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Speaker 2: here to be talking about all the trades. There were
Speaker 2: a ton of them, of course, none bigger to start
Speaker 2: the show than the Diamondbacks acquiring Lars new Bar at
Speaker 2: the very deadline. Uh the newt finally as a Diamondback,
Speaker 2: my guy, Lars Newpar. I mean the Diamondbacks. Sure they
Speaker 2: had needs closer, middle relief, starting pitcher, first base, maybe
Speaker 2: backup catcher, but they went and got the thing that
Speaker 2: they really needed. That was large new Bar. They got
Speaker 2: another left handed outfielder. The most important thing you could
Speaker 2: do is make sure you have all the left handed bats.
Speaker 2: But they did go and get Lars new Bar. Maybe
Speaker 2: not the biggest trade, maybe not the most important or impactful,
Speaker 2: but fun fact, he did trademark his name for a
Speaker 2: protein bar, So maybe we'll get that out here. In Arizona.
Speaker 3: Bugs, can't wait, can't wait to have Lars new Bars
Speaker 3: out there. Can this dude not play first base at all?
Speaker 3: Has he never played first I.
Speaker 2: Don't think he's ever played first base. Can we try
Speaker 2: Ryan Walschmidt at first base? Or anybody ever? Not hurt? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I mean, can can you play it first with a
Speaker 3: broken arm or a bad hamstring?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: But look at this profile. Look at this so you
Speaker 2: got fifty one percent hard to hit. He's not chasing,
Speaker 2: he's not whiffing. He's only expected to forty two. And
Speaker 2: he hasn't really hit any homers or done anything else
Speaker 2: to speak of. But he is large new Bar bugs, yep,
Speaker 2: one of your favorite players. So there we go. We
Speaker 2: got him so happy.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that they turned the Gambo just into
Speaker 3: a propaganda machine, just like well, you know, the DBAC
Speaker 3: see it as they're getting their guys back from the IL,
Speaker 3: and that's now it's gonna be.
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I hate that more than anything
Speaker 2: that exists out there. It feels like it's a Diamondback
Speaker 2: specific thing. I told the story they did that with
Speaker 2: the Suns when I used to work at the radio
Speaker 2: station and the reason I hate it is, you know,
Speaker 2: there's someone in the front office that's going and they're
Speaker 2: selling these guys. You're like, well, you know, we don't
Speaker 2: have to trade anything to get Corbin Burns back. We
Speaker 2: didn't have to make any moves to get Justin Martinez.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, okay, but they're all injured, they're all hurt,
Speaker 2: and things stink. Like I hate that as a reason
Speaker 2: to not make moves, And frankly, that might be the
Speaker 2: narrative with some other teams. Because there were fifty trades
Speaker 2: that happened just today, I don't I mean, there were
Speaker 2: a billion trades that happened. There probably was the deadline
Speaker 2: where there were more. I wouldn't be able to tell
Speaker 2: you which one it was. There were so many trades
Speaker 2: it was ridiculous, and you know, so much we're gonna
Speaker 2: have to try to decipher through in a short amount
Speaker 2: of time. But there were still some teams that, like
Speaker 2: surprisingly didn't make the moves when it seemed like there
Speaker 2: were quite a few players that were available out there.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know, like there were only so many
Speaker 2: teams that were selling, and then there were some teams
Speaker 2: that were doing like weird stuff like the Blue Jays
Speaker 2: go and trade Gossman, but then they buy Jose Soriano.
Speaker 2: Like there's weird stuff. But like, I don't think there's
Speaker 2: any way to walk away and not look at the
Speaker 2: Brewers and say, this is a disappointment. They didn't go
Speaker 2: and make the move. So look at the Atlanta Braves
Speaker 2: and say, oh, Tyler Molly that that was the big
Speaker 2: thing that we were gonna do. Like, I think those
Speaker 2: two teams really really kind of failed on that side.
Speaker 2: I thought that was a pretty big disappointment.
Speaker 3: I agree with that there were plenty of teams that
Speaker 3: could have pushed the chips in. I mean, you can,
Speaker 3: we can go all the way back to you know,
Speaker 3: two months ago when Trek Scooble was traded, which was
Speaker 3: you know, actually like three days ago. But uh, you know,
Speaker 3: no one offered more than this for the best left
Speaker 3: handed pitcher in baseball right now, Like, I don't stand.
Speaker 2: Did I tell you the story that I tell I
Speaker 2: think I might have totally done leading off, But I
Speaker 2: was on CBS Sports HQ Live. Uh well it wasn't
Speaker 2: live at the time. We were pre recording a segment,
Speaker 2: and I had like all my stuff and all these
Speaker 2: notes and whatever, and I think we were talking about, like,
Speaker 2: you know, the whole Reds calling the Red Sox about
Speaker 2: Ellie and all this nonsense. We're halfway through the segment.
Speaker 2: It's a great segment. It's going well, and then I'm
Speaker 2: in middle of talking and then I hear we'll just
Speaker 2: go trade. We gotta shop, we gotta shop, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: and I just do this, and then the then the
Speaker 2: guy who's the the host kind of keeps going and
Speaker 2: he goes, no, no, just stop TERI school, but we're
Speaker 2: catting everything. We're going live, and then I'm just standing
Speaker 2: there and I'm like, hands are up. I'm like, huh.
Speaker 2: Thirty seconds later, we go live on CBS Sports HQ
Speaker 2: for the Schooble breakdown. Luckily I was nice and prepared
Speaker 2: and everything like that. But it was a fifteen minute
Speaker 2: long segment on Trek's Goooble on CBS Sports HQ, and
Speaker 2: that was my introduction introduction to it because I was
Speaker 2: like recording a show as he got traded, and there
Speaker 2: was a lot of bruhaha about it. I feel weird
Speaker 2: about spending any crazy amount of time on the trades
Speaker 2: that happened over this weekend, but they did happen. The
Speaker 2: trade was still a good trade. I got pushed back
Speaker 2: from people online. There were people that are very pissy
Speaker 2: about it. Oh, what are you talking about? They should
Speaker 2: have got more, they should have got Well, guess what,
Speaker 2: no team offered more. And I agree with schoobl statements.
Speaker 2: I agree with a multitude of other people that go listen,
Speaker 2: that trade wasn't a Dodgers have all the money in
Speaker 2: the world trade. That was the Dodgers have no fear
Speaker 2: and built a system to be able to make a
Speaker 2: move like this. Schooble wasn't expensive. Had nothing to do
Speaker 2: with money. Nine million dollars or whatever. The rest of
Speaker 2: the year, that's nothing, Burger. This was this, This was
Speaker 2: everything else. This is this team built a ridiculously great
Speaker 2: minor league system. They had developed these players, they had
Speaker 2: a roster, they had flexibility, and they're willing to go
Speaker 2: balls out for it.
Speaker 3: Please stop making us defend the Dodgers, all right, But.
Speaker 2: Every other team was not willing to do that for
Speaker 2: whatever varying degree. And the rumor or the word on
Speaker 2: the street was is the Tigers called the Dodgers right
Speaker 2: after that loss and said, we just want to be
Speaker 2: done with this because I think all the trade offers
Speaker 2: were just clearly not there. And zire Hope is a
Speaker 2: great get, River Ryan is a solid get. They're not.
Speaker 2: This isn't the greatest trade for a long time. People
Speaker 2: are expecting the return for what Juan Soto got, but
Speaker 2: this is a two month rental. This is the best
Speaker 2: prospect that was traded with Zaire Hope, and I me
Speaker 2: and Rico got into know if you saw this, not
Speaker 2: got into it, but like he was following the whole
Speaker 2: baseball Baseball America was touting because they had argent Nemala
Speaker 2: higher that they they could then spend. Then a narrative
Speaker 2: could be spun that the Angels got more for Soriano
Speaker 2: than the Tigers got for scoopl A. I think that's false,
Speaker 2: and I think that's real baseball. Like positionally, shortstops are
Speaker 2: just rated better because they can move around and blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. Yeah, but also be like no, and see
Speaker 2: it was a rental versus a guy with two years
Speaker 2: of control, so it was silly. It was a fine return,
Speaker 2: probably near the best of what they've could have got.
Speaker 2: And the Dodgers made the move, and now Scoobl's on
Speaker 2: a freaking super team and he's gonna dude's gonna ball out.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, like like look at this thing, like,
Speaker 2: look look at that, Look at all that it's nasty.
Speaker 2: Look at this Dodger.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but but I mean the people that say, hey, look,
Speaker 3: the Dodgers aren't ruining baseball.
Speaker 2: It's every it's the team's not spending, they are right.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's why our boy Barbari sent me this shirt a
Speaker 3: long time ago, the Cell shirt for the A's owners.
Speaker 2: Right. Uh.
Speaker 3: I mean, the Pirates made some moves, but the Marlins
Speaker 3: cut payroll, the Rockies didn't trade guys like that. There
Speaker 3: are plenty of teams that could have pushed a little
Speaker 3: bit more. Seattle couldn't have got this done for Schooble,
Speaker 3: like they don't need pitching, but they could have got
Speaker 3: it done, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: They only wanted to make this happen. Right, Well, so
Speaker 2: you do get into like what the teams have. What
Speaker 2: I thought was interesting was the I don't know if
Speaker 2: you saw the Phillies offer was gage wood justin Crawford
Speaker 2: and something else. And I was like, you know, pretty good,
Speaker 2: that's actually pretty strong. I still don't know if it's
Speaker 2: higher then, because like Hope is close to the major leagues.
Speaker 2: I mean, Crawford is a major leaguer, but I think
Speaker 2: his offensive profiles down gauge wood could be better than
Speaker 2: River Ryan. But River Ryan stuff plus numbers I mentioned
Speaker 2: on leading off one o one stuff plus I believe
Speaker 2: his sinker was a one to twelve stuff, plus his
Speaker 2: curve and fastball were one o eight and one oh nine.
Speaker 2: So like he's a good stuff plus monster. He just
Speaker 2: needs to get healthy. He could be a mid rotation piece,
Speaker 2: but I would agree that's still not there. And then
Speaker 2: every other offer wasn't there, Like the Brewers didn't want
Speaker 2: to give up Logan Henderson or Luis paynyet. Okay, then
Speaker 2: you're not competitive. The Braves, I'm not sure they had
Speaker 2: the pieces to do it just and the Rays never do.
Speaker 2: Nobody ponied up. No one was willing to pony up
Speaker 2: for it, And I think that's that's the du It's
Speaker 2: kind of the dumb side of it. If the Red
Speaker 2: Sox wanted Schooble, I mean, do you really want to
Speaker 2: trade Franklin Argius for a rental?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: But again, the Dodgers had the ability to do it
Speaker 2: because I hope would be a number one in so
Speaker 2: many other systems, but he was like the fifth in there.
Speaker 2: So they have like literally two other outfielders ranked higher.
Speaker 2: And you could argue James Tibbs. So school's gonna absolutely
Speaker 2: dominate from uh for this Dodgers team. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if you heard me mention this before, but I
Speaker 2: think this could, like in the babyest of ways, maybe
Speaker 2: speak to the Dodgers having like maybe a little bit
Speaker 2: more concerned about Otani's leg and him being pitched in
Speaker 2: the regular season. Could definitely could be.
Speaker 3: But the price wasn't exorbitan, so I think even if
Speaker 3: Sho Hay was pitching, uh, they probably wouldn't care.
Speaker 2: But that that begs the question here.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I don't think show Hay's pitching again until
Speaker 3: maybe the playoffs, right, Like, if he does, it's gonna
Speaker 3: be for like an inning to win.
Speaker 2: I think it's in like September. I think it'll be
Speaker 2: like two or three outings a little stretch in September.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just warm him up for the playoffs to pitch.
Speaker 3: And even then, in my be uh, you know, more
Speaker 3: as an opener and stuff in the playoffs if he
Speaker 3: pitches like two or three innings, but who else? Like, okay,
Speaker 3: so Snell comes back, show Hey comes back. What does
Speaker 3: this rotation look like? Sheahann just immediately goes to the bolt.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he goes Japan. Roki, I think could go.
Speaker 3: Robleski's the one I don't think you can take out.
Speaker 2: So I think if Otani's not in there, it's it's Yamamoto, Scooble, Glass, Now, Snell,
Speaker 2: and Robleski. That's the five. Still working on the way
Speaker 2: back to if you would like to have a six
Speaker 2: man rotation, you could put Roky in there. If if
Speaker 2: Glass now is like really halted back, then Roki can
Speaker 2: be in that side of the rotation and you got
Speaker 2: just all the flexibility in the world. All that actually
Speaker 2: matters here is when you put out Yamamoto, sale In,
Speaker 2: Schooble like I'm sorry, Sale, Snell, Snell, and Schooble like
Speaker 2: that three is just ridiculous. Then whatever ordering of other
Speaker 2: pitchers you want to do, it's you know, the they're
Speaker 2: the new Evil Empire, man, they made it happen.
Speaker 3: Who are the starters for the Tigers now? So it's
Speaker 3: from ber Melton Kider Montero, but they traded Maze of
Speaker 3: the Padres Clarity. Okay, well Flarity's on the il right now,
Speaker 3: but he'll be coming back.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's Jackson. Joe would be a
Speaker 2: guy that comes up that's like the n likely You're right,
Speaker 2: that's probably Clarity and Joe were also coming back to
Speaker 2: I don't know what, all right, So let's get through
Speaker 2: there's I'm gonna talk about some of the early trades
Speaker 2: that happened, and then we're gonna focus in that last run.
Speaker 2: I did do a live breakdown if you want other
Speaker 2: perspectives with Joe Rico on Fantasy Pros. This is gonna
Speaker 2: be kind of a lot more. I don't even see
Speaker 2: this down on the farm said she han't got options,
Speaker 2: so dull get him that he's been awful. Yeah, crush
Speaker 2: of the night. These are kind of buckets that we're
Speaker 2: going to go in. So this is gonna be like
Speaker 2: fully trade deadline conversation here.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I will also mention if you guys want a full
Speaker 2: breakdown of the Prospects, I'm going to do a Prospects
Speaker 2: only episode on Prospect one of the guys that were traded,
Speaker 2: so you know when the school trade comes up, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be talking more about Hope and River Ryan than
Speaker 2: it is Schooble and the Cardinals got they fleeced the
Speaker 2: Brewers in the dustin May. Trade is ridiculous. So if
Speaker 2: you want to hear my takes on that, I got
Speaker 2: Tim Kanak joining me. We're gonna do that. That'll be
Speaker 2: posted on Tuesday. I'm gonna be recording that after a
Speaker 2: little bit after this show. So we'll be doing sole
Speaker 2: prospects here, but we're gonna do these in little tier
Speaker 2: groups so that the early trades when we go through here,
Speaker 2: you had Louis Garcia going to the Yankees. Not really
Speaker 2: a big haul. I'd love him in the ballpark, but
Speaker 2: rotation bogs. It looks like he'll be strong siding old,
Speaker 2: he'll be short side.
Speaker 3: Yeah, platoon kind of disappointed. We didn't see maybe goal
Speaker 3: to get out of New York for playing time. But
Speaker 3: you know, good good bench off the back, good bench
Speaker 3: against lefty or a good hitter against lefty, so why
Speaker 3: would they? But yeah, I think this definitely hurts Garcia.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping let's take a look at Luis Garcia because
Speaker 2: I think there's the potential that he could be a
Speaker 2: guy that could stay. How has he hit lefties this year?
Speaker 2: Let's see he is, oh man, he's barely played. I
Speaker 2: didn't realize that. Fifty five at bats versus lefties, he's
Speaker 2: hitting only two eighteen, low strikeout rate, he's not walking,
Speaker 2: he's got a couple homers. I don't know. I just
Speaker 2: don't know if if like they're gonna look at this,
Speaker 2: I mean, also look at the crazy pull heavy side
Speaker 2: on the spray chart. He I mean, which is gonna
Speaker 2: be great in New York. But between and and they
Speaker 2: and I guess Ben Rice is not gonna probably play catcher,
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be like those two platooning and by
Speaker 2: the way, the other since we're here, the Yankees also
Speaker 2: acquired today Halio Ramos, which I thought was a great addition.
Speaker 2: But does he get into platoon situation when they've got
Speaker 2: freaking Stanton coming back, They've got Jason Dimingez, they probably
Speaker 2: optioned Spencer, Spencer Jones, Aaron Judge is gonna come back.
Speaker 2: I do a little bit worry because I think Garcia
Speaker 2: and Helio are both pluses in this spot. But then
Speaker 2: they come back down if they're into platoons. We only
Speaker 2: do really know that Luis looks like he's going to
Speaker 2: be in a form of a platoon, So that's kind
Speaker 2: of a that's kind of a drag man.
Speaker 3: Who have they pushed off the roster by adding these guys?
Speaker 3: Do we have corresponding moves yet? Like I haven't sn.
Speaker 2: Is Well, the bualty wouldn't be gone because Garcia is
Speaker 2: going to play first base, so he can play first
Speaker 2: or second, So that'll have nothing to do with unless
Speaker 2: they just wanted to make a full commitment to cabayerro
Speaker 2: it's short. Yeah, I don't know. Spencer Jones, I imagine
Speaker 2: will be the number one he goes for Hellia. I'm
Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sure I have I have not
Speaker 2: paid attention to what I would assume.
Speaker 3: Maybe Domingos goes back down when Judge comes back to
Speaker 3: so like it'll look different for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna look weird, but uh, from plus to
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if there's a lot of
Speaker 2: big It's one of those where it's just like I
Speaker 2: want to tell you this is awesome, but I'm a
Speaker 2: little bit worried the platoon's going to take off a
Speaker 2: little bit we had a couple of pitching moves, quite
Speaker 2: a few pitching moves. Luis Castillo went to the White
Speaker 2: Sox for Nolan Jones, Sar Anthony Dimingez in Boston Smith,
Speaker 2: Freddie Praulta went to the Rays for a collection of
Speaker 2: prop and Kevin Gossman went to the Cubs. These were
Speaker 2: some earlier trades between I believe. I actually think Castillo
Speaker 2: might have been Saturday night if I remember, and then
Speaker 2: between that time in this morning, Kevin, Gosmin Peralta and
Speaker 2: Luis Castillo. Who do you like most making that change?
Speaker 2: Like which picture are you buying in on their new destination?
Speaker 3: Probably Gossplin, just because Castillo and Freddy have had issues
Speaker 3: this year, right, So I like Gosmin going to the Cubs.
Speaker 3: I know the ballparks a little worse, but Toronto's not
Speaker 3: a great pitching environment either. I like these guys getting
Speaker 3: to new situations because they've struggled in Luis Casillo and
Speaker 3: Freddie Peralta. But I don't know, are we really convinced
Speaker 3: that Freddy Peralta is just going to be a much
Speaker 3: better pitcher going to the Rays. Maybe they think they
Speaker 3: know what the issue is. Same thing with Luis Castillo.
Speaker 3: Luis Casillo had a couple good starts going into like
Speaker 3: the trade deadline, so you know, nice for him, so
Speaker 3: he doesn't get involved in the weirdness that is right
Speaker 3: and what they're gonna do and that whole weird piggyback
Speaker 3: thing that they were doing. I think that's over with
Speaker 3: at this point, but I like it for all of them,
Speaker 3: but Gosmin is still my favorite out of this group.
Speaker 2: I think Gosmin's kind of a no brainer, like there
Speaker 2: could be some homer and suppression when the wins are
Speaker 2: pushing in, they're you know, kind of pushing their chips,
Speaker 2: and I think that one's a good one. Parlta is
Speaker 2: just speculative. I mean, I think it was Brasdowski LANs
Speaker 2: Brosdowski was talking about how he thinks they're gonna instantly
Speaker 2: make some changes, maybe throwing more change ups on the
Speaker 2: inside for like right handed hitters. That might make the
Speaker 2: stuff overall better. Maybe that gets like a slider going
Speaker 2: a little bit more. Luis Castillo, they had some he
Speaker 2: had a really good like last outing. I think they
Speaker 2: have some optimism that he's gonna be able to go
Speaker 2: deeper into games. Who changed. I will say this from
Speaker 2: changing your fantasy value. I think Paralta's maybe got one
Speaker 2: of the best abilities, because I'm not sure Castillo gets
Speaker 2: any better. But if Paralta changes and bounces back, there's
Speaker 2: a really good defense, a ton of a ton of
Speaker 2: offensive support there. They find a change or too. I
Speaker 2: think he could be a complete fantasy turnaround. But I
Speaker 2: think Gosman is like I would rank.
Speaker 3: I would Gosman is the highest floor by a lot, right, so,
Speaker 3: and then I would also order them freddie and then
Speaker 3: Luis Castillo all.
Speaker 2: Right, the other two Again, this is the kind of
Speaker 2: early bucket we had Luisa Rise getting traded to the
Speaker 2: Phillies for Caleb Killing and Caleb Kelly and traded to
Speaker 2: the Phillies for Ramal Marquez is an interesting young prospect.
Speaker 2: And then Joe Adell traded to the Guardians. I think
Speaker 2: those both are interesting in different ways. I think Luis
Speaker 2: Garcia to me is kind of a prime Maybe move
Speaker 2: them spot, maybe he'll be better in Philly. He's had
Speaker 2: some decent value. But I really like Jo Adell going
Speaker 2: to the Guardians. There's just a ton of like high
Speaker 2: batting average guys around him. I think there could really
Speaker 2: be the potential for a lot more RBIs And I
Speaker 2: don't know, I just think this is like a really
Speaker 2: decent spot. Maybe they can even fix some of that
Speaker 2: contact a little bit, But I think this is the
Speaker 2: perfect type of need that this team had. So I'm
Speaker 2: kind of a sell on Luisa Rise at this moment
Speaker 2: where I'm totally having Adele going to Cleveland.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a Rise is weird because like, didn't he say
Speaker 3: he doesn't want to play second.
Speaker 2: No, he says he'll only play second. Oh okay, I
Speaker 2: was flipping it in Yeah, you flipped it, yeah, because
Speaker 2: they said the word is is Bryson Scott will play third. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's going to first. And then Bryce Harper's now moving
Speaker 2: to the outfield. Yeah, which I think that's great for
Speaker 2: his fantasy value if he's gonna get some more outfield eligibility.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean doesn't Hurt will absolutely take it.
Speaker 3: There's plenty of first basement, so I'd rather get another
Speaker 3: valuable outfielder, So I like that for Harper's future value here.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think this trade really good for a
Speaker 3: Rise then. So yeah, these are great and Joe Adell
Speaker 3: with some more power in Cleveland. I mean, is that
Speaker 3: gonna get Is that gonna get weird of platoony with
Speaker 3: their outfield in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna get platoony. I mean, what
Speaker 2: do you think is gonna get platooned here? You've got
Speaker 2: the laughter, You've got maybe Kwan that's it, you know,
Speaker 2: like on how Martinez gonna be a fourth outfielder. I
Speaker 2: just don't think there's any reason they don't have. He's
Speaker 2: the number one home run hitter going to this team,
Speaker 2: hitting two thirty nine. His XBA is twenty spots higher.
Speaker 2: Ben Barreling been getting the ball out of the field
Speaker 2: really pull heavy. Though this park is better hitting as
Speaker 2: a left handed hitter. But I want to take a look.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess somebody just gets pushed off the roster
Speaker 3: here because they added Nate Low right, and then you
Speaker 3: have at first you have Manzardo Low and Hoskins, which
Speaker 3: is weird, David Fry in there, some mix of the
Speaker 3: util as well, and so the outfield gets real crowded,
Speaker 3: real fast. So because Delatta right now is the ching,
Speaker 3: but I would I would assume he goes back to
Speaker 3: the outfield if they're gonna, you know, platoon one of
Speaker 3: these power hitting first basemen. So that does that does
Speaker 3: just get I don't know, just gets a little weirder,
Speaker 3: that's all.
Speaker 2: So I pulled up ballpark factors with the rolling average
Speaker 2: over the last three years, and Cleveland's about dead middle here.
Speaker 2: But and this is gonna also you know, probably have
Speaker 2: some actual home run factors. They are fifth worst for homers,
Speaker 2: but they also just don't get a lot of homers
Speaker 2: for right handed hitters, right. But it's also just considering
Speaker 2: the overall ballpark factor when you take in the Angels
Speaker 2: were ninth best from a home run perspective, and then
Speaker 2: if you do overall ballpark factors, which probably a little
Speaker 2: bit more important, they actually were pretty close. They're relatively
Speaker 2: you know, close on that if you if you care
Speaker 2: about that stuff. For Joe Adell so, I think it's
Speaker 2: just a good spot for him, a winning place with
Speaker 2: you know, a guy like Hosey Ramirez hitting around him,
Speaker 2: just a lot more contact potential that I think he hits.
Speaker 3: They have roster resource has him at seven. No, I
Speaker 3: was gonna say five with then what's the line up?
Speaker 3: Then Kwan Ramirez the latter Bozana and then Manzarno. They
Speaker 3: have at five, but they have them platuning, you know,
Speaker 3: and switching in between him and Hoskins, and they added Low, So.
Speaker 2: No, I like Bazana hitting four, but he's a lefty,
Speaker 2: and then going to Adel at five. I think that
Speaker 2: makes sense, and then you could have Low hitting six
Speaker 2: or mis Man's art at what's that?
Speaker 3: I think I just have everybody moved down a spot here,
Speaker 3: like I probably hit Hose three, but they like him higher.
Speaker 3: They just need yeah, so I think they have him
Speaker 3: at seven here. I think between five and seven is
Speaker 3: probably somewhere because I don't think he is buying brocchio.
Speaker 2: Uh. And then they're platooning center field and catchers. So
Speaker 2: I would be shocked if he's not hitting five. If
Speaker 2: I'm being honest with you, like six at worst. Like
Speaker 2: if he was hitting seven or eight, that would be sing.
Speaker 3: It depends on how streaky is because he's super streaky,
Speaker 3: so you know, if he's hitting well, he'll probably hit high.
Speaker 3: And if he's in a slump, he's going to hit
Speaker 3: down at seven probably, but I think seven is the
Speaker 3: worst he could hit.
Speaker 2: So yeah, the next bucket, So we're gonna go to
Speaker 2: this next bucket. These were four trades that happened today
Speaker 2: that I think have there. They're not quite as big name.
Speaker 2: There's one that is a big name, but these were
Speaker 2: kind of the later trades in here. I wanted to
Speaker 2: talk about out Adli Ruchman. The Adli Ruchmand trade that
Speaker 2: seemed like a pretty dang big one. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of prospects side to talk about it. He was traded
Speaker 2: to the Boston Red Sox for five players three prospects,
Speaker 2: three of which are all in the top five according
Speaker 2: to Pipeline. Anthony Adson and Kyson Witherspoon shocked me. Also
Speaker 2: Indy Azacar. They also traded Carlos Novarees, which was very surprising.
Speaker 2: And then it's a player to be named later. All
Speaker 2: for Adli Ruchman. Reuchman has not even been close to himself.
Speaker 2: He does have another year of eligibility, though I think
Speaker 2: that's probably key. He does look like you can see
Speaker 2: here as where as I've got this up from a
Speaker 2: profile perspective, I mean, the bat seems to be kind
Speaker 2: of coming back along a little bit. His heart hit
Speaker 2: rate is the highest of his career, his strikeout rates
Speaker 2: the lowest of his career. His XBA to seventy four.
Speaker 2: That's about twenty five spots higher. He's barreling, he's got
Speaker 2: the launch angle up, he's trying to pull the ball,
Speaker 2: and now you're going to go into an environment in Boston,
Speaker 2: which I mean, let's look at ballpark factors here if
Speaker 2: I can get back to that for left handed well,
Speaker 2: I guess he's because he's a switch hitter, so I
Speaker 2: guess he could go on both sides of that. So
Speaker 2: if you look at overall ballpark factor, Baltimore is four
Speaker 2: and Boston is actually five. But what you can see
Speaker 2: here is the distribution of homers. For oh that's really
Speaker 2: interesting though. Look at this, Baltimore is one. Oh no, no,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, this is both let me do, let me
Speaker 2: do individual So for right handed hitters, let's see Baltimore
Speaker 2: is a ninety nine, so they are going to be
Speaker 2: bottom where the hell are They're like middle of the pack,
Speaker 2: They're like sixteen, and Boston is actually twenty three. So
Speaker 2: for right handed hitters, that looks a little bit worse
Speaker 2: from a home run perspective. For left handed hitters, Boston,
Speaker 2: Baltimore is actually number four because that's where they really strive,
Speaker 2: and Boston number seven, So it's kind of similar, I
Speaker 2: guess similar from a from a ballpark factor if you
Speaker 2: care about that. But he's going to be hitting between
Speaker 2: like Sadanna and will You or bray You, and I think,
Speaker 2: just like I guess from a both perspective, didn't it?
Speaker 2: Didn't it favor Baltimore a little bit? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I kind of like Boston, but they're next to each other,
Speaker 2: so overall factor solid, I like where I like the
Speaker 2: landing spot. They get a extra year of control on him.
Speaker 2: I just like him in Boston a whole lot. I
Speaker 2: think he can be a top ten catcher rest of
Speaker 2: the way. But do you have any thoughts on how
Speaker 2: much longer is he's on the IL right now? Right?
Speaker 2: I don't believe.
Speaker 3: So you know he's on the IL wrisk inflammation, it
Speaker 3: says here on Russ' resource. So I wonder where he's
Speaker 3: gonna hit when he comes back, or if he just
Speaker 3: comes back tomorrow whatever they activate him. Uh, I'm I'm
Speaker 3: assuming six is Anthony Siegeler. Really you're starting second basement
Speaker 3: for the Red Sox now, yeah, I mean I'm assuming
Speaker 3: him in Soguard Yeah, okay, Yeah, I mean I like
Speaker 3: him moving Boston Boston, I think is you know, just
Speaker 3: get him out of Baltimore. Whatever was happening there was
Speaker 3: not working this season. Uh don't doesn't have enormous splits
Speaker 3: from what I was seeing. Uh, lefty verse righty is fine.
Speaker 3: So I think he's gonna be okay there. Did he
Speaker 3: have a big like was he hitting at like crap
Speaker 3: at home or anything?
Speaker 2: Here? I can away. I can pull it up because
Speaker 2: it's on screen splits.
Speaker 3: He was at home twenty nine away so but still
Speaker 3: good ballpacked ballpark factors as you mentioned. So yeah, I
Speaker 3: just like him getting out of Baltimore. It felt like
Speaker 3: stuff was weird there for him.
Speaker 2: So I actually think it'd be really interesting to hit.
Speaker 2: I mean, he has thrived if you look here hitting
Speaker 2: two ninety six in the five hole, but I think
Speaker 2: he'd be like two or three would be really great,
Speaker 2: have like Sadanna hitting right around him, and like I
Speaker 2: said Willyard before, like I'd like I'd love to see
Speaker 2: that Wilson Contreras maybe hits four or five when healthy.
Speaker 2: So I just think this is a this is a
Speaker 2: pretty it is a pretty good destination. I'm kind of
Speaker 2: down for this trade. The big pictures that were traded.
Speaker 2: Robbie Ray was traded to San Diego. Also Casey Myies
Speaker 2: were going to add that in those were two big trades.
Speaker 2: Jose Soriano was traded to the Blue Jays, that was
Speaker 2: Argentomala trade, and Foster Griffin was traded to the Guardians.
Speaker 2: The biggest return was actually Casey Mize. Casey Mize ended
Speaker 2: up netting really shocked to me, netted Cash Mayfield, which
Speaker 2: that is a big return. That was the number one picture,
Speaker 2: probably the number one prospect in the Padre system, and
Speaker 2: they traded it for Casey Myies, who does have I
Speaker 2: believe one more year of control after this. It's a
Speaker 2: two seventy average nine to nine whip this year. His
Speaker 2: expected here was great. He was giving up less barreled
Speaker 2: contact twenty five percent k percentage, and I think the
Speaker 2: Casey my side, the Diamondbacks were heavily rumored around him,
Speaker 2: but they clearly were not able to do it because
Speaker 2: if you're giving no one was giving up a cash
Speaker 2: Mayfield for that. That's a huge git. And Preller does that,
Speaker 2: but probably did a good job getting two rotation pieces
Speaker 2: to add to a team that desperately needed. If they're
Speaker 2: going to compete, and Casey Mike has had some homer
Speaker 2: issues before that looks like it could be mitigated in
Speaker 2: San Diego. It's super hitter friendly. Also, Robbie Ray, even
Speaker 2: though he has a couple of those like weird like moments,
Speaker 2: you know, where things can kind of fall apart, he's
Speaker 2: just been consistently good. He's got a three point zero
Speaker 2: eight ERA expected is over four. His walks and strikeouts
Speaker 2: don't match up well, but he's going from a hitter
Speaker 2: friend the environment to another hitter frien the environment. So
Speaker 2: I thought these were super impressive. I think Casey Miz
Speaker 2: and Robbie Ray are in the upper tier of like
Speaker 2: fantasy value. But I'm more excited about Casey Mice now
Speaker 2: in San Diego.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you mentioned, just cutting the Homers down by
Speaker 3: going to San Diego is huge and obviously a good
Speaker 3: get for the Tigers. So I really like that deal.
Speaker 3: You know, Jose Soriano the Blue Jays, I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, it was like the first six weeks, seven weeks,
Speaker 3: Jose Soreano was just cruising and then he kind of
Speaker 3: hit a brick wall.
Speaker 2: So Pilo Garbage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was surprised on the return that they got
Speaker 3: back for them, And I was also surprised away, like
Speaker 3: you got Argentimala back for Jose Soriano.
Speaker 2: I was just surprised by that, like and what I
Speaker 2: am still like what like like that that was a
Speaker 2: great return or a bad return?
Speaker 3: Bad return or good return for the Angels, Like I
Speaker 3: just okay, yeah, I thought Soriano was going to be
Speaker 3: traded for less because look at the hall for Foster Griffin.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know these guys as well as
Speaker 3: you do, but uh, it felt like the Foster Griffin
Speaker 3: trade was a little light.
Speaker 2: I don't know, the Foster Griffin one was totally like no, see,
Speaker 2: I think the Soriano one makes sense because Soriano has
Speaker 2: a couple of years of control, has high strikeouts but
Speaker 2: bad walk issues.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you can trade him out, great, but he
Speaker 3: is like it's it was a six week stretch only
Speaker 3: for Sorio.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 2: No, I totally agree, but yeah, yeah. An interesting note again,
Speaker 2: this is Lance who always talks about I think this
Speaker 2: is Lance had said that Mike Maddocks specifically has this
Speaker 2: ability where he wants players that there are a lot
Speaker 2: of forcing fastballs that will probably decrease in Toronto. They
Speaker 2: will want him to change that. And I was just
Speaker 2: as a test case, Like look at Dylan Cees. Dylan
Speaker 2: Seze was a similar pitcher high K's High Walks. Was
Speaker 2: able to find it. Maybe they can go the similar
Speaker 2: route and they're going to change his pitch mix a
Speaker 2: little bit. I might be interested in Sorano next year.
Speaker 2: I actually think that one is kind of similar in that,
Speaker 2: like it's a it's a good trade overall. They got
Speaker 2: like a really good young shortstop to build around. Maybe
Speaker 2: it enables him to trade as z Achnetto in the
Speaker 2: off season, and they gave away a controllable piece for
Speaker 2: Toronto for the future. It just it felt weird in
Speaker 2: general because they traded Kevin Gosman, So I was like, what,
Speaker 2: like why are you trading Kevin Gosman. But the Foster
Speaker 2: Griffin one, that's the one I actually couldn't come to
Speaker 2: terms with, to be honest with you, he is a rental.
Speaker 2: So he is a rental. But like I guess I'm looking.
Speaker 2: I sometimes had that diamondback lends on. I'm so impressed
Speaker 2: with Foster Griffin three point zero six ERA one point
Speaker 2: zero seven Whip this year. I don't think the k's
Speaker 2: tell the best story, but twenty two p k percentage,
Speaker 2: five percent walk rate, and I thought the pitch mix
Speaker 2: has been really fascinating. You can see he's throwing like
Speaker 2: seven different pitches. None of the top four have like
Speaker 2: an over two thirty batting average against their's strong whiffs.
Speaker 2: He's just said, yeah, you mentioned this. Going over and
Speaker 2: playing wherever it was career or Japan, he had like
Speaker 2: built up, you know, lots more shapes and having more pitches.
Speaker 2: You had to be a lot more of a of
Speaker 2: a movement pitcher to get strikeouts. I look at the
Speaker 2: return and I'm like, the Diamondbacks couldn't have offered something
Speaker 2: like that, Like this isn't anything that impressive. The Diamondbacks
Speaker 2: traded Daniel Egan and a player to be named for
Speaker 2: large noopart like we couldn't have pulled out like maybe
Speaker 2: a low end minded leaguer and two pitchers to do.
Speaker 2: I thought the return for Foster Griffin even in that
Speaker 2: is it a true rental? Is he a full on
Speaker 2: free agent next year? Yeah? Free. I just thought that
Speaker 2: would have been a really good guy to go and
Speaker 2: go after. And that's why I really think the Guardians
Speaker 2: had a the great trade deadline. I loved the idea
Speaker 2: of getting a Dell, and I love the idea of
Speaker 2: them going out and picking up Foster Griffin to put
Speaker 2: in that rotation with freaking Gavin Williams, who, by the way,
Speaker 2: five straight games outings with ten strikeouts or more. That's insane,
Speaker 2: Like this is the perfect type of pitcher to get,
Speaker 2: So the guard The Guardians made these moves that seem
Speaker 2: kind of like weird and off, but they totally work
Speaker 2: for the team context. Yeah, I did that.
Speaker 3: You're right, and they're in the last wildcard spot right now,
Speaker 3: so you know, got to turn it on. They're still
Speaker 3: in the fight for the division, right they're not that
Speaker 3: far behind the White Sox, but I think the Nationals
Speaker 3: a week ago off the division. Uh no, the White
Speaker 3: Sox too. Uh the Guards are the Guards are?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right there, three games back from the White
Speaker 2: Sox right now.
Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of teams in the wildcard
Speaker 3: hunt here for the al two. The Twins are a
Speaker 3: game behind, the Rangers a game and a half, Mariners too,
Speaker 3: Orioles two and a half, Tigers two and a half,
Speaker 3: A bunch of these teams all just sold off by
Speaker 3: I was all surprised that Rangers didn't do much. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the Nationals they've lost five strade. I don't know if
Speaker 3: a week ago they're doing these trades to sell because
Speaker 3: they were, you know, right up in a wildcard spot.
Speaker 3: And now the four and a half back after dropping
Speaker 3: five straight. So I get good on Cleveland for going
Speaker 3: after Foster Griffin. I think that's a nice move for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. I really like that move, and
Speaker 2: that was specifically. I think the story on TO one
Speaker 2: happened a little bit earlier, but Rutchman, Robbie Ray, Connor
Speaker 2: Griff and Casey Maiz that all happened. Those were kind
Speaker 2: of the big if I used leading off as like
Speaker 2: a timeline, that was like the big from leading off
Speaker 2: until the trade deadland the five hours, those were like
Speaker 2: the big names that were moved. But there were a
Speaker 2: lot of other moves. So going down into this next bucket,
Speaker 2: you had Liam Hicks and I'm gonna just make like
Speaker 2: little stops at some of these trades. Liam Hicks was
Speaker 2: traded to the Rays for a couple of minor leaguers.
Speaker 2: Marcelo Mayer was traded to the Giants for Eric Miller.
Speaker 2: That one was one of the shocks. I gotta be
Speaker 2: honest with you. We'll talk about that in a second. Where
Speaker 2: did I go here? Lars Nubar has mentioned was traded
Speaker 2: to our d Backs for Daniel Egan. There was Ruben Santana.
Speaker 2: Was it Sandro Santana? I thought it was Ruben Santana
Speaker 2: I saw and a player to be named later.
Speaker 3: I saw Ruben Santana first, and then I saw Sandro Santana.
Speaker 2: I don't even know Sandra Santana is, but it would
Speaker 2: make sense they'd want another picture. Dalton Varsha was traded
Speaker 2: to the Astros and the Blue Jays got Spencer Arraghetti.
Speaker 2: That's actually a really good price for a rental. And
Speaker 2: then Taylor Ward was traded to Seattle for a handful
Speaker 2: of like you know, bullpen relief pictures. That that was
Speaker 2: the theme, by the way. It was just these like
Speaker 2: bullpenn future arms that every team was trading for their
Speaker 2: minor league system. Teams are just looking for depth, for
Speaker 2: guys that could potentially get out there soon. But let's
Speaker 2: start with the mayor thing. I am. Regardless of how
Speaker 2: unsuccessful Marcella mayor has been, which it is not hard
Speaker 2: to argue that he has been very successful to twenty
Speaker 2: eight last year to twenty this year. The profile looks bad,
Speaker 2: really good bad speed. But I mean, look at everything else,
Speaker 2: just if you want to savaunt it for a second,
Speaker 2: crappy barrel, crappy hard hit expected is worse. He's not
Speaker 2: slugging the ball, you know. I mean, I guess there's
Speaker 2: like some decent like he doesn't k and he walks
Speaker 2: a little bit, but I mean he couldn't pull the
Speaker 2: ball in the air nine point eight percent. That sucked.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess his own contact. I mean it was
Speaker 2: right in. It was a little above average eighty five
Speaker 2: point two, but he wasn't doing anything with it. There
Speaker 2: was no quality of contact. I think that's the point.
Speaker 2: But he's twenty three years old and they gave up
Speaker 2: on him. And I said this on the live stream,
Speaker 2: and I'll just throw this to you, man, it's not
Speaker 2: apples to apples. Well, this feels a little Dansby Swanson
Speaker 2: for Shelby Miller, like in that they traded Marcela Mayer
Speaker 2: gave up on him for Eric Miller, who Eric Miller
Speaker 2: is a solid relief pitcher, But like you Gota, you've
Speaker 2: got to trade a like long term, twenty three year
Speaker 2: old shortstop with control for I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: pretty nice looking profile, So you got to trade Mayor
Speaker 2: for this for a left handed relief Pittre. It just
Speaker 2: doesn't add up to me, and I'm worried the Red
Speaker 2: Sox are going to feel the repercussions of a screw
Speaker 2: up of a trade long term, definitely.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is one of those trades that you
Speaker 3: look back in like six years and you're like, can
Speaker 3: you believe, like, like, didn't Jordan and Alvarez get trade
Speaker 3: for Josh Fields or something?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a little different because like those guys were,
Speaker 2: and Danceby was as well. These were like Jordan like low.
Speaker 2: They were low in the minor league system. The same
Speaker 2: thing happened in Fernando Tatis junior when he was traded
Speaker 2: for oh god, who was it, James Shields? No, James Shields.
Speaker 2: Mayor did make it to the majors and failed, And
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of leading a little bit to
Speaker 2: it that he hadn't grown. He had two years of
Speaker 2: kind of failure where sometimes there's like there's a couple.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it's one hundred percent, but
Speaker 2: there's a couple of players that got traded today that
Speaker 2: have a little bit of that like vibe of you
Speaker 2: might regret this in five years that you traded Jonil
Speaker 2: Hernandez san Diego. You might regret that you traded Alexander
Speaker 2: Freos Brewers. But this is different because Mayor made it
Speaker 2: to the majors.
Speaker 3: Would you have felt the same way if the DBAK
Speaker 3: trade Jordan Lawler for a reliever like this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would have. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I think you know, Jordan Lawler has been up
Speaker 3: and you know, either not had success at the dish
Speaker 3: or not been able to stay on the field. So
Speaker 3: I think people are getting frustrated with him too. I
Speaker 3: think that's kind of what we see with Marcella Mayer here.
Speaker 3: It's like they just go, Okay, we need a left
Speaker 3: handed pitcher. This guy's not doing anything for us, so
Speaker 3: traded it was just twenty three I do. I agree
Speaker 3: with you. I think it's a short sighted trade, but
Speaker 3: it's a you know, fix this bullpen, which is the
Speaker 3: theme of today.
Speaker 2: It's just part of the critical side. It's like, who's
Speaker 2: the guy that gave the contract extension to Christian Campbell failure.
Speaker 2: Who are the guys that they trade out, Kyle Harrison succeeding,
Speaker 2: get rid of Rafael Devers succeeding. You know, it's like
Speaker 2: there's there's something wrong and this this might be fine.
Speaker 2: You know, Marcel Mayer may be a huge bust, but
Speaker 2: he's twenty three year olds and three years old and
Speaker 2: has what like, let me go back to him, like
Speaker 2: how many career at bats? Does three hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: at bats? Like hits half of one full season. They
Speaker 2: didn't develop him, and that's I think the critical side
Speaker 2: of what is going on with They did not and
Speaker 2: they do not develop these guys properly. Everything seems to
Speaker 2: be jacked up and wired wrong. But they get to
Speaker 2: make this move in favor of saying, well, we want
Speaker 2: to win now, and Eric Miller gets to go into
Speaker 2: a bullpen, which, by the way, I will tell you this, obviously,
Speaker 2: Mason Miller is the best closer in baseball I have.
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of guys. I don't know
Speaker 2: how you feel about this. I don't know. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of guys where when you see them come out,
Speaker 2: you're like list, game's over. Mason Miller has that. I
Speaker 2: think the Roldest Chapman has that. I see a Roldest
Speaker 2: Chapman come out and I'm like, game's done. It's over,
Speaker 2: and there's not that many players out there. And this
Speaker 2: is the weirdest stat Did you know that Brian Beao
Speaker 2: was one of the league's worst starting pitchers. I don't
Speaker 2: have the exact stats. Someone pulled this up. He was
Speaker 2: statistically one of like the worst. He's been statistically one
Speaker 2: of the best relievers since moved into a relief role.
Speaker 2: So now you've got, like, you've got a solid bullpen,
Speaker 2: and now you just added like this demon of a
Speaker 2: lefty and Eric Miller who is not gonna get saves,
Speaker 2: but he gets to go in, you know, with the
Speaker 2: with Whitlock and the rest of the group. So you've
Speaker 2: got kind of a monster chap and Whitlock, Miller and Bayo. Now, yeah,
Speaker 2: you've got a monster bullpen. You've got a really good
Speaker 2: starting rotation that maybe could get Garrett Crochet back, probably not.
Speaker 2: And then now you've added Adli Rutchman. Like I see
Speaker 2: the storyline of kind of what you're doing. It's just
Speaker 2: it does It's a high cost. I gave up Marcella,
Speaker 2: Mayer and Conley early, you know, and they have like
Speaker 2: not much to speak for it. So I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot of critical side to it. But I agree
Speaker 2: that the Red Sox they're they're over.
Speaker 3: They're pricing themselves out of a good return by trading
Speaker 3: these guys right, specifically guys that have a long term
Speaker 3: Like do they get to keep.
Speaker 2: Eric Miller for a long time? Is he going a
Speaker 2: long deal? That's a really good question. Are you looking? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm looking. It's twenty thirty, So they get him through
Speaker 2: twenty twenty nine. Yeah, that that does kind of because
Speaker 2: he's got some closing ability, Like if they I guess
Speaker 2: that does change a little bit if they feel that
Speaker 2: he could be a closer in the future. How many
Speaker 2: more years of Chapman do they have? You know? A
Speaker 2: funny thing happen in our our three sport dynasty. It's
Speaker 2: a sixteen teamer. I'm I'm like with the worst this year.
Speaker 2: I've had injuries and my team has just constructurally not
Speaker 2: been really great. But I've got a bunch of big
Speaker 2: pieces like this or not, I don't think I'm a
Speaker 2: far off team. I think because I was just winning.
Speaker 2: Like two years ago, I had four different teams in
Speaker 2: our league trying to get Chapman all low ball offers,
Speaker 2: and I decided not to do it because I think
Speaker 2: Chapman's coming back next year and he's gonna be right
Speaker 2: back in. He's gonna be one of the best closes
Speaker 2: in baseball. And everybody wanted me to trade him off
Speaker 2: because it's like, hey, you just want to you know,
Speaker 2: you just want to get a piece for Chapman. It's like,
Speaker 2: I don't think he's retiring next year. I think he's
Speaker 2: going to be the closer for this team and great again.
Speaker 2: And if I go down this road, maybe i'll trade
Speaker 2: him next year. But I'm not trading him for scraps
Speaker 2: for this season. So that's my approach with it. But
Speaker 2: long term, Eric Miller might be an option. If Chapman's
Speaker 2: only got like one more year left.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, could turn out to be a good trade.
Speaker 3: But when you're trading for relievers, so many of them
Speaker 3: flame out so fast and then your prospect is with
Speaker 3: somebody else now, So we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, the other ones like Hicks, I think it's fine.
Speaker 2: The only problem is Hicks could go into some super
Speaker 2: rotation with the Rays, but he was kind of just
Speaker 2: doing a little bit of that. I think New Bar
Speaker 2: is in a really interesting spot. I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: they do have like just a lot of like outfielders
Speaker 2: in generally are taking him space. But I don't think
Speaker 2: newpar even needs to be I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: if you've looked at New Bar's profile lately. I have, Yeah,
Speaker 2: as I saw you talking about it, pretty two thirty four,
Speaker 2: but you've got, you know, nine barrel, fifty one percent
Speaker 2: hard hit rate, average exit velocity. Looks good. He ain't chasing,
Speaker 2: he ain't with and he's squaring the crap out of
Speaker 2: the ball and he needs to pull the ball a
Speaker 2: little bit more. But hopefully this is another one. Let's
Speaker 2: go look and see if there's any Not that it
Speaker 2: really matters, but let's see if there's any ballpark factors
Speaker 2: for this lefty going from Saint Louis to Arizona. So
Speaker 2: overall ballpark factor Diamondbacks are twelve. Saint Louis was third
Speaker 2: worst in baseball overall. I'd be the best huge factory
Speaker 2: there if we look at home run factors. Let's see
Speaker 2: if there's any difference Diamondbacks tractor. Well, the Cardinals are
Speaker 2: the worst in Major League Baseball. I didn't realize that
Speaker 2: Diamondbacks are not that much better. But it's also factored
Speaker 2: a little bit, a little bit about the roster for
Speaker 2: the Cardinals too. Yeah, definitely might be. But overallf you
Speaker 2: just want to look at overall ballpark factors. I mean,
Speaker 2: Diamondbacks being like middle of the pack and Cardinals being
Speaker 2: one of the absolute worst is like a you know,
Speaker 2: higher offensive profile for a guy that is, you know,
Speaker 2: just he's barreling the craw or he's hitting the crap
Speaker 2: out of the ball right now really hard. He's gonna
Speaker 2: get to go play with Corbyn Carroll. And by the way,
Speaker 2: he has another year of control, which I love if
Speaker 2: there's baseball. The only thing that's going to suck about
Speaker 2: that is if I guess, if they hold out the
Speaker 2: whole season, they haven't registered a full season, so then
Speaker 2: those guys would be controllable for another season or whatever.
Speaker 2: But I guess I look at any of these guys
Speaker 2: that extra year of control and I go oh, And
Speaker 2: then I go, oh god, I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 3: You know that all those contracts getting pushed back an
Speaker 3: extra year if there is no baseball.
Speaker 2: But what's even kind of worse though, is imagine if
Speaker 2: they hold out for like two months and they have
Speaker 2: a shortened season, Well, then you're only going to get
Speaker 2: this extra year of a guy in some shortened season.
Speaker 2: That kind of blows a little bit. Yeah, that but
Speaker 2: really does. Yeah, but I don't ward, I think is
Speaker 2: a worse spot. Var shows indifferent I like new bar
Speaker 2: like Hicks.
Speaker 3: By the way, the Cardinals are twenty fourth in the
Speaker 3: BIGS and Homers with one hundred and thirteen, t Backs
Speaker 3: twenty ninth, one hundred and seven only and better ballpark
Speaker 3: factor overall, so hopefully large dead last and Homer's one
Speaker 3: hundred and one. Yeah, I mean, if you think about
Speaker 3: the Yelich hasn't really popped off, like who's the big
Speaker 3: home run hitter, Cherio doesn't really pop I think they
Speaker 3: are just a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of like eight of doubles hitters. But yeah, just a
Speaker 2: bunch of corporate and strike out thirteen with Miserowski A right, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see. But the Diamonbacks didn't you know, they didn't
Speaker 2: go in after what they needed to do, which was
Speaker 2: get a first baseman, one of the all time worst
Speaker 2: of all time, and.
Speaker 3: They got But now Tim Tawa can play first see Wels.
Speaker 3: It's like getting two guys right, get an outfielder to
Speaker 3: cover a spot that you need or a DH and
Speaker 3: then you can move Tim tawater first win, win, double win.
Speaker 2: I would like to see Lordis do some first. I
Speaker 2: feel like he's done that before, Like just go put
Speaker 2: lords over at first, do anything to get him some
Speaker 2: playing time. Then your outfield as what it's Carol, who
Speaker 2: am I forgetting? It's it's uh Waldschmidt, Carol and Nootbar
Speaker 2: Like I'd love that you don't get all the rest
Speaker 2: of the guys to do it, all right, So that's
Speaker 2: that bucket. The next bucket, there are some hitters. Brittan
Speaker 2: Doyle went to the White Sox for a couple of prospects.
Speaker 2: Nate Lowe went to the Guardians. That wasn't much of
Speaker 2: a trade. Josh Smith went to the Blue Jays. Bo
Speaker 2: Naylor was traded to the Brewers. And then there were
Speaker 2: a bunch of other pitching ones in this little bucket.
Speaker 2: Dustin May was traded to the Brewers. That was a
Speaker 2: really big I think they also traded you said for
Speaker 2: Jojo Mera, but I think it's May and Ramero went
Speaker 2: to the Brewers. So they got some bullpen help and
Speaker 2: a starting pitcher, but they gave up two sky rockety
Speaker 2: prospects and Alexander Frias and Josiah Ragsday, which was surprising.
Speaker 2: Clay Holmes. The Cubs got Clay Holmes and Braxton Garrett.
Speaker 2: They also got Ryan Zephyr Jan. If you look at Holmes,
Speaker 2: Garrett and Zephyr Jan, great return. They got rotation they
Speaker 2: got I think, if you look at it, they actually
Speaker 2: traded for three new rotation pieces, Holmes, Braxton, and Gossman
Speaker 2: and then Zephyr Gen could be a closer, but dude,
Speaker 2: they traded off Mois's Ballastero's Jonathan Long, Jefferson Rojas, and
Speaker 2: they traded away Mark McGuire's kid and Mason McGuire not
Speaker 2: much of a thing. But Jonathan Long, Moyes's Ballisterios, and
Speaker 2: Jefferson Rojas were all seen as pieces that were going
Speaker 2: to help the Cubs, and they traded them off. For
Speaker 2: all these pieces, it makes them better, It makes them better.
Speaker 2: I think this is a plus if play homes can
Speaker 2: be healthy. I like all these pictures in her Zephyrgen
Speaker 2: might be a speculative closer option as well, but they
Speaker 2: definitely traded out a haul.
Speaker 3: I think Polancy is coming back somewhat soon, so it's
Speaker 3: still gonna be Polancy, I think, as soon as he
Speaker 3: comes back.
Speaker 2: I mean, if he's healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But but I mean, this bullpen is now much
Speaker 3: much better. As you mentioned, you don't have to go
Speaker 3: with Jacob Webber, Trent Thornton closing Noor Thelbar or whoever.
Speaker 3: You can move Zephyr Jan in there or you and
Speaker 3: then Polency comes back and the rotation is deep. They've
Speaker 3: got six guys on here right now, yeah, and Imanaga, Peterson,
Speaker 3: Colin Ray and Gossman.
Speaker 2: So yeah, No, I think the rotation thing is like
Speaker 2: that's the game changer for them, Like this makes them
Speaker 2: more competitive, especially when you take a look at the Brewers,
Speaker 2: who have obviously been super successful, but they practically made
Speaker 2: no moves. They did trade for Antonio Sensitel, which does
Speaker 2: help their bullpen, but very little else you had. Let's
Speaker 2: see Jeff Hoffman going to the Twins and I guess
Speaker 2: I forgot about this and I buried this. This belongs
Speaker 2: in a much higher tier. But maybe the biggest winner
Speaker 2: I think of the trade deadline was Luke Weaver going
Speaker 2: to the Pittsburgh Pirates. So this would be to me,
Speaker 2: this is in the lines of I should have brought
Speaker 2: this up to the Luisa rise Joydell range because he
Speaker 2: goes from a setup man in New York and he
Speaker 2: I believe he's going to be the closer. Arico definitely
Speaker 2: pushed back, thinking they might still go to Sodo. They
Speaker 2: did trade for Kirby Yates. This is just the guy
Speaker 2: they traded a pretty big prospect in Sammy Stuffura, but
Speaker 2: also he's a knockout guy. Twenty six, twenty seven percent
Speaker 2: k percentage low walk, Goodie Ray. Here's the only negative,
Speaker 2: and I talked myself into a box live on that
Speaker 2: live stream, is that the Pittsburgh Pirates have definitely had
Speaker 2: spots where they've blown these games. In the seventh or
Speaker 2: eighth they didn't even get a chance to close it out.
Speaker 2: Oh so, Fireman, and Luke Weaver is one of the
Speaker 2: better guys balls be in a Fireman. He did it
Speaker 2: in New York. I think he's done it with Arizona.
Speaker 2: He's done it in a lot of different places. And
Speaker 2: the fireman is the guy that comes in the highest
Speaker 2: leverage situation. That could be the seventh, eighth, or the ninth.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm wrong about him being a top ten
Speaker 2: closer rest of season if that's the case. But I
Speaker 2: think he's the best reliever in the bullpen. I think
Speaker 2: he gets the majority of saves and I am buying
Speaker 2: on him right now, and I think he's one of
Speaker 2: the biggest winners.
Speaker 3: Well, I think to improve that, which I think, you
Speaker 3: know is why Luke Weaver is still going to be
Speaker 3: my biggest riser here. They added Kirby Yates, They added
Speaker 3: the car as well from the Marlins, So like, I
Speaker 3: think there's enough and devall they trade four a couple
Speaker 3: of days ago, they got four bullpen pieces. This is
Speaker 3: what I said in the chat on leading off. I'm like,
Speaker 3: we couldn't trade for one of these four dudes.
Speaker 2: Well, the val didn't immediately give up a homer in
Speaker 2: his first game back, But your point stance, yeah, they
Speaker 2: went they got four new guys, right, is the any
Speaker 2: guy would be the closer for the diamondback, Yes, any
Speaker 2: of them would be.
Speaker 3: And you know, just I think those other three guys
Speaker 3: de'vall Yates and Bakr will all, you know, keep it
Speaker 3: so that Luke Weaver doesn't have to have that fireman drop. Now,
Speaker 3: you know, if the vall gives up another bomb and
Speaker 3: all of that and he's useless, then sure that they
Speaker 3: could go back to using Weaver. I if this becomes
Speaker 3: more of a problem, but I think the idea is.
Speaker 2: Weaver's the closer.
Speaker 3: The rest of these guys figure it out so that
Speaker 3: they don't have to be fireman that fireman that much.
Speaker 2: They don't want a whole brigade here, the final crew
Speaker 2: of trades. We've got to Vall into the Pirates has
Speaker 2: mentioned Jamison Taian to the Blue Jays after he was
Speaker 2: like Dfaid, Dan Kramer went to the Twins. Some of
Speaker 2: these were a couple of days ago. Lane Thomas went
Speaker 2: to the Braves. Is a little bit of help. Chris
Speaker 2: Mubich went to the Dodgers. That was late in the
Speaker 2: draft process. Probably gonna be a good bullpen piece. Victor
Speaker 2: Vadnik to the Marlins could be a closer. Actually, quite
Speaker 2: a few guys will talk about in a second. They
Speaker 2: could have closing spots. Hu Oscar Brosa Band went to
Speaker 2: the White Sox, Brent Sutter was traded to the Braves,
Speaker 2: by the way for Nacho Alvarez, not Cho Alvarez going
Speaker 2: to the Angels. Brooks Railey went to the Phillies. I
Speaker 2: mentioned Sanata Tella. Joey bart was to the White Sox,
Speaker 2: so they got a little bit more catching help. Tyler
Speaker 2: Wells to the Rays, Kirby Gates of the Pirates. You
Speaker 2: mentioned the car and Caleb Ferguson to the Cardinals. I
Speaker 2: believe that's the majority of the trade deadline moves. Talking
Speaker 2: about bullpen for a second, Not only do you have
Speaker 2: Luke Weaver who looks like he can jump in and
Speaker 2: be a closer right out the gates. Jeff Hoffman was
Speaker 2: traded to the Twins. He could take over there. Braso
Speaker 2: band is maybe more of a setup guy, but there's
Speaker 2: always a potential because they get weird with Grant Taylor
Speaker 2: sometimes and Victor Vodnik. Victor Vadnick could get some safe
Speaker 2: opportunities because the Marlins have kind of been.
Speaker 3: Fairbanks has had a bad year, dude. He now, to
Speaker 3: his credit, he's been much better. Are recently four saves
Speaker 3: in a row without giving any up. A lot of
Speaker 3: pitches on that one on Sunday twenty one pitches and
Speaker 3: his ERA is still up over six. But I think
Speaker 3: Vodnik is like, Okay, look, which, by the way, not
Speaker 3: his last game, but the game before that he did.
Speaker 2: Blow a save.
Speaker 3: Vodnick, but he has experience, you know, he has experience
Speaker 3: in the back end of the bullpen. So if Fairbanks
Speaker 3: starts to suck again, you could just put Vodnick in
Speaker 3: that spot.
Speaker 2: So it's crazy, all right, So winners and losers, you
Speaker 2: got two. Let's do like two winners and two lose.
Speaker 2: I think the I think, you know, I think the
Speaker 2: losers are kind of easy. I think the losers are
Speaker 2: the Brewers at number one in the breves. That's gonna
Speaker 2: be mine. I think. I want to there's a little
Speaker 2: part of me that wanted to say the Yankees because
Speaker 2: I could thought they could have done more, but that's
Speaker 2: not really fair. I thought the Mariners were really weird
Speaker 2: and like, what the hell were they doing? You know?
Speaker 2: Why did they go get Ward and they sold off Castille.
Speaker 3: Hading two starters? I think is nice for them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, but but they're on the losers though. The Yeah,
Speaker 2: the losers, So I didn't understand what they were doing
Speaker 2: so to me, I think the Brewers and the Braves
Speaker 2: are the two that just like jump out to me
Speaker 2: as the most obvious losers. But I don't know if
Speaker 2: you feel there's someone different, I think, yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's hard to not say the Brewers, right,
Speaker 3: because not only did you not get to Trek's Google,
Speaker 3: you also let the Dodgers get him. So I think
Speaker 3: the Brewers are probably a fairly large loser. And then
Speaker 3: after that, I probably like, what did the Al West do?
Speaker 3: The Astros didn't do much. They got var Show, the
Speaker 3: bar Show, added a piece here and there.
Speaker 2: I was kind of surprised, like no one pushed.
Speaker 3: Their chips in for this division, Like if you're the Mariners,
Speaker 3: I guess they got Taylor Ward too. They did a
Speaker 3: couple moves more than the Astros. I guess I would
Speaker 3: say the Astros and the Diamondbacks probably not adding any Bullpenn.
Speaker 2: No, that's I actually got to point out, that's a
Speaker 2: great call. The Rangers were the team. That's another one.
Speaker 2: They were telling everybody every report.
Speaker 3: The Rangers are gonna sell off all the pieces five
Speaker 3: in a row, going in no, no, no, that.
Speaker 2: Was but you didn't get let me finish, like, look
Speaker 2: at the what they We're gonna train everybody. It's gonna
Speaker 2: be Jacob de Grom, it's gonna be Evaldi, it's gonna
Speaker 2: be They didn't do anything. They didn't sell, they didn't buy.
Speaker 2: The Astros didn't really do anything. The Mariners, what were
Speaker 2: they even doing that? I didn't even ever comprehend that.
Speaker 2: Let me look at this. I think that is the
Speaker 2: one division that is probably the least act of let's
Speaker 2: see the East had.
Speaker 3: Why didn't they trade netto like rebuild the system, sync
Speaker 3: to the bottom and come back up when they a's
Speaker 3: move pieces, I guess they don't have many pieces to
Speaker 3: move well.
Speaker 2: They were also like, yeah, I know, I see what
Speaker 2: you're saying, but no, you you nailed that. The America
Speaker 2: the Ale West is maybe the thing. They didn't do
Speaker 2: anything and everything's up for grab. That's weird. That's a
Speaker 2: super Braves are also like, you have eight games, you
Speaker 2: have an eight game lead. Yeah, that's why the Phillies
Speaker 2: made some moves, right, like maybe move one move. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I thought they were ridiculous to not get starting pitching help.
Speaker 2: So I think AL West was probably the biggest disappointment
Speaker 2: then I would say the NL East because you did
Speaker 2: have sellers and you didn't really have the only the
Speaker 2: Phillies were buyers, So those kind of standout. What about
Speaker 2: on wins then, though, for you, like what was the
Speaker 2: if you could pick two teams that you really like
Speaker 2: the moves that they made.
Speaker 3: I think the Padres getting two pieces back is great,
Speaker 3: and I really like what the Pirates did with the bullpen,
Speaker 3: like just just shore up that back end, like they're
Speaker 3: you know, they're not there yet, but they are within
Speaker 3: striking distance of a wildcard spot the Pirates, so you
Speaker 3: know they're never in this opportunity post All Star Break?
Speaker 3: How many how many games are they out of the
Speaker 3: wild cut? Who's at the Bucks Pirates? The Pirates, they are.
Speaker 3: They're fourteen and a half Division three and a half
Speaker 3: games back, so it's not impossible. But I mean you
Speaker 3: do have the Podreys, Marlins, Pirates, Cardinals, Nationals, and Reds
Speaker 3: all within five and a half games of the Phillies.
Speaker 2: Well, the Diamondbacks one was so critical, remember I think
Speaker 2: I mentioned it. It was that's if the Pirates would
Speaker 2: have won that final game, they would have owned the
Speaker 2: series against the Diamondbacks, and that would have been a
Speaker 2: you know, like if they were to have gotten to
Speaker 2: a point where they were fighting against the Diamondbacks for
Speaker 2: a wild card spot, that would have been critical. I
Speaker 2: agree with you on the padres to be different. I
Speaker 2: think the Cubs really retooling their entire rotation and just
Speaker 2: selling off those pieces that weren't doing anything. I thought
Speaker 2: that was impressive. And I'm gonna say the Guardians. I
Speaker 2: thought the Guardians did a good job of like finding
Speaker 2: the different spots. They found a power bat and then
Speaker 2: they found a starting pitcher to go in the rotation.
Speaker 2: That's what I want to see. I want to see
Speaker 2: some diversity in what these teams do. Not that I
Speaker 2: don't like, you know, the Cubs getting three straight starting pitchers,
Speaker 2: but if you've got a team that's really good, this
Speaker 2: is the Brewers thing to me. You had a team
Speaker 2: that's really good, but like, could you justifiably shore up
Speaker 2: four spots? Yes? Like, do you trust an Uribe and
Speaker 2: McGill full on Not really, I guess they got sinsitela.
Speaker 2: Do you trust the back end of the rotation? You shouldn't.
Speaker 2: They didn't really get anything. And then could you use
Speaker 2: a little bit more depth as far as your hitters go, yeah,
Speaker 2: you probably could have a power bat. You said the
Speaker 2: Brewers were like almost last in the league and whole
Speaker 2: or last. They didn't improve on their bats, they didn't
Speaker 2: improve on their rotation, and they just brought into piece
Speaker 2: in the bullpen. I think the Brewers are the number one.
Speaker 2: What are you doing that? They're my biggest losers for sure.
Speaker 2: Now fantasy wins, I had mentioned my top three or
Speaker 2: I think I had four on leading off, but I
Speaker 2: thought Luke Weaver was number one. That was my favorite
Speaker 2: fantasy plus number two was Casey Myz. I love that.
Speaker 2: And this is something I didn't mention, but Joshua Bias
Speaker 2: might be one of the biggest beneficiaries. Oh yes, you
Speaker 2: are being traded. There aren't a ton like I guess
Speaker 2: that's a missing piece of what we did here. If
Speaker 2: you look at like all the major guys that were traded,
Speaker 2: and then you go, Okay, who are some prospects that
Speaker 2: could benefit now that some of these guys are out.
Speaker 2: I think Joshua Bias is the number one player because
Speaker 2: he was just blocked before and now with Nubar out
Speaker 2: of there, it's a clear path for him. And then
Speaker 2: I think with the Tigers. Maybe like a Jackson job
Speaker 2: might be able to come up. I'm just not sure
Speaker 2: if there's anybody else. Oh, Cole Kerrig is another beneficiary
Speaker 2: because oh yeah, yeah, yeah, because of Britain Doyle being traded.
Speaker 2: But I would say Joshua Bias is like my number
Speaker 2: three because I think that's a guy that it clearly
Speaker 2: has space now to come up. So that's my top three.
Speaker 2: Do you have any extra additions?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm looking at josh Bias's numbers, thirty two bombs
Speaker 3: and seventeen's wives.
Speaker 2: Good. Well, look at the strikeout right though, that's been
Speaker 2: the problem. What is it?
Speaker 3: I didn't see it thirty it's actually thirty percent. He
Speaker 3: has lowered it, I guess a little bit. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean Weaver number one. Like you said, I think
Speaker 3: Casey Maies is number two. I like Gossman going to
Speaker 3: the Cubs. I thought that was a good move. I
Speaker 3: like it Dell depending on where he hits, like we
Speaker 3: talked about in that Guardian's lineup as well. So I
Speaker 3: think those are the ones that I probably like the most.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My next level is like I like Foster Griffin,
Speaker 2: I like Adele and I like Kelly Oramos, like Kelly
Speaker 2: Oramos hitting in New York, especially if he could not
Speaker 2: play too much platoon. I mean, did they really need
Speaker 2: to even think about platooning in with Dominguez and stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know if that's even the plan,
Speaker 2: by the way, but I would assume you would like
Speaker 2: strong and short side platoon those guys. But I just
Speaker 2: want to see Heley Oramos eat there, so I think
Speaker 2: that could be a big beneficiary, and I think that's
Speaker 2: going to do it for the episode. There's some other
Speaker 2: stuff that happened this weekend. Shout out to Max Clark
Speaker 2: for being an absolute g You would Kyle Freelan with
Speaker 2: a complete game was pretty impressive. Yeah, did you know?
Speaker 2: That was the first complete game for the Rockies since
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two? Who did the last one? Probably Kyle
Speaker 2: fre I guess it was his first career. I don't
Speaker 2: know who did the last one, that's a good question.
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two was the last?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm honestly surprised it was that recent. I was like,
Speaker 2: if if you would have asked me that, I've been like, you,
Speaker 2: Baldo Jez.
Speaker 3: Noticed that you Baldo Jimenez is exactly who I was thinking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, only Colorado pitchers that can even think of. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean there's some definitely some stuff that happened over
Speaker 2: the weekend. But you know what, we can save that
Speaker 2: for the later in the week episode where we do
Speaker 2: some of the breakdowns. We also get to look at
Speaker 2: some of the repercussions of these guys that believe Scooble
Speaker 2: I think he's pitching on Tuesday his first outing. I
Speaker 2: believe Luis Castill's first outing is on Thursday. So we're
Speaker 2: in the three or four day marker where we're going
Speaker 2: to see all these trade guys starting to pop up
Speaker 2: and any inherent.
Speaker 3: Prospects that get called up, like a Joshua Bias can't
Speaker 3: wait to watch to hate watch the Dodgers in the
Speaker 3: playoffs again.
Speaker 2: So I did say, and I think everyone would just
Speaker 2: fully agree with this. This is the biggest If you
Speaker 2: don't win the World Series, you're a disappointment you've ever
Speaker 2: seen in your life. Yes, they can't get to the
Speaker 2: World Series and play a really good competitive two games
Speaker 2: or three, you know, or like win two or three
Speaker 2: and then lose. They have to win the whole thing.
Speaker 2: And there's literally no other range like the Diamondbacks ever,
Speaker 2: was like, oh, good job you got to the World
Speaker 2: Series and blah blah blah, No, you have to win
Speaker 2: it all. You might need to sweep the team too.
Speaker 2: He might not be able to go to seven.
Speaker 3: Uh I would I would just win the World Series
Speaker 3: like you won it in seven last year. You know,
Speaker 3: just win the World Series if you get there. I
Speaker 3: don't care how many games it goes to. But I'll
Speaker 3: say this, which would be a bigger disappointment when the
Speaker 3: Lakers lost when they added Karl Malone and GP and everybody,
Speaker 3: uh to the Pistons or this, this is worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this would be the all time. I mean, dude,
Speaker 2: Otani Freeman, Bets, Kyle Tucker, Yamamoto, Snell, Trek Schouoble, Like,
Speaker 2: it's just it's a no Edwin Diaz. We forget they
Speaker 2: brought in Edwin Diaz. Dude, you see that stat since
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, did you hear who the five best
Speaker 2: eras are? And it's not Diline Dieline, Dieline, Dieline and
Speaker 2: Dieline the five best eras since I think I can
Speaker 2: remember them since twenty twenty two, you ready.
Speaker 3: Yamamoto Tani, Schooble, and Eric Scubale. One Nell schemes, two schemes. Okay, Yamamoto,
Speaker 3: Otani and Snell.
Speaker 2: Those are the five. Four of the if I best
Speaker 2: theras of the last four years come from the four
Speaker 2: Dodgers in this rotation. It is they have to win
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