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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app. White House announced a baseline tear

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<v Speaker 1>freid of ten percent going to effect on Saturday. The

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<v Speaker 1>DOW has been down over fifteen hundred points at times today,

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<v Speaker 1>S and P five hundred has been down over four percent.

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<v Speaker 1>NASDAC been down over one thousand points at times. Story

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<v Speaker 1>we are following for you. Thirteen year old boy who

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<v Speaker 1>has reported missing over the weekend has been discovered. His

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<v Speaker 1>body has been discovered in a wooded area in Ventura County,

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<v Speaker 1>Oxnard yesterday. San Fernando Valley is where Oscar Hernandez is from.

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<v Speaker 1>He was reported missing March thirtieth, like I said, on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>failed to return home after visiting an acquaintance in Lancaster.

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<v Speaker 1>They started investigating Laped's robber a homicide. Did They developed

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<v Speaker 1>leads suggesting that they search an area a wooded area

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<v Speaker 1>of Harbor Boulevard in Oxnard. We don't know about those leads.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know who they're looking at. But they did

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<v Speaker 1>discover the body in the area that they were searching.

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<v Speaker 1>His sister Alejandra says, my brother was one of those

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<v Speaker 1>people who would greet anyone.

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<v Speaker 2>He had no evil in his heart.

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<v Speaker 1>If he encountered anyone, he would have a conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>them and be friends with that person. So again, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what led to this. They have suggested that

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<v Speaker 1>there may be a person of interest that they're working

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<v Speaker 1>to question in this situation. But thirteen year old boy

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<v Speaker 1>body found yesterday afternoon. All Right, the popularity of these

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<v Speaker 1>electric scooters and electric bites is off the chain quite literally.

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<v Speaker 2>You see them everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I see them all the time on pch down there

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<v Speaker 1>in an, Orange County, just droves of people too. And

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, the bike stores, the shops, the rental places

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<v Speaker 1>are right there. They're in all the tourist areas, the hotspots.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the thing to do right now.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful out there, especially in that area. Long Beach

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<v Speaker 1>is another area where these are super popular. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they're popular everywhere, children and adults alike. And I've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it, how I've seen people on these scooters and

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<v Speaker 1>bikes and I'm thinking, gosh, I got to get back

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<v Speaker 1>on my bike. That is a good workout. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I realize that they're not really riding their bike. It's

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<v Speaker 1>an electric bike, so maybe not for workout purposes, but

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely convenient. But there has been a huge uptick. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've been waiting for this to happen, because how could

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<v Speaker 1>it not If these things go forty five miles per

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<v Speaker 1>hour faster even, and kids don't have licenses for them,

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<v Speaker 1>or they just don't care, or they're riding them just

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<v Speaker 1>without abandon, with abandon or without abandon. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of those things that routinely screw up. It

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<v Speaker 1>feels like it should be without abandon anyway, there has

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<v Speaker 1>been a huge uptick in serious or deadly crashes involving

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<v Speaker 1>these things. There was a study published. Finally, the things

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<v Speaker 1>are being studied in this regard. There was a study

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<v Speaker 1>published in the JAMA Network and they say that they've

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<v Speaker 1>tracked down e bike injuries back to when we had

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<v Speaker 1>the onset of these things in twenty seventeen, very new.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty seventeen, there were seven hundred and fifty one

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<v Speaker 1>e bike injuries recorded. Those are ones where somebody fills

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<v Speaker 1>out some paperwork, which would be rare with these things anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, we've all fallen off our bikes.

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<v Speaker 1>We've never filled out paperwork for it, so it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be pretty serious. Seven hundred and fifty one, how

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<v Speaker 1>many do you think there were? Five years after that

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and fifty one. Five years later there were

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four thousand. That speaks to a couple things, the

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<v Speaker 1>proliferation of these things and the whole without abandoned writing

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<v Speaker 1>of these things. Injuries from riding eat scooters rose forty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent over that period. There are anecdotes now we're

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<v Speaker 1>getting just over the weekend, Emiliano Flores eleven years old,

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<v Speaker 1>riding an electric scooter when he collided with a sedan

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<v Speaker 1>put in the hospital with serious injuries. Neighbor heard the

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<v Speaker 1>crash outside her home, says that as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>came out, I hear a little boy crying.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what it is. It's a little boy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an eleven year old who's given something with the

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<v Speaker 1>ability to go as fast as a car, an eleven

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<v Speaker 1>year old. She says, I caught a glimpse of his

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<v Speaker 1>little face. It was so swollen it looked purple. His

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<v Speaker 1>eyes were swollen shut. There are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who ride these things who don't know the rules of

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<v Speaker 1>the road, let alone follow them. April First, couple days

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<v Speaker 1>ago in Orange, two teenagers hospitalized with critical injuries after

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<v Speaker 1>riding a scooter on the wrong side of the road

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<v Speaker 1>and crashing into a car. It is a growing problem

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<v Speaker 1>throughout southern California. You're going to see people flooding the

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<v Speaker 1>city council meetings, police commission meetings asking for something to

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<v Speaker 1>be done. The last time I checked, there is no

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<v Speaker 1>way to prohibit the riding of an e scooter or

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<v Speaker 1>e bike in California. So they're going to have to

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<v Speaker 1>come up with some sort of loopholes when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to putting in laws for this kind of thing. And

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<v Speaker 1>not to be a spoil sport, not to be a

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<v Speaker 1>oh you're no fun, your grandma's no fun, but the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of an eleven year old riding something that goes

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<v Speaker 1>forty five miles per hour and not knowing the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're eleven, how would you not want to ride that?

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<v Speaker 1>If you're thirteen, whatever, you're a little boy, how would

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<v Speaker 1>you not want that. Of course you're gonna want that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's okay to have it. That's where the adults

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<v Speaker 1>need to step in.

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<v Speaker 3>Like when I was growing up, we had quads, we

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<v Speaker 3>had dirt bikes, and our parents always like had to

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<v Speaker 3>watch us on them. Like we would ride them throughout

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<v Speaker 3>the neighborhood and it was fun, but our parents were

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<v Speaker 3>always there observing us because these are actual vehicles. And

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<v Speaker 3>just the other day, I was driving home and there's

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<v Speaker 3>this hill and I'm making a right onto the street

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<v Speaker 3>and this kid, and it's near a school on his

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<v Speaker 3>e bike comes from nowhere and just takes the light

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<v Speaker 3>on his e bike and it's like I had no

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<v Speaker 3>time to react. Thankfully, I saw him ahead of time

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<v Speaker 3>and nothing happened. But it's scary, and it's scary for

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<v Speaker 3>the kid and for you as a driver. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine you don't see I mean, you hit that kid.

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<v Speaker 3>He dies, and you've got that on your conscious to

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<v Speaker 3>your whole life, even though you did nothing wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a bad combination of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're right, I mean, that is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>great joys is being able to ride a quad or

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<v Speaker 1>whatever when you're a kid and you don't have your

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<v Speaker 1>license yet. And that was always the coolest thing when

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<v Speaker 1>I had friends with parents that had those. You go

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<v Speaker 1>off roading and stuff. But you're right, You're totally right.

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<v Speaker 1>You were always supervised. There was always somebody in the

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle or near the vehicle with you, not just okay,

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<v Speaker 1>go have fun with your friends, go ride your e

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<v Speaker 1>bike down to the store or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were always and we were always taught the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah beforehand, it's crazy. Well you're old, clearly and zero fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming back next, we will talk about the sea lions.

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<v Speaker 2>The sea lions are getting a bad rap. Guys. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not dangerous, they're not being violent. They're just poisoned.

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<v Speaker 1>We know somebody who has been having some encounters with

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<v Speaker 1>the crazy sea lions out here locally in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to them when we return.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.

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<v Speaker 4>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>New course at UCSB called Critical Heterosexuality Studies. It's basically

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<v Speaker 1>a course about straight relationships. Why straight women continue to

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<v Speaker 1>go back for more is in the headline, and the

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<v Speaker 1>sociologist that teaches the course is a lesbian. I was opining,

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting why she would talk about how life is

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<v Speaker 1>so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>For straight women, not being one of them. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I've realized that I also am not completely equipped to

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<v Speaker 1>have the conversation. So we've decided to do a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive on this story and bring in some gay guys

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<v Speaker 1>coming up in the twelve o'clock hour to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>round out the conversation. So it's fascinating. It's the first

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<v Speaker 1>of its course, first of its kind course at UCSB,

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<v Speaker 1>run by the Chair of Feminist Studies about why why

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<v Speaker 1>straight women have it so bad in our world? And

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<v Speaker 1>I think it is a luxury to even ask that question.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So sea lions, We've got a fifteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old girl attacked by her during her swim test in

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<v Speaker 1>Long Beach by a sea lion. This is the latest

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<v Speaker 1>in a series of stories of sea lions gone crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt Money Smith down the hall.

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<v Speaker 1>Klac, host of the Petres and Money Show, the voice

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<v Speaker 1>of your Los Angeles Chargers as well, joins me because

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<v Speaker 1>he plays in the water from time to time. And Matt,

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to have you on and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you're a water rat and that you may have some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of experience with these with these sea lions.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been attacked?

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<v Speaker 5>I have. And it's funny.

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<v Speaker 6>As you were doing the intro about the UCSB course,

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<v Speaker 6>you were like and We're going to have a couple

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<v Speaker 6>of gay guys. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you Danna knows something about me that I don't.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just what I'm coming on to talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so more than welcome in a twelve o'clock hour.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like I wasn't prepared for this. I guess. See

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<v Speaker 5>that's examination.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's how you know that you're a good radio

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<v Speaker 1>personality is because you're down for whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you were like, Oh, she's having me on to

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<v Speaker 2>be a gay guy. Cool, I'm not dropping off the line.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm still here. Yeah. Sea lions.

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<v Speaker 6>So there's it's a bummer, man. It's like it's been

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<v Speaker 6>a really big bummer the last month or so. The

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<v Speaker 6>first the first thing I saw was a kind of

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<v Speaker 6>like a pup a porpoise that was dead on the beach.

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<v Speaker 6>That was actually kind of right around your area over

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<v Speaker 6>in the Sunset Beach area. That was probably about a

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<v Speaker 6>month ago, and I just maybe thought it was a

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<v Speaker 6>victim of an attack or something along those lines. And

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<v Speaker 6>then we started seeing a lot of birds, pelicans, mud hens,

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<v Speaker 6>kind of all of those sort of washed up on shore.

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<v Speaker 6>And then we started seeing the sea lions. About three

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<v Speaker 6>weeks ago. I saw the first one at Bolsa Chica

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<v Speaker 6>kind of in the jetty there, the South jetty sort

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<v Speaker 6>And then I kind of had an encounter in the

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<v Speaker 6>water about two weeks ago. I was paddling out and

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<v Speaker 6>it was very I always go out early. I'm usually,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, one of the first people in the water,

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<v Speaker 6>and so there were maybe two or three other guys

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<v Speaker 6>out at the time, and as I paddled in, I

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<v Speaker 6>kind of had heard this sort of snort behind me.

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<v Speaker 2>And what did it sound like, Matt, Yeah, like that a.

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<v Speaker 5>Little it was.

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<v Speaker 6>It was maybe even a little more snarly, like you

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<v Speaker 6>know than that there you go, there you go. Then

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<v Speaker 6>you got it, but it's very loud, and it was

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<v Speaker 6>just kind of one of those startling things, and like,

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<v Speaker 6>what was that? And I turned around and I saw

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<v Speaker 6>this sort of head just kind of I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>It did not take a bite, but didn't make.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally good reason with the sea lion, That's kind of.

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<v Speaker 6>happened to the girl that was doing her junior lifeguard test, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Is there part of you that wanted the story, like

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<v Speaker 1>that would cripple you, but just for the story.

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<v Speaker 6>As I said to Petro's on the show that day

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<v Speaker 5>But a sea lion, like that's that's not good.

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<v Speaker 6>That that doesn't because you know they're people look at

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<v Speaker 6>them like puppies, right, they're supposed to be, but they're not. Man,

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<v Speaker 6>because they do have those sort of faces, right, these

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<v Speaker 6>It couldn't really move, It was just moving its head around.

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<v Speaker 6>When are my dog? And I kind of came up

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<v Speaker 6>upon at about six am and and.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, just you know, they're sick.

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<v Speaker 6>They they're confused, and I think that's kind of how

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<v Speaker 6>definitely demoic acid. And I was like, well, it's it

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<v Speaker 5>So it's a it's a huge bummer.

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<v Speaker 2>So when when does it go away? Is it a

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<v Speaker 5>Seasonal thing?

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<v Speaker 6>But this is far and away the worst I've seen.

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<v Speaker 1>And they like the angel of death out there, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>right walking around looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>Dead animals and bringing your dog into it too.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the dog that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 6>You know the dog like smells sure, so you know

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<v Speaker 6>she wants to get in there and play with these things.

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<v Speaker 5>Come on, let's keep it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what I'm hearing is there still a chance that

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<v Speaker 1>you get eaten by a sea lion and if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt will love to have you back.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, do you want me to have you back at noon?

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<v Speaker 1>We come back on for the gay guy thing. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve thirty five. We'll see you here.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks, Matt, you got a Channon.

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<v Speaker 1>Financial markets around the world reeling today following the latest

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<v Speaker 1>and most severe news about tariffs. US stock market taking

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<v Speaker 2>Keep an eye on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not going to get better until we get some

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<v Speaker 1>of the hour just a little bit. President Trump has

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<v Speaker 1>moved to fire several White House National Security Council officials,

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<v Speaker 1>What could potentially have tipped off the president into disloyal troops?

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<v Speaker 2>All right?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in the La Times there is an article about

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<v Speaker 1>a death row inmate that has put up his journals

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<v Speaker 1>and his art for sale eighty thousand dollars. And you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking to yourself, probably the way I thought to myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Wasn't there a law? Yes, yes, there was a law

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<v Speaker 1>Albert Jones found himself sitting in his cell on San

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<v Speaker 1>a little thing called COVID, And in the following months,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of death row inmates fell sick close quarters. We

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<v Speaker 1>heard all about this when it came to close living situations.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why there were so many prisoners let out because

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<v Speaker 1>through these tight living quarters, whether it's rest homes or

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty, a couple thousand prisoners at San Quentin

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<v Speaker 1>had fallen ill, staff members included. And through it all,

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<v Speaker 1>Albert Jones kept detailed journals chronicling his anxiety over catching COVID.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's rich, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll get to what Albert Jones did to get on

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<v Speaker 1>in one of his journals, the world is on lockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>The state is on full lockdown. The disease is spreading

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<v Speaker 1>so fast. People don't know what to do. Staying in

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<v Speaker 1>like me. Albert Jones wrote that summer in his journal,

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<v Speaker 2>We had just showered.

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<v Speaker 1>The nurse gave him his meds and then they seen

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<v Speaker 1>how pale his skin was and.

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<v Speaker 1>So they took his oxygen level and it was sixty two.

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Scott sounds like a nice guy, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>Scott is Scott erksign. He is a rapist and murderer.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott is anyway. Albert Jones a year and a half

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<v Speaker 1>ago published a memoir he titled it I Survived COVID nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>one of his ten books, two of them collections of

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<v Speaker 1>prison recipes by the Bye. One of his collection of

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<v Speaker 1>ten books that he has written in his years behind bars,

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<v Speaker 1>to which I say, great, like great use of time.

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<v Speaker 1>He's sixty years old. Albert is, why is he on

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<v Speaker 1>death row while in nineteen ninety six he brutally killed

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<v Speaker 1>an elderly couple. That's redundant. Brutally killed an elderly couple,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it? It was during a robbery in their home.

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<v Speaker 1>These people, by the way, as you can imagine, wonderful people.

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<v Speaker 1>Their daughter in law named Mary says, what gives him

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<v Speaker 1>the right to write a book? My children, their grandchildren,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost their grandparents.

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<v Speaker 2>These were loving people.

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<v Speaker 1>My father in law would have given you the shirt

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<v Speaker 1>off his back, and so sort of Madeline, what the hell?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is this guy being written up in the newspaper.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is he getting money from these books? What the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is going on? Well, if you find a liberal

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<v Speaker 1>book inside, that no doubt will be about freeing wrongly

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<v Speaker 1>incarcerated people, because that's just what happens, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>what happened for Albert Jones, Sonoma County bookseller sees his

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<v Speaker 1>collected works as a rare glimpse into one of America's

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<v Speaker 2>He's met with Gavin Newsom.

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<v Speaker 1>He was able to show the governor on site about

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<v Speaker 1>his documenting community life on death Row. His writing and

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<v Speaker 1>prison memorabilia will be auctioned at.

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<v Speaker 2>A posh New York City book fair this month.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be on display this weekend in fact, the asking

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<v Speaker 1>price eighty thousand dollars. Private collectors are clamoring to get

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<v Speaker 1>their hands on Albert's recipes for prison gumbo and what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to the rapist names got that unfortunately lost his

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<v Speaker 1>Personal items there were included an old pair of reading glasses,

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<v Speaker 1>a broken wristwatch. Prison I I'm all for redemption by

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<v Speaker 1>the bye. I am all for a second chance. America's

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<v Speaker 1>built on second chances, third chances. But when you kill

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<v Speaker 1>robbing them, I think you're all out. I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fresh out of second chances. Over here, I'm fresh out

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<v Speaker 1>of you making eighty thousand dollars off talking about your

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<v Speaker 1>rapist friend dying from COVID and your anxiety over the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing kind of flies out the window with the

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<v Speaker 1>dead old couple, doesn't it. There was a law in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and two that was struck down by the

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<v Speaker 1>state Supreme Court. California previously prohibited prisoners from financially benefiting

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<v Speaker 1>from selling their stories, but the Supreme Court struck down

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<v Speaker 1>that law. The La Times reached out to the prison

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<v Speaker 1>system about this, and a woman named Terry Hardy is

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<v Speaker 1>said that the agency had not been informed about a

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<v Speaker 1>contract to sell Albert's books, and as a precaution, would

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<v Speaker 1>that he'd changed forever, those grandkids that will never know

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<v Speaker 1>their grandparents, that family. It's going to let them know,

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<v Speaker 1>going to let them know. Imagine that phone call anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>But eighty thousand dollars, there you go. They say that

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<v Speaker 1>the book collectors that are all about spreading Albert Jones's

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<v Speaker 1>stories say his archive might show the world what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of artistry and human connection is possible in a place

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<v Speaker 1>designed to crush creativity and ultimately execute people. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>people executed were the.

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<v Speaker 2>Family.

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<v Speaker 1>God, I've said Albert James's Albert Jones's names? How many times?

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<v Speaker 1>How many times have I said Albert's name in the

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<v Speaker 1>past eight minutes? Probably like seven or eight times? How

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<v Speaker 1>many times have I said the people who were killed names?

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<v Speaker 2>None? Shame on me.

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<v Speaker 1>James and Madeleine Floraville were their name. James was eighty two,

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<v Speaker 1>Madeline was seventy two probably didn't put much of a

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<v Speaker 1>fight before they were brutally murdered inside their home, did they? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>There you have it all right. Coming up next San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 1>PS is a bit of good news here. They're finding

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<v Speaker 1>their way. This was from the New York Times, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, and the headline is We've lost our way.

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco rethinking their drug paraphernalia handouts. Here's the opening line,

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<v Speaker 1>caught me, should catch you too. Plastic straws or band

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<v Speaker 1>in San Francisco. But if you smoke fentanyl, you can

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<v Speaker 1>get plastic straws for free at taxpayer's expense. That may

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<v Speaker 1>be going by the wayside. Finally, we'll talk about it

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<v Speaker 1>when we come back.

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<v Speaker 4>You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI

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<v Speaker 4>AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>Heartbreaking story out of Oxnard where a thirteen year old

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<v Speaker 1>boy's body has been found. He was reported missing out

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<v Speaker 1>of the valley on Sunday. Trying to stay on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that information and get more as it comes in.

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<v Speaker 1>They did have information as to where his body would

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<v Speaker 1>be in a wooded area there in Oxnard, and there

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<v Speaker 1>may be there being a choi about it, but there

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<v Speaker 1>may be somebody that they're looking at. How could there

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<v Speaker 1>not be if there wasn't If this was a random

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<v Speaker 1>boy that was taken off the street and killed and

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<v Speaker 1>there was no connection to anybody, I would think that

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<v Speaker 1>we would know if that was the case. So they

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<v Speaker 1>must have somebody in mind, So we will be staying

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<v Speaker 1>on top of that. In the New York Times this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about San Francisco losing its way, and I did

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<v Speaker 1>not see this one eighty I haven't really been paying

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<v Speaker 1>attention to what's going on in San Francisco either, but

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<v Speaker 1>good news to bring you today. They open the story,

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<v Speaker 1>like I mentioned before the break, talking about plastic straws

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<v Speaker 1>being banned in San Francisco unless if you're smoking fentanyl,

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<v Speaker 1>then you get one for free. Oh and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>the taxpayers bought it for you. Daniel Lurie is the

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<v Speaker 1>moderate Democrat who became the city's new mayor in January.

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<v Speaker 2>Moderate Democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that definition has probably changed a lot, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Lurie said this week that things have gone too

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<v Speaker 1>far in San Francisco. He announced yesterday a new policy

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<v Speaker 1>that walks back the free distribution of clean foil pipes

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<v Speaker 1>and plastic straws on the streets of San Francisco. These

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<v Speaker 1>were used to smoke fentanyl, meth all it. The city

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<v Speaker 1>spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a year just on

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<v Speaker 1>these things, just on the enabling tools. And I call

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<v Speaker 1>them that because as long as it's comfortable to do

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<v Speaker 1>your drugs or whatever's ruining your life, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>it's comfortable, you gonna keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're not making it uncomfortable, then then somebody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly the city shouldn't be paying for it with other

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<v Speaker 1>people's money to make it comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what's been going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Look no further than a billboard in San Francisco five

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<v Speaker 1>years ago. The billboard was paid for by the city,

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<v Speaker 1>paid for by people who live there. I should say

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<v Speaker 1>that pay taxes the people who have to trapes over

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<v Speaker 1>the people who are losing their lives every day on

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<v Speaker 1>the street and living in zombieville on fentanyl. The billboard

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<v Speaker 1>showed smiling people wearing glitter and sequence and they're having

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<v Speaker 1>a great time, and the caption said do it with friends.

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<v Speaker 1>The takeaway being you you're going to go out, You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do drugs. You're going to go party, do

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<v Speaker 1>it with friends. That way you won't overdose on your own.

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<v Speaker 1>It was kind of like a message, it's okay, just

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<v Speaker 1>don't die as a zombie and the tenderloin alone when

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<v Speaker 1>you could have a friend there with you that could

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<v Speaker 1>grab maybe some narcan nearby. But this is the latest sign,

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor's announcement yesterday, that they're moving away from this ideology,

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<v Speaker 1>which is excellent. It's great voters have said that this

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<v Speaker 1>is what they want there, and you wonder how that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to impact what's going on in the conversation here

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<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked to Michael Monks yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about it all week, ever since last week

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<v Speaker 1>when that judge in downtown LA had the mayor and

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the county Board of Supervisors in front

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<v Speaker 1>of him and he said.

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<v Speaker 2>The hell are you doing? What are you doing with

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<v Speaker 2>all this money.

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<v Speaker 1>That the voters have approved to eradicate homelessness. You're spending it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not even keeping track of it. And the

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<v Speaker 1>homeless people are still there. So what's what's going on?

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<v Speaker 1>The gravy train is coming to an end here and

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<v Speaker 1>people are getting fed up with the ideology of just

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<v Speaker 1>give them clean needles and they'll be okay and you

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<v Speaker 1>can go on living your sanitized life on the West Side.

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco leading the way I think we got to follow.

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<v Speaker 1>The new mayor said just that walking around the Tenderloin

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<v Speaker 1>this week. We have lost our way. Other California, Citi's

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<v Speaker 1>La Seattle, Portland, New York, all places that have been

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<v Speaker 1>pretty permissive when it comes to giving basically kits of

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<v Speaker 1>drug paraphernalia to people in the street. San Francisco taking

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<v Speaker 1>the crown time and time again well as of the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this month. As of April thirtieth, all paraphernalia

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<v Speaker 1>will only be distributed to those who undergo lengthy counseling

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<v Speaker 1>sessions that are designed to steer them into treatment or

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<v Speaker 1>toward other resolutions. So maybe you know the methodone route

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<v Speaker 1>somebody wants to get off heroin. You're going to help

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<v Speaker 1>them do that in a safe way, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, that's the care and the stick. Right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you have agreed for treatment, you've agreed for rehab, you've

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<v Speaker 1>agreed this is not what you want for your life.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, We'll help you out with that, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way it should be, not though. We'll help you

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<v Speaker 1>out with that, and you haven't come to a decision

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<v Speaker 1>that you want to change. So good news in that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next. How did it get to be eleven

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock already, We've got swamp watched Trump's firing people in

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<v Speaker 1>Washington because they're not loyal security officials. We'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>that Wall Street, we'll get an update on that. Not

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<v Speaker 1>going to spend a lot of time because it's Thursday,

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost Friday. We don't want bad news, bad news

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<v Speaker 1>heading into the weekend. And ps we talked to all

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<v Speaker 1>the money guys and they said, do not panic today.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be what happens with the markets

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<v Speaker 1>when any time the word tariff enters the chat. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is Trump's way of doing business and it'll all

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully even out. So I won't spend too much time

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<v Speaker 1>on that big twelve o'clock hour as well, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive into the story about that new course at UCSB,

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<v Speaker 1>all about straight hood of course, talking about the science

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<v Speaker 1>of being straight.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Shannon will continue after this.

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<v Speaker 5>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon show.

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<v Speaker 6>You can always hear us live on KFI AM six

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<v Speaker 6>forty nine am to one pm every Monday through Friday,

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