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Speaker 1: kind a very happy Wednesday. So you have been looking
Speaker 1: forward to this time, this time of the morning since
Speaker 1: I got here this morning and found out I'd be
Speaker 1: speaking with head of the Hamlin counter or I did
Speaker 1: it again, head of the Ohio Republican Party, Alex Shroud
Speaker 1: to FeelA formerly head of the Hemlin kind of Republican Party,
Speaker 1: Alex t Welcome back in a very happy new year
Speaker 1: to you, my friend.
Speaker 2: Well to you too as well. Brian. It's good to
Speaker 2: be with you, and it's a little chilling out there
Speaker 2: this morning, but I'm really glad to be with you.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you're here, and there just seems to
Speaker 1: be I don't know, I feel it. Maybe it's just
Speaker 1: because I was happy that of course Kamala Harris isn't
Speaker 1: going to be inaugurated on on Monday anyway, but a
Speaker 1: general feeling or an air of positivity, enthusiasm, and they
Speaker 1: can even use the h word hope in the air
Speaker 1: now that we've got Donald Trump getting ready to be
Speaker 1: sworn in, no.
Speaker 2: Question about it, and you're actually seeing it in some
Speaker 2: of the polling, I mean, the right track wrong track
Speaker 2: number which you know what that means is posters for
Speaker 2: a long time, they've pulled the question. For the Americans.
Speaker 2: You feel like the country is on the right track
Speaker 2: or the wrong track. And you know that right track
Speaker 2: number has improved already. And you know, Donald Trump hasn't
Speaker 2: even taken the oath of office. But you know it's
Speaker 2: because Americans want to tackle the issues on the southern border.
Speaker 2: They want to see a surviving economy at lowest prices,
Speaker 2: lifts wages. You know, people remember that President Trump's first
Speaker 2: term was a successful term for the American people. And
Speaker 2: again I've said this a million times on your show
Speaker 2: and others. Donald Trump is an unconventional politician, but that's
Speaker 2: what America wants right now. They want to change agent.
Speaker 2: They want things to be better for the middle class,
Speaker 2: better for working people. So I think there's a definitely
Speaker 2: an optimism a hope for America, and you know, I
Speaker 2: know I share it. I'm actually hopping up the rushan
Speaker 2: DC today till I don't be back in Ohio until
Speaker 2: we have President Trump back in office. So it's it's
Speaker 2: an exciting time and there's definitely optimism and hope out there.
Speaker 1: Brian Well, and you know what, what's sort of surprising
Speaker 1: and maybe not, but when you see Zuckerberg and others
Speaker 1: in these you know four I will say, formerly sort
Speaker 1: of woke companies completely completely shifting and and you know,
Speaker 1: getting rid of de EI for example. And that's a
Speaker 1: growing phenomenon. So more and more companies every day are
Speaker 1: throwing out the whole concept of DEI and and investment
Speaker 1: strategies that focus on you know, green and things like that,
Speaker 1: obviously bad for investment, but that now they I guess,
Speaker 1: feel relief enough that they can come out and go
Speaker 1: in a polar opposite direction. I guess they really weren't
Speaker 1: weed to those principles, and because they're not willing to
Speaker 1: stick with them, I don't think it's fear of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump's retaliation and wanting to cowtow and kiss the ring,
Speaker 1: as the case may be, more so than they really
Speaker 1: didn't maybe believe them in the first place.
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly right. What we know about American
Speaker 2: capitalism is that we have built we've built the country
Speaker 2: Brian on the concept of exceptionalism. And you know, the
Speaker 2: reason people have flocked the United States, the reason my
Speaker 2: you know, my parents, my mom, others came to the
Speaker 2: United States, is they knew that this was a place
Speaker 2: if you worked hard and you were excellent and you
Speaker 2: tried to do good things, and again you played by
Speaker 2: the rules that you could succeed and do well and
Speaker 2: it didn't matter your ethnicity, etc. And that's and right now,
Speaker 2: what happened to the American left is they left behind
Speaker 2: American exceptionalism and they said, you know, we're going to
Speaker 2: start worshiping a new god of diversity, and that's not
Speaker 2: working and hasn't worked in American companies. Successful American companies
Speaker 2: know that to survive and to build great companies that
Speaker 2: create great jobs for the American people, you've got to
Speaker 2: really focus on exceptionalism and having the best people. And
Speaker 2: I don't care what race they are. We shouldn't care.
Speaker 2: That shouldn't be the vision for America. So eliminating some
Speaker 2: of these DEI initiatives and some of these equitable kind
Speaker 2: of measures that have been put into corporate America I
Speaker 2: think are natural place, frankly for a lot of these
Speaker 2: companies to be because they know that to build great
Speaker 2: companies you can't just make decisions we are based on
Speaker 2: things like race. I mean, we've a long time said,
Speaker 2: let's judge people on their character, let's not judge them
Speaker 2: based on other things. And if we do that, we're
Speaker 2: gonna have great companies. And by the way, Brian, we're
Speaker 2: going to have people who are diverse within the companies
Speaker 2: because there are great people of every race, every ethnicity, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, every any, every kind of group. And if
Speaker 2: we just say let's put the best in the brightest
Speaker 2: in place, and let's not worry about some of these
Speaker 2: other things, America is going to improve, and it's going
Speaker 2: to improve companies in this country. It's going to improve
Speaker 2: job creation. So you know, again, I think the companies
Speaker 2: being there, you get it, you nailed it, and that
Speaker 2: is that companies are this is kind of a natural
Speaker 2: place for them to be, and that it's just get
Speaker 2: back to building great companies and don't worry about social
Speaker 2: experiments within you know, within your corporate structure.
Speaker 1: Well, in this whole, the DEI and other far love
Speaker 1: sort of woke policies came from a slice. I don't
Speaker 1: know how big this segment was, but the loudest squeaking
Speaker 1: wheels within the Democrat Party and stifling at least I
Speaker 1: perceive that there are I mean, there are some decent
Speaker 1: moderate Democrats out there, but their voices were stifled by
Speaker 1: this and they, you know, basically just collapsed and gave
Speaker 1: into all this woke ideology. And that serves as a
Speaker 1: springboard for my question to you, do you think that
Speaker 1: those more moderate voices will re emerge and that some
Speaker 1: logic and reason will come back to the Democrats and
Speaker 1: that they won't pose, you know, just a stifling opposition
Speaker 1: to every proposal that comes out of the Republican side
Speaker 1: in terms of legislation.
Speaker 2: Well, the answer it was ay better. I mean, they
Speaker 2: you know, they took a beating in this election, and
Speaker 2: they deserve to. And again I said this. I've said
Speaker 2: this for two years. You know, I've been the Ohio
Speaker 2: GOP leader and I've said it, and I sometimes I
Speaker 2: see the mainstream press is wow, you know, he's spinning.
Speaker 2: But the Democratic Party, Brian left, the mainstream of American politics.
Speaker 2: The extremists in America are in Democratic Party. That's where
Speaker 2: the extremists are. The mainstream of America is in the
Speaker 2: center right. And you know they love to talk about
Speaker 2: far right extremists, and you know, the media as corrupted.
Speaker 2: They've become their hatred of Donald Trump has really destroyed
Speaker 2: so much of the mainstream breast, But they won't actually
Speaker 2: call out Democrats for their extreme policies. Not having a
Speaker 2: secure southern border and allowing literally millions, tens of millions
Speaker 2: of non Americans to just flow into the country is extreme, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't have a country if we don't
Speaker 2: have borders. No other country in the world allows just
Speaker 2: a total free flow of non citizens. And you know, look,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a child of immigrants. We love immigrants.
Speaker 2: My family took in Greek immigrants my whole life and
Speaker 2: have been helpful, and I love immigrants, like President Trump
Speaker 2: has married two immigrants. So it's not like we're anti immigration.
Speaker 2: But this idea that you just have us poorous southern
Speaker 2: border and allow anybody to enter the country, Brian, that's
Speaker 2: an extreme idea. And for three years, Joe Biden and
Speaker 2: his borders are Kamala Harris embraced this idea that we
Speaker 2: were at a southern border, and the American people just
Speaker 2: woke up one day and said, we don't have a
Speaker 2: country left anymore. So those kind of things are extreme.
Speaker 2: And so again your question is will they tack back
Speaker 2: to the center if they want to win elections. I
Speaker 2: mean again, I you know, one of the things I
Speaker 2: love about being Ohio is it's pretty red. Now you
Speaker 2: go to you know, eighty two of the eighty eight
Speaker 2: counties and it's pretty strongly Republican. And Democrats just simply
Speaker 2: don't compete in Ohio. They don't complete in any of
Speaker 2: the rural communities. They don't compete in part of those
Speaker 2: rust belt towns. And I don't love that phrase, but
Speaker 2: you know, I spent a lot of time in live
Speaker 2: in Ohio. You know, brian Place is like Youngstown that
Speaker 2: used to be strongly Democrats. There's strongly Republican nows. They're
Speaker 2: looking at Democrats and say, you're not about helping me
Speaker 2: keep a job. You're not helping about you're not about
Speaker 2: helping the middle class. So you know, they've left that
Speaker 2: mainstream of American politics. And if they don't sort that out,
Speaker 2: you know it's going to be to my benefit because
Speaker 2: my job is the elect Republican, something we did very
Speaker 2: well in twenty twenty four. Y're in Ohio, so you know,
Speaker 2: we're you know, part of me, you know, fine with
Speaker 2: where they are, but look, we're have a world best
Speaker 2: conversation in America about the future. It's not bad to
Speaker 2: have a party in opposition, and you know, I hope
Speaker 2: the Democrats start to kind of return to the American dream,
Speaker 2: and that is supporting middle class people, supporting job creators,
Speaker 2: you know, respecting the rule of law, creating a southern border,
Speaker 2: you know, patriotism, all those things.
Speaker 1: Well, and one observation before we end up taking a
Speaker 1: break here to get to other topics, and I hope
Speaker 1: I can hold you over for another segment, if that's
Speaker 1: okay with you. Of course, Yes, the announcements from the
Speaker 1: FBI and DOJ about the threats, the domestic threats we
Speaker 1: have here. Obviously the security of our country. You know,
Speaker 1: we have to supposed to be protecting our country from
Speaker 1: threats both you know, internal and domestic and external. But
Speaker 1: that open border and the people that have been identified
Speaker 1: and quote unquote caught or as many of the case
Speaker 1: may be in released, I mean Chinese military, aged men,
Speaker 1: members of terrorist groups, folks from countries that have been
Speaker 1: identified as harbors and and and supporters of terrorism. I
Speaker 1: mean we have we have allowed and the Biden administration
Speaker 1: has permitted a dangerous, dangerous maybe you know, bubbling behind
Speaker 1: the scene threat to the American people. That's that's another
Speaker 1: component of this open borders thing. I mean, you can
Speaker 1: be as you know, open minded as you want about
Speaker 1: the general concept, but when you get to a person
Speaker 1: by person analysis, I mean, I'm I'm very concerned about
Speaker 1: something along those lines. You know that's just festering behind the.
Speaker 2: Scenes, well as am I and I And that's I
Speaker 2: think the first job of this government is going to
Speaker 2: be with Tom Homan, who's the you know, the new
Speaker 2: borders of are, so to speak, the Homeland Security guy
Speaker 2: is going to do is try to identify the criminals
Speaker 2: who are amongst us, who are not United States citizens,
Speaker 2: who came here illegally, and can deport them first and foremost.
Speaker 2: But no, look, I think what your your concern is
Speaker 2: a very real one, and it's a it's a bumbo.
Speaker 2: I pray for the country, yes, that we never pay
Speaker 2: a serious price in this regard, but you know, I'm
Speaker 2: worried about I think Americans all right to worry that.
Speaker 2: And look, it'll be unfortunately a part of the very
Speaker 2: negative legacy left by Joe Biden, Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to be unleashed during the Trump administration is what
Speaker 1: my fear is. You know, they're holding their their keeping
Speaker 1: their powder dry, and they want to put just like
Speaker 1: when the Antifa folks emerge and the cities were taken
Speaker 1: over and there were protests with Black Lives Matter in
Speaker 1: the streets over almost literally everything that any police officer
Speaker 1: ever did that was designed to be a thorn in
Speaker 1: the side of the Trump administration. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the The more larger threat is some terrorism that might
Speaker 1: go on or some attacks within the United States by
Speaker 1: the by the throngs that were allowed in our country unvetted.
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Speaker 1: If you have KERC the talk station. He's head of
Speaker 1: the High Republican Party he is Alex Tranpafilo, on his
Speaker 1: way to Washington, d C. To do the inauguration thing.
Speaker 1: I guess you got a lot of activities on your
Speaker 1: play for the inauguration, Alex.
Speaker 2: Well, we wrote to Brian and you know, the Ohio
Speaker 2: GOP is leading a bunch of events. We've got over
Speaker 2: twelve hundred Ohio and is expected at Ohio Ball on
Speaker 2: Sunday night. Now I'm leaving today. I've got a Republican
Speaker 2: National Committee meeting that starts actually today. I'm going in
Speaker 2: a little late, but yeah, so we've got a huge
Speaker 2: contingent obviously celebrating the significance here of one of our
Speaker 2: very own from Cincinnati, Ohio. Here really lives in Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: the next Vice President of the United States, Brian lives
Speaker 2: right here and is one of us in Cincinnati and
Speaker 2: Greater Cincinnati. And it's it's wonderful. Vice President Advance is
Speaker 2: the future of the Republican Party. I'm honored to know him.
Speaker 2: I've known him since before he was ever elected to office.
Speaker 2: You know, we're very excited. That's probably the understatement of
Speaker 2: the day. I I just couldn't be more happy about
Speaker 2: uh about traveling here to see my friend JD. Vance
Speaker 2: become Vice President of the United States and uh, and
Speaker 2: you know, just to celebrate this moment. So yeah, we're
Speaker 2: all getting ready, and there's a whole bunch of folks
Speaker 2: probably some of them listening, that are coming uh to
Speaker 2: Washington over the weekend where we're going to have celebrate
Speaker 2: Centator Bernie Marino's victory, celebrate uh, you know, just our
Speaker 2: Republican victories up and down the ballot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ohio's presence is really dramatically improved. So hopefully little
Speaker 1: in your to our benefit A little bit along those lines.
Speaker 1: Speaking of JD. Vance, and I'm glad you brought him up.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's impressive. You know, when people interview him,
Speaker 1: when he gets you know, pointed questions asked of him,
Speaker 1: he's really a quick thinker and quick on his feet
Speaker 1: and has very coherent, logical and reasonable responses. So that's
Speaker 1: impressive in and of itself. But who's going to be
Speaker 1: his replacement?
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know the answer. I don't know
Speaker 2: the answer to that. We may find out today, Brian,
Speaker 2: but I am not proving of that information. This is
Speaker 2: the governor's call, and you know, I haven't spoken to
Speaker 2: the governor more than a week, and uh, we're all
Speaker 2: anxious to see. I know the rumor mill is an overdrive,
Speaker 2: but you'll never know. I mean, this is ultimately the
Speaker 2: governor's call, and you know, hopefully it happens here quickly.
Speaker 2: We've got to get another senator up there. But I know,
Speaker 2: you know, and of the governors on the job. And
Speaker 2: I know for a fact that governor has talked to
Speaker 2: a lot of different Ohiolands about this. And the one
Speaker 2: thing about the governor is he does is due diligence.
Speaker 2: He's been the United States Senator himself. You know, he's
Speaker 2: into his second term as our governor here, so he
Speaker 2: will work on that process. And uh, and I'm told,
Speaker 2: I'm told we should know soon. So I don't. I
Speaker 2: don't know anything just to report to.
Speaker 1: You yet, Brian, John Houston, anybody that's the answer to
Speaker 1: the question, I think.
Speaker 2: Well, that's you're certainly have to have your rumor. And
Speaker 2: I'm reading the same priss clipping as everybody else is.
Speaker 2: And uh, and you know, again, these are people I
Speaker 2: know well, and you know I looked at the Governor's
Speaker 2: a lot of great choices. John houstaid, it's very smart. Uh,
Speaker 2: he's focused, really, Brian, on economic development. I what I
Speaker 2: would say about about the Lieutenant governor, and youably have
Speaker 2: had him on your show. But if you ever want
Speaker 2: to really get a lesson on how to develop companies,
Speaker 2: you know, public private partnerships, to make sure that we
Speaker 2: have a government that stays out of the way of
Speaker 2: business but also creates an environment for business as a thrive.
Speaker 2: I've never heard anybody better on the topic. I fundamentally
Speaker 2: mean that I've watched I've been dazzled, frankly by John
Speaker 2: Housted's knowledge of economic development. He didn't do it for
Speaker 2: more than thirty years. It's one of those underreported things.
Speaker 2: I know, Brian, you you like me, care a lot
Speaker 2: about sort of policy, and I think if you ever
Speaker 2: have him on, ask him just about his vision for
Speaker 2: economic development and the world that government limited role government
Speaker 2: can play and he's brilliant. Again, But there are lots
Speaker 2: of people that are interested in this thing. Jane Timkins
Speaker 2: a great friend of mine, you know, Frank LeRose is terrific.
Speaker 2: I move got some really good people so well.
Speaker 1: If I was a betting man, that's all I'd say. Eddie, Alex,
Speaker 1: I tell you I wish you and I know my
Speaker 1: listeners do issue. You know, Safe travels, best luck. I
Speaker 1: hope it's everything goes along smoothly and without incident underline,
Speaker 1: and we'll hit the ground running after swearing, and I
Speaker 1: understand that they soon to be President Trump again. We'll
Speaker 1: have a stack of executive orders to start signing almost instantaneously.
Speaker 2: This guy is tireless, President Trump. Everybody knows that this
Speaker 2: guy works seven days a week. It's it is no joke.
Speaker 2: We are trading out, you know, Joe Biden for a
Speaker 2: super high energy person. And I know people like to
Speaker 2: talk about his age. It's not fair to they do
Speaker 2: it in response to the serious criticism that Joe Biden
Speaker 2: deserved President Trumps on his A game. I have talked
Speaker 2: to the man. I can tell you that this man
Speaker 2: is on top of it politically, from a policy perspective, internationally.
Speaker 2: So we're going to have a high energy presidency. You're
Speaker 2: going to seek it off to a big start here.
Speaker 1: Alex Chanzfila, thank you for your time speaking with my
Speaker 1: listeners of me today and again, Safe travels to d C.
Speaker 1: I'll look forward to talking with you again, hopefully multiple
Speaker 1: times throughout the year.
Speaker 2: I look forward to us well, Brian, have a great day.
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