Speaker 1: I won't me some glory hope. Oh yeah, Hello, welcome
Speaker 1: to Thief Football Glory Whole Freacap podcast for your week
Speaker 1: seventh in the NFL. I'm not supposed Toason, I'm joined
Speaker 1: here as Oh it's by my good buddy Longhorn. And
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Speaker 1: you'll see you in this week by girls. You know
Speaker 1: how we get down. It's the good, the bad, and
Speaker 1: the fuck. Fuck.
Speaker 2: Okay, now it's talk for the good.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 2: Well, that's just fucking great.
Speaker 1: That's just fucking right.
Speaker 2: Go bad, it's bad, it's bad.
Speaker 1: Well that's fucking not good.
Speaker 2: And the are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1: Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking kidding me?
Speaker 1: God damn it, are you fucking with me? All right,
Speaker 1: boys and girls gonna get into it and as always
Speaker 1: can start off with a good Oh, it's another winning
Speaker 1: week as a company twenty one seventeen as we currently
Speaker 1: see it right now, K having a fantastic week ten
Speaker 1: and six.
Speaker 2: It is c K. That's that way to bring up
Speaker 2: the just just carrying the rest of us this week
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Definitely carrying us down the road. I had a good
Speaker 1: week in college, nine three to two on the week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what happened. Why'd you give it all back
Speaker 2: in the NFL? You dumb dumb we'll get into it.
Speaker 1: That was that nine three and two is with a
Speaker 1: guaranteed loss cooked in which we'll get into and they
Speaker 1: are you kidding me?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm okay.
Speaker 1: And it also included our hitting our free pick the
Speaker 1: overall Montana Sacred Heart fifty four and a half. We
Speaker 1: gave out ended up in sixty four. No where will
Speaker 1: sweat there six and three. Now for your free point,
Speaker 1: Hicks slight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna. I was gonna say a slight
Speaker 2: amendment because that's your pre pick. If you're new to
Speaker 2: the show. Always fade the Longhorn Podcast free pick because
Speaker 2: it is a guaranteed winner if you fade it. Guarantee too.
Speaker 1: We also did have two very hard luck pushes that
Speaker 1: kept us away from just a monsterly, but unfortunately that
Speaker 1: is how football go. Best call of day College I
Speaker 1: will go Kentucky plus thirteen there. I didn't need the
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Kentucky should have won the game outrights, they
Speaker 1: atually dominated Texas for four quarters, three hundred and ninety
Speaker 1: five yards to one hundred and seventy nine. Long Horn.
Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy nine yards is all your boys
Speaker 1: got for the whole game against the very mediocre Kentucky defense.
Speaker 1: Kentucky had twenty eight first down to six. Texas had
Speaker 1: six first downs in four quarters, and Texas finished the
Speaker 1: game with the lowest postgame win expectancy of any team
Speaker 1: in all college football that won this weekend Long Horn?
Speaker 1: Would you like to guess with that percentage? Was what
Speaker 1: did the analytics say, Hey, if one team does this,
Speaker 1: that team does this, here's this team's chance to win
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say twenty six percent.
Speaker 1: You're such a homer.
Speaker 2: Okay, wasn't that far off?
Speaker 1: Arch continues to be just mega ash cheeks incarnate twelve
Speaker 1: for twenty seven for one hundred and thirty yards. He's pathetic.
Speaker 2: Sorry, ok So, before before you move on, quick, quick,
Speaker 2: stop down on this one. Like we saw this before
Speaker 2: with Texas years ago when they had the Chris sims
Speaker 2: uh major Apple White thing going on, and whenever you
Speaker 2: have a kid that has the pedigree that Chris obviously
Speaker 2: Chris Sims had with the son of Phil Simms when
Speaker 2: he came in. They're fuck, they're so proper fucked in
Speaker 2: this situation because you cannot. You can't, at least in
Speaker 2: the Phil Simms situation. They had a proven winner and
Speaker 2: Major White on the bench, which is why there was
Speaker 2: such a pushing pool going on with all the Texas
Speaker 2: fans like put major in, put Major in, and then
Speaker 2: there was a you know, the back and forth of way, Well,
Speaker 2: let Chris Sims learn and grow into the position. In
Speaker 2: this situation, there's there's nothing they can do. They're stuck
Speaker 2: with this guy that sucks at quarterback, has all the
Speaker 2: pedigree of the family, but there's nobody to go to,
Speaker 2: at least this year. So I guess we're just gonna
Speaker 2: try to win. Yeah, for sure, they're gonna have to
Speaker 2: ride this out.
Speaker 1: Before you started as it's like, if they're gonna make
Speaker 1: the move, and we talked about the podcast Long Horn,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna make a move, you make a move.
Speaker 1: It had to be the ul Monroe, it had to
Speaker 1: be the week they played the Red Hoss. Get the
Speaker 1: new kid in there.
Speaker 2: But you can't. But that's the second part of it.
Speaker 2: You can't do it because you you you cannot piss
Speaker 2: off a major recruiting fan, like a major fan like
Speaker 2: that in the recruiting because you'll never get another one
Speaker 2: going forward. You can't bench a Manning.
Speaker 1: Huh do you want another one? Though? I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: sure at some point, like three generations before we ever
Speaker 1: get one they can actually play.
Speaker 2: There's probably a Manning somewhere in middle school fucking picking
Speaker 2: his nose. That's gonna be like a like, actually legit, real,
Speaker 2: fucking real quarterback. But it ain't this one. It ain't
Speaker 2: this fucking retarded Manning. Oh.
Speaker 1: Two punt returns, that's what won that game for Texas.
Speaker 1: Two long horder. I know you were watching the game
Speaker 1: and you just pretty much gave your thoughts on it.
Speaker 1: But man, what you're a Kentucky fan, What a bad
Speaker 1: beat that was? You can't make a field goal? Their
Speaker 1: kid drills a fifty four yard or heat. I mean
Speaker 1: that field goal kicker for tex it's good. Lord. Do
Speaker 1: you ever have a bad field goal kicker?
Speaker 2: Seems to be kick? Yeah, I like that part, but
Speaker 2: at nope, Look, I like the Longhorns, but I like
Speaker 2: money better. So at no point was I ever worried
Speaker 2: about that plus twelve and a half plus thirteen where
Speaker 2: we got it at every cash and that was that
Speaker 2: was money in the bank.
Speaker 1: All right. Moving on, Oh, Longhorn hit and boy did
Speaker 1: he ever hit the big Oh.
Speaker 2: My god, this was a John Holmes. This was a
Speaker 2: John Holmes delivery deliverance here, Yeah, I'm straight.
Speaker 1: It was all right, one unit of mins two and
Speaker 1: a half half a unit, plus one fifty eight on
Speaker 1: the minus six and a half half a unit on
Speaker 1: the plus two thirty four, minus nine and a half
Speaker 1: added it all the way up. All that added up
Speaker 1: plus two ninety six. Now that is a big Dick
Speaker 1: pick and win.
Speaker 2: That should have kept laddering the good.
Speaker 1: That gets in all the way for the first time
Speaker 1: the season in the black on the big day, he
Speaker 1: is eighty nine dollars to the good. Hey, look, Longhorn
Speaker 1: will have if you been listening on, he's gonna have
Speaker 1: one or two games like this during the season where
Speaker 1: he just season it very very clearly. Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: just he literally calls it every step of the way.
Speaker 2: I remember the three unit. There's that three unit one
Speaker 2: that I did one year. I don't eve remember what
Speaker 2: it was, but I was like, this was an I
Speaker 2: think it was Miami going to like a it's usually
Speaker 2: Actually it was the same thing with Miami going Was
Speaker 2: it not Miami going to Cold City?
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was the Raiders going to
Speaker 1: Bolt and they called the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't well, I don't know if that was
Speaker 2: the three unit we got point being. Yes, there there's
Speaker 2: about two or three.
Speaker 1: I think it was because they were like twelve point dogs.
Speaker 1: I was looking on the money lines it was like
Speaker 1: plus two eighty or whatever the fuck it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of times a year I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: I'm gonna push in and go heavy. Then you should
Speaker 2: on any one bet on on a game, and just
Speaker 2: because I'm like, no that this is like the perfect
Speaker 2: the perfect storm of let's smash this spot and try
Speaker 2: to take advantage. And that was one this year, and
Speaker 2: I'm sure there'll be another one coming up at some
Speaker 2: point here.
Speaker 1: So anything else that one. As far as like the game,
Speaker 1: watching it, since you had a lot of action on it, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a little disappointed that I didn't get out
Speaker 2: the game at thirty seven and a half. The clients
Speaker 2: I got the push on the on the total, which sucked.
Speaker 2: But but other and that was only because too it
Speaker 2: was throwing total was gonna tick up the it didn't
Speaker 2: tick up, but it closed it like thirty four. But
Speaker 2: when I put it out.
Speaker 1: At seven, yeah.
Speaker 2: I got it out pretty early. No, I got it
Speaker 2: out pretty early, but just a half point too late
Speaker 2: to get the win. Got the push. But yeah, if
Speaker 2: tu it would would have stopped throwing the ball to
Speaker 2: fucking Mia or to Cleveland. The whole game then would
Speaker 2: have easily gone under. But that was kind of Yeah,
Speaker 2: that was part of the handicap too. It's just got
Speaker 2: a little unfortunate. But yet, I mean, he's coach coach logic, Yeah,
Speaker 2: coach logic. He's definitely next one to go. I don't
Speaker 2: know how. I don't know how he doesn't. I don't
Speaker 2: know how he lasts till Tuesday. We're recording this on Monday.
Speaker 2: I think by Tuesday he's got to be fired. I don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, unless they're just trying to stretch him to
Speaker 2: the bye. I think they have a buye in like
Speaker 2: two weeks. I think, so, who the fuck knows, But yeah,
Speaker 2: he's he's lost. The team's lost. That I did hear
Speaker 2: there's a seventy million dollars quarter dead cap hit if
Speaker 2: they cut two of this offseason, seventy million. So Miami fans,
Speaker 2: you're stuck with him at least one more year.
Speaker 1: And this is the danger of signing that, you know,
Speaker 1: very middle of the road quarterback to contract that big. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just the danger of it, man. But yeah, coach
Speaker 1: on the fucking sidelines just coked out of his mind yelling.
Speaker 2: At actually do chan ran the ball? Like I mean,
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't see because Cleveland's Cleveland's like that
Speaker 2: was part of the handy cut there. They stop and run,
Speaker 2: you don't run on them. Han went nuts and they
Speaker 2: and they still couldn't get within you know whatever the
Speaker 2: final was like it was, it was a blowout. So yeah, Miami,
Speaker 2: glad that.
Speaker 1: You're Texas Longhoor quarterbacks. Your boy from Texas got some
Speaker 1: fucking run and some pt.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I did see Quinn Quinn yours in
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what he did, and I didn't.
Speaker 2: He tried to throw he tried to throw some more
Speaker 2: pick sixes to make me make it go from a
Speaker 2: push to a loss. But it didn't quite happen.
Speaker 1: Thank god for that. Yeah, that's that's like the last
Speaker 1: thing you want is to see the backup coming, I know,
Speaker 1: teetering on a fucking total.
Speaker 2: That is that is now by the way, By the way,
Speaker 2: that's two wins for Cleveland, and uh called the big
Speaker 2: dick on both of them. So nice. That's I'm locked.
Speaker 2: I'm so locked in on Cleveland. I don't even know
Speaker 2: why I'd look at their just you just you bet
Speaker 2: them at home and you made them on the road.
Speaker 2: They're just so easy to come.
Speaker 1: My boy, Harold Fannon leading all receivers with thirty six yards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they fucking I didn't even look to the boss
Speaker 1: with this game because I didn't. I saw Juggins had
Speaker 1: a big day, but he ran for three yards of carry.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: That's because they got such a big lead. They just
Speaker 2: they just at the end, they just gave it to
Speaker 2: him every single time.
Speaker 1: They didn't care with a forty six yarder in there.
Speaker 1: That is a lot of unproductive fucking running.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's I'm telling you, that's that's false. That
Speaker 2: that's a that's a fake final because if you look
Speaker 2: at his first half runs per run per uh you
Speaker 2: know yards per rush, it's gonna be five six seven yard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it's like a total stats and there's
Speaker 1: not gonna be Yeah, tell the story of Dawn. It's
Speaker 1: just because the game out of hand.
Speaker 2: They had such a huge lead. They didn't care. They
Speaker 2: just handing off the hand it off on first, third,
Speaker 2: first second, third down. Didn't give a ship where y'all
Speaker 2: can't score. Clearly, we got a big lead, So let's
Speaker 2: get out of here. And quarterback, they couldn't throw either. That,
Speaker 2: that's yeah. So yeah, that's the thing. They couldn't throw either,
Speaker 2: so that that's no point even trying to risk that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a quarterback with the Terror two in
Speaker 1: bad weather city. Like, that's gonna go so badly for
Speaker 1: them later on in the year, like when the winter
Speaker 1: hits and they got a team that could come in
Speaker 1: there and play in that weather. Oh boy, that is
Speaker 1: gonna be asked whipping time.
Speaker 2: At least at least they can switch to sugar Sanders
Speaker 2: in his strong arm. Oh wait, he doesn't have one.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have one either. Interesting draft strategy over there
Speaker 2: in Cleveland. I don't think it'll work.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Cleveland's thinking all right, let's go on. Oh long word,
Speaker 1: first sounder win of the season on them Dallas.
Speaker 2: Calvos sounders are struggling this year.
Speaker 1: Oh now have you missed the show?
Speaker 2: Thinking?
Speaker 1: Hey, how was that a sounder the cows of the face?
Speaker 2: Well, not so fast. My friend line crashed.
Speaker 1: From four point five to minus two. So Longwor definitely
Speaker 1: is the fucking sounder for that call, and he's now
Speaker 1: only down eight hundred sound.
Speaker 2: Don't bet the sound Actually, I don't know. It might
Speaker 2: be a good time to jump in on the sounders
Speaker 2: if you haven't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it might be a good sign.
Speaker 1: But long wore would you have on this one? Would
Speaker 1: you like about this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just just well what I liked about it was
Speaker 2: it's just Dak dominance at home and at this division,
Speaker 2: in this division. That was basically the whole handicap. I
Speaker 2: didn't I didn't expect it to be this easy. I
Speaker 2: kind of thought it would be a close game back
Speaker 2: and forth, last last man with the ball wins. But
Speaker 2: just Dak is dude, Dak is so good all the
Speaker 2: time now, and and it won't last because that because
Speaker 2: their team's not good, they're not gonna go to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I don't think they're three three to one. I mean
Speaker 2: they got an outside shot at a wild card now
Speaker 2: they might if he keeps playing this at this level,
Speaker 2: they got a shot to sneak into the back door
Speaker 2: of the playoffs. But regardless, whatever the point with Dallas
Speaker 2: now is, you've got four first round draft picks in
Speaker 2: the next two years. You still have a window of
Speaker 2: Dak being at this level for the next you know,
Speaker 2: quarterbacks play. We've just saw We've seen Flack Oh, We've
Speaker 2: seen Aaron Rodgers, we see a lot of these quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: You've got a window of five years with Dak to
Speaker 2: try to build up around him with all these first
Speaker 2: round picks that they've built up. That that's your that's
Speaker 2: just your hope. Who cares what happens this year? Like
Speaker 2: if they seek in the playoffs, who cares they're not
Speaker 2: gonna win. Can the Cowboys not fuck up with these
Speaker 2: four first round picks over the next two years and
Speaker 2: give a la a late career window of a shot
Speaker 2: at a super Bowl kind of like kind of like
Speaker 2: with Romo, they fucked that off, but but they have
Speaker 2: a chance to have that have that late career window
Speaker 2: for dak over the next four or five years. If
Speaker 2: they don't fuck it up. History says they fuck it up.
Speaker 1: So well, I think that is probably going in Your
Speaker 1: favorite is something named jay Lane was the leading receiver
Speaker 1: for the Redskins.
Speaker 2: He keeps saying that, like, you don't know who that is.
Speaker 2: That's the Virginia Tech product, that very well known punt
Speaker 2: returner of Virginia Tech, like I.
Speaker 1: Mean Virginia Tech.
Speaker 2: Well, obviously, yes, he was their leading receiver. Tore I'm
Speaker 2: being I'm being a little little tongue in cheek. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm smiling when I say that. Mo. See, let's I'm
Speaker 2: a little but no like that. He That's the point is,
Speaker 2: like Jade Daniels, is that good that he can go
Speaker 2: out there with some dude named Jaydon Lane, a rookie
Speaker 2: Jayden Lane, and and and still you know, and they
Speaker 2: couldn't run that that was a surprising takeaway from the
Speaker 2: Redskin Sun. How they couldn't run against cowboys. That was
Speaker 2: that was weird.
Speaker 1: But I didn't understand that at all. I said on
Speaker 1: the podcast, the should be able to run up and
Speaker 1: down the field.
Speaker 2: They didn't happen.
Speaker 1: I know, Jaydon Daniels, he was okay before he got hurt,
Speaker 1: which again he's hurt again.
Speaker 2: Didn't he come back in though, or did they did not?
Speaker 2: He he said he was over he thumbs up like
Speaker 2: he was okay. So I think he's gonna be okay
Speaker 2: going forward.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he could have come back in if
Speaker 1: it was a competitive game, but it obviously already wasn't
Speaker 1: a competitive game. It was an ass whoop and pretty
Speaker 1: much throughout. I mean it was a little bit close,
Speaker 1: like for five minutes in the first quarter when they
Speaker 1: went back and forth with three straight touchdowns, and then
Speaker 1: after that it was just no more.
Speaker 2: Dallas is technically in second place in this division. They are,
Speaker 2: how about that?
Speaker 1: And they have a game in hand over the Giants
Speaker 1: and their well not the Giants count, but the Redskins.
Speaker 1: They have a game in hand over them. They did
Speaker 1: have the one loss to Philly, but they could always split.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. That's gonna be interesting going
Speaker 1: down the stretch.
Speaker 2: Always like looking at these standings halfway through the year.
Speaker 1: Again, I've been saying this for two seasons now. It
Speaker 1: continues to happen, continues to be literally the downfall of
Speaker 1: the team, and they were actually better than normal yesterally
Speaker 1: they were seven for sixteen. That's almost fifty percent on
Speaker 1: third down. It's way better than what they normally did.
Speaker 1: But like we said in the preseason pod, they're not
Speaker 1: gonna have the best fourth down percentage ever of all time.
Speaker 1: Again they were zering to yesterday. You just can't. You
Speaker 1: cannot continue to perform the way they do on third
Speaker 1: down and you know, be a consistent winner in this league. Like,
Speaker 1: you're just not gonna get that kind of luck again
Speaker 1: on fourth down like you did last year. And you
Speaker 1: know there it is a rule on when I think
Speaker 1: I got a double check, but I don't think you
Speaker 1: even have to get the third down, Like you could
Speaker 1: gain a first down within the first two downs if
Speaker 1: you would like.
Speaker 2: To not not when you're leading receiver because of health
Speaker 2: is Jalen Lane, and then your your top tight end
Speaker 2: is a guy that was good about fifteen years ago
Speaker 2: and somehow still and somehow you couldn't run the ball
Speaker 2: against the worst rush defense in the history of the NFL.
Speaker 1: That was a head scratcher too. But anyway, all that's say,
Speaker 1: long Horn, great call, that was total dominance. Got one
Speaker 1: nothing nothing, fake about that one. Oh and then tonight
Speaker 1: Longhorn hits for the Clients, put out Detroit minus five
Speaker 1: and a half, closed at minus six. Uh, it was
Speaker 1: good with I think I got closing line value in
Speaker 1: the NFL every single game I put out except the Raiders.
Speaker 1: It was great with closing line value. So close line
Speaker 1: value here Longhorn, I didn't get to see much of
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I haven't either.
Speaker 1: Pretty early on it'll pull back up with I think
Speaker 1: this may be like the only game that BPG hit
Speaker 1: the whole fucking week.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have a score nine points, so I
Speaker 2: mean it's it's clearly the injuries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in it came out, they think he might have
Speaker 1: broke his collarbone, so he did.
Speaker 2: I saw the update. He broke the collarbone. And you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't just continuously play with with the lack of receivers.
Speaker 2: He's been doing it for most of the year. At
Speaker 2: some point against a against a dominant team, especially against
Speaker 2: the spread. Just just yeah, but he's he's playing hurt.
Speaker 2: He's he was questionable coming in you know, game time
Speaker 2: decision like he that's not the real uh Buka that
Speaker 2: we've been seeing. So you gotta you got a a
Speaker 2: half ass of Buka Evans left early. I think it
Speaker 2: was it an early game injury. Yeah, So it just
Speaker 2: it's just this, this was almost you're walking into a
Speaker 2: scheduled loss, with all the close games they've had, all
Speaker 2: the backdoor covers they've had that they're outperforming. They were
Speaker 2: five to one coming into this game. This was a
Speaker 2: tough part of their schedule, and you're going to get
Speaker 2: to seventy percent cover spread monster coming off a loss.
Speaker 2: This was a smash spot for Detroit and they smash
Speaker 2: So it's it's not surprising.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a great call by you, just looking
Speaker 1: through through the boss here. Golf was okay, Jam Gibbs
Speaker 1: though that's seventy eight yard or was something?
Speaker 2: When does that Isaac Teslaw from our Detroit fans that
Speaker 2: we met up in Green Bay and they were telling
Speaker 2: me all about this Teslaw who set the preseason on fire.
Speaker 2: When is you listening guys in Detroit that we got
Speaker 2: drunk with, When is Teslaw gonna gonna do something in
Speaker 2: the actual game.
Speaker 1: He's only got three catches all season, but two of
Speaker 1: our touchdowns. Goddamn, all this man does is catch touchdown.
Speaker 2: I'm only crowing a little bit because he's made me
Speaker 2: look really stupid for a long time in the preseason.
Speaker 2: And but yeah, it's it's a little weird. They haven't
Speaker 2: worked him in to the to the to the mix more.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know where you would go with him.
Speaker 1: I mean everybody, I mean, even Jameson would Jamo had
Speaker 1: two targets and no catches.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I about to go back and
Speaker 2: watch this game. This there's some weird.
Speaker 1: We had one target, he had half his many targets.
Speaker 1: Jamo did. Neither of them played a football.
Speaker 2: All they did was thrown was thrown on Mont Saint
Speaker 2: Brown because it's literally did and oh my god, so
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that must have been a boring one
Speaker 1: because total fifty four and a half slightly went under,
Speaker 1: slightly under there. That's one of those few like unders
Speaker 1: if you took him. I don't think I've ever taken
Speaker 1: an under in the NFL and had to be that
Speaker 1: no sweat ever, what was it?
Speaker 2: Fifty something?
Speaker 1: Fifty four and a half?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, have you ever?
Speaker 1: Can you ever remember one time taking an under in
Speaker 1: the NFL and just being able to turn the TV obviously. Nah,
Speaker 1: that's good. No, no, not ever. Oh but in that one, yeah,
Speaker 1: nine points struggle agalaying there for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: and then Detroit just clearly didn't put any effort in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarters seven to seven, seven, and there's three
Speaker 1: and the fourth I guess they had it wrapped up.
Speaker 1: Was watching Tamabody had a chance to get back in
Speaker 1: the game. It was fourth and four and they were
Speaker 1: about midfield and they were only down there. It was
Speaker 1: sixteen to nine, No twenty one to nine at that time,
Speaker 1: so two scores there. But if you get the touchdown
Speaker 1: two point conversion or just the one at sixteen, so
Speaker 1: your two touchdowns out. But it was about I think
Speaker 1: nine minutes left, ten minutes left the fourth, fourth and
Speaker 1: four Outen actually catches the ball for the first down
Speaker 1: and then he fumbles it. Detroit recovers and then they
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal. And that's church.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's up. That's the way it go.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's move on to the bad now. Well,
Speaker 1: it's basically just me in the NFL, So I'll just
Speaker 1: kick myself in the balls for the next twenty minutes
Speaker 1: or so. If you guys, don't find uh. So let's
Speaker 1: start coming coming through this. Let's start with some combos.
Speaker 1: I gave out Las Vegas plus twelve, and I think
Speaker 1: that was the only game I didn't have colv on.
Speaker 1: But unfortunately for me, that was Longhorn's free pick of
Speaker 1: the week. I didn't forget that, so it really never
Speaker 1: stood a chance.
Speaker 2: You should have wrote that down, dummy.
Speaker 1: Well I did write it down, and I just totally
Speaker 1: forgot about it. Longhorn, you know, he hates all of
Speaker 1: us and he just gives us losers for his free picks.
Speaker 1: He's won and six now in the season.
Speaker 2: I always forget that. We have that part of the
Speaker 2: show at the end, and then I'm scrambling and I
Speaker 2: just throw it, literally the first the first name I see,
Speaker 2: the first name I see, Oh yeah, yeah, do that one.
Speaker 2: Do that one. It doesn't doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Can I just give a caveat on this game that
Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with the finals since it
Speaker 2: was thirty one and nothing. But we've talked about how
Speaker 2: things change, and I don't watch these games in the
Speaker 2: NFL like I do, but like, wow, they Crosby and
Speaker 2: Adam Butler both got hurt, very very early in this game,
Speaker 2: and these are the two best defensive players. Now, look
Speaker 2: they scored zero points, So like it's I wanted to
Speaker 2: make but like I was watching the game and at
Speaker 2: the beginning of the game, like basically the whole first half,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Like
Speaker 2: Casey's is going up and down the field, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: wor's crossby worse crawb cross me because we know that
Speaker 2: he is a one man game wrecker. And and then
Speaker 2: it was like, oh yeah, because you know, you watch
Speaker 2: the red zone, it's kind of flipping back and forth,
Speaker 2: and you're not you don't see the full game exactly,
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh yeah, Crosby's not hurt, Adam Butler's hurt.
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, then they're fucking dead. They're literally
Speaker 2: dead because like you can't it has to You have
Speaker 2: to frustrate mahomes, maybe get a defensive like a strip
Speaker 2: sack or something, something that gives you a chance to
Speaker 2: score easy, keep the game close, and then maybe you're
Speaker 2: in a dogfight. But when they go up in twenty one,
Speaker 2: nothing in the first half because these players are out,
Speaker 2: it was just it was over.
Speaker 1: And because you know Smith had sixty seven yards.
Speaker 2: Pass the entire game, and that's why, and that's why
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 1: When your quarterback for sixty seven in an NFL game,
Speaker 1: that's constable be fired immediately.
Speaker 2: Well let's not. Let's not skate over Ashton genty you
Speaker 2: only getting six carries. I mean, I know it turned
Speaker 2: into a blowout, but can you show me how many
Speaker 2: catches he had won? Six carries and one catch to
Speaker 2: the only guy that you have that can that can
Speaker 2: actually be a difference on this team. So I don't
Speaker 2: know what they're doing in Vegas. Both of us were
Speaker 2: high on Vegas coming into the higher than you know,
Speaker 2: than at least expectations. Pete Carroll, Gino Smith, you'll everybody's
Speaker 2: fucking us real bad and making this look way worse
Speaker 2: than it needs to be. I don't even know they
Speaker 2: have two How do they even we were there? Two wins?
Speaker 2: Are they counting pre like? That doesn't even.
Speaker 1: New England?
Speaker 2: How looking at that?
Speaker 1: Now?
Speaker 2: Look at that? Now? How the fuck did they beat
Speaker 2: New England?
Speaker 1: Well, it was a great matchup for Gino and that
Speaker 1: was like one of one of his two games where
Speaker 1: he has three hundred yards and like three touchdowns.
Speaker 2: When is he gonna have another great matchup? Can you
Speaker 2: tell me that at.
Speaker 1: This point, I don't know that he can. Uh Now,
Speaker 1: their other wins the Tights, so God bless you. You
Speaker 1: beat the Typans, all right, fair enough? Yeah, I don't this.
Speaker 1: This is like they're one of the most frustrating teams
Speaker 1: for me in the season, because, like you said, I
Speaker 1: did have them hire coming in. It looked like we
Speaker 1: might be right. But it turns out, Longhorn, this is
Speaker 1: our Daddy's Raiders because this team fucking sucks. I mean,
Speaker 1: they they can't score the football on the team they
Speaker 1: played twice a year, every mother fucking year, and a
Speaker 1: team that his historic for just letting you kind of
Speaker 1: do what you want. We're gonna beat you. But yeah,
Speaker 1: where you can score sports, you can do this. I
Speaker 1: mean they couldn't score. They could not even make first down.
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god.
Speaker 2: Okay, look, I'll take all the minds in the L
Speaker 2: because it looks like we're gonna take the L on
Speaker 2: what we thought the Rails is gonna be. That's fine,
Speaker 2: I'll we can take the L like that happens, But like,
Speaker 2: is it really like like they got Geno Smith they
Speaker 2: got Pete Carroll, they got Ashton Genty, and all three
Speaker 2: have do do doo doo doo doo And these are
Speaker 2: these are like that Gino's approven quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll is a borderline Hall of Fame coach, Genty
Speaker 2: is a Heisman candidate, Like what is happening? Like you
Speaker 2: can't predict that all these things are gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Quarterback that's never happened.
Speaker 2: You can't maybe not carry it, but you can be you.
Speaker 2: He's been doo dooo. Also, like, I mean, this is
Speaker 2: I'm not blaming him, but don't don't act like he's
Speaker 2: been like overwhelming all he's Yeah, So like that's my
Speaker 2: point is like we're getting underwhelming from three players three
Speaker 2: two players in the coach that we know are better
Speaker 2: than this. So yeah, we're we're gonna end up being wrong,
Speaker 2: but like come on, like this and actually, oh god,
Speaker 2: Jenny's got four hundred and forty five carries, so actually
Speaker 2: or yards, so he's actually on pace for like twelve
Speaker 2: hundred yards, so actually he's not really underperforming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like one eleven carries so he's four.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that's a little low on the yards
Speaker 2: per per carry that you'd like to see more of that.
Speaker 2: You certainly like to see more than three touchdowns after contact.
Speaker 1: It's like his yards are after contact. This is the worst.
Speaker 2: I don't know, no, no, because we looked at that too.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not grading out that. It's not Houston.
Speaker 2: It's definitely not that. So I don't know. This is
Speaker 2: one where you just take the l and you stop
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out, you stop trying to bet them,
Speaker 2: and you say, you know what, until until you can
Speaker 2: turn it. Let's just let's just stay away from the Raiders.
Speaker 2: No more, no more Raiders.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen Mahomes whip them before, but it's
Speaker 1: funny because he never does it at home. When he
Speaker 1: does whip him, he usually does it in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: For whatever. This this was the worst. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: seen Aidan O'Connell do better than this. I've seen name
Speaker 1: any shitty Raiders quarterback in the last ten years. They've
Speaker 1: all done better than that.
Speaker 2: But you're probably about to see another shitty quarterback next week.
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett came into this game, so is there at
Speaker 2: a certain point, Pete Carrollton he'll pull the plug eventually,
Speaker 2: at least for a little bit.
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett at two was super two for eight yards
Speaker 1: four yards in ten four point two. Let okay, here's
Speaker 1: an idea Raiders offensive stat Let's call some plays because
Speaker 1: I mean, Kenny Pickett completed both of us passes. So
Speaker 1: let's cast the plays that might go for more than
Speaker 1: four yards.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Toronto fucking beat Seattle. So they're going to
Speaker 2: the World Series.
Speaker 1: The Blue Jays. What is it the nineties? What the
Speaker 1: is happening?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Sorry, no Canadians into our World Series? This is
Speaker 2: that's not alone.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, another combo shit show. New Orleans plus five
Speaker 1: or four and a half, whatever you got them at.
Speaker 1: We both gave this one out. And I look, I
Speaker 1: was completely wrong about this game. The BPG said Rattlers
Speaker 1: should have a good game relative to him anyway, he didn't.
Speaker 1: He through three picks. I said New Orleans should find
Speaker 1: success running the ball. They didn't. I did also say
Speaker 1: Chicago should have a decent day running the ball. Decense
Speaker 1: and Understille. They made it all over New Orleans, so
Speaker 1: way more than fucking decent. I think I'm just the
Speaker 1: point that I'm gonna have to start grading New Orleans
Speaker 1: differently on the road than at home. They played three
Speaker 1: games this year, Longhorn. They've lost all three by double
Speaker 1: ditchs all three. They're one and six now, whether they
Speaker 1: win another game in the rest of the season, who
Speaker 1: the fuck knows, But I New Orleans on the road
Speaker 1: is gonna have to be graded on a different fucking scale. Dude,
Speaker 1: getting too much respect for keeping things close at home
Speaker 1: and then they go on the road and get their
Speaker 1: fucking sorry asses whipped.
Speaker 2: So I got several takeaways on this game, and you
Speaker 2: nailed one of them. New Orleans, New Orleans, New Orleans
Speaker 2: definitely on the road away split like like and until
Speaker 2: they proved otherwise. Number two again with a caveat on
Speaker 2: the injury. Would they have changed anything, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but we talked about the handicap on. This was the
Speaker 2: running game for New Orleans and Kendrey Miller, the guy
Speaker 2: that's been the resurgence of this running game, pairing up
Speaker 2: with the Alvin Cambara gone for the season. He had
Speaker 2: one carry for seven yards. I mean, like, would they
Speaker 2: have changed anything? I don't know. There's no way to
Speaker 2: know these things, you know, But like that that was
Speaker 2: another takeaway.
Speaker 1: Actually move the ball and score. I mean they lost
Speaker 1: about double. They lost about twelve. That's within one score
Speaker 1: of you know, getting a cover at four and a half.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, if you gotta have five and a half,
Speaker 2: one scorer is a win. So like it they were.
Speaker 2: And then another takeaway. The running game for Chicago is
Speaker 2: I mean they are finally And how they're doing with
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift, I don't know, because he's always been He'll
Speaker 2: have these stretches of four, five, six weeks where he'll
Speaker 2: look like all pro yes, and so I don't know
Speaker 2: if this can keep up with him because he also
Speaker 2: has an injury history. We'll see if this keeps up.
Speaker 2: But right now they're so locked in. Caleb was bad
Speaker 2: behind him?
Speaker 1: Who's this man?
Speaker 2: Guy? That's the rookie from was it you? You? You
Speaker 2: probably know more of me. It's one of those packed
Speaker 2: packed teams Utah or b Yu, I can't remember what.
Speaker 2: It's one of the West Coast teams. I think is
Speaker 2: where he came from. Oh sorry, East Coast, my bad so.
Speaker 1: For seen carriers.
Speaker 2: What's that offensive line? They it's all those guys they
Speaker 2: signed offensive line there. They're finally coming together, getting more
Speaker 2: cohesion together now that they're later in the season because
Speaker 2: Caleb sucked that. That's the point is that it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Spencer sucked. He threw the ball to the wrong team
Speaker 2: too many times, which was a new thing for him
Speaker 2: he hasn't been doing this year. But Caleb sucked too,
Speaker 2: like he was bad. Like you know that. But that's
Speaker 2: a little scary that he can play that bad and
Speaker 2: they still get a win. So four and two for
Speaker 2: Chicago now and Arrow up, I guess.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt about it. Arrow is fucking
Speaker 1: all the way off on Chicago.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: It's, like I said, you just nailed it. If he
Speaker 1: can play that badly and they win by double digits.
Speaker 1: And I know it's the Saints and they're winning six granted,
Speaker 1: but even bad teams in this league, if you let
Speaker 1: them hang around by playing shitty on offense, they generally
Speaker 1: do and the Saints just couldn't do it. So all right,
Speaker 1: moving on to another arrow down team that Chicago might
Speaker 1: be taken over Minnesota plus two and a half. At
Speaker 1: least this one teased me like for a minute that
Speaker 1: it could be a win. I swear to god, dude,
Speaker 1: I got off the fucking plane and turn my phone
Speaker 1: back on and look like, oh, how am I doing
Speaker 1: the NFL today? It's like, oh, I'm gonna lose every
Speaker 1: single fucking game. That's amazing. Just turn my phone right
Speaker 1: back off and waiting for my luggage quietly. But then
Speaker 1: when I did check my phone again, at least this
Speaker 1: one did tease me. I said out the podcast, WinCE
Speaker 1: was gonna have a rough one, and he did, and
Speaker 1: they did throw for three hundred yards, so through two picks,
Speaker 1: no touchdowns. Yet again, I don't know what this guy's
Speaker 1: so adverse of throwing touchdowns. For Minnesota lost on the
Speaker 1: best spot after the bye, which is being a home dog,
Speaker 1: So thank you for losing on a fifty six percent trend.
Speaker 1: But I also said, Barkley struggle here again, and he did.
Speaker 2: Barkley struggles every week now that he can't run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I couldn't predict that Hirts was gonna have
Speaker 1: one of his I don't know, usually three games he
Speaker 1: has like three games a season where he goes from
Speaker 1: throwing one hundred and twenty yards a game to over
Speaker 1: three hundred. It happens two or three times a year.
Speaker 1: Hell if I know when the fucking know it's coming.
Speaker 2: He's the Troy Eggman. He's the current eras Troyigman, where
Speaker 2: like everybody's like he sucks. He's just assisting guy. He
Speaker 2: can't carry a team, and everyone's while He'll be like,
Speaker 2: I'll show you, motherfuckers, look like I can do it.
Speaker 1: Fall out real quick.
Speaker 2: Here's some beautiful he there's some fucking beauties, yes, Sunday.
Speaker 1: I mean he does do it from time to time.
Speaker 1: That was his best game. But on the Minnesota side again,
Speaker 1: and this did not show up through the numbers. And
Speaker 1: I don't know how you predict this outlier. Their worst
Speaker 1: defensive performance of the entire season by far, every metric,
Speaker 1: the total score, everything. So two outliers came together in
Speaker 1: a perfect storm to fuck me right in the Longhorn
Speaker 1: thoughts on this embarrassing failure of mind. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're Minnesota. Boy's been three and three now.
Speaker 2: By the way, and in the last place of that division.
Speaker 2: My god, maybe JJ will come back and save the day.
Speaker 2: M I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there was a play and I don't remember who who
Speaker 2: was the receiver. Let me look at their names. It
Speaker 2: may have been nailor whatever whoever it was. There was
Speaker 2: a there was a a touchdown in the end zone
Speaker 2: that got overruled and called incomplete. Could have gone either way, actually,
Speaker 2: and I don't even know if it was called a
Speaker 2: touchdown or if it was called in complete. It could
Speaker 2: have been that. And it was late in the game
Speaker 2: and that.
Speaker 1: No, I was watching red zone because I was actually
Speaker 1: in the uber on my way to my fucking house.
Speaker 2: It was the tight end, the white tight end okay,
Speaker 2: oh Hawkinson, okay, with.
Speaker 1: The ball touched the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that could have been I mean, that would
Speaker 2: have the way my day was going. I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, no fucking way, no way, this is standing.
Speaker 1: That's incomplete, all yeah.
Speaker 2: And if that stage.
Speaker 1: In the in the fucking crowds as opposed to catch it,
Speaker 1: and if.
Speaker 2: That and if that stage of the touchdown, they're going
Speaker 2: back and forth from there and you're staying in the cover,
Speaker 2: so you know, it's it's uh, it's a game of
Speaker 2: inches and a game of of one call one way
Speaker 2: or the other. And they went bad.
Speaker 1: They yeah, because they still got in the cover with
Speaker 1: the field goal. It was twenty one nineteen is what
Speaker 1: I put it at and I put them about two
Speaker 1: and a half. I don't know whether I think they
Speaker 1: closed it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they would have got they would have had
Speaker 2: to lead, and then like you're you're you're winning, that
Speaker 2: you're covering then yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when they don't do that, Philly SUPs a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and then of course Minnesota comes back down, has another
Speaker 1: chance to get in there and put a touchdown. Can't
Speaker 1: do it, Gotta settle for the field goal, which does
Speaker 1: me no good at all, you know, because then they
Speaker 1: can't stop them because hers just does another bomb down
Speaker 1: the sideline to fucking ice the game. What a great
Speaker 1: throw that was.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, you know, a little live update on the
Speaker 2: Seattle Houston game. You know what you do when you're
Speaker 2: up fourteen to nothing and you have Sam Darmol playing
Speaker 2: like out of his goddamn mind. You run a reverse
Speaker 2: pass with Cooper Cupp who throws an interception to the
Speaker 2: other team. That's what you do when you that's I mean,
Speaker 2: that's smart coaching right there. That's that's that's genius, dude.
Speaker 1: That Oh there was a play in college just like
Speaker 1: that somebody ran they were doing Oh it was the
Speaker 1: old miss fucking one of the pushes. I got old.
Speaker 2: Miss Alabama or Georgia.
Speaker 1: Georgia Miss dominating that game, whipping Georgia left and right,
Speaker 1: and Lane wants to get in his bag and fucking
Speaker 1: color reverse. The kid throws an interception for no reason.
Speaker 1: I mean this kid that that quarterback for Ole Miss
Speaker 1: was fucking balling.
Speaker 2: Why do these coaches do that? Why do they know?
Speaker 1: Dude? Just let good enough alone, like you're winning, You
Speaker 1: pull that shit out when nothing's going well. How when
Speaker 1: everything's going well.
Speaker 2: I know it's weird.
Speaker 1: Huh. All right, let's move on to those New York
Speaker 1: j Ets.
Speaker 2: That Jets wiring. Moving on to them? Did you have them? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, only the Jets could fuck off a twenty five
Speaker 1: years sixty six percent trend.
Speaker 2: Oh fuck you?
Speaker 1: That do it to a team that scored thirteen points
Speaker 1: fields is fucking garbage. There's no other way to pull it.
Speaker 1: Tyrod came in call wasn't any better too, He sucked
Speaker 1: back door, he threw interception, both fucking tops. Now long home.
Speaker 1: When I made this bet, Carolina was only gonna score
Speaker 1: thirteen points? Would you have felt this about my chances
Speaker 1: of covering?
Speaker 2: Oh? I mean I'm making I'm making fun, but like
Speaker 2: I was on this in every contest I had, like
Speaker 2: like I was on the Jets, Like I was like this,
Speaker 2: they're gonna get this win. Like Carolina's the can't win
Speaker 2: on the road. Yes, yes, but but you know they're
Speaker 2: they're quarterbacks and their coach sucks so bad. And I
Speaker 2: think if I mean, we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna give you some numbers real quick on it. If
Speaker 1: if your opponent scores exactly thirteen, not thirteen or last
Speaker 1: not county shut exactly thirteen points since twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Like what's your what's your what's your record? I mean,
Speaker 2: you're probably thirteen points, so the average scorer is around
Speaker 2: twenty two twenty three, So you're I mean, i'd say
Speaker 2: seventy five percent. So whatever that, whatever that comes out
Speaker 2: to you.
Speaker 1: Straight up, you're winning two hundred and fifty and forty
Speaker 1: eight eighty three point nine percent of the time you win,
Speaker 1: straight up.
Speaker 2: If your opponent that's like eighty percent eighty three point
Speaker 2: nine Yeah, holy shit, ats.
Speaker 1: Two thirty eight fifty three and seven eighty eight point
Speaker 1: one percent. Ats now, god tanks of the count all situations.
Speaker 1: So let's just put it like this. If you're a
Speaker 1: home dog since twenty twelve, and your opponent scores thirteen
Speaker 1: points exactly thirteen, So you're the dog. They score thirteen points.
Speaker 1: Your record ats is ninety one point seven god damn percent.
Speaker 1: So thank you.
Speaker 2: Very much Jets for doing oh my god.
Speaker 1: Should be next to impossible. But I called all one
Speaker 1: hundred percent of that eight point three percent possibility. The
Speaker 1: Jets changed the name to the fucking sex Panthers because
Speaker 1: eight point three percent of the time it works every time.
Speaker 2: No, they're the they're the j Ets. Place your bets
Speaker 2: against them. Remember they like, you don't bet on him,
Speaker 2: you want seits interstell me when I said this, it's
Speaker 2: not Jts plays your bets on them, is j Ets
Speaker 2: plays your bets.
Speaker 1: I got a joke.
Speaker 2: I even my diary, so I didn't realize this. Watching
Speaker 2: the game, I saw him make a couple of plays
Speaker 2: and obviously a touchdown. But this will make it even
Speaker 2: more mad in the fucking like, just go crazy. Xavier
Speaker 2: Legett had his fucking career game nine catches, ninet two
Speaker 2: yards and a touchdown on eleven targets. Like he was
Speaker 2: he was literally all at worked.
Speaker 1: That's nine in two yards of one hundred and forty
Speaker 1: yards pass and or whatever. Sorry, sorry I gave too
Speaker 1: much credit. One hundred and thirty eight yards passing. Now
Speaker 1: the real years he was garbage again.
Speaker 2: Now the real question garbage team.
Speaker 1: When your garbage quarterback plays like garbage, it's for thirteen
Speaker 1: points and you can't even win a game at home.
Speaker 2: We'll they win a game, is now the question? Because
Speaker 2: like they obviously have a Hall of Fame future Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame coach, So this is already shocking to start with.
Speaker 2: How how the the then the Black Hope then the
Speaker 2: Black Hope coach is zero to seven? But will they
Speaker 2: win a game? Because if you look at their schedule,
Speaker 2: it is, eh, there ain't a whole lot of chances
Speaker 2: at wins on there.
Speaker 1: So no, there was a whole lot of chances to
Speaker 1: begin with. It's just this is one of those though,
Speaker 1: like you know, and an the normal slate, you're gonna
Speaker 1: lose a game that you think you got a handicap
Speaker 1: right or whatever, and it pretty much plays out that way,
Speaker 1: and he's still then find they find a way to
Speaker 1: fuck it off. That's fine, But when you have a
Speaker 1: day like I have, you can't have this happen too
Speaker 1: when it's yeah, they should have fucking won. They scored
Speaker 1: thirteen points. You have to be able to score fourteen.
Speaker 1: You have to as an NFL team, they'll score four
Speaker 1: two scores at home. You've had.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got their win because next week think to
Speaker 2: the Bengals and it's I mean the way. Yeah. But
Speaker 2: the week after that they're home against the Browns. We
Speaker 2: know the Browns don't travel on the road well and
Speaker 2: play well in the road. That's their spot. They better.
Speaker 1: If they start tyron for the next two weeks, then yes,
Speaker 1: If they go back the fields and they try to
Speaker 1: pull tyrone and cold again, then I'm out.
Speaker 2: And Miami comes to them in December. So that's that's
Speaker 2: a that's a shot of the win. So take the
Speaker 2: take the no on the and seventeen for the Jets.
Speaker 2: They're gonna get a win.
Speaker 1: Oh you surely thought this was gonna be the one though,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. I did, all right, No, I did too.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this you anybody like this has to
Speaker 1: be the one, all right on? Oh yeah, let's move
Speaker 1: on to those Sandyeago super fuck heads got them minus
Speaker 1: one and a half close at two and a half again, Right,
Speaker 1: I got closing them you all day long, baby, I
Speaker 1: fucking love it. Set of the podcast A projected score.
Speaker 1: The Chargers scored twenty three points. They scored twenty four,
Speaker 1: so I got pretty close on that. But what I
Speaker 1: did in project was Indian scored thirty eight goddamn points. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to make some adjuste. This is not
Speaker 1: anything really on the charge. This is my fault. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to make some adjustice to my Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: projections going forward. I got to take out all its priors.
Speaker 1: He's been forming all season long, and it's it's gonna
Speaker 1: go It's not gonna go back. So it's just giving
Speaker 1: me bad data. But the Chargers, though, are officially now
Speaker 1: a bad football team. Is they've given up more points
Speaker 1: than they've scored on the year through seven weeks. They're
Speaker 1: headed towards third place, which I think is about where
Speaker 1: you and I had them, Longhorn, and uh, I've only
Speaker 1: got one thing left to say on this one, and
Speaker 1: then I let Longhorn take it away. Well fuck yourself,
Speaker 1: san Diego. Everybody didn't catch that. Go Fuck that felt,
Speaker 1: san Diego.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're definitely firmly in San Diego. At this point,
Speaker 2: they have no chance of moving the LA anytime soon
Speaker 2: the way they're playing. Yeah, this is more about I
Speaker 2: mean why why? Because I was on l A two
Speaker 2: and in the contests that we have so the same thing,
Speaker 2: I was in on the same boat with you, Like,
Speaker 2: why am I Betty, I'm tired of betting against this team.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't ever want to bet against in again. Like,
Speaker 2: like they've been so from and when can you ever
Speaker 2: say this in the NFL that for seven weeks they've
Speaker 2: been the same fucking team that never fucking happens. They
Speaker 2: have not had a letdown, even in their one loss
Speaker 2: they should have won because of fucked hard, you know,
Speaker 2: dropping the boat like or could have won. I won't
Speaker 2: say should have could have It could have gone either way. Still,
Speaker 2: but like they've been the same, They've been the same
Speaker 2: coach team, same energy team, same quarterback team the entire year.
Speaker 2: This is exactly what you want to you know, this
Speaker 2: consistency is what you want. And I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: going against some more. Maybe I don't bet on them
Speaker 2: every week. I'm sure's fucking betting against them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's another one of those. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: played the board, and the board gave me what it
Speaker 1: gave me, which was a big bag of shit. This week.
Speaker 1: That's fine, I don't think. I hope you don't have
Speaker 1: another Sunday like this again.
Speaker 2: For a long one day, Goadston was the leading what
Speaker 2: oh my god, Chargers are are in a bad way
Speaker 2: and they can't stop him away on defense anymore. So
Speaker 2: Jesse Mintor over.
Speaker 1: There Macaukee, the hockey got fifteen targets, but only Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: Jesse Mintor on defense, you were the new young hot
Speaker 1: shot defensive guy, and you still might be at some point.
Speaker 2: Get it together. This this you're falling apart. You're falling
Speaker 2: apart just as fast as the old line for the Chargers.
Speaker 2: So nothing's going right on both sides of the ball
Speaker 2: for the Chargers. Hardball's going to earn his money.
Speaker 1: This is another one of those spots so long here
Speaker 1: where you just thought right as a corrective action, and
Speaker 1: he's not gonna go sixteen and one. You're gonna lose
Speaker 1: some more games.
Speaker 2: Harball's never gone. He's never lost four straight ATS games
Speaker 2: in his career. This is the first time he's ever
Speaker 2: lost four straight ATS games.
Speaker 1: Your small home favorite, a team that you match up
Speaker 1: well against.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: I mean should have been the spot.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? This dog's looking this way,
Speaker 1: those guys looking at that way. This guy's like, what
Speaker 1: do you want from me?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Moving on to those ten I see Titans. I gave
Speaker 1: out a plus seven close six and a half for
Speaker 1: Cob Baby, I think yeah, like literally every game set
Speaker 1: the Raiders.
Speaker 2: Look.
Speaker 1: I hated this play honestly, but I sucked my board
Speaker 1: and like it did all day. It took a giant
Speaker 1: ship on me. The dead cat bounce from the coach
Speaker 1: never happened there.
Speaker 2: It did happen. It did happen for the whole first half.
Speaker 1: Oh well again when I by the time I got
Speaker 1: I landed and hearing this game on, it was over.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm putting on. It's just another game
Speaker 1: that I looked at my phone in the playland. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh well, there's another terrible fucking loss. Tennessee's offense.
Speaker 1: It's just beyond broken. I don't have anything else to
Speaker 1: say about this game, just another sipping. They were leg
Speaker 1: one of your Sunday Morning Parlay.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they were, they were leg one of the
Speaker 2: party and and they were on on Uh it was
Speaker 2: a contest play for me too, So I was right
Speaker 2: there with you, like and we talked about the podcast.
Speaker 2: We both we both really liked it on the podcast.
Speaker 2: And this was always going to be either I'm taking
Speaker 2: Tennessee or not taking them for sure. And and they
Speaker 2: started off on fire. They what was the yeah ten
Speaker 2: three at the first squre and and and New England
Speaker 2: didn't get the lead going into halftime. They Tennessee kind
Speaker 2: of botched the clock at the end of the first half.
Speaker 2: Shocker that they had. Yeah, I know, I know. So
Speaker 2: so there was a late score by New England right
Speaker 2: before halftime. That's when you kind of knew. It's like
Speaker 2: uh oh, like like that's not what you want at
Speaker 2: the end of the first half. But at the the
Speaker 2: who Okay, I got a question because you watched a
Speaker 2: lot of cam Wharton College and he's clearly broken this year,
Speaker 2: and that's fine, that happens to a lot of we
Speaker 2: we we just talked about Daniel Jones. I mean that
Speaker 2: this happens a lot in the NFL. But didn't he
Speaker 2: run wasn't the running part of his game a thing
Speaker 2: in college?
Speaker 1: No, he's more like Shador he runs the throw or
Speaker 1: like Mahomes too, like Mahome, like Mahomes runs more. I
Speaker 1: think of the pros and I never assume do it
Speaker 1: Texas tag.
Speaker 2: Like so he never he never ran the ball in college.
Speaker 1: Not when he got to Miami, he more ran to throw. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm still run every once in a while, but by
Speaker 1: the time he got to Miami, he would more run
Speaker 1: to throw. And he he likes getting out, He likes
Speaker 1: being on the move, man, He likes seeing things, he
Speaker 1: likes going places like so you know, check it.
Speaker 2: He likes going to throw and and the ball falls
Speaker 2: out of his hand backwards for a touchdown the other team.
Speaker 1: Like he's got small fucking hands, man, We said that
Speaker 1: when he have fucking draft he's got small fucking hands.
Speaker 1: He's a run around dude. Look. I like a lot
Speaker 1: of things about cam Ward's game, But the one thing
Speaker 1: I said when we talked about you know, long horm
Speaker 1: went over every fucking player going to the draft. So
Speaker 1: the one thing I fucking hate about cam Ward, and
Speaker 1: this is where sugar Bridges was just better than him.
Speaker 1: When he had had it what they call have it
Speaker 1: in college football in his face, his fucking adjusted completion
Speaker 1: rate went, I mean through the fucking ground. He went
Speaker 1: from being heisman to fucking you wouldn't start at goddamn
Speaker 1: you mass like. That's how bad he got when pressure
Speaker 1: got in his face and he couldn't get away from it,
Speaker 1: and he actually had to stand in a crowded pocket
Speaker 1: and throw a football, which, again in the NFL, at
Speaker 1: some point in time, you were gonna have to stay
Speaker 1: in the crowded pocket throw football. Yes, I know, these
Speaker 1: younger guys like to get out of move. Jaydon Daniels doesn't,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes doesn't, Josh Allen doesn't. A lot of them
Speaker 1: have gotten pretty good and pretty well adept to it.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that the game's not evolving, but at
Speaker 1: some point, every one of those guys had to stand
Speaker 1: in the crowded pocket and deliver fucking football. The other
Speaker 1: three guys I mentioned are really good at it. He's not,
Speaker 1: at least not yet. He wasn't in college either. Can't
Speaker 1: he develop it? I don't know. I mean, Josh Allen did,
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes did, Jaye Daniels he kind of always had
Speaker 1: it a little bit, but yeah, their offense is just terrible, dude,
Speaker 1: it's fucking like and I keep waiting on the like
Speaker 1: because there's gonna have to be some for great, Like
Speaker 1: you can't be this bad all season. And actually in
Speaker 1: this game they were a lot better. Up to five
Speaker 1: yards were played. I know. That sucks balls for a
Speaker 1: team that's average about three point eight yards to play
Speaker 1: the whole goddamn year. That's amazing for them. So they
Speaker 1: had a.
Speaker 2: Great I mean, might be going might be going back
Speaker 2: to the free square again. It might be another free square,
Speaker 2: like might be free square the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: On Tennessee.
Speaker 1: The only thing that made me chuckle was like, this
Speaker 1: is the one way he takes them while and they
Speaker 1: get fucking poned at.
Speaker 2: Home and Drake and my last one on this is
Speaker 2: Drake May is Jesus Christ as he fucking like you know,
Speaker 2: the coach quarterback combination we talked about all the time,
Speaker 2: it's it's they may have they may have found the
Speaker 2: next great coach quarterback combination here in New England. This
Speaker 2: game that well because because he got concussed, Drake May
Speaker 2: got can cussed. That was your shot yes, and he
Speaker 2: got pulled out because they he tried to play through
Speaker 2: it and then someone said, hey, he's they You got
Speaker 2: to get him out of there and get checked. Josh
Speaker 2: Dobbs comes in. They blitz him and this was this
Speaker 2: wasn't a third third one, yes, third or fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: It was like a third and fifteen, and they blitz him.
Speaker 2: The guy wraps around him, he does his little Josh
Speaker 2: Dobbs shoulder shrug, shakes off the sack and throws the
Speaker 2: completion for first. Yeah, it's just fucking stupid. So that
Speaker 2: was kind of your shot, like to like change the
Speaker 2: momentum of the game and been going completely against you
Speaker 2: for a long time and maybe put some pressure on
Speaker 2: it and get back in this game. Nope, first down,
Speaker 2: Drake make comes back in after the one play goes down,
Speaker 2: scores touchdown. We're toast.
Speaker 1: So I see the point now on the boss, who
Speaker 1: are about probably where I looked Athim. I got to
Speaker 1: look at my phone somewhere in the third quarter when
Speaker 1: we had been outscored twenty eight to three over the
Speaker 1: last two quarters, and yeah, oh this is going about
Speaker 1: like I probably figured it.
Speaker 2: Would tough one, tough one, all right?
Speaker 1: I think we got one more here. Oh long one
Speaker 1: had two units on Atlanta on the sounder and Atlanta
Speaker 1: on the teaser as well, so lost both of those. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I didn't watch a single play in this game. I
Speaker 1: definitely was over football at this point. And uh, but
Speaker 1: the boss s word look pretty even, I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this one was the mac finally see mac hey, welcome
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty five, Buddy, playt Smith football here. Oh
Speaker 1: really are right, but let me get this rock get
Speaker 1: this one hundred and whatever yards he finally showed up.
Speaker 1: Other than that, I mean, everything else looked about it
Speaker 1: even to me. I don't I don't know. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you watched it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this this little little bit of a tough luck
Speaker 2: loss for sure on the on the teaser, and then
Speaker 2: I think when I made the on it was down
Speaker 2: to two and a half. Was that was that what
Speaker 2: it was on the podcast?
Speaker 1: Uh, you just wanted two units on the money line
Speaker 1: on the sounder.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, lesson learned, don't ever take San Fran
Speaker 2: coming off a loss. They're just they're just that's when
Speaker 2: they're locked in. I don't know how in the hell
Speaker 2: Sawah did this with this defense with with losing losing
Speaker 2: Fred Warner and they already lost Boza, like he's such
Speaker 2: a badass defensive coordinator. And then on the other side,
Speaker 2: you know Pinnix and and that offense, like like, how
Speaker 2: how do you mean he barely threw he was almost
Speaker 2: fifty passing, Like that's horrible against against a defense that
Speaker 2: was missing the players, and you got you got.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get that.
Speaker 2: Well, then throw to him more. He had six catches
Speaker 2: for fifty yards, like like figure it out, Like you
Speaker 2: got a dynamic player just like just like Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 2: on the other side, if he's not running the ball,
Speaker 2: get it to him a different way. And you got
Speaker 2: Drake London, you got Kyle Pitts, who's you know had
Speaker 2: a resurgence this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, two hundred yards.
Speaker 2: Yes, So maybe use Beijeon that way and and at
Speaker 2: least keep this game close. I know, I know, it's
Speaker 2: just I don't I don't have any qualms with this game,
Speaker 2: just a little little bad luck that it didn't land
Speaker 2: at least in the uh in the cover and and
Speaker 2: and the teaser cover.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for a competitive game, because it was
Speaker 1: ten points. So I wouldn't say any garba some at all.
Speaker 1: If you look at the yards for playing, they were
Speaker 1: exactly even. I think when I looked at it. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: four point nine, four point nine. You didn't deserve to
Speaker 1: lose about ten. You know, that's a coin flippy game
Speaker 1: that could go either way, three to seven points in
Speaker 1: that range, just a one possession. Not sure what happened
Speaker 1: there at the end. Oh Land decided not to score
Speaker 1: on the fourth quarter, That's what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there had so many shots. They had so many
Speaker 2: shots too, at least to get the to get the
Speaker 2: teaser cover and then on the on on the contest,
Speaker 2: I was getting three and a half, so I could
Speaker 2: have got the back door on that too. San Fran
Speaker 2: was just like almost not letting them. But like you know,
Speaker 2: your teams get with the two point or two score lead,
Speaker 2: they're just they're gonna kind of get you. And Pinnicks
Speaker 2: just couldn't do it. He got hurt. It was so funny.
Speaker 2: I know you didn't watch it. He got hurt on
Speaker 2: the last drive and Cousins over there like standing right
Speaker 2: to the coach. The head coach is watching Pinnicks, who's
Speaker 2: refusing to come out of the game, and it's like
Speaker 2: he's like watching. Pinis like kind of walk around like, oh,
Speaker 2: do I pull on the Cousins is right here next
Speaker 2: to me. No, go ahead and do another play. He
Speaker 2: can't move. Fucking just sucks. What do I leave them
Speaker 2: in like this? It goes allay. It's like, dude, what
Speaker 2: the fuck am I watching? They had no shot to
Speaker 2: get that back door once he got hurt.
Speaker 1: That's like that fucking U was that one shot a
Speaker 1: table screaming at the fucking h trainers when Jack Starr
Speaker 1: had to go out for yeah and Russell comes in
Speaker 1: and throws a pick immediately.
Speaker 2: I can only imagine what Cousins is saying right next
Speaker 2: to the coach, because they're both like staring at like
Speaker 2: like do we pull the trigger? Do we do it?
Speaker 2: He's Cousin like, just put me in, I'll get the
Speaker 2: I'll get the back door. At least just put me in.
Speaker 2: Put me in. Of course, he's never saying I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get the back door. They don't. They don't talk like that,
Speaker 2: But that's what I was saying, put Cousins in, because
Speaker 2: I know if he put Cousins in, they're getting that
Speaker 2: fucking back door one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: It's gonna go one or two ways. He's gonna go
Speaker 1: get that back door. He's going to pick six media.
Speaker 2: That's fine. I mean, just give me a shot. I mean,
Speaker 2: we know Fennix can't Pennis can't move anyways, and he
Speaker 2: had a he got like hypercent on his knee. You know,
Speaker 2: once that dude can't get anything on his knees, you're done.
Speaker 2: So let's let's watch that going forward, because you know, he.
Speaker 1: Came into the he came in his career with three
Speaker 1: bad knees already, so he's had forty two surgeries on
Speaker 1: both knees. Yeah, I think I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: even think he has actually real knees left. I think
Speaker 1: they're both amputated at this point.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I'm joking, but I'm serious, like
Speaker 2: like that might be something to watch with Jets.
Speaker 1: Their like that's he literally played eighteen years in college
Speaker 1: because he had so many fucking knee surgeries. He changed
Speaker 1: forty two times. Yeah, so it's like he already can't
Speaker 1: move right there. They're already fucked going in and he's
Speaker 1: in year two. Yeah, that was like the so the one,
Speaker 1: the two innings I dig to see on the at
Speaker 1: least when I'm on my phone in the uber going
Speaker 1: home was the red zone of the Jets and the
Speaker 1: fucking Eagles game. And the Jets had so many chances,
Speaker 1: so many chances. Well, I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: they stay so close with Carolina scored all those fucking points,
Speaker 1: but somehow they stayed in the game. They had every
Speaker 1: chance in the world, and Tyrod Taylor just would not
Speaker 1: stop throwing interceptions in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Not Tyrod, get the buck, not tyr. Yeah, no, it
Speaker 2: was justin Bilsa had that.
Speaker 1: No, Tyrod came in and through two fucking interceptions in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter after Fields got benched. Taylor, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at it.
Speaker 2: I thought I saw that it was justin Fields with
Speaker 2: both interceptions. Yeah, oh my bad, Sorry, you're right, check that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: ty I mean that's you know that Tyrod comes in
Speaker 2: and like at least you know tread's water. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that is probably another another way to get fucked by.
Speaker 1: That's what I was like. It's like, all right, thank
Speaker 1: god they finally pulled Fields. Tyrod's in maybe just maybe
Speaker 1: he goes Yeah, all right, they're making mead and the
Speaker 1: boom interceptions Like fuck. But then of course Carolina can't
Speaker 1: pick up the first down, so I'm like, ah, that's
Speaker 1: why I put it back to us to kid the ball,
Speaker 1: get the ball back. Bam. Another session, the Carolina still
Speaker 1: couldn't pick up the first God damn it. Let's finally
Speaker 1: kicked a field goal, which didn't help me. Ah, but anyway,
Speaker 1: I hear you great Sunday. It is great Sunday.
Speaker 2: Hey, you got a great Saturday this, so you gotta
Speaker 2: gota take the wins where you get them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I traded water. Just push money back and forth
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty weeks.
Speaker 2: So red hot, red hot in college.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the r You fucking kidding men.
Speaker 1: I've used all my energy up already, but I was
Speaker 1: pretty hot when I wrote this. Note h This was
Speaker 1: on Clemson minus nine and a half. I gave out.
Speaker 1: It was dead in the water. As soon as the
Speaker 1: news breaks the club is not playing. Yeah closed it
Speaker 1: like minus three and a half. Mine losing games where
Speaker 1: I get bad breaks or whatever. You know, shit happens.
Speaker 1: It's fucking football, all that shit. It kind of equals out.
Speaker 1: But this college football injury reporting system now that all
Speaker 1: these kids make money. Now that gambling's legal, I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear any more bullshit about protecting kids. Blah
Speaker 1: a fucking blaw. This publicly traded, fucking marketplace. This information
Speaker 1: needs to be regulated and put out, just like it
Speaker 1: is in the NFL. This is in criminal, in fact
Speaker 1: to not do it it actually fucking is. So at
Speaker 1: some point somebody is gonna bring a lawsuit about this,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna fucking be right, and they're gonna fucking
Speaker 1: win a lot of fucking money because you cannot withhold
Speaker 1: information like this.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Yeah, I can fly. Well, we'll do that.
Speaker 1: I've so I'm blorrid, uh. I mean, look, Longhorn, is
Speaker 1: no my feelings about this. For a long time, I've
Speaker 1: I've been on College's ass for getting us better information
Speaker 1: like the NFL has to do, because it's always been
Speaker 1: bat somewhere right legal in Vegas place. But you don't
Speaker 1: owe any allusions to an illegal marketplace. I'm not saying that.
Speaker 1: But now that it's legal, and now that we pay
Speaker 1: all these kids above board, then I'm tired. I don't
Speaker 1: want to hear anything more but well, we gotta protect
Speaker 1: the kids. And the intererogrit of the If you don't
Speaker 1: want your student athlete, fuck you, fuck you. They're not
Speaker 1: student athletes. They're literally professional athletes at this point, especially
Speaker 1: when you're the fucking quarterback of Clemson. So go fuck
Speaker 1: yourself and all your fake fucking integrity and all your
Speaker 1: fake fucking will we do it for the kids. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear that bullshits. You're all full of
Speaker 1: fucking shits. You all do it fucking for big fat,
Speaker 1: fucking paychecks. I'm tired of some Something has got to
Speaker 1: change about this. This market has to be regulated to
Speaker 1: at least some degree of control, because it's still the wild,
Speaker 1: wild fucking West, where you have to know Joe Bob,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Bob and Billy Bob and all their fucking cousins
Speaker 1: around some of these goddamn universities to get any fucking
Speaker 1: information at all that's reliable. With the fuck that you
Speaker 1: can't just find people fake you know, tweeting fake ship
Speaker 1: out on Twitter.
Speaker 2: All knows if you took if you took Clemson, oh man.
Speaker 1: But again it's that that's so yeah, nine and three
Speaker 1: two with a with a guaranteed loss, like just dead
Speaker 1: in the water before it ever you fucking And that's
Speaker 1: another thing too, like somebody message on I go, oh,
Speaker 1: do you still like Clemson at minus three and a half? Like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. Don't fucking play that ship.
Speaker 2: You could have played the other side and done the
Speaker 2: done the Polish medal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what. I thought about doing that. Then
Speaker 1: I was like, if.
Speaker 2: I do that, it's gonna go land right in the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is gonna fuck me even harder. I said, now
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just gonna take my loss half
Speaker 1: faith that we're gonna have a good day and say
Speaker 1: fuck it and just say.
Speaker 2: Whoop the hell, whoop the hell?
Speaker 1: All right, longer you got anything else us? All right,
Speaker 1: boys and girls. That was the good the bad? Are
Speaker 1: you fucking kidding? All right? Tim for some look ahead?
Speaker 1: And now I was like, pull up some NFL lines
Speaker 1: over here. See what the early ship's doing. Now we
Speaker 1: have some like this here we go. All right, So
Speaker 1: Thursday night, Vikings Chargers. I mean, what ship bag do
Speaker 1: you fucking take there? I don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you already you already said the Chargers
Speaker 2: are not a good football team, so they can't be
Speaker 2: favored at home. Then or they can't be favored. They're
Speaker 2: a bad football at home in fact, So that's what's
Speaker 2: the travel on that is this fall into the travel
Speaker 2: thing probably does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what it's gonna keep.
Speaker 2: It makes it. That makes it a good charger spot.
Speaker 1: It's a great chargers spot, just like last week is
Speaker 1: great chargers. What else you're looking at?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, fucking Jets are seven point dogs at Cincy?
Speaker 2: Holy shit?
Speaker 1: How bad do you have to be?
Speaker 2: Look at all these My first thought is almost every
Speaker 2: line is seven points, Like, like, what what the fuck?
Speaker 1: They're all seven fourteen to the Titans.
Speaker 2: Yep, free square. I can only say right now, free
Speaker 2: pick coming ending my sport by that time fifteen and
Speaker 2: a half. So it's that's your pre square, that's your
Speaker 2: look ahead free pick for the podcast. Mark you know
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be one hundred percent. I haven't had a
Speaker 2: good chance. I've I've got two games going tonight, so
Speaker 2: on certain things, I haven't had a good chance to
Speaker 2: look ahead. Yeah, no, clearly out for the rest. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's just about to say ten and a half at KC,
Speaker 2: Like that can't be a Jaden Daniels line. There's no way,
Speaker 2: no that's so you're just gonna have to watch the
Speaker 2: podcast on Thursday because we are just we're ill prepared.
Speaker 2: Just too money night games. What do you I mean?
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're doing too many games late
Speaker 2: in the week. We're not ready yet.
Speaker 1: Two at least there's not too many in football games.
Speaker 1: I think this doesn't have to be the last time
Speaker 1: of that bullshit.
Speaker 2: I hope.
Speaker 1: So are only seven point dogs at the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Look at this first look, here's nothing stands out. Look
Speaker 2: at this noon Slate. Those are some of the worst
Speaker 2: fucking games you could ever imagine. That is gonna be
Speaker 2: hard to watch. I hope these end up being close
Speaker 2: games because on paper, that is fucking disgusting.
Speaker 1: Oh, Lamar must be Wait what is this? The Mars
Speaker 1: went back after the by there's laying six and a
Speaker 1: half agaus the Bears.
Speaker 2: I'm showing seven, So it's it's moving that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Lamar is definitely coming back.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like I get seven on Chicago. I'm
Speaker 2: interested in that the way the way that they're playing
Speaker 2: right now, and Lamar is gonna be you know, you
Speaker 2: would think Rusty coming off coming off injury, So I
Speaker 2: can get down with that.
Speaker 1: But those red hot Panthers, well you're at home.
Speaker 2: Well you're kidding, but they're at home. This is their
Speaker 2: sweet spot. So yeah, seven and a half at home.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm interested in that as a as an early lean,
Speaker 2: I'm interested in New England at home. Fade Cleveland on
Speaker 2: the road. That's their that's their fath spot. So yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll find some things. Oh and I'm and watching the
Speaker 2: game on Sunday, I was like, man, Dallas is gonna
Speaker 2: be a great fade team next week. They're blowing out
Speaker 2: the Redskins. This is just fade them. And then here
Speaker 2: they go, They're going to Denver. It's the low number.
Speaker 2: I'm looking to fade Dallas there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude. How So, there was two coaches that I
Speaker 1: thought for sure by the time we came on the
Speaker 1: air tonight would be fired. Coach Logic and Coach day Ball.
Speaker 1: How you give up thirty three points in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter to lose then scored all game? You give thirty
Speaker 1: three points in one quarter to lose a game? I
Speaker 1: was like sick. It was like some something like sixteen
Speaker 1: hundred and eight straight wins where teams went up by
Speaker 1: eighteen in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a wild ass That was a wild
Speaker 2: ass game, back and forth, lead changes, just just chaos.
Speaker 2: That was. That was. That was a weird one.
Speaker 1: No, it wasn't at all. It was. It was a
Speaker 1: dead ass ass whipping for literally for four quarters and
Speaker 1: then in the fourth quarter it was wild. Old Knicks
Speaker 1: was sparing everybody to death for what he does. That's
Speaker 1: what he does. You give up thirty three points to
Speaker 1: the checkdown merchant in one quarter? How is that even
Speaker 1: fucking possible? And Jackson Dart played good man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just made that one mistake it was. It was.
Speaker 2: It was one ill avised throw that that kind of
Speaker 2: gave life in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: Three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't play that good. It's just weird game.
Speaker 1: For really good.
Speaker 2: No, they've got they've got the future, you know, at
Speaker 2: least at least shot at at franchise quarterback with him,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: God damn you even scored thirteen in the fourth and
Speaker 1: you still lost. I mean, deb had He should have
Speaker 1: been fired the second his fat ass landed in New York, Like,
Speaker 1: can't lose that game, bro, can lose that game.
Speaker 2: Well, they're not a good team yet. So that's and
Speaker 2: the long in the big scheme of things, that's actually
Speaker 2: better for him. Get just get up, get a high
Speaker 2: draft pick. You don't want to win meaningless games, and
Speaker 2: picking the middle of the first round late.
Speaker 1: Middle fucking I was gonna be pissed at Denver for
Speaker 1: our season total thing, because and then Giants would have
Speaker 1: a shot. But yeah, I was also kind of slightly
Speaker 1: gonna be happy because I knew a lot of people
Speaker 1: had Denver and survivors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, green Bay, green Bay flirted with with with getting
Speaker 2: knocked out too. They were flirting in Arizona for a
Speaker 2: long time because once again green Bay that they're they're
Speaker 2: they're a good bet against team because because people think
Speaker 2: they're better than they are right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that they're not showing out though, I
Speaker 1: think if they're building towards something peaking at the right time.
Speaker 2: We gotta we got a smash Tomlin spot. By the way,
Speaker 2: Sunday night, three point dog at home that that this
Speaker 2: is a that's a Tomlin game, and coming off a loss,
Speaker 2: and coming off a loss it was Thursday, so extended
Speaker 2: rest coming off a loss home dog that that I
Speaker 2: can I can already tell you this is gonna be
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a you know which way I'm going.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure. Yeah, that that was a really a game,
Speaker 1: that Thursday night game. It usually aren't. That was a
Speaker 1: fucking great game.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I did like the fact that Flaco at the very
Speaker 1: end after it was over, he came up and gave
Speaker 1: Aaron a hose. Hey man, I think that's the first
Speaker 1: time I've ever got you.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, that's the old It was the old man bow.
Speaker 1: It was the old man Bo. But hey man, we
Speaker 1: saw an entertaining fucking game. It turns out that uh
Speaker 1: flackho can still play when he has the best fucking
Speaker 1: receiver duo in the goddamn league.
Speaker 2: And these old dudes can still sling it if he
Speaker 2: if if they got someone to throw it to and
Speaker 2: someone to throw it too.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. All right, Longhorn, I'll telling about that
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