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<v Speaker 1>Next on the Drive, Tim McMahon dropping dimes for your

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<v Speaker 1>NBA Daily assists.

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<v Speaker 2>Van McMahon, Van McMahon, that is being old Land, Texas

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<v Speaker 2>flood as tickets Mud, He's man McMahon.

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<v Speaker 1>Van McMahon, Oh man, it's been too long, but the

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<v Speaker 1>triumphant return of the legend himself. Some may say the

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<v Speaker 1>goat when it comes to covering the Utah Jazz. Van

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<v Speaker 1>McMahon Tim McMahon back on the Drive on a Tuesday, Tim,

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<v Speaker 1>how you been.

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<v Speaker 3>Man Hoday partner, How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>We're well, We're well. Thanks for the time. We've missed

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<v Speaker 4>you on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course it means basketball season is here when

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<v Speaker 1>you make your appearance.

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<v Speaker 4>Around these parts. We appreciate the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is a dark and rainy day in Salt Lake,

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<v Speaker 1>which matches the mood Tim. Because Taylor Hendricks, after spending

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<v Speaker 1>a number of hours in the off season improving his

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<v Speaker 1>body and was off to a pretty good start, suffers

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<v Speaker 1>a catastrophic leg injury that sees him lost for the year.

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<v Speaker 4>What's your reaction and what are you hearing about? How

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<v Speaker 4>he's doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and you know, I was in the building last

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<v Speaker 3>night and it was gruesome and guaranging. I mean the

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<v Speaker 3>second you saw the direction that his leg was turned,

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<v Speaker 3>you knew like, oh no, this is a really bad thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know Will already summed it up when he said,

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<v Speaker 3>this is bar of sports. It sucks. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 3>kid did everything that they asked him to do and

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<v Speaker 3>everything they hoped he would do over the summer, got

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<v Speaker 3>significantly stronger, you know, really showed an incredible work ethic,

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<v Speaker 3>earned the right to be in that starting lineup, was

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<v Speaker 3>guarding the other team's death player, whether it's John Morant

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<v Speaker 3>or Luca Donaldcicch or you know anybody in between on

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<v Speaker 3>a nightly basis. You know, really major strives in his development.

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<v Speaker 3>And again the bar from Will Hardy all to put

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<v Speaker 3>on pause right now his season's over. You know, typically

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<v Speaker 3>in these cases there's going to be served or acquired

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<v Speaker 3>that you know, the further tests in the day is

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<v Speaker 3>to determine the severity of it, you know, specifically like

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<v Speaker 3>the ligament damage, that kind of thing. But I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>really just Poy, what a gut punch and then what

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<v Speaker 3>a tough thing for a twenty year old kid who

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<v Speaker 3>had a rough look year and responded the right way

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<v Speaker 3>to now have to deal with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he according to people I've talked to over there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you hear the same. Like, in order to

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<v Speaker 1>develop as a young player, the main thing you have

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<v Speaker 1>to show people you can do is work. And he

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<v Speaker 1>showed everybody this offseason that he can work. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know the deal. Like I oftentimes joke that in

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<v Speaker 1>pro basketball, it's kind of the same thing as kind

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<v Speaker 1>of national signing dan college football, where every coach says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we got every prospect we wanted, like, well your rank

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<v Speaker 1>seventy second, Like he didn't get everybody and everybody NBA

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<v Speaker 1>training camps talks about, oh, it's gain, it's muscle gain season.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy put on twenty pounds, this put this guy

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<v Speaker 1>put on ten. But Taylor walked into the building and went,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, like he looked different, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>off to a good start to the season. And certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess before we move on a thought on you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a doctor. I don't try to play it

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<v Speaker 1>on the radio. You know, the Jazz certainly will not

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<v Speaker 1>rush this, nor do they have to. Are you hearing

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<v Speaker 1>anything about you know, is this going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>full year situation?

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<v Speaker 4>Any knowledge in that direction.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what I can say is that a typical

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<v Speaker 3>recovery process from this sort of injury is right about

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<v Speaker 3>that year. So you know, I don't have specifics from

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<v Speaker 3>the Jazz quite yet on you know, IMRI results and

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<v Speaker 3>plans for surgery and that sort of the thing, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it would not be surprising giving them the severity of this

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<v Speaker 3>injury if he's not ready for the startup camp or

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<v Speaker 3>even start of the ring season next year. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he's really this is a tough one. It's a really,

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<v Speaker 3>really tough one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Jazz have a great medical staff and

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<v Speaker 1>he's only twenty, so certainly leave a lot of space

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<v Speaker 1>for a long term recovery that gets him back on track.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, it's hard to focus on anything else.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if you heard last night, so obviously

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<v Speaker 1>Will Hardy spoke, but then Keyante and Walker on. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see video, but I listened to the audio. It

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<v Speaker 1>sounded like they were by crying, like emotional. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not just something that will affect Taylor. This

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<v Speaker 1>locker room's gonna have to move on from, as kyant

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<v Speaker 1>I said, losing their brother.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean listen Kiante as as the stretchers coming

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<v Speaker 3>out for Hendrix on the floor, he was covering his

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<v Speaker 3>face of the towel and clearly you know, tearing up.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's again, it's the emotional thing. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I visually seeing this guy who you're in a locker

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<v Speaker 3>room with, who you're on playing with, who you're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>playing with on a daily basis, who you helped this

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<v Speaker 3>bond with, especially like Conte coming in the same rookie

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<v Speaker 3>class and he's sitting there in shock and his his

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<v Speaker 3>ankle is pointed outward like that is a just an

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<v Speaker 3>extremely difficult thing to process on an emotional basis.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it feels, you know, kind of a little

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<v Speaker 1>uptuse or whatever to talk about other dynamics, but we

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<v Speaker 1>can't just hone in on that. So I wonder and

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<v Speaker 1>we just had Smittian studio and I was asking him

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<v Speaker 1>the same question, because you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know, the Keyante stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>At at Baylor, he played in thirty three games, he

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<v Speaker 1>shot thirty three percent from three thirty seven percent from

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. His rookie year for the Jazz, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five games, he shot thirty nine percent from the

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<v Speaker 1>floor thirty three percent from three, and he's off to

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<v Speaker 1>even a worse shooting start this year with splits that

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<v Speaker 1>are under thirty for three and just barely I mean

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven percent from the floor, twenty three percent from three.

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<v Speaker 1>So ultimately, he's only twenty. He played a year of

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<v Speaker 1>pro basketball, it's only or excuse me, a year of

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<v Speaker 1>college basketball. It's only a second year on the pros.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's never proven to be an efficient shot makerer.

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<v Speaker 1>What point is that kind of an issue?

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<v Speaker 3>And I always say you have to consider it a

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<v Speaker 3>concern now, and you also have to have patience with

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<v Speaker 3>a want and done player who is learning to play

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<v Speaker 3>point guard at the NBA level, didn't play in high school,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't play in college, so and you know him playing

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<v Speaker 3>aside from you know, aside from a few guys playing

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<v Speaker 3>have to have some patience with him and understand it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's gonna be a lot of bumps in the road.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, maybe he becomes legitimate starting point guard

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<v Speaker 3>in the league, and maybe he doesn't. There's no guarantees.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, there's not And you know, while justin Zannik and

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Ainge talk a lot about development and the youth,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's probably what we're going to see this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder how Will's going to handle this, because, look,

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<v Speaker 1>Patty Mills is thirty six. Okay, I'm not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>make him anything that he's not at this stage in

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<v Speaker 1>his career, but Will knows him from San Antonio, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just wonder if Will's gonna let Keyante go through

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of mistakes or if he's going to rely

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<v Speaker 1>on the veteran. Game one against Memphis, in Patty's sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>minutes they were plus ten, and Keyante's thirty one, they

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<v Speaker 1>were minus eleven.

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<v Speaker 4>Patty didn't take a shot, he didn't take.

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<v Speaker 1>A free throw, he only had one board, one assist,

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<v Speaker 1>but he came in and the ball started popping, the

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<v Speaker 1>ball started moving. So there is this dynamic of that's

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<v Speaker 1>sitting behind these youngsters, and you know, I know they

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<v Speaker 1>want development, but Will wants to win.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you think he traverses that space this year?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think what you don't want is bad habits

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<v Speaker 3>to develop, and if bad habits are developing, that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to cost Keante Jorgs minutes. If she's doing the right

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<v Speaker 3>things and getting the wrong results, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 3>completely different kind of conversation. So you know, but listen,

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<v Speaker 3>Keyante's development is a priority for the organization, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>also understanding that you know, from a wins and losses

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<v Speaker 3>and standings perspective, this is probably not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a phenomenal season in the history of Utah Jazz.

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<v Speaker 1>Basketball, which, as you know, I'm totally fine with, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if this is the situation, because the the other thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it is a protected pick. If it's outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the top ten, it goes to OKC. How much

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<v Speaker 1>of the early losing do you expect to continue, and

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<v Speaker 1>if it does, how much of that is intentional?

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I was going through the I was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>stink my way through security without interrupting.

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<v Speaker 1>You get to repete question, I'll ask you a much

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<v Speaker 1>shorter question. Does it feel like they're actually tanking intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>this year?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't necessarily know that they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 3>be intentional about it. I think there's I think the

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<v Speaker 3>level of competition in the Western Conference and the quality

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<v Speaker 3>and lack of experience of the players on the Jazz roster.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the results that take care of themselves, I

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<v Speaker 3>think they will be well positioned to participate in a lottery.

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<v Speaker 3>Bets obviously is expected to produce not just one, but

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<v Speaker 3>potentially a handful of franchise type of talents.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me your best guess rotationally what it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>with Taylor out? You think they go John Collins, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's Price's sense about there's about twenty eight minutes

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<v Speaker 1>available rotationally.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you think we'll handles it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, Cody Williams might get some more time.

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<v Speaker 3>My guess is probably he would air on the side

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<v Speaker 3>of going with the VET in the starting the lineup

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<v Speaker 3>to open things up. But you know, I'll be honest

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<v Speaker 3>with you, I really wasn't kind of poking around about

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<v Speaker 3>that last night. There were, you know, obviously, other things,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly the severity of Hendrick's injury that I was quick

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<v Speaker 3>focused on more of my reporting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, before I say you loose, if this

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<v Speaker 1>is about development, then a year three Walker Kessler will

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<v Speaker 1>give us a peak as to whether or not they're

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<v Speaker 1>developing players through three games. He's I think it's been

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<v Speaker 1>an a plus start points, eleven boards, almost three blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>the shooting percentage is close to seventy. So really good

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<v Speaker 1>first three games for Walker. You think it's going to continue.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, he had great summer, and you know, I think

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<v Speaker 3>in hindsight, playing fourteen YUSA in the World Cup was

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<v Speaker 3>a mistake for him. He needed to be you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in a weight room. He needed to be you know

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<v Speaker 3>what was some of his game at gym and last

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<v Speaker 3>he was kind of a humbling thing for him. He

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<v Speaker 3>went on an all rookie season to being you know, let's

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<v Speaker 3>be honest. I would considered a disappointment as a sophomore.

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<v Speaker 3>But again he talked about the way people respond to disappointment.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can I can tell you know, when I

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<v Speaker 3>ran into Will hard in the preseason, he said, waiting

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<v Speaker 3>till see Walker. You know, he's he's bigger, he's stronger

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<v Speaker 3>like he looks good like he you know, he came

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<v Speaker 3>in ready to compete this year. So I can tell

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<v Speaker 3>you Will it's not a guy who plows a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of smoke. You know. If he if he's pumping the

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<v Speaker 3>guy up and saying he's happy for what he's been doing,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he's doing the right things. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he talked about it. He had you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hashtag muscle watch. But he is bigger, you know. He

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<v Speaker 3>did add about twenty pounds and I think he's humbled

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<v Speaker 3>and came in with he to prove that all the

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<v Speaker 3>optimism about him during his rookie season was accurate. And

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<v Speaker 3>you know he's ready to back that up.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, brother, Well, good to hear your voice, Glad

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<v Speaker 1>to have you back. We'll set you loose and look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to catching up soon.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry to rushing on this one. I got an early

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<v Speaker 3>tip tonight, but we will we will make up for

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<v Speaker 3>it in the weeks to come.

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<v Speaker 4>All good, All good.

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<v Speaker 1>There is Tim McMahon covers the NBA for ESPN. He

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<v Speaker 1>is the ESPN beat reporter on the jazz beat, so

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<v Speaker 1>we like to bring him in to get the latest

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<v Speaker 1>with the Utah Jazz. Yeah, it feels a little insensitive

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't know, futile at this point to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about anything other than the horrible scene we all saw

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday and just thinking to Taylor and man, Jazz have

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<v Speaker 1>a great medical staff. He's twenty, so I'm sure he'll

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<v Speaker 1>get back and he'll be fine, but probably won't be

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<v Speaker 1>for a year, which does hinder the development of what

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<v Speaker 1>he could be.

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<v Speaker 4>But step one, get healthy. Hopefully he's doing all right.