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<v Speaker 1>Welcomeboard, Welcome to another Space City Saturday on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 1>seven ninety Dad Matthews Live and local h town breakdown

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<v Speaker 1>of the world that matters to you, the Houston sports world.

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<v Speaker 2>All these great Houston fans here.

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<v Speaker 3>We love you all. So finish up on that to

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<v Speaker 1>Flute up the cooler because you can't drink in talk

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<v Speaker 1>sports all day if you don't start now bear me

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<v Speaker 1>the eight.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Space City Saturday. It's insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's seven nineties. Dan Matthews, very true. What's going on? Everybody?

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<v Speaker 1>You're with you for the next couple of hours. Melvin

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<v Speaker 1>Brown behind the glass. Appreciate you all tuning in to

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<v Speaker 1>us right here on. You're home of the Astros and

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<v Speaker 1>the Rockets. Sports Talk seven to ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>As we ought to do here in the first hour

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<v Speaker 4>of the show, heavy Astros in this hour, So if

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<v Speaker 4>you want to weigh in, do so seven one three

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<v Speaker 4>two one two five seven ninety. Once again, that's sebon

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<v Speaker 4>one three two one two five seven ninety. As you

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<v Speaker 4>have a chance to be able to talk end of

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<v Speaker 4>the season and also too as well what's ahead for

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<v Speaker 4>the Stros. We will do all of that as we

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<v Speaker 4>move along here in the program today Texans. In the

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<v Speaker 4>second hour get to a lot of what was said

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<v Speaker 4>this week over at NRG Stadium. But not only there,

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<v Speaker 4>but also too Not very often do you hear a

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<v Speaker 4>loss carried over to the following week and the coach

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<v Speaker 4>and the players are asked continuously about it. But that

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<v Speaker 4>was the case with Dimiko Ryans and CJ. Stroud and

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<v Speaker 4>whoever else was asked about it over there, because well,

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<v Speaker 4>that was not a fun performance in Minneapolis last weekend

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<v Speaker 4>against the Vikings. So the Texans trying to bounce back

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<v Speaker 4>from that, and we will see if they are able

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<v Speaker 4>to do that. Also in that second hour bottom of

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<v Speaker 4>the hour, Ryan Hacker Green from ten ten XL in Jacksonville,

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<v Speaker 4>he joined us on the A team. Some good stuff

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<v Speaker 4>said by him on the Jacksonville side of tomorrow's matchup.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll get into that, but also too as well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just how is this Jacksonville team looking coming into this game.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Ryan used the term lost with no real direction.

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<v Speaker 4>There's some people even wondering if tomorrow does not go well,

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<v Speaker 4>does Doug Peterson get shown the door. They're in Jacksonville.

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<v Speaker 4>And also this is a team that did extend their

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<v Speaker 4>quarterback after last season, So who's to say that the

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<v Speaker 4>Texans cannot prolong that those issues for Trevor Lawrence in

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<v Speaker 4>the Jacksonville Jags gotta believe they're gonna be emptying the

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<v Speaker 4>kitchen sink tomorrow because that is a team badly a win,

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<v Speaker 4>and not only are they badly need of a win,

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<v Speaker 4>but also to the Texans would like to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to put together their best performance of this season, because

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<v Speaker 4>again we'll talk about it in the next hour, but

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<v Speaker 4>this is a team that could very easily be in

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<v Speaker 4>the Jags position right now. That win at Indianapolis, it

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<v Speaker 4>could have absolutely gone the other way. The win at

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<v Speaker 4>home against the Bears on Sunday Night football, same deal.

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<v Speaker 4>The Bears could have very easily won that game over

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<v Speaker 4>the Texans. And then last week, of course, we saw

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<v Speaker 4>how bad that went. So we will talk about that

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit later on in the show. But the

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<v Speaker 4>Astros just kind of going beginning of the week until

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<v Speaker 4>now Tuesday night.

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<v Speaker 5>They got the good one.

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<v Speaker 4>They got the win over the Seattle Mariners that closed

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<v Speaker 4>the door on the Mariners at least winning the al

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<v Speaker 4>Wes their chances of still making the postseason.

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<v Speaker 5>We're alive for about a couple of.

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<v Speaker 4>More days because they prolonged it the next day with

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<v Speaker 4>a just a weird game there for the Astros where

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<v Speaker 4>tons of players were resting. That was the hangover lineup

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<v Speaker 4>that a lot of people will call it, not saying

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<v Speaker 4>that guys had hangovers, but anyway, I mean, you had,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Joe Aspota after the game emphatically saying that

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<v Speaker 4>players would be rested going forward. Because also to the Astros,

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<v Speaker 4>knew that their playoff fate was already sealed. They were

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<v Speaker 4>going to be the third seed, no more, no less

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<v Speaker 4>than the third seed. They were locked in to that

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<v Speaker 4>spot because they were not going to catch the Yankees,

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<v Speaker 4>they were not going to catch the Cleveland Guardians for

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<v Speaker 4>skip out on the wild card round. So in that case,

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<v Speaker 4>it was, why do we even need to necessarily, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>press our guys even further. Let's give jose al Tuova

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<v Speaker 4>some rest. Let's give Kyle Tucker some rest. Let's give

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<v Speaker 4>Alex Bregman some rest. Let's give you know whom I'm

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<v Speaker 4>missing out on here that needs some rest. Last night

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<v Speaker 4>we saw Jeremy Pania get some rest. It's almost kind

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<v Speaker 4>of one of those when you reach this certain point

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<v Speaker 4>of the season that the man is almost like the

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<v Speaker 4>principal in the movie The Breakfast Club with jud Hirsh

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<v Speaker 4>you know where he's talking back to him. Oh you

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<v Speaker 4>want a Saturday, all right, Well you get another one though,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you want one more? Well, guess what you just

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<v Speaker 4>bought yourself another one. That's pretty much what managers are

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<v Speaker 4>with players with rest days. Hey, you're getting a rest day.

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<v Speaker 4>Well I don't want one. Well, guess what you just

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<v Speaker 4>got another one. I mean, it's pretty much protecting yourself

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<v Speaker 4>from yourself, and that's what I think Joe Aspota is

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<v Speaker 4>up against right now. So if I had to suspect today,

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<v Speaker 4>I think the lineup will look pretty similar to what

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously, no Jordan Alvarez.

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<v Speaker 4>He's back here in Houston going through some light work

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<v Speaker 4>right now. We heard Joe Aspotta telling Brian McTaggert and

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<v Speaker 4>the collected media there in Cleveland yesterday that he was

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<v Speaker 4>doing some walking on the treadmill. Well, I've got to

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<v Speaker 4>agree with Brian McTaggert if that does not translate to

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<v Speaker 4>maybe we hear today that he was taking some batting

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<v Speaker 4>practice on the field, doing some light running something like that,

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<v Speaker 4>and we're not training, you know, we're not getting close

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<v Speaker 4>to that point. And I guess Monday will be kind

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<v Speaker 4>of a tell tell sign. I believe the Astros will

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<v Speaker 4>be doing a workout there on Monday in kind of

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<v Speaker 4>a media day with not only them but also too

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<v Speaker 4>as well. You know, if the season ended today, you

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<v Speaker 4>know that old that we like to do in baseball,

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<v Speaker 4>the season ended today, Well, if it ended today, the

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<v Speaker 4>Astros would be bringing the Kansas City Royals to town

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<v Speaker 4>over the Detroit Tigers. As it currently stands, the Tigers

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<v Speaker 4>are now the fifth seed in the American League playoff picture,

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<v Speaker 4>as they would be taking on more than likely the

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<v Speaker 4>Baltimore Orioles in the first round that wild card round,

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<v Speaker 4>and the Astros would get the Kansas City Royals. But

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<v Speaker 4>of course we've got today, we've got tomorrow, and the

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<v Speaker 4>Royals a little bit of a tougher path to try

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<v Speaker 4>to climb their way back into the fifth spot, because

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<v Speaker 4>not only are they playing a much better team, but

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<v Speaker 4>the most games in the modern era of baseball, in

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<v Speaker 4>the Chicago White Sox so the Tigers a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>of an easier path to be able to get to

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<v Speaker 4>that point, and the Royals are in Atlanta taking on

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<v Speaker 4>a Braves team that as of right now has climbed

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<v Speaker 4>their way back into the wildcard picture for the National League.

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<v Speaker 4>But not only that, they are trying to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to stave off both the Mets and the Diamondbacks to

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<v Speaker 4>keep them out of the postseason. So you know that

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<v Speaker 4>Brian Snickers team is very much trying to win those games.

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<v Speaker 4>And the Royals, I think at this point, now that

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<v Speaker 4>they are clenched and locked in, it will be pretty

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<v Speaker 4>interesting to see how they handled tomorrow and even today

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<v Speaker 4>against the Braves. I mean, I think, obviously too you

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<v Speaker 4>want to be competitive, you want to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>put your best foot forward. But I think at this

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<v Speaker 4>point it's probably best to assume that the Astros will

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<v Speaker 4>be seeing the Royals, and at least for the last

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<v Speaker 4>couple of years, that had not been a good proposition

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<v Speaker 4>for the Astros, But at least the last series it

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot better than what it had been, as

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<v Speaker 4>the Stros were able to take care of Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 4>So don't think that's not gonna be on the Royals'

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<v Speaker 4>minds as they more than likely come here on Monday

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<v Speaker 4>and get ready for those hopefully just two games. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 4>the Astros would only need those two games, but again,

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<v Speaker 4>Cole Reagan's seth Lugo, it's gonna be tough pitching on

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<v Speaker 4>that side, but the Astros have some tough pitching on

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<v Speaker 4>their side as well, So the Astros again, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>improbable of all runs I think that we've seen for

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<v Speaker 4>the Stros. I mean I think even last year, I

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<v Speaker 4>think even heading into that final weekend, we were still

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<v Speaker 4>kind of thinking, well, I don't see a scenario where

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<v Speaker 4>this team misses out on the postseason. And of course

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<v Speaker 4>I believe it was that Friday is when they at

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<v Speaker 4>least clinch a chance to go the postseason, either as

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<v Speaker 4>a wild card or as a division winner. And then

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<v Speaker 4>what was it that Sunday when they beat Arizona and

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<v Speaker 4>also to the Rangers loss of the Mariners, then they

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<v Speaker 4>clinched the AO West, so they were able to get

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<v Speaker 4>in that way. So they did it a little bit

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<v Speaker 4>earlier this year, but still I think it's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>what happened early on in the season that came back

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<v Speaker 4>for the Astros this year that would again lead me

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<v Speaker 4>to signal that this is one of the more improbable runs.

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<v Speaker 4>The seven and nineteen start oh and four to start

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<v Speaker 4>the season against the Yankees. They came in here and

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely dominated you, and you're just kind of like, man,

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<v Speaker 4>that sucks. I mean, you couldn't take one of those four.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you're still not feeling one hundred percent great

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<v Speaker 4>with a one in three start, but at least you're

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<v Speaker 4>feeling a lot better than oh to four. Then you

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<v Speaker 4>get the Renel Blanco no hitter on that Monday night

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<v Speaker 4>against Toronto and the Astros. Then after that, continuing their slide,

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<v Speaker 4>going to Kansas City getting swept, just getting absolutely blown out.

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<v Speaker 4>Aside from that first game, the series against the Nationals,

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<v Speaker 4>not a fun one. Getting swept by the Cubs, getting

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<v Speaker 4>swept by the Braves, just not a fun start.

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<v Speaker 5>That all boiled to a seven and nineteen start.

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<v Speaker 4>Then you get to twelve in twenty four and then

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<v Speaker 4>as the season goes along, Kyle Tucker goes down, same

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<v Speaker 4>with Justin Berlander, and still this team found a way.

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<v Speaker 4>So we'll see how it all shakes out when it's

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<v Speaker 4>all said and done. Last night, though, saw some good

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<v Speaker 4>things I don't think there's any doubt about that. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, some people on the surface might say,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know, I've even kind of used the line

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<v Speaker 4>as well that this is almost kind of extended spring

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<v Speaker 4>training at this point because the games themselves do not matter,

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<v Speaker 4>but for Cleveland it does because they're trying to be

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<v Speaker 4>able to get the top spot there as day again

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<v Speaker 4>already locked into one of the top two spots, but

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<v Speaker 4>the Yankees winning last night and also to the Guardians

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<v Speaker 4>losing it to the Astros, so that definitely hurts their

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<v Speaker 4>chances of being able to get to that point. But

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, the Astros trying to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to just carry any momentum they can into the postseason.

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<v Speaker 4>I said the Yankees one last night, I lied they

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<v Speaker 4>actually lost to the Pirates. Forgot about that too. They're

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<v Speaker 4>in the Bronx. But I mean, you know, the good

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<v Speaker 4>things we saw Jose Altuve, a couple of hits out

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<v Speaker 4>Alex Bregman. That's something we're going to talk about a

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<v Speaker 4>that absolutely is something that you love to see. It's

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<v Speaker 4>and men's basketball Sports Talk seven to ninety, so the

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<v Speaker 4>Astros all coverage in between gonna be over on news

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<v Speaker 4>Radio seven forty k TRH. I will be coming your

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<v Speaker 4>Robert Ford Steve Sparks over there, and the Astros tenth

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<v Speaker 4>But one last chance, I think for Justin Verlander to

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<v Speaker 4>I don't envision any scenario where Verlander has left off

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<v Speaker 4>the scenario, say in the Alds if you get to

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<v Speaker 4>do we use that day off and bring back fromber

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<v Speaker 4>that's probably the route you would have to go. I

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<v Speaker 4>do not pitch Justin Verlander in an elimination scenario. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>He has not proven to me that he can be

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<v Speaker 4>opponent off the scoreboard. Verlander has not proven to be

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<v Speaker 4>that guy right now. So I don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>goes out today and say, throws five and third, five

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<v Speaker 4>and two thirds six innings, maybe even more, that you

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<v Speaker 4>say to yourself, Okay, there's that guy.

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<v Speaker 5>He's back. We can go with him.

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<v Speaker 4>Or is it one of those that he's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>him and he's able to win the game. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>terms of starting pitching potential. But as of right now,

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<v Speaker 4>we've talked about it at nauseum, I think your starting

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<v Speaker 4>and this is where I think things start off right now,

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<v Speaker 4>because that is where the Astros would start.

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<v Speaker 5>You got to go from Or one.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to go Hunter Brown two, and then I

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<v Speaker 4>think if it's a if necessary Game three, you go

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<v Speaker 4>with Yusay Kakuchi, who has been able to prove that

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<v Speaker 4>he can get out via the strikeout. And he's also

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<v Speaker 4>too I think for the most part limited the damage

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<v Speaker 4>against him on the bases and of feet touching home plate.

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<v Speaker 4>But that is something that we're going to be continuously

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<v Speaker 4>keeping an eye on because I think Renelle Blanco showed

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<v Speaker 4>game three start. I don't know a lot to see

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<v Speaker 5>But speaking of.

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four season that is not getting enough run and

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<v Speaker 4>I think should be talked about a lot more. We'll

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<v Speaker 4>discuss that and much more. Richard John, I see you

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<v Speaker 4>guys right there on the phone lines. Get to you

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<v Speaker 4>on the other side as well. You want to join them,

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<v Speaker 4>you can do so. Seven one, three, two one two five,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Space City Saturday one, Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>I had that breakfast club mentioned in there, So there

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<v Speaker 4>you go. Like I said, I'm Judd Hirsh on the

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<v Speaker 4>football field, throwing the fists in the air as I'm

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<v Speaker 4>walking off. Don't you forget about me? Don't you forget

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<v Speaker 4>about the breakfast club? Emilio Molly. Everybody right there, you

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<v Speaker 4>little troublemakers. You're having to hang out in the library.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you've got the guy who was the actor's

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<v Speaker 4>name at Dan Matthews Hou if anybody remembers who the

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<v Speaker 4>actor was that played the principal like he played every

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<v Speaker 4>single eighties like just pain in the ass, like authority figure.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, remember he was Deputy Marshall Dwayne whatever on Diehard.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the coach I think in Johnny b Bad?

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<v Speaker 4>Are Johnny be Good? And what was it he was

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<v Speaker 4>in that? I mean that guy just an absolutely you

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<v Speaker 4>know what buster, that's what he played in eighties movies.

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<v Speaker 4>So if you know that actor's name, please learn me

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<v Speaker 4>something right there. It would be much appreciated. All right,

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<v Speaker 4>Before I get to the storyline that I think has

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<v Speaker 4>not talked about enough for the Astros this year, as

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<v Speaker 4>I promised you on the phone lines, you get to

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<v Speaker 4>take part as well. And he is Richard, who wants

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<v Speaker 4>to weigh in here to talk some Astros. Richard, what's up, buddy?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey? Dan? I got a comment and a question. So

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<v Speaker 2>the comment is, I thought Blanco and here and Daddy

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<v Speaker 2>coming out of the pen last night looked great, and

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<v Speaker 2>I sure hope they feature as we go into this

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<v Speaker 2>long series. Were about the Embarkhan, But my question is

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<v Speaker 2>more kind of technical. I should know and I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>How do they use the farm team as they get

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<v Speaker 2>into the playoffs? Dan, And you know, I've seen that,

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<v Speaker 2>like Gazenzo coming up last night and looked great, But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with the kind of likes of all the

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<v Speaker 2>players are kind of injured right now, I'm just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of curious about how that farm team can use as

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<v Speaker 4>I appreciate the call, Richard. I'll start with the second

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<v Speaker 4>one first. It's called the taxi squad is how the

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<v Speaker 4>farm team is used. There is a certain amount of

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<v Speaker 4>guys that are designated to be part of said taxi squad.

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<v Speaker 4>And this was something that came about during COVID when

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<v Speaker 4>they did not have minor league baseball that year. So

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<v Speaker 4>anybody that could be promoted to the major league level,

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<v Speaker 4>they were part of said taxi squad, and they were

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<v Speaker 4>able to practice maybe even if you had enough guys

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<v Speaker 4>inner squad, and be able to try to stay fresh

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<v Speaker 4>for if indeed you were called up to the major

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<v Speaker 4>league level. And so that is what they've carried over

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<v Speaker 4>to now. So you'll have almost kind of like a

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<v Speaker 4>practice squad on an NFL team, where you'll have a

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<v Speaker 4>certain amount of guys. I don't know the amount that

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<v Speaker 4>you're allowed to have that can be a part of

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<v Speaker 4>said taxi squad. But I note that last night I

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<v Speaker 4>was listening on my way home to Joe Espada with

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<v Speaker 4>Robert Ford talking about Shay Whitcomb where he of course

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<v Speaker 4>was sent down, and some people probably wondering, how man,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, that's got to be kind of

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<v Speaker 4>tough after he just made all those errors against the

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<v Speaker 4>Mariners and you demote him. I mean what's that going

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<v Speaker 4>to do for his psyche? He said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we've already told him that Monday, join us back on

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<v Speaker 4>the taxi squad, so he will be there. I would

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<v Speaker 4>probably suspect that, Like say, it wouldn't surprise me if

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<v Speaker 4>even you see Rafael Montero be part of that, and

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<v Speaker 4>who knows, maybe even Forrest Whitley be part of that

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<v Speaker 4>group as well that are being told, hey, stay fresh,

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<v Speaker 4>stay ready, because if there's an injury or if we

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<v Speaker 4>feel like you fit a matchup problem for the opponent,

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<v Speaker 4>if we are able to move on to the Alds,

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<v Speaker 4>then you're gonna be a part of it. So you

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<v Speaker 4>have those guys ready for you and looking to be

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<v Speaker 4>ready to go. So that's where those guys guys are.

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<v Speaker 4>In terms of Spencer Arraghetty and him coming out of

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<v Speaker 4>the bullpen, I mean, Blanco did give you a good

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<v Speaker 4>start last night, and Blanco does have bullpen experience. We've

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<v Speaker 4>seen him come out of the pen in the past.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, this was really the first season that you

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<v Speaker 4>had Dana Brown saying hey, let's think about him as

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<v Speaker 4>a starter, and boy, it worked out a two point

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<v Speaker 4>eight zero e er A for him. This season. But

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<v Speaker 4>for Araghetty some good things last night. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the strikeouts will be there. If he finds the zone,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got the stuff that's gonna miss bats, and he

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<v Speaker 4>did that four times. The only problem with raic Getty

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<v Speaker 4>is sometimes that command can become an issue from a

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<v Speaker 4>walks perspective, and that's what it was last night. Three

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<v Speaker 4>in that category, but also two as well, with the

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<v Speaker 4>lack of command, at times, he can have the baseball

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<v Speaker 4>float up in the zone, and those are baseballs that

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<v Speaker 4>get barreled up and put over the wall. And you

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<v Speaker 4>want to try to limit runs as much as possible

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<v Speaker 4>in the postseason because of how finite your chances are

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to score against them. It's the same

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<v Speaker 4>deal that you want to be able to limit their chances.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why you see pitching changes used so liberally during

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<v Speaker 4>the postseason, and that is something that Joe Spoda has

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<v Speaker 4>to keep in mind. But also two, I mean, we

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<v Speaker 4>out of the pin I mean, I remember the back

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<v Speaker 4>to that game four. He came out, He's throwing a

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and dotting it up on the outside corner against

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<v Speaker 4>the Rangers in that game or when to even up

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<v Speaker 4>the series. So I mean, Arraghetti could possibly fit that

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<v Speaker 4>role again this year.

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<v Speaker 5>And you saw it used a little bit last night.

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<v Speaker 4>Two and a third innings out there and you get,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, two thirds of an inning out of Brian

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<v Speaker 4>to bray you and Josh Hater. I'm sure that's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be brought up as well. I mean, Hater, is it

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit of a concern right now? Sure, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to see your closer giving up runs, but

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<v Speaker 4>it also is too as well. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we know what Josh Hater is in save situations, at

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<v Speaker 4>least the majority of the season. I think what three

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<v Speaker 4>blown saves this year, I think that's what he had.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know that's something that you're gonna see. Closers

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<v Speaker 4>are gonna give up saves. That's gonna happen during the

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<v Speaker 4>course of a year. But also too as well, you'd

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<v Speaker 4>done when it's a non close situation, and that's what

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<v Speaker 4>it was last night. I mean the walks when Josh

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<v Speaker 4>Hater is not effective. If you see him give up

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<v Speaker 4>a walk, then you need to start worrying because that

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<v Speaker 4>seemingly is when he starts to what kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>off a little bit in terms of his effectiveness. But

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<v Speaker 4>if he's coming in and the slider is biting, I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's the pitch that Steve Sparks said was what

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<v Speaker 4>he looks for in terms of if he's got that

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<v Speaker 4>pitch biting, then it's gonna be a good day for him.

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<v Speaker 4>But if it's kind of spinning up there, then it's

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<v Speaker 4>not gonna be a good day for him. And these

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<v Speaker 4>are things that the Astros are hoping that pitch in,

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<v Speaker 4>all of his pitches are effective in the postseason, because again,

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<v Speaker 4>most of the times you're gonna come in during the postseason,

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be tied, maybe you're gonna be down by one,

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it might be. You need him to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to be that guy. And that's why I think a

422
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<v Speaker 4>lot of times, you know, we're incredibly critical of him

423
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<v Speaker 4>when he's not that guy, because the money is one thing,

424
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<v Speaker 4>and the money is probably the catalyst for us having

425
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<v Speaker 4>that frustration when he has his frustrating outings, but also

426
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<v Speaker 4>too as well. I mean, you know, you are that

427
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<v Speaker 4>guy and you've been, you know, portrayed to be that guy,

428
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<v Speaker 4>then you need to be them.

429
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<v Speaker 5>When you come out there on the field.

430
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<v Speaker 4>But last night, obviously giving up those two runs, a

431
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<v Speaker 4>couple of hits there as well, he does strike out one,

432
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<v Speaker 4>but still you'd like to see Josh Hater be.

433
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<v Speaker 5>A little bit more effective.

434
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<v Speaker 4>I think if Joe Espata had his brothers today, you

435
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<v Speaker 4>would not see Josh Hater being used whatsoever in this game.

436
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<v Speaker 4>So we'll see if indeed that does play out today

437
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<v Speaker 4>there in Cleveland again, A five to ten first pitch

438
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<v Speaker 4>coming your way over on news radio seven forty k TRH.

439
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<v Speaker 4>All right, finally the storyline that I don't think has

440
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<v Speaker 4>been talked about enough this season, and we can carry

441
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<v Speaker 4>over the most of it to the next segment, but

442
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<v Speaker 4>I do want to play this audio right now, as

443
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<v Speaker 4>earlier this week, had a chance to catch up with

444
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<v Speaker 4>Joe Aspota along with the rest of the media in

445
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<v Speaker 4>the Astros dugout before the series finale against the Seattle Mariners,

446
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<v Speaker 4>and one thing that has struck me the most about

447
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<v Speaker 4>a Spota this year is his ability to stay calm

448
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<v Speaker 4>when things are really bad. He was the same guy

449
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<v Speaker 4>when things were really good. Same deal, same guy, and

450
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<v Speaker 4>just tried to always stay right there in the middle

451
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<v Speaker 4>and didn't try to get too high, didn't try to

452
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<v Speaker 4>get too low. So I asked you a spota as

453
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<v Speaker 4>a first year manager trying to fight off those emotions.

454
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<v Speaker 5>What allowed you to stay so calm?

455
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<v Speaker 3>A couple of things.

456
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<v Speaker 6>Just faith in God, man, I you know.

457
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<v Speaker 5>That's number one. My family. I got an incredible family.

458
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<v Speaker 5>I go home to.

459
00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:24.160
<v Speaker 6>A wonderful wife and kids who love me and support me.

460
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<v Speaker 6>And that that's very important because at the end of

461
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<v Speaker 6>the day, I'm not, you know, not only a baseball manager,

462
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<v Speaker 6>but I'm a father and a husband, and that's that

463
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<v Speaker 6>will always be there, right. That's the most important thing too.

464
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<v Speaker 6>You know, I got an organization who support me. I

465
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<v Speaker 6>got players who will have my back and I have

466
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<v Speaker 6>their back. And you know, front office who do whatever

467
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<v Speaker 6>it takes to put players in, you know, bring players in.

468
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<v Speaker 6>Jim Crane as an owner, he he cares about winning.

469
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<v Speaker 6>If you ask for something, he's you know, let's go

470
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<v Speaker 6>what do we need? Player development, you know, getting players

471
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<v Speaker 6>for the big leagues and and us just sustain what

472
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<v Speaker 6>we do. We need a lot of things to go

473
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<v Speaker 6>our way, and we do that well because we communicate,

474
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<v Speaker 6>we work together, and that's very important. That helps me

475
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<v Speaker 6>to do my job.

476
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<v Speaker 5>That's just you know, how we sustain that.

477
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<v Speaker 6>It's important and we've been able to do that for many, many,

478
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<v Speaker 6>many years, so.

479
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<v Speaker 5>That that's a good feeling.

480
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<v Speaker 6>Now they're emotional struggles that yeah, I'm a human, right

481
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<v Speaker 6>and I see you know we're not playing well, and

482
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<v Speaker 6>you know I take it personal, but I know if

483
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<v Speaker 6>I stay strong, these guys will.

484
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<v Speaker 5>Find a way to win.

485
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<v Speaker 6>They've done it for many many years.

486
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<v Speaker 5>That's good perspective to have.

487
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<v Speaker 4>And again, as a first year manager, you don't see

488
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<v Speaker 4>that a lot, even from veteran managers. I mean, remember

489
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<v Speaker 4>the guys who ran hot when things weren't going well,

490
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<v Speaker 4>Guys like Bobby Valentine and Loupanella boy Jeff Blum huge

491
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<v Speaker 4>Loupanella fan, isn't he? But I mean even you know

492
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<v Speaker 4>a Tony LaRussa another guy that used to go that

493
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<v Speaker 4>route and for the old school guys, maybe that worked

494
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<v Speaker 4>for the guys now it doesn't seem to work. And

495
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<v Speaker 4>Joe Espada again, to have that type of perspective, that's

496
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<v Speaker 4>something I do want to carry over. So I'll expand

497
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<v Speaker 4>on that on the other side, as well as get

498
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<v Speaker 4>into an Alex Bregman topic here. I think that Bregman

499
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<v Speaker 4>is handling himself a certain way because he doesn't want

500
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<v Speaker 4>to make a mistake someone else made while wearing an

501
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<v Speaker 4>Astro's uniform. I think you can probably deduce who I'm

502
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<v Speaker 4>talking about with the other name, but we'll do that

503
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<v Speaker 4>on the other side as well. If you want to

504
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<v Speaker 4>weigh in, please do so. Seven one three two on

505
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<v Speaker 4>two five, seven ninety. Once again, that's Semon one three

506
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<v Speaker 4>two on two five at seven ninety. As we continue

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<v Speaker 4>to roll along here on a Space City Saturday on

508
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<v Speaker 4>your Home with the Astros and the Rockets sports Talk

509
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<v Speaker 4>seven ninety. This is Space City Saturday on Sports Talk

510
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<v Speaker 4>seven ninety. Okay, there we go, Delvin Brown telling me

511
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<v Speaker 4>it is the og. It's it's the one that was sampled,

512
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<v Speaker 4>not not the newest one that of course, you know

513
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<v Speaker 4>for everybody, anybody that's in a relationship. I'm sure that

514
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<v Speaker 4>probably your spouse has used that in an insta story.

515
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<v Speaker 5>I know mine has numerous times. So there you go.

516
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<v Speaker 4>So we've got the emotions by the way too. Before

517
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<v Speaker 4>I continue the Joe a spot of thought, but also

518
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<v Speaker 4>to get into a little bit of a thought about

519
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<v Speaker 4>Alex Bregman a show correction right here, an eh, right

520
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<v Speaker 4>here air on the host I had called Judd Nelson

521
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<v Speaker 4>jud hirsh.

522
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<v Speaker 5>And as a joke with somebody on Twitter.

523
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<v Speaker 4>No, he's not Jeff Goldbloom's dad in Independence Day. He

524
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<v Speaker 4>is jud Nelson, of course, who has been in numerous

525
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<v Speaker 4>different movies. There was the brat Pack little documentary that

526
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<v Speaker 4>just came out recently. I think that it was Amazon

527
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<v Speaker 4>Prime that had it. I believe it was Prime. I

528
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<v Speaker 4>can't remember exactly, but Judd Nelson was not famously part

529
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<v Speaker 4>of it, but his voice was heard because I guess

530
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<v Speaker 4>he called the actor. I can't remember his name now again,

531
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<v Speaker 4>you know, I didn't throw out a name this time,

532
00:27:03.480 --> 00:27:05.759
<v Speaker 4>so I can't be wrong in that regard. But it

533
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<v Speaker 4>was the member of the brat Pack that kind of

534
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<v Speaker 4>was going around talking to a different actors, producers, whoever

535
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<v Speaker 4>it might have been. And Nelson at first had declined

536
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<v Speaker 4>to be part of it, but it did leave the

537
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<v Speaker 4>door open that maybe they could do a sequel to

538
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<v Speaker 4>it and that he would possibly be part of it.

539
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<v Speaker 4>But Judd Nelson of course definitely part of that eighties

540
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<v Speaker 4>crew of actors that we affectionately knew as the brat

541
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<v Speaker 4>Pack during that time. Demmy Moore part of it as well,

542
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<v Speaker 4>I think was Jason Bateman part of it. I guess

543
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<v Speaker 4>that was the other part of it as well, as

544
00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.559
<v Speaker 4>it kind of left to interpretation who could be part

545
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<v Speaker 4>of the brat Pack. So anyway, Judd Nelson and then

546
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<v Speaker 4>Paul Gleeson was the guy that I said was the

547
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<v Speaker 4>you know what buster of eighties movies.

548
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<v Speaker 5>He was in Diehard, he was in Johnny B.

549
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<v Speaker 4>Good, he was in The Breakfast Club as well. So

550
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<v Speaker 4>that guy, I mean, you want to talk about being

551
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<v Speaker 4>tight asked for a role. He was definitely for that

552
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<v Speaker 4>role of being the either principal or the coach or

553
00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.079
<v Speaker 4>the cop that just won't listen to John McClain and

554
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<v Speaker 4>of course then gets dressed down by John McClain on

555
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<v Speaker 4>the CBE radio. As you know, he was telling him,

556
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<v Speaker 4>you don't have anything figured out down there. I've got

557
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 4>everything figured out here in the building, because guess what,

558
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<v Speaker 4>I'm a New York City cop. I mean, you know,

559
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<v Speaker 4>Sergeant al Powell tried to tell him, hey, things, He

560
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 4>said he could be a bartender for all, you know, Powell. Well,

561
00:28:32.119 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 4>Sergeant al Powell was correct. So you know what, we'll

562
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:39.240
<v Speaker 4>definitely always, you know, believe Sergeant al Powell before we'll

563
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<v Speaker 4>believe Deputy Dwayne.

564
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<v Speaker 5>Okay.

565
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.799
<v Speaker 4>So anyway, Paul Gleeson was that actor. But you heard

566
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<v Speaker 4>from Joe spotted there in that last segment talking about

567
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.160
<v Speaker 4>why he was able to stay calm all season, and

568
00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 4>that is something that I believe all throughout the year

569
00:28:56.119 --> 00:28:58.200
<v Speaker 4>was a huge reason why the Astros were able to

570
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<v Speaker 4>ultimately have the success they had this season, because you've

571
00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:05.000
<v Speaker 4>seen it numerous times and again, like I said, even

572
00:29:05.240 --> 00:29:08.480
<v Speaker 4>from experience managers, you see them kind of let their

573
00:29:08.519 --> 00:29:11.200
<v Speaker 4>emotions get the best of them and say, yeah, you

574
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<v Speaker 4>know what, it's time to do the nuclear option. It's

575
00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:15.319
<v Speaker 4>time to start calling out jose L two Bay. It's

576
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:18.599
<v Speaker 4>time to start calling out Kyle Tucker and Jordan Alvarez

577
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:21.400
<v Speaker 4>and whoever else it might be, because we need hits

578
00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:23.920
<v Speaker 4>with runners in the scoring position and you guys ain't

579
00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 4>doing it. And he declined to do that every single

580
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:31.519
<v Speaker 4>turn this season. It was every single time either take

581
00:29:31.559 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 4>the blame himself or to also too as well, say hey,

582
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:37.279
<v Speaker 4>you've got other guys on the other side of the

583
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:39.720
<v Speaker 4>field that are pretty good players as well. Those guys

584
00:29:39.759 --> 00:29:42.599
<v Speaker 4>are pretty good pitchers, so let's give them credit and

585
00:29:42.799 --> 00:29:46.279
<v Speaker 4>let's not put the blame on our guys. That was huge,

586
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.880
<v Speaker 4>and that's something that even with a veteran laden team

587
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 4>like the Astros have, you could very easily ruffle a

588
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:56.319
<v Speaker 4>lot of feathers in there. Because let's also take it

589
00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:59.680
<v Speaker 4>from the perspective of the context, given where it's if

590
00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 4>you're a former player doing that, then I think guys

591
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 4>are probably willing to listen to it a little bit more.

592
00:30:05.160 --> 00:30:07.720
<v Speaker 4>But Joe's not. Joe is a guy that's a baseball lifer.

593
00:30:07.960 --> 00:30:10.119
<v Speaker 4>He cut his teeth in the minor leagues. He had

594
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<v Speaker 4>been a bench coach, he had pretty much had every

595
00:30:12.319 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 4>single job at the major league level possible, and now

596
00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:17.799
<v Speaker 4>he finally got his chance to be a manager. And

597
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 4>it's also too that sometimes you don't get the chance

598
00:30:21.759 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 4>other than once to be able to learn from your mistakes.

599
00:30:24.519 --> 00:30:27.319
<v Speaker 4>Some managers do. I mean, we've seen some guys get

600
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<v Speaker 4>fired and then have success elsewhere. Terry Francona one of

601
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:32.960
<v Speaker 4>those guys. Joe Tory another one of those guys. He

602
00:30:33.039 --> 00:30:37.359
<v Speaker 4>had two chances somewhere else and finally got his chance.

603
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:39.720
<v Speaker 4>So with the Yankees, and you can talk about, oh, well,

604
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<v Speaker 4>look at all the players he had, Well, he could

605
00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 4>have also messed that up as well, so that needs

606
00:30:43.960 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 4>to be factored into the equation as well. But in

607
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<v Speaker 4>this case with Joe Espada, I mean, you know, to

608
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<v Speaker 4>have the perspective that he laid out of the support

609
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<v Speaker 4>he gets from not only from Dana Brown but also

610
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<v Speaker 4>from Jim Crane as well, but also the player that

611
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.799
<v Speaker 4>he has on his side, and trying to be able

612
00:31:02.839 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 4>to work with those guys and being able to let

613
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<v Speaker 4>them work. That's something that sometimes as a first time manager,

614
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<v Speaker 4>you'll see the guy who goes the opposite route of

615
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:16.440
<v Speaker 4>that of well, these guys have created these expectations. They

616
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.359
<v Speaker 4>know what the standard is here, and they're not living

617
00:31:18.400 --> 00:31:20.119
<v Speaker 4>up to it, so I need to remind them of it.

618
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<v Speaker 4>He declined to do that, and I think all in all,

619
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<v Speaker 4>you know, taking the long road and taking the you know,

620
00:31:27.920 --> 00:31:31.680
<v Speaker 4>bigger picture approach here, he decided that it's best to

621
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 4>go ahead and you know, have those guys backs no

622
00:31:35.559 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 4>matter the situation, and make sure that they know that

623
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<v Speaker 4>they're supported. Just like as he laid out, he is

624
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<v Speaker 4>supported on his side, because we've seen other examples before.

625
00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:50.200
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, let's just take Gabe Kapler for example.

626
00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 4>He's had two different chances at being a manager, and

627
00:31:53.240 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 4>he has been let go from both of those opportunities.

628
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<v Speaker 4>When I was in Atlanta, Walt Weisse, who was once

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<v Speaker 4>the manager of the Colorado Rockies, he had talked about

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<v Speaker 4>at least once that I can remember, of learning so

631
00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:08.599
<v Speaker 4>much from Brian Snicker in terms of how to take

632
00:32:08.640 --> 00:32:11.480
<v Speaker 4>the everyday approach of no matter how good it is,

633
00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:14.000
<v Speaker 4>no matter how bad it is, just be the same guy.

634
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:16.559
<v Speaker 4>They'll respect you for it, trust me, they will. And

635
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 4>he had talked about he made mistakes at doing that

636
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:20.920
<v Speaker 4>when he was in Colorado, and he said if he

637
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<v Speaker 4>got another opportunity that he would be a totally different

638
00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:26.039
<v Speaker 4>manager and he would handle it a totally different way.

639
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<v Speaker 4>Because you know, it's also to certain guys. I mean,

640
00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:33.799
<v Speaker 4>baseball is the ultimate the individual matters game of You

641
00:32:33.920 --> 00:32:36.680
<v Speaker 4>have certain guys that can deal with having a boot

642
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.640
<v Speaker 4>put to their backside. You also have certain guys that

643
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:42.279
<v Speaker 4>they respond to having an arm put around their shoulder,

644
00:32:42.799 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 4>and those are things as a manager you have to

645
00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.559
<v Speaker 4>be able to take inventory of that you can't have

646
00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:50.680
<v Speaker 4>a one size fits all approach to everybody. You've got

647
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:53.960
<v Speaker 4>to be able to handle your players the way that

648
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:57.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean that they are accustomed and comfortable being handled.

649
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:01.240
<v Speaker 4>And if you don't, then the result might not follow

650
00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 4>the way that you want him to. And for Walt

651
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.119
<v Speaker 4>Weiss in that scenario, it didn't. It landed him out

652
00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.119
<v Speaker 4>of a job because, yeah, he would do the callouts,

653
00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:12.440
<v Speaker 4>he would do the you know, I'm pissed off after

654
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.359
<v Speaker 4>this loss and and you know, calling out players at

655
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 4>nauseam and doing all those different types of things that

656
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:22.079
<v Speaker 4>for certain guys can kind of really turn them the

657
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 4>opposite direction of them saying I'm not fighting for this guy.

658
00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 5>You kidding me? And Joe Spotted did none of those things.

659
00:33:27.880 --> 00:33:31.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he completely stayed the course all season long.

660
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:33.160
<v Speaker 5>And it was funny too.

661
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 4>We had Chandler Rome once on the A team and

662
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:38.559
<v Speaker 4>he said that he had joked with Brian McTaggart of

663
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:40.319
<v Speaker 4>this is the day that Joe's going to snap.

664
00:33:40.359 --> 00:33:41.559
<v Speaker 5>This is the day he's gonna snap.

665
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.640
<v Speaker 4>He's going to freak out, he's gonna get angry, he's

666
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 4>gonna do all those different types of things.

667
00:33:45.440 --> 00:33:48.559
<v Speaker 5>And to Chandler's words, and he's right. He never did.

668
00:33:48.880 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 4>I mean he every single time if they had left,

669
00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:55.279
<v Speaker 4>you know, ten runners on base and they were zero

670
00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:58.240
<v Speaker 4>for eight with runners in scoring position, he would come

671
00:33:58.279 --> 00:33:59.720
<v Speaker 4>out and say, hey, we just didn't get the hit.

672
00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, that's baseball. That happens sometimes. And of course

673
00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:05.599
<v Speaker 4>people like me did not like that. But it's also

674
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:08.559
<v Speaker 4>too he understands because he's in that clubhouse, he has

675
00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 4>to face those guys on a daily basis, and I

676
00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 4>think his thought process at that time is why take

677
00:34:13.880 --> 00:34:18.360
<v Speaker 4>a you know, short term win, and social media probably says, yeah, Joe,

678
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:20.800
<v Speaker 4>you call out jose L two base for striking out

679
00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 4>looking with runners on second and third and one out,

680
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 4>you call out Jordan Alvarez for grinding into that double

681
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.920
<v Speaker 4>play right there, Absolutely you do that. But he said, no,

682
00:34:30.280 --> 00:34:32.519
<v Speaker 4>you know what, because I know who these guys are

683
00:34:32.519 --> 00:34:35.000
<v Speaker 4>and I know what they're capable of, and I'll take

684
00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:37.920
<v Speaker 4>the long term right here of maybe we don't win

685
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 4>right there, but as the law of averages work out

686
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.599
<v Speaker 4>in baseball, you'll get another chance, and maybe you'll get

687
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.079
<v Speaker 4>another chance after that. And it's it's about what you

688
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:49.199
<v Speaker 4>do in that spot as opposed to what you didn't

689
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:52.920
<v Speaker 4>do in the first spot when again, you know it precipitated,

690
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 4>maybe a call out is necessary at that point, but

691
00:34:56.360 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 4>he never did, and that was huge, and that was

692
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:00.639
<v Speaker 4>something that I definitely want to share with y'all here

693
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<v Speaker 4>on Space City Saturday.

694
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<v Speaker 5>Today.

695
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:05.079
<v Speaker 4>Didn't get a chance to get to the Alex Bregman topic.

696
00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:07.800
<v Speaker 4>We'll do that coming up on the other side. And

697
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:12.000
<v Speaker 4>we'll also as well get into what is the key

698
00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:15.280
<v Speaker 4>for the Astros starting on Tuesday in the wild card

699
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 4>round because the Astros making a run. It's pretty simple.

700
00:35:18.880 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 4>It's these guys cannot be left behind. We'll talk about

701
00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:26.079
<v Speaker 4>that on the other side, and also too, if you

702
00:35:26.119 --> 00:35:27.719
<v Speaker 4>want to weigh in on the phone lines, you can

703
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<v Speaker 4>do so some one three two one two five seven ninety.

704
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<v Speaker 4>Once again, that's Semon one three two on two five

705
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<v Speaker 4>seven nineties. We continue to roll along here on Space

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<v Speaker 4>City Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>Space City Saturday continues on Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 5>On Space City Saturday.

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00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:49.800
<v Speaker 4>Dan Matthews here with you for about another hour and

710
00:35:50.079 --> 00:35:52.559
<v Speaker 4>fifteen minutes. You want to weigh in, do so someone

711
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 4>three two one two five seven ninety. And of course

712
00:35:56.280 --> 00:36:00.119
<v Speaker 4>Space City Saturday not complete without the People's champ Paul Wall.

713
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.599
<v Speaker 4>He was in the building on Tuesday night for Clinch Day,

714
00:36:03.880 --> 00:36:07.480
<v Speaker 4>as he had even said that he knocked his popcorn

715
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:10.920
<v Speaker 4>over on Slim Thug and bun Bee as well, so

716
00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:13.280
<v Speaker 4>everybody was excited. I think he said he knocked his

717
00:36:13.320 --> 00:36:17.840
<v Speaker 4>popcorn over after the Jason Hayward to run Homer, which

718
00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:21.079
<v Speaker 4>of course was the difference in the game. So Jason

719
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.719
<v Speaker 4>Hayward what in addition to this team. He has been huge,

720
00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:29.119
<v Speaker 4>no doubt about it for the Strows and hopefully he

721
00:36:29.199 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 4>is able to continue to.

722
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:33.280
<v Speaker 5>Be huge for this team moving forward.

723
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<v Speaker 4>Again, if you want to weigh in, do so sub

724
00:36:35.679 --> 00:36:38.079
<v Speaker 4>one three two one two five seven ninety. Once again,

725
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:41.320
<v Speaker 4>that's sub one three two one two five seven nine

726
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.159
<v Speaker 4>zero is the way to get in. And before I

727
00:36:44.199 --> 00:36:47.719
<v Speaker 4>get to who's important to this Astros potential run in

728
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.840
<v Speaker 4>the postseason, wan't to spend a few minutes on Alex Bregman.

729
00:36:51.039 --> 00:36:55.679
<v Speaker 4>So Bregman the other day getting the curtain call on

730
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.480
<v Speaker 4>the field and the belief fourth inning, I think is

731
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:01.920
<v Speaker 4>he got a couple of at bats in that Wednesday

732
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 4>game against the Mariners, and you know he was able

733
00:37:06.159 --> 00:37:08.239
<v Speaker 4>to tip the cap to the fans, take it off

734
00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 4>and you know, be able to walk off the field

735
00:37:11.119 --> 00:37:13.719
<v Speaker 4>and had players coming up to him and slapping him

736
00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:15.440
<v Speaker 4>on the back. You know, hey, great job, all those

737
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:17.679
<v Speaker 4>different types of things, and a lot of people took

738
00:37:17.719 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 4>that to mean that that is the end of Alex Bregman,

739
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:23.440
<v Speaker 4>and an Astros uni Joe a Spot of course, talked

740
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 4>about it and said, well, look, I mean, even if

741
00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:27.119
<v Speaker 4>it is, it's not like we're never going to see

742
00:37:27.159 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 4>him again. But not only that, it doesn't mean that

743
00:37:29.599 --> 00:37:32.679
<v Speaker 4>that's the end. But I do appreciate his thought process

744
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 4>on it of if indeed it could be the end,

745
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:38.039
<v Speaker 4>why missed the opportunity to give him that chance? Because

746
00:37:38.440 --> 00:37:40.719
<v Speaker 4>Alex Bregman has been every step of the way for

747
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.840
<v Speaker 4>the Golden era of Astros Baseball, this organization that has

748
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 4>never seen any type of success like he has been

749
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.559
<v Speaker 4>a huge part of these last seven plus years that

750
00:37:51.639 --> 00:37:53.719
<v Speaker 4>the Astros have been on this run of making it

751
00:37:53.760 --> 00:37:56.320
<v Speaker 4>at least to the Alcs and a couple of times

752
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:59.280
<v Speaker 4>winning the World Series. So when you have a guy

753
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.239
<v Speaker 4>that was so huge in the build of this organization

754
00:38:02.519 --> 00:38:05.239
<v Speaker 4>and was kind of I think the final part of

755
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.079
<v Speaker 4>the build because we knew that George Springer was coming,

756
00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 4>we knew that that Carlos Koream was going to be

757
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.599
<v Speaker 4>here and they were already here, and Jose al Tuve

758
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:18.880
<v Speaker 4>before them as well, and Alex Bregman I think was

759
00:38:18.960 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 4>kind of that final piece. I think probably when Jeff

760
00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:23.800
<v Speaker 4>Luno drafted him, he probably thought to himself, this is

761
00:38:23.840 --> 00:38:26.119
<v Speaker 4>a guy that's a college player that could be up

762
00:38:26.159 --> 00:38:30.559
<v Speaker 4>here soon enough and also be ready sooner than later.

763
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:32.960
<v Speaker 5>And he was and he was ready to go.

764
00:38:33.039 --> 00:38:36.239
<v Speaker 4>And sixteen struggled a little bit, but then seventeen was

765
00:38:36.280 --> 00:38:38.559
<v Speaker 4>able to be a huge part of that team winning

766
00:38:38.599 --> 00:38:40.719
<v Speaker 4>the World Series, and you know, has been able to

767
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:44.800
<v Speaker 4>put together almost MVP seasons in between and has always

768
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 4>been an elite defender over there at third base. So

769
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:51.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean he's been able to provide all of those

770
00:38:51.480 --> 00:38:55.159
<v Speaker 4>things for this team. And after the season, once he

771
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:57.480
<v Speaker 4>goes to free agency, it's kind of all bets are off.

772
00:38:57.519 --> 00:39:00.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean, are they able to be able to to,

773
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:03.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, bring him back or is he going to

774
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 4>take the money from someone else. So I think all

775
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.320
<v Speaker 4>of that kind of come in, you know, came into

776
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:12.000
<v Speaker 4>play when it came to Bregman. But in regards to

777
00:39:12.119 --> 00:39:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Bregman himself, you know, talking about this a little bit

778
00:39:15.119 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 4>with Ross and also with Gordy and talked about a

779
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:21.440
<v Speaker 4>little bit on air those guys did about just how

780
00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.480
<v Speaker 4>he's approached everything. I mean, the other night there is

781
00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.679
<v Speaker 4>the Clubhouse celebration, and I think Gordy made the comment of,

782
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, he was almost kind of stoic in terms

783
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:31.679
<v Speaker 4>of his responses. I mean, we've seen a guy in

784
00:39:31.719 --> 00:39:34.199
<v Speaker 4>the past that had been pretty free with his words

785
00:39:34.360 --> 00:39:37.920
<v Speaker 4>in terms of, you know, in certain cases, being pretty bashful,

786
00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:41.320
<v Speaker 4>but not only that, also to really enjoying it. And

787
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 4>not to say that he wasn't enjoying it, but I

788
00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.519
<v Speaker 4>think that Bregman kind of you know, he knows that

789
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:49.000
<v Speaker 4>anytime a microphone is put in front of him, the

790
00:39:49.159 --> 00:39:52.239
<v Speaker 4>question of his impending free agency is going to be asked.

791
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:55.440
<v Speaker 4>And also too as well. I mean, you heard the

792
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:57.920
<v Speaker 4>comments that he said after the curtain call in that game,

793
00:39:58.079 --> 00:40:01.400
<v Speaker 4>saying I didn't know it was coming. And also too,

794
00:40:01.679 --> 00:40:03.519
<v Speaker 4>you know, just kind of trying to keep the emotions

795
00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:05.960
<v Speaker 4>out of it right now and trying to make sure

796
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 4>that that's not the focus. The focus is on this

797
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:11.679
<v Speaker 4>team trying to accomplish the goal that they've done twice

798
00:40:11.719 --> 00:40:14.960
<v Speaker 4>before and being able to do that with this team

799
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:17.119
<v Speaker 4>and then worry about everything else a little bit later.

800
00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:19.199
<v Speaker 4>I take it a little bit of a different step.

801
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.639
<v Speaker 4>Remember once the twenty nineteen World Series ended and Garrett

802
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.039
<v Speaker 4>Cole and you know, at first had declined to talk,

803
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.239
<v Speaker 4>and then I think the media in there. Again, I

804
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 4>wasn't here at the time, but you know, I'm just

805
00:40:30.840 --> 00:40:33.880
<v Speaker 4>going off of secondhand accounts of what I was told that.

806
00:40:34.119 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 5>You know.

807
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:36.800
<v Speaker 4>Of course, they went to the Astros and were like, hey, look,

808
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:38.440
<v Speaker 4>he might not be here next year.

809
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:40.480
<v Speaker 5>We want to be able to talk to him, like, you.

810
00:40:40.440 --> 00:40:43.119
<v Speaker 4>Know, I feel like he needs to to talk with

811
00:40:43.199 --> 00:40:46.039
<v Speaker 4>us and kind of address all of that. And finally,

812
00:40:46.159 --> 00:40:48.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, that was when Garrett Cole put on the

813
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:52.400
<v Speaker 4>Boris core pat and called himself a representative of himself

814
00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:55.239
<v Speaker 4>at that point, and people took that to mean, oh,

815
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.159
<v Speaker 4>so you're already mentally out of here?

816
00:40:57.199 --> 00:40:58.199
<v Speaker 5>Is that what it is?

817
00:40:58.559 --> 00:41:00.719
<v Speaker 4>And of course then he went on to sign with

818
00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:03.800
<v Speaker 4>the hated Yankees, which I think we all knew eventually

819
00:41:03.840 --> 00:41:06.719
<v Speaker 4>he was going to do. But still it was not

820
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:10.000
<v Speaker 4>a good feeling to not only lose the World Series

821
00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.039
<v Speaker 4>but then also too seemingly have somebody who was just

822
00:41:13.159 --> 00:41:15.519
<v Speaker 4>so over being an astro, they were ready to go.

823
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:18.800
<v Speaker 4>Bregman would never do that. But I think that kind

824
00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:22.719
<v Speaker 4>of his approach right now is to completely avoid being

825
00:41:22.800 --> 00:41:25.800
<v Speaker 4>anywhere close to being thought of in that same way.

826
00:41:26.159 --> 00:41:28.639
<v Speaker 4>And that's why he's shutting down the free agency talks,

827
00:41:28.679 --> 00:41:32.639
<v Speaker 4>That's why he's shutting down anything else in immediately saying

828
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 4>but I'm focused on right now, I'm not worried about

829
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.679
<v Speaker 4>that all of these different types of things, And I

830
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:40.480
<v Speaker 4>think that probably a huge part of that. Again, I've

831
00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:42.960
<v Speaker 4>talked about it before the Room of Truth that if

832
00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 4>you put Bregman in the Room of Truth and asked him, hey,

833
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 4>is it because of what happened with Garrett Cole, I

834
00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 4>think he'd probably tell you, yeah, it is, honestly because

835
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:54.719
<v Speaker 4>we saw how people reacted towards him when he acted

836
00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:55.119
<v Speaker 4>that way.

837
00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:56.599
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to be remembered that way.

838
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to be remembered if indeed I am

839
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.440
<v Speaker 4>with the Cubs, with the Diamondbacks or with the Red

840
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Sox or whoever it is next year that I come

841
00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:08.039
<v Speaker 4>back here and you know those turn into booze. I mean,

842
00:42:08.119 --> 00:42:11.079
<v Speaker 4>I think that as currently the way it is right now.

843
00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:14.239
<v Speaker 4>If Alex Bregman signs with somebody else, it's going to hurt,

844
00:42:14.360 --> 00:42:16.760
<v Speaker 4>it's not going to feel good. But I don't think

845
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:19.800
<v Speaker 4>you're going to have fans booing him, you know, full

846
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:23.840
<v Speaker 4>throats in that case because of you know, the way

847
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 4>that he either acted or you know, didn't act during

848
00:42:27.519 --> 00:42:30.519
<v Speaker 4>this time. I think that if he continues down this

849
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:33.199
<v Speaker 4>path and he has a good postseason, he'll be remembered fondly.

850
00:42:33.320 --> 00:42:36.079
<v Speaker 4>And we've seen at different places. I mean, the second

851
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:38.920
<v Speaker 4>time that Lebron left Cleveland, he came back to Cheers

852
00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:42.000
<v Speaker 4>instead of Booze because again, he did it the right way.

853
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.119
<v Speaker 4>He helped them win a world title, and when he left,

854
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 4>it was I've accomplished everything I needed to accomplish here.

855
00:42:48.039 --> 00:42:50.440
<v Speaker 4>And I think that, you know, Cavalier fans at the

856
00:42:50.480 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 4>point we're at the time, we're kind of like, Okay,

857
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 4>you know what, you're not wrong. You did, We appreciate it.

858
00:42:57.320 --> 00:42:59.840
<v Speaker 4>Go kill it in LA and when you come back here,

859
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.960
<v Speaker 4>you're always going to be welcome back here in Cleveland,

860
00:43:02.000 --> 00:43:04.880
<v Speaker 4>as opposed to when he publicized his breakup the first

861
00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 4>time and did the whole decision with Jim Gray and

862
00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:11.199
<v Speaker 4>then went to Miami, and you know, they had the

863
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:13.639
<v Speaker 4>huge celebration there, and it was almost kind of like,

864
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.159
<v Speaker 4>you know, oh, you think you're really really better than us. Okay,

865
00:43:16.559 --> 00:43:20.239
<v Speaker 4>that's cool, Thanks buddy. We really appreciate you saying that

866
00:43:20.559 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 4>not only are we ugly, but also to your new

867
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 4>partner is incredibly good looking, and that you know, there's

868
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 4>so much better than I ever was. Nobody ever wants

869
00:43:31.719 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 4>to hear that in the breakup. I mean, I think

870
00:43:33.679 --> 00:43:36.639
<v Speaker 4>kind of the similar deal as well, you know, the

871
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.920
<v Speaker 4>you know, the team that I used to cover the Braves.

872
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:42.760
<v Speaker 4>It was a similar situation in regards to Bregman, and

873
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:46.039
<v Speaker 4>hopefully it is kind of a similar ending because remember

874
00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.039
<v Speaker 4>when Freddie Freeman hit that home run that I think

875
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:51.239
<v Speaker 4>at the time it was Joe Buck who was on

876
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.480
<v Speaker 4>the call saying that might be the final home run

877
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 4>that he hits in a Braves uniform, And of course

878
00:43:55.480 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 4>fans there did not like hearing that at that point,

879
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:01.960
<v Speaker 4>but eventually he was right because then after the lockout lifted,

880
00:44:02.199 --> 00:44:05.119
<v Speaker 4>they went out and traded for Matt Olsen and extended him,

881
00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:07.800
<v Speaker 4>and Freddie Freeman was with the Dodgers and he came

882
00:44:07.840 --> 00:44:10.239
<v Speaker 4>back very emotional, and you know, I'm not saying that

883
00:44:10.599 --> 00:44:13.119
<v Speaker 4>when Bregman comes back, he's going to be incredibly emotional.

884
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:16.400
<v Speaker 4>But I think also too as well, that you know,

885
00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:20.239
<v Speaker 4>you want to be able to not burn any bridges whatsoever.

886
00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 4>And he loves this organization, he loves this city, and

887
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:26.599
<v Speaker 4>he loves everything that he's been able to do during

888
00:44:26.639 --> 00:44:27.320
<v Speaker 4>his time here.

889
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:29.360
<v Speaker 5>And you know, there's no need.

890
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.440
<v Speaker 4>To have a messy exit if you can avoid it,

891
00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.239
<v Speaker 4>And that's what I think he's trying to avoid at

892
00:44:34.239 --> 00:44:37.519
<v Speaker 4>all costs, really deep down when it's all said and done,

893
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:40.599
<v Speaker 4>because I think that Alex Bregman would like to stay here,

894
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:42.920
<v Speaker 4>if I'm being honest. I mean, that's just the sense

895
00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:45.159
<v Speaker 4>that I get. I think that if it worked out,

896
00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:47.440
<v Speaker 4>he would absolutely want to come back to the Astros.

897
00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:49.840
<v Speaker 4>But I think also too as well, he's a guy

898
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 4>that realizes he's on the cusp of getting the last

899
00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 4>huge payday that he's going to be able to get

900
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:59.000
<v Speaker 4>in this game. And if you don't take every advantage

901
00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 4>of doing that, then you kind of have some regrets

902
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:02.679
<v Speaker 4>when it's all said and done. And I know that

903
00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:05.119
<v Speaker 4>some people out there might say, oh, how much money

904
00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.079
<v Speaker 4>do you really need? Well, I mean that's for him

905
00:45:07.079 --> 00:45:08.960
<v Speaker 4>to decide it's not for any of us to decide.

906
00:45:09.119 --> 00:45:11.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's kind of like us in our professional lives.

907
00:45:11.280 --> 00:45:13.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you could take a job with somebody else,

908
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.480
<v Speaker 4>and you know it is going to slight somebody out

909
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:20.280
<v Speaker 4>there because they really want you to stay with a company.

910
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 4>But I think that if you can look that person

911
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.239
<v Speaker 4>in the eye and say I'm doing what's best for me,

912
00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.000
<v Speaker 4>and you say it with conviction, then they probably look

913
00:45:27.039 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 4>at you and say, I respect that, I understand that.

914
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:31.840
<v Speaker 4>And in this case right here with Bregman, I think

915
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of what he's setting himself up for. So

916
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:37.480
<v Speaker 4>we'll see how it all shakes out when it's all

917
00:45:37.559 --> 00:45:41.119
<v Speaker 4>said and done. I usually only keep the astros to

918
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:45.280
<v Speaker 4>one segment, but the topic, the topic B that I

919
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:47.559
<v Speaker 4>teased for this segment didn't have a chance to get

920
00:45:47.559 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 4>to it here, so we'll do that on the other side,

921
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:53.480
<v Speaker 4>as well as get into some Texans conversation. If you

922
00:45:53.480 --> 00:45:55.400
<v Speaker 4>want to weigh in on the astros, you can do

923
00:45:55.480 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 4>so seven one three two one two five seven ninety.

924
00:45:57.800 --> 00:46:01.360
<v Speaker 4>Once again, that's seven one three two one two seven ninety.

925
00:46:01.840 --> 00:46:04.599
<v Speaker 4>As also to in the second hour, we'll get into

926
00:46:04.639 --> 00:46:08.880
<v Speaker 4>some Texans conversation as we continue to roll along here

927
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:12.320
<v Speaker 4>on Space City Saturday. Dan Matthews here on your home

928
00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:18.280
<v Speaker 4>of the Astros and the Rockets, Sports Talk seven ninety.

929
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Welcome aboard, Welcome to another Space City Saturday. On Sports

930
00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Talk seven ninety, Dad Matthews Live and local h Town

931
00:46:31.079 --> 00:46:35.360
<v Speaker 1>breakdown of the world that matters to you, the Houston

932
00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 1>sports world.

933
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.159
<v Speaker 2>All these great Houston fans here.

934
00:46:38.320 --> 00:46:42.159
<v Speaker 3>We love you all, So finish up on that to

935
00:46:42.239 --> 00:46:42.760
<v Speaker 3>do list.

936
00:46:43.320 --> 00:46:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Flute up the cooler, because you can't drink in talk

937
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:50.079
<v Speaker 1>sports all day if you don't start now bear me

938
00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:50.559
<v Speaker 1>the eight.

939
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:56.440
<v Speaker 3>This is Space City Saturday. That's insane. Here's seven nineties

940
00:46:56.599 --> 00:46:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Dad Matthews.

941
00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Indeed, it is Space City Saturday. Dan Matthews here with

942
00:47:05.960 --> 00:47:08.480
<v Speaker 4>you for another hour. You want to weigh in, do

943
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:12.280
<v Speaker 4>so someone three two one two five seven ninety once again,

944
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:15.960
<v Speaker 4>that's Sebon one three two one two five seven nine

945
00:47:16.360 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 4>zero as the Astros again today taking on the Cleveland Guardians.

946
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:25.800
<v Speaker 4>Gonna be Justin Berlander against Ben Lively. First pitch five

947
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.440
<v Speaker 4>to ten. Coming your way again over on news Radio

948
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:33.920
<v Speaker 4>seven forty KTRH. Everything Astros related today gonna be over

949
00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:38.760
<v Speaker 4>on news Radio seven forty KTRH because the Astros are

950
00:47:39.679 --> 00:47:43.639
<v Speaker 4>right at the same time that the Texas in Mississippi

951
00:47:43.719 --> 00:47:46.519
<v Speaker 4>State game is going to be finishing up.

952
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 5>And before I.

953
00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:50.880
<v Speaker 4>Get into my final Astros topic right here, another team

954
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:55.119
<v Speaker 4>that we have here on the airwaves is the LSU Tigers.

955
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 4>And I'm sure that last week some of you either

956
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.679
<v Speaker 4>were watching or paying some what attention. But if you

957
00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:05.599
<v Speaker 4>weren't paying too close of attention to that game, LSU

958
00:48:05.679 --> 00:48:06.639
<v Speaker 4>taken on UCLA.

959
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:07.519
<v Speaker 5>They win the game.

960
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.840
<v Speaker 4>But what the storyline kind of became was the fans

961
00:48:10.880 --> 00:48:13.920
<v Speaker 4>that had left the game, especially on the east side

962
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:19.079
<v Speaker 4>of the stadium, because of the incredibly strong heat that

963
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.519
<v Speaker 4>was there at Tiger Stadium for the game. I believe

964
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:24.480
<v Speaker 4>they showed ninety seven degrees with one hundred percent humidity

965
00:48:24.840 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 4>at kickoff there for that two thirty kick against UCLA.

966
00:48:28.239 --> 00:48:30.760
<v Speaker 4>And eventually you had fans who said, I can't do

967
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 4>this anymore. I cannot stay for this. I have to leave.

968
00:48:33.800 --> 00:48:35.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to go back to the tailgate or I'm

969
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:37.480
<v Speaker 4>going to go home watch the rest of it. But

970
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.679
<v Speaker 4>I mean, it's just this is too much. And you know,

971
00:48:40.760 --> 00:48:42.880
<v Speaker 4>I know some people might say, oh, well, hydrate, do

972
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 4>all those different types of things look you're in a

973
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.639
<v Speaker 4>concrete structure like that, with metal benches and hundreds of

974
00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:54.400
<v Speaker 4>thousands of people around you, that heat really becomes overwhelming

975
00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:57.239
<v Speaker 4>at a certain point. And I did not know this

976
00:48:57.360 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 4>until it was brought up to Brian Kelly that in Air,

977
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:04.400
<v Speaker 4>Arizona they have a law that in the month of September,

978
00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:08.320
<v Speaker 4>you cannot start a game before six o'clock, which I mean.

979
00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 4>I also took to social media on top of that

980
00:49:11.400 --> 00:49:13.840
<v Speaker 4>and it said, I think that needs to be adopted

981
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 4>by states in the golf region Texas, Louisiana, especially Southern Louisiana.

982
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:21.639
<v Speaker 4>Melvin Brown, you know that from growing up in the

983
00:49:21.679 --> 00:49:25.239
<v Speaker 4>area that just like Houston, the heat and humidity it

984
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:30.519
<v Speaker 4>is relentless, especially in the month of September. Mississippi even too,

985
00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:34.039
<v Speaker 4>you know, for Lower Alabama right there, Mobile Southern you know,

986
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:34.880
<v Speaker 4>South Alabama.

987
00:49:34.920 --> 00:49:37.440
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how they handle their games. Florida.

988
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.840
<v Speaker 4>I would probably do the same thing as well, because,

989
00:49:40.880 --> 00:49:43.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean football, you think about it, it's a physical game.

990
00:49:43.880 --> 00:49:46.599
<v Speaker 4>It's also to a game that you wear a lot

991
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:50.599
<v Speaker 4>more equipment than other sports. I mean baseball. You know,

992
00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:54.199
<v Speaker 4>catchers probably are pretty close to football players in terms

993
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:56.800
<v Speaker 4>of the pads the helmets, everything else of the sort.

994
00:49:57.039 --> 00:49:59.039
<v Speaker 4>So you've got to make sure that you're trying to

995
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:02.199
<v Speaker 4>keep yourself as cool and hydrated as possible to be

996
00:50:02.280 --> 00:50:04.920
<v Speaker 4>able to, you know, be able to stay healthy and

997
00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 4>finish out those games. I mean, we see cramps this

998
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:09.199
<v Speaker 4>time of the year, all those different types of things.

999
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:11.440
<v Speaker 5>But it's also too as well.

1000
00:50:11.559 --> 00:50:14.679
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, I understand that you can't be

1001
00:50:14.760 --> 00:50:17.519
<v Speaker 4>able to try to, you know, look out for the

1002
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:20.280
<v Speaker 4>well being of everyone out there. Some of that is

1003
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.800
<v Speaker 4>up to you personally, but I mean, there's zero reason

1004
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 4>for that game to be played at two thirty on

1005
00:50:26.559 --> 00:50:29.719
<v Speaker 4>a Saturday, I mean, especially to when you factor in

1006
00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:31.440
<v Speaker 4>how hot it is this time of the year. You

1007
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.199
<v Speaker 4>can very easily have that game played at seven o'clock

1008
00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:38.159
<v Speaker 4>or you know, even a little bit later as well,

1009
00:50:38.280 --> 00:50:41.199
<v Speaker 4>if you want to, because I mean, I just, I

1010
00:50:41.599 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 4>just I shudder to think of, you know, the type

1011
00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:48.199
<v Speaker 4>of dangerous game that you're playing when it comes to

1012
00:50:48.880 --> 00:50:52.559
<v Speaker 4>dealing with those type of temperatures with not only players, coaches, trainers,

1013
00:50:52.599 --> 00:50:56.239
<v Speaker 4>whoever it might be, but fans as well, that eventually

1014
00:50:56.400 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 4>you're going to have somebody succume to heat stroke. And

1015
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.920
<v Speaker 4>when that happened, and then you're dealing with other legal

1016
00:51:01.960 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 4>issues that again, I just I feel like some of

1017
00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:06.800
<v Speaker 4>these schools and also too.

1018
00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:09.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean the network. I know the game was on ABC.

1019
00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:12.280
<v Speaker 4>There's zero reason why that game can't can't be played

1020
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.400
<v Speaker 4>later and you can have I don't know, you know,

1021
00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:19.079
<v Speaker 4>South Carolina playing at that time or anybody else playing

1022
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.119
<v Speaker 4>at that time, as opposed to a team that is

1023
00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:26.119
<v Speaker 4>right there on the Mississippi River in southern Louisiana where

1024
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:30.159
<v Speaker 4>the heat and humidity is unreal that time of day.

1025
00:51:30.400 --> 00:51:33.840
<v Speaker 4>So I think you can you can have the better

1026
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:36.880
<v Speaker 4>part of valor at that point. I mean LSU, for example,

1027
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:39.800
<v Speaker 4>taken on South Alabama tonight in that game is gonna

1028
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:42.599
<v Speaker 4>be at six forty five, so it'll be a little cooler.

1029
00:51:43.119 --> 00:51:46.360
<v Speaker 4>But two at the same time, just don't really understand

1030
00:51:46.519 --> 00:51:49.199
<v Speaker 4>having to say, oh no, no, no, no, this game has

1031
00:51:49.239 --> 00:51:51.400
<v Speaker 4>to be played right now. I just I think that

1032
00:51:51.480 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 4>you're running into risks and issues that just don't need

1033
00:51:55.280 --> 00:51:58.440
<v Speaker 4>to be there. So that's just me on that front.

1034
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:01.880
<v Speaker 4>To close out the ASTRA topic right here, one of

1035
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:04.400
<v Speaker 4>the things that has been a little bit of a

1036
00:52:04.519 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 4>point of frustration and contention this year for the Astros

1037
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.639
<v Speaker 4>has been runners in scoring position, and the Astros, with

1038
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:15.920
<v Speaker 4>two more games left in this regular season, are thirteenth

1039
00:52:15.960 --> 00:52:18.360
<v Speaker 4>and all of baseball hitting with runners in scoring position,

1040
00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:22.159
<v Speaker 4>they're batting two sixty nine this season with a seven

1041
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:23.440
<v Speaker 4>to fifty six OPS.

1042
00:52:23.480 --> 00:52:25.679
<v Speaker 5>So middle of the pack. Not bad.

1043
00:52:25.880 --> 00:52:28.400
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you've got the Diamondbacks of the best in baseball,

1044
00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:31.280
<v Speaker 4>the Yankees are fourth, got the Dodgers who are seventh,

1045
00:52:31.679 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 4>and the Astros of the postseason teams still left out

1046
00:52:35.159 --> 00:52:39.159
<v Speaker 4>there are you know, a little bit further behind those teams.

1047
00:52:39.239 --> 00:52:41.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, got Arizona hit in two eighty four in

1048
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:44.719
<v Speaker 4>those spots. I mean, they've been outstanding this season. So

1049
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:48.440
<v Speaker 4>I just think that that's number one of a thing

1050
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:52.239
<v Speaker 4>that hopefully, with the flip to the postseason, it's going

1051
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:54.000
<v Speaker 4>to be kind of a little bit of a mental

1052
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:57.800
<v Speaker 4>reset of, Hey, that happened. We don't have to have

1053
00:52:57.840 --> 00:53:00.639
<v Speaker 4>that happen in the postseason. We are we are now,

1054
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:03.199
<v Speaker 4>we were who we were then, And I think that

1055
00:53:03.199 --> 00:53:04.679
<v Speaker 4>that's kind of a little bit of a switch that

1056
00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.599
<v Speaker 4>needs to happen. But also too as well. I brought

1057
00:53:07.639 --> 00:53:11.199
<v Speaker 4>up the stats of last night as encouraging things to

1058
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:14.559
<v Speaker 4>see from this team, because these are things that we

1059
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.559
<v Speaker 4>want to see the Astros be able to have going forward.

1060
00:53:17.599 --> 00:53:19.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, a couple of doubles last night for jose

1061
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.760
<v Speaker 4>al Tuve. I've said it numerous times, jose L Tuove

1062
00:53:23.119 --> 00:53:25.800
<v Speaker 4>is a lot like Craig Biggio in that fact, where

1063
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:27.159
<v Speaker 4>what was Bigio known for him?

1064
00:53:27.159 --> 00:53:28.800
<v Speaker 5>He was known for the two baggers, he was known

1065
00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:29.320
<v Speaker 5>for doubles.

1066
00:53:29.559 --> 00:53:32.440
<v Speaker 4>If he's hitting doubles and you know that Craig Bigio

1067
00:53:32.480 --> 00:53:35.079
<v Speaker 4>is swinging it well, Jose al Tuve the same deal.

1068
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:37.199
<v Speaker 4>You love to see the home runs, you love to

1069
00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:41.719
<v Speaker 4>see just the base hits in Moss, but you'd love

1070
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:43.760
<v Speaker 4>to see it even more so. I think in this

1071
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 4>case right here, seeing that last night out of jose

1072
00:53:46.599 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 4>L Twovy, that was huge. You're gonna need jose al

1073
00:53:49.280 --> 00:53:51.840
<v Speaker 4>Tuova in the postseason. He's going to be a guy

1074
00:53:51.920 --> 00:53:54.880
<v Speaker 4>that has to factor for this team. We'll see what

1075
00:53:54.920 --> 00:53:57.480
<v Speaker 4>we get out of Jordan Alvarez. But Kyle Tucker, I

1076
00:53:57.480 --> 00:54:00.679
<v Speaker 4>mean last year he struggled in the postseason. Probably Kyle

1077
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 4>Tucker's struggles were a huge reason why this team did

1078
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Speaker 4>not move on to the.

1079
00:54:03.760 --> 00:54:04.840
<v Speaker 5>World Series last year.

1080
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.840
<v Speaker 4>Now, on the surface, you hear that and you hear

1081
00:54:07.880 --> 00:54:11.360
<v Speaker 4>me kind of putting the Astros losing in seven games

1082
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:13.639
<v Speaker 4>to the Rangers on the shoulders of Kyle Tucker. No,

1083
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 4>it's not fully on him. Other guys also needed to

1084
00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:18.840
<v Speaker 4>help out as well in terms of getting a huge

1085
00:54:18.880 --> 00:54:20.880
<v Speaker 4>clutch hit to be able to win at home, but

1086
00:54:21.280 --> 00:54:25.480
<v Speaker 4>him being a non factor definitely hurt the Astros last year,

1087
00:54:25.599 --> 00:54:27.880
<v Speaker 4>So you would love to see hopefully he's a little

1088
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:29.960
<v Speaker 4>bit more fresh from being out for the time that

1089
00:54:30.000 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 4>he's been out and now has an opportunity to be

1090
00:54:32.840 --> 00:54:36.400
<v Speaker 4>able to be a huge part of what the Astros

1091
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:38.360
<v Speaker 4>want to be in terms of getting back to the

1092
00:54:38.360 --> 00:54:41.079
<v Speaker 4>World Series and hopefully winning it the World Series. And

1093
00:54:41.199 --> 00:54:43.199
<v Speaker 4>last night, three hits out of him, you love to

1094
00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:45.360
<v Speaker 4>see that. Three hits out of Alex Bregman, you love

1095
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 4>to see that as well. Janar Diaz even able to

1096
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:50.440
<v Speaker 4>chip in with a base hit last night, and then

1097
00:54:50.519 --> 00:54:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Victor Carrottini of course the home run. You love seeing that,

1098
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:56.159
<v Speaker 4>especially after the struggles that he's been going through as

1099
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:58.039
<v Speaker 4>of late. The strikeouts have kind of gone up for

1100
00:54:58.119 --> 00:55:01.639
<v Speaker 4>Victor Kartini, but you'd love for him to be able

1101
00:55:01.639 --> 00:55:03.679
<v Speaker 4>to help out and he's kind of become an everyday

1102
00:55:03.719 --> 00:55:06.519
<v Speaker 4>player at this point, especially while Jordan Alvarez is out,

1103
00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:08.360
<v Speaker 4>you want to get somebody in there that can be

1104
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:09.840
<v Speaker 4>able to put the ball on play, but not only

1105
00:55:09.880 --> 00:55:12.960
<v Speaker 4>put the ball in play, can be able to have

1106
00:55:13.159 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 4>huge results when they do. So you've got a runner

1107
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:17.760
<v Speaker 4>on second and third. He's able to put a single

1108
00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.000
<v Speaker 4>out in the center field. That's two runs right there.

1109
00:55:20.239 --> 00:55:20.960
<v Speaker 4>That's huge.

1110
00:55:21.199 --> 00:55:21.800
<v Speaker 5>Two runs.

1111
00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:25.039
<v Speaker 4>That's a massive rally in the postseason, and if you're

1112
00:55:25.039 --> 00:55:27.239
<v Speaker 4>able to get that out of him, that's huge. So

1113
00:55:27.920 --> 00:55:30.360
<v Speaker 4>I've said it numerous times, and I know that you

1114
00:55:30.400 --> 00:55:32.360
<v Speaker 4>know it's one of those that you know, some people

1115
00:55:32.639 --> 00:55:35.320
<v Speaker 4>might say I'm obsessed in bringing up this point when

1116
00:55:35.360 --> 00:55:38.440
<v Speaker 4>it comes to the Astros, But yeah, call me obsessed.

1117
00:55:38.519 --> 00:55:41.039
<v Speaker 4>I would actually say that I'm committed in terms of

1118
00:55:41.079 --> 00:55:44.400
<v Speaker 4>saying what is needed for this team because those guys

1119
00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:48.159
<v Speaker 4>have to be what pushes this team forward. You've seen

1120
00:55:48.159 --> 00:55:51.400
<v Speaker 4>it numerous times when Jose Altuve, when Kyle Tucker, when

1121
00:55:51.440 --> 00:55:55.039
<v Speaker 4>Alex Bregman, when Jiner Diaz, when they are hitting the

1122
00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:57.960
<v Speaker 4>baseball and they are able to be the guys that

1123
00:55:58.000 --> 00:56:00.400
<v Speaker 4>we know that they're capable of being. I think he

1124
00:56:00.480 --> 00:56:02.360
<v Speaker 4>translates to the rest of the lineup. I think that's

1125
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:04.719
<v Speaker 4>why you see production out of the bottom of the order.

1126
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:06.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you'd love to see Jake Myers get going

1127
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:09.039
<v Speaker 4>a little bit. I know that he struck out a

1128
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:11.239
<v Speaker 4>couple of times last night. That's been a little bit

1129
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:14.119
<v Speaker 4>of an issue for him as of late. Jeremy Pania,

1130
00:56:14.280 --> 00:56:16.239
<v Speaker 4>maybe these couple of days off are kind of the

1131
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:19.360
<v Speaker 4>mental reset that he needed, and you know, maybe he's

1132
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.400
<v Speaker 4>been able to work on some things off to the

1133
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:24.639
<v Speaker 4>side in terms of, you know, pitch selection and what

1134
00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.000
<v Speaker 4>to offer at and you know, for the longest time,

1135
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.840
<v Speaker 4>it was the outside slider was kind of his kryptonite. Well,

1136
00:56:29.840 --> 00:56:32.519
<v Speaker 4>seemingly it's been the inside fastball, well off the plate

1137
00:56:32.599 --> 00:56:35.239
<v Speaker 4>that's been his kryptonite. It's what ended the game against

1138
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:37.199
<v Speaker 4>the Angels the other day, and he also struck out

1139
00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:40.360
<v Speaker 4>on a similar pitch against the Mariners in that last series.

1140
00:56:40.519 --> 00:56:43.360
<v Speaker 4>So I think he's somebody that Joe Aspotta looked at

1141
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.199
<v Speaker 4>and said, yeah, need to have a little bit of

1142
00:56:45.199 --> 00:56:47.480
<v Speaker 4>time off for him to be able to try to

1143
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:49.400
<v Speaker 4>be fresh and be a guy that we can count

1144
00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:52.079
<v Speaker 4>on in the postseason. But it starts with the top.

1145
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:54.639
<v Speaker 4>It starts with the top guys. If they are going

1146
00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:57.480
<v Speaker 4>and they are swinging it well and they are able

1147
00:56:57.519 --> 00:56:59.800
<v Speaker 4>to produce for this team, then I think good things happen.

1148
00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:02.800
<v Speaker 4>I think not only good things happen in the Wildcard Series,

1149
00:57:02.840 --> 00:57:05.280
<v Speaker 4>but I think also too in the DS. Again, if

1150
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 4>you take on the Cleveland Guardians, I think the Astros

1151
00:57:07.800 --> 00:57:10.360
<v Speaker 4>feel like they match up pretty well against Cleveland, and

1152
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.079
<v Speaker 4>then you move on to the LCS and whoever you've

1153
00:57:13.119 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 4>got in in that round, and you know, feel like

1154
00:57:16.000 --> 00:57:18.199
<v Speaker 4>you've got a good chance against them, because I mean,

1155
00:57:18.280 --> 00:57:19.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's one of those things. I know that

1156
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:22.800
<v Speaker 4>the Yankees probably really want to see the Astros because

1157
00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 4>of what the Astros have done to them in at

1158
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:28.920
<v Speaker 4>least three lcs's against them, and also to the Wildcard

1159
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:32.960
<v Speaker 4>back in twenty fifteen. But also too as well, I

1160
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 4>think you're seeing teams that are trending in totally different directions.

1161
00:57:36.239 --> 00:57:38.440
<v Speaker 4>The Astros are not the same team they were when

1162
00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:41.079
<v Speaker 4>they lost the Yankees early on in the season, and

1163
00:57:41.119 --> 00:57:43.559
<v Speaker 4>then when they face them up in the Bronx about

1164
00:57:43.559 --> 00:57:46.320
<v Speaker 4>a month or two later, they're a completely different ball club.

1165
00:57:46.480 --> 00:57:48.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, they are a team that is

1166
00:57:48.679 --> 00:57:51.280
<v Speaker 4>hitting the ball better, They're pitching so much better, they're

1167
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.119
<v Speaker 4>healthier on the pitching side than they were at those times.

1168
00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:56.800
<v Speaker 4>And also too, this is a Yankees bullpen at the

1169
00:57:56.840 --> 00:57:59.119
<v Speaker 4>beginning of the season was outstanding and it's kind of

1170
00:57:59.119 --> 00:58:01.000
<v Speaker 4>fallen off. It's kind kind have become a little bit

1171
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:04.360
<v Speaker 4>of a liability for Aaron Boone's team. So I think

1172
00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:06.599
<v Speaker 4>that's one of those that if you're in those situations,

1173
00:58:06.639 --> 00:58:10.280
<v Speaker 4>the Astros fuel even more confident facing that group. You know,

1174
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:13.519
<v Speaker 4>Chad Holmes and and you know other guys that come

1175
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 4>out of the bullpen for the Yankees that you know

1176
00:58:17.079 --> 00:58:19.039
<v Speaker 4>in the past they probably were like, man, I hope

1177
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:20.639
<v Speaker 4>we can get to them. Now I think they kind

1178
00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:22.239
<v Speaker 4>of feel like, no, we can get to them, and

1179
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:24.880
<v Speaker 4>we will get to them. So I don't think that

1180
00:58:25.119 --> 00:58:27.679
<v Speaker 4>there is this fear of the Yankees whatsoever. I think

1181
00:58:27.719 --> 00:58:30.159
<v Speaker 4>if the Astros seam of the postseason, they're like, hey,

1182
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:31.960
<v Speaker 4>we've handled these guys in the past. We can do

1183
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:35.039
<v Speaker 4>it again, And I think that it would be a

1184
00:58:35.159 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 4>very advantageous matchup. But again, you got to get through

1185
00:58:38.199 --> 00:58:40.679
<v Speaker 4>so much more before you can get to that point,

1186
00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:44.199
<v Speaker 4>and hopefully the Astros can get there all right. Coming

1187
00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:48.400
<v Speaker 4>out next, let's get into some Texans conversation because Demiko

1188
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:51.119
<v Speaker 4>Ryans got to prove a point that he's been trying

1189
00:58:51.320 --> 00:58:55.320
<v Speaker 4>to prove. Tomorrow will be proof if indeed he has

1190
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:58.199
<v Speaker 4>been heard. We'll talk about that on the other side

1191
00:58:58.239 --> 00:59:01.039
<v Speaker 4>as we continue to roll along here on Base City Saturday.

1192
00:59:01.320 --> 00:59:03.159
<v Speaker 4>Dan Matthews, you're on your home of the Astros in

1193
00:59:03.159 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 4>the Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety.

1194
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:11.199
<v Speaker 1>It's Space City Saturday on Sports Talk seven nineteen.

1195
00:59:11.599 --> 00:59:16.880
<v Speaker 4>Come on, not wrong LL backing up the Astros in

1196
00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:19.599
<v Speaker 4>this regard. I'm sure he's a Dodgers guy. That's all right,

1197
00:59:19.639 --> 00:59:23.119
<v Speaker 4>we won't hold it against him. But anyway, Astros and

1198
00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.480
<v Speaker 4>Guardians today again, I mean, look, you know, these are

1199
00:59:26.519 --> 00:59:28.840
<v Speaker 4>games that I think you're looking at if you're an

1200
00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:32.159
<v Speaker 4>Astros fan of the result doesn't necessarily matter because the

1201
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:35.480
<v Speaker 4>result really doesn't matter. You're going to be here on

1202
00:59:35.519 --> 00:59:38.639
<v Speaker 4>Tuesday regardless. You're going to be in the wildcard round

1203
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:42.800
<v Speaker 4>on Tuesday regardless. So in that case, I mean, I

1204
00:59:42.840 --> 00:59:44.519
<v Speaker 4>think that you're kind of just looking at it as

1205
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 4>don't get people hurt, and that's what you're hoping is

1206
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:50.119
<v Speaker 4>the case for the Shrows. So again, it's gonna be

1207
00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:53.519
<v Speaker 4>justin Berlander and it's been lively coming your way at

1208
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:57.280
<v Speaker 4>five to ten is first pitch. Four o'clock is Astros

1209
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:01.639
<v Speaker 4>on deck again with Longhorn Football here on Sports Talk

1210
01:00:01.719 --> 01:00:04.239
<v Speaker 4>seven ninety. We'll be over on news Radio seven forty

1211
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:08.679
<v Speaker 4>KTRH coming your way for the game and both on

1212
01:00:08.760 --> 01:00:11.599
<v Speaker 4>deck and the tenth inning show for that all right,

1213
01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:14.239
<v Speaker 4>coming up right now. I wanted to get into some

1214
01:00:14.519 --> 01:00:17.519
<v Speaker 4>Texans conversation as the Texans bring in the O and

1215
01:00:17.719 --> 01:00:24.000
<v Speaker 4>three Jacksonville Jaguars tomorrow over at NRG Stadium, and the

1216
01:00:24.079 --> 01:00:27.719
<v Speaker 4>ask excuse me the Texans coming off a tough loss

1217
01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:31.840
<v Speaker 4>last week to the Minnesota Vikings, not fun whatsoever. This

1218
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:35.599
<v Speaker 4>was a Texans team that would you say was playing

1219
01:00:35.639 --> 01:00:38.039
<v Speaker 4>good football in the first couple of weeks of the season.

1220
01:00:38.079 --> 01:00:40.000
<v Speaker 4>As I said in the first segment, they weren't. I

1221
01:00:40.000 --> 01:00:42.679
<v Speaker 4>mean the team that, if you're being honest with yourself,

1222
01:00:43.119 --> 01:00:45.559
<v Speaker 4>you could look at and say, man, they were lucky

1223
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:48.079
<v Speaker 4>to win both of those games. They were a Joe

1224
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:51.719
<v Speaker 4>Mixon performance away from starting off the season oh to

1225
01:00:51.800 --> 01:00:54.719
<v Speaker 4>one on the road against Indianapolis, a game that I

1226
01:00:54.760 --> 01:00:57.119
<v Speaker 4>thought possibly they were going to lose, but they ended

1227
01:00:57.199 --> 01:00:59.559
<v Speaker 4>up not losing it, so that was nice to see.

1228
01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:03.199
<v Speaker 4>And the following week against a rookie quarterback in Caleb Williams.

1229
01:01:03.320 --> 01:01:05.159
<v Speaker 4>You were lucky enough to be able to win that game.

1230
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:08.559
<v Speaker 4>So you're two to zero after the entire offseason of

1231
01:01:08.599 --> 01:01:11.679
<v Speaker 4>being told that this is a Super Bowl contender and

1232
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.559
<v Speaker 4>that this team is going to be prib you know,

1233
01:01:14.639 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 4>prime to you know, win you know a lot in

1234
01:01:18.280 --> 01:01:21.119
<v Speaker 4>this season. I just talked about, you know, the possibility

1235
01:01:21.119 --> 01:01:23.920
<v Speaker 4>of being able to play for and maybe win a

1236
01:01:23.960 --> 01:01:26.760
<v Speaker 4>Lombardy but also too for the first time in their

1237
01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:29.880
<v Speaker 4>franchise history, make the AFC Championship Game.

1238
01:01:30.079 --> 01:01:31.360
<v Speaker 5>So what do we call all that?

1239
01:01:31.679 --> 01:01:34.280
<v Speaker 4>Well, a few years ago, remember Nick Saban said it's

1240
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:38.400
<v Speaker 4>called rat poison, and Demiko Ryans, being a good Alabama

1241
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:40.639
<v Speaker 4>man that he is, I think he's kind of subscribed

1242
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:43.239
<v Speaker 4>a little bit too. Don't take the rat poison, don't

1243
01:01:43.239 --> 01:01:45.719
<v Speaker 4>take the cheese. It's got that poison in there. So

1244
01:01:46.880 --> 01:01:50.800
<v Speaker 4>Demiko Ryans asked this week about said rat poison and

1245
01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:53.760
<v Speaker 4>wondering is that a reason why they lost to Minnesota

1246
01:01:53.840 --> 01:01:54.360
<v Speaker 4>last week?

1247
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:56.960
<v Speaker 7>Last week, we didn't play well at the end of

1248
01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 7>the day, That's that's all it came down to. We

1249
01:01:58.880 --> 01:02:03.920
<v Speaker 7>didn't play well. We had some good moments where we executed,

1250
01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:06.800
<v Speaker 7>made some nice plays, but they were negated by us.

1251
01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:08.360
<v Speaker 5>So it's very hard to win.

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01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:12.079
<v Speaker 7>Again, when you got the Texans and the Vikings playing

1253
01:02:12.079 --> 01:02:15.519
<v Speaker 7>against the Texas, that's pretty hard to win that game.

1254
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:17.639
<v Speaker 7>So once we get the Texans out of the way

1255
01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.000
<v Speaker 7>and we just go focus on our opponent and we

1256
01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:22.760
<v Speaker 7>handle us well and we'll be just fine.

1257
01:02:23.519 --> 01:02:26.039
<v Speaker 4>So I mean, it's one of those things that Demiko

1258
01:02:26.159 --> 01:02:28.400
<v Speaker 4>Ryan's in an outward way, because we talked about this

1259
01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:30.000
<v Speaker 4>all the time. I think I've mentioned this to y'all

1260
01:02:30.039 --> 01:02:32.639
<v Speaker 4>before that coaches will talk to their team through the media,

1261
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:35.719
<v Speaker 4>and in this case, I think that probably the message

1262
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:39.440
<v Speaker 4>has been from Demiko to his players in not a

1263
01:02:39.639 --> 01:02:43.119
<v Speaker 4>contentious way, but at least the way of, hey, I

1264
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:44.880
<v Speaker 4>played in this league. I know what it takes to

1265
01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:47.840
<v Speaker 4>win in this league, and what you did and what

1266
01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:50.679
<v Speaker 4>you've been doing is not the way that you do

1267
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:53.840
<v Speaker 4>that in this league. And it's kind of a do

1268
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:57.199
<v Speaker 4>you believe me now to his players because we've also

1269
01:02:57.280 --> 01:03:00.480
<v Speaker 4>heard from others not only in the building, you know,

1270
01:03:00.559 --> 01:03:03.280
<v Speaker 4>on the team as players or coaches, but remember Nick

1271
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:07.199
<v Speaker 4>Casserio at the combine this year, he had talked about, hey,

1272
01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:09.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, we did a lot of great things. Last year,

1273
01:03:09.559 --> 01:03:11.800
<v Speaker 4>we also won a lot of really close games, and

1274
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:14.679
<v Speaker 4>we can't count on that result being the same this season.

1275
01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:18.119
<v Speaker 4>So everybody just believing that we're going to you know,

1276
01:03:18.360 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 4>move ahead and going to be, you know, the the

1277
01:03:22.559 --> 01:03:24.679
<v Speaker 4>champions of the NFL just because of what we did

1278
01:03:24.719 --> 01:03:25.239
<v Speaker 4>last year.

1279
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:26.639
<v Speaker 5>That's not how this league works.

1280
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:29.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, one year's success does not translate to the next.

1281
01:03:30.280 --> 01:03:32.159
<v Speaker 4>And I think that, you know, it's a little bit

1282
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:34.360
<v Speaker 4>of kind of battling through that right now, because human

1283
01:03:34.440 --> 01:03:36.760
<v Speaker 4>nature does come in. I don't think that you have

1284
01:03:36.920 --> 01:03:39.679
<v Speaker 4>Texans players out there saying, oh, we're good, don't worry

1285
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:41.480
<v Speaker 4>about it, it'll get figured out. I think they are

1286
01:03:41.519 --> 01:03:44.000
<v Speaker 4>trying to work towards getting to that point.

1287
01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:44.360
<v Speaker 5>And c J.

1288
01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:46.480
<v Speaker 4>Stroud even talked about it as much this week, I

1289
01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:50.239
<v Speaker 4>mean in a ridiculous way. He was asked about the

1290
01:03:50.280 --> 01:03:52.840
<v Speaker 4>confidence in Bobby Slowik and he was like, no, of course,

1291
01:03:52.880 --> 01:03:54.440
<v Speaker 4>we still have confidence in Bobby Slok.

1292
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:55.760
<v Speaker 5>And here's the other part of it as well.

1293
01:03:56.119 --> 01:03:58.920
<v Speaker 4>Usually your offense is not what it's supposed to be

1294
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:02.199
<v Speaker 4>until about week five, five for week six. So yeah,

1295
01:04:02.280 --> 01:04:05.320
<v Speaker 4>there's some disjointedness right now in our offense. But it

1296
01:04:05.360 --> 01:04:07.639
<v Speaker 4>doesn't mean that's who we are as a team, and

1297
01:04:07.639 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't mean that's going to be who we are

1298
01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:12.920
<v Speaker 4>going forward. But you heard Dimiko talk about it as well.

1299
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:16.519
<v Speaker 4>You don't want the Texans playing against the Texans while

1300
01:04:16.559 --> 01:04:19.360
<v Speaker 4>trying to play against the Vikings, and that's what they were.

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01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:23.039
<v Speaker 4>Because the pre snap penalties were the ones that definitely

1302
01:04:23.239 --> 01:04:25.639
<v Speaker 4>get most of the notoriety in terms of what he's

1303
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:27.119
<v Speaker 4>talking about, and a lot of the people want to

1304
01:04:27.159 --> 01:04:31.119
<v Speaker 4>put that blame on Laramie Tunsel and on Titus Howard.

1305
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:34.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean so much to the point that Titus Howard said, Hey, Twitter,

1306
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:36.480
<v Speaker 4>I don't need you anymore. I'm deactivating my account. I

1307
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:38.800
<v Speaker 4>just don't even need to worry about it anymore. But

1308
01:04:39.239 --> 01:04:41.920
<v Speaker 4>in terms of the pre snap penalties, especially on the

1309
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:45.199
<v Speaker 4>offensive side of the ball, Tamika Ryans talked about hammering

1310
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:46.599
<v Speaker 4>down on set issues.

1311
01:04:47.039 --> 01:04:48.800
<v Speaker 5>The pre snap definitely has been addressed.

1312
01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:52.559
<v Speaker 7>Again. We spend time on that, talked about it, we

1313
01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:55.960
<v Speaker 7>addressed it, and well we see on Sunday that has

1314
01:04:56.000 --> 01:04:58.280
<v Speaker 7>been addressed and we'll handle our handle it really way.

1315
01:04:58.360 --> 01:05:01.440
<v Speaker 7>Offensive line had a great day of work today. Everybody's

1316
01:05:01.519 --> 01:05:05.360
<v Speaker 7>dowt in. Everybody understands who we are what we're about

1317
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:07.440
<v Speaker 7>and what is going to take for us to get

1318
01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:09.039
<v Speaker 7>back on track, and that's what we're.

1319
01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:10.920
<v Speaker 4>Focused on, all right. A couple of things right there

1320
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:13.280
<v Speaker 4>from what Demiko just talked about. I mean, yes, I mean,

1321
01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:16.559
<v Speaker 4>you know, you've got Laramie Tunzell, who I get it

1322
01:05:16.679 --> 01:05:19.159
<v Speaker 4>too as well. Tunsill kind of brings some of this

1323
01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:22.320
<v Speaker 4>on himself of I mean, you know, coming into the

1324
01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:25.480
<v Speaker 4>league where he dropped in the draft because of that

1325
01:05:25.599 --> 01:05:29.159
<v Speaker 4>video that surfaced, but also too as well. I mean

1326
01:05:29.280 --> 01:05:31.519
<v Speaker 4>I think that he's kind of thought of as a

1327
01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:34.760
<v Speaker 4>guy that he could do a little bit more in

1328
01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:38.159
<v Speaker 4>terms of his career. And I think that fans whenever

1329
01:05:38.239 --> 01:05:40.880
<v Speaker 4>things like this happen, they point to those things. Well,

1330
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:43.679
<v Speaker 4>maybe if you're in training camp on the field, some

1331
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:45.679
<v Speaker 4>of these things are not an issue for you right now.

1332
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 4>And maybe if you're putting in the work that way

1333
01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:49.960
<v Speaker 4>and you're practicing during the week and all of these

1334
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:53.079
<v Speaker 4>different types of things that go into what we think

1335
01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.320
<v Speaker 4>is a winning formula for a player to you know,

1336
01:05:56.400 --> 01:05:59.000
<v Speaker 4>be able to perform the way that we hope they can,

1337
01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:01.559
<v Speaker 4>especially when they're making the type of money that Tunsil

1338
01:06:01.679 --> 01:06:04.119
<v Speaker 4>is on Sundays and yeah, when he does have the

1339
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:06.440
<v Speaker 4>false starts or he does have the illegal formation or

1340
01:06:06.480 --> 01:06:09.599
<v Speaker 4>whatever it might be, that people look at him and say, dude,

1341
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:11.599
<v Speaker 4>you've got to be better than that. Like you're supposed

1342
01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:13.039
<v Speaker 4>to be one of the best in the league. Well,

1343
01:06:13.039 --> 01:06:14.719
<v Speaker 4>then play like one of the best in the league.

1344
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:17.719
<v Speaker 4>And when you don't, we're gonna let you know that

1345
01:06:17.760 --> 01:06:19.320
<v Speaker 4>you don't. Kind of like what we're talking about with

1346
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:21.719
<v Speaker 4>the Astros, when jose Al Tuv and those guys are

1347
01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:24.800
<v Speaker 4>not hitting, then we of course circle in on them

1348
01:06:24.880 --> 01:06:27.559
<v Speaker 4>because we expect those guys to hit. It's the same

1349
01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:31.079
<v Speaker 4>deal with Larry Tunsel in that regard. But I think

1350
01:06:31.119 --> 01:06:33.079
<v Speaker 4>the final part of it is it's going to be

1351
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:36.840
<v Speaker 4>proof positive tomorrow. Are these messages being heard by the players.

1352
01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:39.920
<v Speaker 4>Are they being heard in terms of, hey, guess what,

1353
01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:42.960
<v Speaker 4>because I think that we'd even heard Dimiko say it.

1354
01:06:43.599 --> 01:06:46.639
<v Speaker 4>But you know, maybe I'm kind of paraphrasing here of

1355
01:06:46.840 --> 01:06:48.800
<v Speaker 4>what we just did to win a game could get

1356
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:51.480
<v Speaker 4>us to lose a game later on in the season.

1357
01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:55.280
<v Speaker 4>And in certain cases, I think that players and people

1358
01:06:55.440 --> 01:06:58.400
<v Speaker 4>are just willing to, you know, not willing to listen

1359
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:02.679
<v Speaker 4>to criticism when things go their way, as opposed to win,

1360
01:07:03.800 --> 01:07:07.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, things don't go their way because when you lose,

1361
01:07:07.320 --> 01:07:09.800
<v Speaker 4>then obviously you're saying, Okay, clearly we did a lot

1362
01:07:09.800 --> 01:07:11.559
<v Speaker 4>of things wrong. And if we did a lot of

1363
01:07:11.599 --> 01:07:13.400
<v Speaker 4>things wrong, then we need to be able to fix

1364
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:16.480
<v Speaker 4>those issues because otherwise we're going to be on the

1365
01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:18.119
<v Speaker 4>losing end a lot more than we're going to be

1366
01:07:18.119 --> 01:07:20.480
<v Speaker 4>on the winning end. And I think that's something that

1367
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:23.519
<v Speaker 4>will need to be looked at. Tomorrow. We'll see if

1368
01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:25.440
<v Speaker 4>Joe Mixon plays in the game. I know he practiced

1369
01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:28.559
<v Speaker 4>on a limited basis yesterday. I would think that if

1370
01:07:28.599 --> 01:07:30.679
<v Speaker 4>you practice in the game that they feel pretty good

1371
01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:34.199
<v Speaker 4>about being able to throw him out there on Sunday.

1372
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:36.039
<v Speaker 4>So I expect Joe Mixon to be able to go.

1373
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:38.559
<v Speaker 4>But it's also too as well the offensive line. I

1374
01:07:38.559 --> 01:07:40.559
<v Speaker 4>think it's a little bit of a gut check of

1375
01:07:40.599 --> 01:07:43.320
<v Speaker 4>what happened last week and now you you know, need

1376
01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:45.800
<v Speaker 4>to make sure that you're able to you know, have

1377
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:49.159
<v Speaker 4>those things you know kind of you know short up,

1378
01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:51.639
<v Speaker 4>so this week it can go a lot better for

1379
01:07:51.679 --> 01:07:54.400
<v Speaker 4>you against a team who badly needs a win.

1380
01:07:54.960 --> 01:07:56.400
<v Speaker 5>And speaking of.

1381
01:07:56.440 --> 01:08:00.920
<v Speaker 4>The Jacksonville Jaguars, will actually transition into hearing about them

1382
01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:03.760
<v Speaker 4>next because what kind of team is coming in the

1383
01:08:03.800 --> 01:08:07.039
<v Speaker 4>face of Texans tomorrow. My good buddy Ryan Hacker Green

1384
01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:09.719
<v Speaker 4>joined us from the A Team earlier this week. You'll

1385
01:08:09.719 --> 01:08:11.920
<v Speaker 4>have a chance to hear from him next right here

1386
01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:14.639
<v Speaker 4>on your home of the Astros and the Rockets Sports

1387
01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:18.800
<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety.

1388
01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Space City Saturday. On Sports Talk seven ninety Space City Saturday.

1389
01:08:25.000 --> 01:08:28.600
<v Speaker 4>A couple more segments to go here on this Saturday

1390
01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:31.640
<v Speaker 4>on your home of the Astros and the Rockets Sports

1391
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:35.239
<v Speaker 4>Talk seven ninety Dan Matthews here with you Astros in

1392
01:08:35.319 --> 01:08:39.479
<v Speaker 4>the first hour, mostly Texans. In this hour and tomorrow

1393
01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:44.159
<v Speaker 4>we are focused on the matchup happening over at NRG Stadium.

1394
01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:48.159
<v Speaker 4>The winless Jacksonville Jaguars are in town the take on

1395
01:08:48.680 --> 01:08:52.239
<v Speaker 4>the two and one Houston Texans. Both teams really looking

1396
01:08:52.279 --> 01:08:55.880
<v Speaker 4>for a win this week. The Jags, as previously laid out,

1397
01:08:56.079 --> 01:08:59.640
<v Speaker 4>really looking for one this week. And earlier this week

1398
01:08:59.680 --> 01:09:01.720
<v Speaker 4>on the A Team, we had a chance to catch

1399
01:09:01.800 --> 01:09:04.439
<v Speaker 4>up with my good buddy, Ryan Hacker Green from ten

1400
01:09:04.520 --> 01:09:08.680
<v Speaker 4>ten XL there in Jacksonville. The conversation got started with

1401
01:09:09.039 --> 01:09:12.880
<v Speaker 4>what does the number three h five mean to the Jags?

1402
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:15.560
<v Speaker 8>Three hundred and five is the number of days it's

1403
01:09:15.600 --> 01:09:18.760
<v Speaker 8>been since Trevor Lawrence won a football game as the starter.

1404
01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:21.840
<v Speaker 9>Ironically enough, it was in Houston last season.

1405
01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:27.640
<v Speaker 10>Trevor Lawrence eight starts, eight losses since that day, including

1406
01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:30.600
<v Speaker 10>all three this season. Our listeners here in Houston know

1407
01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:33.760
<v Speaker 10>that I once thought he was going to be very good.

1408
01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:36.479
<v Speaker 10>I gave him all the benefit of the doubt for

1409
01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:38.960
<v Speaker 10>having to be the quarterback during the Urban Meyer era

1410
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:40.840
<v Speaker 10>and everything that went along with that team had no

1411
01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:43.840
<v Speaker 10>chance to win because they were led by someone who's

1412
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:47.720
<v Speaker 10>not capable of coaching an NFL football team. But it's

1413
01:09:47.760 --> 01:09:50.319
<v Speaker 10>been very easy for me to say, no, it's on

1414
01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:53.199
<v Speaker 10>Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence is not a good NFL quarterback.

1415
01:09:53.479 --> 01:09:56.960
<v Speaker 10>Proved otherwise. Trevor, what have you seen over those last

1416
01:09:57.000 --> 01:10:00.520
<v Speaker 10>eight games these several seasons with Doug Peterson? Are things

1417
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:03.720
<v Speaker 10>where they are with Trevor and the offense and the team?

1418
01:10:04.399 --> 01:10:04.640
<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

1419
01:10:04.640 --> 01:10:07.279
<v Speaker 8>Look, I think that's fair. And that's what the Jaguars earned.

1420
01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:09.159
<v Speaker 8>On Monday night when they went out and fled out,

1421
01:10:09.159 --> 01:10:11.079
<v Speaker 8>embarrassed themselves on national TV.

1422
01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:13.840
<v Speaker 9>I mean that was a disgraceful performance.

1423
01:10:13.880 --> 01:10:16.640
<v Speaker 8>And believe me, all our shows on ten ten xcel

1424
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:18.640
<v Speaker 8>all week long, I had to stay up to do

1425
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:21.079
<v Speaker 8>a twelve thirty to two thirty in the morning postgame

1426
01:10:21.159 --> 01:10:24.479
<v Speaker 8>show after that nonsense, So I was pretty fired up,

1427
01:10:24.840 --> 01:10:25.880
<v Speaker 8>as you can imagine.

1428
01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:28.199
<v Speaker 9>Why hasn't it worked out? Well, There's a.

1429
01:10:28.079 --> 01:10:30.680
<v Speaker 8>Lot of reasons, and I'll try to be brief. The

1430
01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:34.600
<v Speaker 8>offensive line hasn't been very good. They can't run the ball,

1431
01:10:34.720 --> 01:10:37.279
<v Speaker 8>and because they can't run the ball, obviously teams don't

1432
01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:39.560
<v Speaker 8>fear the run, so they can put guys back in

1433
01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:44.720
<v Speaker 8>pass coverage. The wide receivers have been okay. Christian Kirk

1434
01:10:44.840 --> 01:10:47.560
<v Speaker 8>has been bad the first two games. He was actually

1435
01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:51.159
<v Speaker 8>all right on Monday Night football. Evan Ingram's injured. Their

1436
01:10:51.159 --> 01:10:53.560
<v Speaker 8>Pro Bowl tight end is hurt and has missed of

1437
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:56.439
<v Speaker 8>the last two games. And Trevor just quite frankly, has

1438
01:10:56.479 --> 01:10:59.159
<v Speaker 8>lost a lot of his confidence. I think when he's

1439
01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:02.319
<v Speaker 8>getting teed off on by opposing the lines, and there's

1440
01:11:02.399 --> 01:11:05.119
<v Speaker 8>some questions about the play calling with Doug Peterson and

1441
01:11:05.159 --> 01:11:08.479
<v Speaker 8>Press Taylor. It is becoming a soap oper here, guys.

1442
01:11:08.520 --> 01:11:10.319
<v Speaker 8>I mean, that's the bottom line. When he was forty

1443
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:12.960
<v Speaker 8>seven to ten, the fashion the Jaguars did on Monday Night,

1444
01:11:13.479 --> 01:11:15.960
<v Speaker 8>We're looking for answers to a lot of questions and

1445
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:17.479
<v Speaker 8>we don't have a lot of answers right now.

1446
01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:19.960
<v Speaker 10>Humor me briefly, since you brought up the additional coverage

1447
01:11:20.000 --> 01:11:21.840
<v Speaker 10>you had late that night after the game, you had

1448
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:26.079
<v Speaker 10>a former player Leon Searsly and a former coach, Dave Campbo,

1449
01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:28.960
<v Speaker 10>both in the NFL at this level with you. What

1450
01:11:29.000 --> 01:11:31.199
<v Speaker 10>were their thoughts on what they saw that night and

1451
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:33.640
<v Speaker 10>in general for this one and three football team.

1452
01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:36.439
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Leon, I think he used the term disgraceful. It

1453
01:11:36.479 --> 01:11:39.119
<v Speaker 8>was an embarrassment. I mean, all the verbids you would imagine.

1454
01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:41.920
<v Speaker 8>Coach Campo tries to be a little more stipil than

1455
01:11:42.039 --> 01:11:43.920
<v Speaker 8>Leon and I were, but at one in the morning

1456
01:11:43.960 --> 01:11:45.840
<v Speaker 8>we kind of teed off, so we really didn't care.

1457
01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:46.880
<v Speaker 5>But coach just.

1458
01:11:46.800 --> 01:11:48.960
<v Speaker 8>Said, look, it looks like a team that's lost, a

1459
01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:52.960
<v Speaker 8>team that has no direction. And there are questions about

1460
01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:56.079
<v Speaker 8>Doug Peterson. Now, I mean, the bottom line is they've

1461
01:11:56.119 --> 01:11:59.600
<v Speaker 8>lost what eight out of nine going back to last season.

1462
01:12:00.600 --> 01:12:03.760
<v Speaker 8>Doug Peterson is an under five hundred coach. Now in

1463
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:07.760
<v Speaker 8>forty regular season games here in Jacksonville, it is not good,

1464
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:10.680
<v Speaker 8>and that's an understatement. There were expectations coming in. I

1465
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.760
<v Speaker 8>think most of us picked Houston to win the division.

1466
01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.319
<v Speaker 8>But I thought most of us also picked jacksonvie'll be

1467
01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:19.000
<v Speaker 8>second and be competitive and right now being one of

1468
01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:22.760
<v Speaker 8>the three zero to three teams. After you extended, Trevor

1469
01:12:22.840 --> 01:12:27.840
<v Speaker 8>Lawrence extended Joshua Hinz, Allen Tyson, Campbell Foyer looking got

1470
01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:29.359
<v Speaker 8>contract extensions as well.

1471
01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:31.800
<v Speaker 9>The owners fed up. The owner's angry.

1472
01:12:32.279 --> 01:12:35.920
<v Speaker 8>There's reports that the owner was the angriest shot Con

1473
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:38.920
<v Speaker 8>was the angriest he's been in his time as Jackuar

1474
01:12:38.920 --> 01:12:41.399
<v Speaker 8>owner watching what he watched on Monday night. So clearly

1475
01:12:42.000 --> 01:12:44.840
<v Speaker 8>the hot seat talk has really been ratcheted up here

1476
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:45.800
<v Speaker 8>in Jacksonville this week.

1477
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:47.039
<v Speaker 9>When it comes to Doug Peterson.

1478
01:12:47.199 --> 01:12:49.840
<v Speaker 11>We're talking to Ryan Hacker Green of ten ten XL

1479
01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:53.880
<v Speaker 11>Radio in Jacksonville, and yeah, I mean I can imagine

1480
01:12:53.960 --> 01:12:56.680
<v Speaker 11>because we kind of if you're in Houston, we went

1481
01:12:56.800 --> 01:13:01.119
<v Speaker 11>through not the same scenario because Sean Watson wanting to

1482
01:13:01.159 --> 01:13:04.680
<v Speaker 11>be out of Houston and then everything else that came

1483
01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:07.479
<v Speaker 11>from a legal standpoint that just right on the heels

1484
01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:10.319
<v Speaker 11>of that, it was unlike anything I've ever seen anywhere.

1485
01:13:10.800 --> 01:13:13.199
<v Speaker 11>But you know, when a quarterback, I don't want to

1486
01:13:13.199 --> 01:13:15.039
<v Speaker 11>say lose his favor because I don't know if that's

1487
01:13:15.079 --> 01:13:18.159
<v Speaker 11>happened in Jacksonville yet, but I was talking with Wex

1488
01:13:18.199 --> 01:13:21.399
<v Speaker 11>about this just earlier this week. He was the latest

1489
01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:24.119
<v Speaker 11>once in a generation guy at the top of the draft,

1490
01:13:24.199 --> 01:13:26.439
<v Speaker 11>and you had every reason to believe early on he

1491
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:28.000
<v Speaker 11>would be that guy.

1492
01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:30.720
<v Speaker 5>Is it worse obviously.

1493
01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:32.800
<v Speaker 11>Because of the contract they just gave and how much

1494
01:13:32.840 --> 01:13:35.159
<v Speaker 11>of that is similar to what might be going on

1495
01:13:35.199 --> 01:13:39.039
<v Speaker 11>in Dallas, where you know the alternative is to basically

1496
01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:41.159
<v Speaker 11>blow it up, so you either have to pay the

1497
01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:43.960
<v Speaker 11>guy who might not be the guy or go that route.

1498
01:13:43.960 --> 01:13:46.600
<v Speaker 5>Do you think that applies in Jacksonville?

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01:13:46.880 --> 01:13:49.039
<v Speaker 9>Well, I think a couple of things, Adam. When it

1500
01:13:49.039 --> 01:13:50.119
<v Speaker 9>comes to Trevor Lawrence.

1501
01:13:50.279 --> 01:13:53.520
<v Speaker 8>Number one, he's not as bad as he's looked the

1502
01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:55.600
<v Speaker 8>first three games. That goes back to what I said

1503
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:58.079
<v Speaker 8>about his confidence. I also think, you know, you brought

1504
01:13:58.119 --> 01:13:59.000
<v Speaker 8>up the contract.

1505
01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:01.880
<v Speaker 9>That's a lot to live up to, man, fifty five.

1506
01:14:01.720 --> 01:14:04.560
<v Speaker 8>Million dollars a year. I think he's out there pressing

1507
01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:06.640
<v Speaker 8>a little bit. You know, we've watched the all twenty

1508
01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:09.319
<v Speaker 8>two of the last three games. He's trying to do

1509
01:14:09.399 --> 01:14:11.479
<v Speaker 8>things that quite frankly, he shouldn't be doing. He's not

1510
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:14.079
<v Speaker 8>taking the eight yard sure thing, and you know the

1511
01:14:14.159 --> 01:14:16.399
<v Speaker 8>down and out on the sideline, he's trying to go

1512
01:14:16.439 --> 01:14:18.479
<v Speaker 8>to the twenty five yard you know go route.

1513
01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:19.640
<v Speaker 9>He's airmailing the ball.

1514
01:14:20.159 --> 01:14:23.760
<v Speaker 8>Brian Thomas Junior was wide open on that interception that

1515
01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:25.279
<v Speaker 8>DeMar Hamlin had Monday night.

1516
01:14:25.600 --> 01:14:27.680
<v Speaker 9>That's a terrible throw. There's no defense for that.

1517
01:14:27.760 --> 01:14:30.960
<v Speaker 8>But that's also a throw that Trevor makes ninety nine

1518
01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:33.439
<v Speaker 8>percent of the time. So I know what it looks

1519
01:14:33.479 --> 01:14:36.760
<v Speaker 8>like now is absolute garbage. And I get that Trevor

1520
01:14:36.800 --> 01:14:38.960
<v Speaker 8>is better than what he's shown the last three games.

1521
01:14:39.199 --> 01:14:42.000
<v Speaker 8>Having said that, the generational talk that to me was

1522
01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:45.079
<v Speaker 8>nonsense from the beginning. There's one generational guy and he

1523
01:14:45.159 --> 01:14:48.439
<v Speaker 8>resides in Kansas City and until somebody beats him. I

1524
01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:50.800
<v Speaker 8>don't want to talk about any other current quarterback being

1525
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:54.000
<v Speaker 8>generational because Mahomes is the only one. I still think

1526
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:57.000
<v Speaker 8>Trevor potentially could be very good, but I do think

1527
01:14:57.000 --> 01:14:59.199
<v Speaker 8>he is trying to live up to that contract. There's

1528
01:14:59.199 --> 01:15:01.920
<v Speaker 8>a confidence in issue. Particularly there's an issue with the

1529
01:15:01.920 --> 01:15:05.800
<v Speaker 8>play calling between oc Press Taylor and head coach Doug Peterson. Again,

1530
01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:09.199
<v Speaker 8>a lot more questions than we have answers, but they're

1531
01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:11.520
<v Speaker 8>saying all the right things this week. I'll be very

1532
01:15:11.560 --> 01:15:13.319
<v Speaker 8>interested to see. Look, if they're ever going to have

1533
01:15:13.359 --> 01:15:15.880
<v Speaker 8>our backs against the wall, if they're ever going to

1534
01:15:15.960 --> 01:15:19.479
<v Speaker 8>have a look yourself in the mirror moment, it'll be

1535
01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:22.640
<v Speaker 8>this Sunday in Houston after getting slat out, humiliated on

1536
01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:25.720
<v Speaker 8>national television. So I'm very curious to see how the

1537
01:15:25.760 --> 01:15:29.439
<v Speaker 8>fifty five million dollar man, Trevor Lawrence responds to that

1538
01:15:29.560 --> 01:15:31.840
<v Speaker 8>criticism this Sunday out there in Houston.

1539
01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:35.239
<v Speaker 11>Well, it leads me to the next obvious question, because

1540
01:15:35.319 --> 01:15:37.479
<v Speaker 11>while I think it's a little bit different since you

1541
01:15:37.520 --> 01:15:41.079
<v Speaker 11>guys are in the division as the Texans, so maybe

1542
01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:43.760
<v Speaker 11>that that kind of shade your answer a little bit

1543
01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:45.840
<v Speaker 11>more than it would if it was just another market

1544
01:15:45.840 --> 01:15:48.840
<v Speaker 11>that's not in the AFC South, What do you think

1545
01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:49.640
<v Speaker 11>of CJ.

1546
01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:50.319
<v Speaker 5>Stroud?

1547
01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:54.439
<v Speaker 11>And also that needs to include the first three games

1548
01:15:54.439 --> 01:15:57.680
<v Speaker 11>of this season, where I don't think he's overwhelmed anybody

1549
01:15:58.600 --> 01:16:02.560
<v Speaker 11>from an expectation into this season, especially standpoint, because we

1550
01:16:02.600 --> 01:16:04.159
<v Speaker 11>heard that kind of talk, Well, this is a guy

1551
01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:06.680
<v Speaker 11>that could be the closest thing to Mahomes. I agree

1552
01:16:06.680 --> 01:16:08.840
<v Speaker 11>with you wholeheartedly that there's only one guy like that

1553
01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:11.840
<v Speaker 11>until there isn't. But what do you think right now

1554
01:16:11.880 --> 01:16:14.439
<v Speaker 11>through three weeks at the twenty twenty four NFL season

1555
01:16:14.840 --> 01:16:15.399
<v Speaker 11>of a CJ.

1556
01:16:15.479 --> 01:16:15.880
<v Speaker 5>Stroud.

1557
01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:20.479
<v Speaker 9>I know we hate Carolina for taking Bryce. Yeah, I

1558
01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:21.439
<v Speaker 9>can tell you that much.

1559
01:16:21.479 --> 01:16:23.760
<v Speaker 8>We talk about that all the time. Carolina is on

1560
01:16:23.800 --> 01:16:25.479
<v Speaker 8>our naughty list, no question about it.

1561
01:16:25.520 --> 01:16:25.600
<v Speaker 6>Now.

1562
01:16:25.640 --> 01:16:25.880
<v Speaker 9>CJ.

1563
01:16:26.039 --> 01:16:27.920
<v Speaker 8>Child is a good player, man. I mean he came

1564
01:16:27.960 --> 01:16:29.520
<v Speaker 8>in here his rookie year. I think it was Week

1565
01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:32.399
<v Speaker 8>three last year. And aside from your two hundred and

1566
01:16:32.439 --> 01:16:35.039
<v Speaker 8>sixty pounds full back returning a kickoff for a touchdown,

1567
01:16:35.039 --> 01:16:38.600
<v Speaker 8>which was interesting, Shroud had a great game in beating Jacksonville,

1568
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:42.119
<v Speaker 8>and look, Trevor repaid the favor out there in Houston

1569
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:44.479
<v Speaker 8>when the field goal hit the crossbar last year. Obviously,

1570
01:16:44.520 --> 01:16:47.239
<v Speaker 8>that was Trevor's last win as the starting quarterback of

1571
01:16:47.279 --> 01:16:50.079
<v Speaker 8>the Jaguars. But I think this CJ. Stroud Trevor Lawrence

1572
01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:53.000
<v Speaker 8>rivalry could be a good one for years to come. Now,

1573
01:16:53.079 --> 01:16:56.000
<v Speaker 8>what Houston has done is they went out and they

1574
01:16:56.039 --> 01:16:58.600
<v Speaker 8>got a Stefan Das, they went out and they got.

1575
01:16:58.399 --> 01:17:01.960
<v Speaker 9>A Joe Mixon. Jacksonville got Christian Kirk.

1576
01:17:02.119 --> 01:17:06.840
<v Speaker 8>Okay, that's all right, Gabe Davis, Okay, he's not Stefan Diggs.

1577
01:17:07.119 --> 01:17:10.680
<v Speaker 8>I do think though, Brian Thomas Junior is a guy

1578
01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:12.680
<v Speaker 8>that not a lot of people were talking about because

1579
01:17:12.720 --> 01:17:15.520
<v Speaker 8>the Jaguars zero and three, he and Malikue Neighbors are

1580
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:17.560
<v Speaker 8>the only two rookie wide receivers. I believe to have

1581
01:17:17.600 --> 01:17:20.399
<v Speaker 8>at least forty five yards receiving in each of the

1582
01:17:20.439 --> 01:17:22.920
<v Speaker 8>first three games. Brian Thomas Junior is going to be

1583
01:17:22.960 --> 01:17:25.760
<v Speaker 8>a stud and I think a year, probably next year

1584
01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:28.520
<v Speaker 8>at the latest, he will be quote unquote wide receiver

1585
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:31.840
<v Speaker 8>one here in Jacksonville. Gabe Davis will be kind of

1586
01:17:32.119 --> 01:17:33.960
<v Speaker 8>the second guy, and I'm not sure how much longer

1587
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:36.399
<v Speaker 8>Kirk's going to be here following this season, But you

1588
01:17:36.479 --> 01:17:39.199
<v Speaker 8>need the guy, right c J. Strout has Nico Collins

1589
01:17:39.239 --> 01:17:42.159
<v Speaker 8>and now he has Stefon Diggs. Trevor needs that guy,

1590
01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:44.920
<v Speaker 8>and I think Jacksonville has finally got him that guy

1591
01:17:45.279 --> 01:17:46.680
<v Speaker 8>with Brian Thomas Junior.

1592
01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:50.159
<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Ryan, to a lesser degree. I think people here,

1593
01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 10>myself included, weren't real excited about how Jacksonville manipulated the

1594
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:57.399
<v Speaker 10>twenty twenty four draft to get assets and then also

1595
01:17:57.439 --> 01:17:59.079
<v Speaker 10>be able to draft Brian Thomas Junior.

1596
01:17:59.119 --> 01:17:59.840
<v Speaker 5>I totally agree.

1597
01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.680
<v Speaker 10>I think he may be a wide receiver one sooner

1598
01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:05.159
<v Speaker 10>than that, just because of the competition at the position.

1599
01:18:05.199 --> 01:18:07.640
<v Speaker 10>I just think he is a bigger, better talent than that.

1600
01:18:07.920 --> 01:18:10.199
<v Speaker 10>Just real briefly here about a minute on the other

1601
01:18:10.239 --> 01:18:12.359
<v Speaker 10>side of the football, because as much as Trevor Lawrence

1602
01:18:12.359 --> 01:18:14.880
<v Speaker 10>and the offense clearly took a while to get anything

1603
01:18:14.920 --> 01:18:17.640
<v Speaker 10>going against Buffalo, they also were giving up touchdowns every

1604
01:18:17.640 --> 01:18:21.319
<v Speaker 10>single time the Bills had the football their opponents. And

1605
01:18:21.359 --> 01:18:23.760
<v Speaker 10>that's a Deshaun Watson led team and a two lead

1606
01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:26.399
<v Speaker 10>team and now Josh Allen led team. Are there season

1607
01:18:26.479 --> 01:18:29.479
<v Speaker 10>statistics a little skewed because of what Allen did? Is

1608
01:18:29.479 --> 01:18:31.279
<v Speaker 10>this a team that you can throw the ball against

1609
01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:34.840
<v Speaker 10>with relative ease? Which is kind of what the numbers suggests.

1610
01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:38.640
<v Speaker 8>I mean, they held a healthy Miami team in Week.

1611
01:18:38.520 --> 01:18:40.399
<v Speaker 9>One to twenty points in Miami.

1612
01:18:40.840 --> 01:18:45.560
<v Speaker 8>The Cleveland only scored one touchdown on them in eighteen points.

1613
01:18:46.119 --> 01:18:47.279
<v Speaker 9>The rest were field goals.

1614
01:18:47.520 --> 01:18:51.399
<v Speaker 8>I mean, the defense was defense up until Monday nine,

1615
01:18:51.439 --> 01:18:53.159
<v Speaker 8>and Monday night was a flipping disaster.

1616
01:18:53.279 --> 01:18:54.039
<v Speaker 9>That again a.

1617
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:56.479
<v Speaker 8>Lot more questions than answers, because we thought the defense

1618
01:18:56.600 --> 01:18:59.119
<v Speaker 8>was pretty good the first two games. They had lost

1619
01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:02.439
<v Speaker 8>those games because of the ineptitude of the offense obviously

1620
01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:04.479
<v Speaker 8>that was completely out the door on Monday with what

1621
01:19:04.560 --> 01:19:05.439
<v Speaker 8>Josh Allen did.

1622
01:19:05.720 --> 01:19:07.520
<v Speaker 9>And the defense has some injury problems.

1623
01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:10.359
<v Speaker 8>Tyson Campbell has been out for Lucan's going to miss

1624
01:19:10.399 --> 01:19:13.760
<v Speaker 8>this game potentially Devin Lloyd maybe in jeopardy because he

1625
01:19:13.840 --> 01:19:16.600
<v Speaker 8>missed practice today with a knee. So injuries are starting

1626
01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:19.199
<v Speaker 8>to pile up. But no, I mean the defense has

1627
01:19:19.239 --> 01:19:21.680
<v Speaker 8>been better than the offense. I do think it is

1628
01:19:21.720 --> 01:19:25.640
<v Speaker 8>skewed because of the Buffalo game, because again Miami and Cleveland,

1629
01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:28.319
<v Speaker 8>the defense performed a lot better in those two contests.

1630
01:19:28.680 --> 01:19:30.880
<v Speaker 5>Great stuff, Ryan, We really appreciate the time.

1631
01:19:30.960 --> 01:19:33.199
<v Speaker 10>I personally owe you one and I'll let you know

1632
01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:36.199
<v Speaker 10>on that here shortly, but we really appreciate the time

1633
01:19:36.279 --> 01:19:38.159
<v Speaker 10>joining us here. It's really good stuff you have there,

1634
01:19:38.479 --> 01:19:41.199
<v Speaker 10>both on the air as you mentioned after dark and

1635
01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:44.399
<v Speaker 10>even covering a coach Napier's team, which has also been

1636
01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:46.520
<v Speaker 10>kind of an interesting way to do things. But we

1637
01:19:46.560 --> 01:19:48.399
<v Speaker 10>certainly appreciate you joining us this afternoon.

1638
01:19:49.399 --> 01:19:51.039
<v Speaker 9>Hey fellaws, anytime, Take.

1639
01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:53.840
<v Speaker 4>Care all right, Great stuff there from a hacker. Always

1640
01:19:54.039 --> 01:19:55.840
<v Speaker 4>awesome to be able to catch up with him. If

1641
01:19:55.840 --> 01:20:00.039
<v Speaker 4>you missed any of that, download our iHeartRadio app and

1642
01:20:00.079 --> 01:20:02.399
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1643
01:20:02.439 --> 01:20:06.479
<v Speaker 4>content right there at the convenience of your device. All right,

1644
01:20:06.520 --> 01:20:09.840
<v Speaker 4>coming out next a new segment here on Space City Saturday.

1645
01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:14.079
<v Speaker 4>That'll be here during a football season. It's me hearing voices,

1646
01:20:14.319 --> 01:20:17.000
<v Speaker 4>but I'm not crazy. Well, isn't that something a crazy

1647
01:20:17.039 --> 01:20:20.159
<v Speaker 4>person would say? Well, it'll be less crazy. That's next.

1648
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:22.159
<v Speaker 4>I'm Dan Matthews here on your home of the Astros

1649
01:20:22.159 --> 01:20:24.319
<v Speaker 4>and the Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>We now return to Space City Saturday, Sports Talk seven ninety.

1651
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:34.399
<v Speaker 4>Dan Matthews back here on your home of the Astros

1652
01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:37.279
<v Speaker 4>in the Rockets Sports Talk seven ninety one. Final segment

1653
01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:40.319
<v Speaker 4>to go here on Space City Saturday. Before we get

1654
01:20:40.359 --> 01:20:43.119
<v Speaker 4>into I hear voices, I need to give you a

1655
01:20:43.159 --> 01:20:46.359
<v Speaker 4>programming note. So, with the Texas and Mississippi State game

1656
01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:49.119
<v Speaker 4>coming up a little bit later on here on your

1657
01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:52.279
<v Speaker 4>home of the Longhorns in Houston, Sports Talk seven ninety,

1658
01:20:52.359 --> 01:20:55.800
<v Speaker 4>the Astros and Guardians going to be over on News

1659
01:20:55.920 --> 01:20:59.760
<v Speaker 4>Radio seven forty KTRH. I will be there for Astros

1660
01:20:59.800 --> 01:21:03.319
<v Speaker 4>on at four o'clock. Robert Ford, Steve Sparks on the

1661
01:21:03.319 --> 01:21:06.720
<v Speaker 4>call again over there on News Radio seven forty KRH

1662
01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:09.880
<v Speaker 4>and then after the game stick around with me as

1663
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<v Speaker 4>we will have the tenth inning show, so we will

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01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:15.359
<v Speaker 4>have all of that coming your way again. Four o'clock

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01:21:15.640 --> 01:21:18.840
<v Speaker 4>is Astros on deck five to ten is the first

1666
01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:22.720
<v Speaker 4>pitch from there at Progressive Field. It'll be Justin Verlander

1667
01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:27.039
<v Speaker 4>against Ben Lively for Cleveland. And if the Astros win today,

1668
01:21:27.159 --> 01:21:30.640
<v Speaker 4>they not only clinched this series, but they also win

1669
01:21:30.720 --> 01:21:34.159
<v Speaker 4>the season series over the Cleveland Guardians. So maybe that's

1670
01:21:34.159 --> 01:21:36.760
<v Speaker 4>something that come into play if they are able to

1671
01:21:36.800 --> 01:21:40.079
<v Speaker 4>get past the Detroit Tigers or more than likely the

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01:21:40.239 --> 01:21:43.880
<v Speaker 4>Kansas City Royals in the wildcard round that will be

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01:21:43.920 --> 01:21:47.760
<v Speaker 4>coming up starting on Tuesday. All right, without further ado,

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01:21:47.840 --> 01:21:49.560
<v Speaker 4>I teased it last segment, let's do.

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01:21:49.520 --> 01:21:50.159
<v Speaker 5>It right now.

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01:21:50.399 --> 01:21:53.920
<v Speaker 4>As again, I'm not crazy because I het your voices,

1677
01:21:55.399 --> 01:21:58.960
<v Speaker 4>and in this segment it is something a little bit

1678
01:21:59.000 --> 01:22:01.119
<v Speaker 4>new on the show. It's not a little bit. It

1679
01:22:01.159 --> 01:22:04.399
<v Speaker 4>is one hundred percent new on the show. As we

1680
01:22:04.520 --> 01:22:07.520
<v Speaker 4>usually hear about this during the off season, that's talking

1681
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:11.720
<v Speaker 4>season in football. Well in this case, talking season extends

1682
01:22:11.760 --> 01:22:16.640
<v Speaker 4>into the season. And for this edition of I Hear Voices,

1683
01:22:17.000 --> 01:22:20.479
<v Speaker 4>we go for one example in the NFL and two

1684
01:22:20.560 --> 01:22:24.479
<v Speaker 4>examples on the college ranks and in the NFL. We

1685
01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:27.840
<v Speaker 4>start with the Las Vegas Rager Raiders and their head

1686
01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:32.720
<v Speaker 4>coach Antonio Pierce. So, last week, the Raiders faced a

1687
01:22:32.800 --> 01:22:35.720
<v Speaker 4>Carolina Panthers team that had made a change at quarterback.

1688
01:22:35.760 --> 01:22:39.680
<v Speaker 4>They go from Bryce Young to Andy Dalton, and Andy Dalton,

1689
01:22:39.760 --> 01:22:42.960
<v Speaker 4>the former Katie product, comes in and helps the Carolina

1690
01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:44.119
<v Speaker 4>Panthers win the game.

1691
01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:45.239
<v Speaker 5>That's not the story here.

1692
01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:49.079
<v Speaker 4>It is after the game Antonio Pierce calling out some

1693
01:22:49.159 --> 01:22:52.920
<v Speaker 4>of his players for saying, yeah, you guys were being

1694
01:22:52.960 --> 01:22:55.239
<v Speaker 4>independent contractors out there as the.

1695
01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:57.920
<v Speaker 9>Game went on. I don't think it was.

1696
01:22:58.840 --> 01:23:01.960
<v Speaker 7>I think that jeffisonon that make business decisions and we'll

1697
01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:03.520
<v Speaker 7>make business decisions going forward as well.

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01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:05.880
<v Speaker 4>Now, the reason I bring this up is Pierce, just

1699
01:23:05.920 --> 01:23:08.720
<v Speaker 4>like Demiko Ryans, a former player, and not only a

1700
01:23:08.760 --> 01:23:12.800
<v Speaker 4>former player, a former linebacker in the league. And his

1701
01:23:12.880 --> 01:23:15.199
<v Speaker 4>style at least, you know, I'm not around Pierce on

1702
01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:17.600
<v Speaker 4>a daily basis, but at least from what I can

1703
01:23:17.640 --> 01:23:20.399
<v Speaker 4>see from a thousand foot view, does seem like it

1704
01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:22.079
<v Speaker 4>is a little bit more in your face.

1705
01:23:22.119 --> 01:23:22.520
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure.

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01:23:22.560 --> 01:23:25.319
<v Speaker 4>Probably he raises his voice a little bit more at

1707
01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:27.439
<v Speaker 4>his players than Demiko seems to do.

1708
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:28.640
<v Speaker 5>Over on Kirby.

1709
01:23:28.960 --> 01:23:30.920
<v Speaker 4>But in this case, right here, the reason why I

1710
01:23:30.960 --> 01:23:33.680
<v Speaker 4>bring this up is because, just like Tomiko, Pierce is

1711
01:23:33.720 --> 01:23:37.000
<v Speaker 4>a former player. Now again the similarities right there. Like

1712
01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:39.119
<v Speaker 4>I say with Dimiko and I talked about this a

1713
01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:41.159
<v Speaker 4>little bit earlier on. I don't think he is a

1714
01:23:41.279 --> 01:23:43.520
<v Speaker 4>ra ra in your face, yell at you type of guy.

1715
01:23:43.640 --> 01:23:45.680
<v Speaker 4>But I think if he does see somebody that's doing

1716
01:23:45.680 --> 01:23:48.640
<v Speaker 4>something wrong, pull on the side, and maybe if there

1717
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:50.520
<v Speaker 4>is a little bit of back talk to him, his

1718
01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:53.119
<v Speaker 4>response is, well, I played for this amount of years

1719
01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:54.840
<v Speaker 4>in the NFL, so I think I kind of know

1720
01:23:54.880 --> 01:23:57.039
<v Speaker 4>what I'm talking about when I bring something like this

1721
01:23:57.239 --> 01:23:59.720
<v Speaker 4>up to you and Pierce doing the same thing right there.

1722
01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:03.199
<v Speaker 4>Antonio Pierce is a Super Bowl winner as a player.

1723
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.199
<v Speaker 4>He is now a new head coach. But also though too,

1724
01:24:06.239 --> 01:24:08.319
<v Speaker 4>I think he's taking some of those leadership tactics that

1725
01:24:08.359 --> 01:24:10.800
<v Speaker 4>he used when he was a player and applying him here.

1726
01:24:11.039 --> 01:24:13.279
<v Speaker 5>And usually former players whenever.

1727
01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.600
<v Speaker 4>They say things like this, I'm willing to listen because

1728
01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:18.760
<v Speaker 4>if these guys knew what it takes to go out

1729
01:24:18.760 --> 01:24:22.079
<v Speaker 4>there and play every single Sunday, maybe it's a Monday night,

1730
01:24:22.119 --> 01:24:24.800
<v Speaker 4>maybe it's a Thursday night, whenever you're playing. It goes

1731
01:24:24.800 --> 01:24:27.199
<v Speaker 4>beyond that as well. It's the work in the weight room,

1732
01:24:27.319 --> 01:24:30.159
<v Speaker 4>it's the work on the practice field. It's hey, are

1733
01:24:30.159 --> 01:24:32.000
<v Speaker 4>you in the film room? Do I see you on

1734
01:24:32.039 --> 01:24:34.880
<v Speaker 4>your tablet watching film? All of those different types of things,

1735
01:24:34.880 --> 01:24:38.520
<v Speaker 4>the nutrition, it all comes together, and in this case

1736
01:24:38.600 --> 01:24:41.960
<v Speaker 4>right here, that's Antonio Pears calling out players, saying, hey,

1737
01:24:42.079 --> 01:24:44.399
<v Speaker 4>I know what success looks like in this league and

1738
01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:47.399
<v Speaker 4>what you were doing that, ain't it? So if you're

1739
01:24:47.439 --> 01:24:50.079
<v Speaker 4>going to be a member of the Las Vegas Raiders,

1740
01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:52.640
<v Speaker 4>well then I need to see you not do what

1741
01:24:52.680 --> 01:24:55.399
<v Speaker 4>you did on Sunday. And it's also too it's kind

1742
01:24:55.399 --> 01:24:58.399
<v Speaker 4>of one of those things as well that usually nowadays

1743
01:24:58.399 --> 01:25:02.000
<v Speaker 4>we seem to bristle at whenever a coach, an executive,

1744
01:25:02.159 --> 01:25:05.760
<v Speaker 4>an owner, whoever it might be, calls out effort from players.

1745
01:25:05.840 --> 01:25:07.520
<v Speaker 4>And I remembered hearing this a few years ago from

1746
01:25:07.600 --> 01:25:11.239
<v Speaker 4>Mike McCarthy, where again not a former player at least

1747
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:13.800
<v Speaker 4>the NFL level, but a guy who talked about you

1748
01:25:13.880 --> 01:25:15.920
<v Speaker 4>got to be very careful when you're calling out effort

1749
01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:18.520
<v Speaker 4>of players. But I do think that players whenever you

1750
01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:20.880
<v Speaker 4>hear things like this coming from a guy who again

1751
01:25:21.079 --> 01:25:24.079
<v Speaker 4>has the credentials that Pierce does that it is going

1752
01:25:24.159 --> 01:25:28.000
<v Speaker 4>to be at least taken in with some constructive criticism.

1753
01:25:28.039 --> 01:25:30.199
<v Speaker 4>At that point, you're willing to listen to it is

1754
01:25:30.279 --> 01:25:33.039
<v Speaker 4>kind of what I'm saying right there. And Pierce felt

1755
01:25:33.039 --> 01:25:34.760
<v Speaker 4>like that was the button that he needed to push

1756
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:38.560
<v Speaker 4>with his team. And after that effort again against a

1757
01:25:38.960 --> 01:25:43.239
<v Speaker 4>putred and low lead Carolina Panthers team that felt they

1758
01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:45.279
<v Speaker 4>were so bad that they had to move on from

1759
01:25:45.279 --> 01:25:48.039
<v Speaker 4>the top pick overall just a year ago in Bryce

1760
01:25:48.119 --> 01:25:51.000
<v Speaker 4>Young and go with Andy Dalton. That kind of shows

1761
01:25:51.039 --> 01:25:53.239
<v Speaker 4>you where Antonio Piers felt like he was pushed to

1762
01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:56.760
<v Speaker 4>and that is why he pushed that button to say, yeah,

1763
01:25:56.840 --> 01:25:59.800
<v Speaker 4>you're making business decisions out there, so guess what. This

1764
01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:01.960
<v Speaker 4>is a business right. We hear players say it all

1765
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:04.239
<v Speaker 4>the time. Well, if you're gonna treat it that way,

1766
01:26:04.359 --> 01:26:07.079
<v Speaker 4>we will too. So some of you probably won't like

1767
01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:10.920
<v Speaker 4>your playing time going forward. And Antonio Peers feeling like

1768
01:26:11.159 --> 01:26:13.239
<v Speaker 4>that was the button that he needed to push with

1769
01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:17.039
<v Speaker 4>his team. Now let's go to the sec as first.

1770
01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:20.600
<v Speaker 4>We'll start in Auburn. Auburn taking on Oklahoma today, but

1771
01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.119
<v Speaker 4>last week they lost to Arkansas and it got so

1772
01:26:24.279 --> 01:26:27.359
<v Speaker 4>bad that they had to make a quarterback change. They

1773
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:30.239
<v Speaker 4>had to go back to Peyton Thorn. And Hugh Freeze

1774
01:26:30.399 --> 01:26:32.039
<v Speaker 4>is a guy that I think kind of is in

1775
01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:36.600
<v Speaker 4>the same mold of a Dabo Sweeney, where he seemingly

1776
01:26:36.640 --> 01:26:38.600
<v Speaker 4>never gets the benefit of the doubt from the media,

1777
01:26:38.800 --> 01:26:41.920
<v Speaker 4>the opposing fans, whoever it might be, whenever they say

1778
01:26:42.039 --> 01:26:44.439
<v Speaker 4>something like this, and that usually brings out the critics

1779
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:47.159
<v Speaker 4>that will be coming after him. But in this case,

1780
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:50.600
<v Speaker 4>right here, it was Hugh Freeze throwing his quarterbacks and

1781
01:26:50.920 --> 01:26:53.920
<v Speaker 4>running back under the bus after their loss to Sam

1782
01:26:53.920 --> 01:26:55.640
<v Speaker 4>Pittman and the Arkansas Razorbacks.

1783
01:26:55.920 --> 01:26:58.880
<v Speaker 12>Unfortunately, this is what I know, and I know that

1784
01:26:58.920 --> 01:27:01.640
<v Speaker 12>there's people open, and I know that we're running the football,

1785
01:27:02.399 --> 01:27:04.760
<v Speaker 12>and we got to find a guy that won't throw

1786
01:27:04.800 --> 01:27:07.199
<v Speaker 12>it to the other team, and we got to find

1787
01:27:07.279 --> 01:27:10.439
<v Speaker 12>running backs that hold on to it. You know, that's

1788
01:27:10.479 --> 01:27:13.399
<v Speaker 12>a huge play there. I mean, we're going in to school.

1789
01:27:14.119 --> 01:27:15.840
<v Speaker 12>I don't know what was a seven nothing then or

1790
01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:19.600
<v Speaker 12>so it was seven to seven and our defense gets

1791
01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:24.319
<v Speaker 12>the stop and who knows what happens. But you know,

1792
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:26.960
<v Speaker 12>the scheme is what most everybody in the country is

1793
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:30.439
<v Speaker 12>running some sort of. But you've got to have a

1794
01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:32.039
<v Speaker 12>good play at quarterback.

1795
01:27:31.640 --> 01:27:32.199
<v Speaker 3>For sure to.

1796
01:27:33.800 --> 01:27:35.359
<v Speaker 12>At whatever system you're going to choose.

1797
01:27:35.560 --> 01:27:39.880
<v Speaker 4>Now, it wasn't only media opposing fans. It was also

1798
01:27:40.000 --> 01:27:43.079
<v Speaker 4>a former quarterback who came out against you Freeze this week.

1799
01:27:43.119 --> 01:27:46.439
<v Speaker 4>Did you see on Twitter that Bo Wallace, who was

1800
01:27:46.600 --> 01:27:48.800
<v Speaker 4>a quarterback for Freeze when he was the head coach

1801
01:27:48.840 --> 01:27:52.279
<v Speaker 4>at Ole Miss. He came out and was incredibly critical

1802
01:27:52.439 --> 01:27:55.479
<v Speaker 4>of Freeze for how he handled him when he played

1803
01:27:55.479 --> 01:27:58.119
<v Speaker 4>for him, but also to his coaching tactics. And I

1804
01:27:58.159 --> 01:28:01.560
<v Speaker 4>get that when you're a coach, not going to make

1805
01:28:01.600 --> 01:28:02.439
<v Speaker 4>everybody happy.

1806
01:28:02.560 --> 01:28:03.479
<v Speaker 5>That's just the way it is.

1807
01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:06.840
<v Speaker 4>I remember Kirby Smart had that speech at the SEC

1808
01:28:06.880 --> 01:28:09.359
<v Speaker 4>Media Days a couple of years ago talking about leadership.

1809
01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:10.119
<v Speaker 5>In one of the lines he.

1810
01:28:10.199 --> 01:28:13.359
<v Speaker 4>Said was, despite your best efforts, you will not be liked.

1811
01:28:13.520 --> 01:28:16.359
<v Speaker 4>And in this case right here, I think Freeze understands that.

1812
01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:20.479
<v Speaker 4>And could his tactfulness been a little bit better in

1813
01:28:20.600 --> 01:28:23.479
<v Speaker 4>terms of describing what happened on the field, and maybe

1814
01:28:23.520 --> 01:28:25.159
<v Speaker 4>he could have done a little bit more falling on

1815
01:28:25.199 --> 01:28:25.600
<v Speaker 4>the sword.

1816
01:28:25.800 --> 01:28:28.119
<v Speaker 5>Sure he could have. But I also want to enter

1817
01:28:28.159 --> 01:28:29.079
<v Speaker 5>this into the equation.

1818
01:28:29.359 --> 01:28:32.000
<v Speaker 4>I guess, if nothing else making my argument right here,

1819
01:28:32.159 --> 01:28:34.960
<v Speaker 4>I want to enter this into evidence, maybe he's tried

1820
01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:37.720
<v Speaker 4>to do that numerous times behind the scenes. That's the

1821
01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:39.560
<v Speaker 4>other part of this as well, is there's so many

1822
01:28:39.560 --> 01:28:42.119
<v Speaker 4>things that happened behind the scenes that we don't know about,

1823
01:28:42.520 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 4>and maybe Freeze had tried to do that with Thorn

1824
01:28:45.079 --> 01:28:48.399
<v Speaker 4>or whoever his quarterback is at Auburn or also too

1825
01:28:48.439 --> 01:28:51.439
<v Speaker 4>on the practice field. Maybe they've had fumbling issues and

1826
01:28:51.479 --> 01:28:54.880
<v Speaker 4>he said, hey, we need to work on ball security, okay, coach,

1827
01:28:55.079 --> 01:28:57.399
<v Speaker 4>all right, Well, nay, we need to work on ball security,

1828
01:28:57.479 --> 01:28:59.720
<v Speaker 4>all right, coach, Yeah, hey we will. And then you

1829
01:28:59.760 --> 01:29:02.439
<v Speaker 4>see it happened on Saturdays, and that's where Freeze says,

1830
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:05.520
<v Speaker 4>all right, that's it. Wits end has been passed, and

1831
01:29:05.600 --> 01:29:08.079
<v Speaker 4>now it's time for me to go the nuclear option

1832
01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:10.319
<v Speaker 4>in this case, and that is calling people out.

1833
01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:12.960
<v Speaker 5>So we'll see how it all works out. Again.

1834
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:16.279
<v Speaker 4>Peyton Thorn likely going to start today for Auburn against

1835
01:29:16.359 --> 01:29:20.520
<v Speaker 4>Oklahoma as the Tigers really looking for a huge bounce

1836
01:29:20.560 --> 01:29:23.399
<v Speaker 4>back win and Oklahoma making a quarterback change in their

1837
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:25.960
<v Speaker 4>own right. So we'll see how it works out for

1838
01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:29.399
<v Speaker 4>Brent Venables club as well. Now here's the chaser to

1839
01:29:29.720 --> 01:29:32.039
<v Speaker 4>that shot I gave you with Hugh Freeze it's a

1840
01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:35.359
<v Speaker 4>guy that never minces words, and in some cases we

1841
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:35.880
<v Speaker 4>like it.

1842
01:29:36.199 --> 01:29:38.520
<v Speaker 5>And in the past we did not like him for

1843
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:39.119
<v Speaker 5>doing that.

1844
01:29:39.239 --> 01:29:41.640
<v Speaker 4>But I think we can all agree now that Lane

1845
01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:45.600
<v Speaker 4>Kiffin is a changed man in terms of not only

1846
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.079
<v Speaker 4>picking and choosing his spots for when he says things,

1847
01:29:48.079 --> 01:29:50.520
<v Speaker 4>but also too how good of a coach he is

1848
01:29:50.680 --> 01:29:55.520
<v Speaker 4>as well. And Lane Kiffin talking about what you do

1849
01:29:55.720 --> 01:29:59.159
<v Speaker 4>in terms of handling quarterbacks after tough games, and in

1850
01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:02.239
<v Speaker 4>this case right here Kiffin saying, you know what, I

1851
01:30:02.319 --> 01:30:04.319
<v Speaker 4>try to take the focus off of them and put

1852
01:30:04.359 --> 01:30:04.920
<v Speaker 4>it onto me.

1853
01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:06.800
<v Speaker 13>I think it pays off, you know, when you have

1854
01:30:06.880 --> 01:30:10.600
<v Speaker 13>the relationships and the quarterbacks trust you too. You know,

1855
01:30:10.640 --> 01:30:13.159
<v Speaker 13>and can go back to Matt Crown when you through

1856
01:30:13.199 --> 01:30:16.239
<v Speaker 13>six interceptions and before I even got to the media,

1857
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:18.399
<v Speaker 13>sitting now with him telling him, you know, we got

1858
01:30:18.439 --> 01:30:20.079
<v Speaker 13>to do a better job of calling plays, I got

1859
01:30:20.119 --> 01:30:23.119
<v Speaker 13>to coach better, and don't worry, we got your back.

1860
01:30:23.319 --> 01:30:24.920
<v Speaker 13>And so I think that goes a long ways and

1861
01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:28.000
<v Speaker 13>goes a long ways with kids in recruiting, you know,

1862
01:30:28.000 --> 01:30:29.720
<v Speaker 13>of knowing what they're going to get when they get

1863
01:30:29.760 --> 01:30:33.239
<v Speaker 13>here from a relationship and that they can trust us

1864
01:30:34.439 --> 01:30:35.319
<v Speaker 13>to have their back.

1865
01:30:35.319 --> 01:30:37.560
<v Speaker 4>All right, could that I've been a shot at freeze

1866
01:30:37.800 --> 01:30:41.880
<v Speaker 4>maybe who knows. But Kiffin right there talking about, Hey,

1867
01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:44.479
<v Speaker 4>if a quarterback has a bad day, then I'm going

1868
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:46.600
<v Speaker 4>to take the blame. I'm not going to allow them

1869
01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:49.479
<v Speaker 4>to take it. And you appreciate that for sure, but

1870
01:30:49.760 --> 01:30:53.039
<v Speaker 4>also too as well. Again, it's every coach has their

1871
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<v Speaker 4>style and every coach has their ability to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to either say, hey, I can call these guys out

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<v Speaker 4>because let me actually take it to a more local example.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember last year we had a chance to talk

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<v Speaker 4>with Ima Udoka during one of his weekly visits on

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<v Speaker 4>The Matt Thomas Show with Ross, and one of the

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<v Speaker 4>things he was asked about was calling out players, and

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<v Speaker 4>he said, you know what I actually give you, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>The mild version of what I say to them, or

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<v Speaker 4>the call out to you is a lot more mild

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<v Speaker 4>than the way I called them out in private. And

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<v Speaker 4>I know that a lot of people prefer if you're

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<v Speaker 4>going to do the call out, do it in private.

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<v Speaker 4>But for Kiffin right there, I mean, again, let's talk

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<v Speaker 4>about the guy who has completely rehabilitated his career.

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<v Speaker 5>At first, he was thought of as being a daddy's boy.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, You've got this job because of who your dad is,

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<v Speaker 4>Monti Kiffin, not because of the coach you are. And

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<v Speaker 4>soon enough after you went to Alabama and Nick Saban said, no,

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<v Speaker 4>actually he's a really good coach.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what people started to believe in him.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he kind of earned his dudes all over again,

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<v Speaker 4>went to FAU and now is at Ole Miss
