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<v Speaker 1>Hello, how are you jive toime?

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<v Speaker 2>Wednesday afternoon, fourteen minutes past the hour of two o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>It is another great day, man. It's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about seventy degrees and sunny, little breezy outside on

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<v Speaker 2>this Wednesday afternoon, and as it is every day, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to have you along for the rides.

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<v Speaker 1>Spence Check.

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<v Speaker 2>Its behind the Mike Porter Larson back in downtown Salt

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<v Speaker 2>Lake City, behind the glass and we got a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to do on the opening night for the Utah Jazz

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<v Speaker 2>this evening. The NBA opened last night with a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of not so awesome games. A couple of takeaways from

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<v Speaker 2>those games. Momentarily, the Celtics ran away from the Knicks

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<v Speaker 2>and the Lakers handled the Timberwolves pretty easily. So two

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<v Speaker 2>NBA games last night. Now tonight it is the turn

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<v Speaker 2>of the Utah Jazz. They welcome in the Memphis Grizzlies,

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<v Speaker 2>who had a chaotic year last year. Most of our

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<v Speaker 2>best players didn't play a whole lot, including John Morant

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<v Speaker 2>who only played nine games. Memphis is still dealing with

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<v Speaker 2>a ton of injuries. Jaron Jackson Junior, maybe their second

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<v Speaker 2>best player to Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>He's out tonight. Luke Cnnard out tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Cam Spencer, the rookie out of Yukon out tonight, and

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<v Speaker 2>Gig Jackson out tonight as well. For the Jazz, No

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny Juzang or Isaiah Collier, two young players that are

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<v Speaker 2>probably are not going to play all that much either,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll get some Jazz hoops.

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<v Speaker 1>Get you ready for Opening Night tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Always love when the NBA is back and NBA basketball

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<v Speaker 2>is back, and we got some good guests talk NBA

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<v Speaker 2>hoops today on the program on this Wednesday afternoon, one

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<v Speaker 2>day closer to the weekend, halfway through your work week,

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<v Speaker 2>one day closer to football, one day closer.

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<v Speaker 1>To week eight in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting going now, it's am interesting NFL storylines. Apparently the

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<v Speaker 2>Rams are looking to move Cooper Cup who is awesome

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<v Speaker 2>but can't stay healthy. It's going to be the Vikings

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<v Speaker 2>and the Rams from SOFI coming up tomorrow Thursday Night

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<v Speaker 2>Football and we will get you ready for some pro football.

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<v Speaker 2>We are your home of the NFL here in the market,

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<v Speaker 2>so you can hear Thursday Night Football at ESPN seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred after we say goodnight tomorrow just about six o'clock.

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Video is your home for that game.

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<v Speaker 2>So Viking rams Minnesota one of the surprise teams in

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<v Speaker 2>the league. They're five and one overall after losing last

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<v Speaker 2>week to the Lions. They're a three point favorite on

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<v Speaker 2>the road and so far so that that's how your

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<v Speaker 2>NFL weekend will get going. Obviously, continuing to monitor the

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<v Speaker 2>situation for Utah football is they're going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>get right again. You know, I've said it, this feels

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<v Speaker 2>I could get right game for the past three weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>It has not been a get right, get right game yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Houston is the anecdote. Houston not a great Big

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<v Speaker 2>twelve football team. They did beat TCU, who quin snelionoff

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<v Speaker 2>b Utah. Utah is a three point five point favorite.

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<v Speaker 2>That line has stayed level now for about twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 2>After moving the way of the Utes, BYU hits the

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<v Speaker 2>road to Orlando to take on UCF, of course, bringing

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<v Speaker 2>me on with a dream season so far, although the

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<v Speaker 2>spread has flipped interestingly enough. It opened up BYU is

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<v Speaker 2>a one point favorite, and then it moved towards BYU.

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<v Speaker 2>They were minus two and a half a one point.

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<v Speaker 2>UCF is a full two point favorite now to beat

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<v Speaker 2>BYU coming up on Saturday at one thirty Mountain time

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<v Speaker 2>on ESPN. I will remind you that BYU is beatn

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<v Speaker 2>SPREAD in every single game. If you're into such things.

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<v Speaker 2>My advice to U is to never gamble on sports.

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<v Speaker 2>But some people enjoy it entertainment purposes only here on

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<v Speaker 2>the show, so.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot to do.

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<v Speaker 2>The Utah Hockey Club humbled last night at home. The

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<v Speaker 2>Senators hung four goals in the first period and neither

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<v Speaker 2>team scored the rest of the way. Anton Forsburg with

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one saves and the Utah Hockey Club only shut

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<v Speaker 2>out for the second time.

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<v Speaker 1>All year long.

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<v Speaker 2>They're back at it against the Avalanche coming up on Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>RSL off until next week. The MLS playoffs will start

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<v Speaker 2>at America First Field on Tuesday night at seven o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>as Minnesota is in town to take on RSL best

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<v Speaker 2>of three, with RSL maintaining that home field advantage. So

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<v Speaker 2>great time of year, a little bit of everything going on.

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<v Speaker 2>Excited for this Grizzlies game tonight. The Jazz are going

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<v Speaker 2>to open up their season tonight after the NBA opened

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<v Speaker 2>up the season last night, so we're gonna get to

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<v Speaker 2>some Jazz is gonna get some college football, gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>to some NBA big picture stuff and everything we can

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<v Speaker 2>fit in. By the way, it's Big Twelve media days.

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<v Speaker 2>As far as the basketball side, so youte basketball pick

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<v Speaker 2>to finish last. Oh, it's been a rough couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>rough couple of months for you fans. You basketball pick

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<v Speaker 2>to finish last in the Big Twelve. BYU pick to

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<v Speaker 2>finish ninth, which is a statement of a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Just how deep the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Is in men's hoops, and you know, ultimately how many

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<v Speaker 2>good teams with a ton of talent are in this conference.

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<v Speaker 1>BYU is gonna be really good.

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<v Speaker 2>They're picked to finish ninth, a ton of Big Twelve

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<v Speaker 2>teams in the top twenty five. So yes, we can

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<v Speaker 2>add college football to the Nicks.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the World.

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<v Speaker 2>Series starts on Friday, so a little bit of everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's how we're gonna roll today, Mark Harlan, Utah athletic

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<v Speaker 2>director will stop by. This is an interesting time for

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<v Speaker 2>Mark since he took over, Since he took the job

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<v Speaker 2>a number of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Youth football has more or less in a really good space.

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<v Speaker 2>But the football team is down the basketball team pick

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<v Speaker 2>to finish last in the Big Twelve. So we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>with Mark today, see how his world is. Right out

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<v Speaker 2>of the gates. To two thirty NBA Daily Assists was

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Harper. Zach makes his trump for a return of

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<v Speaker 2>the program from the Athletic in the Cinafold podcast, My

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<v Speaker 2>buddy Blake Murdoch will stop by. I got a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm driving a great car right now.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about Coming up at three thirty, it's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little behind the glass with Neil Smith, source some NHL,

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<v Speaker 2>the latest on the Utah Hockey Club and what's next.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Richard Smith's Smitty.

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<v Speaker 2>Live on site to get us ready for Jazz Grizz

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<v Speaker 2>tonight and talk some NBA basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>We're live today at the Dish. Professionals. Come on buy

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<v Speaker 4>It's eight oh one.

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<v Speaker 1>Four to two four dish.

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<v Speaker 2>That's eight oh one four two four dish. A bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of great deals on Internet, bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Of great deals on cable. We'll let you know what

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<v Speaker 2>So Mark Carlin, Zach Harper, Blake Murdoch, Neil Smith, Richard Smith,

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<v Speaker 2>me spent check ats all of you the great listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Porter, The good news is the Knicks don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to play the Celtics every single game. The bad

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<v Speaker 2>news is all they did is put kat and pick

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<v Speaker 2>and roll like I thought they would.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I think the issues with the Knicks are going to

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<v Speaker 5>be exactly what you expect, right, You had a star

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<v Speaker 5>of that caliber and you're gonna have some benefits on

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<v Speaker 5>the offensive side. But you also see why there are

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<v Speaker 5>some detractors on Karl Anthony towns.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we'll see.

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<v Speaker 5>But yeah, after one game, looking like the Celtics might

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<v Speaker 5>be class of the East again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and probably the entire NBA. So our first guest

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<v Speaker 2>will be Mark Harlan right out of the gates. But

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<v Speaker 2>now for your opening tip.

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<v Speaker 6>Welcome to the Drive with Spence Check. It's on Utah's

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<v Speaker 6>number one Sports Talk. Now into the studio of ESPN

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<v Speaker 6>seven hundred to set the scene for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>The opening tip of.

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<v Speaker 1>Opening night tonight for the Utah Jazz.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something that I've always loved all the way back

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<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid in the eighties watching jazz basketball,

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<v Speaker 2>and definitely Jazz fans NBA fans waking up with a

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<v Speaker 2>little different pep in your step. Couple of games last

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<v Speaker 2>night neither really all that, you know, you know, interesting

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just tell you this.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know Tom Thibodeau had Karl Anthony Towns

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota. All the Celtics did was put cat and

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<v Speaker 2>pick and roll with either Tatum or Brown. Get the

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<v Speaker 2>switch they wanted, beat them one on one, swing it

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<v Speaker 2>side to side, take a three, or get a bucket.

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<v Speaker 2>They had twenty nine threes. Joe Mizula talked about them

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<v Speaker 2>shooting even more threes this year, and they averaged twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine attempted threes last year, or excuse me, thirty nine

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<v Speaker 2>attempted threes. They shot sixty one last night. The Celtics

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<v Speaker 2>are the class of the league. They're probably gonna win

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<v Speaker 2>the championship again. I know that's one thing that bumps

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<v Speaker 2>people out about the NBA, you can kind of predict

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<v Speaker 2>how this stuff is gonna go. That's gonna change, though,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll get to that in a moment. Minnesota has

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<v Speaker 2>a Mike Condi problem, and I love but he's just older.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably why they traded for Dante dian Vincenzo. They

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<v Speaker 2>could not get back in transition, and Anthony Davis did

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<v Speaker 2>whatever he wanted to do. I mean, the Lakers at

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<v Speaker 2>some point will be AD's team. And Ad had thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six and sixteen last night, had a big block on

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<v Speaker 2>Gobar at the rim. So a couple games neither are

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<v Speaker 2>all that consequential. But the NBA is back now for

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<v Speaker 2>the Jazz Tonight, Memphis is in town now. The Grizzlies

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<v Speaker 2>come off just a catastrophic chaotic year last year, where

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of their best players didn't play very much,

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<v Speaker 2>including Marcus Smart, who they traded for from the Celtics,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously including John Moran, who's still is box office

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<v Speaker 2>man when he's healthy. When he's right, he's must see TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And joh is back, but they will be without. Memphis

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<v Speaker 2>will four rotational pieces, including Luke Canard, Cam Spencer, Jaron

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<v Speaker 2>Gig Jackson.

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<v Speaker 1>The Jazz will be without Johnny Juzeng, who shot really

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<v Speaker 1>well in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Preseason, and Isaiah Collier, their rookie, who did show a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of an ability to be elite guard in

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<v Speaker 2>a way maybe some of the other players on the

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<v Speaker 2>roster have not shown so far. Memphis is your favorite tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>two and a half point favorite on the road. Get

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<v Speaker 2>used to that if you're a Jazz fan. So ultimately,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to what you're watching for from the

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<v Speaker 2>Jazz this year, if we take the front office, that

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<v Speaker 2>there word. We have had a couple of media sessions

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<v Speaker 2>with Danny Ainge, Justin Zanik, one with Ryan Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>We've heard from Will Hardy a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>This is going to be a year where you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get to know these young players, including the young

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<v Speaker 2>year in the G League. Don't panic, That's fine, That's

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<v Speaker 1>Some time in the G League. But if the front

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<v Speaker 2>Telling us the truth, and we can only take them

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a mistake to play an emotional song for

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<v Speaker 1>Mark today?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to make my guy cry because I

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<v Speaker 2>it with us on a Wednesday afternoon. The athletic director

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<v Speaker 2>of the University of Utah, Mark Harlin, is our guest.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Wednesday, sir, How are you hey?

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 8>Man?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good, I'm good. I appreciate your time, and let's

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<v Speaker 2>just get right into it. You know, the football program

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<v Speaker 2>has really been on incredibly stable footing for the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of your tenure.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not implying that they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>It just the foundation feels a little looser than it

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<v Speaker 2>has from my prison ever since you've taken the job.

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<v Speaker 2>How have you have you digested the last three weeks

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<v Speaker 2>for Utah football and the news that coach a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of step decide.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, it's certainly been a tough It's tough, really four

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<v Speaker 9>obviously some unexpected results and some disappointing play, and especially

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<v Speaker 9>this losing streak, you know, being at home. It's something

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<v Speaker 9>that's obviously really disappointing, but no more so than for

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<v Speaker 9>anybody more than this football team and this incredible staff

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<v Speaker 9>that surrounds them down there at the Echos Football Center.

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<v Speaker 9>So you know, in times like this. You got a

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<v Speaker 9>all the outside noise of negativity, or or you do

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<v Speaker 9>the complete opposite and you just really get back to

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<v Speaker 9>what I'm really excited about is what I've seen, particularly

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<v Speaker 9>in the last forty eight hours with our football program

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<v Speaker 9>practice yesterday. It was spirited, it was physical, It was

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<v Speaker 9>a lot of energy on both sides of the ball,

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<v Speaker 9>and it just reminds me we got a great coaching staff, Spence,

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<v Speaker 9>and I have no doubt that they'll get this thing back.

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<v Speaker 2>On track, a coaching staff that has a track record

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<v Speaker 2>of turning around slow starts, as I continue to talk about,

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<v Speaker 2>and so certainly coach Wit deserves the benefit of the doubt.

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<v Speaker 2>But Mark, if you could, and obviously there are plenty

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<v Speaker 2>of things that you'll keep between the walls where they happened,

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<v Speaker 2>but if you could take us in inside the decision

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<v Speaker 9>I think you know when you go through kind of

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<v Speaker 9>to look at every everything, and that also meant not

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<v Speaker 9>only he looking at it, that every single coach was

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<v Speaker 9>going to look at their position group and and the

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<v Speaker 9>things that need to do better, because this is isn't

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<v Speaker 9>just one player, it's not one coach, it's not one

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<v Speaker 9>you know, position group. It's a collection. It's a collection

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<v Speaker 9>of people that all have to to raise their game.

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<v Speaker 9>And you know, out of that, Andy, who is just

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<v Speaker 9>a remarkable coach, a remarkable man, just felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 9>a new voice was needed, and he, you know, he

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<v Speaker 9>Sunday that that will remain private except to say how

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<v Speaker 9>for a second stint, and I gave me an opportunity

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<v Speaker 9>to tell him that that he is a legendary figure

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<v Speaker 9>uh and arguably been around some of the greatest moments

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<v Speaker 9>of this football program, and that will never change. I

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<v Speaker 9>really appreciated him for everything that that he did. But

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<v Speaker 9>you know, we move forward and I'm really excited about

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<v Speaker 9>you know what I've seen. Uh, And there's great leaders

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<v Speaker 9>on that team, and this time, when you go through

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<v Speaker 9>lean on your leaders. That starts with all Hall of

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<v Speaker 9>of this team to pull it together and you know,

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<v Speaker 9>get out there and play Utah football.

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<v Speaker 2>Have any other changes been considered when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>the staff at this point, because, as you outlined when

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know this, it hasn't been good enough all

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<v Speaker 1>Have you considered any other changes at this point?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I'm not going to go in the direction of that.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that's up to Coach Wit to continually analyze

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<v Speaker 9>that and we talk and we bounce things off each other.

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<v Speaker 9>thing that we can do right now is to get

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<v Speaker 9>the minds right to play a great football game in

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<v Speaker 9>Houston Saturday, night and prepare for that like it means everything,

429
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<v Speaker 9>and it does mean everything to those guys. Get back

430
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<v Speaker 9>on the winning track and take this thing step by step.

431
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<v Speaker 2>So I exist in a stratosphere mostly of you'd fans

432
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<v Speaker 2>as far as my social circle, and these are boosters,

433
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<v Speaker 2>these are alumni, these are season ticket holders. And if

434
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<v Speaker 2>my inbox says what it says, I have to imagine

435
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<v Speaker 2>your inbox says something that you know. And I'm not

436
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<v Speaker 2>talking about the internet where cowards go to feel brave, Mark,

437
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not talking about the social media feedback. When the

438
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<v Speaker 2>football team struggles, What does the athletic director's inbox look like?

439
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<v Speaker 9>You know, it's always going to be up down, and

440
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<v Speaker 9>I've just chosen not to really even consider that kind

441
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<v Speaker 9>of noise. It's the same thing we encourage our student

442
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<v Speaker 9>athletes on any teams, and that includes when we're playing

443
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<v Speaker 9>at a really high level, right, because if you buy

444
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<v Speaker 9>into that stuff, then you're probably not spending your time

445
00:19:51.039 --> 00:19:53.640
<v Speaker 9>on the right thing, right. You know, we know the

446
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<v Speaker 9>work that goes in and we know the strategy that

447
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<v Speaker 9>you have to deploy for each contest football in any sport,

448
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<v Speaker 9>and where you can really find yourself extremely lost is

449
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<v Speaker 9>if you start listening and all those kinds of things listen.

450
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<v Speaker 9>At the end of the day, we appreciate the incredible

451
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<v Speaker 9>support this football team gets for every incredible victory we've had.

452
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<v Speaker 9>The losses are probably even more painful than victory, and

453
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<v Speaker 9>I respect that. I mean, anything less than dominance from

454
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<v Speaker 9>this football program is hard to tolerate, and I totally

455
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<v Speaker 9>understand that. But in terms of listening and reading and

456
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<v Speaker 9>that stuff, it's just a waste of time.

457
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<v Speaker 2>And certainly I understand that when it comes to comments

458
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<v Speaker 2>on an article or tweets underneath you know, mentions on

459
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<v Speaker 2>a tweet or what have you. But do you feel like,

460
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<v Speaker 2>because look, the lifeblood of college football right now, certainly

461
00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.359
<v Speaker 2>with nil, you need revenue from boosters, you need support

462
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<v Speaker 2>from the community, do you still feel like the people

463
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<v Speaker 2>that you need as part of your program or steadfast

464
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<v Speaker 2>in that support.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, I mean, why would I think otherwise? I don't

466
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<v Speaker 9>think folks that are invested in a deep way that

467
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<v Speaker 9>we have so many folks here going to take three

468
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<v Speaker 9>weeks of a football game we decided to walk away.

469
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<v Speaker 9>You know, they are concerned. I'm concerned. What's concerned? The

470
00:21:06.279 --> 00:21:09.440
<v Speaker 9>players are concerned? Right, but we also talk about being

471
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<v Speaker 9>a family, and the family is not you know, is

472
00:21:12.799 --> 00:21:15.079
<v Speaker 9>a group that's investing in us, in a group that's

473
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<v Speaker 9>working hard to get it fixed. So I am in

474
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<v Speaker 9>no worry of worrying about donations that help support our

475
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<v Speaker 9>football program. We have incredible fan base. We're going through

476
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<v Speaker 9>a tough time. They'll help us get out of it,

477
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<v Speaker 9>and and I'm looking forward to them doing just that.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is as a result of the expectations the

479
00:21:32.720 --> 00:21:35.079
<v Speaker 2>football team is set. I mean, you understand that when

480
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<v Speaker 2>I was in school, it wasn't this. When I was

481
00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:39.640
<v Speaker 2>in school four and three, it was like, sweet, maybe

482
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<v Speaker 2>we can get to a bowl. Like there's just a

483
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<v Speaker 2>different expectation with Utah football over the past, you know,

484
00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:49.400
<v Speaker 2>really twenty years or so. That didn't exist once upon

485
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<v Speaker 2>a time. So the reaction of the community, the downtrodden field.

486
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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm in the stadium, Mark, I can feel it.

487
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<v Speaker 4>It's different.

488
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<v Speaker 2>The muss is the muss, and you need good football

489
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<v Speaker 2>to cheer for. But I think the at least from

490
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<v Speaker 2>my prism, I mean, we all come at this from

491
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<v Speaker 2>our own echo chamber.

492
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<v Speaker 1>I think the.

493
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<v Speaker 2>Downtrodden emotion in the fan base right now and the

494
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<v Speaker 2>folks that care about Utah football as a result of

495
00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.720
<v Speaker 2>what they're accustomed to because of the standard that's been set,

496
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<v Speaker 2>and when the standards not met, people are are not

497
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<v Speaker 2>going to be thrilled, if that makes.

498
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<v Speaker 9>Sense, of course, and I have every right net to

499
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<v Speaker 9>be thrilled. I mean, like I said earlier, this this

500
00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.759
<v Speaker 9>has been a program that has been dominant, particularly since

501
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<v Speaker 9>the twenty eighteen season, much less the historic seasons and

502
00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:33.240
<v Speaker 9>moments that happened previous to that. One of the highest

503
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<v Speaker 9>winning percentages in the country. I mean, even this season

504
00:22:36.480 --> 00:22:38.160
<v Speaker 9>we were ranked tenth at one point. I mean, I

505
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<v Speaker 9>totally understand. I'm very empathetic to that feeling, and I

506
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<v Speaker 9>and you know, and what I also say is that

507
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<v Speaker 9>no one feels worse than the guys that are out

508
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<v Speaker 9>there playing and the guys that know that they want

509
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<v Speaker 9>to succeed not only for themselves and their families, for

510
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<v Speaker 9>their school, but also for all the folks that.

511
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<v Speaker 4>Come to cheer.

512
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<v Speaker 9>So all of that's there, and all of that's part

513
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<v Speaker 9>of college football, but when you're in a moment like

514
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<v Speaker 9>this is the leadership position I'm in, and coach and

515
00:23:04.119 --> 00:23:06.559
<v Speaker 9>all the coaches and staff surrounding those student athletes is

516
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<v Speaker 9>to make sure they remain confident or make sure they

517
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<v Speaker 9>have the space to work and prepare and get on

518
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<v Speaker 9>to the next opponent. And that really has been our focus.

519
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<v Speaker 2>And also, Mark, it's a chance to see what you're

520
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<v Speaker 2>made of, because I'm often and folks who listen to

521
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<v Speaker 2>the show, and I know you're an every day So

522
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<v Speaker 2>thank you for that. You know that I have any

523
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<v Speaker 2>sports as it reflects real life guy, And these are

524
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<v Speaker 2>the times in life, and these are the times in

525
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<v Speaker 2>sports where you find out what your group is made of.

526
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<v Speaker 2>Because look, and I've been called a lunatic for this,

527
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<v Speaker 2>I've been called a lunatic for several things. But there's

528
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<v Speaker 2>actually still a path there really is. Now you have

529
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<v Speaker 2>to get creative. You have to be overly optimistic with

530
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<v Speaker 2>you goggles because you have head to heads with three

531
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<v Speaker 2>of maybe the four best teams in the conference with BYU,

532
00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Colorado and Iowa State, and they're actually now you have

533
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<v Speaker 2>to hope that the other teams get got a little

534
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<v Speaker 2>bit because they're gonna have to enter this with three

535
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<v Speaker 2>losses as well. Are you willing to stress your imagination

536
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<v Speaker 2>on this day after a three game losing streak. For

537
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<v Speaker 2>something special to be salvaged this year, you do have

538
00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:09.200
<v Speaker 2>to get creative, but it is out there.

539
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<v Speaker 9>I appreciate your thoughts, and I'm sure there's folks thinking

540
00:24:12.799 --> 00:24:16.839
<v Speaker 9>that way. I would just tell you straight from this office,

541
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<v Speaker 9>throughout the Eccles football and beyond, it's all about Saturday

542
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<v Speaker 9>at Houston. It's about winning a football game. And all

543
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:27.200
<v Speaker 9>of those other things are out of our control. And

544
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<v Speaker 9>the teams you mentioned may win, they may lose, but

545
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<v Speaker 9>right now it's all about Houston. That's where we're at

546
00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:38.319
<v Speaker 9>and that's our singular focus within the football program.

547
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<v Speaker 2>Help us understand if you can. And look when I

548
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:43.519
<v Speaker 2>was eighteen, if I put on matching socks, I won

549
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<v Speaker 2>the day. So I'm going easy on Isaac Man Like

550
00:24:46.079 --> 00:24:48.880
<v Speaker 2>he enrolled in April. He was trying to throw touchdowns

551
00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:51.440
<v Speaker 2>again Skyridge High School a year ago. But help us

552
00:24:51.480 --> 00:24:55.680
<v Speaker 2>understand the dynamic between Mike Bajakian, the new play caller,

553
00:24:55.759 --> 00:24:58.640
<v Speaker 2>and Isaac. You know when Isaac was interviewed on Tuesday

554
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<v Speaker 2>after practice and he said he's signed here to play

555
00:25:00.759 --> 00:25:02.720
<v Speaker 2>for coach Love, you just felt bad for the kid

556
00:25:02.799 --> 00:25:05.759
<v Speaker 2>because I think, well, I'm reminded of how young he

557
00:25:05.839 --> 00:25:07.519
<v Speaker 2>is when he takes his helmet off, and I'm like.

558
00:25:07.559 --> 00:25:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Dude, he is so he's just like so young.

559
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:13.039
<v Speaker 2>So what's the dynamic like between those two And what

560
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:15.799
<v Speaker 2>do you anticipate seeing now that there's a different, different

561
00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.119
<v Speaker 2>guy in charge of playing a call in plays.

562
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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, I mean I really appreciate the entire team, and

563
00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:24.279
<v Speaker 9>the team is made up of so many incredible young men.

564
00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:26.960
<v Speaker 9>You know, we have some grizzled vets and then we

565
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<v Speaker 9>have our freshman group and certainly our sophomore And I

566
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<v Speaker 9>think it's been a little on a report how many

567
00:25:31.440 --> 00:25:35.759
<v Speaker 9>young players have really been making impact this year. You

568
00:25:35.799 --> 00:25:38.559
<v Speaker 9>look at our tackles, just how amazing they are, how

569
00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:41.240
<v Speaker 9>young they are, and I think both being named, you know,

570
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<v Speaker 9>on all American lists midway through the year. You know,

571
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<v Speaker 9>Isaac has just been just been terrific. You know, it

572
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<v Speaker 9>was a blessing for all of us that he was

573
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<v Speaker 9>able to get here in the spring and we'll early

574
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<v Speaker 9>and you know, do all the work, assimilate with the

575
00:25:53.920 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 9>team in that period of time and obviously not expected

576
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<v Speaker 9>for him to carry the kind of load he is,

577
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<v Speaker 9>But he's a mature young man. He's got a great family,

578
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<v Speaker 9>He's obviously got an older brother who's been through a

579
00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:06.880
<v Speaker 9>lot of pressure situations that he gets to lean on.

580
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<v Speaker 9>And you know, it's been fun to watch his growth.

581
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<v Speaker 9>You know, I was so impressed with him. It's still

582
00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:15.599
<v Speaker 9>water the way he handled that crowd and the way

583
00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:18.599
<v Speaker 9>he made decisions. And we're seeing him, you know, come

584
00:26:18.599 --> 00:26:21.039
<v Speaker 9>of age quicker than we probably all thought. But I

585
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<v Speaker 9>give him a lot of credit. As far as as

586
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<v Speaker 9>coach Pajenkian, and you know, I've known.

587
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:25.799
<v Speaker 3>Him for a while.

588
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:28.799
<v Speaker 9>We actually lived close to each other in Tampa, of

589
00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.480
<v Speaker 9>all places, when he was coaching quarterbacks with the Bucks,

590
00:26:31.519 --> 00:26:33.640
<v Speaker 9>and I was the athletic director there at South Florida,

591
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 9>and so I've really admired him, and he's been great,

592
00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:39.599
<v Speaker 9>and I think, you know, he's ready to take on

593
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.519
<v Speaker 9>this challenge. He certainly has the experiences called plays, but

594
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<v Speaker 9>more importantly, you know, the connectivity of the offense and

595
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:49.759
<v Speaker 9>the things that he's done getting everybody on the same page. Obviously,

596
00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:52.079
<v Speaker 9>helping Isaac is a big part of that, but it's

597
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 9>beyond just the quarterback position, right, everybody has a part

598
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:57.279
<v Speaker 9>in this, and everybody has to lean in and lead,

599
00:26:57.839 --> 00:27:01.079
<v Speaker 9>and that's really the work that's being done as we speak.

600
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<v Speaker 2>One more football question then when a couple of minutes left.

601
00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>There there's a lot going on right now.

602
00:27:06.680 --> 00:27:08.519
<v Speaker 2>It's like the busiest time of year, which makes it

603
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<v Speaker 2>fun and probably a little chaotic. But since you and

604
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<v Speaker 2>I last spoke, and look, my bottom line here is

605
00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:17.319
<v Speaker 2>the worst possible luck for Cameron Rising.

606
00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.160
<v Speaker 1>I just my I'm gutted for him.

607
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 2>I feel horrible for him because of course he wanted

608
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to come back and play against ASU. He probably was

609
00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:26.799
<v Speaker 2>hearing some noise and feeling some pressure. Then he gets

610
00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.279
<v Speaker 2>rolled on the third play and if you watch that

611
00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:31.920
<v Speaker 2>replay in slow motion, I don't know how he's even

612
00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:34.680
<v Speaker 2>walking after that play, but he got up and gutted

613
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 2>it out.

614
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately didn't work out.

615
00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:39.680
<v Speaker 2>But if this is it for Cameron, because the future

616
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:41.559
<v Speaker 2>will figure itself out, there's going to be a time

617
00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.359
<v Speaker 2>for that conversation, but today's not that time. If this

618
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.880
<v Speaker 2>is it for Cameron Rising, how should we view him

619
00:27:47.000 --> 00:27:48.039
<v Speaker 2>as he walks out the door?

620
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<v Speaker 9>Epic game changer for this program? Leadership Alpha Dog? You

621
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 9>know all of all of those things, And I just

622
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<v Speaker 9>I have so many memories and interactions with Cam through

623
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.799
<v Speaker 9>the years, and you know, I remember when he didn't

624
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:09.319
<v Speaker 9>get we had applied it was like years and years

625
00:28:09.319 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 9>ago now when we had applied to have him play

626
00:28:12.279 --> 00:28:14.920
<v Speaker 9>immediately after he transferred in from Texas and we got

627
00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.519
<v Speaker 9>the word that he couldn't, right, he didn't satisfy those requirements.

628
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:20.799
<v Speaker 9>And I remember telling him, and he had that goofy smile, like,

629
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.559
<v Speaker 9>all right, I'll just get to work, you know, And

630
00:28:23.640 --> 00:28:25.519
<v Speaker 9>he just went up in the in the in the

631
00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:28.759
<v Speaker 9>in the booth and just helped Andy and and and

632
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:31.240
<v Speaker 9>you know, just all the things he's done. It just

633
00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.400
<v Speaker 9>really disappointing for him and obviously for all of us.

634
00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:37.200
<v Speaker 9>But he worked really really hard to get back. He

635
00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:40.039
<v Speaker 9>had the unfortunate injury in the Baylor game, and then

636
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<v Speaker 9>of course, you know all the work he did and

637
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<v Speaker 9>just you know, right in the beginning of the Arizona

638
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:46.240
<v Speaker 9>State game, he just he just got hurt again. So

639
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:49.519
<v Speaker 9>you know, the ending is tough for him, and feel

640
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<v Speaker 9>bad for him. That's the nature of sport. But doesn't

641
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<v Speaker 9>take away the championships, the Rose Bowl, the Rose Bulls,

642
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.119
<v Speaker 9>you know, think about that with an s Nothing takes

643
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<v Speaker 9>that away.

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<v Speaker 2>And forever grateful, all right, lost in the shuffle, because

645
00:29:03.400 --> 00:29:06.839
<v Speaker 2>there's so much going on is Big Twelve media days

646
00:29:06.880 --> 00:29:09.440
<v Speaker 2>for the basketball team, both the men's and the women's.

647
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<v Speaker 1>Let's start on the men's side.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, the Pac twelve at times was

649
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<v Speaker 2>a solid basketball conference. It you know, it went up

650
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<v Speaker 2>and down like most conferences do. This is a different challenge.

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<v Speaker 2>There are five Big Big twelve teams in the top ten,

652
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<v Speaker 2>which is a record. Six are ranked five in the

653
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<v Speaker 2>top ten, So this is going to be quite a

654
00:29:31.759 --> 00:29:34.599
<v Speaker 2>challenge for Craig. And you know, I think what we've

655
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<v Speaker 2>learned on the football side of things is, don't ever

656
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<v Speaker 2>listen to the media. We don't know anything better. Pick

657
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 2>to finish last in the Big twelve. Not a lot

658
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 2>of chatter around Utah hoops as of now. What can

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<v Speaker 2>you share about what's going on behind closed doors with

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<v Speaker 2>the preparation.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, just a lot of really solid work. You know,

662
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:54.160
<v Speaker 9>with the new rules in this transfer portal era, you know,

663
00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:56.720
<v Speaker 9>most teams are adding seven to ten new players across

664
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<v Speaker 9>the country, and you know, being able to that summer

665
00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:02.799
<v Speaker 9>work and then stretching into the fall has been real

666
00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:07.039
<v Speaker 9>blessing for us. You know, we had a scrimmage with

667
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<v Speaker 9>a really solid Big ten team here on Saturday, we

668
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<v Speaker 9>played fantastic. I was able to watch the whole game,

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<v Speaker 9>really impressed. The outcome was terrific. You know, the individual

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<v Speaker 9>players that I haven't seen in game conditions, was really

671
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<v Speaker 9>really impressed. I mean, the scrimmage was run just like

672
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<v Speaker 9>it was a game, with the exception of the fans

673
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<v Speaker 9>had a little COVID look in there, the referees, the

674
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<v Speaker 9>whole thing. So it was the first time to see

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<v Speaker 9>them play. They're very connected this early, very physical, very athletic.

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<v Speaker 9>Really really impressed with what I saw. You know, our

677
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<v Speaker 9>two guards are just big and smart and really impressive,

678
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<v Speaker 9>and and so I'm excited about it. You know, I

679
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<v Speaker 9>think they have a real chance to to you know,

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<v Speaker 9>to do some things that will be really really excited about.

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<v Speaker 9>They're really excited about that competition.

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<v Speaker 10>You know.

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<v Speaker 9>I think that that's what's you know, student athletes at

684
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<v Speaker 9>this level, that's what they want. They thrive in that competition.

685
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<v Speaker 9>It makes them work even harder. So I'm excited about that.

686
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:05.519
<v Speaker 9>And then the women, you know, they have Gianna back.

687
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<v Speaker 9>It's just just gigantic for the program. I mean, the

688
00:31:07.839 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 9>loser last year was just devastating, and to see her

689
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.039
<v Speaker 9>back smile and running around is fantastic, along with Jenna

690
00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:17.319
<v Speaker 9>and some other incredible returning players. And they just got

691
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 9>back from media day yesterday and said it was terrific. So,

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<v Speaker 9>you know, both programs are really excited to get started.

693
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<v Speaker 9>It is amazing that we start in the next few weeks,

694
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<v Speaker 9>really excited about having our fans back. We're actually up

695
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<v Speaker 9>in season tickets on men's basketball. Really really appreciate our

696
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:34.240
<v Speaker 9>fans for that, and we look forward to everyone coming

697
00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 9>out and watching both teams play.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I say you loose, I just wanted to give

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<v Speaker 1>you a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that the golf team is climbing, and as

701
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<v Speaker 2>a old man, you can't play pickup hoops anymore. I

702
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:45.880
<v Speaker 2>swing a golf club quite a bit, so excited about that.

703
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:49.559
<v Speaker 2>But football and basketball from a meat and potato sports

704
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>stock radio standpoint kind of gets a lot of bandwidth

705
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:53.920
<v Speaker 2>around here. What are some of the other happenings around

706
00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 2>the athletic department right now?

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<v Speaker 9>Mark, Well, I appreciate that because obviously football takes a

708
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<v Speaker 9>lot of headlines, but the other sports are just having

709
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 9>some of their best balls they've had in years. You know,

710
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.799
<v Speaker 9>you mentioned golf, the highest ever rating today at tenth,

711
00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 9>when two tournaments already cross country highest rating in their

712
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.079
<v Speaker 9>program history at six in the nation and volleyball, you know,

713
00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 9>twenty two in the country. Off for a big weekend

714
00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:20.240
<v Speaker 9>the rink sixteenth in the NCAA Pull, which means we

715
00:32:20.319 --> 00:32:23.400
<v Speaker 9>host the tournament, and women's soccer is fighting for the

716
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.720
<v Speaker 9>buy in the tournament coming up here in the Big Twelve.

717
00:32:26.759 --> 00:32:29.319
<v Speaker 9>Just having a fantastic year. All those teams head and

718
00:32:29.400 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 9>ride at postseason play, so you know, excited about all

719
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 9>the work that's going on the transition in the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 9>We're all learning new faces, new places, but really really

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<v Speaker 9>proud of a lot of teams here and appreciating all

722
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<v Speaker 9>the fans sticking with us as we go through this,

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<v Speaker 9>and rest assured we're doing the work on the football

724
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<v Speaker 9>side to get this thing back to the level that

725
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<v Speaker 9>we all.

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<v Speaker 4>Know it can be.

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<v Speaker 2>Better days ahead, Mark, And you know you're not always up,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know you've been in this business a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>So thank you for the time on a tough week,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'd love to have you on again soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, appreciate it. Thank you all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Carlin, Athletic director for the University of Utah. He

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<v Speaker 2>is on social media. He has his own podcast. You

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<v Speaker 2>four West seven hundred South Sweet four oh one in

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<v Speaker 2>Pleasant Grove, NBA. Started last night, the Utah Jazz open

781
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<v Speaker 2>up their season this evening against the Grizzlies.

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<v Speaker 1>Pitbull is on my radio show.

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<v Speaker 2>It must mean the triumphant return of one Zach Harper

784
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<v Speaker 2>on a beautiful Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Zach, I love you, I hate you.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you?

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<v Speaker 10>I'm great? I love you and I love you. You know,

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<v Speaker 10>no hatred here, even though you're wrong about Pitbull. The

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<v Speaker 10>concert happen yet in Salt Lake City.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't know if it did, Buddy. That's where I'm

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<v Speaker 2>at with pit Bull the perfect cover. How you been Man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm good man.

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<v Speaker 4>I you know.

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<v Speaker 10>I try to take time and not get excited about

795
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<v Speaker 10>the season until like opening night, and yesterday I was

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<v Speaker 10>geeks for it. I was so excited that everything was

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<v Speaker 10>back and I'm here for well. Tonight's games are terrible,

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<v Speaker 10>but for the most part, I'm here for the return

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<v Speaker 10>of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, and I follow you, follow you on socials.

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<v Speaker 2>So you had a rather eventful off season, mister world traveler,

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<v Speaker 2>tell us give us the cliff notes.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, much like much like Pitbull, I was trying

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<v Speaker 10>to be mister worldwide.

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<v Speaker 4>Indeed, I went to Europe.

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<v Speaker 10>I went to Amsterdam, I went to Copenhagen, I went

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<v Speaker 10>to Prague, I went to Paris, I went to London.

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<v Speaker 10>That was everywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Now has your palette changed?

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<v Speaker 2>That's the number one thing that changes when you're traveling

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<v Speaker 2>travel internationally.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, I like, I learned about some you know,

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<v Speaker 10>Czech or Czech Republic chech food, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't know what you call it, check food, prog food.

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<v Speaker 10>I learned about some stuff, and I wasn't a huge fan.

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<v Speaker 10>I was reinforced on all things French cooking, and then

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<v Speaker 10>just very surprised how into Italian food that Amsterdam was

819
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<v Speaker 10>ah a lot of and also in Copenhagen apparently known

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<v Speaker 10>for hot dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>I did not know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've only been to the airport in Amsterdam, so I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't really sampled the cuisine.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can move on. Nobody gives a rip outside

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<v Speaker 1>of me, but it's my show, Zach, as you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So indeed, so we sit here opening night for the

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<v Speaker 2>Utah Jazz. We'll start locally and then we'll expand it

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<v Speaker 2>to some other topics and conversation around the NBA.

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<v Speaker 1>They essentially ran it back with three new rookies.

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<v Speaker 2>Justin Zanik for his preseason media availability, when asked about

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<v Speaker 2>the big game hunting Moniker, he said, we tried and

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<v Speaker 2>there was nothing out there. Well, I'll leave aside the

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen really good players that actually did move. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>what he's saying is there was nothing out there that

835
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<v Speaker 2>was worth it to sacrifice. You know, the assets they

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<v Speaker 2>have Vegas over under is twenty nine and a half,

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<v Speaker 2>so they think we're in for another year of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some decent basketball, but mostly mediocre basketball. Their pick is

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<v Speaker 2>top ten protected. If it's out of the top ten,

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<v Speaker 2>it goes to OKC. I know this sounds like we're just,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, replaying an interview we did last October, but

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<v Speaker 2>we're kind of in the same spots, Ac, What are

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<v Speaker 2>you expecting from the Jazz.

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<v Speaker 10>I feel like we're the two radio guys and in

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<v Speaker 10>the movie groundhog Day, just yelling in the Groundhog Day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, yeah, uh yeah.

847
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:03.119
<v Speaker 10>I mean this is where this is where the jazz exists.

848
00:38:03.159 --> 00:38:04.639
<v Speaker 10>They don't want to do a full tank. They want

849
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.679
<v Speaker 10>to be competitive. I expect a lot of like the

850
00:38:08.679 --> 00:38:10.480
<v Speaker 10>the same as the last two years. Like I think

851
00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:13.679
<v Speaker 10>they'll be surprisingly good to a lot of people outside

852
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:16.400
<v Speaker 10>of the Salt Lake City market, right, I think a

853
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:18.639
<v Speaker 10>lot of people are expecting, oh, well, the jazz they're rebuilding,

854
00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:20.599
<v Speaker 10>they'll be bad, and in the first couple of months

855
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:22.599
<v Speaker 10>they'll be pretty competitive, pretty good, and then at a

856
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:25.719
<v Speaker 10>certain point, I don't know it's called January, it's called February,

857
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:30.960
<v Speaker 10>you'll see them turned towards quote unquote development. I think

858
00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 10>part you know, the rosters. The roster's good, like if

859
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:37.280
<v Speaker 10>they if they stayed healthy, like that roster could compete

860
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:39.800
<v Speaker 10>for a playing tournament spot in most years, except this

861
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 10>year it's going to be like thirteen teams competing for

862
00:38:43.400 --> 00:38:46.159
<v Speaker 10>a playing tournament spot. So it's it's a little more crowded.

863
00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:51.480
<v Speaker 10>But you know, especially like last year is whatever, right,

864
00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.639
<v Speaker 10>Like the rookie class was terrible. The year before you

865
00:38:54.679 --> 00:38:57.440
<v Speaker 10>and I had talked about that, and I kept quoting

866
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.920
<v Speaker 10>Marcellus Wallace from Fault Fiction saying, and like that feeling

867
00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:02.559
<v Speaker 10>in the back of your head when you try to

868
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.360
<v Speaker 10>win this thing that's pride bleeping with you. Like that,

869
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.280
<v Speaker 10>it feels like we're in the same spot because this

870
00:39:07.360 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 10>draft class has four or five six guys who could

871
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:14.639
<v Speaker 10>be franchise players at some point. I mean it's you know,

872
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:16.840
<v Speaker 10>it's probably don't all pan out that way, but it's

873
00:39:16.840 --> 00:39:21.880
<v Speaker 10>pretty deep with possibilities, and so you know it has

874
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 10>You're trying to rebuild, and you're trying to do it,

875
00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:27.119
<v Speaker 10>you know, the right way, but stay cant. You just

876
00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:28.679
<v Speaker 10>got to let you gotta let it go at some

877
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:30.000
<v Speaker 10>point and just be bad.

878
00:39:31.280 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's where I've been at.

879
00:39:32.519 --> 00:39:35.719
<v Speaker 2>But they disagree and they run the show, and they've

880
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.159
<v Speaker 2>yet to hire us as their consultants even though our

881
00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:39.159
<v Speaker 2>business is out there.

882
00:39:39.199 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 1>Just go ahead and hit us.

883
00:39:40.079 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 4>Up on the social too.

884
00:39:41.239 --> 00:39:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, man, And they're blowing it by not

885
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>bringing us in.

886
00:39:44.039 --> 00:39:47.199
<v Speaker 2>But ultimately, since you and I last spoke, they did

887
00:39:47.239 --> 00:39:50.760
<v Speaker 2>bring back marketing on a Max Steal and that's who

888
00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 2>he is in the league, and that's who he is

889
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.719
<v Speaker 2>to this team. Do you have any insight as to

890
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:57.199
<v Speaker 2>whether or not they were ever close to actually pulling

891
00:39:57.199 --> 00:39:58.840
<v Speaker 2>the trigger on a move with him, And what do

892
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 2>you make of who they perceive to.

893
00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 1>Be And look, he's really good.

894
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to come across like I'm knocking on

895
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:07.760
<v Speaker 2>marketing because he's awesome. They talk about him as if

896
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:10.519
<v Speaker 2>he's a legitimate cornerstone. I think he's more like the

897
00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:12.760
<v Speaker 2>third best player on a title winning team, but they're

898
00:40:12.800 --> 00:40:13.519
<v Speaker 2>not close to that.

899
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:15.119
<v Speaker 1>So do you have any.

900
00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:17.079
<v Speaker 2>Insight as far as how close they were to movie

901
00:40:17.159 --> 00:40:20.360
<v Speaker 2>him and what are your thoughts on them committeing a

902
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.760
<v Speaker 2>big portion of their cat to him in the future.

903
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:26.960
<v Speaker 10>I don't think it got particularly close, you know, I know,

904
00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 10>I know Sacramento called in, I know you know the

905
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.679
<v Speaker 10>Warriors were heavily involved, but you know, some other teams

906
00:40:33.679 --> 00:40:39.199
<v Speaker 10>were definitely interested. But you get into this negotiating standoff

907
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:41.239
<v Speaker 10>and it happens a lot. It's not just the Danny

908
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 10>Aingeer jazz thing, but you get into the standoff where, hey,

909
00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 10>this is our guy. We like him a lot, We're

910
00:40:48.760 --> 00:40:52.360
<v Speaker 10>gonna max him out. He you know, he's he's an

911
00:40:52.360 --> 00:40:55.119
<v Speaker 10>all star, he's an all NBA level player. We want

912
00:40:55.199 --> 00:40:57.760
<v Speaker 10>all these assets, we want all these things in return

913
00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:00.480
<v Speaker 10>and the other team looks at him like him, but

914
00:41:00.519 --> 00:41:02.079
<v Speaker 10>he's not our number one. We're not going to give

915
00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:04.679
<v Speaker 10>up all that. You know, you just get into this,

916
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:08.800
<v Speaker 10>this just ping pong negotiation. And I think because of

917
00:41:08.840 --> 00:41:11.400
<v Speaker 10>what Utah was asking for. And I don't blame them,

918
00:41:11.440 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 10>you should ask for a lot, especially in the summer

919
00:41:13.599 --> 00:41:18.079
<v Speaker 10>when deals are more, you know, are easier to get done.

920
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:20.800
<v Speaker 10>I just I don't think it ever really got close.

921
00:41:20.880 --> 00:41:23.920
<v Speaker 10>He is a really good player. I'm with you, Like

922
00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.559
<v Speaker 10>I think he's probably a number two on a title

923
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 10>contending team. I don't. I definitely don't think he's a

924
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:31.360
<v Speaker 10>number one. But he's he's awesome, Like he's so good.

925
00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:33.920
<v Speaker 10>And so they bring, you know, they bring him back

926
00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:37.760
<v Speaker 10>on this max deal and it and it eliminates all

927
00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.400
<v Speaker 10>the trade chatter for this year, and we'll revisit next

928
00:41:40.400 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 10>summer and see, you know, when when the dust starts

929
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 10>to settle, who who really wants to go get him?

930
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:50.360
<v Speaker 2>So xanik Ames, even Ryan Smith, the owner, whenever they're

931
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:54.400
<v Speaker 2>asked about kind of the plan for this season, they

932
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>refer to the youth and they talk about development, and

933
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.719
<v Speaker 2>they've all said with some small variation with each like

934
00:42:00.760 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the only way to develop our young players is to

935
00:42:02.920 --> 00:42:06.960
<v Speaker 2>play them. So there are seven players twenty three or under.

936
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.199
<v Speaker 2>It's Walker Kessler is the oldest, and obviously all these

937
00:42:10.280 --> 00:42:11.199
<v Speaker 2>rookies all the way down.

938
00:42:11.119 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 1>To Isaiah Callier.

939
00:42:12.519 --> 00:42:16.239
<v Speaker 2>The question is Will Hardy right, because ultimately the rotation

940
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:18.800
<v Speaker 2>is going to be up to him, And so do

941
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>you anticipate Will leaning into simply developing young players? And

942
00:42:22.920 --> 00:42:25.559
<v Speaker 2>on the night that Isaiah Colliers one for seventeen and

943
00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 2>isn't going to impact winning, will he allow these young

944
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:31.679
<v Speaker 2>players to play through mistakes? Are we gonna have to suffer?

945
00:42:31.840 --> 00:42:35.280
<v Speaker 2>Hearing David Locke breaking down the Patty Mills Drew Eubanks

946
00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.599
<v Speaker 2>pick and roll ratio in the third quarter because he

947
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 2>goes to the vets, I mean, I'm wondering how Will's

948
00:42:39.599 --> 00:42:40.199
<v Speaker 2>going to handle this?

949
00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:44.280
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean I think Will. I think, you know,

950
00:42:44.599 --> 00:42:46.559
<v Speaker 10>like I do think they empower Will from what I hear,

951
00:42:46.639 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 10>and I think they should. I think at a certain

952
00:42:50.079 --> 00:42:53.320
<v Speaker 10>point it won't be up to Will as much, right

953
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:56.639
<v Speaker 10>in terms of like, hey, you know, we're five ten

954
00:42:56.679 --> 00:42:59.000
<v Speaker 10>games under five hundred. It's the middle of the season.

955
00:42:59.119 --> 00:43:03.760
<v Speaker 10>We're good, but we're not terrible. You know, we maybe

956
00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:06.119
<v Speaker 10>we start focusing. Maybe this guy is a little injured,

957
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:08.920
<v Speaker 10>maybe we trade away this guy. But I think eventually

958
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.480
<v Speaker 10>you it's just a lot of what happened last two years,

959
00:43:11.480 --> 00:43:14.039
<v Speaker 10>Like you go towards that. I think I think will

960
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:16.320
<v Speaker 10>would you know, we saw it with Chanta George. Actually

961
00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.159
<v Speaker 10>think Chanto George is a perfect example.

962
00:43:18.239 --> 00:43:18.639
<v Speaker 11>Last year.

963
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:21.400
<v Speaker 10>There were times where he showed glimpses early on. I'm like, yo,

964
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 10>this kid is good. This kid deserves to be on

965
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:24.840
<v Speaker 10>the court. And there were times where he played and

966
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:27.840
<v Speaker 10>you don't. I don't know why he's out there, right.

967
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.559
<v Speaker 10>I mean, it was more good than bad, but he

968
00:43:30.679 --> 00:43:32.639
<v Speaker 10>was a rookie. He was a rookie point guard, and

969
00:43:32.679 --> 00:43:34.400
<v Speaker 10>I think it led to that kind of ebb and

970
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 10>flow and he's stuck with him. But I don't think

971
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:40.800
<v Speaker 10>everyone gets that same luxury as Kante George gotten, nor

972
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:42.719
<v Speaker 10>should I do. I think they should, because I don't

973
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:46.199
<v Speaker 10>know how many of these guys are are ready to

974
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 10>kind of deal with the lows when also going through

975
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 10>the hives. And so that's a long winded way of

976
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:53.679
<v Speaker 10>saying I don't know, but I think it will be

977
00:43:53.719 --> 00:43:55.440
<v Speaker 10>taken out of his hands at some point.

978
00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's uh let's dig into Kiante a little bit.

979
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.480
<v Speaker 2>So the fact of the matter is you brought this

980
00:44:00.559 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 2>up a couple of times. He was not a great

981
00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:05.400
<v Speaker 2>shot maker in college, and he was not a great

982
00:44:05.440 --> 00:44:07.559
<v Speaker 2>shot maker his rookie year, even though he had some

983
00:44:07.639 --> 00:44:10.199
<v Speaker 2>volume in some usage. I mean, he averaged eleven field

984
00:44:10.199 --> 00:44:13.039
<v Speaker 2>goal attempts at night but shot thirty nine percent, shot

985
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.360
<v Speaker 2>six threes a night, but only shot thirty three percent.

986
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:17.480
<v Speaker 1>You like the body you like to build.

987
00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I still am a little bit skeptical about his ability

988
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.480
<v Speaker 2>to lead a team as a lead guard. Will continuously

989
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:26.679
<v Speaker 2>talks about not using labels and it doesn't matter who

990
00:44:26.719 --> 00:44:29.079
<v Speaker 2>initiates the offense. That's fine, but somebody still got to

991
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:32.119
<v Speaker 2>make a play. So your two keyante, George, what do

992
00:44:32.119 --> 00:44:32.840
<v Speaker 2>you think it looks like?

993
00:44:34.000 --> 00:44:36.000
<v Speaker 10>I mean, I think I think it looks you know,

994
00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.239
<v Speaker 10>I think it looks a lot better I you know,

995
00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:42.360
<v Speaker 10>he it's it's weird. It's with him, everything looks good

996
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:46.519
<v Speaker 10>in terms of creation and ability, Like he creates a

997
00:44:46.599 --> 00:44:48.599
<v Speaker 10>shot that I think is like, that's a good shot

998
00:44:48.639 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 10>and it just doesn't go down. I don't look at

999
00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:53.719
<v Speaker 10>his shooting form and think, God, it needs an overhaul, right,

1000
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.519
<v Speaker 10>Like I look at him, like, yeah, it's pretty good.

1001
00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:57.519
<v Speaker 10>Like his shooting force is pretty good. He seems pretty comfortable,

1002
00:44:57.519 --> 00:44:59.599
<v Speaker 10>he seems comfortable attacking the basket, he seems comfortable in

1003
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:02.199
<v Speaker 10>the middle of the floor. But the results aren't there

1004
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:06.039
<v Speaker 10>in terms of shot making. I like their approach with

1005
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 10>him of just kind of letting him figure it out.

1006
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:13.360
<v Speaker 10>But you probably only have another season until that's the problem, right, Like,

1007
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.119
<v Speaker 10>he's he's good, Like he has great poise for being

1008
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:19.039
<v Speaker 10>a you know, going into his second years as.

1009
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:19.400
<v Speaker 4>A lead guard.

1010
00:45:19.840 --> 00:45:23.320
<v Speaker 10>He he's he's got a good build, like he's you know,

1011
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:27.559
<v Speaker 10>everything is everything looks like he's a player. But if

1012
00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:31.159
<v Speaker 10>that shot doesn't start falling and isn't progressing, and the

1013
00:45:31.159 --> 00:45:33.280
<v Speaker 10>finishing at the rim isn't progressing, like all that stuff

1014
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 10>isn't progressing as this season goes on, yeah, like early

1015
00:45:37.280 --> 00:45:39.480
<v Speaker 10>on next season, if that's still an issue, you have

1016
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 10>to be concerned. I don't think there's anything to be

1017
00:45:41.119 --> 00:45:43.760
<v Speaker 10>concerned about right now, but it is weird that everything

1018
00:45:43.800 --> 00:45:46.320
<v Speaker 10>looks so good and the results in terms of just

1019
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:49.880
<v Speaker 10>accuracy don't come close to mirroring that.

1020
00:45:50.800 --> 00:45:54.239
<v Speaker 2>So it's a big year for Walker because ultimately, you know,

1021
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 2>year three rookie deal. They did pick up his option,

1022
00:45:56.920 --> 00:45:59.280
<v Speaker 2>which isn't a surprise so beyond the team next year,

1023
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:02.880
<v Speaker 2>but second Rookie of the Year voting shout out Andy Larson,

1024
00:46:03.000 --> 00:46:04.639
<v Speaker 2>who voted for him for Rookie of the Year.

1025
00:46:04.679 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh Andy, God bless you.

1026
00:46:05.719 --> 00:46:08.039
<v Speaker 2>He was never gonna be that uh And the year

1027
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:10.599
<v Speaker 2>one to year two jump was not there. All of

1028
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.000
<v Speaker 2>his numbers dipped outside of blocks per game, but the

1029
00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:16.760
<v Speaker 2>opponent's field goal percentage at the rim actually improved a lot.

1030
00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:19.639
<v Speaker 2>So he was blocking shots but not affecting them in

1031
00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:22.559
<v Speaker 2>a way that he did as a rookie. So for

1032
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Walker to convince the organization that he's not just a

1033
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 2>guy in a rotational piece, but a guy that you

1034
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:30.079
<v Speaker 2>can start and roll with, what does this year have

1035
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:30.599
<v Speaker 2>to look like?

1036
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:35.000
<v Speaker 10>I mean, you know it starts with health obviously, but

1037
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:37.639
<v Speaker 10>he he just has to be someone. Can he run, dribble,

1038
00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 10>handoff stuff. Can he you know, be alone on the

1039
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:42.920
<v Speaker 10>perimeter with the ball. And it's not a complete minus.

1040
00:46:42.960 --> 00:46:44.320
<v Speaker 10>It doesn't mean he has to shoot threes, but he

1041
00:46:44.360 --> 00:46:45.559
<v Speaker 10>has to be able to, like, you know, kind of

1042
00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:48.679
<v Speaker 10>dribble into some action. Find you know, find a guy

1043
00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 10>coming off the screen with a crisp pass like. All

1044
00:46:50.719 --> 00:46:52.559
<v Speaker 10>that stuff has to happen. He has to finish at

1045
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:54.079
<v Speaker 10>the rim. He has to be a lob thread at

1046
00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.800
<v Speaker 10>the rim. He has to be great kind of orbiting

1047
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:00.239
<v Speaker 10>that circle and getting into the dunker spot, all that

1048
00:47:00.239 --> 00:47:03.239
<v Speaker 10>stuff offensively. I think he'll be fine because of that.

1049
00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:07.199
<v Speaker 10>He can't foul. He has to rebound at a at

1050
00:47:07.199 --> 00:47:09.039
<v Speaker 10>a you know, almost an all star rate. I mean,

1051
00:47:09.079 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 10>he just has to be a guy where there's no

1052
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.480
<v Speaker 10>doubt you want him on the court in big minutes,

1053
00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 10>and there's no doubt you want him on the court

1054
00:47:16.159 --> 00:47:18.639
<v Speaker 10>when things are going poorly, like that's the guy that

1055
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.840
<v Speaker 10>can help calm things down. And we saw it develop

1056
00:47:21.920 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 10>with Gobert, you know, pretty quickly once they turned the

1057
00:47:25.480 --> 00:47:27.599
<v Speaker 10>keys over to him. I don't think that's fair to expect.

1058
00:47:27.639 --> 00:47:30.280
<v Speaker 10>I think everything like that we talked about, that was

1059
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:33.360
<v Speaker 10>talked about in general after that trade and in that

1060
00:47:33.400 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 10>first year post trade, I think it actually did him

1061
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.880
<v Speaker 10>a lot of disservice because he was good. He was surprised,

1062
00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:42.719
<v Speaker 10>but he wasn't Gobert right, If this whole thing like

1063
00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:45.239
<v Speaker 10>that became this is the worst trade ever to Now, Hey,

1064
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:48.519
<v Speaker 10>that's a good trade for both sides. I think he

1065
00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:51.559
<v Speaker 10>just has to go in with sticking on the floor

1066
00:47:51.599 --> 00:47:53.639
<v Speaker 10>and they they got to trust him, like they have

1067
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 10>to trust him early on to make mistakes even as

1068
00:47:55.960 --> 00:47:59.360
<v Speaker 10>they're being competitive, because if they start yanking his minutes

1069
00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:01.440
<v Speaker 10>and they start pulled him off there, now you just

1070
00:48:01.440 --> 00:48:04.119
<v Speaker 10>get into a very complicated situation of what the future

1071
00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 10>of him on that team and his contract and everything.

1072
00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 10>Looks like.

1073
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.199
<v Speaker 2>We had local media members saying after two weeks that

1074
00:48:10.280 --> 00:48:12.320
<v Speaker 2>he was better than Gobert when he was a rookie.

1075
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.840
<v Speaker 1>So you know, that's kind of how we roll around here.

1076
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I suppose I should ask you, is there any player

1077
00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:20.760
<v Speaker 2>on this roster that reminds you of a young Manu Ginobili.

1078
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:24.800
<v Speaker 10>You know, one that actually does Maybe Cody Wallents. I

1079
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:27.079
<v Speaker 10>love Cody Williams, like that rookie the year. I'm a

1080
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:29.840
<v Speaker 10>big Cody Williams guy. I don't know if that's Manu territory,

1081
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 10>but you know there's time for that to develop.

1082
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one step at a time.

1083
00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's move into the Cody space, because, like you, I

1084
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:37.440
<v Speaker 2>like him a lot, and I do think he's going

1085
00:48:37.480 --> 00:48:39.039
<v Speaker 2>to get run out of the gates.

1086
00:48:39.239 --> 00:48:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I think he's going to play right away.

1087
00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think the other two will Isaiah Collier has

1088
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:46.480
<v Speaker 2>hurt tonight and he might crack the rotation. I think

1089
00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Philip Palace. He's going to start the season in the

1090
00:48:49.440 --> 00:48:51.639
<v Speaker 2>G League, which is fine. He's a late first round pick.

1091
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>But I, like you, I'm pretty enamored with Cody, so

1092
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:55.800
<v Speaker 2>I hope to see him quite a bit starting tonight.

1093
00:48:56.159 --> 00:48:58.280
<v Speaker 2>What do you like most about this young lottery pick

1094
00:48:58.320 --> 00:48:59.199
<v Speaker 2>rookie for the Jazz.

1095
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:01.280
<v Speaker 10>I just I think he's feel for the game, you know,

1096
00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 10>I don't. I don't think it's fair to compare him

1097
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:04.960
<v Speaker 10>to his brother for those who don't know, you know,

1098
00:49:05.039 --> 00:49:08.239
<v Speaker 10>Jayalen Williams and the good One and okay, see the

1099
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:10.239
<v Speaker 10>guy who's a borderline All Star, Like they they have

1100
00:49:10.440 --> 00:49:13.239
<v Speaker 10>similar games, but it's you know, his brother was just

1101
00:49:13.239 --> 00:49:16.199
<v Speaker 10>so much further along than he is at this point.

1102
00:49:16.599 --> 00:49:18.639
<v Speaker 10>But I think, like, I think the SHOT's good. I

1103
00:49:18.679 --> 00:49:21.280
<v Speaker 10>think his feel for, you know, just doing things with

1104
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.199
<v Speaker 10>the basketball. I think has great instincts. I think his

1105
00:49:23.360 --> 00:49:26.639
<v Speaker 10>great size, his athleticism is good. Like I just every

1106
00:49:26.920 --> 00:49:30.400
<v Speaker 10>box is ticked for me in terms of what I

1107
00:49:30.400 --> 00:49:33.119
<v Speaker 10>think he can be as a just a really really

1108
00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:36.039
<v Speaker 10>good role player. I don't think he's a star, but

1109
00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:38.559
<v Speaker 10>I think, you know, in terms of everybody else in

1110
00:49:38.559 --> 00:49:41.000
<v Speaker 10>this draft class, I would take his stock over anybody's.

1111
00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 10>He was my probably my third favorite prospect in the draft,

1112
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:47.639
<v Speaker 10>and I just love everything I see from him. I

1113
00:49:47.679 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 10>think he'll earn minutes early on, and he'll be someone

1114
00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:53.280
<v Speaker 10>that you just flat out can't take out the rotation.

1115
00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:55.400
<v Speaker 10>The only thing is, you know, if he has injury

1116
00:49:55.400 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 10>problems like he had a little bit last year, then

1117
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.679
<v Speaker 10>maybe he's not getting the time. But I I just, man,

1118
00:50:00.719 --> 00:50:03.480
<v Speaker 10>I think he's such a can't miss prospect in terms

1119
00:50:03.480 --> 00:50:05.320
<v Speaker 10>of becoming a really good role player.

1120
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Last Jazz thing.

1121
00:50:06.719 --> 00:50:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Then we'll move on to some other topics before I said,

1122
00:50:09.960 --> 00:50:13.679
<v Speaker 2>you loose for this Wednesday hit. And you know, Dennis Lindsay,

1123
00:50:13.719 --> 00:50:16.679
<v Speaker 2>the prior iteration of the Jazz front off is Quinn Snyder.

1124
00:50:16.760 --> 00:50:20.039
<v Speaker 2>Those guys, and they often talked about both on and

1125
00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 2>off the record, by the way, kind of calculating their

1126
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 2>build to coincide at its peak with the rest of

1127
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 2>the league, kind of going down a little bit with

1128
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Age with Lebron, aging with Steph Age, aging with Durant

1129
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:35.559
<v Speaker 2>aging and things like that. And you know, Donovan's still

1130
00:50:35.559 --> 00:50:39.000
<v Speaker 2>really good, although it's hilarious that he loves Cleveland so much.

1131
00:50:39.239 --> 00:50:40.960
<v Speaker 2>New York didn't watch you, so you love where your

1132
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:43.239
<v Speaker 2>feet are at. Bottom line, go Bear is still good

1133
00:50:43.280 --> 00:50:45.400
<v Speaker 2>in his prime. I mean, most of those guys outside

1134
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 2>of like Ingles and Conley are still in their prime.

1135
00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 2>So you can see what Dennis was talking about with

1136
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 2>his calculation of making them at their peak when some

1137
00:50:54.400 --> 00:50:56.440
<v Speaker 2>of the league his aged. Now, the problem is the

1138
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:59.559
<v Speaker 2>league has reset, but the Jazz if not so Oka

1139
00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 2>is good and young, Minnesota and still a kid, and

1140
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 2>I could keep going, you know the deal Wembin, Yama,

1141
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 2>san Antonio. I could continue. There are five, six, seven

1142
00:51:08.559 --> 00:51:11.159
<v Speaker 2>very good teams that are still very young. Lucas still

1143
00:51:11.199 --> 00:51:14.960
<v Speaker 2>in his twenties, yokiches too. So what does the calculation

1144
00:51:15.079 --> 00:51:17.079
<v Speaker 2>look like now as far as the next window that

1145
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:19.840
<v Speaker 2>could be open if the Jazz actually build something special

1146
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:21.599
<v Speaker 2>over the next few years, because it doesn't seem like

1147
00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 2>it's anytime soon.

1148
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.039
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean, I don't think you can look at

1149
00:51:25.039 --> 00:51:28.599
<v Speaker 10>it that way anymore. Right, There's so many different timelines

1150
00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:32.480
<v Speaker 10>throughout the Western Conference, And again, like if the Spurs

1151
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:36.119
<v Speaker 10>can be just solid all season and not go through

1152
00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:38.639
<v Speaker 10>those big dips like they did last year, they'll be

1153
00:51:38.679 --> 00:51:40.519
<v Speaker 10>in the mix of the playing tournament too, because I

1154
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 10>don't know how many wins it's gonna saey, Like, there's

1155
00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:45.639
<v Speaker 10>just too many good teams in the Western Conference to

1156
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 10>believe that, you know, you're gonna have a forty seven

1157
00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:51.840
<v Speaker 10>to forty eight win team in the ten spot. Like,

1158
00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.760
<v Speaker 10>I think it's gonna be much more close to to

1159
00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:57.400
<v Speaker 10>you know, five hundred teams there because the winds there

1160
00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:01.360
<v Speaker 10>are only so many wins available. With that said, like

1161
00:52:01.400 --> 00:52:04.159
<v Speaker 10>I just I think you just have to get good.

1162
00:52:04.599 --> 00:52:06.440
<v Speaker 10>And I know that sounds super simple, but you like

1163
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:08.320
<v Speaker 10>you got to go get your guy, whether that's you know,

1164
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.920
<v Speaker 10>Cooper Flag or Ace Bailey or Dylan Harper or whoever,

1165
00:52:11.039 --> 00:52:12.920
<v Speaker 10>like you know, the big kid from Duke.

1166
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 4>Like whoever that is.

1167
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:18.039
<v Speaker 10>They're like, there's just so many prospects in the next

1168
00:52:18.079 --> 00:52:20.360
<v Speaker 10>couple of years. Maybe you're maybe you're gunning for, like,

1169
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:23.039
<v Speaker 10>you know, one of the Boozer twins, you know, the

1170
00:52:23.119 --> 00:52:25.320
<v Speaker 10>year after, Like I don't know what that plan is,

1171
00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 10>but you have to go get those guys and just

1172
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 10>start building and knowing that you're not walking into you know,

1173
00:52:32.280 --> 00:52:35.239
<v Speaker 10>a battle Royale with just like four teams that like, yeah,

1174
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:38.400
<v Speaker 10>you're probably like trying to jockey for position with with

1175
00:52:38.559 --> 00:52:41.880
<v Speaker 10>eight nine teams that are on a similar timeline or

1176
00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:43.719
<v Speaker 10>a close enough one that you don't feel like, oh

1177
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:46.000
<v Speaker 10>yeah when that when that dip happens, we will be

1178
00:52:46.039 --> 00:52:47.480
<v Speaker 10>on the way up. I just I don't think the

1179
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:50.519
<v Speaker 10>West is built that way anymore. And in order to

1180
00:52:50.639 --> 00:52:53.719
<v Speaker 10>have that kind of approach, I think you have to

1181
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:55.599
<v Speaker 10>be in the East, and it's pretty difficult get Salt

1182
00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:57.320
<v Speaker 10>Lake City into into the Eastern Conference.

1183
00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've applied, I've not heard back, So we'll see

1184
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:01.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of how.

1185
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:01.960
<v Speaker 1>That plays out.

1186
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:05.760
<v Speaker 2>Hey, before right, I know we do, I know, I know,

1187
00:53:05.920 --> 00:53:08.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean we are worldwide to speaking of pitbull, I

1188
00:53:08.599 --> 00:53:11.400
<v Speaker 2>mean prestige worldwide. You know, hit us up last thing,

1189
00:53:11.559 --> 00:53:13.960
<v Speaker 2>then I'll set you loose. Since Memphis is in town tonight,

1190
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:17.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering what you expect now. Jared Jackson Junior is

1191
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:21.559
<v Speaker 2>not playing. Neither's Lukenard, neither's Gig Jackson, their rookie cam

1192
00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.480
<v Speaker 2>spencer from Yukon. They're without four rotational pieces, but they

1193
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:26.800
<v Speaker 2>do get job back, who only played nine games last year.

1194
00:53:26.880 --> 00:53:28.880
<v Speaker 2>What what do you expecting to see from the grizz

1195
00:53:28.920 --> 00:53:30.159
<v Speaker 2>starting tonight all year long.

1196
00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:33.679
<v Speaker 10>You know, I've been anti Zachi Edie just I don't.

1197
00:53:33.800 --> 00:53:36.599
<v Speaker 10>I didn't. I haven't thought it's gonna work in any way.

1198
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:39.920
<v Speaker 10>I'm you know, it's just preseason. But like I was,

1199
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:42.880
<v Speaker 10>I was impressed with how he moved, sure, impressed with

1200
00:53:42.880 --> 00:53:44.840
<v Speaker 10>with how they used him and how John him played

1201
00:53:44.840 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 10>off each other a little bit. So I do think

1202
00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.800
<v Speaker 10>that adds a really interesting just presence, and especially if

1203
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.559
<v Speaker 10>you're talking about a jazz team that has Walker Kessler

1204
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:55.159
<v Speaker 10>is the other guy. Well, it's one of the few

1205
00:53:55.199 --> 00:53:57.360
<v Speaker 10>instances in which Walker Kesler isn't going to be bigger

1206
00:53:57.400 --> 00:53:59.519
<v Speaker 10>and longer than the guy who's going Y's right. So

1207
00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:03.440
<v Speaker 10>I think that actually presents a very tough matchup where

1208
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:05.679
<v Speaker 10>he can just plant, he can roll, he can just

1209
00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:08.800
<v Speaker 10>do a lot of things. And it's because you have

1210
00:54:08.800 --> 00:54:09.679
<v Speaker 10>to have your focus on Jaw.

1211
00:54:09.679 --> 00:54:10.559
<v Speaker 11>You have to have focus on.

1212
00:54:10.559 --> 00:54:13.519
<v Speaker 10>Deszon Vane, just Jaw in those nine games he was

1213
00:54:13.559 --> 00:54:15.599
<v Speaker 10>back with the Grizzes last year, which just a reminder

1214
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:19.400
<v Speaker 10>of oh, yeah, that guy is so good. I get

1215
00:54:19.400 --> 00:54:21.239
<v Speaker 10>all the nonsense he's been through, but that guy just

1216
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.599
<v Speaker 10>galvanizes a team in a way few can, and so

1217
00:54:24.760 --> 00:54:26.880
<v Speaker 10>I expect them to be up and down the floor.

1218
00:54:26.920 --> 00:54:29.400
<v Speaker 10>I expect them to try to play at a really

1219
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.679
<v Speaker 10>fast pace. I think the defense is going to be

1220
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:34.159
<v Speaker 10>very aggressive. I think the Jazz can take advantage of

1221
00:54:34.199 --> 00:54:36.920
<v Speaker 10>that because it's still kind of new getting everything back

1222
00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:38.679
<v Speaker 10>into it. But I think Nty George is in for

1223
00:54:39.039 --> 00:54:40.559
<v Speaker 10>a tough night. I think the back court is in

1224
00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 10>for a tough night. And how they respond to dealing

1225
00:54:42.719 --> 00:54:45.280
<v Speaker 10>with a Marcus Smart at John Moran, any of those guys,

1226
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:48.480
<v Speaker 10>I think will show you know just how resilient or

1227
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:50.920
<v Speaker 10>how I know, it's just one game, but you want

1228
00:54:50.920 --> 00:54:53.760
<v Speaker 10>to start off with a with a good, lasting impression,

1229
00:54:53.800 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 10>and I think this is their chance to go up

1230
00:54:56.320 --> 00:54:58.559
<v Speaker 10>against a better backcourt and still hold their own and

1231
00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:00.480
<v Speaker 10>feel pretty confident going into the next day.

1232
00:55:00.960 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 1>Great to have the NBA back, Zach. Great to have

1233
00:55:03.000 --> 00:55:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you back. Have a great weekend. We'll chat soon, Buddy, okay, dolly,

1234
00:55:07.000 --> 00:55:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh goodness.

1235
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Pitbull fan NBA expert Zach Harper on the show Jazz

1236
00:55:12.119 --> 00:55:14.960
<v Speaker 2>in Action tonight taking on the Grizzlies today. The Dish

1237
00:55:14.960 --> 00:55:16.760
<v Speaker 2>professionals give him a call it eight to one, four

1238
00:55:16.800 --> 00:55:18.719
<v Speaker 2>to two four Dish eight to one, four to two

1239
00:55:18.760 --> 00:55:21.480
<v Speaker 2>four dish. So I'm currently driving around a Genesis GB

1240
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:25.480
<v Speaker 2>eighty and it is awesome. I was in a G

1241
00:55:25.679 --> 00:55:28.360
<v Speaker 2>eighty before, which is kind of their luxury sedan, and

1242
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:30.480
<v Speaker 2>then I traded it in because my friends at Murdoch

1243
00:55:30.480 --> 00:55:32.079
<v Speaker 2>were good enough to take care of me for the winter.

1244
00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 2>We have traded Blake and a protected second round pick

1245
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:39.039
<v Speaker 2>for the more athletic, better looking Murdoch and that is

1246
00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Ben Murdoch live on site.

1247
00:55:40.639 --> 00:55:40.840
<v Speaker 4>Ben.

1248
00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:41.400
<v Speaker 1>How are you man?

1249
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:42.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm great? How are you?

1250
00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm good.

1251
00:55:42.840 --> 00:55:44.480
<v Speaker 2>All I want to know is why you were working

1252
00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:45.960
<v Speaker 2>and Blake happens to be golfing.

1253
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:47.559
<v Speaker 1>How'd you get how'd you get? The rhynd of the deal?

1254
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:49.000
<v Speaker 4>There, we're not supposed to say.

1255
00:55:48.840 --> 00:55:51.119
<v Speaker 3>That out loud in case he's case, he's listening. No,

1256
00:55:51.679 --> 00:55:55.280
<v Speaker 3>he's he's a little trip with my dad out with

1257
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.760
<v Speaker 3>some good friends of theirs, and hopefully they're enjoying their

1258
00:55:58.800 --> 00:55:59.719
<v Speaker 3>time down in South Carolina.

1259
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:02.840
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I'm a big fan of the Murdoch family.

1260
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:05.400
<v Speaker 2>Our fathers were at BYU together. You were at BYU

1261
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:07.400
<v Speaker 2>with my brother Nate, and I was a teammate of

1262
00:56:07.480 --> 00:56:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Blake at Bountiful High. We both played for Mike Maxwell.

1263
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:12.840
<v Speaker 2>You played college basketball, but we won state.

1264
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1265
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Does Blake ever throw that at you?

1266
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:18.519
<v Speaker 3>No, he doesn't because he could never play. I mean

1267
00:56:18.559 --> 00:56:21.840
<v Speaker 3>he played a little bit. But yeah, my senior year actually,

1268
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:24.079
<v Speaker 3>you know, let's go back to some Uncle Rico days.

1269
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:26.599
<v Speaker 3>We were ranked number one in the state pretty much

1270
00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:30.039
<v Speaker 3>all year and lost a lone peak in the semi finals.

1271
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 3>We had good good my senior we had a really

1272
00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:34.880
<v Speaker 3>good high school team. H and uh, you know, we

1273
00:56:35.280 --> 00:56:37.079
<v Speaker 3>just didn't have it that last game they beat us.

1274
00:56:37.119 --> 00:56:38.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, we we put together a little video for

1275
00:56:39.119 --> 00:56:42.119
<v Speaker 2>Mike Mike Maxwell as he stepped aside, I wonder what

1276
00:56:42.159 --> 00:56:44.719
<v Speaker 2>your experience was like playing playing for coach Maxwell and

1277
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:46.079
<v Speaker 2>now that he's done a Bountiful high.

1278
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:50.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I loved it. I thought Coach Maxwell was awesome

1279
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:53.000
<v Speaker 3>back then. He was a great teacher, he was a

1280
00:56:53.039 --> 00:56:57.960
<v Speaker 3>great team guy. I loved the system that we ran

1281
00:56:58.039 --> 00:57:01.039
<v Speaker 3>at that time. And same as when you were their spences.

1282
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:03.760
<v Speaker 3>You're pressing the whole game, you're up and down, you're

1283
00:57:03.800 --> 00:57:06.760
<v Speaker 3>shooting threes, which back then, shooting the amount of threes

1284
00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:09.719
<v Speaker 3>that we shot was an outliner. Yeah, yeah, right, pull

1285
00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:12.239
<v Speaker 3>up threes on a fast break that's what we did. Yeah,

1286
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:14.840
<v Speaker 3>and uh so I loved it. And Mike's a great guy.

1287
00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:17.599
<v Speaker 2>It's funny with the modern day because we we're gonna

1288
00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:19.880
<v Speaker 2>go full Uncle Rico for a moment. Okay, because your

1289
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:22.880
<v Speaker 2>boy here said a record for three points shots made

1290
00:57:22.920 --> 00:57:23.280
<v Speaker 2>in a half.

1291
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I hit five against Leyton.

1292
00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.880
<v Speaker 2>It stood for like two years because now I think

1293
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:30.000
<v Speaker 2>at one point the record for threes made. I think

1294
00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:33.360
<v Speaker 2>it was wilbur who said it with nine for Bountiful

1295
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:34.920
<v Speaker 2>back in the day. And now you look at box scores,

1296
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>these kids are making nine, ten, eleven threes every single game.

1297
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:39.400
<v Speaker 1>The game has completely changed.

1298
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Every game, and they shoot it from anywhere. It was

1299
00:57:41.400 --> 00:57:44.000
<v Speaker 3>a terrible shot, right in some cases still is a

1300
00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 3>terrible shot.

1301
00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.000
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you know, yes, absolutely.

1302
00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 3>But you know they make thirty percent of them, and

1303
00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.239
<v Speaker 3>they think their world beaters sometimes for sure, because they're

1304
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:55.119
<v Speaker 3>making it from ten feet behind the three point line.

1305
00:57:55.159 --> 00:57:57.079
<v Speaker 2>And even if they bank it in, they're strutting back like,

1306
00:57:57.079 --> 00:57:59.199
<v Speaker 2>oh I meant to do that, And it's like ward ball.

1307
00:57:59.239 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 2>It's not like everybody plays that way. Now, you played

1308
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:04.679
<v Speaker 2>for Dave at b YU, Dave Rose, Yeah, what was it?

1309
00:58:04.719 --> 00:58:07.039
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I sent my son to Dave's camps for

1310
00:58:07.039 --> 00:58:08.880
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years. I went to BYU camps when

1311
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Roger Reid was was there coaching. What was your experience

1312
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:12.599
<v Speaker 2>like playing for Dave.

1313
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:16.719
<v Speaker 3>Coach Rose was awesome. I loved him. I had the opportunity.

1314
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:20.679
<v Speaker 3>I played in junior college first actually for John Judkins.

1315
00:58:20.960 --> 00:58:23.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh now to Dixie.

1316
00:58:22.920 --> 00:58:26.840
<v Speaker 3>Jutty was awesome. He was so fun and that he's

1317
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:30.519
<v Speaker 3>a great coach. And then going up to BYU. I

1318
00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 3>loved coach Rose back then. Once again, our style of

1319
00:58:33.360 --> 00:58:35.440
<v Speaker 3>play was so much different. We had Trent placed it

1320
00:58:35.480 --> 00:58:37.840
<v Speaker 3>and we had Keena Young in the post. So everything

1321
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:42.000
<v Speaker 3>we did half court wise was through the post because

1322
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:44.840
<v Speaker 3>we had some unbelievable post players.

1323
00:58:45.280 --> 00:58:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Was an NBA guy here, Yeah, but it was still up.

1324
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:49.559
<v Speaker 3>And down and we still you run and gun, you

1325
00:58:49.559 --> 00:58:53.199
<v Speaker 3>get the rebound. Dave Rice was the who's now at

1326
00:58:53.239 --> 00:58:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Sally Community College is that head coach? He was kind

1327
00:58:56.400 --> 00:58:59.639
<v Speaker 3>of the offensive coordinator force who came from UNLV and

1328
00:58:59.719 --> 00:59:03.039
<v Speaker 3>so it was early offense, run, open shot, you shoot

1329
00:59:03.039 --> 00:59:04.719
<v Speaker 3>at your open off the break, and if not, then

1330
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.039
<v Speaker 3>then we feed the post and work off of that.

1331
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:09.440
<v Speaker 3>But coach Row is awesome. He was a great motivator

1332
00:59:10.960 --> 00:59:14.639
<v Speaker 3>and and you know he did a great job for BYU.

1333
00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:17.320
<v Speaker 1>You played football and soccer Bountiful, I did. Okay, so

1334
00:59:17.360 --> 00:59:19.119
<v Speaker 1>you were a three three sport athlete.

1335
00:59:19.199 --> 00:59:22.800
<v Speaker 2>You have kids, Yeah, yes, So it's interesting now because

1336
00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 2>when also, as we go full on Uncle Rico, when

1337
00:59:26.039 --> 00:59:28.440
<v Speaker 2>I was young, it was baseball, it was lacrosse, it

1338
00:59:28.519 --> 00:59:31.719
<v Speaker 2>was football, it was basketball. I mean it dependent on

1339
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:34.559
<v Speaker 2>the seasons. Now, I feel like as you raise kids,

1340
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:36.840
<v Speaker 2>the pressure is to get them into the comp stuff

1341
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.119
<v Speaker 2>when they're like six or seven. Spend ten grand a year,

1342
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.320
<v Speaker 2>if not more, to make sure they're in this pipeline

1343
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:45.840
<v Speaker 2>to play one sport. You talk to a lot of

1344
00:59:45.880 --> 00:59:49.800
<v Speaker 2>college coaches, and coach Wit talks about they like the

1345
00:59:49.880 --> 00:59:51.079
<v Speaker 2>multi sport athletes.

1346
00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:51.440
<v Speaker 4>Right.

1347
00:59:51.880 --> 00:59:53.119
<v Speaker 1>Have you noticed a change?

1348
00:59:53.159 --> 00:59:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know how old your kids are,

1349
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:57.199
<v Speaker 2>but to kind of pressure them to play one sport,

1350
00:59:57.280 --> 00:59:58.840
<v Speaker 2>even if they only want to play high school.

1351
00:59:58.960 --> 01:00:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So my oldest is fifteen, he's a sophomore. Work's cross.

1352
01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:08.320
<v Speaker 3>Youngest is five. He's kind of going towards golf now,

1353
01:00:08.360 --> 01:00:11.760
<v Speaker 3>not the best basketball player, and he's really small sophomore anyways,

1354
01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:12.400
<v Speaker 3>ninety pounds.

1355
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:13.840
<v Speaker 1>I could put a golf club in his hand.

1356
01:00:13.960 --> 01:00:17.880
<v Speaker 3>But when we lived in Logan, and obviously Logan's a

1357
01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:21.039
<v Speaker 3>lot smaller than down here on the wasatch front. It

1358
01:00:21.199 --> 01:00:23.320
<v Speaker 3>was like, Okay, we're going to go trout for this

1359
01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Blue Sox team. And I was coaching his basketball team

1360
01:00:27.320 --> 01:00:31.119
<v Speaker 3>and he wanted to play soccer two and a really

1361
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:35.159
<v Speaker 3>competitive soccer team that was really good. And this baseball team, like,

1362
01:00:35.199 --> 01:00:36.840
<v Speaker 3>we're going to practice twice a week. We got double

1363
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.920
<v Speaker 3>headers every Saturday, and this has got to be your

1364
01:00:39.960 --> 01:00:41.280
<v Speaker 3>main parative. It's like, well, what if we want to

1365
01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:43.360
<v Speaker 3>play other sports? He's like, this is not your team.

1366
01:00:43.360 --> 01:00:46.400
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, man, that is so unfortunate for some

1367
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.840
<v Speaker 3>of these kids. I mean, because unless you're just the

1368
01:00:49.880 --> 01:00:53.039
<v Speaker 3>best athlete out there, like you got to pick when

1369
01:00:53.039 --> 01:00:55.880
<v Speaker 3>you're eight years old or nine or ten years old.

1370
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 3>And it's really unfortunate because playing multiple sports it helps

1371
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:02.079
<v Speaker 3>you to developed so much. Playing soccer and basketball, they're

1372
01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:07.320
<v Speaker 3>so similar in so many ways, and the feel, the spacing,

1373
01:01:07.480 --> 01:01:11.559
<v Speaker 3>the you know, the quickness. Yeah, basketball's footwork and a

1374
01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:14.599
<v Speaker 3>lot of obviously had that coordination where soccer's or just

1375
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:17.480
<v Speaker 3>your footwork, but they go hand in hand with each other,

1376
01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:19.800
<v Speaker 3>and so it's it's actually really unfortunate that they have

1377
01:01:19.840 --> 01:01:21.519
<v Speaker 3>to pick and they don't get the opportunities that we

1378
01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 3>had to be able to switch sports and actually not

1379
01:01:24.440 --> 01:01:25.440
<v Speaker 3>get burned out either.

1380
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:28.480
<v Speaker 2>That's a great point because you don't know what Look,

1381
01:01:28.559 --> 01:01:31.079
<v Speaker 2>you're eight, you only know your parents. You're lucky if

1382
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:32.639
<v Speaker 2>you don't pee the bed at now. You don't know

1383
01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:33.679
<v Speaker 2>what you like it eight.

1384
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And so Malcolm Gladwell kind.

1385
01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Of did this disservice to people with the outliers thirty

1386
01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:41.519
<v Speaker 2>thousand hour rule. Okay, because people view that as gospel

1387
01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:44.840
<v Speaker 2>that has been dispelled, and what's found now is yes

1388
01:01:44.880 --> 01:01:47.039
<v Speaker 2>you need reps and yes you need probably that amount

1389
01:01:47.039 --> 01:01:50.079
<v Speaker 2>of hours. But what Malcolm Gladwell didn't teach what we're

1390
01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:53.079
<v Speaker 2>learning now is the athlete has to love what the

1391
01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:56.159
<v Speaker 2>athlete does. So Tiger Woods is the best example, because

1392
01:01:56.159 --> 01:01:59.519
<v Speaker 2>there was always this feeling that Earle forced him to

1393
01:01:59.519 --> 01:02:02.360
<v Speaker 2>play golf Tiger If you read his document if you

1394
01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.440
<v Speaker 2>read his biography and watch the documentary, he loved golf

1395
01:02:05.440 --> 01:02:06.320
<v Speaker 2>from the time he was too.

1396
01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:07.760
<v Speaker 1>He that's all he wanted to do.

1397
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:10.239
<v Speaker 2>So what we see now because I coached my son's

1398
01:02:10.320 --> 01:02:12.320
<v Speaker 2>junior jazz team for a few years and the parents

1399
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:15.719
<v Speaker 2>are just the worst. These parents are forcing kids to

1400
01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 2>get their thirty thousand hours whether or not the kids

1401
01:02:18.639 --> 01:02:19.239
<v Speaker 2>like the sport.

1402
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:20.679
<v Speaker 1>And to your point, if.

1403
01:02:20.519 --> 01:02:22.400
<v Speaker 2>They don't like it, they're gonna get burned out. They're

1404
01:02:22.400 --> 01:02:23.519
<v Speaker 2>gonna want to do something else.

1405
01:02:23.639 --> 01:02:27.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's as I said, it's it's it's frustrating sometimes

1406
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:30.719
<v Speaker 3>as a parent too. And you know, for my kids,

1407
01:02:30.960 --> 01:02:33.280
<v Speaker 3>some of them, you know, it's like I want to

1408
01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:35.880
<v Speaker 3>play basketball. I'm like, hey, just so you know, like

1409
01:02:36.199 --> 01:02:37.960
<v Speaker 3>you don't have to play. Don't do it for me.

1410
01:02:38.440 --> 01:02:40.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't want you doing this for me because actually

1411
01:02:40.440 --> 01:02:42.440
<v Speaker 3>my life is a lot easier if you don't do it.

1412
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

1413
01:02:43.159 --> 01:02:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I have more time to golf myself, I

1414
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:48.000
<v Speaker 3>have more time to But if you want to do it,

1415
01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:50.000
<v Speaker 3>then I will be there to help you, support you,

1416
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:54.519
<v Speaker 3>train you, all those types of things and so. But

1417
01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:56.679
<v Speaker 3>but I wish we could go back in some ways.

1418
01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:57.679
<v Speaker 3>Sure because of that.

1419
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:00.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now you reference golf, and I'll give Blake a

1420
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:03.519
<v Speaker 2>little credit here because he was honest that you're a

1421
01:03:03.519 --> 01:03:05.239
<v Speaker 2>better player than he is now.

1422
01:03:05.239 --> 01:03:06.519
<v Speaker 1>He said he's improving now.

1423
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, So if you and Blake go head to head,

1424
01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:11.679
<v Speaker 2>what does that look like if you're just playing against

1425
01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:12.199
<v Speaker 2>each other.

1426
01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 1>On a golf course.

1427
01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, the way it is right now, we usually play

1428
01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:19.800
<v Speaker 3>just basically best ball. I would love to play strokes.

1429
01:03:19.840 --> 01:03:24.159
<v Speaker 3>He won't ever play strokes. Ok he's a nine and

1430
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:29.079
<v Speaker 3>a half handicap right now. Some days obviously it's with

1431
01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:34.320
<v Speaker 3>amateur golfers like us. You can go and you know,

1432
01:03:34.480 --> 01:03:37.599
<v Speaker 3>shoot even every once in a while and just kill

1433
01:03:37.599 --> 01:03:39.559
<v Speaker 3>it and then the next day you're shooting at ninety.

1434
01:03:40.719 --> 01:03:43.920
<v Speaker 3>But we play best ball. It's competitive. I give him

1435
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:47.119
<v Speaker 3>five or four to six strokes, depending on how it

1436
01:03:47.199 --> 01:03:52.239
<v Speaker 3>flows during that week, and it's usually fairly even. He

1437
01:03:52.360 --> 01:03:54.280
<v Speaker 3>got the best of me last year as far as

1438
01:03:54.320 --> 01:03:57.880
<v Speaker 3>money wise. This year, I'm up on him. If we

1439
01:03:57.880 --> 01:03:59.360
<v Speaker 3>played strokes, it wouldn't be close.

1440
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Now, that's what I was going to say.

1441
01:04:00.840 --> 01:04:02.880
<v Speaker 2>It feels like you're giving your older brother a little

1442
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:05.320
<v Speaker 2>bit of a break there, because what's your index right now?

1443
01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:07.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm a five point three round Okay.

1444
01:04:07.119 --> 01:04:09.639
<v Speaker 1>So I'm a seven six five to three? Is your stick?

1445
01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Where'd you like to play there? Are you a member anywhere?

1446
01:04:12.679 --> 01:04:13.679
<v Speaker 3>I'm a member at Oakridge?

1447
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Love Oakridge and.

1448
01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Oakridge is a phenomenal course. I think this this year

1449
01:04:17.920 --> 01:04:20.239
<v Speaker 3>is maybe the best shape that it's been in since.

1450
01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 3>I remember because my dad was a member when I

1451
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:24.800
<v Speaker 3>was growing up, and I didn't play very much golf

1452
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:25.199
<v Speaker 3>growing up.

1453
01:04:25.280 --> 01:04:26.679
<v Speaker 1>Neither did I thought it was boring.

1454
01:04:26.519 --> 01:04:28.960
<v Speaker 3>And I regret it. I was playing baseball and soccer

1455
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:33.280
<v Speaker 3>and football, so I never played golf. But it's unbelievable.

1456
01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:35.239
<v Speaker 3>I love the Logan Country Club too. I lived up

1457
01:04:35.280 --> 01:04:38.039
<v Speaker 3>there for thirteen years. So they've basically just redone the

1458
01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:40.519
<v Speaker 3>whole course up there, and it's unbelievable. The Junior, the

1459
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.639
<v Speaker 3>the stateium is there next year if they get it

1460
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:44.159
<v Speaker 3>all finished.

1461
01:04:44.280 --> 01:04:44.679
<v Speaker 4>Very nice.

1462
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:48.199
<v Speaker 2>So Blake does this sneaky thing where he pretends he's

1463
01:04:48.239 --> 01:04:51.960
<v Speaker 2>a youth fan in addition to a BYU fan, and look,

1464
01:04:52.559 --> 01:04:56.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like the old Michael Jordan line. Republicans buy sneakers too. Okay,

1465
01:04:56.280 --> 01:04:58.159
<v Speaker 2>So I understand you want to take care everybody. You

1466
01:04:58.199 --> 01:05:01.079
<v Speaker 2>guys work with coaches at the up. You're your b

1467
01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:04.159
<v Speaker 2>Why you blue though, Big Big Blake played football down there.

1468
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:06.280
<v Speaker 1>You know, my pops is a BYU basketball player.

1469
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:09.960
<v Speaker 2>So everything that I thought Utah football would be is

1470
01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:11.960
<v Speaker 2>taking place forty miles down south.

1471
01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Right now, Klanie's my guy a Rod.

1472
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:16.440
<v Speaker 2>They joined the show What do you make of this

1473
01:05:16.559 --> 01:05:18.119
<v Speaker 2>magical star for BYU football.

1474
01:05:19.400 --> 01:05:22.840
<v Speaker 3>It's very exciting actually for BYU, for their fans, for

1475
01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:29.079
<v Speaker 3>everything BYU right now, and it is Utah is really disappointing.

1476
01:05:30.159 --> 01:05:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I myself, Yes, I'm a BYU fan.

1477
01:05:34.800 --> 01:05:35.320
<v Speaker 11>Played there.

1478
01:05:36.679 --> 01:05:40.880
<v Speaker 3>I love the Witninghams though Kyle is you know, assault

1479
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:45.119
<v Speaker 3>of the Earth guy, and so we're we're Utah supporters.

1480
01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:46.800
<v Speaker 3>That's what I say. I'm a BYU fan, but I'm

1481
01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:49.960
<v Speaker 3>a Utah supporter. I like that, And but it is

1482
01:05:50.039 --> 01:05:52.480
<v Speaker 3>it is frustrating, kind of feels like Utah just isn't

1483
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:55.800
<v Speaker 3>meshing very well. Is that because the play calls? Is

1484
01:05:55.840 --> 01:05:59.719
<v Speaker 3>that just because one thing? Miscommunications between players? But at

1485
01:05:59.760 --> 01:06:03.000
<v Speaker 3>by you, Yeah, everything has just kind of come together

1486
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 3>and they talked a lot about it in the off season.

1487
01:06:05.199 --> 01:06:08.000
<v Speaker 3>We've worked harder. Everybody always says that, sure, we worked harder.

1488
01:06:08.039 --> 01:06:10.440
<v Speaker 3>We're as close as we're ever been where this where that,

1489
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.840
<v Speaker 3>But it's shown on the field right now. And the

1490
01:06:13.960 --> 01:06:17.079
<v Speaker 3>talent that they have that was so so last year

1491
01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:19.960
<v Speaker 3>and obviously they've got some more talent. Man, it has

1492
01:06:20.039 --> 01:06:22.519
<v Speaker 3>really shown and they obviously put the work in.

1493
01:06:22.599 --> 01:06:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been fun. I mean I always say because

1494
01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:26.599
<v Speaker 2>we're the home of the utes. But people always ask me,

1495
01:06:26.679 --> 01:06:29.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, who do you cheer for? And I say everybody.

1496
01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:32.639
<v Speaker 2>My job is better when everybody's winning. And I've got

1497
01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:35.039
<v Speaker 2>a dashboard I can show you segments I do. When

1498
01:06:35.079 --> 01:06:38.199
<v Speaker 2>BYU football wins, it's a rising tide because their fans

1499
01:06:38.199 --> 01:06:40.079
<v Speaker 2>come out and they listen to the radio and they

1500
01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:43.440
<v Speaker 2>read the newspaper. So I wish you taught football was better.

1501
01:06:43.480 --> 01:06:45.840
<v Speaker 2>But I'm thrilled the BYU football is doing this because

1502
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:49.360
<v Speaker 2>it actually maintains interest in the sport. One more question

1503
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:51.239
<v Speaker 2>about football, then, I want to talk about this GV

1504
01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.159
<v Speaker 2>eight and what you have going on at the dealerships.

1505
01:06:53.679 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 2>You reference coach Witt, who I.

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01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Believe played with your dad at BYU.

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01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:59.199
<v Speaker 3>They were there together, right, Yeah, Kyle was a fresh

1508
01:06:59.119 --> 01:07:04.880
<v Speaker 3>when my dad as a senior, and then Kyle's dad

1509
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:07.119
<v Speaker 3>was my dad's linebacker coach. My dad went on a

1510
01:07:07.119 --> 01:07:10.360
<v Speaker 3>mission after four years, came home and then coached Kyle

1511
01:07:10.559 --> 01:07:11.519
<v Speaker 3>as a grad assistant.

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01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Ah, that's right, so they're very close, very close. I

1513
01:07:14.360 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 2>really don't love if this is the end. I wish

1514
01:07:17.119 --> 01:07:18.840
<v Speaker 2>it was a different final chapter. I don't know if

1515
01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:20.159
<v Speaker 2>it is, but I just don't want to see him

1516
01:07:20.159 --> 01:07:20.639
<v Speaker 2>going out like this.

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01:07:20.920 --> 01:07:25.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. You always

1518
01:07:25.119 --> 01:07:26.960
<v Speaker 3>want to see people go on top that you have

1519
01:07:27.079 --> 01:07:31.199
<v Speaker 3>their back, you root for and uh and it is.

1520
01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:33.119
<v Speaker 3>I I hope they can kind of turn it around

1521
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:34.840
<v Speaker 3>against every team but b YU.

1522
01:07:36.440 --> 01:07:36.880
<v Speaker 11>For sure.

1523
01:07:37.480 --> 01:07:39.360
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I hope, I hope it doesn't end this

1524
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:43.320
<v Speaker 3>way because Kyle's been so great for so long for

1525
01:07:43.480 --> 01:07:47.199
<v Speaker 3>the university, for the state, for his players, you know,

1526
01:07:47.519 --> 01:07:49.760
<v Speaker 3>and and so hopefully they can they can turn it around.

1527
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:52.639
<v Speaker 2>What sort of parallels if any? Because your dad was

1528
01:07:52.639 --> 01:07:54.960
<v Speaker 2>a great athlete, you blake, there are.

1529
01:07:54.880 --> 01:07:57.519
<v Speaker 1>Seven girls and three boys, because you.

1530
01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Guys used to host family dinners for our basket team,

1531
01:08:00.519 --> 01:08:02.559
<v Speaker 2>and I would I would always get your dad's hire

1532
01:08:02.599 --> 01:08:04.639
<v Speaker 2>because I'd walk in and I'd pretend your mom was

1533
01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:06.079
<v Speaker 2>one of the daughters. I'd say, oh, it's nice to

1534
01:08:06.119 --> 01:08:07.679
<v Speaker 2>have you know, your oldest daughter here, like you know,

1535
01:08:07.800 --> 01:08:10.400
<v Speaker 2>and your dad, which you know, so spending a bunch

1536
01:08:10.400 --> 01:08:11.679
<v Speaker 2>of time up at the house back in the day.

1537
01:08:11.719 --> 01:08:14.760
<v Speaker 2>Obviously your parents are salted these people. But your dad's

1538
01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:18.039
<v Speaker 2>an athlete, you blake, like you're all athletes? Are there

1539
01:08:18.079 --> 01:08:20.560
<v Speaker 2>parallels to running a business as far as lessons you

1540
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:23.399
<v Speaker 2>learned coming up playing sports, If that makes sense.

1541
01:08:23.279 --> 01:08:28.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, one hundred percent. I think your mindset, your winning mindset,

1542
01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:31.239
<v Speaker 3>is your growth mindset as opposed to you know, a

1543
01:08:31.319 --> 01:08:34.119
<v Speaker 3>fixed mindset is we got to go from here to here.

1544
01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:35.960
<v Speaker 3>How are we going to do that? Setting plans. That's

1545
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:39.960
<v Speaker 3>all what sports are about, obviously, and then the discipline

1546
01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:44.039
<v Speaker 3>that it takes. You got to have discipline to do

1547
01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:46.439
<v Speaker 3>the right things over and over and over again to

1548
01:08:46.479 --> 01:08:49.079
<v Speaker 3>be successful in business. We're fourth generation in the car

1549
01:08:49.119 --> 01:08:51.880
<v Speaker 3>business right now. Yeah, yeah, so grateful for those that

1550
01:08:51.920 --> 01:08:55.039
<v Speaker 3>have gone before us and given us the opportunities and

1551
01:08:55.039 --> 01:08:57.279
<v Speaker 3>and uh, you know there's not a lot of businesses

1552
01:08:57.279 --> 01:08:59.279
<v Speaker 3>that last one hundred years. That's not because of Blake

1553
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:01.960
<v Speaker 3>and I. That's because of those that have gone before us.

1554
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Now we're trying not to screw it up. Sure, And

1555
01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:07.039
<v Speaker 3>so the discipline that it takes to in sports get

1556
01:09:07.119 --> 01:09:11.039
<v Speaker 3>up early, work out, get your shots up, eat right,

1557
01:09:11.279 --> 01:09:14.520
<v Speaker 3>all those things translated into business. Just different metrics that

1558
01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:15.479
<v Speaker 3>you're looking at.

1559
01:09:15.439 --> 01:09:17.479
<v Speaker 1>It were really coming up on one hundred years or

1560
01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:18.279
<v Speaker 1>have we passed it?

1561
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Next year? Is our one hundred year?

1562
01:09:20.680 --> 01:09:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's insane to think about, you guys, have been

1563
01:09:22.960 --> 01:09:24.880
<v Speaker 2>doing this in the state for one hundred years, all right.

1564
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:28.199
<v Speaker 2>So a few months back and we'll end on this.

1565
01:09:28.319 --> 01:09:29.960
<v Speaker 2>But a few months back I was driving around. I

1566
01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:31.800
<v Speaker 2>had an A six that I loved. I loved the car,

1567
01:09:31.920 --> 01:09:32.239
<v Speaker 2>had it.

1568
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:33.000
<v Speaker 1>For a couple of years.

1569
01:09:33.399 --> 01:09:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately, a very eager Utah college student came barely out

1570
01:09:37.239 --> 01:09:40.159
<v Speaker 2>of her driveway and branded inside of my car. It

1571
01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:42.439
<v Speaker 2>totaled my A six, which she had been good right.

1572
01:09:43.079 --> 01:09:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Luckily she was at fault. Insurance took care of it.

1573
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:47.239
<v Speaker 2>But I called Blake. I'm like, look, I need a car,

1574
01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:51.239
<v Speaker 2>and I said it's totaled. I need a car, like

1575
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:53.760
<v Speaker 2>next week, right, So he said have you heard about

1576
01:09:53.760 --> 01:09:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Genesis And I said no, and he said it's a

1577
01:09:55.520 --> 01:09:58.159
<v Speaker 2>Hundai line. And I was like, well, I don't know, man,

1578
01:09:58.279 --> 01:10:00.319
<v Speaker 2>and he said, well, just come down let's talk about it.

1579
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Then he helped me understand, like, so Hyundai is doing

1580
01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:07.520
<v Speaker 2>with Genesis what Toyota did with Lexus. Correct, So essentially

1581
01:10:07.560 --> 01:10:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Genesis is the luxury brand for Hyundai.

1582
01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:12.399
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And within five minutes he put me in the

1583
01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:12.760
<v Speaker 1>G eighty.

1584
01:10:12.760 --> 01:10:15.079
<v Speaker 2>I was like, dude, this is the one, right, And

1585
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.680
<v Speaker 2>so I drove around the G eighty and then Blake

1586
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.239
<v Speaker 2>had me turned it in for the winter, and now

1587
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:22.079
<v Speaker 2>I have the GV eighty, which is the suv.

1588
01:10:22.159 --> 01:10:24.079
<v Speaker 1>As we talked about off Er, it's an awesome car.

1589
01:10:24.600 --> 01:10:26.880
<v Speaker 2>So essentially, the way I describe it is it feels

1590
01:10:26.920 --> 01:10:29.880
<v Speaker 2>like you're driving any luxury brand that comes your mind

1591
01:10:29.920 --> 01:10:33.399
<v Speaker 2>when I say luxury car. The Genesis feels just like

1592
01:10:33.479 --> 01:10:35.960
<v Speaker 2>any one of them. And I come from a BMW family,

1593
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Like I've driven, you know, top shelf cars. This feels

1594
01:10:39.279 --> 01:10:42.640
<v Speaker 2>like you're driving that, but the price point is insanely lower.

1595
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:44.720
<v Speaker 1>So let's start with the Genesis. What do you want

1596
01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:45.479
<v Speaker 1>our listeners to know?

1597
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:49.159
<v Speaker 3>So, yeah, Genesis is Hyundai's luxury brand. Just as you

1598
01:10:49.199 --> 01:10:54.079
<v Speaker 3>said as Lexuss to Toyota. It became a brand officially

1599
01:10:54.119 --> 01:10:58.920
<v Speaker 3>in twenty nineteen itself. The way the company is structured

1600
01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:01.880
<v Speaker 3>is Genesis is one hundred percent its own brand, and

1601
01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:05.399
<v Speaker 3>the cars that they build are top notch. As you said,

1602
01:11:05.479 --> 01:11:08.800
<v Speaker 3>you sit in the car, you fill it, the technology

1603
01:11:08.880 --> 01:11:11.439
<v Speaker 3>in it. Many of their cars over the last couple

1604
01:11:11.479 --> 01:11:13.880
<v Speaker 3>of years, whether it's the GV seventy, the small suv,

1605
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:17.920
<v Speaker 3>the g seventy, the GV sixty, which is their electric

1606
01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.920
<v Speaker 3>small suv, they've all won Motor Trend Car of the Year,

1607
01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:25.439
<v Speaker 3>Motor Trend Suv of the Year, and so the tech

1608
01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:29.880
<v Speaker 3>that you get, the quality, fit and finish, and then

1609
01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:32.079
<v Speaker 3>the price point. There's nothing better out there.

1610
01:11:32.039 --> 01:11:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah than that. Yeah, I agree.

1611
01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:35.880
<v Speaker 2>So I'm telling you, if you're in the market for

1612
01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:38.880
<v Speaker 2>a new car and you want luxury, you want a

1613
01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:41.479
<v Speaker 2>luxury experience with a much better price point, check out

1614
01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:42.479
<v Speaker 2>Genesis of Linden.

1615
01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:45.079
<v Speaker 1>It's a luxury brand for the Murdocado team.

1616
01:11:45.159 --> 01:11:47.840
<v Speaker 2>All right, before I set you loose seven locations, the

1617
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:50.079
<v Speaker 2>one hundred year anniversary is coming up. What else do

1618
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:51.600
<v Speaker 2>you want our listeners to know about what you have

1619
01:11:51.640 --> 01:11:53.359
<v Speaker 2>going on at all your locations ben.

1620
01:11:53.760 --> 01:11:56.319
<v Speaker 3>Obviously coming in the end of the year, whether it's

1621
01:11:56.359 --> 01:11:59.000
<v Speaker 3>a Chevy truck, a GMC truck, whether you want an

1622
01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:06.720
<v Speaker 3>electric vehicle, whether it's Chevy, Cadillac, Volkswagen, Hyundai, Genesis, all

1623
01:12:06.760 --> 01:12:10.319
<v Speaker 3>of those things obviously major discounts right now. And so

1624
01:12:10.920 --> 01:12:13.039
<v Speaker 3>we can be your one stop shop. And as far

1625
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:15.239
<v Speaker 3>as used cars are concerned, we can. We can get

1626
01:12:15.359 --> 01:12:17.720
<v Speaker 3>fined sell you any use cards you're looking for out there.

1627
01:12:17.800 --> 01:12:20.159
<v Speaker 1>That's the way to go. Website real quick. For say

1628
01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:21.640
<v Speaker 1>you lose there's.

1629
01:12:21.479 --> 01:12:23.439
<v Speaker 3>A couple, but the Murdoc Auto Team dot.

1630
01:12:23.279 --> 01:12:25.399
<v Speaker 2>Com Murdoch Audo Team dot com. Yeah, Ben, good to

1631
01:12:25.399 --> 01:12:28.239
<v Speaker 2>see you man. Let's hope YU keeps it up and

1632
01:12:28.239 --> 01:12:29.119
<v Speaker 2>hopefully Kyle can.

1633
01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Figure it out. All right, that's right, thanks. Ben's all right,

1634
01:12:30.840 --> 01:12:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Ben Murdock.

1635
01:12:31.399 --> 01:12:33.279
<v Speaker 2>I am telling you I've been in this GV eighty

1636
01:12:33.319 --> 01:12:36.560
<v Speaker 2>for about two months now, and it is it's awesome

1637
01:12:36.600 --> 01:12:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and the price point is great.

1638
01:12:37.880 --> 01:12:38.319
<v Speaker 1>Check it out.

1639
01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:40.600
<v Speaker 2>It's Genesis of Linden. It's the luxury brand for the

1640
01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Murdoch Audo Team. They have seven locations serving the Oasatch front.

1641
01:12:44.319 --> 01:12:47.880
<v Speaker 2>In addition to Genesis, Murdoch Auto Team has three Hundai stores,

1642
01:12:47.880 --> 01:12:51.720
<v Speaker 2>two Chevy stores, one GM store Volkswagen. Check it out

1643
01:12:51.760 --> 01:12:55.399
<v Speaker 2>Logan Lynden, Murray woods Cross. Murdoch has a dealership near you.

1644
01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:58.840
<v Speaker 2>They've been the number one Hundai dealer for nineteen years

1645
01:12:58.920 --> 01:13:00.319
<v Speaker 2>running and has Ben just reference.

1646
01:13:00.359 --> 01:13:01.920
<v Speaker 1>They've been in business for one hundred years.

1647
01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:04.319
<v Speaker 2>So check it out. Tell me you heard it on

1648
01:13:04.439 --> 01:13:06.119
<v Speaker 2>the drive with Spence. Check its telling me you heard

1649
01:13:06.119 --> 01:13:08.399
<v Speaker 2>Spence talking about the GV eighty or the G eighty

1650
01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and gone down to that luxury spot. It is the

1651
01:13:12.479 --> 01:13:15.359
<v Speaker 2>Genesis of Lyndon. Check him out online and they'll hook

1652
01:13:15.399 --> 01:13:15.760
<v Speaker 2>you up.

1653
01:13:15.640 --> 01:13:16.319
<v Speaker 1>With a great deal.

1654
01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you, it feels like you're driving any of

1655
01:13:18.560 --> 01:13:21.199
<v Speaker 2>the high end brands, but it's like forty fifty thousand

1656
01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:25.399
<v Speaker 2>dollars less out with my good friends at Genesis of Lindon.

1657
01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:29.199
<v Speaker 12>This is Neil Smith, former president and GM of the

1658
01:13:29.199 --> 01:13:31.800
<v Speaker 12>New York Rangers and the New York Islanders. Join me

1659
01:13:31.920 --> 01:13:35.239
<v Speaker 12>and my co host Vic Morn for our podcast NHL

1660
01:13:35.319 --> 01:13:38.960
<v Speaker 12>Wrap Around for all the important news and views around

1661
01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:39.640
<v Speaker 12>the NHL.

1662
01:13:40.319 --> 01:13:44.159
<v Speaker 2>A little Neil diamon on a Wednesday. Wow, wasn't expecting this.

1663
01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Nothing wrong with it, though. We're going to get back

1664
01:13:46.920 --> 01:13:50.920
<v Speaker 2>to little college football later on and some NBA as

1665
01:13:50.960 --> 01:13:54.199
<v Speaker 2>the Jazz are starting tonight. But let's do a little NHL.

1666
01:13:54.239 --> 01:13:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Let's do a little Utah Hockey Club. You just heard

1667
01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:58.119
<v Speaker 2>his voice there in the intro. It's great to have

1668
01:13:58.199 --> 01:14:00.399
<v Speaker 2>Neil Smith back on the program.

1669
01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:02.800
<v Speaker 1>On a Wednesday. Neil, Happy Wednesday, sir.

1670
01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:03.239
<v Speaker 4>How are you.

1671
01:14:04.119 --> 01:14:08.159
<v Speaker 11>I'm I'm great. I was at the game last night

1672
01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:11.840
<v Speaker 11>and then trying to keep track of fifteen more on

1673
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:13.760
<v Speaker 11>my phone because last night, as you know, it was

1674
01:14:13.800 --> 01:14:16.960
<v Speaker 11>a sixteen. Every single team in the league playing last night.

1675
01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:19.560
<v Speaker 2>That's right, that's right. I was actually going to ask you,

1676
01:14:19.640 --> 01:14:22.920
<v Speaker 2>is that is that a new initiative for the Frozen Fury?

1677
01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:25.000
<v Speaker 2>I believe they called it, Is that a new initiative

1678
01:14:25.000 --> 01:14:25.600
<v Speaker 2>for the league?

1679
01:14:26.359 --> 01:14:29.840
<v Speaker 11>The Frozen Frenzy? And I think it's yeah. I think

1680
01:14:30.079 --> 01:14:33.439
<v Speaker 11>I think they do it in conjunction with the ESPN,

1681
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:36.239
<v Speaker 11>and they staggered the times. They start them at six

1682
01:14:36.319 --> 01:14:38.880
<v Speaker 11>pm Eastern and run them all the way through till

1683
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:42.239
<v Speaker 11>eleven o'clock at night, that you know, starting every fifteen minutes.

1684
01:14:43.439 --> 01:14:45.039
<v Speaker 11>I think it's just done once a year, and I

1685
01:14:45.079 --> 01:14:49.920
<v Speaker 11>think that in conjunction with with ESPN. But you know,

1686
01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:54.039
<v Speaker 11>it's it's hard to night. I got to keep track

1687
01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:56.920
<v Speaker 11>of sixteen games going on, no I can imagine.

1688
01:14:56.960 --> 01:14:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I can imagine.

1689
01:14:57.800 --> 01:15:00.600
<v Speaker 2>So we'll start with our local club and then we'll

1690
01:15:00.600 --> 01:15:02.960
<v Speaker 2>pan out a little bit from a thirty thousand foot

1691
01:15:03.000 --> 01:15:05.039
<v Speaker 2>view to get your thoughts on the start of the season.

1692
01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:07.439
<v Speaker 2>We've got to talk about Winnipeg. They can't lose at

1693
01:15:07.439 --> 01:15:09.479
<v Speaker 2>this point. But really the.

1694
01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:11.680
<v Speaker 1>First game, and I've watched all of them.

1695
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I was there for the opening night and the Devils

1696
01:15:14.640 --> 01:15:17.319
<v Speaker 2>did blank the Utah Hockey Club. But last night they

1697
01:15:17.439 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 2>just looked like they were over their skis a little

1698
01:15:19.479 --> 01:15:22.880
<v Speaker 2>bit as they got smoked pretty good four zero by

1699
01:15:22.880 --> 01:15:23.439
<v Speaker 2>the Senator.

1700
01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:25.720
<v Speaker 1>So give me your thoughts on both the.

1701
01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Start of the season so far and what we saw

1702
01:15:27.760 --> 01:15:29.960
<v Speaker 2>last night is the Utah Hockey Club suffered a four

1703
01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:30.960
<v Speaker 2>zero loss.

1704
01:15:31.279 --> 01:15:33.720
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I think their start has been has been real good.

1705
01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:35.680
<v Speaker 11>I think last night they laid an egg. But I

1706
01:15:35.720 --> 01:15:39.439
<v Speaker 11>think Connor Ingram letting in four goals and nine shots

1707
01:15:40.039 --> 01:15:43.600
<v Speaker 11>really put them in a hole. And so you can

1708
01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:45.560
<v Speaker 11>start with that. And I don't want to throw all

1709
01:15:45.560 --> 01:15:48.640
<v Speaker 11>the blame on the goaltender, but he can't allow four

1710
01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:53.039
<v Speaker 11>goals on nine shots, and so In came to Milica

1711
01:15:53.319 --> 01:15:55.439
<v Speaker 11>and did a good job after that. He didn't let

1712
01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:58.880
<v Speaker 11>anything in. So I think that was just, you know,

1713
01:15:58.960 --> 01:16:01.479
<v Speaker 11>as I said, they just laid and egg. They've played

1714
01:16:01.479 --> 01:16:06.079
<v Speaker 11>well against Boston. The two to one overtime win was

1715
01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:11.159
<v Speaker 11>really good. And you know, they they had a loss

1716
01:16:11.239 --> 01:16:16.239
<v Speaker 11>in Anaheim five for and overtime, but they still got

1717
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:18.880
<v Speaker 11>a point out of that. So the you know, the

1718
01:16:19.000 --> 01:16:22.399
<v Speaker 11>only game that they haven't since I was on last

1719
01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:24.920
<v Speaker 11>time that they haven't got a point in was last night.

1720
01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.399
<v Speaker 2>They're there fourth in the in the central and you know,

1721
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:32.600
<v Speaker 2>it's been a it was a super super fast start.

1722
01:16:32.680 --> 01:16:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Then they've leveled out a little bit with the dynamic

1723
01:16:35.800 --> 01:16:38.279
<v Speaker 2>of how young the team is. Neo, would you tell

1724
01:16:38.319 --> 01:16:40.720
<v Speaker 2>our hockey fans out this way to probably expect the

1725
01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:42.560
<v Speaker 2>season that will have and flow a little bit like

1726
01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:43.319
<v Speaker 2>it has so far.

1727
01:16:45.119 --> 01:16:46.239
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think it is.

1728
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:48.760
<v Speaker 11>And you know, I was today when I read the

1729
01:16:48.760 --> 01:16:52.760
<v Speaker 11>news about Jersey and Mary Marino not being able to

1730
01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:55.399
<v Speaker 11>come be back in the lineup for a number of months.

1731
01:16:55.479 --> 01:17:00.680
<v Speaker 11>That's scary because those two right handed defensemen are you know,

1732
01:17:02.000 --> 01:17:04.520
<v Speaker 11>in the top six obviously. And now you've got to

1733
01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:06.399
<v Speaker 11>go down to the Miners, and I think they're going

1734
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:10.039
<v Speaker 11>to call up a twenty year old kid, six foot

1735
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:15.640
<v Speaker 11>seven defenseman from the Miners whose name is escaping me.

1736
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.960
<v Speaker 11>I knew it ten minutes ago and I've forgotten now.

1737
01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Maverick lamarrea Maverick Lamaro.

1738
01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:24.319
<v Speaker 11>That's right, They're going to bring him up. He's a

1739
01:17:24.359 --> 01:17:27.119
<v Speaker 11>twenty year old, he's he was the first round pick

1740
01:17:27.199 --> 01:17:31.279
<v Speaker 11>for them for the for the former Arizona Coyotes late

1741
01:17:31.319 --> 01:17:34.840
<v Speaker 11>in the first round. But he'll be a big body

1742
01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:38.079
<v Speaker 11>out there and he'll he'll do his best to fill

1743
01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:41.159
<v Speaker 11>in for these guys. But when when you lose defense,

1744
01:17:41.199 --> 01:17:44.039
<v Speaker 11>when it's a big hole, they're lucky. They when I

1745
01:17:44.079 --> 01:17:47.119
<v Speaker 11>say they're lucky, they're smart. They signed Bortuso, who's a veteran,

1746
01:17:47.319 --> 01:17:49.520
<v Speaker 11>won a Stanley Cup with Saint Louis, so he's up.

1747
01:17:49.680 --> 01:17:53.399
<v Speaker 11>He can certainly put in some minutes. So that's going

1748
01:17:53.439 --> 01:17:57.000
<v Speaker 11>to be good the season for a team like this.

1749
01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:00.000
<v Speaker 11>For every team ebbs and flows, but for this team

1750
01:18:00.079 --> 01:18:02.279
<v Speaker 11>in particular, because they've got some of the young guys,

1751
01:18:02.800 --> 01:18:05.560
<v Speaker 11>it might you might have to suffer through a losing

1752
01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:07.920
<v Speaker 11>streak and then a big winning streak and so on.

1753
01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:10.760
<v Speaker 11>But I really think from what I've seen of them,

1754
01:18:10.760 --> 01:18:14.279
<v Speaker 11>and I said this Tea Spence in the offseason, I said,

1755
01:18:14.479 --> 01:18:16.640
<v Speaker 11>I think you should expect them to be fighting for

1756
01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 11>a wildcard spot. Well, I'm even stronger about that now.

1757
01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:26.960
<v Speaker 11>I think that Utah has a chance to be definitely

1758
01:18:26.960 --> 01:18:30.119
<v Speaker 11>in the playoffs this year. So I'm looking for them.

1759
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:33.039
<v Speaker 11>I would be disappointed if they were on the outside

1760
01:18:33.039 --> 01:18:37.199
<v Speaker 11>looking in without having at least, you know, scratched the

1761
01:18:37.279 --> 01:18:39.800
<v Speaker 11>surface of the of the wild cards. I think they're

1762
01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:42.000
<v Speaker 11>going to get a wildcard spot though. That's what I

1763
01:18:42.039 --> 01:18:42.960
<v Speaker 11>really do think.

1764
01:18:43.600 --> 01:18:45.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's exciting to hear. I hope you're right.

1765
01:18:45.279 --> 01:18:47.960
<v Speaker 2>We love a little playoff hockey, little Stanley Cup action.

1766
01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:50.920
<v Speaker 2>First year on the market, so Neil, they scored twenty

1767
01:18:50.920 --> 01:18:53.920
<v Speaker 2>two goals, that's good for third in the Central Division,

1768
01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:57.319
<v Speaker 2>but they've allowed twenty four, which is good for second

1769
01:18:57.399 --> 01:19:00.239
<v Speaker 2>to last. So they're scoring at a high clip, but

1770
01:19:00.319 --> 01:19:02.399
<v Speaker 2>their leaking goals on the back end. And one of

1771
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:04.520
<v Speaker 2>the things that as far as what I read, I

1772
01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:07.560
<v Speaker 2>didn't watch a ton of Coyotes hockey last year, apologies,

1773
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:10.199
<v Speaker 2>but part of what I read with season previews and

1774
01:19:10.239 --> 01:19:13.720
<v Speaker 2>listening to people that know the club kind of outline

1775
01:19:13.760 --> 01:19:15.880
<v Speaker 2>that that's what they struggled with a year ago. High

1776
01:19:15.880 --> 01:19:19.680
<v Speaker 2>powered offense, but a defense that forced Connor Ingram to

1777
01:19:19.720 --> 01:19:22.159
<v Speaker 2>stand on his head to try to make miracles happen.

1778
01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:25.720
<v Speaker 2>What do you attribute their defensive issues to the most?

1779
01:19:25.840 --> 01:19:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Is it the you know, the Jersey and Marino injuries.

1780
01:19:29.199 --> 01:19:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Because they bring in Michael Sergachev, they're bringing a couple

1781
01:19:31.439 --> 01:19:35.439
<v Speaker 2>of other defensemen in the offseason. They utilized their cap

1782
01:19:35.479 --> 01:19:38.399
<v Speaker 2>space to go defense, and they utilized their draft assets

1783
01:19:38.439 --> 01:19:41.279
<v Speaker 2>to go offense, but it has not worked defensively.

1784
01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:42.279
<v Speaker 1>What do you see there.

1785
01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:46.319
<v Speaker 11>Well, you go back to the two injuries. For sure,

1786
01:19:46.520 --> 01:19:51.960
<v Speaker 11>you got Sergachev who's there, who's a really dynamic player

1787
01:19:52.000 --> 01:19:54.680
<v Speaker 11>on defense, but he is going to cost you from

1788
01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:58.000
<v Speaker 11>time to time being weaked offensively. And you go back

1789
01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:00.399
<v Speaker 11>over these three games they just played this past week

1790
01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:07.239
<v Speaker 11>that the including the the Leo Carlson overtime goal in Anaheim,

1791
01:20:07.840 --> 01:20:12.720
<v Speaker 11>where you know, Serghev was badly beaten. So I you know,

1792
01:20:12.920 --> 01:20:14.560
<v Speaker 11>but that's going to happen with him because he's a

1793
01:20:14.600 --> 01:20:18.680
<v Speaker 11>high risk, high reward type guy. I think Connor Ingram's

1794
01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:21.199
<v Speaker 11>got to play better than he has played as of

1795
01:20:21.279 --> 01:20:25.720
<v Speaker 11>late because you can't allow, as I said before against Ottawa,

1796
01:20:26.359 --> 01:20:28.600
<v Speaker 11>four goals on nine shots, You're not going to win

1797
01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:31.880
<v Speaker 11>any games with that. Now, again I'm not trying to

1798
01:20:31.880 --> 01:20:34.640
<v Speaker 11>put it all on one guy, but the goaltender is

1799
01:20:34.680 --> 01:20:37.039
<v Speaker 11>your last line of defense, and he has to be

1800
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:41.319
<v Speaker 11>at least in the NHL a nine hundred save percentage,

1801
01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:44.960
<v Speaker 11>and Connor Ingram is not at nine hundred save percentage.

1802
01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:47.680
<v Speaker 11>She's in the eight hundreds. So he's got to get

1803
01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:48.359
<v Speaker 11>his game up.

1804
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:52.359
<v Speaker 2>So before we move on to some big picture NHL topics,

1805
01:20:52.399 --> 01:20:54.560
<v Speaker 2>I was asked this question, I do a TV hit

1806
01:20:54.640 --> 01:20:57.239
<v Speaker 2>here in the market on a weekly basis, and now

1807
01:20:57.279 --> 01:20:59.560
<v Speaker 2>of course with hockey here. Believe it or not, I'm

1808
01:20:59.600 --> 01:21:02.359
<v Speaker 2>the one they ask hockey questions to wrong dude, But

1809
01:21:02.399 --> 01:21:03.359
<v Speaker 2>I do the best I can.

1810
01:21:03.399 --> 01:21:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Follow the sport.

1811
01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:07.279
<v Speaker 2>So they kind of they asked me, like, what's the

1812
01:21:07.359 --> 01:21:10.840
<v Speaker 2>personality of this club through the early parts of the

1813
01:21:10.880 --> 01:21:14.079
<v Speaker 2>season with what we've seen so far? Is it reasonable

1814
01:21:14.119 --> 01:21:17.479
<v Speaker 2>to expect, you know, high powered offensive club that can

1815
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:21.199
<v Speaker 2>really score goals in bunches and continues to struggle on defense.

1816
01:21:21.239 --> 01:21:23.720
<v Speaker 2>What would you what's your response if I asked you

1817
01:21:23.760 --> 01:21:25.520
<v Speaker 2>what's the personality of this club so far?

1818
01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:30.039
<v Speaker 11>Well, I think it's an exciting offensive team, and they're

1819
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:34.520
<v Speaker 11>going to have to start to play a lot more responsibly,

1820
01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:40.960
<v Speaker 11>especially because they've lost two veteran defensemens. So it's a

1821
01:21:41.079 --> 01:21:43.800
<v Speaker 11>very exciting team. They love to play, run and gun.

1822
01:21:44.640 --> 01:21:48.439
<v Speaker 11>They score a lot of goals, but they can't you know, obviously,

1823
01:21:48.479 --> 01:21:51.079
<v Speaker 11>they got to get less scored on them than they score,

1824
01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:53.560
<v Speaker 11>and so they're going to have to tighten the thing

1825
01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:56.319
<v Speaker 11>up defensively, and I think play a lot more disciplined

1826
01:21:56.880 --> 01:21:59.520
<v Speaker 11>with these injuries that they have, and as I said,

1827
01:21:59.560 --> 01:22:02.960
<v Speaker 11>and their goaltenders have to step up because they are

1828
01:22:03.039 --> 01:22:06.199
<v Speaker 11>going to get more scoring chances when you've got injuries

1829
01:22:06.199 --> 01:22:08.159
<v Speaker 11>on defense, it's just a fact of life.

1830
01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:11.840
<v Speaker 2>Do you think they're deep enough to survive a season

1831
01:22:11.880 --> 01:22:15.880
<v Speaker 2>where injuries are certainly commonplace with a sport like this,

1832
01:22:16.239 --> 01:22:19.159
<v Speaker 2>because certainly top end with Clayton Keller and Dylan Gunther

1833
01:22:19.279 --> 01:22:22.079
<v Speaker 2>and Logan Cooley, Nick Smaltz has seven assists.

1834
01:22:22.119 --> 01:22:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, their top end guys are playing

1835
01:22:24.279 --> 01:22:24.960
<v Speaker 1>really well.

1836
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Are they deep enough in your opinion, to survive the

1837
01:22:28.079 --> 01:22:31.079
<v Speaker 2>long season or do you think there's something going on

1838
01:22:31.159 --> 01:22:34.239
<v Speaker 2>with Bill Armstrong in the front office that they've got

1839
01:22:34.319 --> 01:22:36.119
<v Speaker 2>like eight and a half mil in cap space and

1840
01:22:36.159 --> 01:22:39.199
<v Speaker 2>a bevy of draft picks and capital to play with.

1841
01:22:39.279 --> 01:22:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you anticipate potentially any additions or do you like

1842
01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:42.760
<v Speaker 2>their depth as it is?

1843
01:22:44.279 --> 01:22:44.479
<v Speaker 4>Well?

1844
01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:47.239
<v Speaker 11>I think that the GM is always looking to try

1845
01:22:47.279 --> 01:22:52.439
<v Speaker 11>to improve his team, make his team have more depth

1846
01:22:52.680 --> 01:22:57.560
<v Speaker 11>and stronger and be able to withstand injuries, for sure,

1847
01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:02.159
<v Speaker 11>And I'm sure Doug Armstrong's doing that. Sorry, Doug arm

1848
01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:04.720
<v Speaker 11>I always do that, don't I see Doug arm Rest,

1849
01:23:05.640 --> 01:23:08.760
<v Speaker 11>And I'm sure he's doing that to try to bolster's team.

1850
01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:11.680
<v Speaker 11>You can never have enough defense. And that's I mean,

1851
01:23:11.720 --> 01:23:14.720
<v Speaker 11>we're seeing it already this year with those two guys out.

1852
01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:17.640
<v Speaker 11>So yeah, do I think they're deep enough. I think

1853
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:20.199
<v Speaker 11>they're deep enough. Every team's going to get hit with injuries.

1854
01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:25.720
<v Speaker 11>This is a good young team. I do think they

1855
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:28.319
<v Speaker 11>are deep enough. But again, they're going to have to

1856
01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:31.760
<v Speaker 11>strengthen the team up defensively and tighten it up and

1857
01:23:31.800 --> 01:23:36.960
<v Speaker 11>be even more responsible now than ever because of the injuries.

1858
01:23:37.760 --> 01:23:41.239
<v Speaker 2>So Colorado rolls into town nil on Friday, and there's

1859
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:44.239
<v Speaker 2>a lot of buzz around this game because regionally, there's

1860
01:23:44.319 --> 01:23:48.279
<v Speaker 2>like this natural potential rivalry fit. In my opinion, rivalries

1861
01:23:48.279 --> 01:23:50.920
<v Speaker 2>are made in the playoffs, and the Abs started out horribly,

1862
01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:53.479
<v Speaker 2>but they've rided the ship as of late. They've won

1863
01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:56.159
<v Speaker 2>three straight over the Ducks, the Sharks, and the Kraken,

1864
01:23:56.800 --> 01:23:58.520
<v Speaker 2>and the Abs are the favorite to win here in

1865
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:00.159
<v Speaker 2>Salt Lake. Tell us about this Ava.

1866
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Lance team, What do we what do you? What do

1867
01:24:01.319 --> 01:24:03.159
<v Speaker 1>you expect them to see coming up on Friday night?

1868
01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:08.119
<v Speaker 11>Well, where they've really struggled as in goal they they

1869
01:24:08.159 --> 01:24:10.960
<v Speaker 11>have just not been good at all and then played

1870
01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.520
<v Speaker 11>pretty well in their last game. He's and he's usually

1871
01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:17.159
<v Speaker 11>their backup goalie. Yorgia is their number one, but he

1872
01:24:17.359 --> 01:24:21.119
<v Speaker 11>has just had an awful start to this season, and

1873
01:24:21.680 --> 01:24:26.079
<v Speaker 11>Colorado has had some losses. They've got some injuries also,

1874
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:32.600
<v Speaker 11>the guys that aren't back in the lineup yet. Taves

1875
01:24:32.600 --> 01:24:34.800
<v Speaker 11>On defense is a real good player for them, and

1876
01:24:34.840 --> 01:24:38.039
<v Speaker 11>he's not back in the lineup yet, So they've they've

1877
01:24:38.079 --> 01:24:41.800
<v Speaker 11>got their their injuries, but they've got such superstars and

1878
01:24:41.880 --> 01:24:46.079
<v Speaker 11>guys like and McKinnon of course, and Cale mccarr on defense,

1879
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:50.920
<v Speaker 11>and then Nico Ranton, and I mean, they're extremely strong

1880
01:24:51.039 --> 01:24:55.039
<v Speaker 11>up front, and maybe they're finding their way now. They're

1881
01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:59.960
<v Speaker 11>They're a good team no matter what. But you know,

1882
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:03.960
<v Speaker 11>you've got to hope that your Utah that they haven't

1883
01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:07.319
<v Speaker 11>fixed their goaltending issue, because that is one place that

1884
01:25:07.520 --> 01:25:10.520
<v Speaker 11>Utah could take advantage of them. So that they've had

1885
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:12.800
<v Speaker 11>some pretty weak goaltending.

1886
01:25:13.479 --> 01:25:16.399
<v Speaker 1>All right, moving over to some other big picture of topics.

1887
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<v Speaker 1>I will admit ignorance.

1888
01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:21.119
<v Speaker 2>If Winnipeg was supposed to be this, I just didn't

1889
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:23.640
<v Speaker 2>know about it. But they have not lost through six games.

1890
01:25:23.680 --> 01:25:26.359
<v Speaker 2>They've captured all twelve points. They have the first spot

1891
01:25:26.399 --> 01:25:28.600
<v Speaker 2>in the Central Division, which is where we lie here

1892
01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:31.720
<v Speaker 2>with the Utah hockey club. What stands out most about

1893
01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:34.640
<v Speaker 2>this hot start to the Winnipeg season and is it

1894
01:25:34.760 --> 01:25:36.119
<v Speaker 2>something that we should have seen coming.

1895
01:25:37.079 --> 01:25:39.000
<v Speaker 11>No, it's not something you should have seen coming because

1896
01:25:39.000 --> 01:25:42.039
<v Speaker 11>I didn't see it coming, and I wondered if how

1897
01:25:42.079 --> 01:25:44.039
<v Speaker 11>good they would be to start the season. But they've

1898
01:25:44.039 --> 01:25:48.479
<v Speaker 11>got a tremendous goaltender in Hellibuck, and their guys up

1899
01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:51.720
<v Speaker 11>front are playing like Sisley and that are playing really well.

1900
01:25:52.279 --> 01:25:55.039
<v Speaker 11>They got a new coach and Scott O'Neil, who's paid

1901
01:25:55.039 --> 01:25:57.880
<v Speaker 11>his dues as an assistant around the league. He had

1902
01:25:57.880 --> 01:26:00.800
<v Speaker 11>a previous opportunity to coach Columbus as the head coach,

1903
01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:05.239
<v Speaker 11>and then he served with a lot of other teams

1904
01:26:05.239 --> 01:26:08.239
<v Speaker 11>as assistants. So he's doing a real good job there.

1905
01:26:08.239 --> 01:26:13.680
<v Speaker 11>Obviously they're buying into his game plan. And you know,

1906
01:26:14.159 --> 01:26:18.359
<v Speaker 11>as I said, they've got excellent, excellent goaltending and Colnnor Hallibuck.

1907
01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:20.159
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

1908
01:26:20.199 --> 01:26:23.119
<v Speaker 2>In addition to let's stay in the division, just kind

1909
01:26:23.119 --> 01:26:26.079
<v Speaker 2>of interest out this way, the Minnesota Wild have also

1910
01:26:26.239 --> 01:26:28.920
<v Speaker 2>not lost now they've got a couple of overtime situations.

1911
01:26:28.960 --> 01:26:32.319
<v Speaker 2>They have ten points through six games played. They're sitting

1912
01:26:32.439 --> 01:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>at number two in the division. Kind of same question.

1913
01:26:34.960 --> 01:26:36.479
<v Speaker 2>What do you make of their hot start and was

1914
01:26:36.520 --> 01:26:39.159
<v Speaker 2>this something we should have anticipated?

1915
01:26:39.840 --> 01:26:43.279
<v Speaker 11>Again, I didn't think they had I didn't think they

1916
01:26:43.359 --> 01:26:45.800
<v Speaker 11>make the playoffs, So I was saying that they weren't.

1917
01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:47.800
<v Speaker 11>They weren't going to be any better than they were

1918
01:26:47.880 --> 01:26:51.840
<v Speaker 11>last year. But having said that, they have had a

1919
01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:55.439
<v Speaker 11>real hot start, why have they had a heart hot start? Again?

1920
01:26:55.479 --> 01:26:59.319
<v Speaker 11>Their goaltenders playing great. Gustafson has been really good for them,

1921
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:03.399
<v Speaker 11>and the coach is getting a lot out of them.

1922
01:27:03.439 --> 01:27:06.600
<v Speaker 11>So you know what, these are the things that come

1923
01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:09.239
<v Speaker 11>to surprise you when you think that it's automatic that

1924
01:27:09.319 --> 01:27:12.000
<v Speaker 11>Colorado is going to be one of the heavyweights. They

1925
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:15.520
<v Speaker 11>start out the way they do. Edmonton, who goes to

1926
01:27:15.800 --> 01:27:19.439
<v Speaker 11>Game seven of the final, starts off laying eggs all

1927
01:27:19.479 --> 01:27:22.000
<v Speaker 11>over the place again this season like they did last year.

1928
01:27:22.520 --> 01:27:25.800
<v Speaker 11>They're only two four and one and lost their first

1929
01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:30.960
<v Speaker 11>four home games. You know the problem is with this

1930
01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:33.880
<v Speaker 11>is that's why we play the games because it's really

1931
01:27:33.920 --> 01:27:39.680
<v Speaker 11>not predictable. It is something that we can say we're

1932
01:27:39.760 --> 01:27:41.920
<v Speaker 11>experts and we think we know what's going to happen.

1933
01:27:42.520 --> 01:27:45.640
<v Speaker 11>But a lot of different things happen than I predict,

1934
01:27:45.680 --> 01:27:46.279
<v Speaker 11>that's for sure.

1935
01:27:46.920 --> 01:27:50.039
<v Speaker 2>So I certainly my heart lies with the Rangers and

1936
01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>always will. But there's a piece of my heart that

1937
01:27:52.960 --> 01:27:55.319
<v Speaker 2>I left in Saint Louis because of our experience there

1938
01:27:55.319 --> 01:27:58.640
<v Speaker 2>as a family. And I smile when I see the

1939
01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Utah Hockey Club next to the Saint Louis Blues in

1940
01:28:01.640 --> 01:28:04.399
<v Speaker 2>the Central Division. It's something I never thought i'd see,

1941
01:28:04.439 --> 01:28:07.159
<v Speaker 2>certainly in this business, being able to cover a hockey

1942
01:28:07.159 --> 01:28:09.239
<v Speaker 2>club here locally that goes toe to toe with a

1943
01:28:09.279 --> 01:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>club that I was very close to for a number

1944
01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:12.399
<v Speaker 2>of years.

1945
01:28:13.079 --> 01:28:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Give me your thoughts on the start of the season

1946
01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:15.439
<v Speaker 1>of the Blues.

1947
01:28:15.479 --> 01:28:18.279
<v Speaker 2>They just had a pretty bad injury unfortunately, and are

1948
01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:20.359
<v Speaker 2>you expecting more from them as we kind of traverse

1949
01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:21.199
<v Speaker 2>our way through the year.

1950
01:28:23.039 --> 01:28:25.359
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I'm you know what, I like the Blues. I

1951
01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:27.840
<v Speaker 11>like what they did in the summer, and Doug Armstrong's

1952
01:28:27.880 --> 01:28:31.319
<v Speaker 11>the GM there and he did those two offer sheets

1953
01:28:31.359 --> 01:28:34.600
<v Speaker 11>and got both the players from the Edmonton Oilers that

1954
01:28:34.800 --> 01:28:38.920
<v Speaker 11>really bolstered his lineup. He re signed the Snevitch to

1955
01:28:38.960 --> 01:28:41.960
<v Speaker 11>a long term contract, who's one of their best players.

1956
01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:46.520
<v Speaker 11>So you know, I think they're going to be fighting

1957
01:28:46.880 --> 01:28:52.000
<v Speaker 11>with Utah. To be honest, they're about the same meaning

1958
01:28:52.279 --> 01:28:55.560
<v Speaker 11>in the standings, UT hasn't much younger club than the

1959
01:28:55.600 --> 01:29:00.319
<v Speaker 11>Saint Louis Blues, but I expect Saint Louis to be

1960
01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:03.880
<v Speaker 11>in there in the fight certainly this season. Now, today

1961
01:29:04.000 --> 01:29:07.000
<v Speaker 11>was that bad announcement about Robert Thomas, who broke his

1962
01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:08.720
<v Speaker 11>ankle and will be out for a while. He's their

1963
01:29:08.800 --> 01:29:12.239
<v Speaker 11>number one center. That's a loss that you're not going

1964
01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:16.079
<v Speaker 11>to be able to replace her easily. You're going to

1965
01:29:16.159 --> 01:29:18.039
<v Speaker 11>have to just substitute other people in there.

1966
01:29:19.079 --> 01:29:21.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, one more thing before I say you lose,

1967
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>because I don't think I've asked you about our coach

1968
01:29:23.840 --> 01:29:26.439
<v Speaker 2>out this Way, Andre Torney. I guess they call him Bear.

1969
01:29:27.239 --> 01:29:31.039
<v Speaker 2>He's a very entertaining interview. He's fun to listen to,

1970
01:29:31.279 --> 01:29:34.239
<v Speaker 2>and I think a lot of people are pretty excited

1971
01:29:34.239 --> 01:29:36.479
<v Speaker 2>about He's only fifty and you know he's been around

1972
01:29:36.479 --> 01:29:39.560
<v Speaker 2>for a little bit. What do you know about coach Torny?

1973
01:29:39.600 --> 01:29:41.000
<v Speaker 2>What sort of coach is he?

1974
01:29:41.079 --> 01:29:42.920
<v Speaker 1>The guy that's kind of running the club out this way?

1975
01:29:44.319 --> 01:29:46.399
<v Speaker 11>You know, I know most people in the nhl'll spend

1976
01:29:46.439 --> 01:29:49.399
<v Speaker 11>but I don't know him. But I have watched him

1977
01:29:49.439 --> 01:29:51.800
<v Speaker 11>for his years in the Phoenix, and he's got to

1978
01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:53.720
<v Speaker 11>be a player's coach. He's got to be a guy

1979
01:29:53.720 --> 01:29:57.479
<v Speaker 11>that's well liked by the players to have survived all

1980
01:29:57.520 --> 01:30:02.159
<v Speaker 11>those frustrating seasons that they had in Phoenix where they

1981
01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:05.760
<v Speaker 11>didn't they weren't spending money, and they were continually just

1982
01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:08.960
<v Speaker 11>trying to use young guys and do the best they could.

1983
01:30:09.399 --> 01:30:11.520
<v Speaker 11>And he hung in there and hung in there and

1984
01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:14.439
<v Speaker 11>played in a college building last year, and so on

1985
01:30:14.479 --> 01:30:17.800
<v Speaker 11>and so forth. So I do know, or what I've heard,

1986
01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:21.479
<v Speaker 11>is that he's very good with his players, and you

1987
01:30:21.520 --> 01:30:23.720
<v Speaker 11>know that they play for him, and they play hard

1988
01:30:23.760 --> 01:30:26.800
<v Speaker 11>for him, and it appears that they're doing that again

1989
01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:27.319
<v Speaker 11>this year.

1990
01:30:28.239 --> 01:30:30.079
<v Speaker 2>All right, Neil, before I set you loose, we have

1991
01:30:30.159 --> 01:30:33.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot of new hockey fans out this way, thirsty

1992
01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:34.039
<v Speaker 2>for hockey content.

1993
01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:35.199
<v Speaker 1>How can they find the pod?

1994
01:30:36.079 --> 01:30:38.880
<v Speaker 11>Well, I hope they will give us a try on

1995
01:30:39.039 --> 01:30:42.439
<v Speaker 11>NHL wrap Around. You can find it on Spotify, Apple

1996
01:30:42.479 --> 01:30:46.479
<v Speaker 11>and everywhere else, and you could find a podcast. I

1997
01:30:46.520 --> 01:30:49.319
<v Speaker 11>think you'll learn things on there that you didn't know

1998
01:30:49.399 --> 01:30:52.319
<v Speaker 11>before you started to listen to it. So give it

1999
01:30:52.359 --> 01:30:54.319
<v Speaker 11>a chance. And I appreciate that, Spence.

2000
01:30:54.680 --> 01:30:56.600
<v Speaker 1>It is quality, Neil. Thank you for the time, sir.

2001
01:30:56.640 --> 01:30:57.520
<v Speaker 1>What chat next week?

2002
01:30:57.960 --> 01:30:59.479
<v Speaker 11>I can't wait, thank you very much.

2003
01:31:00.039 --> 01:31:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Neil Smith, former general manager of the New York Rangers

2004
01:31:02.800 --> 01:31:05.039
<v Speaker 2>when they want to Stanley Cup in ninety four, former

2005
01:31:05.079 --> 01:31:07.319
<v Speaker 2>general manager of the Islanders. He was the chief scout

2006
01:31:07.359 --> 01:31:10.159
<v Speaker 2>for the Red Wings. My man knows hockey probably the

2007
01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:11.800
<v Speaker 2>best hockey. Yes, you're gonna hear in the market. The

2008
01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:14.439
<v Speaker 2>Utah Hockey Club got spank last night. Back an action

2009
01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:17.479
<v Speaker 2>against Colorado coming up on Friday. All right, are you

2010
01:31:17.479 --> 01:31:20.359
<v Speaker 2>watching the Utah Hockey Club games? Are you watching the NFL?

2011
01:31:20.560 --> 01:31:23.359
<v Speaker 2>College football, NBA? You can get it in one place

2012
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:27.479
<v Speaker 2>with Dish, but today we're taking care of everybody. Yeah,

2013
01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Dish customers, DirecTV customers, what you're doing is you're leaving

2014
01:31:31.119 --> 01:31:33.279
<v Speaker 2>money on the table if you just have the same

2015
01:31:33.279 --> 01:31:37.119
<v Speaker 2>setup forever. Because there are new customer opportunities available. They

2016
01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:38.039
<v Speaker 2>can just save money.

2017
01:31:37.880 --> 01:31:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Right out of the gates.

2018
01:31:38.720 --> 01:31:44.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the new customer offers, they're pretty awesome. And you know,

2019
01:31:44.039 --> 01:31:48.239
<v Speaker 7>if you're switching from providers, from switching from cable, if

2020
01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:52.359
<v Speaker 7>you're switching from Dish or direct TV guys, they're the

2021
01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:54.039
<v Speaker 7>new customer offers save you money.

2022
01:31:54.079 --> 01:31:55.640
<v Speaker 4>They just put money back in your pocket.

2023
01:31:55.800 --> 01:31:58.800
<v Speaker 7>And you know, this merger that's happening with Dish and

2024
01:31:58.840 --> 01:32:02.760
<v Speaker 7>direct TV right now, you can still get the new

2025
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:04.720
<v Speaker 7>customer offers switching.

2026
01:32:04.359 --> 01:32:06.560
<v Speaker 4>Between the two, which they ultimately end up being won.

2027
01:32:06.680 --> 01:32:08.560
<v Speaker 4>And it's kind of a no brainer.

2028
01:32:08.840 --> 01:32:11.560
<v Speaker 7>Like, if you're a satellite person, you like your satellite TV,

2029
01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:14.720
<v Speaker 7>take advantage of the new customer deals while they're still there.

2030
01:32:15.399 --> 01:32:17.520
<v Speaker 7>We'll do one hundred bucks cash back on top of

2031
01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:21.479
<v Speaker 7>everything today and today only. Plus you know, dishes got

2032
01:32:21.479 --> 01:32:26.039
<v Speaker 7>that two year price guarantee and everybody's prices went up.

2033
01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:28.880
<v Speaker 7>It's the price increases are just kind of the name

2034
01:32:28.920 --> 01:32:30.880
<v Speaker 7>of the game. And we've seen a lot of that

2035
01:32:30.920 --> 01:32:33.880
<v Speaker 7>with fiber. A lot of the fiber bills, you know,

2036
01:32:34.079 --> 01:32:36.680
<v Speaker 7>the same price for life or whatever. They didn't tell

2037
01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:39.239
<v Speaker 7>you anything. You just noticed your credit card bill, or

2038
01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:41.560
<v Speaker 7>actually probably most people didn't that it.

2039
01:32:42.239 --> 01:32:43.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it went up yep.

2040
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:47.680
<v Speaker 7>And you know a lot of fibers deregulated, and so

2041
01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:50.520
<v Speaker 7>what that means is that the federal government helped put

2042
01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:53.560
<v Speaker 7>the fiber in the ground and so other multiple providers

2043
01:32:53.560 --> 01:32:58.000
<v Speaker 7>can actually use that same actual fiber to just pay

2044
01:32:58.000 --> 01:33:01.279
<v Speaker 7>a bill to somebody else and could be ten twenty

2045
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:04.199
<v Speaker 7>five dollars a month cheaper than what you're currently paying.

2046
01:33:04.319 --> 01:33:07.479
<v Speaker 7>I've got the five G product that I've been using

2047
01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:10.279
<v Speaker 7>for two years, and there's a two hundred dollars gift card.

2048
01:33:10.720 --> 01:33:13.760
<v Speaker 4>That's great service. I can get fiber at my house.

2049
01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:16.520
<v Speaker 7>I actually there's no need because it works so well

2050
01:33:16.960 --> 01:33:20.319
<v Speaker 7>and it's kind of an awesome opportunity. I'd have a

2051
01:33:20.359 --> 01:33:24.279
<v Speaker 7>friend that lives up in Bountiful and his cable internet

2052
01:33:24.439 --> 01:33:27.640
<v Speaker 7>was just horrible. It would just go out, go out,

2053
01:33:27.920 --> 01:33:30.039
<v Speaker 7>and he's like, what do you got and we set

2054
01:33:30.079 --> 01:33:32.960
<v Speaker 7>them up with this fiber product and loves it.

2055
01:33:32.960 --> 01:33:35.439
<v Speaker 4>It's cheaper. Got a two hundred dollars gift card come

2056
01:33:35.479 --> 01:33:36.000
<v Speaker 4>in his way.

2057
01:33:36.359 --> 01:33:38.920
<v Speaker 7>You got additional hundred bucks today if you call and

2058
01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:41.399
<v Speaker 7>get set up, and you know, ask about our boost

2059
01:33:41.479 --> 01:33:44.039
<v Speaker 7>Mobile too. This is I'm actually coming more and more

2060
01:33:44.079 --> 01:33:48.399
<v Speaker 7>excited about this, the boost Mobile service, because you know,

2061
01:33:48.520 --> 01:33:50.399
<v Speaker 7>I think a lot of people think Boost Oh, it's

2062
01:33:50.439 --> 01:33:55.199
<v Speaker 7>a prepaid wireless provider, you know, bottom of the barrel

2063
01:33:55.239 --> 01:33:55.800
<v Speaker 7>kind of stuff.

2064
01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:57.000
<v Speaker 4>It's not anymore.

2065
01:33:57.159 --> 01:34:01.359
<v Speaker 7>They're building this five G network that's truly second to none.

2066
01:34:01.439 --> 01:34:03.840
<v Speaker 7>But while they're building it, you're like, well, I don't

2067
01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:06.359
<v Speaker 7>want to be part of like a lousy network. They're

2068
01:34:06.399 --> 01:34:10.840
<v Speaker 7>actually utilizing the biggest wireless provider in America, which in

2069
01:34:11.680 --> 01:34:15.079
<v Speaker 7>Utah is like second to none in coverage. So we

2070
01:34:15.159 --> 01:34:19.760
<v Speaker 7>talked about this earlier. You're paying to use the same towers,

2071
01:34:20.199 --> 01:34:23.000
<v Speaker 7>but you could pay thirty forty dollars a month less

2072
01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:27.000
<v Speaker 7>plus get a brand new iPhone sixteen and we'll port

2073
01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:30.039
<v Speaker 7>your number over, get you all new phones. And those

2074
01:34:30.079 --> 01:34:32.960
<v Speaker 7>customers that we do that for, those are the impressive ones.

2075
01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:35.680
<v Speaker 7>Two three hundred dollars a month savings if we hook

2076
01:34:35.680 --> 01:34:36.199
<v Speaker 7>them up there.

2077
01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:38.239
<v Speaker 2>So my guess is, if you're listening to the show,

2078
01:34:38.520 --> 01:34:41.159
<v Speaker 2>you have cable TV, you use the Internet, and you

2079
01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:41.760
<v Speaker 2>have a cell.

2080
01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Phone, that's pretty much it.

2081
01:34:43.800 --> 01:34:46.840
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's my guess. Unless you're Christopher Mccanndaliss listening from

2082
01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:49.760
<v Speaker 2>far off in Alaska, that's probably the deal. So what

2083
01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:52.760
<v Speaker 2>you're saying is, with the three options we have available today,

2084
01:34:52.920 --> 01:34:54.720
<v Speaker 2>you'll end up saving right out of the gates about

2085
01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:57.479
<v Speaker 2>three hundred dollars a month. Now, off the top, that

2086
01:34:57.600 --> 01:34:59.199
<v Speaker 2>might not sound like a lot, but if you do

2087
01:34:59.239 --> 01:35:01.640
<v Speaker 2>the math with com pound interest for one year, that's

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01:35:01.640 --> 01:35:03.199
<v Speaker 2>three six hundred dollars.

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01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:05.479
<v Speaker 1>You time that over three or four years.

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01:35:05.239 --> 01:35:08.359
<v Speaker 2>You're saving real money that canut you can allocate to

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01:35:08.439 --> 01:35:10.359
<v Speaker 2>bills if you're going month to month like most of

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01:35:10.439 --> 01:35:12.239
<v Speaker 2>us are, or you can invest in the market.

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01:35:12.800 --> 01:35:15.399
<v Speaker 1>Three six hundred dollars per year is real money. That's

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01:35:15.439 --> 01:35:16.399
<v Speaker 1>not pennies on the doll.

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<v Speaker 7>It's amazing, and you know that's it's just super easy.

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<v Speaker 7>And I tell people listen, I tell you all this

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01:35:22.560 --> 01:35:25.279
<v Speaker 7>stuff on the radio. Call us up and just say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 7>this is what I have, this is what I want.

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01:35:28.119 --> 01:35:29.199
<v Speaker 4>What can you do for me?

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01:35:29.479 --> 01:35:32.560
<v Speaker 7>And some people refuse to tell us what they pay

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01:35:32.640 --> 01:35:34.720
<v Speaker 7>because they think that we're going to change the price.

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01:35:35.119 --> 01:35:36.159
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't work that way.

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01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:38.800
<v Speaker 7>The prices we get are set nationally and they are

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01:35:38.920 --> 01:35:42.880
<v Speaker 7>We offer the best price, flat out guaranteed. Actually we

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01:35:42.920 --> 01:35:45.520
<v Speaker 7>offer a better price because today you get a hundred

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01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:48.000
<v Speaker 7>bucks cash back on top of the best still out there.

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01:35:48.039 --> 01:35:50.600
<v Speaker 2>So if you like money, you should call. I mean

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01:35:50.600 --> 01:35:51.520
<v Speaker 2>that's the bottom line.

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<v Speaker 7>Right money, you want to have new stuff, Yeah, call

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01:35:53.920 --> 01:35:55.560
<v Speaker 7>us and we'll just come out and get you set

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01:35:55.640 --> 01:35:58.960
<v Speaker 7>up the next day and really upgrade you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the best part.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't like money, don't call. If you like money,

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01:36:02.000 --> 01:36:02.920
<v Speaker 1>call you like.

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01:36:02.880 --> 01:36:04.600
<v Speaker 4>To throw away money, yeah, yep, dear god.

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01:36:04.479 --> 01:36:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you think we're not judging.

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01:36:06.119 --> 01:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>But if you want to save and actually pay bills

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01:36:07.880 --> 01:36:10.199
<v Speaker 2>and nuts stress eight o one four to two four dish.

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<v Speaker 1>That's eight oh one four to two four dish. Right,

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01:36:12.039 --> 01:36:12.439
<v Speaker 1>you're the man.

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01:36:12.479 --> 01:36:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Thanks Vans.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're live today from the dish Professionals.

2123
01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I just got the last pack of peanut Eminem's and

2124
01:36:19.119 --> 01:36:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Cynthia doesn't think panot eminems are an elite candy, so

2125
01:36:22.239 --> 01:36:26.079
<v Speaker 2>she's wrong. The Utah Jazz are in action tonight. Our

2126
01:36:26.119 --> 01:36:28.880
<v Speaker 2>next guest usually is live on site. He must be

2127
01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:31.319
<v Speaker 2>very busy today, so we'll give him a pass. Richard

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01:36:31.399 --> 01:36:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Smith forty years with a jazz front office, good enough

2129
01:36:34.680 --> 01:36:36.399
<v Speaker 2>to give us some time on an opening day.

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01:36:36.479 --> 01:36:38.039
<v Speaker 1>Smittie, Happy Wednesday. How are we doing?

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01:36:39.039 --> 01:36:39.359
<v Speaker 11>Thanks?

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01:36:39.399 --> 01:36:42.720
<v Speaker 8>Thanks for doing great on a beautiful Wednesday afternoon. How

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01:36:42.720 --> 01:36:43.439
<v Speaker 8>about this weather?

2134
01:36:43.840 --> 01:36:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I know it's perfect, but enjoy it because it's going

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01:36:46.000 --> 01:36:48.479
<v Speaker 2>to be thirty five next weekend, so we'll enjoy it

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01:36:48.479 --> 01:36:48.960
<v Speaker 2>while we can.

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01:36:49.079 --> 01:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Smitty, what's what's your opinion on Pean and M and M's.

2138
01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:54.159
<v Speaker 1>I say they're elite. My tech disagrees.

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01:36:55.239 --> 01:36:57.560
<v Speaker 8>We Eminem's are right at the top of the list.

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01:36:57.840 --> 01:36:59.840
<v Speaker 8>That's that's that has to be one of the go.

2141
01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:04.680
<v Speaker 8>You're in the dire straits and you have five minutes

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01:37:04.680 --> 01:37:05.600
<v Speaker 8>to get something going.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm glad we're on the same page, SMITTI.

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01:37:07.920 --> 01:37:09.000
<v Speaker 2>All right, Opening night for.

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01:37:08.920 --> 01:37:09.760
<v Speaker 1>The Utah Jazz.

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01:37:10.359 --> 01:37:10.520
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Take us behind the scenes on what opening night is

2148
01:37:14.319 --> 01:37:17.920
<v Speaker 2>like in the arena, in the front office. All the

2149
01:37:17.960 --> 01:37:20.800
<v Speaker 2>hard work that most people never see and never will

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01:37:20.840 --> 01:37:24.199
<v Speaker 2>see behind the scenes culminate in the actual show.

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01:37:24.479 --> 01:37:26.840
<v Speaker 1>So what's what's the buzz like down at the arena?

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01:37:26.840 --> 01:37:29.279
<v Speaker 1>What's the feeling like typically when opening day is here.

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01:37:30.119 --> 01:37:35.159
<v Speaker 13>Well, it's always a day of renewal, Spencer, because everybody

2154
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:38.840
<v Speaker 13>starts the season, oh and oh nobody's lost the game

2155
01:37:38.920 --> 01:37:43.760
<v Speaker 13>yet everybody thinks they're gonna be better than they probably

2156
01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:47.319
<v Speaker 13>are or as other people are saying they're.

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01:37:47.119 --> 01:37:51.560
<v Speaker 8>Going to be. But there's always optimism because you always

2158
01:37:51.640 --> 01:37:54.960
<v Speaker 8>feel like, you know, we can get something more done

2159
01:37:55.199 --> 01:37:58.640
<v Speaker 8>than people think we can. We're gonna work hard, we're

2160
01:37:58.640 --> 01:38:02.000
<v Speaker 8>gonna be organized, we're going to be better in our

2161
01:38:02.039 --> 01:38:05.760
<v Speaker 8>player development this year than we were last year. So

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01:38:05.840 --> 01:38:08.720
<v Speaker 8>when we roll the ball out you start the season,

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01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:11.640
<v Speaker 8>you know where everybody has that same feeling. It doesn't

2164
01:38:11.680 --> 01:38:13.880
<v Speaker 8>matter whether you were the worst team in the league.

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01:38:13.960 --> 01:38:17.119
<v Speaker 8>Last year you were the best team. Everybody's got that

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01:38:17.119 --> 01:38:21.840
<v Speaker 8>that sense, uh that they can be better. And then

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01:38:22.039 --> 01:38:24.359
<v Speaker 8>then you roll it out and obviously you hope for

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01:38:24.600 --> 01:38:28.600
<v Speaker 8>good fortune and the uh, minimize injuries and all that

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01:38:28.680 --> 01:38:31.119
<v Speaker 8>kind of stuff, and and you see where it goes.

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<v Speaker 8>But it's it's always a time where everybody's upbeatn positive

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01:38:34.880 --> 01:38:36.880
<v Speaker 8>about what's in front of them.

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01:38:37.199 --> 01:38:41.960
<v Speaker 2>Let's stick with that theme of positivity. What's your Jazz fans?

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01:38:42.239 --> 01:38:45.840
<v Speaker 2>What what are the positive elements of what the season

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01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:48.119
<v Speaker 2>could bring? If you're a Jazz fan, what are the

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01:38:48.159 --> 01:38:49.399
<v Speaker 2>reasons for positivity?

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01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:52.359
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think they're just, uh, you're just going to

2177
01:38:52.399 --> 01:38:57.760
<v Speaker 8>be looking at whether you see any kind of incremental development,

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01:38:58.079 --> 01:39:01.640
<v Speaker 8>uh in a plus way with all your young guys

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01:39:01.680 --> 01:39:04.800
<v Speaker 8>and that and that's what that's the system they've set

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01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:08.880
<v Speaker 8>up this year. Obviously, they brought back lowry marketing in

2181
01:39:08.920 --> 01:39:12.279
<v Speaker 8>on a big number contract and and they in my opinion,

2182
01:39:12.560 --> 01:39:16.000
<v Speaker 8>they should have done that. That was a smart But

2183
01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:18.760
<v Speaker 8>now you've got to add some other guys. So who

2184
01:39:18.760 --> 01:39:21.520
<v Speaker 8>are the other guys, Well, we don't know yet. That's

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01:39:21.600 --> 01:39:24.439
<v Speaker 8>why we're gonna be playing different lineups, We're gonna be

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01:39:24.479 --> 01:39:28.239
<v Speaker 8>playing different combinations. You're gonna see guys out there where

2187
01:39:28.239 --> 01:39:31.520
<v Speaker 8>you're gonna say, oh, this, I'm not sure these guys

2188
01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:33.479
<v Speaker 8>know how to play together. I'm not sure how this

2189
01:39:33.520 --> 01:39:36.000
<v Speaker 8>is gonna work. But they don't know that either, and

2190
01:39:36.039 --> 01:39:38.720
<v Speaker 8>that's why they're out there. And it's not a year

2191
01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:42.079
<v Speaker 8>of whether they're gonna be trying to figure out, you know,

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01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:44.640
<v Speaker 8>how to win games and then how to get into

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01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:48.479
<v Speaker 8>the last two playoff spots or anything of that nature.

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<v Speaker 8>It's all gonna be about developing the players, seeing who

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01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:56.399
<v Speaker 8>can who can improve enough that we think that that

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01:39:56.439 --> 01:40:01.239
<v Speaker 8>guy can can be a positive contributor to a winning effort.

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<v Speaker 8>That's gonna be the next thing. Of course, they've had

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01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:08.560
<v Speaker 8>their woes on defense last year and those have been

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<v Speaker 8>well documented. They're going to be looking to see if

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01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:14.399
<v Speaker 8>they can improve in that area, and they're gonna have

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01:40:14.479 --> 01:40:17.039
<v Speaker 8>to improve in that area if they're gonna want to

2202
01:40:17.079 --> 01:40:22.279
<v Speaker 8>see anything that even scraps the surface of trying to

2203
01:40:22.319 --> 01:40:25.000
<v Speaker 8>be better and trying to prove to their fans that

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01:40:25.039 --> 01:40:28.760
<v Speaker 8>they are improving with this young group of guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So ultimately, I agree with you when it comes to

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01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:35.840
<v Speaker 2>the development side of this, and when we've heard from

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01:40:36.039 --> 01:40:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Jazz brass. When we've heard from the front office, namely

2208
01:40:38.800 --> 01:40:41.880
<v Speaker 2>Danny and Justin and then Ryan Smith too, the owner

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<v Speaker 2>of the club, most of them all say that this

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01:40:45.439 --> 01:40:47.800
<v Speaker 2>will be a year of development, as you just outline,

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01:40:48.000 --> 01:40:51.199
<v Speaker 2>meaning if you translate that literally, the young players are

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01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:53.800
<v Speaker 2>going to play a lot of minutes. Seven players under

2213
01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:56.399
<v Speaker 2>the age of twenty three. But what about from Will

2214
01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Hardy's standpoint, you know, because ultimately the coach decides the rotation.

2215
01:41:01.199 --> 01:41:03.159
<v Speaker 2>And look, let's just call it how it is. There

2216
01:41:03.199 --> 01:41:06.760
<v Speaker 2>will be Knights when Isaiah Collier is one for eleven

2217
01:41:06.920 --> 01:41:10.760
<v Speaker 2>and he's not impacting winning, or you know, Cody Williams

2218
01:41:10.760 --> 01:41:13.359
<v Speaker 2>shows his I like Cody, I'm excited to watch Cody,

2219
01:41:13.359 --> 01:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>but he shows his age and he's not impacting winning.

2220
01:41:16.199 --> 01:41:18.439
<v Speaker 2>And look even the second year players, you know Bryce

2221
01:41:18.479 --> 01:41:21.520
<v Speaker 2>sen Siba Keyante, who I like a lot. There were

2222
01:41:21.600 --> 01:41:23.840
<v Speaker 2>plenty of Knights last year where Keante just couldn't make

2223
01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:27.319
<v Speaker 2>a shot. He kept shooting, and because of those dynamics,

2224
01:41:27.439 --> 01:41:30.640
<v Speaker 2>you end up losing the game. Coaches only want to win, period.

2225
01:41:31.159 --> 01:41:33.439
<v Speaker 2>So do you think Will is going to lean into

2226
01:41:34.199 --> 01:41:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the message that we hear from the front office about

2227
01:41:36.680 --> 01:41:39.479
<v Speaker 2>young guys playing or will we see a little bit

2228
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:43.319
<v Speaker 2>more Jordan Clarkson, John Collins, Drew you Banks, Patty Mills,

2229
01:41:43.359 --> 01:41:47.800
<v Speaker 2>When when Will believes playing his veteran players is what

2230
01:41:47.920 --> 01:41:50.359
<v Speaker 2>actually leads them to winning basketball games?

2231
01:41:50.359 --> 01:41:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Like, how do you think Will handles this entire thing?

2232
01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:55.800
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well, I think the main thing is going to

2233
01:41:55.840 --> 01:41:59.199
<v Speaker 8>be that he has to be in lockstep with the

2234
01:41:59.399 --> 01:42:02.439
<v Speaker 8>with the front office and the ownership about where they're

2235
01:42:02.479 --> 01:42:04.840
<v Speaker 8>at and what they're trying to get done. And I

2236
01:42:05.479 --> 01:42:08.319
<v Speaker 8>believe from everything I've heard and talked to some of

2237
01:42:08.359 --> 01:42:11.920
<v Speaker 8>those guys individually, it seems like they're all on the

2238
01:42:11.960 --> 01:42:16.000
<v Speaker 8>same page, which means that takes a little bit of

2239
01:42:16.840 --> 01:42:20.479
<v Speaker 8>the weight off of his shoulders. Where, yeah, he's a coach,

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<v Speaker 8>he wants to win every time he steps out there.

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01:42:23.640 --> 01:42:26.560
<v Speaker 8>The players want to win every time they step out there.

2242
01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:28.840
<v Speaker 8>But let me tell you, Spence, there's not a player

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01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:31.560
<v Speaker 8>I ever worked with in all my years and with

2244
01:42:31.640 --> 01:42:34.800
<v Speaker 8>the Jazz organization who didn't think that they were going

2245
01:42:34.880 --> 01:42:37.600
<v Speaker 8>to win every single game they walked out on the

2246
01:42:37.640 --> 01:42:41.479
<v Speaker 8>floor before the start of the game. That's just the mindset,

2247
01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:43.560
<v Speaker 8>and that's the mindset you have to have as a

2248
01:42:43.600 --> 01:42:49.720
<v Speaker 8>competitive athlete. Having said that, my own personal opinion, and

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01:42:49.800 --> 01:42:53.319
<v Speaker 8>I don't know this at all, but I believe that

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<v Speaker 8>the front office will have certain demands of Will and

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01:42:58.520 --> 01:43:01.560
<v Speaker 8>his coaching staff about what they want to do with

2252
01:43:01.680 --> 01:43:05.279
<v Speaker 8>their with their players, how they want to what kind

2253
01:43:05.319 --> 01:43:08.039
<v Speaker 8>of rotations they want to have, who they want to

2254
01:43:08.079 --> 01:43:13.439
<v Speaker 8>see in certain positions with certain lineup combinations. Whether it's

2255
01:43:14.399 --> 01:43:18.359
<v Speaker 8>we're winning or we're not winning, is going to be

2256
01:43:18.439 --> 01:43:22.640
<v Speaker 8>a second nate, a second level thing to whether we

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01:43:22.760 --> 01:43:25.760
<v Speaker 8>think we're able to get something out of these players.

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01:43:26.359 --> 01:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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01:43:26.680 --> 01:43:30.039
<v Speaker 8>They tell us that they're getting better, and so some

2260
01:43:30.079 --> 01:43:32.680
<v Speaker 8>of that I believe that the weight will be taken

2261
01:43:32.680 --> 01:43:35.720
<v Speaker 8>off Will's shoulders by by having the backing of the

2262
01:43:35.760 --> 01:43:38.680
<v Speaker 8>front office group to say, Hey, don't worry about it.

2263
01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:42.840
<v Speaker 8>We don't need tonight, Clarkson and Collins in the game

2264
01:43:42.880 --> 01:43:45.520
<v Speaker 8>in the fourth quarter. If it's a two minute, two

2265
01:43:45.600 --> 01:43:48.600
<v Speaker 8>point game with five minutes to go. We want to

2266
01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:52.239
<v Speaker 8>see how those three young guys up front, how they play,

2267
01:43:52.880 --> 01:43:55.479
<v Speaker 8>and how they figure out how to win the game

2268
01:43:55.560 --> 01:43:58.199
<v Speaker 8>or not win the game. And that gives us more

2269
01:43:58.760 --> 01:44:02.720
<v Speaker 8>uh information to go on as we try and get

2270
01:44:02.760 --> 01:44:05.920
<v Speaker 8>this whole thing figured out in the long term. So

2271
01:44:06.479 --> 01:44:08.520
<v Speaker 8>I think there's some of that that will be in

2272
01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:12.800
<v Speaker 8>play as a season unfolds, I don't think Will's on

2273
01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:16.520
<v Speaker 8>his own that again my own opinion, just running the

2274
01:44:16.560 --> 01:44:19.600
<v Speaker 8>lineups the way he wants for forty eight minutes. I

2275
01:44:19.600 --> 01:44:23.239
<v Speaker 8>think they discuss things a lot before the games about

2276
01:44:23.359 --> 01:44:26.840
<v Speaker 8>what the rotations, what lineup, who's going to start, that

2277
01:44:27.000 --> 01:44:29.319
<v Speaker 8>kind of stuff, and then he has to play off

2278
01:44:29.359 --> 01:44:32.319
<v Speaker 8>that stuff as a particular game unfolds.

2279
01:44:33.279 --> 01:44:37.199
<v Speaker 2>Just continue with the theme of development and incremental growth,

2280
01:44:37.279 --> 01:44:39.359
<v Speaker 2>and all this stuff is brick by brick and step

2281
01:44:39.399 --> 01:44:41.760
<v Speaker 2>by step. I mean, it's pretty rare you see some

2282
01:44:41.960 --> 01:44:46.439
<v Speaker 2>rapid ascension, but you do see it. Usually those guys

2283
01:44:46.439 --> 01:44:49.439
<v Speaker 2>are unicorns, rookies that actually impact winning or even second

2284
01:44:49.479 --> 01:44:51.600
<v Speaker 2>year players to learn how to do that so early on.

2285
01:44:51.720 --> 01:44:54.159
<v Speaker 2>But let's start with some of the second year guys.

2286
01:44:54.199 --> 01:44:57.680
<v Speaker 2>And the way I'll phrase it, Smitty is what, as

2287
01:44:57.680 --> 01:45:00.960
<v Speaker 2>a jazz fan, what should you hope to see as

2288
01:45:00.960 --> 01:45:03.119
<v Speaker 2>far as growth from Keante George this year?

2289
01:45:04.319 --> 01:45:07.199
<v Speaker 8>Well, you hope that he becomes more of a playmaker.

2290
01:45:08.319 --> 01:45:10.079
<v Speaker 8>He seems to be when he when he's in a

2291
01:45:10.119 --> 01:45:13.479
<v Speaker 8>playmaking mode. To me, it seems to be like it's

2292
01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:16.359
<v Speaker 8>a little he's a little too much in second gear

2293
01:45:17.279 --> 01:45:19.159
<v Speaker 8>for me that he has to be a little more

2294
01:45:19.199 --> 01:45:23.079
<v Speaker 8>forceful uh when he's trying to distribute, when he's trying

2295
01:45:23.119 --> 01:45:26.159
<v Speaker 8>to get get guys in certain positions. I think he

2296
01:45:26.199 --> 01:45:29.840
<v Speaker 8>has to be a little more demonstrative with his teammates

2297
01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:32.359
<v Speaker 8>on the floor, uh to make sure they're getting in

2298
01:45:32.439 --> 01:45:35.640
<v Speaker 8>spots where they should be uh to to run an offense.

2299
01:45:36.920 --> 01:45:39.800
<v Speaker 8>And also his you know, he has a penchant for

2300
01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:43.479
<v Speaker 8>sloppy turnovers uh, and that's gonna be one thing that

2301
01:45:43.520 --> 01:45:45.960
<v Speaker 8>they're gonna be looking at early in the season to

2302
01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:48.239
<v Speaker 8>him to shore up. He's got to be more of

2303
01:45:48.279 --> 01:45:52.479
<v Speaker 8>a sure handed uh ball handler, and he's got to

2304
01:45:52.520 --> 01:45:56.279
<v Speaker 8>be able to to be able to distribute, to find

2305
01:45:56.319 --> 01:45:59.840
<v Speaker 8>the right shot in the right sequence, and be able

2306
01:45:59.840 --> 01:46:02.960
<v Speaker 8>to to get the ball to guys without having these

2307
01:46:03.079 --> 01:46:08.560
<v Speaker 8>loose handle, sloppy, lazy turnovers that he was prone to

2308
01:46:08.720 --> 01:46:11.039
<v Speaker 8>last year. So that's gonna be that's gonna be a

2309
01:46:11.079 --> 01:46:13.800
<v Speaker 8>big thing I'll be looking for in the first month

2310
01:46:13.880 --> 01:46:16.279
<v Speaker 8>or two of the season to see how he's coming

2311
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:17.399
<v Speaker 8>along in that regard.

2312
01:46:18.600 --> 01:46:23.119
<v Speaker 2>All Right, So, you know, Bryce Sensiba made a living

2313
01:46:23.319 --> 01:46:26.359
<v Speaker 2>in college at being a shot maker, and somebody who could,

2314
01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:28.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, really find a way to get a shot

2315
01:46:28.760 --> 01:46:31.039
<v Speaker 2>off in college at Ohio State and he scored it

2316
01:46:31.119 --> 01:46:34.760
<v Speaker 2>a very high clip. I've used this parallel before. There's

2317
01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a little like Dennis Scott to his game. You know,

2318
01:46:37.760 --> 01:46:40.560
<v Speaker 2>he needs to be in better shape ultimately, and I

2319
01:46:40.560 --> 01:46:43.880
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's ever gonna be anything other than a acceptable,

2320
01:46:44.159 --> 01:46:46.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, team defensive player. But this is

2321
01:46:46.560 --> 01:46:50.399
<v Speaker 2>a team last year that badly needed better shooting among

2322
01:46:50.479 --> 01:46:52.479
<v Speaker 2>other things. And we'll get to the other things as well,

2323
01:46:52.520 --> 01:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>but Bryce is a shot maker. What should Jazz fans

2324
01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:58.920
<v Speaker 2>hope year two look like looks like for Bryce Sensiba, Well.

2325
01:46:58.760 --> 01:47:01.159
<v Speaker 8>You hope that his body is better, which I think

2326
01:47:01.199 --> 01:47:03.960
<v Speaker 8>it is is somewhat better what I saw him in

2327
01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:08.199
<v Speaker 8>the fall, during training camp, in the preseason games. But

2328
01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:11.479
<v Speaker 8>he's got to continue to get that body in better shape,

2329
01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:14.600
<v Speaker 8>get it more toned up. He also has to play

2330
01:47:15.119 --> 01:47:19.840
<v Speaker 8>with with more with more punch, with more force when

2331
01:47:19.880 --> 01:47:21.680
<v Speaker 8>he gets the ball. You know, he can't just be

2332
01:47:21.760 --> 01:47:26.600
<v Speaker 8>a one trick pony in the NBA unless Spence, You're

2333
01:47:26.680 --> 01:47:29.920
<v Speaker 8>at the top of the list of whatever that trick is.

2334
01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:33.239
<v Speaker 8>So you can be only a three point shooter, but

2335
01:47:33.359 --> 01:47:36.920
<v Speaker 8>you better be the best three point shooter in the league,

2336
01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:39.399
<v Speaker 8>and it better be by a wide margin if you

2337
01:47:39.479 --> 01:47:43.000
<v Speaker 8>don't do anything else. A sense of bought for me

2338
01:47:44.079 --> 01:47:48.760
<v Speaker 8>is a little bit of a sporadic shooter. He's more

2339
01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:51.880
<v Speaker 8>a little bit more of a scorer. But he's gonna

2340
01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:56.680
<v Speaker 8>have to be more dynamic, uh in that regard on

2341
01:47:56.800 --> 01:48:00.359
<v Speaker 8>the offensive end and then defensively. He just has to

2342
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:03.800
<v Speaker 8>show that he's that he has the willingness and the

2343
01:48:03.800 --> 01:48:07.039
<v Speaker 8>desire to man up. You know, when he gets in

2344
01:48:07.159 --> 01:48:10.199
<v Speaker 8>iso situations on the wing, he has to be able

2345
01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:12.600
<v Speaker 8>to get on top of guys. I don't know if

2346
01:48:12.640 --> 01:48:16.439
<v Speaker 8>he has that in him. You know, that's something that

2347
01:48:16.439 --> 01:48:19.720
<v Speaker 8>that he'll I think he'll get opportunities to show whether

2348
01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:22.640
<v Speaker 8>he has it or not. And that's gonna be the

2349
01:48:22.720 --> 01:48:25.960
<v Speaker 8>interesting thing with him. He he really has to start

2350
01:48:26.000 --> 01:48:29.880
<v Speaker 8>showing that he has some skill that is the skill

2351
01:48:29.960 --> 01:48:33.159
<v Speaker 8>that he can rely on night in and night out

2352
01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:37.600
<v Speaker 8>to be able to contribute to the group. And and

2353
01:48:37.640 --> 01:48:39.359
<v Speaker 8>so that's one thing I think that they're going to

2354
01:48:39.399 --> 01:48:42.520
<v Speaker 8>be looking for the first half of the season for

2355
01:48:42.640 --> 01:48:44.119
<v Speaker 8>the minutes that he gets in there.

2356
01:48:44.640 --> 01:48:46.119
<v Speaker 1>Let's move over to Taylor Hendrix.

2357
01:48:46.199 --> 01:48:49.439
<v Speaker 2>So I find the most I don't know interesting Year

2358
01:48:49.520 --> 01:48:54.239
<v Speaker 2>three project only because I do believe he OSes potential

2359
01:48:54.520 --> 01:48:57.840
<v Speaker 2>at times, and the way he's built just indicates if

2360
01:48:57.840 --> 01:49:00.319
<v Speaker 2>he works and if he's coached and developed. I mean,

2361
01:49:00.359 --> 01:49:02.319
<v Speaker 2>with those measurables, if you can combine it with a

2362
01:49:02.359 --> 01:49:04.479
<v Speaker 2>good skill set, I think he could play in the

2363
01:49:04.560 --> 01:49:06.520
<v Speaker 2>league for a long time, maybe at a really high level.

2364
01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:09.039
<v Speaker 1>So it was up and down last year.

2365
01:49:09.159 --> 01:49:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Injured, missed Summer League, which is a big deal when

2366
01:49:12.600 --> 01:49:15.880
<v Speaker 2>you're a rookie to not have that experience, and then injured,

2367
01:49:15.960 --> 01:49:18.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, incrementally throughout the course of the year. Looks

2368
01:49:18.760 --> 01:49:20.840
<v Speaker 2>like he's going to start and get minutes. What should

2369
01:49:21.199 --> 01:49:23.600
<v Speaker 2>we all hope this thing looks like this year for Taylor?

2370
01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:27.119
<v Speaker 8>Well, he's he's a young guy, Spence. He's not only

2371
01:49:27.239 --> 01:49:31.439
<v Speaker 8>young age wise, of course, but but he's young playing wise.

2372
01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:34.239
<v Speaker 8>And you know, having only played one year at a

2373
01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:38.000
<v Speaker 8>mid major in Central Florida and then coming in last

2374
01:49:38.079 --> 01:49:41.279
<v Speaker 8>year playing mostly in the G League. He you know,

2375
01:49:41.359 --> 01:49:44.600
<v Speaker 8>that was a year of development of his body. He's

2376
01:49:44.680 --> 01:49:47.520
<v Speaker 8>still in that phase. He's you know, guys like that

2377
01:49:47.800 --> 01:49:50.640
<v Speaker 8>usually come in we would usually want to have them

2378
01:49:50.920 --> 01:49:53.479
<v Speaker 8>on what we would consider some kind of a three

2379
01:49:53.640 --> 01:49:59.479
<v Speaker 8>year physical development program where they get bigger, stronger, faster,

2380
01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:02.439
<v Speaker 8>uh and and they show those kind of increments that

2381
01:50:02.800 --> 01:50:06.560
<v Speaker 8>are measurables and things you can test and train and

2382
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:10.840
<v Speaker 8>development uh all all year long. So he's just in

2383
01:50:10.920 --> 01:50:13.119
<v Speaker 8>the beginning part of that. He's had one year of that,

2384
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:16.479
<v Speaker 8>you know, under his belt, fifteen months at the most,

2385
01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:19.479
<v Speaker 8>if you will, uh, since he was drafted last year.

2386
01:50:19.960 --> 01:50:22.279
<v Speaker 8>So he's got a ways to go. He's not going

2387
01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:26.039
<v Speaker 8>to come out gangbusters this year and and start lighting

2388
01:50:26.119 --> 01:50:28.840
<v Speaker 8>it up and everybody going whoa, whoa, he's a he's

2389
01:50:28.880 --> 01:50:31.960
<v Speaker 8>the next coming of some some great wing player. But

2390
01:50:32.039 --> 01:50:34.560
<v Speaker 8>I think he's he's got to be able to show

2391
01:50:34.600 --> 01:50:37.680
<v Speaker 8>that he's getting stronger. He's got to show that he

2392
01:50:37.760 --> 01:50:42.640
<v Speaker 8>can uh commit uh to uh to playing long stints uh,

2393
01:50:42.720 --> 01:50:46.039
<v Speaker 8>you know, with a certain a certain amount of intensity

2394
01:50:47.000 --> 01:50:50.039
<v Speaker 8>and and and uh and and confidence. You know, that's

2395
01:50:50.079 --> 01:50:52.479
<v Speaker 8>one of the things I thought he lacked last year

2396
01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:55.279
<v Speaker 8>sometimes when he didn't play with a level of confidence

2397
01:50:55.680 --> 01:50:58.279
<v Speaker 8>you would want young guys to do, because when they

2398
01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:02.760
<v Speaker 8>do that sometimes they make they make errors, and they

2399
01:51:02.760 --> 01:51:05.199
<v Speaker 8>make mistakes. But we would always call those errors of

2400
01:51:05.279 --> 01:51:08.640
<v Speaker 8>co mission when you're trying to do something, rather than

2401
01:51:08.840 --> 01:51:12.119
<v Speaker 8>errors of oh mission, where you're just not trying at all,

2402
01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:15.520
<v Speaker 8>or you're afraid that you're going to fail. So he's

2403
01:51:15.560 --> 01:51:18.199
<v Speaker 8>a guy who's got to show them that as he

2404
01:51:18.760 --> 01:51:22.399
<v Speaker 8>continues his development here in year two, that he's getting stronger,

2405
01:51:22.840 --> 01:51:26.800
<v Speaker 8>that he can play with some more commitment when he

2406
01:51:26.840 --> 01:51:29.159
<v Speaker 8>has the ball in his hands, and then to try

2407
01:51:29.159 --> 01:51:32.239
<v Speaker 8>and be some kind of a presence defensively with not

2408
01:51:32.279 --> 01:51:35.000
<v Speaker 8>only his length but his agility to be able to

2409
01:51:35.359 --> 01:51:38.279
<v Speaker 8>guard both out on the wing and then in the post.

2410
01:51:38.399 --> 01:51:40.800
<v Speaker 8>That's what they're going to be looking for him in

2411
01:51:40.920 --> 01:51:43.199
<v Speaker 8>year two. But he's not going to fly off the

2412
01:51:43.239 --> 01:51:46.199
<v Speaker 8>page of Spence. He's not going to have a Donovan

2413
01:51:46.199 --> 01:51:50.680
<v Speaker 8>Mitchell type rising in the first two months where everybody's going, whoa, whoa,

2414
01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:54.800
<v Speaker 8>this is a guy. But you want to see incrementally

2415
01:51:54.840 --> 01:51:56.760
<v Speaker 8>in him because he's young and you got to give

2416
01:51:56.840 --> 01:51:59.520
<v Speaker 8>him time to get his feet on the ground.

2417
01:52:00.479 --> 01:52:03.880
<v Speaker 2>So, as we've discussed, and I continued to maintain that

2418
01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I was a little bit surprised that the Jazz used

2419
01:52:06.159 --> 01:52:08.720
<v Speaker 2>all three of their draft picks last year. But they did,

2420
01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:11.359
<v Speaker 2>and maybe it's because the three guys that were available

2421
01:52:11.439 --> 01:52:15.119
<v Speaker 2>that they wanted were available. Maybe it's because, as Justin said,

2422
01:52:15.119 --> 01:52:16.840
<v Speaker 2>they tried to make a lot of deals and couldn't

2423
01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:18.720
<v Speaker 2>get anything done. I don't know, but we do have

2424
01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:21.680
<v Speaker 2>three rookies on this team, and we'll go in order here.

2425
01:52:21.760 --> 01:52:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Cody Williams the.

2426
01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Lottery pick at only nineteen.

2427
01:52:25.399 --> 01:52:27.720
<v Speaker 2>He's got a big bro who's a really good NBA player,

2428
01:52:27.920 --> 01:52:30.880
<v Speaker 2>and like Taylor, he's built really well for the modern

2429
01:52:30.960 --> 01:52:33.680
<v Speaker 2>day wing, although probably could use to put on a

2430
01:52:33.680 --> 01:52:36.520
<v Speaker 2>little weight, but at only nineteen, that will come with time.

2431
01:52:37.199 --> 01:52:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Looks like he will be a part of the rotation

2432
01:52:38.960 --> 01:52:41.159
<v Speaker 2>pretty quickly. We'll see what it looks like tonight. You're

2433
01:52:41.199 --> 01:52:43.960
<v Speaker 2>one expectations for young Cody Williams.

2434
01:52:44.359 --> 01:52:47.840
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, he's got to just show some consistency in knowing

2435
01:52:47.880 --> 01:52:51.560
<v Speaker 8>what's going out on the floor night in and night out.

2436
01:52:51.600 --> 01:52:53.920
<v Speaker 8>He's got to be able to be in the right spots.

2437
01:52:54.279 --> 01:52:57.800
<v Speaker 8>He's got to know rotations. He's got to understand what

2438
01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:02.520
<v Speaker 8>the physicality of the NBA is all about. His brother

2439
01:53:02.760 --> 01:53:07.199
<v Speaker 8>is a is a tremendous player, uh and really getting

2440
01:53:07.239 --> 01:53:10.319
<v Speaker 8>better for okayc and he's and you know, if he

2441
01:53:10.399 --> 01:53:13.680
<v Speaker 8>can play, you know at that you know, approach that

2442
01:53:13.880 --> 01:53:17.319
<v Speaker 8>kind of a level, uh, in terms of intensity, in

2443
01:53:17.439 --> 01:53:20.800
<v Speaker 8>terms of how he approaches the game every night. Then

2444
01:53:20.840 --> 01:53:23.520
<v Speaker 8>he's gonna get more minutes and he's gonna get more

2445
01:53:23.560 --> 01:53:27.159
<v Speaker 8>opportunities to show what he can do. But this none

2446
01:53:27.199 --> 01:53:29.800
<v Speaker 8>of the spence. And I know it sounds like we're

2447
01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:32.680
<v Speaker 8>beating a dead horse because we've been saying it for

2448
01:53:32.680 --> 01:53:35.640
<v Speaker 8>a while now, but but it's it's really true. This

2449
01:53:35.720 --> 01:53:38.840
<v Speaker 8>is not gonna be some overnight fixed thing and an

2450
01:53:38.840 --> 01:53:42.560
<v Speaker 8>overnight sensation with these young guys. They're gonna get minutes,

2451
01:53:42.920 --> 01:53:47.600
<v Speaker 8>they're gonna make mistakes, they're gonna have bad nights, and

2452
01:53:47.640 --> 01:53:50.600
<v Speaker 8>it's gonna be frustrating for fans, But you're gonna be

2453
01:53:50.680 --> 01:53:56.159
<v Speaker 8>looking for how guys like Williams are getting better from

2454
01:53:56.279 --> 01:53:59.560
<v Speaker 8>game to game. Are they getting stronger, Are they getting

2455
01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:02.800
<v Speaker 8>a little little bit more savvy about how the NBA

2456
01:54:03.000 --> 01:54:07.000
<v Speaker 8>game is played, especially on the defensive end, in terms

2457
01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:08.960
<v Speaker 8>of being able to stay in front of guys or

2458
01:54:09.159 --> 01:54:13.520
<v Speaker 8>understanding defensive rotations. And he's a guy that's that's gonna

2459
01:54:13.640 --> 01:54:16.399
<v Speaker 8>he's gonna get chances, and he's gonna have little glimpses

2460
01:54:16.439 --> 01:54:18.800
<v Speaker 8>of what he can do, and then he's gonna make

2461
01:54:18.800 --> 01:54:22.399
<v Speaker 8>a bunch of mistakes and he's either gonna be overwhelmed physically,

2462
01:54:23.039 --> 01:54:26.199
<v Speaker 8>or he's gonna be overwhelmed by his lack of of

2463
01:54:26.439 --> 01:54:31.119
<v Speaker 8>NBA game maturity, if you will. So they but he's

2464
01:54:31.159 --> 01:54:33.760
<v Speaker 8>gonna get a lot of run with this team to

2465
01:54:33.880 --> 01:54:37.159
<v Speaker 8>show what he might be able to do in the

2466
01:54:37.199 --> 01:54:38.279
<v Speaker 8>long run for them.

2467
01:54:39.439 --> 01:54:41.119
<v Speaker 1>All right, two more young players.

2468
01:54:41.199 --> 01:54:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Isaiah Collier is not available tonight due to injury or illness.

2469
01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:48.399
<v Speaker 2>I didn't check out the injury, but it looks like, uh,

2470
01:54:48.479 --> 01:54:50.920
<v Speaker 2>he might start in the G League. We'll get to Philipowski,

2471
01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:52.680
<v Speaker 2>who I heard is going to start in the G League,

2472
01:54:52.680 --> 01:54:53.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's what the G League's for.

2473
01:54:53.720 --> 01:54:54.319
<v Speaker 1>That's fine.

2474
01:54:54.840 --> 01:54:56.840
<v Speaker 2>Isaiah was one of the best high school players in

2475
01:54:56.840 --> 01:54:59.279
<v Speaker 2>his class. He was one of those players. It was

2476
01:54:59.279 --> 01:55:02.039
<v Speaker 2>a little bit like my Michael Porter junior who got

2477
01:55:02.119 --> 01:55:04.479
<v Speaker 2>hurt at Missouri. But if he came out of high school,

2478
01:55:04.479 --> 01:55:06.439
<v Speaker 2>he may have been the number one overall pick. Isaiah

2479
01:55:06.439 --> 01:55:08.640
<v Speaker 2>would have been like a top three pick if he

2480
01:55:08.680 --> 01:55:10.920
<v Speaker 2>was able to come out of high school. Goes to

2481
01:55:11.000 --> 01:55:13.640
<v Speaker 2>Southern cal for a year where the situation was how

2482
01:55:13.680 --> 01:55:16.640
<v Speaker 2>shall we say, not awesome, and then falls to the

2483
01:55:16.720 --> 01:55:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Jets and they end up going with him with the

2484
01:55:18.520 --> 01:55:21.640
<v Speaker 2>number twenty nine pick. There's a lot to like about

2485
01:55:21.640 --> 01:55:22.399
<v Speaker 2>his skill.

2486
01:55:22.159 --> 01:55:23.199
<v Speaker 1>Set as elite guard.

2487
01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:26.479
<v Speaker 2>But again, when you're that young, without the experience, he's

2488
01:55:26.479 --> 01:55:29.239
<v Speaker 2>not getting the keys of the car. So incremental growth,

2489
01:55:29.279 --> 01:55:31.199
<v Speaker 2>step by step. What does it look like for Isaiah

2490
01:55:31.199 --> 01:55:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Collier this year.

2491
01:55:33.159 --> 01:55:36.680
<v Speaker 8>Well, he's going to have to show that again like

2492
01:55:36.680 --> 01:55:40.119
<v Speaker 8>we mentioned earlier with the George kid, he's got to

2493
01:55:40.199 --> 01:55:43.760
<v Speaker 8>be able to show that he has tighter handles, that

2494
01:55:43.880 --> 01:55:47.399
<v Speaker 8>he can control an offense. He is a natural point

2495
01:55:47.399 --> 01:55:50.640
<v Speaker 8>guard in terms of feel, in terms of court vision,

2496
01:55:51.319 --> 01:55:55.000
<v Speaker 8>the way he plays sometimes I think he takes too

2497
01:55:55.039 --> 01:55:59.199
<v Speaker 8>many chances with the ball, and then at USC he

2498
01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:02.319
<v Speaker 8>had a lot of un force turnovers. I thought. In

2499
01:56:02.319 --> 01:56:05.880
<v Speaker 8>the summer League and in the in the few preseason

2500
01:56:05.960 --> 01:56:09.119
<v Speaker 8>games that he was available and played minutes in the

2501
01:56:09.159 --> 01:56:12.199
<v Speaker 8>same thing, he showed flashes of being able to see

2502
01:56:12.199 --> 01:56:15.960
<v Speaker 8>the floor, being able to find guys cutting baseline, find

2503
01:56:16.000 --> 01:56:19.600
<v Speaker 8>guys on the opposite wing, make something happen that way.

2504
01:56:20.079 --> 01:56:23.560
<v Speaker 8>But too often he's a little loose with his his

2505
01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:28.720
<v Speaker 8>passing and with his reading the play and then trying

2506
01:56:28.720 --> 01:56:31.680
<v Speaker 8>to make something happen. So he's got to probably dial

2507
01:56:31.720 --> 01:56:35.479
<v Speaker 8>it back half a notch in terms of his aggressiveness

2508
01:56:35.640 --> 01:56:38.520
<v Speaker 8>just trying to force the issue let plays come to you.

2509
01:56:38.720 --> 01:56:41.760
<v Speaker 8>Let make the easy play, make the easy skip pass,

2510
01:56:42.119 --> 01:56:45.199
<v Speaker 8>whatever it is, just getting a flow, get a feel

2511
01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:48.880
<v Speaker 8>for what's going on. Again, being a young guy first

2512
01:56:49.000 --> 01:56:52.159
<v Speaker 8>year in the league, he's going to get opportunities with

2513
01:56:52.199 --> 01:56:56.520
<v Speaker 8>this team. He's going to make mistakes, he's going to

2514
01:56:56.600 --> 01:56:59.199
<v Speaker 8>be frustrating nights, you know, with him, but you're gonna

2515
01:56:59.199 --> 01:57:02.279
<v Speaker 8>see some flash of things that he has a natural

2516
01:57:02.279 --> 01:57:05.760
<v Speaker 8>ability to do, and then it's a case of him

2517
01:57:06.239 --> 01:57:09.439
<v Speaker 8>growing through those mistakes and learning. And that's what's gonna happen. Spence,

2518
01:57:09.479 --> 01:57:12.279
<v Speaker 8>You've got so many young guys who are gonna get time.

2519
01:57:12.760 --> 01:57:14.840
<v Speaker 8>What's gonna happen in the first half of the year,

2520
01:57:14.880 --> 01:57:18.479
<v Speaker 8>in my opinion, is that one of them is gonna

2521
01:57:18.520 --> 01:57:21.439
<v Speaker 8>start rising to the top. In other words, one is

2522
01:57:21.479 --> 01:57:24.800
<v Speaker 8>gonna look better than the other guys in terms of

2523
01:57:25.199 --> 01:57:29.479
<v Speaker 8>how he's progressing, how he's improving from night to night,

2524
01:57:29.760 --> 01:57:32.159
<v Speaker 8>and fans are gonna be able to see that. And

2525
01:57:32.199 --> 01:57:34.359
<v Speaker 8>I think then what's gonna happen is that fans are

2526
01:57:34.399 --> 01:57:37.359
<v Speaker 8>gonna start locking on to that guy as one of

2527
01:57:37.399 --> 01:57:40.680
<v Speaker 8>their fan favorites and they're gonna say, Okay, he's the

2528
01:57:40.680 --> 01:57:44.039
<v Speaker 8>next guy who's gonna help market in get this thing

2529
01:57:44.119 --> 01:57:46.560
<v Speaker 8>going in the right direction. But who is that going

2530
01:57:46.640 --> 01:57:50.319
<v Speaker 8>to be? Who knows? That's that's why they're gonna be

2531
01:57:50.439 --> 01:57:53.279
<v Speaker 8>throwing them all through the sister and trying to see

2532
01:57:53.319 --> 01:57:56.720
<v Speaker 8>if they can find a gold nugget somewhere along the way.

2533
01:57:57.520 --> 01:57:59.520
<v Speaker 2>All right, may last thing, then we'll set you lose.

2534
01:57:59.560 --> 01:58:02.079
<v Speaker 2>So men, this is in town tonight. And they had

2535
01:58:02.439 --> 01:58:06.119
<v Speaker 2>excuse me that a chaotic year. Last year, Job played

2536
01:58:06.199 --> 01:58:10.880
<v Speaker 2>nine games, Marcus Smart played twenty. They sat I think

2537
01:58:11.399 --> 01:58:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Desmond Baine played half the year. They sat a lot

2538
01:58:14.119 --> 01:58:16.479
<v Speaker 2>of players down the stretch to get healthy this year.

2539
01:58:17.000 --> 01:58:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Now tonight, there's no Jared Jackson junior, or he might

2540
01:58:19.239 --> 01:58:22.239
<v Speaker 2>be their second best player. There's no Luke Canard, there's

2541
01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:25.199
<v Speaker 2>no Gg Jackson, Cam Spencer their rookie from Yukon, and

2542
01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:28.119
<v Speaker 2>Vince Williams. They're a little banged up. They're a slight

2543
01:58:28.159 --> 01:58:31.199
<v Speaker 2>favorite at home. What do you see happening tonight? What

2544
01:58:31.239 --> 01:58:32.359
<v Speaker 2>do you you know?

2545
01:58:32.399 --> 01:58:34.279
<v Speaker 1>What are some of the matchups you'll be looking for?

2546
01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Do we see a little.

2547
01:58:35.439 --> 01:58:37.479
<v Speaker 2>Taylor Hendrick's not Job Moran? What do you expect them

2548
01:58:37.479 --> 01:58:39.399
<v Speaker 2>to see? Is the Jazz take on the Grizzlies tonight?

2549
01:58:40.760 --> 01:58:42.960
<v Speaker 8>Well, I think that, you know, they lean a lot

2550
01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:46.800
<v Speaker 8>on John Moran and him having a solid year coming

2551
01:58:46.880 --> 01:58:50.520
<v Speaker 8>back is going to be key for how Memphis season

2552
01:58:50.600 --> 01:58:53.640
<v Speaker 8>goes on. You know, coming out of the blocks, having

2553
01:58:53.840 --> 01:58:57.199
<v Speaker 8>several guys including Jackson, who's who's one of their main

2554
01:58:57.239 --> 01:59:00.800
<v Speaker 8>guys not in the lineup, that that gets you off

2555
01:59:00.840 --> 01:59:02.960
<v Speaker 8>to a little bit of a bumpy start at the

2556
01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:05.800
<v Speaker 8>beginning of the year. But they have all the makings

2557
01:59:05.840 --> 01:59:09.039
<v Speaker 8>of being a good team. Uh, Zach Edie is going

2558
01:59:09.119 --> 01:59:12.880
<v Speaker 8>to be a better NBA player, I think than people

2559
01:59:13.239 --> 01:59:17.399
<v Speaker 8>are expecting of him. He's he's a smart kid. Uh

2560
01:59:17.680 --> 01:59:20.760
<v Speaker 8>He's a kid who will play within himself and their

2561
01:59:20.800 --> 01:59:23.439
<v Speaker 8>team will learn how to play off of him and

2562
01:59:23.520 --> 01:59:26.960
<v Speaker 8>his size. You know, he's going to be an interesting

2563
01:59:27.000 --> 01:59:31.000
<v Speaker 8>guy to watch as the season unfolds for them. But

2564
01:59:31.239 --> 01:59:35.800
<v Speaker 8>their team goes as Moran goes. And if he's healthy

2565
01:59:36.439 --> 01:59:40.760
<v Speaker 8>and he's got his bounce going and he's got his confidence,

2566
01:59:40.840 --> 01:59:43.600
<v Speaker 8>his swagger going, which is a big part of his

2567
01:59:43.760 --> 01:59:47.359
<v Speaker 8>skill set, then Memphis is going to have a very

2568
01:59:47.359 --> 01:59:50.239
<v Speaker 8>good chance to be back in the mix where they

2569
01:59:50.239 --> 01:59:53.439
<v Speaker 8>were two years ago when those guys were healthy and

2570
01:59:53.479 --> 01:59:55.199
<v Speaker 8>they and they had an excellent year.

2571
01:59:56.119 --> 01:59:58.479
<v Speaker 2>A Timeddy, Thanks for the time, man. Enjoy the game

2572
01:59:58.520 --> 02:00:00.079
<v Speaker 2>and look forward to seeing you assume.

2573
02:00:01.479 --> 02:00:02.119
<v Speaker 8>Appreciate it.

2574
02:00:02.239 --> 02:00:03.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, the great Richard Smith.

2575
02:00:04.119 --> 02:00:06.800
<v Speaker 2>All right, five o'clock hour of the Drive starts right

2576
02:00:06.840 --> 02:00:08.880
<v Speaker 2>now on this lovely Wednesday evening.

2577
02:00:09.039 --> 02:00:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Happy Wednesday to you. You're halfway through your work week.

2578
02:00:11.680 --> 02:00:15.159
<v Speaker 2>You are one day closer to the weekend Thursday at

2579
02:00:15.199 --> 02:00:17.880
<v Speaker 2>football in the NFL gets rolling tomorrow. So NFL news,

2580
02:00:17.920 --> 02:00:20.159
<v Speaker 2>by the way, looks like New Copkins is on his

2581
02:00:20.239 --> 02:00:23.720
<v Speaker 2>way to Kansas City. The Chiefs are reportedly trading at

2582
02:00:23.760 --> 02:00:28.079
<v Speaker 2>fifth round pick Tennessee in exchange for DeAndre Hopkins. Obviously,

2583
02:00:28.159 --> 02:00:32.079
<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs having a ton of injury issues at that position,

2584
02:00:32.159 --> 02:00:35.159
<v Speaker 2>and my goodness, I think the potential of Patrick Mahomes

2585
02:00:35.239 --> 02:00:38.399
<v Speaker 2>and New Copkins is pretty exciting. Janis Winston is going

2586
02:00:38.439 --> 02:00:40.439
<v Speaker 2>to get the start for the Browns against the Ravens

2587
02:00:40.439 --> 02:00:44.199
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday. Jayden Daniels held out of practice today. He's

2588
02:00:44.279 --> 02:00:46.600
<v Speaker 2>questionable for the weekend. He's having a great rookie year.

2589
02:00:46.760 --> 02:00:49.720
<v Speaker 2>So your pro football weekend will get rolling tomorrow. The

2590
02:00:49.840 --> 02:00:53.039
<v Speaker 2>NBA opened up last night, and the Jazz get going tonight.

2591
02:00:53.239 --> 02:00:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Jazz take on the Grizzlies coming up at the Delta Center.

2592
02:00:55.800 --> 02:00:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Going to be down there to check out opening night.

2593
02:00:58.720 --> 02:01:00.680
<v Speaker 2>John Morantz will be in action.

2594
02:01:00.840 --> 02:01:02.119
<v Speaker 1>He is back on the team.

2595
02:01:02.640 --> 02:01:06.239
<v Speaker 2>He is box office, although hopefully he's learned some lessons

2596
02:01:06.239 --> 02:01:07.760
<v Speaker 2>so he stays on the floor this year.

2597
02:01:08.399 --> 02:01:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Only played in nine games.

2598
02:01:10.000 --> 02:01:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Last year, John did and Memphis had a chaotic season,

2599
02:01:13.000 --> 02:01:15.800
<v Speaker 2>but they're thought to be among the contenders, certainly for

2600
02:01:15.840 --> 02:01:18.720
<v Speaker 2>a playoff spot. I think they're over under in Vegas

2601
02:01:18.840 --> 02:01:20.840
<v Speaker 2>is forty seven point five, while the Jazz are I

2602
02:01:20.880 --> 02:01:23.720
<v Speaker 2>think twenty eight point five. So should be a fun

2603
02:01:23.760 --> 02:01:25.960
<v Speaker 2>game tonight. Hopefully guys are heading down to the arena.

2604
02:01:25.960 --> 02:01:28.279
<v Speaker 2>If you're driving down right now, we appreciate you tuning

2605
02:01:28.319 --> 02:01:29.760
<v Speaker 2>in on this Wednesday.

2606
02:01:29.800 --> 02:01:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Memphis a two point five point favorite.

2607
02:01:31.840 --> 02:01:35.640
<v Speaker 2>They will be without four rotational pieces in Jaron Jackson, Junior,

2608
02:01:36.239 --> 02:01:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Luke Canard, GG Jackson, Cam Spencer as well. So look,

2609
02:01:40.159 --> 02:01:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people were knocking on Cam

2610
02:01:42.119 --> 02:01:45.920
<v Speaker 2>Rising for not playing after well being a paid athlete. Well,

2611
02:01:46.000 --> 02:01:49.680
<v Speaker 2>NBA basketball where load management happens. And it's already been

2612
02:01:49.680 --> 02:01:53.119
<v Speaker 2>announced that the league is going to investigate the Philadelphia

2613
02:01:53.159 --> 02:01:56.520
<v Speaker 2>seventy six ers over Joel Embeid sitting out the first

2614
02:01:56.520 --> 02:01:59.279
<v Speaker 2>week of the season. Paul George also will not play.

2615
02:01:59.359 --> 02:02:02.359
<v Speaker 2>Kawhi is out for an extended period of time. Yes,

2616
02:02:02.399 --> 02:02:04.760
<v Speaker 2>injuries suck, but this dynamic of this league will never

2617
02:02:04.840 --> 02:02:07.399
<v Speaker 2>be something I'm totally comfortable with.

2618
02:02:07.520 --> 02:02:09.279
<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what the Jazz are able to do.

2619
02:02:09.359 --> 02:02:12.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm expecting the same starting five they used throughout the preseason,

2620
02:02:13.560 --> 02:02:17.159
<v Speaker 2>and as Justin's Danny Ainge Ryan Smith have told us

2621
02:02:17.239 --> 02:02:17.760
<v Speaker 2>during their.

2622
02:02:17.760 --> 02:02:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Media availability, this is going to be about development.

2623
02:02:20.960 --> 02:02:23.399
<v Speaker 2>It's going to be about incremental improvement, brick by brick,

2624
02:02:23.479 --> 02:02:25.800
<v Speaker 2>step by step, and that's how this stuff works unless

2625
02:02:25.840 --> 02:02:27.800
<v Speaker 2>you are a unicorn, and I hate to say it,

2626
02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:30.760
<v Speaker 2>there's not a unicorn on this roster. We're not going

2627
02:02:30.840 --> 02:02:34.079
<v Speaker 2>to see some sort of burst on the scene, kind

2628
02:02:34.079 --> 02:02:36.199
<v Speaker 2>of like what we saw from Donovan when he had

2629
02:02:36.199 --> 02:02:39.359
<v Speaker 2>that forty point game against the Pelicans' rookie year. But

2630
02:02:39.439 --> 02:02:42.640
<v Speaker 2>we'd seen signs of that from Mitchell during summer league.

2631
02:02:42.720 --> 02:02:44.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, he had a great summer league. I don't

2632
02:02:44.840 --> 02:02:46.359
<v Speaker 2>think anybody thought he was going to be what he

2633
02:02:46.439 --> 02:02:47.920
<v Speaker 2>was as a rookie. Should have been a Rookie of

2634
02:02:47.960 --> 02:02:49.840
<v Speaker 2>the Year. It went to a second year player, which

2635
02:02:49.880 --> 02:02:52.560
<v Speaker 2>is a weird rule. Ben Simmons won it. So we've

2636
02:02:52.560 --> 02:02:54.960
<v Speaker 2>seen spurts from Keyante, but I don't think we're going

2637
02:02:55.039 --> 02:02:57.199
<v Speaker 2>to see some massive step up where we're going to

2638
02:02:57.359 --> 02:03:01.159
<v Speaker 2>view him as some superstar. AM excited to see how

2639
02:03:01.239 --> 02:03:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Will Hardy ingratiates the young guys into the lineup. Starting

2640
02:03:04.840 --> 02:03:07.600
<v Speaker 2>lineup for the Jazz during the preseason, Kyante, George, Colin,

2641
02:03:07.680 --> 02:03:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Sexton Lowry Marketing, Taylor Hendricks and John Coyle excuse me,

2642
02:03:11.159 --> 02:03:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Walker Kessler in for John Collins. So that was kind

2643
02:03:14.399 --> 02:03:17.159
<v Speaker 2>of your one change. John Collins goes to the bench,

2644
02:03:17.199 --> 02:03:19.880
<v Speaker 2>Walker Kessler. We'll get the start, at least that's what

2645
02:03:20.000 --> 02:03:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I anticipate, and I guess we'll only know when Will

2646
02:03:23.119 --> 02:03:26.520
<v Speaker 2>rolls out the lineup as far as rotationally, what does

2647
02:03:26.560 --> 02:03:30.479
<v Speaker 2>it look like. So if the deal is development, if

2648
02:03:30.479 --> 02:03:33.239
<v Speaker 2>the deal is playing and learning about the young players

2649
02:03:33.800 --> 02:03:36.159
<v Speaker 2>to see what sort of hand you've been dealt, you know,

2650
02:03:36.199 --> 02:03:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and Justin Zanik has said we're not going to go

2651
02:03:37.920 --> 02:03:41.079
<v Speaker 2>seven for seven. They have seven players under the age

2652
02:03:41.079 --> 02:03:44.760
<v Speaker 2>of twenty three, So if the goal is to learn

2653
02:03:45.039 --> 02:03:47.520
<v Speaker 2>more about the second year guys, to learn more about

2654
02:03:47.600 --> 02:03:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Kyante and Bryce and potentially, you know, seeing how it

2655
02:03:51.880 --> 02:03:53.960
<v Speaker 2>goes with Taylor Hendricks, who I do believe we'll start

2656
02:03:54.000 --> 02:03:56.399
<v Speaker 2>and play big minutes, and then you know the young

2657
02:03:56.399 --> 02:03:58.640
<v Speaker 2>players as well, the rookies who were all going to

2658
02:03:58.720 --> 02:04:01.239
<v Speaker 2>learn about. I do believe Kyle Philipowski will start to

2659
02:04:01.319 --> 02:04:04.560
<v Speaker 2>league out of the rotation, start the season, I should say,

2660
02:04:04.560 --> 02:04:07.319
<v Speaker 2>out of the rotation, and potentially spend a lot of

2661
02:04:07.319 --> 02:04:09.279
<v Speaker 2>time in the G League. I don't love it when

2662
02:04:09.279 --> 02:04:12.039
<v Speaker 2>people get upset when rookies are in the G League.

2663
02:04:12.079 --> 02:04:15.079
<v Speaker 2>It's literally why it's there, and it doesn't matter who

2664
02:04:15.119 --> 02:04:18.439
<v Speaker 2>you are. You know, top picks come back from injuries.

2665
02:04:18.520 --> 02:04:20.039
<v Speaker 2>They kind of get their rhythm back in the G

2666
02:04:20.159 --> 02:04:22.880
<v Speaker 2>League before they're ready to play with the varsity. As

2667
02:04:22.880 --> 02:04:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Gordy Chiasa would say, so the second year players, Kanta, George, Taylor, Hendricks,

2668
02:04:27.199 --> 02:04:30.359
<v Speaker 2>Price Sensiba, like I said, Kyle Philipowski, I think, will

2669
02:04:30.359 --> 02:04:31.880
<v Speaker 2>start in the G League, which is fine.

2670
02:04:32.119 --> 02:04:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah Collier is out tonight.

2671
02:04:33.920 --> 02:04:36.399
<v Speaker 2>He is not going to be available, which means Patty

2672
02:04:36.439 --> 02:04:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Mills will probably be the first guard off the bench.

2673
02:04:38.600 --> 02:04:41.920
<v Speaker 1>He or Jordan Clarkson. Patty will back up Keyante. They're

2674
02:04:41.960 --> 02:04:44.720
<v Speaker 1>interested to see what that looks like, though.

2675
02:04:45.199 --> 02:04:47.920
<v Speaker 2>If the task is to learn about the young players,

2676
02:04:48.079 --> 02:04:49.880
<v Speaker 2>and there's a night and it could happen as early

2677
02:04:49.920 --> 02:04:53.840
<v Speaker 2>as tonight where Keyante is two of thirteen with five

2678
02:04:53.960 --> 02:04:55.840
<v Speaker 2>turnovers and you're down.

2679
02:04:55.680 --> 02:04:56.880
<v Speaker 1>Twelve fourteen points.

2680
02:04:57.439 --> 02:05:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Will will lean into the veteran that he has on

2681
02:05:01.000 --> 02:05:02.840
<v Speaker 2>his team and give Patty Mills more minutes.

2682
02:05:02.880 --> 02:05:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, my initial reaction is for what, like why?

2683
02:05:06.960 --> 02:05:09.159
<v Speaker 2>But Will is whired just like all these other coaches.

2684
02:05:09.199 --> 02:05:10.840
<v Speaker 2>All they want to do is win every night. And

2685
02:05:10.880 --> 02:05:14.079
<v Speaker 2>if he thinks playing Jordan Clarkson a little bit more

2686
02:05:14.239 --> 02:05:17.199
<v Speaker 2>or Patty Mills instead of Keyante, George or Isaiah Callier,

2687
02:05:17.399 --> 02:05:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Will will do that because the goal is to win.

2688
02:05:21.399 --> 02:05:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Or will he let these rookies ride with their mistakes

2689
02:05:24.039 --> 02:05:26.119
<v Speaker 2>because the goal is to develop. I honestly don't know

2690
02:05:26.159 --> 02:05:29.399
<v Speaker 2>the answer to it. You know, if Taylor Hendrick has

2691
02:05:29.439 --> 02:05:31.720
<v Speaker 2>a game where he's losing a little focus like we

2692
02:05:31.760 --> 02:05:34.239
<v Speaker 2>saw last year, or simply as a twenty year old

2693
02:05:34.279 --> 02:05:37.520
<v Speaker 2>it looks overwhelmed. Will we actually see a little bit

2694
02:05:37.560 --> 02:05:41.359
<v Speaker 2>of Drew Eubanks, you know, coming in and providing that veteran,

2695
02:05:41.399 --> 02:05:44.760
<v Speaker 2>grown up presence. If Walker Kessler, as he is wont

2696
02:05:44.800 --> 02:05:46.960
<v Speaker 2>to do from time to time, plays with less than

2697
02:05:47.479 --> 02:05:50.960
<v Speaker 2>acceptable physicality and force. Are we going to see Heaven

2698
02:05:51.039 --> 02:05:54.520
<v Speaker 2>forbid big John Collins minutes again? I honestly don't know.

2699
02:05:54.560 --> 02:05:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I can't really make that assertion. I mean, you know

2700
02:05:57.640 --> 02:06:00.479
<v Speaker 2>where I stand with his team. Ultimately, I don't agree

2701
02:06:00.520 --> 02:06:02.920
<v Speaker 2>with the approach of existing in the middle and hoping

2702
02:06:02.960 --> 02:06:05.600
<v Speaker 2>for Lady luck to shine upon you. But I will

2703
02:06:05.640 --> 02:06:08.399
<v Speaker 2>say this, The Athletic did a really good five part

2704
02:06:08.479 --> 02:06:12.520
<v Speaker 2>piece NBA preview, and really it walks you through and

2705
02:06:12.720 --> 02:06:16.920
<v Speaker 2>the modern day landscape of pro basketball, the collective bargaining agreement.

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<v Speaker 1>And Adam Silver's quest, even though he won't say.

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<v Speaker 2>It out loud, to bring parody to pro basketball in

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02:06:22.600 --> 02:06:24.399
<v Speaker 2>a way that they have in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, the Boston Celtics last year.

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02:06:26.520 --> 02:06:29.960
<v Speaker 2>Became the sixth straight NBA champion six years, we've had

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<v Speaker 2>six different better way to say that, we've had six

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02:06:32.399 --> 02:06:33.960
<v Speaker 2>different NBA champs in six.

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<v Speaker 1>Years the Celtics wanted a year ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me pause and say this, Boston just might spoil

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02:06:40.319 --> 02:06:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Adam Silver's plan to try.

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02:06:42.359 --> 02:06:45.520
<v Speaker 1>To find parody. At least for now. I have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Feeling that this is the best team in the league

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<v Speaker 2>by far. It's not a hot take. That won the

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02:06:49.760 --> 02:06:53.840
<v Speaker 2>championship last year. But if you watched the game last night,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Knicks are going to be in trouble because

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<v Speaker 2>they have a Karl Anthony Towns problem, and they have

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02:06:58.399 --> 02:07:00.359
<v Speaker 2>a Karl Anthony Towns problem with out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of defensive center behind Cat.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I worked in Minnesota because Gobert was there

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02:07:05.239 --> 02:07:07.600
<v Speaker 2>to provide the rim protection. Maybe the Knicks get Mitchell

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02:07:07.640 --> 02:07:10.279
<v Speaker 2>Robinson back and he helps out a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 2>all Boston did it wasn't even creative. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>why Cat only played twenty four minutes. Joe Mizzoula essentially said, look,

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02:07:17.800 --> 02:07:20.119
<v Speaker 2>whether it was Tatum, whether it was brown, whether it

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02:07:20.159 --> 02:07:23.800
<v Speaker 2>was white, whether it's Holiday, whoever the primary ball handler is.

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02:07:23.840 --> 02:07:26.159
<v Speaker 2>They walked the man the Cat was guarding up to,

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<v Speaker 2>said the screen, they got the switch, they beat him

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02:07:28.920 --> 02:07:31.359
<v Speaker 2>one on one for buckets, or they beat him one

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02:07:31.399 --> 02:07:34.399
<v Speaker 2>on one, swing pass, swing pass, three point shot wide open.

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<v Speaker 2>Boston averaged I think forty nine threes per game last year,

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<v Speaker 2>which was an NBA record. They shot sixty one threes

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<v Speaker 2>last night. They only made twenty nine, but they missed

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<v Speaker 2>their last thirteen because twenty nine is the NBA record.

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02:07:48.159 --> 02:07:50.399
<v Speaker 2>No one's ever got to thirty, and so they were

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02:07:50.439 --> 02:07:52.439
<v Speaker 2>trying to break the record, but they could not hit

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02:07:52.479 --> 02:07:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the shots.

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02:07:53.000 --> 02:07:55.039
<v Speaker 1>When it was Sam Howser, who's a good shooter. Peyton

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02:07:55.079 --> 02:07:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Pritchard was one of nine, but they shot sixty one threes.

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02:07:59.479 --> 02:08:03.039
<v Speaker 2>Made nine, and they just smoked Who a lot of

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02:08:03.039 --> 02:08:04.960
<v Speaker 2>people believe is the second best team in the East,

2746
02:08:04.960 --> 02:08:07.239
<v Speaker 2>and that's the New York Knicks. So maybe the Knicks

2747
02:08:07.279 --> 02:08:10.239
<v Speaker 2>get Mitchell Robinson back, but the Celtics are the team

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02:08:10.319 --> 02:08:13.600
<v Speaker 2>that might just spoil this entire parody situation. But I

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02:08:13.600 --> 02:08:15.640
<v Speaker 2>would encourage you to go read through it if you're

2750
02:08:15.680 --> 02:08:18.640
<v Speaker 2>curious about where the league's at right now, because there

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02:08:18.680 --> 02:08:20.920
<v Speaker 2>is a case to be made with a bit and

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02:08:20.960 --> 02:08:22.279
<v Speaker 2>I know you're gonna roll your eyes if you're a

2753
02:08:22.319 --> 02:08:23.720
<v Speaker 2>Jazz fan, you're sick of hearing about this.

2754
02:08:23.840 --> 02:08:25.680
<v Speaker 1>But they do have a treasure trove of picks.

2755
02:08:26.319 --> 02:08:28.920
<v Speaker 2>The Gobaar and Mitchell picks start to convey this year

2756
02:08:28.920 --> 02:08:30.199
<v Speaker 2>from Cleveland and Minnesota.

2757
02:08:30.640 --> 02:08:32.039
<v Speaker 1>Their books are incredibly clean.

2758
02:08:32.119 --> 02:08:35.079
<v Speaker 2>They have a bunch of young players, and there will

2759
02:08:35.079 --> 02:08:37.319
<v Speaker 2>be teams that are strapped and as a result of

2760
02:08:37.359 --> 02:08:40.479
<v Speaker 2>the second apron and now computitive that is even for billionaires.

2761
02:08:40.960 --> 02:08:44.079
<v Speaker 2>We've already seen the Clippers lose some talent because of

2762
02:08:44.119 --> 02:08:46.239
<v Speaker 2>the second Apron. We've already seen the Nuggets lose some

2763
02:08:46.319 --> 02:08:48.600
<v Speaker 2>talent because of the second Apron. There's gonna be a

2764
02:08:48.600 --> 02:08:50.560
<v Speaker 2>team this year that has a payroll that's super high,

2765
02:08:50.600 --> 02:08:53.039
<v Speaker 2>that gets off to a bad start and they're gonna say,

2766
02:08:53.039 --> 02:08:55.079
<v Speaker 2>we got to shed someone, we gotta get rid of salary,

2767
02:08:55.479 --> 02:08:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and they might want to get rid of a really

2768
02:08:56.920 --> 02:08:59.800
<v Speaker 2>good player because they're not performing up to expectations that

2769
02:08:59.840 --> 02:09:01.800
<v Speaker 2>you as are one of three or four teams that

2770
02:09:01.880 --> 02:09:05.119
<v Speaker 2>will receive those phone calls first because they have the

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02:09:05.199 --> 02:09:07.479
<v Speaker 2>draft assets, they have the cap space, they have the

2772
02:09:07.520 --> 02:09:08.319
<v Speaker 2>young prospects.

2773
02:09:08.319 --> 02:09:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Now.

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02:09:08.760 --> 02:09:10.960
<v Speaker 2>The bad news is the other teams that are also

2775
02:09:11.039 --> 02:09:14.439
<v Speaker 2>still in a great position at talent. Oklahoma City, who's

2776
02:09:14.439 --> 02:09:16.680
<v Speaker 2>awesome now, is gonna be awesome for like a decade

2777
02:09:17.159 --> 02:09:19.840
<v Speaker 2>in San Antonio, who has the best building block in

2778
02:09:19.880 --> 02:09:21.800
<v Speaker 2>pro basketball, and Victor women Yama.

2779
02:09:21.880 --> 02:09:23.880
<v Speaker 1>So they're not alone, but they're in the mix to.

2780
02:09:23.880 --> 02:09:28.359
<v Speaker 2>Acquire talent when that talent becomes accessible and available. The

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02:09:28.439 --> 02:09:31.199
<v Speaker 2>key continues to be as I've said all along and

2782
02:09:31.239 --> 02:09:34.319
<v Speaker 2>I'll continue to say, but you probably get exhausted. You

2783
02:09:34.399 --> 02:09:36.439
<v Speaker 2>got a draft, you got to develop, and then what

2784
02:09:36.520 --> 02:09:38.840
<v Speaker 2>you got to do. You got to retain, So you

2785
02:09:38.920 --> 02:09:41.359
<v Speaker 2>got to acquire talent, you got to develop talent, then

2786
02:09:41.359 --> 02:09:43.600
<v Speaker 2>you have to retain the talent. The Jazz have still

2787
02:09:43.680 --> 02:09:47.159
<v Speaker 2>been unable to figure out the last piece. In the

2788
02:09:47.199 --> 02:09:49.520
<v Speaker 2>modern day and age of the NBA, we've seen the

2789
02:09:49.560 --> 02:09:53.479
<v Speaker 2>talent the Jazz have developed play well for other teams. Well,

2790
02:09:53.520 --> 02:09:55.960
<v Speaker 2>I should say, leave for other teams like Gordon Hayward,

2791
02:09:56.079 --> 02:09:58.720
<v Speaker 2>or play well for other teams like Donovan Mitchell. I

2792
02:09:58.720 --> 02:10:00.840
<v Speaker 2>think Rudy wanted to stay here, but he was part

2793
02:10:00.840 --> 02:10:04.000
<v Speaker 2>of the breakdown. So now the Jazz have to hope

2794
02:10:04.000 --> 02:10:06.880
<v Speaker 2>they have something in Keyante or Cody or whoever, and

2795
02:10:06.920 --> 02:10:09.800
<v Speaker 2>then watch them develop the way Donovan did, and they

2796
02:10:09.880 --> 02:10:13.239
<v Speaker 2>just hope for once one of these developed, fully baked,

2797
02:10:13.279 --> 02:10:15.720
<v Speaker 2>good young players actually stays in Salt Lake.

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02:10:16.720 --> 02:10:19.399
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. So the Jazz are back tonight, excited

2799
02:10:19.439 --> 02:10:21.600
<v Speaker 1>for pro basketball. Is back to that. I excited for

2800
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<v Speaker 1>wrapping it up from the dish professionals at oh one.

2801
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<v Speaker 2>To four to two four dish, aightoh one four to

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02:10:27.439 --> 02:10:29.199
<v Speaker 2>two four dish, give them a call one hundred dollars

2803
02:10:29.279 --> 02:10:30.319
<v Speaker 2>cash back to save.

2804
02:10:30.199 --> 02:10:32.039
<v Speaker 1>A grip of money.

2805
02:10:32.520 --> 02:10:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Jazz in action tonight bevy of NBA basketball going on

2806
02:10:35.680 --> 02:10:37.520
<v Speaker 2>right now. I'm gonna head down to the arena. We'd

2807
02:10:37.600 --> 02:10:40.119
<v Speaker 2>love to see you come down and say hi. So

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02:10:40.199 --> 02:10:43.199
<v Speaker 2>there you go, All right, Porter, are you gonna venture

2809
02:10:43.319 --> 02:10:46.479
<v Speaker 2>down to the Delta Center tonight and joy some basketball downtown?

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02:10:46.640 --> 02:10:49.359
<v Speaker 5>I may just do so, obviously. It's it's been a

2811
02:10:49.359 --> 02:10:53.840
<v Speaker 5>long time waiting for some hoops. I usually get heavy

2812
02:10:53.840 --> 02:10:57.199
<v Speaker 5>into it in the winter and spring, but with tip

2813
02:10:57.199 --> 02:11:01.239
<v Speaker 5>off here and with a market that's pretty excited about

2814
02:11:01.439 --> 02:11:04.319
<v Speaker 5>hockey and hoops right now, I think we should give

2815
02:11:04.359 --> 02:11:06.039
<v Speaker 5>them the support. So I'll try to head down there

2816
02:11:06.039 --> 02:11:08.239
<v Speaker 5>and see what the atmosphere is like, at least on

2817
02:11:08.760 --> 02:11:09.760
<v Speaker 5>a tip off Wednesday.

2818
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<v Speaker 2>Utah Hockey Club back in action on Friday against Colorado

2819
02:11:14.760 --> 02:11:17.560
<v Speaker 2>live in Salt Lake, RSL. It's their turn next week

2820
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<v Speaker 2>for some playoff action jazz basketball tonight. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>bevue of college football will continue to get you ready

2822
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<v Speaker 2>for yous taking on Houston and of course BYU on

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<v Speaker 2>porter what comes our way? On a Thursday edition of

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<v Speaker 2>The Show.

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<v Speaker 5>Back in studio on a Thursday, we'll catch up with

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<v Speaker 5>our friends Craig Bullerjack and Gordon monson a big hour

2851
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<v Speaker 5>on the program. We'll also have another friend in studio,

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<v Speaker 5>JP Chunga, the former producer of this here program, a

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<v Speaker 5>guy you joined on the round Ball Roundup this week.

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<v Speaker 5>And then, of course, as we do each and every week,

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<v Speaker 5>talking some soccer, talking some college football, whatever else comes

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>That will be an excellent Wednesday show. Excuse me, Thursday show.

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<v Speaker 2>We're done with the Wednesday show and we move on

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<v Speaker 2>Zach Harper, Ben Murdoch, Neil Smith and Richard Smith ur

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<v Speaker 2>In the sound you may miss we did college football,

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<v Speaker 2>NBA basketball, NHL hockey, getting ready for the Jazz tonight.

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