Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. White House announced a baseline tear
Speaker 1: freid of ten percent going to effect on Saturday. The
Speaker 1: DOW has been down over fifteen hundred points at times today,
Speaker 1: S and P five hundred has been down over four percent.
Speaker 1: NASDAC been down over one thousand points at times. Story
Speaker 1: we are following for you. Thirteen year old boy who
Speaker 1: has reported missing over the weekend has been discovered. His
Speaker 1: body has been discovered in a wooded area in Ventura County,
Speaker 1: Oxnard yesterday. San Fernando Valley is where Oscar Hernandez is from.
Speaker 1: He was reported missing March thirtieth, like I said, on Sunday,
Speaker 1: failed to return home after visiting an acquaintance in Lancaster.
Speaker 1: They started investigating Laped's robber a homicide. Did They developed
Speaker 1: leads suggesting that they search an area a wooded area
Speaker 1: of Harbor Boulevard in Oxnard. We don't know about those leads.
Speaker 1: We don't know who they're looking at. But they did
Speaker 1: discover the body in the area that they were searching.
Speaker 1: His sister Alejandra says, my brother was one of those
Speaker 1: people who would greet anyone.
Speaker 2: He had no evil in his heart.
Speaker 1: If he encountered anyone, he would have a conversation with
Speaker 1: them and be friends with that person. So again, we
Speaker 1: don't know what led to this. They have suggested that
Speaker 1: there may be a person of interest that they're working
Speaker 1: to question in this situation. But thirteen year old boy
Speaker 1: body found yesterday afternoon. All Right, the popularity of these
Speaker 1: electric scooters and electric bites is off the chain quite literally.
Speaker 2: You see them everywhere.
Speaker 1: I see them all the time on pch down there
Speaker 1: in an, Orange County, just droves of people too. And
Speaker 1: in fact, the bike stores, the shops, the rental places
Speaker 1: are right there. They're in all the tourist areas, the hotspots.
Speaker 1: It's the thing to do right now.
Speaker 2: And I get it.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful out there, especially in that area. Long Beach
Speaker 1: is another area where these are super popular. I mean
Speaker 1: they're popular everywhere, children and adults alike. And I've talked
Speaker 1: about it, how I've seen people on these scooters and
Speaker 1: bikes and I'm thinking, gosh, I got to get back
Speaker 1: on my bike. That is a good workout. And then
Speaker 1: I realize that they're not really riding their bike. It's
Speaker 1: an electric bike, so maybe not for workout purposes, but
Speaker 1: absolutely convenient. But there has been a huge uptick. And
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this to happen, because how could
Speaker 1: it not If these things go forty five miles per
Speaker 1: hour faster even, and kids don't have licenses for them,
Speaker 1: or they just don't care, or they're riding them just
Speaker 1: without abandon, with abandon or without abandon. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's one of those things that routinely screw up. It
Speaker 1: feels like it should be without abandon anyway, there has
Speaker 1: been a huge uptick in serious or deadly crashes involving
Speaker 1: these things. There was a study published. Finally, the things
Speaker 1: are being studied in this regard. There was a study
Speaker 1: published in the JAMA Network and they say that they've
Speaker 1: tracked down e bike injuries back to when we had
Speaker 1: the onset of these things in twenty seventeen, very new.
Speaker 1: In twenty seventeen, there were seven hundred and fifty one
Speaker 1: e bike injuries recorded. Those are ones where somebody fills
Speaker 1: out some paperwork, which would be rare with these things anyway.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we've all fallen off our bikes.
Speaker 1: We've never filled out paperwork for it, so it's got
Speaker 1: to be pretty serious. Seven hundred and fifty one, how
Speaker 1: many do you think there were? Five years after that
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty one. Five years later there were
Speaker 1: twenty four thousand. That speaks to a couple things, the
Speaker 1: proliferation of these things and the whole without abandoned writing
Speaker 1: of these things. Injuries from riding eat scooters rose forty
Speaker 1: five percent over that period. There are anecdotes now we're
Speaker 1: getting just over the weekend, Emiliano Flores eleven years old,
Speaker 1: riding an electric scooter when he collided with a sedan
Speaker 1: put in the hospital with serious injuries. Neighbor heard the
Speaker 1: crash outside her home, says that as soon as I
Speaker 1: came out, I hear a little boy crying.
Speaker 2: And that's what it is. It's a little boy.
Speaker 1: It's an eleven year old who's given something with the
Speaker 1: ability to go as fast as a car, an eleven
Speaker 1: year old. She says, I caught a glimpse of his
Speaker 1: little face. It was so swollen it looked purple. His
Speaker 1: eyes were swollen shut. There are a lot of people
Speaker 1: who ride these things who don't know the rules of
Speaker 1: the road, let alone follow them. April First, couple days
Speaker 1: ago in Orange, two teenagers hospitalized with critical injuries after
Speaker 1: riding a scooter on the wrong side of the road
Speaker 1: and crashing into a car. It is a growing problem
Speaker 1: throughout southern California. You're going to see people flooding the
Speaker 1: city council meetings, police commission meetings asking for something to
Speaker 1: be done. The last time I checked, there is no
Speaker 1: way to prohibit the riding of an e scooter or
Speaker 1: e bike in California. So they're going to have to
Speaker 1: come up with some sort of loopholes when it comes
Speaker 1: to putting in laws for this kind of thing. And
Speaker 1: not to be a spoil sport, not to be a
Speaker 1: oh you're no fun, your grandma's no fun, but the
Speaker 1: idea of an eleven year old riding something that goes
Speaker 1: forty five miles per hour and not knowing the rules.
Speaker 1: If you're eleven, how would you not want to ride that?
Speaker 1: If you're thirteen, whatever, you're a little boy, how would
Speaker 1: you not want that. Of course you're gonna want that,
Speaker 1: and it's okay to have it. That's where the adults
Speaker 1: need to step in.
Speaker 3: Like when I was growing up, we had quads, we
Speaker 3: had dirt bikes, and our parents always like had to
Speaker 3: watch us on them. Like we would ride them throughout
Speaker 3: the neighborhood and it was fun, but our parents were
Speaker 3: always there observing us because these are actual vehicles. And
Speaker 3: just the other day, I was driving home and there's
Speaker 3: this hill and I'm making a right onto the street
Speaker 3: and this kid, and it's near a school on his
Speaker 3: e bike comes from nowhere and just takes the light
Speaker 3: on his e bike and it's like I had no
Speaker 3: time to react. Thankfully, I saw him ahead of time
Speaker 3: and nothing happened. But it's scary, and it's scary for
Speaker 3: the kid and for you as a driver. I mean,
Speaker 3: imagine you don't see I mean, you hit that kid.
Speaker 3: He dies, and you've got that on your conscious to
Speaker 3: your whole life, even though you did nothing wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a bad combination of things.
Speaker 1: And you're right, I mean, that is one of the
Speaker 1: great joys is being able to ride a quad or
Speaker 1: whatever when you're a kid and you don't have your
Speaker 1: license yet. And that was always the coolest thing when
Speaker 1: I had friends with parents that had those. You go
Speaker 1: off roading and stuff. But you're right, You're totally right.
Speaker 1: You were always supervised. There was always somebody in the
Speaker 1: vehicle or near the vehicle with you, not just okay,
Speaker 1: go have fun with your friends, go ride your e
Speaker 1: bike down to the store or whatever.
Speaker 3: And they were always and we were always taught the rules.
Speaker 3: Yeah beforehand, it's crazy. Well you're old, clearly and zero fun.
Speaker 1: Coming back next, we will talk about the sea lions.
Speaker 2: The sea lions are getting a bad rap. Guys. They're
Speaker 2: not dangerous, they're not being violent. They're just poisoned.
Speaker 1: We know somebody who has been having some encounters with
Speaker 1: the crazy sea lions out here locally in the water.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to them when we return.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: New course at UCSB called Critical Heterosexuality Studies. It's basically
Speaker 1: a course about straight relationships. Why straight women continue to
Speaker 1: go back for more is in the headline, and the
Speaker 1: sociologist that teaches the course is a lesbian. I was opining,
Speaker 1: that's interesting why she would talk about how life is
Speaker 1: so hard.
Speaker 2: For straight women, not being one of them. Anyway.
Speaker 1: I've realized that I also am not completely equipped to
Speaker 1: have the conversation. So we've decided to do a deep
Speaker 1: dive on this story and bring in some gay guys
Speaker 1: coming up in the twelve o'clock hour to kind of
Speaker 1: round out the conversation. So it's fascinating. It's the first
Speaker 1: of its course, first of its kind course at UCSB,
Speaker 1: run by the Chair of Feminist Studies about why why
Speaker 1: straight women have it so bad in our world? And
Speaker 1: I think it is a luxury to even ask that question.
Speaker 1: All right, So sea lions, We've got a fifteen year
Speaker 1: old girl attacked by her during her swim test in
Speaker 1: Long Beach by a sea lion. This is the latest
Speaker 1: in a series of stories of sea lions gone crazy.
Speaker 2: Matt Money Smith down the hall.
Speaker 1: Klac, host of the Petres and Money Show, the voice
Speaker 1: of your Los Angeles Chargers as well, joins me because
Speaker 1: he plays in the water from time to time. And Matt,
Speaker 1: I wanted to have you on and I know that
Speaker 1: you're a water rat and that you may have some
Speaker 1: sort of experience with these with these sea lions.
Speaker 2: Have you ever been attacked?
Speaker 5: I have. And it's funny.
Speaker 6: As you were doing the intro about the UCSB course,
Speaker 6: you were like and We're going to have a couple
Speaker 6: of gay guys. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think you Danna knows something about me that I don't.
Speaker 5: It's just what I'm coming on to talk about.
Speaker 2: You're so more than welcome in a twelve o'clock hour.
Speaker 5: It's like I wasn't prepared for this. I guess. See
Speaker 5: that's examination.
Speaker 1: See, that's how you know that you're a good radio
Speaker 1: personality is because you're down for whatever.
Speaker 2: Like you were like, Oh, she's having me on to
Speaker 2: be a gay guy. Cool, I'm not dropping off the line.
Speaker 5: I'm still here. Yeah. Sea lions.
Speaker 6: So there's it's a bummer, man. It's like it's been
Speaker 6: a really big bummer the last month or so. The
Speaker 6: first the first thing I saw was a kind of
Speaker 6: like a pup a porpoise that was dead on the beach.
Speaker 6: That was actually kind of right around your area over
Speaker 6: in the Sunset Beach area. That was probably about a
Speaker 6: month ago, and I just maybe thought it was a
Speaker 6: victim of an attack or something along those lines. And
Speaker 6: then we started seeing a lot of birds, pelicans, mud hens,
Speaker 6: kind of all of those sort of washed up on shore.
Speaker 6: And then we started seeing the sea lions. About three
Speaker 6: weeks ago. I saw the first one at Bolsa Chica
Speaker 6: kind of in the jetty there, the South jetty sort
Speaker 6: of between the very end of Bolsa Chica on the
Speaker 6: south on the very north side of Huntington Beach there.
Speaker 6: And then I kind of had an encounter in the
Speaker 6: water about two weeks ago. I was paddling out and
Speaker 6: it was very I always go out early. I'm usually,
Speaker 6: you know, one of the first people in the water,
Speaker 6: and so there were maybe two or three other guys
Speaker 6: out at the time, and as I paddled in, I
Speaker 6: kind of had heard this sort of snort behind me.
Speaker 2: And what did it sound like, Matt, Yeah, like that a.
Speaker 5: Little it was.
Speaker 6: It was maybe even a little more snarly, like you
Speaker 6: know than that there you go, there you go. Then
Speaker 6: you got it, but it's very loud, and it was
Speaker 6: just kind of one of those startling things, and like,
Speaker 6: what was that? And I turned around and I saw
Speaker 6: this sort of head just kind of I don't know,
Speaker 6: moving around in sort of a circular motion, like looking
Speaker 6: up and and I had remembered reading something about how
Speaker 6: you know, when this demoic acid kind of gets into
Speaker 6: these these sea lions that that's sort of how they behaved.
Speaker 5: It's one of the side effects of it. And it
Speaker 5: was just kind of charging me, and.
Speaker 2: You know, did it take a bite?
Speaker 5: It did not take a bite, but didn't make.
Speaker 2: Them move to take a bite.
Speaker 6: I think it was probably pretty close to doing that
Speaker 6: because it got Look they moved fast. Man, these things
Speaker 6: can cook in the water. And it got right up
Speaker 6: next to me pretty quickly and popped its head out
Speaker 6: and was sort.
Speaker 5: Of right even, and I didn't know what to do.
Speaker 5: I was like, do I sit up? Do I I did?
Speaker 5: I was?
Speaker 2: I did?
Speaker 6: I think it was probably something along the lines of like,
Speaker 6: hey man, what are we doing?
Speaker 5: Like, you know, we're totally.
Speaker 2: Totally good reason with the sea lion, That's kind of.
Speaker 5: What it was.
Speaker 6: And then I kind of got into the pack of
Speaker 6: three or four other guys and then it just sort
Speaker 6: of turned around and because there's nowhere you can go, like,
Speaker 6: it's you're just stuck, you know, which I'm sure what
Speaker 6: happened to the girl that was doing her junior lifeguard test, right,
Speaker 6: You're just stuck out there. It's like, okay, I can't
Speaker 6: I can't paddle further out. I can't paddle toward the shore.
Speaker 6: The sea lion is way too quick and it's going
Speaker 6: to get me no matter what. So let's just hope,
Speaker 6: you know, I can reason with it and be like, hey, dude,
Speaker 6: we're good man.
Speaker 1: Is there part of you that wanted the story, like
Speaker 1: wanted the the line to take a bite, not something
Speaker 1: that would cripple you, but just for the story.
Speaker 6: As I said to Petro's on the show that day
Speaker 6: and shared the story with him, I was like, what
Speaker 6: a great story for you, you know, what a bad story
Speaker 6: for me. It's like one thing to go down, you know,
Speaker 6: via shark or I just you know, rode this gigantic,
Speaker 6: freaking rogue wave that that pounded me into the shore
Speaker 6: and that was it for me.
Speaker 5: But a sea lion, like that's that's not good.
Speaker 6: That that doesn't because you know they're people look at
Speaker 6: them like puppies, right, they're supposed to be, but they're not. Man,
Speaker 6: you got to be you do not want to engage.
Speaker 6: You know, I sent you that video from earlier two
Speaker 6: days ago. There was a and it's just it's so sad, man,
Speaker 6: because they do have those sort of faces, right, these
Speaker 6: these cute animal faces, and this one was just so miserable.
Speaker 6: It couldn't really move, It was just moving its head around.
Speaker 6: When are my dog? And I kind of came up
Speaker 6: upon at about six am and and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just you know, they're sick.
Speaker 6: They they're confused, and I think that's kind of how
Speaker 6: And I was talking to the marine staying if I'm
Speaker 6: talking too much, just interrupt me. I was talking to
Speaker 6: the marine safety people because I called it in and
Speaker 6: when they came out, they were like, yeah, this is
Speaker 6: definitely demoic acid. And I was like, well, it's it
Speaker 6: going to survive and like, yeah, I think so. We've
Speaker 6: just got so many of them right now, and it's
Speaker 6: really hard to kind of keep up with the the
Speaker 6: numbers that are coming in.
Speaker 5: So it's a it's a huge bummer.
Speaker 2: So when when does it go away? Is it a
Speaker 2: seasonal thing?
Speaker 5: Seasonal thing?
Speaker 6: But this is far and away the worst I've seen.
Speaker 6: Every morning when we're walking on the beach, I see
Speaker 6: at least a bird, you know, a mudhen or something
Speaker 6: like that. One maybe two today, I think it was four.
Speaker 1: And they like the angel of death out there, I know,
Speaker 1: right walking around looking at.
Speaker 2: Dead animals and bringing your dog into it too.
Speaker 5: Well, the dog that's the problem.
Speaker 6: You know the dog like smells sure, so you know
Speaker 6: she wants to get in there and play with these things.
Speaker 5: Come on, let's keep it.
Speaker 1: Well, what I'm hearing is there still a chance that
Speaker 1: you get eaten by a sea lion and if you do,
Speaker 1: Matt will love to have you back.
Speaker 5: Well, do you want me to have you back at noon?
Speaker 1: We come back on for the gay guy thing. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: twelve thirty five. We'll see you here.
Speaker 5: Thanks, Matt, you got a Channon.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Financial markets around the world reeling today following the latest
Speaker 1: and most severe news about tariffs. US stock market taking
Speaker 1: it the worst so far. S and P five hundred
Speaker 1: down nearly four percent in afternoon trading, worst day, on
Speaker 1: track for its worst day since COVID in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Dow down about twelve hundred points right now, Nasdaq about
Speaker 1: four point eight percent lower, So we'll.
Speaker 2: Keep an eye on that.
Speaker 1: Probably not going to get better until we get some
Speaker 1: more news about potential backtracking off of this, or maybe
Speaker 1: a potential agreement that will be ironed out between the
Speaker 1: United States and other countries. When it comes to maybe
Speaker 1: more reasonable tariffs also in Washington, and we'll get more
Speaker 1: into this coming up after the new at the top
Speaker 1: of the hour just a little bit. President Trump has
Speaker 1: moved to fire several White House National Security Council officials,
Speaker 1: taking action soon after he was urged to get rid
Speaker 1: of staffers that have been insufficiently committed to his make
Speaker 1: America Great Again agenda. Apparently loyalty has been called into
Speaker 1: question there in the National Security Council department.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: What could potentially have tipped off the president into disloyal troops?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Well, in the La Times there is an article about
Speaker 1: a death row inmate that has put up his journals
Speaker 1: and his art for sale eighty thousand dollars. And you're
Speaker 1: thinking to yourself, probably the way I thought to myself.
Speaker 1: Wasn't there a law? Yes, yes, there was a law
Speaker 1: that says when you kill a bunch of people, or
Speaker 1: at least, in Albert Jones' case, when you killed two people,
Speaker 1: you don't get to benefit financially from killing people. It's
Speaker 1: pretty much standard standard law and order in this country.
Speaker 1: Albert Jones found himself sitting in his cell on San
Speaker 1: Quentin's Death Row in twenty twenty. He had been there
Speaker 1: for three decades, and he starts to get wind of
Speaker 1: a little thing called COVID, And in the following months,
Speaker 1: hundreds of death row inmates fell sick close quarters. We
Speaker 1: heard all about this when it came to close living situations.
Speaker 1: It's why there were so many prisoners let out because
Speaker 1: of liability. When it came to COVID working its way
Speaker 1: through these tight living quarters, whether it's rest homes or
Speaker 1: prisons or what have you. By the end of August
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty, a couple thousand prisoners at San Quentin
Speaker 1: had fallen ill, staff members included. And through it all,
Speaker 1: Albert Jones kept detailed journals chronicling his anxiety over catching COVID.
Speaker 2: Now that's rich, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I'll get to what Albert Jones did to get on
Speaker 1: death Row in a minute. But he had anxiety over
Speaker 1: catching COVID. He wrote at the start of the pandemic
Speaker 1: in one of his journals, the world is on lockdown.
Speaker 1: The state is on full lockdown. The disease is spreading
Speaker 1: so fast. People don't know what to do. Staying in
Speaker 1: their home, all they can do is watch on TV
Speaker 1: like me. Albert Jones wrote that summer in his journal,
Speaker 1: Scott was my next door neighbor for twelve years.
Speaker 2: We had just showered.
Speaker 1: The nurse gave him his meds and then they seen
Speaker 1: how pale his skin was and.
Speaker 2: Loss of weight.
Speaker 1: So they took his oxygen level and it was sixty two.
Speaker 1: So they put him out of his cell, put him
Speaker 1: on oxygen, rolled him off. Three days later he died. Scott,
Speaker 1: by the way, Scott sounds like a nice guy, right, No,
Speaker 1: Scott is Scott erksign. He is a rapist and murderer.
Speaker 1: Scott is anyway. Albert Jones a year and a half
Speaker 1: ago published a memoir he titled it I Survived COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: one of his ten books, two of them collections of
Speaker 1: prison recipes by the Bye. One of his collection of
Speaker 1: ten books that he has written in his years behind bars,
Speaker 1: to which I say, great, like great use of time.
Speaker 1: He's sixty years old. Albert is, why is he on
Speaker 1: death row while in nineteen ninety six he brutally killed
Speaker 1: an elderly couple. That's redundant. Brutally killed an elderly couple,
Speaker 1: isn't it? It was during a robbery in their home.
Speaker 1: These people, by the way, as you can imagine, wonderful people.
Speaker 1: Their daughter in law named Mary says, what gives him
Speaker 1: the right to write a book? My children, their grandchildren,
Speaker 1: they lost their grandparents.
Speaker 2: These were loving people.
Speaker 1: My father in law would have given you the shirt
Speaker 1: off his back, and so sort of Madeline, what the hell?
Speaker 1: Why is this guy being written up in the newspaper.
Speaker 1: Why is he getting money from these books? What the
Speaker 1: hell is going on? Well, if you find a liberal
Speaker 1: with money, get into their gated community, walk into one
Speaker 1: of their many front doors, and find a coffee table
Speaker 1: book inside, that no doubt will be about freeing wrongly
Speaker 1: incarcerated people, because that's just what happens, and that is
Speaker 1: what happened for Albert Jones, Sonoma County bookseller sees his
Speaker 1: collected works as a rare glimpse into one of America's
Speaker 1: most notorious cell blocks.
Speaker 2: He's met with Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 1: He was able to show the governor on site about
Speaker 1: his documenting community life on death Row. His writing and
Speaker 1: prison memorabilia will be auctioned at.
Speaker 2: A posh New York City book fair this month.
Speaker 1: It'll be on display this weekend in fact, the asking
Speaker 1: price eighty thousand dollars. Private collectors are clamoring to get
Speaker 1: their hands on Albert's recipes for prison gumbo and what
Speaker 1: happened to the rapist names got that unfortunately lost his
Speaker 1: life to the Big bad COVID.
Speaker 2: Some of his.
Speaker 1: Personal items there were included an old pair of reading glasses,
Speaker 1: a broken wristwatch. Prison I I'm all for redemption by
Speaker 1: the bye. I am all for a second chance. America's
Speaker 1: built on second chances, third chances. But when you kill
Speaker 1: an elderly couple in their home and the course of
Speaker 1: robbing them, I think you're all out. I think I'm
Speaker 1: fresh out of second chances. Over here, I'm fresh out
Speaker 1: of you making eighty thousand dollars off talking about your
Speaker 1: rapist friend dying from COVID and your anxiety over the
Speaker 1: whole thing kind of flies out the window with the
Speaker 1: dead old couple, doesn't it. There was a law in
Speaker 1: two thousand and two that was struck down by the
Speaker 1: state Supreme Court. California previously prohibited prisoners from financially benefiting
Speaker 1: from selling their stories, but the Supreme Court struck down
Speaker 1: that law. The La Times reached out to the prison
Speaker 1: system about this, and a woman named Terry Hardy is
Speaker 1: a spokesperson for the California Department of Corrections and Rehab
Speaker 1: said that the agency had not been informed about a
Speaker 1: contract to sell Albert's books, and as a precaution, would
Speaker 1: alert the family members, you know, the family that he killed,
Speaker 1: that he'd changed forever, those grandkids that will never know
Speaker 1: their grandparents, that family. It's going to let them know,
Speaker 1: going to let them know. Imagine that phone call anyway,
Speaker 1: But eighty thousand dollars, there you go. They say that
Speaker 1: the book collectors that are all about spreading Albert Jones's
Speaker 1: stories say his archive might show the world what kind
Speaker 1: of artistry and human connection is possible in a place
Speaker 1: designed to crush creativity and ultimately execute people. Now, the
Speaker 1: people executed were the.
Speaker 2: Family.
Speaker 1: God, I've said Albert James's Albert Jones's names? How many times?
Speaker 1: How many times have I said Albert's name in the
Speaker 1: past eight minutes? Probably like seven or eight times? How
Speaker 1: many times have I said the people who were killed names?
Speaker 2: None? Shame on me.
Speaker 1: James and Madeleine Floraville were their name. James was eighty two,
Speaker 1: Madeline was seventy two probably didn't put much of a
Speaker 1: fight before they were brutally murdered inside their home, did they? Anyway,
Speaker 1: There you have it all right. Coming up next San Francisco.
Speaker 1: PS is a bit of good news here. They're finding
Speaker 1: their way. This was from the New York Times, by
Speaker 1: the way, and the headline is We've lost our way.
Speaker 1: San Francisco rethinking their drug paraphernalia handouts. Here's the opening line,
Speaker 1: caught me, should catch you too. Plastic straws or band
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. But if you smoke fentanyl, you can
Speaker 1: get plastic straws for free at taxpayer's expense. That may
Speaker 1: be going by the wayside. Finally, we'll talk about it
Speaker 1: when we come back.
Speaker 4: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI
Speaker 4: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Heartbreaking story out of Oxnard where a thirteen year old
Speaker 1: boy's body has been found. He was reported missing out
Speaker 1: of the valley on Sunday. Trying to stay on top
Speaker 1: of that information and get more as it comes in.
Speaker 1: They did have information as to where his body would
Speaker 1: be in a wooded area there in Oxnard, and there
Speaker 1: may be there being a choi about it, but there
Speaker 1: may be somebody that they're looking at. How could there
Speaker 1: not be if there wasn't If this was a random
Speaker 1: boy that was taken off the street and killed and
Speaker 1: there was no connection to anybody, I would think that
Speaker 1: we would know if that was the case. So they
Speaker 1: must have somebody in mind, So we will be staying
Speaker 1: on top of that. In the New York Times this morning,
Speaker 1: talking about San Francisco losing its way, and I did
Speaker 1: not see this one eighty I haven't really been paying
Speaker 1: attention to what's going on in San Francisco either, but
Speaker 1: good news to bring you today. They open the story,
Speaker 1: like I mentioned before the break, talking about plastic straws
Speaker 1: being banned in San Francisco unless if you're smoking fentanyl,
Speaker 1: then you get one for free. Oh and by the way,
Speaker 1: the taxpayers bought it for you. Daniel Lurie is the
Speaker 1: moderate Democrat who became the city's new mayor in January.
Speaker 2: Moderate Democrat.
Speaker 1: Wow, that definition has probably changed a lot, but anyway,
Speaker 1: Daniel Lurie said this week that things have gone too
Speaker 1: far in San Francisco. He announced yesterday a new policy
Speaker 1: that walks back the free distribution of clean foil pipes
Speaker 1: and plastic straws on the streets of San Francisco. These
Speaker 1: were used to smoke fentanyl, meth all it. The city
Speaker 1: spending hundreds of thousands of dollars a year just on
Speaker 1: these things, just on the enabling tools. And I call
Speaker 1: them that because as long as it's comfortable to do
Speaker 1: your drugs or whatever's ruining your life, as long as
Speaker 1: it's comfortable, you gonna keep doing it.
Speaker 2: It's got to be uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: And if you're not making it uncomfortable, then then somebody else.
Speaker 1: Certainly the city shouldn't be paying for it with other
Speaker 1: people's money to make it comfortable.
Speaker 2: And that's what's been going on.
Speaker 1: Look no further than a billboard in San Francisco five
Speaker 1: years ago. The billboard was paid for by the city,
Speaker 1: paid for by people who live there. I should say
Speaker 1: that pay taxes the people who have to trapes over
Speaker 1: the people who are losing their lives every day on
Speaker 1: the street and living in zombieville on fentanyl. The billboard
Speaker 1: showed smiling people wearing glitter and sequence and they're having
Speaker 1: a great time, and the caption said do it with friends.
Speaker 1: The takeaway being you you're going to go out, You're
Speaker 1: going to do drugs. You're going to go party, do
Speaker 1: it with friends. That way you won't overdose on your own.
Speaker 1: It was kind of like a message, it's okay, just
Speaker 1: don't die as a zombie and the tenderloin alone when
Speaker 1: you could have a friend there with you that could
Speaker 1: grab maybe some narcan nearby. But this is the latest sign,
Speaker 1: the mayor's announcement yesterday, that they're moving away from this ideology,
Speaker 1: which is excellent. It's great voters have said that this
Speaker 1: is what they want there, and you wonder how that's
Speaker 1: going to impact what's going on in the conversation here
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: We talked to Michael Monks yesterday.
Speaker 1: We've talked about it all week, ever since last week
Speaker 1: when that judge in downtown LA had the mayor and
Speaker 1: the head of the county Board of Supervisors in front
Speaker 1: of him and he said.
Speaker 2: The hell are you doing? What are you doing with
Speaker 2: all this money.
Speaker 1: That the voters have approved to eradicate homelessness. You're spending it,
Speaker 1: but you're not even keeping track of it. And the
Speaker 1: homeless people are still there. So what's what's going on?
Speaker 1: The gravy train is coming to an end here and
Speaker 1: people are getting fed up with the ideology of just
Speaker 1: give them clean needles and they'll be okay and you
Speaker 1: can go on living your sanitized life on the West Side.
Speaker 1: San Francisco leading the way I think we got to follow.
Speaker 1: The new mayor said just that walking around the Tenderloin
Speaker 1: this week. We have lost our way. Other California, Citi's
Speaker 1: La Seattle, Portland, New York, all places that have been
Speaker 1: pretty permissive when it comes to giving basically kits of
Speaker 1: drug paraphernalia to people in the street. San Francisco taking
Speaker 1: the crown time and time again well as of the
Speaker 1: end of this month. As of April thirtieth, all paraphernalia
Speaker 1: will only be distributed to those who undergo lengthy counseling
Speaker 1: sessions that are designed to steer them into treatment or
Speaker 1: toward other resolutions. So maybe you know the methodone route
Speaker 1: somebody wants to get off heroin. You're going to help
Speaker 1: them do that in a safe way, and that is
Speaker 1: that's the thing, that's the care and the stick. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: you have agreed for treatment, you've agreed for rehab, you've
Speaker 1: agreed this is not what you want for your life.
Speaker 1: All right, We'll help you out with that, and that's
Speaker 1: the way it should be, not though. We'll help you
Speaker 1: out with that, and you haven't come to a decision
Speaker 1: that you want to change. So good news in that regard.
Speaker 1: Coming up next. How did it get to be eleven
Speaker 1: o'clock already, We've got swamp watched Trump's firing people in
Speaker 1: Washington because they're not loyal security officials. We'll get into
Speaker 1: that Wall Street, we'll get an update on that. Not
Speaker 1: going to spend a lot of time because it's Thursday,
Speaker 1: it's almost Friday. We don't want bad news, bad news
Speaker 1: heading into the weekend. And ps we talked to all
Speaker 1: the money guys and they said, do not panic today.
Speaker 1: This is going to be what happens with the markets
Speaker 1: when any time the word tariff enters the chat. And
Speaker 1: this is Trump's way of doing business and it'll all
Speaker 1: hopefully even out. So I won't spend too much time
Speaker 1: on that big twelve o'clock hour as well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: deep dive into the story about that new course at UCSB,
Speaker 1: all about straight hood of course, talking about the science
Speaker 1: of being straight.
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