Speaker 1: Hello, ladies, gentlemen, Welcome back to the Predator Retrospective. I
Speaker 1: am the podcaster and the tree trash now and I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By the Berserker Kirkland Patzer, the seventh season survivor Jessica.
Speaker 3: Over here, Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Yes, Lasien, we are talking about Predators, so you can
Speaker 1: go back. We have done a retro for Predator Predator two,
Speaker 1: and then obviously this one, and then next week will
Speaker 1: be the re release of the Predator, so we're not
Speaker 1: going to retrospect of that. You guys know the rules.
Speaker 1: We don't do movies within five years or ones we've
Speaker 1: done recently. In what that came out two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: I guess it's gonna close. Sorry, twenty eighteen, right, the Predator,
Speaker 1: I think, I guess we're getting close, but now it's
Speaker 1: still four years so and plus I don't need to
Speaker 1: retro that movie again, but we'll re release review. It's
Speaker 1: tons of fun on that one. And yeah, then we'll
Speaker 1: be reviewing Prey, which is coming up soon August fifth,
Speaker 1: and then yeah, and then after that, there's but Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings retrospectives happening right now, So lots of
Speaker 1: retros happening tons of news, variety of many other things.
Speaker 1: I think this is dropping this week, so you can
Speaker 1: go back and check out our Comic Con coverage. Comic
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Speaker 1: fun day and uh yeah, tons, we got a mega
Speaker 1: mind retrospective happening. We got tons of things happening, Jessica,
Speaker 1: I saw your hand up.
Speaker 4: I just want to before, while we're talking about Pray.
Speaker 2: When I went to find this movie Predators and I
Speaker 2: searched it on Disney Plus, Pray came up and I
Speaker 2: was like, I thought I was one of those people
Speaker 2: that like Disney Plus Glitched and I.
Speaker 3: Got to watch it, but I over fucking.
Speaker 4: I opened it and just said trailer.
Speaker 2: I was like, ah, here, I was thinking I was
Speaker 2: going to be one of those people that got something early.
Speaker 5: It's excited, was it?
Speaker 1: I guess it's tame for a little bit, but then
Speaker 1: it's disappointment.
Speaker 4: It's true, and the disappointment was I don't know, I
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 6: Are you like itching to see prey though? Was it
Speaker 6: like one of those things like, oh my gosh, this
Speaker 6: is the best thing ever. Invite a bunch of people over,
Speaker 6: let's watch pray guys.
Speaker 4: It was more like, you know, oh this pretty cool?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have invited Taylor over,
Speaker 2: because I probably would have just started watching it in
Speaker 2: case they cut it, like that happened with.
Speaker 1: Rewind it Justice, that happen Justice. I forgot about that
Speaker 1: that it went live for under what was it under?
Speaker 1: Tom and Jerry?
Speaker 3: Right, that's right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now that that makes it.
Speaker 4: They cut it and they didn't get to finish it,
Speaker 4: wasn't it?
Speaker 1: That was true? Yeah, people, then we had to finish it.
Speaker 1: But still they got to see that first hour and
Speaker 1: a half and stuff thanks to Tom and Jerry. But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: Tom and Jerry this time, I feel like, can they
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Speaker 5: I was joking. I already have some products.
Speaker 6: But no, it was implying Taylor has his own separate photos.
Speaker 6: I trust was he was pitching in the chat, but
Speaker 6: alas think of Sight of Predators.
Speaker 1: At least he's pitching cleanly. Well speaking of some people.
Speaker 1: They need some production, these people on his planet. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you, so you know what, it's our first
Speaker 1: time having Jess gone the Prayer retrospective. And you said
Speaker 1: pifically because I'm like you talked about being predators might
Speaker 1: get every time predator brought I think Predator Alien gets
Speaker 1: brought you have no interest in it, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're you bugging Tarry saying something about it and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But you specifically wanted to be on this one.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let you lead off of why did
Speaker 1: you want to be in this one? And when was
Speaker 1: the first time you saw it? And what do you
Speaker 1: feel about now in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: So yeah, my interest in being on this one is
Speaker 2: I have really fond memories of this movie.
Speaker 4: I've never seen Predator. I've never seen Predator too.
Speaker 2: I watched this one not in theaters, but when it
Speaker 2: came out I guess to DVD at the time, and
Speaker 2: then I only watched the Predator for the podcast. And
Speaker 2: I probably will not see Prey in theaters. Just if
Speaker 2: I'm getting a babysitter or you or something.
Speaker 3: Else for you. It's not in theaters.
Speaker 2: Oh was it Street to Disney Plus? Oh, well, maybe
Speaker 2: I'll hop on the review for that.
Speaker 7: Then.
Speaker 1: Uh, you weren't on the Predator.
Speaker 4: Review, was I not?
Speaker 3: I don't know, she just support franchise.
Speaker 4: Maybe there was nothing else out who.
Speaker 1: Knows, fair enough, but continual one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I remember really enjoying this. I'm wondering, just
Speaker 2: looking at years, I might have watched a v P
Speaker 2: and then I was like, oh yeah, this is this
Speaker 2: is cool, and then watched this one. And I've never
Speaker 2: seen a single alien movie besides a VP. So my
Speaker 2: whole thing in this universe is limited to a VP,
Speaker 2: this and the Predator. Yeah, it's a it's a fun
Speaker 2: little world I'm living in here. Just all the prime.
Speaker 1: Prime choices, the series rated ones.
Speaker 5: I mean it can only go up from there.
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, I liked a VP, and you know what,
Speaker 2: I like this movie when it first came out, and well,
Speaker 2: I do have some problems with it.
Speaker 4: I still did enjoy it. I still had a fun
Speaker 4: time watching it.
Speaker 2: Travis looks extremely disappointed in that comment, but I digress.
Speaker 2: It's definitely got some problems with how it's aged. There
Speaker 2: are definitely some comments and some things that are said
Speaker 2: that are like, e, you know, the different time twelve
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 4: But overall, it was a fun watch.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I did rewatch it for this because
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have gone back to rewatch it Otherwise it
Speaker 2: would have just sat in my memory as a fun,
Speaker 2: happy movie that I really enjoyed.
Speaker 4: Overall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to hear what you guys think, just
Speaker 2: being the fact that I, you know, that's hashtag behind
Speaker 2: the scenes. I haven't listened to either of your guys's
Speaker 2: other Predator retros because I had no reason to, because
Speaker 2: I don't plan on watching them.
Speaker 1: That's fair, you know, kirkham Pats.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I uh, funny enough.
Speaker 6: I feel like this movie is kind of similar to Jessica,
Speaker 6: where I didn't see it in theaters. I feel like
Speaker 6: I didn't really even know this was out. This was
Speaker 6: definitely pre podcast days, when I like really wasn't in
Speaker 6: the now on movies and stuff, and then all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, my dad just had some movies out, and
Speaker 6: then I was like, oh, look, Predators, what's the funny,
Speaker 6: mister chuckles?
Speaker 1: You Taylor planning a podcast and he screwed up the
Speaker 1: dates and he's trying. He's like, oh, don't worry.
Speaker 3: Fuck it, it's too late. Gets me.
Speaker 1: Every time he's like, oh, don't worry, we can figure
Speaker 1: out a plan, and I dropped to Michael Jackson, it's
Speaker 1: too late if it gets me. Every time, I was
Speaker 1: annoyed with him because he made he double booked him.
Speaker 1: So I was like, you.
Speaker 6: Basked, okay, little little bts there behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: What was I saying?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So this movie was out and then I watched it,
Speaker 6: and I I remember really liking it. I definitely like
Speaker 6: misremembered certain moments that happened overall in this movie. U.
Speaker 5: But although I think it was a fun time.
Speaker 6: Put in the waiting room, I don't want I don't
Speaker 6: want to kick you.
Speaker 1: I don't predators.
Speaker 6: I mean, yes, predators, but honestly, this movie is fun.
Speaker 6: I completely forgot like some of the cast that was
Speaker 6: actually in this movie. I feel like majority of them
Speaker 6: are people that I've seen in other things before because
Speaker 6: you didn't.
Speaker 1: Know who he was, just some guy exactly, no, exactly him.
Speaker 5: I forgot Eric Foreman til for Grades was in this Yeah.
Speaker 5: But all I know, I feel like, I feel like
Speaker 5: this was still a fun watch.
Speaker 6: I I feel like, yeah, without getting into too much
Speaker 6: it it it really knew what he was trying to do,
Speaker 6: like from the get go, so it wasn't trying to
Speaker 6: have this like elaborate plan on why we're getting like
Speaker 6: a predator to to New York City or LA or
Speaker 6: something like that. It was just let's just put them
Speaker 6: in in a hunting ground, and that was I think
Speaker 6: that was just really fun. So yeah, I'll pass it
Speaker 6: along there. This is only my second time watching it,
Speaker 6: and fortunately for me, it was still a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take it. Yeah, I had seen this movie
Speaker 1: when it came out twenty ten. I was excited by
Speaker 1: the prospect of it because I'll be excited for the
Speaker 1: Red shows. I remember not liking the Alien Versus Predder movies.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking they were pretty bad, so I was
Speaker 1: happy to have some new blood going in there. I
Speaker 1: like Robert Rodriguez. Obviously he didn't direct this, but he
Speaker 1: produced it, and I think he had some He wasn't credited,
Speaker 1: but he talked about the script before, so he had
Speaker 1: it was a hands on producing projects. So and that
Speaker 1: was a time where I really like him before he
Speaker 1: introduced Boba Fette into my life. But anyways, that's another story.
Speaker 1: Note Robert is so great director with certain things. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a stacked stacked cast. And No, I liked it
Speaker 1: back then and I still really like it now. I
Speaker 1: don't judge a book by its cover, j escame. I
Speaker 1: thought I was laughing at that. No, I I still,
Speaker 1: like Kurland said, it's as simple. I think it's kind
Speaker 1: of like when we do the Jurassic Park retro and
Speaker 1: I said, there's only two things you can do with that.
Speaker 1: You can do the first Drastic Park and then Drastic World.
Speaker 1: Though try to open up the park. It fails, and
Speaker 1: then we open up the park and then it fails again.
Speaker 1: You know where this is like, Okay, there's only so
Speaker 1: which we're gonna get with Prey, but there's only in
Speaker 1: my opinion, and we'll see because Pray's getting lots of
Speaker 1: good reviews. But so far, I feel like there's only
Speaker 1: so much you can do with Predator versus a guy, right,
Speaker 1: And I feel like I like Predator two for what
Speaker 1: it is, but that's definitely because it's just very cheesy
Speaker 1: and over the top. The Predator not a good movie.
Speaker 1: So this was a fun idea to Okay, this is
Speaker 1: them training. We're gonna put them all, you know, these
Speaker 1: elite hunters, which some of them do you want to
Speaker 1: say elite? I don't know about that. There's there's some
Speaker 1: people where it's just like I don't know if I
Speaker 1: buy the guy from the Yakuasa as like an elite
Speaker 1: hunter like, true, we'll get to like he does some
Speaker 1: najul on, but some of these people are a little questionable.
Speaker 1: Like around the world. It is the best, but maybe so.
Speaker 1: I think it's a different type of slice of life.
Speaker 1: It reminds me very, very very similar to Saw Too,
Speaker 1: where a bunch of people wake up in their criminals
Speaker 1: and something like what do you do? Where are you from?
Speaker 1: And I had major flashbacks to that. So no, I
Speaker 1: still like it. I like the world, I like the
Speaker 1: concepts they introduce. It is a lower budget mood. I
Speaker 1: think you can feel that at times, especially the opening shot,
Speaker 1: this mooth of Asie and Brody fall into the sky.
Speaker 1: My god, it does not look good at all. It
Speaker 1: looks very bad. I wish she just woke up on
Speaker 1: the ground. And there's a few things like the dogs
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But that's fine. I kind of
Speaker 1: give it a pass because it is lower but yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's an enjoyable venture. Yeah, there's definitely some things
Speaker 1: in here, specifically Walding Goggin's character that does not age well. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was playing a criminal, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: it's like, because they play these things for comedic effect,
Speaker 1: that's what it's like, oh and all these preader movies
Speaker 1: don't age well.
Speaker 3: And I even remember when we reviewed.
Speaker 1: The Predator in twenty eighteen, like even in the current day,
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just like a very macho franchise.
Speaker 1: But now it's just like things about Masuism have been
Speaker 1: shown not be good, you know, and there's like the
Speaker 1: toxic side of that. So I still enjoy this movie
Speaker 1: quite a bit. I had a fun times it. I
Speaker 1: don't watch it like regularly, but next time I will
Speaker 1: watch you in my life. And I enjoy everything for
Speaker 1: the most part. But I have some cons here and there,
Speaker 1: so tear Field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so for me.
Speaker 7: I uh, this is it's tough because this might be
Speaker 7: my favorite Predator movie, like even more so than the original,
Speaker 7: just because I love how it attributes to the original,
Speaker 7: and I love how much it builds off with the universe.
Speaker 3: And again there is some I can't wait to get
Speaker 3: into that when we get into like more of the
Speaker 3: spoiler like talking about the plant and everything, because there's
Speaker 3: one scene that is probably one of my all time
Speaker 3: favorite scenes of all time, like in just in cinema,
Speaker 3: it's just absolutely incredible. Now I did get to see
Speaker 3: this in theaters. I remember when I found uh. I
Speaker 3: was on a super big kick in grade ten s talk.
Speaker 3: I know, I saw you fucking put it in there.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's the gift everyone's God. It fucking
Speaker 3: gets me every time though. So when I was in
Speaker 3: grade ten at the time and this movie was coming
Speaker 3: out and I found on the internet the posts because
Speaker 3: they're super cryptic about they released it a game on
Speaker 3: the Apple Store for it. I put it on my
Speaker 3: iPhone the time. It was fucking awesome.
Speaker 6: Gay, I had that game actually, but yeah, because you
Speaker 6: would play as the predator, right, yeah, yeah, that one,
Speaker 6: that one slapped.
Speaker 5: That one was so good.
Speaker 3: This is awesome.
Speaker 1: No one cut that out of context.
Speaker 3: Please, It was so good for a mobile game. But yeah,
Speaker 3: So they started dropping all these cryptic things like learn
Speaker 3: about like the history, like who, what's their real like ms?
Speaker 3: All these characters and stuff. I got so excited that
Speaker 3: I'm going to share some personal stuff here with you
Speaker 3: guys if you're watching the video thing. I kind of
Speaker 3: obviously like the personal personal parts. But on my Facebook
Speaker 3: I actually shared these back in the day. Come on,
Speaker 3: I got that. I actually posted and created an album
Speaker 3: for for Predators and put all the photos in there,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, this is just so cool.
Speaker 3: And I commented you like.
Speaker 4: Your own post I did, You're the only one.
Speaker 5: Was like, I'm the only comment too.
Speaker 3: I read so stoked on this movie. Yeah, Predator's Moll
Speaker 3: coming out release date July seven. And then I eat
Speaker 3: that white thing you see at the bottom there, that thing,
Speaker 3: I actually screenshot it and I took the time in
Speaker 3: grade ten did work on this. This is what I did.
Speaker 3: I actually did this and put this in my album.
Speaker 3: Times to go to a website to watch Predators trailer. Finally,
Speaker 3: I don't know if this link, like, yeah, it is
Speaker 3: obviously completely.
Speaker 9: Sost is I supposed to say finally, Oh it's supposed
Speaker 9: to for surely, my god, sound like a hobbit over there,
Speaker 9: but we get it when we.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Thanks for history there from yours truly.
Speaker 1: Have you tried to go to the website?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, you should go to right now, screenship and go
Speaker 1: to right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go to right now.
Speaker 1: She's a bunch of nudes of tailor. It's like you're
Speaker 1: the presser mask and then the platass naked.
Speaker 2: Raw card that's not our only fans on the zilla. Also,
Speaker 2: what's the one comment?
Speaker 8: It was?
Speaker 3: It just that was me, and I said like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is so cool.
Speaker 1: This is a sad look, I got to open up
Speaker 1: the thing. At that point his parents were looking at him,
Speaker 1: just being like, it's too late. Okay, is it the
Speaker 1: searching up here? Well, we're gonna take our first ad
Speaker 1: break and then we're back. We'll see the results of
Speaker 1: taste for sure, and then we're going to get in
Speaker 1: the spoils of this movie, so we be right back.
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Speaker 1: So many times are oh yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Like the website doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 4: Makes spelling it wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, finally, Yeah, Oh I did worse.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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Speaker 3: So my website is not unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Well tell you said you couldn't wait to get into
Speaker 1: when we were talking about spoilers. But before you get into,
Speaker 1: because I will throw to you, I have to start
Speaker 1: with this movie. If I had a very early place
Speaker 1: in our hearts in the geek for his podcast, because
Speaker 1: I remember Kirkland's last cast, which you know didn't last
Speaker 1: that long, but when we thought he wasn't coming back
Speaker 1: when he lied, uh for we did our top ten
Speaker 1: fictional fictional fair characters, and I remember you shocked the
Speaker 1: world like you have a very you can go find
Speaker 1: that list on YouTube somewhere everybody, but you have a
Speaker 1: very shocking list in general, but no shocking entry more
Speaker 1: than the character from this movie. Now, it's not Royce,
Speaker 1: it's not one of the other killers, it's not one
Speaker 1: of the predators with the names hunting. It is literally
Speaker 1: predator in the tree and Predator in the tree. That's
Speaker 1: what list was. Predator in the Tree Hens my my nickname,
Speaker 1: and yeah and Tay we talked about when we gave
Speaker 1: him crowd like, you don't even know this character's name,
Speaker 1: but this this is the one. Finally the watches and
Speaker 1: this is the guy who is in your top ten
Speaker 1: favorite characters. He still stand by that, Taylor, I would
Speaker 1: still stand by it.
Speaker 3: I like what I I watched. So when I watched Predators,
Speaker 3: I watched it a couple of weeks ago because I
Speaker 3: just I couldn't maintain my excitement. I had to get
Speaker 3: into it. And this is a movie where I'll always
Speaker 3: just if I'm just kicking around, I'll go on YouTube
Speaker 3: and I'll just watch scenes with a predator and I'm
Speaker 3: just just like, fuck, this is so good. And the
Speaker 3: main not the main hunting predator on the Predator that's
Speaker 3: been tied up, and it's just like on the totem,
Speaker 3: I've like, fuck, it's so cool when he gets cut,
Speaker 3: when Royce just shows up cuts him down, and then
Speaker 3: you get that og predator theme that's like remixed, and
Speaker 3: it's like like like, oh, holy fuck, it's just remixing,
Speaker 3: and the Predator is just like grabs Royce like looking
Speaker 3: at his skull, drops him, and then man, this is
Speaker 3: just what I fucking love the remix kicks and hard
Speaker 3: and it's like do do do do do doo, and
Speaker 3: he's like slow mo putting his helmet on. He puts
Speaker 3: it on and then like the electricity fizzles over his body, like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is so fucking good. And then he activates his
Speaker 3: gauntlet and then he I just I love the scenes
Speaker 3: so much where Earth appears and you just see like
Speaker 3: the smile on Royce. That's a big kicker for me,
Speaker 3: is when you can see like an alien species is
Speaker 3: kind of like befriending like a human, and then they
Speaker 3: have that bone. That's why like alien versus pread Er
Speaker 3: so much, because they have that dynamic in there. But
Speaker 3: just to see this scene here and then the music's
Speaker 3: still kicking in and then it immediately cuts. He hits
Speaker 3: the button activate the ship. Oh, I'm just fucking losing
Speaker 3: my mind right now in the living room. And then
Speaker 3: the Brazerker comes in and then the Predder steps in
Speaker 3: front of Royce. Oh, it's that's one of the greatest
Speaker 3: scenes of all time I ever seen a movie. It's
Speaker 3: so perfect.
Speaker 2: I gotta say though, the lead into that scene when
Speaker 2: he just like straight falls from the fie.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's just like.
Speaker 1: If you cut me, you'll catch you right, yeah? Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: where do we want to go? As far as uh,
Speaker 1: let's start with our gang. I have nothing more to
Speaker 1: sayd the Predator tree other than Jessica say what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say that I fell, and you know, I
Speaker 1: will say I think they were smart because now I
Speaker 1: can't remember this, you guys probably I guarantee it happens,
Speaker 1: and a VP do two predators fight at any point
Speaker 1: and a VP either one? So yeah, next see them.
Speaker 1: But I think it pretor yeah, but sometimes there might
Speaker 1: be like, oh, you know the enemy, the enemy is
Speaker 1: my friend or something like that.
Speaker 3: They say that, but that's the aliens.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so I think that was smarter them for
Speaker 1: they got a planet full of predators, let's have them
Speaker 1: fight because that doesn't happen. It happens a little bit now.
Speaker 1: And the predator that we got, but that was a
Speaker 1: very small version of this is a big one funking up.
Speaker 1: At this point, we had not got two predators fighting
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I think that was smart to do.
Speaker 1: Only it's like the greatest fight scene because that's just
Speaker 1: the guy like rolling around, falling over trees and everything.
Speaker 1: But I think it's fun enough, you're like, Okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing two predators fight right now, Taylor, I have
Speaker 1: to ask you, what is your theory for why that
Speaker 1: predators in that tree? I feel like you've thought about
Speaker 1: this for ages.
Speaker 3: You know it's like a humiliation thing.
Speaker 1: But why they humiliate.
Speaker 5: Him he's a freshman?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the rivalry that exists between the two clans. Basically,
Speaker 3: you have the the ones that are a little bit
Speaker 3: more My knowledge on this berserker preator is a little wacky,
Speaker 3: but they're just much more into doing their own thing
Speaker 3: and aggressive and not following the code and the ethics
Speaker 3: and the honor that the main yacha really stand for. So,
Speaker 3: yeah's that word yahucha, Yeah, I just learned about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Fishburne was talking about that there's just the
Speaker 2: two different species and that there's the bigger, stronger ones
Speaker 2: and then the other smaller ones.
Speaker 4: So and he talks more about it.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what he says exactly, but he says
Speaker 2: that basically they're in competition.
Speaker 3: Basically for the reasons why this preader's on total it
Speaker 3: could range show a whole bunch of different things. I
Speaker 3: take it as it's literally just humiliation. Just this hunter
Speaker 3: that's supposed to be a killing machine on top of
Speaker 3: the food chain is just left here just to hang
Speaker 3: there and can't do a single thing about it, and humiliation.
Speaker 3: Or he could have been exiled by his own clan
Speaker 3: and dispatched here. And this is again just like I
Speaker 3: don't know, Purgatory before Hell or something like that. I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: He didn't get his hero moment because he still lost
Speaker 1: that fight too.
Speaker 3: He did, but after being hung there for so long,
Speaker 3: he put up a good fight.
Speaker 8: That's true.
Speaker 3: It's just the way it goes for predators. I'm I'm
Speaker 3: longing for the day that a predator actually survives at
Speaker 3: the end of the movie and doesn't get beheaded or
Speaker 3: killed or nuked or something like that.
Speaker 6: It's a hard life man, their killer or be killed,
Speaker 6: and I feel like they don't want to kick their
Speaker 6: shoes up and of like a leisurely death. I'm sure,
Speaker 6: I'm sure they want to die in the heat of battle.
Speaker 3: They have to. Yeah, that's how they get to Valhalla.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Taylor, you'll be happy to know that that
Speaker 1: one that does kill the predator in the tree, like
Speaker 1: the I don't know, mister Black that's his name, mister Black.
Speaker 1: Why is his name in the black?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just gave that right now, action figure out there. That
Speaker 1: was the version of my Halloween coustume I bought a
Speaker 1: long time ago.
Speaker 3: Was he dressed as a predator for Halloween.
Speaker 1: It did well. I actually bought it. Yeah, I bought
Speaker 1: it for a spoof film, and I think I've told
Speaker 1: the story before with the costume online looked fucking badass,
Speaker 1: and when I got in person it was not that
Speaker 1: at all. It looked like trash. Never got to use it,
Speaker 1: but man, it was fucking awful. But alas, let's talk
Speaker 1: about our gang of misfits here, k Leaway, who do
Speaker 1: you want to start talking about first here in this adventure?
Speaker 1: Because yeah, they all get put down there just to
Speaker 1: set it up. You've never seen it, but they all
Speaker 1: they're all fallen from the sky. They all meet each other,
Speaker 1: they all trust each other, and they all realize, oh,
Speaker 1: we're here for one reason. It's to be hunted, and
Speaker 1: that's why they have to work together because if they don't,
Speaker 1: they'll die and not survive this mission. So what do
Speaker 1: you think about our gay of characters, anyone in particular.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I can start with the head haunch
Speaker 6: of Adrian Brody himself. I remember, I mean, I've always
Speaker 6: liked Adrian Brody. I think the first thing I saw
Speaker 6: him in was King Kong. Oh yeah, and Shane and
Speaker 6: I just recently powered through Peggy Blinders and he actually
Speaker 6: appeared as a villain in that and he was really good.
Speaker 5: The cast is insane in that show.
Speaker 6: Everyone's Andy Taylor Joy popped off in season five and six.
Speaker 6: It was that show is Stellar and Killian Murphy. Oh
Speaker 6: my gosh, I am so excited for Roppenheimer. He was fantastic.
Speaker 2: Is it fully done now? Like last episode is aired?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think they they saw yeah a little more. Well
Speaker 6: that's what I've heard. They're only doing six seasons, but
Speaker 6: I heard they're also doing a movie and then possibly
Speaker 6: like a spinoff series off of that movie. And I
Speaker 6: think Killian Murphy and like the other main guy signed on,
Speaker 6: So it's like, why not just do more seasons?
Speaker 5: But alast, so, did I.
Speaker 4: Can beinge it now? Though? That's my main question?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say so, it's it's yeah, I'd say, so,
Speaker 6: did you.
Speaker 1: Did you get the open higher trailer?
Speaker 3: When you did?
Speaker 1: Did you Yeah, that was a whole bunch of nothing.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 5: It was a lot of explosion.
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers released this movie in summer thinking it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hit. Oh my god, no one, what are you doing?
Speaker 6: It's gonna be hot. But Alas and predators. So yeah,
Speaker 6: Adrian Brody, he's fantastic. And I remember the first time
Speaker 6: I watched this movie, I was just like, man, what
Speaker 6: a great protagonist. He's like an airgorn to me, you know,
Speaker 6: like he's just a great leader. And then in this
Speaker 6: movie he's he's really just like kind of on his own,
Speaker 6: and like, I get it.
Speaker 5: He's just like he doesn't really care about these people.
Speaker 6: But like in my memory, I just I saw him
Speaker 6: as like leading the fellowship through these these predator filled jungles,
Speaker 6: you know, to like we're all gonna.
Speaker 5: Make it through this. That was not the case at all.
Speaker 5: So that was kind of an eye opening moment. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he kind of any moment. Yeah, I get it. He
Speaker 5: came back at the end for his hero redemption part,
Speaker 5: but I don't know it.
Speaker 6: He's I feel like I just I remembered him being
Speaker 6: a lot more human than than what he actually is
Speaker 6: in this because I feel like he's just kind of
Speaker 6: like that train killer that says like cool lines at
Speaker 6: certain moments. So personally, for me, I felt like his
Speaker 6: overall character was lesser than what I remembered. What about
Speaker 6: you guys, Adrian Brody, Royce, Jessica.
Speaker 2: So I have made it abundantly clear in at least
Speaker 2: our chats, I really love Adrian Brody. I was trying
Speaker 2: to hint it some kind of splice, you know, retro today,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 4: That's what I was trying. I was trying to get there.
Speaker 4: I was trying to get there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was kind of the vibe got that
Speaker 2: no one wanted to do it, so I was like,
Speaker 2: I won't go there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 2: So there was kind of two things I remembered going
Speaker 2: into this, and one was that he was super like
Speaker 2: mysterious and that to for grace had some kind of twist.
Speaker 2: I couldn't remember exactly any of those details, but that
Speaker 2: was kind of the two things I remembered. And you know,
Speaker 2: I guess it kind of works that he was my serious.
Speaker 2: He's very keeps to himself, doesn't want to give any
Speaker 2: information about himself. I don't know that I necessarily agree
Speaker 2: with the whole he's not human thing. I think he's
Speaker 2: just got a very high survival instinct for how to
Speaker 2: move forward in a way that's just kind of self centered.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say inhuman, though, especially when you compare it
Speaker 2: to some of the other characters and comments that they make.
Speaker 5: That's fair, it's all relative, still character.
Speaker 1: I still put him in the inhuman category though, because
Speaker 1: even then you got the reversal. Walton Goggins, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: a piece of shit, but then when Ali dies, he
Speaker 1: like is remorseful about that, where Royce is like, fuck, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't care. He was slowing us down, like he
Speaker 1: died for us. So I think they're all I think
Speaker 1: that's the point of the story, that he is on
Speaker 1: that other side, but that at the end he turns around.
Speaker 1: I do think he is that way for most this movie,
Speaker 1: because he didn't care about anybody until he cares about
Speaker 1: Isabel to an extent. But like again, he just it's
Speaker 1: just one person he cares about. Now, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a little late. All those people are dead now, so
Speaker 1: he's he's not really, He's just trained to worry about himself.
Speaker 1: Which I guess it depends what you value in life.
Speaker 1: If that's if you're value survival, then that's the most
Speaker 1: human thing you could do. But I think he's definitely
Speaker 1: in that category of being inhumane as far as not
Speaker 1: wanting to help anybody. He used the whole team as bait.
Speaker 1: He was ready for the whole team to die half
Speaker 1: an hour into this movie and he's like, I just
Speaker 1: want to see what they were.
Speaker 3: You attachment?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But at the same time, do you not have
Speaker 1: attachment just other people? If you were to see someone
Speaker 1: on the ground bleeding, would you just walk right by him?
Speaker 5: But you hear me, he just crouched over Taylor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing we have.
Speaker 3: He's alone, pre existing.
Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't say that. I didn't say me
Speaker 1: on the street. I said a person on the street.
Speaker 8: I think that.
Speaker 3: I would, And I think that's that's wherever would take
Speaker 3: advantage of me. He'd be able to kill me.
Speaker 2: The thing with Boyce, though, is what if, Yeah, what
Speaker 2: if we're all together though, and someone's there crying and
Speaker 2: he goes, yeah, I wouldn't go to him because they
Speaker 2: injured him, and as soon as you go to help him,
Speaker 2: they're gonna kill you.
Speaker 4: I know that because I did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine. But then there's ones where, like I said,
Speaker 1: he used them all as a trap. You can't justify
Speaker 1: that he used all six people just to see what
Speaker 1: the predator would do.
Speaker 3: That's and that's cerctly because he makes that case as
Speaker 3: well to Isabella when he says, like, you know, you
Speaker 3: kill for a country, so you don't have to admit
Speaker 3: that you like it. Like he's inferring all these things
Speaker 3: about the movie that he kills because he enjoys it.
Speaker 3: He doesn't give a shit about human life.
Speaker 1: He's not a good guy.
Speaker 3: He is a predator basically, and he's not a good guy.
Speaker 3: So I think it fits with him just being a scumbag.
Speaker 3: Just he's gonna sacrifice if someone gets killed, he's gonna
Speaker 3: put their lives on the line to see what happens.
Speaker 3: And it's it's horrible to put their lives in the line.
Speaker 3: But it worked because he was able to figure out
Speaker 3: a whole crapload about right.
Speaker 2: Everyone else in that group is playing checkers and he's
Speaker 2: playing chess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't make him a good like that
Speaker 1: doesn't make him not inhumane like that he's using them
Speaker 1: all as pawns then, and that to me is just
Speaker 1: like that's to me the point of the story where
Speaker 1: that's why he comes back. He's supposed to be the
Speaker 1: shoot guy. He's like what Kirkland say when he remembers
Speaker 1: this in the Hero, he's the anti here And obviously
Speaker 1: you haven't watched Predator, but like he's the exact opposite
Speaker 1: of Arnold, who Arnold the whole time is trying to
Speaker 1: save his team, right, he is the leader. He saves
Speaker 1: a random he meets that one random prisoner girl, He's like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make sure she gets out of here. Where
Speaker 1: this guy's like, fuck them all. I think that was
Speaker 1: smarter than do that. I hate when they rip off
Speaker 1: Arnold's line at the end of d It Kill Me Now.
Speaker 1: It was so lame. I wish, like, I hate if
Speaker 1: this was a remake, then fine, you can do that,
Speaker 1: but this isn't the same. This is a sequel to that,
Speaker 1: so I hate that, Like why he's saying the exact
Speaker 1: same thing Arnold said, like, it doesn't like Adrian Brodie.
Speaker 1: He doesn't even look like this these times too, but
Speaker 1: he didn't even look like he did work out first,
Speaker 1: they just look like they oil them up, because like
Speaker 1: he doesn't really much like he has some ads, but
Speaker 1: they're like skinny abs his arms. There's no definition to me,
Speaker 1: and they're like trying to make him look like this
Speaker 1: muscle guy runny. He's fat, remember, fast, running fast. But
Speaker 1: like at thed I hated when he did all of
Speaker 1: Arnold's lying because because it's just like, there's no reason
Speaker 1: for him to be doing all this. But that's to me,
Speaker 1: was the point as far as if you're comparing to
Speaker 1: the first one, Arnold's the exact opposite. He's trying to
Speaker 1: save people. He even trying to save people that turn
Speaker 1: like that portrayed him, and this guy is not and
Speaker 1: this guy will do anything, And like Taylor said, I
Speaker 1: think he likes that, enjoys it. I think that's why
Speaker 1: at the end of the movie, it finally weighs on
Speaker 1: of Okay, I can't I'm no better than these monsters
Speaker 1: if I don't go back and try and save these
Speaker 1: two people. Obviously, to for Grace is not worth saving
Speaker 1: when he gets there, but he didn't know that at
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like Adrian's Bruti's character is more.
Speaker 4: Like what's the word. I'm looking for more relatable.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I so.
Speaker 1: Jessica lead the team and she can. Yeah, the sociopaths relatable,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that one.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's just because I am weak and
Speaker 2: not trained in shooting guns. But you know, if someone
Speaker 2: is about to be killed, I'm like, I can't help you.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be any faster or stronger than
Speaker 2: you are better aiming.
Speaker 1: That's different because you're not Yeah, but you're not this Like,
Speaker 1: this guy is highly trained. Yeah, he's fast, he's highly trained,
Speaker 1: he's smart, he has the skills to help people potentially survive,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't, you know, till the very end he does.
Speaker 1: But there's a there's a or even though it's not
Speaker 1: even that, it's just that he shows no remorse for
Speaker 1: the people.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: That's where it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'd be sad that I had to
Speaker 2: walk away from the guy in the field that's dying.
Speaker 2: You know, I wouldn't go save him. So I'm no
Speaker 2: better in that sense, but I would be like, well,
Speaker 2: this kind of sucks.
Speaker 11: But you know, all of them, but all of them
Speaker 11: are they walk away and have Isabelle or shoot him,
Speaker 11: you know.
Speaker 1: Like at least she had the idea shoot the guy
Speaker 1: and put him out of his misery. So they're all cowardly.
Speaker 2: The only why did she shoot him in the back though,
Speaker 2: like at least shoot him in the head. I thought, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, like, come on, though, I feel I think one.
Speaker 1: I think I think a sniper rifle of the hot
Speaker 1: heart's gonna kill you, like I'm gonna. I don't want
Speaker 1: to search on Google because Canadian govern might it might
Speaker 1: be all over me. But I think a sniper rifle
Speaker 1: to the heart, I think it's gonna liquify your heart
Speaker 1: really fast.
Speaker 4: The obviously it didn't.
Speaker 1: The only yea, he was dead.
Speaker 3: So the only two people I would put like consciousness
Speaker 3: and he didn't know he was.
Speaker 4: Dead there, Jessica, I said, I know, he.
Speaker 1: Said, no, you're trying to fight. It's like, no, he's
Speaker 1: dead there.
Speaker 3: The only two people with a consciousness that I would
Speaker 3: attribute to in this film would be Nikolai and then Isabella,
Speaker 3: because again they are the two soldiers for their country, right.
Speaker 1: And they make it seem like tofa Grace has that,
Speaker 1: but he really doesn't. You know, they can't I love
Speaker 1: that twist with that character that seems like the nice guy,
Speaker 1: and when you watch the first time, I feel like
Speaker 1: he's the doctor and doctor Dodgeball because Okay, all these
Speaker 1: people are not criminals, but they've done some short things,
Speaker 1: but at least are just assassin's killers, criminals all those things,
Speaker 1: and then he has nothing right, he has kids, he's
Speaker 1: a surgeon, so you just I always when I watched
Speaker 1: the first time, I took guys, okay, it's he's the doctor.
Speaker 1: He's there like, Okay, this guy's gonna help you out
Speaker 1: if you're hurt it all. But really he's there because again,
Speaker 1: do I think the Predator is watching like a Dexter
Speaker 1: Morgan and he's gonna like cannap him. No, I think
Speaker 1: that like some of these are stretches of like what
Speaker 1: they've been falling him for weeks and find has like
Speaker 1: secret killings like no, like you're telling the Predator has.
Speaker 5: Taken out a couple couple of predators himself, no predator
Speaker 5: and a.
Speaker 3: Ship that just watches like stand by because it's.
Speaker 1: The tree guy. That's not his job.
Speaker 6: The guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they just they pluck him out and
Speaker 3: just drop on the planet for the main hunters to
Speaker 3: go in.
Speaker 1: I just told a few him as like an elite killer.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: That's the thing where it's just like, I don't think
Speaker 1: it would be the worst preader time, because Eve, when
Speaker 1: COVID grads like I'm one of you, there's multiply these
Speaker 1: killers that go to toe hurt the predators take him out
Speaker 1: tofa Christ doesn't do that at all. We didn't evenet
Speaker 1: to see him use his smarts on a predator. Sure
Speaker 1: he takes out Isabelle for a second, but like he's
Speaker 1: he's useless fighting a predator. So that's where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this guy and even all thing Goggins to me is
Speaker 1: a stretch, is like an elite hunter the predator would
Speaker 1: want to go against as what we've seen in the
Speaker 1: other movies. Yeah, I just I don't see it as
Speaker 1: far as yeah, these guys are the ones you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I do want to say though, because even Fishburne
Speaker 2: says he's been there for you know, the seven seasons.
Speaker 4: In each season say they drop seven people.
Speaker 2: You know, at some point they got to start spreading
Speaker 2: out who they're picking and who they're dropping. They can't
Speaker 2: just do merks every single time.
Speaker 4: It's boring.
Speaker 2: It doesn't give them any change of skill or any
Speaker 2: type of thrill.
Speaker 4: At some degree, it's just.
Speaker 3: What they've done for goodness, because like he yeah, he
Speaker 3: brought in like America's most wanted guy, our fbis most
Speaker 3: wanted and then what is what happens? Like he shoots
Speaker 3: them in the back with his plasma caster, thinking he
Speaker 3: got him, and then all of a sudden, like surprise,
Speaker 3: he's at He's at a vesta in there. So it's
Speaker 3: the changing of the tactics. Okay, Like, I gotta take
Speaker 3: that into account next time, because this guy did this
Speaker 3: thing which I didn't suspect that could have been an option. Yeah, fine,
Speaker 3: ripped out because he was fucking pissed at him.
Speaker 1: But I'm fine with it for the fun of the movie.
Speaker 1: It's just because every other predator, like most of our
Speaker 1: army guys, soldier guys, you know, the most you could
Speaker 1: kind of skirt to is like Danny or yeah, Danny
Speaker 1: Glover of the cop But still it's like he is
Speaker 1: in a he's in a fucking war zone and predator too.
Speaker 1: That's no regular Los Angeles, that's Los Angeles under war.
Speaker 1: So that's what it's like every other time they're picking
Speaker 1: those type.
Speaker 3: Of one was a doctor in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1: That was he actually no, Oh, that explains it if
Speaker 1: he wasn't at Los Angeles, which is weird because like
Speaker 1: I never knew this because I was looking up stuff her.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you knew that. This actually still takes place
Speaker 1: after the Predator and the Cannon, which is really weird.
Speaker 1: It's like the Predator happens and then the Predators happens.
Speaker 1: Technically this is like the last in the canon right now.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I didn't actually like look that
Speaker 3: far and everything after like Predator, I just anthology. I
Speaker 3: haven't really placed it all the time, especially because this
Speaker 3: hasn't had any like succession to it. Really, it's just
Speaker 3: kind of stood in its own point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess why would you put this one as anthology, because,
Speaker 1: like they, it could easily be a sequel. It doesn't
Speaker 1: hurt the first one. They just allude to the first
Speaker 1: move like, hey, this guy survived and he talked about
Speaker 1: this alien.
Speaker 3: He doesn't anthology just because like they all all these films,
Speaker 3: they always just seem to reference the first movie. They
Speaker 3: don't seem to the best one. If it was like
Speaker 3: a direct in line sequel, but like, okay, we got
Speaker 3: Arnold back. You know, we got the whole, the whole,
Speaker 3: not the whole career.
Speaker 1: That's supposedly who they wanted for Fishburne's character.
Speaker 3: But because he was like that and Danny Glover was
Speaker 3: the other I believe.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, those were the two. I don't know why
Speaker 1: Danny Glover didn't do it, but like Arnold, Arnold he
Speaker 1: was in office and that that sucks because I think
Speaker 1: that would have been a prom Now, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: wanted the route we went with Fishburne's characters, like he's
Speaker 1: kind of a coward, like oh six months six mouths,
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't want that. But like if you were
Speaker 1: to put Arnold back in here and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the guy that survived these seasons, that to
Speaker 1: me would make sense.
Speaker 5: The predator in the tree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I actually don't think they would have made
Speaker 1: him the way Fisherman was. They got Arnold back, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately he was in office, and I hope, I hope,
Speaker 1: I hope that preyed as well and we get more
Speaker 1: predator and Arnold's the last He's the last piece we
Speaker 1: got to get him back one more time before he
Speaker 1: passes away. You know, they brought him back for five
Speaker 1: fucking times and Terminator. It's time to get Predator now,
Speaker 1: you know, So no kidding, fucking ay man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to just say that because I've never
Speaker 2: seen the first one. It actually didn't click to me
Speaker 2: until right now that that line about someone in the
Speaker 2: jungle surviving being the only survivor, I didn't even click
Speaker 2: that that was actually about.
Speaker 4: The first movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: Just like, oh, that's kind of a weird thing to
Speaker 2: mention without any other talk about.
Speaker 4: Moops.
Speaker 8: It almost like.
Speaker 3: There's a movie before this, two movies.
Speaker 1: It's good, Yeah, but they don't even talk about the
Speaker 1: second one. They're like, oh, there's this guy who got
Speaker 1: in our ye he kind of hijacked it.
Speaker 3: This is regular yeah, mutilations.
Speaker 2: Technically there's four movies before this one coming out here Taylor,
Speaker 2: because Travis said this is the last one, and then
Speaker 2: a VP.
Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, a VP, so it'd be uh, six movies.
Speaker 3: This would be the seventh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still waiting for We're still waiting for the eighth, right, Taylor,
Speaker 1: still still wing for the three? No I I you know,
Speaker 1: what now with crossovers so big and everything like that,
Speaker 1: I could see him one day taking another shot at
Speaker 1: it a little ways off, but I still think they
Speaker 1: could because people want to see that. So what about
Speaker 1: you too, Who do you want to talk about in
Speaker 1: the group we talked about, I guess you didn't you
Speaker 1: talk a little about roy So if there's anything more
Speaker 1: you want to add, but if not, you can move
Speaker 1: us along to someone else.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's just as the moment he got into
Speaker 3: the the game Preserve, it was just yeah, I was
Speaker 3: just jazzing with him. It was like, this guy's just
Speaker 3: balls to the wall, like mean, lean killing machine and
Speaker 3: was totally eating it up.
Speaker 1: And uh, that's what he's saying them, I'm a leaving
Speaker 1: kill machine and fuck y'all.
Speaker 3: I just like that he stood on his own and
Speaker 3: he was just trying to get a better layer of
Speaker 3: the land. And all these other characters that just some
Speaker 3: of them become too trusting, But with Royce, it was
Speaker 3: just you know, let's keep moving, let's head her header
Speaker 3: and his bell's like you want to see something fucked up,
Speaker 3: and and then he's like dish out facts like the
Speaker 3: suns haven't moved an inch really since we got here
Speaker 3: and the compass thing was beenning all fucked up too,
Speaker 3: So yeah, I like his character a lot.
Speaker 1: Where do you rank him as far as like the
Speaker 1: leads who like as far as you got Dan Glover,
Speaker 1: you got you got boyd Holbrook from The Predator, you
Speaker 1: got Arnold, you got Royce? You know, not a VP,
Speaker 1: because here.
Speaker 3: Arnold is definitely my number one. Yeah, and I would
Speaker 3: probably put Royce. Ah, I could see him sneaking in
Speaker 3: number two, and then Danny Glover and then yeah, obviously
Speaker 3: a Chap from the Predator is dead last.
Speaker 1: I don't see where Amber mind Hunter comes in for
Speaker 1: prey because I think she's gonna be high.
Speaker 3: So oh, I'm counting on it. I'm just getting super
Speaker 3: jazz like. Yeah, anyways, say that for the of you, who.
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about? Next to Taylor?
Speaker 5: He looks he's pretty big. Look at that, he looks
Speaker 5: pretty big.
Speaker 3: He's got some going on.
Speaker 1: No, he's very okay, just get the arms. He skipped
Speaker 1: arm day, the biggest one every day. Man, He's just
Speaker 1: well no, that's why I said he has like a
Speaker 1: runner's body. He's fast, right, he's fast. No, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's not in good shape. I'm just saying that,
Speaker 1: like we're just talking about him compared to Arnold and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I just feel like they just had
Speaker 1: to oil him up, like anytime he's walking around there,
Speaker 1: like oiling his arms to make him look very like
Speaker 1: he could just like a couple more days, like a
Speaker 1: couple more arm days, look a bit more posted. But
Speaker 1: he's got more meals.
Speaker 5: Probably skipped a couple of meals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to say I applaud his effort
Speaker 3: to put the mud on, but it really did funk
Speaker 3: all when you think about it. He barely put in
Speaker 3: a mud on him. But I think he just did
Speaker 3: it because Isabelle said us mud he was, you're.
Speaker 5: Supposed to put all over your body, just like.
Speaker 1: The predators ship. Oh and then like I'm joking, it
Speaker 1: could have been mud, you fool, but no, like I
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't understand, like the first one. Arnold
Speaker 1: figures that out right that you put mud on him.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if this because the berserk wing,
Speaker 1: but you put mud, you can't be tracked. He put
Speaker 1: mud on something, go mate, and you he sees the
Speaker 1: entire outline it's like you did this wrong, sir, Like
Speaker 1: something's going on here and that's I know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that doesn't make sense. Arnold was fucking dripping in
Speaker 1: mud in the first one, and he just looks like
Speaker 1: he rolled around a little bit like a kid. But
Speaker 1: do you think, Tay, that's me just because the berserk one,
Speaker 1: Like when he hit the fire, that did more than
Speaker 1: the mud. Because the mud, Arnold, you can't see all this.
Speaker 1: You could, you could easily shoot him over for.
Speaker 3: Him, I think it was just him pulling every ace
Speaker 3: he had up his sleeve, a horrible attempt at just
Speaker 3: getting in the mud. And then yeah, the fire was
Speaker 3: the main kicker for him. Just a high the heat signature.
Speaker 5: So that works that flash bang for the predator.
Speaker 1: I just love when he just kept running by the
Speaker 1: predator and you just see like Roy's like scurry right,
Speaker 1: like a little mouse. He's fast fast.
Speaker 2: Well you have to think though, that if this one
Speaker 2: is supposed to be so far and they've done all
Speaker 2: these thinks of practice and learn and change, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 2: when your entire clan is killed out by a guy
Speaker 2: covered in mud, you figure out how to not have
Speaker 2: your sensors not pick up a guy covered in mud.
Speaker 3: Say that again.
Speaker 1: Say that riddle again.
Speaker 2: So the first one, the predators were all killed by
Speaker 2: a guy covered in mud.
Speaker 1: Just just one. Like in the very it's just one predator,
Speaker 1: just oneator, Arnold killed their ship hands mud. So, Jessica,
Speaker 1: in the first one, there's only one predator that goes
Speaker 1: on Earth anytime, so it's just the one that he outsmarts.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So in this one they talk about how every season
Speaker 2: they take things and learn and train. So you would think, obviously,
Speaker 2: when the one predator is killed by a guy covered
Speaker 2: in mud, they learn and change their sensors to be
Speaker 2: able to pick up guys covered in mud. I thought,
Speaker 2: was my logic about why this didn't work?
Speaker 1: Was it the mask on or was it just his face?
Speaker 1: I thought it was the predator's open face when he
Speaker 1: was looking at.
Speaker 3: The mask is still on at this point, because the
Speaker 3: conclusive way he finds him is because he flips the
Speaker 3: sensors to detect heart beats. It detects where his heart
Speaker 3: beats coming from. But answer your question, Jessica, they do
Speaker 3: adapt actually, because in Predator Too, you learn that they
Speaker 3: have a way of seeing. They didn't use mud, but
Speaker 3: they use these suits that block the heat coming off
Speaker 3: of their bodies, and they had lights that were using
Speaker 3: ultraviolet lights. They weren't putting out heat as well, so
Speaker 3: no heat was put out. But the predator caught onto
Speaker 3: something going on and changed through like a whole cycle
Speaker 3: of different visions and was able to see ultraviot a
Speaker 3: light coming from the lights, and was able to see
Speaker 3: where they were. So they do have that.
Speaker 1: What I hit about Royce is that he not hate
Speaker 1: but's just so funny. And he tries to slow down
Speaker 1: his heartbeat and it does nothing. The predator still just
Speaker 1: shoots away. He's like fuck, Like he just let's take
Speaker 1: another ad break and then Tyror has to tell us
Speaker 1: who we're going next. Will be right back and we're
Speaker 1: back to here. Who's next?
Speaker 3: I want to talk about Marshaw Lee here, the guy
Speaker 3: that got picked for Blade. This is the role that
Speaker 3: I think we need to get him in here.
Speaker 1: That is not how that happened. Remember he went in
Speaker 1: and said I want to be Blade, and Kim Fight
Speaker 1: was like, yes, you're gonna be Blade. So he was
Speaker 1: not picked. He chose to play Blade that two time
Speaker 1: Academy Award winner Moonlight, not.
Speaker 5: Because for Predators.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was picked for Predators.
Speaker 3: Uh, But yeah, I start with his character because right
Speaker 3: when we meet him, he's just fighting, like Walter, just
Speaker 3: just beating the ship of each other and Walter Walton, Walton,
Speaker 3: Walton Walton. Yeah, he's just kicking the ship out of
Speaker 3: each other. And I am disappointed that he does get
Speaker 3: knocked out pretty quick early on, knocked out as quick
Speaker 3: as Danny Treo. But he he's just I believe he's
Speaker 3: in the camp and he's standing there and they're like
Speaker 3: fighting everything, and then all of a sudden, the spears
Speaker 3: just come up, and yeah, it just gets booby trapped.
Speaker 3: So I think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Liked his character. It was unfortunate the way it ended.
Speaker 6: This was definitely a first of all, I did not
Speaker 6: realize it was Marsha Ali, and then I didn't really
Speaker 6: I could not remember his character and like what relevance
Speaker 6: he had and what happened to him, and it probably
Speaker 6: should have been a bad warning that his fate was
Speaker 6: not gonna end well.
Speaker 5: And yeah, a bit of a.
Speaker 6: Bitch death, you know, Like I know it's not his
Speaker 6: choice to die by a trap, but I would have
Speaker 6: preferred him to get his just full spine ripped out
Speaker 6: by the predator.
Speaker 5: That's a little bit more of an honorable death.
Speaker 6: I would say, yeah, I think you always go yeah,
Speaker 6: I think so.
Speaker 5: It'd probably be pretty damn not shot after.
Speaker 3: The heart spine ripped out.
Speaker 6: By like a predator, though, because like he would do
Speaker 6: in the one motion where it's like a human doing it,
Speaker 6: it'd probably be messy.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't die.
Speaker 1: Right away a couple of tries. He's just like, I
Speaker 1: can't rip it out predator.
Speaker 6: Those seven feet tall, you know, like five hundred pounds,
Speaker 6: they could probably.
Speaker 1: No, there's always one character that has to die this
Speaker 1: way in these group situations, right, it's like the guy
Speaker 1: and saw too that tries the key in the door
Speaker 1: and just gets shot right away. Like, oh luckily that
Speaker 1: guy sucks. But this is hershaw Lee. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: had forgot because I forgot he was in there. It's
Speaker 1: like I said, this was before he was Marshall l.
Speaker 1: E one of the greatest actors of all time. So
Speaker 1: it's just like Materia said that, like oh shit, or
Speaker 1: I can't remember who put in the chain at first
Speaker 1: with oh Jesus, I didn't even know that and I
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna go pretty soon, just because again
Speaker 1: I had no memory of him. I remember Walton Goggins
Speaker 1: because I love him from Justified, but uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: him and Walton Goggins, I think they had a good
Speaker 1: back and forth and I would have liked to see
Speaker 1: play out a bit more. I thought, what they're trying
Speaker 1: and I feel like that that they're kind of insinuating that,
Speaker 1: you know, Walton Goggins was a little, if not just
Speaker 1: blatantly racist, and I thought they were maybe gonna try
Speaker 1: and put their differences aside the in life and death situations,
Speaker 1: and they kind of did, because Walton Goggins was like,
Speaker 1: oh well that was yesterday, but they just like they
Speaker 1: killed that storyline really quickly. So I thought he was
Speaker 1: good for what he was in. He was one of
Speaker 1: the first ones to kind of start noticing some things
Speaker 1: and whatnot. But uh yeah, definitely obviously didn't use him
Speaker 1: to what the potential he could be down the line,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: So yeah, absolutely, I liked everything like around his character.
Speaker 6: With the Walton Goggins dynamic, I agree that it it's
Speaker 6: like they showed us another layer beneath that onion, but
Speaker 6: they just didn't peel it back. You know, maybe that's
Speaker 6: the best way to describe it, because.
Speaker 1: And I guarantee there's there's some maybe note or they
Speaker 1: might have said like, hey, I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: the place. I don't know if we want you to
Speaker 1: tackle that. In a predator movie, people are just here
Speaker 1: for action and stuff like that, So it felt like
Speaker 1: they wanted to give like a little bit of that,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, we don't go too far. We don't
Speaker 1: want to make this too like politically motivated. But I
Speaker 1: think they would at least had some sort of it.
Speaker 1: I guess it's it's kind of funny because it's similar
Speaker 1: to what Walton Goggins is in Hateful eight, right, Like
Speaker 1: that's like the same way with him and Samuel Jackson's
Speaker 1: I guess maybe I'm just pitching that because I've seen
Speaker 1: it done well in a movie that happens about I
Speaker 1: don't know what's nine years later and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but alast didn't happen he.
Speaker 3: Uh guess not to speak too with Walton where he's like,
Speaker 3: give me a gun, come on, man, you got two
Speaker 3: fucking guns, and he just throws the little shive up
Speaker 3: on Ali's like neck or whatever, and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is that Machetti that has the two guns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was so funny because he throws a
Speaker 1: knife on Ali's neck, but then Ali just like slowly
Speaker 1: moves the gun up to his like, why didn't you know?
Speaker 1: Like this what I mean, this guy's not Eleak Killer.
Speaker 1: He didn't even know. I didn't know Oli was moving
Speaker 1: a fucking gun to his head and he's like, oh whatever, dude.
Speaker 1: Walden Gongs did not deserve to be here. A great actor,
Speaker 1: but the character got taken out pretty easily too, Like
Speaker 1: I just he was just a guy they wanted in
Speaker 1: a prison jump suit. Yeah, and that's the and yeah,
Speaker 1: all my sister, all his stuff. Does it just for me?
Speaker 1: Is obviously all cringe stuff and stuff that definitely, I
Speaker 1: guess in twenty ten, But there's that. There was the
Speaker 1: rape and time jokes and stuff like all these things
Speaker 1: where it's just like it's just for shock value. And
Speaker 1: it sucks because I like Walton Goggin, so like he's
Speaker 1: delivering these lines as well as he can, but they don't.
Speaker 1: They just don't age well and you're just like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Like it was such a different air already
Speaker 1: at that point, and again you could have some character
Speaker 1: talking about these things, but they used them in like
Speaker 1: a comedic like that's what I think, and Grace is like, yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: it's that time, and then he moves away. So it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a strange choice, but.
Speaker 6: You feel like his character was really meant to signify that,
Speaker 6: like all these people that were sent here like aren't
Speaker 6: actually good people.
Speaker 5: Like they're actually just piece of shit.
Speaker 6: Because like if you don't have him, like without the
Speaker 6: Tilford Grace like plot twist, I feel like you could
Speaker 6: really just say that these guys are just like they're
Speaker 6: just good army dudes, Like they weren't sent here on
Speaker 6: any punishment or anything like that. Is that even mentioned
Speaker 6: in the movie that they were actually sent here on
Speaker 6: a punishment or.
Speaker 1: It's just no, I think they're well and I could
Speaker 1: say because the other like the Yukuz guy's probably not
Speaker 1: a good guy either, right, he's part of he he
Speaker 1: used to he doesn't anymore, didn't say a word until
Speaker 1: the very end of this movie. Well not and he
Speaker 1: didn't make it at the end, but you know, just
Speaker 1: anything on the honorable death, anything to say on those
Speaker 1: two characters.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have no idea who Alie is. You
Speaker 2: guys talk about what did.
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I know that much.
Speaker 2: Now what I mean Travis is calling one of the
Speaker 2: greatest actors of all time, and I'm looking no idea.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen he.
Speaker 1: Was, and he's one more oscar away from tying the record.
Speaker 1: That man could probably break the record too well.
Speaker 4: Apparently he was Uncle Aaron from Spider Verse, So look
Speaker 4: at that.
Speaker 2: I know one.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 2: Oh he was in Madden and at f L eighteen
Speaker 2: long shout, good good.
Speaker 1: That really jumped start his career. He's the next Blade.
Speaker 1: If you haven't heard that, he's the next Blade.
Speaker 2: I did see that on TB, so I got that
Speaker 2: at least, And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: He went into He told Disney and Figgymorrow that he
Speaker 1: wanted a meeting. They sat down, he told he want
Speaker 1: to play and this guy no, and then five He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: You're gonna play Blade. So that's the power Alley has.
Speaker 1: He's too good.
Speaker 5: If I can do that, I've never tried, So maybe.
Speaker 1: Who would you go for? Though you got know convincing
Speaker 1: you can't do Peter Parker.
Speaker 5: I know I'll do some thinking like I got.
Speaker 1: Wolverine in the bag. I'm sure, I'm Canadian. I get
Speaker 1: you absolutely, I'll show him the pictures. You're like, look,
Speaker 1: I've been looking for you my whole life.
Speaker 5: Sorry, please don't send us yours.
Speaker 4: Taylor said it in those photos of him with a
Speaker 4: predator mask.
Speaker 1: Viggy, I give you the next predator. Let me know,
Speaker 1: put me in prey too. You're like, you got a
Speaker 1: bulk up man.
Speaker 2: Uh So, I do think though with his death, so
Speaker 2: the whole point of what Adrian did his character Royce
Speaker 2: uh to lure them out and the fact that he
Speaker 2: like dies in this trap and then no one really
Speaker 2: does anything. You would think they would, least, you know,
Speaker 2: because he was just standing there and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: the spears just like go out right like there was movement,
Speaker 2: So you would think you would fire towards him, like
Speaker 2: sorry to kill him, but fire your guns at him,
Speaker 2: because in theory, something had to activate those traps or
Speaker 2: be around him for those.
Speaker 3: Probably just from the guy in the tree.
Speaker 4: That must be all back to that best predator in
Speaker 4: the tree.
Speaker 6: I like to just think he like stepped on like
Speaker 6: a like a platform, you know, like a very like
Speaker 6: cheesy like dungeon platform where it's like a, yeah, he
Speaker 6: just stepped on twig and yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: It's probably without the predator on the Totem was yelling
Speaker 3: out because when they nudged me started freaking out.
Speaker 1: He's like, don't step back there, You're gonna win, academy ward,
Speaker 1: don't step on there.
Speaker 5: He's actually just like a really nice That's why he
Speaker 5: was the pacifist.
Speaker 3: He's baiting you.
Speaker 1: You're a trap.
Speaker 5: It's just their language. It seems so aggressive.
Speaker 2: That's why he hung up because he's a little wants
Speaker 2: to save people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he tied himself to the tree because they're gonna.
Speaker 1: I will fight no more, no more danger for me.
Speaker 5: Don't let me down. Don't let down.
Speaker 2: But okay, well, well we'll pretend he stepped on a
Speaker 2: little platform and that nullifies that. But I did like
Speaker 2: the kind of one real line that he has where
Speaker 2: you know, oh, they took one, injured him, make him bleed,
Speaker 2: make him call out for help, and then kill all
Speaker 2: those who come to help him.
Speaker 4: I know, because I've done that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: It really kind of gives that background to what a
Speaker 2: piece of crap character he is too.
Speaker 4: So other than that, don't really remember many lines from him.
Speaker 3: You have the biggest trophies, you command the most respect.
Speaker 2: It's nice and and he was the one that said
Speaker 2: stay away from that guy about good period.
Speaker 4: So and then yeah, just to talk about stands.
Speaker 2: I as cringey as they were, I still laughed at
Speaker 2: his whole calm.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like a shock factor thing, right, You're
Speaker 6: just not expecting him to say that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna rape so many fine pitches? Oh what time
Speaker 4: is it?
Speaker 2: Five o'clock? Like I was just like, holy crap, how
Speaker 2: did we get away.
Speaker 4: With this in twenty ten?
Speaker 2: Like I guess this movie is rated R, but it
Speaker 2: was definitely not expected. I don't know what he's from
Speaker 2: as well. He's another person that meant nothing to me.
Speaker 2: So Jangle and change never finished it.
Speaker 3: You never Oh no, god, let's let's move forward.
Speaker 1: Let's move forward.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say one last thing on ma Hershali's character.
Speaker 6: I liked how Heye had a similar moment too. Oh
Speaker 6: my gosh, forgot his name. Now for the first Preyder
Speaker 6: when he's just kind of like seen something in the
Speaker 6: trees and then he's just like locking eyes, I feel
Speaker 6: like I just I love those moments in Preder movies
Speaker 6: when someone like kind of thinks that they that they
Speaker 6: see something in the trees but nothing happens.
Speaker 3: But you're afraid of both bullshit, you're afraid of know.
Speaker 6: No, man, oh that age just like fine wine.
Speaker 1: Uh uh yeah. I feel like it has tub with
Speaker 1: the acuzic. I feel like that's right up your alley,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Oh, man, before we change, I know where I know
Speaker 2: this guy from. I've seen one thing. He was the
Speaker 2: transgender prostitute in Sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as soon as like they're snooping through all the
Speaker 3: preader stuff or all the like the salvage stuff, I
Speaker 3: guess I should say, and he finds that samurai sword.
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, it's just it's fantastic. And when he's in
Speaker 3: that moment and like they play that Predator score again,
Speaker 3: but this time they add like a a twist to it.
Speaker 3: It's it's just I don't even know the name of
Speaker 3: the instrument. It was like I had like a flute
Speaker 3: component to it or something like that, and it was
Speaker 3: just like, Oh, what's the funny some.
Speaker 1: Guy, But it was just so good.
Speaker 3: And then he just yeah, he turns like, oh you guys,
Speaker 3: get out here. Any turns around, he just got the sword.
Speaker 3: You stand there, And then I believe this was the
Speaker 3: Falconer Predator that came out to play here. And yeah,
Speaker 3: just that that whole scene was just super cool because
Speaker 3: the preador obviously was like big respects like, oh fuck, Bud,
Speaker 3: it's gonna whip the sword out, I'll honor that, and
Speaker 3: just went to tango and with each other and it
Speaker 3: was just such a cool scene. I love the choreography
Speaker 3: of that and everything, and yeah, god damn, it's just
Speaker 3: super cool just to embrace this, like I'm sure another
Speaker 3: Predator is gonna like soup on down and be like,
Speaker 3: oh man, we got this fucking dead human here and
Speaker 3: we got our dead bro over here. Man, some fucking
Speaker 3: wild shit occurred here. What did you guys think?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, this Taylor, this was specifically like a boss
Speaker 6: in that app in that Predator app.
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember it.
Speaker 6: I remember I remember because he kicked my ass so
Speaker 6: many times in the tall grass and everything. But yeah,
Speaker 6: like just like the scenery and everything, it's it's fantastic.
Speaker 6: It's I feel like now on the on the second rewatch,
Speaker 6: I it's just kind of like random of it.
Speaker 5: You just have this Zikuza guy.
Speaker 6: He finds this like ancient samurai sword and then he
Speaker 6: just has like a samurai duel in like the tall grass.
Speaker 5: It's just like, Okay, are we really doing this right now?
Speaker 5: It's like why not.
Speaker 6: We're in a predator hunting ground. Like this is no
Speaker 6: pun intended there, but like this is just yeah, like
Speaker 6: like a fun a fun scene to have. I liked
Speaker 6: the epic moment when he when he slashed it. I
Speaker 6: feel like, again, those moments could be seen cheesy and
Speaker 6: I'm I I like understand they could be seen cheesy,
Speaker 6: but I still really appreciated it. So yeah, mask, it's
Speaker 6: like a it's like a paintball mask.
Speaker 3: To get that, I'd rock that in paint I'll be
Speaker 3: heavy as fuck, but yeah, I love Yeah.
Speaker 6: Doesn't he has a like a shoulder cannon though that
Speaker 6: would have been pretty No, he's comatic if he's shoulder
Speaker 6: cannon the Yukuza Jones style.
Speaker 3: He's got the drone that he had on his shoulder, right,
Speaker 3: so that's the thing that flies like scopes out the
Speaker 3: area and everything.
Speaker 1: But get a shoulder cannon for paintball in.
Speaker 3: Canada at least like the oh he takes his shoes
Speaker 3: off too earlier on, Like that's a bold play. I
Speaker 3: keep the shoes on if you could.
Speaker 5: But yeah, steps on a twig, steps.
Speaker 1: On predator ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, what'd you.
Speaker 6: Guys with Tilford Grace's poisonous fucking plants? There's lots of those.
Speaker 1: I liked him for the fight scene. That's about it.
Speaker 1: His character doesn't do much else. He was just a
Speaker 1: quiet one and just I don't know. I think he
Speaker 1: could have died a little bit worn too, but that's
Speaker 1: not exactly what I need this movie to do. I
Speaker 1: think it's scratches most itches I have, Like I'm looking
Speaker 1: for a good action time on the venture friends and stuff.
Speaker 1: I feel like you almost could have led with this
Speaker 1: or had him do this earlier and get killed. But
Speaker 1: I still liked the scene nonetheless, and it was a
Speaker 1: it was a cool showdown, and I'm glad he uh
Speaker 1: he got the killed. He had to sacrifice him subject
Speaker 1: at the kill, but he's still got it. So honorable death, yep,
Speaker 1: honorable death. Hello, waits anything else on this guy or
Speaker 1: anyone you like?
Speaker 3: Samuraise?
Speaker 2: I Yeah, I mean it's kind of hard to have
Speaker 2: much feeling to the character when, like he said, he
Speaker 2: doesn't say much. I don't think that you can really
Speaker 2: kill him off earlier though, with him being a kill
Speaker 2: for the predator. We're sorry, like how he killed a predator.
Speaker 2: If you kill him off earlier, then you'd lose that.
Speaker 2: I guess if you change it and have put for
Speaker 2: Grace in that position instead, Danny Trio or something like that, right,
Speaker 2: have him die and said whatever it is. I think
Speaker 2: either way, you're gonna have someone somewhere being a character
Speaker 2: that doesn't have emotion. You can't have everyone talking.
Speaker 4: All the time.
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily think the fight was all that cool
Speaker 2: in the sense that I don't know if a guy
Speaker 2: comes at me with a sword and I've got a gun,
Speaker 2: that's not the point.
Speaker 1: Though he wants to go mono amano. They're all about
Speaker 1: pride and win the fight, right, So that's why he
Speaker 1: wants to test himself. And he lost that test.
Speaker 4: They both lost that test.
Speaker 3: That's a tie and true I would get I mean,
Speaker 3: he did die, but he definitely stood like he held
Speaker 3: his ground, stood there and let the prader's body collapse first.
Speaker 3: So if he wins, that.
Speaker 1: For sure No, I don't know. I think you. I
Speaker 1: think you either both got the loss or you both
Speaker 1: got the win. You know, because if your goal was
Speaker 1: to kill the other guy, technically you both won, you know.
Speaker 1: So if your goal was to survive, they both lost.
Speaker 3: He probably stepped one of those poisonous.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the tech paralyzed you in the second he
Speaker 6: was in the tall grass, just like wait to get
Speaker 6: his ankle.
Speaker 1: Kept your shoes on, bitch. And who else have you
Speaker 1: to about Isabelle? I like Isabelle. She's the perfect just
Speaker 1: like good compass, sneering everybody. She's the hero of the story.
Speaker 1: It's not really Roy. It's like, obviously he's all over
Speaker 1: the posters everything like that too. But and I guess
Speaker 1: he's kind of a protagonist, but to me, not really.
Speaker 1: She's the more interesting one. And she's the one that,
Speaker 1: at least for myself, I relate more to because she's
Speaker 1: saving the innocent people or you know, trying to save
Speaker 1: people and trying to do what's right and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: And you're definitely not as accurate as her. I've seen
Speaker 5: your your kick camps.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's fine. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: in a real life situation, you know, I probably still
Speaker 1: have to sacrifice you guys, you know, and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Now I'm joking, but no, I mean in the sense of,
Speaker 1: you know, that's a good thing in call Duty you
Speaker 1: can come right back. And Predator not so much. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the character. You know, she turns Royce over.
Speaker 1: She has some you know, good dialogue scenes like nothing
Speaker 1: out of this world crazy. It's not a super well
Speaker 1: written movie as far as like line dialogue, what you're
Speaker 1: gonna remember in a week from now, But I liked
Speaker 1: her enough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she was.
Speaker 6: She was great for what they need are or needed
Speaker 6: the character to be in this movie, because yeah, as
Speaker 6: you mentioned, she's she's guiding the company along like a
Speaker 6: good moral compass, like she seemed to be making the
Speaker 6: right decisions or questioning the weird decisions that Royce would
Speaker 6: make when you know he's being a little little sus leader.
Speaker 6: And yeah, goddamn, she was a sniper. She she's like
Speaker 6: bulls eye, man. She she was hitting every shot. I
Speaker 6: trust in her to watch my back, and I feel.
Speaker 4: Like, what's that she hit a tree one time?
Speaker 6: That is true, but nobody's perfect, so I'll give her
Speaker 6: a pass. And honestly, if she saves me like three
Speaker 6: times and then I die on the fourth, i feel like,
Speaker 6: you know, I'm living on borrow time at that point. Anyway,
Speaker 6: it's like she's saved me three times. So but yeah,
Speaker 6: like I feel like also when she was filling in
Speaker 6: like random stories of like oh, like we have this
Speaker 6: guy that or heard about this guy who's Ernie, like
Speaker 6: he's the one that survived. Like she she fit that
Speaker 6: role good to just have those stories.
Speaker 3: So that was good. She's already blow her brains out too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was okay. You know, a bit of a
Speaker 5: coward's death.
Speaker 1: You're you're there.
Speaker 6: And she's about to activated that quick time event when
Speaker 6: that dog was on him. He was stabbing the ship
Speaker 6: of the dog. Just off herself.
Speaker 1: No, I disagree. If you're coming to me and you're okay,
Speaker 1: no matter what, you're gonna lose in this situation, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna you don't know that what you don't know that,
Speaker 1: but there's a small chance. But to me, I I
Speaker 1: was completely in her camp as far as get mulled
Speaker 1: to death by this dog, maybe taking somewhere and worse
Speaker 1: unto you or just kill yourself and feel probably relatively
Speaker 1: no pain. She made a choice.
Speaker 6: Do you do you go to shoot yourself? Like if
Speaker 6: you're seeing it, it's like one hundred meets.
Speaker 5: I think she was at the right.
Speaker 1: No, she was at the right. That thing was so
Speaker 1: close to her where it looked like there was gonna
Speaker 1: be like that thing was gonna pounce on her. So no,
Speaker 1: I think she made I had that even my notes
Speaker 1: to shut that out, that she made the right call.
Speaker 3: But Walton, though, I mean, yeah, shouts to him. He
Speaker 3: was like close and personal and he was just shanking
Speaker 3: the ship.
Speaker 5: Who sings to live for Walton?
Speaker 3: Did?
Speaker 2: Is he?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I didn't see him alive.
Speaker 3: At the end of the movie and the dog battle
Speaker 3: between the two dogs.
Speaker 1: Her, that's all because trust.
Speaker 3: That's because the predators pulled theirselves up. We're not. If
Speaker 3: we're not, we're going like the full, full, extended scene
Speaker 3: of the movie here, we're talking just that scene of
Speaker 3: the dog's attack. That's it. Then we know Walton survives,
Speaker 3: and then she would have died because she was ready
Speaker 3: to blow her brains.
Speaker 1: Out, or at the same time, those dogs would have
Speaker 1: just kept coming and he would have died eventually.
Speaker 3: He could have kept just stabbing. He wouldn't run out bullets,
Speaker 3: just kept shanking them.
Speaker 1: I think if she ran up on him, he's done.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess he does it inanmo.
Speaker 2: But you know, well she says the same thing at
Speaker 2: the end too, when her and tofur and the pit
Speaker 2: and she's like, don't worry.
Speaker 4: If it comes to it all.
Speaker 1: Everyone, I can kill you, kill you goods.
Speaker 2: So that was actually what I thought you were talking
Speaker 2: about when you were saying her being a coward. And
Speaker 2: in my mind, I agree that why would I let
Speaker 2: them have the like, the honor of killing me. Why
Speaker 2: not just take that away from them. They brought me
Speaker 2: here to have the fun of hunting me. Take that away.
Speaker 2: It's the least I can do.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I agree. I wanted to talk about the
Speaker 1: Russian next because I can't remember why I put this note.
Speaker 1: I just put when the Russian Diyes fire explosion. Some
Speaker 1: guests have put that in there because maybe with some
Speaker 1: bad CG or something. I know, he like, maybe he
Speaker 1: says it's cheesy line or something. But you know, here's
Speaker 1: another kind hearted, soul character that I didn't mind. Poor
Speaker 1: guy sacrificed himself for Tofa Grace, who was a piece
Speaker 1: of shit and everything like that. So that sucks. But
Speaker 1: you know, he had the classic just big old gatling
Speaker 1: mini gun and stuff like that, and we didn't learn
Speaker 1: much of them. He was a softie and he seemed
Speaker 1: like he was one of the nicer soldiers. But unfortunate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he sacrificed the guys.
Speaker 5: The wrong So he's probably done some shade shit.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say too, like mini guns are not
Speaker 6: effective against priners.
Speaker 5: Like every time we see these, we see this weapon
Speaker 5: used in these movies. It does not take out anyone.
Speaker 5: That is so many bullets that dog.
Speaker 3: I was in front of him when he used the minigun,
Speaker 3: but he his accuracy was fucking atrocious. Yeah, and he
Speaker 3: expended so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was like a percent accuracy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: That's luckily like nine in our bullets because we.
Speaker 1: Had the first movie. We thought the first movie was
Speaker 1: bad when they just unloaded that clip and then.
Speaker 5: That's like multiple guns.
Speaker 6: So everybody is just flying, flying, firing into that forest
Speaker 6: on that scene.
Speaker 1: It is, but I just like this one's even worse
Speaker 1: because they just it feels like one goes away, one's dead,
Speaker 1: and they just keep shooting, and then later on I
Speaker 1: just love when he's like, we got load up and
Speaker 1: conserve Ammal. It's like, what happened back there, Royce? What
Speaker 1: were you doing? You know? Anything else?
Speaker 5: In the Russian I don't have much else to add.
Speaker 6: I I liked him throughout the throughout the movie, it
Speaker 6: was I feel like, I don't know, like on the surface,
Speaker 6: you see this big Russian dude with a big gun,
Speaker 6: you just expected to be this like hard ass brute.
Speaker 6: But yeah, he was kind of a softie and he
Speaker 6: was nice to Edwin. Unfortunately, I mean he didn't live
Speaker 6: long enough to see Edwin be a piece of shit.
Speaker 6: But yeah, he he died an honorable man.
Speaker 5: He saves, He saved a.
Speaker 3: Dover race, took his fucking kid's photo too, like Nicola,
Speaker 3: I didn't even ask for it back Psycho.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's what he thought about.
Speaker 3: You know, he used that photo for to bullsh his
Speaker 3: way out. But that's the one thing with Nikolay.
Speaker 1: That like them kids, you're just staying here, buddy.
Speaker 3: When Nikola took that C four and put on his
Speaker 3: chest and like the Prider was like lifting him up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was just he chanted some line in Russian, which
Speaker 3: I don't understand. But then just fucking boom, you got
Speaker 3: the line just.
Speaker 1: Because gottaidled it.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 2: I can't say the Russian line, but it roughly translates
Speaker 2: to what a mug you have as an attempt at
Speaker 2: your one ugly mother?
Speaker 5: No, aug, it's better though, because it's in Russia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in Russian.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a fun thing. Yeah it doesn't. I don't
Speaker 5: hear it and be like, oh wow, you can only.
Speaker 1: Three that's three movies, Arnold.
Speaker 3: That if you're Russian though, and you could translate.
Speaker 1: I can be upset now now every time I watched it,
Speaker 1: I know he's just saying you're one ugly motherfucker, like
Speaker 1: Arnold again, and just you know what makes it even
Speaker 1: worse is Danny Glover said and Predator too as well.
Speaker 1: And now, yeah, I didn't get I've thought about rewatching
Speaker 1: right now, because we're doing these rewatches. I might put
Speaker 1: on for sleep, but at least Predator two had your
Speaker 1: one ugly and that term of the preda one motherfucker.
Speaker 6: The Predator's gonna say it in Russia now, yeah, but yeah, no,
Speaker 6: that's lame.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough then, but yeah, who else we got
Speaker 1: Danny Treo. I got nothing to add. I got nothing
Speaker 1: to add. He's there because Robert Ririgo's boy. He Robertriguez
Speaker 1: uses him in anything, and here he is. I actually
Speaker 1: would prefer him be in the movie more. But that's
Speaker 1: all I have to say on him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I like the scene where he's uses a trap. That's fun.
Speaker 1: And I like the reveal. You think he's alive, but
Speaker 1: if you've watched Predator films before, you know he's not alive.
Speaker 1: You know it's just a trap. But I do like
Speaker 1: she shoots him and he's still like, he help me.
Speaker 1: I would love the multiverse where he's actually still alive
Speaker 1: and he's actually like, help.
Speaker 5: Me shoot him again.
Speaker 1: I'm still alive.
Speaker 3: Hit my heart.
Speaker 1: They just keep missing I got, and he's just a
Speaker 1: whole clipping. I'm just bleeding out. I thought you guys
Speaker 1: were elite hunters.
Speaker 5: She's like right through his arm.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sad way to go, man, that would be terrible.
Speaker 5: Are we ready talking about Nolan?
Speaker 1: Is that too for Grace?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Lawrence seven seas Oh right, okay, said yeah, yeah open.
Speaker 6: I honestly, this was something that I completely forgot about like, honestly,
Speaker 6: I completely forgot about this character. I completely forgot about
Speaker 6: like the switch. So when like the cosplay Predator like
Speaker 6: shows up and then I'm like, what the Like, this
Speaker 6: is like Jurassic Park three, like.
Speaker 5: This is some kids, this is some kid?
Speaker 8: What do you go? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's himn the thing?
Speaker 6: Well, I was meaning to ask too, because, uh, Travis,
Speaker 6: you said that.
Speaker 5: You ordered was it this?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 5: What do I have on screen?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 1: You were talking about Laurence Fishburn's Bad Predator caused by
Speaker 1: weren't you?
Speaker 5: Well, now I'm talking about the one on screen?
Speaker 1: Okay, well there it is. It's the one that you ordered,
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
Speaker 6: They did the one like Laurence Fishburns. Is that the
Speaker 6: one that you got?
Speaker 8: Though? Yes?
Speaker 1: Pretty much?
Speaker 6: Yeah, sounds probably this. It's pretty cool, great, it's yeah,
Speaker 6: that's a great paintball outfit too. But if you're expecting
Speaker 6: this and then you get this, I don't know what. Nonetheless,
Speaker 6: when he showed up and then it was kind of
Speaker 6: exciting because again, like I thought, I knew this movie,
Speaker 6: but I really forgot about this storyline.
Speaker 5: And then.
Speaker 6: When he has this twist though, I I literally laughed
Speaker 6: out loud because like he is just such a kooky
Speaker 6: character already.
Speaker 5: And then he's just like panning the flames.
Speaker 6: And he's talking to his little imaginary friend there and
Speaker 6: forget what he says specifically, because I watched this like
Speaker 6: on the weekend, but man, he got me. He got me,
Speaker 6: like I couldn't take him seriously, it was so ridiculous.
Speaker 6: And he's like scurrying away like he's I don't know,
Speaker 6: a rat in his little rat hole. And then sure
Speaker 6: enough the predator just finds him in the hallway.
Speaker 3: But he's like he's whispering like this is your idea,
Speaker 3: Like six more mousive feet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said that earlier. Six more mouse
Speaker 1: fills six more and he's just like he's just cranking
Speaker 1: the gas up and he gets the fire and stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he just has this little Yeah. Honestly, I liked it
Speaker 1: a lot. It's fun. Lawrence Fishburne. I think it's a
Speaker 1: fun twist as far as Okay, you meet this guy,
Speaker 1: he's like the guy that survived these seasons. He's the
Speaker 1: trusted guy. He brings you and he's give me all
Speaker 1: this information. He seems a little off, but he's still
Speaker 1: like friendly off, so it's like, Okay, we get drusted
Speaker 1: and the turn happens. So it's not a big chunk
Speaker 1: of the film. It's actually a detour that I quite like,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a fun one, and I do
Speaker 1: like that he's just like he says something to the Predator,
Speaker 1: just like I've been waiting for you. You finally Oh. I
Speaker 1: think he says, he finally found me, big dog, and
Speaker 1: then he just blows up, like instant blows him up
Speaker 1: and everything like that. So yeah, I liked the whole segment.
Speaker 6: I will say too, like I did like when he
Speaker 6: was initially like there and then he's just talking really quietly,
Speaker 6: and then he's kind of just like if I can
Speaker 6: hear you, like they can hear you, and then like
Speaker 6: that whole secret now, and then I like when he
Speaker 6: brings them.
Speaker 5: To the base.
Speaker 6: I always like when, like I think that's why I
Speaker 6: like Dassic Park three actually is because there's this like
Speaker 6: chaos going on and there's these little like hideouts like
Speaker 6: hitting away that that's always fun for me.
Speaker 5: So I feel like I like that.
Speaker 6: But then when he just yeah, he did that twist.
Speaker 3: God, people are particular about people touching your ship. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but what do you do, Like, you're just this guy.
Speaker 3: He's badass. He's in preader attack, he rescues you, and
Speaker 3: then he's like, yeah, he's got.
Speaker 5: Like porn omegs like all over his.
Speaker 8: People.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got oh my gosh, he's got female predators
Speaker 6: on his walls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at this one's on.
Speaker 5: That topic, was being to ask you this is cannon.
Speaker 3: Probably specific game, but who decided that there?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Orney Horny Indivision.
Speaker 3: I feel like this is this Mortal Combat related or so.
Speaker 5: I have no idea, but there are predators.
Speaker 1: With Triple d's over here.
Speaker 3: There are I gotta find my Predator documentary and apple
Speaker 3: that Patreon.
Speaker 1: What do you think Aboutlaurence Fishburne.
Speaker 3: Oh, he was freaking awesome googling that did not I
Speaker 3: shouldn't have googled that.
Speaker 8: Come on, he's gonna have that one ready.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Laura's Fishburne.
Speaker 1: His character was it was it was awesome.
Speaker 3: To get that that uh that old school like I've
Speaker 3: been here for such a long time.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: His quirkiness or whatever just was next level, just talking
Speaker 3: to himself and everything like that and doesn't really kick
Speaker 3: in at least until like he locks them in the
Speaker 3: little room with them, and then he starts talking to
Speaker 3: himself and it's like, oh, this guy's kind of fucked up.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's, uh, what are some other lines he has?
Speaker 3: He's like he's like seven seasons and he looks off
Speaker 3: to the wall ten wow. And then he starts talking
Speaker 3: about like the alien ship and he starts laughing at
Speaker 3: his invisible buddy, like, you know, we've been thought before
Speaker 3: about comment during the alien spacecraft and who's gonna fly it?
Speaker 3: And it's just whispering all his ship. But yeah, he
Speaker 3: he It seemed like he was just embracing death in
Speaker 3: that moment talking to Big Dog. I was just ready
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 6: I mean it's probably a relief for him, honestly, Like
Speaker 6: that's not much living, you know, like that where does
Speaker 6: he ship?
Speaker 5: He's probably just shipping by.
Speaker 3: Big mining thing. He probably had a few places.
Speaker 6: No where does he ship? Or you said ship? Okay,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I thought you all
Speaker 6: throw That's why was using.
Speaker 5: I found this bucket of mud.
Speaker 1: It's no mud.
Speaker 4: It's a long time to come back.
Speaker 1: Let's let's take another ad break and then we'll probably
Speaker 1: be back with some uh, foul found thoughts, scenes, et cetera.
Speaker 1: So we'll be right back, and we're back justa We
Speaker 1: were just discussing Laurence Fishburne's character. He's the guy who's
Speaker 1: been there for seven ten seasons?
Speaker 4: You know, is it ten seasons? He said seven seasons.
Speaker 3: He does it first and then his visible friend make.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, my bad, I'm in the same campus Kirkland
Speaker 2: that I didn't remember him at all. I so I
Speaker 2: actually kind of ruined it for myself because I searched
Speaker 2: up predators in his name popped up and I was like,
Speaker 2: what where is he? And I didn't remember where he
Speaker 2: popped up, But I I didn't fully expect him to
Speaker 2: go all crazy and turn on them because I didn't
Speaker 2: remember his character. So it was a little bit of
Speaker 2: a surprise there. And you know, I think it's it's
Speaker 2: kind of needed in the sense that it gives you know,
Speaker 2: the samurai his sword and the convict his vest so
Speaker 2: that way he can get shot things like that. But yeah, overall,
Speaker 2: it's I think it's kind of a fun idea. I
Speaker 2: think you've been there long enough that eventually you do
Speaker 2: start to go crazy, and if you've got no one
Speaker 2: else to talk to it converse to. You know, making
Speaker 2: up an imaginary friend is probably something that would happen,
Speaker 2: but uh, I don't know. I think he's really just
Speaker 2: kind of a vessel to move things forward more than
Speaker 2: anything else.
Speaker 1: There you go, uh, anybody, because we didn't talk specif.
Speaker 1: I feel like we talked about tover Grace, but we didn't.
Speaker 1: But was there anything that specifically we want to say
Speaker 1: on him? If not, we can move on to somebody else.
Speaker 6: Completely forgot about that twist, like completely, So when that happened,
Speaker 6: that was another It was just ridiculous. I feel like
Speaker 6: the whole movie I was just I was waiting for
Speaker 6: or not even that. I was just like everybody fits
Speaker 6: but this guy, and it just doesn't make sense. And
Speaker 6: I didn't for one moment think that there was a twist.
Speaker 6: So I just felt ridiculous when it happened because it's like,
Speaker 6: of course, of course, this nerdy guy is actually like
Speaker 6: a fucking body eater or something like who knows what
Speaker 6: this guy does.
Speaker 5: He's just very weird and kooky.
Speaker 6: It did make sense, but then when the twist happened, it, yeah,
Speaker 6: I was like face bombing. It wasn't it's not even
Speaker 6: like I laughed at it was just like, of course.
Speaker 3: When Royce is like, you know, they're all killers or
Speaker 3: they're all players, he doesn't belong to frying to tilt
Speaker 3: for grace, You're like, yeah, it doesn't belong.
Speaker 5: He just went with it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: And like I think when he like when he twisted,
Speaker 6: in my mind, I'm like, why is this even happening?
Speaker 6: Like what's his plan here? He's just gonna kill Isabelle
Speaker 6: and then say like, I don't know, man, Okay, yeah, fair.
Speaker 1: I like the twist, but it is weird at the time.
Speaker 1: It's just like he they're already dead to rights and
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm just gonna kill you before the preasors
Speaker 1: kill you. I guess, cool, bro, Like, I guess that's it.
Speaker 1: So I think they could have I like the twist.
Speaker 1: I think they could have used it at a better moment.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting when they used him as canon fodder,
Speaker 3: they just decked him out with grenades and just it
Speaker 3: was very brutal too, because the Predator was just like
Speaker 3: walks up to him, just extends the blade and just
Speaker 3: like pushes it into his back and then just pulls
Speaker 3: it out. It's just brutal.
Speaker 1: He just has like every grenade that's ever been known
Speaker 1: to man. Actually, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was just gonna say that, you know, at the beginning,
Speaker 2: definitely I remember there being some kind of twist with him,
Speaker 2: but I couldn't remember what it was. So you kind
Speaker 2: of watched the movie going, oh, yeah, he's the medic.
Speaker 2: He's there in case all of these people fighting get
Speaker 2: injured against the predator. He can help so they can
Speaker 2: fight longer. But then when he gets Nikolai to go
Speaker 2: back and help him and then just completely leaves him,
Speaker 2: at that point, you're just like, Okay, what the fudge
Speaker 2: is wrong with this guy? You're supposed to be the medic.
Speaker 2: He didn't say like no, leave me and go. He
Speaker 2: just left him at that point. But I just completely
Speaker 2: don't understand why paralyzed Isabella. You know, what is the
Speaker 2: point of it? I don't to me that the twist
Speaker 2: is great unexpected how they revealed it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: It kind of offer her up or something like that
Speaker 3: to the predator like make well never nds.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the way for the episode.
Speaker 4: Does it make sense to anybody?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Do you know it's.
Speaker 1: Just it's just for the twist to me, just to
Speaker 1: do like, oh, this is the guy who's been shay
Speaker 1: the whole time. But again, yeah, I guess he could
Speaker 1: kill her, but then he's just gonna get killed right away.
Speaker 4: So maybe he thought it was five o'clock or something.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but unfortunately was predator clock.
Speaker 4: She said.
Speaker 2: He said that she could feel everything, so you know,
Speaker 2: m he was looking to feel everything too, I hope not.
Speaker 1: For all, you know, he just felt a bunch of explosions.
Speaker 1: So I looked at the cast list. We went over everybody,
Speaker 1: so is there any moments or anything we wanted to
Speaker 1: shout before her thoughts of ratings go ahead?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Good. But I like the looks of the predators
Speaker 5: in this one. Made the Berserker one.
Speaker 6: With the nice little like jaw pieced onto his I
Speaker 6: feel like that's such an intimidating look.
Speaker 5: That was pretty bad ass.
Speaker 6: And as you mentioned, like the Falcon predator guy with
Speaker 6: that device, that was pretty badass. And again, I I
Speaker 6: love gadgets, and whenever I see like a different gadget
Speaker 6: from the last movie, I feel like I'll at least
Speaker 6: give it a plus point for that. So I like
Speaker 6: that being showcase and then the other one that took
Speaker 6: out Nikolai. Did he have any like special like things
Speaker 6: with him, Taylor, like a I don't know, like a
Speaker 6: special ability or something, or you just had like a
Speaker 6: boor boor test helm. Probably just like head butt people.
Speaker 6: I would imagine he looked a little bit smaller than
Speaker 6: the other ones too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a plasma cast or he was just
Speaker 3: the tracker. Yeah, all their names have the Falconer. We
Speaker 3: have mister Black who is the Berserker, and then the Tracker,
Speaker 3: and then the Classic Predator.
Speaker 6: But we do a quick little The Classic Predator is
Speaker 6: that the one in the tree.
Speaker 3: As one on the totem.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Tracker though, is also known as flusher or dog handler,
Speaker 3: So he's the guy that was kind of working with
Speaker 3: the dogs, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: So he would prefer dog handler flush boy.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh so the Classic Predator is he the class predator
Speaker 6: because he was like a different race than those other
Speaker 6: predators because they had like bug eyes, sort of like
Speaker 6: the Berserker did when you take his helt off.
Speaker 3: They referred to they called the Classic Predator because it's
Speaker 3: kind of tribute to jungle Hunter, which jungle Hunter was
Speaker 3: the name for the original predator, that's what you think.
Speaker 3: Like they just called him classic Pretter because he is
Speaker 3: a classic predator.
Speaker 5: Basically, it was not the same one like I got murdered.
Speaker 3: No, not the same one, but like the same part
Speaker 3: of the.
Speaker 5: Same species or subspecies.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then again this is where I asked on my
Speaker 6: lore on the Yauchers, is are they just like all
Speaker 6: from the same planet and they just live in different
Speaker 6: burrows or something.
Speaker 5: That's what they look different.
Speaker 3: It's two species are from different planets, and as far
Speaker 3: as I believe, like predators have different worlds they live.
Speaker 3: And that's one of my favorite things too. With a requiem,
Speaker 3: you get a glimpse at like the predator home world
Speaker 3: and you see like tons of ships like on highways
Speaker 3: and stuff. It's fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: Just the planet they've taken over and they use for
Speaker 1: like hunting.
Speaker 3: This is and that's something I like too, because you
Speaker 3: have like the old mining equipment that no one was
Speaker 3: hiding in and that it could be from the Preader's
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it's from just another alien
Speaker 3: race that was just mining there. At one point praders
Speaker 3: came in and just made it a game preserve.
Speaker 1: So so how come there's the two tribes that are
Speaker 1: sharing this planet that are game preserved or anything.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say they're sharing.
Speaker 5: Because the other one was just on display, right, Yeah,
Speaker 5: but that's.
Speaker 1: What I mean. How did that happen? At one point
Speaker 1: one of them had to take it over? The planet
Speaker 1: is like a hunting preserve. And then which tribe came
Speaker 1: after like retake it over? They just get their own planet,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I think it was just a
Speaker 3: matter of this when Preider was just subducted or taken
Speaker 3: and the pred the Berserker Preaders just strung them up
Speaker 3: and this is their planet that they rule with.
Speaker 1: So sounds to suck.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited to get to Ragua. I don't think
Speaker 6: i've seen it. I feel like I've started it and
Speaker 6: it was like a cam virgin and I'm like, nah,
Speaker 6: not why.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's up your alley. If you like
Speaker 3: Drass Park three and stuff, then yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2: Playing two predators too in this movie. Yeah, did the
Speaker 2: Berserker and not the Falcon but the other one, the Flusher.
Speaker 3: The Flusher.
Speaker 1: Were playing the Predator movie, the Flusher Predator.
Speaker 5: He just introduced himself as the Berserker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I play the dog handler, it says here on
Speaker 1: the credits here the flusher. No, I'm definitely the definitely
Speaker 1: the dog handler. All right, plussure anything else to shut
Speaker 1: up before we give our final thoughts in a rating.
Speaker 3: The uh. One other major scene that I really really
Speaker 3: loved in this film was when they were coming up
Speaker 3: to excuse me, they come up to the ridge and
Speaker 3: no one's died yet, but they come up to that
Speaker 3: ridge and they just this again that's score it kicks
Speaker 3: in and it's it's just so epic, just crank that
Speaker 3: fucking base and they're just looking like they don't even
Speaker 3: cut to what they're looking at, but like Walt and
Speaker 3: it's just like like his closing his eyes and like
Speaker 3: whoa like reopening them and everyone's just gasping for air
Speaker 3: and it just cuts to like two planets in the sky,
Speaker 3: like totally, it's just it's and again the CGI Roy said,
Speaker 3: what's that?
Speaker 1: Do you know what Roy said?
Speaker 3: Where I need a new plan? But no, it's just
Speaker 3: it's incredible scene CGI was immaculate for me. I loved it.
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's just visually that's a beautiful wallpaper there,
Speaker 3: Like just I couldn't imagine being in their shoes.
Speaker 1: Have you made it a wallpaper yet?
Speaker 3: I'll make one for you?
Speaker 1: No, I said, have you made it a wallpaper?
Speaker 3: Not for myself, but I will for you.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a beautiful wallpaper, you said. I
Speaker 1: just feel like it'd be right up your alley to
Speaker 1: be putting that on your phone.
Speaker 3: You know, I'll make some for all you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I really like that moment because it just realized like
Speaker 6: how fuck they actually are? You know, like you can't
Speaker 6: just get to something. It's like, okay, I'm trapped. I'm
Speaker 6: not even on the moon, Like where the hell do
Speaker 6: I even go?
Speaker 1: Like and then and like how did he do? How
Speaker 1: did he fly this ship away without it being in it?
Speaker 1: It was there just autopilot or something.
Speaker 2: Sad that's why he like selected that it was going
Speaker 2: to Earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he just jumped out last minute, What do
Speaker 1: you mean who jumped out? Because Agrian Brody like didn't
Speaker 1: go on.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there's an agent Brody that.
Speaker 1: I'm Agent bro Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's pretty badass.
Speaker 3: And one other thing too, just that other alien that
Speaker 3: was killed too. It would have been cool to see
Speaker 3: more of the other like species dropped off, But I
Speaker 3: like that it's not just limited to just humans on
Speaker 3: this planet. It's a whole variety of different species. And
Speaker 3: that thing that was just kind of murking around, it's
Speaker 3: very reminiscent of the initial suit that was from uh,
Speaker 3: the original Predator design. You can kind of see it
Speaker 3: in like the way they design, like to have the
Speaker 3: face mask and stuff, a little bit like that. Very different,
Speaker 3: it's on right, but similar in sum reguards. But yeah,
Speaker 3: very cool concept.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I don't remember it. I remember,
Speaker 1: but right the river moster.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, someone else go, I'm going to pull up
Speaker 3: a photo.
Speaker 1: Oh I shouldn't have said anything there, you know, it's
Speaker 1: almost anybody else have anything else to shut out?
Speaker 5: I have no more notes. They're depleted.
Speaker 3: Jessica chasing tof for grace.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember a little bit.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, there's a side by side comparison.
Speaker 1: Right right, I see is that John Claudeen there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was the original pred.
Speaker 5: Or Jessica to say, you know, I'm so glad they
Speaker 5: changed that.
Speaker 6: I am too, especially like if it would have been
Speaker 6: the original, you know, because that would have been that's
Speaker 6: the look that's the classic.
Speaker 5: Or when you see Buddy touched to the tree, that
Speaker 5: would be this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this is an elaborate prank and
Speaker 2: that is not at all true.
Speaker 1: That's what he looked like, and that was actually John
Speaker 1: Claude van dam As well. There's lots of lore behind it.
Speaker 1: So who's this guy just holding a fucking fish in
Speaker 1: the photos? I don't know, River. This guy's a predator
Speaker 1: to the River Monsters.
Speaker 3: River goes first in the images, but then yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Fish are posting about this guy. Look out for him.
Speaker 1: He's sucking up our own colony. It's the same guy.
Speaker 1: Who's this Anthony Hopkins looking motherfucker.
Speaker 5: It's a River Monsters guy. God, you don't want River Monster.
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Is this a real thing?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you punking me?
Speaker 3: No, that's a real thing about I think it's watching.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a thing. I'm pretty sure my stepdad watches it.
Speaker 1: All right, get this off your while I drop my
Speaker 1: final rating here. I uh yeah, there's so much more
Speaker 1: I can say. It's an enjoyable movie. It's a good
Speaker 1: action movie. It is a fun like I said, introducing
Speaker 1: new concepts with the Predator planet different species, different types,
Speaker 1: the whole lore, as far as the hunting ground stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I think it's all cool stuff. It actually
Speaker 1: is something that feels refreshing to the predators of it,
Speaker 1: not just oh, predator trying to kill these people, you know,
Speaker 1: for some odd reason. So yeah, I really like it.
Speaker 1: I'll give it a seven out of ten. That's the
Speaker 1: right where I'll come back and watch it again. I
Speaker 1: will watch it again. I think it's kind of right
Speaker 1: now everything for the retro. So I feel like everyone
Speaker 1: a while to say, Okay, I gotta do some Predator watches,
Speaker 1: and I was looking forward to watching this one, and
Speaker 1: I liked it, of course. Yeah, there's some cgs and
Speaker 1: the greatest of some character moments that you're like, we
Speaker 1: talk about Topra Grace and others. Ah, there's some stuff
Speaker 1: that doesn't dated the greatest, but yeah, someven had ten
Speaker 1: for me. That's where I rank Predators, And I guess
Speaker 1: I won't say where I rank it because we'll wait
Speaker 1: till we watch them all that they give our our
Speaker 1: letter box sort of less. But uh yeah, seven at ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's my favorite predator. Oh, I'll put it. I'll
Speaker 4: throw it out there. It's the top number one you've seen.
Speaker 3: Okay, good thing, accurate reading and a VP.
Speaker 2: Wow, oh if we're including AVP, I don't know. I'd
Speaker 2: have to rewatch a VP. When we do our Alien
Speaker 2: retros and then our Alien Versu pretros retros, then I'll
Speaker 2: get I'll add that in.
Speaker 5: And theres predator, like Travis was shouting out earlier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that that was already in this one.
Speaker 5: B VP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, great movie. I had fun rewatching it.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I will ever rewatch it again
Speaker 2: because unlike Travis, I don't know where he has the
Speaker 2: time to watch as much as he does. I I'm
Speaker 2: not so luxurious in my movie rewatching abilities.
Speaker 4: But it's a fun watch.
Speaker 2: If you haven't watched it and for some reason you're
Speaker 2: listening to this retro debating if you should watch it,
Speaker 2: and you've made it this far, I recommend watching it.
Speaker 1: That's fair, you say, because there's lots of times on
Speaker 1: Twitter there's this like trending tweet that comes up where
Speaker 1: it's like name a movie. More than seven times, I'm like,
Speaker 1: why is that a thing? Why is that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I can see It's like there's I've seen
Speaker 1: too many movies more than seven times, so I don't
Speaker 1: know what that is, but lack of sleep.
Speaker 5: I'll go next. I I quite enjoyed this movie.
Speaker 6: I'm I haven't revisited since that first time until now,
Speaker 6: and I don't know. I probably will throw this on
Speaker 6: at some point. I feel like it's fun enough, just
Speaker 6: like I don't know the action being in the jungle,
Speaker 6: there's fun enough action sequences to.
Speaker 5: Just throw it on.
Speaker 3: I like to be in the jungle.
Speaker 6: I like to be in the jungle sometimes I like
Speaker 6: to I like to nap and then wake up and
Speaker 6: I'm in the jungle.
Speaker 5: I feel like where am I falling?
Speaker 3: Are falling?
Speaker 5: Just wake up screaming?
Speaker 1: Land in some ship from Laurence Fishburn.
Speaker 6: I hope not God, I'd be a nightmare. But yeah,
Speaker 6: this this one's fun. I think I'm gonna give an
Speaker 6: eight out of ten. I think some some goofy things
Speaker 6: with like Lawrence Fishburn's character just I don't like, I
Speaker 6: get it, it makes sense, it's just it really threw
Speaker 6: me off, and Edwin's turn toil for Grace's turn really
Speaker 6: was not needed at all in my eyes. But alas,
Speaker 6: I think it's a solid Predator installment. Predators were looking good.
Speaker 6: I'd love to now that we're like what year was
Speaker 6: this movie?
Speaker 5: Twenty ten?
Speaker 6: Twenty ten like that, like like coming from the first
Speaker 6: Predator in the eighties when they would have like the
Speaker 6: thermal vision and then now like, oh man, it's just
Speaker 6: it looks good, you know, like like all that stuff
Speaker 6: looks fantastic.
Speaker 1: And you know what, this is the first time. Obviously
Speaker 1: we've only done the first two, but both of them
Speaker 1: are like, man, they don't do the cloaking device. Well,
Speaker 1: they haven't nailed that down. I thought this movie nailed
Speaker 1: the cloaking down look fantastic or the other ones. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you guys are trying your best, and I can't remember
Speaker 1: what it's like in The Predator, So, like I said,
Speaker 1: I might watch it again. But that's what makes up
Speaker 1: for what pray is. It'll be older, but you'll have
Speaker 1: this new tech now.
Speaker 5: So yeah, absolutely, And I didn't get some.
Speaker 6: Weird lenin drugs first aid kit, you know, repair job
Speaker 6: like I did the other one.
Speaker 1: So no, you just got good CG. I was a
Speaker 1: little wonkey there when the Predators were getting stuf cut
Speaker 1: off like that when that one got his head cut off, man,
Speaker 1: that just looked like a complete CG model for lots
Speaker 1: of it. So but you know, small budget.
Speaker 4: That green blood, neon green blood.
Speaker 1: That's what they bleed, you know.
Speaker 5: I love that detail. That's fantastic.
Speaker 1: If it bleeds, you can kill it, tay Field. But
Speaker 1: to Dune for this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this movie is again absolutely legendary. I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: give it a ten a ten because you know, talking
Speaker 3: about certain things that didn't age well, I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: slap a ten out of ten rating on Fitch Rape
Speaker 3: in Time. That's just that's not good. But I am
Speaker 3: going to go a full nine out of ten though
Speaker 3: it's Uh, it's got so many other components that I
Speaker 3: love to see brought in and added to the overall
Speaker 3: Predator universe, and just getting the whole concept of a
Speaker 3: game preserve on the planet and just some of thes
Speaker 3: my most favorite scenes of all time in cinema was
Speaker 3: really good. It's just it's overall, it's a fantastic movie
Speaker 3: where they tried to tackle with these characters and stuff,
Speaker 3: and it's something I'm gonna watch again and again and again.
Speaker 3: As far as preader movies go, it's definitely the one
Speaker 3: that I would watch the most just because it's an
Speaker 3: easy watch and it's just got a lot of scenes
Speaker 3: that I really really like. I like how it starts
Speaker 3: off with Okay, we are familiar kind of with what's
Speaker 3: going on. We can really get into this and it
Speaker 3: still has so much mystery at the same time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but it's something I wish that we always got a
Speaker 3: sequel to. I don't know if you saw the comic
Speaker 3: book stuff I was sharing earlier Kirkland, but there's some
Speaker 3: like there's some stuff here where they have like romance
Speaker 3: Royce and Isabella, and then Preder like interrupts, so they're
Speaker 3: like getting it on and Royce starts rock and Predator
Speaker 3: tech and pull it. He's doing the costplay Preder cosplay thing.
Speaker 3: But there's a cool stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: Well, there we go, we've done it. So yeah, like
Speaker 1: I said, next week will be the Preda we release,
Speaker 1: and then the next one we'll do a live one
Speaker 1: will be Pray and then and the news casts do
Speaker 1: a ranking. So uh, ladies, gentlemen, thank you very much
Speaker 1: for tuning into this one. I promise when you hear
Speaker 1: from his next it'll not be boring.
Speaker 4: Bye.