Speaker 1: We're in wait.
Speaker 2: This is your captain speaking.
Speaker 1: If you look out to your left, you'll see a
Speaker 1: beautiful view of the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 3: Far the.
Speaker 1: Work show. I write this, no, I can't have somebody
Speaker 1: down to you.
Speaker 3: I am I going. My only must phoned us?
Speaker 1: Who sent that thing? Of course, now that amis didn't
Speaker 1: come here by accident.
Speaker 2: They were running from what then things turned back?
Speaker 3: What's his name?
Speaker 4: Then we have something he needs?
Speaker 1: Longest said in the last school, every thing will and
Speaker 1: maybe we disguise and then who? Why did you keep
Speaker 1: people out?
Speaker 2: Whats wrongs?
Speaker 3: They come a long way?
Speaker 1: It won be here.
Speaker 3: It's like cool, this world can survive. You stay together.
Speaker 3: But I need him. You're bad people. We're always There
Speaker 3: comes a time in every man's life where do you
Speaker 3: have to make a sacrifice.
Speaker 1: I'm with you to the end.
Speaker 2: Always.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is all the money.
Speaker 3: That we have. You keep Welcome me fight, I det my.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Projection Booth. I'm your host, Mike White
Speaker 1: on this special crossover event. I am joined by the
Speaker 1: Culture Cast Christaschue we On. I am also joined by
Speaker 1: Midnight Viewings Antonio Ye thanks for having me and Midnight
Speaker 1: Viewings Father.
Speaker 2: Alone this movie doesn't represent the lomb diminishing returns. It
Speaker 2: represents awe of my increasing rage.
Speaker 4: Well he's burying the lead right then and there, folks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, cutting to the chase. Not even hello, just this
Speaker 3: movie start.
Speaker 4: This movie sucks, Folks.
Speaker 2: Jesus you know who I am. We've all met.
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Speaker 1: of Venom the Last Dance. In this episode, we unravel
Speaker 1: the wild journey of Eddie Brock and his iconic symbiote
Speaker 1: as they face their toughest battles yet. From intense confrontations
Speaker 1: to unexpected alliances. We'll explore the story's dark twists and
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Speaker 1: set the gripping narrative, mind blowing visuals, and unforgettable moments
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Speaker 4: Okay, So where the fuck did that come from? Did
Speaker 4: you have AI righte? That for you?
Speaker 1: Chris? What did you think a Venom three aka Venom
Speaker 1: the Last Dance?
Speaker 4: I was disappointed that there wasn't enough Michael Jordan in
Speaker 4: the movie. That's how Michael Jordan. Isn't that not what
Speaker 4: this is?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 4: The Last Dance references is that? Oh yeah, right, there
Speaker 4: was that Michael Jordan documentary that came out like two
Speaker 4: years ago. That wasn't Michael Jordan The Last Dance?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, I know what they're getting at with the title
Speaker 4: of the movie. I thought it was it was a
Speaker 4: pretty gay movie. Well really, I found this to be
Speaker 4: a very oddly homosexual film in a way that the
Speaker 4: other Venom movies, at least the second and third one were.
Speaker 4: The first one not so much, but definitely the second one.
Speaker 4: The first one was like, hey, we have to have
Speaker 4: a love interest, and then this one's The last two
Speaker 4: have been like the love interest is venom. That's the
Speaker 4: that's the point, y'all.
Speaker 3: Isn't the second one have a whole plot about them
Speaker 3: breaking up? And yeah? I mean yeah?
Speaker 4: And then this one is, you know, the the death
Speaker 4: of the relationship, you know, the sacrifice of one for
Speaker 4: the other. I think I probably enjoyed it more than
Speaker 4: at least Father Malone, but he let the cat out
Speaker 4: of the mag early. I don't know about y'all. I
Speaker 4: thought it was fun. I actually enjoy these Venom movies
Speaker 4: a fair amount. I think that Tom Hardy as Venom
Speaker 4: is a weird choice that works. I think that there's
Speaker 4: some cheats in this movie that are cheats, and I
Speaker 4: think we were now seeing the multi versus cheats and
Speaker 4: I'm sick and fucking tired of it, kind of like
Speaker 4: Venom says in the movie, I'm thinking this multi versus shit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: me too, dude. Other than that, I thought it was
Speaker 4: a perfectly fine movie. It is a very weird comic
Speaker 4: book movie for twenty twenty four. But I will say,
Speaker 4: for as much as Marvel's stuff, Marvel's MCU stuff has
Speaker 4: been very same me, which it has for quite some
Speaker 4: time now, at least the Sony's stuff, the Sony Spider
Speaker 4: Man stuff, as bad as most of it has been
Speaker 4: Kauugh cough, Madam Web cough cough, Morbius, at least they're
Speaker 4: kind of entertaining in a very strange way. And I'm
Speaker 4: not saying they're good, They're just entertaining. And who the
Speaker 4: fuck is making a comic book movie like this in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, because these have sensibilities of those like
Speaker 4: early two thousand Spider Man movies or early two thousand
Speaker 4: superhero movies like those X Men movies and the Spider
Speaker 4: Man movies and the Fantastic Four movies. I think it's
Speaker 4: a weird movie. Again. I don't know what to make
Speaker 4: of a movie where they have a dance number with venom. Again,
Speaker 4: it's not for everybody. I think in a lot of ways,
Speaker 4: it will be yet another weird entry into Sony's Spider Man,
Speaker 4: whatever the hell they're doing without Spider Man. But I
Speaker 4: thought it was fun within reason, and it's only an
Speaker 4: hour and a half, which is nice compared to every
Speaker 4: other MCU thing, which quoks in it two hours bare
Speaker 4: minimum because why, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And Antonio, how about yourself.
Speaker 3: I felt like it was an eighties movie. I had
Speaker 3: that kind of vibe too, and I think that's what
Speaker 3: it was, kind of like an eighties, you know, buddy movie,
Speaker 3: either on the road or YadA YadA YadA. Here's a
Speaker 3: stupid musical number for no reason. Here's some here running
Speaker 3: into the lady from the last movie, just randomly playing,
Speaker 3: you know, playing a playing poker on one of the machines.
Speaker 3: I just it was terrible. I ain't gonna lie. It's
Speaker 3: not a great movie. I haven't liked any of them.
Speaker 3: But if you separate yourself from it being then I
Speaker 3: guess it's a pretty entertaining monster comedy, right, that's kind
Speaker 3: of how it plays. But you know, I was nine,
Speaker 3: ten eleven whenever when Venom dropped, right, I remember that
Speaker 3: first issue that I had with him, and it was
Speaker 3: I didn't get the first I didn't have that three
Speaker 3: hundred number three hundred Spider Man, but I had one
Speaker 3: or two afterwards. It's been kidnapped, Mary Jane and as
Speaker 3: the first time I had seen pot Parland draws Spider Man,
Speaker 3: and I was blown away. Like I had seen him
Speaker 3: in other stuff at DC, but out and he was
Speaker 3: this threat. He was his arch nemesis. He was this
Speaker 3: evil kind of character. And even when they like Storm
Speaker 3: shadowed him in the nineties there, like when you know
Speaker 3: I turned him into a good guy out of nowhere,
Speaker 3: he still had a redemption arc. You know he's okay.
Speaker 3: So I was this awful guy and I'm trying to
Speaker 3: do better now movie Venom, it just is. I guess
Speaker 3: I don't think Spider Man three is all that great,
Speaker 3: but I do like Telfer Graces about him. I liked
Speaker 3: his evil Peter Parker. He was a jerk. There was
Speaker 3: a reason for that hatred towards him. I mean obviously
Speaker 3: that just the thing just dropping out of the sky
Speaker 3: while Peter Parker's riding his boatbed is ridiculous. But it
Speaker 3: looked cool. It looked like body Horror a little bit.
Speaker 3: And this movie, say, they aren't very gross. It's very
Speaker 3: kind of generic. CG.
Speaker 1: I don't know what nell is.
Speaker 3: They just said, okay, here's this force from another dimension?
Speaker 3: Is was the crossover with Spider Man down and then
Speaker 3: and finally you have the delight of having the guy
Speaker 3: from ted Lasso in that movie and you use him
Speaker 3: for three minutes.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know, there's a lot of ted
Speaker 4: Lasso in this movie, to be fair. And do you
Speaker 4: know Temples?
Speaker 3: Also?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know Temples.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what they were, just like, hey, ted Lasso's popular.
Speaker 4: We'll just put like half of the main cast from
Speaker 4: that show in this movie, all.
Speaker 3: Right, not gonna lie. I did a day of background
Speaker 3: on it, and I couldn't like and I did that
Speaker 3: the scene where they show up in Vegas, I was there,
Speaker 3: but I'm not in the movie at all. My buddy,
Speaker 3: and of Pather Malone's Palo Match Chef Road as an
Speaker 3: actor in town. You see him he walks behind in
Speaker 3: a two shot there, he walks behind Tom Hardy and
Speaker 3: Receie Fens. But I like Recens. I thought he was
Speaker 3: gonna be the lizard. But I guess he wasn't the lizard.
Speaker 3: He was just some rando Tom Hardy. But that's the thing.
Speaker 3: But it's a prop. At the point that Chris brought up,
Speaker 3: Tom Hardy is really good though, like he makes the
Speaker 3: movie entertaining. Venom is a creature is entertaining. It's just
Speaker 3: not the venom my girl up in a comic book with.
Speaker 3: But Tom Hardy is just like weird Eddie's fun. Tom
Speaker 3: Hardy reminds me of Nicholas Cage. And then anything that
Speaker 3: they're gonna be in the performance is gonna be weird
Speaker 3: enough that you're gonna at least be entertained by it.
Speaker 3: And we go for ninety minutes. That's great. That's where
Speaker 3: the eighties movie being came from.
Speaker 1: To somebody father.
Speaker 2: Alone, how about you, sir, I'm gonna just start with
Speaker 2: what I liked about the movie. The xenophage, the creatures
Speaker 2: that are hunting them when they eat somebody they like
Speaker 2: arasoll the blood out of the back of their head.
Speaker 2: That was awesome. I like seeing Elena Ubach and anything,
Speaker 2: even as misguided as their character is here in the movie.
Speaker 2: And I guess that's about it. No, Tom Hardy obviously, yes,
Speaker 2: all those things, and the look of Venom himself. I
Speaker 2: just kept wondering why this movie is called Venom because
Speaker 2: we don't really get a lot of him. This is
Speaker 2: the movie I was. I kept wondering why it wasn't
Speaker 2: just Venom most of the time and Tom Hardy popping
Speaker 2: out and every once in a while instead of the reverse.
Speaker 2: There seems to be less and less of Venom in
Speaker 2: these movies, rather unusual, and to hear the conceit is
Speaker 2: that they can't even bond because that attracts the creatures,
Speaker 2: so like they've given themselves this excuse not to fully venom.
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a budget constraint or whatever.
Speaker 2: But like the thing where they have Venom's head talking
Speaker 2: to him, I think is great, and I know they
Speaker 2: started that in the previous one, but their friendship is fantastic.
Speaker 2: But to Antonio's point, this ain't Venom. Man. I owned
Speaker 2: an action figure of Venom that when you pushed a
Speaker 2: button said.
Speaker 3: I want to eat your breathe.
Speaker 2: That's Venom. Also Null, by the way, part of the
Speaker 2: retrofitting of Venom was Null is the creator of the
Speaker 2: Symbiates and the Zenos.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's like in the last ten years, which is
Speaker 4: fucking wild that they introduce it here, because so much
Speaker 4: of what they've done with Venom up unto this point
Speaker 4: has just been nineties stuff. And then they're like, oh,
Speaker 4: by the way, here is the King of the Symbiotes,
Speaker 4: which is a thing that literally, I'm not even joking.
Speaker 4: It was a thing that was in the last ten
Speaker 4: years because it was the big they did a big
Speaker 4: marvel for the entire universe. They did an entire event
Speaker 4: and he it was like Planet Venom or something to
Speaker 4: that effect, and he was the main villain in that.
Speaker 4: But to your point, But to your point, all it
Speaker 4: does is they owe now Venom's a good guy in everything.
Speaker 4: Venom's a good guy. There's no villain Venom anymore in anything,
Speaker 4: even in the comic books now because of this character,
Speaker 4: and now they're doing it in the movies as well.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 3: What they've done, I mean, yeah, he's started being a
Speaker 3: villain in the nineties though.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that whole Lethal Protectors, Like I was,
Speaker 4: Now all the Symbiotes are good guys, is my point.
Speaker 4: It's not just Venom, it's now you're seeing the way
Speaker 4: they've treated it in the comic book as the way
Speaker 4: they're treating it in the movie, where all the symbiotes
Speaker 4: are seemingly heroes and the villain is this overarching character.
Speaker 4: So it's all, we just understand that the symbiotes ever,
Speaker 4: but he loves the symbiotes. Of course we do. But
Speaker 4: that's that oversaturation thing. They just wanted to have Captain
Speaker 4: America's Venom and Iron Man is Venom and Hulk's Venom,
Speaker 4: which happened in the comic book as well.
Speaker 3: By the way, Dad Nogay, he just looks like a
Speaker 3: Japanese video game cut scene, like like a Final Fantasy
Speaker 3: game or something with that hair and traumatic pauses or
Speaker 3: anything that is that supposed to crossover into Tom Holland's
Speaker 3: MCU universe or No.
Speaker 2: It's quite clear this entire movie is the setup for
Speaker 2: a new trilogy of Symbiot movies.
Speaker 4: With Juno Temple as the lead.
Speaker 2: Absolutely that's all I was. The entire time. I was like,
Speaker 2: this does not feel like the third film in a trilogy.
Speaker 2: This feels like the prologue for a future adventures of
Speaker 2: the Symbiots in the Sony universe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what did you think, Bike, Well, apparently I
Speaker 1: like this movie a lot more than y'all.
Speaker 4: Did I enjoy, Mike, I don't know. I seem to
Speaker 4: enjoy it quite a bit. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I went back and rewatched the first two, which I've
Speaker 1: seen some times, mostly the first one. I'm not huge
Speaker 1: on Carnage. My background with Venom is. I mean, I
Speaker 1: was there for the Secret Wars the first one, and
Speaker 1: you know, the Black Suit and the Beyonder giving that
Speaker 1: to him and all these things, and then Spider Man
Speaker 1: waking up very tired in the morning, doesn't know what's
Speaker 1: going on, and finding out that Symbio has life, you know,
Speaker 1: goes to the Baxter Building, gets it removed. Eventually, you know,
Speaker 1: Venom arrives. But I think I was kind of out
Speaker 1: of comic books by the time even Carnage showed up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Venom was still a bad guy when I
Speaker 1: was reading comics, and Carnage was the bad guy. Coming
Speaker 1: out of all that. I really had hoped for more
Speaker 1: when it came to that witty Harrelson movie, even though
Speaker 1: that was absolutely ridiculous, especially that they changed his hair
Speaker 1: between the first movie and the second movie with that
Speaker 1: amazing Ronald MacDonald wig that he was wearing.
Speaker 4: So I was my biggest disappointment that second movie.
Speaker 1: It's going to be Carnage.
Speaker 4: I'm just an average guy with a really big dick.
Speaker 3: But Mike brings up an interesting point is that he
Speaker 3: was out of a comics by time Carnage shut Up
Speaker 3: and stuff. But that's when I was like a high
Speaker 3: school kid or whatever, and that was a multi media event.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, there was no movie, but there was a Carnage
Speaker 3: Maximum Carnage video game. There was I mean there was
Speaker 3: a Sega game and there was a coin op. It
Speaker 3: ended up on the oh, we ended up on the cartoon.
Speaker 3: It was like this big event, you know, it was
Speaker 3: a huge thing. And I think you just see all
Speaker 3: of this Vendom stuff and all these Sydians and Spider
Speaker 3: Man's up there. There's no reference to Spider Man anywhere,
Speaker 3: and it just it just takes away from a minute.
Speaker 3: We'll tied for me, to like, I know four without
Speaker 3: Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Well, that was a really weird thing to have that
Speaker 1: extra scene at the end of Venom two where Eddie
Speaker 1: suddenly goes into the main mc YOU universe timeline and
Speaker 1: sees j Jonah Jamison sees Tom Holland as Spider Man
Speaker 1: on the TV, and it just it doesn't make sense
Speaker 1: unless Eddie Brock is the same Eddie Brock as Toe
Speaker 1: for Grace. It doesn't make sense for him to have
Speaker 1: been transported to that universe because it's only for people
Speaker 1: who know the identity of Spider Man, So him showing
Speaker 1: up really doesn't make sense. Same thing with Electro I
Speaker 1: mean to be it really should have been Vulture showing
Speaker 1: up in that universe.
Speaker 4: But remember when Vulture showed up at the end of Morvius. Yes, sure,
Speaker 4: make any sense And that was Vulture from the MCU.
Speaker 4: Yeah once again.
Speaker 1: And he doesn't even know what the hell he's doing there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this whole thing, and then I love how
Speaker 1: they just undo it within the first five minutes of
Speaker 1: Venom three, Okay, and yeah to see who is it
Speaker 1: Sammy No, I can't remember the name of the angel
Speaker 1: the football this life guy Ni Rojas Yes, that was
Speaker 1: so great to see him show up and I was
Speaker 1: super excited. Yeah, but that was funny, and yeah, they
Speaker 1: just they set up so many challenges for themselves as
Speaker 1: far as we can't go back to San Francisco, we
Speaker 1: can't go to New York. I kept thinking that they
Speaker 1: were going to go finally end up in New York,
Speaker 1: and yeah, this whole thing of we can't be venom
Speaker 1: because these creatures will know that we're around, but we
Speaker 1: show Yeah, we do become venom just in order to
Speaker 1: kick the plot into gear. But I don't know, I
Speaker 1: still like it. It's dumb as donkey dick, as the kids say,
Speaker 1: but I really like these movies, and I even like
Speaker 1: the Resa fans part. Even though Yeah, to your point, Antonio,
Speaker 1: I thought that he was maybe gonna turn into lizard,
Speaker 1: and then having chew Hotel Edgia four him here too,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, is he a secret wizard here?
Speaker 4: It's weird how many people who have been in other
Speaker 4: MCU things are in this movie. However, I will say
Speaker 4: at this point it's a very short list of people
Speaker 4: that haven't been in the MCU.
Speaker 2: Like a thirty MCU movies, Like everyone's fucking been in
Speaker 2: them by now, so of course they're gonna start crossing over.
Speaker 2: And you know what, that's my point with Chaiwitel eisenfour.
Speaker 2: He's playing Rex Strickland, who is like a major character
Speaker 2: now or at least for a while with you know,
Speaker 2: he has bonded with a symbia and and is like
Speaker 2: an ass kicker, and they just sort of spoilers everybody.
Speaker 2: They just fucking waste him. At the end of this movie,
Speaker 2: I was like, why did they even call him Strickland?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was odd because even for me not being
Speaker 1: part of the comics culture for the last few years,
Speaker 1: I still knew the name. I was like, oh, major Strickland, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know that guy.
Speaker 3: Well, I guess I can I equate the actor crossover
Speaker 3: to like reading John Byrne comics in the eighties when
Speaker 3: I was a kid, Like where you know, he just
Speaker 3: drew Superman and Mister Fantastic for everybody, So we can't
Speaker 3: help Maybe that's just it, you know, they just look alike.
Speaker 4: But I mean also again, literally at this point, to
Speaker 4: your point, father Malone, there's like so many MCU movies
Speaker 4: it's almost impossible to not have. But you know, the
Speaker 4: problem is obviously now because they've opened up the multiverse box.
Speaker 4: Now it's like, well, if Reciepens is in the movie,
Speaker 4: he must be the lizard or what you know, what
Speaker 4: y'ell edge you for, like he's fucking Mordoe. No, they're
Speaker 4: just they're not They're just themselves. They're just new characters altogether.
Speaker 4: Because initially Reciepens was supposed to was going to play
Speaker 4: Kiln Clint, Clint Eastwood kilt. He was going and that
Speaker 4: was the initial again rumor, but then it turns out
Speaker 4: it's just Andy serkis once again doing the voice of
Speaker 4: the character character.
Speaker 2: He's the name of the planet is killed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, so it's just Andy serkis once again
Speaker 4: doing the voice of a CGI character, just like he
Speaker 4: did in Star Wars.
Speaker 2: It's the new Pianos. Everybody. Wait, they just once he
Speaker 2: gets out, things are going to be really bad in
Speaker 2: that Sony universe.
Speaker 1: You know who could have been really bad is the
Speaker 1: god killer from Thor in Love and Thunder talking about
Speaker 1: a wasted character.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just coincidentally, Clint is his home planet.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Like he really reminds me of those two characters.
Speaker 1: Remind me of each other. Maybe it was the black
Speaker 1: and whiteness of it all or something, but I was like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: another one of these dudes. Okay, and yeah, no resolution
Speaker 1: with him, and I was like, oh, yes, he going
Speaker 1: to be well. I don't even know if we're going
Speaker 1: to make more of these Sony films or if now
Speaker 1: everything we'll find the revert over to Disney again. The
Speaker 1: Deadpool that we watched was just that big love letter
Speaker 1: to Fox's attempts. I was with the memories that Eddie
Speaker 1: has at the end of this film of him and
Speaker 1: Venom together. I was like, Okay, is this our last
Speaker 1: hurrah for this character before they go over to the
Speaker 1: Disney side of it?
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, when folks talk about superhero fatigue,
Speaker 3: I think a lot of that responsibility falls on on Sony, yes,
Speaker 3: for trying to put out basically joining to capitalize a
Speaker 3: regular Marvel universe by their with their crappy version, you know,
Speaker 3: and other attempts they've done Bloodshot or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: It's just you know, I mean, that has a lot
Speaker 3: to do. I think it is Marvel's product up until recently,
Speaker 3: has been pretty consistently good to eat and actually Marvel's
Speaker 3: product now is about the same it was ten years ago.
Speaker 3: It's just these are new characters, so there's more there's
Speaker 3: a bit more scrutiny out of it, I guess, but
Speaker 3: you know, and the funny thing is with the new stuff,
Speaker 3: I didn't like the stuff that most people don't. I
Speaker 3: thought she old it was great. I thought his Marvel
Speaker 3: was great. But you know, I don't like Loki Oh.
Speaker 3: I who know. At the end of the day, it's
Speaker 3: all of the taste. But I think the sow Me
Speaker 3: just with their crappy product is really damaged, pretty damaged.
Speaker 2: Jimpanie, you said this movie reminded you of a movie
Speaker 2: from the eighties. This reminded me specifically of a cannon
Speaker 2: attempt at making a superhero movie like circa nineteen eighties,
Speaker 2: having the script particularly just sort of a random honchponge
Speaker 2: and let's throw this in and oh, let's have a
Speaker 2: dance sequence here, and oh, you know, let's have this
Speaker 2: scene where Eddie makes a margarita with flipping bottles and
Speaker 2: tequila is playing, and we'll speed it up action like
Speaker 2: Benny Hill style.
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: This movie was confusing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a hodgepot It was like they got
Speaker 3: the rights to the character but didn't quite read all
Speaker 3: the stuff, and they just kind of picked kind of
Speaker 3: and chose what they kind of thought it was gonna be, like,
Speaker 3: had a real revenge of swamp thing kind of to it,
Speaker 3: but just swamp thing is damn good though.
Speaker 2: No, you know, it reminds me of that Dolph Lundgren punisher. Yeah, well, okay,
Speaker 2: he has a Shakespearean friend and he lives in a
Speaker 2: sewer why I don't know, why not? Did you read
Speaker 2: the comics? Now? Who cares?
Speaker 3: Yeah? With that opening seat of that Dolph Lugger Punisher
Speaker 3: is just fanpastic where he kittles all those mobsters in
Speaker 3: that house. Oh, that's great.
Speaker 4: And there's a couple.
Speaker 3: There's a couple in that fight at the end with
Speaker 3: against the Yakus. I was pretty good too, Man, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna lie, but they never get the punisher right. Anyways, Loos,
Speaker 3: what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Well, that's the question that I have speaking of that,
Speaker 4: So you're both talking about the fact that this is
Speaker 4: not Venom the way that Venom is in the comic books.
Speaker 4: This is gonna this is just me coming at this.
Speaker 4: That doesn't bother me. Anymore, because I don't really care
Speaker 4: because it's the movie and the comic book exists. If
Speaker 4: I think, however, what that I mean again, that's that's
Speaker 4: a more subjective thing. I'm more talking to the idea
Speaker 4: of if this were the MCU and that were the criticism,
Speaker 4: I would get it, because I hold the MCU to
Speaker 4: a different standard, because the MCU is trying to be
Speaker 4: the film definitive version of the characters, the same way
Speaker 4: the comic book base universe in the comic book is
Speaker 4: trying to be, you know, the through line character of
Speaker 4: Iron Man as he is and has been since he
Speaker 4: was introduced. Because there is still the original universe of
Speaker 4: the characters, ultimate universe and everything else aside, it doesn't
Speaker 4: bother me so much anymore. I understand. I get it.
Speaker 4: But at the same time, if this were the MCU
Speaker 4: version of Venom and he were this weird ass character,
Speaker 4: I would agree. I think if the MCU ever does it,
Speaker 4: which I assume and hope that they do, because this
Speaker 4: movie makes it pretty clear that this is not going
Speaker 4: to be the Venom of the MCU.
Speaker 3: Thankfully, Well, this is some of his black stuff on
Speaker 3: the bar.
Speaker 4: But that's no that's in that's in this universe, it
Speaker 4: gets left.
Speaker 2: He left a bit of himself in the last one too.
Speaker 4: But they didn't but they didn't show but they didn't
Speaker 4: show it in this movie.
Speaker 3: No, no, they do, but it's at the end of
Speaker 3: the Spider Man movie.
Speaker 4: Right, But I'm wondering if they, like I think they
Speaker 4: might have rent conned that out of the movie there. Well, no,
Speaker 4: I agree, Like, I agree, But my point being, like
Speaker 4: I think if there is going to be a Venom
Speaker 4: in the MCU, they will probably do something more akin
Speaker 4: to the original run of the character. And I don't
Speaker 4: think they've done it yet. I think that they will
Speaker 4: do it at some point. And so for me, like
Speaker 4: I said, I understand the criticisms like this isn't Venom
Speaker 4: the way I wanted it to be. But for me,
Speaker 4: it's like this is more just Tom Hardy being fucking
Speaker 4: Tom Hardy and being weird. It's again, the the problem
Speaker 4: with this movie really is that the name of the
Speaker 4: movie is Venom. That's the real problem.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing. I've been very vocal that I love,
Speaker 2: you know, every version cinematic version of a character, you know,
Speaker 2: just like I love every version of a comic book.
Speaker 2: You know, different artists, different writers take the characters in
Speaker 2: different directions. I have no truck with them not adhering
Speaker 2: to the comic book. In fact, I think Marvel, the
Speaker 2: cinematic Marvel works so well because they don't adhere to
Speaker 2: the character. They very quickly change anything for their characters
Speaker 2: so long as that. You know, BUCkies did like a
Speaker 2: twelve year old boy in the comic books, so so
Speaker 2: I think that's what works mainly with that.
Speaker 3: You know why I think the Marvel Universe, the MCU
Speaker 3: works so well is because and I just owe Kevin
Speaker 3: Vaye the master. I don't know if you guys have
Speaker 3: watched that show, The Franchise on HBO, but there's it's,
Speaker 3: you know, behind the scenes backstage of a superhero franchise movie,
Speaker 3: and the Kevin vaigeek figures always like living somewhere from
Speaker 3: his assistant. But the cool thing about Kevin Vaye is
Speaker 3: Kevin Vaye like these characters, convig. He likes the comic books,
Speaker 3: he likes the unit, you know, like he likes it.
Speaker 3: And I think the more successful Marvel movies usually work
Speaker 3: with people behind them that when they like the characters.
Speaker 3: I think, and you can see that. And you know,
Speaker 3: people making these Venom movies and it feels like they
Speaker 3: just don't like them very much. I'm just gonna do
Speaker 3: whatever with it. That's the vibe I get. But you
Speaker 3: watch them an MCU movie, you can tell that at
Speaker 3: the top there's a real love for what Jack Kirby
Speaker 3: and Steve Victo Steady created.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised, since we are headed towards another
Speaker 1: Secret Wars, well towards a Secret Wars movie, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if they pulled out Venom then that seems
Speaker 1: like it'd be a good time to also pay a
Speaker 1: little homage to the original, as long as they change
Speaker 1: out beyond Her and that incredible white Man perm that
Speaker 1: he had going on.
Speaker 2: I meant, I want to say that.
Speaker 4: I mean there is a fourth Venom movie coming. I mean,
Speaker 4: we know are fourth Excuse me, there is a fourth
Speaker 4: Spider Man and See You movie coming. They just announced
Speaker 4: it recently, so who knows if it will be It
Speaker 4: could be Venom. I mean again, they haven't said anything
Speaker 4: other than there will be a fourth Spider Man movie,
Speaker 4: which would lead me to believe they'll probably be a
Speaker 4: fifth and a sixth Spider Man movie.
Speaker 3: Take a second. The helm Holland is so good as
Speaker 3: Spider Man. Yeah, he is like that when I was
Speaker 3: a kid. That's that's who was in my head. Floating
Speaker 3: right is what Tom Holland is doing. Man, he's just spectacular.
Speaker 3: I'm excited to seem to be you know, college spider
Speaker 3: Man now with you know, having all these girl brothers stuff.
Speaker 1: Well it'll we'll finally get a chance maybe to meet
Speaker 1: Felicia Hardy and some of these other love interests that
Speaker 1: he said over the years.
Speaker 3: I was like, he said, Oh, I'm so down on
Speaker 3: my luck, but look at my parade of really hocker.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I'm just gonna like, what, Yeah, you pulled
Speaker 1: Stacy in Mary Jane. How the hell did you do that?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Chad recuts, Oh my god, Yeah.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying. I wonder if if that is how
Speaker 4: we'll get the introduction of I guess, have they had
Speaker 4: a Norman Osbourne. They haven't even had a normal I
Speaker 4: mean they had Norman Osbourne, but they haven't Norman Osbourne.
Speaker 3: Harry and Norman are going to be on the Freshman
Speaker 3: Year cartoon.
Speaker 1: Well it wasn't because Harry he was in the third
Speaker 1: movie showed up because I was yet another.
Speaker 4: Villain in New Goblin, right.
Speaker 1: And then we had that awful the kid from the
Speaker 1: Chronicle that looked like he was Dane.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're black on the cartoon. I think, Oh, interesting, Harry.
Speaker 1: Which is I'm writing an angry tweet about that, right, Stand.
Speaker 4: People get the.
Speaker 3: Williams Norman when he's like, I don't exist that universe
Speaker 3: where else?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: They haven't introduced those characters yet. So and in the
Speaker 4: Spider Man video game they actually take an interesting route
Speaker 4: and they actually have Harry Osborne is Venom in the
Speaker 4: video game.
Speaker 2: Well, and everybody in the comics at this point, well, yeah.
Speaker 4: He's been flashed Thompson And I mean right now in
Speaker 4: the comic book Eddie Eddie Brock is Carnage I believe.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, because Eddie Brock hasn't been Venom for
Speaker 4: quite some time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm thinking net venom, Ned's gonna be Venom
Speaker 3: or Hobgoblin or something like that.
Speaker 2: At Oh, I actually assume Ned's gonna be Hobgoblin.
Speaker 1: That would be interesting. Eddie Brock is an interesting character
Speaker 1: in these movies, and that he's not that right, you know,
Speaker 1: going back to even the second Venom movie, when Venom
Speaker 1: is basically teaching him how to be a reporter and
Speaker 1: gives them all the clues about where these bodies are buried.
Speaker 1: He looks at all these obscure drawings that what he
Speaker 1: Harrelson is doing, Kletus is doing, and brings us back
Speaker 1: and raws them all out, and he's just like, do
Speaker 1: I have to teach you your job? And I kind
Speaker 1: of like that. Eddie is he's pretty much a fuck up,
Speaker 1: you know, And it's basically both of them. In the
Speaker 1: first movie, Venom talks about how he's kind of a
Speaker 1: loser on his own planet, and I like it's these
Speaker 1: two losers together and having these delusions of brandeur, these
Speaker 1: delusions of what's their team up name lethal, Lethal Protector,
Speaker 1: Leather Protector. Yeah, just I think that's great. I kind
Speaker 1: of like that that they are these schlubs and really
Speaker 1: everything that can go wrong does go wrong for them.
Speaker 1: I kind of like that quite a bit. And I
Speaker 1: didn't mind the whole idea of bringing all the symbiotes
Speaker 1: together and having that big fight at the end. I
Speaker 1: can see where some people would say that was a
Speaker 1: ridiculous fight, but I thought it was great. I really
Speaker 1: like to see all the venoms, all the symbiotes going
Speaker 1: at it. I thought that was pretty cool, and I
Speaker 1: was kind of it was like a little bit like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've seen a two headed symbia before, I've seen this,
Speaker 1: the one that you know, Temple plays like, I think
Speaker 1: I've seen Agony for Yeah, I'm just like, oh, these
Speaker 1: are kind of cool character designs, so that was nice
Speaker 1: to see them.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I true to the comics too, like they're very like
Speaker 4: straight up pretty much just I would say up converted versions.
Speaker 4: They don't do much with them, which is nice. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying, Like they don't do much, Like
Speaker 4: they're not really but that's it's okay. I don't know
Speaker 4: if they made some broad sweeping changes and tried to
Speaker 4: do that fan forestick version where it's like it's gonna
Speaker 4: be more body horror and realistic. I think I might
Speaker 4: have been checked out from a movie like this because
Speaker 4: this movie, I don't know, this movie feels cartoony, like
Speaker 4: it feels like a live action cartoon in a lot
Speaker 4: of ways, almost to the point where I kind of
Speaker 4: wish it had been more so but I feel like
Speaker 4: then it would just be like, well, then it's just
Speaker 4: a straight comedy, and people would probably have checked out
Speaker 4: even more so. But I would almost go as far
Speaker 4: as to say the tone of these movies is like
Speaker 4: a comedic superhero movie. They're like like straight up comedies
Speaker 4: almost right, Like.
Speaker 1: This whole movie is about shoes. From the very beginning
Speaker 1: of the die our shoes, Yeah, And it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: he loses his Yeah, he's got the shoes, he loses those,
Speaker 1: He gets these other shoes, he loses those. Even when
Speaker 1: he's being pulled out of that Vegas penthouse, he goes
Speaker 1: my shoes. And then even when we see and I
Speaker 1: can't remember the actress's name, but she's Juno Temple's assistant,
Speaker 1: Christmas Tree, Like the first thing we see her do
Speaker 1: is coming to her office, take off her shoes, put
Speaker 1: these shoes on the shelf, and there's such a prominent
Speaker 1: close up of the shoes, and I think that's supposed
Speaker 1: to tip us off later when she's wearing these ugly
Speaker 1: black crocs coming down into the laboratory and those are
Speaker 1: venom And so I'm like, five minutes before that, I
Speaker 1: leaned over to my wife, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: this whole movie's obsessed with shoes, and then that her
Speaker 1: shoes were venom. It's like, yeah, that's just kind of
Speaker 1: proves my point.
Speaker 3: And Eddie took those shoes at the end. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: was running out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very Quentin Tarantino of the movie.
Speaker 1: We get ups with shoes, not with feet, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: We get a whole lot of different variations of Venom
Speaker 2: here we get the venom horse and a venom frog
Speaker 2: and a venom fish, and none of them do anything,
Speaker 2: and they all just hint. That could have been an
Speaker 2: entirely different movie with Venom doing horrible things. During the
Speaker 2: end credits they have even further variations. At one they
Speaker 2: show a venom elephant, and I thought, where was the
Speaker 2: venom elephant rampaging through a fucking city? Like, why were
Speaker 2: we at decommissioned Area fifty one this fucking time? With this?
Speaker 2: You know, it's Chekhov's giant acid bath machine. If you
Speaker 2: introduce it in the opening, I have to use it
Speaker 2: in the end, and they sure do.
Speaker 1: Jesus, I don't even know why he was assetting, whether
Speaker 1: he was assetting at the beginning, I was like, what
Speaker 1: is the proce. Okay, sure, I don't know why, but okay.
Speaker 2: If Ba's were the method that they were using to
Speaker 2: destroy things, then why was it taking as long as
Speaker 2: it was. It seems like that was, you know, one
Speaker 2: day's work and no more. Area fifty one when you're
Speaker 2: using the acid bath.
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of stuff that happened in
Speaker 3: this movie or a result of studio notes. What's her
Speaker 3: missus Lee or what is that her name?
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I think it is missus Lee. I also
Speaker 1: want to call her missus Chen for some reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, where he runs but when he runs into her,
Speaker 3: sorry missus Chen. Yeah, when he runs into her in
Speaker 3: the casino and they have the dance stom Berger and
Speaker 3: all that stuff, I feel like there's a studio note
Speaker 3: in there, you know. Can we Yeah, the nice lady
Speaker 3: from part two show up because I feel like this
Speaker 3: movie needs something fun and they just say, okay, well
Speaker 3: she's a vagus.
Speaker 2: I actually think that's Tom Hardy's contribution to the script myself.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, he has story by credits, he sure he does.
Speaker 2: And a screenplay by a person who could not make
Speaker 2: a decent screenplay out of Twilight fan fiction because she
Speaker 2: read that Fifty Shades of Gray adaptation.
Speaker 4: I mean, have you read the starting material. I'm not
Speaker 4: sure what anyone.
Speaker 2: You can only go up, is my point.
Speaker 1: You can only polish a turn so much.
Speaker 4: Yeah boy, yeah, that bottom alone. I think you're you're
Speaker 4: really giving Fifty Shades of Gray way more credit because
Speaker 4: if you've read it, I don't think there's any up
Speaker 4: you can go from reverse. There's there's no up from that.
Speaker 2: If you're starting at negative, you've only got positive to
Speaker 2: go to.
Speaker 4: Theoretically, yes, and execution The Warriors.
Speaker 2: The Warriors is a terrible novel and one of the
Speaker 2: best movies of all time.
Speaker 4: That's true. But in The Warriors they're not tying them
Speaker 4: tying each other up with ties and having sex in
Speaker 4: a red room.
Speaker 2: Well, James Remar attempted a bit of that on that
Speaker 2: part time.
Speaker 4: So, speaking of speaking of things that are strange, why
Speaker 4: are the characters from Paul in this? Because that's what
Speaker 4: the Reese Ethans character reminds me of. Oh okay, you know,
Speaker 4: because like, oh, we're gonna go to Area fifty one
Speaker 4: to look for aliens, Like where is this coming from?
Speaker 3: For it?
Speaker 2: It's episodes one, two, and three of this prologue that
Speaker 2: we just watched.
Speaker 4: It's very strange, but well, how does how do they
Speaker 4: factor into any of this?
Speaker 2: I'm sure they already have it sorted out, but.
Speaker 4: No, I'm genuinely asking what does any of their characters
Speaker 4: matter at all?
Speaker 2: Reese Ethon's is going to end up being a symbiot
Speaker 2: host and and a bad one and I don't know,
Speaker 2: it writes itself.
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 4: It's just so it's so odd to me that that
Speaker 4: there's this all of a sudden, there's this family of
Speaker 4: you know, the Tobias fu Ke family band, all of
Speaker 4: a sudden it's just traveling the country because Area fifty
Speaker 4: one is being decommissioned. It's like I expected Seth Green
Speaker 4: from the Expiles to be with them, Like, whoa.
Speaker 3: Man, I want to go see the lights in a
Speaker 3: studio now.
Speaker 2: The Summer Films presents Venom.
Speaker 4: Remember the Weed and Justice League had a very similar
Speaker 4: thing with that, like Russian family at the end that
Speaker 4: the Flash has to say.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but yeah, Weed and threw that in there
Speaker 2: just because the notes from the previous movie were like
Speaker 2: stop killing everybody.
Speaker 1: It reminded me more of like a family that was
Speaker 1: in Mars Attacks or Independence Day.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the Randy Quaid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if this is necessarily a movie
Speaker 1: that's stuck in the eighties. I would say probably more
Speaker 1: like ninety five, ninety four or something around there.
Speaker 4: I've been saying it for ten damn years that they
Speaker 4: probed him sexually. Yeah, there is a little bit of
Speaker 4: rand There's a little bit of Randy Quid going on.
Speaker 3: It's it does.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't seem like the movie knows what it
Speaker 4: wants to do in a lot of ways. It almost
Speaker 4: feels like vignettes in a lot of ways. And again
Speaker 4: like such a weird to me and Antonio and feather Malone,
Speaker 4: you know, y'all talking about like this doesn't feel like Venom.
Speaker 4: I agree. It feels like someone was like, all right,
Speaker 4: the last two movies, we've established this like weirdo version
Speaker 4: of venom. What would be interesting for him to do.
Speaker 4: Let's make a list of those things, and how can
Speaker 4: we cobble together a script that gets you from that
Speaker 4: point to that point? Because we have him riding on
Speaker 4: a horse, we have him fighting underwater where they're jumping
Speaker 4: around to the fish and the frogs, and then we
Speaker 4: have the symbio fight at the end of the movie,
Speaker 4: and you know, but I am more umber Yeah dah
Speaker 4: fucking dance number. Like but I'm I think I am
Speaker 4: I not think, I know, I am more with you, Mike,
Speaker 4: Like I I enjoyed it because it's just I don't know,
Speaker 4: I and Mike, this might wrinkle you a little bit.
Speaker 4: I go back to the joker folly ado of it all.
Speaker 4: Like I'm kind of more content to watch weird failures
Speaker 4: of movies at this point than Deadpool Wolverine, which I
Speaker 4: was like, I will probably never watch again because I've
Speaker 4: seen so many clips of it on YouTube and everything
Speaker 4: else now of just everything from that movie over and
Speaker 4: over again that I'm sick and tired of hearing about it,
Speaker 4: and I would rather just watch a failure of a
Speaker 4: movie that is at least fucking bizarre and is bizarre
Speaker 4: and knows it's bizarre, then one of these highly polished
Speaker 4: MCU movies that, again, Deadpool Wolverine was all about the cameos.
Speaker 4: That's ended up what it was being about the movie.
Speaker 4: The plot of that movie was threadbar as threadbar as
Speaker 4: the plot of this movie is. In a lot of ways,
Speaker 4: that movie was just trying to do something different. This
Speaker 4: movie's trying to get to a big symbio fight at
Speaker 4: the end of the movie. That's what this movie's trying
Speaker 4: to get to. And Deadpool Wolverine is trying to get
Speaker 4: to a scene where there's a bunch of characters walking
Speaker 4: on screen that you've never seen before or have seen before,
Speaker 4: and now they're in the MCU. I'm I would rather
Speaker 4: watch a movie that just kind of fails spectacularly that
Speaker 4: a movie that feels like, oh, it's this highly polished
Speaker 4: product that is fine, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: I go back to this problem that I've had with
Speaker 4: Star Wars and other Marvel stuff. You guys have how
Speaker 4: much money?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Can I just got Chris. I'm sorry to jump in,
Speaker 2: but this movie cost one hundred and twenty fucking million dollars.
Speaker 2: So it's actually wildly offensive to me because all of
Speaker 2: the weird choices they're making all feel like they're fucking
Speaker 2: marketing choices. It all feels like safe things, like audiences
Speaker 2: like this will do this, and this is weird and
Speaker 2: this is offbeat, and you know.
Speaker 4: But it all does anymore, right, It all does even
Speaker 4: I mean, like deadpol Wolverine all feels like safe choices,
Speaker 4: is my point, Like all of its safe choices now,
Speaker 4: which is a fucking shame.
Speaker 2: I think Deadpool Wolverine was making better choices than this
Speaker 2: movie was making more outlandist choices. That movie starts with
Speaker 2: the lead character using the other characters Spine and Skull
Speaker 2: to decimate and bludgeon and kill a bunch of characters,
Speaker 2: like this movie would never do that.
Speaker 4: And that's kind of the high point of that movie.
Speaker 2: No. I I like the you know what, there's a
Speaker 2: plot going on in that movie, And I liked Wolverine.
Speaker 2: That was finally good use of them all verse where
Speaker 2: we took a Wolverine it was total fucking failure and
Speaker 2: at least gave him a bit of redemption by the end.
Speaker 2: Like I liked that arc, particularly after the downer of Logan.
Speaker 3: But yeah, for me, well, I like thee jumping on
Speaker 3: the Deadpool Wolverine a really entertaining piece and it's like
Speaker 3: a really nice, one shot, forty eight page comic that
Speaker 3: I would get when I was a kid. It's like,
Speaker 3: here's this team up and it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 3: of fun and you're gonna have a really good time
Speaker 3: when you're gonna really remember Wolverine's costume with the end.
Speaker 4: So probably not for the right reasons.
Speaker 3: Well, he's got the you know, it's a full comic
Speaker 3: book accurate Wolverine costume, sure does. Yeah, that's about it. Like,
Speaker 3: that's not think the most memorable thing that he's got.
Speaker 3: But I still think it was fun. But it's not.
Speaker 4: I think this movie is as fun as that one
Speaker 4: me personally, I had. I mean, I don't know, Mike,
Speaker 4: I mean I think you and I are more on
Speaker 4: the same page with Venom. Did you enjoy this as
Speaker 4: much as you enjoyed dead Pool Wolverine?
Speaker 1: I think I enjoyed the Pool Wolverine more. But to
Speaker 1: your point, I think I would rewatch this one sooner
Speaker 1: than I would did Pull Wolverine, just because I kind
Speaker 1: of know it, you know, like nothing. Once I learned
Speaker 1: who the cameos were and saw all of those come
Speaker 1: to life, it's like, Okay, there are some good moments
Speaker 1: to it, but not nearly for me as many good
Speaker 1: moments as this one. I kind of do like the
Speaker 1: riding of the horse, of course, it reminds me of
Speaker 1: the riding and the motorcycle from the first one. I
Speaker 1: like the symbiote fight. I even like the fight on
Speaker 1: top of the airplane, which was ridiculous. It is interesting.
Speaker 1: When I was done watching this movie, the overly loud,
Speaker 1: drunk asshole behind me goes, there's probably five hours worth
Speaker 1: of this movie on the cutting room floor. We barely
Speaker 1: saw any of this, and I'm like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about. There's nothing that was left on the cutting
Speaker 1: room floor with us other than maybe they made it change.
Speaker 1: Because in the trailer, I see to remember debris coming
Speaker 1: down from space and I guess it's those would you
Speaker 1: guys call them xenophages, you know? Yeah, So I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: okay or yeah, but they showed that, and they show
Speaker 1: somebody at a teleg well sorry notm geez a telescope
Speaker 1: looking and I'm like, oh, okay, well that's how they
Speaker 1: get to Earth. Or maybe this is more symbiotes. I
Speaker 1: honestly thought it was more symbiotes when I saw the trailer.
Speaker 1: But okay, there's nothing left on the cutting room floor. Dude,
Speaker 1: tell me what you think wasn't resolved by this, because
Speaker 1: other than a little bit more oh, there's black goo
Speaker 1: remaining at the end there's nothing here that suggests there's
Speaker 1: a longer movie. For me, I don't know about.
Speaker 2: You, guys. No, I think it should have been much
Speaker 2: much shorter well, and.
Speaker 4: I think maybe some of that comes from the character
Speaker 4: of Nol just feeling. If there is an issue that
Speaker 4: I really have with this movie, for me, it is
Speaker 4: that character of no being introduced, and it's that feels
Speaker 4: like the Roman Bridger retcon of this movie, where it's like,
Speaker 4: there's been this whole thing this whole time, and it's like,
Speaker 4: come on, I both Scream three makes the joke about
Speaker 4: the ret con and like going back and ret conning
Speaker 4: the first two movies, and that is what this movie
Speaker 4: does with the Null character. It's like there is a
Speaker 4: bigger threat and the symbiotes aren't the bad guys like oh,
Speaker 4: oh okay, like way to kind of pull a lot
Speaker 4: of what made the first two movies interesting was that
Speaker 4: the symbiotes didn't necessarily, you know, align on the side
Speaker 4: of these are like broadly good characters. It was you know,
Speaker 4: carnage you had whoever the guy was, Yeah, and then
Speaker 4: Toxin in the last one, who also that's my other
Speaker 4: issue with this movie. What a weird usage of that
Speaker 4: character given what his given what he is in the
Speaker 4: comic books, which is talk about a usage of a
Speaker 4: character that is far from what the character in the
Speaker 4: comic book is. What coxin in the comic book is
Speaker 4: essentially just like he's good, that he's venom, who's good
Speaker 4: from the start. Essentially, it's the same setup of he's
Speaker 4: a cop, but he's a cop who gets a symbiotetective
Speaker 4: Mulligan here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, top, top, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: somebody finally explaining what Chris is talking about.
Speaker 4: Sorry, I didn't understand what you were asking, Mike. My bad, Well,
Speaker 4: my bad, because I realized that they never say the
Speaker 4: name of the character in the movie. That's the issue,
Speaker 4: and so same with Agony, the character that Juno Temple
Speaker 4: ends up the symbiote that she ends up playing. They
Speaker 4: never say the character's name in the movie either. That's
Speaker 4: purely from the comic books, that's purely from the separation
Speaker 4: anxiety storyline.
Speaker 2: The annoying thing about adding Null to this is that, uh,
Speaker 2: that seems like every character, every conversation is about Null.
Speaker 2: It's about symbiote explaining this this horrible threat that we
Speaker 2: never get to fucking deal.
Speaker 4: With that just showed up in this movie. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: it's like they've known about this this whole time. They
Speaker 4: even mentioned multiple times he's older than the universe itself,
Speaker 4: and they haven't mentioned him up into this point. That's
Speaker 4: fucking lazy. That's a hell of a retcon. And like
Speaker 4: I said, that, for me, is the biggest failure of
Speaker 4: this movie is that that is that the movie isn't
Speaker 4: just the end of the Venom Eddie Brock storyline. This movie,
Speaker 4: for me, the biggest failure is that it sets up
Speaker 4: more movies, not that I don't want them, but to
Speaker 4: your point, Father Malone, and to everyone's point, it doesn't
Speaker 4: feel like a movie that's self contained, and that for
Speaker 4: me is kind of the biggest failure of the movie
Speaker 4: is that it should have just been the Venom story.
Speaker 4: And to your point before Father Malone about Deadpool making
Speaker 4: you know, broader choices, I actually disagree. I think Deadpool
Speaker 4: Wolverine would have been a better movie if Wolverine hadn't
Speaker 4: been in it, because it would have been a weirder
Speaker 4: movie because it would have been a Deadpool movie station with.
Speaker 1: That title, it would have been really weird.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, I mean that would have been great in
Speaker 4: and of itself, but if it had just been a
Speaker 4: Deadpool three, I think it would have been a more
Speaker 4: interesting movie. And they had to undercut a lot of
Speaker 4: it for the Wolverine of it all. And I think
Speaker 4: similarly in this movie, it should have just been a
Speaker 4: Venom movie with some sort of threat that had been
Speaker 4: somewhat pre established. They kind of established it at the
Speaker 4: end of the last movie. Why wasn't it just the
Speaker 4: Danny Rojas character as the final villain or something to
Speaker 4: that effect. Instead they had to go and rope Andy
Speaker 4: Serkis into this. That for me is the biggest failure.
Speaker 4: And to your point, it's like Antonio said, it's a
Speaker 4: cut away to something else, like all of a sudden
Speaker 4: CGI bullshit, and then we're back to read. Well again,
Speaker 4: there is CGI bullshit with the Venom character, but all
Speaker 4: of that with Null is taking place where Vecna is
Speaker 4: in Stranger Things. It's like this fucking other thing that's
Speaker 4: all CGI. And you have a person standing on a
Speaker 4: green screen going pretend like you're scared or sit in
Speaker 4: a chair. And I think it hurts the plot of
Speaker 4: the movie because it should have just been the culmination
Speaker 4: of the Eddie Venom story, introducing this new threat that
Speaker 4: will continue on past this movie. Is like, why even
Speaker 4: have Venom die if he's just clearly gonna come back?
Speaker 4: You know, I'm what is this the Walking Dead all
Speaker 4: of a sudden?
Speaker 3: But I like a point to the point you made
Speaker 3: about Deadpool Wolverine though, because instead of getting Deadpool invading
Speaker 3: the Marvel Universe, invading the MCU and barreling his way
Speaker 3: through Iron Man movies and Captain America movies and it
Speaker 3: halted movies and just being a nuisance to all the
Speaker 3: established characters, now we're just barreling through these all these
Speaker 3: variations of Wolverine. Yeah, you make a very valid point.
Speaker 3: I can't really disagree with you. Get there.
Speaker 4: It's unfor it's unfortunate, Like it's I'm not saying Deadpool
Speaker 4: Wolverine's a bad movie. It's a good movie for what
Speaker 4: they may. Yeah, but it being Deadpool three, they undercut
Speaker 4: the movie by it being a Wolverine movie, And same
Speaker 4: with this movie, because we have no I just I
Speaker 4: was shocked when that ended up being a thing they
Speaker 4: revealed in one of the late trailers for this movie,
Speaker 4: because I was like, holy shit, Like, why are they
Speaker 4: doing this in this movie? This is such a big
Speaker 4: deal in the comic books. It's like doing Red Skull
Speaker 4: in the first Captain America movie. What were you thinking? Now,
Speaker 4: It's like, why are you doing this in the third
Speaker 4: movie when ostensibly it's supposed to be the end of
Speaker 4: the trilogy? Unless you're signaling, which they are, there will
Speaker 4: be more of these movies.
Speaker 1: Well, I've gotten to the point now where I don't
Speaker 1: trust the mid credits and end credits sequences, just because
Speaker 1: so many of them have been ignored over the years.
Speaker 1: And not to say that I'm waiting for Harry Styles
Speaker 1: to enter the MCU or any of these other bullshit
Speaker 1: end scenes that they've had over the years.
Speaker 4: But Brett gold speaking of Ted Lasso and Brett Goldstein,
Speaker 4: But yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree that no, was just really poorly done. And
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned his face. I didn't see his face.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe yeah, the very end, yes, But otherwise
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the guy's hairline and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what is this guy's problem? Does he emit sound from
Speaker 1: the center of his forehead? How does this work? But yeah,
Speaker 1: that was I agree that that was not a wise
Speaker 1: choice to have that as the big bad. Have somebody
Speaker 1: else trying to hunt Venom or something. Maybe even the
Speaker 1: guy from the first movie comes back and does something.
Speaker 1: And to your point about Deadpool and Wolverine, I mean,
Speaker 1: at least Vanessa shows up for a few minutes. They
Speaker 1: don't friger like they did in the second film. But
Speaker 1: my god, the it was always so amazing to see
Speaker 1: the caliber of actors in these Venom films, and this
Speaker 1: one is no exception. I love all the actors that
Speaker 1: we've mentioned so far. But even in you know, the
Speaker 1: previous films, having Michelle Williams as Eddie's girlfriend, it's like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing here?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: How are you doing? You're like us?
Speaker 4: She be him at one point too.
Speaker 1: I don't know what is but man, when women start
Speaker 1: wearing these symbio skins, yeah look out, I'm I got
Speaker 1: to cover my lap, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I agree with you guys as far as like the
Speaker 2: end of a trilogy, This is a terrible way to
Speaker 2: end to trilogy, as was the Deadpool way to end
Speaker 2: a trilogy. If you want to end a series of
Speaker 2: films and set up a bunch of other stuff, Marvel
Speaker 2: already did that with Captain America's Civil War, because that
Speaker 2: tells that completes his story with Bucky, which is the
Speaker 2: sort of thrust of that entire series. And it's a
Speaker 2: completely self contained story. And at the end of it,
Speaker 2: the shield is fucking smashed to pieces, and there's places
Speaker 2: to go. There's a million threads that can be drawn
Speaker 2: from it. So you know, don't fuck about when you're
Speaker 2: going to do the third movie.
Speaker 4: I wonder though, and here's something that maybe we should
Speaker 4: ask ourselves in twenty twenty four. Do trilogy rules apply anymore?
Speaker 4: Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: Because if you're going to make three movies, then yes
Speaker 2: they do.
Speaker 4: No, But I'm asking a different question. If we're going
Speaker 4: to make three movies, does that necessarily mean we don't
Speaker 4: make a fourth at this day and age, That's what
Speaker 4: I'm asking. Twenty thirty years ago, Yeah, Indiana Jones three,
Speaker 4: that's it. We got three movies, a trilogy of films.
Speaker 4: Alien had a quadrilogy. But my pointing, like I'm wondering
Speaker 4: if this is just the way that we think about
Speaker 4: movies needs to somewhat shift based on the MCU because
Speaker 4: of the way the MCU has been doing storytelling because
Speaker 4: everything is kind of interconnected, there isn't at least with
Speaker 4: the best of the MCU stuff. And look, I'm going
Speaker 4: to have a hot take here, and I don't really
Speaker 4: care if people disagree. I think the mc you should
Speaker 4: have ended at Endgame because a lot of the stuff
Speaker 4: since has been you said, diminishing returns. Father Malone has.
Speaker 2: No no diminishing returns. Is this movie, buddy, not them?
Speaker 4: But when we have things like the Eternals.
Speaker 2: Or yeah that was bad, yeah.
Speaker 4: Or Love and Thunder, Yeah, Quantum Mainia, I know, but
Speaker 4: I know, Father Malone, you enjoy Quantum Mania for kind
Speaker 4: of how weird it is, and I think Quantumnia is
Speaker 4: interesting for how weird it is. But I think for
Speaker 4: the MCU, they haven't really made a case for me
Speaker 4: why they didn't. Let me put it this way, it's
Speaker 4: not a hot take, I get it for me. They
Speaker 4: haven't made a case as to why they continued past
Speaker 4: endgame because the multiverse stuff has been so muddled and directionless,
Speaker 4: and because of the Jonathan Majors of it all, Unfortunately,
Speaker 4: they've had to really hardcore pick on everything and now
Speaker 4: we're seeing, like, oh, Robert Towny Junior is doctor doom
Speaker 4: and all that, and that's fine, but for me, the
Speaker 4: MCU after Endgame has done very little to justify, Like
Speaker 4: why they didn't just kind of stop and reset? Again,
Speaker 4: I know they wouldn't, because again, that's not something you
Speaker 4: do in movies as much as comic books.
Speaker 2: Saturday Our Lives should have ended in nineteen eighty half
Speaker 2: Michael's in your vision cast of Saturday Night Dead. Oh lord,
Speaker 2: what do you want me to say?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: Like, no, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 1: But they've had thirty.
Speaker 2: Movies and last seven have been bad.
Speaker 4: That's almost a third. I mean, that's a lot. That
Speaker 4: is a lot good and they're bad.
Speaker 2: Movies are fucking twenty times better than this movie, you
Speaker 2: know what?
Speaker 4: Anybod I don't know if I agree with that?
Speaker 2: Was? Okay, fine, put any of the Marvel movies against
Speaker 2: any of the Sony movies since they've been doing their
Speaker 2: bullshit like.
Speaker 4: What's the worst to see you? What's the worst MCU
Speaker 4: movie by your approximation?
Speaker 2: Fucking Love and Thunder movie.
Speaker 4: Okay, So, first off, I'd like to point out that
Speaker 4: is a post end game movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, right, right, right, right?
Speaker 4: But I think okay, so let me ask a different question.
Speaker 4: What's the worst MCU movie per your approximation.
Speaker 2: Pre Endgame Dark World?
Speaker 4: This movie is worse than Thor Dark World.
Speaker 2: This movie is worse than Thor Dark World. Yes, Thor
Speaker 2: was fucking committed to its story. You know what. It
Speaker 2: might be clumsy, it might be u you know, like
Speaker 2: a little bit long winded and a little bit muddled
Speaker 2: in its direction at times. But I never felt like,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is going on here? Why is Andy
Speaker 2: Brock standing behind the bar fucking making a tequila with
Speaker 2: fucking tentacles right now? Well, what's his name? Just sucking
Speaker 2: stands are going with? Oh are you kidding?
Speaker 4: Well, that's because again I think it goes back to
Speaker 4: the idea that I'm convinced this entire movie is just
Speaker 4: what would be funny to see Venom do? That's all this?
Speaker 4: Like I said, it feels like a very vignette sitcom movie.
Speaker 2: Right, and I feel about it like I feel like
Speaker 2: escaped from La where they were, Like, wouldn't it be
Speaker 2: funny if we degrade Snake Bliskin in this way? Let's
Speaker 2: tie him to way to a treadmill, won't that be hilarious? No?
Speaker 4: Well, and again I understand I understand and completely agree
Speaker 4: with you feeling that way again. I think that the
Speaker 4: just you know again, Mike and I clearly are enjoying
Speaker 4: that a little bit more. But I can understand because
Speaker 4: this movie is not necessarily making itself easy to like,
Speaker 4: because it is kind of all over the place. It
Speaker 4: really is like it's again when you have a Venom
Speaker 4: movie where people are being chewed up and spit out,
Speaker 4: but at the same time we have Venom, you know,
Speaker 4: joking and laughing but then biting people's heads off. The
Speaker 4: movie doesn't I don't think these movies have ever really
Speaker 4: known what they want to be. But I also think
Speaker 4: that that may be some of that is just the
Speaker 4: Tom Hardy of it all, because he's such to everyone's point.
Speaker 4: He's such a specific actor whose presence is so kind
Speaker 4: of his own thing. I kind of just almost chalk
Speaker 4: this up to this is just a Tom Hardy movie too. Ultimately, imagine,
Speaker 4: would these movies be this way if Tom Hardy wasn't Venom. No,
Speaker 4: I don't think they would. They might be a little
Speaker 4: bit closer to the way the character was in the
Speaker 4: comic books, because even Morbius is closer to the comic
Speaker 4: book version of Morbius than Venom is to the Venom
Speaker 4: version to the Venom in the comic books. Even Madam
Speaker 4: Web in a lot of ways is closer than Venom
Speaker 4: ever gets in the movies to the comic book version.
Speaker 3: Movies really only work when the monster's on, when Venom's
Speaker 3: tom screen, because the character as the floating head or
Speaker 3: as the creature, that character is fully realized and is funny.
Speaker 3: It's not the Venom, it's not my venom iningus the
Speaker 3: way to put what I grew up in the comic
Speaker 3: but the character on screen really works. I almost wish
Speaker 3: these weren't related to the Spider Man comics that grew
Speaker 3: up with. Yeah, and I could probably enjoy it more.
Speaker 4: You know what, This almost feels like these could have
Speaker 4: and should have been an adaptation of the Darkness comic book,
Speaker 4: because that is almost the way that these characters, the
Speaker 4: Venom character is treated, because in those comic books, it's
Speaker 4: like the Crow, this mobster dies and then he's brought
Speaker 4: back to life by this kind of spirit that bonds
Speaker 4: himself to him, and then he comes back to life
Speaker 4: and he wanders New York getting revenge on the people
Speaker 4: that killed him and his girlfriend, but he has this
Speaker 4: like tenderly spirit that comes out of him that eats
Speaker 4: people's hands and he can use it to slash their
Speaker 4: throats and stuff. There were two fantastic Xbox three sixty
Speaker 4: games that you could play that had the darkness. I
Speaker 4: believe the lead singer of Faith No More actually voiced the.
Speaker 3: Ie G hit game. Yeah, but hit the little guys
Speaker 3: they would shoot out.
Speaker 4: Yeah. But that's what this reminds me more of than
Speaker 4: anything else. And again that's not Venom. But at the
Speaker 4: same time, if you want to do this, there is
Speaker 4: already somewhat of a precedent in another comic book for
Speaker 4: having this, because that's what the externalized head talking to
Speaker 4: him reminded me of. Because in that comic book, the
Speaker 4: tendrils kind of come out of him and they kind
Speaker 4: of talk to him, and they have that same thing here.
Speaker 4: And it's weird because it's such a specific thing from
Speaker 4: something else that is kind of ripping off Venom. It's
Speaker 4: like it's very much just another Venom sque character. I
Speaker 4: believe that's I don't know what imprint that is. It's
Speaker 4: on DC or Marvel, it might be dark Horse even,
Speaker 4: but that's actually more, what this reminds me of.
Speaker 2: This entire series of movies feels like they when they started,
Speaker 2: they were like, what do fans want from Venom? They
Speaker 2: want him chomping people's head It's off, And then the
Speaker 2: rest of the movie is crafted to allow that to happen,
Speaker 2: so it becomes a wacky comedy. The scene where he
Speaker 2: chomps four guys heads off in this movie is precipitated
Speaker 2: by him and Venom trying to say we are Venom
Speaker 2: and Unison, ha ha, and then which they did in.
Speaker 1: The first movie with no problem.
Speaker 2: So right years ago.
Speaker 1: They did that in the first movie. Yesterday, when I
Speaker 1: was rewatching, I was like, why do they forget how
Speaker 1: to do that over the time? So, because it's not
Speaker 1: that much time has passed since the first movie according
Speaker 1: to this.
Speaker 4: Universe the trailer, maybe that's right.
Speaker 1: Well, so I've got two questions. One is having not
Speaker 1: been to Vegas in several years, and hopefully I will
Speaker 1: see you in a couple weeks there fa them alone
Speaker 1: when I head out there. But do they do fireworks
Speaker 1: displays and fireworks just showing up out of nowhere? Like
Speaker 1: all the.
Speaker 2: Time on weekends there are fireworks.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I was very curious about that.
Speaker 2: You know, you know what this movie, the first movie
Speaker 2: took place in, like what twenty eighteen. I think is
Speaker 2: that when it came out and they say that two
Speaker 2: years have passed right right, there was no sphere in
Speaker 2: Las Vegas in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: So they should have painted that out. Then I got
Speaker 1: probably and there's a big it looks like a ferris
Speaker 1: wheel there too.
Speaker 2: That was here.
Speaker 1: Okay, I haven't haven't been out there since I think
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. So anyway. The other thing is do you
Speaker 1: think that the guy who's sitting next to Tom Hardy
Speaker 1: when he's pulling the slot machine handle, do you think
Speaker 1: he's supposed to look like Martin scorsays? He had a
Speaker 1: real quick glance because every single time I saw him
Speaker 1: in the trailer, I was just like, is that supposed
Speaker 1: to be Martin Scuss?
Speaker 2: I don't know that he was Martin Scarsees. And so
Speaker 2: he reminded me of the guy in casino, the one
Speaker 2: that Ginger tries to scam. Who is a guy I
Speaker 2: used to see in casinos all the time, and if
Speaker 2: you said anything to him, you said hi, go, he
Speaker 2: would always say thank you so thank you.
Speaker 3: I think you can affirm this because I had a
Speaker 3: similar experience with that guy. He worked in the Forum,
Speaker 3: I believe in a fancy then suit store, like.
Speaker 4: Is he Jeremy Piven? A little rush Our too comedy
Speaker 4: for you? You guys remember Jeremy Piven's heavily gay coded
Speaker 4: character from Rush Hower two ohs coded coded.
Speaker 3: That's a deep cut. But yeah, that dude's a Vegas local.
Speaker 3: I guess he was a local actor. That's just claim
Speaker 3: to fame.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to deal with that character in
Speaker 4: the casino is, but yeah, what a odd choice to have,
Speaker 4: just like this guy might they might as well have
Speaker 4: had an Elvis impersonator sitting at a slot machine next
Speaker 4: to him, like.
Speaker 2: They should have. And by the way, that's another thing
Speaker 2: that the bunks me and movies where characters can move
Speaker 2: faster than you know, normal human speed and they're operating machines,
Speaker 2: the machines can't like they did this, and when they
Speaker 2: introduced Quicksilver in Days of Future Pass, like at one
Speaker 2: point he's playing pong and he's playing pong at like
Speaker 2: lightning speed, but like the machine wouldn't be going at
Speaker 2: lightning speed like the same with the slot machine, like
Speaker 2: bang on it all you want, that's just going to
Speaker 2: fucking tilt the thing and have security throw you out.
Speaker 3: So the day that I did background on it, I think,
Speaker 3: or a couple of days they did on it. The
Speaker 3: dress was, you know, maybe flashy. You know you heard Vegas,
Speaker 3: but they had a specific call for like drag queens,
Speaker 3: Elvis guys, jugglers, anything that really stands out. Nuns and
Speaker 3: if you're watching the movie you can kind of see
Speaker 3: them kind of in the background peppered in there, but
Speaker 3: they're They had very specific calls for very generic Las
Speaker 3: Vegas stylele folks for it.
Speaker 4: So jugglers, but not crusty jugglers.
Speaker 3: That crusty juggler. Rusty crusty chuggers.
Speaker 4: That's all I can think of.
Speaker 3: We were on a very unexciting part of them. Then
Speaker 3: there's like in a parking, like you turn into the
Speaker 3: parking at the Paris. It wasn't super exciting where they were,
Speaker 3: So make it entertaining.
Speaker 1: What else do we want to talk about? Venom Free
Speaker 1: The craft service was very good though, had a nice Yes,
Speaker 1: I saw somebody losing their ship online and I'm so
Speaker 1: glad somebody screen grabbed this. They were very mad about
Speaker 1: the poster because the posters woke because it says till
Speaker 1: death do they part.
Speaker 4: Fosters?
Speaker 2: Yep, it can't approve of Venom's pronoun usage.
Speaker 1: No, no, Well, until we come back and talk about
Speaker 1: another new movie, which I don't think we have any
Speaker 1: picked out yet, and there's nothing really that's exciting me
Speaker 1: about the rest of the year. We'll have to decide
Speaker 1: that off air. But until we come back and do that,
Speaker 1: I want to thank this week's guests and co hosts here.
Speaker 1: So Antonio, when you're not doing this, what are you doing?
Speaker 3: I am an indie movie director. On my movie Space
Speaker 3: Detective came out a few years ago. It's a weird
Speaker 3: psychedelic live action animation hybrid is a trip and I
Speaker 3: have a few shorts that now. And you shore at
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Speaker 3: eight hour film. That's a little next weekend, but you
Speaker 3: can check us out at Swampmedia Group in at Swap
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Speaker 1: How about you.
Speaker 2: Father them alone champ in at Weirdingwaymedia dot com. My
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Speaker 2: we do regular anthologies, we do bonus episodes, we do
Speaker 2: a whole lot. Go go check that out. Oh and
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Speaker 1: And Chris, how about yourself?
Speaker 4: Oh, you know, I'm just keeping up with all the
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Speaker 3: Well?
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