WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.040 --> 00:00:18.519 The Force will be with you always. 2 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:23.120 Hello. Let's welcome back to another episode of Star Wars 3 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:27.039 Alliance your home on Geek Ultimate Alliance Podcast Network, and 4 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:30.600 I'll thanks Star Wars. I'm your host as always, Katie, 5 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:34.439 and with me as per usual. It's Clay. Clay. How 6 00:00:34.439 --> 00:00:35.240 are you doing today? 7 00:00:36.000 --> 00:00:41.200 I am actually doing pretty good. I see a very 8 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:48.880 long night in my future and probably not sleeping, so 9 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:54.759 I have to first edit this. I'm gonna edit this, 10 00:00:55.039 --> 00:01:00.320 oh yeah yeah, But immediately after I have to do 11 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:05.439 something for Volume Comics that I have been kind of 12 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:10.200 procrastinating on and I want to get it done before 13 00:01:10.239 --> 00:01:12.159 the weekend. I want to get it done before the 14 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.799 weekend because this Saturday, I'm gonna be at Chicago Comic Con, 15 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:19.599 so I don't have any time to really do anything 16 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:23.239 on the weekend, and I asked off for both Saturday 17 00:01:23.280 --> 00:01:26.680 and Sunday. Sunday, I am literally just like staying in bed, 18 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.400 like I am. I know I'm gonna do a lot 19 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:31.959 of walking on Saturday, so I'm just gonna be like, hey, 20 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:34.159 I'm just gonna be in bed. I'm not gonna do anything. 21 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:36.159 Probably look at my phone every once in a while, 22 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:41.920 so in order to kind of prep for Chicago. I 23 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:43.840 want to get as much done as I possibly can. 24 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:46.719 So I have one project that I need to do 25 00:01:47.280 --> 00:01:53.519 immediately after I finish editing this episode, and then after 26 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.000 I'm done with that, I have to prep our kitchen 27 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:03.359 for more maintenance people to come into the kitchen again. 28 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:09.960 Because Abby is still seeing water underneath the sink that 29 00:02:10.199 --> 00:02:15.479 is not coming from our pipe. So I don't know, 30 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:20.639 your whole kitchen torn apart. I don't know, and it's scary. 31 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:25.719 So I have to prep the kitchen, clean out the sink, uh, 32 00:02:25.879 --> 00:02:27.879 you know, do everything that I can to make it 33 00:02:27.919 --> 00:02:31.240 all nice and actually like manageable for a maintenance guy 34 00:02:31.280 --> 00:02:33.560 to come in and like look at it. So I 35 00:02:33.560 --> 00:02:37.560 have to do all of that, and then guys, remember 36 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:40.639 the morning, and then I have to go at three 37 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:45.599 am in the morning, exactly. I am somebody with ADHD. 38 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.599 Let me just let me like this is so disgusting 39 00:02:49.680 --> 00:02:56.240 and embarrassing. I'm just going to quick photo. This is 40 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:59.960 right next to me. There's just bottles and bottles of 41 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:04.360 bottles and cans and bottles and bottles and bottles. That's 42 00:03:04.439 --> 00:03:08.639 kind of all over the house. But there's it's it's 43 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:14.360 in stations. So Abby's like, that's claystation one, station two, 44 00:03:14.919 --> 00:03:17.319 and it's finally gotten to a point where Abby's like 45 00:03:17.879 --> 00:03:22.039 clean it now, and I'm like, got it. So I'm 46 00:03:22.080 --> 00:03:25.479 doing that tonight as well. So I'm doing all of that, 47 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:29.919 and then if I attempt to go to sleep after that, 48 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:34.199 I'm sleeping through every single alarm. So I'm just going 49 00:03:34.240 --> 00:03:39.240 to stay up, take a shower. Thankfully, the coworker that 50 00:03:39.400 --> 00:03:43.199 I stream after at work, he is not coming in tonight, 51 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:45.840 so I'm going to go in early. 52 00:03:46.840 --> 00:03:50.479 Oh okay, so you're gonna start yes, so hopefully you 53 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.479 could get off a little earlier. 54 00:03:52.800 --> 00:03:56.800 Yes, But also if I wanted to stay because I 55 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.960 asked off on Saturday, I can still get my hours. 56 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:01.840 Yeah, so that makes sense. 57 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:06.080 I'm just gonna be zoom zoom zoom, zoom, zoom zoom zoom. Yeah. 58 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:11.039 So I have been drinking a lot of water. Yes, 59 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:13.560 I have been drinking a lot of water. But also 60 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:19.639 I think it was actually Brent who reminded me that 61 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:23.759 these are a thing we've been talking about, like what 62 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:26.839 the release schedule of Daredevil would be like, Uh, they 63 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:30.519 just released it like literally a couple hours before it 64 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:34.399 was releasing yesterday. So we were like, oh, crap, is 65 00:04:34.439 --> 00:04:36.199 it all gonna drop it once? What's gonna happen? Blah 66 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:39.120 blah blah, And Britt was like, well, if two or 67 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:41.519 three episodes drop it once, I guess I'm just gonna 68 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:44.879 take caffeine pills. And I'm like, I have caffeine pills. 69 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:48.560 I forgot I have these. I could just use those 70 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:51.040 instead of like going out for soda and energy drinks 71 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.279 and all this other stuff. And I can still drink water, 72 00:04:53.720 --> 00:04:57.759 so I might be like just packing that into my 73 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:00.279 backpack for work from now on if I have need 74 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:04.199 to do this again. But I'm not gonna make it 75 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:06.240 a habit, because I did at one point make it 76 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:08.439 a habit when we were watching stuff at like two 77 00:05:08.480 --> 00:05:12.720 am for Star Wars Alliance and stuff, and uh, those 78 00:05:12.720 --> 00:05:16.240 were crazy days and the only reason why I was 79 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:19.639 doing it because of course Amberlin was an infant and 80 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.439 I was already needed this stay up for her anyway. 81 00:05:22.680 --> 00:05:28.759 So yeah, it's it's it's today, today, today, slash tomorrow 82 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:33.040 is gonna be a little crazy, and I. 83 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.800 Just felt trauma life update. 84 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:42.079 I know, I know that I'm just going to crash 85 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:44.519 when I get home, which is going to be for 86 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:48.199 the best. So I think the last time I did 87 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:51.600 and ready to go for Saturday. Yeah, the the literal 88 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:55.439 last time I did this, I came home and I 89 00:05:55.480 --> 00:05:59.920 literally slept for like five hours. So yeah, that that's 90 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.600 that's how that's how my day is going to be 91 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:06.680 going and how it is going. But guys, this is 92 00:06:06.720 --> 00:06:13.160 not just a therapeutic podcast. This is a Star Wars podcast. 93 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:17.040 And we kind of looked and scoured through some stuff. 94 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:22.519 There's not really any news out there in big updates. 95 00:06:22.839 --> 00:06:28.360 There was one new I think short TV spot somewhere 96 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.079 for Mandalorian gro whu. Yeah. 97 00:06:30.480 --> 00:06:33.720 I haven't been watching those, mainly because I'm not really 98 00:06:33.720 --> 00:06:35.439 present on social media anymore. 99 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:36.240 Yeah. 100 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:40.959 Plus I'm kind of done with the trailers. Yeah, like 101 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:42.240 another big one comes out. 102 00:06:42.399 --> 00:06:45.399 Unless there's a really big one, then I will go 103 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:47.759 ahead and watch it. Otherwise, I think I'm done with 104 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:49.439 it also, and I'm kind of just wanted to be 105 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:53.600 surprised in the theater. One thing I will say though, 106 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:56.399 that I did not know was a thing until I 107 00:06:56.480 --> 00:07:03.079 was looking for news for today. Apparently there is a 108 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:06.759 contest for the Mandalorian Grogu premiere. 109 00:07:08.199 --> 00:07:10.560 Yes, I saw that for Disney Plus perks. 110 00:07:10.240 --> 00:07:15.399 Yes, for Disney Plus perks Disney Plus subscribers, excuse me. 111 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:20.160 You can submit an entry once per day all the 112 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:25.040 way up until April sixteenth. And I was like, yeah, 113 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.000 I don't know how like long this has been going 114 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:32.160 on already, so I'm probably like way behind if I even. 115 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:34.279 I think for those you still have to pay for, 116 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:36.079 like your flight and stuff. 117 00:07:36.000 --> 00:07:39.759 This one actually says that everything is included. Oh okay, 118 00:07:39.800 --> 00:07:44.720 then I might which is really which really surprising for 119 00:07:44.839 --> 00:07:47.920 Disney to do. Yeah, and I can double check it 120 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:53.800 was Star Wars News Net that did it. Yeah, right here, 121 00:07:53.839 --> 00:08:00.079 So the premiere it says right here, the trip in 122 00:08:00.079 --> 00:08:05.319 cludes hotel, airfoil round trip transport to the hotel, any 123 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:12.560 one hundred dollars cash or cash equivalent. So I'm assuming 124 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:16.240 that the one hundred dollars cash would probably be for food, 125 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:23.439 your your per diem basically. Yeah. So I think that's 126 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:25.800 pretty cool that they're willing to do that kind of thing. 127 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.720 I might have on it just for kicks and giggles 128 00:08:29.759 --> 00:08:37.159 and see what happens. So the other bigger piece of 129 00:08:37.240 --> 00:08:42.240 news that I would say is the the AI. The 130 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:48.759 open AI generator guy a guy the ai Open Ai. 131 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:51.159 Yes, open ai is a. 132 00:08:52.399 --> 00:09:00.279 Video generator tool. Sora is shutting down, and with that, 133 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:06.679 Disney has completely dropped out of their contract to out 134 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:08.440 of produce AI things. 135 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:12.559 Out of their contract with open Ai. Apparently, they did 136 00:09:12.600 --> 00:09:15.120 come out with a statement saying that they will look 137 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:21.399 for other means of AI that respect the content and 138 00:09:21.440 --> 00:09:26.840 the creators behind it. That's kind of an oxymoron, but 139 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:29.440 I'm not entirely sure how that's gonna work. 140 00:09:29.639 --> 00:09:33.720 You know, well because looking at the Moana live action trailer, 141 00:09:34.360 --> 00:09:36.519 that thing looks AI as crap. 142 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:39.080 Just saying. 143 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.200 We'll leave it at that, but we're super happy by 144 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:49.080 the zews. Less AI is good AI. 145 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:53.559 Yeah, no, no, no, I think this is this is 146 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:58.879 a huge win. It has been I think since December 147 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.759 that we have just been seeing loss after loss after 148 00:10:03.840 --> 00:10:09.320 loss after loss on open ais front. And I hope 149 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:15.360 it's just like the beginning. Yeah, because we have seen 150 00:10:16.039 --> 00:10:20.080 that even in small towns, like people who actually fight 151 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:26.519 for their town are getting data centers completely canceled, which 152 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:30.480 I think is really really cool. And like. 153 00:10:32.279 --> 00:10:35.639 What yeah, like my biggest issue with it is in 154 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:41.440 this generation, uh like creative generation, I have to use 155 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:45.639 it for work now, so I. 156 00:10:45.440 --> 00:10:49.720 So this is something that me as like I've had 157 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:55.559 a moral dilemma recently for myself. I now own a 158 00:10:55.600 --> 00:10:59.440 business and I am wanting to create a website and 159 00:10:59.519 --> 00:11:08.200 an app. AI used in a proper sense for technoya 160 00:11:09.039 --> 00:11:14.159 and building. I have now since learned asking somebody to 161 00:11:14.480 --> 00:11:19.120 build a website or an app without using AI is like. 162 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:20.679 Basically non existent right. 163 00:11:20.600 --> 00:11:25.240 Now, basically non existent currently right now, I've had a 164 00:11:25.240 --> 00:11:26.919 lot of people laugh at me, a lot of people 165 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:31.120 say hey, good luck. And it has been a huge 166 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:36.840 like learning experience of saying, hey, as long as AI 167 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:40.679 is not touching the content of which I am actually 168 00:11:40.720 --> 00:11:53.480 putting on my website, that is okay. I have always, 169 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:59.159 since starting this business, have had the idea of no 170 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:06.679 AI is AI excuse me, and with the idea of 171 00:12:07.440 --> 00:12:12.159 somebody bigger doing the same kind of concept that I 172 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:16.759 am doing, but openly saying hey, we're using AI for everything. 173 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.240 It immediately like grinded my gears. I'm like, okay, this 174 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:24.840 is gonna motivate me anymore, Like even more, I'm not 175 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:29.480 gonna use AI for anything. And like I said, it's 176 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:34.240 been a huge struggle for people in tech to like 177 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:39.200 not embrace that. It makes things so much easier. Coding 178 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:42.279 is a lot easier. I've I've learned a little bit 179 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:45.879 of how like the coding is actually like you're able 180 00:12:45.919 --> 00:12:50.759 to use AI as like an assistant for like copying 181 00:12:50.799 --> 00:12:52.879 the code and like everything else and like doing all 182 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:54.960 of this other stuff. So I'm learning a little bit. 183 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:58.440 I can never do it myself, but I'm learning because 184 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.159 of the experience of me trying to get around it 185 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:05.600 for this specific use. When it comes to the content, 186 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:09.320 Like we said, one of the big reasons, one of 187 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:12.720 the big reasons why Disney is stepping away is because 188 00:13:12.879 --> 00:13:17.360 for the past like two months, there has been AI 189 00:13:17.559 --> 00:13:21.440 slop video after AI slop video of Star Wars characters, 190 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:26.840 of Marvel characters, and overall Disney characters all over the 191 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:33.399 internet right now. And they've thrown cease and desist letters 192 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:36.080 and everything else, but people still create them. People still 193 00:13:36.120 --> 00:13:39.240 go out of their way because you know, the internet 194 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:44.320 is free. And so by taking all of that and 195 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:49.720 saying hey, you can no longer use our ips and 196 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:55.559 rescinding that one billion dollar contract that's gonna hurt open 197 00:13:55.600 --> 00:13:57.840 AI a ton. 198 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:04.240 It makes me super happy about the content creation stuff. 199 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.759 Let's be clear, I don't want to get fired for 200 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:16.879 said AI related Yeah I think that about. 201 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.240 Covers, Yeah, I think so. And that does bring us 202 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:28.000 to our main topic, which is Star Wars hyperspace stories. 203 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:34.600 Grievous is our main topic of the day. The last 204 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:41.480 time we talked about one of these was uh correct. 205 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:43.879 And I'm gonna go ahead and start with my one 206 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:52.720 qualm of this story. In Qui gon Jin, there was 207 00:14:54.440 --> 00:15:00.200 like three separate stories that connected the over arching story. 208 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:07.440 I was anticipating that in this book. I was anticipating 209 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:15.840 because it says hyperspace stories plural. I was expecting there 210 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:21.360 to be multiple stories, like an anthology for Grievous, that 211 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:26.720 would connect to a grander story. This is just one story. 212 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:32.639 The story is good. That story is good. It like 213 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:39.840 it doesn't necessarily bridge a huge gap in anything Clone 214 00:15:39.840 --> 00:15:45.559 Wars related. Honestly, like if you watch all of Clone 215 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:49.639 Wars in Attack of the Clones, you're not thinking like, 216 00:15:50.120 --> 00:15:53.480 oh man, how did this happen? And like this fixes it. 217 00:15:54.279 --> 00:16:02.000 This is literally just a sidestep into the wars that 218 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:05.639 you know tells a little bit of a story on 219 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:11.440 Grievous and how he hunts quote unquote his Jedi. 220 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:17.399 So yeah, I felt like the story kind of takes 221 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:24.000 place early on in the Clone Wars where Grievous has 222 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:28.879 kind of been heard of, and I wanted that aspect 223 00:16:29.000 --> 00:16:31.559 of it. I wanted this to be an introduction to 224 00:16:32.360 --> 00:16:39.440 Grievous as a character, and it's not quite there. I 225 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:44.399 feel like it maybe was originally and then they were told, yeah, no, 226 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:46.840 you can't do that, and then so they had to 227 00:16:47.200 --> 00:16:51.559 move it along because at one point the Jedi Master 228 00:16:51.879 --> 00:16:58.799 involved in the story says, oh, I've I've heard of you, 229 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:02.279 but then he himself General Grievous and he got the 230 00:17:02.360 --> 00:17:05.759 Jedi Master goes, uh, oh, so you got a promotion. 231 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:11.079 Yeah. Yeah, that one was a little weird. That back 232 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:13.240 and forth was a little weird. I did clock that 233 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:15.640 this is. 234 00:17:17.119 --> 00:17:30.359 Master Bardiff. Shoot, dang it, go back. This comic Guys 235 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.799 is written by Well, while Clay finds that it's written 236 00:17:33.839 --> 00:17:40.559 by Michael Mareki, illustrated by Chow Felipe I totally butchered 237 00:17:40.559 --> 00:17:46.599 that colored by Dan Jackson, lettered by Comic Crafts Tyler 238 00:17:46.640 --> 00:17:51.039 Smith and Jimmy Bettencourt, and the cover art is by Michael. 239 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:55.839 Cho Cardiff Bay. 240 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:03.079 Cardiff Bee, Cardiff I think, is it Bake Hardiff? Oh no, 241 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:04.440 it is Cardiff By You're right. 242 00:18:04.680 --> 00:18:07.839 Okay, because he said because he said general Bay, so 243 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:09.640 I'm assuming that is his last name. 244 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:14.400 Yeah, he got called Cardiff by Kenobi at one point 245 00:18:14.440 --> 00:18:15.480 and I got confused. 246 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:24.319 But I really enjoy the art. I think, like when 247 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:29.519 you really look at it, I think the art really 248 00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:36.480 is appealing towards grievous. Yeah, and his stature in the 249 00:18:36.519 --> 00:18:41.000 book is menacing, like he is claimed to be a 250 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:46.240 beast in this book, which I really do like. And 251 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:52.839 like I said earlier, he hunts his Jedi. He really 252 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:58.079 does feel like like a Craven the Hunter or a 253 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:01.160 death stroke. Like he feels like an a Assen in 254 00:19:01.519 --> 00:19:05.359 this book, which I really do love. There's a really 255 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:09.920 cool panel in the very beginning where he is kind 256 00:19:09.920 --> 00:19:11.880 of in front of the moon. In front of the moon. 257 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:18.279 I love this panel, absolutely gorgeous. And then there's another 258 00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:24.279 panel where Bail is kind of looking or Bay not Bail, sorry, 259 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:29.559 Bey is looking into the forest because he has an inkling. 260 00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:33.319 He has like a feeling of something and like it 261 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:35.880 goes deeper into the forest and deeper and deeper and deeper, 262 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:38.160 and then you just see the Yellow Eyes of Grievous. 263 00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:44.160 That panel also was really really cool. But Katie, the 264 00:19:44.279 --> 00:19:50.039 overall story, how did you feel like. 265 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:52.240 This? 266 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:57.599 I know sounds harsh, and again I think every story 267 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:03.720 out there is going to have its fans, and I 268 00:20:03.759 --> 00:20:06.400 don't mean it to sound as harsh. But is this 269 00:20:06.519 --> 00:20:12.680 a story that was truly needed for both sides of 270 00:20:12.759 --> 00:20:15.559 let's say Grievous of course because of course this is 271 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:21.599 a Grievous title, or within the of Course Star Wars Mythos, 272 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:24.039 the Clone Wars timeline. 273 00:20:24.359 --> 00:20:28.400 I feel like if this so I approached this from 274 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:33.200 two different ways, The story as is, I feel like 275 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:43.279 needs more characterization for Grievous, because this feels like we're 276 00:20:43.359 --> 00:20:48.640 kind of getting a protagonist's view into Grievous instead of 277 00:20:48.880 --> 00:20:51.920 a story from the antagonist point of view, Whereas I 278 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:56.160 felt like the Qui gon Chin story handled it a 279 00:20:56.160 --> 00:20:58.960 little bit better in regards to Okay, we're having multiple 280 00:20:58.960 --> 00:21:02.559 people tell this story, but we're approaching it in the 281 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:07.279 right way by still getting that characterization of Qui kN Jit. So, 282 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:12.759 as is, the story needed more characterization. If this had 283 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:18.720 been an introduction to like Grievous's first introduction to the 284 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:23.400 galaxy as a whole. I would have said this was 285 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:27.640 a perfect story, but it's not. So those are my 286 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:32.720 two like bigger critiques is there's not enough characterizational Grievous 287 00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.200 for what the story is. This would have been a 288 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:40.599 better story if it was an introduction, if it was 289 00:21:40.640 --> 00:21:42.680 Grievous's introduction to the galaxy. 290 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:46.599 And this is, like I said, it's a quick read. 291 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:52.039 I want to say, like not counting it page for page, 292 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:57.680 this feels like maybe a fifty five sixty page book. 293 00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:03.200 It might be a little bigger, and you can on Wikipedia, 294 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.039 all right, there you go. I knew it was less 295 00:22:07.039 --> 00:22:14.599 than one hundred this story. I want to ask, do 296 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:24.480 you think we will ever get a before Android book 297 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:28.559 on Grievous? Like, uh, will we ever get the story 298 00:22:28.640 --> 00:22:32.319 of how he is created? 299 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:38.480 At this point? I don't think so. No, if this 300 00:22:38.680 --> 00:22:44.759 was not that story to tell who Grievous was. Okay, 301 00:22:45.839 --> 00:22:52.240 I don't picture expanding his story really because his story 302 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:58.079 that we know of is super short. Yes, so maybe 303 00:22:59.079 --> 00:23:02.519 maybe like a cameo kind of how like we've gotten 304 00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:07.960 like a Beers cameo in the Republic, you could maybe 305 00:23:08.079 --> 00:23:12.279 say that. I don't think otherwise. 306 00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:15.079 Okay, I can see that, yeah, because like even in 307 00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:18.920 the beginning when you have Dooku, he kind of explains 308 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.680 a little bit like, oh, previously you were this, like 309 00:23:22.680 --> 00:23:26.759 like he kind of hints at that story, but we 310 00:23:26.799 --> 00:23:33.559 are here, you know. Yeah, I I think you're right. 311 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:37.200 I think that if honestly, if they were going to 312 00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:41.559 put that story out there, it would have been around 313 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:46.640 the freaking twenty fifth anniversary of the character's death, you know. Yeah, 314 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:53.640 of episode three. What did you think about the character 315 00:23:54.240 --> 00:24:04.119 of Cardiff this uh seemingly air against Jedi possibly, like 316 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:09.799 the way he even explains himself is like he is 317 00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:15.119 kind of like an anakinesque character with kind of big head, 318 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:20.359 kind of show off the you know type of character. 319 00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:23.880 What did you think of him? Overall? 320 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:32.279 I enjoyed his character a lot because it was it 321 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:37.200 was super intriguing to see how he approached his faith 322 00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:44.079 as a concept versus like how Obi Wan and Anakin 323 00:24:44.240 --> 00:24:48.799 really approach the Jedi order. I feel like is he 324 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:56.640 kind of it felt like a more Christianity take, if 325 00:24:56.640 --> 00:24:59.599 that makes sense, because it was very much like a 326 00:25:01.480 --> 00:25:05.960 like believe like the best in people like I don't 327 00:25:05.960 --> 00:25:10.079 always see but I'm gonna believe still like I have faith. 328 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.640 The conversation between him and the Clone, I can't remember 329 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:18.240 the clone's name off the top of my head. I 330 00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:25.799 thought that was a really interesting It's Max, by the way, Max. Okay, yeah, 331 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:33.480 between Cardiff and Max. I really really liked that conversation. 332 00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:38.000 But it was too short. It was too little. It 333 00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:41.920 was too little of a moment because you you feel 334 00:25:41.920 --> 00:25:46.960 like that's gonna linger right the idea of faith because 335 00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:49.839 at the end, at the end, when they're you know, 336 00:25:50.000 --> 00:25:53.480 fighting Grievous, they're trying to get off the planet and 337 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.039 also kind of to let people know what this thing is. 338 00:25:58.240 --> 00:26:02.440 Cardiff and his team are off to a planet in 339 00:26:02.519 --> 00:26:04.960 wild space that they don't really know a whole lot about. 340 00:26:05.200 --> 00:26:08.759 They haven't really been in contact with this planet. The 341 00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:13.279 Republic hasn't in like a millennia, so like it's really 342 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.559 weird that they're kind of, you know, reaching out, so 343 00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:19.000 they're gonna have Cardiff and his team go check it out. 344 00:26:19.480 --> 00:26:22.319 Of course, we find out that Grievous is there, and 345 00:26:22.359 --> 00:26:25.440 Grievous is literally there just to get Cardiff and his 346 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:34.400 team away from the war within itself. So near the end, 347 00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:38.200 when it's starting to like get to the peak and 348 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:41.279 like getting ready to resolve. You would think that the 349 00:26:41.319 --> 00:26:46.480 idea of faith would really come back and hit home, 350 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:51.680 but it's kind of stale, Like the idea of faith 351 00:26:53.759 --> 00:26:57.720 doesn't really hit as hard as the actual conversation does 352 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:03.440 when the conversation happens with Max and the the reason why, 353 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:10.240 I think is because Max, because technically these clones are children. 354 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:16.279 They don't have a lot of concept of life, which 355 00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:17.960 is also something that a lot of people need to 356 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:22.519 think about when they're having these topic conversations in comics 357 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.359 and everything else. He asks, like, you said something about faith, 358 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:28.759 but like what does that mean? And it's really funny 359 00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:32.480 because that's exactly what like a child would say, and 360 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:34.759 he explains it. He's like, oh, well, faith is this 361 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:36.799 you know, I have faith in the Force, and I 362 00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:39.960 know that the Force is this all, you know, all 363 00:27:40.079 --> 00:27:43.279 encompassing thing that is with me and you, and you know, 364 00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:46.440 no matter what happens, I know the Force is always 365 00:27:46.440 --> 00:27:52.680 with me. And he's like, oh, well, so the force 366 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:54.960 kind of defines you. He's like, oh see, that's totally 367 00:27:55.000 --> 00:27:58.079 something different, yea. And he starts to talk about like, oh, 368 00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:01.079 you guys were bred to be warriors and you kind 369 00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:02.839 of have this idea of like, hey, this is what 370 00:28:02.920 --> 00:28:09.160 I have to be. Like, I really liked that psychology there. 371 00:28:09.720 --> 00:28:15.039 It was a super nice dynamic to explore, Like, oh, 372 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.640 so you believe in a greater power that has control 373 00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.960 over all things, so you don't have freedom of choice 374 00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:24.559 and it's like, no, you do. Doesn't mean that it's 375 00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.920 not going to know what you're gonna do and stuff, 376 00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:34.279 but like you believe in the forest. Therefore you have 377 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:36.640 freedom of choice because you're picking what you think. 378 00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.279 Yeah, basically, I always I've. 379 00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:45.319 Always struggled with that concept myself. So this different perspective. 380 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:49.400 And it does really well with this concept of the 381 00:28:49.440 --> 00:28:53.960 clones because we know that there are clones that are 382 00:28:54.240 --> 00:29:01.400 a deserters eventually, so those clones have their free will 383 00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:04.880 and are able to live their lives. Excuse me. So 384 00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:09.240 I really like all of that. I just think that 385 00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:13.599 it didn't quite hit home at the TSUE when I 386 00:29:13.640 --> 00:29:17.640 do feel like it should have, because there is this 387 00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:22.119 moment with Cardiff when he's fighting grievous when he does 388 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:26.400 mention faith again and it's all too quick. It's just 389 00:29:26.440 --> 00:29:31.119 boom boom, boom, boom boom. You know. Really love the art. 390 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:34.519 I really like all of the panels of the fight. 391 00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:38.039 I think it looks great, but again, I just think 392 00:29:38.079 --> 00:29:43.400 it's way too quick to really hit home the key 393 00:29:43.480 --> 00:29:49.680 points that the story was trying to hit. I do 394 00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:54.319 like because even the moment where he is on his 395 00:29:54.319 --> 00:30:00.960 communicator and he is talking to the residents of the planet, 396 00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:03.640 he's like, you know, I really hope that you come 397 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.160 and you you know, you protect your planet and all 398 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:09.079 this other stuff, and like you feel like they're not 399 00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.880 gonna come by that sentiment right just by the sentiment. 400 00:30:13.039 --> 00:30:15.920 By by the next page, they're already there. So like 401 00:30:16.559 --> 00:30:19.200