WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:04.320 You're listening to Later with Mo Kelly on demand from 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:06.160 KFI A M six forty. 3 00:00:13.599 --> 00:00:15.199 Now key. 4 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:29.079 Social media, Facebook gets to x, TikTok, viralde. 5 00:00:28.079 --> 00:00:31.039 Off, viral load, viral load. 6 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:34.719 For viral load, BARLOONDI may. 7 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:39.159 KF I am six forty. I guess we can say 8 00:00:39.159 --> 00:00:41.399 it now. It's Later with Mo Kelly. We're live everywhere 9 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:45.240 on the iHeartRadio app, We're live on YouTube. It's nice 10 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:49.560 to see you, Tiffany Hobbs. Let's get to the viral load. Okay, 11 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:50.960 good evening everyone. 12 00:00:51.159 --> 00:00:51.439 Well. 13 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:57.320 Viral stories are essentially shaping the face of the news 14 00:00:57.719 --> 00:01:00.840 as we've seen it play out since from I would 15 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:05.799 say Friday seemed to be the kickoff of this immigration 16 00:01:06.319 --> 00:01:11.719 raid and protest kind of cacophony across the news media. 17 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:16.239 And these viral stories involve a lot of people creating content, 18 00:01:16.560 --> 00:01:20.719 some based in rumor, some based in fact, but all 19 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:25.599 absolutely being shared across different mediums to not only share 20 00:01:25.680 --> 00:01:30.159 information about what's going on, but also to alert people 21 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:35.400 they feel could be subjected to these immigration raids. One 22 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:38.040 of the things that I did on Friday was actually 23 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:42.319 create my own form of content. On Friday, I went 24 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:46.200 into the protest zone in downtown LA, because I live 25 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:51.120 close to where the kind of kickoff of these protests 26 00:01:51.159 --> 00:01:55.799 happen at the Edward R. Royball Federal Building where c 27 00:01:56.040 --> 00:01:58.959 SEI President David Whetta was being held. 28 00:01:59.000 --> 00:01:59.920 He's since been. 29 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:03.359 Really you heard, I told the story yesterday about doing 30 00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:04.719 federal grand jury. 31 00:02:04.879 --> 00:02:08.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, So right there, right there, right there, 32 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:13.319 So drove right there. That's Alameda and Commercial. It's just 33 00:02:13.560 --> 00:02:17.560 south of Temple Street. Right there in the Olvera Street zone, 34 00:02:17.759 --> 00:02:21.599 in the Federal District zone right there is where everything 35 00:02:21.840 --> 00:02:25.000 kicked off. So just to let you guys know what 36 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:29.199 I did, I drove into this zone and just wanted to, 37 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:32.759 out of my own curiosity, see what was going on 38 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:38.120 with my own eyes, drove in. It was largely uneventful 39 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:42.360 at the time. I got in, saw a lot of protesters. There, 40 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:46.840 saw a kind of a main stage where there was 41 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:51.439 someone who at the time was leading speeches and chants 42 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:56.680 and encouraging people to continue to be positive and to 43 00:02:56.759 --> 00:03:01.199 be peaceful. That was interesting to me because while the 44 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:06.520 crowd appeared largely peaceful and uneventful, there were the signs, 45 00:03:06.599 --> 00:03:10.479 There were the call in response chants, there were you know, 46 00:03:10.599 --> 00:03:16.080 marches that lasted a few blocks in distance. The response 47 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:22.400 to that by LAPD was massive, and you saw LAPD 48 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:25.759 on Friday, this is around six pm, just as this 49 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:29.080 all was starting because of what had happened in Paramount 50 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:32.319 earlier in the afternoon, because of what had happened in 51 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:37.479 the Westlake district in downtown earlier Friday afternoon. You saw 52 00:03:37.520 --> 00:03:43.039 this increasing police presence at the entrances and exits to 53 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:46.759 the one oh one and five freeway interchange there, and 54 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:50.879 you saw these police cars lined up with their officers 55 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:54.080 standing outside in front of the cars, holding the batons 56 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:59.120 in full shields and full padded everything. It looked to 57 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:03.400 be what people are describing on social media as a 58 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:10.919 militarized response, and that militarized response was in in tandem 59 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:13.919 with what was happening, but it looked to be, in 60 00:04:14.000 --> 00:04:19.160 my opinion, kind of an overreach, if you will, given 61 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:22.160 what I experienced while I was there on Friday. Like 62 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:25.720 I said, there was chanting, there was marching, There were 63 00:04:25.800 --> 00:04:28.800 people who were highly emotional, There were people on foot, 64 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:31.439 there were people in cars. There were flags of all 65 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:37.399 different country backgrounds and affiliations. But at that time people 66 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:42.439 were joined by how peaceful they were committed to being 67 00:04:43.360 --> 00:04:48.800 now Saturday, I was on air, and Saturday seemed to 68 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:52.319 be when things changed a bit. You still had the 69 00:04:52.439 --> 00:04:57.120 protests going on in Paramount, you still had things going 70 00:04:57.160 --> 00:05:01.160 on around the city, including in downtown LA. But while 71 00:05:01.160 --> 00:05:04.480 I was on air for Saturdays with Tiffany, right around 72 00:05:04.519 --> 00:05:08.279 five point thirty pm, we got a notification that there 73 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:13.759 was a black Hawk helicopter landing in Paramount, and social 74 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:19.920 media went crazy with their sightings, with their accounts, their 75 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:23.079 first hand accounts, their shared accounts of what they were seeing. 76 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:28.279 And there's one social media influencer who went especially viral. 77 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:31.839 His name is Harry Sisson's. He considers himself to be 78 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:35.360 an influencer who leans a little to the left, I 79 00:05:35.399 --> 00:05:39.600 would say, And his post was sharing about that black 80 00:05:39.639 --> 00:05:44.199 Hawk helicopter landing in Paramount. It was seen by one 81 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:48.480 point five million people at the time. 82 00:05:48.800 --> 00:05:53.480 Don't run past that it's a black Hawk black Hawk helicopter, yeah, 83 00:05:53.519 --> 00:05:59.560 which connotes a very militarized idea in the middle of 84 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:00.000 the city. 85 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:04.519 Absolutely, so, this helicopter lands in Paramount as a response 86 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:08.480 to the protest in Paramount and Compton at the time, 87 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:11.279 right there on the border there of Paramount and Compton. 88 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:15.240 There's a Department of Homeland Security office right there in 89 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:19.399 that zone, and the Blackhawk helicopter landed there and was 90 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:26.519 seen unloading ammunition, less lethal rounds, tanks, all sorts of 91 00:06:26.639 --> 00:06:32.199 things that were very militarized. And the person's account of that, 92 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:38.120 Harry Sisson, this influencer, his shared post again shared by 93 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:42.279 millions of people, seen by millions of people, really did 94 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.920 shape how people were seeing the events of Saturday unfold. 95 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:51.560 I'm on air, I'm reporting about this, I'm seeing things 96 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.439 on the news, I'm seeing things in social media, and 97 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:58.279 you start to really feel kind of this ground swell 98 00:06:58.319 --> 00:07:01.879 of information immerse and like I said in the beginning 99 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.519 of this, some fact, some rumor, but all of it 100 00:07:05.639 --> 00:07:11.040 was geared toward informing people all around southern California of 101 00:07:11.120 --> 00:07:15.240 where immigration and customs enforcement might strike. 102 00:07:15.600 --> 00:07:19.360 Next Part two of the viral load. Tiffany hops in 103 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:19.879 just a moment. 104 00:07:19.879 --> 00:07:22.240 It's Later with mo Kelly KFIM six forty Live everywhere 105 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:23.920 on YouTube and the iHeartRadio app. 106 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.879 You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from 107 00:07:28.000 --> 00:07:29.600 KFI AM six forty. 108 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:32.120 K if I AM six forty is Later with mo 109 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:34.839 Kelly Live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app. Let's continue with 110 00:07:34.879 --> 00:07:36.560 the viral load and Tiffany hops. 111 00:07:37.120 --> 00:07:40.680 From Friday until today, there have been lots of posts 112 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:43.759 across social media, and that's what we're talking about, how 113 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:49.199 imagery and videos are really shaping these immigration protests, these 114 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:54.040 anti ice protests since they started on Friday in downtown 115 00:07:54.240 --> 00:07:58.160 LA in the Westlake District. So what I've seen personally 116 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.560 and you might have as well, is an abundance of 117 00:08:01.720 --> 00:08:06.920 posting across different neighborhood or community apps. You have apps 118 00:08:07.040 --> 00:08:11.439 like the Citizen app, which usually documents crime of the 119 00:08:11.600 --> 00:08:17.079 small or larger variety. Well, Citizen has certainly been inundated 120 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:23.879 with thousands of posts since Friday about ice sightings, about 121 00:08:24.000 --> 00:08:29.800 purported ice detainments, about all sorts of warnings for community 122 00:08:29.839 --> 00:08:33.840 members who could be directly affected by what's happening with 123 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:37.720 immigration and customs enforcement. The same can be said for 124 00:08:38.240 --> 00:08:42.320 next door, where neighbors share directly with each other about 125 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:46.919 what's happening in their neighborhood. And you've had neighborhoods from 126 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:50.720 the South Bay all the way up into Ventura County, 127 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:55.919 and as well the ring Slash Neighbors app, which is 128 00:08:55.960 --> 00:08:59.960 probably one of the newest entries into the viral scene 129 00:09:00.519 --> 00:09:03.919 of news sharing, and that's what I want to focus 130 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.000 on for a moment, because I have the Ring app. 131 00:09:07.039 --> 00:09:10.960 That's that device you can put on your door to monitor. 132 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:14.080 It's a camera device. You know, it's security and they 133 00:09:14.120 --> 00:09:16.639 have their own app attached to it so you can 134 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:22.559 share information. And since Friday, I've seen hundreds of posts 135 00:09:22.600 --> 00:09:28.120 across the Neighbors app with people simply asking what's going on? 136 00:09:28.759 --> 00:09:32.320 What are those loud noises. People have been asking about 137 00:09:32.360 --> 00:09:36.080 the flash bang noises. People have been asking how to 138 00:09:36.759 --> 00:09:42.360 respond to tear gas or any other sort of chemical 139 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:46.600 inhalent that they might come into contact with. People have 140 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:51.519 been asking how to avoid going into areas. Most recently, 141 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:55.720 people are asking about the curfew. What does the curfew 142 00:09:55.759 --> 00:09:58.600 mean if you are on the edge of the boundary 143 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:02.240 like I find my self being. And that then brings 144 00:10:02.320 --> 00:10:06.320 me back to my own personal experience with living near 145 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:11.279 the directly affected impact zone of this one mile or 146 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.279 one square mile radius where this curfew is now underway. 147 00:10:16.279 --> 00:10:19.440 I live just outside of it, but because I am 148 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:24.399 close to it, we have absolutely started to see protest 149 00:10:24.519 --> 00:10:29.840 activity or hear of possible protest activity coming into our 150 00:10:29.919 --> 00:10:34.000 neighborhood as they are being pushed out of downtown LA. 151 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:36.080 I went back on Sunday. 152 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:39.320 Remember I started this by saying that I visited the zone, 153 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:41.919 the protest zone, that's what I'm calling it, there at 154 00:10:41.960 --> 00:10:46.000 the Federal Building on Friday when all of this just started, 155 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:50.840 and it was fairly quiet. It's fairly uneventful. Emotional, yes, 156 00:10:51.200 --> 00:10:58.519 but not violent. Going back Sunday was a different experience altogether. 157 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:02.360 I found myself in the middle of the same zone 158 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:05.919 on Sunday with about the same amount of people, a 159 00:11:05.960 --> 00:11:10.480 few hundred. The counts are up to one thousand. I 160 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:13.200 didn't see a thousand people, not to say that that 161 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:16.120 wasn't that they weren't present, but in where I was, 162 00:11:16.200 --> 00:11:19.080 there were a few hundred people. And we ended up 163 00:11:19.159 --> 00:11:23.440 driving along the one on one North just to kind 164 00:11:23.480 --> 00:11:26.080 of be looky lose because the one on one North 165 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.440 was open. The one on one South at the time 166 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:32.279 was closed. And when we got right there to the 167 00:11:32.600 --> 00:11:36.879 closure area of the one on one kind of five interchange, 168 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:41.799 you did see quite a few squad cars with damage. 169 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:44.399 You did see, and these are parked on the freeway. 170 00:11:44.720 --> 00:11:48.440 You did see people on the overpasses and at the 171 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:51.720 time we didn't see any projectiles, we saw evidence of 172 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:55.919 something having happened. So we circled back around, came back 173 00:11:55.960 --> 00:12:00.360 into the zone right by Alva Street, right there, cross 174 00:12:00.399 --> 00:12:04.399 from Union Station, if you will, and that's when things 175 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:08.279 really took a turn and got got hairy, got a 176 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:11.720 little dangerous. So we're in a vehicle and there are 177 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:15.120 people walking everywhere, there are cars moving through. Were pointed 178 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.840 westbound looking at the one oh one freeway right by. 179 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.559 I think that is hmm, I don't remember West Street. 180 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:25.120 It's just west of Alameda. And as we're sitting there, 181 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:29.440 we're in traffic and we're stuck. We can't move, we're monitoring. 182 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:32.919 Things are tense, but we didn't feel like we were in 183 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:36.440 any danger. We really felt the emotion of the crowd 184 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:40.759 until we started to see people run, and then we 185 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:46.080 felt the panic of the crowd. People started running northbound 186 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:49.679 on this street that's a north and southbound street, and 187 00:12:49.720 --> 00:12:53.480 they were covering their faces. You know what that means. 188 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.320 That means in the way that they were covering their 189 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:59.360 faces wasn't to obscure their identity. No, it was to 190 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:02.679 be able to breathe. And people started yelling and screaming 191 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:08.159 that there were tear gas canisters that were deployed and 192 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:11.600 people were now inhaling all of this tear gas that 193 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:16.279 was fastly approaching our vehicle. We're in the car, we 194 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.440 can't move now, we're not documenting now, We're right in 195 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.320 the thick of things, and we have to make a 196 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:24.559 decision to get out of there to be safe. So 197 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:27.399 we rolled up the windows closed all the events. People 198 00:13:27.480 --> 00:13:30.159 were literally kind of sliding over the hood of the 199 00:13:30.240 --> 00:13:32.720 car to get out of the way. It was a 200 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:35.639 melee and people were running for I imagine at the 201 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:38.559 time what they thought were their lives because they were 202 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:41.919 certainly panic stricken. So we were able to navigate get 203 00:13:41.919 --> 00:13:44.519 out of there, did not sustain any damage luckily to 204 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:47.279 any vehicles. We did see the remnants of the way 205 00:13:47.399 --> 00:13:51.000 mos that were still there that had happened earlier that 206 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:54.960 day on Sunday, and we got out of there. We 207 00:13:55.080 --> 00:13:59.000 spent about an hour driving around the zone because of traffic, 208 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:03.480 just to take pictures. And that's what this entire protest 209 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:10.120 has been largely about documentation, documentation and sharing and posting 210 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:12.360 of what people are seeing. There are a number of 211 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:15.279 images that have been picked up by the AP, by 212 00:14:15.440 --> 00:14:18.879 CNN that have been circulated, and these images are going 213 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:21.320 to go down in history. They'll be on the cover 214 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:24.840 of magazines and the cover of newspapers for years to 215 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:29.799 come because they have become iconic imagery associated with this 216 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:34.559 latest round of protests. And the main objective, the main 217 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:38.960 focus of these pictures that I've seen circulating, is to 218 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:44.399 show that the protesters, the people involved, are proud, at 219 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:48.120 least from my vantage point, to be here, but that 220 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:53.840 they want equality and that they want representation, and that 221 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:57.559 they do not want the representation of immigration and customs 222 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:01.440 enforcement in their neighborhoods. That's what the flags say, that's 223 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:04.279 or what they what they denote, That's what the. 224 00:15:04.200 --> 00:15:05.679 Posters are all saying. 225 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:10.440 And it definitely will be a time in which the 226 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:15.279 chronicling on social media will continue to shape the narrative. 227 00:15:16.519 --> 00:15:20.919 Fantastic recap. I'm glad that you're safe. You're a dancy safe. 228 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:22.879 But you know, it's one thing watching on TV. 229 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.399 It's another thing to experience it and see it up close, 230 00:15:25.519 --> 00:15:28.639 you know, for the safety of your home. It's one thing, yeah, 231 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:32.639 but when you see it and feel it, completely. 232 00:15:32.159 --> 00:15:35.200 Different experience and if I may I do discourage people 233 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:38.519 from going down there with their curiosities. Now's not the 234 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.919 time the curfew is in effect. We're not planning to 235 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:46.559 do that, even though I'm media, because it's it's just 236 00:15:46.600 --> 00:15:47.639 not wise. 237 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:48.480 It's not wise. 238 00:15:48.960 --> 00:15:50.240 You don't want to catch a rubber bullet. 239 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:51.440 Don't want to catch a rubber bullet. 240 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:56.120 Definitely saw them being deployed upon people, and there were 241 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:00.360 people who were agitating the officers and who did not 242 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.600 look to be at all involved with any sort of 243 00:16:03.679 --> 00:16:07.919 anti ice mission. They seem to have their own agenda, 244 00:16:08.120 --> 00:16:11.759 as we see with these sorts of protests. Professional agitator, 245 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:13.879 professional agitators. 246 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.039 You're listening to Later with mo Kelly on demand from 247 00:16:18.159 --> 00:16:27.759 KFI AM six forty. 248 00:16:27.080 --> 00:16:29.000 If I AM six forties Later with Mo Kelly Live 249 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:31.600 everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and on YouTube having a 250 00:16:31.639 --> 00:16:35.720 spirited conversation in Motown amongst the momigas. If you want 251 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:39.360 to join in, get on YouTube at mister Mokelly. I 252 00:16:39.399 --> 00:16:42.600 would recommend that you like and subscribe. It makes it 253 00:16:42.639 --> 00:16:46.000 easier for you to find it next time. Let's say 254 00:16:46.000 --> 00:16:49.320 you want to get into Motown and you forgot where 255 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.000 it is, It'll just come right up on your YouTube 256 00:16:52.519 --> 00:16:55.919 liked selection, so it's easy to find. Also, we have 257 00:16:55.960 --> 00:16:58.240 a live link there, so you just click on that. 258 00:16:58.279 --> 00:16:59.879 You don't have to worry about whether it's the correction. 259 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:01.720 You know what, I feel like, I'm in the mood 260 00:17:01.720 --> 00:17:04.640 for an extended version of the viral load, and I know, 261 00:17:04.839 --> 00:17:07.480 Tiffany Hobbes, there are probably some other things going on, 262 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.519 maybe in general social media, things that you might have seen. Well, 263 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:13.480 put it this way, let me just tell you if 264 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:17.319 you've seen the same things that I've seen, I see 265 00:17:17.359 --> 00:17:22.440 that social media is now an agent to try to 266 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:28.119 shape how we perceive the news in the moment that 267 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:32.680 it's happening. I noticed that when we were going through 268 00:17:33.200 --> 00:17:36.559 what the protests were going to become, you could see 269 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:39.519 that if there were two sides as far as trying 270 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:44.000 to depict it a certain way, LA is burning down 271 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:47.519 or it's a completely nonviolent protests. 272 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:50.759 Do you remember with the fires, when all of those 273 00:17:50.920 --> 00:17:54.160 memes went out on social media and people around the 274 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:57.400 country would check in with you to see and make 275 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:01.160 sure that the entire city of Los Angelis was not 276 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:03.920 on fire and that you weren't affected because the pictures 277 00:18:03.920 --> 00:18:06.359 that were going out were it was like a map 278 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:09.480 of California and you would see flames all over it 279 00:18:09.519 --> 00:18:12.519 that someone generated and shared and it would go viral. 280 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:14.680 And that's the narrative that people ran with if they 281 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:18.200 didn't know any better. Same thing with these protests. And 282 00:18:18.279 --> 00:18:22.000 because there are people on the ground, and because everyone 283 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:26.240 has a phone in their hands, they're able to control 284 00:18:26.359 --> 00:18:30.519 the story, to write the story as it's happening, to 285 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:34.480 dispel any sort of myth, or dispel any sort of 286 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:37.640 stereotyping or anything that's not to their advantage. 287 00:18:37.839 --> 00:18:39.559 And that's on both sides. 288 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:43.440 And also I've seen that we have a generation of people, 289 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:46.200 it's not my generation. I would say it's thirty and younger, 290 00:18:46.680 --> 00:18:50.519 who get all of their news or the perception of 291 00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:53.079 the world in which they live, and they view it 292 00:18:53.160 --> 00:18:56.519 through the prism of social media. You know, the people 293 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.880 that they trust, the influencers who they follow, or the 294 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:03.839 things that they see without necessarily knowing how to verify 295 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.440 the authenticity, they just kind of run with it. And 296 00:19:07.519 --> 00:19:12.359 so you have this belief system running through cyberspace of 297 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.079 a given event, which may or may not be accurate, 298 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:20.440 and oftentimes breaking news happens in such a way that 299 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:22.640 not even traditional news can. 300 00:19:22.599 --> 00:19:24.440 Keep up with it absolutely. 301 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:29.200 Take TikTok for instance, there's an entire generation of people 302 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.759 under twenty one, probably even younger than that, who are 303 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:38.319 going to TikTok especially for their news. And this news 304 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:43.119 is in its minutia. It's minute by minute, very detailed. 305 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:47.160 But because it's coming out and you've set this a 306 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:49.440 number of times, MO, it's something that I really live 307 00:19:49.480 --> 00:19:53.400 by now. It's important not to be first, but to 308 00:19:53.519 --> 00:19:57.240 be correct and to be accurate. All of this news 309 00:19:57.279 --> 00:20:00.920 that's coming out is not going through an ac recive filter. 310 00:20:01.359 --> 00:20:04.559 It's just out there and people then have to parse 311 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:08.400 through and use their media literacy to kind of figure 312 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:12.440 out what's right and what's not. And because TikTok is 313 00:20:12.440 --> 00:20:15.279 the most popular one for kids, there's a lot of 314 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:18.680 fear mongering going on right now where the posts are 315 00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:21.519 coming out and they're really scaring people. 316 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:23.799 And I talk about that, and I was arguing. 317 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:27.839 I was doing Cissen McCain, which is the video podcast 318 00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.559 of Megan McCain, and I was in pitch battle with 319 00:20:30.839 --> 00:20:35.000 their chat group who was not in La, Yes, who 320 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:37.640 was determined to tell me what was actually going on 321 00:20:37.720 --> 00:20:39.680 in LA And I'm trying to tell people now I 322 00:20:39.759 --> 00:20:43.640 was born, was like, I live seven miles from downtown. Yes, okay, 323 00:20:43.960 --> 00:20:47.400 I drive through downtown every single day. There's nothing you 324 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:51.400 can tell me about what's happening in LA from the 325 00:20:52.359 --> 00:20:55.559 privacy of your home in Arizona or Chicago. And they 326 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:59.160 were trying to say, well, I saw this, I saw that. Yes, 327 00:20:59.519 --> 00:21:01.920 but you don't know that Santa Anna is forty two 328 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:03.599 miles from downtown LA. 329 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:05.559 That has nothing to do with the city of La 330 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:09.039 or Karen both. You lack scope of perspective. 331 00:21:09.200 --> 00:21:10.359 Yes, in context. 332 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:12.920 It's funny you say that because those people who are 333 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:15.680 arguing with you, they just want to be right. They 334 00:21:15.680 --> 00:21:17.039 want to be right, and they want to be first 335 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.960 of the information, and they just want to, you know, 336 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:22.559 kind of put you in your place as a journalist. 337 00:21:22.799 --> 00:21:23.400 Absolutely. 338 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:24.359 And then there are the. 339 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:28.799 People whose intentions are a lot less nefarious. Your cousin 340 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:32.599 from Wyoming or your aunt in my case from New York. 341 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:35.920 It's just checking on me to make sure that I 342 00:21:35.960 --> 00:21:39.799 am not you know, having tear gas rain down upon 343 00:21:39.960 --> 00:21:41.839 me just in my every waking moment. 344 00:21:42.000 --> 00:21:45.200 Yeah, And talking about social media, it's not uncommon if 345 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:48.480 you're on meta Facebook, specifically that if there is something 346 00:21:49.119 --> 00:21:52.839 large enough dangerous enough, Facebook will ask you if you 347 00:21:52.839 --> 00:21:54.039 want to mark yourself safe. 348 00:21:54.160 --> 00:21:55.240 Yes, never happened. 349 00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:59.319 Never happened, because it never rose to that level. It's unnecessary. 350 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:01.599 And those of a who live here, especially those of 351 00:22:01.640 --> 00:22:05.039 us who live in close proximity like myself to what's 352 00:22:05.119 --> 00:22:08.440 going on, we know that it is a very small 353 00:22:08.480 --> 00:22:13.119 section of a huge city that's affected. And even within 354 00:22:13.240 --> 00:22:18.720 those boundaries, what was happening was sensationalized because these images 355 00:22:18.759 --> 00:22:22.519 were being circulated over and over again. So it seems, 356 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:25.640 certainly if you're on the outside, like things are just 357 00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:29.400 burning down and there are just thousands of cars on 358 00:22:29.519 --> 00:22:33.319 fire on the freeway, when in reality that wasn't the case. 359 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:35.119 I have to find this. 360 00:22:36.440 --> 00:22:39.920 Thread that someone sent to me, which was so perfect 361 00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:43.640 in its formulation. I hope I can find it soon enough. 362 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:48.759 But oh here it is media literacy tip. Just because 363 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:51.319 you see one thousand pictures of the same car on 364 00:22:51.400 --> 00:22:54.000 fire doesn't mean that one thousand car cars are on 365 00:22:54.039 --> 00:22:54.880 tap exactly. 366 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:57.880 I didn't see that, but that's exactly what I'm saying. 367 00:22:57.960 --> 00:23:02.079 We're and people who are not media literate or savvy, 368 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:05.160 they don't know the difference between live and be role. 369 00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:07.680 They don't, And b roll is something which may be 370 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.079 played in perpetuity again and again and again, and you 371 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:13.599 see it at seven o'clock. You may see it from 372 00:23:13.640 --> 00:23:16.200 a slightly different angle at eight thirty or nine o'clock, 373 00:23:16.359 --> 00:23:17.960 but it's the same b roll. 374 00:23:18.200 --> 00:23:22.039 And the algorithm is being shaped by what people are posting. 375 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:24.720 So if people in a certain region are posting all 376 00:23:24.759 --> 00:23:27.279 about the same thing, and those things are being then 377 00:23:27.359 --> 00:23:30.759 shared in other areas of the country, the algorithm will 378 00:23:30.839 --> 00:23:35.160 shape itself to show you more of that same content. 379 00:23:35.359 --> 00:23:38.720 So whereas you might see your kittens and your puppies 380 00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.279 and your other things on your timeline on a normal day, 381 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:46.200 because your timeline is flooded with this information, that's what 382 00:23:46.440 --> 00:23:49.759 is going to be shown to you, because there's engagement there. 383 00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.039 When I was talking about when I was on earlier today, 384 00:23:52.079 --> 00:23:53.920 I hope to get some clips. When I was on 385 00:23:54.000 --> 00:23:56.799 Citizen McCain talking to Megan McCain, trying to explain not 386 00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:59.559 to straight to her, but more her audience that when 387 00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:03.519 you say La most people who are not from California 388 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:06.440 don't know the distinction between La City and La County. No, 389 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.359 they don't and they don't know that Santa Ana is 390 00:24:09.400 --> 00:24:12.799 in a different city, different county, forty two miles away 391 00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:15.920 from downtown. They don't know that Paramount is twenty two 392 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:19.279 miles from downtown. As far as they're concerned, it's the 393 00:24:19.319 --> 00:24:22.440 same city because it's connected to the same story. 394 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:24.880 One of the things that I've enjoyed is that people 395 00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:28.480 who are local to LA or have some accurate knowledge 396 00:24:28.519 --> 00:24:33.480 of our landscape of our mapping, have been sharing maps 397 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:38.920 showing specifically where the protest zone is with a circle 398 00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:43.559 encasing the zone, so that people can have perspective about 399 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:47.480 the size of LA and LA County and southern California 400 00:24:47.519 --> 00:24:51.400 as a region versus this one square mile that's impacted. 401 00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:54.759