Speaker 1: All show, not even known, not even been recording.
Speaker 2: It's like, well, I guess we're not doing one now, yea,
And then I would have never had a chance to
this super sweet intro. I say something like, hey guys,
I'm Brando and I'm here with Ryan and today one
episode of Commander Cookout.
Speaker 1: Podcast, Episode five forty nine B, we're gonna talk about
some extra special random magic stuff.
Speaker 3: Now, hey Ryan, we're back yet another We're awind adventure.
Speaker 4: I do good?
Speaker 1: What is going down? A whole bunch is going down?
The uh quality of the audio on the intro, the
kind of cards we have to display to the people today,
Oh no ah shit. So we had some technical issues
via the one of the big fang companies, not gonna
say which one done intercepted the email that had all
the pictures in it and then deleted it.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have to wait for episode five point
fifty proper for next week. We figured, since we haven't
talked about any new magic shit, we're gonna give it.
Speaker 1: The time of day. But before we do any.
Speaker 2: Of that stuff, you have to thank your official business
Daddy's Fusion Gaming online dot com.
Speaker 1: They are your host for all your gaming, your host host,
your whome me, homes star host.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they host you.
Speaker 1: You come into the store, they say, hey, what are
you doing here? We're closed?
Speaker 2: And then you say, Ryan and Brando sent me. And
then they go, well, you're gonna have to leave and
come back after open. And then you just grab them
by the front of their shirt and yell Circi owner
shot in their face.
Speaker 1: And not only will they then give you whatever you want, tables, games, dice,
all that stuff, playmats give you fucking money off of
that shit.
Speaker 4: Yep, I forget how much? Five percent?
Speaker 1: That's a good number.
Speaker 4: Five percent. And I just this week actually was perusing
the the goods and wares at Fusion Gaming Online dot com.
Speaker 1: No shit, I got a tablecloth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I got a bunch of play mats that act
as a tablecloth. Nice. I was looking at nasgouls from
the Lord of the Ring set like thirty bucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty bucks now between thirty and one hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, nonfoil printings. That's why if you get them from
Fusion Gaming Online dot Com like I was gonna, yeah,
use CCO Nation promo code. A smart move. You get
them for less because you're gonna need nine of them, probably.
Speaker 1: That's true, and you want to get one of each art, probably,
So you know.
Speaker 4: Do you think anybody rocks a Nasgoul deck with nine
of the same guy? I don't know, man, But like
you know how people people do all matt Chi samey
basics and stuff. Of course, maybe you just do that
with Nasguul, Like maybe if you have a favorite Nasguol art.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's harder to get one of each
get nine of one?
Speaker 4: Yes? Isn't that the same thing? No?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's way easier to find one of something,
But you have to find one of something.
Speaker 4: Nine times, I suppose.
Speaker 2: But then if you find nine of the same one,
maybe that's less common. I don't know, you know, I
don't know if any one of them is any rarer
than the others. Actually, I'm inputting my binders into like stuff,
and I noticed that the whichever has the highest.
Speaker 4: Collector number, I don't you probably know the better than me.
Speaker 2: But the one that has the last collector number, like
Nazgoul number nine, the foils are worth like eighty bucks
as opposed to the rest of them, they are like
thirty or thirty two. Yeah, So I'm not sure what's
going on there, but we're gonna.
Speaker 4: Talk a little bit about some well i'll call it
nasgoul adjacent stuff today when we look at some of
the Hobbit stuff, are we gonna we don't have any pictures.
We don't have any pictures, but uh, you don't have
to do we have mind pictures, mind pictures. Well, I
was gonna say you you would see that we don't
have pictures that you couldn't see if you're watching on YouTube,
which it should be. There, it is, there, it is,
And you would get a nickname if you became a
new patron.
Speaker 1: Which you should do.
Speaker 4: Do. Yeah, good one. Yeah, there we go, patreon dot
com slash CCEO podcast. We have a new patron who
needs a nickname. That's one of the benefits.
Speaker 1: Speaking of patrons, I'm actually in talks with uh in
cahoots of Pete and Keel to see if one of
them wants to come up and like talk Star Trek
with us later as as we're gonna unravel throughout the
course of the next little while. Man, do why not
give a shit about any of these upcomings?
Speaker 4: I don't care about Star Wars track. Yeah, sure, somebody's
just actually shut the show off because I made that mistake.
You know, it will be fun and I'm not saying
we're gonna do this.
Speaker 1: But maybe we should.
Speaker 4: It would be cool if we did. Yeah, I've actually
had a couple of the CEO dude bros offer to
come on and talk Star Trek too. What if we
did like an education session for your good friend Ryan
and Uncle Brando with a bunch of fucking nerds who
know about Star Trek. Okay, it'd be cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Do you think that, like we could trick them into
bringing beer? I bet we could.
Speaker 1: We probably just say they came. Man, if you guys
bring some beer.
Speaker 4: That'd be cool. Yeah, speaking of beer, we'll bring beer
to big shout out and thank you to Pi La
Bones Brunko. Second coolest thing to come out of Regina,
Saskatchewan after Pete and Keel. That's what my hat is from.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it is too.
Speaker 4: You'd see it if you're watching on YouTube, which you
should be. You'd also see this bag on the table.
Speaker 1: Sack if you will. It's not a sack, it's a bag.
Speaker 4: It's very, very hot in the Dufferin Avenue Media Network
Studio Network studio. There's lights, there's cameras, producers. Scary is
in a night like a like a like a bathrobe,
but it's open releasing the heat. Yes, there's lots of
heat coming out. So I thought to honor the heat
and to honor our good friends at Pile of Bones
bruin comb, I would fucking show up clutch when it counts. Fuck. Yeah.
So I have this bag. It's full of ice and beer.
Now it's just full of ice because we're gonna put
the beer into our bodies and then we are going
to be full of the beer. Beer.
Speaker 1: That's my second favorite thing, to be full of pacos.
Speaker 4: Oh, we're a.
Speaker 1: Shark attack flavored ice cream?
Speaker 4: Do you like to think shark attack flavored ice cream? Well,
i'm drinking what is this? I'm Prairie Pills by a
Pile of Bones.
Speaker 1: Me too.
Speaker 4: I hope I didn't pop the mic too much when
I said that. Ah, so we're here. We've got a
patron to think.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Nickname, nickname. I never know how to say this name. Okay,
is it Elias Elias Elias l ass. There's got to
be an l e.
Speaker 1: Ass l a ass.
Speaker 4: Yeah, lazy as a lazy ass Brendel Brendall the last.
Speaker 1: Name, lazy ass Brendall. Yeah, well that's girls think, well
that's a that's like a monster. But that's Grendel, Grendel, Grendel,
lazy ass Grendel, lazy, asked Grendel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well what was Grendel's mom's name? This is
from Beowulf, right, Yeah, it was Grendel's mom or like
the dad of Grendel.
Speaker 5: I got my phone out right here, Grendels mom, Grendel's
parents parents, Then we'll get both looking at Grendel.
Speaker 4: Have his mom and dad do not have specific names? Oh,
just Grendel's mom. Do you imagine she's like in his
cave or wherever he lives. She's just like telling him
get off the coach, go clean up around here. This
place is a pig. It's a monster.
Speaker 1: Sty it's a big pig styck.
Speaker 4: Go and kill some guys in the mead hall. Yeah,
like a monster. Yeah, a lazy ass Grendel.
Speaker 1: Except yeah, lazy ass Grendel doesn't kill nobody, doesn't clean
his room, doesn't even kill people at the meat.
Speaker 4: Hall, probably doesn't even kill people in games of magic.
Fuck he's in the right spot if he wants to
come to Commander cookout and not win games of magic.
Speaker 1: You want to hear about winning a game of magic?
Speaker 4: I do. So.
Speaker 2: I'm playing at dh M last night a couple of
kids I've never played with before, actual kids. One of
them just got his driver's license, and then his little
brother was also there.
Speaker 4: Oh, just introduce him to God. Yes, but you know how.
Speaker 1: Hard I had to work. You know what I did?
Using nor in the Wary, I played through two cards
that prevented all damaged dealt to him and.
Speaker 2: Made it so like you don't have to discard a
card at the beginning of your upkeep and then it
gives you shroud and you can't take fucking damage and
everything sucks.
Speaker 1: Two of them at the same time.
Speaker 4: Why because they're jerks.
Speaker 2: So I fought through both of those and life gain
and I had a possibility storm and a confusion in
the ranks and play at the same time. And you
know what they said after I was finished, dumpsterring their
entire ass.
Speaker 4: I hate you and everyone.
Speaker 2: I'm playing into the liquid garbage behind the dumpster. And
what they said, Man, that deck is super fun.
Speaker 4: Oh well, that's good. Yeah, that's good. Yes that warn
Noorn was in the top ten of them. I think
it was when we did Red he's in the top
ten and now too, he's in both. Yeah man, Yeah,
So okay, Well here's the thing. We were doing episode
five nine B because the Boros cards when we emailed
them to producer Gary for him to load him into
like the produced the production software. Shit, they're gone. I
didn't work. The dog ate their homework, which is is
I'm sure an excuse that both of you guys used
in the fucking eighties when you were in school at Okay, well,
the dog ate our homework. So we're gonna conclude the
arc of Evolution next week. Yeah. We thought we would
say thank you and fu to Elias Grendel's asshole, and
we would talk a little bit about some new magic
cards ish gross.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're skipping over Marvel because them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very specifically, I didn't really do any Airbender stuff.
I didn't do any Spider Man stuff, and I didn't
do any Marvel stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I did lots of Ninja Turtle stuff, as
people know. I way I did.
Speaker 4: I did some Ninja Turtle stuff for and I am
actually super excited for some of the stuff I saw
from Magic Con Amsterdam started today. Right, Why do you think.
Speaker 1: They've spoiled so much stuff?
Speaker 4: Because there's showcases, there's shows, there's thousands of people all
in one place.
Speaker 1: And they got it in Vegas and they didn't spoil
like the entire year's worth of sets.
Speaker 4: Well, maybe you know what I mean, maybe Vegas came
at the wrong time this year. They sure show off
lots of stuff. They do secret layers, and it was
Vegas two years ago or Vegas three years ago, whatever
it was that they showed off the Lord of the
Rings holiday bundles right with all the alternate arts, and
those collector holiday booster packs now are over eleven hundred
US dollars. What in the mother ass? I hope where
I store my booster pack collection never gets broken into
because it just became very very expensive to replace. Yeah,
so I saw some shit. I want to talk about.
Speaker 1: What is the other set that we missed? We missed
too very specifically? There was Marvel? Was there not another one?
Speaker 2: Was there not another set that We're just like, yeah,
I don't care, let's just not even bother.
Speaker 4: Uh No, they're oh, oh strick saving stric Saven. That's
the way back back to school. Yeah back yeah, who cares? Yeah?
And now coming up in twenty twenty seven, there's a
set that is called Noctis. It's an underwater set.
Speaker 1: What Yeah, he is the main character from the Final
Fantasy sixteen or some shit.
Speaker 4: You play Magic Underwater. Each booster pack comes with a
snorkel or a scuba mask only in the collector packs,
of course, but snorkel in the regular packs, and you
play Underwater single time use only because they're using the
same card stock.
Speaker 6: Isn't Nactus they spoiled in uh March of the Machine
where they remember they had all the different planes they
went to, and Nactus was like the underwater world that's
actually really small too, right, Oh?
Speaker 1: I think I remember that. Like the picture of the
plane was like all these crazy sea monsters and shit
in like a coral reef. But then when you really
actually looked at it, the coral reef was just a
dude's foot. It was stepping into this like crazy ocean.
And if you know what I'm talking about, check it out.
Let us know in the comments. Maybe I'm combining two
different planes that they had gone to.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Seem to recall that. But anyway, so we're going to
some ocean we go.
Speaker 2: We're gonna see murphok and underwater goblins with fucking globe
helmets on.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, octopuses is if sea serpents need more goddamn help. Yea,
Coma will come back. Coma two point zero, you get
three coils and instead of.
Speaker 4: Two, Comba two yeah, coomb two. Yeah. Sure, So we're
going to knock this in February. Okay, we are. I'm
gonna come back to the June one because that's the
one that I'm most excited about. It masters the universe. No,
we're gonna talk about that though. Okay, we're going to Zalfear.
That's where Teffree was originally from, the place that got
phased out. Remember Teffrey's protection, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
during the whole time spiral. Yeah yeah, so we're going there.
We of course, at the end of this year have
uh what's called the fucking switchy Planar Chaos two, Planer
Chaos two. I was gonna call it Time Spiral two,
but Planar Chaos two. Yeah, with like red snapcast Mage
and White Lilian and Red and Johnny as if that
didn't exist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a second to Johnny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. We're going to Zolfear but in June next June,
June of twenty seven, so like a year from now, Jesus,
a year from now is we're going to fucking Camagawa
Titan Breach and boy howdy this one. This is a
universes within which which we are have been on the
record of liking because oh yeah, that's a good word
for it, advocating for because we want more universes within stuff.
Speaker 2: Even we have decided that the universes beyond maybe you
can fuck off a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, not all the way.
Speaker 1: Did you hear though?
Speaker 4: What was it?
Speaker 1: Rosewater said? You know, if people don't like him, stop
buying them.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have, bro, But all of the.
Speaker 4: New people that come in because of those ips are
sort of a false positive, you know what I mean. Yeah,
it's like doing a piss test at work when you
have an incident and somebody spitting your piss and it's
now it's positive. It's the whole thing.
Speaker 2: A guy at work, not a guy that I work with,
but a dude that came into the shop a little
while ago kind of explained how what has bros doing
with like the collector thing, and how they can continue
to make more money every year while selling less stuff
to less people, and how like that business model works
and it's the same thing that like WWE's doing and
a whole bunch of other businesses are doing. And the
way that he explained it makes perfect sense. It's like, yes,
I can fully understand that, but it's also incredibly.
Speaker 1: Sad because it's basically designed to make people not buy
your game.
Speaker 4: It's like it's like the food industry in Canada. It's
more expensive and I can't buy as much of it,
but Soby's always makes more money than me. Yeah. Fuck,
I guess we're just uh, we're all fucked. We have
Camagawa Titan breach coming up, and essentially Korea is invading Kamagawa,
and that sounds fucking awesome. Give me all the kaijus,
give me all the huge mechs flying and fighting. Give
me give me Pacific Rim vers versus Godzilla. Now you
know you know what. Give me all that. You know
what's gonna come along with that. I can virtually guarantee it.
Speaker 2: If they're still around Power Rangers Gundam Rangers, because that's
what Power Rangers did. They had their robots that went together,
that fought the big monster, that redroot puls.
Speaker 4: That would grow with their Yes, yes, yes, that's what we're.
Speaker 2: Gonna probably see a crossover with there would be my guest,
Power Rangers are still a thing, right.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I don't don't. I don't know, but I
feel like bills in the mail there WATSI? Yeah, dude, okay,
magic all the buddies putty and you punch them and
they go tang. It's like what the and then they
disappear at that little yellow ring around them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You punch them in the chest and they blow
up like the worst spot for a week.
Speaker 4: Point.
Speaker 1: Hey, these super Buddies are indestructible. They can't be beat.
And the punch them in the chest and they blow up.
It's like a ship. Ship at least put the thing
on their backs, so you gotta work for it. I
can punch.
Speaker 2: Somebody in the chest, especially when their stands is like woo,
it's moving up and down, so I can't get it.
Speaker 4: Who's the engineer that signed off on these.
Speaker 1: Where was cooking those putties? And the ovens An idiots.
Speaker 4: Yeah, these puddies come with.
Speaker 7: Warranty gold Uh, no warranty on putties anything. Okay, Magic
Cons Okay, two rivers Destois.
Speaker 4: That's French for Detroit. That's actually French for Detroit too. Detoi.
You want to go to fucking Detois with me? I
don't know. You want to go to Detoin in February?
Speaker 1: You ever see Barbarian.
Speaker 4: Because like.
Speaker 1: You ever see RoboCup.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know, man, with what
I've heard about what's going on down there Detroit, Let's.
Speaker 4: Go to Detroit. That's an interesting we can watch a
fucking lions game. We could do Magic Con is that.
Speaker 2: When they released lions from the zoo into the slums
that used to be Detroit's and watch the lions eat
the people.
Speaker 1: That are trying to live in the houses with the windows.
Speaker 4: And that's that's Rome eight hundred years ago. I was
also there. Yeah, you've seen it firsthand. Magic Con Detroit,
February twenty six to twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool.
Speaker 4: We could rent a car and drive back to Windsor
then go north to thunder Bay and see the Terry
Fox statue and where Joel used to live. I don't
know why we would want to do that. Yeah, I
don't know why I said that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron mcnuts told me all about thunder Bay and
it sounds just like Big Pa and that's why they
kind of run Thunderbay.
Speaker 4: Pah. Yeah, God, can you imagine Magic Con Pa.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't bud any cards do it.
Speaker 4: I would go to that. I'd that shit. Yeah, fucking
go up to the lake after. Yeah. Yeah, okay, Magic
Con keep this May fourteen to sixteen. Magic Con Tokyo.
We're going to that. Oh fuck card for Tokyo. I
really want to go to that. I want to go
to that. Pretty cool to go to that. It costs
less than going to Disneyland, cost lesson going to Toronto.
Speaker 1: Probably that's actually probably true.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably true.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh, Tokyo definitely bucket list city. Yeah, I was, I guess.
Let us let us know in the discord. Do you
want to fucking do a CEO experience Tokyo? Does Laura
need to make a Tokyo channel for planning? Producer Gary,
you want to go to Tokyo?
Speaker 1: Well, Amsterdam is happening right.
Speaker 4: Now, yes, And also Amsterdam is happening again December third
to fifth, twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 1: They couldn't pick it, Like, is there no other cities
in Europe?
Speaker 4: No, here's the thing. Do you remember when we met
with that guy that wats the employee in the Las
Vegas airport and he said, actually, magic cons are so
big now we're limited to where we can have them
globally because the buildings aren't big enough. And Amsterdam is
one of the only places in Europe with a convention
center big enough to house like one hundred thousand people
coming through the doors.
Speaker 1: I suppose because they don't have the same glot will
sit right of events, so like it's not like, oh,
here's the one on the west side of the country,
the east side.
Speaker 4: Of the country precisely, here's.
Speaker 1: The one that you can go to unless you want
to fly over the fucking Atlantic Ocean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and hey, people in the nation, do shout out
to all the people that have come from overseas if
you're interested in coming to the Las Vegas CEO experience
in twenty twenty seven from overseas or anywhere domestically or
abroad under the sea. Maybe under the sea, yeah, maybe.
Sebastian the Crab and Ursula, the Ox, the Post Lady Ursula,
my dog Arsla, your dog Legs. August twenty seven to
twenty nine. That's right around your.
Speaker 1: Birth That's right, that's the day after my birthday.
Speaker 8: There you go, So what we're doing so so old?
He's got three birthdays the day after my birthday. Yeah,
I guess that we're doing Smitty's born that year month.
Speaker 1: So were you me?
Speaker 4: Aiden? Aiden is Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think Gaiden's in there too. There's got to be
a few people that there's a bunch of the dude bros.
Speaker 4: Yeah. We do an August thing every year. Last year
it was You're in Saskatoon the Face to Face Games Saskatoon,
which still I think is my favorite magic event we've
ever done. We got to do it at home and
many of my favorite people came and it was our birthdays,
so we went up for suppers. We had parking lot beers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I won my first trophy ever.
Speaker 4: Yes, Smitty made that AI generated video where I kissed
Keel on the lips. Yes, God, I wish that wasn't AI.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was an AIV.
Speaker 4: I thought that was real. Oh I wish, I wish
it's real on the Internet.
Speaker 1: It's real.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very true. Yeah. So Also, since we're just bullshitting
about magic bullshit, Okay, we have a whopping April ninth,
August six, and November nineteen unannounced universes beyond yay, I
don't care.
Speaker 2: One of them is Marvel, So there'll be an X
Men one because it's going to tie into the movie
that's coming out that year.
Speaker 4: Cool.
Speaker 1: Uh. Maybe he Man because there's a he Man Secret Lair,
Secret Layer coming out, So maybe he'll get a set.
Speaker 4: Probably not, but that would be cool. Although I'm not
sure that Mattel would give Hasbro that much money. Uh,
maybe it's the other way around. What else can I fuck? Dudes?
All fear looks so cool?
Speaker 2: Listen, At this point, none of these companies are being
paid by Hasbro to use their ips. These things are
commercials for something. All of them are commercials for something.
I promise you there's a new Lord of the Rings
property movie, TV series, or video game that's gonna come
out around the time The Hobbits released, I promise.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's almost like how they figured this Infinity War super
duper Marvel thing, just as like Phase five of the
MCU kicks off. I'm surprising.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ring Rings of Power comes out this fall. Is
that is that? That's probably it?
Speaker 1: There it is, man, there's the tie in. They're literal commercials.
They're doing Hasbro is doing what they did.
Speaker 2: When I was a little kid in the eighties and
everybody got mad at them for it. They're making cartoons
to sell kid to sell stuff to kids. Now they're
making shit to sell the fucking show.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like the opposite.
Speaker 4: And we're adults. We have more money, so we can
afford three hundred dollars booster boxes now instead of a
twenty four dollars plastic toy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And the twenty four dollars plastic toys are sixty
box now, and you're lucky. If you can get a
booster box with three hundred dollars, you're.
Speaker 1: The lucky as shit. If you can find him. Oh
unless there's Spider Man.
Speaker 4: Can I can? I? Can I tell you another one?
Speaker 1: I'm going nuts here?
Speaker 4: You are? You are? I'm going to I'm looking at
all the pictures in the in the new card spoiler's
thread on our discord. Great great benefit to being a
patron is if you don't want to like go and
find you just come here and you get to see everything.
Speaker 1: And we got people that are on the ball.
Speaker 4: Mostly mostly it's Laura and I'll kill her. No Chiller Miller.
Speaker 2: I appreciate them both very much. I cauld see Lauren
a good long while. Yeah, killer, no killer chiller, Piller
Miller too.
Speaker 4: I want to see him. Actually, there's lots of people
in here discussing today because it was a big news day.
Come to Tokyo with us, listen to this. I know,
I know you're not a huge fan of this. Okay,
but it's okay. Tell me how you feel about this, Okay, Okay,
tell me how you feel about this.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is gonna be really disappointed the gay whatever
there comes.
Speaker 4: Mystery booster.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't care, Okay, I have no feelings.
Speaker 4: Commander Edition, fuck that, fuck that and ly shit. Do
you do you remember the boys Joven and Chandler from
Like Homelands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, check it out. They got a card together drinking beers.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many of those cards are gonna
have our faces photoshopping on of them?
Speaker 4: Oh? Fuck, they're drinking beers. Human Rogue three three for
Red Red Red two red two. That's almost so three
three for five. That's close to a magic card that
I would play three three for five. Whenever an artifact
is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, put a
number of plus one plus one counters equal to that
artifact's man of value on Joven and Chandler. So they
just fuck shit up and get bigger man.
Speaker 1: That's just shitty jaws. It's just shitty jaws.
Speaker 4: Wait, there's more. Okay, red red red tap gain control
of target artifact until end of turn. Untap it it
gains haste until end of turn. Okay, you don't hate that.
I don't hate that. You don't hate that. You know
what I love. I love two.
Speaker 1: Bros drinking drinking beer that fu up and get giant
and then steal things. Yes, they get drunk and steal
and get better.
Speaker 4: It's boys making food tokens, crushing them and then smashing
the cans on their head and throwing them in the
garbage and getting plus one plus ones. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Well, not for food token soaks and don't have a
man of value.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, you're right, damn. Some foods do, like candy
trail and trail of breadcrumbs and ser ginger. Yeah, and
and there's some pizza food tokens from Turtles and Eldrain
had a bunch. Okay, yeah, yeah, we can crush some
foods and just pretend they're beers. That's true, all right? Fine? Ay?
Is there any foods that are drinks? I just know
in the comments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure there is.
Speaker 4: There's got to be foods that are drinks.
Speaker 1: If anybody and then if anybody's gonna know that, you guys, you.
Speaker 4: Guys, smoothies is smoothies is smoothie a magic card that
sounds like it should be in Turtles, it will be
now smoothie. Yeah, bills in the malwantsee. Yeah, so Knoctus,
we got zalfear.
Speaker 1: Wasn't fear like a like a it's an island right.
Speaker 4: No, No, it was just part of like domin area.
Speaker 1: It was an island. It wasn't zalfeer like an island.
And then he phased his island. Ah, maybe the lower
guys are the fourth hostes. Yes, they'll be able to
tell us.
Speaker 2: But I was in my head conceptually, I always thought
that it was like an island that was populated mainly
by magic researchers and stuff, and then so it's just
strict saven.
Speaker 4: No, Zalfear was like, we're Teffru's from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like an island of mages that do all
sorts of magic research.
Speaker 4: And no, no, you're that's hilario. Okay, yeah, zalfear and
I don't want to sound ignorant or like uneducated or
insane instead of zolf Fear back in the nineties when
it was invented, So maybe that has something to do
with it. Is like is like South Africa. It's like
the Sengetti. It's like the place like everybody from there's black.
Speaker 1: It's very with Okay, actually that might be kind of neat.
Speaker 4: I think it looks cool, man. I saw some of
the concept arts or some of like the promotional stuff
that they released. Maybe it's like cool animals and it
looks good. The Camagwa stuff looks Cama Neon Dynasty esque
but with big monsters, so you can't hate that. The
Zalfeer stuff looks good. The see look at are they
coming back with mutate? Are we mutating again? I hope?
Speaker 1: So if we're gonna do I Corey and they don't
do mutate, I'm gonna shit in somebody cereal, you know what.
Speaker 4: I hope they don't do. I hope that they don't
do like I hope they don't do new Tate and
change it into something else. So now we have Mutate
and new Tate.
Speaker 1: I hope that like when they did when they had
the werewolves that flipped over, then they had like day
and Night.
Speaker 4: And they change. Yeah they changed it.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's the.
Speaker 4: Same but just a little different. Yeah. Fuck that. Yeah,
I hope that none of that bullshit had on exact
Mutant had me Christ Brando, Fuck, get together. It's hard,
It's it's difficult, I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what about what's coming up this year? Is
there anything else coming up this year? We're talking about
twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: Seven, and we got a he Man's Secret Layer that's
gonna be sick fucking bills into mail watsy.
Speaker 2: I yeah, we've been screaming about that for a year
back in the old studio at the radio station.
Speaker 1: You're saying how awesome that would be. Yeah, yep, So
do it and take it good or I will that
I will be.
Speaker 4: Of course, the Hobbit's coming up, which I'm very excited about. Sure,
not as excited about The Hobbit as the Lord of
the Rings. And I know, I'm I'm I always tout
as being like this huge Tolkien fan. Yeah it's and
this is okay. I know that this is okay. The
Hobbit not really a book I like that much. It's
it's written in a very different style for a different audience,
almost in a different time period.
Speaker 1: It is in a different time and.
Speaker 4: It doesn't have the gravity toss that Tolkien's other writing
has because it was kind of just a thing that
he wrote, not not part of the greater and it
is part of the greater world. I know. I'm trying
to cover all my basis, so the Tolkien fans don't
jump on me in discord or or or in the comments,
but give me a minute.
Speaker 2: Watch this, check this out. Let me get him to
get off a year back and jump on mine. It's
you know what happens to everybody before the beginning of
the movie, because you run into all their fucking corpses
in Lord of the Rings. So who gives a shit
about these fucking people? And the only reason they exist
is to get the Lord, is to get the Ring
out of the Dragon's hoard. An ondo Bilable is like
neck chain. That's the whole reason that that book exists.
Nothing else in it matters. We that's a that's a
literary device's work. Also, it should have been one movie.
Speaker 4: Two at the very most. Should it could have been
too easy, could have been one three hour movie. Yeah,
that would have been fine. Actually, I think it would
have been better.
Speaker 1: Yeah a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, it should have been one movie. Okay. I
like the what is it? Hobbit, Commander Hawk, h O C.
We we got some no sour on the Dark Lord.
We got a reprint of the One Ring, thank god,
because that card's fucking ludicrous expensive. We've got a tom Bomb,
but it'll reprint. I'm excited about all that stuff, and
I'm excited about and I wish they did this. I
wish that they did a card for every chapter name
so I could chronologically have all of the chapters. And
the first card on the Scryfall preview right now and
I'm trying to see it's card number. Well, this one's
a widescreen, so it's number two eighty nine. But I
wish that card number one in the set was an
Unexpected Party, because that's the name of the first chapter
of the Hobbit of the Hobbit, So there's a card
name that I hope I expect and I hope to
see more chapter name cards so I can keep kind
of getting cards or collecting cards that tell the story
for me, sure, which I think is really cool. Such
a nerd. Yeah, but people people like to do that, right,
And remember remember in Calgary if probably not, but do
you remember in Calgary we opened up so many Avatar boosters,
and the people who knew about Avatar were so excited
to say, this is the part or or I remember,
this is one of my favorite parts. I'm so happy
they did this. We had Aiden on to do that show. Yeah, exactly.
And you've had your cup of tea with Final Fantasy.
I got mine, I get mine kind of again with
the Hobbit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why Final Fantasy and Ninja Turtle and soon maybe
he Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird that we're looking forward to a thing because.
Speaker 4: Here's another one. Riddle's in the dark? Is that chapter five?
Chapter five of the Hobbit?
Speaker 1: Why would I know that? That's pretty fucking sweet, like
old book cover style things.
Speaker 4: Second, Yeah, they're they're super cool. I'm kind of fan boying. Now,
so let's move off the fan boying and was something
that we don't.
Speaker 1: Give a shit about, please star trash. We were worried
it was this gonna be people sitting in chairs the
set and so far, isn't it. Yeah, you know, I
do have, I do have, and I like Star Trek.
For the record, I appreciate it, and I really enjoy
like the classic series and the next generation some Deep
Space nine I'll fuck with from time to time. I
really enjoyed the series.
Speaker 4: I think it's campy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I like it.
Speaker 4: Oh, okay is that a thing? Because I was thinking
about this the other day. Absolutely, is it supposed.
Speaker 1: To be the original one?
Speaker 4: Yes? Okay, yes, og.
Speaker 1: Star Trek is absolutely like a sixties camp movie or
camp show, just like Batman, and people can get mad
at me all they want for that.
Speaker 4: Bro, I made that exact comparison. Yeah, like the other day, Yeah, okay, absolutely, yeah, okay,
I actually like that. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Nobody looks at things the other those are super serious.
The next generation took itself a little bit more seriously.
Speaker 4: I think that's what my dad watched, was that in
the nineties. Okay, but like not so serious it wasn't fun. Yeah,
and then from there they kind of.
Speaker 1: Lost the plot a little bit.
Speaker 2: Deep Space nine was similar to the Next Generation, and
then past that, it's kind of like they started taking
themselves a little bit more seriously and that's when I kind.
Speaker 4: Of fell off.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate the property.
Speaker 2: I think that it's going to make a really cool
magic the gathering set that people are really going to enjoy.
Speaker 1: It's just not my shit, And there's been so much
not my ship in a row.
Speaker 4: Oh you know my shit. That Space cadet Ipa by
Pile of Bones, that's the ship.
Speaker 1: Like they hit us with. For me, at least, my
favorite set ever that like in Turtles that dethroned Final
Fantasy less than a year after it came out, geez
where it's like, get the gotta here, this.
Speaker 4: Is my ship.
Speaker 1: I've got the whole set, I got the whole everything
or crackle foils stuff.
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And now it's been just like set after set
after set that I don't even give a fuck about,
and it almost makes me feel guilty, Like people want
to d H and M. Last night we're asking, like
and I'm like, I don't I don't care, Like, what
do you think of the.
Speaker 1: New Marble set? I don't care.
Speaker 4: I don't even want to.
Speaker 1: Like, I don't want to invest my money to support
my lgs. Almost I do.
Speaker 4: I do because I want.
Speaker 1: My lgs to stay afloat tough. But like, I buy
it just because I want to give my store money
because they let us play there.
Speaker 4: Buy some older shit, buy some Commander legends.
Speaker 1: Don't have none of that, damn it, right, Like that
was a good set, right, I'm just buying.
Speaker 2: I'm just buying stuff to like because I feel compelled
to help my store because if people don't buy the ship,
then our stores closed and then we're fucked. Yeah, but
that's the only reason I own any of these cards,
because I don't care, and it's been stricts have and
I don't give a shit.
Speaker 4: It's Star Trek.
Speaker 1: It's I know you like the Hobbit, but I'm taking
or leave it the Hobbit.
Speaker 4: The basics are seasons again. Hey, they got one one
for each season.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, Like all the other sets that even you
mentioned today, like zeal Fear, I'm I'm interested in.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm sol Fear curious. I'm all curious. If you will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I hope that they don't kid glove it
like they did with.
Speaker 4: Under Junction, where they wanted to do.
Speaker 1: The Cowboy set, but they didn't really do the Cowboys set.
Speaker 4: It is. They didn't jonah hex from the seventies or
the sixties it. Yeah, they jonah Hex' the remake from
the two thousands in exactly because.
Speaker 1: I think, like if you were to have like a
South African set with all the history and the war
and the cultures and stuff, I think that would be
really really cool.
Speaker 4: Go all in and don't make mistakes like you did
with caladsh so bad that you had to change the
fucking name of the plane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm totally on board for that.
Speaker 4: Like I'm I'm genuinely interested to see that All Fear
looks good.
Speaker 1: Planar Chaos two might be okay. Real Fracture is that
what it's called. I could see it being needs but
the gimmick's been done and the cards that they've printed already,
I fucking don't even I don't care.
Speaker 4: Red snapcast Mage, who gives a ship pretty good?
Speaker 1: I have Underworld breach. What the fuck do I need
him for?
Speaker 4: What if th underworld breaches in your graveyard.
Speaker 2: You need green it has escape, doesn't It doesn't it
itself have escape?
Speaker 4: No, it gives all your ship, yeah, escape to Okay,
you know what. I had one more thought when you
were talking about not giving a ship in your favorite
set being out favorited. Yeah, okay, hit me, not physically,
I'll do it. Listen to this. I just thought of this,
and this is my final thought of the day. This
is my parting thought about all of this new stuff.
I'm sweat, so sweaty. I'm so sweaty too. That's my
final thought of the day. Just kidding. No, we're talking
about hobbit. I get to have my cake again, right yea?
Because I got Lord of the Rings. You you had, Well,
here here's the thing about it. Okay, I'll skip all
the stuff that I was gonna say no to introduce
this thought, but I'm just going to say the thought
for all of the gravity toss and the success and
the amazing cards and the memories sharing that set with
my son and my friends and everything.
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings was pretty special as being like
in Edmonton. Lord, we were there and people were running
and I got to do like the casual pre release
where we had Tim Horton's fucking for prizes. We were
so busy, like our thing, like we thought the event
was doing amazingly, but it turns out like killing.
Speaker 4: That peak CEO. It's the first time I ever met Brad.
Speaker 9: Hell yeah, okay, it's a good weekend. It was at
great set, all of that ship, all that stuff. Lord
of the Rings tails the Middle Earth not my favorite
set of all time. Hey, all of that universe is
beyond bullshit, and all the hype and all of the
culture about that set in our insular friend group and
all of that stuff.
Speaker 4: Doesn't make magic. The Gathering cards from that set my
favorite set collective because Invasion still exists. And that's when
I started getting into magic like big time, and that's
when the foundation for the love of magic gripped me.
And you could you could, well, you couldn't find an
outside property that I love more than Tolkien and Lord
of the Rings. You couldn't find that football, Oh, baseball
maybe my next guest, but oh my god, if sports
ever infilstrates magic, it's fucking over. It's fucking over. Okay, Uh,
you couldn't find something I love more than Lord of
the Rings, sure, and Lord of the Rings and magic
still doesn't supersede magic, and that's why I'm so excited
for zoll Fear and Camagawa, Godzilla, jerk Off and and
what's the other one, the Nauticus because that's magic shitxs nooxes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's noxes noxus, I don't Yeah, whatever it is,
I hope it's that.
Speaker 4: That's magic. That's magic the gathering. Yeah, and that's what
I'm here for. Other stuff like Lord of the Rings, Hobbit,
Final Fantasy, Turtles, key Man, Oh fuck he man man Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh, I'm excited for all that stuff. Hell yeah. But
ultimately that's a surface level thing that I like about
all of like magic.
Speaker 2: Would you have liked Lord of the Rings the same
or more if it was I'm trying to think of
a plane Zalfear. It's the exact same set, all the
cards are the same, but it's like South African themed.
Speaker 1: Would you think like with the Soul.
Speaker 4: That's that's a very interesting question, right because it's a.
Speaker 1: It was a great set. It's powerful cards.
Speaker 4: And ship like powerful cards. The limited environment was fun.
You had fun playing my environment. That is rare. There's
been two sets I've enjoyed limited environments Zendica and Lord
of the Ring.
Speaker 1: That's right, How do you know that?
Speaker 4: Yes? Yea, yeah, no, I I I think there's two
answers to that question. I'm not gonna like Zolfear as
much as I like Lord of the Rings. Right, and
if every single one of the same cards was just
a Zealfier card instead of a Lord of the Rings card,
I think that detracts from how much I like that set. Sure,
because it's not Lord of the Rings. It doesn't have
that facade. Lord of the Rings very definitely, I will
be clear. My second favorite set by the smallest of margins, Yes,
because I love that set and it's great, but it's
not foundational to my love of gaming and culture and
community like Invasion is.
Speaker 1: I was Stronghold was a better set.
Speaker 2: Then I could say the same thing, but it kind
of was. It just had Sliver Queen, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it. Yeah, I think I think every Magic
Con that I go to now I'm gonna open up
Invasion and Lord of the Rings booster packs. I did
that in Vegas this year. Yeah, and very happy I
did that. Mercadian masks ooh, I would not be very
happy if I did that.
Speaker 1: I'm super happy when we get to do that, we
got to do it.
Speaker 4: How much is a Mercadian Masks booster pack. I don't
think they're very much anymore.
Speaker 1: Most of the big cards from Masks block have been
like reprinted and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's I
don't know, you're probably looking like fifty or sixty blocks probably.
Speaker 4: Oh no, Invasion. Invasion is between fifty and sixty, okay,
or sorry, forty and fifty. I think I paid like
forty one or forty two.
Speaker 1: Call it twenty five or thirty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I bet you that's more accurate. Because you can
still open a Foil Rich at Anport. You can still
open a foil Brainstorm for Masks, yeah, that kind of stuff. Yeah,
you can still open a foil Cissa in Invasion. You
can still open a foil for Exian Altar. Those are
seven hundred now, by the way. Yeah, and Lord of
the Rings packs are are well outrages. They are what
they are. Will say that they're a stupid number. Yeah.
So my final thought of the day, I'm excited for
that he Man's Secret Layer. If that's a real thing,
I'm excited.
Speaker 1: For they're going to be be.
Speaker 4: Amp oh yeah, promise jerking each other off and stuff.
Speaker 1: Probably.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited for the universes within and I'm excited
for Hobbit. There you go. I think that's gonna be
a I know Hobbits this year, but it's it's coming
up and it's going to be a set that that
we're at least me. Maybe you can take a week off.
I'll be there and we were very definitely going to
be talking about that or doing a review. We're looking
at the legends or whatever it is, right, more traditional stuff. Yeah,
that that we that we've kind of skipped over in
the last little while.
Speaker 1: But you'll take a break from doing the Arc of
Casting Costs.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's a working title. Yeah, but we all know
what that means.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll talk about all the Commanders level one, two, three, four.
Speaker 4: Five, six.
Speaker 1: After do Borosh, I'll do a quick final thought.
Speaker 4: If you don't mind, please do uh so far.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, and I look very very
very for to getting excited about something.
Speaker 2: I think the Hobbit's gonna be the next one because
you're so excited Calgary and November. I'm really excited for that,
and I'm excited for some of the other things that
are going to give me an opportunity to hang it
with you, the listener, because at this point, right now
today in my magic career, the nation is why I
like to play magic. I like to be with my parents,
all these people, because the cards coming out, I could
absolutely take his reliever has broken shut its doors today
and I wouldn't give a fuck as long as you
guys still want to play magic.
Speaker 4: Okay, here's here's here's the thing. Here's the thing. Okay,
two things, two things, two things, uh, comments, discord, email,
whatever it is. Wherever you want to reach us, let
us know. Is it Calgary, is it West Coast? Is
it Destoi, is it Las Vegas?
Speaker 1: Is it toak Yaw?
Speaker 4: Is it Tokyo?
Speaker 1: That's French for Tokyo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody knows that. Where should we go or where's
should we go? Yeah, that is a great question. We
want to know. Vegas, of course, is always a big
one and I would very much like to go there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So do you just want to see Ryan and Brando
in Tokyo?
Speaker 4: Fucking We could.
Speaker 1: Go to the Red Light District, We could go to
a host bar, we could buy things out of vending
machines and.
Speaker 4: Wear them on our hear them, wear them on our
head like Superman masks. Yeah, only if they're used though,
that's right, Yeah, correct, somebody's unties. Yeah yeah, Where do
you want us to go? Is one thing, And the
other thing is all of the stuff that's coming out
that you're not excited about, universes beyond or otherwise. Yeah.
I always remind people of this is there's always somebody
that's gonna like it, right, well, yeah, but it also
none of the stuff that's coming out detracts from what
you already love about magic, like you could you could
not put a new card into Nora and the Werry Yeah,
all of twenty twenty seven. Yeah, and you would still
love to play that deck.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, still my favorite deck, three turtles cards in it.
Very cool.
Speaker 4: Oh well hell yeah, there you go, There you go.
But nothing is detractive or detracting from what you already
love about the game and the community and the culture.
It's only additive, and you can pick and choose what
you want to add because you're you. You're not Yeah,
you don't have to be who wats He tells you
that you have to be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is a rich person? Is that? Certainly cynical?
Speaker 4: Against certainly aren't that.
Speaker 1: But you're telling people all this good, wholesome stuff and
it's like, well, we're not rich, so fuck us.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 1: Well, the point the point is Ryan is right.
Speaker 2: You know, magic is already I'm not going to say
it's as good as it's going to get, but it
can't get any worse.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean it's bad.
Speaker 1: It just means that it's already good and we're already
here and we're already together having fun. And who cares
if it fucking is full of people sitting in chairs?
Speaker 4: Watson cashed it in for a year. That's okay, they're
still there's still a float.
Speaker 2: Well, who cares if they are still a float. We
still like the game that they made, and we like
play it together. That's what That's what's important. It could
be no more.
Speaker 4: New sets and we still like the game. This This
wasn't a funny episode, but lots of funny shit happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's almost like we're Commander Cucoad and that's our thing.
You want to hear us, you want anybody want to
hear us? Do it again?
Speaker 2: Yeah you do, and you can hear us on the
next exciting episode of cool.
Speaker 1: Man or cool Count podcast are
Speaker 6: One