Speaker 1: Hello, ladies, gentlemen, Welcome back to the Predator Retrospective. I
am the podcaster and the tree trash now and I'm joined.
Speaker 2: By the Berserker Kirkland Patzer, the seventh season survivor Jessica.
Speaker 3: Over here, Taylor Field.
Speaker 1: Yes, Lasien, we are talking about Predators, so you can
go back. We have done a retro for Predator Predator two,
and then obviously this one, and then next week will
be the re release of the Predator, so we're not
going to retrospect of that. You guys know the rules.
We don't do movies within five years or ones we've
done recently. In what that came out two thousand and eight,
I guess it's gonna close. Sorry, twenty eighteen, right, the Predator,
I think, I guess we're getting close, but now it's
still four years so and plus I don't need to
retro that movie again, but we'll re release review. It's
tons of fun on that one. And yeah, then we'll
be reviewing Prey, which is coming up soon August fifth,
and then yeah, and then after that, there's but Lord
of the Rings retrospectives happening right now, So lots of
retros happening tons of news, variety of many other things.
I think this is dropping this week, so you can
go back and check out our Comic Con coverage. Comic
Coom Marvel panel was our biggest day ever, surpassing The
Batman this year. And that's a big glamar because we've
never had a news day due that's always been a review.
It's always been Spidy, endgame, this or that. But Batman's
been taken down. And but it was a very good day,
fun day and uh yeah, tons, we got a mega
mind retrospective happening. We got tons of things happening, Jessica,
I saw your hand up.
Speaker 4: I just want to before, while we're talking about Pray.
Speaker 2: When I went to find this movie Predators and I
searched it on Disney Plus, Pray came up and I
was like, I thought I was one of those people
that like Disney Plus Glitched and I.
Speaker 3: Got to watch it, but I over fucking.
Speaker 4: I opened it and just said trailer.
Speaker 2: I was like, ah, here, I was thinking I was
going to be one of those people that got something early.
Speaker 5: It's excited, was it?
Speaker 1: I guess it's tame for a little bit, but then
it's disappointment.
Speaker 4: It's true, and the disappointment was I don't know, I
don't know.
Speaker 6: Are you like itching to see prey though? Was it
like one of those things like, oh my gosh, this
is the best thing ever. Invite a bunch of people over,
let's watch pray guys.
Speaker 4: It was more like, you know, oh this pretty cool?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have invited Taylor over,
because I probably would have just started watching it in
case they cut it, like that happened with.
Speaker 1: Rewind it Justice, that happen Justice. I forgot about that
that it went live for under what was it under?
Tom and Jerry?
Speaker 3: Right, that's right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, now that that makes it.
Speaker 4: They cut it and they didn't get to finish it,
wasn't it?
Speaker 1: That was true? Yeah, people, then we had to finish it.
But still they got to see that first hour and
a half and stuff thanks to Tom and Jerry. But yeah, no,
Tom and Jerry this time, I feel like, can they
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Speaker 5: I was joking. I already have some products.
Speaker 6: But no, it was implying Taylor has his own separate photos.
I trust was he was pitching in the chat, but
alas think of Sight of Predators.
Speaker 1: At least he's pitching cleanly. Well speaking of some people.
They need some production, these people on his planet. Let
me tell you, so you know what, it's our first
time having Jess gone the Prayer retrospective. And you said
pifically because I'm like you talked about being predators might
get every time predator brought I think Predator Alien gets
brought you have no interest in it, and you're like, oh,
you're you bugging Tarry saying something about it and stuff
like that. But you specifically wanted to be on this one.
So I'm gonna let you lead off of why did
you want to be in this one? And when was
the first time you saw it? And what do you
feel about now in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: So yeah, my interest in being on this one is
I have really fond memories of this movie.
Speaker 4: I've never seen Predator. I've never seen Predator too.
Speaker 2: I watched this one not in theaters, but when it
came out I guess to DVD at the time, and
then I only watched the Predator for the podcast. And
I probably will not see Prey in theaters. Just if
I'm getting a babysitter or you or something.
Speaker 3: Else for you. It's not in theaters.
Speaker 2: Oh was it Street to Disney Plus? Oh, well, maybe
I'll hop on the review for that.
Speaker 7: Then.
Speaker 1: Uh, you weren't on the Predator.
Speaker 4: Review, was I not?
Speaker 3: I don't know, she just support franchise.
Speaker 4: Maybe there was nothing else out who.
Speaker 1: Knows, fair enough, but continual one.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I remember really enjoying this. I'm wondering, just
looking at years, I might have watched a v P
and then I was like, oh yeah, this is this
is cool, and then watched this one. And I've never
seen a single alien movie besides a VP. So my
whole thing in this universe is limited to a VP,
this and the Predator. Yeah, it's a it's a fun
little world I'm living in here. Just all the prime.
Speaker 1: Prime choices, the series rated ones.
Speaker 5: I mean it can only go up from there.
Speaker 2: You know, Hey, I liked a VP, and you know what,
I like this movie when it first came out, and well,
I do have some problems with it.
Speaker 4: I still did enjoy it. I still had a fun
time watching it.
Speaker 2: Travis looks extremely disappointed in that comment, but I digress.
It's definitely got some problems with how it's aged. There
are definitely some comments and some things that are said
that are like, e, you know, the different time twelve
years ago.
Speaker 4: But overall, it was a fun watch.
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I did rewatch it for this because
I wouldn't have gone back to rewatch it Otherwise it
would have just sat in my memory as a fun,
happy movie that I really enjoyed.
Speaker 4: Overall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to hear what you guys think, just
being the fact that I, you know, that's hashtag behind
the scenes. I haven't listened to either of your guys's
other Predator retros because I had no reason to, because
I don't plan on watching them.
Speaker 1: That's fair, you know, kirkham Pats.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I uh, funny enough.
Speaker 6: I feel like this movie is kind of similar to Jessica,
where I didn't see it in theaters. I feel like
I didn't really even know this was out. This was
definitely pre podcast days, when I like really wasn't in
the now on movies and stuff, and then all of
a sudden, my dad just had some movies out, and
then I was like, oh, look, Predators, what's the funny,
mister chuckles?
Speaker 1: You Taylor planning a podcast and he screwed up the
dates and he's trying. He's like, oh, don't worry.
Speaker 3: Fuck it, it's too late. Gets me.
Speaker 1: Every time he's like, oh, don't worry, we can figure
out a plan, and I dropped to Michael Jackson, it's
too late if it gets me. Every time, I was
annoyed with him because he made he double booked him.
So I was like, you.
Speaker 6: Basked, okay, little little bts there behind the scenes.
Speaker 5: What was I saying?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So this movie was out and then I watched it,
and I I remember really liking it. I definitely like
misremembered certain moments that happened overall in this movie. U.
Speaker 5: But although I think it was a fun time.
Speaker 6: Put in the waiting room, I don't want I don't
want to kick you.
Speaker 1: I don't predators.
Speaker 6: I mean, yes, predators, but honestly, this movie is fun.
I completely forgot like some of the cast that was
actually in this movie. I feel like majority of them
are people that I've seen in other things before because
you didn't.
Speaker 1: Know who he was, just some guy exactly, no, exactly him.
Speaker 5: I forgot Eric Foreman til for Grades was in this Yeah.
But all I know, I feel like, I feel like
this was still a fun watch.
Speaker 6: I I feel like, yeah, without getting into too much
it it it really knew what he was trying to do,
like from the get go, so it wasn't trying to
have this like elaborate plan on why we're getting like
a predator to to New York City or LA or
something like that. It was just let's just put them
in in a hunting ground, and that was I think
that was just really fun. So yeah, I'll pass it
along there. This is only my second time watching it,
and fortunately for me, it was still a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take it. Yeah, I had seen this movie
when it came out twenty ten. I was excited by
the prospect of it because I'll be excited for the
Red shows. I remember not liking the Alien Versus Predder movies.
I remember thinking they were pretty bad, so I was
happy to have some new blood going in there. I
like Robert Rodriguez. Obviously he didn't direct this, but he
produced it, and I think he had some He wasn't credited,
but he talked about the script before, so he had
it was a hands on producing projects. So and that
was a time where I really like him before he
introduced Boba Fette into my life. But anyways, that's another story.
Note Robert is so great director with certain things. And yeah,
it's a stacked stacked cast. And No, I liked it
back then and I still really like it now. I
don't judge a book by its cover, j escame. I
thought I was laughing at that. No, I I still,
like Kurland said, it's as simple. I think it's kind
of like when we do the Jurassic Park retro and
I said, there's only two things you can do with that.
You can do the first Drastic Park and then Drastic World.
Though try to open up the park. It fails, and
then we open up the park and then it fails again.
You know where this is like, Okay, there's only so
which we're gonna get with Prey, but there's only in
my opinion, and we'll see because Pray's getting lots of
good reviews. But so far, I feel like there's only
so much you can do with Predator versus a guy, right,
And I feel like I like Predator two for what
it is, but that's definitely because it's just very cheesy
and over the top. The Predator not a good movie.
So this was a fun idea to Okay, this is
them training. We're gonna put them all, you know, these
elite hunters, which some of them do you want to
say elite? I don't know about that. There's there's some
people where it's just like I don't know if I
buy the guy from the Yakuasa as like an elite
hunter like, true, we'll get to like he does some
najul on, but some of these people are a little questionable.
Like around the world. It is the best, but maybe so.
I think it's a different type of slice of life.
It reminds me very, very very similar to Saw Too,
where a bunch of people wake up in their criminals
and something like what do you do? Where are you from?
And I had major flashbacks to that. So no, I
still like it. I like the world, I like the
concepts they introduce. It is a lower budget mood. I
think you can feel that at times, especially the opening shot,
this mooth of Asie and Brody fall into the sky.
My god, it does not look good at all. It
looks very bad. I wish she just woke up on
the ground. And there's a few things like the dogs
and stuff like that. But that's fine. I kind of
give it a pass because it is lower but yeah, no,
it's it's an enjoyable venture. Yeah, there's definitely some things
in here, specifically Walding Goggin's character that does not age well. Yes,
he was playing a criminal, but at the same time,
it's like, because they play these things for comedic effect,
that's what it's like, oh and all these preader movies
don't age well.
Speaker 3: And I even remember when we reviewed.
Speaker 1: The Predator in twenty eighteen, like even in the current day,
it's just like it's just like a very macho franchise.
But now it's just like things about Masuism have been
shown not be good, you know, and there's like the
toxic side of that. So I still enjoy this movie
quite a bit. I had a fun times it. I
don't watch it like regularly, but next time I will
watch you in my life. And I enjoy everything for
the most part. But I have some cons here and there,
so tear Field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so for me.
Speaker 7: I uh, this is it's tough because this might be
my favorite Predator movie, like even more so than the original,
just because I love how it attributes to the original,
and I love how much it builds off with the universe.
Speaker 3: And again there is some I can't wait to get
into that when we get into like more of the
spoiler like talking about the plant and everything, because there's
one scene that is probably one of my all time
favorite scenes of all time, like in just in cinema,
it's just absolutely incredible. Now I did get to see
this in theaters. I remember when I found uh. I
was on a super big kick in grade ten s talk.
I know, I saw you fucking put it in there.
Oh my god, that's the gift everyone's God. It fucking
gets me every time though. So when I was in
grade ten at the time and this movie was coming
out and I found on the internet the posts because
they're super cryptic about they released it a game on
the Apple Store for it. I put it on my
iPhone the time. It was fucking awesome.
Speaker 6: Gay, I had that game actually, but yeah, because you
would play as the predator, right, yeah, yeah, that one,
that one slapped.
Speaker 5: That one was so good.
Speaker 3: This is awesome.
Speaker 1: No one cut that out of context.
Speaker 3: Please, It was so good for a mobile game. But yeah,
So they started dropping all these cryptic things like learn
about like the history, like who, what's their real like ms?
All these characters and stuff. I got so excited that
I'm going to share some personal stuff here with you
guys if you're watching the video thing. I kind of
obviously like the personal personal parts. But on my Facebook
I actually shared these back in the day. Come on,
I got that. I actually posted and created an album
for for Predators and put all the photos in there,
and I was like, oh, this is just so cool.
And I commented you like.
Speaker 4: Your own post I did, You're the only one.
Speaker 5: Was like, I'm the only comment too.
Speaker 3: I read so stoked on this movie. Yeah, Predator's Moll
coming out release date July seven. And then I eat
that white thing you see at the bottom there, that thing,
I actually screenshot it and I took the time in
grade ten did work on this. This is what I did.
I actually did this and put this in my album.
Times to go to a website to watch Predators trailer. Finally,
I don't know if this link, like, yeah, it is
obviously completely.
Speaker 9: Sost is I supposed to say finally, Oh it's supposed
to for surely, my god, sound like a hobbit over there,
but we get it when we.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 3: Thanks for history there from yours truly.
Speaker 1: Have you tried to go to the website?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: No, you should go to right now, screenship and go
to right now.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go to right now.
Speaker 1: She's a bunch of nudes of tailor. It's like you're
the presser mask and then the platass naked.
Speaker 2: Raw card that's not our only fans on the zilla. Also,
what's the one comment?
Speaker 8: It was?
Speaker 3: It just that was me, and I said like, oh,
this is so cool.
Speaker 1: This is a sad look, I got to open up
the thing. At that point his parents were looking at him,
just being like, it's too late. Okay, is it the
searching up here? Well, we're gonna take our first ad
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So many times are oh yeah, so.
Speaker 3: Like the website doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 4: Makes spelling it wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, finally, Yeah, Oh I did worse.
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
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Speaker 3: So my website is not unfortunate.
Speaker 1: Well tell you said you couldn't wait to get into
when we were talking about spoilers. But before you get into,
because I will throw to you, I have to start
with this movie. If I had a very early place
in our hearts in the geek for his podcast, because
I remember Kirkland's last cast, which you know didn't last
that long, but when we thought he wasn't coming back
when he lied, uh for we did our top ten
fictional fictional fair characters, and I remember you shocked the
world like you have a very you can go find
that list on YouTube somewhere everybody, but you have a
very shocking list in general, but no shocking entry more
than the character from this movie. Now, it's not Royce,
it's not one of the other killers, it's not one
of the predators with the names hunting. It is literally
predator in the tree and Predator in the tree. That's
what list was. Predator in the Tree Hens my my nickname,
and yeah and Tay we talked about when we gave
him crowd like, you don't even know this character's name,
but this this is the one. Finally the watches and
this is the guy who is in your top ten
favorite characters. He still stand by that, Taylor, I would
still stand by it.
Speaker 3: I like what I I watched. So when I watched Predators,
I watched it a couple of weeks ago because I
just I couldn't maintain my excitement. I had to get
into it. And this is a movie where I'll always
just if I'm just kicking around, I'll go on YouTube
and I'll just watch scenes with a predator and I'm
just just like, fuck, this is so good. And the
main not the main hunting predator on the Predator that's
been tied up, and it's just like on the totem,
I've like, fuck, it's so cool when he gets cut,
when Royce just shows up cuts him down, and then
you get that og predator theme that's like remixed, and
it's like like like, oh, holy fuck, it's just remixing,
and the Predator is just like grabs Royce like looking
at his skull, drops him, and then man, this is
just what I fucking love the remix kicks and hard
and it's like do do do do do doo, and
he's like slow mo putting his helmet on. He puts
it on and then like the electricity fizzles over his body, like, oh,
this is so fucking good. And then he activates his
gauntlet and then he I just I love the scenes
so much where Earth appears and you just see like
the smile on Royce. That's a big kicker for me,
is when you can see like an alien species is
kind of like befriending like a human, and then they
have that bone. That's why like alien versus pread Er
so much, because they have that dynamic in there. But
just to see this scene here and then the music's
still kicking in and then it immediately cuts. He hits
the button activate the ship. Oh, I'm just fucking losing
my mind right now in the living room. And then
the Brazerker comes in and then the Predder steps in
front of Royce. Oh, it's that's one of the greatest
scenes of all time I ever seen a movie. It's
so perfect.
Speaker 2: I gotta say though, the lead into that scene when
he just like straight falls from the fie.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's just like.
Speaker 1: If you cut me, you'll catch you right, yeah? Uh yeah,
where do we want to go? As far as uh,
let's start with our gang. I have nothing more to
sayd the Predator tree other than Jessica say what I
was gonna say that I fell, and you know, I
will say I think they were smart because now I
can't remember this, you guys probably I guarantee it happens,
and a VP do two predators fight at any point
and a VP either one? So yeah, next see them.
But I think it pretor yeah, but sometimes there might
be like, oh, you know the enemy, the enemy is
my friend or something like that.
Speaker 3: They say that, but that's the aliens.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so I think that was smarter them for
they got a planet full of predators, let's have them
fight because that doesn't happen. It happens a little bit now.
And the predator that we got, but that was a
very small version of this is a big one funking up.
At this point, we had not got two predators fighting
and stuff. So I think that was smart to do.
Only it's like the greatest fight scene because that's just
the guy like rolling around, falling over trees and everything.
But I think it's fun enough, you're like, Okay, cool,
I'm seeing two predators fight right now, Taylor, I have
to ask you, what is your theory for why that
predators in that tree? I feel like you've thought about
this for ages.
Speaker 3: You know it's like a humiliation thing.
Speaker 1: But why they humiliate.
Speaker 5: Him he's a freshman?
Speaker 3: Well, I mean the rivalry that exists between the two clans. Basically,
you have the the ones that are a little bit
more My knowledge on this berserker preator is a little wacky,
but they're just much more into doing their own thing
and aggressive and not following the code and the ethics
and the honor that the main yacha really stand for. So,
yeah's that word yahucha, Yeah, I just learned about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Fishburne was talking about that there's just the
two different species and that there's the bigger, stronger ones
and then the other smaller ones.
Speaker 4: So and he talks more about it.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what he says exactly, but he says
that basically they're in competition.
Speaker 3: Basically for the reasons why this preader's on total it
could range show a whole bunch of different things. I
take it as it's literally just humiliation. Just this hunter
that's supposed to be a killing machine on top of
the food chain is just left here just to hang
there and can't do a single thing about it, and humiliation.
Or he could have been exiled by his own clan
and dispatched here. And this is again just like I
don't know, Purgatory before Hell or something like that. I
don't know.
Speaker 1: He didn't get his hero moment because he still lost
that fight too.
Speaker 3: He did, but after being hung there for so long,
he put up a good fight.
Speaker 8: That's true.
Speaker 3: It's just the way it goes for predators. I'm I'm
longing for the day that a predator actually survives at
the end of the movie and doesn't get beheaded or
killed or nuked or something like that.
Speaker 6: It's a hard life man, their killer or be killed,
and I feel like they don't want to kick their
shoes up and of like a leisurely death. I'm sure,
I'm sure they want to die in the heat of battle.
Speaker 3: They have to. Yeah, that's how they get to Valhalla.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Taylor, you'll be happy to know that that
one that does kill the predator in the tree, like
the I don't know, mister Black that's his name, mister Black.
Why is his name in the black?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Just gave that right now, action figure out there. That
was the version of my Halloween coustume I bought a
long time ago.
Speaker 3: Was he dressed as a predator for Halloween.
Speaker 1: It did well. I actually bought it. Yeah, I bought
it for a spoof film, and I think I've told
the story before with the costume online looked fucking badass,
and when I got in person it was not that
at all. It looked like trash. Never got to use it,
but man, it was fucking awful. But alas, let's talk
about our gang of misfits here, k Leaway, who do
you want to start talking about first here in this adventure?
Because yeah, they all get put down there just to
set it up. You've never seen it, but they all
they're all fallen from the sky. They all meet each other,
they all trust each other, and they all realize, oh,
we're here for one reason. It's to be hunted, and
that's why they have to work together because if they don't,
they'll die and not survive this mission. So what do
you think about our gay of characters, anyone in particular.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I can start with the head haunch
of Adrian Brody himself. I remember, I mean, I've always
liked Adrian Brody. I think the first thing I saw
him in was King Kong. Oh yeah, and Shane and
I just recently powered through Peggy Blinders and he actually
appeared as a villain in that and he was really good.
Speaker 5: The cast is insane in that show.
Speaker 6: Everyone's Andy Taylor Joy popped off in season five and six.
It was that show is Stellar and Killian Murphy. Oh
my gosh, I am so excited for Roppenheimer. He was fantastic.
Speaker 2: Is it fully done now? Like last episode is aired?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think they they saw yeah a little more. Well
that's what I've heard. They're only doing six seasons, but
I heard they're also doing a movie and then possibly
like a spinoff series off of that movie. And I
think Killian Murphy and like the other main guy signed on,
So it's like, why not just do more seasons?
Speaker 5: But alast, so, did I.
Speaker 4: Can beinge it now? Though? That's my main question?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd say so, it's it's yeah, I'd say, so,
did you.
Speaker 1: Did you get the open higher trailer?
Speaker 3: When you did?
Speaker 1: Did you Yeah, that was a whole bunch of nothing.
I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 5: It was a lot of explosion.
Speaker 1: These motherfuckers released this movie in summer thinking it's gonna
be hit. Oh my god, no one, what are you doing?
Speaker 6: It's gonna be hot. But Alas and predators. So yeah,
Adrian Brody, he's fantastic. And I remember the first time
I watched this movie, I was just like, man, what
a great protagonist. He's like an airgorn to me, you know,
like he's just a great leader. And then in this
movie he's he's really just like kind of on his own,
and like, I get it.
Speaker 5: He's just like he doesn't really care about these people.
Speaker 6: But like in my memory, I just I saw him
as like leading the fellowship through these these predator filled jungles,
you know, to like we're all gonna.
Speaker 5: Make it through this. That was not the case at all.
So that was kind of an eye opening moment. Yeah,
he kind of any moment. Yeah, I get it. He
came back at the end for his hero redemption part,
but I don't know it.
Speaker 6: He's I feel like I just I remembered him being
a lot more human than than what he actually is
in this because I feel like he's just kind of
like that train killer that says like cool lines at
certain moments. So personally, for me, I felt like his
overall character was lesser than what I remembered. What about
you guys, Adrian Brody, Royce, Jessica.
Speaker 2: So I have made it abundantly clear in at least
our chats, I really love Adrian Brody. I was trying
to hint it some kind of splice, you know, retro today,
I don't think it's happening.
Speaker 4: That's what I was trying. I was trying to get there.
I was trying to get there.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was kind of the vibe got that
no one wanted to do it, so I was like,
I won't go there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 2: So there was kind of two things I remembered going
into this, and one was that he was super like
mysterious and that to for grace had some kind of twist.
I couldn't remember exactly any of those details, but that
was kind of the two things I remembered. And you know,
I guess it kind of works that he was my serious.
He's very keeps to himself, doesn't want to give any
information about himself. I don't know that I necessarily agree
with the whole he's not human thing. I think he's
just got a very high survival instinct for how to
move forward in a way that's just kind of self centered.
I wouldn't say inhuman, though, especially when you compare it
to some of the other characters and comments that they make.
Speaker 5: That's fair, it's all relative, still character.
Speaker 1: I still put him in the inhuman category though, because
even then you got the reversal. Walton Goggins, Yeah, he's
a piece of shit, but then when Ali dies, he
like is remorseful about that, where Royce is like, fuck, oh,
I don't care. He was slowing us down, like he
died for us. So I think they're all I think
that's the point of the story, that he is on
that other side, but that at the end he turns around.
I do think he is that way for most this movie,
because he didn't care about anybody until he cares about
Isabel to an extent. But like again, he just it's
just one person he cares about. Now, you know, it's
a little late. All those people are dead now, so
he's he's not really, He's just trained to worry about himself.
Which I guess it depends what you value in life.
If that's if you're value survival, then that's the most
human thing you could do. But I think he's definitely
in that category of being inhumane as far as not
wanting to help anybody. He used the whole team as bait.
He was ready for the whole team to die half
an hour into this movie and he's like, I just
want to see what they were.
Speaker 3: You attachment?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But at the same time, do you not have
attachment just other people? If you were to see someone
on the ground bleeding, would you just walk right by him?
Speaker 5: But you hear me, he just crouched over Taylor.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing we have.
Speaker 3: He's alone, pre existing.
Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't say that. I didn't say me
on the street. I said a person on the street.
Speaker 8: I think that.
Speaker 3: I would, And I think that's that's wherever would take
advantage of me. He'd be able to kill me.
Speaker 2: The thing with Boyce, though, is what if, Yeah, what
if we're all together though, and someone's there crying and
he goes, yeah, I wouldn't go to him because they
injured him, and as soon as you go to help him,
they're gonna kill you.
Speaker 4: I know that because I did it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fine. But then there's ones where, like I said,
he used them all as a trap. You can't justify
that he used all six people just to see what
the predator would do.
Speaker 3: That's and that's cerctly because he makes that case as
well to Isabella when he says, like, you know, you
kill for a country, so you don't have to admit
that you like it. Like he's inferring all these things
about the movie that he kills because he enjoys it.
He doesn't give a shit about human life.
Speaker 1: He's not a good guy.
Speaker 3: He is a predator basically, and he's not a good guy.
So I think it fits with him just being a scumbag.
Just he's gonna sacrifice if someone gets killed, he's gonna
put their lives on the line to see what happens.
And it's it's horrible to put their lives in the line.
But it worked because he was able to figure out
a whole crapload about right.
Speaker 2: Everyone else in that group is playing checkers and he's
playing chess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't make him a good like that
doesn't make him not inhumane like that he's using them
all as pawns then, and that to me is just
like that's to me the point of the story where
that's why he comes back. He's supposed to be the
shoot guy. He's like what Kirkland say when he remembers
this in the Hero, he's the anti here And obviously
you haven't watched Predator, but like he's the exact opposite
of Arnold, who Arnold the whole time is trying to
save his team, right, he is the leader. He saves
a random he meets that one random prisoner girl, He's like,
we're gonna make sure she gets out of here. Where
this guy's like, fuck them all. I think that was
smarter than do that. I hate when they rip off
Arnold's line at the end of d It Kill Me Now.
It was so lame. I wish, like, I hate if
this was a remake, then fine, you can do that,
but this isn't the same. This is a sequel to that,
so I hate that, Like why he's saying the exact
same thing Arnold said, like, it doesn't like Adrian Brodie.
He doesn't even look like this these times too, but
he didn't even look like he did work out first,
they just look like they oil them up, because like
he doesn't really much like he has some ads, but
they're like skinny abs his arms. There's no definition to me,
and they're like trying to make him look like this
muscle guy runny. He's fat, remember, fast, running fast. But
like at thed I hated when he did all of
Arnold's lying because because it's just like, there's no reason
for him to be doing all this. But that's to me,
was the point as far as if you're comparing to
the first one, Arnold's the exact opposite. He's trying to
save people. He even trying to save people that turn
like that portrayed him, and this guy is not and
this guy will do anything, And like Taylor said, I
think he likes that, enjoys it. I think that's why
at the end of the movie, it finally weighs on
of Okay, I can't I'm no better than these monsters
if I don't go back and try and save these
two people. Obviously, to for Grace is not worth saving
when he gets there, but he didn't know that at
the time.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I feel like Adrian's Bruti's character is more.
Speaker 4: Like what's the word. I'm looking for more relatable.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I so.
Speaker 1: Jessica lead the team and she can. Yeah, the sociopaths relatable,
I don't know. I don't know that one.
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's just because I am weak and
not trained in shooting guns. But you know, if someone
is about to be killed, I'm like, I can't help you.
I'm not going to be any faster or stronger than
you are better aiming.
Speaker 1: That's different because you're not Yeah, but you're not this Like,
this guy is highly trained. Yeah, he's fast, he's highly trained,
he's smart, he has the skills to help people potentially survive,
and he doesn't, you know, till the very end he does.
But there's a there's a or even though it's not
even that, it's just that he shows no remorse for
the people.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: That's where it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess I'd be sad that I had to
walk away from the guy in the field that's dying.
You know, I wouldn't go save him. So I'm no
better in that sense, but I would be like, well,
this kind of sucks.
Speaker 11: But you know, all of them, but all of them
are they walk away and have Isabelle or shoot him,
you know.
Speaker 1: Like at least she had the idea shoot the guy
and put him out of his misery. So they're all cowardly.
Speaker 2: The only why did she shoot him in the back though,
like at least shoot him in the head. I thought, yeah, yeah,
I mean, like, come on, though, I feel I think one.
Speaker 1: I think I think a sniper rifle of the hot
heart's gonna kill you, like I'm gonna. I don't want
to search on Google because Canadian govern might it might
be all over me. But I think a sniper rifle
to the heart, I think it's gonna liquify your heart
really fast.
Speaker 4: The obviously it didn't.
Speaker 1: The only yea, he was dead.
Speaker 3: So the only two people I would put like consciousness
and he didn't know he was.
Speaker 4: Dead there, Jessica, I said, I know, he.
Speaker 1: Said, no, you're trying to fight. It's like, no, he's
dead there.
Speaker 3: The only two people with a consciousness that I would
attribute to in this film would be Nikolai and then Isabella,
because again they are the two soldiers for their country, right.
Speaker 1: And they make it seem like tofa Grace has that,
but he really doesn't. You know, they can't I love
that twist with that character that seems like the nice guy,
and when you watch the first time, I feel like
he's the doctor and doctor Dodgeball because Okay, all these
people are not criminals, but they've done some short things,
but at least are just assassin's killers, criminals all those things,
and then he has nothing right, he has kids, he's
a surgeon, so you just I always when I watched
the first time, I took guys, okay, it's he's the doctor.
He's there like, Okay, this guy's gonna help you out
if you're hurt it all. But really he's there because again,
do I think the Predator is watching like a Dexter
Morgan and he's gonna like cannap him. No, I think
that like some of these are stretches of like what
they've been falling him for weeks and find has like
secret killings like no, like you're telling the Predator has.
Speaker 5: Taken out a couple couple of predators himself, no predator
and a.
Speaker 3: Ship that just watches like stand by because it's.
Speaker 1: The tree guy. That's not his job.
Speaker 6: The guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they just they pluck him out and
just drop on the planet for the main hunters to
go in.
Speaker 1: I just told a few him as like an elite killer.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: That's the thing where it's just like, I don't think
it would be the worst preader time, because Eve, when
COVID grads like I'm one of you, there's multiply these
killers that go to toe hurt the predators take him out
tofa Christ doesn't do that at all. We didn't evenet
to see him use his smarts on a predator. Sure
he takes out Isabelle for a second, but like he's
he's useless fighting a predator. So that's where it's like, Okay,
this guy and even all thing Goggins to me is
a stretch, is like an elite hunter the predator would
want to go against as what we've seen in the
other movies. Yeah, I just I don't see it as
far as yeah, these guys are the ones you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I do want to say though, because even Fishburne
says he's been there for you know, the seven seasons.
Speaker 4: In each season say they drop seven people.
Speaker 2: You know, at some point they got to start spreading
out who they're picking and who they're dropping. They can't
just do merks every single time.
Speaker 4: It's boring.
Speaker 2: It doesn't give them any change of skill or any
type of thrill.
Speaker 4: At some degree, it's just.
Speaker 3: What they've done for goodness, because like he yeah, he
brought in like America's most wanted guy, our fbis most
wanted and then what is what happens? Like he shoots
them in the back with his plasma caster, thinking he
got him, and then all of a sudden, like surprise,
he's at He's at a vesta in there. So it's
the changing of the tactics. Okay, Like, I gotta take
that into account next time, because this guy did this
thing which I didn't suspect that could have been an option. Yeah, fine,
ripped out because he was fucking pissed at him.
Speaker 1: But I'm fine with it for the fun of the movie.
It's just because every other predator, like most of our
army guys, soldier guys, you know, the most you could
kind of skirt to is like Danny or yeah, Danny
Glover of the cop But still it's like he is
in a he's in a fucking war zone and predator too.
That's no regular Los Angeles, that's Los Angeles under war.
So that's what it's like every other time they're picking
those type.
Speaker 3: Of one was a doctor in Los Angeles?
Speaker 1: That was he actually no, Oh, that explains it if
he wasn't at Los Angeles, which is weird because like
I never knew this because I was looking up stuff her.
I'm sure you knew that. This actually still takes place
after the Predator and the Cannon, which is really weird.
It's like the Predator happens and then the Predators happens.
Technically this is like the last in the canon right now.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that. I didn't actually like look that
far and everything after like Predator, I just anthology. I
haven't really placed it all the time, especially because this
hasn't had any like succession to it. Really, it's just
kind of stood in its own point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess why would you put this one as anthology, because,
like they, it could easily be a sequel. It doesn't
hurt the first one. They just allude to the first
move like, hey, this guy survived and he talked about
this alien.
Speaker 3: He doesn't anthology just because like they all all these films,
they always just seem to reference the first movie. They
don't seem to the best one. If it was like
a direct in line sequel, but like, okay, we got
Arnold back. You know, we got the whole, the whole,
not the whole career.
Speaker 1: That's supposedly who they wanted for Fishburne's character.
Speaker 3: But because he was like that and Danny Glover was
the other I believe.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, those were the two. I don't know why
Danny Glover didn't do it, but like Arnold, Arnold he
was in office and that that sucks because I think
that would have been a prom Now, I wouldn't have
wanted the route we went with Fishburne's characters, like he's
kind of a coward, like oh six months six mouths,
Like I wouldn't want that. But like if you were
to put Arnold back in here and be like, yeah,
this is the guy that survived these seasons, that to
me would make sense.
Speaker 5: The predator in the tree.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I actually don't think they would have made
him the way Fisherman was. They got Arnold back, and
unfortunately he was in office, and I hope, I hope,
I hope that preyed as well and we get more
predator and Arnold's the last He's the last piece we
got to get him back one more time before he
passes away. You know, they brought him back for five
fucking times and Terminator. It's time to get Predator now,
you know, So no kidding, fucking ay man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to just say that because I've never
seen the first one. It actually didn't click to me
until right now that that line about someone in the
jungle surviving being the only survivor, I didn't even click
that that was actually about.
Speaker 4: The first movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: Just like, oh, that's kind of a weird thing to
mention without any other talk about.
Speaker 4: Moops.
Speaker 8: It almost like.
Speaker 3: There's a movie before this, two movies.
Speaker 1: It's good, Yeah, but they don't even talk about the
second one. They're like, oh, there's this guy who got
in our ye he kind of hijacked it.
Speaker 3: This is regular yeah, mutilations.
Speaker 2: Technically there's four movies before this one coming out here Taylor,
because Travis said this is the last one, and then
a VP.
Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, a VP, so it'd be uh, six movies.
This would be the seventh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still waiting for We're still waiting for the eighth, right, Taylor,
still still wing for the three? No I I you know,
what now with crossovers so big and everything like that,
I could see him one day taking another shot at
it a little ways off, but I still think they
could because people want to see that. So what about
you too, Who do you want to talk about in
the group we talked about, I guess you didn't you
talk a little about roy So if there's anything more
you want to add, but if not, you can move
us along to someone else.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's just as the moment he got into
the the game Preserve, it was just yeah, I was
just jazzing with him. It was like, this guy's just
balls to the wall, like mean, lean killing machine and
was totally eating it up.
Speaker 1: And uh, that's what he's saying them, I'm a leaving
kill machine and fuck y'all.
Speaker 3: I just like that he stood on his own and
he was just trying to get a better layer of
the land. And all these other characters that just some
of them become too trusting, But with Royce, it was
just you know, let's keep moving, let's head her header
and his bell's like you want to see something fucked up,
and and then he's like dish out facts like the
suns haven't moved an inch really since we got here
and the compass thing was beenning all fucked up too,
So yeah, I like his character a lot.
Speaker 1: Where do you rank him as far as like the
leads who like as far as you got Dan Glover,
you got you got boyd Holbrook from The Predator, you
got Arnold, you got Royce? You know, not a VP,
because here.
Speaker 3: Arnold is definitely my number one. Yeah, and I would
probably put Royce. Ah, I could see him sneaking in
number two, and then Danny Glover and then yeah, obviously
a Chap from the Predator is dead last.
Speaker 1: I don't see where Amber mind Hunter comes in for
prey because I think she's gonna be high.
Speaker 3: So oh, I'm counting on it. I'm just getting super
jazz like. Yeah, anyways, say that for the of you, who.
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about? Next to Taylor?
Speaker 5: He looks he's pretty big. Look at that, he looks
pretty big.
Speaker 3: He's got some going on.
Speaker 1: No, he's very okay, just get the arms. He skipped
arm day, the biggest one every day. Man, He's just
well no, that's why I said he has like a
runner's body. He's fast, right, he's fast. No, I'm not
saying he's not in good shape. I'm just saying that,
like we're just talking about him compared to Arnold and
stuff like that. I just feel like they just had
to oil him up, like anytime he's walking around there,
like oiling his arms to make him look very like
he could just like a couple more days, like a
couple more arm days, look a bit more posted. But
he's got more meals.
Speaker 5: Probably skipped a couple of meals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to say I applaud his effort
to put the mud on, but it really did funk
all when you think about it. He barely put in
a mud on him. But I think he just did
it because Isabelle said us mud he was, you're.
Speaker 5: Supposed to put all over your body, just like.
Speaker 1: The predators ship. Oh and then like I'm joking, it
could have been mud, you fool, but no, like I
don't understand. I don't understand, like the first one. Arnold
figures that out right that you put mud on him.
And I'm not sure if this because the berserk wing,
but you put mud, you can't be tracked. He put
mud on something, go mate, and you he sees the
entire outline it's like you did this wrong, sir, Like
something's going on here and that's I know, yeah, yeah,
because that doesn't make sense. Arnold was fucking dripping in
mud in the first one, and he just looks like
he rolled around a little bit like a kid. But
do you think, Tay, that's me just because the berserk one,
Like when he hit the fire, that did more than
the mud. Because the mud, Arnold, you can't see all this.
You could, you could easily shoot him over for.
Speaker 3: Him, I think it was just him pulling every ace
he had up his sleeve, a horrible attempt at just
getting in the mud. And then yeah, the fire was
the main kicker for him. Just a high the heat signature.
Speaker 5: So that works that flash bang for the predator.
Speaker 1: I just love when he just kept running by the
predator and you just see like Roy's like scurry right,
like a little mouse. He's fast fast.
Speaker 2: Well you have to think though, that if this one
is supposed to be so far and they've done all
these thinks of practice and learn and change, I mean, obviously,
when your entire clan is killed out by a guy
covered in mud, you figure out how to not have
your sensors not pick up a guy covered in mud.
Speaker 3: Say that again.
Speaker 1: Say that riddle again.
Speaker 2: So the first one, the predators were all killed by
a guy covered in mud.
Speaker 1: Just just one. Like in the very it's just one predator,
just oneator, Arnold killed their ship hands mud. So, Jessica,
in the first one, there's only one predator that goes
on Earth anytime, so it's just the one that he outsmarts.
Speaker 4: That's yeah, okay.
Speaker 2: So in this one they talk about how every season
they take things and learn and train. So you would think, obviously,
when the one predator is killed by a guy covered
in mud, they learn and change their sensors to be
able to pick up guys covered in mud. I thought,
was my logic about why this didn't work?
Speaker 1: Was it the mask on or was it just his face?
I thought it was the predator's open face when he
was looking at.
Speaker 3: The mask is still on at this point, because the
conclusive way he finds him is because he flips the
sensors to detect heart beats. It detects where his heart
beats coming from. But answer your question, Jessica, they do
adapt actually, because in Predator Too, you learn that they
have a way of seeing. They didn't use mud, but
they use these suits that block the heat coming off
of their bodies, and they had lights that were using
ultraviolet lights. They weren't putting out heat as well, so
no heat was put out. But the predator caught onto
something going on and changed through like a whole cycle
of different visions and was able to see ultraviot a
light coming from the lights, and was able to see
where they were. So they do have that.
Speaker 1: What I hit about Royce is that he not hate
but's just so funny. And he tries to slow down
his heartbeat and it does nothing. The predator still just
shoots away. He's like fuck, Like he just let's take
another ad break and then Tyror has to tell us
who we're going next. Will be right back and we're
back to here. Who's next?
Speaker 3: I want to talk about Marshaw Lee here, the guy
that got picked for Blade. This is the role that
I think we need to get him in here.
Speaker 1: That is not how that happened. Remember he went in
and said I want to be Blade, and Kim Fight
was like, yes, you're gonna be Blade. So he was
not picked. He chose to play Blade that two time
Academy Award winner Moonlight, not.
Speaker 5: Because for Predators.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was picked for Predators.
Speaker 3: Uh, But yeah, I start with his character because right
when we meet him, he's just fighting, like Walter, just
just beating the ship of each other and Walter Walton, Walton,
Walton Walton. Yeah, he's just kicking the ship out of
each other. And I am disappointed that he does get
knocked out pretty quick early on, knocked out as quick
as Danny Treo. But he he's just I believe he's
in the camp and he's standing there and they're like
fighting everything, and then all of a sudden, the spears
just come up, and yeah, it just gets booby trapped.
So I think, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Liked his character. It was unfortunate the way it ended.
Speaker 6: This was definitely a first of all, I did not
realize it was Marsha Ali, and then I didn't really
I could not remember his character and like what relevance
he had and what happened to him, and it probably
should have been a bad warning that his fate was
not gonna end well.
Speaker 5: And yeah, a bit of a.
Speaker 6: Bitch death, you know, Like I know it's not his
choice to die by a trap, but I would have
preferred him to get his just full spine ripped out
by the predator.
Speaker 5: That's a little bit more of an honorable death.
Speaker 6: I would say, yeah, I think you always go yeah,
I think so.
Speaker 5: It'd probably be pretty damn not shot after.
Speaker 3: The heart spine ripped out.
Speaker 6: By like a predator, though, because like he would do
in the one motion where it's like a human doing it,
it'd probably be messy.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't die.
Speaker 1: Right away a couple of tries. He's just like, I
can't rip it out predator.
Speaker 6: Those seven feet tall, you know, like five hundred pounds,
they could probably.
Speaker 1: No, there's always one character that has to die this
way in these group situations, right, it's like the guy
and saw too that tries the key in the door
and just gets shot right away. Like, oh luckily that
guy sucks. But this is hershaw Lee. So yeah, I
had forgot because I forgot he was in there. It's
like I said, this was before he was Marshall l.
E one of the greatest actors of all time. So
it's just like Materia said that, like oh shit, or
I can't remember who put in the chain at first
with oh Jesus, I didn't even know that and I
knew he was gonna go pretty soon, just because again
I had no memory of him. I remember Walton Goggins
because I love him from Justified, but uh yeah, yeah,
him and Walton Goggins, I think they had a good
back and forth and I would have liked to see
play out a bit more. I thought, what they're trying
and I feel like that that they're kind of insinuating that,
you know, Walton Goggins was a little, if not just
blatantly racist, and I thought they were maybe gonna try
and put their differences aside the in life and death situations,
and they kind of did, because Walton Goggins was like,
oh well that was yesterday, but they just like they
killed that storyline really quickly. So I thought he was
good for what he was in. He was one of
the first ones to kind of start noticing some things
and whatnot. But uh yeah, definitely obviously didn't use him
to what the potential he could be down the line,
you know.
Speaker 6: So yeah, absolutely, I liked everything like around his character.
With the Walton Goggins dynamic, I agree that it it's
like they showed us another layer beneath that onion, but
they just didn't peel it back. You know, maybe that's
the best way to describe it, because.
Speaker 1: And I guarantee there's there's some maybe note or they
might have said like, hey, I don't know if that's
the place. I don't know if we want you to
tackle that. In a predator movie, people are just here
for action and stuff like that, So it felt like
they wanted to give like a little bit of that,
but like, yeah, we don't go too far. We don't
want to make this too like politically motivated. But I
think they would at least had some sort of it.
I guess it's it's kind of funny because it's similar
to what Walton Goggins is in Hateful eight, right, Like
that's like the same way with him and Samuel Jackson's
I guess maybe I'm just pitching that because I've seen
it done well in a movie that happens about I
don't know what's nine years later and stuff like that,
but alast didn't happen he.
Speaker 3: Uh guess not to speak too with Walton where he's like,
give me a gun, come on, man, you got two
fucking guns, and he just throws the little shive up
on Ali's like neck or whatever, and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is that Machetti that has the two guns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it was so funny because he throws a
knife on Ali's neck, but then Ali just like slowly
moves the gun up to his like, why didn't you know?
Like this what I mean, this guy's not Eleak Killer.
He didn't even know. I didn't know Oli was moving
a fucking gun to his head and he's like, oh whatever, dude.
Walden Gongs did not deserve to be here. A great actor,
but the character got taken out pretty easily too, Like
I just he was just a guy they wanted in
a prison jump suit. Yeah, and that's the and yeah,
all my sister, all his stuff. Does it just for me?
Is obviously all cringe stuff and stuff that definitely, I
guess in twenty ten, But there's that. There was the
rape and time jokes and stuff like all these things
where it's just like it's just for shock value. And
it sucks because I like Walton Goggin, so like he's
delivering these lines as well as he can, but they don't.
They just don't age well and you're just like, oh
my god, Like it was such a different air already
at that point, and again you could have some character
talking about these things, but they used them in like
a comedic like that's what I think, and Grace is like, yeah, totally,
it's that time, and then he moves away. So it's
it's a it's a strange choice, but.
Speaker 6: You feel like his character was really meant to signify that,
like all these people that were sent here like aren't
actually good people.
Speaker 5: Like they're actually just piece of shit.
Speaker 6: Because like if you don't have him, like without the
Tilford Grace like plot twist, I feel like you could
really just say that these guys are just like they're
just good army dudes, Like they weren't sent here on
any punishment or anything like that. Is that even mentioned
in the movie that they were actually sent here on
a punishment or.
Speaker 1: It's just no, I think they're well and I could
say because the other like the Yukuz guy's probably not
a good guy either, right, he's part of he he
used to he doesn't anymore, didn't say a word until
the very end of this movie. Well not and he
didn't make it at the end, but you know, just
anything on the honorable death, anything to say on those
two characters.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I have no idea who Alie is. You
guys talk about what did.
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I know that much.
Speaker 2: Now what I mean Travis is calling one of the
greatest actors of all time, and I'm looking no idea.
Speaker 4: I haven't seen he.
Speaker 1: Was, and he's one more oscar away from tying the record.
That man could probably break the record too well.
Speaker 4: Apparently he was Uncle Aaron from Spider Verse, So look
at that.
Speaker 2: I know one.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 2: Oh he was in Madden and at f L eighteen
long shout, good good.
Speaker 1: That really jumped start his career. He's the next Blade.
If you haven't heard that, he's the next Blade.
Speaker 2: I did see that on TB, so I got that
at least, And that's what happened.
Speaker 1: He went into He told Disney and Figgymorrow that he
wanted a meeting. They sat down, he told he want
to play and this guy no, and then five He's like, yeah,
You're gonna play Blade. So that's the power Alley has.
He's too good.
Speaker 5: If I can do that, I've never tried, So maybe.
Speaker 1: Who would you go for? Though you got know convincing
you can't do Peter Parker.
Speaker 5: I know I'll do some thinking like I got.
Speaker 1: Wolverine in the bag. I'm sure, I'm Canadian. I get
you absolutely, I'll show him the pictures. You're like, look,
I've been looking for you my whole life.
Speaker 5: Sorry, please don't send us yours.
Speaker 4: Taylor said it in those photos of him with a
predator mask.
Speaker 1: Viggy, I give you the next predator. Let me know,
put me in prey too. You're like, you got a
bulk up man.
Speaker 2: Uh So, I do think though with his death, so
the whole point of what Adrian did his character Royce
uh to lure them out and the fact that he
like dies in this trap and then no one really
does anything. You would think they would, least, you know,
because he was just standing there and all of a sudden
the spears just like go out right like there was movement,
So you would think you would fire towards him, like
sorry to kill him, but fire your guns at him,
because in theory, something had to activate those traps or
be around him for those.
Speaker 3: Probably just from the guy in the tree.
Speaker 4: That must be all back to that best predator in
the tree.
Speaker 6: I like to just think he like stepped on like
a like a platform, you know, like a very like
cheesy like dungeon platform where it's like a, yeah, he
just stepped on twig and yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: It's probably without the predator on the Totem was yelling
out because when they nudged me started freaking out.
Speaker 1: He's like, don't step back there, You're gonna win, academy ward,
don't step on there.
Speaker 5: He's actually just like a really nice That's why he
was the pacifist.
Speaker 3: He's baiting you.
Speaker 1: You're a trap.
Speaker 5: It's just their language. It seems so aggressive.
Speaker 2: That's why he hung up because he's a little wants
to save people.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he tied himself to the tree because they're gonna.
Speaker 1: I will fight no more, no more danger for me.
Speaker 5: Don't let me down. Don't let down.
Speaker 2: But okay, well, well we'll pretend he stepped on a
little platform and that nullifies that. But I did like
the kind of one real line that he has where
you know, oh, they took one, injured him, make him bleed,
make him call out for help, and then kill all
those who come to help him.
Speaker 4: I know, because I've done that.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: It really kind of gives that background to what a
piece of crap character he is too.
Speaker 4: So other than that, don't really remember many lines from him.
Speaker 3: You have the biggest trophies, you command the most respect.
Speaker 2: It's nice and and he was the one that said
stay away from that guy about good period.
Speaker 4: So and then yeah, just to talk about stands.
Speaker 2: I as cringey as they were, I still laughed at
his whole calm.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like a shock factor thing, right, You're
just not expecting him to say that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna rape so many fine pitches? Oh what time
is it?
Speaker 2: Five o'clock? Like I was just like, holy crap, how
did we get away.
Speaker 4: With this in twenty ten?
Speaker 2: Like I guess this movie is rated R, but it
was definitely not expected. I don't know what he's from
as well. He's another person that meant nothing to me.
So Jangle and change never finished it.
Speaker 3: You never Oh no, god, let's let's move forward.
Speaker 1: Let's move forward.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say one last thing on ma Hershali's character.
I liked how Heye had a similar moment too. Oh
my gosh, forgot his name. Now for the first Preyder
when he's just kind of like seen something in the
trees and then he's just like locking eyes, I feel
like I just I love those moments in Preder movies
when someone like kind of thinks that they that they
see something in the trees but nothing happens.
Speaker 3: But you're afraid of both bullshit, you're afraid of know.
Speaker 6: No, man, oh that age just like fine wine.
Speaker 1: Uh uh yeah. I feel like it has tub with
the acuzic. I feel like that's right up your alley,
you know.
Speaker 2: Oh, man, before we change, I know where I know
this guy from. I've seen one thing. He was the
transgender prostitute in Sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as soon as like they're snooping through all the
preader stuff or all the like the salvage stuff, I
guess I should say, and he finds that samurai sword.
Oh Jesus, it's just it's fantastic. And when he's in
that moment and like they play that Predator score again,
but this time they add like a a twist to it.
It's it's just I don't even know the name of
the instrument. It was like I had like a flute
component to it or something like that, and it was
just like, Oh, what's the funny some.
Speaker 1: Guy, But it was just so good.
Speaker 3: And then he just yeah, he turns like, oh you guys,
get out here. Any turns around, he just got the sword.
You stand there, And then I believe this was the
Falconer Predator that came out to play here. And yeah,
just that that whole scene was just super cool because
the preador obviously was like big respects like, oh fuck, Bud,
it's gonna whip the sword out, I'll honor that, and
just went to tango and with each other and it
was just such a cool scene. I love the choreography
of that and everything, and yeah, god damn, it's just
super cool just to embrace this, like I'm sure another
Predator is gonna like soup on down and be like,
oh man, we got this fucking dead human here and
we got our dead bro over here. Man, some fucking
wild shit occurred here. What did you guys think?
Speaker 6: Yeah, no, this Taylor, this was specifically like a boss
in that app in that Predator app.
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember it.
Speaker 6: I remember I remember because he kicked my ass so
many times in the tall grass and everything. But yeah,
like just like the scenery and everything, it's it's fantastic.
It's I feel like now on the on the second rewatch,
I it's just kind of like random of it.
Speaker 5: You just have this Zikuza guy.
Speaker 6: He finds this like ancient samurai sword and then he
just has like a samurai duel in like the tall grass.
Speaker 5: It's just like, Okay, are we really doing this right now?
It's like why not.
Speaker 6: We're in a predator hunting ground. Like this is no
pun intended there, but like this is just yeah, like
like a fun a fun scene to have. I liked
the epic moment when he when he slashed it. I
feel like, again, those moments could be seen cheesy and
I'm I I like understand they could be seen cheesy,
but I still really appreciated it. So yeah, mask, it's
like a it's like a paintball mask.
Speaker 3: To get that, I'd rock that in paint I'll be
heavy as fuck, but yeah, I love Yeah.
Speaker 6: Doesn't he has a like a shoulder cannon though that
would have been pretty No, he's comatic if he's shoulder
cannon the Yukuza Jones style.
Speaker 3: He's got the drone that he had on his shoulder, right,
so that's the thing that flies like scopes out the
area and everything.
Speaker 1: But get a shoulder cannon for paintball in.
Speaker 3: Canada at least like the oh he takes his shoes
off too earlier on, Like that's a bold play. I
keep the shoes on if you could.
Speaker 5: But yeah, steps on a twig, steps.
Speaker 1: On predator ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, what'd you.
Speaker 6: Guys with Tilford Grace's poisonous fucking plants? There's lots of those.
Speaker 1: I liked him for the fight scene. That's about it.
His character doesn't do much else. He was just a
quiet one and just I don't know. I think he
could have died a little bit worn too, but that's
not exactly what I need this movie to do. I
think it's scratches most itches I have, Like I'm looking
for a good action time on the venture friends and stuff.
I feel like you almost could have led with this
or had him do this earlier and get killed. But
I still liked the scene nonetheless, and it was a
it was a cool showdown, and I'm glad he uh
he got the killed. He had to sacrifice him subject
at the kill, but he's still got it. So honorable death, yep,
honorable death. Hello, waits anything else on this guy or
anyone you like?
Speaker 3: Samuraise?
Speaker 2: I Yeah, I mean it's kind of hard to have
much feeling to the character when, like he said, he
doesn't say much. I don't think that you can really
kill him off earlier though, with him being a kill
for the predator. We're sorry, like how he killed a predator.
If you kill him off earlier, then you'd lose that.
I guess if you change it and have put for
Grace in that position instead, Danny Trio or something like that, right,
have him die and said whatever it is. I think
either way, you're gonna have someone somewhere being a character
that doesn't have emotion. You can't have everyone talking.
Speaker 4: All the time.
Speaker 2: I didn't necessarily think the fight was all that cool
in the sense that I don't know if a guy
comes at me with a sword and I've got a gun,
that's not the point.
Speaker 1: Though he wants to go mono amano. They're all about
pride and win the fight, right, So that's why he
wants to test himself. And he lost that test.
Speaker 4: They both lost that test.
Speaker 3: That's a tie and true I would get I mean,
he did die, but he definitely stood like he held
his ground, stood there and let the prader's body collapse first.
So if he wins, that.
Speaker 1: For sure No, I don't know. I think you. I
think you either both got the loss or you both
got the win. You know, because if your goal was
to kill the other guy, technically you both won, you know.
So if your goal was to survive, they both lost.
Speaker 3: He probably stepped one of those poisonous.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the tech paralyzed you in the second he
was in the tall grass, just like wait to get
his ankle.
Speaker 1: Kept your shoes on, bitch. And who else have you
to about Isabelle? I like Isabelle. She's the perfect just
like good compass, sneering everybody. She's the hero of the story.
It's not really Roy. It's like, obviously he's all over
the posters everything like that too. But and I guess
he's kind of a protagonist, but to me, not really.
She's the more interesting one. And she's the one that,
at least for myself, I relate more to because she's
saving the innocent people or you know, trying to save
people and trying to do what's right and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: And you're definitely not as accurate as her. I've seen
your your kick camps.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's fine. I'm not saying that, but I'm saying, yeah, yeah,
in a real life situation, you know, I probably still
have to sacrifice you guys, you know, and stuff like that.
Now I'm joking, but no, I mean in the sense of,
you know, that's a good thing in call Duty you
can come right back. And Predator not so much. But yeah,
I like the character. You know, she turns Royce over.
She has some you know, good dialogue scenes like nothing
out of this world crazy. It's not a super well
written movie as far as like line dialogue, what you're
gonna remember in a week from now, But I liked
her enough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she was.
Speaker 6: She was great for what they need are or needed
the character to be in this movie, because yeah, as
you mentioned, she's she's guiding the company along like a
good moral compass, like she seemed to be making the
right decisions or questioning the weird decisions that Royce would
make when you know he's being a little little sus leader.
And yeah, goddamn, she was a sniper. She she's like
bulls eye, man. She she was hitting every shot. I
trust in her to watch my back, and I feel.
Speaker 4: Like, what's that she hit a tree one time?
Speaker 6: That is true, but nobody's perfect, so I'll give her
a pass. And honestly, if she saves me like three
times and then I die on the fourth, i feel like,
you know, I'm living on borrow time at that point. Anyway,
it's like she's saved me three times. So but yeah,
like I feel like also when she was filling in
like random stories of like oh, like we have this
guy that or heard about this guy who's Ernie, like
he's the one that survived. Like she she fit that
role good to just have those stories.
Speaker 3: So that was good. She's already blow her brains out too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was okay. You know, a bit of a
coward's death.
Speaker 1: You're you're there.
Speaker 6: And she's about to activated that quick time event when
that dog was on him. He was stabbing the ship
of the dog. Just off herself.
Speaker 1: No, I disagree. If you're coming to me and you're okay,
no matter what, you're gonna lose in this situation, and
it's gonna you don't know that what you don't know that,
but there's a small chance. But to me, I I
was completely in her camp as far as get mulled
to death by this dog, maybe taking somewhere and worse
unto you or just kill yourself and feel probably relatively
no pain. She made a choice.
Speaker 6: Do you do you go to shoot yourself? Like if
you're seeing it, it's like one hundred meets.
Speaker 5: I think she was at the right.
Speaker 1: No, she was at the right. That thing was so
close to her where it looked like there was gonna
be like that thing was gonna pounce on her. So no,
I think she made I had that even my notes
to shut that out, that she made the right call.
Speaker 3: But Walton, though, I mean, yeah, shouts to him. He
was like close and personal and he was just shanking
the ship.
Speaker 5: Who sings to live for Walton?
Speaker 3: Did?
Speaker 2: Is he?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: I didn't see him alive.
Speaker 3: At the end of the movie and the dog battle
between the two dogs.
Speaker 1: Her, that's all because trust.
Speaker 3: That's because the predators pulled theirselves up. We're not. If
we're not, we're going like the full, full, extended scene
of the movie here, we're talking just that scene of
the dog's attack. That's it. Then we know Walton survives,
and then she would have died because she was ready
to blow her brains.
Speaker 1: Out, or at the same time, those dogs would have
just kept coming and he would have died eventually.
Speaker 3: He could have kept just stabbing. He wouldn't run out bullets,
just kept shanking them.
Speaker 1: I think if she ran up on him, he's done.
But yeah, I guess he does it inanmo.
Speaker 2: But you know, well she says the same thing at
the end too, when her and tofur and the pit
and she's like, don't worry.
Speaker 4: If it comes to it all.
Speaker 1: Everyone, I can kill you, kill you goods.
Speaker 2: So that was actually what I thought you were talking
about when you were saying her being a coward. And
in my mind, I agree that why would I let
them have the like, the honor of killing me. Why
not just take that away from them. They brought me
here to have the fun of hunting me. Take that away.
It's the least I can do.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I agree. I wanted to talk about the
Russian next because I can't remember why I put this note.
I just put when the Russian Diyes fire explosion. Some
guests have put that in there because maybe with some
bad CG or something. I know, he like, maybe he
says it's cheesy line or something. But you know, here's
another kind hearted, soul character that I didn't mind. Poor
guy sacrificed himself for Tofa Grace, who was a piece
of shit and everything like that. So that sucks. But
you know, he had the classic just big old gatling
mini gun and stuff like that, and we didn't learn
much of them. He was a softie and he seemed
like he was one of the nicer soldiers. But unfortunate. Yeah,
he sacrificed the guys.
Speaker 5: The wrong So he's probably done some shade shit.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say too, like mini guns are not
effective against priners.
Speaker 5: Like every time we see these, we see this weapon
used in these movies. It does not take out anyone.
That is so many bullets that dog.
Speaker 3: I was in front of him when he used the minigun,
but he his accuracy was fucking atrocious. Yeah, and he
expended so much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was like a percent accuracy.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: That's luckily like nine in our bullets because we.
Speaker 1: Had the first movie. We thought the first movie was
bad when they just unloaded that clip and then.
Speaker 5: That's like multiple guns.
Speaker 6: So everybody is just flying, flying, firing into that forest
on that scene.
Speaker 1: It is, but I just like this one's even worse
because they just it feels like one goes away, one's dead,
and they just keep shooting, and then later on I
just love when he's like, we got load up and
conserve Ammal. It's like, what happened back there, Royce? What
were you doing? You know? Anything else?
Speaker 5: In the Russian I don't have much else to add.
Speaker 6: I I liked him throughout the throughout the movie, it
was I feel like, I don't know, like on the surface,
you see this big Russian dude with a big gun,
you just expected to be this like hard ass brute.
But yeah, he was kind of a softie and he
was nice to Edwin. Unfortunately, I mean he didn't live
long enough to see Edwin be a piece of shit.
But yeah, he he died an honorable man.
Speaker 5: He saves, He saved a.
Speaker 3: Dover race, took his fucking kid's photo too, like Nicola,
I didn't even ask for it back Psycho.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's what he thought about.
Speaker 3: You know, he used that photo for to bullsh his
way out. But that's the one thing with Nikolay.
Speaker 1: That like them kids, you're just staying here, buddy.
Speaker 3: When Nikola took that C four and put on his
chest and like the Prider was like lifting him up. Yeah,
I was just he chanted some line in Russian, which
I don't understand. But then just fucking boom, you got
the line just.
Speaker 1: Because gottaidled it.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 2: I can't say the Russian line, but it roughly translates
to what a mug you have as an attempt at
your one ugly mother?
Speaker 5: No, aug, it's better though, because it's in Russia.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in Russian.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a fun thing. Yeah it doesn't. I don't
hear it and be like, oh wow, you can only.
Speaker 1: Three that's three movies, Arnold.
Speaker 3: That if you're Russian though, and you could translate.
Speaker 1: I can be upset now now every time I watched it,
I know he's just saying you're one ugly motherfucker, like
Arnold again, and just you know what makes it even
worse is Danny Glover said and Predator too as well.
And now, yeah, I didn't get I've thought about rewatching
right now, because we're doing these rewatches. I might put
on for sleep, but at least Predator two had your
one ugly and that term of the preda one motherfucker.
Speaker 6: The Predator's gonna say it in Russia now, yeah, but yeah, no,
that's lame.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough then, but yeah, who else we got
Danny Treo. I got nothing to add. I got nothing
to add. He's there because Robert Ririgo's boy. He Robertriguez
uses him in anything, and here he is. I actually
would prefer him be in the movie more. But that's
all I have to say on him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I like the scene where he's uses a trap. That's fun.
And I like the reveal. You think he's alive, but
if you've watched Predator films before, you know he's not alive.
You know it's just a trap. But I do like
she shoots him and he's still like, he help me.
I would love the multiverse where he's actually still alive
and he's actually like, help.
Speaker 5: Me shoot him again.
Speaker 1: I'm still alive.
Speaker 3: Hit my heart.
Speaker 1: They just keep missing I got, and he's just a
whole clipping. I'm just bleeding out. I thought you guys
were elite hunters.
Speaker 5: She's like right through his arm.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, sad way to go, man, that would be terrible.
Speaker 5: Are we ready talking about Nolan?
Speaker 1: Is that too for Grace?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Lawrence seven seas Oh right, okay, said yeah, yeah open.
Speaker 6: I honestly, this was something that I completely forgot about like, honestly,
I completely forgot about this character. I completely forgot about
like the switch. So when like the cosplay Predator like
shows up and then I'm like, what the Like, this
is like Jurassic Park three, like.
Speaker 5: This is some kids, this is some kid?
Speaker 8: What do you go? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's himn the thing?
Speaker 6: Well, I was meaning to ask too, because, uh, Travis,
you said that.
Speaker 5: You ordered was it this?
Speaker 1: This?
Speaker 5: What do I have on screen?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 1: You were talking about Laurence Fishburn's Bad Predator caused by
weren't you?
Speaker 5: Well, now I'm talking about the one on screen?
Speaker 1: Okay, well there it is. It's the one that you ordered,
Yeah it is.
Speaker 6: They did the one like Laurence Fishburns. Is that the
one that you got?
Speaker 8: Though? Yes?
Speaker 1: Pretty much?
Speaker 6: Yeah, sounds probably this. It's pretty cool, great, it's yeah,
that's a great paintball outfit too. But if you're expecting
this and then you get this, I don't know what. Nonetheless,
when he showed up and then it was kind of
exciting because again, like I thought, I knew this movie,
but I really forgot about this storyline.
Speaker 5: And then.
Speaker 6: When he has this twist though, I I literally laughed
out loud because like he is just such a kooky
character already.
Speaker 5: And then he's just like panning the flames.
Speaker 6: And he's talking to his little imaginary friend there and
forget what he says specifically, because I watched this like
on the weekend, but man, he got me. He got me,
like I couldn't take him seriously, it was so ridiculous.
And he's like scurrying away like he's I don't know,
a rat in his little rat hole. And then sure
enough the predator just finds him in the hallway.
Speaker 3: But he's like he's whispering like this is your idea,
Like six more mousive feet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I said that earlier. Six more mouse
fills six more and he's just like he's just cranking
the gas up and he gets the fire and stuff. Yeah, yeah,
he just has this little Yeah. Honestly, I liked it
a lot. It's fun. Lawrence Fishburne. I think it's a
fun twist as far as Okay, you meet this guy,
he's like the guy that survived these seasons. He's the
trusted guy. He brings you and he's give me all
this information. He seems a little off, but he's still
like friendly off, so it's like, Okay, we get drusted
and the turn happens. So it's not a big chunk
of the film. It's actually a detour that I quite like,
and I think it's a fun one, and I do
like that he's just like he says something to the Predator,
just like I've been waiting for you. You finally Oh. I
think he says, he finally found me, big dog, and
then he just blows up, like instant blows him up
and everything like that. So yeah, I liked the whole segment.
Speaker 6: I will say too, like I did like when he
was initially like there and then he's just talking really quietly,
and then he's kind of just like if I can
hear you, like they can hear you, and then like
that whole secret now, and then I like when he
brings them.
Speaker 5: To the base.
Speaker 6: I always like when, like I think that's why I
like Dassic Park three actually is because there's this like
chaos going on and there's these little like hideouts like
hitting away that that's always fun for me.
Speaker 5: So I feel like I like that.
Speaker 6: But then when he just yeah, he did that twist.
Speaker 3: God, people are particular about people touching your ship. Yeah,
but what do you do, Like, you're just this guy.
He's badass. He's in preader attack, he rescues you, and
then he's like, yeah, he's got.
Speaker 5: Like porn omegs like all over his.
Speaker 8: People.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got oh my gosh, he's got female predators
on his walls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at this one's on.
Speaker 5: That topic, was being to ask you this is cannon.
Speaker 3: Probably specific game, but who decided that there?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Orney Horny Indivision.
Speaker 3: I feel like this is this Mortal Combat related or so.
Speaker 5: I have no idea, but there are predators.
Speaker 1: With Triple d's over here.
Speaker 3: There are I gotta find my Predator documentary and apple
that Patreon.
Speaker 1: What do you think Aboutlaurence Fishburne.
Speaker 3: Oh, he was freaking awesome googling that did not I
shouldn't have googled that.
Speaker 8: Come on, he's gonna have that one ready.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Laura's Fishburne.
Speaker 1: His character was it was it was awesome.
Speaker 3: To get that that uh that old school like I've
been here for such a long time.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: His quirkiness or whatever just was next level, just talking
to himself and everything like that and doesn't really kick
in at least until like he locks them in the
little room with them, and then he starts talking to
himself and it's like, oh, this guy's kind of fucked up.
But yeah, he's, uh, what are some other lines he has?
He's like he's like seven seasons and he looks off
to the wall ten wow. And then he starts talking
about like the alien ship and he starts laughing at
his invisible buddy, like, you know, we've been thought before
about comment during the alien spacecraft and who's gonna fly it?
And it's just whispering all his ship. But yeah, he
he It seemed like he was just embracing death in
that moment talking to Big Dog. I was just ready
to go.
Speaker 6: I mean it's probably a relief for him, honestly, Like
that's not much living, you know, like that where does
he ship?
Speaker 5: He's probably just shipping by.
Speaker 3: Big mining thing. He probably had a few places.
Speaker 6: No where does he ship? Or you said ship? Okay,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I thought you all
throw That's why was using.
Speaker 5: I found this bucket of mud.
Speaker 1: It's no mud.
Speaker 4: It's a long time to come back.
Speaker 1: Let's let's take another ad break and then we'll probably
be back with some uh, foul found thoughts, scenes, et cetera.
So we'll be right back, and we're back justa We
were just discussing Laurence Fishburne's character. He's the guy who's
been there for seven ten seasons?
Speaker 4: You know, is it ten seasons? He said seven seasons.
Speaker 3: He does it first and then his visible friend make.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, my bad, I'm in the same campus Kirkland
that I didn't remember him at all. I so I
actually kind of ruined it for myself because I searched
up predators in his name popped up and I was like,
what where is he? And I didn't remember where he
popped up, But I I didn't fully expect him to
go all crazy and turn on them because I didn't
remember his character. So it was a little bit of
a surprise there. And you know, I think it's it's
kind of needed in the sense that it gives you know,
the samurai his sword and the convict his vest so
that way he can get shot things like that. But yeah, overall,
it's I think it's kind of a fun idea. I
think you've been there long enough that eventually you do
start to go crazy, and if you've got no one
else to talk to it converse to. You know, making
up an imaginary friend is probably something that would happen,
but uh, I don't know. I think he's really just
kind of a vessel to move things forward more than
anything else.
Speaker 1: There you go, uh, anybody, because we didn't talk specif.
I feel like we talked about tover Grace, but we didn't.
But was there anything that specifically we want to say
on him? If not, we can move on to somebody else.
Speaker 6: Completely forgot about that twist, like completely, So when that happened,
that was another It was just ridiculous. I feel like
the whole movie I was just I was waiting for
or not even that. I was just like everybody fits
but this guy, and it just doesn't make sense. And
I didn't for one moment think that there was a twist.
So I just felt ridiculous when it happened because it's like,
of course, of course, this nerdy guy is actually like
a fucking body eater or something like who knows what
this guy does.
Speaker 5: He's just very weird and kooky.
Speaker 6: It did make sense, but then when the twist happened, it, yeah,
I was like face bombing. It wasn't it's not even
like I laughed at it was just like, of course.
Speaker 3: When Royce is like, you know, they're all killers or
they're all players, he doesn't belong to frying to tilt
for grace, You're like, yeah, it doesn't belong.
Speaker 5: He just went with it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6: And like I think when he like when he twisted,
in my mind, I'm like, why is this even happening?
Like what's his plan here? He's just gonna kill Isabelle
and then say like, I don't know, man, Okay, yeah, fair.
Speaker 1: I like the twist, but it is weird at the time.
It's just like he they're already dead to rights and
she's like, I'm just gonna kill you before the preasors
kill you. I guess, cool, bro, Like, I guess that's it.
So I think they could have I like the twist.
I think they could have used it at a better moment.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: So it's interesting when they used him as canon fodder,
they just decked him out with grenades and just it
was very brutal too, because the Predator was just like
walks up to him, just extends the blade and just
like pushes it into his back and then just pulls
it out. It's just brutal.
Speaker 1: He just has like every grenade that's ever been known
to man. Actually, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Was just gonna say that, you know, at the beginning,
definitely I remember there being some kind of twist with him,
but I couldn't remember what it was. So you kind
of watched the movie going, oh, yeah, he's the medic.
He's there in case all of these people fighting get
injured against the predator. He can help so they can
fight longer. But then when he gets Nikolai to go
back and help him and then just completely leaves him,
at that point, you're just like, Okay, what the fudge
is wrong with this guy? You're supposed to be the medic.
He didn't say like no, leave me and go. He
just left him at that point. But I just completely
don't understand why paralyzed Isabella. You know, what is the
point of it? I don't to me that the twist
is great unexpected how they revealed it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: It kind of offer her up or something like that
to the predator like make well never nds.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the way for the episode.
Speaker 4: Does it make sense to anybody?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Do you know it's.
Speaker 1: Just it's just for the twist to me, just to
do like, oh, this is the guy who's been shay
the whole time. But again, yeah, I guess he could
kill her, but then he's just gonna get killed right away.
Speaker 4: So maybe he thought it was five o'clock or something.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but unfortunately was predator clock.
Speaker 4: She said.
Speaker 2: He said that she could feel everything, so you know,
m he was looking to feel everything too, I hope not.
Speaker 1: For all, you know, he just felt a bunch of explosions.
So I looked at the cast list. We went over everybody,
so is there any moments or anything we wanted to
shout before her thoughts of ratings go ahead?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Good. But I like the looks of the predators
in this one. Made the Berserker one.
Speaker 6: With the nice little like jaw pieced onto his I
feel like that's such an intimidating look.
Speaker 5: That was pretty bad ass.
Speaker 6: And as you mentioned, like the Falcon predator guy with
that device, that was pretty badass. And again, I I
love gadgets, and whenever I see like a different gadget
from the last movie, I feel like I'll at least
give it a plus point for that. So I like
that being showcase and then the other one that took
out Nikolai. Did he have any like special like things
with him, Taylor, like a I don't know, like a
special ability or something, or you just had like a
boor boor test helm. Probably just like head butt people.
I would imagine he looked a little bit smaller than
the other ones too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a plasma cast or he was just
the tracker. Yeah, all their names have the Falconer. We
have mister Black who is the Berserker, and then the Tracker,
and then the Classic Predator.
Speaker 6: But we do a quick little The Classic Predator is
that the one in the tree.
Speaker 3: As one on the totem.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The Tracker though, is also known as flusher or dog handler,
So he's the guy that was kind of working with
the dogs, which makes sense.
Speaker 1: So he would prefer dog handler flush boy.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Uh so the Classic Predator is he the class predator
because he was like a different race than those other
predators because they had like bug eyes, sort of like
the Berserker did when you take his helt off.
Speaker 3: They referred to they called the Classic Predator because it's
kind of tribute to jungle Hunter, which jungle Hunter was
the name for the original predator, that's what you think.
Like they just called him classic Pretter because he is
a classic predator.
Speaker 5: Basically, it was not the same one like I got murdered.
Speaker 3: No, not the same one, but like the same part
of the.
Speaker 5: Same species or subspecies.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And then again this is where I asked on my
lore on the Yauchers, is are they just like all
from the same planet and they just live in different
burrows or something.
Speaker 5: That's what they look different.
Speaker 3: It's two species are from different planets, and as far
as I believe, like predators have different worlds they live.
And that's one of my favorite things too. With a requiem,
you get a glimpse at like the predator home world
and you see like tons of ships like on highways
and stuff. It's fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: Just the planet they've taken over and they use for
like hunting.
Speaker 3: This is and that's something I like too, because you
have like the old mining equipment that no one was
hiding in and that it could be from the Preader's
I don't know. I think it's from just another alien
race that was just mining there. At one point praders
came in and just made it a game preserve.
Speaker 1: So so how come there's the two tribes that are
sharing this planet that are game preserved or anything.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say they're sharing.
Speaker 5: Because the other one was just on display, right, Yeah,
but that's.
Speaker 1: What I mean. How did that happen? At one point
one of them had to take it over? The planet
is like a hunting preserve. And then which tribe came
after like retake it over? They just get their own planet,
you know.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think I think it was just a
matter of this when Preider was just subducted or taken
and the pred the Berserker Preaders just strung them up
and this is their planet that they rule with.
Speaker 1: So sounds to suck.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited to get to Ragua. I don't think
i've seen it. I feel like I've started it and
it was like a cam virgin and I'm like, nah,
not why.
Speaker 3: I feel like it's up your alley. If you like
Drass Park three and stuff, then yeah, hell yeah.
Speaker 2: Playing two predators too in this movie. Yeah, did the
Berserker and not the Falcon but the other one, the Flusher.
Speaker 3: The Flusher.
Speaker 1: Were playing the Predator movie, the Flusher Predator.
Speaker 5: He just introduced himself as the Berserker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I play the dog handler, it says here on
the credits here the flusher. No, I'm definitely the definitely
the dog handler. All right, plussure anything else to shut
up before we give our final thoughts in a rating.
Speaker 3: The uh. One other major scene that I really really
loved in this film was when they were coming up
to excuse me, they come up to the ridge and
no one's died yet, but they come up to that
ridge and they just this again that's score it kicks
in and it's it's just so epic, just crank that
fucking base and they're just looking like they don't even
cut to what they're looking at, but like Walt and
it's just like like his closing his eyes and like
whoa like reopening them and everyone's just gasping for air
and it just cuts to like two planets in the sky,
like totally, it's just it's and again the CGI Roy said,
what's that?
Speaker 1: Do you know what Roy said?
Speaker 3: Where I need a new plan? But no, it's just
it's incredible scene CGI was immaculate for me. I loved it.
And yeah, it's just visually that's a beautiful wallpaper there,
Like just I couldn't imagine being in their shoes.
Speaker 1: Have you made it a wallpaper yet?
Speaker 3: I'll make one for you?
Speaker 1: No, I said, have you made it a wallpaper?
Speaker 3: Not for myself, but I will for you.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a beautiful wallpaper, you said. I
just feel like it'd be right up your alley to
be putting that on your phone.
Speaker 3: You know, I'll make some for all you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I really like that moment because it just realized like
how fuck they actually are? You know, like you can't
just get to something. It's like, okay, I'm trapped. I'm
not even on the moon, Like where the hell do
I even go?
Speaker 1: Like and then and like how did he do? How
did he fly this ship away without it being in it?
It was there just autopilot or something.
Speaker 2: Sad that's why he like selected that it was going
to Earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he just jumped out last minute, What do
you mean who jumped out? Because Agrian Brody like didn't
go on.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, there's an agent Brody that.
Speaker 1: I'm Agent bro Yeah.
Speaker 5: It's pretty badass.
Speaker 3: And one other thing too, just that other alien that
was killed too. It would have been cool to see
more of the other like species dropped off, But I
like that it's not just limited to just humans on
this planet. It's a whole variety of different species. And
that thing that was just kind of murking around, it's
very reminiscent of the initial suit that was from uh,
the original Predator design. You can kind of see it
in like the way they design, like to have the
face mask and stuff, a little bit like that. Very different,
it's on right, but similar in sum reguards. But yeah,
very cool concept.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I don't remember it. I remember,
but right the river moster.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, someone else go, I'm going to pull up
a photo.
Speaker 1: Oh I shouldn't have said anything there, you know, it's
almost anybody else have anything else to shut out?
Speaker 5: I have no more notes. They're depleted.
Speaker 3: Jessica chasing tof for grace.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I remember a little bit.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yes, there's a side by side comparison.
Speaker 1: Right right, I see is that John Claudeen there?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was the original pred.
Speaker 5: Or Jessica to say, you know, I'm so glad they
changed that.
Speaker 6: I am too, especially like if it would have been
the original, you know, because that would have been that's
the look that's the classic.
Speaker 5: Or when you see Buddy touched to the tree, that
would be this guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like this is an elaborate prank and
that is not at all true.
Speaker 1: That's what he looked like, and that was actually John
Claude van dam As well. There's lots of lore behind it.
So who's this guy just holding a fucking fish in
the photos? I don't know, River. This guy's a predator
to the River Monsters.
Speaker 3: River goes first in the images, but then yeah, the.
Speaker 1: Fish are posting about this guy. Look out for him.
He's sucking up our own colony. It's the same guy.
Who's this Anthony Hopkins looking motherfucker.
Speaker 5: It's a River Monsters guy. God, you don't want River Monster.
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Is this a real thing?
Speaker 3: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you punking me?
Speaker 3: No, that's a real thing about I think it's watching.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a thing. I'm pretty sure my stepdad watches it.
Speaker 1: All right, get this off your while I drop my
final rating here. I uh yeah, there's so much more
I can say. It's an enjoyable movie. It's a good
action movie. It is a fun like I said, introducing
new concepts with the Predator planet different species, different types,
the whole lore, as far as the hunting ground stuff
like that. I think it's all cool stuff. It actually
is something that feels refreshing to the predators of it,
not just oh, predator trying to kill these people, you know,
for some odd reason. So yeah, I really like it.
I'll give it a seven out of ten. That's the
right where I'll come back and watch it again. I
will watch it again. I think it's kind of right
now everything for the retro. So I feel like everyone
a while to say, Okay, I gotta do some Predator watches,
and I was looking forward to watching this one, and
I liked it, of course. Yeah, there's some cgs and
the greatest of some character moments that you're like, we
talk about Topra Grace and others. Ah, there's some stuff
that doesn't dated the greatest, but yeah, someven had ten
for me. That's where I rank Predators, And I guess
I won't say where I rank it because we'll wait
till we watch them all that they give our our
letter box sort of less. But uh yeah, seven at ten.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's my favorite predator. Oh, I'll put it. I'll
throw it out there. It's the top number one you've seen.
Speaker 3: Okay, good thing, accurate reading and a VP.
Speaker 2: Wow, oh if we're including AVP, I don't know. I'd
have to rewatch a VP. When we do our Alien
retros and then our Alien Versu pretros retros, then I'll
get I'll add that in.
Speaker 5: And theres predator, like Travis was shouting out earlier.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that that was already in this one.
Speaker 5: B VP.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, great movie. I had fun rewatching it.
I don't know that I will ever rewatch it again
because unlike Travis, I don't know where he has the
time to watch as much as he does. I I'm
not so luxurious in my movie rewatching abilities.
Speaker 4: But it's a fun watch.
Speaker 2: If you haven't watched it and for some reason you're
listening to this retro debating if you should watch it,
and you've made it this far, I recommend watching it.
Speaker 1: That's fair, you say, because there's lots of times on
Twitter there's this like trending tweet that comes up where
it's like name a movie. More than seven times, I'm like,
why is that a thing? Why is that?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Oh fuck, I can see It's like there's I've seen
too many movies more than seven times, so I don't
know what that is, but lack of sleep.
Speaker 5: I'll go next. I I quite enjoyed this movie.
Speaker 6: I'm I haven't revisited since that first time until now,
and I don't know. I probably will throw this on
at some point. I feel like it's fun enough, just
like I don't know the action being in the jungle,
there's fun enough action sequences to.
Speaker 5: Just throw it on.
Speaker 3: I like to be in the jungle.
Speaker 6: I like to be in the jungle sometimes I like
to I like to nap and then wake up and
I'm in the jungle.
Speaker 5: I feel like where am I falling?
Speaker 3: Are falling?
Speaker 5: Just wake up screaming?
Speaker 1: Land in some ship from Laurence Fishburn.
Speaker 6: I hope not God, I'd be a nightmare. But yeah,
this this one's fun. I think I'm gonna give an
eight out of ten. I think some some goofy things
with like Lawrence Fishburn's character just I don't like, I
get it, it makes sense, it's just it really threw
me off, and Edwin's turn toil for Grace's turn really
was not needed at all in my eyes. But alas,
I think it's a solid Predator installment. Predators were looking good.
I'd love to now that we're like what year was
this movie?
Speaker 5: Twenty ten?
Speaker 6: Twenty ten like that, like like coming from the first
Predator in the eighties when they would have like the
thermal vision and then now like, oh man, it's just
it looks good, you know, like like all that stuff
looks fantastic.
Speaker 1: And you know what, this is the first time. Obviously
we've only done the first two, but both of them
are like, man, they don't do the cloaking device. Well,
they haven't nailed that down. I thought this movie nailed
the cloaking down look fantastic or the other ones. It's like, yeah,
you guys are trying your best, and I can't remember
what it's like in The Predator, So, like I said,
I might watch it again. But that's what makes up
for what pray is. It'll be older, but you'll have
this new tech now.
Speaker 5: So yeah, absolutely, And I didn't get some.
Speaker 6: Weird lenin drugs first aid kit, you know, repair job
like I did the other one.
Speaker 1: So no, you just got good CG. I was a
little wonkey there when the Predators were getting stuf cut
off like that when that one got his head cut off, man,
that just looked like a complete CG model for lots
of it. So but you know, small budget.
Speaker 4: That green blood, neon green blood.
Speaker 1: That's what they bleed, you know.
Speaker 5: I love that detail. That's fantastic.
Speaker 1: If it bleeds, you can kill it, tay Field. But
to Dune for this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this movie is again absolutely legendary. I'm not gonna
give it a ten a ten because you know, talking
about certain things that didn't age well, I'm not gonna
slap a ten out of ten rating on Fitch Rape
in Time. That's just that's not good. But I am
going to go a full nine out of ten though
it's Uh, it's got so many other components that I
love to see brought in and added to the overall
Predator universe, and just getting the whole concept of a
game preserve on the planet and just some of thes
my most favorite scenes of all time in cinema was
really good. It's just it's overall, it's a fantastic movie
where they tried to tackle with these characters and stuff,
and it's something I'm gonna watch again and again and again.
As far as preader movies go, it's definitely the one
that I would watch the most just because it's an
easy watch and it's just got a lot of scenes
that I really really like. I like how it starts
off with Okay, we are familiar kind of with what's
going on. We can really get into this and it
still has so much mystery at the same time. Yeah,
but it's something I wish that we always got a
sequel to. I don't know if you saw the comic
book stuff I was sharing earlier Kirkland, but there's some
like there's some stuff here where they have like romance
Royce and Isabella, and then Preder like interrupts, so they're
like getting it on and Royce starts rock and Predator
tech and pull it. He's doing the costplay Preder cosplay thing.
But there's a cool stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: Well, there we go, we've done it. So yeah, like
I said, next week will be the Preda we release,
and then the next one we'll do a live one
will be Pray and then and the news casts do
a ranking. So uh, ladies, gentlemen, thank you very much
for tuning into this one. I promise when you hear
from his next it'll not be boring.
Speaker 4: Bye.