 13: which had been partners of the al Asad regime for decades.
Speaker 13: But the proof is going to be in the putting.
Speaker 13: President Alshada is certainly saying all the right things when
Speaker 13: it comes to, for example, counter terrorism, cooperation with the
Speaker 13: United States and his focus on unifying Syria, but whether
Speaker 13: he's being pragmatic in the short term or is committed
Speaker 13: to pragmatism over his original ideology over the longer term,
Speaker 13: lindsay is an outstanding question.
Speaker 11: What can the US and Syria do for each other?
Speaker 11: What do both sides want from this relationship.
Speaker 13: Well, in the short term, the Syrian people desperately need
Speaker 13: support rebuilding their country, so assistance dollars are going to
Speaker 13: be desperately needed. There are some problems with that based
Speaker 13: upon some sanctions that still remain in place, but certainly
Speaker 13: assistants rebuilding the country. Support is necessary to try to
Speaker 13: unify the country and to bring various factions together. And
Speaker 13: at the same time, the United States would greatly benefit
Speaker 13: from cooperation from Syria in, for example, countering ISIS. That's
Speaker 13: why this announcement that Syria will now join the Countering
Speaker 13: ISIS coalition is so important. Over the long term, the
Speaker 13: United States is looking for Syria to become an ally
Speaker 13: in the region, to renounce violence against Israel, to colm
Speaker 13: relations with Lebanon, and to stop turning closer towards Russia
Speaker 13: in Iran and other countries that are hostile towards US interests.
Speaker 1: Okay, so a couple of little keynotes, and Tony, I
Speaker 1: would really love for you to weigh in on this
Speaker 1: one here, brother.
Speaker 2: Okay, So.
Speaker 1: The dude is confirmed at one point in time a
Speaker 1: member of al Qaeda. Okay, cool, he has since renounced
Speaker 1: the group. Okay, fine, This guy just in the past
Speaker 1: week was taken off of the lists of known terrorists,
Speaker 1: and now the United States government is teaming up with
Speaker 1: a former al Qaeda leader to battle against ISIS, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna team up with him to go against terrorist groups.
Speaker 1: Former al Qaeda guy. I feel like I've heard this
Speaker 1: one before. Correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, But I
Speaker 1: feel like I've heard of this whole enemy of my
Speaker 1: enemy as my friend thing and I also think it's
Speaker 1: very interesting that it is the same country, of all places,
Speaker 1: where Russia has their biggest air station and naval station
Speaker 1: that goes into the Mediterranean Sea. And as everything is
Speaker 1: going on with Ukraine and Russia right now, which we
Speaker 1: will get to here in a moment, I find it
Speaker 1: very interesting that Trump decided to make this strategic play
Speaker 1: with the quote unquote Syrian president right now. And like
Speaker 1: it was said, he didn't get any of the big uh,
Speaker 1: you know, fanfare and pomp and all the things with
Speaker 1: his visit to the White House.
Speaker 2: There's a reason for that. I agree.
Speaker 1: They're they're trying to keep it as low key and
Speaker 1: under wraps as possible that Trump is meeting with who
Speaker 1: a week ago was a known terrorist. So I find
Speaker 1: that all very very interesting, and we will be keeping
Speaker 1: our eyes on the Syrian US relations moving forward. Because
Speaker 1: my god, this sounds like a little revamp of the
Speaker 1: Moujahadeen and American forces to fight against the Soviet Union
Speaker 1: in these seventies and eighties. I'm not saying that as
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. In fact, I'm saying it really it rhymes.
Speaker 1: It rhymes a bit here, Sam, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's funny that you mentioned the Mouja Haadin.
Speaker 4: That's because that was the predecessor to the Taliban sash
Speaker 4: al Qaeda.
Speaker 3: But what happened to America not negotiating with terrorists?
Speaker 1: They just took him off the terrorist list before he
Speaker 1: came to America.
Speaker 4: Look, id, people can change, but once a terrorist story
Speaker 4: is a terrorists like, you can't wash that sin away.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of blood there.
Speaker 1: I find it interesting the guy that only I would
Speaker 1: even argue probably last year, was screaming death to America
Speaker 1: just got invited to the Oval Office.
Speaker 2: That's very crazy to me that that.
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe I'm just overreacting, I'm paranoid or whatever,
Speaker 4: but you can't How can you walk with somebody that
Speaker 4: actively said death not only to you, but your your
Speaker 4: nation and your culture.
Speaker 1: Now that being said, this is not the first time
Speaker 1: that a group that is considered terroristic in nature leaders
Speaker 1: were invited to the White House under the Obama administration.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, they had Taliban leaders invited to
Speaker 1: the Oval Office to speak with Old Barry.
Speaker 2: So it's been done before. But at the same time.
Speaker 3: You're talking about black Hussein Obama.
Speaker 2: That's the guy.
Speaker 1: But that being said, at the time, the Taliban was
Speaker 1: pretty much the only active arm of law within the
Speaker 1: nation of Afghanistan. I'm not exactly a fan of that.
Speaker 1: I don't like that that was a true statement that
Speaker 1: I just said. But the fact is, if we wanted
Speaker 1: to try to make an exist strategy happen, we had
Speaker 1: to work with the Taliban in order to go as
Speaker 1: peacefully and calmly as possible, since they're really and truly
Speaker 1: the only arm of the law in Afghanistan.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have the Afghan Army. That's a laughable organization
Speaker 1: to say the least. Pretty much you had to go
Speaker 1: through them, especially whenever they're the ones that are growing
Speaker 1: the opium that would later the poppy that would later
Speaker 1: be turned into the opium and the opiates and all
Speaker 1: these things. And for a couple of years there it
Speaker 1: was like every we talked about this on the cult
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when we're talking about the
Speaker 1: Golden Triangle of the Vietnam War era and now the
Speaker 1: Golden Cresset when it came to the post nine to
Speaker 1: eleven conflicts. In the last decade and a half, the
Speaker 1: Taliban has gone back and forth over whether they are
Speaker 1: okay with or against the growing of poppy for the
Speaker 1: uses of making heroin and opiates. One guy would take
Speaker 1: over and say, no, that is against Sharia law. It
Speaker 1: goes against Halla, and we don't want that. So they
Speaker 1: would burn all the poppy fields and they would find
Speaker 1: other ways to.
Speaker 2: Earn their daily bread.
Speaker 1: New guy would come over and take over from him
Speaker 1: and say, all right, we're all broke. Now we need
Speaker 1: to make money, and the poppy fields are money making machines,
Speaker 1: so we're back into the poppy trade. Then a two
Speaker 1: or three years later, some new guy would take over
Speaker 1: and it was just as back and forth, back and forth,
Speaker 1: back and forth. So at that time, Barack Obama inviting
Speaker 1: the Taliban to the White House, I'm not cool with it,
Speaker 1: but I could at least understand where he was coming
Speaker 1: from on that regard. Now cut too literally, we're not
Speaker 1: even talking like, oh, when he was in his young
Speaker 1: twenties or you know, a young teenager, he was associated
Speaker 1: with a criminal element. This dude, as he was taking
Speaker 1: charge of Syria during their civil war, was representing Syria
Speaker 1: and al Qaeda, and now he is becoming a asset
Speaker 1: to the United States to fight isis. I find this
Speaker 1: to be very interesting. Couple that with all of what's
Speaker 1: going on with Russia in the Ukraine conflict right now
Speaker 1: and how Russia has those assets in the nation of Syria.
Speaker 2: I find that to be very interesting.
Speaker 1: Like I said, everybody, we're going to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on this as time moves forward. Now, let's talk about
Speaker 1: this House Oversite Committee.
Speaker 2: And government reform.
Speaker 1: All right, this is from the Democrats Oversitedemocrats dot House
Speaker 1: dot gov. House Oversite Committee releases Jeffrey Epstein email correspondence
Speaker 1: raising questions about White House cover up of Epstein files. Okay,
Speaker 1: now here's this is a very interesting topic because depending
Speaker 1: on which new source you're looking into, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: two very different takes on the new emails that were
Speaker 1: released quote unquote. Now, the Democrats are saying that this
Speaker 1: shows that Trump was not only complicit in Epstein's actions
Speaker 1: and all of what he was doing, but that he
Speaker 1: went out of his.
Speaker 2: Way to cover it up.
Speaker 1: The Republicans are saying, these emails, if anything, show that
Speaker 1: Trump had no wrongdoings in any regard. Y'all be the
Speaker 1: judge on that. As we get into this, let's read
Speaker 1: this was actually released No. Number twelve of twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Interesting Yes, today, this tranch of correspondence raises questions about
Speaker 1: Trump and Epstein's relationship, Trump's knowledge on Epstein's crimes, and
Speaker 1: relationship to victims. This is from Washington d C. Of course, Today,
Speaker 1: Oversight Democrats and ranking member Robert Garcia released never before
Speaker 1: seen emails from the latest production from Jeffrey Epstein's estate,
Speaker 1: striking a blow against the White House's Epstein cover up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Epstein is still having the last laugh from the gravel
Speaker 1: on this one. In private correspondence with Giselain Maxwell, Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein wrote in twenty eleven that Donald Trump quote spent
Speaker 1: hours at my house end quote with a victim of
Speaker 1: sex trafficking, referring to Trump as quote dog that hasn't barked.
Speaker 2: End quote.
Speaker 1: In a separate email with author Michael Wolfe in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: Epstein stated explicitly that Donald Trump quote you about the girls,
Speaker 1: as he asked Giselaine to stop end quote. In another
Speaker 1: email with wolf in twenty fifteen, Epstein and wolf discussed
Speaker 1: it they can quote craft an answer end quote for
Speaker 1: Trump's upcoming CNN interview, with Wolf characterizing Epstein's leverage over
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, saying if he says he hasn't been on
Speaker 1: the plane or to the house, then that gives you
Speaker 1: a valuable pr and political currency. The Epstein estate released
Speaker 1: a total of twenty three thousand documents that the Oversight
Speaker 1: Committee is currently reviewing.
Speaker 2: This is a direct quote. Again.
Speaker 1: The more Donald Trump tries to cover up the Epstein files,
Speaker 1: the more we uncover. These latest emails and correspondences raise
Speaker 1: glaring questions about what else the White House is hiding
Speaker 1: and the nature of the relationship between Epstein and the President.
Speaker 1: That was from Robert Garcia. The Department of Justice must
Speaker 1: fully release the Epstein files to the public immediately. The
Speaker 1: Oversight Committee will continue pushing four answers and will not
Speaker 1: stop until we get justice for the victim. The three
Speaker 1: emails from the proof of production can be found below.
Speaker 1: So let's read this here. These are emails. We're gonna
Speaker 1: They're not long, it's not like these are paragraphs and paragraphs,
Speaker 1: but we are gonna read this. This is from Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein to Gmax.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I want you to realize that the dog that hasn'tbarked
Speaker 1: yet is Trump dot dot dot redacted spent hours at
Speaker 1: my house with him. He has never once been mentioned
Speaker 1: police chief, et cetera. I'm seventy five percent there.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The redacted name of the victim as of this moment
Speaker 1: is believed to be Virginia Guffrey. Now there's reasons for
Speaker 1: why that Republicans might have redacted that immediately.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of open to
Speaker 1: interpretation when it comes to this, but let's continue. It
Speaker 1: says the information contained in this communication is confidential, may
Speaker 1: be attorney client privileged, may constitute in side information. It
Speaker 1: is intended only for the use of the address.
Speaker 2: He is the.
Speaker 1: Property of Jeffrey Epstein on author's use. Okay, it's the
Speaker 1: copyright stuff, all right. Now, let's go to the next email.
Speaker 1: It says, I want you to realize that, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the same actually the same email, but it's.
Speaker 2: The redaction. Isn't as clear on this one moving forward.
Speaker 1: Email number two is direct correspondence between Jeffrey Epstein and
Speaker 1: Michael Wolfe redacted victim's name, mar Lago redacted name. Trump
Speaker 1: said he asked me to resign, never a member ever.
Speaker 1: Of course he knew about the girls as he asked
Speaker 1: his lane.
Speaker 2: To stop direct quote direct quote.
Speaker 1: So what we are saying here is that Trump Year's bag,
Speaker 1: which we already knew about this. Trump has been very
Speaker 1: open with the fact that he and Jeffrey Epstein had
Speaker 1: a falling out years and years back. There's some stipulations
Speaker 1: to that, some chicanery, if you will. Some will say
Speaker 1: it's because Trump just never really appreciated him as a
Speaker 1: business partner or anything like that. He tried to There's
Speaker 1: another quote or another storyline, I guess you could say,
Speaker 1: to say that Epstein tried to hire some of his younger,
Speaker 1: not underage, younger, but still younger employees from mar A Lago.
Speaker 1: He was trying to basically poach them, and Trump wasn't
Speaker 1: a fan of that and knew what he was up to,
Speaker 1: so he had a.
Speaker 2: Falling out with him.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of back and forth on this, but
Speaker 1: again continuing here, Email number three, direct correspondence between Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epstein and Michael Wolfe. I think you should let him
Speaker 1: hang himself. That's from Michael wolf to Jeffrey Epstein. If
Speaker 1: he says he hasn't been on the plane or to
Speaker 1: the house, that gives you a valuable pr and political currency.
Speaker 1: You can hang him in a way that potentially generates
Speaker 1: a positive benefit for you, or if it really looks
Speaker 1: like he could win, you could save him generating a debt.
Speaker 1: Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten a raw
Speaker 1: deal and is a victim of political court correctness, which
Speaker 1: is to be outlawed in a Trump regime.
Speaker 2: Take what you want with that, Take all this how
Speaker 2: you want it.
Speaker 1: But essentially, and this is another one, as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, this is a direct correspondence tween. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that continues down here. The correspondence reads, I
Speaker 1: hear CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his
Speaker 1: relationship with you, either on air or in a scrum afterwards.
Speaker 1: If we're able to craft an answer for him, what
Speaker 1: do you think it should be?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: That was the first one, Jeffrey Epstein to Jeffrey Epstein
Speaker 1: from Michael Wolf talking about the CNN. The next one
Speaker 1: was to Michael from Jeffrey says, if we're able to
Speaker 1: craft an answer for him, what do you think it
Speaker 1: should be? This one is too Jeffrey from Michael, and
Speaker 1: then that's when it's that I think we should let
Speaker 1: him hang himself in that whole debacle. Now the Democrats
Speaker 1: are acting like this is some massive lynchpin that is
Speaker 1: going to be the thing that ruins Trump. Meanwhile, the
Speaker 1: Republicans are acting like, well, you heard him, nothing about
Speaker 1: him ever having any affiliation with these young girls. If anything,
Speaker 1: he was complicit in it, but he didn't partake of any.
Speaker 2: Of these things. And this is just Jacob speaking on
Speaker 2: behalf of Jacob.
Speaker 1: I think that if somebody, not just Trump, anybody is
Speaker 1: complicit in these types of crimes, you know what's going on,
Speaker 1: you're doing nothing to ensure that this person gets justice.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, in my opinion, you are at least partially guilty.
Speaker 1: But on this one, it's all or nothing. Either the
Speaker 1: basketball goes in the hooper it doesn't, but hey, these emails,
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. A lot of Republicans are
Speaker 1: also saying these emails are a Democrat hoax.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let's read in on this one here talking on behalf
Speaker 1: of the Democrats. This is a CNN article, So again
Speaker 1: take that how you want it. The federal government shut
Speaker 1: down provided President Trump a week's long reprieve from major
Speaker 1: revelations about his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. But as Congress
Speaker 1: looks to reopen the government this week, it's clear Trump's
Speaker 1: Epstein problem hasn't gone away. The big news Wednesday morning
Speaker 1: was that House Oversight Committee Democrats at least three emails
Speaker 1: obtained from Epstein's estate that mentioned Trump. Those emails came
Speaker 1: amid another huge release from the GOP led committee on
Speaker 1: Epstein's documents that CNN is still reviewing. In one twenty
Speaker 1: eleven email, he called Trump the dog that hasn'tmbarked, And
Speaker 1: we already read that email, let's see. And in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: Epstein writes to an author, Michael Wolf, about how Trump
Speaker 1: might handle questions about his past relationship with Epstein. Again,
Speaker 1: we already read the emails. The emails are re night
Speaker 1: questions about what Trump knew and when. There have remained
Speaker 1: huge unanswered questions about what Trump knew and when about Epstein's.
Speaker 2: Proclivities proclivities rather.
Speaker 1: That's especially given Trump's explanations have often proved evasive or false.
Speaker 1: The White House responded to the initial three emails mentioning
Speaker 1: Trump by arguing Democrats had selectively leaked the emails to
Speaker 1: create a fake narrative to smear President Trump.
Speaker 2: And in one regard, I could understand that.
Speaker 1: Need we forget how the entire first term that Trump
Speaker 1: was in office, the Democrats did everything they could to
Speaker 1: smear his name, Russia, gay, cofefe, all these things.
Speaker 2: For the entire four years. They tried impeaching him for nothing.
Speaker 1: For nothing, they were trying to get the President of
Speaker 1: the United States to have a mug shot.
Speaker 2: We all remember that. So okay, I could understand that.
Speaker 1: But that was also before we really knew that there
Speaker 1: was any kind of connection whatsoever between Trump and Epstein. Also,
Speaker 1: it's worth mentioning, but these emails certainly deepen the intrigue
Speaker 1: about what Trump knew. To recap what we already knew,
Speaker 1: Trump in two thousand and two referred to how Epstein
Speaker 1: liked women quote on the younger side.
Speaker 2: We've all seen that clip.
Speaker 1: A Florida businessman said in twenty nineteen interview that he
Speaker 1: raised concerns with Trump about Epstein going after younger girls
Speaker 1: at a nineteen ninety two Calendar Girl event, which we
Speaker 1: have seen that video. As a matter of fact, Trump
Speaker 1: invited Epstein to some model party at his penthouse suite.
Speaker 1: Come to find out, Epstein and Trump were the only
Speaker 1: attendees of this party other than very young model types. Okay,
Speaker 1: but to my knowledge, none of those girls were under
Speaker 1: the age of eighteen. I'm not saying that's good. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that's better than if they were fourteen and sixteen.
Speaker 1: I think we can all agree with that. But anyway,
Speaker 1: continue going on it, says. Trump's advisor Roger Stone in
Speaker 1: a twenty sixteen book, quoted Trump talking about how Epstein's
Speaker 1: swimming pool was full of beautiful young girls and joking
Speaker 1: that it was nice of Epstein to let the neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Kids use his pool.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it was already some mention of these things,
Speaker 1: and we all remember hearing about these. The president and
Speaker 1: his aides have also repeated repeatedly said Trump distanced himself
Speaker 1: from Epstein because Epstein was a creep quote, but without
Speaker 1: elaborating on why precisely Trump viewed him as such. Beyond that,
Speaker 1: Trump this summer acknowledged being aware of Maxwell recruiting employees,
Speaker 1: including Guphrey, at at mar Lago, but he seemed to
Speaker 1: be quite reluctant to go into detail. The question from
Speaker 1: there was whether Trump had an inkling about what Guphrey
Speaker 1: had been quote unquote recruited for. And again rip two
Speaker 1: Virginia Guffrey, who they are still saying committed suicide. That
Speaker 1: is mind blowing to me, but sure that's the official narrative.
Speaker 1: I suppose Trump said he didn't know really why quote
Speaker 1: unquote Maxwell was recruiting people. Maxwell has denied recruiting people,
Speaker 1: but Guphrey was a minor to the extent Trump was
Speaker 1: aware of the particulars of the situation and was aware
Speaker 1: of Epstein's taste for younger females. That would seem to
Speaker 1: raise red flags. I would agree it makes us ask
Speaker 1: if he was aware of Jeffrey Epstein and Giselaine Maxwell's
Speaker 1: criminal actions. Guphrey's two brothers and her sister in law
Speaker 1: said in a statement this summer. In twenty nineteen, Epstein
Speaker 1: email released by the committee says Trump, of course he
Speaker 1: knew about the girls.
Speaker 2: As he asked Geslaine to stop.
Speaker 1: That doesn't prove Trump knew what Maxwell and Epstein were
Speaker 1: recruiting the girls for, but it suggests that Trump was
Speaker 1: involved in telling Maxwell to knock it off and was
Speaker 1: seemingly familiar with the details of the situation.
Speaker 2: I could see where they're coming from on that.
Speaker 1: In twenty eleven, I've seen emails that suggest Guffrey spent
Speaker 1: hours at his house with Trump. Also adds to the
Speaker 1: relevance of the relevant facts here. When Trump was acknowledging
Speaker 1: his awareness of Maxwell's recruiting at Mar A Lago, he
Speaker 1: initially said he didn't know if it was Gufphrey who
Speaker 1: had been recruited, but then he quickly said that.
Speaker 2: It was indeed her.
Speaker 1: If Trump actually spent time with Guffrey, as Epstein's emails
Speaker 1: seemed to say, it would not only raise questions about why,
Speaker 1: it would also make Trump's handling of the situation appear
Speaker 1: even more bizarre. And it's clear from Guphrey's own memoir
Speaker 1: that they knew each other and had had conversations about
Speaker 1: her working for his friend. Quote here, Trump could have
Speaker 1: had been Trump couldn't have been friendlier, telling me it
Speaker 1: was fantastic that I was there. Guphrey writes about the
Speaker 1: time that her father took her to meet Trump in
Speaker 1: his office. She goes on to recount that Trump asked
Speaker 1: her if she liked children, and explained that he had
Speaker 1: friends in the house next to the resort who needed
Speaker 1: babysitting their kids. So Trump seemed to be a gentleman
Speaker 1: about everything. The email's undercut Maxwell's attempt to distance Trump
Speaker 1: from Epstein. The Trump Justice Department decided to interview Maxwell,
Speaker 1: a convicted sex offender, this summer while her appeals were ongoing.
Speaker 1: It did so despite her established credibility problems and motivations to.
Speaker 2: Say what the administration wanted.
Speaker 1: But I also think it's interesting to note they're the
Speaker 1: only ones that actually decided to question her. Four years
Speaker 1: under the previous administration, no one ever questioned just lame.
Speaker 1: No one ever got her on the little table and
Speaker 1: had a little tape recorder in the camera in the
Speaker 1: room and had a conversation, just tell me everything, you know.
Speaker 2: No one had done this. I find that also very interesting.
Speaker 1: Trump at the time hadn't ruled out the possibility of
Speaker 1: pardoning Maxwell.
Speaker 2: We've all heard him say that, like he totally could.
Speaker 1: He's not saying he will, He's saying it's within his
Speaker 1: power to do so, which also is not something that,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, you should be saying on the mic
Speaker 1: on camera to the world that conversation shouldn't even be
Speaker 1: happening in your own head.
Speaker 2: But okay, Trump, I'm sorry, let's see here.
Speaker 1: And around that time, we also learned Maxwell had been
Speaker 1: moved to a lower security prison camp for which she
Speaker 1: didn't appear eligible as a sex offender. The administration still
Speaker 1: hasn't explained how this happened. Months later, and sure enough,
Speaker 1: Maxwell said things that were helpful to the president. She
Speaker 1: basically said that she had no knowledge of any of
Speaker 1: Trump's wrongdoings and downplayed his relationship with Epstein. But the
Speaker 1: new emails call her claims into question a little bit,
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Speaking of Trump and Epstein's relationship,
Speaker 1: Maxwell said in her testimony the transcript, which was released
Speaker 1: in August, direct quote, I don't think they were close
Speaker 1: friends or I certainly never witnessed the President of in
Speaker 1: any of I don't recall ever seeing him in the house,
Speaker 1: for instance.
Speaker 2: Okay, But the.
Speaker 1: Newly released emails suggests Maxwell was aware of Trump being
Speaker 1: at Epstein's house at least as of twenty eleven. After Epstein,
Speaker 1: in the email, referenced someone spending hours at my house
Speaker 1: quote unquote with Trump, Maxwell responds, I have been thinking
Speaker 1: about that. Maxwell's attorney didn't immediately respond to a request
Speaker 1: for comment on Wednesday. This is not the first Maxwell
Speaker 1: claim from that interview that has been called into question
Speaker 1: very much. So anyway, we're not going to read the
Speaker 1: entire article. I think it's worth mentioning that these three
Speaker 1: emails have been released. This does not make Trump uncredible.
Speaker 1: It does make things look way worse for him as
Speaker 1: far as this is concerned. If you had prior knowledge
Speaker 1: of what was going on with Jeff and you did
Speaker 1: nothing to stop it, Oh yeah, you told them to
Speaker 1: knock it off.
Speaker 2: Bro, that's not enough.
Speaker 1: These are children and they need help, and you, being
Speaker 1: a rich you know, billion, had the means of helping them,
Speaker 1: or at least getting it in front of somebody who
Speaker 1: was appropriately designated and authorized to take it to a
Speaker 1: higher level, and you still didn't. That being said, there
Speaker 1: is still questions about his entire Department of Justice, and
Speaker 1: they're mishandling of this situation. He ran and got elected
Speaker 1: talking not primarily. It wasn't like he was elected just
Speaker 1: because of the Epstein files, but he was elected, and
Speaker 1: the majority, the vast majority, I mean the I would
Speaker 1: say almost all of his constituents put him in office
Speaker 1: because we knew that he was going to release the files.
Speaker 1: The way that he has handled this, the way that
Speaker 1: his Department of Justice has handled this, the way that
Speaker 1: the FBI have handled this, has called into question everything
Speaker 1: that his voters put him in that office for because
Speaker 1: of it. It's like it's a snowball effect. If it
Speaker 1: starts here and your side stepping in, Now, what else
Speaker 1: are you going to sidestep? And for your own purposes?
Speaker 1: Now cut to cash. Bettel went on and on and on.
Speaker 1: Pam Bondi went on and on and on. There's tens
Speaker 1: of thousands of hours, there's all this evidence, there's these lists.
Speaker 1: We gotta go through it all and then out of
Speaker 1: nowhere to sidestep it. Keep in mind, there was accusations
Speaker 1: that were made about some CIA agents that were put
Speaker 1: to task to go through the entire Epstein files and
Speaker 1: redact everything that had Trump's name on it, and it
Speaker 1: seemed to be a lot more than these three emails
Speaker 1: with a redacted name. Allegedly, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: verified this claim is, but allegedly it took them three
Speaker 1: months to go through everything and redact his name because
Speaker 1: it was on there so much.
Speaker 2: I don't know to what level.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was for the business side
Speaker 1: of things, because again, Jeffrey Epstein was a money laundering
Speaker 1: king of the world, so it's very possible that Trump
Speaker 1: was utilizing him to hide some money, and that's where
Speaker 1: all the references are for.
Speaker 2: Could be, could be, it could also.
Speaker 1: Be because of him using his plane from time to time,
Speaker 1: But we also cannot negate the possibility that it might
Speaker 1: have also been Trump going to that island. And until
Speaker 1: we get some sort of a confirmation that that is
Speaker 1: not what that was for, emails like this coming out
Speaker 1: are only going to fuel the fire of people that
Speaker 1: are making those types of claims. It would be oh
Speaker 1: so easy for Trump's Justice Department and his CIA, and
Speaker 1: his whole FBI rather and his whole administration to shut
Speaker 1: this down now and just release things and tell everybody
Speaker 1: the entire truth. The fact that they're not is only
Speaker 1: leading more credence to the opposition. Sam, I see her hand,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just gonna lead the lady the Virginia
Speaker 4: U chick.
Speaker 2: I can't go Virginia Guffrey.
Speaker 4: I was looking in at her. All that says is
Speaker 4: she committed suicide LIKEE. But did they say she hung
Speaker 4: herself or was she then the chick that lit herself
Speaker 4: on fire.
Speaker 1: No, she allegedly jumped in front of a bus days
Speaker 1: after being released from the hospital.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes no sense, and that it doesn't that's
Speaker 4: even coming from somebody who has had the ideation and everything. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I've been run over before by a vehicle. I would
Speaker 4: that is not a way most people would think of
Speaker 4: killing themselves, and especially you have a woman. A woman
Speaker 4: nine time is more likely to attempt it. But they're
Speaker 4: gonna use nine times ten. They're gonna either use peels
Speaker 4: so that they could look pretty in the casket or
Speaker 4: they're gonna be in a tub and slit their wrists
Speaker 4: nine times out of ten.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense the narrative of how she went
Speaker 1: and then call it and still to this day, Fox, CNN,
Speaker 1: every every major news outlet is ruling it a suicide
Speaker 1: when that makes no sense when looking at it and
Speaker 1: using a little I'm talking the slightest crumb of critical thinking.
Speaker 1: So that is still the going narrative towards her, even
Speaker 1: though her memoirs are still published. So yeah, it's a mess.
Speaker 1: It's a mess, and the Trump administration and his Department
Speaker 1: of Justice are doing nothing to clean up this mess,
Speaker 1: not even a little bit.
Speaker 4: The song by a Vicci that got him killed was,
Speaker 4: wasn't it very alluding that it was epstinct for a
Speaker 4: better Day where they banded the wood, put pedophile on
Speaker 4: the guy and hung him.
Speaker 1: In The Avici song in question is it wasn't the
Speaker 1: music itself.
Speaker 2: It wasn't the lyrics. It was the music video behind it.
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, we played it on
Speaker 1: the Cult Conspiracy God probably.
Speaker 3: Twenty four years ago.
Speaker 4: It was one of they all's fush episodes of you
Speaker 4: and Jacob together, and that's actually how I fush out
Speaker 4: of Avici.
Speaker 2: I am Jacob dude, I know ja man, I know
Speaker 2: you man.
Speaker 1: But honestly, yeah, it's I feel like that was only
Speaker 1: a year ago, but due time flies, that was four
Speaker 1: years ago. Good got almighty. But yeah, so it wasn't
Speaker 1: the lyrics itself. It was the content of the music video.
Speaker 1: It never made it seem like it was necessarily epstein.
Speaker 1: It was more to bring awareness to child trafficking just
Speaker 1: in general, in totality, and it uh yeah, he ended
Speaker 1: up paying the price in his own blood for that. Anyway,
Speaker 1: moving off of the Epstein conversation, let's go into this
Speaker 1: one now. As I was just in Philadelphia, as I
Speaker 1: literally passed by the US Mint. And if anybody doesn't
Speaker 1: know what the Mint does. They make money. They make
Speaker 1: the coins, they make the dollar bills. And if you
Speaker 1: ever look at a coin or a dollar bill and
Speaker 1: it has a small P on it that stands for Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: typically you'll see a D, a P and in certain
Speaker 1: case s and if it's a very old coin, you'll
Speaker 1: find an O for New Orleans, but that would be Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, and Dell, Denver, excuse me. And these are
Speaker 1: the places where the US money is actually printed and
Speaker 1: stamped and made. But it is also worth mentioning. And
Speaker 1: I personally feel attacked on this one because I collected
Speaker 1: pennies growing up, Like I have books that are like
Speaker 1: listed each year and from each mint that these pennies
Speaker 1: were made. I love it, I absolutely do, and I
Speaker 1: think some of my more valuable ones are the ones
Speaker 1: from nineteen forty three. That year pennies were actually stamped
Speaker 1: and steel, not copper, because all the copper.
Speaker 2: Was going towards the war effort. I think either that's
Speaker 2: my most valuable one or one.
Speaker 1: Of the Indian heads from the late eighteen hundreds. I'd
Speaker 1: have to go back and look with the books and everything.
Speaker 1: But the US Mint in Philadelphia where I just was,
Speaker 1: presses its final penny as the ones sent coin gets canceled. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. America is about to do away with a
Speaker 1: penny as a whole. Back in seventeen ninety three, a
Speaker 1: penny could get you a biscuit, a candle, or piece
Speaker 1: of candy.
Speaker 2: These days many sit in drawers.
Speaker 1: Or glass jars and are basically cast aside or collected
Speaker 1: as lucky keepsakes.
Speaker 2: But their luck is about to run out.
Speaker 1: The US Mint in Philadelphia is set to strike its
Speaker 1: last circulating penny on Wednesday, as the President has canceled
Speaker 1: the one cent coin as the cost of making them
Speaker 1: became more than their value. And that's a very good point.
Speaker 1: They swapped from copper to zinc in shoot, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to remember that was back in the sixties. At some
Speaker 1: point in time, they swapped from copper to zinc. And
Speaker 1: now the price of all of that has gotten so
Speaker 1: expensive that it's literally not worth the amount of materials
Speaker 1: and time and machinery to stamp out a penny because
Speaker 1: it costs I think two times the mount per pennies,
Speaker 1: so you're actually losing money while making money.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: President Trump has ordered its demise as costs climb to
Speaker 1: nearly four cents per penny.
Speaker 2: God said two.
Speaker 1: It's four, and the one cent valuation becomes somewhat obsolete.
Speaker 1: The US mint has been making pennies in Philadelphia, the
Speaker 1: nation's birthplace, since seventeen ninety three, a year after Congress
Speaker 1: passed the Coinage Act.
Speaker 2: Today there are billions of.
Speaker 1: Them in circulation, but they are rarely essential for financial
Speaker 1: transactions in the modern economy or the digital age. For
Speaker 1: as long as the United States has minted pennies, which
Speaker 1: literally cost us more than two cents, Trump wrote in
Speaker 1: an online post on February or in February, as costs
Speaker 1: continued to.
Speaker 2: Climb, this is so wasteful.
Speaker 1: Still, many have a nostalgia for them, seeing them as
Speaker 1: lucky or fun to collect. I know, I do, and
Speaker 1: some retailers have voice concerns in recent weeks as supplies
Speaker 1: ran low and the last production neared. They said the
Speaker 1: phase out was abrupt and came with no guidance from
Speaker 1: the federal government on how to handle customer transactions. Some
Speaker 1: rounded prices down to avoid short changing people ha punintended.
Speaker 1: Others pleaded with customers to bring exact change, and the
Speaker 1: more creative among them gave out prizes such as a
Speaker 1: free drink in exchange for a pile of pennies. We
Speaker 1: have been advocating the abolition of the penny for thirty years,
Speaker 1: but this is not the way we wanted it to go.
Speaker 2: Jeff Leired of the National Association of Convenience Stores.
Speaker 1: Said last month, I had no idea there was a
Speaker 1: National Association of Convenience Stores, but there you go. So anyway,
Speaker 1: continuing on here, let's jump down it says the US
Speaker 1: Treasury Secretary, Scott Pissent and Treasurer Brandon Beach were expected
Speaker 1: to be in Philadelphia on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Afternoon for the final production run.
Speaker 1: The Treasury Department expects to save fifty six million dollars
Speaker 1: per year on materials by ceasing to make them, but
Speaker 1: they still have a better production cost to value ratio
Speaker 1: than the nickel, which costs nearly fourteen cents to make.
Speaker 1: The diminutive dime by comparison, costs less than six cents
Speaker 1: to produce, and the quarter nearly fifteen cents.
Speaker 2: Very interesting.
Speaker 1: So for anybody out there that does like a penny
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they are about to go by the
Speaker 1: wayside and they're about to be antiqued even harder. On
Speaker 1: the other side of that, my collection is about to
Speaker 1: skyrocket in value, which that kind of makes me happy
Speaker 1: but also sad at the same time.
Speaker 2: It's kind of a bittersweet.
Speaker 1: Anyway, continue on here, let's get into some foreign conversations.
Speaker 1: Ukraine pulls back in southeast village and Russia says Pokrovsk encircled.
Speaker 2: Let's listen in from Reuters.
Speaker 6: Police and humanitarians evacuated residents from the frontline town of
Speaker 6: Juleepole and nearby villages in Ukraine's southeastern Zaparisia region on Tuesday.
Speaker 6: Ukraine's top commanders said Russian forces were exploiting bad weather
Speaker 6: conditions to infiltrate further into the region. Elderly and immobile
Speaker 6: civilians left their homes with threads from attack drones during
Speaker 6: the operation.
Speaker 3: It's scary, we're being bombed today.
Speaker 13: In the morning, I went outside and heard a drone
Speaker 13: fly by I stood there and heard how it boomed
Speaker 13: and banged.
Speaker 6: Ukraine's military said on Wednesday and had pulled back troops
Speaker 6: from nearest settlement on the southeastern front, but that it
Speaker 6: has stopped Russian advances in the area. This video, released
Speaker 6: on social media by Russian war bloggers on Tuesday and
Speaker 6: verified by Reuters, showed what they said were Russian forces
Speaker 6: entering the Ukrainian city of Pakrofsk, dubbed the Gateway to
Speaker 6: Denetsk by Russian media. In dense fog and in war
Speaker 6: torn vehicles, Russian soldiers rolled into the city on motorbikes
Speaker 6: and even on roofs of battered cars and vans. Moscow
Speaker 6: said it provides a platform to drive north towards the
Speaker 6: two biggest remaining Ukrainian controlled cities in the region, Kramataorsk
Speaker 6: and Sloviyansk. Russia has been using a pincer movement for
Speaker 6: more than a year to attempt to encircle Pikrovsk and
Speaker 6: threaten supply lines. Rather than the deadly frontal assaults. Ukrainian
Speaker 6: President Vladimirzelenski described the situation in Pekrofsk as difficult and
Speaker 6: that assaults were also increasing in Zaparisia. Ukraine's military set
Speaker 6: about three hundred Russian soldiers were now inside Pekrofsk, and
Speaker 6: Moscow had intensified efforts to get more troops in Over
Speaker 6: the past few days. It said Ukrainian forces were battling
Speaker 6: Russian groups in the city. Both sides have given different
Speaker 6: accounts of the battle, with routers unable to independently verify
Speaker 6: battle reports from either side. Russia's military says it now
Speaker 6: controls more than nineteen percent of Ukraine. Ukrainian maps tracking
Speaker 6: frontline changes show Russian control at nineteen point one percent
Speaker 6: of Ukraine, up from eighteen percent nearly three years ago.
Speaker 1: All right, now, let's get into this Al Jazeera article
Speaker 1: talking about this the Russia Ukraine. The list of key
Speaker 1: events as we are ending the one three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty sixth day of what was supposed to be a
Speaker 1: fourteen day military operation worth noting. All right, let's see
Speaker 1: the fighting. Fighting continues in and around the Ukrainian city
Speaker 1: of Pekroufsk in the Eastern Dunesk region, with Kievan Moscow
Speaker 1: providing conflicting accounts of the situation.
Speaker 2: In the nearby town of mir no Rad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, if I mispronounced these names, I speak
Speaker 1: American English. The new Ukrainian military claims its forces were
Speaker 1: holding their positions in the city, saying that the defense
Speaker 1: of pscruffs pakrofts go okay amalgaation continues, but army spokesperson
Speaker 1: Andrey Kovelev acknowledged the provision of logistics to the town
Speaker 1: was complicated. The statement came after Russian Ministry Defense said
Speaker 1: its force were pressing in advance on the city and
Speaker 1: we're making gains in two of the town's districts. The
Speaker 1: Ukrainian Air Force also denied Russian claims of encircling the city,
Speaker 1: saying that food ammunition supplies to Ukrainian soldiers there are
Speaker 1: being replenished in a timely manner. The most intense fighting
Speaker 1: in Pokrovsk is currently taking place in the industrial zone,
Speaker 1: it said. Russian attacks on Ukraine's Dunesk and Dntpropestrovsk regions
Speaker 1: meanwhile killed at least one person and wounded two others
Speaker 1: on Monday, according to Ukrainiava Pravda.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's their news outlet.
Speaker 1: An explosion from an unidentified ammunition in a hospital. War
Speaker 1: in Ukraine's Zaparijia region injured a man on Monday, police
Speaker 1: they were reported without providing further details. The Russian Defense
Speaker 1: Ministry also claimed advances in Zaparijia region, saying its forces
Speaker 1: that pushed Ukrainian troops out of the villages of Soladika
Speaker 1: and Novay. The ministry said Russian forces also seize the
Speaker 1: village of jesus Had Novika in the Donasku region then Russia.
Speaker 1: A man was seriously wounded in a Ukrainian drone attack
Speaker 1: in the village of Beliyanka in the Belgarod region.
Speaker 2: Has died in a hospital medic set.
Speaker 1: Ukrainian forces claimed an attack on pumping stations in the
Speaker 1: Havardiski oil depot in the Russian occupied Crimean Peninsula. Russian
Speaker 1: forces announced destroying four Ukrainian drone boats near its Black
Speaker 1: Sea port of Tuaps. The port head suspended fuel exports
Speaker 1: after a November two Ukrainian attack on its infrastructure.
Speaker 2: So there's the updates for the Russia Ukraine situation. Again.
Speaker 2: I've told you all, we're gonna keep our eyes.
Speaker 1: On it, and especially now that Trump is making really
Speaker 1: good buddies with the quote unquote Syrian president now.
Speaker 2: To used those quotes very very liberally here.
Speaker 1: I also think that that might tie in because if
Speaker 1: I could be so wrong here, and there may be
Speaker 1: a zero percent chance of this, but I could envision
Speaker 1: a scenario where we get tight with the Syrian warlord,
Speaker 1: I mean president right, and use that leverage to encircle
Speaker 1: not just US, but a foreign actor who might be
Speaker 1: a little more aligned with Ukraine, especially now that Russian
Speaker 1: air defenses quote unquote have continued to invade.
Speaker 2: NATO air spaces.
Speaker 1: Not in one country, not in three, there's like eight
Speaker 1: countries right now that Russian air assets have invaded their
Speaker 1: sovereign airspace. So if a couple of these European powers
Speaker 1: got together decided to encircle Russia's you know, Syrian ports
Speaker 1: and blockade them in the med Mediterranean Sea and use
Speaker 1: that as leverage to force Russia to come to the
Speaker 1: negotiation table.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, I could be so wrong, but
Speaker 1: I see that as a really likely possibility. If Trump
Speaker 1: is getting more aligned with the Syrian guy in charge
Speaker 1: right now, we can't sidestep that as a zero percent
Speaker 1: chance that that happens.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Again, I told you all, we're gonna keep our eyes
Speaker 1: on it, and we are going to especially with this
Speaker 1: new information. But let's continue on to the next conversation.
Speaker 1: Pakistan and India. We all know that they just had
Speaker 1: a big border dispute. There were some shots fired on both,
Speaker 1: there were some skirmishes that took place, but it seemed
Speaker 1: like cooler heads it kind of prevailed and they had
Speaker 1: had a little ceasefire. Tensions were still high, but it
Speaker 1: seemed like things were going to just kind of fizzle out.
Speaker 1: Everybody was gonna be cool here, Everybody's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: And now we have more issues because Pakistan blames Indian
Speaker 1: proxies in a deadly Islamabad bomb that blasted and killed
Speaker 1: at least twelve people. Keep in mind New Delhi just
Speaker 1: had a suicide bomber attack that killed people as well,
Speaker 1: and they are both blaming each other for this. So
Speaker 1: now we have a possible ability of that skirmish on
Speaker 1: the border picking up again. Let's learn about this together.
Speaker 1: This is from Al Jazeera English.
Speaker 12: The funeral has been held in Pakistan for a lawyer
Speaker 12: killed in a suicide bombing outside an Islamabad court on Tuesday.
Speaker 12: He was one of twelve people who died in the attack.
Speaker 12: Pakistan's defense minister says that it has pushed the country
Speaker 12: into a state of war. An armed group linked to
Speaker 12: the Pakistani Taliban has claimed responsibility. It has heightened tensions
Speaker 12: in the region, with the government accusing both Afghanistan and
Speaker 12: India of backing armed groups. Both countries have denied the claim.
Speaker 12: Come on hyder reports from Islamabad.
Speaker 8: Given the fact that the attack ahead in Islamabad was
Speaker 8: an end of criminal attack outside the cicket court, which
Speaker 8: are not going to win any group any points, given
Speaker 8: the fact that innocent people were targeted. There was yet
Speaker 8: another attack in Southwark, Yidistan, this time along close to
Speaker 8: the Avran Borda and riched A. Pakistani security forces say
Speaker 8: that these fighters try to enter into a cadet college
Speaker 8: and that it took almost two days for them to
Speaker 8: clear that area without any loss to the students or
Speaker 8: the faculty. But at the same time, there's an important
Speaker 8: meeting going on in the Provincial Assembly of the Hyperpuuktunka
Speaker 8: province which is worth it by the recent violence and
Speaker 8: the governor, the Inspector General of Police, tribal elders and
Speaker 8: leaders of various parties are deliberating on how to come
Speaker 8: up with a policy in order to deal with the
Speaker 8: growing incidents of violence, which they will then be sharing
Speaker 8: with the central government. So indeed there is headway on that,
Speaker 8: and of course question marks as to why this attack
Speaker 8: took place in Islama paths, and that too at such
Speaker 8: a sensitive but again a public place.
Speaker 1: Don't miss it, all right, So let's go into reading
Speaker 1: this article here is from CBS newser targets Islamabad court
Speaker 1: killing twelve people as Pakistan condemns cowardly suicide attack Islamabad, Pakistan.
Speaker 1: A suicide bomber outside district court buildings in a residential
Speaker 1: area of the Pakistani capitol killed at least a dozen people.
Speaker 1: On Tuesday, Pakistan's Interior minister said at twelve thirty nine
Speaker 1: pm a suicide attack was carried out by or at
Speaker 1: the Kacheri district courts. So far, twelve people have been
Speaker 1: martyred and around twenty seven are wounded. That's Interior Minister
Speaker 1: Mosen Knakvi told reporters at the scene of the incident.
Speaker 1: He gives his first hand account of what would happen
Speaker 1: or what he saw that day. He entered the court building,
Speaker 1: A huge blast occurred and I thought the entire judiciary
Speaker 1: building would collapse on me. The guy, Zahid Khan, who
Speaker 1: gave that quote. He is an assistant to a lawyer
Speaker 1: in the court. He told CBS News. When I was upstairs,
Speaker 1: I saw people lying on the ground around the fire.
Speaker 1: Just three minute earlier, I had been at the exact
Speaker 1: spot while I parked my bike, I saw people lying
Speaker 1: injured with blood on the road, he said. He noted
Speaker 1: that the timing of the attack coming a week after
Speaker 1: Pakistani Taliban or TTP, along with some elements of the
Speaker 1: Afghan Taliban, issued threats against Pakistani cities. Pakistani later issued
Speaker 1: a statement saying the government strongly condemns the cowardly suicide
Speaker 1: attacks in Islamabad that claimed twelve innocent lives, including members
Speaker 1: of the judiciary. The Tarik Tariki Taliban Pakistan, which the
Speaker 1: TTP has claimed responsibility for the reprehensible act aimed at
Speaker 1: spreading fear and undermining Pakistan's judiciary system. The alleged suicide
Speaker 1: attack in Islamabad also came a day after militants stormed
Speaker 1: a military college in Wana in Pakistan South Wazen Natan
Speaker 1: or Waziristan region. Two militants were killed in the assault.
Speaker 1: Official said THET in statements shared with CBS News, denied
Speaker 1: involvement in both in Islamabad and Wanna attacks, but Pakistani
Speaker 1: security officials and analysis said the group was likely responsible
Speaker 1: for both.
Speaker 2: So that's kind of conflicting reports right there.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the TTP claimed responsibility for this act, that's
Speaker 1: a direct quote. Then the TTP, in a statement to
Speaker 1: CBS News denied involvement in.
Speaker 2: Both of these attacks.
Speaker 1: Take that with whatever grain of salt you want, go ahead, Sam.
Speaker 4: So I'm kind of I'm confused because like they're mad
Speaker 4: because that the government is trying to do a piece
Speaker 4: still with the Indian But I thought India and Pakistan
Speaker 4: were at each other's boat. And Pakistan don't they like
Speaker 4: their people. Don't they have like a strong history of
Speaker 4: suicide bombing their own people?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 4: Yes, so, my I guess what I'm questioning is why
Speaker 4: if there is a history and pattern recognition of this,
Speaker 4: why are they acting shocked?
Speaker 1: That's a fair question. Uh So, here's the deal. And
Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that this terrorist group had anything
Speaker 1: to do with it or not.
Speaker 3: What I am saying is that responsibility.
Speaker 2: They're saying that they're not responsible.
Speaker 1: The Pakistani media is saying that they are responsible, but
Speaker 1: at the same time that being said, they're also using
Speaker 1: this as fuel to reignite the tensions on the border
Speaker 1: with India, because as this suicide attack just took place India,
Speaker 1: they were swapping over to a new article here, India
Speaker 1: on Edge after deadly car explosion in capital region. Here's
Speaker 1: what we know, all right, So not only did Pakistan
Speaker 1: suffer something in their capital city, India suffered something in
Speaker 1: their capital city. A car explosion toured through a historic
Speaker 1: part of India's appital region on Monday, killing at least
Speaker 1: ten people and injuring many others, prompting the country's leader
Speaker 1: to vow to bring those.
Speaker 2: Responsible quote unquote to justice.
Speaker 1: The blast took place near the city's iconic red fort,
Speaker 1: also known as the Lal Kila, a seventeenth century monument
Speaker 1: and a symbol of India's independence. The area, a major
Speaker 1: tourist hub known for its crowded bazaars and street vendors,
Speaker 1: was immediately thrown into chaos. The incident, a rare occurrence
Speaker 1: for the sprawling metropolis of more than thirty million people,
Speaker 1: unleashed a scene of devastation in the heart of Delhi.
Speaker 1: Footage of the aftermath shows thick orange flames billowing out
Speaker 1: of the pitch black sky, vehicles twisted and charred from
Speaker 1: the blast, and victims strewn across the street.
Speaker 2: The cause of the blast.
Speaker 1: Is not yet known, and the Indian government has yet
Speaker 1: to blame any specific group. Comments from top government officials
Speaker 1: on Tuesday have begun to suggest the act was a
Speaker 1: deliberate one.
Speaker 2: Speaking from Bhutan.
Speaker 1: Where he is where he is on a visit, India's
Speaker 1: Prime Minister, Modi said, the horrific incident in Delhi has
Speaker 1: deeply saddened everyone.
Speaker 2: So now here's the deal.
Speaker 1: Nobody is willing to absolutely take credit for this as
Speaker 1: of this moment, but there are reports as of right
Speaker 1: now time of recording Wednesday night here that say that
Speaker 1: there are skirmishes picking up along the Pakistani and Indian borders. Now,
Speaker 1: could this be small groups of troops that are pissed
Speaker 1: off that they just had a bombing happen in their
Speaker 1: city or their country, I should say, And so they
Speaker 1: are seeing that is a reason to just reignite the
Speaker 1: whole conflict. Possibly, and maybe it's a very small unit,
Speaker 1: maybe it's not coming from orders from up top. Maybe
Speaker 1: these are soldiers that are acting on their own behalf.
Speaker 1: It's possible, but that also has the possibility of snowballing
Speaker 1: into reigniting the border conflict between these two countries. So
Speaker 1: as one of these explosions happened in the capital city
Speaker 1: in this country, and another one of these explosions happened
Speaker 1: in the apitol city of the other country, and these
Speaker 1: countries just got into a ceasefire agreement with each other.
Speaker 2: You see where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1: It might it may not, but it might reignite the
Speaker 1: conflict between these countries, and we need to be aware
Speaker 1: of that because that could have more of an inherent
Speaker 1: blowback for other Western nations.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Sham, so I stay with us secrely.
Speaker 4: If Indian Pakistan do just go to war and they
Speaker 4: plashheads like two goats, So what would that mean for us?
Speaker 3: Would that mean that we'd have to go and fight.
Speaker 4: Because because fortunately not fortunately, But and just in my
Speaker 4: my thoughts, I think that they should be like America,
Speaker 4: shouldn't get into it. Just let them fight each other
Speaker 4: and kill each other out. I think America has done
Speaker 4: enough bleeding for other countries.
Speaker 1: That's true, But as a matter of fact, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: look this up just so I don't speak out of
Speaker 1: turn here. I believe the United States and India just
Speaker 1: signed a military packed with each other.
Speaker 2: Just a couple of months ago.
Speaker 3: India was part of the BRICKS.
Speaker 4: So while they trying to get with US, if they're
Speaker 4: in bed with Russia.
Speaker 1: Because BRICKS is an economic union, what we talked about
Speaker 1: is the Yeah, it's right here. The US and India
Speaker 1: signed a ten year deference packed amid tariff turmoil. This
Speaker 1: is from Halloween. As a matter of fact, India and
Speaker 1: the US have signed a framework agreement to expand defense
Speaker 1: cooperation over the next ten years. The pact was announced
Speaker 1: after a meeting between US Defense Secretary Pete Hexsath and
Speaker 1: his Indian counterpart Rajnath Singh in Kuala Lumpur. The agreement
Speaker 1: will enhance coordination, information sharing, and tech cooperation and advance
Speaker 1: regional stability and deterrence. It comes as the two countries
Speaker 1: are trying to close a trade deal and tied over
Speaker 1: these tense ties after US President Trump's last fifty percent
Speaker 1: tariffs on India, including a twenty five percent penalty.
Speaker 2: For buying Russian oil and arms.
Speaker 1: Here's India and China just agreed that they're going to
Speaker 1: stop buying Russian oil from the sea. They didn't say
Speaker 1: anything about the land, but most of the oil is
Speaker 1: coming from boats anyway.
Speaker 2: It just it's the easiest way to go about it
Speaker 2: for them.
Speaker 1: They just agreed that they will stop buying Russian oil,
Speaker 1: and as a response to that, America just signed a
Speaker 1: military packed with India. So keep in mind also America
Speaker 1: does have I don't think we have any kind of
Speaker 1: real military packs with Pakistan.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna double check on that real quick.
Speaker 1: US Pakistan military packs.
Speaker 4: But what would happen if two NATO net countries did
Speaker 4: go to war against each other?
Speaker 1: That shouldn't be able to happen. That's the whole point
Speaker 1: of NATO is. I don't know honestly, but okay, so
Speaker 1: let's see here. It says there is no single overarching
Speaker 1: US Pakistan military pack today, but rather a series of
Speaker 1: agreements and a historic history of fluctuating cooperation, including past
Speaker 1: memberships in sinto which their GMO GMO jesus their co
Speaker 1: op basically, and more recent security memorandums. The relationship has
Speaker 1: been complex, involving military aid. Okay, cool, So As of
Speaker 1: this moment, America has way more ties to India than
Speaker 1: we have to Pakistan.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that we would absolutely go to
Speaker 2: war with Pakistan.
Speaker 1: During the post nine to eleven Wars, we actually had
Speaker 1: a decent working relationship with Pakistan.
Speaker 2: Even though they.
Speaker 1: Were allowing Osam bin Laden to hide in their mountains.
Speaker 1: They weren't an enemy of US, but they also weren't
Speaker 1: an ally to Afghanistan or al Qaeda forces. They were
Speaker 1: kind of playing middleman as best they could. Meanwhile, Mody
Speaker 1: wants to buy more American tech. Right they were about
Speaker 1: to buy F thirty fives from US, but then decided
Speaker 1: to go with the Chinese made to thirty seven's or
Speaker 1: whatever it was. I forget the nomenclature. Forgive me for that,
Speaker 1: because they basically were given it to them at cut
Speaker 1: rate prices and claiming that they were some sort of
Speaker 1: a sixth or seven gen fighter.
Speaker 2: Keep in mind they do have canards.
Speaker 1: But keep in mind, whenever we say like sixth or
Speaker 1: seventh or tenth generation fighter, there is no standard metric
Speaker 1: in the air wing community of nations to say what
Speaker 1: makes something a second gin or third gen. Across the board,
Speaker 1: basically that nation's next generation of fighters could be what
Speaker 1: they want to call it. America's fifth gen is basically
Speaker 1: space age technology as compared to every other national on Earth.
Speaker 1: And it's not even close, like by a factor of
Speaker 1: about fifty years.
Speaker 2: Is not close.
Speaker 4: Yes, sam oh, I'm not not to be like popaganda
Speaker 4: or anything, but isn't all like isn't rush like one
Speaker 4: of the they just try to have one of their
Speaker 4: planes be fucking pop driven.
Speaker 1: No, no, no no, they have their uh, their nuclear missile,
Speaker 1: their nuclear powered missile that is going so slow that
Speaker 1: it might as well be prop driven.
Speaker 3: Yes, maybe they should just continue that.
Speaker 4: Maybe they should just go back to putting vodka in factors,
Speaker 4: and war just should not be a Russian game like that.
Speaker 4: They're they're the only good thing for war that Russia
Speaker 4: has done, or is flip the the M one but
Speaker 4: the M one going boat upside down.
Speaker 2: To make a a k very good point.
Speaker 3: That's the only thing that they're good for and sucks.
Speaker 2: But if I watch it, I do love the AK
Speaker 2: war and I love them sixteen platform. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: honest with you.
Speaker 1: I like the versatility of the M sixteen. I like
Speaker 1: how way I like it's I like its accuracy. I
Speaker 1: like how it's traversible, you're able to modify and do
Speaker 1: a lot with it. I do love that. But the
Speaker 1: AK is the war dog people, it is. It's the
Speaker 1: you feed it and it works for you, you know what.
Speaker 3: I mean, not not taken away from that.
Speaker 4: It is a good battlement, but it it's the accuracy
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 2: Like in eight round.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's we're talking about this versus this. Apparently
Speaker 1: this is more accurate than this. Well, respectfully, I disagree
Speaker 1: now to say that. Even further, if you were to
Speaker 1: give me a long stroke piston driven ar platform, Oh
Speaker 1: I'm here all day. I am here all day. That's
Speaker 1: literally my thing. I don't like the short stroke piston.
Speaker 1: I prefer long stroke piston driven.
Speaker 2: That's just me personally.
Speaker 4: I wish that America Go would instead of using the
Speaker 4: five five six, I wish we could go back to
Speaker 4: the thirty odd six, because all I'm saying is a
Speaker 4: five five six didn't win US two World Wars.
Speaker 1: Perfect example, I'm holding my left hand a thirty odd
Speaker 1: six round, am I right?
Speaker 2: I'm holding a five five six.
Speaker 3: I understand that. Keep in mind, I've had a mosin.
Speaker 3: I fucking loved my Mosin up until the point and
Speaker 3: tried to kill me.
Speaker 2: It'd be like that.
Speaker 4: And I understand guns don't kill people, but that that
Speaker 4: fucking commy gun had a ghost stat because I took
Speaker 4: the bullets out. That that motherfucker even checked that bitch
Speaker 4: before I and then the night before I went to
Speaker 4: do fucking fifteen count man arms and that bitch went off.
Speaker 3: Even though I know for a fact I took the
Speaker 3: bullets out, do.
Speaker 1: You like check the chamber to make sure one wasn't
Speaker 1: like lodged in there?
Speaker 4: Yes, I even because I understand there's sometimes a bullet
Speaker 4: can get lodge and the fucking extracted don't work. I
Speaker 4: even thought of that, but I shoot, you know, as
Speaker 4: soon as that bell went out from up under my chin,
Speaker 4: because I went to the shoulder and everything. I did
Speaker 4: not have good for him that day, but I I
Speaker 4: was trying to I was rusty, I was trying to
Speaker 4: polish that shit. Gotcha, it went there, it went off,
Speaker 4: and man, the bullet went was this far.
Speaker 3: They knocked the flag down.
Speaker 4: It really made my ears wing, and I was like, well,
Speaker 4: I know for a fact Jesus loves.
Speaker 1: Me today well, thankfully you're still with us, Sam, But yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I agree, I would prefer us go to
Speaker 1: a better round. I like the thirty six personally, but
Speaker 1: even still depends on the application. I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: going for a sub sonic that is still as accurate,
Speaker 1: you could go for a three hundred blackout right, which
Speaker 1: was developed for so comm uses.
Speaker 2: They're doing a lot.
Speaker 1: They're doing a lot with weapons engineering right now, and
Speaker 1: I love it. And that's why I like like the
Speaker 1: honey Badger as a weapon that is excellent, and I
Speaker 1: wish we were able to put that to more scale.
Speaker 3: But shout out honey Badger, shout out to Q.
Speaker 1: But the thing is his his facility is only making
Speaker 1: as much as they're going to make because it's a
Speaker 1: money endeavor for him, and I get it.
Speaker 3: I'll talk about the Coltman and the Honey Badger.
Speaker 2: Oh, shoutout honey Badger.
Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, Yeah, But the Honey Badger is a good
Speaker 4: weapon system. I like the fact that it's an integrated
Speaker 4: or suppressor, which, funny enough, the stand had in World
Speaker 4: War Two, which also you can take this when it
Speaker 4: was first rated, it was like twenty five bucks. You
Speaker 4: can literally go in a into a lows of home depot,
Speaker 4: get about twenty bucks worth the midchew and walk out.
Speaker 4: You're gonna have a fully functioned on machine gun.
Speaker 1: Basically. I mean you can still do that now with
Speaker 1: a looty. You can build it yourself in machine a
Speaker 1: couple of parts. But it's it's really easy to make
Speaker 1: a fully automatic nine mil.
Speaker 4: Actually, dude, it's easy to make a fucking shotgun out
Speaker 4: of a bunk bed.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you just need two pipes. Basically you
Speaker 1: used to make a pipe gun. But beside the point.
Speaker 1: Beside the point. Also as talking about the honey Badger,
Speaker 1: I do like it's little brother, the sugar Weasel as well.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 3: Oh I'm gonna have to look that one up.
Speaker 2: Think of a it's a honey badger that is chambered
Speaker 2: in five five to six.
Speaker 3: Oh, that that'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we call it the sugar Weasel. It's also pretty dope.
Speaker 1: I will give it its flowers.
Speaker 2: But all right, So.
Speaker 1: Back to the overarching theme here, if India and Pakistan
Speaker 1: were to go into full fledged war, I don't think
Speaker 1: that the military alliance that America has with Indio would
Speaker 1: dict that we go to war with Pakistan. However, it
Speaker 1: would mean that we are going to be more on
Speaker 1: India's side as far as that's concerned, and give them
Speaker 1: some information, right, give them some intel, possibly give them
Speaker 1: a cut rate on some weapons systems and things like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm not saying that the conflict
Speaker 1: of what's going on right now in these two attacks,
Speaker 1: they may have been done independently and from in house
Speaker 1: terrorist groups. It's very possible. But as of this moment,
Speaker 1: there are skirmishes, small skirmishes popping up all along the
Speaker 1: India and Pakistan border. Hopefully in the next couple of
Speaker 1: days that should be squashed and everybody can go back
Speaker 1: to being calm individuals and it won't snowball into an
Speaker 1: all out war. But it is worth mentioning. Pete Heg
Speaker 1: said just brought up the fact that World War IIE
Speaker 1: might be looming on the horizon. Trump just got on
Speaker 1: and said that he wanted to start retesting nuclear weapons.
Speaker 1: China's doing the same, Russia is doing the same, North
Speaker 1: Korea is doing the same. India Nintie sorry Iran has
Speaker 1: been pushing and push for their nuclear manufacturing capabilities and
Speaker 1: they're saying that they're doing it for nuclear power, even
Speaker 1: though it's confirmed that they were making yellow cake. And
Speaker 1: there's no reason you would be making yellow cake unless
Speaker 1: you are trying to push it to the limits of
Speaker 1: being weapons grade. So as all of these nations are
Speaker 1: reigniting their quote unquote nuclear programs, keep in mind Trump
Speaker 1: is now also trying to reignite America's nuclear programs. Pretty
Speaker 1: much any small conflict India and Pakistan included, could potentially
Speaker 1: lead to more things, that lead to more things, which
Speaker 1: lead to more things, which lead to a world war.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a guarantee. I'm saying it's all possible,
Speaker 1: and we got to be aware of it.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: About the World War three, Oh, I know that. Yes,
Speaker 4: historically we have had them. It is always it is.
Speaker 4: The possibility is always greater than zero. What I cannot
Speaker 4: help but to think that we are somewhat more I
Speaker 4: wouldn't say we're more civilized, We're more greedy more, we
Speaker 4: care more about that money. So why would Russia want
Speaker 4: to do anything that will fuck up their their their
Speaker 4: money getting. But then again, you with Iran, I don't know,
Speaker 4: don't look, give me look I understand the Slavic special ed.
Speaker 2: No, no, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But I mean keep in mind they're they're they are
Speaker 1: about the money, that's correct, But then they're also feeling
Speaker 1: that hit because their two biggest buyers of oil are
Speaker 1: no longer buying their oil.
Speaker 4: So, but I don't think Russia would actually use a nuke,
Speaker 4: especially on a country not even five miles away from them,
Speaker 4: because like that, that that radiation isn't just gonna be
Speaker 4: contained in Ukraine. The global air currents and uh water
Speaker 4: currents is gonna take that. That's gonna bite Russia in
Speaker 4: the ass, not just from all the other countries, but
Speaker 4: it's gonna bite them in the ass ecologically, and it's
Speaker 4: gonna bite them, bite them in the ass agriculturally.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, no, no, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm still of the belief that everything of the nuclear
Speaker 1: conversation is is the ultimate saber rattle. But it's that's
Speaker 1: all it's ever gonna amount to.
Speaker 4: That's what everybody's worried about the about nuclear war, but
Speaker 4: because when people think of it, they think like fallouts.
Speaker 4: Though for that that happened, the bombs would have to
Speaker 4: hit the ground then explode. Sorry, but what has historically
Speaker 4: happened is it's an air burst, it blows up, takes
Speaker 4: out majority of the radiation, and which is why Narasaki
Speaker 4: can hear shama or livable today because most of the
Speaker 4: radiation it dissipated through dissipated within three days, ye.
Speaker 2: In like two weeks.
Speaker 4: Honestly, yes, what the reason why Chernobyl is so fucked
Speaker 4: is because it's all sitting there molting and just sitting
Speaker 4: on itself and there's no fixing Chernobyl. But Chernobyl should
Speaker 4: be the the the what the example because even that
Speaker 4: that that the they cut conas on it, they didn't
Speaker 4: do the jumping the mud right, they just dropped straight
Speaker 4: water on it.
Speaker 3: And that was a man made critical error.
Speaker 1: Now that being said, there is a new species of
Speaker 1: black mold that is our black fung gui that is
Speaker 1: growing on certain structures Inchernobyl, that is actually eating the radiation.
Speaker 3: So will find a way.
Speaker 1: Nature is finding a way to heal itself, even through
Speaker 1: human malfesians. But that being said, yet then there's examples
Speaker 1: of like downwinders that lived near or around nuclear testing
Speaker 1: sites and it wasn't like right, it wasn't like one
Speaker 1: bomb that went off and they called in and said
Speaker 1: they're like growing a third arm. It wasn't like that.
Speaker 1: But after years of nuclear testing and all of that
Speaker 1: blowing on them time after time after time after time, yeah,
Speaker 1: they started seeing some results.
Speaker 2: So like, I'm with you on that too.
Speaker 1: But no, I don't believe that World War three will
Speaker 1: devolve into a nuclear war. The media will have you
Speaker 1: believe these things. I don't think that's ever actually gonna happen.
Speaker 1: But as far as the alliance is with the India
Speaker 1: and the United States right now, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: gonna go nuclear either. I don't think the Russia conflict's
Speaker 1: gonna go there. I don't think North Korea is actually
Speaker 1: gonna do that. They tested a nuke, and that's a
Speaker 1: thing that took place. I don't think they would actually
Speaker 1: be dumb enough to use it. Even China, one of
Speaker 1: their closest allies, when they successfully launched that nuke, sent
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand troops to their border and said, hey, homie,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to calm down on that shit,
Speaker 1: and Kim Jong finally listened.
Speaker 4: But even still, it's yeah, Vocketman is not doing so good.
Speaker 2: Though.
Speaker 4: This is gonna sound controversial. I'd rather him being in
Speaker 4: charge than his fucking sister.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's not controversial.
Speaker 3: That's a fact that Broad is evil dog guy. Pretty
Speaker 3: sure she even killed her own husband.
Speaker 1: I think that she was a lot more had her
Speaker 1: hand in the killing of their uncle than Kim did.
Speaker 4: Dude, I'm pretty sure that she's the one who killed
Speaker 4: their brother instead of Kim.
Speaker 1: I think that about the brother, the uncle that was
Speaker 1: You heard about him dying in Japan. Yes, We're gonna
Speaker 1: do an episode on the Cultic Conspiracy about that, the
Speaker 1: way that he was killed with VX. But it was
Speaker 1: off of the hands of those two girls that had
Speaker 1: no idea.
Speaker 3: What was that was their brother? That wasn't an uncle
Speaker 3: that was the brother?
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do a little more digging.
Speaker 4: Uh it was either their uncle or yeah, it was
Speaker 4: an uncle that was like one of the real big
Speaker 4: business things. Who was in that was a puppet master
Speaker 4: of Kim's father, And when Kim came up, the uncle thought,
Speaker 4: well maybe I can just he thought he could just
Speaker 4: stay in that wall.
Speaker 3: No, Kim had him. Uh.
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, he's the one that the rooms
Speaker 4: was that he was executed via AA gun.
Speaker 1: Okay, no, No, I'm talking about the one that got
Speaker 1: VX on his face in Japan. Was okay, Yeah, i'mna
Speaker 1: have to do more digging on it. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: an episode on the cultic Conspiracy about that soon.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't believe. No, you're good, You're good.
Speaker 2: I don't think that.
Speaker 15: Uh.
Speaker 1: I don't think the world is at risk of nuclear war.
Speaker 1: I don't Are we at risk of World War three?
Speaker 2: Possibly?
Speaker 1: Possibly, and I hope not, but possibly, Well, it could
Speaker 1: be against Ai.
Speaker 2: That's a conversation we have. For sure.
Speaker 3: I think we are.
Speaker 4: I think if the nukes ever got used, just my
Speaker 4: humble opinion, I think it's because the clankers used it
Speaker 4: against us.
Speaker 2: It's very possible. It's very possible.
Speaker 1: But all right, moving on to the next conversational piece.
Speaker 1: As we were talking about certain things around the world,
Speaker 1: let's go a little further east into Asia and talk
Speaker 1: about the Thailand and Cambodia peace deal on the brink
Speaker 1: after clashing disputed border settlements. The incident, which Cambodia says
Speaker 1: left one civilian dead, comes two days after a TIE
Speaker 1: soldier was reportedly injured by a land mine explosion at
Speaker 1: the border, let's get into it. Thailand and Cambodia have
Speaker 1: traded accusations over another outbreak of violence along their shared border,
Speaker 1: marking the likely collapse of the peace accord agreed between
Speaker 1: the two nations last month. Late yesterday, Cambodia's government accused
Speaker 1: Thai soldiers of opening fire on civilians in a disputed
Speaker 1: settlement on the border between Cambodia's Bontier Mianhe Province probably
Speaker 1: mispronounced that and Thailand's Sa Kiyo Province.
Speaker 2: In a statement, the Ministry of Information said The Ministry
Speaker 2: of Information Okay.
Speaker 1: Said that Thai soldiers opened fire on Cambodian civilians around
Speaker 1: three point fifty pm yesterday. The incident led to the
Speaker 1: death of one civilian and injured three others, it added.
Speaker 1: In a subsequent Facebook post, Cambodian Prime Minister Han Manette
Speaker 1: said he strongly protested the unprovoked use of violence and
Speaker 1: that Cambodia remains committed to resolving this border issue peacefully,
Speaker 1: in line with the joint decorations signed by the two
Speaker 1: nations in Kuala Lumpur on October twenty six. The decoration,
Speaker 1: which was signed under the supervision of the US President
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Malaysian Prime Minister Ibram was intended to
Speaker 1: end the border dispute that erupted in an open into
Speaker 1: open conflicts for five days in July, killing at least
Speaker 1: forty three people and displacing more than three hundred thousand
Speaker 1: civilians on both sides of the border. After initially denying
Speaker 1: that if fired at or injured Cambodian civilians, the Thai
Speaker 1: government yesterday confirmed the incident. However, Royal Thai Army spokesperson
Speaker 1: claimed that the Thai soldiers were responding to Cambodian troops
Speaker 1: who fired shots into Thai territory. The incident lasted about
Speaker 1: ten minutes before Kolm was restored. The statement read. No
Speaker 1: Thai casualties were reported. The incident took place in a
Speaker 1: disputed frontier settlement, which Cambodia says is part of the
Speaker 1: Prey Shan village in Bontier Manche, and Thailand claims it's
Speaker 1: part of Ban Nong ya qu Jesus village of Seikio.
Speaker 1: The area has in recent months been the site of
Speaker 1: a number of confrontations between Thai soldiers and Cambodian civilians
Speaker 1: who they have been blocked from land in homes that
Speaker 1: they have been occupying for decades. So anyway, basically, this
Speaker 1: small incident might become a big incident. And as well
Speaker 1: as that was going on, a Tie soldier stepped on
Speaker 1: a landmine. Now, where did that landmine come from? It's
Speaker 1: a very good question. That's not important. What is important
Speaker 1: is that that was done around the same time that
Speaker 1: this other incident took place.
Speaker 2: Both sides are blaming each other.
Speaker 1: It's becoming a whole issue, and it might spit in
Speaker 1: the face of the peace of court that they literally
Speaker 1: just signed. Let's go ahead and watch this little video
Speaker 1: on it. That's gonna give a little more description on this.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 16: A conflict in Southeast Asia is escalating. Tie and Cambodian
Speaker 16: forces are clashing along their shed border. The fighting has
Speaker 16: killed at least twelve civilians. Here's what we know so far.
Speaker 16: Thai officials say clashes are ongoing and at least six
Speaker 16: areas across the frontier. The first erupted near an ancient
Speaker 16: temple near Thailand's Surin Province and Cambodia's odd Mayanshade region.
Speaker 16: Despite efforts to ease tensions, the situation escalated quickly, with
Speaker 16: fighting across multiple disputed stretches of the border. Cambodia has
Speaker 16: been accused of firing rockets into a Thai village, while
Speaker 16: Thailand has carried out airstrikes on Cambodian military targets. At
Speaker 16: least twelve ties, mostly civilians, have been killed across three
Speaker 16: Thai provinces. Six of those deaths happened in Sizaket after
Speaker 16: shots were fired at a gas station. Both sides say
Speaker 16: they were acting in self defense, each accusing the other
Speaker 16: of firing the first shot.
Speaker 17: The Royal Thai government urges Cambodia.
Speaker 2: To seize its repeated.
Speaker 17: Act, which constitutes severe violations of international law. There are
Speaker 17: no other ways but to use the Royal Thai Air
Speaker 17: Force will defend ourselves.
Speaker 14: That glam John CROWNI Vilai Thai Gudika Hi.
Speaker 1: For the record, This guy speaking in a language that
Speaker 1: most of our listeners won't speak. He is basically saying
Speaker 1: that everything it took place today is Thailand's fault. He said,
Speaker 1: please remember, brothers and sisters in the international community that
Speaker 1: Thailand opened fire on us because they want our land.
Speaker 2: Hi, but you brought.
Speaker 16: Thailand has closed the border with Cambodia, telling Thai nationals
Speaker 16: to leave the country. This is the second armed confrontation
Speaker 16: since May, when a Cambodian soldier was shot dead. Tensions
Speaker 16: fled again over the past week when two separate landmine
Speaker 16: explosions injured Thai soldiers, prompting Thailand to swiftly shut the border.
Speaker 16: Clashes between Thailand and Cambodia are nothing new. The two
Speaker 16: countries share a frontier stretching more than eight hundred kilometers
Speaker 16: drawn up in nineteen oh seven under French colonial rule.
Speaker 16: Cambodia has been using the map as a reference to
Speaker 16: claim territory, but Thailand insists the map is flawed. Some
Speaker 16: of the most violent flashpoints have been around here, close
Speaker 16: to the one thousand year old pray Vehir Temple. Both
Speaker 16: countries claim the temple as their own, and in nineteen
Speaker 16: sixty two, the International Court of Justice awarded the temple
Speaker 16: to Cambodia, but the ruling didn't end the dispute. Instead,
Speaker 16: it made things worse, and over the last fifteen years,
Speaker 16: deadly skirmishes have continued in the area. These latest clashes
Speaker 16: reopen old wounds driven by nationalist passions, religious symbolism, and
Speaker 16: historical grievance. Leaders across Asia are now calling for an
Speaker 16: immediate DS Galatian.
Speaker 2: Okay, now, Sam, I see your hand raised, brotherly, go.
Speaker 3: Ahead, okay.
Speaker 4: So just so that everyone's aware, a majority of the
Speaker 4: the minds that is in Asia right around high Land Laos, Cambodian.
Speaker 3: All.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a couple of them came from the Vietnam War
Speaker 4: and like the Korean War and ship like that, but
Speaker 4: majority of that was was placed there by the Japanese
Speaker 4: in World War two. Not just that, we also during
Speaker 4: Vietnam War we also dropped a fuck ton of anti
Speaker 4: personnel mines and shipped from airplanes and everything. And well
Speaker 4: a landmine doesn't care whether you're a fund for if
Speaker 4: you're a noncombatant a thousand years from now.
Speaker 3: As long as it's find that thing will go off.
Speaker 1: So I don't said it on the wires and things,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they're made to be protected against that for sure.
Speaker 4: Well, you have some land minds that if it's anti personnel,
Speaker 4: as soon as you step on it is going off.
Speaker 4: But the ones that that, oh, if you step on
Speaker 4: it don't go off. It's because a lot of times
Speaker 4: that's meant for vehicles. So it's gonna have like a
Speaker 4: required pressure weight like to actually set it on and
Speaker 4: explode and for a detonate.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know why Hollywood says, oh they stepped
Speaker 3: on a landline. As long as you don't move you okay,
Speaker 3: nah bitch.
Speaker 4: As soon as that that connects, that just completed, the
Speaker 4: circuit in that goes boom.
Speaker 3: I really like explosive state. They make my mind take tingle.
Speaker 3: That's why I don't want to be eod.
Speaker 2: No doubt.
Speaker 1: But now there's other types of triggering devices. Some of
Speaker 1: them once you push it, it arms it and as
Speaker 1: soon as you lift off of it, it explodes. There's
Speaker 1: movies that make that seem like it's way more prevalent
Speaker 1: than it actually is.
Speaker 2: That they do exist, those type of lines do exist,
Speaker 2: and yes.
Speaker 1: They were used by Vietnamese forces, They were used in
Speaker 1: other areas and other conflicts.
Speaker 2: Russians use them at one point in time.
Speaker 1: That is Uh, those are not as prevalent as the
Speaker 1: movies would have you believe.
Speaker 2: Those are more of the rarities.
Speaker 3: Actually. Do you know what the British called it, the
Speaker 3: debocla but you know what we would call a bouncing
Speaker 3: betty m.
Speaker 4: An as mine for the in Germany, like when they
Speaker 4: would step it like here, it would bit taller. You
Speaker 4: can set it up like you can even even a
Speaker 4: lot of times that anyway, it would. It's a mind
Speaker 4: that when the circuit is completely shoots up the h
Speaker 4: the explosion and then it scatters ball barons about waist high. Yeah,
Speaker 4: why it's called the debocular because it would. They a
Speaker 4: lot of guys lost their family joels that way. They're
Speaker 4: also Asians they I mean, so did the drums in
Speaker 4: the British in World War One when they did the
Speaker 4: exact same thing with the booby traps, they would leave
Speaker 4: wirecutters as a fuck.
Speaker 18: You know.
Speaker 4: But like stuff in like Covi and the Jungle and all,
Speaker 4: I guarantee you there are still there are still booby
Speaker 4: traps and all that our guys have set that are
Speaker 4: still pined in anything.
Speaker 2: We talked about that on an episode of the Cult.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we're talking about the giant
Speaker 1: stone jars in Cambodia and Laos.
Speaker 3: These Yeah, I don't remember that one.
Speaker 1: They have these giant stone jars or pots or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it. There's a lot of speculation
Speaker 1: as to what they were used for in the ancient
Speaker 1: times and all these things. The problem is this area
Speaker 1: is along the huci Min trail and although these stone
Speaker 1: pots were laid there god knows how long ago, because
Speaker 1: they are on the huci Min trail, they have land
Speaker 1: mines littered all throughout the area, so we can only
Speaker 1: for archaeological digging and scientific purposes only access like ten
Speaker 1: percent of them. The rest of them, like, they're not
Speaker 1: cleared of land mines yet. So it's yeah, that was
Speaker 1: an episode we did this year. I know that much.
Speaker 4: Also, they wouldn't just use like explosives in everything that
Speaker 4: u They also used the pungi sticks and they would
Speaker 4: also have like the ceramic jaws or whatever filled with
Speaker 4: battlesnakes and everything. So when our out of rat tunnels
Speaker 4: would go in, they'd break that the jaw would come down,
Speaker 4: they'd hit a thing, it would make the jaw come open,
Speaker 4: and you got a pissed off coblo, battlesnake, what have
Speaker 4: you that you're you're gonna You're gonna get bit in
Speaker 4: the middle of a fucking tunnel.
Speaker 2: You can't see, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 1: But again again we don't know as of this moment
Speaker 1: who set the landmine that the Cambodian soldier stepped on.
Speaker 1: It's very possible that it's a remnant of any one
Speaker 1: of those foreign nations from wars of many decades back.
Speaker 2: It's very possible that it was set by the tie fighters.
Speaker 3: Who knows tie fighters. We got start wars up in
Speaker 3: here now.
Speaker 1: No Thailand, Oh yeah, the other nations that's.
Speaker 2: Beefing with Cambodia right now.
Speaker 3: I understand that, but one of our I don't. I don't.
Speaker 4: When I think of ties and like fighters, I'm thinking
Speaker 4: like muy Thai or a really pissed off lady boy
Speaker 4: that some domb assen didn't want to pay.
Speaker 1: That's where goes all right, all right, fair enough anyway,
Speaker 1: moving on to the next topic of discussion.
Speaker 2: This is from the BBC.
Speaker 1: Satellite images indicates burning of bodies after fall of Sudan's city.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it here.
Speaker 1: Analysis of satellite imagery suggests paramilitary fighters in Sudan may
Speaker 1: have burned bodies before burying them in mass graves after
Speaker 1: the fall of the city of El Fasher.
Speaker 2: Let's get into it here. It says claims of mass.
Speaker 1: Graves and body burnings in Sudan's l Fasher city following
Speaker 1: its takeover of the Sudanese city of l Fasher in October.
Speaker 1: We've been investigating reports that the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces
Speaker 1: or RSF, buried hundreds of bodies in mass graves there,
Speaker 1: burning some before doing so. In our previous reporting, We've
Speaker 1: now analyzed multiple satellite images of areas where we can
Speaker 1: see white shapes consistent with the size of adult bodies
Speaker 1: in shrouds and mounds of newly displaced.
Speaker 2: Earth near a former children's hospital.
Speaker 1: These were the first reported by a Yale Humanitarian Research Lab,
Speaker 1: which has analyzed further imagery of the grounds of the
Speaker 1: city's Saudy Hospital and said this indicates somebodies.
Speaker 2: Were burned before burial in mass graves.
Speaker 1: The Sudan Doctors' Network has said the RSF has done
Speaker 1: this to conceal evidence.
Speaker 2: Of their crimes against civilians.
Speaker 1: BBC Verify has obtained satellite imagery from Vantor, allowing us
Speaker 1: to confirm Yale's work, showing ground being dug, white objects
Speaker 1: at the site the next day, and black smoke emerging
Speaker 1: from the area a few days later. So this is
Speaker 1: actually a satellite image that they are talking about. Here,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna zoom in a bit so we can get
Speaker 1: a better look. So here we see fresh dirt and
Speaker 1: holes being dug. The very next day, that was October thirty,
Speaker 1: first November. First we see piles of what appear to
Speaker 1: be bodies in bags or shrouds. Right then the very
Speaker 1: next day nobodies, no shrouds anything like that, a lot
Speaker 1: of black smoke and soot. And then what they don't
Speaker 1: show here but you can find better images of now,
Speaker 1: because this was on November sixth. Today the area has
Speaker 1: no fresh dirt from a hole being dug. They've covered
Speaker 1: it up, basically, and they did this in an attempt
Speaker 1: to cover the evidence of their war crimes.
Speaker 19: Go ahead, Sam, is this the because I know all
Speaker 19: as Streek that there were so many Christians being killed
Speaker 19: like Insidan you could actually see the blood, the pools
Speaker 19: of blood from space.
Speaker 4: Is this the ones that we're talking about last night? Oh,
Speaker 4: I swore it was. I was reading that it was
Speaker 4: at in Sedan.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I know Sudan's got some stuff going
Speaker 1: on too. I don't know if that is specifically against
Speaker 1: Christians or if it is like this is basically the
Speaker 1: RSF trying to just impose their will.
Speaker 2: And take over cities.
Speaker 1: I'm sure if you're a Christian in Sudan that that's
Speaker 1: bad for your health right now too, But.
Speaker 3: Yeah, break it down, keep us a RSF. The rss NO.
Speaker 1: RSF is the Rapid Support Forces, which is essentially the
Speaker 1: new iteration of a group you may have heard of
Speaker 1: before called the Janjaweed. You remember hearing about a genocide
Speaker 1: going on in Sudan's the Darfur region and that the
Speaker 1: Dupes that were doing this were called the janjawed That
Speaker 1: group has now become the RSF.
Speaker 4: Why, Okay, So I'm just going off of the culture.
Speaker 3: And the location. I'm gonna assume that there of the
Speaker 3: Islamic faith. Of course you said the ginger wed.
Speaker 2: Right, yep?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 3: Or ganja lead or whatever the fuck?
Speaker 4: Why is it that it sounds like that that name
Speaker 4: would be very problematic since it's not harm or that
Speaker 4: it is because it sounds like an intoxicant.
Speaker 2: Jan ja weed not ganja weed. But do you.
Speaker 1: In their language, that is not what they would use
Speaker 1: to describe the sacred herb if that's what you're getting at.
Speaker 2: Although I do think that's funny, that's good things.
Speaker 3: But everywhere might find there you.
Speaker 2: Go, there you go.
Speaker 1: So anyway, these are the images of what's going down
Speaker 1: in Sudan as of this moment. We now have a
Speaker 1: video that we're going to play to talk a little
Speaker 1: bit more about this. Let's learn together.
Speaker 15: The doctors in Sadan say the paramilitary Rapid Support Forces
Speaker 15: has been concealing evidence of its atrocities. The Saddan Doctors
Speaker 15: Network says fighters have been burning or burying bodies and
Speaker 15: mass graves in an attempt to cover up killings. In
Speaker 15: the Darfur region, the RSF took over Al Fasher, the
Speaker 15: capital of North dah Four two weeks ago, after driving
Speaker 15: out the army. The UN says there are reports of
Speaker 15: brutal attacks as people tried to flee the city. Well
Speaker 15: for the latest Morgan joins us from Khartoum. Now and
Speaker 15: these allegations of atrocities continue to get worse and worse,
Speaker 15: and all of this while the fighting actually continues to
Speaker 15: spread at the same time.
Speaker 10: Hibit Yes, indeed, now, these allegations and accusations by the
Speaker 10: Sudan's dotells.
Speaker 3: Networks is not new.
Speaker 10: We heard it from people who have been displaced from
Speaker 10: the city of Fashier following the RSF takeover last month.
Speaker 10: People saying that they saw the Rapid Support Forces opening
Speaker 10: fire and discriminately accusing each and every person in the
Speaker 10: city of Fawship of being affiliated to the army and
Speaker 10: its allied forces. Those who survived said that the rs
Speaker 10: HAVE did not differentiate between women, children, the elderly and
Speaker 10: actual fighters, and that even members of the alliance that
Speaker 10: is that the RSEF is part of, family, members of
Speaker 10: the alliance, of members of the alliance that the RSF
Speaker 10: is part of, have been killed in these indiscriminate attacks. Now,
Speaker 10: the RSF of course has been accused, have been accused
Speaker 10: of summary execution, mass killings, abductions, and those who we
Speaker 10: spoke to said that the RSF kills people even in
Speaker 10: their homes. Now that is where the RSEF took over
Speaker 10: from the Sudanese Army. There is fighting going on elsewhere
Speaker 10: in the town of Babanusa in West Krudufan, and the
Speaker 10: RSF launch repeated attacks on the army base there. On
Speaker 10: Sunday wave of attacks that apparently targeted the base with
Speaker 10: the hopes of taking control of it after months of siege.
Speaker 10: The Resistance Committee of Babanusa said that the city has
Speaker 10: been displaced completely or entirely from its civilians, and that
Speaker 10: the only remaining people there are the people that are
Speaker 10: finn to the army and the soldiers of the Sudanese
Speaker 10: Armed Forces. Now, of course there's also a concern of
Speaker 10: fighting elsewhere and siege by the RSF elsewhere in the
Speaker 10: cour Defan region, with the UN saying that as a
Speaker 10: result of these siege the situation there is quite catastrophic.
Speaker 10: The humanitarian situation there is very dire, with thousands and
Speaker 10: thousands of people in desperate need of humanitarian assistance.
Speaker 15: Hebert, thank you so much for all of that, Heimbert
Speaker 15: Morgan for us in Khartoun.
Speaker 1: Okay, So again, the situation in Sudan is not getting
Speaker 1: any better, and the RSF is absolutely running a monk.
Speaker 1: They are committing crimes against humanity as of this moment.
Speaker 1: And as I've said before and as I will continue
Speaker 1: to say, we will keep everybody informed as far as
Speaker 1: that goes.
Speaker 2: But I also think it's interesting to bring this up.
Speaker 2: The UAE, yes we are talking about Dubai is the
Speaker 2: main backer behind the Sudan war.
Speaker 1: Intelligence officer tells Sky News in an exclusive interview with
Speaker 1: an undisclosed in an undisclosed location, Sky News learns many
Speaker 1: of the planes landing in South Darfur are allegedly bringing
Speaker 1: weapons from the Middle East country, something its government vehemently denies.
Speaker 1: The tribal militia turned paramilitary RSF in Sudan are known
Speaker 1: to document their own war crimes, which is true. Videos
Speaker 1: of their fighters lynching women, lashing emergency responders, and cheering
Speaker 1: over dead bodies have circulated over online since the start
Speaker 1: of the rsf's war with the Sudan Army in April
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three. One piece of evidence never really
Speaker 1: revealed any of their violent videos is who's backing them
Speaker 1: and why. In an exclusive interview with Sky News at
Speaker 1: a location we cannot disclose, an RSF intelligence officer confirms
Speaker 1: widespread allegations that the United Arab Immirates the UAE is
Speaker 1: the rsf's main backer in a war that has created
Speaker 1: the world's largest humanitarian crisis and force thirteen million people
Speaker 1: to flee their homes.
Speaker 2: In the beginning, it was the Russians, Wagner and the state.
Speaker 1: Now they tell me it's the UAE supporting the RSF,
Speaker 1: says Ahmed, using an alias to protect his identity. Originally
Speaker 1: from North Darfur, Ahmad or Ahmed lives a double life
Speaker 1: as a refugee in one of Sudan's neighboring countries while
Speaker 1: staying connected to forces on the ground. This is a
Speaker 1: direct quote from the anonymous source. Many of the planes
Speaker 1: landing at Nayala in South Darfur are said to bring
Speaker 1: weapons from the UAE and particularly through the amdraas Am
Speaker 1: Daras I don't know how to pronounce that word airport
Speaker 1: in Chad. It's a financial relationship no more. The RSF
Speaker 1: controls areas with large gold mines. Darfour alone has more
Speaker 1: than four or five gold mines. The UAE is a
Speaker 1: gold trading hub. So essentially, this guy's claiming that the
Speaker 1: UAE is exchanging weapons for slave mind gold out of
Speaker 1: Sudan and that the RSF is giving them a way
Speaker 1: better price than the Sudanese government.
Speaker 2: So it would be in.
Speaker 1: The UAE's best interest to support the quote unquote.
Speaker 2: Freedom fighters or rebels or whatever they want to call themselves.
Speaker 1: Let's see on the outskirts of North dar Force Coronoy Town,
Speaker 1: we meet Joint Task Force Intelligence Commander Idris Ali. The
Speaker 1: Joint Task Force forces are made up of former rebels
Speaker 1: from across dar four that the military armed the RSF
Speaker 1: to crush through mass ethnic violence in the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: We talked about that when they were called the Janjaweed
Speaker 1: and that was the genocide that was going on in Darfur.
Speaker 1: Now they are armed by the state to fight the RSF.
Speaker 1: Our patriotism does not allow us to surrender our right
Speaker 1: to the Lamb means we have to fight until our
Speaker 1: last breath, says Commander Ali. So anyway, I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting to mention this as we are talking about how
Speaker 1: Katar and the UAE are doing a lot to try
Speaker 1: to change their image on the world stage.
Speaker 2: There is also some reports that are acknowledging that.
Speaker 1: The UAE is actually funding one of the biggest humanitarian
Speaker 1: crisises on the planet to date in an attempt.
Speaker 2: To get cheaper gold.
Speaker 1: So just wanting to bring that up for everybody now
Speaker 1: as we are rounding out this episode. I did want
Speaker 1: to end this on a positive note, and I think
Speaker 1: that this is a really awesome note to end this
Speaker 1: episode of the Cage to Night. On one hundred and
Speaker 1: three year old Rosie the Riveter to be honored with
Speaker 1: a bronze statue at Royal Oak memorial.
Speaker 2: Let's learn about this together.
Speaker 7: They say a picture is worth a thousand words, but
Speaker 7: in this case, this picture is worth decades of inspiration
Speaker 7: for generations of working women. That's Francis Masters, a one
Speaker 7: hundred three year old Rosy the riveter.
Speaker 3: Just incredible.
Speaker 13: Her work during World War Two will soon be immortalized
Speaker 13: in Bronze and Memorial Park in Royal Park.
Speaker 7: Seven News Detroit reporter Evan Siri had the opportunity to
Speaker 7: sit down with Francis to listen to her stories still fresh.
Speaker 7: All these decades just.
Speaker 18: Came out of the depression and we all had to work.
Speaker 9: Nineteen thirty nine. It was the end of one profound
Speaker 9: and consequential era and the dawn of a new one,
Speaker 9: World War II.
Speaker 18: Since my brothers were both in the army, the next
Speaker 18: person to helped my family was me.
Speaker 9: For Francis Masters, that then pulling up her sleeves and
Speaker 9: getting to work inside a bomber plant in Ipsilanzi.
Speaker 18: I worked at the bomber plant to make money plus
Speaker 18: gave me up honored to work to help for the
Speaker 18: war effort.
Speaker 9: Do you still remember those days pretty well?
Speaker 18: I do remember going early in the morning taking a
Speaker 18: streaker plus the bus now.
Speaker 9: At one hundred and three years old. Master's work as
Speaker 9: an original Rosie the Riveter will be immortalized at the
Speaker 9: Michigan World War Two Legacy Memorial in Royal Low.
Speaker 18: It's a privilege not only for me, but for all
Speaker 18: the other Rosies.
Speaker 9: This is where the statue of France's Masters will be
Speaker 9: unveiled this veteran's day. I talked to the president of
Speaker 9: the Board of Directors for this memorial, who tells me
Speaker 9: Francis was the perfect Michigander to represent this Rosie the
Speaker 9: Riveter unveiling.
Speaker 20: And that's one thing we wanted to make sure is
Speaker 20: that basically this memorial represents Michigan's contributions to World War Two.
Speaker 20: If he told us about going through the plant, seeing
Speaker 20: the President go through with Henry Ford.
Speaker 9: This is a picture of Masters standing next to a
Speaker 9: clay model of the statue. It will show a portrayal
Speaker 9: of France's working on the factory line. Riveting the panel
Speaker 9: for the B twenty four bomber.
Speaker 18: I used the press. I use a small small riveter
Speaker 18: plus and the bigger part of the of the of
Speaker 18: the plane, I used a power gun. It came from
Speaker 18: the ceiling.
Speaker 9: I asked the former acrobat, who, even at nine years old,
Speaker 9: performed inside Detroit's historic Fox Theater. What keeps her so young?
Speaker 18: Vegetables? And I kidd I says, I use a lot
Speaker 18: of olive boil.
Speaker 9: In royal with a Rosie the Riveter.
Speaker 18: We were in the front helping out beside the soldiers,
Speaker 18: and I'm really honored to be one.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you know, I thought, as we are rounding
Speaker 1: out this holiday season for all the military members out there,
Speaker 1: that it is awesome that they are going to honor
Speaker 1: this local Rosie the Riveter in that town with a
Speaker 1: bronze statue of her riveting and getting after it. And
Speaker 1: you know, this episode we did talk about a couple
Speaker 1: of very dark topics, so not so fun things. I
Speaker 1: felt like this is a good way to and did Sam,
Speaker 1: what's your thoughts?
Speaker 3: Nobody? She does all the pops she can get.
Speaker 4: And I actually have a little joke about riviting you
Speaker 4: when you take the you take two piece of metal,
Speaker 4: put them together and use the scrap of the other
Speaker 4: metal to hold them together.
Speaker 3: That the science of that is quite riviting.
Speaker 1: I like it, Sam, I dig it anyway, all right, Joe,
Speaker 1: we are gonna wrap this episode up. For anybody that
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