Speaker 1: Get Ready, Get Ready, twenty sixth day of September twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five, allegedly according to that thing we call a calendar.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the place where we don't have escalators or
Speaker 2: teleprompters that fail anyway.
Speaker 3: It is what it is. It was what it was,
Speaker 3: but it is Friday.
Speaker 2: And that means you can call in and join us
Speaker 2: for this discussion. And that's a three one nine five
Speaker 2: two seven five zero one six three one nine five
Speaker 2: two seven five zero one six. And I have an
Speaker 2: interesting proposition to get to at some point in the show,
Speaker 2: if you guys don't keep us busy, for sure, regarding
Speaker 2: how to use an AI tool, and it is. It's
Speaker 2: kind of fascinating because I started to try and figure
Speaker 2: out stuff I was doing wrong. And I've been working
Speaker 2: on a bunch of things that I've been doing wrong
Speaker 2: because the audience is shrinking and shrinking fast, and I'm
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what I'm doing that's different, not much.
Speaker 3: I think you guys are changing, not me, but maybe
Speaker 3: it's me.
Speaker 2: So I go back and I use the transcripts to
Speaker 2: go look over stuff.
Speaker 3: And I had.
Speaker 2: Occasion to reuse the transcripts and everything else anyway, it
Speaker 2: might be boring, but it might not be depends on
Speaker 2: who you are, I guess. Anyways, it is what it is.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I could report stuff about my week,
Speaker 2: but do you want to hear how I barely kept
Speaker 2: you know, things going?
Speaker 3: Do you want to hear how?
Speaker 2: I think I've got seven dollars worth of credit left
Speaker 2: on my electric bill?
Speaker 3: Anything else? Why? Why bother?
Speaker 2: I was able to pay the phone bill bill about
Speaker 2: two weeks late, but I paid it and they kept
Speaker 2: it on. So I got to say something for free
Speaker 2: conference call, you pay for extra services with them, and
Speaker 2: then we can actually have the phone lines function. They're
Speaker 2: pretty patient. They don't cut you right off as soon
Speaker 2: as you bounce a payment. So we're gonna stick with.
Speaker 3: Them as long as I can use their app and.
Speaker 2: Hopefully it still functions right, because God knows, technology seems
Speaker 2: to be very temperamental lately. But as long as they
Speaker 2: function for our phone line, we'll keep the phone line.
Speaker 2: It's the cheapest way to go. And uh, it does work,
Speaker 2: or it has been working. And that's that three one
Speaker 2: nine number three one nine five two seven five zero
Speaker 2: one six and you pay them for a stable number
Speaker 2: number one and also a number where you don't have
Speaker 2: to use a pin to get in, which you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to ask you guys to dial a
Speaker 2: seven digit pin to call in, So that accustomized greeting
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. And it's actually not bad to
Speaker 2: just have that little feature. But sometimes I'm bouncing the
Speaker 2: payment because I A don't have PayPal anymore, and B
Speaker 2: I didn't have any sort of cards at all, because
Speaker 2: why would I bother until recently. So yeah, it's been
Speaker 2: hard to pay for this thing. Plus every day I'm
Speaker 2: using every dollar we get in. So it is what
Speaker 2: it is, and I appreciate you guys who have been
Speaker 2: able to let me pay it and keep going.
Speaker 3: Just want you to know.
Speaker 2: But anyway, we'll put that aside and we might expand calls.
Speaker 2: By the way, I'd like to see more calls. I'd
Speaker 2: like to see more people and more ideas and more
Speaker 2: things shared one way or another on here, even if
Speaker 2: we just wind up telling common stories from our lives.
Speaker 2: But anyway, join us by doing this. Dial three one
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Speaker 2: if you're hearing me, about nine minutes now after eight
Speaker 2: pm Eastern on Friday, the twenty sixth of September. If
Speaker 2: that's what time you're hearing me, then we're live. Otherwise
Speaker 2: it's a replay, as have been many things this week.
Speaker 3: I forget what I did this week. Actually, I think
Speaker 3: I did two news shows or three news shows and
Speaker 3: Larry Hancock. But you know, you never know what next
Speaker 3: week might have on it.
Speaker 2: I might bring back David Bato, who is pretty good
Speaker 2: at zeroing right on in at the well and kind
Speaker 2: of taking a shot at one of those liberal icons
Speaker 2: in presidential history, and I like it, so.
Speaker 3: We might have to do that. And he was a
Speaker 3: professor at the University.
Speaker 2: Of Alabama, or wait a minute, you know what, I
Speaker 2: don't want to say exactly which university he was the
Speaker 2: professor at, but he was a history professor there. Anyway,
Speaker 2: him and his wife were both professors. I don't want
Speaker 2: to mix things up, so maybe we'll wait until I
Speaker 2: can get Professor Beto back on. But he also authored
Speaker 2: that book on TRM Howard, which I recommended and did
Speaker 2: a couple of shows on a few years back. But
Speaker 2: he's got a recent paper out there. I think it's
Speaker 2: a paper anyway on because digitally it's hard to tell
Speaker 2: the difference between a book and a paper, but on FDR,
Speaker 2: where we might go through that and talk about the
Speaker 2: reality there anyways, Who knows, Maybe nobody wants to hear
Speaker 2: history anymore.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I give up figuring that out because, like I said,
Speaker 2: incredible shrinking audience.
Speaker 3: Anyhow, enough out of me, be Pete. How was your week?
Speaker 4: Oh? God, it was hexic.
Speaker 5: Another week out there beating a brush with a bush axe,
Speaker 5: which you now know what it is because I sent
Speaker 5: you a photo.
Speaker 3: Yes you did.
Speaker 4: But other than that, I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's just been one of those weird weeks where we
Speaker 5: started out nice weather wise, then it got hot again.
Speaker 4: Hell, we were back up in the mid nineties the
Speaker 4: other day, and we're getting ready to have a bunch
Speaker 4: of thunderstorms roll through.
Speaker 5: Oh and we've got what to one hurricane and a
Speaker 5: tropical depression that the think's going to turn into a
Speaker 5: hurricane is getting ready to come up the coast. So
Speaker 5: next week we might be under six inches of water.
Speaker 5: Who knows.
Speaker 3: I had the weirdest day. But I also have a question, since.
Speaker 2: You it up, and I figure you know better than me,
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you about my level of awareness of
Speaker 2: the outside world is shrinking as well.
Speaker 3: Is this the hurricane season in the South.
Speaker 5: Because yeah, yeah, the Atlantic hurricane season goes to the
Speaker 5: end of November, and we have even had storms. I
Speaker 5: don't know if they became named. I think they were tropical. No,
Speaker 5: I think we did have named storms even after November thirtieth,
Speaker 5: a couple of years ago they went overseason.
Speaker 2: You know what messes me up is that in Jersey,
Speaker 2: like growing up there, we have the same kind of
Speaker 2: storm season because obviously we're all along the Atlantic, and
Speaker 2: not everything hits equally along the Atlantic. Right, just because
Speaker 2: the storm hits Florida doesn't mean we're ever going to
Speaker 2: see it in New Jersey or New York. But we
Speaker 2: used to get part of our storm season was divided
Speaker 2: because it would snow instead of raining, right, so we'd
Speaker 2: get a blizzard, which you didn't think of the same
Speaker 2: way as a hurricane, but a crazy blizzard like high
Speaker 2: winds and all that and getting white out conditions.
Speaker 3: Now down south, you know, like I've.
Speaker 2: Always joked about that snow apocalypse that took place in Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 2: where people were freaked out because there was like a
Speaker 2: quarter inch of ice on a highway in Atlanta and
Speaker 2: that like literally stopped hundreds of cars all along the highway.
Speaker 3: They couldn't even move.
Speaker 2: I found that totally bizarre and like it was another
Speaker 2: planet because of those snowstorms up there. I mean, I've
Speaker 2: known people that have been like, I don't care. I'm
Speaker 2: going to get my bottle la booze in any it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if it's white out conditions, I'll drive slow.
Speaker 2: The cargets blown down the street, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: the cargets blown down the street in Jersey, they don't care.
Speaker 3: Okay, they do it anyway.
Speaker 2: We bang into each other during this and go damn,
Speaker 2: that's gonna suck them the snow goes away, because then
Speaker 2: we're gonna actually see the damage on the car.
Speaker 3: I mean. But so, I think that's why.
Speaker 2: I have a hard time wrapping my mind around this
Speaker 2: long storm season, because it's more rain here, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: so because you don't get snow, really you're go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more rain because of the tempts.
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you, some of the worst snowstorms we've
Speaker 5: ever had are like in March and April. I remember
Speaker 5: one one of the biggest snows we had was right
Speaker 5: after I graduated high school.
Speaker 4: And what happens.
Speaker 5: You get a low pressure system comes out of Texas
Speaker 5: and comes across Louisiana or the Gulf, and as soon
Speaker 5: as it hits Florida, you know, it makes the turn,
Speaker 5: starts coming up the coast and it's just offshore. It's
Speaker 5: what they call up north and northeaster because that's where
Speaker 5: your winds are coming in from and if you've got
Speaker 5: cold temperatures in place, we've had as much as foot
Speaker 5: and a half two foot of snow out of it,
Speaker 5: or just because it comes up the coast just starts dumping.
Speaker 5: Now you go an hour west of here, nothing they're
Speaker 5: not even getting rain, but we're getting dumped on. I've seen,
Speaker 5: you know, morehead is down at the beach and I've
Speaker 5: seen storms hit down there thirteen fourteen inches of snow
Speaker 5: and not get anything inland. So it's kind of weird
Speaker 5: in the wintertime. But we've actually had a lot of
Speaker 5: storms in November. September is the peak of the Atlantic
Speaker 5: hurricane season. So once you get through September, things should
Speaker 5: start calming down. But you know, you mentioned going to
Speaker 5: the store, that big snowstorm that hit right after I
Speaker 5: got out of high school. We stopped at one of
Speaker 5: the only convenience stores open because there's a foot and
Speaker 5: a half of snow on the ground. We go in
Speaker 5: and buy wine, and the guy that bought the wine
Speaker 5: bought matose and we get out of the store and
Speaker 5: I said, okay, dude, now, what are you going to do?
Speaker 4: We don't have a corkscrew. Matoose was not a screw
Speaker 4: top line.
Speaker 5: So we were walking back to his place about a
Speaker 5: mile away, and we hear a noise behind it, and
Speaker 5: here comes this bookswagon beetle sideways down the road in
Speaker 5: the snow, and sure enough, a friend of.
Speaker 4: Mine pulls up from high school.
Speaker 5: Him and his buddy are out right around getting stowed
Speaker 5: and enjoyed the snow.
Speaker 4: And I asked, if you got a have you kint
Speaker 4: a corkscrew?
Speaker 5: He says, as a matter of fact, and he bangs
Speaker 5: on the dash and the glove box pops open and
Speaker 5: he hands us a fucking corkscrew.
Speaker 4: It was perfect time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so then we can drink our wine in the
Speaker 5: blizzard all the way back to the house.
Speaker 2: All right, But just for comparisons sake, right, these Nor'easterns
Speaker 2: they happen up there every year, right and several times sometimes.
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, right after Hurricane Sandy, right the superstorm
Speaker 2: that like collided and crushed I mean seriously, like I
Speaker 2: was in the area that was, like, there is no
Speaker 2: power in this part of the state.
Speaker 4: There was no waters like at of snow. Within days
Speaker 4: or something after it.
Speaker 2: What happened is literally like the day after almost that
Speaker 2: they actually restored power, okay after because.
Speaker 3: It was out for three weeks.
Speaker 2: I know, people don't, you know, think of it that
Speaker 2: way up in the northeast or whatever, but trust me,
Speaker 2: no power three weeks, okay, And you know, like you
Speaker 2: couldn't use the water because the water, you know, the
Speaker 2: filtration plan or whatever that's down, So you can't use
Speaker 2: the water.
Speaker 3: You gotta go find bottled water.
Speaker 2: Nobody can even get out of town because there's not
Speaker 2: gas left over that you can get to and none
Speaker 2: of the gas stations have crank pumps anymore.
Speaker 3: So guess what stuck okay.
Speaker 2: And so only people that decide to come in and
Speaker 2: have enough gas to get back out can do it.
Speaker 2: So it was a weird situation anyway, Like literally they
Speaker 2: restore all the power finally and my neighborhood, even though
Speaker 2: I was in like a suburban neighborhood at the time,
Speaker 2: like super suburban, Like I lived on something called Parkside
Speaker 2: Drive and it was on the side of a park also,
Speaker 2: so literally, you know, you name it for what it is.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the day after boom, like two three feet
Speaker 2: of snow and boom, the power.
Speaker 3: Went out again.
Speaker 2: So after we waited three weeks for the North store,
Speaker 2: we had it for a day.
Speaker 3: Our water was cleaned for a day, okay, and everybody
Speaker 3: breathed a sigh of relief, and like bang gone next day.
Speaker 2: And it's because of that storm that came right So
Speaker 2: it wasn't on top of the storm necessarily. We had
Speaker 2: some snow on top of the storm, but it wasn't
Speaker 2: that bad. It was sort of like, well, this kind
Speaker 2: of sucks. Now I got no power and I got
Speaker 2: to walk outside in the dark, and there's ice.
Speaker 3: Everywhere, you know, if I'm going anywhere. But when the
Speaker 3: power came back on.
Speaker 2: And everybody's like, okay, we can get back to normal finally,
Speaker 2: and then a giant snowstorm drops three feet at least,
Speaker 2: and that means that you get drift of like ten
Speaker 2: foot high in certain spots. You know, when they say
Speaker 2: three feet, it doesn't mean that that's the way it
Speaker 2: lands all the way, you know what I'm saying. Like
Speaker 2: a year before September eleventh, we had a snowstorm that
Speaker 2: literally like it was bad and nobody could go on
Speaker 2: the road, state of emergency and all that, and I
Speaker 2: went to you know, just any imagine any grocery store
Speaker 2: right that has one of those like, you know, fairly
Speaker 2: large lobby arc kind of things in the front of it.
Speaker 2: A lot of them havepen I've seen Pigley wigglei'es with it.
Speaker 2: I've seen food lines with it, shop rights, foodstowns all
Speaker 2: across the country.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Like the big lobby area with very tall windows in
Speaker 2: front of a grocery store.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okay, So that there was a snow drift
Speaker 2: that went uphill and covered that all right, like completely.
Speaker 3: So I don't know how tall.
Speaker 2: That is, but I'm thinking that's like two floors on
Speaker 2: an apartment building about tall something like that. Okay, these
Speaker 2: are my visual estimates. They might be a little bit off,
Speaker 2: but just so you can picture it, snow drifts were
Speaker 2: like that. So some of the strip malls there were
Speaker 2: snow drifts that went up to the roof of the
Speaker 2: strip mall buildings, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So this is where you're at, Like the stores disappeared
Speaker 2: in snow drifts, and I had to walk and try
Speaker 2: and find my way to and even climbed up one
Speaker 2: of those snow drifts and slid down it on the
Speaker 2: other side to get to what I thought might be
Speaker 2: a grocery store where people were inside, because I was
Speaker 2: sent out to get stuff for my baby girl. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So snow I'm used to. But the thing is in
Speaker 2: the South, it doesn't snow that often.
Speaker 3: You talked about.
Speaker 2: Getting his wine when you were in high school, right,
Speaker 2: so do me a favor. How many times since that
Speaker 2: time in high school? Which just to be generous and
Speaker 2: do a generalization real fast, we're talking what forty years
Speaker 2: since high school for you?
Speaker 3: Right? At least?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Seventy eight? Yeah, seventy eight.
Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm not being unfair if I say forty years, right.
Speaker 4: No, not at all. It's about like the forty five
Speaker 4: forty what's this ask me to, dude? Math?
Speaker 5: Damn, I'm sorry, but looking at forty is not off
Speaker 5: by much. It's actually more than forty.
Speaker 3: It's more than forty. But let's just go with the
Speaker 3: forty year idea.
Speaker 2: In the past forty years, how many times has it
Speaker 2: really snowed significantly when you've been in the south like that,
Speaker 2: you remember since then?
Speaker 5: Well, I tell you, whipper snapper, I remembered a big
Speaker 5: old nineteen seventy nine blizzard, and then we had one
Speaker 5: in eighty one, and then I think we had one
Speaker 5: in eighty.
Speaker 4: Since then, we've probably had.
Speaker 5: Five big snow storms, twenty snowstorms, you know, three four inches,
Speaker 5: but down here you get three inches.
Speaker 4: Everything shuts down.
Speaker 3: So fair enough.
Speaker 2: But what you're telling me is that what you get
Speaker 2: over the course of forty years is what I would
Speaker 2: face in Jersey in.
Speaker 3: One to maximum two years.
Speaker 5: Okay, So yeah, It's like when I lived in you know,
Speaker 5: Salt Lake City in Colorado Springs. You know, snow was it.
Speaker 5: That was their winter business was snow. You know, we'd
Speaker 5: get a flip and a half in a snowstorm. On
Speaker 5: a light snowstorm out there. I remember one time we
Speaker 5: had about four foot of snow. We had to go
Speaker 5: or walk to school in.
Speaker 2: Right so like even your townships don't really keep that
Speaker 2: much rock salt. Every township in New Jersey, no matter
Speaker 2: how broke they are, has rock salt, right because otherwise
Speaker 2: you're you know.
Speaker 4: The funny thing.
Speaker 5: Is when I was in Switzerland one winner, they actually
Speaker 5: almost country wide or yeah, country wide ran out of salt.
Speaker 5: They had it snowed for thirty days every day for
Speaker 5: thirty days.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well we used to have shortages in the Northeast,
Speaker 2: but they would be you know, they'd be rough, and
Speaker 2: then somebody would come in and price gouge from somewhere
Speaker 2: right every time it's like, oh, you need salt real bad,
Speaker 2: how about double ors ripple the price, and you know,
Speaker 2: I do know that. Of course Italian businessmen were involved
Speaker 2: in that, so of course you're going to pay more.
Speaker 3: It just was what it was because yeah, that.
Speaker 5: Is for years, that was the big thing buying and
Speaker 5: used car down here. Is until car facts came along,
Speaker 5: when you could check the history of a car or
Speaker 5: go to these websites and throw in a v number
Speaker 5: and see what the recorded repair history and stuff was
Speaker 5: down here. The first question you asked was where did
Speaker 5: the car come from?
Speaker 4: Because if it came from up north.
Speaker 5: Nobody wanted to buy it because they knew they were
Speaker 5: going to replace and crap for all the salt that
Speaker 5: was used on the road. Salt down here has been
Speaker 5: a more modern invention.
Speaker 4: Let's say.
Speaker 5: They didn't used to use it as much here now
Speaker 5: that they've got these brining operations going and every time
Speaker 5: we get a threat of a storm or snow or ice,
Speaker 5: they'll go out and hit all the highways and then
Speaker 5: the secondary roads at least, you know, one code of
Speaker 5: Brian to help.
Speaker 4: Keep things down. But years ago they didn't do that.
Speaker 5: So that was the first question you asked, you know,
Speaker 5: did this car come from up north?
Speaker 4: Because you knew it had.
Speaker 5: Been driving in salt, and you know down here in
Speaker 5: thishumid climate, solid eat a car up in today, so
Speaker 5: it was always important to understand where it came from.
Speaker 2: Right, And it's not just carfax at this point. It's
Speaker 2: also because the cars are made of plastic so they
Speaker 2: don't rot as quickly. You know, I know, children, true
Speaker 2: children's don't remember that they were all actually made.
Speaker 3: Of metal at one point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, when was the last time you actually saw a
Speaker 5: true trees of chrome that wasn't on a motorcycle.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, good luck.
Speaker 2: I think there might have been a strip on the.
Speaker 3: Last car or something. I think nineteen ninety nine car.
Speaker 2: I think I saw strips of chrome on it, but
Speaker 2: just strips, you know what I mean, like not Yeah,
Speaker 2: remember the.
Speaker 5: Old DuPont chrome polish you used to get out and
Speaker 5: hit the pumpers with when you know you were getting
Speaker 5: your fifty seven Chevy bel Air or and Paula ready.
Speaker 4: For the car show.
Speaker 5: I mean that was I don't think I've seen a
Speaker 5: can of DuPont chrome polish in forty years.
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, do they make it? I mean maybe they don't.
Speaker 3: They got it?
Speaker 2: You know what, there's probably like a specialty thing like
Speaker 2: for car show people, and you know the people that
Speaker 2: like pimp the ride or whatever that they got to
Speaker 2: have their chrome. Plus, you know, somebody got to put
Speaker 2: something on them spinners, right, so you got to be
Speaker 2: shining up the metal somehow.
Speaker 3: And so I'm thinking, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: So for show cars it probably exists, But I don't
Speaker 2: think it's going to be at AutoZone.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not a common product. I don't think.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, let's do a check. Let's do a check.
Speaker 3: Yeah, why not.
Speaker 4: Let's go to all zone dot com.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 2: This is this is you know, hey, this is more
Speaker 2: fun than our usual impromptus.
Speaker 3: Let's find out if this guy's dead.
Speaker 5: Let's see ye this guy Bill god do punk chrome polish?
Speaker 3: How did this guy die in prison? Uh?
Speaker 2: It's usually our stuff. We're checking on which CIA assassin
Speaker 2: shot this guy in the head.
Speaker 3: Uh, we're usually checking stuff like that. So yeah, let's
Speaker 3: check for chrome polish. That's fun. That's better.
Speaker 5: Might as well let's close this window and this little
Speaker 5: pop up window and this other pop up You know
Speaker 5: something I've had that hit me, Yeah, this past week
Speaker 5: that I haven't had hit.
Speaker 4: Me in a while.
Speaker 3: What's that?
Speaker 5: I tried logging into something and you get that stupid
Speaker 5: message that says we're sorry, but the email account associated
Speaker 5: with this account is not correct, and you're going, dude,
Speaker 5: I've been using the same email account for the past
Speaker 5: fifteen years. How is it not good all of a
Speaker 5: sudden irritating?
Speaker 2: Well, it's irritating, But you got to be careful because
Speaker 2: if you somehow land on the you know, Russian bot
Speaker 2: site that is cloned and is meant to look just
Speaker 2: like you know, autozones, like the O in auto is
Speaker 2: actually you know, a different character, but you can't really
Speaker 2: visually see the difference of it in your address bar.
Speaker 2: And somehow you click on the wrong link but you
Speaker 2: think it's the right link because it's a cloned version.
Speaker 3: Of their website.
Speaker 2: They might be asking for your email again because they
Speaker 2: don't actually have it, and now they're going to collect
Speaker 2: it and spam you to death. Because you know, I
Speaker 2: decided to try one of those You ever see those
Speaker 2: commercials where it's like, if you're above forty five, we
Speaker 2: have free McDonald's for you if you just answer a survey.
Speaker 3: You ever see those?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, here are the results.
Speaker 5: Okay, I did a search at AutoZone for DuPont chrome polish.
Speaker 5: The first two things that come up is mother's brand
Speaker 5: and then the rest is chromed parts or tools.
Speaker 4: So let's find another source.
Speaker 3: Well, that's rough.
Speaker 2: If Adilson has one product, that's pretty rough right there.
Speaker 3: Don't you think?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean I guarantee you they got like
Speaker 2: three four kinds of windshield white or fluid that go
Speaker 2: in every car or whatever, But no guarantee that you're
Speaker 2: going to get anything more than you know one kind
Speaker 2: of chrome polish, because who needs it?
Speaker 5: See, well, let's see we can find some on eBay.
Speaker 5: And when you look at the pictures of the containers,
Speaker 5: they're old. They're all recovered in russ Here's one DuPont
Speaker 5: chrome polish, thirty five dollars, another one thirty nine to
Speaker 5: ninety seven. Three vintages nineteen seventy DuPont tens. Now these
Speaker 5: are just a t for thirty four ninety five. So
Speaker 5: I found an item that's no longer made.
Speaker 3: Just that.
Speaker 2: If the ten is a collector's item, yeah, it's probably
Speaker 2: not made anymore.
Speaker 3: It's like when you go to like I.
Speaker 2: Discovered that they still make they still make new VCR
Speaker 2: tape rewinders like VHS rewinder machines, remember the rewinders, so
Speaker 2: you wouldn't wear out your motor. They still make new
Speaker 2: ones of those in China. But you can't find one
Speaker 2: in an American store.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. And you know, you go on
Speaker 3: eBay and they're like, we got this one.
Speaker 2: Hey, look we still have the one that looks like
Speaker 2: you know, the the A team van. You put it,
Speaker 2: you put your videotape inside of the eighteen van and
Speaker 2: it rewinds it, you know, either that or the Blockbuster
Speaker 2: the one that looks like a Blockbuster video case because
Speaker 2: you're such a big fan of Blockbuster Video. But that
Speaker 2: one's old and scratched because Blockbuster don't exist no more.
Speaker 2: Neither uh and neither the videotapes in America unless you
Speaker 2: go to a flea market.
Speaker 3: So what're we saying now about that?
Speaker 4: I saw them?
Speaker 5: Well, I saw something the other day where people were
Speaker 5: taking old videotapes and they would get like they made
Speaker 5: a rack that they could put the cases on, and
Speaker 5: they would take three you know, they'd cut the tape
Speaker 5: at the end, take it off the spool, pull it out,
Speaker 5: pull it through a winder free of them, and it
Speaker 5: twists up the videotape into a thread, and then they
Speaker 5: use that thread in their three D printers as their
Speaker 5: source of the plastic. No kid, I thought it was
Speaker 5: pretty unique.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's Hey, look there's some recycling for you, uh,
Speaker 2: if you're not going to use the tapes, and that's
Speaker 2: gonna you know, what else that's going to do is
Speaker 2: add to the price of somebody's vintage stuff. Because somebody
Speaker 2: has like a well working VCR and like, you know,
Speaker 2: the original good movies still in good working condition that
Speaker 2: will be played clearly as a VHS can play on
Speaker 2: a television.
Speaker 3: Somebody who has that probably can charge a lot of money.
Speaker 2: For it, like I saw, okay, the Atari twenty six hundred,
Speaker 2: as I recall from being a kid, was like at
Speaker 2: maximum price maybe one hundred and fifty dollars. Now that's
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty, like nineteen seventy eight seventy nine.
Speaker 3: Dollars, right, so it's pretty expensive. But all through.
Speaker 2: Its existence as a machine, generally the cartridges, which you know,
Speaker 2: didn't contain a lot of information, were maximum forty dollars apiece,
Speaker 2: but some of them could be cheaper even at Toys Rus,
Speaker 2: which had an extensive markup on them. And the machines
Speaker 2: themselves never really exceeded one hundred and fifty to maybe
Speaker 2: two hundred dollars. They got to at some point when
Speaker 2: they were like you know, all the rage for Christmas
Speaker 2: or something. But now for a little while you could
Speaker 2: buy them and a bunch of cartridges and a whole
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff except the paddles, because the paddles always broke.
Speaker 2: But you could buy a whole set and a whole
Speaker 2: iry for like twenty five dollars for a little while at.
Speaker 3: The flea market.
Speaker 2: You wait long enough, though, and now those machines, good
Speaker 2: cleaned up, perfect original machines that still work, are now
Speaker 2: like what three four hundred dollars. The tapes depending on
Speaker 2: which cartridge you want, could be, you know, anywhere from
Speaker 2: a dollar to three hundred dollars a piece. Right, So
Speaker 2: if you take something, you let it go completely useless
Speaker 2: for a while, and still hang on to it throughout
Speaker 2: that and wait until somebody decides they want the retro
Speaker 2: version of something, the price can go up.
Speaker 5: And I had a good friend of mine ran a
Speaker 5: Curtis Mathis TV store, and you know, the Curtis Mathis
Speaker 5: was one of the higher priced models that you could
Speaker 5: buy when it came to stereos and TVs.
Speaker 4: And he they closed down.
Speaker 5: Curtis Mathis eventually went out of business or stole to somebody.
Speaker 5: They went out of business. But their biggest part of
Speaker 5: their business was video rentals. So when this thing shut down,
Speaker 5: this guy had, I don't know christ almost eight nine
Speaker 5: hundred movies he had to get rid of. So he
Speaker 5: spent the next three months on the weekends out of
Speaker 5: the flea market got rid of every damn one of them.
Speaker 5: But you know, it was just amazing, all of a sudden,
Speaker 5: You've got this inventory.
Speaker 4: What do I do with it?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 5: If he had been able to warehouse those things and
Speaker 5: sell them today, oh god, he'd be making a pretty penny.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: But then again, it's there's a difference, right, because at
Speaker 2: one point in the nineteen seventies, VHS tapes and machines
Speaker 2: were super expensive, like to the point where if you
Speaker 2: wanted a like good solid Hollywood manufactured version of a movie,
Speaker 2: you were paying three hundred bucks. That snow joke, three
Speaker 2: hundred dollars, and all the way up to like the
Speaker 2: early eighties, because I remember Et was like three hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Star Wars was like two hundred and fifty bucks, and
Speaker 2: it was it was wild, you know. And the machines
Speaker 2: were literally like one thousand dollars at one point, and
Speaker 2: most people couldn't get them in America anyway.
Speaker 3: And then a few years.
Speaker 2: Later they had dropped down to a reasonable sort of
Speaker 2: marketable price, you know, and they were a couple hundred dollars, right,
Speaker 2: And you give it another ten to fifteen years and
Speaker 2: the DVD comes out and all of a sudden they're
Speaker 2: down to fifty bucks, and you know, and and the
Speaker 2: cassettes ten dollars, you know, and Blockbuster sales used ones
Speaker 2: for seven.
Speaker 3: All kinds of stuff like this went on.
Speaker 2: But I always found it remarkable when a technology is
Speaker 2: brand new. Yeah, it's worth a lot of money, and
Speaker 2: it costs a lot to get it, and it's hard
Speaker 2: to get.
Speaker 3: And then when it.
Speaker 2: Gets you know, sort of oversaturated in the market, it
Speaker 2: goes cheap, and then it dies and you wait a while,
Speaker 2: and if you wait long enough, like I said, you
Speaker 2: can either pick it up on the complete dirt cheap
Speaker 2: or if you wait, you know a little longer and
Speaker 2: you're holding on.
Speaker 3: To it, it's valuable again.
Speaker 2: So you know, the guys that were literally out there
Speaker 2: begging you to buy their VHS tapes for you know,
Speaker 2: fifty cents saying, you know, nineteen ninety nine at the
Speaker 2: flea market today, if they had those things, you know,
Speaker 2: they were selling sealed movies out there for a dollar.
Speaker 2: Like it's just there was so much inventory. Like I
Speaker 2: don't know what Curtis is, but yeah, good it.
Speaker 5: Was good for me because I was he let me
Speaker 5: go through the pile, and I was able to get
Speaker 5: all the old John Wayne stuff out so that I
Speaker 5: could give him to my dad and complete his John
Speaker 5: Wayne collections.
Speaker 4: So it really came inconvenient from me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, Now I went there a couple of times and
Speaker 2: I got stuff.
Speaker 3: I don't have it anymore, but I went through it.
Speaker 2: I would get all the music stuff, and I had
Speaker 2: like all the Star Trek movies at one point, you know,
Speaker 2: like I bought like one through six and then bought
Speaker 2: even the new couple of.
Speaker 3: Next Generation movies. S. I had all the Star Trek movies.
Speaker 2: And I started but never finished getting one by one.
Speaker 2: They used to have videotapes with like two Star Trek
Speaker 2: episodes on it, and so I started buy a Nose
Speaker 2: from the original series and also went and not just
Speaker 2: Star Trek, but there was something else that I had
Speaker 2: to get. I'm trying to think now that was like, man,
Speaker 2: what was the other thing I had gotten?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2: Here, I know it was, and it was something that
Speaker 2: I really oh, I know what it was, The Twilight Zone.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: And I completed the Twilight Zone collection like real easy
Speaker 2: for like you know, fifty Bucks or whatever, and there
Speaker 2: was a lot of episode I don't know how many
Speaker 2: the Twilight Zone had, but the Twilight Zone tapes in
Speaker 2: some cases had one episode on them. So yeah, it
Speaker 2: was nuts, but there was you know, enough there that
Speaker 2: I was able to complete. I think there was like
Speaker 2: eighty something episodes. And then they had like a couple
Speaker 2: of special tapes which had you know, outtakes this and that.
Speaker 2: And then later when I saw them on DVD at
Speaker 2: like one of those big box stores, I was kind
Speaker 2: of pissed because I could buy one set of them
Speaker 2: now and they fit you know, on a three inch
Speaker 2: space on my uh you know, on my rack instead
Speaker 2: of this giant library I had before. And I had
Speaker 2: all of it, plus the specials, for like you know again,
Speaker 2: not even buying them on the cheap. I had them
Speaker 2: all for I don't know, thirty dollars. I had the
Speaker 2: whole thing, and I was like.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm surprised that program hasn't they haven't re
Speaker 5: redone it here recently.
Speaker 4: You would think that would be a good one for
Speaker 4: them to redo.
Speaker 5: I know they had the movie The TWI his own
Speaker 5: movie because they had the accident while they were filmed
Speaker 5: in one section of it that killed a couple of
Speaker 5: kids set. But I'm surprised with you know, we live
Speaker 5: in a remake society now. All your movies now are
Speaker 5: remakes of something thirty years ago. Well they did, I'm
Speaker 5: surprised they did Twilight Zone. Yeah, well how long was
Speaker 5: it on for?
Speaker 3: They did it twice one time.
Speaker 2: They did it in either the eighties or the nineties,
Speaker 2: And yeah, check it out because the Twilight Zone was
Speaker 2: redone eighties or nineties. As a matter of fact, there's
Speaker 2: a JFK episode from that eighties or nineties stint of
Speaker 2: the Twilight Zone. If you check it out. JFK is assassinated, right,
Speaker 2: and there's a guy that gets it. He's a history professor.
Speaker 2: He gets to go back in history and study historical events.
Speaker 2: And his whole thing is he wants to go see
Speaker 2: the JFK assassination in person, so he gets.
Speaker 3: To time travel back. You never saw this.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: It was before the Stephen King trime travel by a
Speaker 2: long shot, believe me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, look at I bet you it's up on
Speaker 3: YouTube for nothing at this point.
Speaker 2: But either way, if you do a little search on IMDb,
Speaker 2: you'll find that they rebooted it then and then recently
Speaker 2: CBS Paramount. I don't know if it's still going, but
Speaker 2: it was only a couple.
Speaker 3: Of years ago.
Speaker 2: They rebooted The Twilight Zone, except this time it was
Speaker 2: the guy from Key and Peel. Wow Man, whichever one
Speaker 2: is the director, I can't ever keep them straight. Which
Speaker 2: ones which? Remember the Key and Peel comedy team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the one guy's a movie director now. But he also
Speaker 2: rebooted The Twilight Zone on CBS when it was CBS
Speaker 2: All Access and it continued on into Paramount. But I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's still happening or not, because I
Speaker 2: didn't like it, but he rebooted it. That's two reboots
Speaker 2: I know about. So they did reboot that show, but
Speaker 2: still sci fi and everybody else will go back to
Speaker 2: those black and.
Speaker 5: And well I mean just the writing, you know, for
Speaker 5: for for not having the things that we have now
Speaker 5: technology wise, those old shows, I mean they had to
Speaker 5: put they had to put a lot more, They had
Speaker 5: to put better writing into it because you didn't have
Speaker 5: the effects that you have now.
Speaker 4: I mean, you go all the way back to War
Speaker 4: of the Worlds.
Speaker 5: You know, you look at what they did with the
Speaker 5: radio show and we're able to produce that as a
Speaker 5: live event, sound effects and everything compared to CGI and
Speaker 5: everything that you see now. I mean you really writers
Speaker 5: really had to produce something back then to make it
Speaker 5: interesting because you didn't have the visuals well.
Speaker 2: And also you didn't have as many things that had
Speaker 2: occurred yet.
Speaker 3: Uh yeah. And it's always funny because.
Speaker 2: I I I you know, hanging behind me and in
Speaker 2: where I'm sitting right now is a record of the
Speaker 2: uh of the War the World's broadcast, right And I
Speaker 2: bought that thing probably about twenty times in my life too.
Speaker 2: I bought cassettes of it, and I bought a record,
Speaker 2: and I bought all kinds of I had a DVD
Speaker 2: at one point of the original broadcast. Matter of fact,
Speaker 2: a couple of times on Mischief Night on the network here,
Speaker 2: I've replayed War of the Worlds on this network, okay,
Speaker 2: just because and I love that part of it takes
Speaker 2: place in New Jersey if you remember the professors from Princeton,
Speaker 2: and they talk about Brown's Mills, New Jersey, which is
Speaker 2: right there. Just it's either Burlington County or Ocean County,
Speaker 2: but it's just outside of again, where I was working
Speaker 2: when I worked in Whiting. Like right down the road
Speaker 2: was Brown's Mills, which is a nobody knows where the
Speaker 2: hell it is town in Jersey unless you live near it,
Speaker 2: which is funny because they were talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: farmland being attacked and everything else, and.
Speaker 3: They were using real places like.
Speaker 2: That contemporary we know these places exist, which was hilarious.
Speaker 2: But you know, I like what Bill Burs says, if
Speaker 2: people were just smart enough to turn the channel, they
Speaker 2: would have realized the alien invasion was only on CBS, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, that was the Columbia Broadcasting Network. But anyway,
Speaker 2: back to the wall, back to the Twilight Zone thing.
Speaker 2: It is extremely remarkable that people are still going back
Speaker 2: to a show that was in like nineteen fifty nine
Speaker 2: to sixty two. I think it ran if you take
Speaker 2: a look at the original run sixty four sixty four.
Speaker 5: Was sixty four Oh okay, yeah, it was five seasons.
Speaker 5: And then let's see, according to this, they put out
Speaker 5: a remake. Let me scroll back up, and they had
Speaker 5: a remake from it's in eighty five to eighty nine.
Speaker 3: There you go, I told you eighties.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And then they had a one season remake
Speaker 5: two thousand and two to three, and then twenty nineteen
Speaker 5: to twenty. So apparently they've tried to bring it back
Speaker 5: times and only one lasted four years.
Speaker 3: Right, Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense because I.
Speaker 2: Forgot right that either Showtime or HBO or one of
Speaker 2: the pay channels tried to do it because they had
Speaker 2: also done the Outer Limits and so they thought, well, hell,
Speaker 2: we'll reboot the Twilight Zone. So they licensed that.
Speaker 5: They had one one hundred and fifty six episodes, five seasons.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, that one in the eighty In the eighties though,
Speaker 2: was on regular TV, I think, And I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: if you searched through that one in the eighties, you'll
Speaker 2: find that JFK episode I'm telling you about the guy
Speaker 2: time travels and he's Professor Fitzgerald.
Speaker 3: Hint, hint, any time travels.
Speaker 2: It was kind of interesting, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: and didn't actually address I don't think it actually addresses
Speaker 2: like I think one of the reasons why I liked
Speaker 2: it is because it didn't like shoving your face. Hey
Speaker 2: Oswald did it too, by the way, idiots, you know,
Speaker 2: pretty much like Stephen King did.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I did not know this, but the eighty the eighty
Speaker 5: season from eighty five to eighty nine, theme music was
Speaker 5: written by Jerry Garcia and well basically The Grateful Dead.
Speaker 3: Oh nice. I wasn't aware of that either, yep, but
Speaker 3: see yeah.
Speaker 5: Theme music composer was Jerry Garcia, Bob Weir, Brent Midland,
Speaker 5: Phil Leish, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreuzman, Merl Sanders, Maryus Constant
Speaker 5: was the original theme writer.
Speaker 4: And then they produced.
Speaker 5: Twilight Zone eighty five main title performed by The Grateful Dead.
Speaker 2: Nice and and now that Twilight Zone movie was before
Speaker 2: this though, but yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I remember that one. And now that's the.
Speaker 5: One where the yeah, that's the one where damn it
Speaker 5: his name it's just on the Vicmorrow was in that
Speaker 5: one played a guy who was having a flashback from
Speaker 5: Vietnam and they had an accident with the helicopter on
Speaker 5: set and it ended up killing a couple of kids
Speaker 5: and really got the protection company in trouble because apparently
Speaker 5: they're violating child labor laws when it happened.
Speaker 2: In a foreign country. No less right, I mean, it
Speaker 2: wasn't shot here that part. It was shot in Thailand
Speaker 2: or something, right.
Speaker 4: I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 5: Let's see tomorrow let's do a quick search.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I know people still write about that today,
Speaker 2: you know, because it's like, you know, remember this when
Speaker 2: people got killed doing films, So it's one of those things,
Speaker 2: you know, it was pretty great.
Speaker 4: Oh that's why he died. Also, Yeah, let's see here.
Speaker 5: It says Vic Morrow was an actor who tractically died
Speaker 5: a helicopter accident while filing filming The Twilight Zone the
Speaker 5: movie July of nineteen eighty two.
Speaker 4: He was killed with two.
Speaker 5: Child actors when the helicopter lost control due to special
Speaker 5: effects explosions.
Speaker 4: A hell of a way to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there you go.
Speaker 2: And there was claims that, you know, it was just
Speaker 2: the like the rotor blades just cut everybody's heads off.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was all kinds of wild claims, and
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure they were buried in litigation for a.
Speaker 3: While over it.
Speaker 2: But I do remember that movie coming out, and I
Speaker 2: thought it came out later than eighty two. Well, then again,
Speaker 2: they were filming in eighty two, and I don't think
Speaker 2: the turnaround was that fast on movies back then, So
Speaker 2: probably it came out when I was like twelve, like
Speaker 2: in eighty four or something, right, because I think that's
Speaker 2: what sparked the TV revival, because I think that's.
Speaker 3: What sparked the TV revival.
Speaker 2: If I don't know, you know, look, these are vague
Speaker 2: memories of mine. I'm not looking it up. You are,
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm just saying, like I'm just going
Speaker 2: off the top.
Speaker 3: Of my head.
Speaker 4: Well, let's see here.
Speaker 5: The accident was in eighty two, right, let's see if
Speaker 5: they listen when the movie was put out. Yeah, they
Speaker 5: had tail road or failure. John Landis was directing, trying
Speaker 5: to find the location. Now it was Yeah, I said
Speaker 5: they The first segment violated California's child of labor laws
Speaker 5: by hiring a seven year old and a six year old.
Speaker 4: Without the required permits.
Speaker 5: Landis and his members of his staff were responsible for
Speaker 5: a number of labor violations connected with other people involved
Speaker 5: in the accident, which came to light later. Apparently the
Speaker 5: kids were being paid under the table to circumvent the
Speaker 5: state law about kids working at night.
Speaker 4: There you go. No, it was actually a movie ranch
Speaker 4: in Valencia. Wow, okay, California.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
Speaker 5: In Dunes, yeah, says The filming location was Indian Dunes,
Speaker 5: a movie ramp in the Valencia neighborhood of Santa Clarita,
Speaker 5: California that was used throughout the eighties and films and
Speaker 5: television shows. Yes, so within thirty miles of where all
Speaker 5: the studios are.
Speaker 2: See, if I don't study something, I only retained, you know,
Speaker 2: I only retained like the main facts of it. But
Speaker 2: the details might be a little mixed there. But maybe
Speaker 2: it's because of the kid's ethnicity. I was thinking it
Speaker 2: was Thailand. I don't know, but they.
Speaker 5: Had They said it was over a decade of lawsuits afterwards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, a lot of litigation.
Speaker 2: But that movie created enough of a stir because they
Speaker 2: brought Burgess Meredith. You know, it was like Burgess Meredith
Speaker 2: returns to the twilight Zone because he was in the original,
Speaker 2: you know, Twilight Zone, and a couple of them, a
Speaker 2: good handful of them had Burgess Meredith right, because he
Speaker 2: was in the Obsolete Man, and he was in the
Speaker 2: one where he's the librarian and his glasses break, and
Speaker 2: I think he might have been in the original Kick
Speaker 2: the Can, which is what they did in that movie.
Speaker 2: They did this thing where you know, old people go
Speaker 2: and try to play Kick the Can to regain their
Speaker 2: youth and then they turn into children and run away.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, let's see the movie. The movie came out
Speaker 4: in eighty three.
Speaker 2: Okay, so it took it like the next year by
Speaker 2: the time they settled down from the accident.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that makes kind of sense because maybe
Speaker 2: I saw it in the theater or maybe I saw
Speaker 2: it on cable, which it used to come out a
Speaker 2: year later on cable. So that's probably why I'm thinking
Speaker 2: eighty four. See I'm reconnecting this so on the movie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you had the movie come out eighty three, and
Speaker 5: then eighty four is when the first remake started on TV?
Speaker 3: Right, right?
Speaker 2: And which do you see the seasons in the episodes,
Speaker 2: because I guarantee you can find that JFK episode, because
Speaker 2: I'm telling you I was kind of surprised the way
Speaker 2: they handled it. I mean, it was a little eighties
Speaker 2: cheesy move. You know, eighties TV was a little cheesy. Okay,
Speaker 2: it just always was. So it's definitely like you can
Speaker 2: tell this was started in the eighties, like you could tell.
Speaker 5: All right, so are you saying Okay, so let's see
Speaker 5: you're saying it was in the eighty five series they
Speaker 5: had the JFK episode out for the original.
Speaker 2: No, not in the original, No, it's definitely not in
Speaker 2: the original. It was in color and one of the actors.
Speaker 3: Is God Like.
Speaker 2: He plays the prosecutor in My cousin Vinnie, the actor
Speaker 2: that ends up I think in one of the u
Speaker 2: in part of the episode.
Speaker 3: Anyway, forget all that point is.
Speaker 2: That I'm telling you the look of that episode is like,
Speaker 2: holy nineteen eighties Batman. You know, sort of like when
Speaker 2: you look at Star Trek the next generation. You got
Speaker 2: those women with the big hair, and you're like three
Speaker 2: hundred years later and they're gonna do big hair from
Speaker 2: the eighties. Yeah, it doesn't age well, but if you
Speaker 2: can suspend that little bit of disbelief, it's an interesting
Speaker 2: on the JFK assassination.
Speaker 3: And kind of would put to sleep.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 5: It was the twentieth episode of the first season of
Speaker 5: the eighty five Free Fible and it says the name
Speaker 5: of the episode was Profile in Silver.
Speaker 3: Ah.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, now I remember why it was titled that
Speaker 2: is because the professor is walking around with a JFK
Speaker 2: half dollar and it's like, you know, one hundred or
Speaker 2: two hundred years into the future, and he's like, I
Speaker 2: have this half dollar and I want to go back
Speaker 2: in history to witness this because I am a descendant
Speaker 2: of John F.
Speaker 3: Kennedy. Okay, Like I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what relative of mine he is, but you know,
Speaker 2: and his name is Fitzgerald his last name, Okay, so
Speaker 2: he's clearing from that part of his lineage. And he says, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a distant relative of mine.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to study that incident in history.
Speaker 2: And they can time travel, you know, at that point,
Speaker 2: and go back and look, but they're not supposed to,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously, get involved or anything.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but it's pretty wild.
Speaker 2: It's actually and I'm still not spoiling the biggest, you know,
Speaker 2: part of the story at all with what.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, but it gives you an idea.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: They go into the description about the coin. The coin
Speaker 5: was minted in sixty four, and that caused one of
Speaker 5: the Secret Service guys to start being suspicious of Fitzgerald,
Speaker 5: who you know you're referring to is the main character
Speaker 5: when he found the coin.
Speaker 3: Right, But that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Fitzgerald drops his coin that was an ancient coin to him,
Speaker 2: and they look at it. You know, the president just
Speaker 2: died and it's still November, and he's.
Speaker 3: Like, uh, wait a minute, that happens.
Speaker 2: Yes, but that's still not the strangest part of it.
Speaker 3: It gets weirder than that. But it's kind of like
Speaker 3: Twilight Zone, you know.
Speaker 2: The weird like twist of Twilight. It's definitely in the
Speaker 2: spirit of the original series.
Speaker 3: And I don't think I bet that one. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: it's a good watch. I'm telling you. If you can
Speaker 3: find it somewhere for free, do it. It's not bad.
Speaker 2: And you know what, even those like you know, those
Speaker 2: like digital broadcast channels that like are right now playing
Speaker 2: like mcgiver and a Team and stuff, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like they have all the eighties syndicated stuff
Speaker 2: that's now probably real cheap to rerun. Those channels that
Speaker 2: are rerunning eighty stuff might even rerun that Twilight Zone
Speaker 2: at some point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we get I forget what's nine of the Week
Speaker 5: it is, But one of the channels is not charge
Speaker 5: it's I forget it's something.
Speaker 4: One of the channels that carries a lot of the
Speaker 4: sci fi stuff. They've got it on. They show it
Speaker 4: for like two episodes for an hour.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well sci Fi channel might be available via broadcast.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but sci Fi does still does them. Oh, comet,
Speaker 2: there you go. Come it's another one.
Speaker 4: Uh yeah, they show a lot of sci fi stuff.
Speaker 2: There's another one that does like a block of Star
Speaker 2: Treks too, where they do the original series, Next Generation,
Speaker 2: Deep Space nine and Voyager, like one episode from each
Speaker 2: in a row and it dominates like the whole you
Speaker 2: know night on one of the channels we have that
Speaker 2: on what is.
Speaker 3: That High five or.
Speaker 5: High E or m M Y will have it, okay,
Speaker 5: because I would.
Speaker 4: Say I always see it. I always see it in
Speaker 4: the evening's about five to six o'clock. They're running it
Speaker 4: for an hour.
Speaker 3: There's another channel that's called like High Fi or something like.
Speaker 2: The digital broadcast channels are weird nowadays. You know you
Speaker 2: have the me TV and stuff like that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: so like and and they are local annals that are
Speaker 2: still you know, licensed to broadcast in some area somewhere,
Speaker 2: but they dedicate that, but they're kind of dressed up
Speaker 2: almost as if they're a cable channel. So you know,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. But but yeah, but that's
Speaker 2: the thing. So all right, anyhow, I don't know why
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Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 3: And meanwhile we got oh, we got a caller.
Speaker 2: Alrighty, So what do you think should bring long? Well,
Speaker 2: I think we should take a quick break before we
Speaker 2: bring on the caller, just because where are we at
Speaker 2: here time wise? We're almost through an hour, So I
Speaker 2: think if we get in the break and then that
Speaker 2: way I don't have to bother with another one because
Speaker 2: I like to try and attach at least a break
Speaker 2: to the show. But sometimes I miss, and you know,
Speaker 2: we get caught up and I don't even bother. But
Speaker 2: I'd like to make sure we get at least one in.
Speaker 2: Although I did have a weird situation with missus o'
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Speaker 2: had trouble with the Jetsy it. I could still hear her,
Speaker 2: but she couldn't hear me. I don't know what went
Speaker 2: on because we tested it.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: The funny thing is, we tested it, it was working fine,
Speaker 2: and then I don't know if she was doing it
Speaker 2: on her phone in the other room to separate the microphones, okay,
Speaker 2: so we wouldn't bleed into each other, and it was fine.
Speaker 2: I thought it was great actually, and then I don't know,
Speaker 2: we started talking and she just like lost me and
Speaker 2: she's like Lou and then she's sitting there breathing and
Speaker 2: doesn't realize she's still on the mic. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm taking a break. So there's unscheduled breaks sometimes, but
Speaker 2: we'll take a quick scheduled break, and when we come back,
Speaker 2: what we'll do is get right to looks like Danny
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Speaker 2: And I think I've got Danny from California on and
Speaker 2: I'm not going to mix them up with Chris from
Speaker 2: Florida this time.
Speaker 3: So let's sing, Danny, I think you're live. How you doing?
Speaker 6: Hello?
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm doing well, excellent. So what's on your mind
Speaker 3: this week?
Speaker 6: Well, I'm getting I'm getting feedback.
Speaker 4: I'm hearing myself.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: So let me take you off to speak and it
Speaker 6: is the problem. Okay, well that's why he's on speaker.
Speaker 3: Okay. Is that better, Danny?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Are you hearing yourself?
Speaker 6: That is better? I apologize for that. Yeah, it seems
Speaker 6: like there's a problem with the speaker phone. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 6: doing well, and uh yeah, I had kind of one
Speaker 6: of those weird days where I didn't really I was
Speaker 6: kind of often went on a long vacation trying to
Speaker 6: get back to things. But hey, I kind of went
Speaker 6: on a binge and your staff you're snaffy news and
Speaker 6: I like. I like it. I'm just giving you a
Speaker 6: thumbs up. It's enjoyable and I like the analysis. You're good.
Speaker 6: You're good analysis. Whether I agree or disagree, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: So okay, Well, since you took a binge on that,
Speaker 2: I got a question for you, and I want to
Speaker 2: see you noticed. I'm trying to add a little bit
Speaker 2: of more humor into things because people are saying to me,
Speaker 2: you should do more humor stuff. And I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: no good at humor, and I'm not looking for you
Speaker 2: to say it's good that I do. Like I'm good
Speaker 2: at it, but what I am looking to see is
Speaker 2: if it's a welcome thing or not, because I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know, you make the wrong joke nowadays and people
Speaker 2: are ready to, you know, come at you with the pitchforks,
Speaker 2: either digitally or in person, one way or another.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if it's a good idea for
Speaker 3: me to add to my problems with humor.
Speaker 2: But again, I'm taking suggestions from supporters, and if you guys.
Speaker 3: Want to hear it, let me know.
Speaker 2: And if you don't tell me, you don't too, because
Speaker 2: I'd appreciate the feedback. So did you notice it? And
Speaker 2: is it a welcome edition or should I just tone
Speaker 2: it down add more? What is your opinion since you
Speaker 2: just binged all.
Speaker 6: That, Yeah, I would, I would just stay where you're
Speaker 6: at because great, Frankly, I think where you're looking at
Speaker 6: is you have a great sense of humor her. I
Speaker 6: mean you're able to laugh at yourself and even some
Speaker 6: dark situations. That part. I mean, that's kind of refreshing.
Speaker 6: And you're good at that. I mean you liked off
Speaker 6: the coat jokes. I mean, who's really good at that?
Speaker 6: You're don't stand up all the time. I mean you're
Speaker 6: you're analyzing the news and you're I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Hey, I'm happy to hear that, you know, But
Speaker 2: like I said, I would be more than happy to
Speaker 2: take a look, you know, shut up.
Speaker 3: With the humor already, you're not funny. I'll take that too,
Speaker 3: uh you know, I.
Speaker 6: Just yeah, yeah, yeah, another continue through missus owen there.
Speaker 6: I hope she's feeling better. Something's going on with her
Speaker 6: voice doing the thing that I like. I like missus O.
Speaker 6: You know when you asked her to comment, she said, yeah,
Speaker 6: move on, No, that's no good. I mean, she's she's blood.
Speaker 6: Which is I think you got to kick out of
Speaker 6: it too.
Speaker 3: I can tell no, definitely, because look, she's the only
Speaker 3: person all right. This is the fun part.
Speaker 2: And also those conversations that you hear on there are
Speaker 2: literally the same thing we have off air anyway, where
Speaker 2: like I'll sit there and run my mouth, you know,
Speaker 2: for like a few minutes, and then goes, so.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 2: And she just goes, yeah, it's just like I put
Speaker 2: up with you talking about it, but enough already, I
Speaker 2: don't even want to play, you know.
Speaker 3: And so she does that, and I think that's great because.
Speaker 2: Almost nobody else does that where they just go, you
Speaker 2: know what, I don't actually have an opinion, screw it.
Speaker 2: And I think that's great because you know, I don't
Speaker 2: know what's weirder lately that people have to have an
Speaker 2: opinion about everything, and they think that their opinion like
Speaker 2: counts the same as facts, and their opinion is their opinion.
Speaker 2: It's like, my god, people are obsessed with their own opinions.
Speaker 2: And she sometimes just goes like, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't care, and I like that you don't have to
Speaker 2: have an opinion on everything. You know, opinions are useful
Speaker 2: when you have them at key moments.
Speaker 3: Or about things that you know something about. But unfortunately
Speaker 3: we've been encouraged, you know, especially I don't know. I
Speaker 3: feel like my generation, more than anything, was encouraged that
Speaker 3: their opinions were so freaking important that they literally can
Speaker 3: drive way too much, you know, because your opinion is
Speaker 3: not facts. It's just not.
Speaker 2: And that's it drives me crazy with people where it's like,
Speaker 2: well I think this, so therefore no, no, no, stop.
Speaker 2: You think that I don't know what you based it on,
Speaker 2: but you think that you feel that your opinion is that,
Speaker 2: now please back it up with something, because if not,
Speaker 2: then it's just your opinion.
Speaker 3: You're entitled to it. But think about it.
Speaker 2: Some opinions carry more weight than others. There is a
Speaker 2: reason for it, so it just drives me nuts with
Speaker 2: some people where it's like anything you say, you know,
Speaker 2: hit anywhere in their vicinity, and even though they've never
Speaker 2: eaten chicken, they're going to tell you the best way
Speaker 2: to cook it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: And it's just like, dude, you know nothing about that's
Speaker 3: let it go. But people don't.
Speaker 2: And there's whole industries driven on this where you know,
Speaker 2: like if you look at most influencers online, most of
Speaker 2: what they're telling you is their opinion, and what are
Speaker 2: their opinions based on, usually their opposition to somebody else's
Speaker 2: opinion or their agreement to somebody else's opinion. And when
Speaker 2: you take a look at these people, if you really
Speaker 2: knew them, you wouldn't care what their opinion was. I mean, so,
Speaker 2: you know, because it's amazing that there's people with huge
Speaker 2: contracts who have zero intelligence. It seems like analyze nothing.
Speaker 2: I drive myself crazy analyzing stuff. Like literally this week
Speaker 2: I spent hours on overnights okay, going over what's wrong
Speaker 2: with things I'm saying on the show. I went over
Speaker 2: the because the speaker generates transcripts for every show, Okay,
Speaker 2: they're AI driven transcripts, so they're slightly imperfect, but I
Speaker 2: wanted to find the bad patterns in things I was saying.
Speaker 2: And I did that for hours and hours, and then
Speaker 2: the next day when I got up, I continued it.
Speaker 2: After I slept for about two hours, I got up
Speaker 2: and did it again, like nine hour stints of analyzing
Speaker 2: what the hell is wrong with what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Okay, because I'm nuts.
Speaker 6: Now, question question, Yeah, with all your analysts, have you
Speaker 6: discovered anything Like, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I've discovered some patterns and some interesting stuff.
Speaker 2: And then I turned it on other people to see
Speaker 2: what they you know, because I'm not the only one
Speaker 2: that generates transcripts. If you go on YouTube, okay, YouTube,
Speaker 2: which you know, anybody can pretty much freely access, even
Speaker 2: though you get freaking ground down by the commercials now.
Speaker 2: But either way, if you put up with those, almost
Speaker 2: everything has a transcript to the video. Now, so you
Speaker 2: can go over and read and visually cut up the patterns,
Speaker 2: not just listen and you know, go with your emotions,
Speaker 2: because your emotions will drive part.
Speaker 3: Of what you're listening to.
Speaker 2: But you look at it and you can form patterns
Speaker 2: of what's happening in certain people's videos and you can
Speaker 2: see what they're repeating. And then see, this is what
Speaker 2: I was talking about with the AI. See there's this
Speaker 2: guy who has a YouTube channel, all right, and what
Speaker 2: he does is he analyzed. It is like he's obsessed
Speaker 2: with analyzing Trump's speeches is what he does, okay, And
Speaker 2: for some reason he keeps running it through chat GPT
Speaker 2: and finding out what chat GPT thinks about Donald Trump's speech,
Speaker 2: all right, which is dumb as hell because you're asking
Speaker 2: chat gpt to think, okay, and Jimmy just hung up.
Speaker 2: I wanted to get to Jimmy next, but I wanted
Speaker 2: to since you asked, I want to. It's okay, It's okay,
Speaker 2: but please Jimmy call back.
Speaker 3: I'll get right to you. I just I wanted to
Speaker 3: answer Danny Philly.
Speaker 2: But the thing is this on chat GPT, right, He's
Speaker 2: asking chat GPT to think for him. And I'm going,
Speaker 2: this is you know, comedic, because I mean, I would
Speaker 2: never ask chat gpt to think for me. But is
Speaker 2: there a way to use this tool to analyze speech
Speaker 2: for myself? And what you can do is say you
Speaker 2: put in a phrase, all right, and you ask chat
Speaker 2: GPT to go find where somebody else has also expressed
Speaker 2: exactly the same phrase in a transcript. Okay, and you
Speaker 2: can find that there are exact and nearly exact phrases
Speaker 2: that are repeated across various groups of people. Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: being as general as I can about this. And the
Speaker 2: thing is that I wanted to see where I landed
Speaker 2: among these people and see if I was repeating stuff
Speaker 2: at one point. This is how this starts, and it
Speaker 2: became a whole madness for me where I just kept
Speaker 2: doing it and I was obsessively going through my own speech.
Speaker 2: But you could turn this literally, you guys, if you
Speaker 2: take this idea and run with it.
Speaker 3: You take one of your picking. AI doesn't matter, Groc,
Speaker 3: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Go grab one of those a slightly higher not the
Speaker 2: really crappy one, but a slightly higher one that can
Speaker 2: actually go and pull things out of news media and
Speaker 2: stuff like.
Speaker 3: That, because there's a whole news website.
Speaker 2: That does this, that tells you, look, this is what
Speaker 2: the left is saying, this is what the right is saying,
Speaker 2: this is what the actual you know, independent media is saying.
Speaker 2: And they divide up the news for you see, you
Speaker 2: know what spin you're getting well, I realized they're only
Speaker 2: using pattern recognition driven by AI to do it, and
Speaker 2: it's accessible to all of us.
Speaker 3: We can all do it. So I went through pattern recognition,
Speaker 3: and you find the obvious.
Speaker 2: Right, your Sinclair groups are all repeating the same script.
Speaker 2: Now we already knew that, but they're literally repeating the
Speaker 2: same script because they're fed along with their local news
Speaker 2: certain national news things and they are told to say.
Speaker 2: Every one of these news anchors has the same script
Speaker 2: in front of them, and you can see it laid
Speaker 2: out if you use the AI. So anyway, I wanted
Speaker 2: to find my patterns. Am I actually repeating stuff that
Speaker 2: other people are saying?
Speaker 3: And I found that I was.
Speaker 2: But the problem is I was identifying this is the difference.
Speaker 2: I was identifying that I was repeating somebody else's words.
Speaker 2: So when I brought it up and told you about
Speaker 2: somebody else's words, I didn't present it as my own idea.
Speaker 2: These other people were presenting it as their own idea.
Speaker 3: And it is not. It is not a one side
Speaker 3: or the other problem, folks.
Speaker 2: It's funny, but you could imagine exactly which suspects do it.
Speaker 2: Now you can turn that against anybody on YouTube and
Speaker 2: add them into the equation, or you'll already find them
Speaker 2: in the equation, but they're almost lost in the needle
Speaker 2: in you know, they're like needle in the haystack, right,
Speaker 2: because once you get through Sinclair and Fox News and
Speaker 2: all these people that are reading off of the same script,
Speaker 2: and you can see the timing of it and when
Speaker 2: it originated and how it rippled out. Even if you
Speaker 2: go a little further on your own, you can study
Speaker 2: this for yourselves and you can see who's leading the pack.
Speaker 2: And it's not always Fox News, by the way, just
Speaker 2: so you know, they do it a lot, but it's
Speaker 2: not always them.
Speaker 3: On the right.
Speaker 2: The left does the same stupid thing where even if
Speaker 2: it's something that makes no sense or it's a pointless story,
Speaker 2: even like the left will turn around and give you
Speaker 2: the you know, and a panda today decided to you know,
Speaker 2: fart on a grizzly bear.
Speaker 8: Hahaha.
Speaker 2: They'll they'll repeat that verbatim with the same video clip
Speaker 2: and it's just hilarious. But when I do it, if
Speaker 2: you take away where I'm quoting somebody, because I'm literally,
Speaker 2: you know, thinking out loud, doing media analysis on the show.
Speaker 3: If you subtract that. Yeah, my thoughts are my own.
Speaker 2: I only repeat things, as you know, like close to verbatim,
Speaker 2: maybe fifteen percent of when I'm doing it, maybe, okay,
Speaker 2: And it's not all on one side or the other.
Speaker 2: It's right and left. Sometimes I do lean left apparently,
Speaker 2: but it's not like you know, so maybe ten percent
Speaker 2: of that fifteen like ten out of the fifteen percent
Speaker 2: or eight out of the fifteen percent, I'm probably leaning left,
Speaker 2: But the rest of it I'm probably leaning right, which
Speaker 2: is hilarious. But that's how I get demonized by both sides,
Speaker 2: because the other eighty five percent, when I'm not quoting somebody,
Speaker 2: are usually my own weird phrases, my own weird tripovers.
Speaker 4: You have a scoliosis of opinion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but you'd be amazed how many people are
Speaker 2: just just repeating things and claiming it to be their
Speaker 2: own opinions.
Speaker 3: And I know for certain not everybody realizes it. So
Speaker 3: you know, again, you don't pick the media.
Speaker 2: People don't come from another planet, folks, So among yourselves
Speaker 2: at home, if you're not recording yourself constantly like a fool, okay,
Speaker 2: and you're not doing a podcast constantly, or you're not
Speaker 2: commenting on a radio show constantly, or you're not running
Speaker 2: your mouth for thousands of hours like I do. If
Speaker 2: you're not doing that, you don't have the same recordings
Speaker 2: to compare. But if you decide to take your favorite
Speaker 2: people or the people you're listening to regularly or whatever,
Speaker 2: and you run them through this sort of same process
Speaker 2: that I very loosely described here, I didn't even give
Speaker 2: you the specifics.
Speaker 3: I didn't tell you which AI to use. Nothing, try it.
Speaker 3: Try it.
Speaker 2: Do it to me and duplicate my results if you like,
Speaker 2: do it to anybody you want that produces transcripts and
Speaker 2: speaker hasm I know, and YouTube hasm.
Speaker 3: So guess how many podcasts I just covered.
Speaker 2: And I know that there's other pod catchers and delivery
Speaker 2: systems that also have automated transcripts. Now, I'm not saying
Speaker 2: the results are perfect, but I'm thinking it's probably you know,
Speaker 2: maybe the percentages aren't exact, but it seems to me
Speaker 2: relatively accurate. And I've recognized this pattern and not known how.
Speaker 3: To articulate it for years. And it all started with.
Speaker 2: Me getting pissed off at the fact that my audience
Speaker 2: is shrinking and I'm saying what am I doing wrong?
Speaker 2: What is it that I'm obviously repeating some mistake And
Speaker 2: I wanted to check and see what the mistake was
Speaker 2: on air, so I went through it, and Yeah, when
Speaker 2: I'm not reading from somebody else's writing directly, and I
Speaker 2: tell you I'm reading and I'm not telling you that
Speaker 2: I'm quoting somebody, Yeah, my opinions are my own. And
Speaker 2: that's a weird space to be in because apparently the
Speaker 2: majority of broadcasters, influencers, YouTubers, okay, TikTokers, et cetera, are
Speaker 2: literally reading a script, whether they realize it or not.
Speaker 2: So that's the way I look at it. It's the
Speaker 2: mass psychological script, is what I'm calling it at the moment.
Speaker 2: But I'll come up with a better title, Danny. So,
Speaker 2: what do you think about all.
Speaker 3: That that I just laid out for you?
Speaker 6: Well, what I think here, here's here's some thoughts about it,
Speaker 6: is that if you're looking at just what has happened
Speaker 6: to podcasting in our social media, I mean, who's who
Speaker 6: owns X the richest man in the world, who's buying
Speaker 6: TikTok and CNN, Another very wealthy person in the world
Speaker 6: who owns Faceboot one of the richest people in the world,
Speaker 6: and guess what the Washington Posts another very wealthy person. Well,
Speaker 6: you're having now as a monopoly on on what's going
Speaker 6: to be broadcast because those are those are were the
Speaker 6: those are your influencers. So your pattern recognition makes a
Speaker 6: lot of sense because if you're hitting left right, if
Speaker 6: you're reading off the script, there's there's a lot of
Speaker 6: content to to you know, parallel it up, if that
Speaker 6: makes sense.
Speaker 3: But it's not just this one company.
Speaker 2: It's funny, it's like it's across a spectrum where it's
Speaker 2: like people that you really do think are aligned or
Speaker 2: aligned a couple of weird anomalies in that though, if
Speaker 2: you check, like the broadcasters that have shows on CNBC,
Speaker 2: they're not in line with the MSNBC people. Okay, so,
Speaker 2: but but I'm just saying it's interesting to be able
Speaker 2: to like sort of in a weird way, kind of
Speaker 2: loosely quantify what I'm seeing.
Speaker 3: And I'm telling you right now this is a.
Speaker 2: Question you should ask yourselves out there. You're not broadcasting,
Speaker 2: but you're listening to somebody, you're listening to or you're
Speaker 2: reading somebody.
Speaker 3: How many things just question yourselves.
Speaker 2: How many things do you think are coming out of
Speaker 2: your mouth that actually were scripted by somebody else, Whether
Speaker 2: you agree with them or not, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: get into. But how many things are you identifying as
Speaker 2: your own thoughts that did not originate with you? That's
Speaker 2: all I'm asking anybody to add. Ask themselves, because I
Speaker 2: did it, okay, and I think it's a worthy thing
Speaker 2: to do, because at that point you'll realize that there
Speaker 2: really is a reason why they call it programming, and
Speaker 2: you know, these things are logical results of one another.
Speaker 2: The YouTubers wouldn't be this way if the TV hadn't
Speaker 2: have been that way, and if the t you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and then the tik tokers wouldn't be
Speaker 2: that way if the YouTubers hadn't turned out that way.
Speaker 2: This is a domino effect that goes all the way
Speaker 2: down to you know, if somebody strikes up a conversation
Speaker 2: with me at the circle K, I'm going to hear
Speaker 2: the same thing. And so you know, look, if you're
Speaker 2: happy with that, great, but take a look at it
Speaker 2: and take a look at who it is you're listening to,
Speaker 2: and you know, how many photocopies of an idea.
Speaker 3: Do you get before the idea looks bad? Is the
Speaker 3: question I'm going to ask, because as you.
Speaker 2: Get further and further down the line, Look, some people
Speaker 2: are paid to speak. Some people are you know, very articulate,
Speaker 2: make themselves clear. Some people are a little confusing like
Speaker 2: I am. Which also really annoying to me is how
Speaker 2: many UM's and ah's and oohs and everything else I
Speaker 2: drop in like like a jackass. I really felt stupid
Speaker 2: reading my own text. But anyway, don't do that to yourself.
Speaker 2: You don't have to. But take a look at the
Speaker 2: people that are really well polished, professional, well edited and
Speaker 2: everything else, and it gets even worse because they don't
Speaker 2: have original ideas. People that are looked to like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is a great thinker, always a smart person, they're
Speaker 2: an idiot. They're an idiot reading off a script. And
Speaker 2: if they don't have the script in front of them,
Speaker 2: they've had it banged into their head by somebody else already.
Speaker 2: So how far down the line do you want to
Speaker 2: be before you have an original thought? That's my question
Speaker 2: for everybody tonight, you know, like, do you want your
Speaker 2: own thoughts or do you just want somebody else to
Speaker 2: feed them to you. And if really the majority of
Speaker 2: people feel like they just want somebody to feed them
Speaker 2: the right thought, then I understand why my audience is
Speaker 2: shrinking because I don't fit that pattern.
Speaker 3: So I'm not giving you what you want. I get it.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I get it. You know, BPTE, do
Speaker 3: you have any thoughts about this?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know from what I've read, studied, come across,
Speaker 5: and other people's opinion. You know, most people seek out
Speaker 5: those things to listen to that reinforces the belief they've
Speaker 5: already got. And you know, a lot of times that
Speaker 5: belief is not based on them thinking about something. They
Speaker 5: hear something and they like it, or they hear something
Speaker 5: and it fits into what they were thinking originally, and
Speaker 5: they stick with those people. I don't understand the popularity
Speaker 5: of some of these podcasters just.
Speaker 4: Listening to them.
Speaker 5: It's like if I go on YouTube and I see
Speaker 5: a thumbnail that says blah blah blah is a headline,
Speaker 5: and I click on it and it ends up being
Speaker 5: nothing more than a podcast, no video. So all you're
Speaker 5: hearing is the audio is somebody rambling on. You know,
Speaker 5: the majority of those, I immediately click away because it's
Speaker 5: either the tone of their voice or them trying to insert,
Speaker 5: you know, an opinion in the middle of reading a statement,
Speaker 5: and it just it's too much for me. I'm sorry,
Speaker 5: Maybe I need the visual to go along with it.
Speaker 5: I'd rather sit there and watch somebody talk on a
Speaker 5: mic than have no visual and just an audio stream.
Speaker 5: And that's why I really don't like podcasts that much,
Speaker 5: because most podcasts are just audio.
Speaker 3: So, just as a suggestion, do you think we should
Speaker 3: go to a visual format more? Somehow?
Speaker 6: It may?
Speaker 4: I don't know, it may help bring in people.
Speaker 5: The thing about visuals is, you know, if you're discussing something, oh,
Speaker 5: this document was just released, Well, it's nice to be
Speaker 5: able to have the document, you know, in front of you,
Speaker 5: to be able to see what they're.
Speaker 4: Talking about or to follow along.
Speaker 5: So I prefer more the video aspect of it than
Speaker 5: just the audio podcast of it, because you're able to
Speaker 5: utilize your screen to put things up there.
Speaker 3: You know, you're.
Speaker 5: Discussing a photograph, just like in our JFK discussions, you know,
Speaker 5: we talk about a photograph with somebody there. It's nice
Speaker 5: to be able to have a photograph up there while
Speaker 5: everybody's talking about it, so you can see what they're
Speaker 5: talking about. Maybe I've gotten lazy. You know, back in radio,
Speaker 5: everything was based on what you could visually picture. And
Speaker 5: that's why, you know my comment about being able to
Speaker 5: write things. You know, these writers had to be able
Speaker 5: to produce that picture in their description so that you
Speaker 5: could sit there and think and picture what it is
Speaker 5: they're talking about. Where nowadays, with the graphics and all,
Speaker 5: you get that, you know, the action figure. You go
Speaker 5: to one of these new action movies, the script, nobody
Speaker 5: talks about the script.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's those.
Speaker 5: It's those computer generated graphics that they're talking about. You know,
Speaker 5: you think about when Star Wars first came out and
Speaker 5: you look at the the CGI then compared to the
Speaker 5: CGI now and these Marvel movies and things like that,
Speaker 5: there's no comparison.
Speaker 4: But when Star Wars. When Star Wars came out, we thought,
Speaker 4: you know, hey, this is the bomb. You know, this
Speaker 4: is the most amazing thing we've seen.
Speaker 5: When you jump from hyperspace and you know, you know,
Speaker 5: a split second it's booming and it's gone.
Speaker 4: There's things like that stick with you. But now that.
Speaker 5: AGI's out there and can damn near produce anything your
Speaker 5: imagination can come up with.
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe we've gotten lazy, we don't use
Speaker 4: our imagination enough. But it's just me. It's the visual
Speaker 4: part of it. Yeah, it See, it's me entertained enough
Speaker 4: to stick there.
Speaker 2: See, because my eyesight is challenged, right, I'm more about
Speaker 2: the audio of things anyway. Like I literally listen to
Speaker 2: YouTube as opposed to watching it most of the time,
Speaker 2: and so my perspective is off there, which, by the way,
Speaker 2: that's another thing that differentiated like on the Friday night
Speaker 2: shows is that when we sat here and we talked
Speaker 2: about stuff, that was just like, like, you know, the
Speaker 2: first almost hour of this show, you and I were
Speaker 2: talking about what VHS tapes, TV shows, movies now the
Speaker 2: chrome polish, chrome polished, all right. When we're doing that, right,
Speaker 2: our thoughts seem to be our own when we're looking
Speaker 2: back at stuff, which is funny because when we go
Speaker 2: to current events, all of a sudden, the patterns emerge,
Speaker 2: so it's really weird. And I also have the transcripts
Speaker 2: of the callers, so you know.
Speaker 3: And you can look at it yourself if you want.
Speaker 2: I swear You can download the transcripts from speaker for
Speaker 2: me because I'm not on YouTube, but anybody on YouTube,
Speaker 2: whether they're visual or not, break it into the transcript
Speaker 2: and take a look at it. It's very weird, it's like,
Speaker 2: and it kind of made me understand. Actually, Danny, you're
Speaker 2: gonna appreciate this. I bet it kind of made me understand.
Speaker 3: Why.
Speaker 2: Okay, because I've been asking myself since twenty fifteen, why
Speaker 2: in the hell is the rest of this country taking
Speaker 2: Donald Trump seriously? I've been asking that question since twenty
Speaker 2: fifteen to myself and sometimes out loud.
Speaker 3: Why is this happening?
Speaker 6: This guy?
Speaker 2: I can't figure out why anybody would take him seriously?
Speaker 2: And it finally dawned on me while I was doing this.
Speaker 2: Actually I've had the thought before, but it was like
Speaker 2: it almost hit me between the eyes.
Speaker 3: Why it is he's working.
Speaker 2: It's because he takes very complex things and gives you
Speaker 2: a very simple answer for it. So people that cannot
Speaker 2: understand complexity, who think that everything has a simple solution,
Speaker 2: are happy with him because finally they understand the world
Speaker 2: around them.
Speaker 3: Previously they didn't.
Speaker 2: There is a huge population of people like this, and
Speaker 2: those people make up the most intense supporters of his
Speaker 2: and that's his base is people that think, oh, it's
Speaker 2: just this simple now, even though they're twenty, they're thirty,
Speaker 2: they're fifty, they're eighty, it doesn't matter. They've spent their
Speaker 2: lives going, well, that's real nice, sir. I'm glad you
Speaker 2: gotta find dollar words because I can't break that bill.
Speaker 2: They go, this guy can be in charge, and he
Speaker 2: talks the way I do, because if you read what
Speaker 2: Trump says as opposed to listening to it, sometimes it's
Speaker 2: completely incoherent in written form, but it makes sense because I.
Speaker 4: Can carry to him.
Speaker 6: See.
Speaker 3: But there you go. You can't even listen to the
Speaker 3: guy because it hurts your head. I can't out it's
Speaker 3: gonna hurt.
Speaker 4: The biggest thing I don't understand is that man has been.
Speaker 5: Speaking publicly for years in these business dealings and being
Speaker 5: on TV and now president, and I just can't.
Speaker 4: Listen to him the way he rambles, and and I
Speaker 4: don't know. I can't believe he's gone as far and
Speaker 4: hasn't had a public.
Speaker 5: Speaking of course, of all the money that he's blown
Speaker 5: over the years, but he would have been a good investment.
Speaker 3: But you would think so, but I don't think so.
Speaker 3: You know why he never knew why would he ever
Speaker 3: need it? Look, you have encountered in your life.
Speaker 2: I guarantee at some point a rich kid, Okay, an
Speaker 2: honest and honest to goodness.
Speaker 3: You look at this kid.
Speaker 2: You know he's never going to actually have to work
Speaker 2: a day in his life, and daddy's money is going
Speaker 2: to take care of him and his kids, no matter
Speaker 2: how many slack yawn fools he decides to pump out
Speaker 2: of his trophy wife. You know that guy is never
Speaker 2: going to have to work to feed those kids.
Speaker 3: He's set. And you've met a guy like that? Have
Speaker 3: you met one that's smart? Have you met one that
Speaker 3: has to.
Speaker 2: Put in effort at all except maybe make dad happy?
Speaker 2: But other than that, they have no other pressure in life?
Speaker 3: So how do they behave? Are they smart? People?
Speaker 4: Just?
Speaker 2: Just I want to know if you've met one, because
Speaker 2: I have a counter if you have, but few that
Speaker 2: were smart?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I met a guy, yeah dismassed. Okay, I'm amazed.
Speaker 3: I am literally amazed. Go ahead tell me.
Speaker 4: He was a trust fund baby. He went to NC State.
Speaker 5: He was in EG engineering courses, and while he was there,
Speaker 5: he heard a topic some guy came in to talk
Speaker 5: about aquaculture, and he started listening, and he thought, you know,
Speaker 5: this is a business that I could get into locally
Speaker 5: and probably do pretty good at.
Speaker 4: So when he graduated, he took some of his trust.
Speaker 5: Fund money and went and bought a bunch of property
Speaker 5: out here in the middle of the county. It's about
Speaker 5: maybe fifteen to twenty miles from here, and he built
Speaker 5: four catfish ponds, okay, and he started farm raised catfish.
Speaker 4: And he gets into it about.
Speaker 5: The first year and a half two years, and he's
Speaker 5: he's harvesting and he's having to send it off to
Speaker 5: a processor, and he thinks, you know, I'm spending a
Speaker 5: lot of money hauling fish all over the damn place
Speaker 5: to be processed. So he goes out here on the
Speaker 5: highway and builds his own processing plant and also puts
Speaker 5: a drive up the window there so that these fish
Speaker 5: fil a's that you're buying in all these major grocery
Speaker 5: stores you can buy locally ten pounds at a time
Speaker 5: by hitting the drive through window. The guy's done so
Speaker 5: well that now he makes his well, I guess he
Speaker 5: makes his pocket money being paid to go around and
Speaker 5: give these talks about how to get into aquaculture. His
Speaker 5: first year, he got two restaurants, Popeyes and I forget
Speaker 5: who the other one was to buy one hundred percent
Speaker 5: of his production. So he's producing this stuff, he has
Speaker 5: to send it off for processing. He gets smart, I
Speaker 5: can cut the middle guy out, do my own processing.
Speaker 5: All the profit is mine and the guy is worth
Speaker 5: a fortune now separate from what he trust fund. Baby
Speaker 5: guy was really smart about business. And when it came
Speaker 5: to aquaculture, the guy was a genius.
Speaker 3: That's one guy like that.
Speaker 2: And I swear to you, if you go back two
Speaker 2: or three years, you've told this story and almost exactly
Speaker 2: the same.
Speaker 3: And I guess how I know that. But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: How many more would you say that you've met? Because
Speaker 2: you met a few, you said, are are they like him?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: Are they comparable?
Speaker 2: You don't got to give me details, just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they're that kind of success, they're motivated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're comparable. I mean they were.
Speaker 5: They they filled themselves with education and they didn't stick
Speaker 5: to the normal things.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: They like they might have they might have their BS
Speaker 5: degree in mechanical engineering, but their PhD is in business,
Speaker 5: or they went to an engineering school and then went
Speaker 5: to law school, and now they're the guys that get
Speaker 5: called when a bridge collapsed and somebody wants somebody to sue.
Speaker 5: They're the guys that go in and do the you know,
Speaker 5: the analysis and the testing and things like that. And yeah,
Speaker 5: I've met you know, but it's a handful. And I've
Speaker 5: met a lot of people in my life. I mean, well,
Speaker 5: I've been around sixty five years. I've met a lot
Speaker 5: of people.
Speaker 3: Right right. That's that's why I'm asking a handful of those. Now,
Speaker 3: let me ask you this question. Are those guys from
Speaker 3: the south all of them?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'd say about half and half.
Speaker 3: Really, Wow, you've got a lot of I'd.
Speaker 5: Say half of them are from out west, places like
Speaker 5: Montana and Colorado and New Mexico and nice middle of nowhere.
Speaker 3: Okay. Any of them from the Northeast.
Speaker 4: Uh, Probably a couple, Probably a couple.
Speaker 3: Hmmm, all right. I gotta tell you, I run across maybe.
Speaker 2: I run across people who've had money, not that many,
Speaker 2: but I gotta say that it might be six or
Speaker 2: seven guys that I've run across in my life that
Speaker 2: I know for certain. Came into the world in the
Speaker 2: moneyed class. Okay, and I know that for sure. And
Speaker 2: those people that I've known in the Northeast, not a
Speaker 2: damn one of them would come close to that story
Speaker 2: you told. Not one of them would come close to
Speaker 2: being motivated enough to even seek out a business opportunity.
Speaker 3: Okay. They might take the reins of Dad's company when
Speaker 3: he dies, maybe or maybe not. But that's it. That's
Speaker 3: all they will ever do. And dumber than box of
Speaker 3: rocks is a good way to go as far as
Speaker 3: and I don't care what college degree they had.
Speaker 2: They're idiots, Okay, they clearly their degree as well, because
Speaker 2: they know nothing, and I mean they know nothing about
Speaker 2: the world around them. They know nothing about you know,
Speaker 2: they look at you surprised that you can't just go
Speaker 2: ahead and do something that they can do. Like they
Speaker 2: literally think the whole world.
Speaker 3: Functions the same way that they do, you know.
Speaker 2: And maybe two of them were you know, like private
Speaker 2: jet whenever I want it money, But the other ones,
Speaker 2: you know, millionaires of the moment they were born, and
Speaker 2: today they're probably sitting on you know, one hundred million
Speaker 2: dollars apiece if they're still alive, because I don't even
Speaker 2: see long lifespans for these guys. The way that they
Speaker 2: behaved and everything else, that's all I ever saw. So
Speaker 2: I have a completely different interface with that class of
Speaker 2: people than you do.
Speaker 3: And I mean, for example, but Donald.
Speaker 4: I was part owner of the ball team for a
Speaker 4: couple of years.
Speaker 5: Some of the guys that I would meet at the
Speaker 5: winter meetings and things like that, These guys, the best
Speaker 5: salesman in the world I have ever met, worked for.
Speaker 4: A sports franchise.
Speaker 5: Okay, they're not the guys out there, you know, making
Speaker 5: a million dollar selling cars or selling widgets. They're in
Speaker 5: a sports position where promote. I mean, the hardest thing
Speaker 5: I've ever had to do is sell season tickets to
Speaker 5: it for a team after a losing season. You know,
Speaker 5: nobody wants to Ah, yeah, they're in the basement. They've
Speaker 5: been in the basement a lot of't long waste my money.
Speaker 4: It's a hard sell.
Speaker 5: But some of the smartest salesmen I've ever met are
Speaker 5: all evaulved in sports because it's all show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I've never met anybody personally like on an
Speaker 2: Elon Musk level, obviously, but the people that I'm telling
Speaker 2: you couldn't possibly even low. All the money that they
Speaker 2: that they you know, end up with by the time
Speaker 2: they reach adulthood. I've only ever seen absolute morons with
Speaker 2: that money. And the thing is, they talk like they're stupid,
Speaker 2: They talk like children, and they are very much representative
Speaker 2: of what I see in Donald Trump. I wonder if
Speaker 2: it's my prejudice because I've only ever seen idiots.
Speaker 4: With money.
Speaker 3: Who could have never made it for themselves.
Speaker 5: Don't assume it does seem that way when you look
Speaker 5: at a lot of these big money guys, you know,
Speaker 5: how in the hell did they get there?
Speaker 4: Well, it was all trust fun. I mean, it's I
Speaker 4: don't know, you wonder what people do with their money.
Speaker 2: Sometimes, like Elon Musk is not as brilliant as he appears.
Speaker 2: I got bad news for everybody. And you know you
Speaker 2: can tell me he's on the spectrum and everything else.
Speaker 2: But again, he's another guy who started out with a
Speaker 2: serious advantage in life. Whatever, you know, I better not
Speaker 2: say anything too bad about Elon. His lawyers will come
Speaker 2: after me. I've already been warned on X by the
Speaker 2: way for criticizing him. To his account anyway, he's got
Speaker 2: lawyers on there. You know that Anyhow, the thing is,
Speaker 2: I have never personally interacted I would love to personally
Speaker 2: interact with somebody who's brilliant and also has a fortune.
Speaker 2: I would love to see that because I would feel like, well,
Speaker 2: at least there's some justice in this, you know, where
Speaker 2: like you actually earn something and keep it because like
Speaker 2: I didn't know the generation that created stuff, I never
Speaker 2: knew them personally. Maybe it's just me, Okay, fair enough,
Speaker 2: you know, Danny, have you ever encountered like wealthy?
Speaker 3: Wealthy?
Speaker 2: And I do mean wealth the people like not you know, okay,
Speaker 2: I've got you know, five million dollars, not like something
Speaker 2: that you could easily pull in a common state lottery. Okay,
Speaker 2: but I mean the kind of money where you know that,
Speaker 2: you know, this guy's grandchildren are still going to be
Speaker 2: spending what he was handed because, you know, unless they
Speaker 2: do something entirely stupid, I mean with the money itself,
Speaker 2: and they're usually protected by a team of people they
Speaker 2: hire to protect themselves from their own money.
Speaker 3: That's what I saw. But I mean.
Speaker 2: You might have had an experience like b Pete. Maybe
Speaker 2: again it's just me. But in the Northeast, I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: these guys talk like this very simple. They they don't
Speaker 2: you know, they couldn't if you ask them to cook
Speaker 2: for themselves, they couldn't do it. They wouldn't even begin
Speaker 2: to imagine how to do it.
Speaker 3: These people.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Danny, but tell me, I mean, is you are
Speaker 2: you more with be beat or with me on this
Speaker 2: go ahead? Or maybe it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 6: I would be I would say it's more of a
Speaker 6: mixed bag. I mean, I would say the majority of
Speaker 6: people that I grew up, you knew who was wealthy,
Speaker 6: wealthy families and yeah, I let me let me think. Okay,
Speaker 6: it was one that I mean they were really really
Speaker 6: wealthy and the two sons were.
Speaker 4: Yeah they they.
Speaker 6: Could be idiots, you know they they were. Dad was
Speaker 6: in control of it. But I did know some families
Speaker 6: supposedly I was connected with farming where I mean it's
Speaker 6: a mixed bath. Some of the wealthier families, the one
Speaker 6: that like the father that built it all, or the
Speaker 6: grandfather and father built it all when he got down
Speaker 6: to the grandchildren, Yeah, sometimes they didn't want how to
Speaker 6: really run the run the ranch. You know, it was different.
Speaker 6: They were dealing with a different economy and they didn't
Speaker 6: have the smarts to keep it going because they could.
Speaker 6: They felt they could still spend and go. My brother
Speaker 6: went to college, and the school he went to he
Speaker 6: got connected. He somehow he got into fraternity that was
Speaker 6: quite well with a lot of wealthy people. And he
Speaker 6: told me, he go, there's people here. They have no
Speaker 6: clue what it is to not have money. I mean,
Speaker 6: they were just every holiday, every weekend. It was like,
Speaker 6: We're going to go on this elaborate trip. And my
Speaker 6: brother had explained, I don't have that kind of cash,
Speaker 6: you know, and they were kind of dumbfounded him, and
Speaker 6: they didn't seem to appreciate. I seen more smarter people,
Speaker 6: especially the real wealthy people. I mean some of them
Speaker 6: had trust funds. But I think the thing with Trump
Speaker 6: that his real gift is he's just gonna have been
Speaker 6: good at self marketing himself and he's and he's just
Speaker 6: had a big enough ego to to push a push
Speaker 6: through even though they can't. You know, I like, I'm
Speaker 6: deeping and listen.
Speaker 4: To them talk.
Speaker 6: But I'm more bothered by his policies. But yeah, I
Speaker 6: I've seen some of the sharpest people that you know,
Speaker 6: had had to work, you know, that had to push themselves.
Speaker 3: Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 6: And I also thought some of the wealthy people had it.
Speaker 6: They almost had a two tier standard. It was kind
Speaker 6: of like they were above it, kind of like you know, hey,
Speaker 6: my my crap tastes like ice cream, and I'll eat
Speaker 6: a pound of in front of you just to prove it,
Speaker 6: you know. I mean I saw people like that at
Speaker 6: that kind of attitudes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in that sense, the majority of the wealthy people
Speaker 5: I have met have been that way.
Speaker 4: They think they're better than anybody else.
Speaker 2: Fine, oh yeah, okay, fine with the privilege. But here's
Speaker 2: the here's the other question about this. Because you're you're
Speaker 2: nuanced a little different than BPE. So I want to
Speaker 2: get hold of what your experience is because I want
Speaker 2: to make sure that we're talking about the same thing.
Speaker 3: Okay, because okay, you know, in the case of.
Speaker 2: Trump, he has this ability to convince people that he
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing even when he doesn't, which is fine, Fine,
Speaker 2: I get it, and that is part.
Speaker 3: Of what goes on. But you see, if you hand
Speaker 3: that same ability. Okay, remember that movie this.
Speaker 2: Is and I hate to use a movie to do this,
Speaker 2: but it is the best I got because I've never
Speaker 2: seen one of these guys like you know, end up
Speaker 2: trading places and end up you know, homeless.
Speaker 3: Okay, I've never I've never seen. But but forget about you.
Speaker 3: Yeah you knew, you knew it was coming, but I
Speaker 3: got a I got a weirder deep cut for you.
Speaker 3: I've never seen that happen. But remember mel Brooks.
Speaker 2: Did a movie called Like Life Stinks, where you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a billionaire, right, and he's competing with this other
Speaker 2: billionaire and they're you know, going at each other.
Speaker 3: And this is years ago. I don't know what year
Speaker 3: it's from VPT.
Speaker 2: If you want to look up mel Brooks Life Stakes
Speaker 2: and get some details, go ahead, because I think this
Speaker 2: is super interesting. And mel Brooks is in the movie
Speaker 2: and he's you know, the main character, and he winds
Speaker 2: up sleeping on a cardboard box that was meant to
Speaker 2: hold Pepto Bismo and it ends up putting an imprint
Speaker 2: on his forehead and it calls him Pepto. The other
Speaker 2: homeless people start calling him Pepto. Now he's a billionaire
Speaker 2: and they tell him, look, we're going to take away
Speaker 2: your money, your wallet, your access to everything, you know,
Speaker 2: your I don't know if they had a cell phone then,
Speaker 2: but if they had one, they would.
Speaker 3: Have taken it.
Speaker 2: We're going to take away everything except the clothes on
Speaker 2: your back and send you into the streets, and if
Speaker 2: you can survive X amount of time, then I'll give
Speaker 2: you all of my companies and my billions. But if
Speaker 2: you can't, I get your billions right, We're going to
Speaker 2: have a winner take all thing here. And mel Brooks
Speaker 2: does this and ends up in the streets with you know,
Speaker 2: homeless people, and he was a billionaire, and you watch
Speaker 2: him go through there. Obviously they make it, you know,
Speaker 2: it's a it's meant to be comedic. So but the
Speaker 2: point is you watch this journey from a guy who
Speaker 2: has no clue what he just you know, decided to
Speaker 2: go do okay and all that, and then he eventually
Speaker 2: gets to a different point here and understands things a
Speaker 2: little differently and winds up I think, even taking the crazy,
Speaker 2: screaming homeless lady home to be his wife.
Speaker 4: But nineteen ninety one that's when it came out, Thank you.
Speaker 2: Okay, so that is not the most popular mel Brooks movie,
Speaker 2: but to me, that's hilarious, you know. And another one
Speaker 2: of these like you know, see how you feel about
Speaker 2: it until you try it. Deal is, Brewster's Millions is
Speaker 2: another good one, Right, I was.
Speaker 4: Gonna say, I remember Brewster's Millions. This one with mel Brooks.
Speaker 5: It had a thirteen million dollar budget and it only
Speaker 5: pulled in four point one at the box office.
Speaker 3: There you go. So it's a failed mel Brooks movie.
Speaker 3: But I loved it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you, I don't care what anybody paid
Speaker 2: for it or anything else. I thought it was great,
Speaker 2: not because it was you know, super spectacular sophisticated, but
Speaker 2: the premise was like, yeah, what would happen? And the
Speaker 2: reason why I had that attitude about that? And apparently
Speaker 2: maybe it's just, you know, maybe I just fell into
Speaker 2: some rare groove, or maybe the Northeast just produces people
Speaker 2: that suck, which you know, again would be another explanation
Speaker 2: for my declining audience.
Speaker 3: Why not, I can't help myself.
Speaker 2: But either way, I've never seen like second third generation
Speaker 2: rich guy who was not dumb as hell, and dumb
Speaker 2: as hell people are impressive to people that are even dumber.
Speaker 3: And you got to admit that we have look in order.
Speaker 2: To understand forget about IQ, but actual intelligence measurements which
Speaker 2: go beyond.
Speaker 3: IQ in our population.
Speaker 2: In order to have a top of the population on
Speaker 2: the IQ scale, you got to have a lower one.
Speaker 2: And there's even this concept at one point where they
Speaker 2: literally sent, you know, literally intentionally sent the dumbest people
Speaker 2: into Vietnam, Okay to see what would happen. And some
Speaker 2: people say that's why we lost the war. I don't
Speaker 2: agree with that, but we did lose battles quite a
Speaker 2: bit for a while when they sent, yeah, people that
Speaker 2: were intentionally not intelligent into the field. And in fact,
Speaker 2: I think that's when they just take a look at it.
Speaker 2: Some people refer to it as McNamara's morons. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2: It is a thing that happened. And then they instituted
Speaker 2: in the military, We're not taking you if your IQ
Speaker 2: is so low, I forget.
Speaker 4: What it is.
Speaker 3: They set like you have to have like at least
Speaker 3: an IQ of eighty or something like that. I maybe BPTE.
Speaker 3: Do you know what that?
Speaker 2: Does this sound familiar to you, that like you had
Speaker 2: to not be below a certain IQ in order to
Speaker 2: be a volunteer or even drafted. Apparently, isn't that true
Speaker 2: that they just kind of like kick you if you're
Speaker 2: below a certain IQ.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I know, I don't think that was in effect when
Speaker 5: I was in because we had some people that were
Speaker 5: dumb as rocks.
Speaker 2: But sadly, I think it might have been Tree, it
Speaker 2: might have been BEP. Let me say, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: take a look. I'm gonna pull out my keyboard and
Speaker 2: ask the search engines.
Speaker 4: Well, it says, I don't know. It's confusing here. It
Speaker 4: says the.
Speaker 5: Military does not have a specific IQ requirement for enlistment. Instead,
Speaker 5: you have to pass the ASTHA test, which is, you know,
Speaker 5: a series of different sections that you've got to pass.
Speaker 5: And it says there's somebody else's asking about an IQ
Speaker 5: of eighty three?
Speaker 4: Is that the cutoff? So I'm not finding much on it.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm just checking here.
Speaker 2: Let's see, for US military enlistment, an individual's cognitive ability
Speaker 2: is not measured by an.
Speaker 3: IQ test, but by a subset of Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's your as BAB right, the Arm Services Vocational
Speaker 2: Aptitude Battery.
Speaker 3: That's as BAB right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Because the majority of jobs that they're filling, they
Speaker 5: don't need somebody with a PhD to you know, be
Speaker 5: a mechanic or a cook or a you know, an
Speaker 5: infantry member.
Speaker 4: If you can take orders and follow orders, that's the
Speaker 4: only thing to care about.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing about that test a disqualifying. The
Speaker 2: score on this test is typically below the tenth percent tile,
Speaker 2: which historically has been correlated with an IQ of around
Speaker 2: eighty three or lower. So instead of instituting an IQ test,
Speaker 2: which I argue is biased for various reasons, and it's
Speaker 2: not racial, so don't get on me. It's biased for
Speaker 2: a couple of different reasons.
Speaker 3: Okay. And I can tell you, as a visually.
Speaker 2: Impaired person, if you enlarge the test, you get a
Speaker 2: different score out of me. But anyway, and some people
Speaker 2: would say that's not fair, but then again, I'm still
Speaker 2: working with ten percent vision and only doubling the size
Speaker 2: of the test.
Speaker 3: So tell with you anyway.
Speaker 4: You never taken the ASVAM.
Speaker 3: I took something similar to it. I did take a
Speaker 3: military based test, but I don't think it was exactly that.
Speaker 3: It was some kind of it had batter Was there.
Speaker 5: A section where was there a section where they showed
Speaker 5: you an object like a cube or a cone or
Speaker 5: a a hex or like a Rubi's cube, and then
Speaker 5: they had four patterns of like if you took a card.
Speaker 5: Let's let's say if you took a Rubi's cube, okay,
Speaker 5: and each.
Speaker 4: Side was the flap on a box. Oh you flattened
Speaker 4: it out flat? Yeah? Yeah, did they have a section
Speaker 4: like that on it where you had to pick the
Speaker 4: right one?
Speaker 3: Indeed, it did well.
Speaker 4: Then you probably took the aspect test.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I did not think that's what it was, but it
Speaker 2: might have been given to me in an unofficial capacity, uh,
Speaker 2: because I took a battery of various tests.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I was given that.
Speaker 2: But I was also given standard IQ test, age appropriate
Speaker 2: this and that, and yeah, they tested me a bunch
Speaker 2: of different ways. It was weird when I was younger
Speaker 2: because they thought I had cheated on the IQ.
Speaker 3: Test, which was it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hated those IQ tests or like the SATs
Speaker 5: and crap like that, because I would like this one test.
Speaker 5: I remember how many layers in a seven layer cake? Okay,
Speaker 5: but the picture that they show you of the cake
Speaker 5: with the slice cut out is frosted, and it's frosted
Speaker 5: between every layer. So I'd have to stop test glass
Speaker 5: and say, what the hell are they looking for. Here,
Speaker 5: it's a seven layer cake. If you count the frosting,
Speaker 5: it's fourteen fucking layers.
Speaker 4: What do you want?
Speaker 5: Fourteen isn't an answer. Well, just find the answer that
Speaker 5: best represents what you think is correct. Okay, Yeah, put
Speaker 5: the pencil down and walk out.
Speaker 2: This is the point at which I would just write
Speaker 2: in my own answers and I would say screw your rules,
Speaker 2: and stuff like that happened because they would give me
Speaker 2: stuff that I knew was incorrect. That was a test
Speaker 2: at one point, and I don't know what I scored
Speaker 2: on that, but the battery of tests proved I didn't
Speaker 2: cheat on the IQ test, which was the weird contention.
Speaker 3: No, there's no way because you know they didn't understand.
Speaker 5: Well, now, that's like it's like a lot of these
Speaker 5: state certification tests that you go and take.
Speaker 4: Oh, you got to take the test, but there's no
Speaker 4: trick questions.
Speaker 5: And I banged them on one and they had to
Speaker 5: change the test I was giving. It was a Rosa
Speaker 5: control relading and the office that I was in I
Speaker 5: was getting ready to leave, but they wanted all their
Speaker 5: guys qualified on this state test. So I went in
Speaker 5: and tutored them on the test, and while we were
Speaker 5: actually taking the test, I had the group break down
Speaker 5: and we answered that one question that I knew was
Speaker 5: a trick question with one each of the four different answers,
Speaker 5: and all four of the groups came back saying you
Speaker 5: got the question wrong, so we documented that, sent it
Speaker 5: in they changed the test.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's there's no trick questions, all right, my trick.
Speaker 3: Question exactly, Danny.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna put you on hold because I just caught
Speaker 2: the Jimmy James over the line and I want to
Speaker 2: put him on while we have a few minutes left.
Speaker 3: Hang on, so we'll try and get Jimmy in.
Speaker 2: I saw you before, Jimmy, and then you were gone,
Speaker 2: so I don't know what happened, and I hope I
Speaker 2: didn't keep you on hold long. I'm sorry if I did.
Speaker 2: But anyway, anything you want to add to this discussion,
Speaker 2: or you want to bring something else up, it's all you.
Speaker 8: A little late, Pete, did you say as some paint
Speaker 8: question for me or something?
Speaker 3: Oh last week?
Speaker 5: He was at well, yeah, I'm still looking at your
Speaker 5: question from last week. I've not had a lot of
Speaker 5: time to get into it, and I'm falling down a
Speaker 5: rabbit hole. But I did want to congratulate your Detroit
Speaker 5: Lions on their game last week.
Speaker 4: That was an excellent game.
Speaker 3: Okay, so he still needs more time on answering your
Speaker 3: JFK questions.
Speaker 9: Jimmy, Sorry, well yeah, all right, yeah, but BP does
Speaker 9: against the Bears, so I don't even count that game.
Speaker 10: They might as well.
Speaker 8: They might as well have been playing little kids, don't
Speaker 8: don't They got ways to go before they proved squad
Speaker 8: to me as far as the FKA, now where we
Speaker 8: left it go off? As you say, if you thought
Speaker 8: that Task Force well, members of Test Force W were
Speaker 8: there causing diversions.
Speaker 10: And that's kind of where we cut it off, which
Speaker 10: I would say, yeah, I mean absolutely, I could see
Speaker 10: half the squad doing exactly that.
Speaker 8: Where's the other half?
Speaker 10: You know as well as I do any spot. It's
Speaker 10: got eight members, and this is a team, so I
Speaker 10: would assume ten.
Speaker 8: What do you think the other character's doing.
Speaker 10: I'm guessing badding and quite frankly incentivizing what I will
Speaker 10: call quote unquote volunteers to complete their part.
Speaker 3: Very interesting, MVP. You're still there, Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 5: In fact, I was looking at one of the bookmarks
Speaker 5: for that I need to go in and read to
Speaker 5: see if I can answer you.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna agree with with Jimmy. I mean, and we
Speaker 4: covered this last time.
Speaker 5: You know, so and so said they were there, and
Speaker 5: so and so said they were there, and this group
Speaker 5: said they were there, and these people said they were there,
Speaker 5: so they were probably definitely there. And I remember saying, well, yeah,
Speaker 5: were they there for a reason or were they there
Speaker 5: so that it can divert attention away from something else?
Speaker 5: And I think that's where we ended that discussion. But
Speaker 5: I like, right now I've got this the history up
Speaker 5: there at Spartacus about Task Force W.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's this is something that I never looked into.
Speaker 5: Much like I said, I was always in the photographic
Speaker 5: end of it, not the the data, the documents and
Speaker 5: all the dirty works of the CIA.
Speaker 4: I mean, hell, you bear yourself trying to follow all that.
Speaker 3: Right, right, Actually, I'm looking forward to right, go ahead.
Speaker 8: Well, a couple of weeks ago, did you guys, let
Speaker 8: me guess, neither one of you watched The cubean five
Speaker 8: nor the Umbrella Man?
Speaker 3: Did you? Well?
Speaker 2: I couldn't find Umbrella Man that worked for me because
Speaker 2: I went to one of the places that I thought
Speaker 2: would stream it, and it didn't stream it for me.
Speaker 2: It kept telling me this video is not available, so
Speaker 2: I don't know if I need to find another place
Speaker 2: to get it.
Speaker 3: To be too be to b B, Yeah, I think
Speaker 3: I try. All right, I will retry to be but
Speaker 3: that that's the Umbrella Man's on t B right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you right now the title is.
Speaker 8: You know, it's a pulse.
Speaker 4: Us.
Speaker 8: This movie has nothing to do with the Umbrella Man.
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's mislead.
Speaker 8: I want you to watch. I want you to watch
Speaker 8: this film. It's a propaganda film and if it stays
Speaker 8: around and no addresses it, people's minds are gonna get
Speaker 8: worked by it. I want to be aware of it.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I'll do my best.
Speaker 4: It's on to B. I can watch it tomorrow.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Well look VP, if you get it working, send me
Speaker 2: the proper link if you can, because I could not
Speaker 2: get the Umbrella Man movie to work because I went
Speaker 2: back to IMDb and I made sure I didn't go
Speaker 2: back to the Errol Morris thing and everything else.
Speaker 3: And I tried to click like you can watch it
Speaker 3: on TV. So I clicked that and tried to sign
Speaker 3: into TV and get it and it told me the
Speaker 3: video is unavailable.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what that means. Maybe I just
Speaker 2: had the wrong thing. But if you got a link,
Speaker 2: send it to me, Okay, because I'll see.
Speaker 5: I got TV on my TV on my streaming box.
Speaker 5: I'll tomorrow morning, I'll get up and see if I
Speaker 5: can pull it up.
Speaker 3: There you go. I'm also looking forward to Jimmy and
Speaker 3: you can't find.
Speaker 4: It down there.
Speaker 8: Look at YouTube. Almost anything that's on these streaming channels
Speaker 8: originates from boob tube.
Speaker 2: Really Okay, Well, I'm gonna quick look in YouTube right
Speaker 2: now because I have it open and just see if
Speaker 2: you know, maybe there's a version of it right on YouTube,
Speaker 2: because if there is, I'll go there.
Speaker 3: I'll put up with the eighty commercials or whatever. Let's
Speaker 3: see royalty free images.
Speaker 2: Who was the umbrella man JFK to dotor Mensory The
Speaker 2: New York Times, blah blah, Okay, watchful the mystery of
Speaker 2: the Umbrella Man at JFK's assassination That is on grunge.
Speaker 3: Let's see. Yeah, I'm gonna have.
Speaker 2: To compare it and make sure I got the right one,
Speaker 2: because these things are all probably misleading.
Speaker 4: Thumbnails I'd look at u too.
Speaker 5: But right now, I'm in the middle of the Virginia
Speaker 5: Florida State game, and Virginia is up, by the way,
Speaker 5: thirty five to twenty eight and the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, Jimmy, you will want to read the white
Speaker 2: paper that Larry and David Boylin are coming up with
Speaker 2: as an addendum to the Oswald thing, by the way,
Speaker 2: because this is gonna be really fascinating, and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be you know, who actually showed interest in Oswald? Like
Speaker 2: who we can prove showed interest in Oswald now without
Speaker 2: a doubt. And I think there's gonna be more interesting stuff.
Speaker 8: And I got an interesting Hey is are the other
Speaker 8: shows on? Are we running over on them?
Speaker 3: Uh? We're probably about to let me see. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: I am actually, so I gotta get going and uh
Speaker 2: but go ahead and throw in the final word and
Speaker 2: I'll get to erin as soon as I can.
Speaker 8: What were you just saying, you said, Larry, And oh yeah,
Speaker 8: that whole Uh well, I pray to God they're wrong,
Speaker 8: because if the people they say are involved, we're involved,
Speaker 8: then God help us all we've got a little big problem.
Speaker 2: All there.
Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, define get it and that's sorry. It's there,
Speaker 8: my friend, you dig.
Speaker 3: Listen, I hear you. And here's the problem.
Speaker 2: I haven't read it yet, so I don't know what's
Speaker 2: in it, but from what Larry said to me privately,
Speaker 2: he's gonna piss off a lot of researchers, so well scared.
Speaker 8: I'm honestly scared of what he's gonna say. I mean,
Speaker 8: God help us off.
Speaker 2: Is pretty much.
Speaker 8: Look if they end up saying, look, we think it
Speaker 8: was Phillips and we think it was Well Harvey, and
Speaker 8: we think it was Joe and Edy's and they patrolling Osbald,
Speaker 8: that's a big damn problem, A big, big, big damn problem.
Speaker 3: Yes it is.
Speaker 8: Joe Edy's in particular was a fault. All I can
Speaker 8: say is, yeah, I'm excited and yet petrified.
Speaker 2: Uh, Jimmy, for once, you and I are in alignment,
Speaker 2: because yeah, and I just now received a copy. So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a look at the almost finished draft
Speaker 2: and I don't know what I'm going to do with
Speaker 2: it after that, because I'm not going to reveal it
Speaker 2: ahead of when Larry decides to publish it wherever it
Speaker 2: gets published or God help us all if it turns
Speaker 2: into a book again, because remember the whole Oswald Pieces
Speaker 2: Oswald Puzzle book was only meant to be a paper
Speaker 2: and ended up becoming a book. So and he said
Speaker 2: that he's had to revise a couple of things since
Speaker 2: then because of a couple of new releases, and here
Speaker 2: it goes again, so you know, but look, this is
Speaker 2: the evolution of things.
Speaker 3: Anyway, Jimmy, I thank you for calling in.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you called in earlier and you hung up,
Speaker 2: so I was hoping to get to you earlier and
Speaker 2: then I didn't see it, and that's my fault, and
Speaker 2: I apologize. I want to quickly say goodbye to Danny
Speaker 2: if I can before we close, and give him a
Speaker 2: chance to give like a final thought.
Speaker 6: Well good night, everybody, wish you well, and hey, keep
Speaker 6: up the good work. I liked the analysis on the news.
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to give you some feedback and enjoy it,
Speaker 6: appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Danny.
Speaker 2: I appreciate you and really appreciate the feedback especially, so
Speaker 2: thank you again, and be Pete, go ahead and give
Speaker 2: us a final word and I'll just play the closing
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