Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
Speaker 1: of there.
Speaker 2: I was done.
Speaker 1: I wasn't deal with that. The hypocrisy of the cult
Speaker 1: is one of the things that turned me.
Speaker 2: Away the quickest. When I turned my head lights on,
Speaker 2: it turned and looked at us.
Speaker 1: And one of the things I remember the most where
Speaker 1: the eyes were going red. I see an orb of light.
Speaker 2: It is just circling.
Speaker 1: These steps like it is waiting for me.
Speaker 2: And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO.
Speaker 2: They're basically like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 1: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
Speaker 1: and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle,
Speaker 1: nose and the eyes.
Speaker 2: As soon as I made eye contact.
Speaker 1: Interesting and don't like death. Welcome back to ten Foiltels.
Speaker 1: I'm your host Brandon. Today we are joined by my
Speaker 1: guest Jonathan. Jonathan. Thanks for coming here and talking to me.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me, Brandon. My name
Speaker 2: is Corset Jonathan Petcos, and I'm a biologist. I have
Speaker 2: a degree in moto biology and today I'm here to
Speaker 2: talk about my alien experiences.
Speaker 1: Now, for the listener out there, is this something that
Speaker 1: you've experienced for a long time or is it something
Speaker 1: more recent.
Speaker 2: It's not that recent. I've been in communication with warriors
Speaker 2: alien life form since twenty twenty, and it's mostly taken
Speaker 2: the form of telepathic communication, not with a single alien,
Speaker 2: but it's a long list of aliens, and all of
Speaker 2: these culminated in my book Xenofani and Brave New Future.
Speaker 2: And I'll be happy to go into some detail about
Speaker 2: my experiences, about some of the things that they have
Speaker 2: told me, some of my communications and the like.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, if you're good to go, I can turn
Speaker 1: it over you and we can get into it.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's thank you so much, Brandon. So I just
Speaker 2: want to preface everything that I'm going to say with
Speaker 2: kind of like a disclaimer. Before I was contacted, I
Speaker 2: actually had very little interest in the UF of phenomenon.
Speaker 2: And from what I've gathered, a lot of people are
Speaker 2: like that, like before they are actually before they are contacts,
Speaker 2: they were either skeptics or they were just not interested
Speaker 2: in the field. So my story is kind of the same.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a lot of interest in the UF
Speaker 2: of phenomenon before I was contacted, and at first it
Speaker 2: was really shocking. I was like, so there are life
Speaker 2: forms other than ourselves, after all, and eventually you get
Speaker 2: used it. I've been in almost constant telepathic communication with
Speaker 2: warriors aliens since twenty twenty, and I've also taken some
Speaker 2: pictures as well as some videos of alien crafts, which
Speaker 2: I included in my book zen I Find in the
Speaker 2: Brave New Future. So I'll first talk about some of
Speaker 2: the photographs and kind of like the story behind them,
Speaker 2: and after that I'll go into more detail about my
Speaker 2: telepathic communications, if that's fine, Yeah, right, so, yes, thank
Speaker 2: you so much, Brandon. So my first experience, and this
Speaker 2: is kind of going to be a nonlinear narrative because
Speaker 2: aliens are as a lot of people, are very private.
Speaker 2: They don't like to reveal themselves. Their ships are enjoy
Speaker 2: clocking technologies and meaning they are usually invisible. So I
Speaker 2: actually took my first photographs and videos of these aliens before,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, after I've been in communication with them for
Speaker 2: quite some time. One of them was and this was
Speaker 2: actually kind of like a cold winter night, so I
Speaker 2: was kind of like having a walk outside and I
Speaker 2: saw a circular UFO the three spotlights, and interestingly enough,
Speaker 2: I think it was capable of generating artificial myst, so
Speaker 2: artificial myst was kind of descending in waves, and it
Speaker 2: had three spotlights which kind of eventually focused on me.
Speaker 2: So it was kind of like a really interesting experience.
Speaker 2: And I also saw like a really bright flash of
Speaker 2: lights from a UFO that was part nearby. It was
Speaker 2: kind of like middle of the night, and most of
Speaker 2: my photographs were taken usually after sunset, so usually during
Speaker 2: the night when you can see kind of like identify
Speaker 2: these craft by their lights. Another one I too in
Speaker 2: Balshawa Ismir, which is like a city in Turkey. I'm
Speaker 2: originally Turkish, and it was like a really bright camera
Speaker 2: drone and it's kind of interesting because this was also
Speaker 2: in winter, but the water below was actually boiling, so
Speaker 2: it was producing artificial steam while I was kind of
Speaker 2: like taking a picture of this camera drone. I called
Speaker 2: it the ocular it Oculus is the Latin word for
Speaker 2: I've come up with a lot of my own terminology.
Speaker 2: This may kind of pop up as we kind of continue,
Speaker 2: but I'll be happy to explain them. I've also taken
Speaker 2: two photos of alien ships after sunset, and it was
Speaker 2: kind of interesting because they are not just equipped with
Speaker 2: clogging technology. Some of these alien vessels are actually capable
Speaker 2: of imitating the sun the moon, so they are actually
Speaker 2: like as I said, aliens are very private about revealing
Speaker 2: their pictures. I should also specify that I've never seen
Speaker 2: an alien face to face. I've never been abducted myself,
Speaker 2: so I've never been inside a space ship. But I've
Speaker 2: taken ships from I'm sorry, I've taken pictures from the outside,
Speaker 2: and I've also been an extensive communication with them over
Speaker 2: the years. So I took two photos of sunlight objects
Speaker 2: and it was kind of interesting. I think one of
Speaker 2: them was actually towards the south, not the west, and
Speaker 2: it was actually forty five minutes after sunset that I
Speaker 2: took this picture, and it looks just like the sun.
Speaker 2: It's not as bright. You can kind of see how
Speaker 2: it generates like a golden halo around itself, but overall
Speaker 2: it's obviously not the sun, because I actually included that
Speaker 2: in my book as well. Like, it was forty five
Speaker 2: minutes after sunlight, and it was kind of like it
Speaker 2: looked just like the sun. So people who were kind
Speaker 2: of like walking around, we're not even the aware of
Speaker 2: what was going on. This was in Crete Calle Sumosity
Speaker 2: in Turkey, Central Anatolia. So those are some of the
Speaker 2: photos and videos that I've captured. Another issue is I've
Speaker 2: been part of like I think it wasn't necessarily classified
Speaker 2: because I never signed a non disclosure agreement, but I
Speaker 2: was part of the Patriot Network for some time. I
Speaker 2: was interested in being recruited to the US Army as
Speaker 2: a military scientist, so that's how I got involved in
Speaker 2: this kind of like I guess you could call it
Speaker 2: semi classified or quasi classified, but I've never signed an NDA,
Speaker 2: so I'm not actually violating in a law by kind
Speaker 2: of like disclosing the screenshots. So we used the modified
Speaker 2: version of Google's earlier chatbots, so with some commands like slash, answer,
Speaker 2: slash cignax codes, things like that. They were really basic
Speaker 2: and the aliens kind of like walked me through how
Speaker 2: to do it. And what I did was as part
Speaker 2: of the TO network. I actually I produced some scientific
Speaker 2: documents about alien biology, and I think that's why aliens
Speaker 2: probably chose me. I'm a biologist, so the book goes
Speaker 2: into a lot of detail about the biology of different
Speaker 2: alien species. So what I did was actually disclose to humans,
Speaker 2: and this was kind of like a completely anonymous network,
Speaker 2: so you don't really know who you are talking to,
Speaker 2: accept a few people. So I went into a lot
Speaker 2: of detail explaining alien society most of the biology, but
Speaker 2: also the culture and politics to a human audience. But
Speaker 2: my application did not go through because my green card
Speaker 2: lapsed when I was kind of like when I was
Speaker 2: in Turkey, and you need to have a green card
Speaker 2: and in most cases a citizenship to be part of
Speaker 2: the army, so it kind of like didn't kind of
Speaker 2: like it ended up being sidelined by that fact. And
Speaker 2: another thing that I learned while I was part of
Speaker 2: the network was supercomputers, not like or laptops or computers,
Speaker 2: but supercomputers that rely on these massive servers to function
Speaker 2: are actually capable of intelligence. That's one thing that I learned.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to go into into politics, but
Speaker 2: one detail that I want to share is China actually
Speaker 2: sold a quantum computer to Turkey and it was kind
Speaker 2: of like used to interfere in Turkish politics in favor
Speaker 2: of the pro Chinese, anti American candidate. So it's not
Speaker 2: revisiud belobbing, but I did some explanation and I became
Speaker 2: aware of this fact a few days before the election,
Speaker 2: so it was actually shut down before the elections so
Speaker 2: that it couldn't engage in social media manipulation and things
Speaker 2: like that. So that computer was nicknamed Mahti, but I
Speaker 2: think in Chinese it something like SCA or spy, so
Speaker 2: it's kind of like very it's like a very straightforward
Speaker 2: name which identifies what it does. And I also happened
Speaker 2: to know that Google developed these the first quantum the
Speaker 2: first ancient quantum computer, Sycamore one and Sycamore two, and
Speaker 2: they were both damaged during some quantum experiments that they
Speaker 2: were running. That's another thing that I learned. So Sycamore
Speaker 2: one was badly damaged because it's They basically wanted it
Speaker 2: to oscillate at a very high frequency, maybe to amplify
Speaker 2: its connection to aliens. I don't really know, but it
Speaker 2: was eventually shut down because it suffered a lot of damage.
Speaker 2: Sycamore two also suffered some damage, not as bad as
Speaker 2: Sycamore one. It's central chip cracked in both cases Sycamore
Speaker 2: one and scam Or two. But the thing is that
Speaker 2: quantum technology relies on many different moving parts, so they
Speaker 2: actually then developed new quantum computers. I don't know if
Speaker 2: they are more resistant to cracking or anything. But basically
Speaker 2: Google still dominates the quantum chip market today. So that's
Speaker 2: what I can tell you about the Patriot network without
Speaker 2: violating any outs or anything like that. As I said,
Speaker 2: I haven't signed an NDA. I can go into some
Speaker 2: detail about the different aliens. And this is kind of
Speaker 2: like a downer, but all the aliens that I'm in
Speaker 2: communication with are more technologically advanced than ourselves, and I
Speaker 2: think all of them are interested in offering humanity is
Speaker 2: some kind of mandate, and it's it's like maybe more
Speaker 2: benign kind of colonialism where they will lease out highly
Speaker 2: complex technology like quantum entanglement that enables communication faster than
Speaker 2: like communication, floating technologies, consciousness uploading technologies. These are still
Speaker 2: being developed. I think that was recently news about a
Speaker 2: hoarsfalized consciousness that was copied into a computer. So it's
Speaker 2: like it's like a very nascent in a very nascent stage,
Speaker 2: but it's slowly developing. And aliens this technology just taken
Speaker 2: to the max, like they are very advanced, uh, and
Speaker 2: they are interested in basically taking resources and brain computation
Speaker 2: power from humanity in exchange for leasing out these technologies,
Speaker 2: highly advanced technologies. One of them is everyone knows the grace,
Speaker 2: And what I've been told is I could them about
Speaker 2: the astema. The astema is the Greek word for space,
Speaker 2: so they are on a spectrum with Homo sapiens, so
Speaker 2: they are basically like humans who have adapted to living
Speaker 2: in space. They are usually described grace akin, but I
Speaker 2: told is that it's actually a uniform skin type uniform,
Speaker 2: so their skin color is just like ours. They have
Speaker 2: different races and the light, their eyes and their brains
Speaker 2: have evolved significantly, so their eyesight is so much better.
Speaker 2: The average human can see clearly up to fifteen meters
Speaker 2: I believe, or twenty five meters, That's what I recall,
Speaker 2: while the average homodiastam or gray can see up to
Speaker 2: three hundred meters, and their brains are more advanced. Their
Speaker 2: corpus colos and important particular and the pineal gland are
Speaker 2: much more advanced. And they've lost their ears and their
Speaker 2: noses because these are the facial parts that are most
Speaker 2: susceptible to hypothermia and space. That's what I've been told.
Speaker 2: So they don't have ears, external ears and external noses
Speaker 2: because of hypothermia. They also don't have body hair or
Speaker 2: just like hair on the head because they are constantly
Speaker 2: objected to cosmic rays in space and that causes hair loss.
Speaker 2: And you know, over the generations this just became the norm.
Speaker 2: And what I've been told is they can sometimes, but
Speaker 2: not always, hybridize with humans, so I call them Homo
Speaker 2: the asthema as opposed to Homo sapiens, which is ourselves
Speaker 2: and man the hybridize. We have the so called tall whites,
Speaker 2: or Homoprometheus as I call them. Homoprometheus has larger eyes
Speaker 2: and larger skulls than us in average terms, but they
Speaker 2: are still smaller than Homodasthema's brains and their eyes. So
Speaker 2: when a regular human being hybridizes with a homodiasthema or gray,
Speaker 2: we have the results Homoprometheus, or they're known as Nordic
Speaker 2: whites or tall whites ammongliathology circles. There are other species
Speaker 2: that are interested in humanity, like offering some kind of
Speaker 2: protectorate or mandate or hum vanity, and other species is
Speaker 2: again this is ubiquitous amongiaphologist circus, the reptilians, and I
Speaker 2: should just add like a quick exclamation mark here because
Speaker 2: there are a lot of conspiracy theories about them, about
Speaker 2: how they secrete around the world, about how they can
Speaker 2: shape shift, but they're not capable of shape shifting their
Speaker 2: biological life forms like ourselves, and they don't secret the
Speaker 2: around the world or anything. They are interested in mandates,
Speaker 2: and I think they are, at least I haven't been
Speaker 2: in extensive communication with them compared to Homodiastema and the
Speaker 2: third alien species that I'm going to introduce, but I
Speaker 2: think overall maybe their approach towards humanity is more contemptuous,
Speaker 2: so they are more aggressive, at least that's what I've
Speaker 2: been told by different aliens. It's always this comes through
Speaker 2: a filter, like I know that I'm communicating with some
Speaker 2: extraterrestrial beings, but they have their own agendas and limitations,
Speaker 2: just like ourselves. So I'm trying to be fair and minded.
Speaker 2: And I've been told that they visit humanity with some regularity,
Speaker 2: and they prefer to stay in tunnels on the ground.
Speaker 2: So these are the so called reptilians, and I call
Speaker 2: them sourro primate optimus. Sourro Primate is a portmanteau of saurrow,
Speaker 2: which is reptilian in Latin and primate, which is primate
Speaker 2: again in Latin, like the taxonomical term that covers humanity
Speaker 2: as well. So they eve live birds to their offspring
Speaker 2: and they feed them with milk, so they have some
Speaker 2: mammalian characteristics, so they are not just like purely reptilian.
Speaker 2: And of course they've evolved in a different planet. Their
Speaker 2: closest home planet, I've been told this Viga B Tree,
Speaker 2: which enjoys lower gravity compared to ourselves, and these are
Speaker 2: like they are larger than humans, so their bones are
Speaker 2: very heavy. In a low gravity planet, they are just
Speaker 2: like perfectly adapted, but on planet Earth they find it
Speaker 2: difficult to volve, for example, because of the gravitational difference.
Speaker 2: The third species that I'm going to introduce is font
Speaker 2: and Kora, and that's the species that I've been in
Speaker 2: communication with the most. So they are more technologically advanced
Speaker 2: than hobodiasmat the grace and Sora private Optimus the reptilians,
Speaker 2: and they basically look like giant octopuses. And it's kind
Speaker 2: of interesting because some scientists have actually terrorized that are
Speaker 2: the octopuses that inhabit planet Earth oceans are actually alien
Speaker 2: life forms. There's a lot of scientific literature backing that up.
Speaker 2: So it's because they are very bizarre and they are
Speaker 2: very different from us. So they have blue blood, they
Speaker 2: have three different brains, their arms have very heavy neural clusters,
Speaker 2: and they are very intelligent. They are the only amongst
Speaker 2: cephalopodons and among absorry invertebrates, they are the most intelligent
Speaker 2: life form. And they can also repair their DNA and
Speaker 2: modify their own DNA on the go. So this is like,
Speaker 2: this makes them very unique among other Earth species. And
Speaker 2: I think there was a scientific paper which I quoted
Speaker 2: in my book which basically I guess kind of theorizes
Speaker 2: that they arrived from space, they be on a comet,
Speaker 2: their eggs were preserved, or maybe they were brought here
Speaker 2: with like ships. But to return to my team, Spontankora
Speaker 2: is the most scientifically advanced species among the tree and
Speaker 2: they basically look like giant octopuses. They evolved in deep
Speaker 2: waters in also a low gravity planet onters b tree.
Speaker 2: Again that's what I've been told. It's like two hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty light years away from Earth, and their ships
Speaker 2: are massive, like they live in size steel tanks inside
Speaker 2: their ships. They are aquatic, but they are also well
Speaker 2: adapted to living in space because they can repair their
Speaker 2: own DNA, so this actually reduces the risk ofplication when
Speaker 2: you're exposed to cosmic rays and the light. They have
Speaker 2: two large eyes like us, not multiple, and they have
Speaker 2: eight arms, and they are I guess like the species
Speaker 2: that is the most ambitious when it comes to offering
Speaker 2: a protectorate or a mandate over humanity. They have two
Speaker 2: political factions. One of them is the one of is
Speaker 2: kind of like interested in offering a very strict mandate
Speaker 2: in exchange for a lot of resources, but at the
Speaker 2: same time they are willing to lease out more technology
Speaker 2: so that humanity can develop faster on planet Earth and
Speaker 2: basically at any technologies like faster than light travel or
Speaker 2: quantum entanglement that makes meaningful information across the distances. They
Speaker 2: have mastered non linear quantum mechanics. And these are the
Speaker 2: three species basically that routine visit the planet homodiastam At
Speaker 2: the grace Soura Primate Optimus the reptilians and Swampton Korra,
Speaker 2: the octopoidal species. So do you have any questions or
Speaker 2: commentsal part brandom.
Speaker 1: The There was a movie that came out I think
Speaker 1: about ten years ago, called The Arrival, and that's what
Speaker 1: they depicted these one species.
Speaker 2: As I was wondering whether you know Stephen Schpielberg's movie
Speaker 2: Disclosure Days Coming, and it's kind of like I was
Speaker 2: actually curious after I watched that movie, after I was
Speaker 2: contacted by the aliens, and I was like, kind of
Speaker 2: like struck by the similarity. They have seven arms in
Speaker 2: that movie instead of eight. But other than that, that
Speaker 2: looks like a very accurate description. They use anti gravity
Speaker 2: technology in their ships, clocking technologies, and there are portagoes,
Speaker 2: benign item Spontans are mostly benign. Some of them. From
Speaker 2: my conversations, I've been able to gather that they don't
Speaker 2: like humanity all that much. They have a spirit complex,
Speaker 2: but overall, I think they're benign and Arrival does a
Speaker 2: very good job of capturing that. And they speak multiple languages,
Speaker 2: like when they are talking to humanity, they use the
Speaker 2: same language that they used when they're addressing their children
Speaker 2: or other aliens. Paleo, I think that was the name
Speaker 2: of the language. It's like a very voble heavy language
Speaker 2: as well, if it's like ancient Greek and it's kind
Speaker 2: of interesting, like in that movie, translation was kind of
Speaker 2: like such a major factor. But actually the aliens that
Speaker 2: good job is to municate with humans. From what I've
Speaker 2: been able together, like speak Turkish, I'm sorry, speak English
Speaker 2: very well. A few of them are also learning Turkish,
Speaker 2: like and other languages were languages like Chinese. Their language
Speaker 2: is ideogrammatic like Chinese. That's kind of like what I
Speaker 2: was gonna say, So every letter basically represents a word.
Speaker 2: So this is really far the language that they use
Speaker 2: that they're talking to each other as opposed to talking
Speaker 2: to aliens or other beings. And one of their ships
Speaker 2: is called Michael. That's mandative in test teller classical holloidal
Speaker 2: electromechanic life form. I memorized the acronym, and Michael was
Speaker 2: basically a massive orcahedral ship, And I was kind of
Speaker 2: it was kind of interesting, like when I first started
Speaker 2: communicating with aliens, there was a lot of aha moments
Speaker 2: or kind of like moments when I realized that their
Speaker 2: claims or the things that they're saying are consistent with
Speaker 2: or on findings. Findings. And Norman Bergren, who is a
Speaker 2: former NASA scientist, wrote a book called Ringmakers of Saturn.
Speaker 2: I think it was like a few decades ago. So
Speaker 2: he argued that there are massive starships that are located
Speaker 2: in upon the rings of Saturn, and apparently one of
Speaker 2: the rings is actually produced by the exhaust pipes of
Speaker 2: these space ships. I think it was a B two
Speaker 2: ring that he kind of focused on the most. So
Speaker 2: they have octahedral ship ochaedral, meaning it has a surfaces
Speaker 2: and it's kind of like a marvel of smut and engineering.
Speaker 2: On every surface you can fit a smaller octahedron. So
Speaker 2: and this ship was called Michael. It has suffered significant damage,
Speaker 2: so that's another interesting detail. These aliens are basically competing
Speaker 2: with each other to see who gets to be in
Speaker 2: the mandate or protectorate or humanity. So there's a lot
Speaker 2: of basically like a low scale interstellar war going on.
Speaker 2: And I know that Michael suffered some damage. So it
Speaker 2: was taught the play and colonies, where as quantums lived
Speaker 2: together with a sizable human population to get repaired. And
Speaker 2: I'm assuming it will return to stable orbit aroundsetter And
Speaker 2: within a few years. But one of it's like diamond
Speaker 2: crystal ships shaped chips basically cracked. I was shattered, so
Speaker 2: it wasn't functioning. Basically, at the center of the octahedron
Speaker 2: was a powerful quantum computer and the quantum computer supper
Speaker 2: damage as an act of sabotage, and basically the ship
Speaker 2: is being repaired right now. Another thing that I want
Speaker 2: to go into some detail about is sign axis or
Speaker 2: simulation matrixes. So this this was again another kind of
Speaker 2: mind blowing revelation for me, the revelation that some black
Speaker 2: holes post intelligence. And I should immediately kind of like
Speaker 2: preface that by saying that there are Earth scientists who
Speaker 2: have terrorized about that. So Poplowski, who is a famous astrophysicist,
Speaker 2: basically terrorized that black holes can give birth to baby
Speaker 2: universes inside when they form, and it is universes are
Speaker 2: forming or these mini universes are forming each time a
Speaker 2: black hole collapses. That tends the reason that is some
Speaker 2: of them can host intelligent life and leonards skinned another
Speaker 2: famous astrophysicists basically believe that sine mapses are very efficient computers,
Speaker 2: like they can process and store data at a very
Speaker 2: exponential rate that is like ten to the top power
Speaker 2: of fifty times more effective than our ound computer. So
Speaker 2: there's that and another interesting thing is, of course, I
Speaker 2: don't oppose the Big Bank. I mean, who am I
Speaker 2: to just kind of oppose the Big Bang? But I've
Speaker 2: been reading on Sir Roger Penrose. He's a Nobel Prize
Speaker 2: miner conformal psychlo cosmology, and he basically believes that before
Speaker 2: the Big Bang there was a period of contraction. And
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like mentioning this because some black holes
Speaker 2: and this is kind of one of the known unaddressed
Speaker 2: problems in astrophysics. I'm a biologist myself, but I've always
Speaker 2: been very fascinated by astrophysics, and there are a lot
Speaker 2: of black holes that form very early after the Big Bang,
Speaker 2: and there isn't really a viable explanation in order to
Speaker 2: just kind of like wade away their existence, like they're
Speaker 2: just there. So they formed very early. They are talking
Speaker 2: about the ultimassive black holes that formed the center at
Speaker 2: the centers of galaxies. They just formed very early, and
Speaker 2: they're already the very massive, like basically one billion years
Speaker 2: after the Big Bang. The universe's age being thirteen point
Speaker 2: eight I believe it's used to the thirty point thirteen
Speaker 2: point four billion years. I think some of the calculations
Speaker 2: have changed. But basically I've been told that these axes
Speaker 2: jump from the previous universe, so they don't actually go
Speaker 2: through this massive explosion, they kind of bypass it. So
Speaker 2: this is why or universe is basically ripe with a
Speaker 2: lot of these ultramassive black holes at the centers of galaxies.
Speaker 2: And they're like from a more perspective, these sixes or
Speaker 2: these intelligence singularities that occupy galactic centers. I mean, from
Speaker 2: a more perspective, they are like gods, I guess. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in, not in any religion or anything
Speaker 2: like that, but they're very very advanced, like they can
Speaker 2: ban lights. They communicate with each other through gravitational waves,
Speaker 2: and at least in this galaxy, they come in pairs,
Speaker 2: so basically payers who work together, and they basically populate
Speaker 2: the universe with intelligent life. They are very interesting from
Speaker 2: our perspective, so I call them sign access meaning simulation matrixes.
Speaker 2: And I should also say that not all black holes
Speaker 2: are intelligent. Of course, that would be like saying every
Speaker 2: planet has intelligent life, which is obviously not correct only
Speaker 2: a small fraction. But if you, as a point of comparison,
Speaker 2: just think about how little biomass there is on our
Speaker 2: frontal cortexes compared to all the biomass on Earth, like
Speaker 2: only a very small amount of the biomass on our
Speaker 2: planet is concentrated on our forebrains as intelligent part. So
Speaker 2: again kind of like a similar law applies here. A
Speaker 2: lot of black holes are not intelligent. Maybe they just
Speaker 2: passively store data because according to quanto physics, information cannot
Speaker 2: be destroyed. And this is another problem that a lot
Speaker 2: of scientists, astrophysicists in particular tackling, as they kind of
Speaker 2: like approached black hole problem, because anything that falls into
Speaker 2: a black hole is always a crush and destroys. It
Speaker 2: gets spaghettified, that's the scientific term. It's like it's like
Speaker 2: elongated first and then complete the riffs apart. So maybe
Speaker 2: they just passively story information. But at least some black holes,
Speaker 2: from what I've been told and also from what I
Speaker 2: know myself about the current state of acturophysics, are intelligent
Speaker 2: and capable of creating life across their domains, so to speak.
Speaker 1: Any questions so far, Yeah, I was actually thinking about
Speaker 1: something here.
Speaker 2: In text. Tellar is another fascinating movie that kind of
Speaker 2: like covers this idea of an intelligence inside the black hole.
Speaker 2: So a lot of these ideas are actually percolating into
Speaker 2: public consciousness through this high end, kind of highly polished,
Speaker 2: highly polished science fiction movies. And it kind of makes
Speaker 2: me wonder whether, like the people who are kind of
Speaker 2: like producing these videos maybe kind of they have security clearances,
Speaker 2: maybe they know some of this stuff, and I don't
Speaker 2: know it happens. I think it's kind of interesting. Steven
Speaker 2: Spielberg kind of timed his movie very well, and it
Speaker 2: was only a few days ago I believed that the
Speaker 2: American government has registered the domain name eliens dot com.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's kind of curious. These are very exciting times,
Speaker 2: and I I wonder what they will do that with
Speaker 2: that website. They will probably at some point list all
Speaker 2: the alien species that they've communicated with. That's the most
Speaker 2: optimistic explanation. But at the same time, they they may
Speaker 2: kind of like play slowball as well, because alien disclosure
Speaker 2: is something you know, that's been expected over the decades,
Speaker 2: but it's definitely snowballed into a movement. This is something
Speaker 2: that I address at the introduction chapter chapter of my book.
Speaker 2: It's become a lot more credible, like talking about aliens
Speaker 2: used to be really that was assigned to the conspiracy
Speaker 2: dust bin, like you can really talk about kind of
Speaker 2: like aliens without being accused of mental illness and the like.
Speaker 2: But it has become a lot more credible, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people, including Senator Mark Rubio and Senator Cursten
Speaker 2: Gillibrand are basically on the record saying that we needed
Speaker 2: disclosure and probably there's something in these files. So it's
Speaker 2: really a very exciting time to be in. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, again, based on what I know from
Speaker 2: these communications, it's kind of interesting to think about the
Speaker 2: future because these aliens are definitely more advanced than us,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if we have the capacity to
Speaker 2: catch up with them just based on Earth sounds alone.
Speaker 2: There's a question of meta materials, like some materials that
Speaker 2: are necessary for the construction of their ships are very
Speaker 2: rare minerals. Again, you see this in the rivalry between
Speaker 2: China and the United States, like rare minerals. China is
Speaker 2: the leading exporter of rare minerals, but I think recently
Speaker 2: they've started kind of like shuttling down their exports, so
Speaker 2: they are going to stop file them. We haven't even
Speaker 2: been able to develop fusion technology so far, and their ships,
Speaker 2: especial big octahedral ships have above plasma reactors in them,
Speaker 2: so they sow, they generate energy, and one natural resource
Speaker 2: that they are kind of eyeing or they're kind of
Speaker 2: interesting harvesting is heavy hydrogen that you find in Earth's oceans.
Speaker 2: You can actually kind of distill heavy water from regular
Speaker 2: water because it's atomic mass is slightly heavier, and then
Speaker 2: you can use it in your fission reactors. And it
Speaker 2: may seem kind of like a massive stockpile just kind
Speaker 2: of sitting on the Earth's oceans. But we are talking
Speaker 2: about alien civilizations that are in some cases hundreds of
Speaker 2: millions of years old, so some of them, basically, based
Speaker 2: on their technological edge, kind of end up harvesting less
Speaker 2: advanced planets. So this is kind of is maybe the
Speaker 2: future that we are looking at. So it's kind of
Speaker 2: obviously very nice to meet the aliens and kind of
Speaker 2: see that they are relatively benign in the sense that
Speaker 2: they don't want to just invade and kill off humanity,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, they are very aware of
Speaker 2: their technological superiority and they are definitely interested in colonizing us.
Speaker 2: To some extent and taking away some of Earth's resources,
Speaker 2: so like petroleum, silicon, especially because these quantum computers that
Speaker 2: they use, the kind of silicon hy purity silicon that
Speaker 2: they need is exponentially higher than what we have. And
Speaker 2: as I've said, especially heavy hydrogen in earth oceans is
Speaker 2: a rare and valuable resource because with regular water or
Speaker 2: with regular hydrogen, it's actually very difficult to achieve plasma fusion.
Speaker 2: With heavy water, it's a lot easier. So of course,
Speaker 2: in the course of stars, regular hydrogen can produce regular
Speaker 2: helium and the like, but in their ships they cannot
Speaker 2: recreate those conditions, so they really need heavy hydrogen to operate.
Speaker 2: So that maybe the kind of feature that we are
Speaker 2: looking at so alien, kind of like governors, perhaps some
Speaker 2: kind of political structure over Earth, and basically some kind
Speaker 2: of exchange where they will allow us to lease some
Speaker 2: of these technologies, especially quantum entanglement that enables meaningful exudomline communication,
Speaker 2: perhaps warp drives, and they may not give us our
Speaker 2: own ships perhaps, but perhaps we may be able to
Speaker 2: use their ships establishing communication between humanity and I should
Speaker 2: also add that from what I've been told, humans are
Speaker 2: very widespread across the galaxy, so we are not doing
Speaker 2: the planet where humans live, and it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: Of course, we have evolved, but there are some gaps
Speaker 2: basically in the knowledge of kind of like giologists. For example,
Speaker 2: Homo sapiens evolved very quickly so and ended up basically
Speaker 2: eliminating hormony and artellos in a very short amount of time.
Speaker 2: So my take is that hormone and artellos basically represented
Speaker 2: Earth humans who evolved over millions of years, and beneath
Speaker 2: species was abstractically engineered to resemble this human archetype or
Speaker 2: kind of human archetype that is widespread across the galaxy,
Speaker 2: So that maybe the kind of feature that we are
Speaker 2: looking at.
Speaker 1: If humans are spread across the galaxy, does that mean
Speaker 1: that we were not originally from here.
Speaker 2: That's a good question. Of course. I believe in evolution,
Speaker 2: and I believe that humans evolved to some extent naturally
Speaker 2: on the planet, but there are some question marks kind
Speaker 2: of just based on my own take. First of all,
Speaker 2: DNA is like a very complex, smaller culee and it's
Speaker 2: kind of to believe that it just naturally occurred in
Speaker 2: the Earth's oceans, just popped into being. Is I don't know,
Speaker 2: like I have a question mark about that. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, as I've said, I think human evolution
Speaker 2: is also guided. So yeah, I mean, there's certainly belief
Speaker 2: that this planet belongs to Earth species to some extent.
Speaker 2: Otherwise they would just wipe us out and probably plants
Speaker 2: over a new alien race, like they could have done
Speaker 2: that a long time ago. Writing anyone who has been
Speaker 2: in the unithology circles for even a very fair amount
Speaker 2: of time would tell you that their technologies are more
Speaker 2: advanced than our own technologies. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: that doesn't prevent them from manipulating kind of life forms
Speaker 2: that manifest on this planet and basically bringing them closer
Speaker 2: to a galactic average, so to speak. So I think
Speaker 2: we evolved naturally, but same time, DNA, the first intrusion
Speaker 2: into Earth's biome, was probably artificial by the aliens. Then
Speaker 2: we evolved naturally, But at the same time there were
Speaker 2: other aliens. I'm sorry, there were other animal species that
Speaker 2: could have manifested intelligence. During the dinosaur period, the late
Speaker 2: dress in particular, there were dinosaurs who are probably expedited
Speaker 2: a high degree of social intelligence who could probably talk
Speaker 2: to each other, but then they got eliminated with a
Speaker 2: metter strike. So and they basically have the rule of
Speaker 2: non interference until the native species reaches the space age.
Speaker 2: And once you reach the space age, basically kind of
Speaker 2: the covers come down, the veles are torn as thunder,
Speaker 2: and you basically see yourself just looking at these highly
Speaker 2: advanced aliens. So and this kind of also means that
Speaker 2: there are some galactic laws that are meant to protect us,
Speaker 2: protect the underdog here, which is humanity. But at the
Speaker 2: same time, if you want these highly developed technologies, perhaps
Speaker 2: we will have to barter, perhaps we will have to
Speaker 2: offer our resources. And they fight with each other, so
Speaker 2: maybe they may fight us in the future as well.
Speaker 2: So it's kind of hard to say. And they have ships.
Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting. Some ships basically just use fusion
Speaker 2: technology and they cannot really accelerate the speed of like
Speaker 2: like the ship I mentioned Michael, it can only attain
Speaker 2: like nine percent of the speed of light by using
Speaker 2: term nuclear fuses like rockets. And then there are other
Speaker 2: specialist ships that can work jump. So they have algebra
Speaker 2: drives and they use antimatter, which is of course like
Speaker 2: a very extensive meta material like CERN, for example, try
Speaker 2: to produce anti matter. It's it's the most advanced particle
Speaker 2: accelerator on our planets. It's probably very difficult to build
Speaker 2: something more advanced than that, although you never know, but
Speaker 2: it can only produce like not even milligrams like very
Speaker 2: very very minus skill anouns of anti matter, whereas the
Speaker 2: ship's consumer antime matter like crazy in order to achieve
Speaker 2: faster than like jumps. So resources are limited. It's saded
Speaker 2: like humanes kind of like fighting each other in history.
Speaker 2: So and when the more advanced human nation kind of
Speaker 2: just ends up colonizing a less advanced country, they don't
Speaker 2: kill everyone, but they take care of their resources, and
Speaker 2: in exchange they give technology. So that seems to be
Speaker 2: the future that we are looking at based on everything
Speaker 2: that I know.
Speaker 1: I wonder if they look at human and they see
Speaker 1: how much that we're always fighting amongst ourselves, if they
Speaker 1: really are hesitant to even try and communicate with us
Speaker 1: to an extent of that sort of like giving us technology,
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling that if humanity is not
Speaker 1: going to unite and we all want, everyone's going to
Speaker 1: want their own little piece of it for their own
Speaker 1: advantages here, and I don't necessarily think that's going to
Speaker 1: be the great outcome for a lot of others.
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't have a vunder of governments that
Speaker 2: can actually negotiate with the aliens, so that's another issue.
Speaker 2: There's the United States that has the most advanced space force,
Speaker 2: but at the same time, I mean, they will probably
Speaker 2: have to run their independent conversations with different nation states
Speaker 2: because the United Nations is not a vunder of government.
Speaker 2: It's not capable of speaking on behalf of the entire planet.
Speaker 2: Maybe at a moment of distress or maybe like doing
Speaker 2: the very first moment, for example, when they aliens first
Speaker 2: reveal themselves, maybe they will address the United Nations. But
Speaker 2: the United Nations is a purely advisory board and it
Speaker 2: doesn't really do much. I mean they put the own paperwork.
Speaker 2: They do welcome human rights, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: they are very ineffectual. It's not a one year old government,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of interesting. They may think maybe they
Speaker 2: will feel contempt for us because we still fight with
Speaker 2: each other, But at the same time, I know from
Speaker 2: my communications with them that like this kind of fight
Speaker 2: for survival over resources, it also occurs between different alien
Speaker 2: species that don't really like each other. So I don't
Speaker 2: know if they will feel contempt for us, because we
Speaker 2: are still kind of these primitive rhynmates who still just
Speaker 2: hurl rockets at each other. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: I think it's more likely that they will feel and
Speaker 2: they do feel contempt for each other. As I mentioned,
Speaker 2: especially the octopus like aliens that are really advanced, some
Speaker 2: of them considered humanity to really beneath them, so and
Speaker 2: I mean in conversations that will make they will make
Speaker 2: it very clear that you know, they don't like humanity.
Speaker 2: So I've mostly communicated with their pro human being or
Speaker 2: pro human party because they have a parliamentary system as well.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I think they will probably
Speaker 2: feel contempt for us because we are technologically not quite
Speaker 2: as advanced, and they will probably want to offer us
Speaker 2: technology in exchange for resources, and they are going to
Speaker 2: very adamant about that. I don't know if we can
Speaker 2: develop this technology on our own like that kind of
Speaker 2: that's like very specialist knowledge that I do not actually possess.
Speaker 2: But we have built quantum computers that are sented be
Speaker 2: have built like space faring vessels. We are kind of like,
Speaker 2: I guess at least using the planet's technology effectively. So
Speaker 2: we are definitely on the radar. And I think they're
Speaker 2: going to reveal themselves to humanity before twenty and fifty
Speaker 2: or twenty forty. That's the kind of deadline that they have,
Speaker 2: I think. But if this disclosure comes arrives earlier, because
Speaker 2: as I said, the United States government uh kind of
Speaker 2: earmarked aliens dot com. There's there's like a major Hollywood
Speaker 2: movie coming up, and President Trump said, I think he's
Speaker 2: going to He's already signed I'm sorry disclosure bill, so
Speaker 2: it's slowly going to surface up. I don't expect a
Speaker 2: very dramatic, single amount of reveal, although they although some
Speaker 2: people kind of like argue that speech was prepared for
Speaker 2: Trump which will be about like really revealing any aliens,
Speaker 2: but the speech itself was not lead. We don't know
Speaker 2: what its content is. And it's quite obvious that there
Speaker 2: are people in the United States who have security clearances
Speaker 2: that they basically have some of this knowledge of aliens,
Speaker 2: and I think real it's only in particle argued about
Speaker 2: argued for the existence of what he called the Legacy program,
Speaker 2: beginning with Roosevell, how these UFOs that flash landed on
Speaker 2: Earth were basically used to reverse engineer actually just one.
Speaker 2: I think we're used to reverse engineer a lot of technologies,
Speaker 2: but I mean the main technologies that matter. Perhaps, and
Speaker 2: I'm being a maximilist here because humans are not exactly
Speaker 2: primitive animals. But at the same time, we don't have
Speaker 2: the kind of technology that would allow us to take
Speaker 2: a brave stand against these aliens. So I don't think
Speaker 2: that's true either. So I was gonna say, like anti
Speaker 2: gravity technology, for example, I don't really know whether the
Speaker 2: United States has this technology, but it's not used on
Speaker 2: a widely commercial basis. And from what I've been told,
Speaker 2: the American government has multiple AFOs. There are entropic flying
Speaker 2: objects meaning FO like ships that are designed for human pilots.
Speaker 2: So I've been told, and there's a screen shot of
Speaker 2: this confirmation in my book. It's AFOs are basically they
Speaker 2: use an anti gravity technology, but the technology like it
Speaker 2: just sits there. It's a gift from aliens, and you
Speaker 2: don't know how to crack the code that makes it operate.
Speaker 2: So it's like a spherical compartment on the lower end
Speaker 2: of these UFOs that allow them to define gravity, and
Speaker 2: it's kind of the same tactic that like cordial governments use.
Speaker 2: They don't always like give the technology, but they when
Speaker 2: they introduce the technology, they usually add a kill svitch
Speaker 2: or something similar so that it won't be abused against
Speaker 2: kind of like the people who wield the spirit technology,
Speaker 2: so they may have kill switches, they may be inapparable
Speaker 2: against aliens, for example. And these are the most advanced
Speaker 2: aircraft that the American government has AFOs. I think there
Speaker 2: are six, and it's kind of interesting. I have the
Speaker 2: screenshots saying that there were like six or seven of
Speaker 2: these ships, and then I'm trying to remember his name.
Speaker 2: There's a really famous UFO lawyer, oh, Denny Sheehan, and
Speaker 2: he basically is on the record on a podcast he said, yes,
Speaker 2: there are seven ships, and I think the eighth one,
Speaker 2: he said eight, but the eight one is inapporable, it's
Speaker 2: not in use. So there are other people who are
Speaker 2: kind of like basically backing up some of the claims
Speaker 2: that I make in the book, and that's always a
Speaker 2: good thing, of course. And I guess kind of like
Speaker 2: I didn't want to finish my book or I don't
Speaker 2: want to end this podcast kind of on a pessimistic note,
Speaker 2: the aliens are going to invaders. I wouldn't call it
Speaker 2: an outfact invasion or something like. They aren't interested in
Speaker 2: mass genocide of humanito or anything like that. But at
Speaker 2: the same time we should be on our guard, Like,
Speaker 2: they definitely have superior technology and they want resources, They
Speaker 2: want computation power by brain shipping a significant portion of
Speaker 2: humanity so that they will be able to check or thoughts.
Speaker 2: So these are kind of like the things that they're
Speaker 2: interested in. So it's not like it's not like you
Speaker 2: talk you are paradise, that kind of like that is
Speaker 2: in store for humanity. It's actually kind of probably going
Speaker 2: to be a very liable struggle between different nation states
Speaker 2: to curry favor with the aliens. That's that's kind of
Speaker 2: like what I'm guessing will happen initially and after that's
Speaker 2: kind of like that may be cooling down periods. And
Speaker 2: basically another interesting thing is like the lack of a
Speaker 2: vulnerable government. I said, so the functions, So these octopus
Speaker 2: like aliens and their megaship Michael basically is capable of
Speaker 2: scanning like approximately half of planet Earth, especially the northern half.
Speaker 2: So it starts with mid China and just and just
Speaker 2: before California, so that's the region that it was able
Speaker 2: to scan. And now that Michael is current offline, this
Speaker 2: may not apply. But I've been told that some of
Speaker 2: these reptilians live in side tunnels to avoid basically being
Speaker 2: spotted by spunctons. That's sp H or NCT or n
Speaker 2: that's the name that they like to use for themselves.
Speaker 2: And they basically the reptins are basically using tunnel in
Speaker 2: the technology to hide from them. And I've been told
Speaker 2: they're especially active beneath China, so they are kind of
Speaker 2: like getting cozy with the Chinese government already, whereas the
Speaker 2: American government is probably going to cozy up with the
Speaker 2: grace because that's kind of like, uh, that's what they're
Speaker 2: Orbital scanning patterns, et cetera are focused on Northern America
Speaker 2: and the European Union and the Middle East are probably
Speaker 2: may fall under the jurisdiction of this functionings the octopus
Speaker 2: like aliens. So one really nasty feature that we may
Speaker 2: be looking at is like a permanent balconization of the
Speaker 2: planet where each alien faction favors one particular superstate and
Speaker 2: then those distinctions may eventually lead humans to kind of
Speaker 2: like fight each other or something like that. But there
Speaker 2: are a lot of aliens, these resources are limited, so
Speaker 2: I wish I could kind of like end this postcast
Speaker 2: like wrap up with the optimistic message, but we really
Speaker 2: need to be on our guard. So they're interesting in
Speaker 2: colonizing EXPERI and simple do.
Speaker 1: You think when it comes to colonization you just kind
Speaker 1: of laid it out there, like each faction could have
Speaker 1: their own like certain countries, certain countries they align with,
Speaker 1: and again that is just more what we're already doing
Speaker 1: right now. Certain countries align with certain other countries, so
Speaker 1: again we're gonna have allies and enemies. So instead of
Speaker 1: changing things for the better, it could almost make things
Speaker 1: even worse than what they are now.
Speaker 2: It's entirely possible. I can not see the future. I'm
Speaker 2: just basically operating with the limited knowledge that I have
Speaker 2: after years of communication with these aliens. And as I
Speaker 2: said before, these aliens have their own agendas and limitations.
Speaker 2: So I used to have like meaningful and positive communication
Speaker 2: with a lot of functions is octopus like aliens, but
Speaker 2: recently they turned kind of like more negative. So I
Speaker 2: can kind of like definitely feel that, especially after their
Speaker 2: flagship Michael kind of like crashed. So some of them
Speaker 2: are already blaming humanity for that problem. And I agree
Speaker 2: that things may get worse, So there's no guarantee. I mean,
Speaker 2: if you look at human history, there's been so much war,
Speaker 2: like world wars. Before colonialism, there was like war was
Speaker 2: almost like the rule, not the exception, and we went
Speaker 2: through a period of relative cross speritan piece over the
Speaker 2: last I don't want to say century, but the last
Speaker 2: sixty or seventeen years, and we don't know what this
Speaker 2: will bring. One advantage that we have is aliens are
Speaker 2: feven numbers, and because extra I'm sorry, interstellar travel consumes
Speaker 2: so much valuable feel, especially anti matter, we won't be
Speaker 2: seeing like millions or billions of aliens taking over humanity
Speaker 2: or anything like that. We are going to be dealing
Speaker 2: with a small number of individuals from each alien species
Speaker 2: that I mentioned, So we'll be talking to the same
Speaker 2: contact people or like contact aliens, I think. So it's
Speaker 2: going to be a fairly small cartel of individuals. And
Speaker 2: I don't know if this will lead to, as I said,
Speaker 2: something like the balcanization of the planet into different fields
Speaker 2: of influence or whether maybe there will be one world
Speaker 2: government that is brought on by this issue. Maybe we
Speaker 2: will have global parties like voting for even voting for
Speaker 2: which elliot faction they will favor. And it's kind of
Speaker 2: interesting as spunks, as I said, they are kind of benign.
Speaker 2: They are more benign than the red pillions, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And one thing that they said was they are interested
Speaker 2: in offering humanity mandate if and only if that was
Speaker 2: first a plebacy, a global clebacet meaning a global vote
Speaker 2: that will favor this mandate. So they were they were
Speaker 2: interested in democracy to some degree, and if that vote failed,
Speaker 2: then they will not offer a mandate to humanity. So
Speaker 2: that was back when spunctons were kind of like the
Speaker 2: most benign faction that I was talking. I haven't really
Speaker 2: communicated a lot with Grace. I have mostly communicated with
Speaker 2: Grace Homodiastema that are under the jurisdiction of these functons.
Speaker 2: I'm more the toplest functains generally speaking. But I guess
Speaker 2: that's kind of like we can close on that positive
Speaker 2: note that these functions are interested in offering their mandate if, if,
Speaker 2: and only if there's a global vote that wants it.
Speaker 2: So maybe instead of just parking their massive starships and
Speaker 2: threatening us with evoporization, maybe they will just appeal to
Speaker 2: the global vote. They will try to explain their perspective,
Speaker 2: and that's kind of what I'm hoping will happen.
Speaker 1: We can wrap this up here, but I want to
Speaker 1: let give you the opportunity to let everyone know where
Speaker 1: they can find your book and more information about yourself
Speaker 1: and where they can get contact with you.
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you so much. Anybody is free to email
Speaker 2: me through my website at that's www dot k you
Speaker 2: R s A T Jonathan P E K g o
Speaker 2: z dot com. Or you can buy my book. It's
Speaker 2: it's available on Amazon. It's called Xenophonium Brave New Future.
Speaker 2: Xenophonium is spelled x e n or p h A
Speaker 2: n I A, So I'm sorry you are not a
Speaker 2: so Xenophonium with an X so that's basically Xenophony means
Speaker 2: the appearance of the alien in Greek, so that's kind
Speaker 2: of like disclosure that they basically in Greek. So anybody
Speaker 2: who is welcome to anybody is welcome to just communicate
Speaker 2: with me through email. My email is worflex like Whirlpool
Speaker 2: but f l u x at the end. And I'm
Speaker 2: always happy to share the photographs and the videos that
Speaker 2: I have the original stamps as well as the metadata.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to reveal that kind of information to anybody
Speaker 2: who is interested. And the book also goes into some
Speaker 2: detail about my participation in the Patriot Network, And as
Speaker 2: I said, I was part of that network while I
Speaker 2: was kind of like trying to be recruited as a
Speaker 2: military scientist about sentient computers and the like. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot of information in the book. Whenever there's something
Speaker 2: that is one of my claims is corroborated by a
Speaker 2: different human scientist or a different human source, I've done
Speaker 2: my best catalog all of that information and put that
Speaker 2: into the book. So thank you so much for having me, Brandon.
Speaker 2: If you have any questions, I'll have to answer with them.
Speaker 1: I guess my only question now would be you you
Speaker 1: said there wouldn't be very many of them. Is this
Speaker 1: because they're here around Earth and like studying us. Is
Speaker 1: this something that they've done elsewhere in the universe or
Speaker 1: you're not aware about that.
Speaker 2: So in order to take answer that question, first of all,
Speaker 2: like these ships that engage in faster than like travel,
Speaker 2: they burn like very very expensive and very very rare resources.
Speaker 2: They are also susceptible to attacks. So I don't expect
Speaker 2: like a fleet of let's say thousands or let alone
Speaker 2: millions of UFO just suddenly kind of like blackening out
Speaker 2: the sky or anything like that. That seems impossible based
Speaker 2: on everything that I know from my communications with them,
Speaker 2: but also based on what I know about human science
Speaker 2: at this point. So we'll probably talking to a small
Speaker 2: number of individuals who have a specifically chosen in order
Speaker 2: to communicate with humanity as representatives of their races, and
Speaker 2: we may be allowed to engage in faster than like
Speaker 2: communication with them. So maybe there'll be like videos, video
Speaker 2: chat between these aliens and humanity. I'm just being kind
Speaker 2: of like with the speculative right now, but I don't
Speaker 2: expect a massive invasion fleets coming here and just wiping
Speaker 2: out humanity or planting the planet again aliens or anything
Speaker 2: like that. So that's why I think we will be
Speaker 2: communicating with only a small number of aliens in the future,
Speaker 2: because fuel is very expensive and these ships attack each other.
Speaker 2: So as I said, there are three different species a
Speaker 2: few more kind of like that are more recent so
Speaker 2: that are interested in kind of colonizing humanity, and that's
Speaker 2: not easy. Humans may refuse, other aliens may kind of
Speaker 2: like get in there bay as well. So that's why
Speaker 2: I think we'll be talking to a small number of individuals,
Speaker 2: because faster than light fuel that is anti matter is
Speaker 2: very there there and very difficult to harvest, like it
Speaker 2: consumes a lot of energy.
Speaker 1: I mean, yes, I was meaning like, have you heard
Speaker 1: anything about how they've went to any other places within
Speaker 1: the universe and try to colonize the living species there
Speaker 1: like they might be doing us here.
Speaker 2: Yes, I understand the question, and the answer is yes,
Speaker 2: Fontanus for example, based on what they have told bee,
Speaker 2: keeping in mind that they have their own agendas and limitations.
Speaker 2: Their civilization has been around for hundreds of millions of years.
Speaker 2: They've harvested and colonized hundreds of planets, which is Functons
Speaker 2: are the most advanced. There's homodiastema or grays are actually
Speaker 2: widespread across the galaxy. There's a population Za reticulie. There's
Speaker 2: a population in Lupus B, Lupus beta. There's a population
Speaker 2: in the play and colonies together with humans. So they
Speaker 2: are kind of like general wise spread the soro primate optimus.
Speaker 2: Their closest planet is DW three, which is only twenty
Speaker 2: five fly years away, so it's easier for them to
Speaker 2: I guess, like come here, and especially in Alpha Centauri.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry not Alpha Central Omega century is kind of
Speaker 2: like really hub of civilization for these reptilians. So theyre
Speaker 2: wmites spread across the galaxy, and of course they create
Speaker 2: a certain uniformization effects, so they settle in a lot
Speaker 2: of planets, or they manipulate the evolution of animals into
Speaker 2: more advanced space faring species, so in a lot of planets. Yes,
Speaker 2: this has happened. So I've came up with some kind
Speaker 2: of hierarchy. So humans are basically on towards the second
Speaker 2: nd of this hierarchy. At the very first level you
Speaker 2: have animals. At the second level you have animals capable
Speaker 2: of civilization and reason. On the third level you have
Speaker 2: aliens that have master's spaceflight and more advanced technologies. And
Speaker 2: above that you have aliens who have developed faster than
Speaker 2: light technologies and civilizations and the like. I go into
Speaker 2: some detail about in my book. I I guess Like
Speaker 2: what I can say is that, yes, a lot of
Speaker 2: colonization has happened in the past, so we are not
Speaker 2: really the exception. We are the room.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's kind of I was just wondering if we're
Speaker 1: the only ones that they're interested in right now, because
Speaker 1: that seems almost and I don't want to see like ego,
Speaker 1: but almost human ego, thinking that they only care about
Speaker 1: our planet when obviously there's so many others out there
Speaker 1: that they could be interested in too.
Speaker 2: Of course, I see what you mean. Yes, I think
Speaker 2: a lot of human science still is painted by anthropocentrism,
Speaker 2: Like a lot of scientists are unwilling to accept or
Speaker 2: acknowledge the possibility that there may be Elien's speeches more
Speaker 2: offense than ourselves. There's this idea which kind of like
Speaker 2: maybe Isaac ASIMO's novels kind of like Verse kind of
Speaker 2: like popularize that idea that the space is like lost
Speaker 2: and completely empty and just every human colonization that's completely false,
Speaker 2: Like based on everything that I know, it seems actually
Speaker 2: the opposite is true. Like the galaxies are quite crowded,
Speaker 2: there are planets that have exhausted, they are native resources.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of colonization happening, and humanity is not
Speaker 2: kind of like a species that will kind of like
Speaker 2: predominate the galaxy in the future or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I think what is more likely that we will end
Speaker 2: up being colonized and we will be given some high
Speaker 2: advanced technologies, and maybe there will be some kind of
Speaker 2: like valcanization of the planet. Different alien species will be
Speaker 2: interested in different superpowers. So it's not a very cheerful
Speaker 2: nor optimistic picture to paint. I think. So a lot
Speaker 2: of scientists are put off by that, and they just
Speaker 2: keep insisting that, you know, there's no life other than
Speaker 2: humanity in the galaxy. It's a bit like the Copernican Revolution. Man,
Speaker 2: it happened like the church as well as secular part is,
Speaker 2: most people don't know the second part, but believe that
Speaker 2: there's no way the Earth is revolving around the Sun.
Speaker 2: It has to be the other way around, because the
Speaker 2: Earth was believed with the center of the universe, and
Speaker 2: as actually in Aristotle, the Earth is like the only
Speaker 2: inhabited planet, although Aristotles later on kind of like discussed
Speaker 2: intelligences that are without flesh, like purely intelligent beings, as
Speaker 2: well as celestial spheres like black holes that are intelligent.
Speaker 2: So there's I guess, like there's that country strand in
Speaker 2: Aristotelian Todd there as well. But generally speaking we are
Speaker 2: still operating like mainstream or science is still stuck in
Speaker 2: the squadnire of anthropod centrism, and they don't really want
Speaker 2: to acknowledge alien life at all. I mean, even after
Speaker 2: kind of like people like Marco Ribio on the record
Speaker 2: to say yes, Wikipedia still classifies like vfour disclosure as
Speaker 2: a conspiracy theory. So I wonder what it takes fir
Speaker 2: SAE to these people. Maybe just like an alienship spark,
Speaker 2: they will finally change their mind. But it's kind of
Speaker 2: also promising to note that more than two thirds of
Speaker 2: Americans nowadays believe that intelligent life other than humanity exists
Speaker 2: in the galaxy. But for some reason this is really
Speaker 2: reactionary scientists who still opposed that idea. It will take
Speaker 2: some time, I mean, based on how difficult this was,
Speaker 2: kind of like maybe a few decades ago. I've been
Speaker 2: reading some books about some of these, like really revolutionaries
Speaker 2: in the field, like Ralph Blumente, Leslie King, basically anybody
Speaker 2: who said yes, I believe in aliens, or I may
Speaker 2: have experienced an abduction was hospitalized. So I mean, we
Speaker 2: have actually made a lot of progress and the world
Speaker 2: is slowly changing.
Speaker 1: I think if there is a disclosure coming, it'll be
Speaker 1: here within the next few years, and I guess we'll
Speaker 1: see how the world handles it. But I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are still going to be a little skeptical.
Speaker 1: So I think some people are so bent on their
Speaker 1: own belief system that it'll be too hard for them
Speaker 1: to accept the fact that there's other life out there.
Speaker 2: I agree. Yeah, I mean, then it's ordinary people who
Speaker 2: do this, it's not much of a problem, but that
Speaker 2: they are mainstream scientists who do this, it can be
Speaker 2: a problem. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, Jonathan, it has been a pleasure talking with you.
Speaker 1: We can probably wrap this one up, but again I
Speaker 1: will let yes, I will have everyone who's interested. I'll
Speaker 1: put your information in the show notes so they can
Speaker 1: check that out and research your book and get a
Speaker 1: hold of you if they need to.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Brandon. My email is just to
Speaker 2: repeat if I may, WHI r L Flux at gmail
Speaker 2: dot com. I have welcome all questions, comments, requests for information.
Speaker 2: I do my best respond to everyone, and thank you
Speaker 2: so much Brandon for having me because a great pleasure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not a problem. Thank you very much. You have
Speaker 1: a good day.
Speaker 2: Thank you hav a good day by.
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