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<v Speaker 1>We've gone back in time to the fifteen hundreds. We've

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<v Speaker 1>played death row baseball games, We've gone through urban legends,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been your master of ceremonies the whole way.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacko, and ladies and gentlemen, theys and them's it's all

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<v Speaker 1>Hallo's Eve with wicked and grim.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit, that that was something that somehow. How's it going, guys, Jacalie,

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<v Speaker 2>you sound excited. We're happy you're here, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Pomp, No shit, Well, I mean it's a big day.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fucking Halloween.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the day we've been counting down to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no longer the final countdown.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh it's here. It's a little sad, it is, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also really fricking exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>But that means we get all the candy. We get

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<v Speaker 2>all the relaxing and spectacular movies on TV, Boom the

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<v Speaker 2>cool kids, hopefully without black eyes knocking on our front door.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, yeah, you're stoked.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty stoked.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of candy, where is the candy?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we actually have an outstairs in preparation. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't actually hope that we we're not going to like

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<v Speaker 3>We kind of live in the middle of nowhere, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of expecting and hoping that we don't get

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<v Speaker 3>there's one child that I know of that's coming. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>hoping there's none, because I'll probably be Pema pants.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we're ready with little tiny liquor bottles too, for

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<v Speaker 2>any adult friends who stopped by, most likely my parents.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, we're ready for that just in case.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, that's who it's gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh and also, you guys got to check out our

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram because we carved a stay Wicked Jack o' lantern.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh so cool.

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<v Speaker 4>It's dope. I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, We've just had like the most fun this

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<v Speaker 3>Halloween ever. Yeah, I just I'm really into it.

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<v Speaker 2>We got super drunk and recorded ourselves doing a podcast

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<v Speaker 2>for a.

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<v Speaker 4>Patrons Yeah, and that's up. Now, that's up, so you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can go watch that if you're an All Access patron.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually need to watch it from start to finish,

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<v Speaker 3>but it might be cringey for me to watch. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't remember much from it, do you. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>a bit a bit.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good, I think you think.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is the last day, which is super cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna just like dive right in.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. What do you got for us?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm actually curious to anyone guess because we kind

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<v Speaker 3>of dropped some hints.

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<v Speaker 2>But we did have someone on Instagram guests Actually.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh did they they did?

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<v Speaker 2>What do mean you didn't see it? I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 2>you saw it. You did. Hold on, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 2>go find it. Okay, see where it is, see who

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I'm I'm ninety percent sure I slid it

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<v Speaker 2>across the table and showed you.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're like, oh yeah cool, oh me, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, me, yeah yeah yeah. Uh. I'm terrible. I

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<v Speaker 3>just my memory is just going here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Zunga love.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what do they say again?

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<v Speaker 2>They said tomorrow's guests dot dot dot Amityville Horror.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, they're smart and it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>And they also said high from the coast of BC

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<v Speaker 2>in Powell River.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that is so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>So from British Columbian to British Columbian, you nailed it.

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<v Speaker 2>You got it right. It's Amityville Horror.

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<v Speaker 4>Boom.

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<v Speaker 2>Nicole lay it on us.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So it was November thirteenth, nineteen seventy four. I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like this is like a newer case we're ones

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<v Speaker 3>that we've been doing comparatively. Yeah, when Ronald Dfael Senior,

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<v Speaker 3>age forty three, his wife Louise age forty two, and

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<v Speaker 3>their children Dawn eighteen, also thirteen, Mark eleven, and John

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<v Speaker 3>nine were all shot dead.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Amityville murders and the tales that would follow.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such a fucked up case.

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>It was actually like a little bit fucked up to

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<v Speaker 3>research too, because there's like a lot out there, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it kind of just is like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>am I gonna like do this justice? You know, like

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<v Speaker 3>this there's like so much out there about this, Like

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<v Speaker 3>you he's really famous.

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<v Speaker 2>You could probably talk about this case for a days

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<v Speaker 2>a week straight, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so obviously there's we can't cover everything because

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<v Speaker 3>that would mean it was like an eight hour podcast maybe.

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<v Speaker 1>So.

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<v Speaker 3>The evening of November thirteenth, Ronald de Feo Junior, or

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<v Speaker 3>Butch as people referred to him by, he entered a

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<v Speaker 3>nearby Amneville bar, telling people his parents had been shot

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<v Speaker 3>inside their home. Followed back to his house by several

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<v Speaker 3>bar patrons. The police were eventually called to one one

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<v Speaker 3>two Ocean Avenue, where the bodies of six d Fayo

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<v Speaker 3>family members lay dead, Butch claiming the murders were a

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<v Speaker 3>mob hit. This, however, was not a mob hit. As

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<v Speaker 3>police began to gather evidence, but Butch's testimony was no

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<v Speaker 3>longer making sense, and when they questioned him about it,

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<v Speaker 3>he crumbled and confessed to committing the crimes himself, saying,

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<v Speaker 3>once I started, I just couldn't stop. It went so fast,

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<v Speaker 3>which is like, holy fuck, Like you just murdered your

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<v Speaker 3>entire family, and that's what you have to say.

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<v Speaker 2>No, kidd, I just you know, it's it's like fucking

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<v Speaker 2>lace potato chips. You bet you can't just have one,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I killed one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just like mortifying to me, Like that's like your siblings.

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<v Speaker 2>No kidding, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Why, Like for some reason, it seems like worse to

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<v Speaker 3>me that it's the siblings, not that it's like I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, like they're little his little siblings, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So.

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<v Speaker 3>Using a thirty five millimeter Marlin rifle in the early

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<v Speaker 3>morning's early morning hours, twenty three year old butch murdered

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<v Speaker 3>his entire family while they were in their beds.

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<v Speaker 4>He entered his.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I need to correct myself because I helped you

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<v Speaker 2>with that note on the gun. It's not thirty five milimeter.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a thirty five caliber.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh Caliberpologies, I know, mistake. Yeah, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know my weapons like whatsoever. I'll be the first

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<v Speaker 3>to admit that, and I'm okay with that actually, but

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<v Speaker 3>it could be something I learned, I guess. So he

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<v Speaker 3>entered his parents' bedroom first, shooting each of them twice.

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<v Speaker 3>He then entered his brother's bedroom, shooting them each once

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<v Speaker 3>in their beds, and the same in his sister's bedroom.

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<v Speaker 3>All the murders took place within fifteen minutes. He then showered,

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<v Speaker 3>dressed for work, and dumped his bloody clothing and the

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<v Speaker 3>murder weapon in a storm drain on his way to

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<v Speaker 3>work at the family car dealership at about six a m. God,

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<v Speaker 3>I just for some reason, I'm like, the shower after

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<v Speaker 3>you do something so horrific, it just gets me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the shower that gets me. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>putting on clean clothes and acting like it never happened.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what gets well, yeah, like he would be getting

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<v Speaker 3>ready in that fucking house, and like all of his

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<v Speaker 3>family is just like dead in their bed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, like that's messed.

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<v Speaker 2>Up, and he's the one who pulled the trigger.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god. Okay, I'm sorry. Hopefully we can get

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<v Speaker 3>through this because it's just like so much Okay. So

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<v Speaker 3>oddly enough, all six six victims were found face down

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<v Speaker 3>in their beds, as though placed that way with no

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<v Speaker 3>signs of struggle, and neighbors did not report hearing any

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<v Speaker 3>gunshots being fired, even though the rifle Butch used had

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<v Speaker 3>not been fitted with a silencer. Apparently, there was evidence

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<v Speaker 3>found at the crime scene that the family also may

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<v Speaker 3>have been drugged with the sedative, but no evidence of

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<v Speaker 3>sedatives were found in the autopsy, So I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>those are like a kind of some weird things that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely. I mean, if there's no sedative in their system,

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<v Speaker 2>then I mean you might not find it in one

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<v Speaker 2>or two, but to not find it in any of

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<v Speaker 2>the family most likely points to the fact that they

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<v Speaker 2>were not sedated. So over the time span of fifteen minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>they're all shot, and like, I don't know's there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of weird shit there.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I feel like that's so weird. And then

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<v Speaker 3>just the fact too, like they had neighbors and the

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<v Speaker 3>neighbors and tear this. Yeah, no one heard it because

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<v Speaker 3>that's because we've talked about this before. But that's not

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<v Speaker 3>like that wasn't the gun that's super quiet, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, twenty two is really a quite quiet one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's really small caliber, it's really small amount of

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<v Speaker 2>gunpowder with it generally, and it's it doesn't make much

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<v Speaker 2>of a noise. But this is this is essentially a

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<v Speaker 2>hunting well, this is a hunting rifle. This is big

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<v Speaker 2>enough to take down a deer.

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<v Speaker 3>Holy, so it would make some noise. Yeah, okay, So

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<v Speaker 3>but why like why would why would Butch do this?

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a few stories, one being and this one

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<v Speaker 3>was brought up in court by Butcher's lawyers, that he

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<v Speaker 3>heard voices telling him his family was plotting against him

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<v Speaker 3>and that he had to murder them out of self defense.

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<v Speaker 3>Another one being that it wasn't all sunshine rainbows in

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<v Speaker 3>the Dafeo household. I'm not going to go into a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of detail with this, but in short, Butch didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have the best relationship with his father, who could have

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<v Speaker 3>who could be described as hot tempered with a short

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<v Speaker 3>fuse and potentially abusive.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck that guy. Hate abusive people.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, like, especially like parents, right like, So this

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<v Speaker 3>causing Butch to grow in to somewhat troubled young adult,

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<v Speaker 3>with reports of him becoming addicted to drugs and alcohol

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<v Speaker 3>and at times lashing out sorry at his family.

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<v Speaker 4>So was that intentional?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm drinking a nice coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>It I was like, you're living your best life where

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<v Speaker 3>they're drinking chocolate milk, but it's not chocolate milk.

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<v Speaker 2>Looks like chocolate milk, Ben.

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<v Speaker 4>Does a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>And finally, there were other reports that he could have

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<v Speaker 3>been after the insurance money, which is like always a

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<v Speaker 3>motive for so many things that happen in this world,

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<v Speaker 3>which is fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying money is the root of all evil, right, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>money rules the world.

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<v Speaker 3>In court, which is insanity. Plea was not accepted, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was convicted of second degree murder in November nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>seventy five and sentenced to six sentences of twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>years in life or to life in prison. So he

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<v Speaker 3>was like in the tellydated did.

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<v Speaker 2>So six twenty five years that's one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>years to life. Folk.

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<v Speaker 3>So however, though he did die, and he died in

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<v Speaker 3>that this would have been like in the news, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I know. Shit, So he died in March. So he

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<v Speaker 3>died in custody in March twenty twenty one. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>find out why. It didn't seem like it was released

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<v Speaker 3>or anything. So I don't know if it was like

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<v Speaker 3>Could have been, or like maybe he had like cancer

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<v Speaker 3>or something, right, and who knows. Okay, so now we

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<v Speaker 3>know what happened to Butch. But what happened to the

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful large Dutch colonial house located at one one two

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<v Speaker 2>On its own, I don't know to tell what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>What did happen to it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it laid vacant for just over a year until

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<v Speaker 3>December eighteenth, nineteen seventy five, when a couple George and

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna say the last name. Lot's wrong, Lots lots

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna say it wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say it wrong. Lots. Okay, So Kathy

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<v Speaker 3>and George, with their three children and a dog very important,

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<v Speaker 3>would take a chance on it. George and Kathy were

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<v Speaker 3>just married earlier that year, so George was the children's stepdad.

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<v Speaker 3>They purchased the house for eighty thousand, which was considered

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<v Speaker 3>a bargain price. It sounded like it was a beautiful house,

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<v Speaker 3>and from photos that I looked up, it also looked

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<v Speaker 3>like an absolute beautiful house, Like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>It is a gorgeous place.

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<v Speaker 3>It's beautiful. Like I just think that I've never seen

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<v Speaker 3>a house like it, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>But also like you look at the house and you

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<v Speaker 2>go inside, it looks like a house that someone's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I didn't look at it any of the photos

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<v Speaker 3>of it inside.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it screams that old timey house that you

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<v Speaker 2>that someone dies in.

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<v Speaker 4>Jeez.

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<v Speaker 3>So it had five bedrooms, was built in Dutch colonial style,

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<v Speaker 3>like I had mentioned, had this distinctive gambrielle roof, a

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<v Speaker 3>swimming pool and a boat house as it was located

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<v Speaker 3>on a canal, and included in the sale of the

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<v Speaker 3>house was an additional four hundred dollars. Oh sorry, I

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<v Speaker 3>read that really wrong. Okay, So additionally four hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>was included in the price, and it included all of

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<v Speaker 3>the Dafayo's furniture, which I feel like, okay to live

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<v Speaker 3>in like the house that people were murdered in, I

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<v Speaker 3>can like get over that, but to be living in

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<v Speaker 3>the house and with.

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<v Speaker 2>All their shit, it's like with someone shot on this

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<v Speaker 2>bed or this couch.

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<v Speaker 3>Or oh my god, I hope it didn't include the

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<v Speaker 3>freaking like beds.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I would assume not the mattresses, but you never know.

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<v Speaker 4>The frame frames.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think i'd be okay with like I don't

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Would you be okay okay if you

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<v Speaker 3>were literally like looking at a house and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>people got murdered in here, like literally like a whole

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<v Speaker 3>family got murdered in here and they were murdered by

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<v Speaker 3>like a family member, would you be like okay and

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<v Speaker 3>like buy that house?

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<v Speaker 4>Ah?

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on the house. It depends on the deal

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<v Speaker 2>we're getting. But I don't know, but there's a high

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<v Speaker 2>chance that i'd be like, fuck this shit, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 4>It would be a.

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<v Speaker 3>Pretty high chance of that. Okay, well this brings me

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<v Speaker 3>to this. Actually this is good timing. They were informed

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<v Speaker 3>during the inspection process of the home's history. I almost

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<v Speaker 3>think you have to legally inform people of that, right

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<v Speaker 3>we like if someone bringly got murdered, Like, I think

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<v Speaker 3>you got to tell them. But they discussed it and

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<v Speaker 3>they decided it wasn't an issue for them for their

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<v Speaker 3>price point. The house was a steal of a deal.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, like, okay, if say, if you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>can only really with your price afford like a two

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<v Speaker 3>bedroom kind of thing, but then this house comes available

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<v Speaker 3>because it's so a good deal, Like that's a big.

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<v Speaker 2>Difference of body front at that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I know, like I could see it. It has

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<v Speaker 3>I could see it like.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, sure, maybe people have been murdered in this, but

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<v Speaker 2>like it's beautiful. It's beautiful. Maybe maybe we don't even

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<v Speaker 2>live in it for long because we don't like the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of that. But what if we buy it, Like

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<v Speaker 2>do some like renovations, flip the ship, make a shit

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<v Speaker 2>ton of money, and then go buy a nicer house

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<v Speaker 2>before totally so put up with it for two years

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<v Speaker 2>and then we move on.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like fuck yeah. So Well, when a friend of

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<v Speaker 3>Georgia's learned of the history of the house, they insisted

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<v Speaker 3>they needed to have it blessed, which honestly totally fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I would probably sage the shit out of that house.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if I bought it and just sage the

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<v Speaker 3>shit out of the house, I'd be like more okay

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<v Speaker 3>with it.

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<v Speaker 2>To be honest, I would definitely be talking to all

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<v Speaker 2>of our witchy friends and being like, who's got the

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<v Speaker 2>most amount of stage and who wants to burn all

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<v Speaker 2>of it in a house?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's do this. Let's just like all of it

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<v Speaker 3>like yeah, numerous times.

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<v Speaker 4>I think ye.

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<v Speaker 3>So George, I can't even say that name, was a

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<v Speaker 3>non practicing mythologist Methodists Methodist, I don't know, and is

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<v Speaker 3>that even and had no experience of what this would entail,

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<v Speaker 3>where Kathy was a non practicing Catholic and explained the process.

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<v Speaker 3>George knew a Catholic priest who agreed to carry out

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<v Speaker 3>the house blessing. As he was at the house performing

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<v Speaker 3>his blessing, George and Kathy were at the house unpacking

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<v Speaker 3>their belongings. It's reported that at one point while performing

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<v Speaker 3>his blessing, he heard a masculine voice demand that he

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<v Speaker 3>get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck could you imagine?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I would? I would just be yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>I just want I would. I kind of want to

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<v Speaker 3>like experience something like that, but I just don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how it handen.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to experience that in a sense? Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>ready for it? Ready get out there?

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<v Speaker 3>No, you get out Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Piece you do the podcast. I'm gonna gontairs.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that'd be the life. We also have apple Pie,

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<v Speaker 3>which is pretty pretty awesome. Fuck yeah Okay. So he

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<v Speaker 3>did not mention this to George and Kathy as he

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<v Speaker 3>was leaving, which I was like, what the frig though?

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<v Speaker 3>About a week later on December twenty fourth, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a terrible day to announce something shitty?

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<v Speaker 4>What day?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorty? December twenty fourth? Yeah, Christmas Eve?

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas Eve, like, wait till the twenty sixth.

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<v Speaker 2>Merry Christmas. Oh, by the way, here's some shit news. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy your Christmas Day, like the fuck God, Merry Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>to you, I know, like like they're gonna be able

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<v Speaker 2>to enjoy their Christmas Day, right.

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<v Speaker 3>The father called George and advised him to stay out

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<v Speaker 3>of the second floor room where he had heard this

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<v Speaker 3>mysterious voice.

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<v Speaker 4>Also, maybe it was Santa Claus in the chimney.

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<v Speaker 3>That said get out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, He's like, you're not supposed to see me, get

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck out of here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but he was there like a week earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, there goes that theory. Fuck, never mind.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think it was Santa, but that is something

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<v Speaker 3>Santa could say, get out, well in a nice way.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe not this mean mascot.

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<v Speaker 2>In a nice way.

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<v Speaker 4>Get out, get out please, But it doesn't say please,

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<v Speaker 4>just get out, get out?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you Moon?

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<v Speaker 2>Getting out all of a sudden you're in an English accent?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So, Also, following the priest's visit to the house,

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<v Speaker 3>he allegedly developed a high fever and blisters on his hands,

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<v Speaker 3>similar to stigmata, which is the appearance oh sorry, which

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<v Speaker 3>is the appearance of bodily wounds, scars, and pain in

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<v Speaker 3>the locations corresponding to the crucifix crucifixion wounds of Jesus Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>So I didn't know about that part.

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<v Speaker 3>See that's like fucked up. Yeah, so like this sh

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<v Speaker 3>like did something to this priest guy? No shit, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so initially, where am I here? Initially, George and Kathy

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<v Speaker 3>experience experienced nothing unusual in their home, but unfortunately that

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<v Speaker 3>was short lived, and just twenty eight days after moving in,

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<v Speaker 3>the Lutz family fled their house, claiming to have been

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<v Speaker 3>terrorized by paranormal activity while living there.

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<v Speaker 2>See that's one thing that you're never going to find

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<v Speaker 2>me enduring. I will never be terrorized by paranorm activity.

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<v Speaker 3>The first time it happened, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, Yeah, like fuck this piece the fuck out. Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's.

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<v Speaker 4>Your hose, this shit not anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>That's their house now. Also, if I fucking run the

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<v Speaker 2>second I hear a fucking something get knocked off or

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<v Speaker 2>a covered door slamming on its own, all I have

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<v Speaker 2>to do is be all like now I'm selling the house.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no knowledge of being terrorized by fucking ghosts.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard there was a covered there's once it was

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<v Speaker 2>just a breeze.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, more than one thing would have to happen for

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<v Speaker 3>you to go to that extreme, because it just could

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<v Speaker 3>be like something weird, right, I think at least like

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<v Speaker 3>three things have.

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<v Speaker 2>To happen, in my opinion, Yes, three things, because once

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<v Speaker 2>shit happens twice, it's a coincidence. Three times is a pattern.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it has to be three, not just

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<v Speaker 3>one year out.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as as soon as I have that, I

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<v Speaker 2>know it's a pattern. I know it's a ghost. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>fucking gone.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as you have it solidified, your your piece, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>where's Ben?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, standing on the front lawn.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you'd be taking me with you or you don't

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<v Speaker 3>even care, You're just gone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking whatever is on my body. I'll be standing

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<v Speaker 2>on the front line of my fucking underwear if I

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<v Speaker 2>have to. I don't give a shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I could honestly see that happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, me standing on the front lawn and my underwear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I could see that happening. But I also just see,

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<v Speaker 3>like how like lots of shit, bad shit happens in

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<v Speaker 3>houses sometimes or not even like bad shit, but people

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<v Speaker 3>just like passing away, right, Like I just think it's

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<v Speaker 3>I can see house is being haunted easily.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So what happened to George and Kathy so Well.

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<v Speaker 3>George was said to wake up at three point fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>basically every morning, not every but pretty much almost every morning,

432
00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:23.519
<v Speaker 3>which is around the time that Butch carried out his murders,

433
00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:28.960
<v Speaker 3>and also a time known as witching air and witching

434
00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:31.640
<v Speaker 3>hour is a time of night that is associated with

435
00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:34.000
<v Speaker 3>high paranormal activity.

436
00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

437
00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:36.599
<v Speaker 4>See, like I almost like.

438
00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:38.519
<v Speaker 3>So get nervous now if I wake up in the

439
00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:39.720
<v Speaker 3>middle of night and I have to look at the

440
00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:41.799
<v Speaker 3>fucking clock to see what time it is. If it's

441
00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:43.359
<v Speaker 3>like in three, I'm.

442
00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Like, no, if it's three o'clock when I wake up

443
00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:48.480
<v Speaker 2>in the morning, middle night or whatever. If I see

444
00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:52.640
<v Speaker 2>it's three o'clock, immediately my eyes get shut. That's it.

445
00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:55.759
<v Speaker 2>I just nope, I don't care. If I'm still wide awake,

446
00:21:55.799 --> 00:21:57.000
<v Speaker 2>my eyes get closed.

447
00:21:57.119 --> 00:22:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. Ah Okay. Also, the Lutz family claimed

448
00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:08.000
<v Speaker 3>to have smelled strange odors, see green oozing slime or

449
00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:11.480
<v Speaker 3>green slime oozing out of the walls and keyholes, and

450
00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.039
<v Speaker 3>experience cold spots in certain areas of the house. I'm

451
00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:18.079
<v Speaker 3>freaking freezing right now, So I'm like the cold spots whatever,

452
00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:22.920
<v Speaker 3>that just happens. Some doors would begin opening and closing

453
00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:26.000
<v Speaker 3>on their own. A knife was known to be knocked

454
00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:29.640
<v Speaker 3>down in the kitchen onto the floor. George at one

455
00:22:29.680 --> 00:22:33.759
<v Speaker 3>point entered her room and found it swarming with flies

456
00:22:34.079 --> 00:22:37.200
<v Speaker 3>that would continue to torment the family. See that's disgusting,

457
00:22:37.319 --> 00:22:41.720
<v Speaker 3>that is. And of course, their youngest Jody or sorry,

458
00:22:41.759 --> 00:22:45.720
<v Speaker 3>their youngest child would suddenly make friends with imaginary friend

459
00:22:46.079 --> 00:22:51.039
<v Speaker 3>named Jody, which I don't know kids have imaginary friends,

460
00:22:51.079 --> 00:22:53.079
<v Speaker 3>but it's just like, that's a lot of things.

461
00:22:53.440 --> 00:22:55.680
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I guess, and we're not even done.

462
00:22:55.799 --> 00:22:58.279
<v Speaker 2>I get suspicious as soon as a kid not has

463
00:22:58.319 --> 00:23:00.119
<v Speaker 2>an imaginary friend, but as soon as the kid is

464
00:23:00.160 --> 00:23:03.039
<v Speaker 2>interacting with an imaginary friend, because like, oh you have

465
00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:05.519
<v Speaker 2>an imaginary friend, yeah, yeah, cool, Sure, as soon as

466
00:23:05.559 --> 00:23:08.240
<v Speaker 2>there's something where it's like, oh yeah, my friend is

467
00:23:08.279 --> 00:23:09.279
<v Speaker 2>over here playing with me.

468
00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:13.960
<v Speaker 3>Fucking Nope, Okay, I don't know that would bother me yet,

469
00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:16.640
<v Speaker 3>because it's just like their imagination. They're exploring things, and

470
00:23:16.680 --> 00:23:18.599
<v Speaker 3>they're just like wanting a little friend with them all

471
00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:22.240
<v Speaker 3>the time. I mean, but honestly, I could see being

472
00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:25.680
<v Speaker 3>ghosts often, yeah, because kids are more susceptible to that too,

473
00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:31.279
<v Speaker 3>right activity So okay, So the most messed up piece

474
00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.599
<v Speaker 3>of all. As if this shit hasn't been bad enough yet,

475
00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:38.200
<v Speaker 3>there are claims of a pig like creature with red

476
00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:42.200
<v Speaker 3>eyes staring down at George and his son Daniel from

477
00:23:42.200 --> 00:23:42.880
<v Speaker 3>a window.

478
00:23:43.319 --> 00:23:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's Kate.

479
00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:49.039
<v Speaker 3>That would only have to happen once. There would have

480
00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:51.880
<v Speaker 3>to be no other two paranormal things happening. That happened.

481
00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:52.279
<v Speaker 4>I'm out.

482
00:23:52.759 --> 00:23:54.599
<v Speaker 2>See If I came home and I'm standing the driveway

483
00:23:54.640 --> 00:23:56.279
<v Speaker 2>and I look up and I see a fucking pig

484
00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:58.799
<v Speaker 2>like creature standing in the fucking windows staring down at me,

485
00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.799
<v Speaker 2>my first thought would be, fuck, you picked up an

486
00:24:01.799 --> 00:24:03.880
<v Speaker 2>animal on the road. What do we have for a pet? Now?

487
00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:06.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, like I've even ever done that.

488
00:24:06.920 --> 00:24:09.400
<v Speaker 2>You've talked about it every time you see an animals.

489
00:24:09.079 --> 00:24:11.319
<v Speaker 3>Because most of our animals have been purchased by you.

490
00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:12.039
<v Speaker 3>It's my turn.

491
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:14.240
<v Speaker 4>I want to buy something, Yeah, but I purchased them

492
00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:14.880
<v Speaker 4>for you.

493
00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:16.440
<v Speaker 2>What's the difference.

494
00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:20.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, where are we here? Look at us? Go? Okay. Finally,

495
00:24:20.440 --> 00:24:22.839
<v Speaker 3>George is said to have woken up to his wife

496
00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Kathy Leffe, hating off their bed. Okay, now that is

497
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:31.000
<v Speaker 3>freaking terrifying. There's also been things I didn't even have

498
00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:32.680
<v Speaker 3>it written down where like he would look at her

499
00:24:32.759 --> 00:24:34.839
<v Speaker 3>and she would like just age kind of too while

500
00:24:34.880 --> 00:24:37.279
<v Speaker 3>she was in bed, Like all of a sudden, you're

501
00:24:37.359 --> 00:24:39.359
<v Speaker 3>laying next to your thirty year old wife, but then

502
00:24:39.400 --> 00:24:40.759
<v Speaker 3>she looks like she's eighty years old.

503
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.559
<v Speaker 2>How do you put up with this sort of stuff like.

504
00:24:44.559 --> 00:24:46.000
<v Speaker 3>For that for twenty eight days?

505
00:24:46.119 --> 00:24:49.039
<v Speaker 2>Well it wasn't twenty isn't that long? Yeah, but how

506
00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.079
<v Speaker 2>do you put up with it for more than a day?

507
00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:54.480
<v Speaker 3>You see progresses usually, right.

508
00:24:54.480 --> 00:24:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but progressing from Okay, if you have green ooze

509
00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:01.720
<v Speaker 2>leaking from your fucking walls, you're like, let's fucking see

510
00:25:01.720 --> 00:25:03.319
<v Speaker 2>if it stops, and hope it's gone. In the morning,

511
00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:07.079
<v Speaker 2>you see a pig like demon creature in your fucking window. Yeah,

512
00:25:07.160 --> 00:25:09.279
<v Speaker 2>I'll just sleep this off too. Maybe it'll be gone tomorrow.

513
00:25:09.839 --> 00:25:13.359
<v Speaker 2>Your wife is levitating besides you in aged fifty years.

514
00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:16.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe she just has a headache.

515
00:25:15.960 --> 00:25:20.079
<v Speaker 3>Like what Yeah, that it is a lot because their sons,

516
00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.640
<v Speaker 3>Daniel and Christopher apparently have had also events where they

517
00:25:23.680 --> 00:25:26.160
<v Speaker 3>were levitating in their bed like they're your children, Like

518
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:28.039
<v Speaker 3>that's terrifying, kids.

519
00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:31.119
<v Speaker 2>Stop levitating in your beds like.

520
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:35.720
<v Speaker 3>Fue in the morning. So eventually after twenty eight days

521
00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:39.200
<v Speaker 3>of torment, the family had enough and fled the house.

522
00:25:40.279 --> 00:25:42.440
<v Speaker 3>There you go, twenty eight days. I feel like that's

523
00:25:42.440 --> 00:25:43.440
<v Speaker 3>like a strong family.

524
00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:44.119
<v Speaker 2>No shit.

525
00:25:44.880 --> 00:25:48.599
<v Speaker 3>Some research would go on to tell about the hell

526
00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:53.519
<v Speaker 3>the house being built on ancient enclosure of the sick,

527
00:25:53.839 --> 00:25:59.839
<v Speaker 3>mad and dying operated by the Shinneycock Indian Nation. However,

528
00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:03.920
<v Speaker 3>no such history has ever been proven or discovered by

529
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:09.319
<v Speaker 3>historians and the shineycowk I hope I'm saying that right, Yeah,

530
00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:13.839
<v Speaker 3>I think so. Indian Nation apparently never even resided in

531
00:26:13.880 --> 00:26:17.359
<v Speaker 3>the area, so I don't know. That was one little theory.

532
00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 4>I guess.

533
00:26:17.759 --> 00:26:20.559
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's lots of stories that I've heard of being

534
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:24.119
<v Speaker 2>like buried on the or built burial ground stuff so.

535
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:26.279
<v Speaker 3>That it could be caused by that not even necessary

536
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:27.079
<v Speaker 3>like the murders.

537
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:29.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, So the fact that it's actually been like

538
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:31.079
<v Speaker 2>debunked by historians is actually quite a big deal.

539
00:26:32.960 --> 00:26:38.200
<v Speaker 3>There were some claims of hoof prints in the snow

540
00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:40.160
<v Speaker 3>on January.

541
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:41.480
<v Speaker 2>First, Well, there's your pig creature.

542
00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:44.400
<v Speaker 3>Nineteen seventy six, which is most likely from that pig

543
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.279
<v Speaker 3>like creature that they claim they have seen, but it

544
00:26:47.359 --> 00:26:52.960
<v Speaker 3>was rejected by research searchers Mike Moran and Peter Jordan,

545
00:26:53.319 --> 00:27:01.200
<v Speaker 3>who investigate their investigation, revealed that there had actually been

546
00:27:01.240 --> 00:27:02.440
<v Speaker 3>no snowfall that night.

547
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 4>Oh snap, But I mean, like, I'm.

548
00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:08.559
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I don't even take that because the amount of

549
00:27:08.599 --> 00:27:12.799
<v Speaker 3>times where the Weather network is fucking wrong, that's true.

550
00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:14.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't even like it's like I feel like it's

551
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.960
<v Speaker 3>one job that you can be wrong like so much

552
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:19.319
<v Speaker 3>and still keep your job.

553
00:27:19.799 --> 00:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I think it's expected that you're going to

554
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:23.119
<v Speaker 2>be wrong.

555
00:27:23.240 --> 00:27:26.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, especially here, Like it's lately, I'm doing a

556
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 3>photo shoot. Nine times out of ten, I look at

557
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:30.920
<v Speaker 3>the weather, but then that the photo shoot is doing

558
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 3>something completely different.

559
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's sunny today, there's three inches of snow

560
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:35.720
<v Speaker 2>out there.

561
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Maybe where they were at it said there was no snow,

562
00:27:38.079 --> 00:27:40.880
<v Speaker 3>but then at this people's house there was snow.

563
00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's true.

564
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:46.200
<v Speaker 3>So the neighbor though, So the neighbors of the LUTs

565
00:27:46.279 --> 00:27:50.039
<v Speaker 3>has never reported anything unusual during the time that they

566
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 3>were living there. So like neighbors not seeing anything, I mean, yeah.

567
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Not even someone running out of the house screaming, standing

568
00:27:56.319 --> 00:27:57.480
<v Speaker 2>in the front lawn in their underwear.

569
00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they didn't see anything weird. Apparently, George however, maintained

570
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.279
<v Speaker 3>that events written in the published book about their encounters

571
00:28:06.480 --> 00:28:10.720
<v Speaker 3>were mostly true. In June nineteen seventy nine, George and

572
00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:15.319
<v Speaker 3>Kathy took a polygraph test relating to their experience at

573
00:28:15.359 --> 00:28:19.759
<v Speaker 3>the house. The polygraph tests were performed by two I

574
00:28:19.759 --> 00:28:24.640
<v Speaker 3>don't know, Chris googas I think and Michael Rice, who

575
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:27.559
<v Speaker 3>at the time, though this is important, were reportedly among

576
00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 3>the top five polygraph experts in America. The results in

577
00:28:31.640 --> 00:28:34.920
<v Speaker 3>their opinion that they indicate they were not lying.

578
00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:39.640
<v Speaker 2>See that's some strong evidence. However, polygraphs are like not

579
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:42.039
<v Speaker 2>the most reliable source of material.

580
00:28:42.240 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 3>But then for like the both of them to have

581
00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:48.920
<v Speaker 3>comeback that they weren't lying and these people like actually

582
00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.400
<v Speaker 3>being like the top of their job, Yeah, I feel

583
00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 3>like something might have come of that if they were

584
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 3>like just full out lying, you know.

585
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.839
<v Speaker 2>That's true. I don't know.

586
00:28:59.039 --> 00:29:01.599
<v Speaker 3>It's a tough one' Do they even use those nowadays?

587
00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I think they do, but I don't even know if they're.

588
00:29:04.079 --> 00:29:06.119
<v Speaker 4>They like standing court, Yeah, I don't think so.

589
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So now, clearly there are many people who question

590
00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:12.880
<v Speaker 3>the Validista Valadi, I.

591
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 4>Can't even talk v.

592
00:29:16.920 --> 00:29:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Of the lots story and events surrounding the Ammineville House.

593
00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.440
<v Speaker 3>A main theory of what really happened is that the

594
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:28.200
<v Speaker 3>lots Is were in financial trouble and brewed the whole

595
00:29:28.240 --> 00:29:30.559
<v Speaker 3>story up for money to sell to the public.

596
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:35.279
<v Speaker 4>Then sons of bitches, you never know the lots Is.

597
00:29:35.400 --> 00:29:39.680
<v Speaker 3>Former lawyer William Webber, who fell out with them over

598
00:29:39.720 --> 00:29:43.480
<v Speaker 3>a money issue, came out in nineteen seventy nine claiming

599
00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:46.000
<v Speaker 3>the three of them came up with the whole horror

600
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:50.799
<v Speaker 3>store over many bottles of wine. I mean, that's some

601
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 3>shit you could actually come up with over a few bottles. One.

602
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I've come up with some dumber stuff, that's for sure.

603
00:29:57.240 --> 00:30:02.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess. Okay, So there's son. Daniel, however, claims

604
00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:05.920
<v Speaker 3>the house ruined his life and that he continues to

605
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:09.440
<v Speaker 3>have nightmares to this day, but he also claims it

606
00:30:09.480 --> 00:30:14.400
<v Speaker 3>was George who invited the mysterious and dangerous forces into

607
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:18.960
<v Speaker 3>their lives due his to his fascination and obsession with

608
00:30:19.079 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 3>the occult. The occult yet, so that's something that I

609
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:24.799
<v Speaker 3>thought was super interesting.

610
00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even his son is just like it was real,

611
00:30:27.480 --> 00:30:29.440
<v Speaker 2>But it was it's to blame to Joe.

612
00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:30.359
<v Speaker 3>It wasn't the house.

613
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.440
<v Speaker 2>It was George Yeah, George, open those fucking doors. Kids.

614
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Don't play with fucking demons and shit.

615
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, don't do it.

616
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, put the Uigi boards away, saved your fucking house.

617
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 2>Don't invite shit in.

618
00:30:42.079 --> 00:30:42.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

619
00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:45.440
<v Speaker 3>I do think that you can actually attract these things.

620
00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, I really do think that. So these claims

621
00:30:48.880 --> 00:30:53.079
<v Speaker 3>and events all peer all appeared in j and since

622
00:30:53.240 --> 00:30:58.839
<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy seven book The Aminebelle Whore The What Amityville?

623
00:30:59.160 --> 00:30:59.559
<v Speaker 2>There you Go?

624
00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:03.799
<v Speaker 3>I talked to I like mushed my words together sometimes.

625
00:31:04.119 --> 00:31:07.240
<v Speaker 3>So this also inspired the nineteen seventy nine movie of

626
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:13.359
<v Speaker 3>the same title, which inspired many many more movies since then.

627
00:31:13.440 --> 00:31:17.279
<v Speaker 3>The story and the house has become a cult classic

628
00:31:17.400 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 3>among horror fans.

629
00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:20.200
<v Speaker 4>It has, it really has.

630
00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 3>So. The Ameneville House, also known as one one two

631
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Ocean Avenue, still exists, but has undergone some renovations making

632
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Speaker 3>it look quite a bit different and the house someone

633
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.759
<v Speaker 3>who was living in the house at one point. They

634
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 3>actually change the house number to one oh eight Ocean

635
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:45.240
<v Speaker 3>Avenue in order to discourage sightseers from visiting. None of

636
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:47.599
<v Speaker 3>the new owners, and there has been a few, have

637
00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:53.559
<v Speaker 3>reported any paranormal activity, but rather contending with horror movie

638
00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:57.039
<v Speaker 3>than fanatics walking and driving by the house to get

639
00:31:57.079 --> 00:32:00.519
<v Speaker 3>a glimpse of the famous at Amneville House.

640
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:01.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I could see that.

641
00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.519
<v Speaker 3>I could drive so much, and honestly, I would even

642
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.079
<v Speaker 3>not want to drive by. I would feel bad, like

643
00:32:07.160 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 3>now reading that, right.

644
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well I would definitely want to drive by. I'm

645
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<v Speaker 2>not too I would drive by still knowing reading that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would not like super slow down. I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>like O could drive by real quick. Shit, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get a picture drive by again, Like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>honestly think i'd.

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<v Speaker 3>Like park a block or so away and then just

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<v Speaker 3>like breaking like I was going through a FIRS stroll.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Maybe then it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like you're out in the neighborhood taking a walk.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean they're gonna freaking now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but be casual about it, you know, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't because they would even say people would like knock

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<v Speaker 3>on their door like in all hours of night, Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's being an asshole, no shit, Like people are living

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<v Speaker 3>there now, like just leave them alone, go look.

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<v Speaker 4>If you need to.

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<v Speaker 2>But could you imagine living there in the Amityville House

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<v Speaker 2>actually buying it in this day and age and being

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<v Speaker 2>like this is the fucking Amityville house.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it'd be really cool. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 3>worth a lot more now, But then also I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't want to live there just because of the

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<v Speaker 3>people driving by and shit, I would buy so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you have I showed you the Amityville ghost photo.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you come across it in your research?

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't, actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Really no, because it's like one of the most prolific

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<v Speaker 2>ghost photos like out there to date for any sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like ghost hunter paranormal activity stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, I was looking at the house, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>it there. Oh my gosh. Okay, actually I have seen that.

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<v Speaker 3>That is terrifying. A shit.

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<v Speaker 2>If you haven't seen it, look it up, the Amityville

678
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<v Speaker 2>ghost photo. It's of maybe we'll post it on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 3>Or yeah, I could even put it in the story

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<v Speaker 3>if I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Post it on the need So a ghost hunter was

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<v Speaker 2>in the house. It set a bunch of cameras and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and supposedly there was no one in the house at

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<v Speaker 2>the time this photo was taken, and there is a

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<v Speaker 2>young boy peeking out of a bedroom and it's thought

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<v Speaker 2>to be one of the kids that was shot in

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<v Speaker 2>the original incident.

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<v Speaker 4>When uh, the murders.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when what's his name went through and killed his family.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, because that little boy looks to be about

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<v Speaker 3>like nine. Well because there was I'm just looking back here,

692
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<v Speaker 3>there was Mark who was eleven, and John who was nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, I don't want to like take time

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<v Speaker 2>to read through this and figure it out who they

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<v Speaker 2>think it is. Yeah, I can't see who they think

696
00:34:14.679 --> 00:34:16.840
<v Speaker 2>it is, but I'm sure you can find out and

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<v Speaker 2>and find who they.

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<v Speaker 4>Suspected to be.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, yeah, but it's a creepy ass fucking photo.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that is so creepy. Yeah, it honestly looks like

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<v Speaker 3>a real child to knuck in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, which could be could be it could be

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<v Speaker 2>could be a doctor image. It could be like, oh,

705
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:34.840
<v Speaker 2>totally capture this image and it's just like, yeah, hey,

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00:34:35.079 --> 00:34:36.960
<v Speaker 2>here's my son in the fucking photo or something.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyway, that concludes Halloween week.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's Halloween week. It's done.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's freaking not it's over. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically I just wanted to say I hope everyone

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<v Speaker 3>freaking enjoyed the shit.

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<v Speaker 2>No kidding out of that. It was fun putting it together,

714
00:34:57.000 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 2>but man, and just to.

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<v Speaker 3>Give everyone like time to catch up on it. We

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<v Speaker 3>aren't going to be having a podcast out on Tuesday, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the second, but we will be back and we will

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<v Speaker 3>have one on November ninth for y'all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes we will, so I'm excited for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so get that for either, catch up on all

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<v Speaker 2>the episodes because I know some people are like share behind,

722
00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>having trouble keeping up now, so take that extra week,

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<v Speaker 2>catch up on all the epic Halloween week and catch

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<v Speaker 2>us on the next one, yeah, on the ninth, And

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<v Speaker 2>of course find our socials all the way down in

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<v Speaker 2>the description of this podcast Instagram, Facebook, our website, Patreon

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00:35:36.000 --> 00:35:38.800
<v Speaker 2>where you can go support us. We'd appreciate it, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We would end, we act and we have the Drunk

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<v Speaker 3>We're Gonna Groom video officially up.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so you guys, thank you so much, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to pass things over to Jacko to close

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<v Speaker 2>us out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, let's do it, Jacko.

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<v Speaker 1>It is unfortunate, but all good things must come to

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<v Speaker 1>an end, And as a sunrise on the dawn of

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<v Speaker 1>the next day, so does the flame flicker infade within me. However,

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<v Speaker 1>a flame can be reignited with but a single spark,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't think you've heard the last of Jacko. Ladies, gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>theyse and them's. It has been a pure honor these

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<v Speaker 1>past seven days as we explored the world of all

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<v Speaker 1>things wicked and grim. But I must bid you adieu.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you enjoyed your time with us and you

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<v Speaker 1>have a superb Halloween. Until we meet again, my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>stay wicked.
