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<v Speaker 1>This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Ravera on

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<v Speaker 1>Your most Prized Possessions.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope everybody stuck with us. We were back for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. Let me just give you a schedule here.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only about three forty three something like that. We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to try to get ahold of Rocky the Rose

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<v Speaker 2>we had around for a brief moment earlier before we

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<v Speaker 2>went to two technical difficulties. But we'll get her back

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone and talk more about Cedric Dempsey and

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<v Speaker 2>the passing of Cedric over the weekend and what impact

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<v Speaker 2>he had at the u of A that Dave and

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<v Speaker 2>I both dealt with him, and what a great man

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<v Speaker 2>I posted over the weekend. I think you saund for well,

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<v Speaker 2>you saw you. He was already here, Dave Race just

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<v Speaker 2>for a few minutes. Yeah, you know, you know I

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<v Speaker 2>was going to bring this up with Rocky.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there was a so I went to San

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<v Speaker 3>Diego State and there was a brief moment where he

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<v Speaker 3>was the athletic director there before he went to Houston.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember, I think I was an intern in the

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<v Speaker 3>TV station in the late seventies and they had a

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<v Speaker 3>big news conference introducing the new athletic director, Cedric Dempsen.

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<v Speaker 3>He was there, and he was there less than a year,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe even like six months. And I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>he saw the writing on the wall, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>eventually SDSU would would would join, would would move up

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<v Speaker 3>into a different conference. But at the time they were

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<v Speaker 3>in the PCAA yeah, yeah, and they eventually got to

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<v Speaker 3>the whack when Arizona made the move, all this and that.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, he was there really briefly for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he shows up in Tucson just before I

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<v Speaker 3>got here. So we basically again I've kind of told

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<v Speaker 3>the story a million times about how Lute and I

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<v Speaker 3>got here the same year.

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<v Speaker 4>I also got here the same year as so you

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<v Speaker 4>were part of that magic. It must have been me.

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<v Speaker 4>It had to have been Rocky is issue Rocky?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Hello, we're back. I hopefully will stay with you

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<v Speaker 2>for a while. We were talking. We were talking off

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<v Speaker 2>the air. We thought you were on the air. But

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<v Speaker 2>let me take us back again to eighty three, eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two on the air and just just the situation back

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<v Speaker 2>then when Cedric came aboard.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was a pretty remarkable time. I remember it

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<v Speaker 5>honestly like it was yesterday, said got hired. At the time,

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<v Speaker 5>the women's department and the men's departments were totally separate physically.

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<v Speaker 5>The women were over in in a getting building and

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<v Speaker 5>the men were in McHale. And even though the women

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<v Speaker 5>sort of reported partially to the athletic director, which would

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<v Speaker 5>have been Dave Strack and to the president's office, there

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<v Speaker 5>was momentum to merge the programs and said did that literally,

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<v Speaker 5>Like I think the first day he was there, there

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<v Speaker 5>was discussions between Mary Robie and myself and the next thing,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we're packing up our banks and moving to

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<v Speaker 5>Okale the sales center.

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<v Speaker 2>So let me ask you what was his reputation before

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<v Speaker 2>he got here, because you know, you have you hires

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<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you say, oh, this is great or what

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<v Speaker 4>was the thought?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it actually was because and that the University of Arizona,

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<v Speaker 5>so people knew him around the campus, and so there

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<v Speaker 5>was a lot of excitement. Actually, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 5>pretty tough on him because he he has just I

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<v Speaker 5>think he'd been in Houston less than a year and

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<v Speaker 5>he accepted the Arizona job. So that was a pretty

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<v Speaker 5>brave move for him back then.

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<v Speaker 2>If I remember too in my books, uh, I think

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you mentioned you broke up a little. He was

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<v Speaker 2>an assistant for Larson back in the day.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, assistant basketball coach, that's right, for the University

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<v Speaker 5>of Arizona coach Larson.

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<v Speaker 4>So he knew.

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<v Speaker 2>He knew all about Arizona from back in the day

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<v Speaker 2>bear down and all that.

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<v Speaker 5>He sure did. Yeah, he was. He said, this was

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<v Speaker 5>his first choice to come back to. He loved Tucson,

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<v Speaker 5>he loved the University of Arizona, the campus. Uh So

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<v Speaker 5>he was anxious to get back.

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<v Speaker 3>Plus he went to the same university or same college

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<v Speaker 3>as pot McHale.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, I mean that's I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, isn't that?

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<v Speaker 5>The Star and Davey too, They all three of them

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<v Speaker 5>went to Albion, which is where where is that axe?

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<v Speaker 4>Does anybody? Yeah? Okay, yeah, I know, so I know

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<v Speaker 4>you were posted him.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually posted a photo of you guys with me

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<v Speaker 2>and my other show back in the day.

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<v Speaker 4>How did this hit you?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? You know, it's a man. It just takes you

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<v Speaker 5>back to First of all, how grateful I am for

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<v Speaker 5>him and forgiving me the opportunities he did for what

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<v Speaker 5>he did for the University of Arizona, which is our love, right,

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<v Speaker 5>and the athletic department and this community, and so all

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<v Speaker 5>those memories just come flooding back. They truly do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a sad day. But he lived a long, happy, fruitful,

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<v Speaker 5>rewarding life, and so that I think we're all grateful.

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<v Speaker 4>And he was a tough dude. He was a tough dude.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say this, you know, you never kind of

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<v Speaker 2>just because he was a nice guy, and nice guys

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<v Speaker 2>are what they are. But he you know, survived cancer

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<v Speaker 2>and two or three times, right, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Just a tough Oh more than that, he is a

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<v Speaker 5>tough dude. You're absolutely right. What a remarkable human being.

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<v Speaker 5>He Actually, one of the last times I talked to him,

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<v Speaker 5>he had added up that he had been in chemotherapy

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<v Speaker 5>over nine years of his life, off and on over

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<v Speaker 5>his life. Isn't that something? Yeah? Amazing, amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about his role with the NC double A because

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<v Speaker 3>that was a big deal when he got that job.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know if you watched the women's

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<v Speaker 3>game yesterday, but they did a moment of silence for

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<v Speaker 3>him right before the National anthem, So you know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>obviously remembered at the NCUBA level. How important was he

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<v Speaker 3>to that organization?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, well, I mean, if you'll note at halftime today

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<v Speaker 5>in the men's game, they're going to give him a

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<v Speaker 5>lifetime achievement of more So, how amazing is that they

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<v Speaker 5>had hoped they'd actually had selected him almost a year ago,

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<v Speaker 5>but had planned to do it at Final four, which

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<v Speaker 5>is kind of just a heartwarming because one of Said's

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<v Speaker 5>favorite times of the year was the Final four. So

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<v Speaker 5>it's very touching. But well, you know, we always knew

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<v Speaker 5>Said had an interest in national I mean, he always

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<v Speaker 5>wanted to be on an NCAA committee, He always wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to lead an NCAA committee. He loved legislation because he

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<v Speaker 5>knew that was the foundation of where athletics grew or

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<v Speaker 5>at least went in the right direction as he saw it.

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<v Speaker 5>So we always knew he had an interest, And yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it was wonderful because he was an athletic director, he

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<v Speaker 5>had been there, and for him to be the executive

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<v Speaker 5>director president of the NCAA having been on a campus

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<v Speaker 5>was really I think what a lot of the athletic

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<v Speaker 5>directors and presidents quite frankly of the universities were hoping for.

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<v Speaker 2>He when talked without the South the year, he had

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of secret sauce to him. Right, he brings

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<v Speaker 2>in the big domino that led to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>other dominoes.

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<v Speaker 5>That's right, Yeah, you know that. I talked about the

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<v Speaker 5>first move, which was moving the women over into the

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<v Speaker 5>Cail Center, But his biggest mood move, no doubt, was

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<v Speaker 5>hiring coach Loudolph, and that changed the whole culture, the

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<v Speaker 5>whole atmosphere in Mcial Center. And boy, we took off

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<v Speaker 5>after that. I mean, think of all the national championships

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<v Speaker 5>that came in after that. I mean, of course Jerry

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<v Speaker 5>Kendall had won one before Lude arrived, but after that

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<v Speaker 5>we totaled up to twenty two now, so it's pretty amazing.

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<v Speaker 5>It just there was just a winning culture with Luke there,

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<v Speaker 5>and the coaches all bonded together. And that's all because

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<v Speaker 5>said set had this vision. He wanted to bring in

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<v Speaker 5>a coach that was successful, and he knew that continuity

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<v Speaker 5>and consistency is what brings the victories. And so with

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<v Speaker 5>through said, we were able to hold on to a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of coaches for a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only that the notoriety brought to the University of Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, for many of us, we didn't know anything

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<v Speaker 3>about the University of Arizona until we got to Tucson,

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<v Speaker 3>but specifically, like I mean, you know, I certainly learned

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<v Speaker 3>about it, but before I got here, there was not

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<v Speaker 3>much news about the u of A. But when he

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<v Speaker 3>get to the final four, what did that mean? You

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<v Speaker 3>think maybe to the overall campus and the recognition that

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<v Speaker 3>the school got nationally.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, I mean we had a study A, missions

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<v Speaker 5>went way up, people trying to get into the u

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<v Speaker 5>A went way up, Fundraising dollars went way up. So uh,

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<v Speaker 5>it impacted you know, the university greatly, and not only that,

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<v Speaker 5>just our spirit and you know, our enthusiasm and everything

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<v Speaker 4>You Yeah, so you're talking about the Domino. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to go to the other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got Kendrea, you got Frank Bush, Dick Tomy, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know I mentioned, and not even the women women's side.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have the Joan of course, and some you

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<v Speaker 2>know Fred Harvey, he's got a lot of these powerful.

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<v Speaker 5>Dave Rubio, Yeah, we all, yes, that night. Yeah, Grave Rubio, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you what do you look for?

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<v Speaker 4>What did he look for?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, he looked for tenacity, dedication. He liked the young,

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<v Speaker 5>the young bucks, so to speak. And I say that

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<v Speaker 5>women and men. He liked those that had a fire

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<v Speaker 5>in him. And I don't you know, people have asked

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<v Speaker 5>me that too. You know, what do you see? And

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<v Speaker 5>it's just a gut feeling when you talk to coaches,

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<v Speaker 5>when you interview them. I think also you have said,

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<v Speaker 5>was under the philosophy that you traveled with teams because

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<v Speaker 5>you were looking at the other coaches, whether it be

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<v Speaker 5>assistant coaches or not, because you never knew when you

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<v Speaker 5>were going to lose your coach, Right. So he had

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<v Speaker 5>this a list literally of coaches that he would watch,

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<v Speaker 5>that he would put on his list, and so he

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<v Speaker 5>was always ready.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it was, it was. It was a great.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really fun to just kind of watch all

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<v Speaker 3>these people come in and have such great success one

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<v Speaker 3>after another. I mean that those years really, really the

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<v Speaker 3>whole nineties basically once he got rolling, that was quite

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<v Speaker 3>a run for that program.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's no doubt built the foundation for our future success.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, You've been an ad for a number of years

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<v Speaker 2>under him, in fact, Bockgrath and all these people. What

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<v Speaker 2>did you take away from him?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, what I what I loved about said is that

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<v Speaker 5>he truly demanded excellence in all areas of our department.

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<v Speaker 5>So academically, he wanted our athletes to succeed in leadership

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<v Speaker 5>program that would encompass all three of those things and

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<v Speaker 5>would touch on things that athletes wouldn't get in a

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<v Speaker 5>traditional classroom. So that was the Cats program. And how

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<v Speaker 5>about that? That went national? You know, we built that

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<v Speaker 5>program and next thing, you know, the NCAA adopted it

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<v Speaker 5>and required all Division I schools to have a program

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<v Speaker 5>similar to our Cats program. Well that was because of said,

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<v Speaker 5>he truly had this educational component in him and believed

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<v Speaker 5>that athletics was a part of the educational learning of

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<v Speaker 5>an individual. So I love that about said.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about this all the time, Dave, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know Jay and Greg, how the nineties, the mid nineties

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<v Speaker 2>and early nineties were just the glory years and it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of has a sense of trying to come back.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know, do you feel the same way.

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<v Speaker 2>Back in those days, it was like a lot of winning,

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<v Speaker 5>It was a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no questions. We were all young.

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<v Speaker 5>We were young, but dang, we had some fun. You know.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm thinking of tonight with that doom, and

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<v Speaker 5>Ryan Hansen and Ryan and I worked very closely together

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<v Speaker 5>when we would go to final fours or you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Elite eight, Sweet sixteens, but the big days were when

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<v Speaker 5>we went to the final four and just having flashbacks

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<v Speaker 5>of those days and how much work it was, but

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<v Speaker 5>yet how much fun it was. My goodness, we were

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<v Speaker 5>rolling and it felt really good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the things that I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>is that he was so he didn't really show emotion,

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<v Speaker 2>at least not with us, right. He was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>very stern, are very very dignified, and his you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like you were speaking to your grandfather with all due respect,

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<v Speaker 2>but you didn't want to piss off your grandfather.

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<v Speaker 5>Well that is true, It is true. You had a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of respect, per said, but honestly, he had a

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<v Speaker 5>very kind heart. He'd walk around the Chale Center and

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<v Speaker 5>make sure he said hi to everybody. So he was

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<v Speaker 5>really engaged in all the various departments. I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 5>what happened to me. That was just which kind of

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<v Speaker 5>bonded us. We've laughed about it our entire lives. But

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<v Speaker 5>I had gone in there, and you know, when you

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<v Speaker 5>move into the men's side of athletics, all of a

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<v Speaker 5>sudden you're like, oh, my goodness, there's all these opportunities

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<v Speaker 5>for women. And so I went into Said's office just

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<v Speaker 5>as a little baby, and I said, I want to

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<v Speaker 5>talk to him about being an athletic director and what

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<v Speaker 5>he would think about that. And he was waiting on

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<v Speaker 5>a call from the president of the university and he

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<v Speaker 5>was President Coffler at the time, and he said, so

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<v Speaker 5>I may get interrupted, and he said, it's a really

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<v Speaker 5>important call because we're talking about some subsidies and redoing

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<v Speaker 5>some of Arizona Stadium and stuff. And he said it's

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<v Speaker 5>a really important call. I said, okay. So I sat there.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure enough, the phone rang, said, picked it up, said

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<v Speaker 5>hello President, and all of a sudden, this cricket was

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<v Speaker 5>coming towards me and said, kind of stuck his leg

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<v Speaker 5>the cricket before it came to me. And he unplugged

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<v Speaker 5>the phone and hung up on the President.

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<v Speaker 4>How did you explain that one I got a car?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, then he couldn't get it plug back in, and

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<v Speaker 5>pretty good about that.

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<v Speaker 4>The good thing Coufflor didn't look for a new a D.

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<v Speaker 5>So, yeah, he had a good humor aside to him

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<v Speaker 5>as well, and and he was just he was a

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<v Speaker 2>So today's point, when he left to the n C

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<v Speaker 2>double A, what was the what was the thought because

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<v Speaker 2>he had done so well. I know you got Jim afterwards,

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<v Speaker 2>but what was the thought in him leaving you thinking, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 2>what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, yeah, you're always worried, right about what the heck?

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<v Speaker 5>I now? Who am I going to work for? And

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we had had such a great relationship and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we had things going and yeah, so it

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<v Speaker 5>was a scary time. It's always a scary time. But

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<v Speaker 5>then we got Jim. Yay. Jim was terrific, of course,

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<v Speaker 5>and built on that foundation and it all worked out great,

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<v Speaker 5>thank goodness, And of course I knew Jim from Washington State,

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<v Speaker 5>so that was a real joy. But boy, let me

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<v Speaker 5>tell you, every time there's an ad change, the staff

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<v Speaker 5>is worried, sick because you just never know. Y, you

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<v Speaker 5>never know, speaking.

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<v Speaker 3>Of which we've experienced that here, you know, in the

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<v Speaker 3>last two years or so, and all kinds of changes

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<v Speaker 3>going on in athletics. Are you glad to be away

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<v Speaker 3>from it and kind of looking in now as a fan?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they asking you for any advice? I mean, what's

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<v Speaker 3>your involvement now?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I do have my toe still kind of stuck

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<v Speaker 5>in there. I chair the Sports Hall of Fame Committee,

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<v Speaker 5>and I always joke that's because I'm history and you

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<v Speaker 5>can take that anyway you want, right, But I enjoy

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<v Speaker 5>that because a lot of our inductees are athletes that

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<v Speaker 5>I was there when they were competing. So it's fun

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<v Speaker 5>to still have that connection. The other way I have

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<v Speaker 5>my little toe in there is I chair actually the

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<v Speaker 5>President's Committee, the Faculty Committee on Athletics. It's called the

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<v Speaker 5>Intercollegiate Athletic Committee. It's a committee that's required by the NCAA,

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<v Speaker 5>and so I report to the president for that. We

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<v Speaker 5>meet once a month with Desiree and her staff, and

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<v Speaker 5>our committee is made up of faculty members from the university.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's exciting for me because I get to, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>hear a lot about what's going on and the changes,

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<v Speaker 5>and I am forever grateful that I'm on the sidelines by.

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<v Speaker 4>Now.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I wouldn't want to be Desiree, no, no question,

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<v Speaker 5>my respect to her.

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<v Speaker 4>I hope you will hang with us for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things that I was shocked about I

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<v Speaker 2>heard a few months ago that I guess, did the

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<v Speaker 2>thing get passed this morning?

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<v Speaker 4>The twenty million.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't tried, but let's assume it gets past, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure it will be. And I heard that the

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<v Speaker 2>women's sports are going to get very little percentages, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking that's not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not true. I guess it's true.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like shocked because in the time of

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<v Speaker 2>title line equity and all that, what are your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>on that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it's a late and see right, I think the

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<v Speaker 5>schools are trying to figure this out too, And I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know specifically what the University of Arizona is going

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<v Speaker 5>to do at this point. What I have heard nationally

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<v Speaker 5>discussed is that it will be based on the revenue

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<v Speaker 5>that teams bring in. So that's how they came up

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<v Speaker 5>with yes of seventy five percent for football, because typically

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<v Speaker 5>most football programs bring in the biggest revenue. Basketball men's

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<v Speaker 5>basketball will be second, and then they'll divide the rest

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<v Speaker 5>amongst the remaining sports. So now whether or not, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>the University of Arizona does follows suit, the other thing is,

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<v Speaker 5>no one's real sure how this actually, this twenty point

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<v Speaker 5>five million that can be paid directly to student athletes,

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<v Speaker 5>how that is going to be looked at by Title nine.

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<v Speaker 5>And so you know, no doubt there's going to be

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<v Speaker 5>more court caated that go forward, you know, because it

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<v Speaker 5>is money that's being distributed by universities, and therefore Title nine,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're receiving federal money, you have to be equitable

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<v Speaker 5>in that lane. But they're also literally just basing it

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<v Speaker 5>on the revenue that sports are bringing it in. But

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<v Speaker 5>then they're going to determine them