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let me give you the update from Washington. Senate Democrats

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today blocked yet another attempt to reopen the government, after

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having nearly a week to muw their options. This was

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the thirteenth attempt by Republicans to reopen the government. There

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are a series of deadlines rapidly closing in the failure

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to reopen the government. Today come as air traffic controllers

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missed their first payday, the military is set to miss

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its full first full payday on Friday, and then there

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is the looming cliff for federal nutrition benefits on Saturday,

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and that is the same day when open enrollment begins

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nationwide for the train wreck that is Obamacare, which is

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working as intended by the way that that was the intent.

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The intent was to break the healthcare system, and I

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thought it would happen a lot faster. But here we are,

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so it is breaking. I'm gonna touch on that in

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a bit. According to Fox News, in the background, Republicans

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are considering a series of one off bills to pay

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the troops, pay certain federal workers, pay the air traffic controllers,

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fund the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program or SNAP, also known

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as food stamps. However, whether or not these measures will

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make it to the floor of the Senate for a

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vote is unknown. John Thune, the Senate leader, he threw

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cold water on the prospect of the piecemeal what he

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calls rifle shots coming to the floor. So like this,

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you know, these targeted bills to fund one thing at

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a time. Republicans will discuss the bills during their closed

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door lunch today. JD. Vance, the Vice President, will attend

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that meeting as well. And you know, look, they're balancing

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a couple of different things here, right. Number one is

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how do we minimize the harm, minimize the pain of

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the shutdown to these various employees and programs. Also, who's

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to blame? Right, Who's to blame for the shutdown because

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they keep on running these bills as they did today

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another bill to pass the clean Continuing Resolution, and Democrats

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keep blocking it. I always point this out too, is

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that the Senate vote, they've gotten fifty three votes to

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reopen the government with the clean CR and that is bipartisan.

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There have been three or two Democrats and the independent,

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but he's basically a Democrat, Angus King of the famous

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Stake family. The two Democrats and one independent, they have

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gone along with Republicans in trying to reopen the government.

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That's a bipartisan vote, but it doesn't get counted or

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reported as that because Republicans. So the blockage here is

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completely the doing of the Democrats. I went over this

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in depth last week, I believe traced back the history

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of the Obamacare subsidies that now Democrats are demanding Republicans

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pass as part of this continuing resolution. They want this

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added back, or not added back, they want this added in.

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But the subsidies were temporary, and they've always been temporary.

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As silly as that sounds, but they were temporary from

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the very very beginning. Remember, Obamacare rammed through party line vote,

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zero Republicans on board with it. A couple of Democrats

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did not want to support it, so that's how we

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ended up. Remember the Cornhusker kickback, the Louisiana purchase. I

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believe there was one for the Florida what was the

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Florida deal? I forget what that was called. But these

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were all carrots concessions that were given to Democrats senators

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that knew this was not a popular thing to do,

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and so they got bought off by getting exemption for

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their states to certain aspects of Obamacare. So they gave

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them these carve outs, and then the Democrats fell in

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line and voted to ram this thing through. And part

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of it was to make the fiscal projections work and

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to keep it under half a trillion dollars. I think

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that was the magic number back then. They had to

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do all of this, you know, government accounting, which would

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be illegal if you did it or I did it,

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and like, okay, yeah, well we're going to subsidize, will

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subsidize the premiums and such, and they put a I

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think it was a ten year sunset on that. I

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think it was ten years, maybe it was five. And

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then they re upped it and reupped it, and they

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keep reupping it, and then they added more with the

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COVID pandemic. That was all Democrats. They did that every time,

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No Republicans every time, and they could have made those

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subsidies permanent, but they never did. But now they're demanding

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Republicans do what Democrats refuse to and or were incapable

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of doing. That's what they're holding the country hostage over

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is to force the Republicans to do something that Democrats

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themselves refuse to do. That's why this is squarely on

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their shoulders. This is they are too blamed for this.

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That's one aspect of the blame. The other aspect is

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Chuck Schumer's reelection prospects, and I can only imagine the

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kind of arm twisting he's doing behind the scenes. Right

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because Chuck Schumer is worried about losing a primary to

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Alexandria Azquez, a congresswoman from New York widely expected to

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challenge Chuck in the Democrat primary next year. Chuck, who

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agreed to the continuing Resolution back in July and saw

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his poll numbers crater among Democrats because the far left

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base wants Democrats, as they said in the surveys, to

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take a bullet. They have to be willing to take

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a bullet to fight Trump, right, they want Democrats to

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fight harder, and so Chuck. When he agreed to the

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continuing resolution back in July, he then was on the

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receiving end of the wrath of the leftist base in

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the Democrat Party. And his poll numbers are terrible. I

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went over those yesterday. I think Democrats support him at

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like a seventeen percent approval rating. It's awful. And so

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he's worried about losing. So he has to stay in

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this fight. He can't cave to the Republicans because it's

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going to cost him or could cost him his re

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election chances because he won't even clear the Democrat primary.

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He'd probably win the general. That probably about it. He

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would win the general election in New York, but he

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won't get through the primary. So that's why we are

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where we are. So how is this working out for

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Democrats Because at the beginning of the shutdown lo those

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many weeks ago, Democrats were content to just keep the

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government closed because they thought that there would be enough

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pressure on the Republicans through the media to reopen for

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the Republicans to cave and do what Democrats want them

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to do. Fund expansion of the subsidies, fund expansion of

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the medicaid, so it keeps covering illegal aliens. And Republicans

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have not been willing to go along with that, and

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they thought the Republicans would take all of the blame.

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So how is that working out well for Democrats? That

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so good?

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News as they make the media landscape more transparent. From

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the text line, Jeff says, through out the cr slash

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shutdown drama, we hear these sixty votes Republicans need, right, Yes,

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they need sixty votes to pass the Continuing Resolution. That's

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to defeat a philibuster, right, Indeed, it is, Jeff, it

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is to overcome the filibuster. I haven't seen anybody filibustering.

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Why don't they make democrats filibuster? Make Democrats stand up

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there twenty four to seven keeping the government shut down.

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That's a very good question. This is what we call

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the legislative filibuster, which I'm not a fan of. I'm

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not a fan of this mechanism that the Senate uses

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so they don't actually have to engage in filibustering. I

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have long said that if you're going to threaten to filibuster,

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you should actually have to do it. This idea that's like, well,

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you know, well, we would totally filibuster if we had to,

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But because we don't have to, I'm just gonna say

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I'm going to filibuster, and then that counts. I don't

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think that should count. I think that you should have

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to actually filibuster. Now, Democrats are urging Republicans by way

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of the media, saying, well, maybe they should just blow

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up the filibuster. Maybe they should just get rid of

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the legislative filibuster, just nuke it, just get rid of it.

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But they're not saying get rid of it and still

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make us filibuster. They're saying get rid of the sixty

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vote threshold, which is what they would like to see done,

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because if they win control, then they would be able

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to expand the Supreme Court, pack the court, they would

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be able to do all sorts of stuff. And that's

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why Republicans aren't going to do it.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: The filibuster is an important tool for the minority party

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to block actions by the majority party. But that being said,

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I think they should have to actually get up there

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on the floor and do the filibustering. So that's where

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that's where we are. It's the legislative filibuster and so

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the chief data analyst for CNN, talking about the polling

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on who's to blame for the shutdown, and uh, there's

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been a bit of a shift.

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Speaker 1: It hasn't.

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Speaker 4: If anything, it's been helped a little bit. Take a

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among the g When we're looking at the Republican Party overall,

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that brand actually up two points. That's within the margin virap,

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but clearly it hasn't dropped. Come over this side of

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the screen, look at the net approval ratings for Republicans

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in Congress. It's actually up five points since pre shutdown.

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So what we're seeing here is the Republican brand in

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Congress has actually improved somewhat compared to where we were

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pre shutdown, despite the fact the Republicans control. And that's

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the mat that John Thune and Mike Johnson are loved

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looking at, is Hey, why should we give an electorally

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Speaker 2: Now we say their position is getting better with whom?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, with whom.

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Speaker 4: So I think it's two groups that it's so important

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to keep them an eye out on all right, change

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Speaker 1: It's rallying the base, for sure.

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Speaker 4: Look at this, the net approval rating up twelve points

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versus pre shutdown. But it's not just with the base,

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it's also with the middle of the electorate. Look at

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this among independents it's up eight points as well. So

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we've got a situation here where Republicans with this shutdown

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are actually rallying their base. But it's also something that's

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not hurting them with the folks in the middle of anything.

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Speaker 1: It's helping them with folks in the mill. And this

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Speaker 4: Type of math that if you're Republicans you like to see, right,

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because something could rally the base but alienate those in

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the middle, or something could rally those in the middle

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Speaker 1: But the truth is we're not seeing that.

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Speaker 4: What we're seeing is the Republican brand has actually gotten

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better among independents, and it's also gotten better among Republicans

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as well. That Republican brand when it comes to those

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in Congress. So again, what's it's the elect to a

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reason that Republicans were given at this point.

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Speaker 2: And yes, what is the reason this is the Democrats

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doing and this is not going to help them either.

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The nation's largest federal workers' union, the American Federation of

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Government Employees, is urging Democrats to concede the government's shutdown

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fight and vote to reopen the government, revealing a significant

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fracture in the Democratic coalition as the shutdown nears the

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one month mark. This from Camden Mulder at National Review.

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The shutdown began twenty seven days ago after Democrats refused

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to back a clean government funding bill, demanding instead that

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Republicans extend temporary Obamacare subsidies that are set to expire

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at the end of the year. But afge or avgheef Ghi,

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as I call it, it's a major ally to the

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Democrat Party, representing eight hundred and twenty thous thousand federal

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and DC government workers, now say it's time for the

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party to give up on its demands. They say it's

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time to pass a clean cr and end the shutdown.

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The union is also demanding that all federal workers should

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not only be returned to work as soon as possible,

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but also received back pay, including workers who got furloughed

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or were considered essential throughout the shutdown and continued to

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work without any pay. A House passed continuing resolution has

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now been voted down in the Senate thirteen times. Three

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Senate Democrats. You got John Fetterman, who after his stroke

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and brain injury, seems like sane from Pennsylvania, Catherine Cortes

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Mastow from Nevada, and Angus King from Maine. He of

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the famous state family. They have all voted with Republicans

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to pass this legislation. This statement from the Union is

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not the first sign that cracks are forming within the

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Democrat coalition. Congressman Jared Golden, also of Maine, the lone

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House Democrat to vote in favor of the existing cr

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blamed his own party's progressive wing for pursuing what he

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views as a misguided shut down strategy. He said this

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in a weekend interview with The Wall Street Journal. He

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cast blame on the left wing group Indivisible, which is

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the same group that organized the No Kings rallies. He

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also blamed progressive leaders like Alexandria A Cascutz, as well

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as Senator Bernie Sanders for moving the party in the

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Let us him and Tomato. Let's head over to the

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text line and see what some people are saying. Oh

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my gosh, I'm kidding. This from Kevin who says, I

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listened to Mike Johnson's speech this morning. He was making

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the point, among others that Democrats are focusing on forcing

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Obamacare into permanent law. Well the subsidies they want the

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subsidies made permanent. Yes, because Obamacare is law, but they

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are looking to expand it permanently with these subsidies. But

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what they don't tell you is the billions that they

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want to give illegal immigrants as part of what they

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want included. No, Democrats do not want to say that

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although somebody did right, they did actually acknowledge. And on occasion,

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I played one of these clips a couple of weeks ago.

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Who was it, Nancy Pelosi, I think, or maybe it

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was Maxine Waters. I forget who it was. A reporter

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from a conservative outlet asked her, and she acknowledged that

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they want to make sure everybody gets health care. So yes,

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and in fact, they're three points that they sent over,

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that the Senate sent over to the Republican leadership, and

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we're like, you know, here's what we're demanding. Here list

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of our demands, and one of them is the expansion

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of Medicaid to cover illegal aliens. And now they're trying

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to pretend that that's not what they're doing, but that

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is part of their demands. Let me see here, Gray says,

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do you think the Democrats are now hoping for people

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to start protesting and stir up riots in the streets.

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I mean, I know that they There was the reports,

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there were the reports before the No Kings protests what

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two weekends ago, that Schumer was not going to do anything,

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was not going to move on on anything before the

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No King's rallies because he did not want to be

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the target of those rallies. Right, You've got these mass

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demonstrations already planned by your allies by this you know,

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leftist base, and you don't want to go. You don't

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want to anger them. A day before they're showing up,

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because then your name is going to be all over

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those placards because you caved to the orange hitler. Right

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that you're just as bad because you're letting him just

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run roughshot over America and democracy. Right, So you didn't

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want he didn't want that. So those are the reports

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that came out of DC right before the No Kings protest.

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I don't think. I don't think that they want riots

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because I think that actually would undermine their their position,

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right if people start rioting for their paychecks, I mean,

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and that would I mean, I feel like that would

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probably be a first for people to be rioting to

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be paid for their work versus being paid to riot.

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I think that's the difference there. Dana wants to know,

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how did oh wait hand on what happened to negotiating?

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Why haven't they at least debate it openly televised and

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let the Americans decide? Well, that did happen. It happened

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over in the House, and it passed the House. The

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continuing Resolution passed the House with a Democrat, Jared Golden,

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supporting it, and then it went to the Senate. And

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you know, funding bills have to start in the House.

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So if the Senate were to try to make any changes,

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it would then have to go back over to the

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House for approval. And so the Republicans are like, well, no,

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we passed this, this is what we want, this is

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not And if you want to negotiate spending, then you

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could do that while the government's open, because this is

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just a continuing resolution, because that's how now we fund everything,

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and this is how we are constantly governing ourselves with

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the you know, the constant looming deadline of a government

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shut down, because everybody thinks that it gives them some

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leverage to negotiate around. And we're not doing the regular order,

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which is to have the spending bills run through committees

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and then make their way to the Congress. We're not

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doing that. We haven't done that in a decade. I've

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been advocating for a return to that, to the regular order.

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But both parties, when they get in control, recognize the

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value of the negotiating leverage that they get. They get

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to say you have to pass this, you have to

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go along with this, or else everything shuts down. So

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this is the new normal. I don't like it. And

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Republicans have tried to shut down the government when they

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were in the minority, and what they learned was there's

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no off ramp, and then you end up having to cave.

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Democrats this is their stab at the shutdown, and they

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are learning the very same lesson, and maybe at some

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point everybody learns this lesson now and then there aren't

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any more shutdowns. But that's not actually a very preferable outcome, right,

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because that means that everybody just keeps going along with

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continuing resolutions. So, and here's the thing. The Republicans could

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have jammed a bunch of extra stuff into the CR.

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They could have done that, but they did not. They

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did not add stuff to the continuing resolution. They just

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said keep funding it at the regular level, at the

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current level. Democrats are the ones that want to add

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hundreds of billions of dollars worth of new spending into

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the budget that we already cannot afford. That's not fiscally prudent.

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How did MTG vote, Well, she's in the House, so

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this is all Senate. She's not a senator, so she

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did not vote in the on the CR in the

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Senate seven oh four number. What exactly is a filibuster?

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A filibuster is this may not be the technical definition here,

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but off the top of my head, it is when

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the minority party can debate a bill and as long

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as they don't give up the floor or stop talking,

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they can block a vote until they stop talking. That's

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the filibuster. But over the years they've decided, well, we'll

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just we'll just threaten to talk without actually talking, because

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you know, nobody really wants to do that and we

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don't want to hang around, and so they just like

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I will just say we're going to talk, and that's enough.

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That's called the legislative filibuster. And so as Jeff says, right,

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so they don't actually do the filibustering, they just identify

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as philibustering. Stan says, when you have a disagreement about

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the path forward, and one party says, let's continue doing

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it like we've been doing it while we chart a

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bipartisan and agreeable path forward as at least it wasn't

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a disaster yesterday, But the other party says, no, no,

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I would rather cause that disaster. It seems pretty obvious

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which side caused the current problem. And then this is

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from A to eight number. I tried Obamacare in twenty

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eighteen in between jobs literally covers nothing. Subsidy blew up

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my tax filing and it took three years to address

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the mess. Healthcare I had the same problem at the

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exact same issue. Health care costs need epic level solutions,

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but not via Obamacare, the scam to launch a federal

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takeover of our health rights down to our gym memberships. Yeah,

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the point of Obamacare was to break the system.

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dot Com. All right, Hello, Mike, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hello, I really appreciate you taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I only have about five minutes, so I'm going

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to ask you, Mike, because I have had many conversations

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with you over the years, to please arrive at your

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point as succinctly and rapidly as possible.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sir, thank you, I appreciate that, and again, thanks

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for taking my call. Actually, I'm talking about three points

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of agreement that we have, or maybe I should say

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two and a half. Yes, Yes, I think we need

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to get back to regular orders. I think both parties

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would benefit by it, and I think both parties to

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blame for it, and we need to do that. I'm

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not sure what it's going to take to get there,

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but I agree with you on that. And yes, yes,

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I agree with you that our American healthcare says some

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need some major changes to it. As you know, we

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as Americans pay roughly twice as much as other industrialized

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countries per person for health care, and for that we

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get really media results. We just don't fare very well

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in terms of life expectancy and all kinds of fat

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measures because we're fat well that we also don't we

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don't do enough screening to prevent various diseases, all that

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sort of stuff. And by the way, I haven't told

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you again, congratulations on your great weight loss. Will give

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Speaker 2: They did mostly. Yeah, no, I appreciate you. All right,

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So what's the half point here now that we are

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two minutes in?

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Speaker 3: All right, very good. The half point is talking about

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medicaid funding. Yes, it is true that some people who

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are undocumented receive Medicaid benefit.

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Speaker 2: They're documented, But.

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Speaker 3: There's a This is one of these examples in which

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you can take a small kernel of truth and make

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a very very big misperception and miscon going around with

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it here, right, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Going to hang on, Mike, I'm going to stop you

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right there. When you said a small percentage, how many

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people do you think that are in the country illegally

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that came over during the Biden administration. How many people

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do you think are eligible for the Medicaid.

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Speaker 3: Well, in terms of getting benefits zero. That is not

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correct in terms of going to an emergency room.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not talking about emergency room for that. No, no, no,

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I'm not talking because all of them get that. Anybody

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who's here illegally gets that. I'm talking about the number

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of people that came through under the Biden administration that

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are eligible for Medicaid benefits. And you said zero.

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Speaker 3: Those are TPS people and folks that are actually have

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a certain legal status here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they may qualify, they do qualify. Do you know

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what that number is? Do you know what the number is?

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the rough number of people.

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Speaker 2: Is three million? About three million? And do you know

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what that special designated status was?

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Speaker 3: But I also know the amount of Medicaid hang on hanger.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what that?

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Speaker 2: Do you know what that status was? You mentioned it

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that they were tps, but like, what was the status

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that got them that made them eligible for the Medicaid?

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Speaker 3: I think seeking a solid maybe one parole?

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Speaker 2: Correct, they got paroled, and therein lies the rub is

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that Alejandro Mayorcus blanket paroled millions of people in violation

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of the law, in clear, absolute, clear violation of the law.

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A blanket parole system for everybody that came in and

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that made them eligible for medicaid. That's why there's two

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point eight to three million people that are now eligible

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have been eligible for medicaid. So it's not taking a

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small kernel of anything.

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Speaker 3: The amount of money is being spent on it is musicool.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. It should be zero, should be zero.

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And if you want to and if you want to

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hash out whether to extend medicaid to illegal aliens that

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have been granted parole illegally, if you want to have

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that argument, go ahead and have the argument, but do

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it outside of a continuing resolution that has now been

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sitting for almost a month, and you're holding hostage all

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of the people whose paychecks aren't getting cut.

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Speaker 3: Part of governing, Pete, is that when you control the

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White House, you control the House.

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Speaker 2: You know the filibuster, you know how that works. Mike,

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do not play the game with me.

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Speaker 3: They got to get exactly, they got.

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Speaker 2: To get seven more Democrats, and until democrats.

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Speaker 3: Part of governing is being able to count to sixty.

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I part of governing being able to know how to

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count to sixty and to get sixty votes. Okay, well

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you agree there's no secret.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we agree. We agree. We agree. Democrats are

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responsible for the shutdown. We agree, Mike, I got a run.

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I appreciate the call, but we agree they cannot get

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to sixty without seven more Democrats. That's coming on board.

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Democrats are refusing to do it because they want Medicaid

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extended for these illegal aliens, and the Republicans are saying no,

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we agree. All right, that'll do it for this episode.

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