1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,919 Speaker 1: Says it's been recording for eleven seconds. 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:30,519 Speaker 2: M Hey, everybody, welcome back to an episode of the 3 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,799 Challenge podcast all about the Challenge. Welcome to the show. 4 00:00:34,799 --> 00:00:40,920 Apparently Carlon is hearing everything super loud today. I am 5 00:00:41,079 --> 00:00:44,520 she took her head off when I started talking sensitive years. 6 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:47,039 Speaker 3: That was just my ear was itchy. 7 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: Oh uh, Hey, everybody, we're doing fresh meat as usual, 8 00:00:53,799 --> 00:00:54,320 sitting in. 9 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 1: His house, big oka, sweetee, we're doing fresh meat, guys. 10 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 3: Urge fresh meat. Why what? I have no idea that 11 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:14,159 every thought giving to the intrusive thoughts. 12 00:01:14,879 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: Yikes, carl. 13 00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 3: Work. If that's the intrusive thoughts, what was that? Uh? 14 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: Sitting in work thinking of his intrusive thoughts are gonna 15 00:01:30,159 --> 00:01:34,079 end up winning exac Uh. Hey, everybody had ever Challenge 16 00:01:34,079 --> 00:01:37,599 by dot com, Joy the Facebook group and joy our patreon. Uh. 17 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,799 If you are a part of the Patreon, you get 18 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,200 all the episodes that we're planning on recording to night, 19 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:48,159 which is six in total. Because we're sadus. Uh, We're 20 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:50,280 gonna record all of them, put them all up on Patreon. 21 00:01:50,319 --> 00:01:53,519 That way you don't have to wait like peasants for 22 00:01:53,599 --> 00:01:56,000 them to be duled out one at a time week 23 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:00,280 to week like everybody else. So that's what you can. Yet, 24 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,319 who wants to tell me about episode five? 25 00:02:05,959 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: I do. But before we can talk about episode five, 26 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,960 we of course have to go back there in our minds. 27 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,319 This episode, called Climber's Paradise, originally aired on June twenty six, 28 00:02:18,479 --> 00:02:20,639 two thousand and six. The top TV shows at the 29 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,639 time were CSI Miami two and a half, Men, Top Movies, Cars, 30 00:02:24,759 --> 00:02:28,719 Superman Returns, and Click I mee any phone call for 31 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:37,919 my daughter denif denied. It was probably awesome, my daughter thinking. 32 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,000 Top songs hips Don't Lie, tis what you know? Jason 33 00:02:44,039 --> 00:02:47,919 Alden's Why Red Hot Chili Peppers, Danny California. Do you 34 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:55,439 guys remember that song Danny California? I don't. And notable 35 00:02:55,479 --> 00:02:56,919 events Nasau launch. 36 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: Play it you remember? 37 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 4: No? 38 00:03:00,879 --> 00:03:01,319 Speaker 1: Maybe? 39 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? Read Chili Peppers, you. 40 00:03:03,759 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: Know, sing it for me? Carlin movie he something something? 41 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,360 I remember it? Zach, Zach, you're up. 42 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:19,439 Speaker 4: I think. 43 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: It's not the beetlejuiceng. 44 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 4: I like that one, not Californication. 45 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:39,639 Speaker 1: I know Californication. And we launched the Spatial Discovery on 46 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:40,039 this date. 47 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:44,479 Speaker 3: Guys, Oh, the Spacial I thought you said Spatial discovery, 48 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,439 and that what the spatial discovery. 49 00:03:47,759 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: Carlin, it sounds like you're on the wrong mic all 50 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:53,199 of a sudden again, Okada, check check it. 51 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 3: I didn't do anything. 52 00:03:55,599 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. You sounded weird for a minute. 53 00:03:57,719 --> 00:03:58,759 Speaker 3: I'm still on the right mic. 54 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. You can check that on your own, 55 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,080 all right, I guess I can tell you. 56 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: Guys have to tell me. 57 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,439 Speaker 1: You can check on the thing the little box. What 58 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:09,759 little box you know where you check your input? 59 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,479 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's fine. I'm fine. It's what I'm still 60 00:04:13,479 --> 00:04:14,560 in life. 61 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 2: This is the song. 62 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,399 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, I know the song. Yeah, I know 63 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:23,279 that song. I guess. Well, we're back in two thousand 64 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,839 and six on our minds. So this episode starts off 65 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:29,560 with Wes and Johanna. They're swimming and like being flirty 66 00:04:29,639 --> 00:04:31,240 and gross and I don't need to see this stuff. 67 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,680 I liked this conversation though, because this also feels like 68 00:04:34,759 --> 00:04:38,560 sort of like lost in time relationship stuff where Johanna 69 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,120 was like, oh, yeah, Wes was horrible before me, but 70 00:04:41,199 --> 00:04:44,480 I've gotten him to change, and he's gonna change for me. 71 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,040 He's he loves me so much, he's gonna change for me. 72 00:04:47,759 --> 00:04:49,879 This is stuff like, we don't we don't fucking say 73 00:04:49,879 --> 00:04:52,160 this hit about relationships anymore, right, this is sort of 74 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,360 you just shouldn't talk about him like this. 75 00:04:54,519 --> 00:04:58,079 Speaker 3: We are all in our late thirties and. 76 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Forties, early forties for me, lately, we all don't. 77 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,519 Speaker 3: Say that shit anymore. But I'm like ninety nine percent 78 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,279 sure that kids still say that shit. 79 00:05:07,399 --> 00:05:08,959 Speaker 1: You think twenty you think people in their twenties are 80 00:05:08,959 --> 00:05:10,279 still like I can change him. 81 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,519 Speaker 3: Twenties will forever say shit like that. 82 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Well, they looked real stupid. 83 00:05:14,759 --> 00:05:19,879 Speaker 3: Especially women in their twenties will always say yeah. Yeah. 84 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,759 Speaker 1: The hard part is too. She's right about a lot 85 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:24,800 of their conflicts in these next two episodes, but she 86 00:05:24,959 --> 00:05:27,120 sounds she sounds real stupid in this moment. 87 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: She just sounds real stupid just in general. But you know, 88 00:05:31,199 --> 00:05:33,279 I mean, she's absolutely right, and a lot of the 89 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,240 conversations we'll see in the next episode or two, she 90 00:05:36,439 --> 00:05:40,759 is one hundred percent correct and he is one hundred 91 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:44,279 percent in the wrong. He's such a fucking dick in 92 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,360 this season. Yeah, got how much of a dick this 93 00:05:48,399 --> 00:05:49,600 man was back then? 94 00:05:50,079 --> 00:05:51,879 Speaker 1: There's something I kind of like him about being like 95 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,360 an unapologetic just fucking prick. It's I just kind of 96 00:05:55,399 --> 00:05:56,519 I'm just kind of into it. 97 00:05:56,759 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: He really is so unapologetic about it. 98 00:05:59,319 --> 00:06:00,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's. 99 00:06:01,519 --> 00:06:01,959 Speaker 2: I know it. 100 00:06:01,959 --> 00:06:02,759 Speaker 1: It's great. 101 00:06:04,959 --> 00:06:07,959 Speaker 3: Sees what he's doing and gives no shit. 102 00:06:08,439 --> 00:06:09,519 Speaker 1: Nope, doesn't care. 103 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 3: Zero fox whatsoever about the fact that he is an 104 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,120 absolute fucking dickhead. 105 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: Yep uh. We get talking heads from Tina. She feels 106 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:23,040 sorry for Johanna. She says that she's, you know, losing 107 00:06:23,079 --> 00:06:25,519 herself into Wes and she hates Wes. Wes is going 108 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,720 to take advantage of her, and blah blah blah. Tina's 109 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,959 also right about this. We know how this works out. 110 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,399 Speaker 3: Is Tina still in her twenties in this episode? 111 00:06:33,079 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: I believe so? 112 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure she is. Yeah, this is twenty years 113 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,279 ago almost. 114 00:06:38,519 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess that's true. I was thinking she might 115 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,920 be like she's probably I think she must be late twenties, 116 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:46,279 because I bet you she's seeing the like she's seeing 117 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,759 the the You know, I can change him, I can 118 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,040 be the right person for him. Thing going bitch, No 119 00:06:53,079 --> 00:06:56,800 one does that. Shit. Yeah, you can't change someone. They 120 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,560 have to want to change for themselves. Two thousand and 121 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,399 six year Come on, Zach, We're there in our minds. 122 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,639 Speaker 1: You were in a cult, my friend. How can you 123 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,720 forget the year? Wes throws himself a bit of a 124 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:14,160 pity party twenty five. Okay, so aging out of this 125 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:14,680 a little bit. 126 00:07:14,879 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, she's still young and dumb enough to make those mistakes, 127 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,879 but yeah, can call it out and her friends. 128 00:07:22,959 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: Wes is kind of feeling sorry for himself. He says, 129 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,839 their alliance is dead. All of these Austin people have 130 00:07:27,879 --> 00:07:30,160 been kicked off. He kicked them out for the most part. 131 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,639 And so really he's got one goal at this point 132 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,240 is to keep Johanna into in the game, and to 133 00:07:36,319 --> 00:07:38,800 do that, he's got to keep Johanna out of the vote. 134 00:07:39,319 --> 00:07:41,279 And so at the beginning of the episode, he says, 135 00:07:41,279 --> 00:07:43,079 this is my whole thing. I just need to stop 136 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,160 her from being voted in. 137 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, but unfortunately she's so fucking bad at this game. 138 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:49,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. 139 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 3: The moment he said this, I was like, you, you 140 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:53,519 have no chance in this, my guy. 141 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's always been bad at this game. Yes, lots 142 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,000 of flirting between Tina and Kenny. I guess I forgot 143 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,000 and that this was sort of a thing that happened 144 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,639 this season, was that they sort of had a will 145 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,439 they won't they type of situation happening. Yeah, and this 146 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,160 is where they're like doing the fake wrestling stuff at 147 00:08:09,199 --> 00:08:11,079 the pool. I remember doing this shit in my twenties. 148 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,000 It was just sort of trying to clever ways to 149 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,639 try to get girls to take their clothes off. 150 00:08:15,199 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 3: Is what kind of to get boys to like rub 151 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:18,920 up on you? Yeah? 152 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is this is twenty year old fun times. 153 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:28,399 Brought back fond memories, though, will be nothing for you. 154 00:08:28,399 --> 00:08:31,279 Speaker 2: You never wrestled another woman at a pool. 155 00:08:33,519 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: No, but there wrestling was just to get our shirt off, 156 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:38,639 which eventually happened. 157 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,039 Speaker 2: Sure. You gotta remember I was dating my ex wife 158 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,679 when I was like twenty six. 159 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,759 Speaker 1: But you and I had You and I were at 160 00:08:47,879 --> 00:08:50,399 the same party where we The thing was to get 161 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,600 girls tops off, and we did it. Remember they ran 162 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,279 around the building topless. It was awesome though. No, we 163 00:08:56,279 --> 00:08:58,639 were in the middle of We're in the New Year's 164 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:04,399 Eve party and they're topless outside. Sweet. That was my 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,559 buddy Alan's sister. Yeah, I saw his girlfriend and his 166 00:09:08,639 --> 00:09:09,639 sister's boobs the same night. 167 00:09:09,639 --> 00:09:12,039 Speaker 2: It was like that poor guy I didn't see they 168 00:09:12,039 --> 00:09:13,840 were covering him and ran so. 169 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,639 Speaker 1: Bummer for you. All right, guys, they gotta you lucky, you, 170 00:09:20,799 --> 00:09:25,440 lucky son of a bitch. I don't do that stuff anymore, 171 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,759 but it brought back memories, you know, in my youth. 172 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,919 So if he reads the clue and I want to 173 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:36,159 get high, is the clue? So clever wolf, he's loving. 174 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: This o' mine net kurts. Sorry, I'm just. 175 00:09:40,799 --> 00:09:40,919 Speaker 3: Uh. 176 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: And with that, we are on to the challenge. All right, 177 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:50,759 So this one is called Climber's Paradise. They're basically scaling 178 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:53,240 a wall. It's twenty five feet tall. There's pegs that 179 00:09:53,279 --> 00:09:56,639 have different shapes on them, and they need to communicate 180 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:59,600 with their partner to tell them which shaped spiky posty 181 00:09:59,639 --> 00:10:01,919 thing they need. They've got to get up this wall 182 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:04,080 in less than ten minutes or they're disqualified. Also, if 183 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,799 you fall off here, disqualified? Anything else said about this game, guys. 184 00:10:08,879 --> 00:10:12,639 Speaker 2: This was boring as fuck. And who couldn't climb this 185 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:16,799 in ten minutes? Well, Tina, you could easily climb this 186 00:10:16,919 --> 00:10:18,200 in ten minutes, no problem. 187 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. 188 00:10:18,879 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: Did Joanna fail at it a lot? 189 00:10:22,039 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah? 190 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 2: People failed at it? 191 00:10:23,639 --> 00:10:26,799 Speaker 1: Yep. Jesse and Johanna were first, and they failed immediately. 192 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,200 Wes seemed to think of. Johannah just couldn't get that 193 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:34,399 last little bit up and Jesse wasn't strong enough to 194 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:38,679 help her. So yeah, they didn't do it. And then Tina, 195 00:10:38,759 --> 00:10:41,039 I don't I still understand exactly what apple, Tina? Do 196 00:10:41,039 --> 00:10:42,519 you guys get a better picture of this? How did 197 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,080 Tina fall off so fucking quickly? 198 00:10:46,799 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: I was at work and I heard her go oh shit, 199 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,399 and I looked over and she had fallen off. 200 00:10:51,399 --> 00:10:53,519 Speaker 3: So I don't Yeah, it. 201 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: Was seconds in. I mean, I don't think she made 202 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:56,080 it up one thing. 203 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: And I think I think she just like lost her balance. 204 00:10:59,519 --> 00:11:04,120 I am entirely sure, but yeah, it was almost instantly. 205 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: Yep. And then uh yeah, Tina has thrown herself a 206 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,320 pity party, like why does this always happen? 207 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:12,519 Speaker 4: Now? 208 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,799 Speaker 1: We look like a weak team. 209 00:11:14,279 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 3: Because I don't understand why Tina keeps thinking that. There 210 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,480 are so many people in this season especially who think 211 00:11:20,519 --> 00:11:23,799 that they are so good at this game, and Tina 212 00:11:23,799 --> 00:11:26,960 and Tanya are the two like number ones on the like, oh, 213 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,919 we're so good at this game. Why does this happen 214 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,879 to me? Like I could win this whole thing? How 215 00:11:33,919 --> 00:11:35,720 are you two so delusional? 216 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: We still have that with Anissa. Anissa still plays that 217 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:39,960 role in this in this show. 218 00:11:40,759 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 2: Don't worry, we still have more Tina to come in 219 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,279 the next couple. 220 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's hard to take this season. 221 00:11:46,039 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 4: I don't care why Tanya's so confident, but I do 222 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,919 kind of get the Tina thing because back then there's 223 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,360 a lot less athletic and she's probably that like Coral, 224 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,120 mean girl click that was like running all the seasons. 225 00:11:56,159 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: Politically, she definitely did that, Yes she did, but she 226 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,440 was I mean, I always knew she was a bad 227 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,679 competitor because remembers it was it was next season the 228 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:08,960 duel that she gets out for punching Beth and then 229 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:13,120 they bring her back as the as the Mercenary and 230 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,440 during cutthroat the same time they brought ct back, remember, 231 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,559 and I was like this bullshit because because Tina sucks 232 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,600 and she's not gonna win these eliminations, and she didn't. 233 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,360 She didn't win either of her eliminations that she did 234 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,039 that night as a Mercenary or whatever. She's always been terrible 235 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,480 the game. But yes, I think you're out your rightsack. Politically, 236 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,240 she's been very good. 237 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, politically she's always been great until you know, she 238 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,559 came back in the in the more recent seasons where 239 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,919 they put her with you know, new players, and she's 240 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,600 still trying to play the game that she played in 241 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,960 the early two thousands, and her political game is just 242 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,240 not a car anymore. But yeah, I mean, I don't 243 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,720 understand why she thinks physically she can compete with these 244 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,000 because I feel like this is kind of there's still 245 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,120 very much like a lot of carnival games, but this 246 00:12:56,159 --> 00:12:59,320 is kind of when the more physical side of the 247 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:04,679 challenge started coming in and it really started to show 248 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,320 that you have to have the physicality in order to 249 00:13:07,399 --> 00:13:09,120 actually be able to win this game. 250 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:15,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, that's right. We get a shot of Casey 251 00:13:15,919 --> 00:13:18,639 putting one of those handles in her mouth to get 252 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,080 up the wall. Nothing important about that, It's just I 253 00:13:21,159 --> 00:13:24,320 just liked seeing that. I like that. You guys will 254 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,600 fee zach, you guys get a get a shot of that. 255 00:13:27,159 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 4: I didn't hate it, dark Hair. 256 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,399 Speaker 1: I know there was something about her back then and 257 00:13:33,519 --> 00:13:35,879 still now, like she's just so cute. She's just so 258 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,720 fucking cute, Like there's something about her that does it 259 00:13:38,799 --> 00:13:42,799 for me. She's spunky, she's spunky, she's got a fun attitude, 260 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,200 and yeah, she's just very cute. 261 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: I just think you like it because what skills at 262 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:48,519 her all the time. 263 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,759 Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. I have some quotes that Wes said 264 00:13:52,759 --> 00:13:57,399 about Casey this challenge. She said, she did horrible, but 265 00:13:57,399 --> 00:13:59,440 I didn't expect her to do well. She can't even 266 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,960 get down to athleticism. I guess he said that about 267 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,120 Johannah still, and then about Casey he said, Casey's not 268 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,279 very smart and she's got a lot of disadvantages. 269 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 3: That's like, I know that we discussed this in one 270 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:16,000 of the previous episodes, but it really does make me wonder, like, 271 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,679 why the fuck did you pick Casey if you dislike 272 00:14:19,799 --> 00:14:22,279 her so much? Like, if you think that she's so 273 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,240 bad at this game, why did you choose her? 274 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great. 275 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,279 Speaker 3: Because it was it was what between her. I think 276 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:30,840 it was between her and Dim when he was making 277 00:14:30,879 --> 00:14:31,600 his choice. 278 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that. 279 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, guys, I want to talk about this Shonda thing. 280 00:14:42,759 --> 00:14:46,639 Is that right, Shanda? Is that Theo's partner Shandau She 281 00:14:46,759 --> 00:14:49,639 drops a peg and then because of that, she has 282 00:14:49,679 --> 00:14:52,799 to climb without the assistance of this peg. Struggles. Looks 283 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,679 to me like she fell off that wall and THEO 284 00:14:54,799 --> 00:14:57,399 caught her and pulled her back up. What counts as 285 00:14:57,399 --> 00:14:57,759 a fall? 286 00:14:57,840 --> 00:14:58,039 Speaker 2: Here? 287 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: Why did that not count as a fall? I don't 288 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,679 get it, you guys get it. 289 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 3: Didn't she still have I thought she still had one hand. 290 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:06,039 I could be wrong. 291 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: M she kind of swings out just by her hand. 292 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 4: That. 293 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like that's a fall. I don't know. 294 00:15:16,679 --> 00:15:20,919 I don't know why that was allowed to remember, from 295 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,960 what I remember, she was free swinging. The only thing 296 00:15:23,039 --> 00:15:25,519 that was touching was her hand in theo's hand. 297 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,519 Speaker 3: So maybe it's just if you fall all the way 298 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:30,840 to the bottom, like not just like off. If you 299 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,759 if you're able to catch yourself up there, it doesn't 300 00:15:33,799 --> 00:15:36,519 count as a fall. But if you come down and off. 301 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,559 Speaker 1: Man, I didn't like it. Again, I didn't like this. 302 00:15:42,279 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: I mean, but again, this is one of those things 303 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:48,440 that we have said multiple times in multiple seasons. There 304 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:51,279 is always some unfairness in this game, and yeah, this 305 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,120 feels like it kind of it sits in that category. 306 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:58,639 Speaker 1: Yep, this felt weird to me. Ultimately doesn't matter because 307 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,879 Coral and Evan win it. They've been winning everything. They 308 00:16:01,879 --> 00:16:07,240 win it by ten full seconds, and you know, everybody 309 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,039 kind of expects it. I guess, and there's no big 310 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,200 deal about that. But Wes immediately goes to Chorl and says, hey, 311 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,799 do you a favorite Pick a Week team? Any team 312 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,799 other than Johanna, and I will vote myself in at 313 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:23,919 nominations and that'll be that. But Wes isn't offering anything politically. 314 00:16:23,919 --> 00:16:26,480 What does he what's his strategy here? What's he doing? 315 00:16:27,559 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 3: It's flailing, he's it's It's like he thought he had 316 00:16:35,399 --> 00:16:38,159 a plan and he thought he had some leverage because 317 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,000 he thinks he's so good at this game, which yes, 318 00:16:41,039 --> 00:16:42,639 he is good at this game, but he thinks he's 319 00:16:42,639 --> 00:16:44,120 so good at this game and is good enough to 320 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,879 be able to warrant to just them doing what he 321 00:16:47,919 --> 00:16:51,200 wants them to. It was weird. You don't have any 322 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,000 political play. You and your teammate because you are attached 323 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,720 to her have lost every single season, every single game. 324 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,159 I don't know. It was just weird. 325 00:17:01,919 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very weird. Maybe Wess is still learning 326 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:05,839 how to do the politics. You think this is his 327 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,559 first season after all, so we'll give him a little. 328 00:17:10,079 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 4: Wes sucks at the politics game. This is just here's 329 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,599 my thoughts. He still plays the same game the problem 330 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,240 is he always aligns with newbies so they're dumb enough 331 00:17:19,279 --> 00:17:21,519 to fall for stuff like that. You can never work 332 00:17:21,519 --> 00:17:24,119 with the veterans because they just are like, Wes, you're dumb. 333 00:17:24,759 --> 00:17:27,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right, And that's always why Wes does 334 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:32,160 his best. After a long break, then, yeah, they're already 335 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,599 onto his game this season. The only thing keeping min 336 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,319 is because he's good at the eliminations. 337 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really good at yelling and his partner. 338 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,599 Speaker 4: But I do wonder if that's going back to what 339 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,119 was that trailer about why he picked Casey. I wonder 340 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:46,960 if that's part of it. If he thought like, well, 341 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,119 if I picked the weakest girl, they'll be like, well, 342 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,039 we could get rid of them whenever. They're a layup team, 343 00:17:51,079 --> 00:17:52,519 so we'll just like drag them along. 344 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 345 00:17:54,759 --> 00:17:57,599 Speaker 3: We don't know that he had the wherewithal at that 346 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,599 point in time to understand that he would be a 347 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,960 layer or to think that he would be a layup 348 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,839 just thinking. Yeah. I mean I know that I was 349 00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:10,160 the one who asked why did he pick her? But 350 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:11,720 I feel like part of the reason why he picked 351 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,440 hers because he felt like he could manipulate her. 352 00:18:14,079 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's part of it, tell her this. 353 00:18:16,839 --> 00:18:18,319 Speaker 3: Is what we're doing, this is how we're doing it, 354 00:18:18,319 --> 00:18:19,880 and she would go along with it because she was 355 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,119 so bad at everything. And then he could potentially just 356 00:18:23,319 --> 00:18:26,400 carry her, literally carry her if he needed to, because 357 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,920 she's not a very big person. Granted, most of the 358 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,880 women on these shows are not very big people. 359 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: I think that's one hundred percent. And I also think 360 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:34,960 he was doing the math of like, if I can 361 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,920 do well with Casey, I'm gonna look like a fucking 362 00:18:37,039 --> 00:18:40,359 rock star out here. So I think that was all. 363 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,279 That was all. It was all part of that. Uh 364 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:48,759 So after that, Wes talks to Johanna and basically says, like, Hey, 365 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:50,400 here's the deal. My plan's not gonna work. They're gonna 366 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,160 throw me into exile. So at the vote, you have 367 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,680 to go in there and you have to say these 368 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,640 things and you have to act this way and try 369 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,039 to get the vote onto somebody else. Johanna basically says, now, 370 00:19:01,079 --> 00:19:02,720 I'm not gonna They're not gonna change their minds, so 371 00:19:02,759 --> 00:19:04,200 I'm not gonna bother doing that, and they have a 372 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,640 big fight about this. Where's everybody at on the fight, 373 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,720 like who's Obviously Wes was out of line on where 374 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,000 he went with it, But was he right about strategy? 375 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,400 Did he did? He should? She should Johanna have given 376 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:16,359 a little attention to this. 377 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 3: Yes, I think she absolutely should have at least attempted 378 00:19:20,599 --> 00:19:23,599 to try to change some minds and maybe she would 379 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,839 have gotten one or two people. Yeah, Ultimately she probably 380 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,359 wasn't going to get anyone to really change their minds, 381 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,640 and she was probably still going in regardless. But you 382 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,640 look so fucking weak if you don't even attempt to 383 00:19:36,799 --> 00:19:42,160 try to like change anyone's minds. It's just it's this 384 00:19:42,279 --> 00:19:44,279 is one of those games. And we've said it again 385 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,200 episodes before and seasons passed that this is a game 386 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,319 where people are not just playing for this season, they're 387 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,200 playing for future seasons. And even if she's not playing 388 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,480 that way, people are gonna look at it that way, 389 00:19:56,559 --> 00:20:01,000 like you gave up. You just let us do whatever 390 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:04,640 you want, whatever we wanted, and he didn't even try to, 391 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,240 you know, say anything. Instead. 392 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 4: Yep, I think she should have put up a fight. 393 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,160 You know, I think Wes was right there. I don't 394 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,400 think his strategy of going in there basically like strong 395 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,400 arming them and threatening them was a way to go. 396 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:21,839 She should have like thought, but she should have been 397 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,400 like I will be your puppet, like I would do 398 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,119 whatever you want, like use me to further your own game. 399 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely agree with that. His Wes thinking that 400 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,480 he can strong I am everybody into what he wants 401 00:20:35,519 --> 00:20:36,000 them to do. 402 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: Is in this season, the correct answer is in between 403 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,000 both of them. Yeah, like she wants to do something, 404 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,960 but maybe going in and being like, obviously my team 405 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,319 is not a threat. You think like me and Wes 406 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,039 have this big alliance, but let's be honest, neither one 407 00:20:55,039 --> 00:20:58,319 of us are gonna be in charge to do anything, 408 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,359 So why get rid of me now? You can get 409 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,000 rid of me later. 410 00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:04,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that would have been a really good 411 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,720 argument for Johanna to make, and one that she could 412 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,000 have made like in Earnest and and like done that 413 00:21:09,079 --> 00:21:11,039 her way. Yeah, she should have done something. I think 414 00:21:11,039 --> 00:21:13,599 that's a good salesman, a good sales pitch for her. 415 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:16,559 But that was not what Wes was selling and that 416 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,640 was not what Johannah did. And yeah that's uh, you 417 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,279 know that's how that worked out. 418 00:21:22,279 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 419 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: Wes keeps flailing because like what else is he gonna do? 420 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,440 So now he just starts threatening people on behalf of 421 00:21:28,519 --> 00:21:30,359 Johanna saying like, hey, if you vote her in, I'm 422 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,920 coming for you next, which is sort of like fucking 423 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,640 there's one winner, dude, Like you're coming for all of 424 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:35,720 us in theory, so. 425 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: Like that, well, coming for each other. It may not 426 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,480 be happening right now, but. 427 00:21:40,079 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's one of those things that like, so what dude, 428 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,920 Like you know, like I know you're coming for me. 429 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,000 We're coming for you too, Like that's how this game works. 430 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 3: I don't know that I hadn't necessarily fault him for 431 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:54,079 this because literally, in every single season, at least half 432 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,599 of the crew does this exact same kind of shit. Yeah, 433 00:21:57,599 --> 00:22:00,240 they're just like, oh, I can't believe that you did 434 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:04,359 that against me, Like I'm coming for you now, you know. Yeah, 435 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,680 there's only ever one winner. What are you talking about. 436 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,599 Everybody is always going to go against each other. It 437 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:10,759 may not be right now. 438 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:15,599 Speaker 2: But yeah, so much when Johnny Bananas is like, well, 439 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,000 you know, you're trying to get me eliminated, and everybody's like. 440 00:22:18,079 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the game. Yeah, I want everybody to be 441 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:29,240 eliminated except me. That's how this game works. Yeah. All right, 442 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:32,599 So anyway, so we're back at nominations. I believe people 443 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:37,559 say my name bitch. We see some cracks start to 444 00:22:37,599 --> 00:22:41,599 form in the vote. Johanna in sentiment around the house 445 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,000 and that Katie feels bad. She's like, this is kind 446 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,200 of fucked up. Guys, that they just had this big 447 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,759 blowout fight and now we're gonna send in boyfriend and 448 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:50,519 girlfriend against each other. Like that's kind of fucked up. 449 00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:54,319 We should do something else. There's some talk about changing 450 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,480 the vote, but ultimately those talks fall flat. There is 451 00:22:57,519 --> 00:23:01,839 no vote changing, and Johanna and Jesse, everybody votes that 452 00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:04,400 way except for THEO weirdly who votes another way, and 453 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:05,079 I don't get that. 454 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a little strange, but because Casey brought 455 00:23:09,799 --> 00:23:13,039 up the whole, like, you know, I feel a little 456 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:17,240 bad about this. Like if Johanna had gone in and 457 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,400 like really played on that fact, like really played you know, 458 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,119 I'm not a threat. We're like we want to be here, 459 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,839 but you know, we can help other teams, like any 460 00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:30,799 if she had tried to play that card, she may 461 00:23:30,839 --> 00:23:34,400 have actually gotten some people on her side, Like there 462 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,039 was an actual chance, I mean not necessarily that she 463 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:41,559 wouldn't go in, but yeah, that not everybody would vote 464 00:23:41,559 --> 00:23:42,000 for her. 465 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: This season was also one of those that was very 466 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,480 It's one one of the early ones where it's very 467 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,799 about like whether you deserve it or not. It's very 468 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,599 much about who's a stronger competitor and shit like that 469 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,119 matters less now. But yeah, I think that there's a 470 00:23:56,319 --> 00:23:57,960 very easy case to be made of, like why are 471 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,920 you throwing in two week teams against each other? We 472 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,880 gest of the hout. You're putting the two weakest against 473 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,680 each other. That's crazy. You should save one of us 474 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,960 for later. But again, yeah, that's maybe they weren't ready 475 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,680 to make that argument at the moment. Uh. We see 476 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,799 Wes talking to Danny on the phone. These are these 477 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:17,400 weird things of like how do you get the phone? 478 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,480 This is fucking weird. He's just talking to his buddy 479 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,640 back home, who's like, was it it just in the game? 480 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: You know? 481 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: Kind of fucking weird. 482 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,519 Speaker 3: Well, they're not really back home. They're in the hotel sitting, 483 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,319 you know, forty five minutes away from where they're currently at. 484 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,599 Speaker 1: Well maybe, but still it's like they're out of the game. 485 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,680 Couldn't they technically like help them cheat in the game 486 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,279 and shit like that. I don't know it feels weird. Uh, 487 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,440 this is the wild West of reality TV, guys. 488 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 3: It's definitely and it happens in a lot of the 489 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,119 episodes where they're talking to various different people. 490 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is weird. But Wes is talking to Danny, 491 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,440 he says like, yeah, I'm gonna have to fucking send 492 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,400 my girlfriend home. It's kind of weird. 493 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 494 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: And Johanna's crying yeah I don't know, yeah again Uh. 495 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,559 And Coral is talking to Johanna trying to get her 496 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,839 fired up to beat him in the exile. And that's 497 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,839 where the episode ends. That's it. That's it. I know 498 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,319 the next episode is where they actually exile happens. But 499 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,200 let's let's touch on it now. Guys. If you were 500 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,640 going into exile against your boyfriend slash girlfriend, do you 501 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,519 throw it? 502 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 3: Is it your obligation to throw it? No? 503 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: How do you is the do you decide before and 504 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,440 who wins? Or do you really just say like, hey, 505 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,200 we're gonna fucking go for it. We're gonna battle it 506 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,880 out in their best best person wins. 507 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: I'd be more pissed if they didn't go for it. 508 00:25:37,519 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 3: Same. Really, we came on a literal reality TV show 509 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:49,400 about playing an actual game that we knew going in 510 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,920 we were not going to be able to win, like 511 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,400 that there was a very slim chance that we would 512 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,759 be able to win it together. So like they knew 513 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,880 going into this that only one of them would be 514 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,240 able to take home that prize. Even if they came 515 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,680 in first and second, only one of them was taking 516 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,640 home the first prize. So it just it. Yeah, if 517 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,880 you have the chance to win and fucking go for it, 518 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,359 and I like, I wish you luck. I will see 519 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,680 you back at home. Joanna cries way too fucking much, 520 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,519 so clearly she doesn't give a shit. 521 00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:25,519 Speaker 1: But would there really be no complicated feelings about like, oh, 522 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:27,920 they just fucking they just smoked me in this thing. 523 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000 They just fucking smoked embarrassed me. 524 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,319 Speaker 3: So I I mean, I wouldn't think of them as 525 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:38,240 embarrassing me. They like, yeah, they beat me. That sucks. 526 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,920 I am not very good at this game. 527 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would do approach a little bit different because 528 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,079 I would be open to turn it, but I would 529 00:26:46,079 --> 00:26:50,519 meet with my partner before the challenge to be like, Okay, realistically, 530 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,160 which one of us has a better chance to deal 531 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,279 all the way in and win the money and that's 532 00:26:55,319 --> 00:26:57,279 the person who isshed to continue, because at the end 533 00:26:57,319 --> 00:26:59,559 of the day, while we're together, if you win, I win, 534 00:26:59,839 --> 00:27:00,599 and vice versa. 535 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,559 Speaker 1: Yeah. We saw a version of that on Survivor right 536 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:08,400 with Kat and what's his nuts? The fucking guy had Hayden. 537 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,880 Uh well, yeah, it was gonna be one of them, 538 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,680 and they had this talk and he's just like, hey, 539 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,519 I'm probably gonna be more likely to win it, and 540 00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:17,400 she's like, yeah, you're right, I should probably go home. 541 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,000 Uh that seemed reasonable, and this does too. Frankly, this 542 00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:24,200 seems like very adult like the way that Wes and 543 00:27:24,279 --> 00:27:27,720 Johann are handling it. Coral Is is, Uh, maybe she's 544 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:31,440 just doing it to make everybody feel shitty, but it 545 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,440 feels a little. 546 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,319 Speaker 3: Weirding it to rile them up. 547 00:27:34,839 --> 00:27:36,799 Speaker 1: Do you don't think she's feeling this way that he 548 00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:37,480 should throw. 549 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: She's doing it to rile them up, to try and 550 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,799 get especially Wes off his game, to be like, you're 551 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,039 such a dick for you know, sending you know, for 552 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,599 going in against your girlfriend, and you've been a dick 553 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,880 about all kinds of other things. You think that you 554 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,400 would actually care enough to, you know, let your girlfriends 555 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,519 stay like she's doing it to rile him up. She 556 00:27:57,519 --> 00:27:59,839 doesn't give a shit if they win, either one of 557 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,720 them went home, or if they went against each other. 558 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,599 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know what Coral's motivations are, but 559 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,480 it does seem like there's a sentiment of that in 560 00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:10,200 the house, just sort of an undercurrent of Western sort 561 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,920 of let Johanna win this one. 562 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: They an't want him to go home. Yeah, they all 563 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,359 think he's an absolute jackass. I'm not surprised that they're 564 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,079 trying to tell them, Oh, you should just throw it 565 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,200 and let your girlfriends stay here. They also know that 566 00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:27,640 if they keep Joanna there's a much higher chance that 567 00:28:27,839 --> 00:28:31,839 she's going to go home next because she's not good 568 00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:35,200 at this game, and he's proving more and more that 569 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:35,640 he is. 570 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,079 Speaker 1: Yep, Zachie, anything to add. 571 00:28:43,319 --> 00:28:45,799 Speaker 4: I mean, if that's so, we just have the post 572 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:46,400 credit scene. 573 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 3: If any of you guys. 574 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:49,279 Speaker 1: Watched that, oh yeah, what's up? 575 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: So the post credit scene, we saw THEO who had 576 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,079 one of the girl's dresses, not sure whose dress it was, 577 00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:58,799 trying to put it on and it would not fit him. 578 00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:02,200 Then Big Easy walks by and he's like, Easy, I 579 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,680 can't fit in this let's see if you can, which 580 00:29:04,759 --> 00:29:08,480 obviously didn't work out well. And then they ran off 581 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,160 to go find uh Johanna's partner to get him to 582 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,039 wear and they're like running around the house looking for like, 583 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,279 we need you put on this dress. And that's the 584 00:29:16,319 --> 00:29:16,720 end of it. 585 00:29:17,279 --> 00:29:17,599 Speaker 2: Mhm. 586 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,519 Speaker 1: And it was Jesse that that dropped the slut line 587 00:29:21,559 --> 00:29:22,519 from last episode. 588 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,319 Speaker 4: I believe it was Jesse. But yes, this. 589 00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: Guy sucks, like guy sucks. I just hate Jesse. I 590 00:29:30,319 --> 00:29:31,200 just hate him. 591 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,599 Speaker 4: I'm too big for this dress. Easy, can you put 592 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:34,079 into it? 593 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,319 Speaker 1: Yeah? I can't like THEO. I can't. I can't bring 594 00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:39,039 myself to like him. 595 00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: Now. 596 00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:44,559 Speaker 1: He's a he's a fascist. Choked a guy at a 597 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:48,160 bar for talking to him Theovanda. Yeah, oh that's kind 598 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,240 of cool, right, I changed my mind. That's kind of cool. 599 00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 2: That's kind of a badass thing. Tried to come up 600 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:55,640 to him and talk to him. 601 00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: And he's just it choked him, like how the bug 602 00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:58,680 gets the wall. 603 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,319 Speaker 2: No, it was now ball h. 604 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:08,839 Speaker 1: That's it's kind of kind of cool, though, that's wrong 605 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,920 with you, Tim, He's got a kind of cool. It's 606 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,599 kind of cool. I think it's a badass. 607 00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 3: He fucking choked that guy out. 608 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, his face looks like a fetal alcohol syndroom face too. 609 00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 2: Hey, everybody ever challenge Also joining a Patreon. People when 610 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,319 they joined a Patreon. 611 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 4: Uh. 612 00:30:31,119 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: Wait, what it was you Carling? Alright, So patrons, it's 613 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,680 five bucks a month, guys, and you get pre shows 614 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,200 after shows. If you thought that choke was bad, you 615 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:41,960 should hear what we talked about in the after shows. 616 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,960 Colin's the worst. Also as Wolf, he said, you get 617 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,119 all these batches, all these episodes in batches. We record 618 00:30:49,119 --> 00:30:51,160 a lot of them all the same time, and we 619 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,079 say your name. So thank you to Elena, Alvin, Ana, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, 620 00:30:55,119 --> 00:30:59,720 Emily my girlfriend, another Emily, Greg Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jamie, Julie, Maverick, Patty, 621 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,319 Peter Rowlden Ryan, Samuel, Sarah's got shack, shake our smile, 622 00:31:03,359 --> 00:31:04,640 and Jack stan Anstone. 623 00:31:05,759 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: Thank you guys. 624 00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:11,759 Speaker 2: Did you sort that list correctly? Because I noticed we 625 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:17,759 lost about four or five people there are Patreon money 626 00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:18,839 this this month. 627 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,559 Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, Well, listen, here's a flashback episodes. You know, 628 00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:27,400 if people don't listen to you, but we love you. 629 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: Most of you. 630 00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: Tim, I'm with you. I had to go look up 631 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,079 the details of this choking, but I'm on board. 632 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:38,799 Speaker 1: That's kind of kind of badass, Zach. 633 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:39,799 Speaker 2: Do you have any social. 634 00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 4: Media wait, socia, We didn't. 635 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,319 Speaker 2: Olivia and THEO announced they're having a baby different. Zach 636 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,160 went on and on about it in the check group. 637 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I got announced literally this morning. 638 00:31:56,759 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 4: Get to social media from twenty years ago. 639 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: Now, I'm with you, Zach. That's what I thought we 640 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,880 were going with that. We're on modern social media that 641 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,640 didn't exist back in two thousand and six in our minds. 642 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:11,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, Facebook was released in two thousand and five. There 643 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,599 was no social media back then. 644 00:32:13,119 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: And Zach and I are you all can fuck off 645 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:16,319 my space. 646 00:32:17,599 --> 00:32:19,119 Speaker 1: I'm just saying Zach and I were the only ones 647 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,799 that were in our minds in two thousand and six. 648 00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:34,880 Still it was still Mussolini, Hitler, Yeah, all the fascists, 649 00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:36,079 all the pricks. 650 00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 2: All right, thanks for hanging out with us. For another 651 00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:46,440 episode of Fresh Meat, head over to Challenge dot dot 652 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:48,400 com joining the Facebook group. You can also join our 653 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:54,440 Patreon whatever. All right. For this episode of Challenge has 654 00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:00,400 been Brian Big Sweet, Carlo san Diego, Zachi Bananas, and 655 00:33:00,559 --> 00:33:03,640 as I'm sure West probably said you dumb bitch. 656 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: No, not this episode. 657 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: Chalie in tatter