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Speaker 1: Hello, my friends are welcome to truth Bomb, the quickfire

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quiz show where I test the best the indie media

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has to offer an AI's official narrative of the truth

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Bomb or tooth thrown in. I have convinced some of

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the best indie researchers, journalists and hosts on the world

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wide Web to compete against each other in a quid

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show which will shake the day foundations of mankind. AI

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sets the official narrative, but there will be plenty of

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occasions for each contestants in the truth Bomb to set

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the record straight and for a chance to win extra points.

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The answers Let's play truth Farm excellent. First up today

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is Jay Diet Jay. It's awesome to have someone of

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your caliber on the show, your powerhouse of the independent media.

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Do you think your downfall will be destroying your wife

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publicly on truth Bomb?

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Speaker 2: That's a tough question. I'm not sure what I'm getting into,

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so I don't know that I could commit to saying

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that I'm going to destroy, but I'm definitely going to try.

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So thank you. I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: You you will get you will get extra points. You

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know there's Croup from points his bonus points his laughter points.

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All sorts of points can be awarded for all sorts

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of reasons. Some of your associates have already appeared on

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the show, some people you know, people like Ruckus. So,

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so we eat after you've beaten your wife. Do you

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intend to finish off Ruckus? Maybe too? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't know that there were like semi finals

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and championships, so yeah, maybe we can go progress in

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the rankings.

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Speaker 1: Sure, Oh you're talking about the game. Well, I was

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going to supply Diddy lotion and film it if you wanted,

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But let's keep going anyway. You're an expert in operations

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involved in predictive programming run by various nefarious intelligence agencies.

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Is this true?

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Speaker 2: I have proficiency in that domain, I think so.

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Speaker 1: So are the Simpsons really convincing people to poorly maintain

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health and safety standards at nuclear power plants?

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Speaker 2: And I think a lot of the Simpson stuff has exaggerated, So.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree, I agree. Okay, So, so

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a question for you, Jay. Everyone knows Maximus Decimus Meridius,

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command of the Armies of the North, General of the

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Felix Legions, you know, loyal servant to the true Emperor

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Marcus Aurelius, barber, husband to a murdered life. Was he

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the real brains behind Operation.

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Speaker 2: Gladio Russell Crowe?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe? Who knows?

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Speaker 2: No, the the commander under Marcus Aurelius. No, he wasn't

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involving Gladia.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's go to the real brains behind this operation. Hello, Jamie,

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how are you welcome. I'm very happy to meet you

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for the first time properly. I've I've interviewed your hubby

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once before. It was a brilliant experience. I was actually

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a little bit excited, be honest, because he's a He's

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a big wig, isn't he. How do you feel about

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living with such a you know, an important man in

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the independent media?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Well, we have a lot of fun. And this

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is really fun because I love game shows and I

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make up my own game shows too, and Jay is

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the only one who can beat me in Mario Kart.

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So I'm excited to see how it's going to go today.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, might be me at this so soo

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oh he beats me at chess, though she beats me

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at chess.

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Speaker 1: Are you talking SNS Mario kut or you talking n

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sixty four, Mario, cut, are you talking something beyond my

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time that I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: It's basically the same. It's just they add more level.

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So sixty four Mario, krt's really no different than the

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new one. It's all the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, it's true.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, you have a mind as well, Jamie, to be

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respected and a raft to be feared, especially by your husband.

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And everyone knows I love causing last in frictions between

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close confidant. So are you prepared to show this pretender

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how truth really feels when it repeatedly punches you in

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the face. Yeah, I'm ready. I could take it, okay.

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And and just on a very violent note. Then I'm

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not normally one to encourage domestic violence. But if any

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time during the show you do give Jay, anytime you

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throw anything at him you just happen to, like just

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pop in while he's doing his round, hit him with something,

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you know, anything like that, you will get two points. Yeah. Okay, excellent, Good,

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I'm glad you agree with that. If Jay does the.

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Speaker 3: Same truth bomb, then I get extra Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but a physical truth bomb. That's got to be

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a physical truth He looks behind.

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Speaker 3: Her, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Anything like that. If it causes in dream, might even

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think about increasing points, but we'll talk about that depending

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on legal quandaries later down the road. But if Jay

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does the same, of course he'll be deducted two points.

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So we we don't have any patriarchy on this show

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except for the fact that I'm in control of everything

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and I haven't out rather than any Okay, so you

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are following up. This is the first time that we've

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got a male versus a female. We've had Rachel Wilson

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taken on Rotten Jewels. Last week we had Courtney Turner

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versus Monica Perez. Do you think you're going to be

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able to represent Jamie?

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Speaker 3: I think I can make that woman.

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Speaker 2: Excellent.

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Speaker 1: Let's get on with the game then, So Jamie, this

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is a true or false round you can pick for

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modern witchcraft, magic orders, metaphysics. The arrest of Pavel Durov

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is the fall of bash a lassad or Charles Manson.

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Speaker 3: Let's pick magic orders.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, magical orders. Okay, Okay, Jamie Dyer eighteen true or

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false questions on magic order? Does I think you'll probably

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be quite good at some of this? Some of this

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is hard though, This is this is an expert quiz.

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I wouldn't know half of these, so draw foss. The

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Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn was founded in eighteen

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eighty eight.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, do you have any truth bombs?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Did I get right?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, yes, yes, Okay, let's go. You're doing well,

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You're doing well. You got one. But you can add

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a truth bomb, so you can add anything extra about.

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Speaker 3: Way they go back to antiquity. But yeah, they're modern.

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Order started in eighteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 1: So when when do you think you could probably trace

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back this sort of thing too?

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Speaker 3: Well, most of these things they get their authority from

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Plato's Atlantis and Plato to Utopia. They draw from ancient Egypt,

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they draw from Babylonian War. So you know, Hermes would

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be the character of Hermenica that is Egyptian and Greek god.

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Speaker 1: Excellent. Add the word truth bomb and I'll give you

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Speaker 3: Point truth bomb.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, extra point the brilliant. So that's one for the

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correct one for the truth bomb. Then okay. The Ordo

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oh correct, you are correct. Anything else on that.

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Speaker 2: Lovely?

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use of sex and other bodily fluids to perform ceremonies.

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and taken over by al Shacrole when he figured out

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some of the secrets of the Oto supposedly all on

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his own, and they inducted him as fast as they

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could because it involved the use of different bodily orphices

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for the working of magic.

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Speaker 1: You're going to be brilliant, untruth bomb. I'm looking forward

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to this. You've got some some big scores that made

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nice and that's a good one. No, you already said

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at the beginning. You get the truth bomb for it.

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Correct on both of the first and good truth bombs. Okay.

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founded in the nineteenth century.

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Speaker 3: False.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's false.

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Speaker 3: Correct, so that would be twenty es century Jerald Gardner

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a like a newdist.

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Speaker 1: This is the truth bomb.

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Speaker 3: Yes, truth bomb. Well, the Gardnerian version, Yeah, of started, Yeah,

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in the fifties I think, and it was just we

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joke about it because it was just his way of

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for me, Well, yeah, I did it, so it is true.

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Nineteen fifties. Yeah, as a modern pagan religion. Okay, next one,

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Speaker 3: Can you say the name one more time because I

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never heard it?

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Speaker 1: The Illuminates of Bam Bantos h A n A T

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but it could be true.

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Speaker 1: Fortunately you are wrong, it is true, but still that's goods.

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emphasized experimental magic.

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Speaker 1: The next one, The Golden Dawn required all members to

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except that membership was open to those interested in esotericism,

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if I saying it right, regardless of religion, right, yes, okay, right,

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you can throw in a truth bomb at any time,

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even if you get the and so roung to a question,

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a magical order found by Alistair Crowley for spiritual training. Okay,

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and we actually just did a live stream on this

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the Eggman. So the ur Gentium Astroum was created to

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and he is the one where we get like the

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gray alien the big heads.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a truth bomb. This all sounds like.

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Speaker 3: That was true, and here's your truth bomb. And you

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can go watch the whole episode called lo On the Eggman.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, rgent Nashroom, Okay, everybody should definitely go and

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watch Alarm Eggman straight away. Excellent. I did actually see

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that up there. Franz Barden's initiation into Hermetics is a

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key text for magical training.

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Speaker 3: True true?

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Speaker 1: Correct? Yes, yes, do you know when it was published?

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Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're close, so nineteen fifty six you were just

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if you improve, that was good. That was good. That

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was good. Okay. Next one. The Rosicruscian Order AMORC was

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Speaker 1: In nineteen fifteen? Amo RC was established in nineteen fifteen

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Speaker 3: Oh that's another group. I would say. They go back

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Rosicrucian pamphlet called unto the Grant And they actually say

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that they're the first Rosicrucian was the faral Aconnatin of Egypt.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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you grape one back. Okay. The Arcane School, founded by

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Alice Bailey, teaches about ascended masters true true, yes, correct, Okay,

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it promotes esoteric teachings on spiritual hierarchies.

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Speaker 3: Yes. Me and Courtney Turner actually have done several shows

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on the un which comes from the Lucius Trust or

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the Lucifer Trust, which was the publications that were to

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promote the idea. Yeah, these hidden masters in the Himalayas

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and to promote things like yoga and spirituality in the West.

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Speaker 1: Definitely sounds like a truth bomb. I'm going to give

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it as a truth bomb, even though you didn't say

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truth bomb. And I love what need Turner as well.

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So she was going to run off with me, but

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then she got married. What can you do there? You go? Right?

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So The Golden Dawn was dissolved in nineteen twenties and

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has no modern successes both false? Yes correct? You know

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I know it's you.

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Speaker 3: Is that considered a successor to the world.

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Speaker 1: I think you could probably say that. Yeah, I reckon

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you could say that. So have you got anything else?

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So I'll give you a Are.

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Speaker 3: You yelling at me?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: He said, there's a modern version?

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Speaker 1: Ah, they said the modern but he's not allowed to

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tell you he's your enemy. Oh my god, you competing,

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you're not doing watch it or you'll get deducted a point.

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Speaker 3: Help each other.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I can understand that. Okay, okay, next one,

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Eastern spiritual practices. I don't know what that is, boss, Yeah. Correct.

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Speaker 3: Sounds like you compassed a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well, well, can you guess like one of

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the things that it may encompass.

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Speaker 3: Meditation?

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Western esotericism, including Kabbalah and Christian mysticisms. Probably lots of

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meditation involved, but I won't give you a point for that,

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but you get correct, okay. Next one. The Rill Society

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v R I L was a twentieth century a cult

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group tied to German nationalism. True, yeah, true, go on.

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Speaker 3: Tiny Mustache mean we did a show on rock Fin

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called uh, Tiny Mustache Maan and the Dark Occault And yeah.

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like Bonner and the the uber Man meets you man

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taking over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I'm an uber men. Yeah, okay, I tell you

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what I give you for mentioning my people. No, I'm joking.

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I'm joking. But is can you still find them on

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Rock Finn? Do they still they still have the videos

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available on there? Because yeah, because I know my channel

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when I can't upload to it anymore, no one can.

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Speaker 1: No one can upload anymore. They stopped it, they put

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they rug bulled it, unfortunately, So make sure you've got

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that backed up elsewhere because I'd like to see that.

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So yeah, I'll release it on It's a good idea.

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The Rosicrustian Fellowship teaches reincarnation and karma.

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Speaker 3: Hmmm true, true, correct, Yes, in a way, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's concept central to its esoteric Christian teaching.

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Esoteric Christian and now okay, talk about more esoteric Christian Christianity.

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The Church of Satan believes in a literal supernatural Satan

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both yeah correct, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So the Church of Satan, the antelon lovey Satanist would

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be just materialist atheist basically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So elon Musk, you're saying dark Maga, Yeah, yeah,

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all the dark Margot boys I'll give you a truth

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bomb for that and for the correct for the question. Okay.

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reclaiming tradition founded by star Hawk blends wicker with feminism.

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Speaker 3: Mhm say true, sounds correct. Okay.

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Speaker 1: It emphasizes eco feminism that makes me laugh, and social

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justice in magical practices.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about cyberfeminism the other day.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, there is there is izzy Wizzy. Let's get

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black lives mattering. Okay. Next one, The Fools Society was

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primarily a women's spiritual group fall false. Yes, indeed, Now it's.

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Speaker 3: A very masculine.

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Speaker 1: Well I think yeah, it was male dominate to the

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cult group with natural sayings. I give you correct for

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that one. Okay, too left. The OTO was originally founded

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in Germany in the early twentieth century. A true, Oh good, correct?

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Speaker 2: Yes it was?

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you can you can you guess when it

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was established? Again? The rules are if you guess and

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you're too too a way you can have a two

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points nineteen eleven oh nineteen oh four okay, established by

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feodor Us okay. And last one, the builders of the

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additum ad y t U m teaches tarot and kabbala

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to its members. True, yeah, true, it's a very logically

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it's a very specific question. Is yeah, I haven't but yeah, yeah,

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I've not heard of it either. But I guess that's

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the type of thing the various people get up to. Okay,

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you're founded by all foster case, it focuses on their

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esoteric disciplines. Okay, So for an extra point to end around,

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do you have any sort of truth bombs on magical

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orders in the direction it's gone, or anything about them

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over the past century that you want to finish off

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the round with.

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Speaker 3: I guess the truth bomb about magic would be that

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it doesn't really satiate you. I mean, it doesn't in

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a practical way. It does not help you forward your

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life as much as it claims. It's kind of a

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labyrinth and basically it's a carrot on a stick. You know,

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you're like, if I could just read one more Esthoteric book,

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or just join one more order, do one more spell

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or whatever, and it's going to make your life better

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in a tangible way, it just really doesn't.

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Speaker 1: That is definitely worth a point. I completely agree. It

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does always seem to be and I've I've seen a

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lot of people go down these paths. Is always the

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hope that the one thing will of it all, the

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next step and everything will be happy ending. Excellent. That

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was a really good round. I'll be I'll be interested

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to know what your scores were like. Okay, okay, Jay,

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you are left with modern witchcraft, metaphysics, the fall of

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bash al Assad, the arrest of Pavel Durov, Charles Madison,

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whoever he is.

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Speaker 2: I guess I'll start with my stronger suit in these.

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But you're saying I can't pick the one she.

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Speaker 1: Picked, right, you can't pick magic or unfortunately, I get

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a feeling you would know.

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Speaker 2: All of the a one but metaphysics.

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Speaker 1: Oh you a dangerous man, dangerous man with a dangerous lady. Okay, Jade,

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I am looking forward to this one. I'm I'm. I

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have to admit that, when looking at some of these questions,

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fundamentally my mind, well, I should have.

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Speaker 2: Thought about this because modern day people think of metaphysics

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as like angels and demons and witches. But I was

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thinking of the medieval discipline of philosophy meta physics. So

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we'll go for either one. I don't care which one

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it pulls up.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, well, a little bit column in a little bit, colum.

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Maybe you'll get a little bit more of that later. Okay,

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So eighteen true or false questions are metaphysics. First question.

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Metaphysics is the study of the fundamental nature of reality. True, yes, correct,

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an easy one to start off, any any do you

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want to throw in a truth bomb right at the

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start about any.

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Speaker 2: Well, only truth bomb it would be to reiterate that

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modernity thinks that metaphysics says when you walk into the

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bookstore and you see the witchcraft and astrology. But in

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the discmine of philosophy, metaphysics has classically meant as you

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just defined it. There, the study of being a reality.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, Okay, Okay, I'll give you I'll give you

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a truth bomb point for the definition. There, there's a

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point for correct answer point for truth bomb. Okay. Aristotle

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taught that universals exist independently of physical objects. False.

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Speaker 2: Aristotle has the opposite position of his teacher truth bomb.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, And what was so so that was Plato's

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belief then? Correct?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Aristota believes that universes exist in the objects.

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Speaker 1: Excellent. Okay, this is going to be very, very very dangerous. Indeed, hey,

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I will say that Jamie shouldn't help out anything here.

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If I see any any help in the chat or

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struggling Jay, then I'll do that point.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure they're gonna get tougher about Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, materialism claim Oh maybe they're easy. Okay. Materialism claims

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that all reality is ultimately physical.

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Speaker 2: That is correct, true.

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Speaker 1: True, true. Materialism denies the existence of non physical entities

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like souls or abstract the.

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Speaker 2: Wait, am I am?

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Speaker 1: I you can say truth bomb, you add information, so.

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Speaker 2: I'm The incentive is for me to say truth bomb,

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no matter what, and then to get a point or.

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Speaker 1: Well, you can do that. It depends if I give

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you the truth bomb, I think it's not good. No,

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it's not good enough. I might get rats to eat

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your toes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, truth bomb. Here is that modern society, I believe

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has been engineered to prefer and to believe in a

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radical materialist worldview for the purpose of being controlled and

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socially engineered by oligarchs and technocrats.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a good truth point. I like it. I

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like it makes me feel makes me feel good inside. Okay,

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it's next one. Locke argued that personal identity depends solely

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on bodily continuity.

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Speaker 2: That's a tough one because he believed in tabula rasa,

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so bodily continuity, I'm gonna guess that his belief in

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blank slate would require that. So I'm gonna say, true.

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Speaker 1: It's false. I'm afraid. Locke emphasized psychological continuity, especially memory,

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for identity. Okay, but remember as well, I mean this

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is again countering AI's narratives. So I mean you do

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have to put your tongue in cheek in some parts

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of it, but there you go. Essence next one. Essence

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refer to the necessary properties defining a thing's nature. Essen,

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it's true. That is true, Okay. True essences are intrinsic

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qualities that make an entity what it is.

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Speaker 2: Truth bomb, go on. This is something that has been

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denied in modernity, especially postmodernity and post modern philosophy, because

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it would mean that there are traits or attributes or

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qualities that we don't socially construct or that we don't control,

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that determine who we are. In other words, we're either

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a man or a woman. So modern philosophy, magical thinking,

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post modern philosophy has to deny that to have things

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like the gender revolution.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, truth bomb, they get a point dead, that's brilliant. Okay.

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Idealism holds that reality is entirely independent of the mind.

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Speaker 2: False idealism is the position that reality is mind.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're dangerous. You're going to be dangerous in this game.

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It's true, correct? Correct? That is, that is I will

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give you, I will give you a truth form as

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well for actually defining what it is as well. Except

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that's a complicated thing to explain though simply. Dualism posits

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that the mind and body are distinct substances.

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Speaker 2: Correct. There's many forms of dualism, but that's the most

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basic usual explanation of it. Mind body from me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, excellent, Go across the next one. The problem of

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universals debates whether properties like redness exist independently. Correct.

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Speaker 2: That's the medieval debate of the nominal versus the universe.

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Speaker 1: The realists yeah in clearly yeap indeed. Indeed. This debate

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contrast realism, which affirmed universal's existence, with normalism, which denies it.

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Quight right and extro Nominalism asserts that universals exist as

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independent entities.

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Speaker 2: False nominalism asserts that they are existing in name only

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and not in any kind of ontological metaphysical status of

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being real.

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Speaker 1: Yeah very good, Okay, yeah, yeah, correct, and I'll give

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you a truth one point for the definition that is

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quite accurate. Realism in metaphysics claims that universals exist independently

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of the mind. Correct, true, yes, correct, you're right. You're right.

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Realism's posit posit. It's that properties like beauty have objective existence.

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related to the subjects, something about the people who come

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up with these ideas, anything like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I can go you know, truth bomb on

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that one too. You know, modernity is pretty much like

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the other subject that we covered in terms of gender

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and postmodernity. Reality or today's conceptions are pretty much nominalist.

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There's not many people that defend any kind of realism nowadays.

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That goes along with the materialist worldview that most of

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the time, if you're a materialist nine nine percent of

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the time, you would also believe that there are no

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real essences or universals or qualities outside of the mind

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or the human domain of social construct.

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Speaker 1: I like it. It makes me happy, people say Stu

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Flat that excellent. Okay, next one, you get a truth, Bromb.

468
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There can't argued that we can fully know things in

469
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:06,799
themselves noumena.

470
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Speaker 2: False, can't positive the strict division between the phenomena and

471
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,440
the numena, and the phenomena are the things the appearances

472
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,599
that we know, and the numena are the things in

473
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,240
themselves or the ding on zick in the German that

474
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:21,880
we cannot know.

475
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, correct, correct, I'll give the truth from point

476
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,279
because that was that was That was a brilliant explanation there.

477
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:36,839
The principle of identity states that everything is identical to itself.

478
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,319
A equals a correct.

479
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:44,119
Speaker 2: That is the classical Aristotelian one of the three Aristine laws,

480
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:45,039
the law of identity.

481
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,119
Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent, Okay, I'm just gonna accept that question. There.

482
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:58,880
Go on. Leibnitz's principle of sufficient reason claims everything happens randomly.

483
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: The PSR claims that there is some explanation for every event. Yeah.

484
00:32:07,319 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, honestly, my eyes go and cock eyed with

485
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:13,559
some of these questions when I was reading them earlier.

486
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,839
Speaker 2: That one you can tell by than the words themselves

487
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,720
what that one means.

488
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:18,039
Speaker 1: Right?

489
00:32:18,319 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, My definition right.

490
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed they do that a lot. To be honest,

491
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:29,160
some of the I questions hilarious. Spinoza's pantheism equates God

492
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with the universe.

493
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,599
Speaker 2: Correct, And Spinosa, interestingly was influenced by the truth bomb,

494
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:43,440
the atheistic Platonists that were in Byzantium, like Plethon and people.

495
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,279
A lot of people don't know this, but Spinoza's pantheism

496
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:52,799
that got him excommunicated from his synagogue influenced the actual Illuminati,

497
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,160
the Jacobins, and the French Revolution.

498
00:32:56,319 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: To die that Plethon I bet you he's a boy. Yeah.

499
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,119
It's a brilliant truth and awesome truth. I have to say,

500
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,599
one of my favorites of the shows so far. So

501
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,920
how do you feel like that? Just on a separate note,

502
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,920
how do you feel about that? Personally? Do you see

503
00:33:15,119 --> 00:33:18,200
do you see spino Do you feel that Spinosa was

504
00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:19,240
right or wrong? No?

505
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,039
Speaker 2: No, no no. As an orthodox Christian, I would disagree

506
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:27,880
with pantheism, cobbalism, any of that would be against my beliefs.

507
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,680
Would you try to understand them although I disagree with them?

508
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: Would you say that those sort of beliefs are going

509
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,000
to rise more during the technocracy, because there'sn't like a

510
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:42,039
feeling of like a simulation on a simulation being the

511
00:33:42,079 --> 00:33:43,640
background of all creation. Yeah.

512
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,559
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think a good example would be Alder Sucks,

513
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:50,079
who wrote a book called Partial Philosophy, and he argues

514
00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,519
that in the future, in the sort of the very

515
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:55,200
new world scenario that he wrote in his other books about,

516
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920
we would need to just sort of melt meld into

517
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a giant blob. So I think pantheism is very amenable

518
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:05,640
to collectivism and the boor hide mind idea.

519
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:11,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, big great blobbism. Excellent. Okay, well not excellent, but yes,

520
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:17,760
you get Thank you very much for I really really

521
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,679
appreciate your knowledge. You've done a lot of work. Free

522
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:26,760
Will versus determinism is a key metaphysical debate.

523
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, that's true. It's probably one of the most famous,

524
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,840
along with God and the soul, the existence of God,

525
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,360
these as the soul, and then free will versus terminism

526
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,119
as classic metaphysical debates.

527
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Speaker 1: Yep, excellent. Okay, here's one.

528
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:44,599
Speaker 2: By the way, truth Bond there would be that modernity.

529
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,679
For example, Bertrand Russell on the one hand, said that

530
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,880
free will is an illusion, but he also talked about

531
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,880
in his books that we need to stamp out human

532
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,320
free will. Well, why would you need to stamp something

533
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,280
out that's illusory? No, you've all Harari made very similar

534
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,679
statements that free will is an illusion. Humans don't have agency,

535
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,920
they're not beings that actually make choices. But at the

536
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,199
same time, you can upload your consciousness to the computer,

537
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,239
to the cloud, even though consciousness doesn't exist, your just matter.

538
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,559
Speaker 1: So all kinds of.

539
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: Contradictions in the propagandas for the technocracy.

540
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: Oh, definitely. Hirari has definitely got contradictions written all over him,

541
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,280
that's for sure. And he's very hairy. Underneath that there's clothes.

542
00:35:24,519 --> 00:35:32,480
Not many people know that combative compatibilism denies that free

543
00:35:32,519 --> 00:35:40,159
will can coexist with determinism.

544
00:35:40,679 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: Well, compatibilism is the position that free will and causation

545
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,400
are compatible, or that there is some kind of so

546
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:51,159
that would be false.

547
00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:57,159
Speaker 1: There is some sort of they're compatible. Correct, correct, correct, correct?

548
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,880
The tongue twist is on their minds as well, some

549
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,960
of these questions. Libertarianism in metaphysics affirms free will and

550
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,920
rejects determinism.

551
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 2: Correct. My definition, libertarian free will is the position that

552
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,360
we have agency and free choice.

553
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:20,119
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty easy one. Yet, indeed, and the last one,

554
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:29,039
the ontological argument for God's existence relies on empirical evidence. False.

555
00:36:29,119 --> 00:36:33,119
Speaker 2: The ontological argument is an a priori argument from the

556
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:37,159
definition of words themselves, such as the greatest being?

557
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: And is this someone in particular who use that prior

558
00:36:42,639 --> 00:36:46,639
and some alcagar Yeah, indeed, excellent. Okay, get a good one.

559
00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:51,159
That's a good correct and you get the truth. Okay,

560
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:55,119
finish off the round. Have you any truth bombs on

561
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,960
metaphysics in general, maybe how it relates to us nowadays? Yeah,

562
00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:01,400
a continuation of that.

563
00:37:01,679 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: Well, there's a great speaking of Huxley again. I'm reminded

564
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,599
of the great section in Brave New World where John

565
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,880
the Savage is having the discussion with the technocratic oligarch

566
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:16,000
Mustapha Mind, and he reads something in a science publication

567
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,519
that contradicts the regimes narrative about human control and technocracy,

568
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,519
and he says, this seems to suggest there might be

569
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:28,519
a transcendent realm, a god, a meaning beyond the system.

570
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,119
And Mustapha Mond says, yeah, but we're gonna suppress that,

571
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,199
and we're never going to allow that out for the people,

572
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,679
because the people don't deserve to know that stuff. They

573
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,920
don't care anyway, So it's the right of the regime

574
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:43,800
to suppress metaphysical truths and to give them what he

575
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,480
says is actually propaganda talking about science, so normy science

576
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,599
in Brave New World is described as a replacement for

577
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,559
truth and metaphysics and a kind of mind control propaganda.

578
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:02,119
Speaker 1: And he's exactly what we see on almost every single

579
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,199
social media platform. That's quite an amazing one to around

580
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:15,079
it of. Okay, good point, excellent, brilliant, Hello, how how

581
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:16,360
do you think he did?

582
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 3: I'm too good and oh Man's and I love how

583
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960
he doesn't even wait for you to say if it's

584
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,360
true or false that he just like goes right into

585
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,119
those because he I.

586
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:32,039
Speaker 2: Will say, Johnny's right that the way that the AI

587
00:38:32,159 --> 00:38:34,480
words some of the things is a little ambiguous, and

588
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:37,480
so it's a little difficult. But and some of them

589
00:38:37,519 --> 00:38:41,000
are kind of mind vendors. So but yeah, yeah, I

590
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:46,480
think around one wall of dystopia.

591
00:38:46,599 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: Jamie scored sixteen points nine truth bombs, no bonus points,

592
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,679
no corruption points, one laughter point, totally twenty six, where

593
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:01,159
Jay scored seventeen points twelve truth bombs, no bonus points,

594
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:08,320
no corruption points, no laughter points at all, totaling twenty nine. Honestly,

595
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,559
I know that the man behind the scenes is in all.

596
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,519
Speaker 3: I need to up my truth bomb game, Jamie.

597
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: If Alistair Crowley took me to the desert and bummed

598
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,239
me six hundred and sixty six times, would it explain

599
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:25,880
the chafing?

600
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? And the demons?

601
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: Yeah? Ah, I don't want to know. I don't know

602
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,960
what what no bummed demon Those are the worst. So

603
00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:40,480
what are your favorite areas of research?

604
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:45,559
Speaker 3: What we talk about is social engineering with the emphasis

605
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:48,840
on pop culture, So we talk about pop music a lot,

606
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:53,679
pop stars. Everything that we've been uh covering over the

607
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,440
years is being vindicated with crazy stuff like the Diddy

608
00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:02,679
trial and Jeffrey So it's just day after day we

609
00:40:02,679 --> 00:40:03,920
were correct all along.

610
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know that feeling. I know that feeling.

611
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,639
On the independent media nowadays, it's to be a guide

612
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:17,840
of Like, Okay, refer to the last five years of

613
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:22,280
writing and you'll you'll get what's going on. Everybody's playing

614
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,519
catch up. So do you think that Barbara Bush Bush

615
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:33,639
was actually related to Alistair Crowley, the offspring of Humpty Dumpty.

616
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 3: Well, if you believe Barbara Bush is a she which

617
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,920
there you go, rand new rabbit hole. But I've seen

618
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,920
collages of all of the first ladies, and they do

619
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:48,599
they're not looking very lady like, let's just put it

620
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:53,000
that way. But also did do magical rituals that were

621
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:55,639
like called moonchild rituals where they were supposed to be

622
00:40:56,639 --> 00:41:01,559
invoking magical babies. He did have some what is the

623
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:07,440
story Barbara Bush's mother was known to be hanging around

624
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,920
these people? I think it was Rose.

625
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,079
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Indeed in the island, in the island,

626
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:19,639
having little go into the ceremonies is actually some really interesting.

627
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,880
Is someone in one of one of the I think

628
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,760
it's Barbara Bush's even mother or father dies in a

629
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,039
car accident and the reports of it, there's different reports

630
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:34,119
in different newspapers. It's very suspicious. I'll have to look

631
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:36,440
into that and remember it. But Barbara Bush was hench.

632
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,440
She was like this, she was like she was she

633
00:41:39,519 --> 00:41:40,199
was a big girl.

634
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like go look back in the high death photos

635
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,280
of the black and white era when Barbara and or

636
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,440
George Bush senior are you know, doing official things and

637
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,239
it looks like a man in pearls.

638
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:58,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's basically it's basically white O. J. Simpson. Yes,

639
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:01,880
so anyway anyway, and.

640
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:09,559
Speaker 3: Like cheesed dout his hair. Of course Michelle Obama has

641
00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:17,719
been So it's not outside the realm of possibility in

642
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,159
the realm of what they do in magic too, because

643
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,679
her ma apid things are very.

644
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: Venerated and they always they always put these things pop

645
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:34,719
up during the periods of societal instability and changes of

646
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:40,239
eras and downfalls of hegemonies and rich and wealthy elites.

647
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:44,079
So if it did turn out that aliens used human

648
00:42:44,119 --> 00:42:48,679
cloaking devices to disguise themselves as politicians, which aliens would

649
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,920
you have preferred them to be? Would you prefer them

650
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,400
to be grays, predators, they live, cheese dip overlords, vogons

651
00:42:56,519 --> 00:42:57,239
or wookies?

652
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,039
Speaker 3: None of the above. I heard the Pleiadians are supposed

653
00:43:02,039 --> 00:43:04,400
to be the good guys that are, you know, like

654
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:06,159
attractive and love and light.

655
00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: Would you stroke a wookie?

656
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: No? Thank you? I heard are chill uh Syrians maybe,

657
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,920
but not grays, not reptilians, not man people anything like

658
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:26,599
bug or creepy colleagues. I'm not gonna like hybrid with.

659
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I put in my foot that when it comes

660
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:33,239
to all of them feet anyway.

661
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: Only remember star Trek actually is all about this idea

662
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,800
of like going throughout the universe and like banging every

663
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:42,880
type of creature.

664
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:51,280
Speaker 1: Well cooks do what cooks? Jay? What about you? Would

665
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:59,920
you make love to a sexy e walk? Yes? Yes, good.

666
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:03,079
Speaker 2: I had to form in my mind like the cut

667
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:07,000
off point, and I formed in my mind one that

668
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:07,679
made the cut.

669
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Speaker 1: So, yes, the cut. You don't no cutting with you?

670
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,599
There's no hairdressers in the second Moon of nd Or

671
00:44:18,519 --> 00:44:23,159
do you think that the CIA put bugs in trees?

672
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,400
Or is that just a plant? I thoughtry I kidnap it.

673
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,960
I had to throw it in. What made you investigating a.

674
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 2: Serious like CIA question?

675
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,199
Speaker 1: And I was, I know why? Am I gonna ask you? Now? What? What?

676
00:44:37,199 --> 00:44:41,800
What made you begin investigating programs run by intelligence agencies

677
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,119
and things that like go around that that sort of stuff.

678
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:47,000
What made you look into that sort of stuff in

679
00:44:47,039 --> 00:44:47,679
the first place?

680
00:44:48,159 --> 00:44:50,079
Speaker 2: Well, it was an indirect thing. I was in the

681
00:44:50,159 --> 00:44:52,760
movies in high school. I wanted to be, you know,

682
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involved in that kind of stuff, Hollywood acting, et cetera.

683
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,840
And then I watched Conspiracy there with Mel Gibson, and

684
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,559
I always like Mel Gibson as an actor in his films,

685
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:08,599
and I noticed they had these weird conspiracy themes in there,

686
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:12,320
like MK ultra and what is that? But it wasn't

687
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,920
until I got to college that I took some classes

688
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,480
on filmmaking and Hollywood history that introduced me to those

689
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:22,719
ideas through Alliver Stone films, and then I took other

690
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,079
classes that dealt with geopolitics and history and espionage. I

691
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:29,320
had a professor that was a kind of an old

692
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:33,159
school progressive leftist guy who was very critical of the CIA,

693
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,079
and he was always kind of recommending books on you know,

694
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:39,280
Latin American and Iran contra stuff, and so I guess

695
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,000
an undergrad I got introduced to it, saw some of

696
00:45:42,039 --> 00:45:45,159
the documentaries that I'm sure everybody's seen, like Loose Change

697
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:47,679
from Burmas back in the day two thousand and three,

698
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,400
So just kind of opened up what seemed to be

699
00:45:51,639 --> 00:45:55,039
two parallel worlds of Hollywood and then intelligence stuff that

700
00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:58,360
eventually the more I read kind of overlapped so movies.

701
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: Ironically, Loose Change was a big, big moment in I mean,

702
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,480
I had actually I would say that I would go

703
00:46:08,599 --> 00:46:11,039
back and I was on the path of least resistance.

704
00:46:11,519 --> 00:46:14,039
Before I watched Loose Change, that's how it described it.

705
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:18,039
I knew something was wrong, that native hyper normalization had broken,

706
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,800
but it wasn't until I watched Loose Change. I was like, yeah,

707
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,480
I've got I just got to consume every single bit

708
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:28,639
of news after that and just take it all in

709
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,679
and try and make sense of it, and eventually you

710
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,400
realize it's senseless. That's the point of it as well.

711
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,599
Do you think the average citizen has any clue on

712
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,239
how manipulated they are on a day to day basis?

713
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think at the most you've got

714
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,719
a little bit of an awakening to stuff that maybe

715
00:46:51,039 --> 00:46:53,719
Trump talked about like fake news. So maybe the boomer

716
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,480
Fox News audience has some conception of this idea of

717
00:46:57,519 --> 00:47:00,119
fake news, but they don't realize that even all what

718
00:47:00,159 --> 00:47:04,000
they're consuming is still fake news. Yeah no, not on

719
00:47:04,039 --> 00:47:04,800
a mascow now.

720
00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:09,519
Speaker 1: And it was the right thing to marry a potential

721
00:47:09,559 --> 00:47:10,719
wokie stroker.

722
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:15,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jamie would have to say yes now, and so yeah,

723
00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:18,000
so we're in an open relationship, but it's not open

724
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:20,360
to humans. It's only open to wookies.

725
00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: So all I get now, we're entering around called wank, twank,

726
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:31,360
honest and truthful. AI has come up with eight quotes. However,

727
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,159
I have sneakly swapped one of the words within the

728
00:47:34,199 --> 00:47:37,079
famous phrase with the word wank. I don't know if

729
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:39,360
you know what that means. I think you do. It'll

730
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,760
be our contestants job to guess the original word. If

731
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,920
you get the quote wrong, then the opportunity will be

732
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,000
handed over to your opponent.

733
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: Okay, I got a question, Yeah, question for you Brits. Okay,

734
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,760
the word wanker. Is this just a name for the

735
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,800
weenus or is it a person who is actively stroking

736
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:00,519
them in us?

737
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's someone who spends all of their time wanking

738
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:10,360
their time. I've known and you know, yeah, it's those

739
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,000
who like to tug and can't stop tugging, and their

740
00:48:14,039 --> 00:48:19,400
attitude comes out in that way comes out. That's but

741
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:22,199
anyway you can, you can gain an extra point for

742
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,800
identifying the author of the quote, because we will see

743
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,880
pictures only if you correct. Guest Lee could correctly gets

744
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,519
the missing word. You can only score points from a

745
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:36,239
truth bomb if you've answer correctly. Jay will go first,

746
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:46,760
and let's play wank. Okay, here we go. Being chased

747
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,199
by a rabid rainbow squirrels is a theme of this

748
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:57,079
wankity wank Jay, you get the first one. The greatest glory,

749
00:48:58,519 --> 00:49:02,760
glory in living life is not in never wanking, but

750
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,280
in rising every time we wank.

751
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: Is I mean I'm assuming that. I mean that's Nelson Mandela.

752
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,519
I was supposed to guess the word.

753
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's the same word to two words. It's

754
00:49:17,639 --> 00:49:20,239
the same word. It is it is. You might not

755
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,559
want to guess out first, because you can only have

756
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:27,039
a point for guessing who that is if you get right,

757
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:35,119
bless Yes, you are correct. Okay, and you get an

758
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:39,960
extra point for Nelson Mandela of course. Okay, over to you,

759
00:49:40,199 --> 00:49:43,519
Jamie for the next one. Here we go. It might

760
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:47,800
be a bit harder, might be a bit harder. Don't

761
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,679
go gentle into that good night wank wank against the

762
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:53,880
Dying of the Light.

763
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: I think it's rage rage, Yes it is.

764
00:49:59,599 --> 00:50:03,039
Speaker 1: You listen, if you get who this is, I'll give

765
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:05,480
you an extra point on top because he's a Welsh

766
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:08,159
hero and that's my homeland.

767
00:50:08,199 --> 00:50:11,599
Speaker 2: By the way, do I get a point if she

768
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:12,159
doesn't know it?

769
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: No, but he can steal it. It's not no, no, no,

770
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:26,000
it's Dylan Thomas. Yes, indeed borne down the road from

771
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,360
me in Swansea. But yes, you were right. You get

772
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,119
one point there, Jamie for rage, rage against the dying

773
00:50:32,159 --> 00:50:35,159
of the light. Okay, next one, this is over to

774
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:41,119
you then, Jay one, a very famous one. Here we go. Yi,

775
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,840
guns don't wank people. People wank people. That's true, it's true.

776
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:50,119
And some of these obviously feel like they might just

777
00:50:50,159 --> 00:50:51,000
be the word wank.

778
00:50:53,840 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 2: That is Charlton Heston and Sharlane Green is made people.

779
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,320
The word is kill.

780
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, guns don't kill people. Rappers do. I've seen it

781
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,760
on a documentary on BBC two. Indeed, his child in Heston.

782
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,960
That's two points you get there. Okay, over to you.

783
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,159
You're doing too good at these guys. You gott not

784
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,679
be doing so good at this, Jamie, over to you.

785
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:27,320
Here we go the next one. If there are extra terrestrials,

786
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:37,639
they're probably wanking us like we wank anst.

787
00:51:34,679 --> 00:51:37,199
Speaker 3: That are they watching us like we watch it?

788
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,519
Speaker 1: Yes? Yes you know who that was about to be

789
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,280
ripped apart by rabid squirrels.

790
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 3: Looks like mister Elon muk.

791
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,039
Speaker 1: Yes it is it is mister. You can't trust him

792
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:56,239
you can't trust him. Good, you're doing well. Okay, back

793
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:01,039
over to you, Jay. I'm not gonna and with being

794
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:10,599
liked or disliked. I'm concerned with being wanked to get

795
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:14,880
in the way sometimes, you know. But those squirrels don't

796
00:52:15,079 --> 00:52:19,239
look as violent towards Daffy, but they what might have

797
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,199
gone up him by the look.

798
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,039
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's it's either feared or respected.

799
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:29,559
I'm gonna say feared.

800
00:52:31,039 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: I get. I'm gonna hand it over to Jamie.

801
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:38,519
Speaker 3: Respected.

802
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well done, which is really good.

803
00:52:43,519 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: That's why I thought you can't steal the points she gets.

804
00:52:46,519 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: Definitely can and and we've already said to you it

805
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,599
is who's got the squirrel up his butt? But who

806
00:52:51,679 --> 00:52:57,559
is it? Jamie? Yeah, ex and you get two points there, brilliant.

807
00:52:57,679 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Sorryfy does not like being wanked by the squirrels.

808
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,679
Speaker 1: It looks like no, no, which is a very strange

809
00:53:07,679 --> 00:53:10,599
thing because everybody knows the squirrel wank is the best

810
00:53:10,639 --> 00:53:15,960
type of wink. This is for you, Jamie first this time,

811
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,280
because you stole that last one. This is this is

812
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:20,159
a bit of a hard one.

813
00:53:20,159 --> 00:53:21,519
Speaker 2: You can't steal I'm confused.

814
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: No, you can. You can steal, but only if you

815
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,199
get it wrong. So you got it wrong. You said

816
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:31,639
feared and it was wrong, and then okay, okay, so Jamie,

817
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:35,239
the only thing worse than a bad wank is no

818
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:46,119
wank at all, which is an accurate sentence. Up. There

819
00:53:46,159 --> 00:53:55,039
you go. This is a hard one. A feeling Jay

820
00:53:55,159 --> 00:53:59,119
might know this just by the way he's eyebrow raised.

821
00:53:59,360 --> 00:53:59,840
There you go.

822
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

823
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,559
Speaker 1: What did you say? Pizza pizza the only figure.

824
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:11,559
Speaker 2: It is true.

825
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 1: The only thing worse the bad pizzas no pizza told no,

826
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:22,039
though it's not the right one, Jay, No, the only

827
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:28,199
thing worse than a bad government is it's Thomas Hobbes

828
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,480
as a hard one. But I mean he looks a

829
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:34,039
bit worried about the Squirels as well. Okay, next one's

830
00:54:34,039 --> 00:54:42,719
for you, j. Here we go. The squills are what? Yeah,

831
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,239
I know it's getting more excessive as we go along.

832
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:55,800
I'm not a sexual wank. I'm a sensual wank. Jay. Awesome,

833
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,519
I want that on my wall, to be honest.

834
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:04,519
Speaker 2: Well, I'm a Prince fan, so I feel like I

835
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,440
should be able to figure it out. But then again,

836
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:08,599
I mean.

837
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 1: My best guess would just bee is Dave Chappelle when

838
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,280
I see Prince Now, I guess just man, No, I'm

839
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,840
going to hand it over Jamie Gorn steal it.

840
00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 3: Lover.

841
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,639
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not a sexual person that I'm a Yeah,

842
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:34,960
so he was person unfortunately. Okay, but this is for

843
00:55:35,159 --> 00:55:38,320
you to guess now, Jamie. The last one is for

844
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:43,039
you in this round. There you go. If you can't

845
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:47,599
wank them, arranged to have them wanked. The only one

846
00:55:47,639 --> 00:55:50,400
not being attacked by a squirrel, of course, is the

847
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,800
king himself.

848
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,679
Speaker 3: Can't you know this?

849
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: No, you're not supposed to get help on it is

850
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:03,199
your moment.

851
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 3: If you can't kill them, arrange No.

852
00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: Jay, go on now, if you can't beat them, arranged

853
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,039
to have them beaten. I know, I know, it, says Wanke.

854
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:24,199
And you know who that is. That's George Carlin.

855
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: Oh well as Ai George Carlin.

856
00:56:28,199 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: I know, I know. To be perfectly honest, I have

857
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,280
to tell you that I had to ask AI for

858
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,840
George Carlin about fifty times, but I got that one.

859
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:44,840
Because they they don't want to represent heroes, only villains

860
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:52,679
the way. So in Whank the Wank Round two, Jamie

861
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:58,480
scored five and Jay scored four, which I believe gives

862
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,880
Jamie a total score of thirty one and a Jay

863
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:11,079
is on thirty three. Really close, close game excellent. So

864
00:57:11,159 --> 00:57:13,800
how did you enjoy wank t went ground j Did

865
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:14,639
you like it?

866
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: It was pretty challenging. It was fun, but it was

867
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:18,280
challenging time.

868
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:24,199
Speaker 1: So the technocratic dictatorship is upon us. What are you

869
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,679
looking forward to the most? Jamie being executed on the

870
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:31,800
street by over judgmental traffic Jane, the drones, or being

871
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:37,119
sent to the cryo chambers for cheese related for crimes.

872
00:57:37,679 --> 00:57:41,119
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to becoming Goo and being served in

873
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:46,159
a fast food slop bucket.

874
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: You'd be tasty Goo, I tell you, tasty Google Jay.

875
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,199
When the robots come to take your wife with which

876
00:57:58,239 --> 00:58:01,239
sex spot will you choose to replace the schnoo shnoo

877
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:05,400
five thousand excel or a classic chrome plated magical pig

878
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,280
with marital aids stuck all over it.

879
00:58:08,159 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 2: I thought this whole time I had a sex butt

880
00:58:10,519 --> 00:58:13,559
that was I thought that's what I got. So I

881
00:58:13,639 --> 00:58:19,159
think I'll have to lodge a complaint with Elon because

882
00:58:19,199 --> 00:58:21,280
I felt I thought I was getting the sex bot

883
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,079
to begin weapon.

884
00:58:22,159 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, then send it back. This has not This

885
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,119
is not one of those chrome plated pigs with madertal

886
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:32,000
aid stuck all over it. Marital aids is a hard

887
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,039
thing for us to say in the UK because we

888
00:58:34,239 --> 00:58:37,480
just we just know dildo's and dildo is such a

889
00:58:37,519 --> 00:58:39,599
good word, I.

890
00:58:39,559 --> 00:58:43,519
Speaker 2: Thought an Ai e walked.

891
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:50,599
Speaker 1: Yes, Jay die, I'm going to ask you eighteen general

892
00:58:50,679 --> 00:58:55,360
knowledge questions generated by honest and truthful AI on your

893
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:01,840
specialist subject round medievil theology, which is another subject that

894
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:06,719
not many people would choose. No, no, no, no, that's

895
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,880
that in my book that this ain't boring, This, this

896
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:13,719
fills me. This is nipple pinchin anyway you may sense

897
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,360
outrageous AI skulldugree rich with establishment narrative, and you can

898
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,119
extra points by setting the story straight, adding a truth

899
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:25,280
bomber two along the way. Are you ready, j sure,

900
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:32,400
let's do it. Question one? Who was the early medieval

901
00:59:32,679 --> 00:59:39,159
theologian known for integrating Neoplatonism with Christian theology in his

902
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,280
work The Consolation of Philosophy?

903
00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: Boethius?

904
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: Who knows it? Jay?

905
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,039
Speaker 2: Who knows really? Famous? Texts?

906
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, no, okay, I also knew it. I

907
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,760
also to tell you now I knew it. Have you

908
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,440
got any truth bombs about Boethius, the coolest guy in No,

909
01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:02,840
that one, I don't have a truth okay, okay, okay,

910
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,079
give you the point. Here we go. We're going to

911
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:06,880
the next one. That's good. That's I'm fine with that.

912
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,400
What is the name of the theological method developed by

913
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:25,440
Peter Ablad that involved presenting opposing viewpoints to stimulate debate? Uh?

914
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:29,519
Speaker 2: The term, I don't know if it's specific to him,

915
01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,480
but it's the Elanctic method.

916
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: No, no, I was looking for question and answer A

917
01:00:36,559 --> 01:00:42,159
sick a none, Okay is what I was looking for. Okay.

918
01:00:43,079 --> 01:00:49,159
Next one, which medieval theologian wrote City of God to

919
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:59,639
defend Christianity against pagan criticisms two points directly to Jamie

920
01:00:59,639 --> 01:01:03,280
and me for ridiculing her husband in such a way.

921
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:10,239
Speaker 2: Actually got that's supposed to go this way. So the

922
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,199
answer is Saint Augustine wrote the City of God and

923
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:19,199
truth bomb. That book is a really fascinating history of

924
01:01:19,679 --> 01:01:23,159
the pagan world and in the post Christian Roman world

925
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,719
that deals with the people of God from the Old

926
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,159
Testament all the way up into the Christian Church.

927
01:01:32,159 --> 01:01:35,079
Speaker 1: That's a brilliant truth bomb. Brilliant you knew it. Yes,

928
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:40,719
it's Augustine of Hippo and excellent two points there. What

929
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:46,000
term describes the medieval belief that the bread and wine

930
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:50,239
of the Eucharist become the body and blood of Christ.

931
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:51,679
Speaker 2: Transubstantiation?

932
01:01:52,639 --> 01:01:55,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, of course everyone knows that. And then do

933
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you know what it is in French?

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Speaker 2: I do know?

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Speaker 1: Trans substasia. That's yes, that's it.

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Speaker 2: We'll just say it, say it Gayer and that's the

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front trans substance.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't do it. This's that's too hard. I

939
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can't even say in English, to be honest. So there

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you go. You get you get the point. There. Have

941
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you got need truth problems about trans substance? No, no,

942
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no one does. Who was the eleventh century Archbishop of

943
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Canterbury who wrote Why God Became Man? To explain the incarnation?

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You know this one?

945
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we just said it and some of Canterbury and it's.

946
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Speaker 1: Oh is that a truth bomb?

947
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Speaker 2: There?

948
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Speaker 1: Do you want to add in a bit that's a

949
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little bit of detailed anything else.

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Speaker 2: The title of the book is Cord Became.

951
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I'll accept. I'll give you a point for that.

952
01:02:55,119 --> 01:02:56,639
It was a bager and you're wearing a hot dog

953
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on your head, which medieval feear. Logan is known for

954
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his Summer Theologica, a comprehensive work on Christian doctrine.

955
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Speaker 2: Thomas Aquinas.

956
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're always going to get this one. No, No,

957
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any interesting facts about Thomas Aquinas, anything about his girlfriends

958
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or anything.

959
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Speaker 2: Well, he was known as the dumb Ox. He was

960
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a big old fat dude, and his master was a

961
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proponent of alchemy, although Aquinas wasn't interested in that. His

962
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master was Albert Magnus. He's the most famous Roman Catholic philosopher.

963
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Leo the thirteenth said that Thomism is the official philosopher

964
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the Roman color Church. But interestingly, the Roman Church no

965
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longer cares about Thomism.

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Speaker 1: So wow, okay, that's a good truth bumb It's like

967
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a selection of truth bombs, to be honest, it was

968
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a bit of a scat again.

969
01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:53,039
Speaker 2: This is this is Assumer right here. So the book

970
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he referenced is right here.

971
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Speaker 1: Oh no, he's okay, Well, listen, I gave John Clychek

972
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a point point in a John Kenneth gow Brave book

973
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last a couple of weeks ago, So yeah, you go

974
01:04:06,199 --> 01:04:09,360
to get an extra point for doing that right. Who

975
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was the fourteenth century English phologian who criticized the Church's

976
01:04:16,199 --> 01:04:28,599
wealth and promoted vernacular Bible translations fourteenth fourteenth century?

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Speaker 2: Well, there were a few at that time, So stay

978
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it one more time, really, question one more time.

979
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Speaker 1: Who was the fourteenth century English theologian who criticized the

980
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Church's wealth and promoted the vernacular Bible translations?

981
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Speaker 2: Wickliffe?

982
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:54,159
Speaker 1: Yes, oh John himself, take bad John Wickliffe? Indeed correct. Okay,

983
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:01,119
what is the name of the mystical text attributed to

984
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pseudo Dionysius that influenced medieval theology with its hierarchical view.

985
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 2: Of bloody hell right over there?

986
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:19,079
Speaker 1: I'm not giving you an extra point for pointing off camera.

987
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:21,760
I just like that. How can I probably believe you

988
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:24,840
could just point anything? Oh that's on that shelf over

989
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,079
there and over there, I got a shelf with everything on. Yeah,

990
01:05:28,199 --> 01:05:28,599
very nice.

991
01:05:29,199 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: How about pull out a version of it right here?

992
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: So you yeah, yeah, yeah, that's excact thing. Okay, Okay,

993
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,159
you have a point. Stop hitting me in the face

994
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:45,880
with knowledge, man, Okay, okay, good, good, good. Which theologian

995
01:05:46,679 --> 01:05:48,960
that they love this AI is really getting you on

996
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:54,039
the which theologian line defended the real presence of Christ

997
01:05:54,280 --> 01:06:00,239
in the Eucharist against Ratramnus in the ninth century. Tree.

998
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,920
If you get this, I might actually cut off one

999
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,679
of my balls. Live on truth bomb.

1000
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:15,199
Speaker 2: It's Ratramnas of Corby. I know this dispute. Can you

1001
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:16,360
reset it one more time?

1002
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: Okay? Which no, no, not even my bull's on the

1003
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line which Theologian defended the real presence of Christ in

1004
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:31,039
the Eucharist against Ratramnus in the ninth century.

1005
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: That's in the Latin West in the ninth century. And

1006
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that's that's a tough one.

1007
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just in the book behind you, over there,

1008
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,480
and in front of you, and on the side of

1009
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you and above you, all the books.

1010
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, isidor.

1011
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:54,559
Speaker 1: Oh thank God for that? No past chas, Yes, rat

1012
01:06:56,599 --> 01:06:59,280
who saved me one testicle? There?

1013
01:06:59,320 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 2: Well done?

1014
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:04,239
Speaker 1: Who but you get that's good? That's good to say

1015
01:07:04,239 --> 01:07:07,920
we've got any we got any truth bombs related to

1016
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that at all.

1017
01:07:09,599 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: That one was an obscure one, so I know that

1018
01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:14,320
subject pretty well. But that one you got me on

1019
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:15,320
that one, that was pretty good.

1020
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that okay. What is the name of Augustine's doctrine

1021
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:25,159
that humans inherit sin from Adam's.

1022
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 2: Four original sin.

1023
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an easy one, easy one, okay, And and

1024
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,599
any any any truth bombs about original sin.

1025
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Speaker 2: Well, I would say the Orthodox Church disagrees with Augustine's view,

1026
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so that the Augustinian view dominated both the Latin Roman

1027
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Catholic West and the Protestant West. But the Orthodox Church

1028
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:52,320
doesn't believe in original guilt, which is I think a

1029
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,119
key element of Augustine's view.

1030
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Speaker 1: Makes okay, do you think do you think original sin

1031
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,079
is is is a thing.

1032
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: In the Orthodox view, which is a much more temperate

1033
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:06,119
view than the august any of you. So we would

1034
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:10,239
say that Adam sin produced mortality, but we're not guilty

1035
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:10,920
for Adam sin.

1036
01:08:12,119 --> 01:08:14,679
Speaker 1: Okay. And that's what you would believe personally.

1037
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Orthodox Church's view as opposed to the

1038
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Latin Western Protestant.

1039
01:08:19,079 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: Calgary Okay, okay, okay, I give you a truth one

1040
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,479
point for that too, which twelfth century theologian was condemned

1041
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:38,520
for his rationalist approach to the trinity of Theologia Scolarium scalarium,

1042
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:42,960
which twelfth century theologian was condemned for his rationalist approach

1043
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:51,840
to the Trinity in Theologia Scolarium probably Okham no pep ablade,

1044
01:08:52,239 --> 01:08:56,600
and it was either able or Kham. Yeah, well, I

1045
01:08:56,640 --> 01:09:00,199
will accept truth bomb still if you've got any Well.

1046
01:09:00,039 --> 01:09:05,319
Speaker 2: Alkham is the father of nominalism. So you get all

1047
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:07,520
of the later stuff that we talked about in the

1048
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:11,439
first round with nominalism and modernity out of William of

1049
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,359
Barkham's medieval nominalism.

1050
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I will I will accept that as a truth.

1051
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:19,319
One point, I like a little bit of extra knowledge.

1052
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:25,079
What term describes the medieval belief that salvation depends on

1053
01:09:25,159 --> 01:09:27,840
both divine grace and human cooperation.

1054
01:09:35,119 --> 01:09:39,319
Speaker 2: Well, in the word box church, we use the word

1055
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word synergy or synergism.

1056
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: Correct, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna give it,

1057
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,479
I'm gonna stop you from getting the wrong hands. Then

1058
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,479
go into a wrong answer and just say yeah, synergism,

1059
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:59,920
that's good. Okay. Next, which fourteenth century mystic wrote Revelations

1060
01:10:00,119 --> 01:10:05,239
of Divine Love, the earliest surviving English text by a woman?

1061
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:09,239
Would you believe it? What a woman the fourteenth century

1062
01:10:09,279 --> 01:10:13,199
with a pen heretic? No wonder that In a couple

1063
01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:20,039
of centuries later, you've got Mary Chudor burning everybody control.

1064
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:29,199
What's century fourteenth fourteenth century mystic? It's either.

1065
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,560
Speaker 2: Julian of Norwich or Hildegard of Bingen.

1066
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 1: Julian, Yes, it's Julian of Norwich. It is Julian of Norwich.

1067
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,319
He must have been quite a girl back in the day.

1068
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,359
I get a feeling she might have been a strumper.

1069
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,039
But you know, don't hold me by that. Who is

1070
01:10:45,079 --> 01:10:46,399
the other lady you mentioned?

1071
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 2: The other mid famous medieval female mystic is Hildegard of Bingen.

1072
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,000
And then there's Gertrude the Great. Those are the but

1073
01:10:55,039 --> 01:10:59,239
she's German. So if you said English, did you say

1074
01:10:59,279 --> 01:10:59,960
English Norwich?

1075
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:00,279
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1076
01:11:00,319 --> 01:11:02,520
Speaker 2: English Norwich?

1077
01:11:03,279 --> 01:11:06,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, Okay, I'll give you a truth one point

1078
01:11:06,159 --> 01:11:08,439
for the extra details. Again, I like, I do like

1079
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,239
a bit of this. Who was the eleventh century theologian

1080
01:11:11,279 --> 01:11:17,760
who debated Baranga of Tours over the nature of the Eucharist?

1081
01:11:18,199 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 2: Berengar of Tours? What what century?

1082
01:11:21,079 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: Eleventh century is a Norman invasion?

1083
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,720
Speaker 2: Read it one more time.

1084
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: Who was the eleventh century theologian who debated Bahrenga of

1085
01:11:45,079 --> 01:11:55,479
Tours over the nature of the Eucharist? I can tell

1086
01:11:55,520 --> 01:12:00,239
you that again. It's a oham, no land from rank

1087
01:12:00,319 --> 01:12:05,680
of Beck. These were people who actually Jordan B. Peterson's

1088
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:12,199
relatives back then, lanky, Yeah, Jordan B. Peterson is actually

1089
01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:16,319
related to Helena de Falaise, who was the mother of

1090
01:12:16,319 --> 01:12:20,840
William the Conqueror by two different lines. Interesting which medieval

1091
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:28,640
theologian was known for his principle of Ockham's razor and painting. Yeah,

1092
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:32,399
there you go. And do you want to add anything

1093
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,119
anything more about argue? You've already given a little bit, but.

1094
01:12:35,159 --> 01:12:38,239
Speaker 2: You can don't have any extra information, so.

1095
01:12:38,399 --> 01:12:41,119
Speaker 1: You just get correct the answer. We've all got free left.

1096
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:46,359
What term refers to the medieval theological debate over whether

1097
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,399
grace is irresistible or can be rejected?

1098
01:12:56,119 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 2: I mean, Molinism is one of the terms used, Synergism, Augustinianism.

1099
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:08,600
I mean, this was kind of vague because there's a

1100
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,079
lot of terms that relate to this.

1101
01:13:10,119 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 1: Debate with AI.

1102
01:13:14,239 --> 01:13:15,079
Speaker 2: But we want to know.

1103
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:22,640
Speaker 1: Predestination. Oh, okay, I know that's evil. That was a

1104
01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,359
little of it too obvious. Okay. What is the name

1105
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:32,640
of the medieval theological school emphasized rigorous logical analysis of

1106
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:44,560
doctrine Scholasticism, Yes, yes, very good. Anything on scholasticism that

1107
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:45,479
you want to add.

1108
01:13:45,399 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 2: Well, I mean again like truth bomb here is that

1109
01:13:48,079 --> 01:13:51,479
the AI you can tell is kind of vague because

1110
01:13:52,359 --> 01:13:54,920
you could have a lot of different schools that did

1111
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,079
that within the domain of scholasticism. So Thumism did that,

1112
01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:00,880
you could have Augustinianism doing that. There's a lot of

1113
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,199
schools that do that. But I guess the broadest term

1114
01:14:04,199 --> 01:14:05,279
would be scolasticism.

1115
01:14:06,039 --> 01:14:08,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely is. Actually that's a good truth

1116
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,479
Bomber as well. I say, looking at the AI is

1117
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,920
one of the things we should be doing on this show.

1118
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,680
This is the point of it. And the last question

1119
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,960
here which thirteenth century theologian argued that the Virgin Mary

1120
01:14:22,199 --> 01:14:32,600
was conceived without original sin Bernardo Clervo, No, it was

1121
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:39,119
Dunn's Scots. I have to say though out of out

1122
01:14:39,159 --> 01:14:43,359
of that round, I would have got absolute zero. And

1123
01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,840
I think most of the people watching a homeward And

1124
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,039
to be honest, I doubted, you know when I when

1125
01:14:49,039 --> 01:14:53,279
I when I'm choosing the questions, I doubt.

1126
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: I wonder whether the people I should have specified not

1127
01:14:57,119 --> 01:15:01,279
so much Latin, I'm more of a business team Medieval

1128
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,720
I should have said busantee, medieval stuff, but I knew

1129
01:15:04,039 --> 01:15:05,359
decent amount, But yeah.

1130
01:15:05,159 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 1: That was good. This specificity is specificity. To specify and

1131
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:18,560
to become specific in these and get ready a specialist subject,

1132
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:23,079
which is really your main field of expertise, is quite

1133
01:15:23,119 --> 01:15:25,239
hard to work out until you plaid the game, I think,

1134
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,680
and you did very well. So can you give me

1135
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:32,439
one final truth bomb on medieval theology to tie off

1136
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,279
the realms, to simply and get an extra point.

1137
01:15:36,399 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 2: Well, here's the truth bomb. In the West, we are

1138
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:46,239
dominated by medieval Latin theological ideas and scholasticism, and we

1139
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:51,439
don't know anything about Byzantium. So the Christian Empire Byzantium,

1140
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:57,680
which was an empire that forbade usury, stands out as

1141
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,840
I think an ethical example that in Latin worst you

1142
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,560
have the papacy already for example, okaying the use of

1143
01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,680
usury when you have the forbidding of that throughout Byzantium.

1144
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,920
So there's a lot of Christian principles and ethics that

1145
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,720
I think are suppressed because we never learned about Byzantium

1146
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:16,159
in the West.

1147
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:21,079
Speaker 1: Excellent, and yet we should have had a brilliant, excellent

1148
01:16:21,079 --> 01:16:24,439
truth prompt to end around, and I will say. My

1149
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:37,239
producer here said transsubstantiation was suspended during COVID nineteen. True. Excellent, Okay, Nami,

1150
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,960
look at your ears? What has happened?

1151
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 3: I don't know, character boy, I love it.

1152
01:16:44,039 --> 01:16:48,720
Speaker 1: I love it, so it is your route. Now I'm

1153
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,760
going to ask you eighteen general knowledge questions generated by

1154
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:58,560
honest and truthful AI on pointy ears and the symbology

1155
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:02,000
of it. No. No, on a cult movements of the

1156
01:17:02,119 --> 01:17:06,880
twentieth century. Sorry I misread. Of course, you may sense

1157
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,640
outrageous bullshit, because AI does that every now and again.

1158
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:13,399
You can end extra points by setting the story straight,

1159
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:17,239
adding the truth bomb along the way your specialists round.

1160
01:17:17,239 --> 01:17:17,880
Are you ready?

1161
01:17:18,319 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 3: I'm ready?

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Speaker 1: What a cult movement founded by Helena Blovotski in eighteen

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seventy five emphasized ancient wisdom and Eastern spirituality.

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Speaker 3: That is called Theosophy.

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Speaker 1: It is, indeed any truth bombs to be had.

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Speaker 3: On truth bomb is that Theosophy became the New Age.

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So you may be more of a Theosophist than you think.

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If you like yoga, meditation, Eastern mysticism, all that fun

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stuff coming over to the West.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was innocent to be an Alan Watts

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fan once upon a time. You know, Yeah, it turns

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out it makes me a philosophist. Indeed, he hang around.

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Actually was something interesting, people, that's brilliant. That's a brilliant

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truth farm. You quite correct with the answer, Okay, Next one,

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who was the British occultist who founded the religion of

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Filama in the early twentieth century, of course, and there

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will be some crossover with your last.

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Speaker 3: That was Alisha Crowley. Yeah, lima truth bomb. Alima is

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the Greek word for will, and their dictum is love

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is the law, love under will and do it thou

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wilt show you the hole of the law. That started

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in nineteen oh four when he went to Egypt with

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his new bride and they channeled a ghollie from outer

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space named I Was and gave him the Book of

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the Law. And that's started.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't trust that guy from out of space if

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I was. And that's just saying that's me personally.

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Speaker 3: Well, too many longs and iwases.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't like it when they got too

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many eyes and ease and whatever in their names. Sounds

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foreign to me, right, What British occult group established in

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the eighteen eighties focused on ceremonial magic in Kabbalah Golden Dawn. Yeah, indeed,

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I'm sure you'll know a couple of these answers. But

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then it gets a little harder. What modern pagan religion,

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popularized in the nineteen fifties by Jerald Gardner, emphasizes nature

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worship magic wicka. Yes, any any truth bombs on wicker

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by any gents.

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Speaker 3: That you just said it was the truth bombs. Though

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a lot of people think wika is nature worship that is,

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you know, centuries old or even back to the beginning

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of cavemen. But actually modern wicca is very new and

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very just geared towards cult behavior and taking advantage of

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people sexually.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially I think I think it's a lot of

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it is about co opting the later second wave plus

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feminist movements and really really using women in ways that

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allows them to feel like they're getting powered. But it's

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like you're saying earlier, it's just one more spell, always

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one more spell. Excellent, that's good and a good truth bomb, okay,

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which a cult movement founded by al Ron Hubbard in

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the nineteen fifties, began as a self help system called Dianetics.

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Speaker 3: That would be Scientology, the Church of Scientology, and they're

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gooy from outer space is named Zenus the truth bomb.

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They make you pay thousands and thousands of dollars to

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learn the true cosmology of the creation of the world,

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where Xenu brought the overpopulated aliens to Earth and threw

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them in a volcano, and their souls came out and

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haunted the Earth and latched onto cavement, and that spurs

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a lot of problems in the world today. So that's

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why they think people need the help or to be

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01:21:18,039 --> 01:21:21,479
audited in scientology to get what they call the thetans

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out of your soul.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true. You got to get them beetings out

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of your soul. Correct for the question, correct for the

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truth bomb. That's good. Now, AI does tend to give you,

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like it froze out. Some easy ones every known and

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sometimes it's already given you the answers. So some of

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these will be easy and some of them will be

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hard to respect. An easy ride.

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Speaker 3: But this kind of bomb everyone, so I can do it.

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Speaker 1: Do it, do it, collect them up. Don't think that

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you're going to know everyone just because you do well

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to start this game's hard. What describes the magical system

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developed by alist the crowd based on the phrase do

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what thou wilt?

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's thelima right, Yes, of.

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Speaker 1: Course, of course, which already gave you in the first question.

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Quite true, you can you can truth bomb it if you.

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Speaker 3: Truth bomb the end of the puzzle. In that is,

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your will is contained in your solar phallic consciousness, so

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you are a waker thinking with your head.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, correct, correct, excellent. Okay, now we're

1243
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getting we're going to get harder. Now what British occultist,

1244
01:22:34,079 --> 01:22:38,159
a member of the Golden Dawn, created the rider weight

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Tarot deck.

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01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 3: A E weight?

1247
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Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, do you know what either the A or

1248
01:22:45,319 --> 01:22:51,359
the E stands for? No, okay, I'll give you a

1249
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:55,600
correct for the is a weight still Arthur Edward? Wait,

1250
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of course it was Arthur. For what you did. I'm

1251
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just doing esoteric tarot stuff at the back again, don't worry,

1252
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it's just me inciting. What a cult movement founded by

1253
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Rudolph go On?

1254
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Speaker 3: Go on, Well, I was just gonna say what I

1255
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know about that hero deck was the artistry was done

1256
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by a woman, so it was a collaboration of her

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art and his ester.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most used within Taro Dicks as well,

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isn't it. It's very Yeah, okay, great, I'll give you

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a I'll give you a bonus point for that, rather

1261
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than the truth bomb. That's a good bit of information.

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What a cult movement founded by Rudolph Steiner combines spiritual

1263
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:52,520
science with practical applications like biodynamic farming. I forgot amthroposophy? Okay,

1264
01:23:53,319 --> 01:23:56,359
what a name? You just come up with them now

1265
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all over the place, right Well, you, like, I say,

1266
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some of these are going to it hard? Who was

1267
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the English occultist known for reviving druidry and founding the

1268
01:24:08,119 --> 01:24:21,000
Order of Bards, Ovates and Druids.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I hope you didn't do the bewitched wiggle your nose

1271
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then that looked like what it was. I mean, you

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can't you Yeah, no, you can't do that in this road.

1273
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If I if my mom turns into a cat, you'll

1274
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be in trouble. It was Ross Nicholsky. Okay. What twentieth

1275
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century occult practice involves communicating with angels through a system

1276
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developed by John D and Edward Kellyan Magic. Oh nice?

1277
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I like it? Yes, I had no idea about this

1278
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go on go on too far.

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Speaker 3: He was a one of your prototype of the spy

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for Queen Elizabeth and a magician for her. They started

1281
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looking into these scrying years where we're just like Mexican

1282
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obsidian and saying that angels gave him the special language,

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and also that the angels told him to swapwise with

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his friends.

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Speaker 1: So you know, brilliant, Yeah, you get.

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Speaker 3: Wise, you got to do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, incorrect with you get a truth bomb too. And

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I wouldn't have I wouldn't have known that at all. Okay,

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which a co group founded the Ninth in the nineteen

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seventies by Michael Aquino, split from the Church of Set

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and to focus on Sethian philosophy.

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Speaker 3: That would be Temple of Set and truth Bomb. Michael

1293
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Aquino was actually a high ranking army professional in San

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Francisco in the Prestidio and linked to several my control scandals.

1295
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Temple of Set focuses on SETI and magic, which is

1296
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merging technology with people. So one of their major tones

1297
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that they have to read is Metropolis. So the classic

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movie Metropolis, which marries technology and Satanism.

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Speaker 1: Yes well, yes, yes, correct and correct, and the last

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main event, truth Bomb with Rachel Wilson versus Dana Duda

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Rotten Jewels. Rotten Jewels is a really good expert on

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01:26:45,319 --> 01:26:48,560
Michael Aquino. She's a fantastic one to watch on that

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01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,520
as well. Excellent. Okay, good, good, good. I like this.

1304
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:56,039
You're doing well. Who was the Russian mystic who developed

1305
01:26:56,159 --> 01:27:02,680
the Fourth Way blended esoteric teachings with psychology?

1306
01:27:03,039 --> 01:27:08,840
Speaker 3: Oh? I know this because they the Mary Poppins lady

1307
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Pille Travers was a student of what's his name? Questianistic groogia?

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01:27:17,359 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you did? You know what his first name was?

1309
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:30,000
G A G Yeah. Oh god, you're so good at this.

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I'm not sure you got an excellent mind. George, his

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01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:38,359
name is George. Correct. I'll give you the I'll give

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you an extra point if you can so correctly spell

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his last name G you R yes, yes.

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Speaker 4: I no, fort is g U R d j I

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E F F because Russians don't like people.

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Speaker 2: There you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So a spoonful of sugar and all of these

1318
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things that came out of Mary Poppins, the Disney movie

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and the books are also like incorporated with mysticism.

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Speaker 1: From j Yeah, Jim Jimney. Jim Jimney, Satan does rock. Yeah,

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I know this, Okay, correct, correct, excellent. I'll give you

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01:28:29,279 --> 01:28:32,239
a bonus point rather than the truth from point for that.

1323
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That's a little bit of a factoid that I like.

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We Actually it was actually mentioned as well when Rachel

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01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:44,000
Wilson was on what a cult group founded by Anton

1326
01:28:44,119 --> 01:28:48,479
Levy repeating itself in nineteen sixty six promotes the philosophy

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of individualism and hedonism.

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Speaker 3: That would be just your classic Church of Satan. Yeah,

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and here's a truth bomb, speaking of sex spots and

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01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:06,520
all that. Anton Levy's secret passion was mannequins and robots

1331
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and androids, which he thought were going to be bigger

1332
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than for motors in the future because everyone would want

1333
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,920
to have a robot sex companion. So that was his dream.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, well he's not that far away from what

1335
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probably Elon Musks are as well. Correct and good truth

1336
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bomb there. What term describes the twentieth century occult practice

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of using sexual energy for magical purposes as taught by

1338
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:37,520
Pascal Beverly Randolph.

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Speaker 3: Can you read it one more time?

1340
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 1: What term describes the twenty twentieth century occult practice of

1341
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:51,880
using sexual energy for magical purposes, as taught by Pascal

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Beverly Randolph. The really basic term just sex magic. Yeah correct.

1343
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Speaker 5: Everyone likes a little sex magic, Yeah yeah, and any

1344
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any truth bombs on sex magic.

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Speaker 1: It comes up in my work quite a lot when

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I look into a Horris dib in The Perfumer Affair

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and the Man in the Mass Parties, the original ones.

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What if you've got anything interesting on sex magic?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so it works. I'm not saying that from

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personal experience, but it is a real thing where in

1351
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let's say, like Kenneth Grant, the successor to Alscher Prole

1352
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and the Oto, they write several books about sex magic,

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and basically it is acquiring things from the ether into

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01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:55,359
the natural world, the orgasm without a baby. So what

1355
01:30:55,399 --> 01:31:01,800
they would try to do is have a sterile kind

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01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:06,119
of sex and orgasm from a priestess and focus on

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the thing that you want rather than creating life.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, that's that. That's probably the best explanation I've

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had of like the most sinct that I've had since research,

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and it's so excellent. I give you definitely the truth

1361
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problem for that. Okay, who was the English occultist who

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developed the wiccan read emphasizing and it harm none do

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what ye will?

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Speaker 3: Was that Gardner or.

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Speaker 2: You have.

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Speaker 1: No no? That was Dorin Valiant or maybe Valiente, and

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I'm not sure how you pronounced it. Okay, Next one

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were left. Who was the French occultist whose writings on

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ceremonial magic influence to Golden Dawn?

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Speaker 3: A Life of Levi, Yes, erect truth bomb. A Life

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of Slevi is where we get the classic representation of

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Baffle me, the goat of the alchemists, who has the

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horns and the torch in between. He's got breast, one

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hand up, one hand down. Uh wow. So his writings

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and his drawing actually is where we get that classic

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representation of bath.

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Speaker 1: That is amazing and I didn't know that. Thank you

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for telling me that, and thank you for telling everybody

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else that. Good truth bomb. What occult practice, popularized in

1380
01:32:33,079 --> 01:32:38,399
the twentieth century involves using a crystal ball or reflective

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surface for divination, scrying, bloody hellgo you know some stuff?

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Speaker 2: Go on? Go on?

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01:32:47,319 --> 01:32:48,279
Speaker 1: Are you the truth bomb?

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Speaker 3: This how John Dee would communicate with the Inenochians. And

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I believe maybe Joseph Smith. I don't know if he

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01:32:56,399 --> 01:32:59,199
ever like looked into the plates or saw something like that.

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But yes, that's how you Wow.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did not know about any of this game.

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I knew they reflected is christable something happened, But that's brilliant, excellent,

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correct and correct. And the final one, this might be

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01:33:15,119 --> 01:33:18,119
an easy one to end it up. What twentieth century

1392
01:33:18,159 --> 01:33:36,800
occult movement founded by Annie Bessant promoted Indian spirituality and principles.

1393
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,319
Speaker 3: Well as not was a theosophist, but they also have

1394
01:33:33,439 --> 01:33:38,159
more Indian flavor. So I don't actually know what term

1395
01:33:38,199 --> 01:33:38,920
you're looking for.

1396
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:47,520
Speaker 1: Well, it's just the occult movement that she founded, will

1397
01:33:47,600 --> 01:33:54,600
make it, okay, it's theosophical society, okay, of course, of course, okay.

1398
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:59,199
And one last chance for we've gone through your two

1399
01:33:59,239 --> 01:34:02,520
special subject You've done really well in that round. That

1400
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:06,399
was a fantastic to watch you go. I same with

1401
01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,640
Jay as well. I mean you both got a lot

1402
01:34:08,680 --> 01:34:11,720
of knowledge. Have you got one final truth bomb about

1403
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,399
your cult movements of the twentieth century to round it off,

1404
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:16,159
something that just ties off?

1405
01:34:17,159 --> 01:34:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, truth bomb. So many many occultists and magicians and

1406
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,560
people like that are actually common and they dovetail into

1407
01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:28,640
each other quite a lot. So somebody like Anton LaVey

1408
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,359
the Church of Satan, he was also a carnival barker

1409
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,600
or a carney or someone who's just looking for a

1410
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:37,239
mark or an easy person to earn a little bit

1411
01:34:37,279 --> 01:34:40,319
of money off of. So a lot of these magical

1412
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,960
orders and cults and things are just ways too empty

1413
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:46,479
your pocket. They said that there's a sucker born any minute,

1414
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,479
or no, there's a sucker born every minute, and that

1415
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,079
was a quote from Alshacrowley that became part of the P. T.

1416
01:34:51,239 --> 01:34:57,399
Barnum circus. But yeah, it's just basically just con man

1417
01:34:57,479 --> 01:34:58,079
and buzs stuff.

1418
01:34:58,720 --> 01:35:01,239
Speaker 1: No, I don't want to be crude, but I think

1419
01:35:01,279 --> 01:35:04,640
it would be emptier pockets and emptier testicles. It tends

1420
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:11,479
to be the thing. Those are the two things.

1421
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:13,039
Speaker 3: Empty your sanity, because that's what happens when you get mixed.

1422
01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:17,640
Speaker 1: That's what happens with the psychology of scarcity mixed with

1423
01:35:18,039 --> 01:35:26,560
the indulgence of hyper sexuality. The excellent what a brilliant round,

1424
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:31,600
Thank you very Okay, so.

1425
01:35:35,239 --> 01:35:37,079
Speaker 2: The right.

1426
01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 1: Piker can spot role play games here. Okay, so my mam,

1427
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:48,359
I getting mixed up in definitely Okay, right, round three

1428
01:35:48,399 --> 01:35:56,600
special subject round Medieval theology for j something like yeah, yeah,

1429
01:35:56,640 --> 01:35:59,680
but no, you've already done it. You scored twelve points,

1430
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:02,640
eight truth bombs, two bonus points, no corruption points, no

1431
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:10,319
laughter points, totaling twenty two. And therefore your special subject round,

1432
01:36:10,359 --> 01:36:13,279
Jamie in a cult Movements of twentieth century you scored

1433
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:17,760
fourteen points twelve truth bombs, two bonus points, two corruption

1434
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,319
points for the hot dog, hat assault, no laughter points,

1435
01:36:21,399 --> 01:36:27,479
totaling thirty. You in trouble Jay. After three rounds, Jay

1436
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,560
has fifty five and Jamie has sixty one.

1437
01:36:32,600 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 3: This was really hard though.

1438
01:36:34,359 --> 01:36:36,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to say after something, can I get

1439
01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:37,840
something different for the next one.

1440
01:36:40,279 --> 01:36:43,399
Speaker 1: Jamie, who wins most of the arguments at home? Does

1441
01:36:43,479 --> 01:36:45,880
Jay win or does he let you think you've won?

1442
01:36:48,199 --> 01:36:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't Dare.

1443
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:54,159
Speaker 1: You do win?

1444
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 3: You he'll win the argument? Yeah?

1445
01:36:57,600 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: Ah? If you had to.

1446
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,279
Speaker 3: Choose professional argument winner.

1447
01:37:02,319 --> 01:37:06,560
Speaker 1: So ah, right, are you the winner of the arguments

1448
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:08,039
at the end of it, whether he wins.

1449
01:37:08,199 --> 01:37:09,560
Speaker 3: I win, you don't really win.

1450
01:37:10,319 --> 01:37:11,399
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true.

1451
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:11,840
Speaker 2: Jay.

1452
01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:17,239
Speaker 1: Remember that when you win the argument, you're losing in

1453
01:37:17,319 --> 01:37:22,079
that especially in marital arguments. If you had to choose

1454
01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:25,960
between marriage models, would you consider employing the lorraina Bobbitt

1455
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:36,239
mythology methodology. No, no, going straight across Jay. What do

1456
01:37:36,279 --> 01:37:38,760
you say, would you be upset if Jamie chopped off

1457
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:40,199
your wiggly woo while you slept?

1458
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 2: Or would it be a relief that would be upset?

1459
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:45,399
That's a pretty important part of life.

1460
01:37:46,079 --> 01:37:49,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to leave you with a lot more questions,

1461
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:51,600
like how many roads must a man walk down before

1462
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,560
he can finally find his severed penis on.

1463
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 2: The it's over? Oh my god, unless I transition into

1464
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:00,399
a female.

1465
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:09,079
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So we now enter the quick five picture

1466
01:38:09,079 --> 01:38:13,800
around this week, it's called chung Us the Bogeyman. I

1467
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,560
asked AI to make some of the most famous people

1468
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:20,479
in the swamp into swamp dwelling bogey men, and it's

1469
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,159
up to you to buzz in first when you recognize

1470
01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:27,600
the famous faith by saying truth bomb. We're just looking

1471
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,520
for the people, that's all we're looking for. Here, the

1472
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:33,359
people you see on the screen, there'll be eight of them.

1473
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:38,680
It'll be quick first one to say truth bomb. If

1474
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,760
you get it right, then you can add a truth

1475
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:43,560
bomb if you want. But we don't really do truth

1476
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,640
bombs that much in this round. Here we go.

1477
01:38:49,199 --> 01:38:49,800
Speaker 2: Truth bomb.

1478
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 1: Ah, Jay, who is chunk is? Yes, yes, go on

1479
01:38:55,800 --> 01:39:00,960
say it again? Yeah. Indeed, Dan Bongie, you know as

1480
01:39:01,039 --> 01:39:06,159
cool called out of the swamp and is okay? Next one, truth,

1481
01:39:06,399 --> 01:39:08,680
get ready to say it. Sometimes you just gotta say

1482
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:14,479
it truth. Oh Jay, come on coming back making some.

1483
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:16,199
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1484
01:39:16,359 --> 01:39:24,039
Speaker 1: Dwight Eisenhower indeed, yeah, indeed that you might some people,

1485
01:39:24,159 --> 01:39:27,199
Jamie just stay truth bomb, whether they're going to know

1486
01:39:27,279 --> 01:39:32,159
it or not. Just okay, one of you just warning

1487
01:39:32,199 --> 01:39:34,039
the okay, next one, here we go, Here we go

1488
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:46,119
truth ah yeah, Alistair Crowley indeed, okay, get ready get ready?

1489
01:39:46,239 --> 01:39:50,680
Next one. Ah, that's Jamie that time.

1490
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:53,399
Speaker 2: Yeah it is.

1491
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:58,039
Speaker 1: It is definitely home with Simpson. He looks fantastic, though,

1492
01:39:58,119 --> 01:40:00,399
doesn't he. I tell you a I does with him

1493
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,880
some and well that's that's for sure. Okay, Next one,

1494
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:08,279
fingers on Triggers. Get ready, Here we go, truth bomb.

1495
01:40:08,319 --> 01:40:09,000
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders.

1496
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: Oh my lord, that was quick. Yes, yes you may.

1497
01:40:14,079 --> 01:40:16,000
You must have posters of him up on your wall

1498
01:40:16,159 --> 01:40:16,640
or something.

1499
01:40:17,159 --> 01:40:22,560
Speaker 2: Bernie Sanders one trial.

1500
01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:25,960
Speaker 1: Really good, it's really good. Go on tell me where

1501
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:27,640
you're Bernie Sanders. Book is where is it?

1502
01:40:28,319 --> 01:40:29,119
Speaker 2: I don't have any bird?

1503
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he doesn't. I don't know what his book

1504
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,520
will be, but it'd be something like I know. Come on,

1505
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:44,000
you think of what his book will be called. Yeah, okay, you.

1506
01:40:43,960 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 2: Get yeah, fire strikes back capital.

1507
01:40:47,359 --> 01:40:51,319
Speaker 1: Too, okay, right, next one, get ready? Remember Jim, you

1508
01:40:51,399 --> 01:40:58,000
might just want to say truth bombay bomb Yeah, go ahead, Yes,

1509
01:40:58,439 --> 01:41:02,720
Bernie Slanders. I was going to put in ned Flanders too,

1510
01:41:03,199 --> 01:41:09,600
but okay, get ready, first one to say truth farm

1511
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:28,119
bom ah, Jamie go on, yes, the Winkler himself, the Fonds, Yeah, okay,

1512
01:41:28,399 --> 01:41:37,439
get ready, get ready? Here we go, here we gors ah. Yes,

1513
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:41,920
it's true. It's big bad cal Marks, the man who

1514
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:45,199
never did anything wrong in his life, never caused any trouble.

1515
01:41:45,239 --> 01:41:47,720
That man, he was a He was a saint, a

1516
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:55,199
bloody saint like three crooked Southern District of New York.

1517
01:41:55,319 --> 01:41:59,399
Jailer's jay is busy giving unwanted strangle wanks to billionaire

1518
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,600
sex of while Jamie and I pretend to be asleep.

1519
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:08,319
Question is can we recognize manipulative technocratic cyborgs? In the

1520
01:42:08,399 --> 01:42:14,560
last picture round, our contestants will see six cyborg scientists

1521
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:18,960
as science levers. Four of them on each slide have

1522
01:42:19,039 --> 01:42:24,960
attended the Edge Foundation, while two have not. Our contestants

1523
01:42:25,039 --> 01:42:30,039
have to choose people who attended John Brockman's influential intelligence

1524
01:42:30,079 --> 01:42:35,319
linked events. Contestants will take turns to choose. Every right

1525
01:42:35,359 --> 01:42:38,439
answer will increase the point score. If someone getses wrong,

1526
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:42,960
then the accumulated points will be awarded to their opponent.

1527
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:51,680
Let's play Edge of Reason. It's going to be you

1528
01:42:52,199 --> 01:42:57,800
up first this time, Jamie. To start off, you've got

1529
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:03,800
to select someone who attended the fully funded by Jeffrey

1530
01:43:03,840 --> 01:43:12,960
Epstein Edge Foundation. There was so readily attended by technocrats

1531
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:13,640
of all type.

1532
01:43:14,840 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 3: Bezos.

1533
01:43:16,199 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I was I was going to tell you that

1534
01:43:19,079 --> 01:43:23,800
it is Naomi Wolf, Jeff Bezos, r F K Junior,

1535
01:43:24,119 --> 01:43:28,840
and Hunter Biden and Rupert Murdoch. You've gone with Bezos

1536
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:32,560
and you are correct. First point. Okay. If we stand

1537
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,800
on one point, now it goes over to j J.

1538
01:43:36,079 --> 01:43:40,319
Pick one. If you fail, then Jamie gets one point.

1539
01:43:40,399 --> 01:43:42,520
If you succeed, it goes to two points and hand

1540
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:43,720
back across to Jamie.

1541
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that Susan very likely attended.

1542
01:43:48,159 --> 01:43:54,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and and you mean I'm sorry, yeah, because yeah,

1543
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:58,560
the Susan and and they they actually both attended so

1544
01:43:58,720 --> 01:44:04,159
you can. Yes, it's true. Yeah, the wajikis both attended.

1545
01:44:05,159 --> 01:44:07,239
So now it's gone up to two points. We're going

1546
01:44:07,279 --> 01:44:10,359
back across to you, Jamie. You've got to pick now

1547
01:44:10,359 --> 01:44:15,199
that is fifty to fifty. Now two of them have

1548
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:20,119
attended the Edge Foundation events and two of them haven't.

1549
01:44:20,359 --> 01:44:30,600
If you picked ones that haven't, then Jay gets two points.

1550
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 3: Finding you your goal?

1551
01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:35,039
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that your question?

1552
01:44:35,359 --> 01:44:36,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1553
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:41,159
Speaker 1: No, Jay gets the two points. No, Hunter Biden didn't.

1554
01:44:41,239 --> 01:44:44,479
It was Rupert Murdoch who went in the ninety eight

1555
01:44:44,600 --> 01:44:49,520
ninety nine one I believe it was, and Naomi Wolf

1556
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:53,439
who went on a couple of occasions to the Edge Foundation,

1557
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:59,159
including dinners with Jeffrey Epstein. So okay, the next one,

1558
01:44:59,239 --> 01:45:01,760
this will go over for Jade to start off on

1559
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:06,279
this one. There's only three slides on this game. Here

1560
01:45:06,279 --> 01:45:12,439
you go on this slide, we've got Glaine Maxwell, Elon Musk,

1561
01:45:13,119 --> 01:45:20,560
David Attenborough, Larry Page, Brett Weinstein, and Eric Schmidt.

1562
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:25,239
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna say, if it's an Epstein event, just

1563
01:45:25,319 --> 01:45:26,199
Lane has to be there.

1564
01:45:26,840 --> 01:45:32,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Gillain, she was, he was Gizzy herself, Gizzy gizzyezz.

1565
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:39,560
He can't you see go across to you, Jamie Attinborough,

1566
01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:46,760
Oh g gets the point. You managed to manage to

1567
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:50,199
pick one who had Even though Attenborough didn't go to

1568
01:45:50,399 --> 01:45:53,520
Edge events, he was a member of the Royal Society,

1569
01:45:53,920 --> 01:45:57,880
which is the same sort of like you know scientists

1570
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:03,439
or establishment scientists in the UK. Elon Musk is actually

1571
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:07,159
a member that too. The the it was David Attenborough

1572
01:46:07,239 --> 01:46:13,079
and Brett Weinstein who haven't attended. Gley Maxwell, Elon Musk,

1573
01:46:13,199 --> 01:46:16,880
Glarry Page and Eric Schmidt were all attendees of the

1574
01:46:17,039 --> 01:46:23,039
Edge events. Elon Musk, of course, was attended in two

1575
01:46:23,079 --> 01:46:25,880
thousand and eight and twenty and eleven is pictured in

1576
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,560
twenty eleven in the same room as That's fine, okay,

1577
01:46:29,720 --> 01:46:34,399
and back across to you then, Jay, to start off,

1578
01:46:35,680 --> 01:46:38,560
here's this last slide.

1579
01:46:39,079 --> 01:46:43,680
Speaker 2: It's that uh genesis.

1580
01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:51,319
Speaker 1: You've got front man, Peter, Peter Tiel, Peter Harris, Steve Bannon,

1581
01:46:52,359 --> 01:46:57,560
There's Richard Taylor, the creator of Nudge units, Peter Gabriel,

1582
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,239
indeed and Gates.

1583
01:47:01,319 --> 01:47:05,239
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Peter Thiele is a must.

1584
01:47:06,279 --> 01:47:11,119
Speaker 1: No. That means automatically Jamie gets three points. This is

1585
01:47:11,119 --> 01:47:15,239
how it works. Wow, straight away she gets three points.

1586
01:47:15,359 --> 01:47:18,159
You have chosen one of the ones who didn't. Peter

1587
01:47:18,279 --> 01:47:21,920
Teel actually hides away a lot of the time. Sam

1588
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:25,439
Harris went to the events. Steve Bannon didn't go to

1589
01:47:25,479 --> 01:47:28,760
the events. Bill Gates went to the events. Peter Gabriel

1590
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:32,520
went to the events, and yeah, Peter Gabriel was in

1591
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:36,880
the twenty eleven event along a billionaires Din alongside Elon

1592
01:47:37,039 --> 01:47:40,600
Musk as well and Richard of Fayla was the head

1593
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,479
of the nudge units be Able inside Teams who actually

1594
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:47,279
was training Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos and a few others

1595
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:51,760
at the Edge event that was completely funded by Epstein.

1596
01:47:51,880 --> 01:47:54,199
There you go three points across. That was good. That

1597
01:47:54,359 --> 01:47:54,760
was good.

1598
01:47:55,119 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 3: Okay, we can sing a Peter Gabriel song.

1599
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 1: We get a point. Okay, go on, if you can

1600
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:09,359
sing of Peter Gabriel, she just comes up.

1601
01:48:09,239 --> 01:48:20,079
Speaker 3: With climbing up on sol very well city life.

1602
01:48:20,800 --> 01:48:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, Jamie gets one point. Jamie gets one

1603
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:31,399
point for singing. There was add comment there, right, okay,

1604
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,960
on just to say on round four, j got five

1605
01:48:35,079 --> 01:48:38,600
and a laughter point o getting total in six and

1606
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:42,199
Jamie scored three. That meant after that round Jay had

1607
01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:45,439
sixty one. Jamie had sixty four. Then in the last round,

1608
01:48:45,560 --> 01:48:48,479
Edge of Reason round, Jamie scored free and j scored

1609
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:53,319
three sixty four to sixty seven. Jamie, you are in

1610
01:48:53,359 --> 01:48:56,199
the lead by Free at the moment as we enter

1611
01:48:56,359 --> 01:49:03,880
into the quick fire last round, Jamie, do you think

1612
01:49:04,439 --> 01:49:08,479
an Elon Musk gay bot will eventually travel through time

1613
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,239
to bugger John Connor to death?

1614
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:13,159
Speaker 2: Um?

1615
01:49:13,279 --> 01:49:13,399
Speaker 3: No?

1616
01:49:14,840 --> 01:49:18,119
Speaker 1: Do you don't think they'll send a sperminator or a robot?

1617
01:49:19,159 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 3: No? No, superminators.

1618
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:28,079
Speaker 1: I'd like that, Jay, if you blew up a tesla,

1619
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:30,760
would it be assault on battery?

1620
01:49:33,199 --> 01:49:33,359
Speaker 2: Now?

1621
01:49:33,399 --> 01:49:36,319
Speaker 1: That is a terrible joke, it is, But so.

1622
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:40,840
Speaker 2: What we have the original T eight hundred hand, that's

1623
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:45,239
the Cyberdine tries to use. As long as we have that,

1624
01:49:45,319 --> 01:49:46,600
we will never have that problem.

1625
01:49:47,319 --> 01:49:51,359
Speaker 1: That that could be. Yeah, that could add Actually, if

1626
01:49:51,359 --> 01:49:55,039
one of Musk's baby mammas used birth control, would they

1627
01:49:55,119 --> 01:49:57,680
use a tesla coil or would they use that hand

1628
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:03,479
behind you? Mhm yeah, Okay, bad jokes, let's happen. Enough

1629
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:07,159
of that, Let's play quick fire around. There you go,

1630
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,560
We've almost come to the end of the show. Everything

1631
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:11,680
could change in the quick fire around and with the

1632
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:14,960
final truth bombs During the break, I asked Ac back

1633
01:50:14,960 --> 01:50:17,720
to an anti Swami Prabu Baba what his favorite song was,

1634
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,479
and he told me Harry Harry Harry Rama, Rama, Rama,

1635
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:24,920
Harry Harry Rama, Harry Rama. So that means that Jay

1636
01:50:25,119 --> 01:50:28,600
will be the first to go in this round. Are

1637
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:33,399
you ready? People? Right?

1638
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:37,560
Speaker 2: And right? Jay?

1639
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,760
Speaker 1: You have ninety seconds to answer as many questions as

1640
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:43,640
possible if you don't know the answers, and just say

1641
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,520
pass around is over. When you hear this sound so

1642
01:50:46,880 --> 01:50:53,439
penetrates the cabinets, Are you ready to rumble? Yes? Good?

1643
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:59,920
What nineteen seventy scandal involves South Korea's casey Ia influencing you?

1644
01:51:00,039 --> 01:51:09,079
US politicians? Past Koreer Gate? Which occultist founded the Fraternitus

1645
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:11,880
Satturney in nineteen twenties Germany?

1646
01:51:15,039 --> 01:51:15,239
Speaker 3: Did?

1647
01:51:15,399 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: Royce Gregor Gregorious? What CIA operation smuggled Nazis out of

1648
01:51:20,800 --> 01:51:22,319
Europe in post World War Two?

1649
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 2: Favorite clip? Correct?

1650
01:51:25,439 --> 01:51:29,479
Speaker 1: Which serial killer was called the Werewolf of Wisteria in

1651
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:35,560
nineteen twenties New York pass Albert Fish? What gangster ran

1652
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:37,800
the numbers racket? In the nineteen thirties?

1653
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:40,680
Speaker 2: Harlem Luckily?

1654
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:45,199
Speaker 1: Genre No? Stephanie Saint Clair? What a cult group? Led

1655
01:51:45,239 --> 01:51:49,439
by David Berg, was known as Children of God, the

1656
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:54,399
Children of Jan now the Family. What nineteen seventies a

1657
01:51:54,479 --> 01:51:57,560
cult group was led by Jim Jones, ending in mass

1658
01:51:57,560 --> 01:52:03,600
suicide Peoples Simple? Correct? What scandal involved Reagan selling arms

1659
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:08,079
to a round for hostages. Correct? Which serial killer operated

1660
01:52:08,119 --> 01:52:11,119
in London's Whitechapel in eighteen eighty eight but inspired twentieth

1661
01:52:11,159 --> 01:52:18,760
century fascination Jack Ribbers Correct? What CIA operations supported Latin

1662
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:28,560
American dictatorships in the nineteen seventies mongoose, No cabinets? Indeed,

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01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:32,279
Operation Condor? You did quite well.

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01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:33,319
Speaker 2: There you go.

1665
01:52:35,199 --> 01:52:38,479
Speaker 1: You have ninety seconds to answer as many questions as possible.

1666
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:40,920
If you don't know the answer, and just say pass

1667
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:44,680
around is over. When you hear this sound cabinets? Are

1668
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:45,800
you ready to rumble?

1669
01:52:46,359 --> 01:52:46,640
Speaker 3: Yes?

1670
01:52:47,279 --> 01:52:56,239
Speaker 1: Awesome? What gangster developed Las Vegas with mafia moneys these

1671
01:52:56,239 --> 01:53:02,239
people correct? What nineteen fifty free CIA coup overthrew Around's

1672
01:53:02,359 --> 01:53:10,359
prime minister Mazadec Contra no Ajax? Which gangster ran the

1673
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:19,039
murder inc hit squad? Pass Louis Busch aalter? What CIA

1674
01:53:19,159 --> 01:53:22,520
program involves secret detentions of black sites post nine to

1675
01:53:22,520 --> 01:53:26,800
eleven pest extraordinary rendition.

1676
01:53:27,239 --> 01:53:27,399
Speaker 4: What?

1677
01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:31,840
Speaker 1: Who was the Pakistani PM assassinated in two thousand and seven?

1678
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:37,680
Past better is a bhutto? What FBI operations spied on

1679
01:53:37,760 --> 01:53:43,560
John Lennon for anti war activism? Pass go intel pro

1680
01:53:44,119 --> 01:53:49,239
Who was the gangster known as El Chapo pas Guzman?

1681
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:53,800
What scandal involved NSA's mass surveillance league by Edward Snowden?

1682
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:59,279
No prism? What a cult order founded by Robert the

1683
01:53:59,319 --> 01:54:07,399
Grimstone promoted apocalyptic dualism, processed church? Which serial killer was

1684
01:54:07,399 --> 01:54:09,920
known as the vampire Duzzledorf.

1685
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:13,720
Speaker 3: Pas?

1686
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:18,159
Speaker 1: What gangster was called the Teflon down in nineteen eighties

1687
01:54:18,199 --> 01:54:27,159
New York. So we penetrate the cabinets? John Gotti? Oh,

1688
01:54:27,239 --> 01:54:30,319
I think I think they might have might have managed

1689
01:54:30,359 --> 01:54:33,000
to get some scores back. We'll find out, now.

1690
01:54:35,479 --> 01:54:40,119
Speaker 4: Okay, you should have got I know, yes, should get you.

1691
01:54:40,239 --> 01:54:45,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's how the quick fire round always feels a condor,

1692
01:54:45,159 --> 01:54:49,479
but it is a way. But we're nearly at the

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01:54:49,600 --> 01:54:52,520
end now, guys, I thank you very much for for

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01:54:52,920 --> 01:54:55,239
being this is this is brilliant. I love I love

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01:54:55,319 --> 01:54:57,680
these last rounds as well, and how it all works.

1696
01:54:58,199 --> 01:55:03,720
In the quick fire around, j scored four, Jamie scored one,

1697
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:07,439
and she got one singing point, so you've got two points.

1698
01:55:07,479 --> 01:55:12,880
Of course, this leaves after six rounds. Jay is on

1699
01:55:13,239 --> 01:55:19,159
sixty eight and Jamie is on sixty nine.

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01:55:19,079 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, made up points for singing.

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01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:24,680
Speaker 1: That's wait, wait, it ain't no over yet. There's one

1702
01:55:25,159 --> 01:55:31,159
always chance for one last truth bomb here on this show.

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01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:33,880
So first of all, I'm going to go to Jay,

1704
01:55:33,960 --> 01:55:36,640
and what we're going to do is you give a

1705
01:55:36,680 --> 01:55:41,880
final truth bomb about anything about any subject at all,

1706
01:55:43,159 --> 01:55:47,680
and basically something that you think will be enough to

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01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:50,880
win you the round. Whether it be about your specialist subject,

1708
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,359
whether it be about the state of the world politics,

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01:55:53,399 --> 01:55:56,079
it makes no difference. You can choose whatever you like.

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01:55:56,119 --> 01:55:58,439
We'll go across to you first.

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01:56:01,119 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 2: Well, one truth bomb that could tie all this together

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01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:09,319
is the CIA's alliance with certain philosophers. So in the

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01:56:09,359 --> 01:56:13,199
Cold War, the CIA thought that to align themselves with

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01:56:13,239 --> 01:56:18,399
postmodernist philosophers and deconstructionists like dry Da, they would be

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01:56:18,439 --> 01:56:23,840
able to create culture war or cultural toxic war. You

1716
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:29,119
could say. That also led to making alignments with the

1717
01:56:29,199 --> 01:56:33,720
Frankfurt School Marxists. So I would say that you can

1718
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:36,439
tie all this stuff together, including the CIA's alliance with

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01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:42,359
organized crime through operation underworld into a oligarchical model that

1720
01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:50,039
has no qualms or problems utilizing degeneracy to degrade the

1721
01:56:50,079 --> 01:56:55,399
culture and to control it. And that's always to the

1722
01:56:55,439 --> 01:56:59,079
advantage of the technocrats and the oligarchs. And the best

1723
01:56:59,119 --> 01:57:03,159
example that is Miles Copeland's Game of Nations book where

1724
01:57:03,199 --> 01:57:06,319
he talks about all the CIA operations that he was

1725
01:57:06,319 --> 01:57:08,560
doing in Syria and Egypt throughout the Cold War. He

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01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:10,439
says at the end of the book, we're all about

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01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:15,079
putting them into eventually a technocratic situation where population can

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01:57:15,119 --> 01:57:15,640
be reduced.

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01:57:16,279 --> 01:57:21,039
Speaker 1: Wow, that's a good truth vomit the end. It ties

1730
01:57:21,119 --> 01:57:26,119
in a lot as well, and is fantastic way to

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01:57:26,159 --> 01:57:29,159
look at what we're approaching with the technology at the

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01:57:29,199 --> 01:57:31,159
moment and the reasons why it might be happening.

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01:57:31,159 --> 01:57:31,520
Speaker 2: Excellent.

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01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:36,720
Speaker 1: Now we're going to go across to the lady. Oh,

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01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:41,560
those pointy ears, gorgeous, your smile, it's fantastic. It's been

1736
01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:45,199
such a pleasure to meet you and to encounter you,

1737
01:57:45,279 --> 01:57:49,159
and you've you're you are in the lead. Whoever gets this,

1738
01:57:49,319 --> 01:57:52,359
whoever wins this final truth bomb gets a three points

1739
01:57:52,439 --> 01:57:55,960
to round up here. So it's a winning it's a

1740
01:57:56,000 --> 01:58:00,239
winning truth, vombit at the end, give me some thing

1741
01:58:00,319 --> 01:58:02,920
that you think will blow my mind.

1742
01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:10,159
Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't care if I win, because I had

1743
01:58:10,199 --> 01:58:13,439
such a good time. And the truth is that we

1744
01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:18,560
all win if we watch this show and learn the

1745
01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:21,600
things that Jay's talking about and that I'm talking about,

1746
01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:23,920
and that all of the great people on the show

1747
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:27,800
come up. And I think this is such a fun

1748
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:31,479
way to get information out and get the people actually engaged.

1749
01:58:31,479 --> 01:58:33,239
So this is one of the most funnest shows I've

1750
01:58:33,239 --> 01:58:35,279
been on in a long time. And the truth is,

1751
01:58:35,279 --> 01:58:36,079
I don't care if I win.

1752
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:43,319
Speaker 1: Well, you're good. You are a hot breaker. You've got

1753
01:58:43,319 --> 01:58:47,239
yourself a hotbreaker there, Jay, Well, Jamie.

1754
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:48,359
Speaker 2: One, I have to say. I think she won.

1755
01:58:49,079 --> 01:58:52,960
Speaker 1: I think she won. I think you Yeah. The truth

1756
01:58:53,039 --> 01:58:57,600
one well, a truth, one kindness, one happiness, one positivety. One.

1757
01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:02,439
Such a lovely couple, and we want you to draw.

1758
01:59:02,520 --> 01:59:06,560
Really that's true. My producer saying it. Jab Wacky's saying

1759
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:10,199
in the bart, Me's saying, yeah, there's such a lovely couple.

1760
01:59:10,279 --> 01:59:13,840
We want some first ever tie. He's calling for the

1761
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:18,119
first ever tie. And Jamie, you you have your choice. Eva,

1762
01:59:18,520 --> 01:59:20,600
I give you the three points and you get up

1763
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:24,840
to seventy two and you win or I call it

1764
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:26,720
a tie. What do you say? And we split it

1765
01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:30,039
between you and you both end up on seventy.

1766
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 3: We'll call it a tie because he's win.

1767
01:59:32,439 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that. You can win.

1768
01:59:34,199 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 3: Well, you're the best teammate ever. You don't see up

1769
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,680
against us on game night, so let's keep it time.

1770
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:46,479
Speaker 1: Oh oh my heart, oh my heart. Okay, okay, seventy

1771
01:59:46,680 --> 01:59:50,720
seventy first ever tie. I'll accept that. And that's brilliant.

1772
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:53,960
I like it. And I always said they always had

1773
01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:57,800
to be a winner, but no, love wins out in

1774
01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:01,720
the end. Brilliant, brilliant. Well, I hope you had a

1775
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,720
good time on truth Bomb that.

1776
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1777
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:10,359
Speaker 1: Good? Well, you know where can people find you? Start off?

1778
02:00:10,920 --> 02:00:11,159
Speaker 2: Jay?

1779
02:00:11,479 --> 02:00:13,800
Speaker 1: Tell people what your your you know what you want

1780
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:15,720
them to have a look at at the moment, what

1781
02:00:15,800 --> 02:00:17,720
you want to plug if anything.

1782
02:00:18,439 --> 02:00:20,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find me at Jason Alisons dot com.

1783
02:00:20,439 --> 02:00:23,159
You can find my channel everywhere else, YouTube, brock fin

1784
02:00:23,239 --> 02:00:27,680
everywhere under that name. And right now I've finished Esoteric

1785
02:00:27,720 --> 02:00:30,199
Hollywood Part three, So the third book will be out

1786
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:34,560
same publisher as one and two, and Whitney Webb's books,

1787
02:00:34,840 --> 02:00:36,960
So you can get a hold of that pre order

1788
02:00:37,000 --> 02:00:38,720
at the website. You get signed copies if you get

1789
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:41,279
it from the website right now.

1790
02:00:41,479 --> 02:00:44,840
Speaker 1: Trying day, I take it correct and uh, right now.

1791
02:00:44,800 --> 02:00:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm reading through Max Blumenthal's book and doing analysis of

1792
02:00:47,960 --> 02:00:53,000
his take on Western intelligence utilizing radical Islam. So we'll

1793
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:56,920
be lecturing through that book pretty soon and working with

1794
02:00:57,199 --> 02:00:59,439
Sam Hi And we just wrote another episode of the

1795
02:00:59,439 --> 02:01:01,680
Sam Hid Show, so look for that to come out soon.

1796
02:01:02,319 --> 02:01:06,520
Speaker 1: And that's an excellent Jamie, what about you go on?

1797
02:01:07,119 --> 02:01:07,239
Speaker 2: Uh?

1798
02:01:07,479 --> 02:01:11,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we do a lot of shows together on Jay

1799
02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:14,159
Dyer's channel, and then I have my own little spinoff

1800
02:01:14,239 --> 02:01:17,000
channel under my name, Jamie Hanshaw is called Out of

1801
02:01:17,039 --> 02:01:20,159
This World. And we just had Corey Turner on this

1802
02:01:20,239 --> 02:01:24,920
week talking about the technocracy, game b and the dark Enlightenment.

1803
02:01:25,079 --> 02:01:28,159
So look for those new topics we're gonna be talking

1804
02:01:28,159 --> 02:01:32,000
about are you a person or are you a sim

1805
02:01:32,039 --> 02:01:35,880
coming up and maybe a little Mormonism uh in the future.

1806
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:41,199
And then I'll be releasing all of my shows from

1807
02:01:41,359 --> 02:01:43,960
Rock Finn that were a little old. I call that

1808
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:46,399
Defense against the Dark Arts because it was a lot

1809
02:01:46,439 --> 02:01:49,079
of like deep dark black magic stuff. That I didn't

1810
02:01:49,079 --> 02:01:52,640
think was suitable for all audiences. But now that's a

1811
02:01:52,680 --> 02:01:55,800
little older and we're a little older. I will put

1812
02:01:55,840 --> 02:01:59,079
those up for free soon enough, and then you'll know

1813
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:03,479
as much about as me. And it's fun doing all

1814
02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:04,479
this Hogwarts stuff.

1815
02:02:05,279 --> 02:02:08,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is amazing. Thank you so much both of

1816
02:02:08,479 --> 02:02:11,600
you for being on the show, as you've made my day.

1817
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:17,800
It was a brilliant it's brilliant time. Thank you, hello,

1818
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,800
Thank you for watching that show. I really appreciate it,

1819
02:02:21,840 --> 02:02:24,520
and I really appreciate having your time and your attention

1820
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:28,800
just for a little bit. To make content like this,

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I need your help. I am constantly working hard to

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1823
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1824
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Young generation like Prime Minister Trudeau, President of Argentina and

1831
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so on. So if we penetrate the cabinets,