Speaker 1: You are now listening to the Someone's Favorite Productions podcast Network.
Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, Welcome to another Thursday. Chris will be here
Speaker 2: in just a moment. I don't want to do the
Speaker 2: same thing that I did last week and not have
Speaker 2: a good microphone. Everybody hear me, okay, please let me know.
Speaker 2: Hopefully it is fairly audible, as Jack is pointing out.
Speaker 2: Definitely wanted to start out this week with a hearty
Speaker 2: rest in peace to one Wingshauser.
Speaker 3: I know that this is one that.
Speaker 2: Our dear friend Brad Henderson had announced previously that he
Speaker 2: had died due to an interaction with the director of
Speaker 2: Champagne and Bullets. But this time it seems like it
Speaker 2: is quite real and Wingshauser is gone. Some great films
Speaker 2: made by wings some that have been getting some good
Speaker 2: reappraisal recently. Thanks Jack and Karan and everybody else that's
Speaker 2: saying it sounds good.
Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Good.
Speaker 2: Good to see everybody here for another Thursday. We got
Speaker 2: a lot to talk about tonight. One thing before Chris
Speaker 2: gets here is kind of want to hear what anybody
Speaker 2: else is thinking about this whole Max Discovery thing where
Speaker 2: they're looking to possibly sell off the rights to a
Speaker 2: film that they had taken a tax break on, which
Speaker 2: seems crazy to me that you can cancel a film
Speaker 2: and make money off of the tax rite off and
Speaker 2: then sell it and make even more money. That doesn't
Speaker 2: make any sense. Honestly, the first one shouldn't happen at all,
Speaker 2: but to be able to do both makes zero sense
Speaker 2: to me. That being said, I really wanted to see
Speaker 2: Coyote versus Acme, so I hope it happens fairly early
Speaker 2: on in the show. Here is our dear friend, mister
Speaker 2: Chris Haskell. Hello, everyone, how you doing, sir?
Speaker 4: Doing well? Excuse the baron the baron walls here behind us.
Speaker 4: This is still moving week.
Speaker 2: Course, Yeah, moved very quickly. It seemed like that's crazy crazy,
Speaker 2: it's like tiny amount of advanced notice.
Speaker 4: Well, the first place we looked at that we really
Speaker 4: wanted had seven applications on it, and so we were
Speaker 4: the second place we saw it didn't have any. So
Speaker 4: we were like, gotta go. If anybody's asking all the
Speaker 4: drinking Basil Hayten Tonight sponsored by Basil Hayden.
Speaker 2: And Basil Reardon, who we're gonna be talking about later.
Speaker 4: On, And that's been heaven.
Speaker 2: Uh, Chris, let's get into everything you've been doing lately.
Speaker 2: How's how's life in the podcast world for you?
Speaker 4: That's crazy. You know, one thing kind of hey, John,
Speaker 4: one thing kind of leads to another, and then I'm
Speaker 4: I'm in three podcasts all of a sudden. So it's
Speaker 4: been fun, you know. We started they Live by film
Speaker 4: was just started in the pandemic as a hobby, like
Speaker 4: something fun to do, and then after a while we
Speaker 4: realized that people didn't want to just hear us talk,
Speaker 4: so we went like, let's go ask and Craig and
Speaker 4: Dennis were the first ones that said yes, which is
Speaker 4: I'm still like so grateful for them because we were
Speaker 4: completely new and and then a few years down the
Speaker 4: road just focused on boutiques. I started feeling, you know,
Speaker 4: you and I got close and we started talking about
Speaker 4: gas and we're like, why is nobody doing a Vinegar
Speaker 4: Syndrome podcast?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And what's up Craig?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then.
Speaker 4: I was just going back and forth on names, and
Speaker 4: I think Punk Vacation to me signifies like the spirit
Speaker 4: of Vinegar Syndrome. It's a movie that a lot of
Speaker 4: people like to shit on, but it's fun and so
Speaker 4: I thought that would be a great one. And then
Speaker 4: I don't know if Adam's listening because it's one point
Speaker 4: thirty in the morning in the UK. But Adam did
Speaker 4: the artwork, and I'm still so appreciative for that, because
Speaker 4: you know, we I just said make it Rudy ray Moore,
Speaker 4: but as if Andy Warhol did it, and like he
Speaker 4: came back with that, I was like, dude, what the hell?
Speaker 4: This is like way better than I expected. And then
Speaker 4: you and I were talking about gaps and realized that
Speaker 4: Manda Macabro didn't have one and asked if they could
Speaker 4: make an official one and they were like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: let's do it. So yeah, man, it's been a crazy
Speaker 4: riode the last really the last years, when a lot
Speaker 4: of this stuff is kind of ramped up and I
Speaker 4: feel silly talking about what I'm doing. It's like a
Speaker 4: twentieth of what you did today.
Speaker 2: But oh god, don't we don't need to go down
Speaker 2: that route. I mean, the amount of stuff that you know,
Speaker 2: just the collaboration between the two of us has a
Speaker 2: lot of fun. I was talking about this the other day.
Speaker 2: Somebody somebody asked where I found some piece of information.
Speaker 2: I said, on Reddit, and they were like, on Reddit,
Speaker 2: what do you mean? I said, well, I mean that's
Speaker 2: where I met Chris. Like everything between me and Chris
Speaker 2: Haskell all started on Reddit, and without that chance meeting,
Speaker 2: none of this would have been the way that it's.
Speaker 4: Been shout out to Reddit.
Speaker 3: I know, I love it.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Monto Micabro getting little ahead of the game,
Speaker 2: but some some recent pickups brand new bundle in from them,
Speaker 2: the Punishment Girl, Slaves and Morgano La Fay, Cafe Flesh
Speaker 2: and Bohachi Bushido, those latter three all on four K.
Speaker 2: I don't think I can share all of the cover
Speaker 2: Oh I can't. I flipped some of the ones that
Speaker 2: I couldn't, So there we go. Nice thick slip covers
Speaker 2: now they've upgraded from the thin paper ones that had
Speaker 2: before MoMA Macabro stuff. Speaking of why don't you highlight
Speaker 2: last month's episode.
Speaker 4: Well, it was a dream for me in two ways.
Speaker 4: So I've been a big fan of Shinyasukamoto for a
Speaker 4: long time because I saw Tetsu the Iron Man, maybe
Speaker 4: not in theaters, but like real a while ago, over
Speaker 4: twenty years ago. And then I've just been checking Senior
Speaker 4: Sukamoto and I love him. I had, and then I
Speaker 4: think we were talking and I was like, man, it'd
Speaker 4: be amazing to have Tom Mess on this because he
Speaker 4: literally wrote the book on Shinya Sukamoto. And you're like, well, oh,
Speaker 4: you mean my bestie Tom Mess. Yeah, like I could
Speaker 4: probably make an intro, and then you did, and then
Speaker 4: he showed up, so like all those things were amazing,
Speaker 4: and so I got to spend an hour and a
Speaker 4: half with Tom Mess, which is just incredible.
Speaker 2: The conversation ended up being amazing and like exactly what
Speaker 2: I had hoped for. I mean, the amount of the
Speaker 2: amount of knowledge that Tom has on everything Asian cinema
Speaker 2: is unprecedented.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did, you know what I forgot to ask him.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask him if he's seen every Takasha
Speaker 4: a movie, because there's a chance he has.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's quite possible, especially for research.
Speaker 4: But no, he's amazing, Like really, like I think we're
Speaker 4: you know, I grew up. As far as commentaries go,
Speaker 4: it was like a net insdore Right and then maybe
Speaker 4: there's a few other like common ones shout out to
Speaker 4: a net if she's listening.
Speaker 3: She was.
Speaker 4: She was one of the originals. But like I feel
Speaker 4: like we're in this golden age of film historians because
Speaker 4: like Tom mess is just right, and then Nathaniel Hawthorne
Speaker 4: and like Eugenia or Klani and like you could just
Speaker 4: go down Sam Degan, like it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Like can we correct that to Nathaniel Thompson and not
Speaker 2: the guy.
Speaker 3: That wrote the Scarlet Letter?
Speaker 5: First?
Speaker 4: Did I say Hathorne Nudson? Sorry, I guess I have
Speaker 4: sin on my mind speaking of syndrome there's but yeah,
Speaker 4: he's just incredible, Like it's amazing what he knows and
Speaker 4: has like been on set with Genia Sukimoto and anyways.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just hearing about his research process is
Speaker 2: intimidating and inspiring and frustrating. I mean to a point
Speaker 2: where you know, people like you and I would love
Speaker 2: to just drop everything and go pour into some of
Speaker 2: these you know, studios and archives that he goes and visits.
Speaker 2: But it's literally impossible unless you've got that as a job.
Speaker 2: I don't know how much you want to talk about it.
Speaker 2: Brandan wants to know what your day job is. He's
Speaker 2: been curious, Hey.
Speaker 4: Bren, and thanks for the kind of messages here. I've
Speaker 4: been seeing him kind of flash up. Nothing related to
Speaker 4: movies at all. I'm an IT consultant. I'm a tech consultant,
Speaker 4: and in my day job, I travel like two to
Speaker 4: three weeks a month, not five days a week, but
Speaker 4: I usually go for two to three days a week
Speaker 4: and just fly wherever they're like corporate headquarters and try
Speaker 4: to sell them IT stuff.
Speaker 2: And he's being modest when he says flies a few
Speaker 2: times a month. We're talking like I'll message Chris and
Speaker 2: he says, Oh, don't worry, I just landed in Czechoslovakia.
Speaker 2: I got a little bit of time or uh, what
Speaker 2: was the last one. It was somewhere else in Europe,
Speaker 2: and I was like that Poland, Yeah, yeah, Poland. It
Speaker 2: was like Jesus, I mean the amount of I want
Speaker 2: you to go do research on the ground for me
Speaker 2: on some of these Polish films.
Speaker 4: I'm so pissed because actually, like I hope I get
Speaker 4: to go. I might get to go back in like
Speaker 4: June ish, July ish, and I'm gonna like leave early
Speaker 4: and go to the mecca for me, which is, uh,
Speaker 4: there's a university there and the name of the city
Speaker 4: is vouch. It's it's spelt like to Americans, it looks
Speaker 4: like l DZ but they say voch and I would
Speaker 4: love to go see it because that's where like Kuslavsky's from.
Speaker 4: That's where a lot of the Oh yeah, that's right, Aaron,
Speaker 4: that's yeah, yeah, Hey good An, you know you're on here. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Aaron's a precured business for my company in the past,
Speaker 4: which is a small world. But yeah, like a lot
Speaker 4: of the classic Polish artists and directors that we know
Speaker 4: are like they went to university in buch and I
Speaker 4: just want to go. So yeah, I do watch a
Speaker 4: lot of movies on flights that in fact, I most
Speaker 4: of the apps have a future where you can download
Speaker 4: and watch on airplane mode, which is awesome. So I
Speaker 4: watch a lot of Criterion and Arrow Player stuff on.
Speaker 2: Them and hopefully in the next couple of months we
Speaker 2: finally get a chance to meet in person.
Speaker 3: That sounds like.
Speaker 4: It's been so close a couple of times. I know
Speaker 4: we need to make it happen, but you're speaking about
Speaker 4: we're trying to. So my specific job is I go
Speaker 4: try to find new business for the company I work
Speaker 4: with if they're not doing business with this already. And
Speaker 4: Hellsburg Diamonds is not a customer of ours, but I'd
Speaker 4: like them to be. If anybody from Hellsburg is listening,
Speaker 4: called Chris Haskell Cognizant, but they're based in Kansas City.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, And of course they're known for watching
Speaker 2: the show every week. So obviously please give Chris Haskell
Speaker 2: a call. You've already got his number. Remisod.
Speaker 4: This is the diamond of boutique discussion.
Speaker 2: So speaking of that, after our announcements tonight, we're gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about one of Chris's many quite professional discussions now,
Speaker 2: which is Vinegar Syndrome. Considering how much Punk Vacation has
Speaker 2: taken off and you've had most of the company on
Speaker 2: the show at this point, only a couple more to
Speaker 2: tick off there.
Speaker 3: But we're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Discussing the differences between all the sub labels for Vinegar
Speaker 2: Syndrome and then doing a personal ranking of them, which
Speaker 2: this is gonna be fun.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope the comments are active. No, it's never
Speaker 4: a problem on your show, but like, this is a
Speaker 4: very contentious topic.
Speaker 2: It is, especially for the VSA's which started as one
Speaker 2: thing and now is eight things.
Speaker 4: It's gone from VS Action to vs Asia right, primarily
Speaker 4: like that's fine, Like I'm here for it, Like it's great.
Speaker 2: Punk Vacation just dropped a new episode. You want to
Speaker 2: highlight who was on that?
Speaker 3: What you covered?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a cool and so I didn't realize
Speaker 4: that he had been on your show. I was all pumped,
Speaker 4: and I don't know how I missed it first of all,
Speaker 4: but I was so pumped to have this exclusive with
Speaker 4: Ewan Kan't from Aero Video and now Vinegar Syndrome, this producer,
Speaker 4: and I was researching it. I was like, God, damn it, Ryan.
Speaker 3: How many times I've said that about you? It's all right, but.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Youwan is amazing, and he's like he's like the
Speaker 4: slasher person and like he knows everything about slashers and
Speaker 4: like he's so passionate about the releases he works on. Awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So it's just it was a super fun conversation and
Speaker 4: it did drop, and it's I think people want to
Speaker 4: hear about Slashers because it's been like there's already been
Speaker 4: over one hundred and fifty downloads in like twelve hours,
Speaker 4: so people are or maybe twenty four hours at this point.
Speaker 4: But anyways, it's like it's really like fast and it's
Speaker 4: getting a lot of early listens, so I hope that
Speaker 4: continues because he's a he's awesome. You can tell he's
Speaker 4: just like pure passionate, like he loves his stuff really fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: He when I had him on, I think he spent like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, five minutes talking about the Umbrella release
Speaker 2: of The Houseboat of Horror, which most people are like
Speaker 2: that is one of the worst piles of trash ever,
Speaker 2: and he's just wanting to discuss it to no end
Speaker 2: because it's so fun for him. I love the way
Speaker 2: he knows so much about a lot of these, Like
Speaker 2: Fatal Games is one that he had a big hand
Speaker 2: in back at Ario. Some of the cheesy slashers that
Speaker 2: he worked on that were like lifelong dreams of his
Speaker 2: that he's been watching for decades.
Speaker 3: It's so cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And Mother's Day is a drama film that takes
Speaker 4: place in the UK, so like you got to do that,
Speaker 4: And recently it was iced Blood Trucks and then Ghost
Speaker 4: Dance Are there's three like recent ones. But yeah, it's
Speaker 4: just pure, like raw passion when he talks about it.
Speaker 3: So it's cool.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for people to hear it.
Speaker 2: Who has been on the podcast, you would say maybe
Speaker 2: one of the more exciting episodes or interesting pieces that
Speaker 2: people should listen to as a first episode.
Speaker 4: Oh great question. So like, let me close discord because
Speaker 4: I'm getting these little beeps now. I don't want it
Speaker 4: to show up. I don't want to distracting for everybody. Okay,
Speaker 4: So there's a couple that immediately come to mind, But
Speaker 4: I think like Oscar is a vetcher from Vinegar Syndrome,
Speaker 4: is an underrated speaker. Like he's you know, he has
Speaker 4: kind of a reputation because of his videos of being
Speaker 4: like sort of silly and like chaotic energy, but he's
Speaker 4: really well spoken and like extremely thoughtful. And we were
Speaker 4: talking for ten minutes before you even started recording about
Speaker 4: his passion for like organizing things, Like he's very much
Speaker 4: a librarian at heart. So it's really I think that
Speaker 4: interview I was like so impressed with, Like I think
Speaker 4: it was my expectations of who he was going to
Speaker 4: be versus who he was. It was just like so
Speaker 4: cool and there's a lot of depth to it. Kurtis,
Speaker 4: I'll announce on April first, I'm getting Curtis Spieler back.
Speaker 4: He's coming back. It was the very first one, so
Speaker 4: I'm a little partial to it, but I also just
Speaker 4: think he's awesome. Yeah, thank you doesn't but yeah, like
Speaker 4: I think I haven't had a guess now yet that
Speaker 4: I'm disappointed in. Heather is pure id right, like she's amazing,
Speaker 4: Like she's she's really I love the Heather Drain one.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if Eli listens to this, but
Speaker 4: if you are listening, Eli, he did an amazing job.
Speaker 4: He messaged me and asked if he could speak whenever
Speaker 4: I cover hardcore titles and I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean sure, why not, Like I've never heard him talk before.
Speaker 4: He's like, I have a background doing podcasting before, so
Speaker 4: I kind of like, I mean, I don't know, we're
Speaker 4: a new podcast, like why not? Right? But he was awesome,
Speaker 4: Like I probably have him back on somewhat regularly. Oh
Speaker 4: and then how can I like my heart is you know,
Speaker 4: kind of tied to Italian cinema. So the conversation I
Speaker 4: had with you Genio or Klani, I just like that
Speaker 4: guy is just amazing, Like he lived the history like
Speaker 4: he he knows it by living it, not only from books,
Speaker 4: and so the way he talks about Italian cinema is
Speaker 4: just very close to my very close to my heart,
Speaker 4: and he's awesome.
Speaker 2: For anybody that's not listened to the Eugenio stuff with
Speaker 2: Chris or on my channel, it's it is insane how
Speaker 2: many times that he can say, oh, yeah, my dad
Speaker 2: was on that set doing X, or there was a
Speaker 2: couple of times I mentioned a film and he goes, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: my mom dated the director of that or something genuine
Speaker 2: and he's just got family history with it, and it's
Speaker 2: it is so much more meaningful when he gets I
Speaker 2: do like some exclusive interview with somebody that's been in
Speaker 2: the hills in Italy for forty years without being talked to,
Speaker 2: and he's like, for the first time since nineteen seventy eight,
Speaker 2: And it's true. It's literally just him making connections and
Speaker 2: getting people out to speak and.
Speaker 4: You can tell he's proud of it too, which is
Speaker 4: like kind of adorable, but like, but he should be, like,
Speaker 4: it's amazing the stuff he gets.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Eugenio is a he's a good one.
Speaker 2: Uh, you haven't have any pickups scenario you want to
Speaker 2: share or talk about?
Speaker 4: Unfortunately not sorry there, so I'll but for the pickup section,
Speaker 4: I'll say something slightly embarrassing since it's just you and I.
Speaker 4: So we decided to be eco friendly, by the way,
Speaker 4: super down on cardboard boxes, buying them, taping them up,
Speaker 4: like undoing them, and then throwing them away. I was like,
Speaker 4: that's going to drive me crazy. So they have these
Speaker 4: companies now that will like bring plastic bins to your
Speaker 4: home that you move with them and then pick them
Speaker 4: up at your new place. And I mean, you know,
Speaker 4: everybody has a different budget, but to get fifty bins
Speaker 4: was only like two hundred and forty bucks for two weeks,
Speaker 4: so it was like a no brainer.
Speaker 3: No cardboard.
Speaker 4: We're putting movies in bins, and I just looked at
Speaker 4: my stuff and I was like, okay, probably take like
Speaker 4: about fifteen twenty bins. I guess it's like thirty eight
Speaker 4: bins of movie. It's like, what the hell is my problem?
Speaker 4: Like this is like, you know, it's like the moment
Speaker 4: where you have awakening that you're an order or something,
Speaker 4: and it's just like, dude, anyways, I don't think I'm
Speaker 4: a order, but.
Speaker 2: I love that you come to that realization being eco friendly.
Speaker 2: Just staring at all of your plastic and cardboard I know, I.
Speaker 4: Know I better not throw it away, and I guess
Speaker 4: it'll see in a million years it'll decompose naturally.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, well we'll check that out. Will still be here.
Speaker 2: Of course, I showed Mondo's stuff, but wanted to shout
Speaker 2: out a couple others. I had this stuck with the
Speaker 2: pre order for the next title I want to talk about,
Speaker 2: but speaking to Jared fro Mondo, their last title I
Speaker 2: want to get even this is a Neon Eagle title.
Speaker 3: Can't wait to see that one.
Speaker 2: The one that held it up is the Blue Underground
Speaker 2: four K release of Venom. Literally just got this in
Speaker 2: excited to see that, and then I got suckered in
Speaker 2: on something. This went on sale and I wasn't gonna
Speaker 2: get it because I had the old Blu ray, but
Speaker 2: this is my favorite in the franchise, so I really
Speaker 2: wanted to check out the four K of the Evil
Speaker 2: Dead remake. And then Screen Factory came out later and said, well,
Speaker 2: let's just do a steal book with some pretty dang
Speaker 2: decent art compared to what they normally do, and I
Speaker 2: was excited for that. So I got this on sale,
Speaker 2: figured why not?
Speaker 4: What are the special features like on a Screen Factory
Speaker 4: DVD of the Evil Dead remake.
Speaker 2: On the DVD or of this this it's a lot
Speaker 2: of the stuff that they had before. They've got an
Speaker 2: audio commentary with Jane Levy, Lou Taylor Pucci, and Jessica
Speaker 2: Lucas Fetti Alvarez, and the writer is on there as well.
Speaker 2: They've got a directing featurette, Evil Dead Reboot featurette.
Speaker 3: A couple other short featurettes, nothing super exciting.
Speaker 4: None of Edde's early short films.
Speaker 2: No, none of Ede's early short films, which I believe
Speaker 2: wasn't like his first His first short film was what
Speaker 2: got him discovered to oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see the guy that only has like one
Speaker 4: or something like it is like he is like that
Speaker 4: is a quick progression into in the movie making, right.
Speaker 2: Either that or he had like two, like we say,
Speaker 2: short films, but I think the first two were like micros,
Speaker 2: They're like two or three minutes. And then he made
Speaker 2: one that got notoriety and attention and they went, oh,
Speaker 2: you can come be a real director.
Speaker 4: Got out to Sam raimif he's listening for taking a
Speaker 4: chance on people, I love what he's doing.
Speaker 3: Ok.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, uh, let's talk about recent watches. Then
Speaker 2: obviously you're watching a lot on planes. What have you
Speaker 2: been checking out recently?
Speaker 4: So the big stuff that I've been watching is related
Speaker 4: to vinegar syndrome, as you might imagine. And I think,
Speaker 4: like the I have to if I can only talk
Speaker 4: about one thing, although you didn't ask me to do that,
Speaker 4: I have to say, like, if there's a movie that's
Speaker 4: a must buy from the recent releases, let's say the
Speaker 4: last three or four months, The Carpenter is an absolute
Speaker 4: must buy, Like, I would love to hear from anybody
Speaker 4: that hates that movie, because the movie is fucking awesome,
Speaker 4: Like I think Wings House are, Like it's especially relevant
Speaker 4: today because I think he passed away today.
Speaker 2: Mentioned that right before you came on. He actually passed
Speaker 2: away about five days ago, but they kept it private
Speaker 2: until late late last night.
Speaker 4: Huge, huge, terrible news for the industry. What a legend.
Speaker 4: And he's somebody that I always feel like, really is
Speaker 4: one of these guys that really like he goes for
Speaker 4: it in the roles. Oh yeah, And The Carpenter is
Speaker 4: such a great example of that because the premise is
Speaker 4: so weird, like yeah, so, but I love The Carpenters
Speaker 4: so much. Luckily, there's been no snakes on these planes.
Speaker 4: When I've been driving or when I've been flying. I
Speaker 4: will say that people are more nervous about planes crashing.
Speaker 4: I hear about it. I was talking to somebody on
Speaker 4: the plane recently and they're like, hope this doesn't crash.
Speaker 4: And then somebody was flying for one of my coworkers
Speaker 4: and they were like, hope I make it. I'm like, y'all,
Speaker 4: so I don't want to start assuming that every plane's
Speaker 4: going to fall down. But The Carpenter is an amazing movie,
Speaker 4: and I think everybody should see it. If anybody has
Speaker 4: an't even a slight interest in surrealism. The Mansion of
Speaker 4: Madness that just came out is a must watch. That's
Speaker 4: have you seen it? I?
Speaker 2: I have, but it's been such a long time because
Speaker 2: it's an old relevant to you being here.
Speaker 3: It's an old Monta Micabro DVD.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right, of course. Also, how have you seen,
Speaker 4: oh Brett, you're just saying you've seen Devil Fetus in
Speaker 4: the sense of like you've seen it before, you haven't
Speaker 4: seen the new one.
Speaker 2: Right, Uh, well, many people have gotten it wasn't Devil
Speaker 2: Fetus from last month.
Speaker 4: I haven't got it yet. No, it's a it's a
Speaker 4: market it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they've been they've been shipping. I got
Speaker 2: my shipping.
Speaker 4: Noticed the but I guess if you live close to
Speaker 4: the archive you can just go grab it anyways, right,
Speaker 4: But yeah, I can't wait that that really so I'm
Speaker 4: super pumped about. We're not double Fetus and her Vengeance
Speaker 4: both are are. I think people are gonna be like
Speaker 4: what am I watching? In the best way, But yeah,
Speaker 4: Mansion to Madness is good Joy of Sex for anybody
Speaker 4: that just wants like a fun I guess like teen comedy,
Speaker 4: like joy of Sex is fun, and it's it's kind
Speaker 4: of extra funny because everybody in the movie is horny,
Speaker 4: like even the parents. Everybody's horny in the movie. But
Speaker 4: like it's still very much an eighties comedy. And then yeah,
Speaker 4: I saw female perversions is weird. I don't know what
Speaker 4: to think about it exactly. Like as far as recommending it,
Speaker 4: it's like a it's one where they really went for
Speaker 4: it visually, and you see a whole bunch of Tilda Swinton.
Speaker 4: She's naked pretty much the whole movie, and she's playing
Speaker 4: like a sex symbol, which is interesting compared to sort
Speaker 4: of like how her career is gone. She takes on
Speaker 4: more like challenging roles or like androgynous roles. I think whatever,
Speaker 4: So yeah, anyways, but it's it's okay. I mean, it wasn't.
Speaker 4: I wasn't bored ever. But outside of Vinever syndrome, I've
Speaker 4: recently seen Collateral, which is a really good Michael Mann movie,
Speaker 4: and if you haven't seen it, I think it's Michael
Speaker 4: Man's best movie so far that I've seen. I've seen
Speaker 4: like four or five of his We saw recently, what's
Speaker 4: that one? De Niro and Pacino Heat? Heat? Okay, pretty good.
Speaker 3: Moment for the title to sink in.
Speaker 4: Exactly broadcasting from I know, I know it totally looks
Speaker 4: like a jel right, sorry, and I probably I usually
Speaker 4: have Mike as well, so I'm sure I sound terrible.
Speaker 2: Not as bad as the headset used to Okay, better
Speaker 2: than the headset, I can get it.
Speaker 4: I'll take it. Then naked till this wins. And it's
Speaker 4: called female perversions. And one interesting thing, if you want
Speaker 4: to sound credible when you're talking about it and not,
Speaker 4: just watch it to see her naked. Although no judgment,
Speaker 4: it's a huge feminist movie. So like, there's one of
Speaker 4: the special features talks about how there is a woman
Speaker 4: who was working on a Tarantino movie who left to
Speaker 4: go work on this, and her words were, this is
Speaker 4: not a film, this is a movement. So yeah, it
Speaker 4: was a very strong feminist statement with a ton of sex.
Speaker 4: What's up, kV? Yeah, I feel like I don't know, kV.
Speaker 4: If this is not true about you, forgive me. But
Speaker 4: I feel like you're pretty current on a lot of
Speaker 4: the new stuff that's coming out. And I'm always jealous
Speaker 4: of that because I haven't seen a movie from twenty
Speaker 4: twenty five yet, and I've seen four from twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: So Ryan says Chris with the hot take, Heat is okay,
Speaker 2: but the Carpenter's a must buy. And yes, Zepam, I
Speaker 2: believe Heat Too is in pre production uh and should
Speaker 2: be coming out the next couple of years.
Speaker 4: I hope they do like a colon, do like Hotter
Speaker 4: or something? I don't know, Heat Too.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's pretty great. My recent watch, the only one
Speaker 2: that I really can highlight much is the Filled Marrow
Speaker 2: Bone from a handful of years ago. Uh popped this
Speaker 2: in this week. My my wife had requested it and
Speaker 2: I've never seen it. The Big Thing, incredible cast in here,
Speaker 2: George McKay on you, Taylor Joy, Charlie Heaton from Stranger Things,
Speaker 2: and then Mia goth All headline this one. And it's okay,
Speaker 2: it's it's fine, nothing special necessarily, but uh I, Derek,
Speaker 2: she says, I popped in the first thing I here
Speaker 2: is Christian on heat.
Speaker 4: I'll defend it in just a second.
Speaker 2: But finishing that, I I don't necessarily recommend marrow Bone.
Speaker 3: It's it's made fine, but it's something that it seems.
Speaker 2: Like they had a couple ideas for some plot points
Speaker 2: and then kind of tried to tie everything together and
Speaker 2: it didn't work out, so they just rushed an ending
Speaker 2: onto it. Not the best, It's okay. The other big
Speaker 2: thing will and I recorded another commentary this week has
Speaker 2: not been announced yet. I think that makes like four
Speaker 2: or five that we've recorded that have not been announced.
Speaker 2: So watched that movie again and again and again. There's
Speaker 2: a couple other things that we were working on that
Speaker 2: I've watched this week as well, but lots to announce
Speaker 2: in the coming weeks, including the one that Craig has
Speaker 2: been highlighting Deaf Crocodile's announcements coming out next Friday. The
Speaker 2: big title that most people are excited for just from
Speaker 2: the title of the film alone, Inflatable sex Doll of
Speaker 2: the Wastelands is up for pre order next Friday.
Speaker 3: So check that one out. Let's talk about heat. What
Speaker 3: were you gonna say?
Speaker 4: That's my Tinder profile by the way, But okay, so
Speaker 4: here's my defense Erica and Craig. Although I know it's
Speaker 4: not you're not gonna be happy with it. I think
Speaker 4: in that movie every scene de Neuro's in, I really like,
Speaker 4: I think he nails it in that movie. Like I
Speaker 4: think it might even be one of his best roles.
Speaker 4: Like I know he has a lot of great roles,
Speaker 4: but like, I think he absolutely nails it. Patino is
Speaker 4: kind of a a paradi of himself in that movie.
Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't like his part. Every like every
Speaker 4: part he was in. I was like, Okay, I mean,
Speaker 4: come on, you're just doing like a Pacino thing, but
Speaker 4: like not in a not in a way that really
Speaker 4: like connected me to him. And he was a bit dramatic,
Speaker 4: over dramatic and kind of overacting, I think, And I
Speaker 4: didn't I didn't. I was. It was one of the
Speaker 4: first times I was like, Pachino not a good actor.
Speaker 4: Then I went back and I looked at his stromography
Speaker 4: and I'm like, no, he's a great actor, but this
Speaker 4: one just didn't went and didn't do it for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've gotten a lot of flack for this before,
Speaker 2: but I've said before since somewhere in the eighties, but
Speaker 2: she knows, kind of just been doing doing some shtick
Speaker 2: since then. He's got moments of brilliance in there, but man,
Speaker 2: a lot of it. I just I cannot understand how
Speaker 2: far over the top he got.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's basically it. Greig, You're not wrong. That's a
Speaker 4: woman thing. It just kind of feel like that, to
Speaker 4: be honest.
Speaker 2: Let's hear your hua, Chris. You mentioned Curtis coming up
Speaker 2: on Punk Vacation. Anything exciting for they live by film
Speaker 2: before we get into announcements.
Speaker 4: Fair enough, fair, So let's see what can I announce. Well,
Speaker 4: Eugenio is coming on, So we're going to record in
Speaker 4: early April, and he's apparently I don't he didn't tell
Speaker 4: me the titles, but he's on a couple of the
Speaker 4: stuff that's coming out in April and and so we're
Speaker 4: going to talk about it when they Live by Film,
Speaker 4: just to be able to go deeper in, to go
Speaker 4: broader than just the vinegar syndrome stuff. So he's coming
Speaker 4: on and then but no, oh, not too much. I mean, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: I'll tease this. So I don't know how y'all feel
Speaker 4: about the Mission Impossible franchise. I'm like completely neutral on it.
Speaker 4: But Zach hasn't seen any of them except for the
Speaker 4: first one, I think, and Adam's a fan. So for
Speaker 4: They Live by Film, we're gonna do one series where
Speaker 4: we do Vertigo movies that are similar but better my words,
Speaker 4: not theirs. I didn't like Vertigo that much, but we're
Speaker 4: gonna do like Vertigo like movies, and then for the
Speaker 4: other after that we'll get into the Mission Impossible franchise.
Speaker 3: Very nice.
Speaker 2: I think I'm in the exact same boat as Zach,
Speaker 2: and I've only seen the first one and could not
Speaker 2: be more meh about the whole thing.
Speaker 4: Erica Vertico is okay, but it's overrated.
Speaker 3: Oh man, Eric is gonna have a heart attack tonight.
Speaker 3: She really.
Speaker 4: Oh manhole, it's about like a controlling asshole. I don't
Speaker 4: get it. It's well made. Like I wasn't into it.
Speaker 2: Who knew everybody would come out in defense of the
Speaker 2: indie director, mister Hitchcock.
Speaker 4: No, no ze, I'm kind of like you. I want
Speaker 4: to just get to the good ones. Because three is
Speaker 4: the one that Brad Bird directed. I think if I
Speaker 4: remember correctly, uh, and like I remember just loving it
Speaker 4: sort of when I saw it, But then the other
Speaker 4: one's I don't know. I haven't seen all of them.
Speaker 3: So oh I love this. Oh this is buddy as hell.
Speaker 2: All right, are we ready for some announcements? And I
Speaker 2: love speaking to Heat. We're starting with Heat tonight. I mean,
Speaker 2: we got Criterion announcements last Friday, a title that sold
Speaker 2: out over the weekend. Already, it's gonna be gonna be
Speaker 2: big deal. So let's get into it. First off, the
Speaker 2: Beyond four K has been announced for ages and finally
Speaker 2: in pre order status status. This is shipping in April
Speaker 2: on four K from Grindhouse Releasing. And as far as
Speaker 2: special features, they have pretty much everything four K scan
Speaker 2: that's brand new from the Technoscope o CN. You've got
Speaker 2: the composers cut on here with a brand new Master
Speaker 2: audio surround sound remix with the new score by Fabio Fritzy.
Speaker 2: We've got the original tactical version and the composers cut
Speaker 2: in Dolby Vision UHD, which is huge. You've got three commentaries.
Speaker 2: You've got in depth interviews with a bunch of individuals
Speaker 2: from the making of the film. You've got newly discovered
Speaker 2: archival interviews with Catriona McCall and David Warbeck. You've got
Speaker 2: a hundred page book by Martin Bain and jessper March.
Speaker 2: And then big one that people were not expecting. Bonus
Speaker 2: DVD of the Seven Doors of Death version. This is
Speaker 2: the Aquarius Pictures version of The Beyond that was presented
Speaker 2: years ago, and it's finally here with its original Dolby
Speaker 2: Stereo mix from the original analog one inch master. And
Speaker 2: you got the bonus CD of the new composer's cut soundtrack,
Speaker 2: d box book of ibond packaging, slipcover with beautiful new
Speaker 2: artwork by the post artist Emanuel Taglietti and other surprises
Speaker 2: of course. And the crazy thing is you cannot purchase this.
Speaker 2: This was limited to thirty five hundred copies and sold
Speaker 2: out I think Sunday night. And there is an individual
Speaker 2: that does packing for Grindhouse releasing that on Reddit, he
Speaker 2: is indicating that at the moment there is no standard
Speaker 2: edition in the pipeline.
Speaker 3: But there's no way that's true.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a fulgy film in four K that
Speaker 2: sold out in three days. Nobody is sitting on this
Speaker 2: and saying let's not make more money. They did not
Speaker 2: have a limited license on this. They are putting out
Speaker 2: more of these guaranteed. Eventually. It will likely not have
Speaker 2: the packaging that this does, but it will have a
Speaker 2: slipcase and probably at least four of these discs, maybe three,
Speaker 2: but it will have a lot.
Speaker 3: Don't worry, you will get a chance if you had
Speaker 3: to miss out on this.
Speaker 4: And plus, like Grandhouse is kind of like they know
Speaker 4: how to make money, right, Like they're good at like
Speaker 4: they're good they understand how to make money. Like there's
Speaker 4: I would bet a paycheck on this that they're not
Speaker 4: gonna like just stop for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: They are the original Fomo masters. They will announce a
Speaker 2: limited edition that comes with a key chain and say
Speaker 2: this is your last chance to get it, and as
Speaker 2: soon as that sells out, you know, sixty days later,
Speaker 2: there's a standard edition that's in print for like five
Speaker 2: and a half years after that at least, and they.
Speaker 3: All come into slipcase.
Speaker 2: They all come with usually most of the bonus content,
Speaker 2: maybe missing a CD soundtrack.
Speaker 4: You will be fine, Yeah, But exciting that Beyond is
Speaker 4: unfour K. I mean talk about a beautiful.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I mean not only exciting that it's
Speaker 2: on four K, but it is from a company that
Speaker 2: is going to do really great work in four king
Speaker 2: to Beyond. What do you think about the Beyond compared
Speaker 2: to some of the other Fulchy stuff, So.
Speaker 4: Bryan, don't worry. I love Filchi and I love The Beyond.
Speaker 4: How do I feel about it compared to other ful
Speaker 4: gi I feel like this is the part of his
Speaker 4: career where he was kind of like in his prime.
Speaker 4: Like there's this like like this is the chunk of
Speaker 4: his career that a lot of people when they're getting
Speaker 4: into ful gy like this is the air that they
Speaker 4: kind of they watch and it's amazing, Like it's I
Speaker 4: love it. I could watch this on repeat almost like
Speaker 4: this this is my this is my gem.
Speaker 3: It's special, that's for sure. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then just after the Beyond got announced, we go
Speaker 2: straight into Criterion announcements, which is another huge month from them,
Speaker 2: Like I I don't think I've seen a read of
Speaker 2: multiple months in a row where they've put out so
Speaker 2: many titles. Even though kind of a lot of these
Speaker 2: are upgrades when you look at the grand scheme of
Speaker 2: things for what they've done, which nothing necessarily wrong with that,
Speaker 2: they're still giving a lot of new stuff and getting
Speaker 2: brand new HD and four K upgrades, so that's a
Speaker 2: good thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is one of my sentimental favorite movies of
Speaker 4: all time, Like it was one of the first times
Speaker 4: I just I don't know, like I saw movies differently,
Speaker 4: like I saw this super young, and I just kind
Speaker 4: of saw movies differently after this, so I always love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is one of those.
Speaker 2: This one is coming on June third, and it's a
Speaker 2: four K release of the nineteen eighty five film Brazil.
Speaker 2: This is of course a long fan favorite for many people.
Speaker 2: This is a very unique film, very Terry Gilliam, for sure.
Speaker 2: This has all of the same features, nothing brand new
Speaker 2: on this one, as usual for what they're doing on
Speaker 2: most of the four K upgrades, But I feel like
Speaker 2: this is one that people have been really waiting on
Speaker 2: since they announced that first Gilliam four K so glad
Speaker 2: this is finally coming out.
Speaker 4: If I want to mess with people, I say this
Speaker 4: is Danio's best roal. I don't really believe that though,
Speaker 4: I'll don't worry. But if I want to rile people
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 3: Which good job you already have.
Speaker 2: Speaking of four K upgrades, on June third, we're getting
Speaker 2: another upgrade. This is Mishima Life in four chapters from
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty five. This is a straighter upgrade. This is
Speaker 2: coming again with all the special features that we had previously,
Speaker 2: same cover art and everything. Four K upgrade for something
Speaker 2: that will look great. And unfortunately, this one, as far
Speaker 2: as I can tell, will not have Dolby Vision, which
Speaker 2: really stinks for this movie, because this movie is one
Speaker 2: I could really benefit from some of those incredible colors.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting to watch the arc of Schrader's life
Speaker 4: and how it's kind of mirroring the arc of the
Speaker 4: character in Mishima a little bit. He's not quiet as militant,
Speaker 4: but like he's certainly become you know, like an opinion
Speaker 4: it Yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, this, I mean, it's a
Speaker 4: beautiful movie. Traders seems like he's kind of an asshole. No,
Speaker 4: Offense Trader. If you're watching, you're just very opinionated. But
Speaker 4: this is an amazing movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is gonna look really great on four K guaranteed.
Speaker 2: And then the most controversial pick of the month from
Speaker 2: them nineteen seventy eight, The Whiz coming on four K
Speaker 2: and Blu Ray.
Speaker 3: This is a.
Speaker 2: What do you say? I mean, a lot of people
Speaker 2: love this movie. A lot of people literally hate this movie.
Speaker 2: This is a movie with some huge, huge names attached
Speaker 2: to it. I mean, Quincy Jones alone should be enough
Speaker 2: to get people in there. But then on top of that,
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson, Richard Pryor Sidney Lamett is directing. But on
Speaker 2: top of all that, you've got one of the biggest
Speaker 2: names in all of it, and of course Diana Ross,
Speaker 2: which most people upset about this are upset about the art.
Speaker 2: But also I have not seen a Criterion movie announced
Speaker 2: in a long time with more people just absolutely shitting
Speaker 2: on it, saying this is one of the worst movies
Speaker 2: that's ever been in the Criterion collection legitimately, and I'm
Speaker 2: not going to name names, but it's public if you
Speaker 2: want to go look on Facebook on my announcement for
Speaker 2: this post. There is somebody else in home video who
Speaker 2: works in the UK for a very big company that
Speaker 2: made a really awful comment on this, and I think
Speaker 2: it sort of envelops what a lot of people are
Speaker 2: responding to, which I don't understand, and I think it's
Speaker 2: just at the heart peer racism. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: understand how you can feel that about fucking the Wiz, Like,
Speaker 2: it's just a musical that was made by one of
Speaker 2: the greatest directors of all time.
Speaker 4: First of all, Beyond the Value of the Dolls is
Speaker 4: in Criterion, so let's slow down on like bad movies
Speaker 4: being in the collection. I mean, it's a fun movie,
Speaker 4: don't get me wrong, but like if we're gonna be
Speaker 4: as bad as Heat, No, he's a good movie. It's
Speaker 4: just I just didn't live up to the extremely head
Speaker 4: expectations I had. And al Pacino is not a great actor. Okay,
Speaker 4: there's nothing controversial on what I'm saying. Okay, uh no, Jack,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying beyond the value of the Dolls is bad.
Speaker 4: I'm saying the people, if you're gonna shit on the Wiz, like,
Speaker 4: let's slow down, because like, like there's a wide range
Speaker 4: of movies that are in the collection, and it's not
Speaker 4: all just like Italian neorealism, So like that comment doesn't
Speaker 4: even make sense, and and like Armageddon's in the collection,
Speaker 4: like it's a fun commentary. Like so there's nothing. I
Speaker 4: don't even see how this is controversial. This is like
Speaker 4: a slam dun classic important movie in film history, Like
Speaker 4: it's a no brainer. Why wouldn't Criterion put it out?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: And beyond that, again, this is one of those titles
Speaker 2: that Criterion knows the moment you released this, this is
Speaker 2: going to sell like frickin' hotcakes. This is a film
Speaker 2: people were raised on and you're releasing it on four
Speaker 2: K for the first time in the world with some
Speaker 2: of the biggest names ever attached to it.
Speaker 3: Who is not going to buy this? No?
Speaker 4: Totally, no, Greg, I mean, Craig, you're right. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's it. Like there's no other explanation other than racism.
Speaker 4: I gain. I mean, I don't know, I don't think so.
Speaker 2: The comment from the gentleman in home video and I
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't use respectful terms like gentlemen. It even included
Speaker 2: the word diversity in it, So it's like you're saying
Speaker 2: the quiet parts out loud here and I don't understand
Speaker 2: how you can work in home video in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3: Five and be like like that. I mean, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: show up.
Speaker 4: Is this from a company that puts out a whole
Speaker 4: bunch of Hong Kong comes No? Okay, okay, okay, interesting
Speaker 4: it doesn't. You don't have to say. But I'll just go.
Speaker 4: I'll go see if I can remember my Facebook password
Speaker 4: and go and get it.
Speaker 3: Go check.
Speaker 4: But like it, like, come on, it's the whiz like right,
Speaker 4: it's not. There's nothing controversial about this at all.
Speaker 2: Carrying on, uh speaking a racist. June seventeenth, getting a
Speaker 2: Blu ray release of Felonious Monk straight no Chaser. This
Speaker 2: is a really exciting release for me. New four K
Speaker 2: digital restoration on this one. We got an introduction from
Speaker 2: the director on here, new interview with the musician ts Monk,
Speaker 2: son of Felonious Monk.
Speaker 3: We got a new program on.
Speaker 2: Here, some trailers and whatnot, and then an essay by
Speaker 2: Paul Grimstad. Yet again, another one brand new to the collection.
Speaker 2: That's gonna be incredible. I'm so eager to see this one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never seen this, but Delinius Monk, I mean
Speaker 4: it's delnious monk right, like, let's go. I can't I
Speaker 4: can't wait to see this.
Speaker 2: Next up is Midnight, coming on Blu Ray on June seventeenth.
Speaker 2: This is from nineteen thirty nine. This is one that
Speaker 2: a lot of people have been clamoring for, hoping to
Speaker 2: cross off their list, and finally, finally here new four
Speaker 2: K digital restoration on this one. New audio commentary with
Speaker 2: Michael Kureski, a new program during an audio nineteen eighty
Speaker 2: nine interview with the director. We've got the lux Radio
Speaker 2: theater adaptation of the film from nineteen forty a trailer
Speaker 2: and an essay of by David Cairns.
Speaker 3: Really fun cover on this one too. I like this.
Speaker 4: This is the fun. This is one of those movies
Speaker 4: that I think people would be shocked at how kind
Speaker 4: of it doesn't feel like a movie from the thirties
Speaker 4: or forties in the content, like this is a screwball
Speaker 4: comedy about how a woman is hired to break up
Speaker 4: the affair of a married man. But it's like a comedy.
Speaker 4: It's not played like a melodram. It's played like a
Speaker 4: comedy in the sense of like this is probably a
Speaker 4: common thing, like let's make some jokes about it, and yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's interesting, like it's a it's a
Speaker 4: fun movie, like it's an early screwball comedy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's great, very very eager for this one.
Speaker 2: And then we got thirty two short films about Glenn
Speaker 2: Gold from nineteen ninety three coming on four K and
Speaker 2: blu ray on June twenty fourth. Says it's a rare
Speaker 2: film biography as boldly inconventional as its subject. Writer director
Speaker 2: Francois Gerard's visionary portrait of iconoclastic world renowned pianist Glenn
Speaker 2: Gold Explode explodes the conventions of the form to illuminate
Speaker 2: the brilliant mind and innermost obsessions of a singular artist.
Speaker 2: This one has a brand new four K digital restoration,
Speaker 2: new audio commentary with Girard and the co writer and
Speaker 2: actor Don mckeller. We got new conversation between Gerard and
Speaker 2: the filmmaker Adam mcgoyan, which is really great. A couple
Speaker 2: of archival pieces here, and then essay by Michael Kuresky.
Speaker 2: This is super exciting. I'm glad this is getting a
Speaker 2: four K release. That's a big deal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this guy, Francoise Erard is a Canadian if I
Speaker 4: remember it. I think he's a French Canadian guy. And
Speaker 4: I think he's the guy that did the Red Violin,
Speaker 4: which is a which got some attention. He's a he
Speaker 4: just seems somebody who's obsessed with music, because he's done
Speaker 4: a lot of like live shows as well. Like he
Speaker 4: like he's somebody that's very tight into the arts scene
Speaker 4: and not just not strictly a filmmaker, is my point,
Speaker 4: I guess, And so it's always interesting to see. I
Speaker 4: think people that aren't like hardcore just like cinephiles that are,
Speaker 4: but they want to like make a movie and they
Speaker 4: want to like tell the story of Glenn Gould in
Speaker 4: like this interesting way. I don't know, Like I can't
Speaker 4: wait to see this. I haven't yet, but I can't
Speaker 4: wait to see it.
Speaker 2: Terry saying he saw this one of the theaters, making
Speaker 2: me jealous.
Speaker 4: That's cool.
Speaker 2: And then the most exciting one for me this month,
Speaker 2: Sorcerer from nineteen seventy seven getting a four K and
Speaker 2: blu ray released from Criterion on June twenty fourth. A
Speaker 2: lot of people unhappy with this cover art. I actually
Speaker 2: really enjoy this. I think it was a really fun
Speaker 2: modern take on the cover of the Jeep.
Speaker 3: What I laughed at.
Speaker 2: Somebody said this looked like the little Coconut monsters from
Speaker 2: Mawana created this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't love the artwork, but I
Speaker 4: don't care. Like, I'm so happy this movie's coming out,
Speaker 4: Like what a movie.
Speaker 3: It's a big deal.
Speaker 2: This is one that's not had a great restoration in
Speaker 2: some time and really deserved one. So glad this is
Speaker 2: getting out there. This will have a four K and
Speaker 2: a Blu ray disc. This is a brand new four
Speaker 2: K digital restoration. We got the audio soundtrack approved by
Speaker 2: William Friedkin. There is a uncut documentary from twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: This is one that you could have gotten previously, but
Speaker 2: the fact that it.
Speaker 3: Comes with this is really damn cool.
Speaker 2: Some new conversations between James Gray and Sean Fannassy. You
Speaker 2: will probably recognize that name since you're into physical media.
Speaker 2: We've got archival audio interviews with Green and the editor
Speaker 2: Bud Smith, and then I want to highlight specifically. They
Speaker 2: also include the twenty fifteen conversation between Freedkin and Nicholas
Speaker 2: Winding Refin, which is the legendary conversation where Freedkin basically
Speaker 2: roasted him or straight to his face, and so glad
Speaker 2: that's going to be preserved on disc. We also have
Speaker 2: a new essay by Justin Chang. Exciting release here.
Speaker 4: Freedkin's like the good version of what pulstrators become. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it doesn't care at all. It's like rips on people.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah, this is a very exciting one.
Speaker 2: This has had multiple releases before, and none of them
Speaker 2: have been truly astounding, and I really hope this is this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.
Speaker 2: We talked about Audie Murphy last week, but they also
Speaker 2: announced that on June twenty fourth, we're getting the fifth
Speaker 2: Audi Murphy collection. This one's going to include Walk the
Speaker 2: Proud Land from nineteen fifty six, Seven Ways from Sundown
Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty and Pulled It for a Bad Man
Speaker 2: from nineteen sixty four. Anything about Audie Murphy that you
Speaker 2: would like.
Speaker 3: To highlight there?
Speaker 4: Who is Audie Murphy?
Speaker 2: He did a lot of Westerns.
Speaker 4: Oh that's why I don't know. Yeah, I'll get around
Speaker 4: to him one day. It looks like there's five collections
Speaker 4: I have to go through. I'm sorry, I have nothing
Speaker 4: to add about Westerns, not in a negative way. There,
Speaker 4: I know they're beloved, and my grandpa thought he was
Speaker 4: John Wayne, So there's a.
Speaker 3: Your grandpa my grandpa.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, I don't know Audie Murphy or have
Speaker 4: much to say about Westerns in general.
Speaker 3: Completely understandable.
Speaker 2: We've got another keynot announcement coming soon on four K
Speaker 2: in the US is The Peacemaker from nineteen ninety seven
Speaker 2: with George.
Speaker 3: Clooney and a little known.
Speaker 2: Actress named Nicole Kidman. This is directed by Mimi Leader,
Speaker 2: who also did Deep Impact. I don't think I've seen
Speaker 2: this one, but I don't know how. I feel like
Speaker 2: I really should have, considering when it came out, but
Speaker 2: I don't remember this one at all.
Speaker 4: I remember, okay, so when this came out after preface this,
Speaker 4: When this came out, I was fifteen, so forgive me,
Speaker 4: but I remember being disappointed. I thought there was going
Speaker 4: to be more nudity in this one from Nicole Kidman
Speaker 4: when I saw it, and so I remember like a
Speaker 4: feeling of slight disappointment in this movie. But I probably
Speaker 4: need to see it again because I wasn't watching it
Speaker 4: for the right reasons.
Speaker 3: Oh so fifteen, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Next up, I'm still here. One of the best films
Speaker 2: from last year. According to pretty much everybody, this is
Speaker 2: getting a Blu Ray release of the UK on June
Speaker 2: twenty third from Altitude Film. No word on special features.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to be any on this one,
Speaker 2: but supposedly Fernando Torres is incredible in this. Obviously Oscar
Speaker 2: nominated for her role. So eager to see this. Finally,
Speaker 2: this is one of the big ones that I missed
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 4: Is this the one from Brazil?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Oh fuck this movie, man, I'll see it eventually. I
Speaker 4: can't wait to see it. But like I've heard, this
Speaker 4: is just like absolutely heart like gut wrenching set. I'm
Speaker 4: not in the mindset to watch this right now with
Speaker 4: all the stuff going on politically, but like what one day,
Speaker 4: one day, I'll get to this and I can't wait
Speaker 4: to see it. But yeah, I've heard this movie is
Speaker 4: just like destroys you.
Speaker 2: Literally, the first line of the synopsis says, Brazil faces
Speaker 2: the tightening grip of a military dictatorship and that's enough.
Speaker 4: Thanks Vince, And yeah, no, I okay. I love Audie Murphy,
Speaker 4: thank you for his service to the country for World
Speaker 4: War Two. And I'll watch all of the collection by
Speaker 4: the next time I'm on. I'm sorry, I'm a deepercologist
Speaker 4: and I love Westerns. I take it all back.
Speaker 3: This one's interesting.
Speaker 2: March eighteenth, which, if you'll notice, was two days ago,
Speaker 2: we got a Blu ray release as an Amazon exclusive
Speaker 2: from Tribeca Films. They've done a handful of these now
Speaker 2: and they are doing a Bronx tale one Man Show
Speaker 2: from twenty twenty four. This is the Chazz Paul mon
Speaker 2: Terry bringing us a claimed stage show to a disc
Speaker 2: for everybody to be able to watch wherever you are.
Speaker 2: Glad this is coming out here. I've heard good things
Speaker 2: about this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm super skeptical about one man shows in general.
Speaker 3: I understand, we understand.
Speaker 4: Chaz is a badass, though if anybody can pull it off,
Speaker 4: he could probably do it. He's got range. I love Chaz,
Speaker 4: not saying that ironically. I love Chaz pumentary one Man's shows.
Speaker 4: This pretty tough.
Speaker 2: Next one, film Masters is putting out Lighthouse from nineteen
Speaker 2: forty seven. This should be a on April first. This
Speaker 2: is from their archive collection, which means there will be
Speaker 2: no bonus features on this, but it will have a
Speaker 2: brand new restoration so it should look great. This is
Speaker 2: just one of those things where Filmmasters is deeply dedicated
Speaker 2: to getting films out there on disc and investing in
Speaker 2: the in the scan and restoration is what they can
Speaker 2: do for us, and it will be priced accordingly. So
Speaker 2: that's a that's a good thing. Filmmaster's just pretty incredible work.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I don't have I'm trying to. I'm
Speaker 4: just on the Wikipedia page trying to see if there's
Speaker 4: something I can latch onto to be interested in this movie.
Speaker 4: Nothing's coming to mind, but maybe if it's like a
Speaker 4: World War two veteran, it's like a decorated something, I'll
Speaker 4: see it and I'll be super proud of it, and
Speaker 4: I'll be I'll be happy to see it.
Speaker 3: Man, we got you to fold quick.
Speaker 4: I love Oddie Murphy Maye.
Speaker 2: May twenty seven, there's a Blu ray release of Outlet
Speaker 2: Under season seven coming from Sony. I couldn't find any
Speaker 2: bonus features listed for this, and I gonna be honest,
Speaker 2: I've never even seen ten seconds of this show. No.
Speaker 4: When this show came out, I was fifteen, and I
Speaker 4: was impressed with how much nudity was in it, so
Speaker 4: I'd say it's a good show. But I haven't seen.
Speaker 4: I've seen. I've realistic. I've seen two episodes I think,
Speaker 4: and I was kind of like, I mean, if I
Speaker 4: get around to it.
Speaker 2: But are you watching much TV in twenty four twenty.
Speaker 4: Five, dude, I haven't seen. I haven't seen like a
Speaker 4: modern TV thing except for the Great British Baking Show.
Speaker 4: I will always have time for that. But outside of
Speaker 4: the Great British Baking Show is what I wish Vertigo was. Okay,
Speaker 4: but I have But outside of the best show on television,
Speaker 4: I have not seen much and there's so much I
Speaker 4: want to see now.
Speaker 2: I want to see a version of Vertigo starring Noel Fielding. Oh,
Speaker 2: let's go to the next one. Megan Fox is starring
Speaker 2: Until Death from twenty twenty one, and this gets a
Speaker 2: Blu ray release from Dazzler Media.
Speaker 3: In the UK on May nineteenth.
Speaker 2: And what's crazy, I've heard this is actually really good.
Speaker 2: I've heard this is pretty great and like the best
Speaker 2: thing Megan Fox has done since Jennifer's Body.
Speaker 3: So I am going to check this out eventually someday.
Speaker 4: She strikes me as somebody that has good taste, like
Speaker 4: the choices she makes for Like I mean, she got
Speaker 4: famous with Transformers, I know, whatever, but like, but it
Speaker 4: seems like the stuff that she's been in, or at
Speaker 4: least that I can remember, like Jennifer's body kind of
Speaker 4: stuff always has like a little bit of an edge
Speaker 4: to it, or it has like making it it's doing
Speaker 4: something interesting. So yeah, I'd see this one. And Kristick
Speaker 4: loves it.
Speaker 2: Ronnie says, I love the Baking Show in spite of
Speaker 2: Noel Fielding.
Speaker 3: To be clear, I love no Fielding. What's wrong with
Speaker 3: nol Fielding?
Speaker 4: He's such a gentle giant.
Speaker 2: What's wrong with no He was great on Taskmaster? I
Speaker 2: love Taskmaster, maybe the best show of all time. Oscilloscope
Speaker 2: is releasing The Cruise from nineteen ninety eight on Blu
Speaker 2: Raine DVD this summer, and you can pre order this
Speaker 2: now on their website on Amazon. A bunch of places,
Speaker 2: this one is sailing the streets of Manhattan atop a
Speaker 2: double decker bus. Timothy speed Levitch waxes philosophical as the
Speaker 2: city's most eccentric tour guide speeds bombastic and psychedelic poetry
Speaker 2: is captured of the documentary The Cruise, the groundbreaking debut
Speaker 2: feature film from two time Academy nominated director Bennett Miller,
Speaker 2: who also did Capodi, Moneyball, and Fox Catcher.
Speaker 3: So I need to see this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Interestingly, I think this is really good. That you know,
Speaker 4: he's like he got famous for being one of the
Speaker 4: best tour guides and this is sort of like a
Speaker 4: documentary of around the way he explained New York and
Speaker 4: like kind of awesome. Okay, Mary Berry is the original. Yes,
Speaker 4: she's the best. Crew can't compare to Mary Berry. We
Speaker 4: could easily. Oh man, there's some o G baking show
Speaker 4: fans in here. This we redirect this conversation to just
Speaker 4: like a baking show for you guys, because Sue and
Speaker 4: Mel were Okay. The person who I never really associated
Speaker 4: with that much at all or like connected to it
Speaker 4: all was the Danish woman. And I'm sorry, I can't
Speaker 4: remember her name, no disrespect, but I just her jokes
Speaker 4: never landed. I don't know, I never got got into her.
Speaker 3: But I love the surname Danielle. No, that was just
Speaker 3: a Dane joke. I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: Oh no, But the team this year is great. I
Speaker 4: this year is great, But yeah, I really want to
Speaker 4: see this. Actually, who's putting this out?
Speaker 3: The cruise Scope.
Speaker 4: Oh hell yeah, Sandy Sandy toxic? Okay, no offense are like?
Speaker 4: Is that? Who is our on Discord?
Speaker 2: That's Ronnie? Ronnie is not enarch Discord.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay Ronnie. Sorry Ronnie. I mean I still
Speaker 4: watched everything.
Speaker 3: I love that. You just assume everybody in the chat
Speaker 3: is in the Discord.
Speaker 4: You have a driving community, Ryan broy Discord. It's it's great, but.
Speaker 2: You now watch Ronnie say, I've been to the Discord
Speaker 2: since date one?
Speaker 3: How do you not know? And I'm gonna feel terrible.
Speaker 4: But yes. And so in conclusion, the cruise looks great
Speaker 4: and everybody should watch it and Audie Murphy is the hero.
Speaker 3: What a great book review? Thank you.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sand Piper Pictures another company that people just absolutely abhor,
Speaker 2: which I totally get. June third, they're putting out a
Speaker 2: blu ray of leaving Las Vegas from nineteen ninety five.
Speaker 2: For those that don't know Sandpiper Pictures. This isn't going
Speaker 2: to be like a Rave review or anything, but they
Speaker 2: used to be all of Pictures. It's the same exact people.
Speaker 2: They have rebranded as Sandpiper Pictures and they are legitimately
Speaker 2: just rereleasing things they're not making new bonus features. If
Speaker 2: the previous disc had some sometimes they port them over.
Speaker 2: They don't get new restorations. It's literally just to keep
Speaker 2: a title in print. And on that note, I'm fine
Speaker 2: with it. I like titles being in print. That's a
Speaker 2: good thing.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 2: The other hand of me, like leaving Las Vegas is
Speaker 2: a pretty big title. This would be great to have
Speaker 2: a really nice release of this with new extras.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, seriously, yeah, this is like like you could
Speaker 4: even see VSU or something putting this out as like
Speaker 4: some of them.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, this could have been VSU, This could
Speaker 2: have been VSL, this could have been.
Speaker 3: Cinematograph even.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure why not? I mean like it's the right
Speaker 4: time era. All the films had a great rep prim Ali. No, well,
Speaker 4: I know for sure that they had a specialty line
Speaker 4: that was like their Criterion line, and I can't remember
Speaker 4: the name of it right now. I have a few
Speaker 4: of them, Like they put out bound on the line
Speaker 4: and they put up I knew maybe. Anyways, they put
Speaker 4: out a few titles.
Speaker 2: Yeah is it like signature picks or something like.
Speaker 4: That something, But anyways, but that but those releases were great.
Speaker 2: Well, look at that it was close alive signature, says Jack. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and John says the artwork style is exactly the same
Speaker 2: as all the films too. Somebody on the I think
Speaker 2: it was the blu ray dot com forum somehow found
Speaker 2: like an address for them, and it even matched up
Speaker 2: to where.
Speaker 3: All the films used to be listening. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they also did Bucket of Blood. Good job, Jack, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: that's right.
Speaker 4: Well, put the rumor out that they stopped paying their
Speaker 4: taxes and had to bankrupt and then had to rebrand.
Speaker 4: That's what happened to all the films. Okay, that's the
Speaker 4: official story.
Speaker 2: According to Chris Askell of They Live by Film, not
Speaker 2: of the other two podcasts. Oh man, somebody from Sandpiper's
Speaker 2: right now just comment and it's gonna come in and
Speaker 2: be like thirty lines long. The next one from them
Speaker 2: is a Midsummer Night's Stream from nineteen sixty eight.
Speaker 3: This is big one in home.
Speaker 2: David Warner, Diana rig Helen mirrentitle another one just to
Speaker 2: re release. Yeah, I know a lot of people love
Speaker 2: Shakespeare stuff and this probably would sell very well in
Speaker 2: a fancy release. But you'll be able to get it
Speaker 2: for twenty four to ninety five for the next five years.
Speaker 4: You know, Craig brings up something I want to circle
Speaker 4: back to at the end of the discussion when we
Speaker 4: talk about maybe if we could squeeze it in because Craig,
Speaker 4: I think there's an interesting thing that's happening where this
Speaker 4: is just my opinion, like if you put out a
Speaker 4: standard edition, now you're like the devil. But like because
Speaker 4: of companies like dev Crocodile that are spoiling people with
Speaker 4: like amazing releases, right and vinegar syndrome. I'm just saying
Speaker 4: you first, because you're the best, right, But like all
Speaker 4: these companies are coming out with these like unbelievable editions
Speaker 4: of these movies. So if a standard edition comes out,
Speaker 4: I think people are like, but you know, like I
Speaker 4: don't know, there's room for that too, I think, right,
Speaker 4: So it's like a.
Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting is there is room for that. But
Speaker 2: like Mill Creek, we're talking about maybe like seven or
Speaker 2: eight good Mill Creek releases a year right now, and
Speaker 2: they used to do like five a month, and they
Speaker 2: were that company for a long time. Olive was gone
Speaker 2: and now back as Sandpiper, and you know, there's been
Speaker 2: a handful of others, but to do to do a
Speaker 2: re release is important these titles. You know, contractually most
Speaker 2: contracts are only five years. A title like Malice starring
Speaker 2: Alec Baldwin and Cole Kidman and Bill Pullman deserves to
Speaker 2: be on disc and available. But is it likely to
Speaker 2: get a huge release or a four K restoration and
Speaker 2: you know, a one hundred page perfect bound book.
Speaker 3: Probably not.
Speaker 4: Who would do it? It's not a seven title, so no,
Speaker 4: I agree. Yeah, Like these movies like this are kind
Speaker 4: of a weird spot, right, yeah, So.
Speaker 3: This is the next one.
Speaker 2: Like we just mentioned Malice from nineteen ninety three, it's
Speaker 2: a hitchcocky and thriller. So Chris is gonna hate it,
Speaker 2: but the cast is great.
Speaker 3: I had to I'm.
Speaker 4: Sorry, Okay, I want I won't correct it.
Speaker 2: The next one is Rush, coming on the same date
Speaker 2: June third, nineteen ninety one, with Jason Patrick Jennifer Jason Lee.
Speaker 2: Jennifer Jason Lee is credible in everything she touches. Speaking
Speaker 2: of war heroes, this says about an undercover cop U
Speaker 2: and he was a seasoned veteran and supposedly this is
Speaker 2: very depressing. I've never been able to see Rush but
Speaker 2: I need to see it.
Speaker 4: No, this one for some reason. I know this is
Speaker 4: going to sound like a batchit crazy thing to say,
Speaker 4: but there's a movie called They. They live by Horses,
Speaker 4: They shoot horses horses.
Speaker 3: Don't They?
Speaker 4: And Rush, in my mind, are a similar amount of
Speaker 4: like sad nothing of the same movie like by any means,
Speaker 4: but like they're these sort of like depressing movies that
Speaker 4: are both supposed to be excellent. Yeah, like like I mean,
Speaker 4: Russia is supposed to be amazing. I will see it eventually,
Speaker 4: but like I kind of have to be in a
Speaker 4: mood for it because it's just like I don't know,
Speaker 4: like I can't these ones that are just like a long,
Speaker 4: heavy like I can't. I can't do that all the time.
Speaker 2: Zepam is asking, I don't think all have put out
Speaker 2: leaving Las Vegas before, though, did they? I thought it
Speaker 2: was just MGM, You're right. We are not saying they're
Speaker 2: only re releasing all of pictures titles because they've put
Speaker 2: out titles as screen Factories put out. They've put titles
Speaker 2: that anybody will It's it's just a matter of they've
Speaker 2: rebranded and now they're only selling titles that already have
Speaker 2: had an HD release and they're they're not putting any
Speaker 2: money into special features or restorations at all. The impret
Speaker 2: edition of Russia is great for anyone after the movie.
Speaker 2: It's in the Neonora number one brilliant film. Dustin loved
Speaker 2: They Lived by Horses.
Speaker 4: Okay, accidental self promotion.
Speaker 2: And Zepam says, seems like they're doing a bunch of
Speaker 2: MGM stuff. They are a lot of boutiques don't really
Speaker 2: love working with the MGM. MGM is very very restrictive
Speaker 2: about everything. I mean, they require certain things to never
Speaker 2: be in visual essays. They are very particular about restorations
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. It says it sounds like Keno leftovers. Honestly,
Speaker 2: that's probably a decent shout there. It's it's titles that
Speaker 2: everybody's passed over, and they went, well, these are out
Speaker 2: of print. I bet they'll sell.
Speaker 4: Okay, we have fun City editions at home.
Speaker 2: The next one from them is Great Balls of Fire
Speaker 2: from nineteen ninety one, and goddamn if that doesn't seem
Speaker 2: right in line with what you just said. This is
Speaker 2: starring Dennis Quaid, Why own a writer, Alec Baldwin and
Speaker 2: Steven Tabolawski. Yeah, Roller Ye is the next one.
Speaker 3: This is from nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 2: This is starring Linda Blair and yet another one that
Speaker 2: a lot of people have already had from the previous release.
Speaker 3: Yeah, glad this will be in print.
Speaker 4: Though I didn't know that Dennis Quator was in a
Speaker 4: remake of Great Balls of Fire.
Speaker 3: That's funny in the nineties.
Speaker 4: That's super interesting. Is the girl is his love interest?
Speaker 4: Like twelve or whatever?
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not sure, I've not seen it, but yes, probably.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Then they also got Life Stinks, the nineteen ninety one
Speaker 2: Mail Brooks film.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, why.
Speaker 4: This is a How are they getting Melon Brooks movies?
Speaker 4: I thought all of his head physical release. Jack, I'll
Speaker 4: I'll do this on paper podcast at Fuel. You'll come
Speaker 4: on join me.
Speaker 3: It will be two episodes.
Speaker 2: The first one will be normal, very long, and the
Speaker 2: second one will just be cap it. We're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about Sandpiper again in just a minute. But her Zone
Speaker 2: a label that you and I have discussed quite a lot.
Speaker 2: They are putting out a four K of Orlando from
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety two on June second over in the UK. Yes,
Speaker 2: this has been on four K for a while in
Speaker 2: the Sony Columbia or not Sony Columbia, the Sony Sony Classics,
Speaker 2: Sony Pictures Classics, Sony Pictures Classics. That's the title box set,
Speaker 2: but it's not been released outside of that. So now,
Speaker 2: if you just wanted Orlando, which arguably many have said
Speaker 2: Orlando is the best Sony Pictures Classics title literally ever,
Speaker 2: now you can get just this one. Legitimately. That's like
Speaker 2: a lot of people's favorite.
Speaker 4: Okay, they just have like they have an incredible catalog.
Speaker 4: That's the thing too, Like, I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's hard to say number two. By the way, I'll
Speaker 4: stop it too.
Speaker 2: Oh and everybody's saying she's thirteen and his cousin.
Speaker 4: It's a that. Let's move on. It's a it's a
Speaker 4: terrible joke about the Jerry Lee Lewis or whatever his
Speaker 4: name is, Jerry Lewis or whatever. Yeah, and like he's
Speaker 4: marrying his thirteen year old cousin. I don't want to
Speaker 4: too much attention to it, don't so.
Speaker 2: On April twenty ninth, Sony is releasing Paddington in Peru
Speaker 2: on Blu ray H. This was released in the UK
Speaker 2: on four K for anybody that is one of the
Speaker 2: four K or die people. The hard part is the
Speaker 2: Paddington films are not from the same studio in the US,
Speaker 2: which means you're never gonna get a box set. But
Speaker 2: in the UK there is a three pack of all
Speaker 2: three on four K.
Speaker 3: What happened?
Speaker 4: Because the second Paddington movie is legitimately a great movie.
Speaker 3: Yep, Like.
Speaker 4: Like I was, I thought I was. I watched it
Speaker 4: because of the memes, but I was blown away, like
Speaker 4: it's an amazing movie. But this movie everybody hates it, like,
Speaker 4: universally hates it.
Speaker 2: I've not heard that. I will say, I've not heard
Speaker 2: anybody say they hate.
Speaker 4: It really, yeah, because okay, maybe the vinegar syndrome discord
Speaker 4: is a little harsher than the regular I get all
Speaker 4: of my movies.
Speaker 3: Don't say discord. Oh that's why you're so off tonight.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like everybody in that very selective group universally
Speaker 4: hated it and called it a piece of shit and stuff.
Speaker 3: It is a pretty selective group.
Speaker 4: But so Paddington prove is good.
Speaker 3: I mean, I've not seen it.
Speaker 2: I've heard it's okay, I've heard it's lesser than the
Speaker 2: first two which are known as masterpieces essentially.
Speaker 4: But it's so good, Okay, Pattington Too is just yeah, no, Aeron.
Speaker 4: I thought that was kind of the issue, like how
Speaker 4: do you compete with Paddington Too? But like, okay, okay, Ronnie,
Speaker 4: that's good to know. All right, fine, I'll check it
Speaker 4: out because like I love like the second one was amazing. Anyways,
Speaker 4: we can go on, David Lean.
Speaker 3: We can talk about Paddington all night. I can David
Speaker 3: Lean on you for that. That was a terrible pump too.
Speaker 2: Imprint announced these last week and somehow I thought I
Speaker 2: posted these on Friday. I just didn't and only posted
Speaker 2: it just a couple of days ago. David Lean is
Speaker 2: getting a box set from Imprint on May twenty eighth.
Speaker 2: This is David Lean Volume one, so they got at
Speaker 2: least another box set coming from him. This is all
Speaker 2: Blu Ray and releasing in Australia. And in this we
Speaker 2: have from nineteen forty two to nineteen forty eight, in
Speaker 2: which we serve this happy breed, blithe Spirit, Brief Encounter,
Speaker 2: Great Expectations, and Oliver Twist. It's going to come in
Speaker 2: one of their signature hard box releases. And they've got
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of new extras on the titles they've got.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's imprint, so they're putting money into contextual extras.
Speaker 2: They're going to be great, new interviews, new interviews.
Speaker 3: On pretty much all of these.
Speaker 2: I believe new documentary on the works of David Lean
Speaker 2: part one, part two will come in the next box
Speaker 2: set that they do on him, which is really exciting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great stuff. I mean, this sounds incredible.
Speaker 4: Don't sleep on Oliver Twist if you have even the
Speaker 4: slightest interest in surrealism. I'll say it for the second
Speaker 4: time tonight. Oliver Twist is amazing and great expectations. Also,
Speaker 4: like his his adaptations of who is that is that Dickens? Yep,
Speaker 4: Charles Dickens, right, Yeah, he like I've never I don't
Speaker 4: think it would ever be possible to capture the spirit
Speaker 4: of those books the way that he does, but also
Speaker 4: like brings him to life in a very exciting way.
Speaker 3: Like you didn't you didn't like him?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying that I was gonna argue the Muppets.
Speaker 2: Christmas Carol did it better.
Speaker 4: But anyways, oh well no, no, no, no, no, Christmas Carol,
Speaker 4: there's no competition, it's the Muppets. No, I'm with you
Speaker 4: on that, but for these two, like like Great Expectations
Speaker 4: is a tough book to put into a film because
Speaker 4: there's a lot of dialogue and and it's one of
Speaker 4: those books that your teachers like torture you with you
Speaker 4: have to read it in school and stuff. But it
Speaker 4: made me re appreciate the story. He nails it, and
Speaker 4: then Oliver Twist is even better.
Speaker 3: Good stuff. And if that's not enough for you.
Speaker 2: As far as box sets, they're also doing the Lawrence
Speaker 2: Olivier Shakespeare Trilogy from nineteen forty four to fifty five,
Speaker 2: So this will have Henry the Fifth, Hamlet, and Richard
Speaker 2: the Third. This will be same as the last one,
Speaker 2: fifteen hundred copies, only coming in a hard box release
Speaker 2: with individual cases. For all the films. We've got new
Speaker 2: visual essay on the film adaptations of Henry the Fifth
Speaker 2: by Martin Contarrio. On the Hamlet disc we had a
Speaker 2: new visual essay on Olivier's Hamlet and the British War
Speaker 2: Effort by Ontario, a new interview with the professor Abigail
Speaker 2: Rocussan Woodall, and then on Richard I, we got a
Speaker 2: new visual essay by Adrian Smith, and then a new
Speaker 2: interview with Guy Adams on the films of Olivier for
Speaker 2: Olivier fans. And I know Stan is excited hopefully to
Speaker 2: be able to get this one someday to see this.
Speaker 2: This is this is a big deal to get all
Speaker 2: these in one box set for a lot of people.
Speaker 4: Did is this Region C? Or like is this Do
Speaker 4: you know if this is region locked or not? Because
Speaker 4: this they're just putting out a bunch of out of
Speaker 4: print criterion stuff.
Speaker 2: This is Region B. Australia falls under Region B. Regenc
Speaker 2: is only certain parts of Asia.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, but this is but is it like region B?
Speaker 4: Or is it like it will.
Speaker 3: Be region free? It'll say Region B on the back,
Speaker 3: but it will be region free.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, because this these are these movies are all amazing,
Speaker 4: like this set learned Olivier. I think, like he, some
Speaker 4: of the people don't talk about it a lot anymore
Speaker 4: because I don't know for whatever reason that like, these
Speaker 4: movies are all excellent. They're very very well made.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you want more information on Olivier, Stan who
Speaker 2: is a super fan or a Stan as it is called,
Speaker 2: wrote two uh, well one, but we had to divide
Speaker 2: it between two issues. Very long pieces on Olivier that
Speaker 2: you could check out the physical Media Advocat from last
Speaker 2: year really really interesting.
Speaker 3: I loved reading it.
Speaker 2: Then their third box set for this month, also coming
Speaker 2: on May twenty eighth, is Film Focus Carol Baker from
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty one to sixty five. This is going to
Speaker 2: include Something Wild, Sylvia and Harlow. Sylvia is a first
Speaker 2: time on Blu Ray anywhere in the World, and as usual,
Speaker 2: you got new extras on here. We got a new
Speaker 2: interview on Something Wild with Foster Hirsch, new interview with
Speaker 2: Lucy Bolton on the career of Carol Baker. We've got
Speaker 2: on Sylvia, where is that new interview with Foster Hirsch again,
Speaker 2: new visual essay on Carol Baker by Daniel Kramer, and
Speaker 2: usually he does stuff on directors primarily, so it's interesting
Speaker 2: to see him break out into this. And then on
Speaker 2: Harlow we had a new interview with Foster Hirsch as well,
Speaker 2: So brand new extras on all three. Pretty pretty exciting
Speaker 2: to get these as well. I know there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people that after seven put out their Lindsey Baker
Speaker 2: box set they got really excited about Carol Baker and
Speaker 2: she's gotten some love over the last few years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask if there's any ties to that,
Speaker 4: But that's cool. This is a This is all the
Speaker 4: same month.
Speaker 2: All three of those are in May from Imprint, Yes
Speaker 2: a month. This one was announced later, but also coming
Speaker 2: from Sandpiper Pictures on the same day as all those
Speaker 2: ones we talked about. This is the Charge of the
Speaker 2: Light Brigade from nineteen sixty eight, David Hemming's Vanessa Redgrave.
Speaker 2: Just you know, small names in classic Hollywood cinema.
Speaker 4: Interesting, you know there's a there's that label. I can't
Speaker 4: believe I'm blanking on the name right now. I love
Speaker 4: the guy. He's a one man shop. He puts out
Speaker 4: a lot of silent films.
Speaker 3: Ben Modell is the owner.
Speaker 4: No, not that one, No, not that one, not under Crank.
Speaker 4: But he's on the left coast and he puts out
Speaker 4: he put out the Jack, the Da Vivier set, and
Speaker 4: he puts out a lot of what's his Anyways. They
Speaker 4: also have a line that they tried out for a
Speaker 4: while of because they were putting like forty fifty dollars
Speaker 4: releases out in licker Ally, flicker Alley, thank you, And
Speaker 4: they also put out a line of like lesser features
Speaker 4: and sort of like a quicker like like a less
Speaker 4: put together package, you know, for twenty bucks twenty five bucks.
Speaker 4: I wonder how that's doing. By the way, that Sandpaper
Speaker 4: kind of is making me think.
Speaker 3: Of them interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean, licker Alley is doing a lot more work
Speaker 2: than Sandpaper.
Speaker 4: Will say, yeah, maybe it's not fair to compare, yeah,
Speaker 4: but I know they were just it's kind of like
Speaker 4: Janice Contemporaries is another one, like like there's some of
Speaker 4: this that they're you know, Eclipse was doing it on
Speaker 4: DVD right there. They are like there is somewhat of
Speaker 4: a history. I'm trying to give the people from all
Speaker 4: of some love if possible, Like there is some history
Speaker 4: of like physical media companies doing this kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I guess right, not Flicker Rally, though I will say
Speaker 2: flicker Rally has always been really great on the restorations
Speaker 2: and the extras. True Keno on May twenty seventh is
Speaker 2: releasing a lot of stuff this first one and most
Speaker 2: of them actually we had already heard about previously, but
Speaker 2: we got some extras.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, Okay, hold on, let me find
Speaker 4: the name of the line. Flicker Alley is amazing. But
Speaker 4: there's a line they tried that's like their budget line
Speaker 4: and they even announced it.
Speaker 3: Is that.
Speaker 4: That's all I'm talking.
Speaker 2: About, Cinema of Discovery. Is that what you're talking about,
Speaker 2: because that was what the dvvier set was.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no no no. They specifically had
Speaker 4: a whole line that came out. It was just because
Speaker 4: when he came on they lived by film. He talked
Speaker 4: about this. It was a whole line Flickerfusion, Flickerfusion, so
Speaker 4: it was sixth Okay, maybe they stopped making them, so
Speaker 4: maybe it didn't take off. I hope it did. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: like right now some of them are on sale for
Speaker 4: like five bucks. Unfortunately done well. I hope it's I
Speaker 4: hope it takes off for him. But the whole thing
Speaker 4: was just like it was meant to be. This like
Speaker 4: budget thing is my whole point, right, No, dude, no,
Speaker 4: the take is not that Flicker Alley's cheap. No no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: They're one of the best at restoring and giving love
Speaker 4: to like classic cinema. Forget it. I'm digging myself into
Speaker 4: it deeper.
Speaker 2: It is a good point here from Craig Sandpiper is
Speaker 2: not budget. They're literally charging twenty five dollars for re
Speaker 2: releases with no ball features.
Speaker 3: Okay, budget should be like fifteen for those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 2: So, like I was saying, cuta Lober on May twenty seventh,
Speaker 2: releasing a bunch of titles, a bunch of ones that
Speaker 2: have been announced, but now we're talking about extras. This
Speaker 2: first one, I'll Sleep and I'm Dead from two thousand
Speaker 2: and three Clive Owen classic movie. A lot of people
Speaker 2: love this. Obviously it's Mike Hodges and that's big deal.
Speaker 2: No new extras on this whatsoever. They did carry over
Speaker 2: the audio commentary featurette, some deleted scenes, but nothing new,
Speaker 2: which is kind of crazy on this one.
Speaker 4: Who's the second actor in?
Speaker 3: That? Is it?
Speaker 4: Who's it's Jonathan Rice Myers? Yeah, Jonathan Ree Myers. That's yeah.
Speaker 4: This is a fun one. That's a good movie.
Speaker 2: Next up is Natan Hayes. We had talked about this previously.
Speaker 2: This is with Tommy Lee Jones and Michael O'Keefe is
Speaker 2: also getting a blue on May twenty seventh. This will
Speaker 2: have a new audio commentary by Dwayne Epstein and a
Speaker 2: second new audio commentary with Mike Leader and Russell Waltz
Speaker 2: er Wait wait what am I waiting for?
Speaker 3: So that's cool.
Speaker 2: They gave this one two new commentaries, but not a
Speaker 2: new one on I'll Sleep when I'm Dead, which I
Speaker 2: feel like you could have done a lot on Hodges
Speaker 2: on that one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely is this Mike Leader is like our Mike Leader,
Speaker 4: like like v MIC leader.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: Good for him. I know he's wanting to get out
Speaker 4: of just doing Hong Kong stuff. Good for him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, both Arna and Mike have been not they're not
Speaker 2: feuding or anything, but they've they've been separating and doing
Speaker 2: more of the things that they each individually love rather
Speaker 2: than just the martial arts stuff, which is really nice to.
Speaker 3: See them be able to do. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Good, that's cool.
Speaker 2: Then we got Last Breath, which is a movie from
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four that I've heard is incredible. This is
Speaker 2: coming on April twenty ninth from Universal and it stars
Speaker 2: Woody Harrelson, Simoulu and Finn Cole. It's about deep sea
Speaker 2: divers and they're battling some elements as their crewmate gets
Speaker 2: trapped under water and they're like getting dragged along the
Speaker 2: bottom of the ocean with like the anchor being dragged
Speaker 2: and all kinds of stuff going on. It's supposed to
Speaker 2: be great. You got an audio commentary on here, and
Speaker 2: it's got making of and a couple more things that
Speaker 2: they didn't announce, which probably means like so titles or
Speaker 2: a trailer, and that's it. Usually when it's a studio disc,
Speaker 2: you don't say and more lessens and be something great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this has, this has I can't remember where I've
Speaker 4: seen it. There's a really funny meme about one of
Speaker 4: the actors in this movie named Cliff Curtis, because he's
Speaker 4: like he's used to play just like any like brown
Speaker 4: character and and it's a really funny either YouTube maybe Dan.
Speaker 4: I can't remember where I saw it now, but it's
Speaker 4: if I'll try to post it in your in your
Speaker 4: discord and then separately for Ronnie because he hasn't joined yet.
Speaker 2: But Ronnie is definitely a woman by the way.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm sorry she hasn't done yet, alrighty, but I'll
Speaker 4: post it if I find it. It's it's funny because
Speaker 4: he's even he's very self aware of just playing like
Speaker 4: any ethnic character.
Speaker 2: I think when Stan is saying Cliff Curtis is great
Speaker 2: and Sunshine, when do we get a great release of Sunshine?
Speaker 2: That movie deserves some contextual extras.
Speaker 4: Heck you.
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 2: Next up after the Last Breath, Hey, this features you
Speaker 2: as well. The brand new issue of the Physical Media
Speaker 2: Advocate is finally printed. We had like four things get
Speaker 2: in the way this month. This was supposed to come
Speaker 2: out on March first and just barely went to print.
Speaker 2: So you can check this out on Amazon and in
Speaker 2: retail now. Also, if you are a Patreon subscriber, those
Speaker 2: are ordered and they will be on the way to.
Speaker 3: Your house soon.
Speaker 2: If you are somebody else who wants one of these,
Speaker 2: you can subscribe at the Patreon by a single issue
Speaker 2: for me, or go to Amazon whatever you want. But
Speaker 2: this one I wanted to bring up tonight because we
Speaker 2: never talked in depth about what you've done for Physical
Speaker 2: Media Advocate so far. What are you covering an arrow alley, sir?
Speaker 4: So specifically in this episode, in this edition or in general.
Speaker 2: I mean the whole thing. It's all been one ongoing series.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that was just a I thought it would
Speaker 4: be kind of fun to track the first hundred titles
Speaker 4: that Aero put out because it's like a it's like
Speaker 4: a film school in a box, like for genre and
Speaker 4: exploitation movies. And there's a great artist called Elizabeth UW
Speaker 4: that I went out and like commissioned a piece of
Speaker 4: art for mike O. Kaji was like it's blood dripping
Speaker 4: and I loved it when she's when she showed me,
Speaker 4: and yeah, I just wanted to kind of like I think,
Speaker 4: you know, we don't talk arrows on an interesting trajectory
Speaker 4: because they've become sort of they've just been putting out
Speaker 4: like a whole bunch of like big titles now, like
Speaker 4: huge Hollywood titles now, but their origins are you know,
Speaker 4: horror and genre and exploitation from like every country. And
Speaker 4: so there's like Greek stuff, there's a ton of Japanese stuff,
Speaker 4: a ton of Italian Spanish. Like it's cool, Like I
Speaker 4: really love the first hundred movies. So the segment's called
Speaker 4: arrow Alley and it's anywhere from what like two to
Speaker 4: four movies a month that I mean an episode that
Speaker 4: go in there. And it's an honor to do it
Speaker 4: because the physical media advocate I was there when you
Speaker 4: were kind of brainstorming the idea and it's like really
Speaker 4: taken off into becoming something that really proud to be
Speaker 4: a part of.
Speaker 2: It's an honor to have you. I mean, to have
Speaker 2: Elizabeth's art in there is really incredible to.
Speaker 3: Look at that.
Speaker 2: Stan giving you some very specific love. Every single month
Speaker 2: we talked about it. So, yeah, I appreciate what you've
Speaker 2: been able to do. The rest of the stuff, there's
Speaker 2: a lot in here. One of my favorite pieces. Stan
Speaker 2: got a couple people that he used to work with
Speaker 2: at a video store literally decades ago, and they all
Speaker 2: got together and just reminisced about working in the store
Speaker 2: and we got pictures from back in the day all
Speaker 2: in the issue.
Speaker 3: Check it out. We did a really fun.
Speaker 2: Piece on bad movie posters this issue, and oh my god,
Speaker 2: you're gonna love some of them that you've probably never
Speaker 2: seen before. It is a fun issue. Check it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Umbrella.
Speaker 2: These all got announced in the middle of the night
Speaker 2: last night, US time, and this is a huge fricking
Speaker 2: month from them. These are coming on July ninth in Australia.
Speaker 2: This first one is a Blu Ray release of Intacto
Speaker 2: from two thousand and one, not what I've seen, but
Speaker 2: some gorgeous art on this one. They've got a great
Speaker 2: set of extras on everything this month. This one is
Speaker 2: gonna have a forty eight page booklet in it. We've
Speaker 2: got a new essay, Rigid Slipcase and all that reversible poster.
Speaker 3: Numbered release.
Speaker 2: New interview with the co writer on this film, New
Speaker 2: the Next Reels, Andy Nelson and pe Wright talk about
Speaker 2: the film archival commentary. There's a short film on here,
Speaker 2: lots of making of there's a Max von sidao trailer reel,
Speaker 2: new stills gallery, like, there's a lot on here.
Speaker 4: Oh this movie, man, I haven't thought about this movie
Speaker 4: on a while. This movie is awesome.
Speaker 5: This is what is.
Speaker 4: This is how I learned of the term magical realism.
Speaker 4: Nice because I was like, what is going on in
Speaker 4: this and then I was researching it, and then people
Speaker 4: that were smarter than me were talking about magical realism. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this movie is really good.
Speaker 3: It's good to hear.
Speaker 2: I am very much considering this one. I've not been
Speaker 2: compelled for something like this in a long time.
Speaker 3: This looks incredible.
Speaker 2: Next one is another one that somehow I've missed, But
Speaker 2: Jeremy has been talking up to Me All Day. The
Speaker 2: Science of Sleep from two thousand and seven, a Michelle
Speaker 2: Gondry film, also getting a big Blu ray release on
Speaker 2: July ninth. This is also with Charlotte Gainsberg, who's great
Speaker 2: that you and I talked about last year on a
Speaker 2: couple episodes that they lived by film, forty eight page booklet.
Speaker 2: In this one limited numbered release, we had a new
Speaker 2: commentary by Gregory Ferris. We've got a dream spaces the
Speaker 2: artist Andrew Frost on The Science of Sleep, Clayman Making
Speaker 2: of Art, featurette, archival commentary, lots of other stuff coming
Speaker 2: in this. This looks like a pretty incredible release. Not
Speaker 2: to mention the packaging they're putting together for this film
Speaker 2: seems to really fit with the style of this movie
Speaker 2: and just knowing that it's a Michel Gondry film, this
Speaker 2: this looks really incredible. You need to get a calendar.
Speaker 4: That's cool.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: Michelle Gandry is one that like, if you like his stuff,
Speaker 4: you like his stuff, right, like he I love I
Speaker 4: love this movie and he's he's my favorite that I
Speaker 4: like to talk about if we ever have to talk
Speaker 4: about like practical effects and perspective and just doing stuff
Speaker 4: like he'll instead of using a CGI or whatever, he'll
Speaker 4: right sold Marn. That's all I needed to hear. I
Speaker 4: love he he He's the kind of guy that would
Speaker 4: rather create one set that's like all black and one
Speaker 4: set that's all white with clouds, and then transition the
Speaker 4: camera so it looks like they're going from sleep to
Speaker 4: waking up. Like he would rather do that physically than
Speaker 4: through any kind of animation. And it's cool, like the
Speaker 4: behind the behind the scene features for his movies are
Speaker 4: always as interesting or better than the movies because seeing
Speaker 4: the way his brain works, it's just like like he's
Speaker 4: an actual magician. Some of the stuff that he does.
Speaker 4: It's really really, really cool. And I think this is
Speaker 4: an underrated movie. This is a fun one.
Speaker 2: Key Ray is pointing out this is the biggest month
Speaker 2: for Umbrella on record, and shout out Key Ray if
Speaker 2: you are active on Facebook. He runs the Umbrella group
Speaker 2: and goes live every time they're doing announcements just to
Speaker 2: hype them up and get a bunch of people. I
Speaker 2: think he's pretty close to a full Umbrella collection if
Speaker 2: I remember right, Like a full Umbrella collection, like for
Speaker 2: the last couple decades, like trying to get all the DVDs.
Speaker 3: I'd love to know how far away you are. Let
Speaker 3: me know the chat.
Speaker 4: Here the sounds like a sex thing, but.
Speaker 3: Australia it is.
Speaker 4: But that's super impressive. Thank you care for your good work.
Speaker 2: Next up from them is another big one, oz Ploitation Rarities,
Speaker 2: Volume three. This is gonna cover nineteen seventy five, eighty two,
Speaker 2: and eighty five, and we've got Scoby Malone from seventy five.
Speaker 2: We've got Goodbye Paradise from eighty two and then The
Speaker 2: Empty Beach from eighty five. All of these are getting
Speaker 2: brand new umbrella restorations, so they're going to look incredible.
Speaker 2: This is gonna come if you buy the deluxe box set,
Speaker 2: it'll have a forty eight page book, some poster cards,
Speaker 2: reversible posters will be a limited number release. And their
Speaker 2: first two Osploitation sets are incredible. This has new commentaries
Speaker 2: with the filmmakers, it's got interviews with the producers, It's
Speaker 2: got a lot of stuff. I mean literally, all three
Speaker 2: titles brand new acts. This is a pretty incredible set,
Speaker 2: especially if you're looking to get into ousplitation. To get
Speaker 2: three restored titles from an Australian company that's proud of them.
Speaker 3: This is a big deal.
Speaker 4: I love I love the work they're doing with OUs Plitation.
Speaker 3: Ryan.
Speaker 4: I think, I hope I'm not wrong with this, but
Speaker 4: I think some of the ones from the first box
Speaker 4: are part of the partner releases with vinegar syndrome. I
Speaker 4: think I'm sorry if I'm leading you astray, but I
Speaker 4: do think there's another way to get those. But yeah,
Speaker 4: there these are must buys. Us Plitation movies are so.
Speaker 2: Fun, especially when they get brain and restorations. They look amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go. Key Rate confirms I have a full
Speaker 2: set and always up to date. That is wild.
Speaker 4: Is that more impressive than a full Criterion collection? What's
Speaker 4: Umbrell up? They've put out a lot of stuff, and
Speaker 4: there's a lot of stuff that doesn't even like come over,
Speaker 4: you know we don't talk.
Speaker 2: About well and not only this is not only like
Speaker 2: Current and Blu rays, but like DVD from more than
Speaker 2: ten years ago. Huge number of titles from Umbrella. I
Speaker 2: love watching your face when a new comment catches your
Speaker 2: eye and you just lost for a minute.
Speaker 4: I was thinking of I don't know if Aaron's comment
Speaker 4: as a reference to the Office, but that's a great
Speaker 4: episode from the Office.
Speaker 2: Then we've got Neverland Nightmare from twenty twenty five. This
Speaker 2: is the third film in the Twisted Childhood Universe, otherwise
Speaker 2: known for many people as the Pooh Niverse since the
Speaker 2: other two of the Winnie the Pooh movies. This is
Speaker 2: gonna include one of their kids books that they did
Speaker 2: for the first two of the Winnie the Pooh books.
Speaker 2: It's a sixteen page book. You've got deleted, seeing sixteen
Speaker 2: art cards and some more lots coming in here for
Speaker 2: a movie that does not look great to me, But
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people love those one of
Speaker 2: the Poop movies.
Speaker 4: They're pretty low on my list on my watch list,
Speaker 4: but one day I'll get to I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 4: think I mean, it's a fun it's a cute little
Speaker 4: concept thing, right.
Speaker 3: Paul says.
Speaker 2: Umbrella has titles that they don't even have a record of.
Speaker 2: They released so much between two thousand and four to
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight, And I mean, Kira for a
Speaker 2: while was posting like I got another Hall from eBay
Speaker 2: and it's like seventeen DVDs that are all super hard
Speaker 2: to find, and he's just like crossing him off his list.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Wait, is Kira like Dice K.
Speaker 3: But but for Umbrella he's the Australia Umbrella. Dice O Kay,
Speaker 3: what an honor?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 2: That works. That works for me. I'm sure you're you're
Speaker 2: into this next one. This is This is already on
Speaker 2: people's list and it hasn't even been released yet. For
Speaker 2: the best release of the year, Umbrella on July ninth
Speaker 2: putting out a Michael Hanneke box set called I Love That.
Speaker 2: It says never Land Nightmare at the Still, I'm an idiot.
Speaker 2: This one has fifteen films in this box set. Holy shit,
Speaker 2: Kira Umbrella has the DVD counts around four thousand and
Speaker 2: five hundred and you have around nine hundred.
Speaker 4: I don't realized they were that prolific. So, yeah, that
Speaker 4: is more impressive than the critia English. Geez. So my
Speaker 4: name for tonight is incorrect because of this box set. Sorry,
Speaker 4: I'm very excited about this.
Speaker 2: So they are putting out Three Paths to the Lake
Speaker 2: Lemmings Part one and Part two, seventh continent Benny's video
Speaker 2: The Rebellion seventy one fragments of a chronology of Chance.
Speaker 2: The Castle Funny Games nineteen ninety seven, Code Unknown, The
Speaker 2: Piano Teacher, Time of the Wolf Hidden also known as Cachet,
Speaker 2: The White Ribbon, and Armor. What's interesting to me is
Speaker 2: I think this is only missing two of his titles,
Speaker 2: if what I read today is correct, one of them
Speaker 2: being the Funny Games remake, which does have a Blu
Speaker 2: Ray but only in like the UK.
Speaker 4: And then that about Old People, right, Yeah, more, I
Speaker 4: think it's.
Speaker 2: Called something yeah, And a lot of these yes have
Speaker 2: been released from some other places. But literally every single
Speaker 2: film in this has incredible extras, a lot of brand
Speaker 2: new stuff. Some of these have never been on Blu
Speaker 2: Ray before. This is a massive, massive get for Umbrella.
Speaker 3: This is huge.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my mind is exactly where Brendan's is. Thank whatever
Speaker 4: God you believe in that Charison didn't get this an
Speaker 4: Umbrella did yet.
Speaker 2: Okay, tra zones in the UK they could still release their.
Speaker 4: Own true true, true, true, But jeez, I didn't realize
Speaker 4: Umbrella was this prolific. That's crazy. I'm learning a lot.
Speaker 4: Three fifty Australian. Yeah, but the exchange rate is good.
Speaker 4: It's only like eighty five dollars US.
Speaker 3: Only eighty five dollars us. That's funny. Oh man, Yeah,
Speaker 3: this is this is wild.
Speaker 2: It's gonna have one hundred plus page hardbound book in
Speaker 2: here exploring the films of Michael Hanneka, includes a bunch
Speaker 2: of essays. It's got a sixteen by twenty inch canvas poster,
Speaker 2: custom die cut rigid case, limited hand numbered release, sorry
Speaker 2: not hand number, just limited numbered release. And then on
Speaker 2: top of all that, like I said, extras galore. So
Speaker 2: on Lemmings, there is Alexandra Heller Nicholas doing a visual
Speaker 2: essay on those films. We got an interview with Hannaka
Speaker 2: that's brand new on the Seventh Continent. New commentary with
Speaker 2: Alison Taylor. Thomas Caldwell is speaking on the Seventh Continent
Speaker 2: on Benny's Video, New commentary with Emma Westwood and Stephen Russell.
Speaker 3: A lot.
Speaker 2: There's so much that is coming on these it is.
Speaker 2: It is wild how much we're getting. New commentary is
Speaker 2: on most of the title, new interviews on a lot
Speaker 2: of the titles. I really do just wish it must
Speaker 2: have been something with licensing. Would have been great if
Speaker 2: they were able to get all of the titles.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't If anyone wants to like look at
Speaker 4: who is somebody said, Paul, you've only seen Piano Teacher.
Speaker 4: Obviously a lot of people are going to be talking
Speaker 4: about Funny Games, rightfully, so, but don't slip on the
Speaker 4: white ribbon. That movie is super super good and I
Speaker 4: think it's going to get rediscovered through this set. Like yeah,
Speaker 4: but I remember I saw a white ribbon in theaters
Speaker 4: and I just remember feeling like, holy cow, Like why
Speaker 4: more people talking about this? It's a really, really, really
Speaker 4: good movie.
Speaker 2: I wanted to shout out specifically on Hidden or Cachet.
Speaker 2: William bib Beyonni and Whitney Seibold are on the commentary.
Speaker 2: I think they both do a visual essay or maybe
Speaker 2: a commentary for another title as well. I think it's
Speaker 2: Funny Games. Actually, bib Beyonni has been on the channel.
Speaker 2: He's a friend of mine, really great critic. Check him out.
Speaker 2: He does incredible work and does not get enough love.
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Yeah, Cashay has You can't really call it
Speaker 4: a jump scare. I guess that's not fair to it,
Speaker 4: but like it has one of the best like surprise,
Speaker 4: just like brutal shocking moments, I think, and because the
Speaker 4: whole film kind of builds suspense and you have a
Speaker 4: lot of false starts and then when it hits it,
Speaker 4: it hits in such a great way. Yeah, Adam, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I agree. It's uh yeah, it's a great movie.
Speaker 2: Brendan wants to know how many of these are HD debuts, Aaron,
Speaker 2: I think I remember him having that answer earlier. I
Speaker 2: think it's two or three are HD debuts something like that.
Speaker 4: Restored by Sandpiper.
Speaker 2: Stan the remake of Funny Games is not included. You
Speaker 2: are correct. It is just the original. Hannuka himself directed
Speaker 2: both of them, and there's got to be something worldwide
Speaker 2: with the rights that it's not able to get another
Speaker 2: release because it should have had one by now, and
Speaker 2: they no.
Speaker 3: Do you not like either one of them? I don't know.
Speaker 4: The original Funny Games is amazing, but the remake is
Speaker 4: like why, Like, there's no point for the remake, don't
Speaker 4: just watch?
Speaker 2: I disagree fully, primarily because of the chemistry and the
Speaker 2: actors in that one.
Speaker 3: I prefer the actors in the in the remake.
Speaker 4: Right, hard disagree the like it's the most unnecessary thing.
Speaker 4: It's I will say it's better than Spike Lee's remake
Speaker 4: of Old Boy.
Speaker 2: Pretty much everything is. But I mean I love Naomi Watts,
Speaker 2: she's incredible in that, and Tim Roth is amazing and
Speaker 2: Brady Corbet, who was you know, just a big renowned
Speaker 2: filmmaker for last year for The Brutalist it was also
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 4: I think if I hadn't seen the original first, if
Speaker 4: I had seen the US win first, I'd probably be
Speaker 4: like super into it. But it's just like the original
Speaker 4: but worse, Like why would you? Why would you remake it?
Speaker 4: There's no point.
Speaker 5: It's not worse, man, you know, it's like.
Speaker 4: The same thing. It's like it's like there's a difference
Speaker 4: between the original idea versus someone being like, okay, I
Speaker 4: just need to do that when I act. I love
Speaker 4: all those actors in it, like I'm not like I
Speaker 4: would you know, they're all great.
Speaker 2: No, Like it's the same director purposely making a shot
Speaker 2: by shot remake.
Speaker 5: Like that's not worse, all right, it is better.
Speaker 4: It is better that he did it, for sure than
Speaker 4: like some cheesy American studio that does not giving him
Speaker 4: credit or something that is better. But I think, why
Speaker 4: there's no reason to remake it? Thank you.
Speaker 2: Kp KB says watching back to back that sounds like
Speaker 2: an awful afternoon. I got it would be awful, but
Speaker 2: for some good news. Not that that wasn't good news,
Speaker 2: that was great news. April twenty second, we are getting
Speaker 2: a four K steal book of Tombstone from Disney. Yes,
Speaker 2: the nineteen ninety three Touchstone Pictures Tombstone. This is a
Speaker 2: pretty huge deal. We don't get many of these. This
Speaker 2: had a brand new four K restoration show up on
Speaker 2: like digital providers recently, and this will not have new
Speaker 2: bonus features or anything like that, but it will have
Speaker 2: the same Blu ray that was in I think it
Speaker 2: was the twenty eleven release, which will also have the
Speaker 2: slightly extended cut that will not be in four K only.
Speaker 2: The theatrical version will be in four K. Incredible movie. One
Speaker 2: of the best westerns of all time. Because I don't
Speaker 2: love westerns either, but this one's amazing. How do you
Speaker 2: feel about Tombstone?
Speaker 4: No, it's amazing. I love every second of it. It's
Speaker 4: super catching and I don't buy a lot of still books.
Speaker 4: But there's a really good addition of Tombstone out somewhere,
Speaker 4: isn't there Not really none? Okay, I might get this then, Yes.
Speaker 2: The Blu ray from twenty eleven is the best and
Speaker 2: it's pretty bad.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I'm sorry, I'm thinking of the DVD. There
Speaker 4: was like a really nice DVD of this. I think
Speaker 4: that I still have.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 4: No, it is the DVD I'm thinking of. But okay, well,
Speaker 4: maybe I'll get.
Speaker 2: This Indicator, which seems to be like they don't announce
Speaker 2: a lot lately, but then they come out of nowhere
Speaker 2: and announce some bangers. Today, June twenty third, four K
Speaker 2: blu ray releases in the UK only of Cardinal Knowledge
Speaker 2: from nineteen seventy one, with Mike Nichols, Jack Nicholson, Candice Bergen,
Speaker 2: Art Garfuncle, Big Names, and Margaret This one is going
Speaker 2: to be a four K UHD presentation with Dolby Vision
Speaker 2: if you get the four K version. We got a
Speaker 2: commentary with Joe's Justin Bozung on this a name I
Speaker 2: don't think I've.
Speaker 3: Ever heard before.
Speaker 2: We've got Mike Nichols and Jason I'm in conversation from
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, Richard Iowade providing an in depth appreciation of
Speaker 2: the film and its director, which is pretty damn exciting.
Speaker 2: Love Richard iowa Da We've got a limited edition booklet
Speaker 2: coming in this as well, with a bunch of stuff
Speaker 2: including archival interviews, new essay by Brad Stevens, and some
Speaker 2: more limited to eight thousand copies, five thousand four k's
Speaker 2: three thousand Blu rays.
Speaker 3: Yeah, UK only title on this one.
Speaker 2: Four k's region free, so if you really want it,
Speaker 2: you got access to it. To me, this screams like
Speaker 2: a Keno or even Criterion.
Speaker 3: I could see putting this out.
Speaker 4: I have not seen Colonel Knowledge before, but I love
Speaker 4: the way Richard Cooaia talks about movies. Yeah, like that
Speaker 4: guy loves movies.
Speaker 2: He really does. If that's not enough for you, They've
Speaker 2: got a Day at the Beach. This is coming on
Speaker 2: Blu Ray in the UK on January, not January Wow,
Speaker 2: June twenty third, and then June twenty fourth in North America.
Speaker 2: This is going to have a four K scan of
Speaker 2: the OCN by Indicator themselves. Two presentations of the film,
Speaker 2: the original cut newly restored, and then the extended version
Speaker 2: presented from a SD master. We've got the original audio
Speaker 2: on this one. There is a feature link documentary on
Speaker 2: the producer from twenty fifteen that they're including behind the
Speaker 2: Camera archival documentary that they're including new English subs, and
Speaker 2: then a limited edition booklet like they always do with
Speaker 2: their releases.
Speaker 3: This is a big one.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised they're not highlighting this more or the C
Speaker 4: word Carnel.
Speaker 3: Close.
Speaker 2: So are you talking about It's weird that they're not
Speaker 2: marketing that Roman Plansky wrote it and they've seen into that.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's some reason they But then
Speaker 4: also this has Peter Seller's and I think it's interesting
Speaker 4: he's credited as a queen. I don't know why he
Speaker 4: shows to credit himself that way, but he's in this. Yeah,
Speaker 4: this is the fun one. This is a good one,
Speaker 4: all right.
Speaker 3: That's a day movie. And then final two titles.
Speaker 2: These ones are interesting because they don't get a lot
Speaker 2: of US only titles or North America only titles. These
Speaker 2: next two are coming out in the US only, no
Speaker 2: UK releases. This is The Gentle Gunman from nineteen fifty
Speaker 2: two getting a four K and Blu ray release. This
Speaker 2: is a interesting way to approach these. That's got a
Speaker 2: four K presentation with Dolby Vision. It's gonna have a
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five director and screenwriter James Deerden introduce his
Speaker 2: father's work. There is a piece from The Guardian from
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty three that's an interview with Dick Bogard, A
Speaker 2: closer look at The Gentle Gunman from twenty twenty two,
Speaker 2: All Hands, a short film from nineteen forty, and then
Speaker 2: a booklet as well.
Speaker 4: This is a out to Basil.
Speaker 2: As I stated, yeah, we had to shout him out tonight.
Speaker 2: And then the last one one of the best titles
Speaker 2: I've seen in a long time of a would I say,
Speaker 2: Dick Bogard sorry stand is Dirk Bogart best titles I've
Speaker 2: seen in a long time? The Ship That Died of
Speaker 2: Shame from nineteen fifty five. The other one from Indicator
Speaker 2: that's getting in North America only four K and Blu
Speaker 2: ray release. This is starring Richard Attenborough and we've got
Speaker 2: a James Jarden introduces his father's work on this one
Speaker 2: as well. There is an interview with Richard Attenborough from
Speaker 2: two thousand and one, An Uneasy Alliance from twenty twenty three,
Speaker 2: where an author and film historian Neil Signard delves into
Speaker 2: the world of ealing studios. I got a short film
Speaker 2: from nineteen forty again on this one. We got another
Speaker 2: limited booklet and love the cover on this one too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know much. Richard Edinburgh is one of
Speaker 4: these guys that like really like sells it when he's
Speaker 4: acting like he really goes for it. Yeah, so this
Speaker 4: seems like a fun action movie. I haven't I haven't
Speaker 4: seen it, but I do want to see it.
Speaker 2: Then April twenty ninth, in the US, we are getting
Speaker 2: a four K steel book from Warner Brothers of Lethal
Speaker 2: Weapon from nineteen eighty seven, and this seems to be
Speaker 2: some of the most divisive cover art I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about that one? There, Chris?
Speaker 4: What's wrong with people? Why would they put this as
Speaker 4: the cover for LEA? This would be a better cover
Speaker 4: for loaded weapon? Mm hm, Like this is not a
Speaker 4: cover for lethal Weapon? Like no, I mean, yeah, there's
Speaker 4: humor in the movie, but like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 2: I feel like they couldn't get likeness rights? But even then,
Speaker 2: like a picture of a gun with the words lethal
Speaker 2: weapon would have been better?
Speaker 4: No anything, Like yeah, this is this is horrible horrible cover, right,
Speaker 4: But like both in the sense that it's not good creatively,
Speaker 4: but also it's not at all a representation of the movie.
Speaker 3: No, not even a little bit.
Speaker 4: No, they fired the art department.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about Lethal Weapon the movie itself?
Speaker 4: It's great, It's wonderful. Like, yeah, this is a like
Speaker 4: we're going to talk about VSA a little bit later.
Speaker 4: This is not necessarily a VSA release, but like this
Speaker 4: is the kind of thing that VSA releases are trying
Speaker 4: to be, right, Like this is a great Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: like a perfect studio action movie. Yeah, it's wonderful.
Speaker 2: Obviously great writing from Shane Black, directed by Richard Donner.
Speaker 3: Fun movie. Interested to see in four K.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Air forty four forty four is started announcing more titles.
Speaker 2: The first one here is alone from two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: There is a collector's edition pre order that they're going
Speaker 2: to be announcing soon. But this one, the trailer they
Speaker 2: put up looks pretty damn creepy. I'm not seeing this one,
Speaker 2: but it looks very interesting.
Speaker 4: I love Era forty forty four forty four because, like
Speaker 4: it's rare that when they it's rare that I've heard
Speaker 4: of a movie they put out. But I love them
Speaker 4: all so far. So I don't usually have a lot
Speaker 4: to say like ahead of time with these movies. They
Speaker 4: Some of the early ones they put out were pretty
Speaker 4: much like classics that have been begging for a release
Speaker 4: for a long time. I don't know about this one.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's in the same boat. I haven't heard of it,
Speaker 4: but I'm a huge fan of what they're doing. The
Speaker 4: only thing I will say and negative about Era forty
Speaker 4: four because I love these guys to death. I wish
Speaker 4: they had an option of no Chotsky's That's the only
Speaker 4: thing I would say.
Speaker 3: I hear you on that one.
Speaker 2: This one is way ahead of time. But wanted to
Speaker 2: be able to point out that Film Masters is working
Speaker 2: with the three D Film Archive to release in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six a three D blu ray of Catwomen of
Speaker 2: the Moon from nineteen fifty four. This premiered in New
Speaker 2: York seventy one years ago. The three D Film Archive
Speaker 2: is working on both of these. They've got both the
Speaker 2: left and right thirty five millimeter master elements and they're
Speaker 2: putting them back together. Three D Film Marchive put up
Speaker 2: this long story about how both of the left and
Speaker 2: right elements were separated, and it's fascinating story. Go check
Speaker 2: that out on their socials, but I'm glad they're doing this.
Speaker 2: Three D film Archive does just astonishing work and it
Speaker 2: takes them a while, but it's because they're putting their
Speaker 2: all into it, and this will look amazing as usual.
Speaker 4: Catwomen of the Moon came out when I was fifteen,
Speaker 4: and I have to admit I was disappointed in the
Speaker 4: lack of nudity when I saw it.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad that you knew in nineteen thirty when
Speaker 2: you were born, that you were going to be doing
Speaker 2: the show. Just a mirror eighty six years later. Ultraman Trigger.
Speaker 2: This is that one Lone Mill Creek title I was
Speaker 2: alluding to earlier May six. They're putting out Ultraman Trigger,
Speaker 2: the complete series plus Ultraman Trigger Episode Z from twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one and twenty two. They kind of do incredible
Speaker 2: work and all the Ultraman stuff, so I'm sure this
Speaker 2: will be great. It's not necessarily my style. I'm not
Speaker 2: into all of the Kaiju stuff, but it looks incredible
Speaker 2: and I did try with the Ultraman.
Speaker 3: I promise careful.
Speaker 4: Careful, because that was that was the hottest take of
Speaker 4: the night. I think I know what you meant to say,
Speaker 4: but not into the Kaiju stuff. Isn't Godzilla technically Kaiju?
Speaker 4: Uh Like, isn't that just mean like monster movies?
Speaker 3: No, I don't. I think there's more to it than that.
Speaker 2: And even then, I mean, I've been on record saying
Speaker 2: before I'm not the world's biggest Godzilla fan. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to force it on myself and get into them more.
Speaker 3: For sure, guys getting.
Speaker 2: I believe somebody will probably correct in the chat, But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think Kaiju has more to do than just monster movie.
Speaker 5: I think it.
Speaker 4: I think, Okay, this is old information that could be wrong.
Speaker 4: I think it means strange creature. I think it's like
Speaker 4: the translation. But I anyways, but I think what you're
Speaker 4: trying to say. If I interpreting your you're right.
Speaker 2: It says it's a giant monster of a type featured
Speaker 2: in Japan Japanese fantasy and science fiction movies and television programs.
Speaker 4: But like the Ultraman series, I'm kind of with you
Speaker 4: on That's why I want to like there's there's a
Speaker 4: certain genre of Japanese movies where it's like people that
Speaker 4: are like big doing things or like silly, silly, more
Speaker 4: silly kind of stuff that's not like kind.
Speaker 3: Of like Power Rangers.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yah yeah yeah, And like I'm not necessarily
Speaker 4: into that, so I think I know what you're trying
Speaker 4: to say.
Speaker 3: That is exactly it. Good job.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Wayne's World too. We just talked about this recently,
Speaker 2: but Kino's already announced details on this one. They're putting
Speaker 2: out Wyne's World two on four K on May twenty seventh. Uh,
Speaker 2: this one is gonna have all the same extras that
Speaker 2: it had previously, nothing else brand new. It's got an
Speaker 2: audio commentary with the director, It's got an extreme close
Speaker 2: up featurette, some TV spots, and a trailer. But I
Speaker 2: will stand by the fact that I said I may
Speaker 2: like this one more than the first one. This movie
Speaker 2: is pretty damn good.
Speaker 3: To Satsu, is that the name I was thinking.
Speaker 4: Of Jack is just typing into hint a point titles
Speaker 4: into Google and.
Speaker 3: Now I'm doing it in another tab.
Speaker 4: How do you positively separate Wayne's World one in two?
Speaker 4: They're both like amazing, They're both incredible, And doesn't this
Speaker 4: one have Ta Carrera or is that the first they
Speaker 4: both do? Are they both do? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I mean like, yeah, this is they're both to
Speaker 4: me like, I don't know, they're classic comedies that age
Speaker 4: and they age well, they're not like they're not just
Speaker 4: sitting there like with hard rs every ten seconds or
Speaker 4: something like. Like, they're just funny, good comedies, now you
Speaker 4: know what I mean? Though sometimes you watch Jackass and
Speaker 4: you're like, but this is this one ages well.
Speaker 3: I want to point out the definition of tokusatsu.
Speaker 2: It says it's a Japanese term for live action films
Speaker 2: or television programs to make heavy use of practical special effects,
Speaker 2: and that's the whole definition of Wikipedia. But it says
Speaker 2: kaiju is a subgenre of tokusatsu, which is very interesting.
Speaker 2: So I don't even know what I meant then, because
Speaker 2: it's clearly not everything involving practical effects.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite. Ryan's taking give me all that blood
Speaker 3: and CGI please, oh man? That is all.
Speaker 2: And then on the same day, May twenty seventh, they
Speaker 2: are putting out their four K of Kingpin that we
Speaker 2: talked about fairly recently. This one does get a new
Speaker 2: audio commentary with Brian Reaeseman and Max every Not sure
Speaker 2: this will likely get a two sided cover so that
Speaker 2: you could flip it around if you want, but they've
Speaker 2: not announced that part yet.
Speaker 3: I'm sure it will be coming soon.
Speaker 4: You know, I wish like I don't love this cover.
Speaker 4: I mean, the artwork is fine, but it makes it
Speaker 4: look you what, this is a terrible poster.
Speaker 3: Okay, good?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because it makes it look almost like Porky's
Speaker 4: or something, and like Kingpin is a really funny movie
Speaker 4: and it's not. I mean, Porky's is funny too, but
Speaker 4: like it's nothing like it, like it's I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's a little I think this poster is making it
Speaker 4: seem like it's some silly slapsticky kind of thing. I
Speaker 4: like it. It has that, but it's not necessarily that.
Speaker 4: Like No is a smart comedy and it's very funny.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, this is this is very very good. That
Speaker 2: is that is it?
Speaker 3: My friend.
Speaker 2: For the announcements, we went through all of them. We
Speaker 2: do have one more thing to cover, like we always do.
Speaker 3: We've got what is coming out next week in case
Speaker 3: you happen to have.
Speaker 2: Forgotten, and so we are leading with Night of the
Speaker 2: Creeps four K from Scream Factory. Zoom out here just
Speaker 2: a little bit. The Brutalist four K from a twenty
Speaker 2: four Night Moves four K from Criterion One that I'm
Speaker 2: looking very much forward to, Tommy Boy four K from
Speaker 2: the Studio, Don't Torture a Duckling four K from Arrow,
Speaker 2: Black Sheep four K from Keno themselves, Baby Girl four
Speaker 2: K from A twenty four. All of the OCN stuff
Speaker 2: for the month of March is going to be here,
Speaker 2: but nothing that is brand new announcements, necessarily the Glass
Speaker 2: Web three D from Keno. Also this week, Star Trek
Speaker 2: Lower Decks the complete series. Shaw Brothers Cloud six is
Speaker 2: continuing down their line with these excellent box sets. Have
Speaker 2: you got any of those Shop brother sets yet?
Speaker 4: Yeah? The Shout Which one is this one? Volume six?
Speaker 3: This is Volume five or six? One of the two
Speaker 3: I've got.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've got four at home. I've got them all.
Speaker 3: They're just so expensive, but they're so great.
Speaker 4: So damn expensive. But like yeah, and I don't mean
Speaker 4: to always shit on Shout Factory because I'm happy that
Speaker 4: they're putting these out, but like I think they're using
Speaker 4: I think in their brain like commentary means like we
Speaker 4: did a good job on special features. And I know
Speaker 4: I'm being super nitpicky, so forgive me. I'm very happy
Speaker 4: they have commentaries, but what they did for these releases
Speaker 4: is they would get like two people and just have
Speaker 4: them alternate on commentaries for the whole set. And they
Speaker 4: did that, I think in the in lieu of like
Speaker 4: a lot of interesting behind the scenes stuff. So I'm
Speaker 4: just hoping that I haven't listened to the commentary yet.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they got the right people, and maybe they're amazing.
Speaker 4: I just hope that they are, because I think they
Speaker 4: didn't necessarily, like what vinegar Syndrome or Severn or Mondo does.
Speaker 4: They really give like the context for the film, and
Speaker 4: they get people involved and you know, all this stuff.
Speaker 4: And I don't think Shaw is not really I mean
Speaker 4: shot Factors not really doing that. They're just they're putting
Speaker 4: the commentaries on there. So I hope at least the
Speaker 4: commentaries do that.
Speaker 2: They are doing some of that, just not as much
Speaker 2: as they should be, I would agree. But your your
Speaker 2: boy Frank Jane is on a lot of them, so
Speaker 2: that's a good thing.
Speaker 4: Not as much as I would hope. Maybe this is
Speaker 4: just me my way of saying I wish he was
Speaker 4: on more.
Speaker 3: I completely understand that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, no, but I wish I mean, but the
Speaker 4: people could be great. Honestly, Like I just and I
Speaker 4: saw it and I was like, man, there's like so
Speaker 4: much to say about Shaw Brothers. I wish there's a
Speaker 4: little bit more.
Speaker 2: Well, they still have like eight hundred and fourteen titles
Speaker 2: they can release, So we'll see you. No Warner Archive
Speaker 2: next week, Magilla Gorilla, the Complete series, The Four Horsemen
Speaker 2: of the Apocalypse. Yeah, the Radiance release of the Eel
Speaker 2: Diary of a Chambermaid from Keno, Ceadie McKee from Warner Archive.
Speaker 2: We got Suddenly in the Dark shipping fairly soon from TerrorVision.
Speaker 2: I don't think it'll.
Speaker 3: Be next week.
Speaker 2: I think it'll be shortly after that. Hit Man from
Speaker 2: Warner Archive. Earth two from Wurner Archive, the Tenth Victim
Speaker 2: from Keno, and some standard editions from Arrow. The Lady
Speaker 2: is the Boss from eighty eight Films. Memoir of a
Speaker 2: Snails coming out in a single feature release or a
Speaker 2: double feature release if you want, Mary Max, which is
Speaker 2: also an incredible film. Hijack Highway from Keno getting its
Speaker 2: release next week. Monogram Mattinee Volume one from Warner Archive.
Speaker 2: Curious to see how they take that in the future.
Speaker 2: Hong Kong, Hong Kong from eighty eight films, An Amorous
Speaker 2: Woman of the Tang Dynasty from eighty eight films as well,
Speaker 2: Bobby Joe and the Outlaw from Keno Larber. They've got
Speaker 2: a couple others Dance or Die coming from Terror Vision
Speaker 2: the next couple weeks, Gushing Prayer as well. Revenge of
Speaker 2: the Radioactive Reporter is shipping now and I think that's
Speaker 2: it for the most part. And Custody the proprietor from
Speaker 2: Cohen Media. Any of these you got pre ordered or
Speaker 2: excited about here soon, sir?
Speaker 4: I mean, wait, did you just pass Her Body as
Speaker 4: coming out in March twenty.
Speaker 3: Fifth, it's the standard release, Okay.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, Her Body's cool, that's a good one.
Speaker 4: And Delicatessen, I would say if anybody hasn't seen Delicatessen
Speaker 4: for the third time tonight, I'll say, if you have
Speaker 4: even a slight interest in surrealism, no, you know what
Speaker 4: Delicate Testin is. To tie it into tonight, it's a
Speaker 4: movie that reminds me the most of Brazil of any
Speaker 4: movie I've ever seen. Like, if you're a fan of
Speaker 4: Brazil and you haven't seen Delicatessen, fixed that because you'll
Speaker 4: love it, but no, I'm I looked at my what
Speaker 4: I spent on movies in twenty twenty four. I made
Speaker 4: the mistake of like breaking that out, and so I'm
Speaker 4: in a little bit of a slow down on purchases.
Speaker 4: I'm the Vendo of your syndrome. Stuff I'm going to buy,
Speaker 4: and like I'm really really focusing on like must haves,
Speaker 4: so you know, like the Hannohas set comes up and
Speaker 4: two months worth of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Hanneka box is crazy. I know a lot
Speaker 2: of people that went pretty nuts today getting that immediately.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure that's going to be a big thing
Speaker 2: for like we hang up.
Speaker 4: I'm going to get it to make sure I don't
Speaker 4: miss it, because I can't imagine what the aftermarket prices
Speaker 4: are going to be on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a great question.
Speaker 2: When it's already expensive and coming from a company that
Speaker 2: you know, the shipping threshold is lower than the box set,
Speaker 2: so it's already free shipping.
Speaker 3: That that's a that's a pretty big sign.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I just I forgot to
Speaker 4: mention this earlier by total coincidence. So there's a guy
Speaker 4: on Reddit named Tim and he's, uh, he watches like
Speaker 4: twelve hundred movies a year or something. He's just like
Speaker 4: always watching movies. And we started connecting on Reddit, another
Speaker 4: Reddit connection, and so once a year we do a
Speaker 4: director series. We've done it a few years in a row.
Speaker 4: This year we're going through Michelle Hanica and I thought
Speaker 4: it was interesting. We've been We're three movies in. It's
Speaker 4: my fault that we're not deeper in. We started in
Speaker 4: December and I've been busy at work, but it's really
Speaker 4: hard to find his early stuff. So one of the
Speaker 4: things I'm most excited about of the early TV releases
Speaker 4: they put on there, because those were both on really
Speaker 4: really bad prints on YouTube right now. So if you
Speaker 4: go on Reddit, you can find and the boutique Blu
Speaker 4: Ray thing. I've there's two or possibly three movies from
Speaker 4: Michell Hanka that are on there, and over the course
Speaker 4: of the year we'll finish them all. So the timing
Speaker 4: of this boxet was like too good. I was like,
Speaker 4: wait really, because I bought all these random DVDs and
Speaker 4: Blu rays and stuff that's.
Speaker 3: Kind of out. Yeah, yeah, well that's perfect.
Speaker 2: So tonight we are discussing Vineger Syndrome. We're going to
Speaker 2: be discussed seeing the sub label specifically, not just the
Speaker 2: regular vinegar syndrome line. We're gonna be comparing them, trying
Speaker 2: to define what they are specifically. These ones listed here,
Speaker 2: we've got Vinegar Syndrome Archive, Vinegar Syndrome Labs, Vinegar Syndrome Pictures,
Speaker 2: Vinegar Syndrome Ultra Cinematograph.
Speaker 3: And de Gousser Video. Destrip Picks is sort of its.
Speaker 2: Own thing over on a Miliu scene, and they got
Speaker 2: it listed here because they list a couple of them,
Speaker 2: but really there are one to three, four or five, six, yes,
Speaker 2: six sub labels that fall under vinegar Syndrome. So we're
Speaker 2: gonna be breaking those down, defining what they are talking about,
Speaker 2: some titles in each line, and then at the end
Speaker 2: ranking our favorites in order of the six lines.
Speaker 3: To go with Chris's podcast.
Speaker 2: It's a really fun conversation, I think, because you get
Speaker 2: to hear them covering all these unpunk vacations. Go check
Speaker 2: out that show if you haven't, it's perfect.
Speaker 3: So let's get into this.
Speaker 2: Our first one up, which we probably should go in
Speaker 2: reverse order to end with the most controversial one. Let's
Speaker 2: talk about Degausser Video. So this is the line you
Speaker 2: can see here on the screen and all zoom in
Speaker 2: so you can read it. Degaser Video is a brand
Speaker 2: new label created by several of the devious minds behind VS,
Speaker 2: which will bring to Blu Ray deluxe editions of both
Speaker 2: canonical and underseen shot on video genre cinema, in addition
Speaker 2: to workshot on film but edited on tape wherein the
Speaker 2: original film materials are believed to be lost or destroyed.
Speaker 2: Similar to Vinegger syndromes focused on film preservation, Degauser will
Speaker 2: work only from original analog tape materials, with an emphasis
Speaker 2: on maintaining the aesthetics inherent to each respective video format. Additionally,
Speaker 2: each title released by Degaser will be made available in
Speaker 2: an ultralimited new VHS edition fitted in a custom designed
Speaker 2: hardshell light box, which I don't have any of, so
Speaker 2: I can't speak on the firsthand knowledge of those, but
Speaker 2: they are pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: To say the least.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: So let's talk about the Gausser Uh, what are some
Speaker 2: of your favorite titles that have come out on this line.
Speaker 4: I know it's super controversial, but their transfer off if
Speaker 4: we take all the business practices aside. Their transfer of
Speaker 4: Cannibal is awesome and the release of Cannibal the Musical
Speaker 4: is awesome. And I do want to give love to
Speaker 4: the work they did on that film because that well,
Speaker 4: I should say movie, because the whole point is just
Speaker 4: not shot on film, right, So that movie it's really
Speaker 4: really good and they gave it so much love and
Speaker 4: that makes me happy because Cannibal is a great fun movie.
Speaker 4: The they have the VHS of Divinity that's showing there.
Speaker 4: It's not really like a Degausser title because it's put up,
Speaker 4: but but if you haven't seen Divinity, check it out.
Speaker 4: It's really really good and interesting. Yeah, Redneck Zombies is amazing.
Speaker 4: They're they're killing it recently. Like Ice is interesting because
Speaker 4: the whole thing is has got a very particular like
Speaker 4: the way they shoot and frame. They actually kind of
Speaker 4: put but it looks like a ski mask that's broken
Speaker 4: in the middle and it has shards of glass up
Speaker 4: top in the bottom, but it looks like they attach
Speaker 4: it to the camera when they shoot, because it actually
Speaker 4: is like a POV through the lens of like a
Speaker 4: ski mask, So it's like a POV slasher.
Speaker 3: Kind of thing.
Speaker 4: It's interesting, it's it's cool, it's it's really uh. I
Speaker 4: liked it a lot actually. And then there's two No, No,
Speaker 4: No One, and it's from a director that only made
Speaker 4: three movies, and the name of the director is escaping
Speaker 4: me for a second, but blood coat that guy. He
Speaker 4: only made like two or three movies. It's interesting that
Speaker 4: they and they all have come out through like a
Speaker 4: Vineverse syndrome, some part of Vineger syndrome universe, but they
Speaker 4: haven't come out through the same one. And then Herencia
Speaker 4: the Obolika is kind of it's just a really fucked
Speaker 4: up movie. You know, it's super inappropriate on like multiple
Speaker 4: levels and is horribly offensive, but it's kind of.
Speaker 3: Fun funny enough.
Speaker 2: That's the one that I was going to say is
Speaker 2: my favorite from this line so far. I think it's
Speaker 2: a really incredible it's it's essentially Mexican child's play, and
Speaker 2: it's it's I won't say it's super well done, but
Speaker 2: it is very fun to watch. The biggest thing to
Speaker 2: point out here is most of these look pretty atrocious,
Speaker 2: and they they say at the top here that they
Speaker 2: are trying to maintain the aesthetics inherent to each respective
Speaker 2: video format. That being said, the thing here that really
Speaker 2: kind of pisss me off is like these are coming
Speaker 2: out brand new limited editions, like Iced was twenty nine
Speaker 2: ninety nine for a pretty poor looking blu ray of
Speaker 2: that title with not a lot of special features. To me,
Speaker 2: it feels like it should have been significantly cheaper than
Speaker 2: twenty nine ninety nine.
Speaker 4: It's selling out, right, Like, I'm not defending it. It's
Speaker 4: interesting though, right.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like for them, they're not being the free market
Speaker 4: is not telling them to reduce their prices. It's telling
Speaker 4: them to keep pushing it because all these the gauster
Speaker 4: is the limited editions recently have been selling out pretty fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and again nothing against it, more power to them, whatever,
Speaker 2: But I to me, I feel like, especially for Iced,
Speaker 2: because it's a title that a lot of people have
Speaker 2: wanted for a long time, kind of took advantage of
Speaker 2: the consumer market on that one a little bit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, totally. I mean to put it in perspective,
Speaker 4: espacial Is only has two thousand title or copies in
Speaker 4: the limited edition and they've only sold nine hundred, right,
Speaker 4: And like that movie has been out almost a month already,
Speaker 4: Like it was really it was announced in early March, right,
Speaker 4: So I do think it's titled by title.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Cannibal to the Musical does not look
Speaker 2: bad necessarily, it's it's as good as that movie's ever looked.
Speaker 2: And honestly, these all probably look about as good as
Speaker 2: they they've ever looked, or the best that they've ever looked.
Speaker 2: But with something like iced, it genuinely looks really bad.
Speaker 2: It looks like a borderline YouTube rip of the film.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean there's really no defense for it.
Speaker 4: They they kind of they built they you know, they
Speaker 4: warned you so to speak right, and they they are
Speaker 4: true to their to their word on that.
Speaker 3: Exactly. So I mean you can't really fault them for it.
Speaker 4: But Amanda ray Is that commentary from Amanda rays is
Speaker 4: awesome and Amanda Rayas is awesome.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Next up Cinematograph. Now, this one is an interesting one.
Speaker 2: It is curated primarily by Justin lit Liberty. It takes
Speaker 2: its name because a lot of people don't understand this
Speaker 2: and ask why it sounds so French. It takes its
Speaker 2: name from the Lumire Brothers invention of the same name.
Speaker 2: Cinematograph is a new sub label from Vinegar syndrome that
Speaker 2: seeks to fill gaps in the canon of American cinema.
Speaker 2: Offering a mix of a tour driven studio films produced
Speaker 2: during the New Hollywood era of the late sixties and
Speaker 2: seventies all the way through the indie boom of the
Speaker 2: eighties and nineties, Cinematograph will explore the wide breadth of
Speaker 2: American movie making, spanning numerous genres and scales of production.
Speaker 2: Curated and produced by Justin Liberty, each limited edition release
Speaker 2: will be housed in a specially designed cloth bound media
Speaker 2: book with embossed foil titles, custom molded disc trays, accompanied
Speaker 2: by a slipcase featuring newly commissioned art in an individually
Speaker 2: number J card. So this one is definitely gonna be
Speaker 2: an interesting topic for a lot of people in the chat,
Speaker 2: because I know a lot of people absolutely hate the
Speaker 2: design of the media books. They don't want to see
Speaker 2: releases like that. I've also seen a lot of people
Speaker 2: say that they think the films in this line are terrible,
Speaker 2: and that one I don't agree with. I think that
Speaker 2: they've done a lot of really great titles. What do
Speaker 2: you think about Cinematograph as a whole so far?
Speaker 4: Okay, So the design of the packaging is a little
Speaker 4: bit like having a cracker on a cracker, It's true. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Like do you need like media book with a slipcover
Speaker 4: with the case and with the thing and with the
Speaker 4: string and like I don't know, like what do they
Speaker 4: have slipcoverton No, they don't have slipcovers because they look
Speaker 4: like a book, right, So it looks like a book
Speaker 4: and it's like the Chase the Black Book. Yeah, so
Speaker 4: does it need all that stuff? Probably not? Like is
Speaker 4: this you know, the liberty like having a free reign
Speaker 4: in the toy store and getting to like create something
Speaker 4: beautiful that he like he wants to see on his shelf. Like, yes,
Speaker 4: I don't mind it. I do Like I have them
Speaker 4: all and like they're lined up and it looks it
Speaker 4: looked they look nice together. Yeah, it's probably a little overkilled.
Speaker 4: That's that's that's fair. But the movies are I mean,
Speaker 4: like there was something. There's a wide range of movies
Speaker 4: in this. There's some that I like, but like Shanks,
Speaker 4: like joy Ride, like these Going South like these are
Speaker 4: these are great movies? Like these are I mean I'm
Speaker 4: unable Ferrara fans, So like Dangerous Game for me was great.
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't like it as much, but
Speaker 4: like Red Rock West, even Little Darlings, they came out
Speaker 4: of the like like there was some slam dunk, like
Speaker 4: just classic movies in this that Criterion could easily put out.
Speaker 4: There was the knock on them in the beginning that
Speaker 4: it's like that as soon as Fun City Editions left,
Speaker 4: like Cinematgraph started and like it was, you know, they're
Speaker 4: kind of like cannibalizing that label. I don't know, like
Speaker 4: that's that's possible again, that's more of like a like
Speaker 4: a business practice thing just strictly on like what's coming
Speaker 4: out and the releases and stuff. I love it, Like
Speaker 4: I think the Liberty's taste aligns with mine more than not.
Speaker 4: I think the Last Embrace is terrible and like because
Speaker 4: that's up there on the screen right now. There there
Speaker 4: are some bad movies in the line. But like you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, based on the conversation tonight,
Speaker 4: God for bidy ilc my curated list of stuff that comes.
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, I mean the note about Fun City leaving
Speaker 2: and their style being cannibalized is an interesting one, especially
Speaker 2: after we just talked about Degausser. I mean, you can
Speaker 2: make the same argument that a couple labels started doing
Speaker 2: shot on video on Blu Ray and they liked they
Speaker 2: proved that people would be willing to buy them on
Speaker 2: Blu Ray, and vsaid, well, all right, let's jump in.
Speaker 3: I don't know that that, but it very well could be.
Speaker 2: With this line, I get the style for a lot
Speaker 2: of them. I will say one thing, This is probably
Speaker 2: the most the line with the highest highs for art
Speaker 2: but also the lowest lows for art. For me, like
Speaker 2: the cover of Little Darlings, I think we all kind
Speaker 2: of agreed is not great because they couldn't get likeness rights.
Speaker 2: But I think the choice to do like the the
Speaker 2: coffee splatter or whatever it is, just did not look
Speaker 2: great with that film. But something like Who Killed Teddy
Speaker 2: Bear the cover of this one is genuinely incredible. I
Speaker 2: think the film choice here is really interesting. I mean,
Speaker 2: going all the way from Go Fish to Shanks within
Speaker 2: a matter of a month or two, is that that
Speaker 2: is pure range. I mean William Castle for our John
Speaker 2: Dahl like the direct that you've chosen in this line
Speaker 2: is very interesting at least, But I understand for a
Speaker 2: lot of people that the taste don't necessarily align, but
Speaker 2: I don't know, there's some really interesting choices in this.
Speaker 4: Bang the Drum Slowly is one that I would say,
Speaker 4: if you're trying to show a sports movie to somebody
Speaker 4: that doesn't like sports. Bang the Drum Slowly is the
Speaker 4: perfect film because it's like a it's really more of
Speaker 4: a story about a friend who's doing everything in his
Speaker 4: power to help another friend, and it's a super sweet
Speaker 4: movie and like it's really good and it happens to
Speaker 4: be about baseball. Yeah, I mean guilty, you know, funny enough.
Speaker 4: I don't hate Hitchcock, Yeah, hilarious. I defend Hitchcock a lot.
Speaker 4: And there's a book where Traffaux interviews Hitchcock, and I
Speaker 4: think it's literally just called Hitchcock Trufo. But it's one
Speaker 4: of the best film books ever made because Hitchcock is
Speaker 4: an actual genius and Triffau is like a super fanboy
Speaker 4: who also is super talented as just a creative person
Speaker 4: and like asked interesting questions and so like, if you
Speaker 4: don't if you're interested in a film book, they there's
Speaker 4: a video of it somewhere. But there's also a book
Speaker 4: that came out of those two interviewing each other. It's
Speaker 4: one of the best things about film I've ever read.
Speaker 4: I'm cool with Hitchcock. I think he's a little bit overrated.
Speaker 4: I will say that I think people like just I
Speaker 4: don't know, like he's good, but I don't know if
Speaker 4: he's like Hitchcock. So that's my official position on Hitchcock
Speaker 4: since it's come up a few times. There are some
Speaker 4: movies like the one on the Train. Oh sorry, I
Speaker 4: can't remember it now. It's like amazing, Stranger on the Train.
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no no, it's it's the
Speaker 4: one about It's the one about where they anyways, whatever,
Speaker 4: this is not a good live show. There's a few
Speaker 4: I'll look up his films and there's like a few
Speaker 4: that are incredible. Thirty nine Steps is amazing, Lady Vanishes
Speaker 4: is amazing, Rebecca's amazing. Like, there's some really really great stuff.
Speaker 4: I just don't vibe with Verdigo because I think the
Speaker 4: character is a dick.
Speaker 2: I mean that there's so many funny comments. Yeah, and Hitchcock,
Speaker 2: I believe is kb's favorite director, so he's probably probably
Speaker 2: a little bit frustrated at the moment. All right, So
Speaker 2: that was cinematograph. Go into our next one. This is
Speaker 2: the big Boy VSU Vinegar Syndrome ultra.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a good point, Craig, Sorry, got me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: If you look at every movie where the main character
Speaker 4: is that Dick, I guess it's not really fair to
Speaker 4: say that it is.
Speaker 3: Sorry, what are you.
Speaker 2: Saying, Vinigerson, Amaltro. We've got eleven titles in total. We've
Speaker 2: got The Beast, Master, Stick String, Samurai, Kloakindagger, Roadhouse, Sidekicks,
Speaker 2: show Girls, Daryl, Southern Comfort, Navy Seals, Congo, and Virtuosity,
Speaker 2: and they're right up at the top of these. It
Speaker 2: says VSU is a vinegar syndrome sub label focused exclusively
Speaker 2: on I love this word choice here extravagant UHD Blu
Speaker 2: Ray releases of major eighties and nineties titles that might
Speaker 2: not always fit into the regular VS.
Speaker 3: Milieu.
Speaker 2: So these are giant boxes that are overly designed with
Speaker 2: magnets and a fancy ribbon to pull out everything. It's
Speaker 2: got the four K and Blu ray. It's always four K,
Speaker 2: always pretty big titles. It's got a big bolt, and
Speaker 2: it takes up a lot of space on your shelf.
Speaker 2: Genuinely huge titles here. I mean we're talking Chuck Norris,
Speaker 2: Patrick Swayzee, Cloak and Dagger, big one from a lot
Speaker 2: of people's childhoods. Beast Master the same, Showgirls is huge,
Speaker 2: Southern Comfort is a massive one. Navy Seals was referenced
Speaker 2: in Clerk's Congo. Pretty big title for a lot of people.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about the VSUS here, Chris?
Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting now that all of the lines
Speaker 4: are getting up or most of the lines are getting
Speaker 4: up to like twelve fifteen releases. One interesting thing I
Speaker 4: will say about most of the lions is that none
Speaker 4: of them really follow like a true pattern. Like if
Speaker 4: you look at VSU, it's easy to say it's like
Speaker 4: big Hollywood movies that are that they're getting access to. Right,
Speaker 4: That's the comment I was laughing about a second. But like,
Speaker 4: you know, Daryl doesn't fit in that category. It's like
Speaker 4: it's like big Hollywood movies and also family movies.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hollywood and children's films.
Speaker 4: Yeah they like right and the Girls, Yeah totally.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: Sidekicks and Showgirls next to each other is funny to see.
Speaker 2: Well, look at the three in a row, Sidekicks, show Girls, Daryl.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, so Paul that totally like Roadhouse is incredible
Speaker 4: and like I'm all buy I'll defense six String Samurai
Speaker 4: to anybody. That movie is great, and like The Beast
Speaker 4: Masters super fun. Southern Comfort is like super underrated, Like
Speaker 4: definitely watch go watch Southern Comfort if you haven't. But yeah,
Speaker 4: like even Virtuosity is super fun. I just there's not
Speaker 4: like there's not really like a way to define vs
Speaker 4: U I guess, other than just saying it's like movies
Speaker 4: that you know, if most of the stuff we talk
Speaker 4: about with Vinniver Syndrome, someone at work would not have
Speaker 4: heard of the movie I'm talking about, and like this
Speaker 4: is the line where like there's a good chance that
Speaker 4: people at work have heard about it.
Speaker 2: So this line is are arguably one of the more
Speaker 2: popular ones from Niger Syndrome, first of all, and it's
Speaker 2: it's literally because they are studio titles that they're gonna
Speaker 2: sell well. But the big thing here is, and I
Speaker 2: think Anthony or somebody said it, maybe it was Siminar,
Speaker 2: the big thing here is this feels like it's made
Speaker 2: for people that collect packaging. And I'm not to take
Speaker 2: away from these films because stuff like beast Master is
Speaker 2: fun at least, Cloak and Dagger is a really great movie.
Speaker 2: Roadhouse is borderline perfection. Totally get that Showgirls is great,
Speaker 2: but I like I got nothing against Darryl didn't need
Speaker 2: a giant four K hard box magnet release.
Speaker 3: Probably not.
Speaker 2: And to fit that in between, like we just said,
Speaker 2: where does Daryl fit in between Southern Comfort and Showgirls?
Speaker 2: That is such a weird like line that they're together.
Speaker 2: I truly do love some of these releases, and I
Speaker 2: do think some of them are deserving of it. Like
Speaker 2: Cloak and Dagger probably deserved this massive release because that
Speaker 2: was a genre defining, major childhood film from a lot
Speaker 2: of people.
Speaker 3: Darryl was not.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry Darryl fell below that Showgirls probably deserving of
Speaker 2: something like that. Navy Seals probably not. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: a weird one.
Speaker 4: Like Navy Seals could have easily been an MVD rewind title, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: so to think of that like contrast, right. But I
Speaker 4: have a theory about VSU, and this is why I'm
Speaker 4: glad the podcast is the unofficial Vinegar Syndrome podcast. I
Speaker 4: think that there is they have private equity came through
Speaker 4: for them, right, that's public knowledge like that's not so
Speaker 4: they part of the reason they're now investing in like
Speaker 4: making movies and like they're getting bigger titles is because
Speaker 4: they had a round of private equity come through for them.
Speaker 4: I think this line is one of the things it's for,
Speaker 4: not the only thing, but one of the things it's
Speaker 4: for is to raise the prices up a little bit,
Speaker 4: because if you buy a sixty dollars VSU, then like
Speaker 4: a thirty five dollars movie sounds better. And I think
Speaker 4: it's like a I think it's almost like a them
Speaker 4: sort of figuring out where the market is. It feels
Speaker 4: more of like the move that a Wall Street somebody
Speaker 4: from like Wall Street would do to kind of understand
Speaker 4: like how much are people like us hobbyists willing to
Speaker 4: actually pay for this stuff? And I don't know they
Speaker 4: they I think it's my fault. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't mean to take credit for it, but I
Speaker 4: was like very open about the fact that you could
Speaker 4: check their inventory account and then they fixed it so
Speaker 4: you can't check it anymore. So I don't know if
Speaker 4: it's me, but I think that enough people maybe we're
Speaker 4: talking about it, But I.
Speaker 2: Don't know how you know the answer to that one. Actually,
Speaker 2: but you what, I think we know the answer to
Speaker 2: that one, but I won't say it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's But I don't know
Speaker 4: how these are selling though, which is an interesting thing.
Speaker 4: I mean, I know, are any of the VSU sold out?
Speaker 4: Forgive me if they are?
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: I believe Master's probably sold out.
Speaker 2: Christmaster sold out pretty quickly and got a standard after that.
Speaker 3: I believe I believe the.
Speaker 4: Beastmaster has a limited edition. Oh wait, hold on, Oh okay,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, the box sold out, but the slipcover is
Speaker 4: still there.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I believe all the ones that are under forty dollars
Speaker 2: have sold out when we look at the prices here.
Speaker 2: So Cloak and Dagger, Roadhouse, Showgirls, Beast Master, Southern Comfort,
Speaker 2: I believe are all the ones that have sold out
Speaker 2: the limited titles, which is great and honestly, this line
Speaker 2: itself probably pays for like most of the acquisitions for
Speaker 2: the year for Vinegar Syndrome.
Speaker 4: Literally, Okay, Beast Cloak, road Showgirls, and Southern Combers sold out. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 4: but that what you just said I think is important
Speaker 4: because they they do need to have movies like the
Speaker 4: keep that just fund the ability to put out bloodshacks, right,
Speaker 4: So I don't I don't mind that they're doing this.
Speaker 4: And other than Congo, which I mean, Congo's fine, it's cute,
Speaker 4: but it's not necessarily anything like amazing about it. Other
Speaker 4: than that this line, all these movies are at least fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only one that Okay, let's let's completely completely
Speaker 2: break it down here for a minute. Six Strings Samurai
Speaker 2: is a wild choice for a BSU. That's I'm not
Speaker 2: saying it's a bad movie, even though it kind of is.
Speaker 2: I think it sticks out like a sore thumb here
Speaker 2: because it really is the only one that was not
Speaker 2: like a huge studio title. It was not a title
Speaker 2: that had a giant fan base like some of these others.
Speaker 2: It is a really odd choice, and especially to have
Speaker 2: it be your second one on this line.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but even like maybe they were testing here, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to defend it. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 4: my guess is they knew they had Roadhouse coming. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and they put a few titles before Roadhouse because they
Speaker 4: knew that would be like, would sell like crazy and
Speaker 4: then get people to look backwards. I can't remember if
Speaker 4: Cloak and Daggers sold out before Roadhouse did, but maybe
Speaker 4: it did. I can't remember, but.
Speaker 3: I remember I remember it did pretty quickly.
Speaker 4: I mean people have been excited about But that's the thing.
Speaker 4: Sixteenth Summer has a big fan base, yeah, and a
Speaker 4: loud fan base. It's just looking at the rest of
Speaker 4: the line, it stands out.
Speaker 3: For sure, Sivenar, What does this mean?
Speaker 2: New York Ninja technically got a VSU released, but was
Speaker 2: a VSP Are you just saying it had the same
Speaker 2: packaging because it was never a VSU because it's a
Speaker 2: it's not a four K, it's not a I bet he's.
Speaker 4: Talking about the packaging because it does have that like
Speaker 4: like magnet.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not technically a VSU. It's just they you
Speaker 2: just use the same packaging and that's because they went
Speaker 2: all out with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Speaking of VSP though, let's get into vinegar syndrome pictures.
Speaker 2: So this is the line they don't define it at
Speaker 2: the top of the page here, but this is the
Speaker 2: line where they have at least a hand in the
Speaker 2: production somehow. So they're putting money into some of these
Speaker 2: and doing what they can to produce it. Most of these,
Speaker 2: Vinegar Syndrome will do some sort of theatrical run with it.
Speaker 2: And this is a wild all over the placeline as well.
Speaker 2: And so far we only got nine. We've got Censor,
Speaker 2: New York Ninja, The Scary of sixty First, Sick of Myself, Divinity,
Speaker 2: Riddle of Fire, Eight Eyes, Black Eyed.
Speaker 3: Susan, and Street Trash.
Speaker 2: Now this is a wild line because there's a couple
Speaker 2: of titles on here that are pretty great and a
Speaker 2: bunch of titles that I think are some of the
Speaker 2: worst titles on the entire label.
Speaker 4: Are you gonna highlight that comment?
Speaker 2: Oh happily, Yeah, only.
Speaker 3: Because I believe I know who this is.
Speaker 2: How are you guys having a VS discussion without the
Speaker 2: mid level dude, he's apparently an authority of VS. Well,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that later off here. So, out of
Speaker 2: all these titles, did you have a clear favorite on these?
Speaker 4: Sick of Myself is must watch in my opinion. New
Speaker 4: York Ninja is like super fun. I think it's a
Speaker 4: very very fun movie.
Speaker 2: It's also like a quintessential. You have to watch. This
Speaker 2: is what Vinegar Syndrome did to it title.
Speaker 4: Totally and it's super fun. Divinity I seem to like
Speaker 4: Divinity more than other people. I think Divinity is fucking awesome,
Speaker 4: especially because the directors it starts off as this, like
Speaker 4: you're it's just like, is this going to be a porno?
Speaker 4: Like it starts off with like this crazy kind of
Speaker 4: like sex beginning and this like and then it turns
Speaker 4: into this massive epic sci fi battle with like stop
Speaker 4: motion clay motion, and like it takes it into like
Speaker 4: a whole like it just it does. It's a very
Speaker 4: creative movie, Eddie, Eddie something. Can't remember the director's name
Speaker 4: off the top of my head, but like when that
Speaker 4: if that guy gets a screenwriter, like he's gonna go
Speaker 4: wherever he wants to because it's the script's a little
Speaker 4: bit messy, but like, visually that movie is just amazing.
Speaker 2: I think Divinity is one of two on here I
Speaker 2: have yet to see, but I love the way you're
Speaker 2: selling it.
Speaker 4: It's really really good. Keith. That's interesting you talk about
Speaker 4: Scary of Sixties, So Scary of sixty first is h
Speaker 4: like like Possession on timomuh, just in the sense that
Speaker 4: like they took the chaos of Possession and like it's
Speaker 4: just a very loud movie it's like, uh and very frenetic.
Speaker 4: I actually liked it too. I'm not selling it well,
Speaker 4: but like it's like it's it's trying to sort of
Speaker 4: be possession and it's got an interesting tie into what's
Speaker 4: the Kubrick movie with Tom Cruise sorry, just blanking and nicocmon.
Speaker 2: Well, and not only a tie in, like they call
Speaker 2: it as like being in the same universe.
Speaker 3: That's the crazy part.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And they tie it in at some point and
Speaker 4: they make it's a very political movie. It's good. I
Speaker 4: am a Scooter McCrae stan Eyes, why said thank you?
Speaker 4: I'm a scooter McCrae stan So. I think Black Eyed
Speaker 4: Susan is wonderful.
Speaker 3: I'd say the one to see so good.
Speaker 4: Very dark, like if you all have seen Scooter stuff,
Speaker 4: like he's willing to go there, and this is another
Speaker 4: movie where like he goes there. But it's really really
Speaker 4: interesting topic and he's a little bit of like a
Speaker 4: street philosopher type, Like he's the kind of guy that
Speaker 4: if you went like sitting around twenty years old playing
Speaker 4: video games and like theorizing about life and being like, yeah,
Speaker 4: what if you took a sex doll, Like could you
Speaker 4: beat the shit out of the sex doll and like,
Speaker 4: would that be considered abuse or no? And he's like,
Speaker 4: wait a minute, that's a movie. And then he goes
Speaker 4: and makes Black Eyed Susan and he brings in like
Speaker 4: a bunch of really interesting discussion around, like basically that idea,
Speaker 4: and then he goes even darker at the end, but
Speaker 4: he does it in a very intelligent way. I love
Speaker 4: Schooner mcray and then Street Trash. I seem to like
Speaker 4: it more than other people. I think it's really fun.
Speaker 4: It feels like an exploitation movie, honestly, and and I think, well,
Speaker 4: I mean it's a South African movie, right, so in
Speaker 4: South Africa, made by South Africans, and I don't know,
Speaker 4: I think it has a similar vibe. But Ryan Krueger
Speaker 4: is we're scheduling now hopefully he's going to be a
Speaker 4: guest on Punk Vacation in the Future NICs. But I honestly,
Speaker 4: regardless of that fact, I honestly think this movie is
Speaker 4: super fun.
Speaker 2: So real quick for me, I thought censor was okay, decent.
Speaker 2: I like the bonus features more than the movie on
Speaker 2: this one. I think New York Ninja it's quintessential it's
Speaker 2: pretty good, but it's not.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 2: It's pretty fun, but it's not a good movie period.
Speaker 2: The Scary of sixty First is awful. It is god awful,
Speaker 2: terrible piece of shit filmmaking. It is not worth anybody's time.
Speaker 2: Sick of Myself is great, genuinely really good. Riddle of
Speaker 2: Fire genuinely really good. Eight Eyes god awful. Nobody needs
Speaker 2: to watch this movie. H eight Eyes is atrocious. The
Speaker 2: movie is nothing. Street Trash one of the worst movies
Speaker 2: I've seen probably in the last ten years.
Speaker 4: Not even your take is more common. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I thought it was fun, though they had ideas on
Speaker 2: how to do a couple special effects and said, let's
Speaker 2: not tell a story around it, let's just be pure shit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4: I can't argue with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is This has possibility for some cool things
Speaker 2: in the future if they lean into stuff like Riddle
Speaker 2: of Fire and not into like like it's I think
Speaker 2: it's obviously from a marketing standpoint, it's smart to put
Speaker 2: money into a Street Trash remake because ooh, all of
Speaker 2: our fans of Vinegar Syndrome loves Street Trash, They'll love
Speaker 2: a remake.
Speaker 3: Put it into better movies. This movie is god awful.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think history is going to be more kind to
Speaker 4: Street Charts.
Speaker 2: That's a sentence I don't think anybody has ever said ever,
Speaker 2: And even including the original, I like.
Speaker 4: The remake of Funny Games more than the remake of
Speaker 4: Street Charts. I'll give it that.
Speaker 2: That's an easy bar to go over. The next one,
Speaker 2: this is how do they explain it here? So VSL
Speaker 2: is the VS sub label that they are going to
Speaker 2: be expanding and defying expectations with a diversity of films
Speaker 2: that they restore and release. As the name implies, VSL,
Speaker 2: which stands for Vinegar Syndrome Labs, will serve as a
Speaker 2: kind of testing area for releasing genres and eras of
Speaker 2: film one might not immediately expect to come from VS.
Speaker 2: The ultimate objective of VSL will be to see if
Speaker 2: these types of films will find an audience and if so,
Speaker 2: pursue and release more of them, and even if not,
Speaker 2: it still serves as a means of restore or more
Speaker 2: of the weird, rare and unusual movies you might not
Speaker 2: expect from VS. So this is a very odd line. Again,
Speaker 2: They've not put out a ton of stuff. We've got Caruku,
Speaker 2: Beast of the Amazon, Flesh and Fantasy, The Cat Creeps,
Speaker 2: Peter Sulkin's Apocalypse, Tetrology, Guesthouse, Paradiso, The Films of Enrique Gomez,
Speaker 2: Vidio Sex Mission, Five Card Studs, Story of a Junkie,
Speaker 2: Paganini Interrogation, Bloodline, Neither the Sea nor the Sand, The Terrornauts,
Speaker 2: The Mansion of Madness, and then, most recently, Peter Greenway's
Speaker 2: The Belly.
Speaker 3: Of an Architect.
Speaker 2: Now these are interesting because a lot of these are genuinely,
Speaker 2: really great movies. It seems like they just thought, if
Speaker 2: we put these back on the Vinegar Syndrome line and
Speaker 2: subscribers got them, half of the subscribers would hate our guts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so what's Sidna? What's your first name? Is it Daniel?
Speaker 3: It is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a great gun. Say it's true.
Speaker 2: A pack of gom, a single button, several paper clips,
Speaker 2: and menu for a restaurant that went out of business
Speaker 2: five years ago. This is VSL The Desk Drawer of
Speaker 2: Random Things of Vinegar Syndrome.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't know what.
Speaker 4: I can't defend the label as a whole. There are
Speaker 4: some individual titles on this that are are simply phenomenal.
Speaker 3: Literally, yeah, and like and.
Speaker 4: Like shocking that Vinegar Syndrome has it in the sense
Speaker 4: of like it could be a Criterion release, it could
Speaker 4: be a Second Sight release, it could be a like
Speaker 4: Indicator like whatever.
Speaker 2: Or it has been an Indicator release or a Radiance
Speaker 2: release a couple of these.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, you're on the Shulkan's thing. Like that
Speaker 4: is just I don't know, unbelievable filmmaking. Like every single
Speaker 4: movie in that is is better than The Last Ye
Speaker 4: Guest House. Paroity so is fun if you if you're
Speaker 4: into that British comedy. It's like really violent and like
Speaker 4: over the top slapsticky and like uh silly, like very
Speaker 4: very silly. Gets it's a fun movie if you like
Speaker 4: that kind of stuff. Some people like the films of
Speaker 4: Indrique Gomez Vadio. I honestly don't know what the hell
Speaker 4: they see in it, Like I'm I'm really trying to
Speaker 4: like find Like there's a there's one called Death on
Speaker 4: the Beach where it has like they it's just like
Speaker 4: funny death scenes, but they're not played for comedy, Like
Speaker 4: they push this person off a cliff and it just
Speaker 4: looks like this doll like me and like it looks
Speaker 4: like a comedy but it's not. And when people talk
Speaker 4: about it, they're like, oh, this guy is so influential
Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. I don't get it. But then
Speaker 4: you have something like sex Mission coming out, which is
Speaker 4: just unbelievable, and like more, I think, I don't know
Speaker 4: why more people aren't talking about it. I'm assuming they
Speaker 4: just haven't seen it. The Story of a Junkie is
Speaker 4: like a very surprisingly and sweet movie. Yeah, like and
Speaker 4: you know, Paganini is just batshit crazy, but like in
Speaker 4: some fun ways, it's Kinski trying to make a biopic
Speaker 4: if you can imagine, like and like he's fully on
Speaker 4: whatever he's on for that. Some people liked Interrogation a
Speaker 4: lot more than I did. I thought it was okay.
Speaker 4: I don't get the love for Bloodline. I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: honest with y'all. Sorry, Ryan, Brian, you and I seem
Speaker 4: to be a different wave length tonight. I'm sorry. I
Speaker 4: don't get the love for Bloodline. I was really mad
Speaker 4: at the ending of the movie, but how it ended.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, this is it, this is how
Speaker 4: it's ending. And then Tara NATS is like silly, sort
Speaker 4: of like Saturday morning sci fi that's just nothing. Stakes
Speaker 4: are never that high. It's kind of charming, specifically in London.
Speaker 4: In London, and then mention a madness is this really surrealistic,
Speaker 4: like crazy thing? And I can't wait to see Belly
Speaker 4: of an Architect.
Speaker 3: I think any.
Speaker 4: Anything that Greenaway does I'll watch. But he's a weird dude,
Speaker 4: and I'm here for it, Like I like weird. But
Speaker 4: he did a three hour imagine this, like imagine pitching this.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, Ryan, Sorry, I thought you were going
Speaker 4: to defend it. No, I didn't like it, but some
Speaker 4: people like it. But imagine pitching this movie. He made
Speaker 4: a movie called The Falls, which is three hours long,
Speaker 4: and it's a what's the word, like a like a
Speaker 4: you know if you go on vacation back in the
Speaker 4: eighties and you would show like a like a you
Speaker 4: put all your slides together and have like a like
Speaker 4: a slideshow of the vacation. What it was it's called
Speaker 4: Was it just a slide show?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, So like it's almost it's almost like that. It's
Speaker 4: like it's like the series of images that are mostly static,
Speaker 4: maybe some moving a little bit with a radio style
Speaker 4: narrator over the top talking about ninety different families that
Speaker 4: were impacted by a mysterious plague or a mysterious event
Speaker 4: had something to do with birds. And it's three hours
Speaker 4: long and it's like played for sort of like dark comedy,
Speaker 4: but there's no narrative structure. You learn about this event
Speaker 4: as the movie goes on. But he asked his audience
Speaker 4: to just sit with him for three hours. It's like,
Speaker 4: as long as it's taking me to tell this story,
Speaker 4: must be brutal, brutal, but he does shit like that,
Speaker 4: Like he's he just just always is like pushing things.
Speaker 4: So I can't wait to see Belly of an Architect.
Speaker 4: And Eugenie Otell's a really touching story about this one
Speaker 4: because he's pretty involved in this release and he actually
Speaker 4: got to interview his dad and anyways, it's a cool
Speaker 4: it's a it's a really nice story. So I can't
Speaker 4: wait to see this one.
Speaker 2: All that to say this to me is a really
Speaker 2: great line. I think this is actually where some of
Speaker 2: the better titles are. What's odd to me, though, is
Speaker 2: that they talk about this as an experimental sort of
Speaker 2: proving ground for what they could put out, but like
Speaker 2: at least a third of these feel very much like
Speaker 2: VS releases already, Like Mansion and Madness would have been
Speaker 2: just fine on the regular VS line. Story of a
Speaker 2: junkie fits exactly with a lot of the stuff that
Speaker 2: they do, or even a VSA. Theoretically, Paganini definitely fits
Speaker 2: in with the regular VS line. I mean it's Kinsky
Speaker 2: doing weird Kinsky shit, like, that's exactly vinegar syndrome. Guest
Speaker 2: House Paradiso. You already did Drop Dead Fred, Why is
Speaker 2: this on the VSL line. It's a spiritual partner.
Speaker 3: To that film.
Speaker 2: Sure, it's just some odd choices, I understand. The first
Speaker 2: three that they put out it was like, oh, you're
Speaker 2: actually doing like classic cinema. This is something that you've
Speaker 2: never done before. This is interesting. And then they went
Speaker 2: polish and that one sure very different than what you
Speaker 2: put out. And then guest House Paradiso was announced, and
Speaker 2: it's like, wait a minute, this is just another line
Speaker 2: where it's like, hey, let's just throw shit together. That
Speaker 2: sometimes makes no sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Keith, Keith Soofferson. Everybody that I've spoken to that
Speaker 4: has seen that movie, The Sea nor the Sand really
Speaker 4: liked it. I need to get to it. I was
Speaker 4: just because I'm moving. It is the only reason I haven't.
Speaker 4: But everybody that's seen it really likes it. It's apparently
Speaker 4: like quite quite an excellent movie.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. It's not my favorite from the whole line,
Speaker 2: but it's pretty good.
Speaker 4: Well you've seen it, think Yeah.
Speaker 2: I want to point out to some of these that
Speaker 2: we didn't get enough attention to the first time, primarily
Speaker 2: five Card stud This is one of those films that
Speaker 2: is wild that VINEGARSONRM released it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2: That they have a film out with that cast specifically,
Speaker 2: and it's the first thing and only thing they've done
Speaker 2: from that genre. Again, The Apocalypse Tetrology is a really
Speaker 2: really exciting thing that they put out Store or even
Speaker 2: Junkie though probably one of the most surprising titles from
Speaker 2: this line. It looks like an odd title, but one
Speaker 2: that I think most people don't see it will find something.
Speaker 3: To truly enjoy with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very good, all right, And that brings us to
Speaker 2: the Kapper Vinegar Syndrome Archive. Now, this says the Vinegar
Speaker 2: Syndrome Archive sublabel celebrates four forgotten cinematic oddities from the
Speaker 2: video store era. This collection was inspired by our own
Speaker 2: brick and mortar video stores with locations in Bridgeport, Connecticut, Aurora, Colorado,
Speaker 2: and Toronto, Ontario. And so they're leaning into the video
Speaker 2: store thing. But oh man, the titles on this line,
Speaker 2: there have been quite a few. We're talking everything from
Speaker 2: crack House to Women on the Run to Lifeline so
Speaker 2: they call me Macho Woman, to Champagne and Bullets. There's
Speaker 2: been some rather well known titles in here. And when
Speaker 2: I say rather well known, I just primarily mean much
Speaker 2: more known than the.
Speaker 3: Rest of the titles on this line.
Speaker 2: But there's been some titles on here that nobody had
Speaker 2: ever heard of basically before they were announced. The big
Speaker 2: thing for these is that they sell out, and there
Speaker 2: is supposedly no standard editions, although they're starting to do
Speaker 2: some on the VSMC where you combine them with your
Speaker 2: points rather than purchasing the film. Again, a lot of
Speaker 2: their older titles on this line used to be like
Speaker 2: cheesy action movies or cheesy horror movies, or just straight
Speaker 2: cheesy movies. But now, as Chris said earlier, we have
Speaker 2: kind of left from the cheesy action film line to
Speaker 2: suddenly this is like a lot of Asian films coming.
Speaker 3: And nothing against that.
Speaker 2: I truly enjoy those, but it's been a weird ride
Speaker 2: for VSA. So how do you, Chris, how do you
Speaker 2: define VSA it?
Speaker 4: I do quickly want to comment that I think it's
Speaker 4: funny they talk about the video store era, and then
Speaker 4: they mentioned the video stores that they've opened up as
Speaker 4: if they've been around from the eighties, running like Syndrome
Speaker 4: stores for forty years. A minor nitpick and copywriting. It's fine,
Speaker 4: no similar, I don't know, Eureka on steroids, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think for me, I think what they're trying to
Speaker 4: do is like the feeling of like walking through the
Speaker 4: video store shelves and like seeing all these random action
Speaker 4: titles and Hong Kong movies now and like actually know
Speaker 4: Martial Arts movies and stuff. I still do feel like
Speaker 4: they're if you think about their whole catalog like laid
Speaker 4: out on a shelves, it kind of makes sense, right
Speaker 4: because you have like the jalal Mary section, right or
Speaker 4: j Mary or whatever. I don't know how to say
Speaker 4: his name, I've never heard it said, but like you've
Speaker 4: got all those like Billy Banks movies, and stuff. Right,
Speaker 4: you've got the Cynthia roth Rock section and then you're
Speaker 4: starting to now get into like the Hong Kong section.
Speaker 4: So like I can kind of see like if they're
Speaker 4: trying to recreate because it does seem like they go
Speaker 4: section by section in a way. So that's the best
Speaker 4: I can wrap my mind around what this line is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, like some of these I understand, you know,
Speaker 2: remembering like posters from video store days, but like I
Speaker 2: don't know even just the stuff that we're looking at,
Speaker 2: like Mind Benders, that was never something that people are
Speaker 2: clamoring for that you remember seeing on the video store shelves.
Speaker 3: Probably no.
Speaker 4: And this is not to defend it, because Mind Benders
Speaker 4: is not that great of a movie, but like it's
Speaker 4: like I do understand. I do think it fits in
Speaker 4: the description in the sense of like you're walking through
Speaker 4: a shelf and you see the random movie that like
Speaker 4: you would have never seen otherwise. It's in like this
Speaker 4: local video store. It's like a regional thing or like
Speaker 4: a you know, like you like you have these independent
Speaker 4: video stores that were curated by people that loves movies,
Speaker 4: and so you get like that style of thing, right,
Speaker 4: I don't know I can kind of see it like that.
Speaker 2: I actually really like what Simner says here. He says,
Speaker 2: my video store is mostly what Cinematograph is putting out,
Speaker 2: and I would agree with that fully.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I can't. I wasn't in y'all's video stores.
Speaker 3: And VSU I guess.
Speaker 4: Yeah, See, Adam, I think that's a perfect way to
Speaker 4: say it, like trash nostalgia. I think that's a nice like.
Speaker 3: The word trash is a nice way to describe it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good though, Like it's trash and like a
Speaker 4: lot it's like it's stuff that like you're surprised by.
Speaker 4: You pick it up and you see some movies you
Speaker 4: don't like and you give Santo Doctor Death a chance,
Speaker 4: and you're like, you realize that they're trying to make
Speaker 4: them into like a Bond character, and you're like, what
Speaker 4: the hell is going on with this? But it's kind
Speaker 4: of fun.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing.
Speaker 2: A lot of these are fun. They it just feels
Speaker 2: so weird to put them together. Yeah, and it's certainly
Speaker 2: not what they originally called out with the label The
Speaker 2: Interesting thing too. We haven't even gone into it, but
Speaker 2: it has very specific packaging. It's got like VHS style
Speaker 2: pull off the top packaging, and they all come with
Speaker 2: a poster. This is the only line that comes with
Speaker 2: a poster on the inside. It's not a huge poster,
Speaker 2: and it's a folded poster, but it is one that
Speaker 2: you know they're trying to lean into that video store
Speaker 2: feeling of putting a poster in there.
Speaker 3: And I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean some of these titles again not great. Some
Speaker 2: of these titles are airy, nostalgic. I mean, like the
Speaker 2: Martial Law series. As I come across it, that one
Speaker 2: makes total sense on what they originally announced this for
Speaker 2: Action USA less so, but when you watch the movie,
Speaker 2: it feels like it, and then you look at the
Speaker 2: House of Usher and it's just not the same.
Speaker 4: The if there was ever, Like, my hope with this
Speaker 4: line is that they get into like a JCVD situation,
Speaker 4: or they get into like maybe more Chuck Norris movies
Speaker 4: or something like. I hope, I hope they eventually can
Speaker 4: kind of afford those those style of movies because it'd
Speaker 4: be fun to see all the Cynthia Rothwacks stuff I
Speaker 4: think sold pretty well, and the Jeel Mary stuff sold
Speaker 4: pretty well, So I hope they kind of keep going
Speaker 4: in that direction.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I totally get that. Not my style. I
Speaker 2: don't want more stuff like Jelel Mary. I do love
Speaker 2: the Asian stuff they're putting out.
Speaker 4: Though, Yeah they're fun. I mean Action USA.
Speaker 3: In my.
Speaker 4: Very objective list of my top one hundred, I think
Speaker 4: is in the top five or for sure in the
Speaker 4: top ten. Like it's one of my favorite movies of
Speaker 4: all time, genuine incredible. That was the movie, Yeah that
Speaker 4: got me into Vineger syndrome to begin with, and like
Speaker 4: Spellcasters fun. I don't know, but oh, hey, what's up, Chris,
Speaker 4: that's the other Chris. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good stuff here overall, well, not overall, some good,
Speaker 2: some bad. I have, you know, not been fond of
Speaker 2: the limited and then it's gone model with this, I
Speaker 2: know specifically, like a lot of people are talking about
Speaker 2: Champagne and Bullets today and I'll scroll up just slightly
Speaker 2: to cover it, but I mean, it's a film that
Speaker 2: has wings Houser that people want on Blu Ray and
Speaker 2: they only did like five thousand copies of it, and
Speaker 2: now you can't get it for less than I don't know,
Speaker 2: like one hundred and forty dollars eBay or whatever. Why
Speaker 2: why is that a thing?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean why would you turn down standard sales? Right?
Speaker 4: I get it. Champagne Bullets is worth one hundred and
Speaker 4: forty dollars, though.
Speaker 3: I would disagree there.
Speaker 4: I think it was made for one hundred and forty dollars.
Speaker 3: And that's after leaving a tip.
Speaker 4: It's still fun though. God bless that movie. Man, I
Speaker 4: love like I don't know the guy made his own
Speaker 4: theme song, like that movie's fantastic, all.
Speaker 3: Right, my friend?
Speaker 2: That means time to get into like some overall rankings
Speaker 2: on these labels. So if that's what we're saying, we
Speaker 2: are ranking these seven line or six lines. What do
Speaker 2: you have at your number six? Least favorite of the
Speaker 2: VS sub labels?
Speaker 4: Youngest least amount of titles? Still trying to figure out
Speaker 4: what they are. De Gauser's number six, No shade on it,
Speaker 4: but just you know, the strip picks would have been
Speaker 4: number seven if we had included them. But I think
Speaker 4: the Gouser's number six for me?
Speaker 3: What about you? My number six?
Speaker 2: Primarily because of the hit rate is VSP right off
Speaker 2: the line. I think that this has maybe the worst
Speaker 2: films in the entire VS catalog, primarily street Trash.
Speaker 3: It is that bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was angry that I took ninety minutes to
Speaker 2: watch Street Trash. I think that they do have some
Speaker 2: really good ones in this line, but the fact that
Speaker 2: they've got like four that I wanted to put a
Speaker 2: fork in my ear after watching they had to be
Speaker 2: the bottom of mine for sure.
Speaker 4: Vsp's next for me. It's the next one for me,
Speaker 4: So yeah.
Speaker 2: I did not mean to do that. Okay, So that's perfect.
Speaker 2: So my number five is the gouser. The big thing
Speaker 2: here is like they won me over with Cannibal the
Speaker 2: Musical and Redneck Zombies, but the quality alone is really not.
Speaker 3: Great on this line.
Speaker 2: And if they're gonna do it, I want more of
Speaker 2: the titles to feel like Cannibal to Musical where they've
Speaker 2: got all of the extras to really beef up the
Speaker 2: release to make up for the lack of picture quality
Speaker 2: that you're able to get out of it. Yeah, next
Speaker 2: up for you, number four.
Speaker 4: So I want to preface this because when I ranked
Speaker 4: every movie that Cursau had made, people would get really
Speaker 4: mad at my number thirteen movie from Curso and it
Speaker 4: was a five star movie for me. So like, it's
Speaker 4: just a matter of like filtering things that I like, Right,
Speaker 4: I want to say everything from here on out I like,
Speaker 4: and I could defend in almost any position that being said.
Speaker 4: Number four for me is probably going to be VSU.
Speaker 4: That's probably the next one for me, simply because of
Speaker 4: the lows of it, Like there's not that many titles,
Speaker 4: and even though Roadhouse is in, like, yeah, the Roadhouse
Speaker 4: would put it up. I don't know, it's just it's random.
Speaker 4: It seems random to me, and it's number four for me.
Speaker 2: I think we're gonna be pretty aligned here because this
Speaker 2: is my number four, primarily because I feel I think
Speaker 2: a lot like similar. I feel like they put a
Speaker 2: lot more choice on this, literally just for the packaging,
Speaker 2: and I have fallen way away from the packaging love
Speaker 2: that a lot of people are. It's they're very nice,
Speaker 2: but I want packaging like that for titles that I love.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not Daryl or fucking Chuck Norris movies.
Speaker 2: I like a couple of these, a lot like Southern
Speaker 2: Comfort is incredible, genuinely a freaking amazing movie. Showgirls is incredible,
Speaker 2: but also like the Showgirls release, as much as I
Speaker 2: love Showgirls has really not great art.
Speaker 3: I kind of wish they did something different with it,
Speaker 3: but quickly.
Speaker 4: How dare you Chuck Norris saved America from an actual invasion?
Speaker 4: Just respect?
Speaker 2: I have zero respect for the iceman or the Norris man,
Speaker 2: whatever we want to call him today. Uh yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't like Chuck Norris at all.
Speaker 3: Let's go your number three.
Speaker 4: Then, Cinematograph High Highs. Shanks is one of the favorite
Speaker 4: movies I've discovered in the last three years, five years,
Speaker 4: I don't know. I love Shanks is amazing. A lot
Speaker 4: of really really good movies in that line. My personal
Speaker 4: like I don't spend a lot of time wishing I
Speaker 4: had seen more dramas from the seventies or like from
Speaker 4: the eighties, Like that's not something that I like. Like
Speaker 4: they're finding good stuff, but it's from a genre that
Speaker 4: I don't otherwise care about, and so cool stuff, and
Speaker 4: I'm happy I've seen a lot of but it's not
Speaker 4: like the kind of thing I'm drawn to, so that's
Speaker 4: the only reason. But like, yeah, it's number three, I
Speaker 4: still really like it.
Speaker 2: On that note, they do have different things coming, like
Speaker 2: I believe the one getting announced on April first is
Speaker 2: their first action title, and they've got I think later
Speaker 2: in the year they've got a horror double feature coming,
Speaker 2: which is interesting. But yeah, it's a good pick. I
Speaker 2: like Cinematograph. My number three is probably gonna be VSA. Actually,
Speaker 2: I really love a lot of the Asian titles they've
Speaker 2: been doing over the last a couple I was gonna
Speaker 2: say months, but it's definitely been like nine or twelve months,
Speaker 2: not just a couple months. A lot of those are
Speaker 2: incredible movies. I truly enjoy what they put out, stuff
Speaker 2: like Frontline, and a lot of them have just won
Speaker 2: me over. Unfortunately, I was never you know, I just
Speaker 2: bashed Chuck Norris. I don't like the cheesy action movies.
Speaker 2: I'm not into Jeel Mary. I'm not into I'm not
Speaker 2: even to a lot of the Cynthia Rothrock stuff, and
Speaker 2: it's primary. It's just not nostalgic for me. I wasn't
Speaker 2: raised on it, so I don't have the love that
Speaker 2: somebody like you.
Speaker 3: Has for there, Chris.
Speaker 2: I stuff like Action USA was great, and if it
Speaker 2: was closer to that, I would be into it, but
Speaker 2: there's a there's a big quality drop from Action USA
Speaker 2: to jeelal Mary's number one hit. I just I can't
Speaker 2: bridge that gap in my mind, so that that has
Speaker 2: to be my number three.
Speaker 4: I'll come back to VSA in just a minute. Number two.
Speaker 4: This is tough for me because I'm a Gemini. Like
Speaker 4: I've learned later in life, I'm a Gemini my astrology sign.
Speaker 4: And the more I learn about that, like it's really
Speaker 4: my personality. So I have like two sides competing all
Speaker 4: the time, but one of them is going to be
Speaker 4: like the art House stuff, And so I'm tempted to
Speaker 4: put VSL at number one because of like the Shulkan
Speaker 4: set just alone, like it's tough to get better than
Speaker 4: that as a collection of movies. But VSL for me,
Speaker 4: has a lot of like range, like there's a lot
Speaker 4: of movies I also didn't like, so or there's some
Speaker 4: movies I also I didn't like, not a lot. So
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put it in.
Speaker 2: Too interesting choice. I can't wait to hear what you
Speaker 2: say about VSA. I'll talk about VSL in just a minute.
Speaker 2: My number two is Cinematograph. I think that they've had
Speaker 2: some excellent titles. I do like that somebody in the
Speaker 2: US other than Cape Light is trying media books. I
Speaker 2: wish she would have tried a little differently than he
Speaker 2: put the thought does packaging. I love the whole let's
Speaker 2: do like a custom disc tray for our releases. That's
Speaker 2: cool at all, and I do think they're higher quality
Speaker 2: than a lot of them. But I mean the art
Speaker 2: choices on these have not all been stellar. The films.
Speaker 2: There's a couple that are lacking, but a lot of
Speaker 2: them are pretty great. It is a line that's had
Speaker 2: some pretty good special features. Not something that we highlighted earlier,
Speaker 2: but Justin definitely has some good choices there. And the
Speaker 2: big thing they you know, you've got a guaranteed booklet
Speaker 2: of essays in every single release because it's a media book.
Speaker 2: And I do like myself some essays, So that is
Speaker 2: my number two.
Speaker 4: When I have a pretty stressful job. I don't talk
Speaker 4: about it a lot, but there's a lot of stress
Speaker 4: and that goes along with it. And when I want
Speaker 4: to relax, I like a movie that's really in a
Speaker 4: genre that I like that like Pains by the Numbers,
Speaker 4: It's just like it knows exactly what it is. And
Speaker 4: some of the genres that I like are like spaghetti
Speaker 4: westerns and like you know, Japanese pinkoo movies and stuff
Speaker 4: like that. But the other some of the other ones
Speaker 4: I like are like silly eighties and nineties action movies.
Speaker 4: It's just a very soothing thing for me, and so
Speaker 4: I will always support something like VSA. I love it
Speaker 4: like it's a very like a like a chicken soup
Speaker 4: for the soul kind of thing for me to watch
Speaker 4: Jael al Mary do like a half hearted roundhouse kick
Speaker 4: and he's supposed to be some like super sorry, like
Speaker 4: martial arts guy in Brazil or something. Seems like he
Speaker 4: bought that title. I'm just gonna say it, like I
Speaker 4: kind of like it, like Cynthia Rothrock doing a kick
Speaker 4: at half speed, like I kind of like it. And
Speaker 4: then they're getting into the like the Asian stuff, which
Speaker 4: is great. Like they put out Hero right and I'm
Speaker 4: not crazy, right, yeah, yeah, I mean my father is
Speaker 4: a hero. I mean sorry, And they put out Love
Speaker 4: on Delivery. The movie is so charming, so.
Speaker 2: I get it. It's not a bad pick. But that
Speaker 2: leaves for me number one. I've got VSL left, And
Speaker 2: so with VSL, my big thing is I am a
Speaker 2: big fan of variety. A grab bag label is literally
Speaker 2: perfect for me. We are all over the place, with
Speaker 2: time that it was created, genres that it was created,
Speaker 2: countries that it was created in, And I think this
Speaker 2: line truly has the highest highs and even the lowest
Speaker 2: of the VSL is not like Tripe, which some of
Speaker 2: the other lines have some genuine like this movie is
Speaker 2: just truly terrible.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think the VSL.
Speaker 2: It's got a higher hit rate so far, and I'm
Speaker 2: totally fine with it being a proving ground, I guess,
Speaker 2: but also I don't need that. Just put it in
Speaker 2: the VS line. I'd be all about that. And I
Speaker 2: know I'm weird. I know a lot of people aren't
Speaker 2: that same way. And you know, I think it was
Speaker 2: wave pointed out earlier. A lot of the VS subscribers
Speaker 2: are literally over the last couple of years complaining about
Speaker 2: reading subtitles. So some of these titles that would have
Speaker 2: been in the VS line, They're like, let's put in
Speaker 2: the VSL so that we get less complaints.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's so much in this line that is just interesting,
Speaker 2: and I love a lot of the regular VS titles,
Speaker 2: but I can only do that so much. I have
Speaker 2: to have variety in what I watch, so even like
Speaker 2: box sets, I pretty much never can watch a box
Speaker 2: set start to finish. I gotta put other stuff in between.
Speaker 2: And the VSL line is really interesting for me for that.
Speaker 4: A hund of percent agree. I think people that can
Speaker 4: sit down and just watch like seventeen movies in a
Speaker 4: box set, I don't. Like, I don't know how you
Speaker 4: do it. I can't. I have to mix it up.
Speaker 4: I just for me, like they start to blend together
Speaker 4: and I fall asleep and it takes me a long
Speaker 4: time and everything. Hey, yeah, I'm curious of Craig. Just
Speaker 4: one thing you brought up, Like I interestingly enough, the
Speaker 4: Vinegar Syndrome line really doesn't have a lot of action
Speaker 4: in it, like it has Sun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially Asian over the last couple of years.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like it really doesn't have a lot of
Speaker 4: like cheesy eighties action movies or nineties action movies. Like
Speaker 4: it's horror. It's a horror line, right. It's like they
Speaker 4: started off like a porn line and a horror line,
Speaker 4: and like they got into a little bit of genre film,
Speaker 4: but they really never did the whole like MVD rewind
Speaker 4: thing that really wasn't them and still really isn't. But
Speaker 4: you know, VSA and MVD rewind can compete a lot
Speaker 4: of times, right.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know the next question that Craig just
Speaker 2: asked is the Well, let's be honest here. The real
Speaker 2: reason many of these sub labels exist. You have subscribers.
Speaker 2: You can't just give them all of the films as
Speaker 2: part of the subscription for free. So they created a
Speaker 2: lot of these sub labels just to be able to
Speaker 2: sell more movies. And yeah, when you're putting out four
Speaker 2: on the main line in a month and then six
Speaker 2: sub label films in a month at the same time, yeah,
Speaker 2: like you just want to make more money.
Speaker 3: And that's okay, nothing.
Speaker 2: Against that, but it's really hard to justify those sub
Speaker 2: labels when some of those titles literally make perfect sense
Speaker 2: on the main line.
Speaker 4: I do think if there's a critique of the sub
Speaker 4: label as like a whole there that I think has
Speaker 4: come up a lot tonight. They're not super selective with
Speaker 4: what goes in each sub label, right, And there's a
Speaker 4: lot of people in this hobby that are pretty ocd
Speaker 4: about that kind of stuff. And like, I'm not even
Speaker 4: gonna throw stones because there's times where it hurts my
Speaker 4: brain trying to figure out what a line is about
Speaker 4: there are sub labels about and so I do think
Speaker 4: that's a miss from them a little bit. They're not,
Speaker 4: They're not. Their curation is not super precise.
Speaker 3: And that's that's the thing.
Speaker 2: You know, there are certain labels, and not just because
Speaker 2: Craig is here or something, but I'll say, like deaf Crocodile,
Speaker 2: I know I can trust their curation others because it's
Speaker 2: been pretty much every single title has been a hit
Speaker 2: for me, Mona micabre I can trust their curation almost
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. Vinegar syndrome. That's not that type of label.
Speaker 2: They're releasing so many things. There's going to be films
Speaker 2: that you literally hate that they're putting out. There's going
Speaker 2: to be films that might be one of your favorite
Speaker 2: discoveries over the last year. Likely you're gonna have some
Speaker 2: months where you have both of those together, and that
Speaker 2: is not enough to be able to say that you
Speaker 2: trust them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's an interesting comment about the getting away with
Speaker 4: the subscription altogether. Before we go. There's a comment that
Speaker 4: Ryan made up there about never heard the love for
Speaker 4: spaghetti westerns explain that way. Thank you for saying something, Ryan,
Speaker 4: I know we've been in front of me tonight. But yeah,
Speaker 4: spaghetti westerns are the best. I appreciate you saying it.
Speaker 4: But the the subscription thing is interesting. I actually do
Speaker 4: think there's going to be a change in the subscription model.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't even think that's necessarily like private information.
Speaker 4: He was more or less indicating that something would happen
Speaker 4: right on your discord. I imagine behind the scenes are
Speaker 4: trying to figure that out too, because like, you know,
Speaker 4: all honesty, do you think Joe Robin ever thought or
Speaker 4: Joe Rubin excuse me, ever thought that the archive that
Speaker 4: he bought would turn into this, like right, Like he's
Speaker 4: got to be pretty stoked at what this has turned into.
Speaker 4: And I do like that's kind of cool, like, you know,
Speaker 4: as a business owner, Like that's a success story, right,
Speaker 4: Like they just went in and they bought an archive,
Speaker 4: and they're like, what do we do with this? Like
Speaker 4: I don't know, Let's make some discs and then they
Speaker 4: put out porn for a while, and then like then
Speaker 4: they put out other stuff, and like they've kind of
Speaker 4: grown into this, so like it's a success story, right,
Speaker 4: And like I think we're watching them in this transition
Speaker 4: stage right now, where they're trying to figure out what
Speaker 4: they're going to be next. So we get into a
Speaker 4: lot of conversations like we're having now. But that's why
Speaker 4: I'm still a subscriber, and like that's why I still
Speaker 4: support them and kind of like them is they're imperfect,
Speaker 4: but like coming from the startup world, like every CEO
Speaker 4: of a startup is imperfect, Like that's very common and
Speaker 4: that's not necessarily the bar to make a successful business.
Speaker 4: And the people that work at VS, I mean, you can,
Speaker 4: you don't have to listen to Punk Vacation, but like
Speaker 4: if you do, you'll hear it. They love movies and
Speaker 4: that's cool, Like this careers for people that like really
Speaker 4: love movies.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: So we've covered a lot tonight from from VS. Let's
Speaker 2: let's end on this. Then it seems clear through what
Speaker 2: we've heard and through a lot of complaints that they
Speaker 2: want to change up the subscription. Let's be honest, they're
Speaker 2: never going to get rid of it. They make far
Speaker 2: too much in one go to get rid of it.
Speaker 2: It's the influx and cash they likely need to keep
Speaker 2: it going at the rate that they're going every year,
Speaker 2: literally like signing signing these paramount titles that they're doing,
Speaker 2: takes a lot of money to cover the restoration stuff,
Speaker 2: to get the actual licensing. Four K licenses are not cheap.
Speaker 2: They're gonna do that. So in your mind, and I'm
Speaker 2: sure you've thought about this before, so I am going
Speaker 2: to put you on the spot, how do you.
Speaker 3: Fix the subscription.
Speaker 2: Other than you know, the obvious of there's a subscription
Speaker 2: to everything and it costs four thousand dollars instead of
Speaker 2: one thousand.
Speaker 3: How do you fix the subscription?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with you that the subscription is a
Speaker 4: big cash influx for them, and for that reason alone,
Speaker 4: they'll never get rid of it. The thing in business
Speaker 4: that's a pretty consistent thing across every industry is you
Speaker 4: have to be very clean. Like if I have any
Speaker 4: complaint against terror Vision, which I don't really have a
Speaker 4: lot of complaints because they're amazing, but their subscription model
Speaker 4: is not totally clean. I think in terms of like,
Speaker 4: you know, you can buy like this one or this
Speaker 4: one or this one, and like it doesn't totally like
Speaker 4: it's you know, or like what's the other one. Radiance
Speaker 4: is having to figure this out now because they had
Speaker 4: that mega subscription in the beginning and now they're doing
Speaker 4: like you can do six months and you can do
Speaker 4: US or you can do UK, and like they're like,
Speaker 4: it's just it's difficult, right because we as collectors are
Speaker 4: working across regions, but that's not how rights work. So
Speaker 4: it's like they're constantly having to navigated all this. Okay, anyways,
Speaker 4: So I think everyone's trying to figure out a subscription
Speaker 4: model that can work because it's just you need that
Speaker 4: cash to go acquire more titles, and it's like this
Speaker 4: cyclical thing. I guess, right, So if I were going
Speaker 4: to fix it, I would probably do like three tiers
Speaker 4: or something like that. I want to keep it simple.
Speaker 4: I would say, first of all, you can do a
Speaker 4: partner label sub and you pick ten a month and
Speaker 4: you get to you pick the ten you want. And
Speaker 4: I understand that that's hard on the back end for
Speaker 4: warehouses and stuff. I get it, but there is I mean,
Speaker 4: I sell like a lot of logistical software and supply
Speaker 4: chain software. It's not that hard. Like it's hard, but
Speaker 4: it's not that hard. Like there's people like Walmart that
Speaker 4: are selling in each store. They're like one hundred million
Speaker 4: SKUs or something like, and they you know, like it's
Speaker 4: not that hard, So you would just need a little
Speaker 4: bit more sophisticated software or having like two weeks of
Speaker 4: a consultant to come in and help you organize the
Speaker 4: supply chain software you have. And no, no, Craig, I
Speaker 4: get it. I'm just saying, like at the volume that
Speaker 4: they're selling, there are solutions that don't make sense for
Speaker 4: somebody selling at a lower volume because now they're a
Speaker 4: major player, like they's like they're a major they're producing
Speaker 4: movies now right like they're if they needed to go
Speaker 4: raise fifty million dollars of funding, they could go do
Speaker 4: it right and not not every label can kind of
Speaker 4: like say that, I guess. So anyways, I would do
Speaker 4: something like three tiers. I would have one that's just
Speaker 4: a partner label sub and it's a defined amount. You
Speaker 4: get ten a month or whatever some amount of a month,
Speaker 4: and then you can you can buy extra if you
Speaker 4: want to. But most of the time, if they're releasing
Speaker 4: seventeen to eighteen titles a month, if you can find
Speaker 4: maybe it's five a month, I mean, if you can
Speaker 4: find five to eight you really desperately need a month,
Speaker 4: you're doing pretty well, right. I would do I still
Speaker 4: think the VS thing needs to be There's an interesting
Speaker 4: topic that's come up in a lot of different ways here.
Speaker 4: I think you need to reduce the amount of sub
Speaker 4: labels you have. I don't think there's any reason to
Speaker 4: have seven sub labels if you include a strip. I
Speaker 4: just don't think you need it. I understand the need
Speaker 4: for VSU. I think you could almost do something different
Speaker 4: with VSU and make it like a marquee thing where
Speaker 4: it's like halfway to Black Friday and Black Friday. There's
Speaker 4: going to be a major title released and you know,
Speaker 4: you can call it VS if you want to, or
Speaker 4: you can call it VSU if you want to. But
Speaker 4: I think if you make it like an event, people
Speaker 4: will kind of get behind it whatever it's called, and
Speaker 4: it's going to be this is like this is where
Speaker 4: we do a studio movie and we're doing it to
Speaker 4: raise funds, and you know whatever, We're going to sell
Speaker 4: twelve thousand copies of The Keep and go buy another
Speaker 4: copy of Blood Trucks. So I think you reduce the
Speaker 4: amount of sub labels and you then can do the
Speaker 4: VS main line and it still works. And then I
Speaker 4: think you just kind of make a commitment to not
Speaker 4: doing if there is a super tier, I do think
Speaker 4: you create a super tier, and I think you're going
Speaker 4: to find a couple hundred people a year that are
Speaker 4: going to pay four thousand dollars and just get everything,
Speaker 4: like I do. I do honestly think there are a few.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's not five hundred, but I do honestly think
Speaker 4: there's some people that are like, I don't care, just
Speaker 4: send me the stuff, and like I want to get
Speaker 4: everything you put out without worrying.
Speaker 3: If it'll sill out. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And if you can find a hundred of them, like,
Speaker 4: that's great, right, Like, I really do think you could
Speaker 4: do a super tier and it would.
Speaker 2: Work interesting and then Chris leaves immediately. I yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it's it's an interesting idea to think that so
Speaker 2: many people would sign on in that first week of
Speaker 2: the year to literally get everything and be able to
Speaker 2: bankroll that.
Speaker 3: Not sure how.
Speaker 2: Many they would get, but again, if you could get
Speaker 2: even you know, two hundred people to do that, that
Speaker 2: is a ton of money right there. So I've been
Speaker 2: thinking about this for a while. I think there is
Speaker 2: hope he comes back soon. I think there is one
Speaker 2: very pecific way to solve this, and it keeps it
Speaker 2: simple as well. First off, kind of like Chris two tiers.
Speaker 2: But the big thing is everybody has been sold on
Speaker 2: the subscription because you're acting like every title that you're
Speaker 2: getting your subscription is I guess it's just me now
Speaker 2: the sale price as if it was already fifty percent
Speaker 2: off MSRP. So my thought is you're literally subscribing at
Speaker 2: one thousand dollars, which you pay a thousand dollars and
Speaker 2: you get two thousand dollars worth of MSRP credit to
Speaker 2: spend however you wish throughout the year. You have a
Speaker 2: second tier that's two grand or twenty five hundred, but
Speaker 2: it's worth double that MSRP. And when you run out
Speaker 2: at the end of the year, you run out simple
Speaker 2: as that. If you are wanting more, you get the
Speaker 2: half price discount, just like you always were supposed to.
Speaker 2: You still get that on the partner labels. And the
Speaker 2: big thing is, of course, everybody that does this is
Speaker 2: very happy. You never have to pay for shipping, all
Speaker 2: the sales, all that stuff, all the shipping is already
Speaker 2: covered because they're getting their money in the beginning and
Speaker 2: you get that specific amount and it's literally just like
Speaker 2: a point system, and maybe he's back there.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 4: I called my shot in LA.
Speaker 2: It was perfect timing, so I don't know if you
Speaker 2: heard any of that. I called out a credit system.
Speaker 2: There's two tiers, one thousand dollars and it gets you
Speaker 2: essentially two thousand dollars worth of MSRP credit through the year.
Speaker 2: That's my idea. And then there is a second tier.
Speaker 2: It's either two thousand or twenty five hundred, but it
Speaker 2: gets you literally double that value in MSRP and you
Speaker 2: still get half price discounts for everything and free shipping,
Speaker 2: like that's the obvious way to go. Then you get
Speaker 2: to make the choice. Do you want to choose from
Speaker 2: the sub labels? Does the Vinigerson remain line look like
Speaker 2: crap to you this month? And you only want the
Speaker 2: VSU they announced, You have the MSRP to make the
Speaker 2: choice with.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good idea. I think that actually is
Speaker 4: a really good idea. The other thing is, if they're
Speaker 4: selling all their stuff at fifty percent off, I'd be
Speaker 4: curious to know how much they actually sell at what
Speaker 4: are they twenty percent off or whatever? They twenty five
Speaker 4: percent whatever? It is like versus fifty percent off, because
Speaker 4: if you're selling seventy percent of your inventory at fifty
Speaker 4: percent off, then at some point, like I think, just
Speaker 4: lower the prices too, and yeah, be honest, yeah, be
Speaker 4: honest about it, right, I wouldn't. I would like that,
Speaker 4: And then I think what you're talking about could work
Speaker 4: great because then you could sell at MSRP if it
Speaker 4: was twenty nine bucks or twenty seven bucks instead of sixty.
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly. Well, this has been fun.
Speaker 2: We always talk about VS in a lot of different ways,
Speaker 2: but dissecting the lines is not something that we've ever
Speaker 2: really done.
Speaker 3: So I'm glad we were able to do this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me on. It's no, it's
Speaker 4: not quite one of your eight hour epics, but it's
Speaker 4: still we're pushing three hours or no, we're over three
Speaker 4: hours now, so.
Speaker 3: Over three hours.
Speaker 2: What what is your most engaging social media you'd love
Speaker 2: people to follow.
Speaker 3: You on.
Speaker 4: Its It's tempting to say Instagram because I get a
Speaker 4: lot of dopamine if people follow me on Instagram and
Speaker 4: like in comment and stuff, so like, I'd love that,
Speaker 4: but I just have this, like I just have this
Speaker 4: like love for this pet project I'm doing on Reddit, so,
Speaker 4: like you know, I will never make any money off
Speaker 4: what I'm doing, so I'm not like selling anything. I
Speaker 4: just really am like obsessed about talking about movies. And
Speaker 4: if you if you go to the Instagram, oh it's
Speaker 4: Punk Vacation podcast. I think it's I think it's Punk
Speaker 4: Vacation Underscore podcast. That would be if you know, it'd
Speaker 4: be fine if you followed me and I get, like
Speaker 4: I said, I get some good dopamine from that, and
Speaker 4: I get to publish the episodes and stuff. But on
Speaker 4: Reddit it's our slash personal history of film and I
Speaker 4: need to keep it updated. I'm about a week or
Speaker 4: two behind. But yeah, I just post reviews and like
Speaker 4: I said, never make it any money off of it.
Speaker 4: But it's just fun for me. I like to engage
Speaker 4: and talk about it. And people always have such very
Speaker 4: takes on films. I mean there's people that like Vertigo
Speaker 4: in this world, which is just crazy to me. Yeah no,
Speaker 4: but like I love it when I don't try to
Speaker 4: have hot takes. But it's funny enough that you all
Speaker 4: give me a lot of shit. Because on they live
Speaker 4: by film. They've now shout out to Brian right, but
Speaker 4: they live by film. They gave me shit for having
Speaker 4: hot takes too, so this is where they I think
Speaker 4: I just happened to like weird stuff and not like
Speaker 4: normal stuff.
Speaker 2: To be fair, those are doled out pretty evenly amongst
Speaker 2: the three of you.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's true. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, I love
Speaker 4: I like if you want to come and talk to
Speaker 4: me on Reddit and keep me company, that warms my heart.
Speaker 4: But Instagram is better for the podcast, so do that too.
Speaker 2: Whatever, excellent. Yeah, just check out Chris stuff, a friend
Speaker 2: that I've known. Gosh, we're going on almost five years, Chris.
Speaker 4: It's funny and in this world it feels like thirty.
Speaker 3: It does, it truly does.
Speaker 4: Since Yeah, I've been through a divorce, like, we've shed
Speaker 4: a lot of life together. So yeah, yeah, no, it's
Speaker 4: been It's obviously your your family, So thank you for
Speaker 4: doing this.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited to have you on all the time
Speaker 2: and we always have really great discussions. Really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: Everybody follow Chris. Everybody followed the seventeen podcast he hosts.
Speaker 2: Check out what he's got coming in the future, and
Speaker 2: on for my stuff as usual. If you haven't signed
Speaker 2: up with the Patreon, check out the link in the
Speaker 2: description below the discorder would love to have you. We're
Speaker 2: still doing our promotion where if you sign up for
Speaker 2: a year in advance at at least the twelve dollars level.
Speaker 2: I've got a pile of stuff here that I'm sending
Speaker 2: out to people. I've still got some packages from the
Speaker 2: original glut of everybody that signed up that I've been
Speaker 2: waiting for better boxes to be able to send stuff in.
Speaker 2: People been very happy. Come hang out. We'd love to
Speaker 2: have you. And on that note, I guess we'll see
Speaker 2: everybody next Thursday, where I guess I can say now.
Speaker 2: And a reminder to Craig. Craig is our guest next week,
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