Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons.
Speaker 2: Throwing some ice mix in some vodka. A podcast from
the Mac of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven
by Victor Chrysler Dods jeep Ram. It's Billified, the Bill
Moran Podcast.
Speaker 3: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on,
Thanks for telling a friend.
Speaker 4: Wow, it's late. I didn't realize how late it is.
Speaker 1: That's all right.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: No, you don't have to apologize too.
Speaker 4: Sorry, you don't have to.
Speaker 1: Apologize to you.
Speaker 4: Oh poor Dan, so far that evening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, walk into a puppet show.
Speaker 3: Finger.
Speaker 4: I was, gentlemen, it's all good.
Speaker 1: Everything's good.
Speaker 4: Anything fun.
Speaker 1: No face plants today, No God, no, not at all.
Speaker 4: No faith.
Speaker 3: No, I don't even know where to begin. I was
gonna start here tonight, and I thought this would be
something that I could do with you and I because
earlier today somebody wrote me about the podcast and I said,
I have some thoughts on things with the podcast and
where I want to go and what I want to do,
and they're like, oh, you're gonna blow everybody out, and
I go absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I got some thoughts. I always got thoughts, So I'm
glad you brought your thoughts to my thoughts.
Speaker 3: So I said, but there are certain topics with certain
people that I wouldn't be comfortable bringing up. And I
was thinking a lot today because I talked to my
mom and I needed confirmation on something that she did
not give me confirmation on.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: That's something you really needed confirmation on, Like, well, is
your type of situation not necessarily?
Speaker 4: Not necessarily, I will tell you what it is.
Speaker 1: Don't you love me?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, I had nothing to do with it. I think
my hair is a mess and now I'm a mess.
So I just want you to know that tonight.
Speaker 4: A lot of things.
Speaker 1: It's spent three years. Bro, dude, they're not leaving.
Speaker 4: They're hearing so much ship over No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, really yeah, I have to but no,
it's true.
Speaker 4: No, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing people talk so about. Nothing.
Speaker 3: My dad used to I thought my dad always said
he wanted to make a movie. And I've talked about
this already, so forgive me for repeating, but it'll come
back to why I wanted to have this conversation with Dan.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: My dad used to say, I swear he wanted to
make a movie about really fat, overweight lifeguards.
Speaker 4: And they would be up.
Speaker 3: On the chair and watching somebody would be drowning and
they're climbing down and they're huffing and puffing, and I
swear he said that over and over and over. So
the day after he died, my sister and I decided
to go to the beach in Maine.
Speaker 1: And is this when you dripped the ice cream on yourself?
Speaker 4: Yes? Okay, yep was after that, so yes, because I
put I creamed myself. That's right, I put my creamed myself.
I did. I was a mess.
Speaker 3: So we went to the beach and as we're looking
for parking and all this stuff because it's it's on
the street parking, and we're driving around, driving around, and
I would see young girls in red bikinis with the
life like the lifeguard belt.
Speaker 4: They had the float device.
Speaker 3: They had like the waist they could wrap around your
waist for floatation and other things, other things.
Speaker 4: But they were all right there. They had the equipment on.
Speaker 1: I remember saved by the bell the beach, the beach arsa,
you got it.
Speaker 4: So my sister and I walked down the beach.
Speaker 3: Now I think my dad as I'm learning, was tuned
into each one of us. And I hope I'm not
talking too much about my dad, but it's a little
fresh so because he would say things to me that
I found out he didn't say to the other two,
which made me realize what a degenerate I was. If
he wasn't around, I.
Speaker 4: Really might have got off the rails. He kept me
right on there.
Speaker 3: So as we're walking down the beach, we get all
the way to the end, and a lot of rocks
and stuff at this but it's main and I look
to my left and there is the biggest, the fattest
lifeguard in a one piece female with a giant belt
around it. And my sister does not play this kind
of shit. This is not my sister's game.
Speaker 1: Like making fun of them, right, I'm making.
Speaker 4: Fun of them. Hit Her big thing is, you know, nothing.
Speaker 1: Like she would body shame this person.
Speaker 3: Not so much body shaming, but yeah, body shaming. She's like, look, everybody,
we don't need to do that if the world is
cruel enough, and why are we doing this?
Speaker 4: So I whereas her brother made a career out of it.
I looked to my right and Toby, you see this brow.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, which one's the way watcher?
Speaker 3: I fucking looked to my right dad, and I turned
to my sister and I go, please tell me, Dad,
talk to you about the movie you.
Speaker 4: Wanted to make. Nope, I go, wait a seconds. He
never told you about the movie he wants to make
about the old fat Light.
Speaker 1: You didn't tell you the treatment that he wrote.
Speaker 4: He goes, no. I go, well, I go, kat Katie,
do you see? She goes, I see it. I go,
that is the fattest lifeguard I've ever seen.
Speaker 3: I mean, that is she this big, big blonde girl,
one piece at off And I go.
Speaker 4: She has the equipment right? She goes, yees, she does.
Speaker 3: I said, okay, And I tell her this the plot
of Dad's movie or the premise or whatever. And so
today I'm sitting at my computer and inspiration hits me.
Call your mother right now and ask her if she
remembers this movie that Dad talked about.
Speaker 4: I call my mother. My mother's like no, I don't, no,
not at all. I go, come on.
Speaker 3: She goes, well, I blocked a lot of those years out, Billy.
And I'm like, okay, but please tell me nothing. Nothing
I got no confirmation on the fact that my dad,
I swear to you, I couldn't have come up with
the premise because I never I remember being a kid
going I don't find it that funny. Then as I
got older, I go, yeah, I get the juxaposition. And
he loved like I think secretly, my dad loved the
Blues Brothers because he would always go he would laugh
so hard at when they were behind the chicken wire
and they're singing It's Hard to be a Woman and
people are slow dancing and crying. My dad love that
scene like he did, and he loved There was a
Saturday Night Live sketch that I didn't know he loved.
My brother and sister said it was when they did
Natalie Cole sings with all her father's dead friends and
they they bring him out and all she does is
like repeat a line or something, and I guess my
dad found that so funny. Anyway, I got no confirmation
on this, but my sister goes, that's a signal from
your dad. And I bring this up to you because
you have been through this. And my mother said something
to me today that resonated with me. But I don't know.
I went I don't know how to do this. He goes,
I hope you truly grieve at some point for your father,
And I'm like, two weeks ago, I lost my dad,
and to be honest with you, Dan, I'm still figuring
out what that sentence even means. I don't even know
what that fucking sentence means. Do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Like it's one of these things where, yeah, he's gone.
It wasn't in my everyday life anymore. I'm sure there'll
be something at some point where, but I'm like, how
do you I don't even know how to begin to grieve?
You know what I'm saying. And this is the guy
who protected me literally forever in many many ways. There
were financial things as as an adult that he would
jump in and you know, send you a check and whatever.
So yeah, and I'm like the only thing I know
and more from a philosophical standpoint, was a guy named
Victor Franklin. Victor Franklin was an Austrian Jew, ended up
in Auschwitz, lost his wife, I believe, lost his parents
as well, possibly his kids.
Speaker 1: He was just the guy who played dead and snuck
out of the camp.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: He was a neurologist and a psychiatrist later on in life,
and he's a survivor. And he wrote a book called
Man Search for Meaning, and it was really about like
just he felt like the truth thing of life was
searching for its meaning. And I always say there is
no meaning other than the meaning you apply to it.
Maybe that's maybe I'm wrong. I have to go back
and look at the book. It's been years since I
even thought of this book. But he lost his wife, parents,
and brother in the camps.
Speaker 4: That's what it was like. Man, I made some notes
and I'm like, he didn't glory.
Speaker 3: He doesn't glorify death, but he insists the awareness of
death sharpens your ability to live, like sharpens what really matters.
Oh yeah, and I'm going sure. I mean death is
a great teacher. What does this show me about life?
I think that you know you there's a shocklock. There's
a shocklock.
Speaker 4: Yes, and you need to do everything you want to
do to live to the fullest. Don't wait. Have this
great ada, I got this great idea. Hey, you know
what we should do?
Speaker 1: Go do do it?
Speaker 4: Go actually do it? So it makes life urgent.
Speaker 1: So there's this book that we had a friend Bjsha recommend.
It's called The Way of the Superior Man. Okay, And
I don't know if there's any correlation to this other book. Sure,
but one of the things in the book, and I've
never read the book, I just remember bj talking about this.
Speaker 4: But religious, do you have it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, One of the rules in the book is that
you have to live like your father is God. Yes,
and you never really I've been told this and I
believe it that you never really grow up until you
lose a parent. I lost my father at twenty seven.
My baby brother was fifteen, so we were at different
stages in life, but having to now grow up at
the same time. I was from a generation, the Toys
r US slash MTV generation, where we had a state
of arrested development. We were allowed to be kids longer
than the previous generation, the Gen X, which is you,
especially the Boomers, who had to grow up as soon
as you graduate from high school, were expected to have
a job or go to college and get married, have kids,
buy a house, boom boom, boom, boom boom. And there
were opportunities to do that in the fifties and sixties.
You get to this point now where it's like your
father had always not always bailed you out, but bailed
you out often, and so now it's like, I got
to bail myself out right, and you don't know where
that bailout may come from, and you have to figure
it out. No, Dan, you bail yourself out. You figure
it out. You're an adult now and your father's gone,
and it's in those moments that you learn now how
to grief by, how to use grief as fuel. Grief
is fuel. I'm going to use this as motivation. I'm
going to make my father proud. Now it's been eighteen years.
I still haven't done that yet.
Speaker 4: But that's that's funny.
Speaker 1: I should. My father's last memory means your radio crew
didn't really work out, did it well? But but I
bounced back. I ended up working in the show called
The Breakroom with some guys Bill Moran and had bound
sports talk show for about twenty minutes. You know, But
in all seriousness, you know, the grief, everybody grieves differently.
My wife is going through the same thing. She lost
her phone and she goes like, I keep having dreams
about your father. I go you know who else I
had a dream about last night? She who I got
my dad and you know what happened? What he was
yelling at me? He always yells at me in my dreams.
He's always yelling at it, which tells me, hey, you
gotta get going.
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After my dad's funeral, I my brother has a pond,
and he bought many different floatation devices and things, and
he has a little doc and he has a paddle
boat and kayaks. But then he bought a bunch of
like floats for people, and I went back to where
I was staying. I changed, and I come back on
the lawn and there's a lot of people. A lot
of his friends are there. My aunt and uncle from
Utah are there, my mom is there, cousins from New
York City are there.
Speaker 4: All three of my boys are there. I think they
were actually in the pond. And I let out a whooo.
Speaker 3: Rip off my shirt and I fucking kick off my
shoes and I start fucking hauling ass, probably not as
fast as I think it was down to jump into
the pond. And I hit the dock dan and I slip.
My whole body goes sideways, up sideways. I come down.
Speaker 4: Boom. I hit the dock, fall into the.
Speaker 1: Water like America's Funniest totbody else.
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Speaker 4: And there are so many layers to this. So let
me see if I can get this to play. Uh.
Speaker 3: And I cannot thank my sister in law Morgan enough.
She said they would. I have a favorite part to
this and everything. Okay, so let's see if we can
get it because it was breaking up. Okay, so here
it is. Let me say, hang and I just pause it.
I'm gonna turn off the volume. I want you to listen.
You will absolutely hear. You do not need to see.
You're here when I entered.
Speaker 4: All right, it's breaking up. Why does it keep fucking
breaking up like that? You can hear me? Right, yeah, yeah,
I see.
Speaker 2: It's my my brother's mother in law.
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Speaker 3: Oh and then if you listen and if it wasn't
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Speaker 1: Oh I can hear it.
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cdjr dot com. Didn't aybody see the story before we
get into Buffalo bill stuff, there was a story of
a I think they came on a plane and arrested
a pilot, and I think it was for child sex abuse. Yeah,
and now I just got an article sent to me
that said his forty five year old ex girlfriend has
been arrested for covering it up. Adelta Paly was arrested
and accused of child sex abuse. His ex girlfriend was
reportedly also charged with sexually abusing a child. Oh yeah,
he's thirty four and he's going he was shooting above
his age range eleven years. Was arrested in the cockpit
shortly after his flight landed in San Francisco.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I saw that he was arrested before his flight landed. No,
as the flight landed, Oh, they came out.
Speaker 1: They were waiting for him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, San Francisco.
Speaker 3: The child sex stuff is is absolutely horrible. I here
would be my question, and it's so dumb that I
think it might annoy people, But I go, we believe
that people who like the same sex are born that way?
Is it possible that people are born this way? You
can't fucking have it. It's it's it's disgusting, it's abusive.
It's having been molested as a child myself, you can't.
You absolutely cannot. We have the Rochester Diocese that just
settled for an inordinate amount of money, uh with with
I think five hundred people or something, whatever it is.
But my point being like, you can't have it, But
what do you do if that's your if that's what
turns you on? And I know that sounds absolutely insane?
Speaker 4: People, How the fuck did you say that? I can't?
I go.
Speaker 3: Look, there's there's all kinds of fetishes, right, we got
you know, big beautiful women and this that I don't
find that hot.
Speaker 4: There's cake farts, there's all kinds of Remember cake fuckers.
Speaker 3: I remember that lady said on the cake she farted
in the Icy Blue It was one of my favorite games.
Speaker 4: But the fact that people got off got off on it,
you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: There were videos, there were videos dad of women sitting
in just stockings, cross legged in a bra smoking, and
it turned guys on.
Speaker 4: Do you understand what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Like, there's something different for everybody that is their thing.
If you watched if you ever watched Billions, which I
love that show when it was on, Paul Giamani's character
was into being like being abused, right, So could that
turn you on?
Speaker 1: Fuck?
Speaker 4: No, not me. But there's that. So I just say,
this is an extension of that.
Speaker 3: It's just absolutely unacceptable at any standard. And you can't
there's an answer, right, But my point is if that's
what gets you, how do what do we do?
Speaker 4: You were born?
Speaker 1: I just you know, I can't. I know, I can't
wrap my head around that.
Speaker 4: I can't either.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't. I can't buy that.
Speaker 4: It can't a way to a certain extent.
Speaker 1: No, I can't. I can't get it. I mean, let's
put it this way. I mean, being the Christian that
I am. Bible says one man, one woman, one partner
for life, unless there's a death or something like that.
That's it. That's where you put all your energy into it. Period.
It prevents everything else. Okay, it prevents all the sin,
it prevents all the mistakes, it prevents all the help.
Speaker 3: I understand that. But there's such a desire within me.
Speaker 1: Is that desire? Is that desire for those little desire
to like, you know, I feel like they're powerful whatever
it is.
Speaker 4: I don't fucking know, Yes it is. I can't.
Speaker 3: But how many married people turn out like all of
a sudden they go It doesn't mean I'm gay or
it doesn't mean that.
Speaker 1: You have to indulge that you needs. You need to
go get help if you realize, yeah, before you go
hurt something, well, because there's somebody else attached to that man.
Speaker 3: And I say this about any an addict, an alcoholic
or whatever, the fight, the urge, the wrestling inside you,
you know, and I go, God.
Speaker 1: That's so fast. You gotta go, you gotta go get
the help. You gotta go get the help.
Speaker 3: And people so they go into these dark corners of
the web to find these pictures or things or whatever,
and it's just disgusting.
Speaker 4: And we can say, well, it was just a photo.
No one got hurt.
Speaker 3: No someone got hurt making that photo. Yeah, somewhere that
photo was made. It may have been made a couple
of years ago. It doesn't matter whatever happened it will.
I can tell you that that sort of thing can
really screw with your head in many many different ways.
Speaker 1: I think though, if we if we like that, there's
this term that they like to throw around. Now, I say,
they like whoever they are maps minor attractive persons. I
cannot sign off on that. What you never heard of this?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, They've thrown this term in the last ten
years called minor attractive persons. They're just attracted to little
children and almost like, oh, I'm not a I don't
make mistakes. I have a disease. I have a condition.
Now you're an a whole and you need to be
locked up or get some freaking olp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's what I'm saying, Like, could there be medication.
Speaker 1: Because I'll tell you what you do, get locked up,
There's gonna be some guy named Bubba who's gonna see you,
and he's gonna be attracted to you too. He's gonna
take out all that angst that you took on that
child onto you and then what you want to be victim?
Speaker 4: Go ahead. I like bloated tonight. I wonder why.
Speaker 1: It's a good bloated. See, like there's good debt and
bad debt.
Speaker 3: I went for a three mile round three miles wow,
no kidding, three point one yeah wow.
Speaker 4: I gotta get back to my wins getting back.
Speaker 1: But I had to take a week off.
Speaker 3: I'm getting back. It's time. It's time. You know what,
Dad's gone. I gotta get back to being me.
Speaker 1: That's not that's the premise of Happy Gilmour and somebody.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well I watched The Happy Gilmore too, and
I loved it good.
Speaker 4: I'm glad to hear that, because I and.
Speaker 1: Anybody who watched the rip on that movie. What were
you expecting?
Speaker 4: This is what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It was exactly where it should have been thought. I
had great tributes to all the people who are knowing.
It was the first one.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: It was two hours. It was the first two hours
of my life in the last five years where I
could get away from everything. Now think about it. They
could just laugh for two straight hours. My wife and
I loved it, loved it.
Speaker 4: And if you have that movie, I would single.
Speaker 1: Anyone out who says they got a problem with the
movie and just discard them, like the entire Dan LeBatard
show needs to just rot. They all ripped this. What
were you expecting? No, we want to show how smart
and sophisticated we are. And even the ones who damned
it with fate praise.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 1: Look, if you were looking for this or that and
the other thing, well yeah, well stupid, yeah, what you expect.
It's a Sandler movie, It's a sequel thirty years in
the making. You remember the first one. Here's the premise ready, okay,
here's the premise of Happy Gilboy in case anybody here,
we go, a guy who wants to be a hockey player,
who has no business even being on the ice, happens
to start whacking some golf balls with, of course, his
grandfather's old clubs, and he decides that he wants to
win back his grandmother's house because she could pay her taxes.
So he enters this long drive competition and then he
gets noticed by this dude with one hand named Chubbs
who left it, who lost his other hand due to
an alligator. Okay, an alligator bit his hand off, but
he ends up replacing it with wood, and he teaches
Happy how to golf. He goes and he gets into
this amateur tournament which win him a spot on the
PGA Tour, which, by the way, never happens, but okay,
we'll just spend reality. And he goes and he becomes
John Day really and by the way, he's in Happy
Gilbert too, if you have say. He plays himself and
he's hysterical, right, And he goes and he hits long
with a hockey stick type of golf club in a
hockey jersey, which is for Boton in golf.
Speaker 4: Oh and Timberland, Yes, and Timberland.
Speaker 1: It somehow manages to win the tour championship with no experience,
going from zero to Tiger Woods and they yeah.
Speaker 4: Gold jacket, right, which fine?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And somehow, some way, this dude who ends up
doing this falls in love with the tour pr person.
He gets ads for subway. He wins a golf tournament
where like he has to basically sake one of these
like putt putt type of putts to win the tournament. Okay,
And along the way, Chubbs dies gets killed by the
same alligator who bit off his head. It's so damn
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Bill's training camp is going on right now, And I
don't know that when you go. I always joke that
I don't know that people know exactly what we're looking at,
what the purpose of a certain drill is.
Speaker 1: I don't think most people know, but I think they
pretend to know, but I don't think they really know.
So what, I think the only people who really know
are the ones who are actually credential to talk about it.
Speaker 4: So seriously, what do we uh? What are you seeing?
Speaker 3: And what have you kind of surmised from your I know,
in depth reading about all things camp.
Speaker 1: Well, I have not been to camp, but I have read,
you know, I read a lot of people that I respect, Okay,
and I could name all of them. We tried getting
a couple of them on to night, but there's a
night off, so no No, it's like a night off
for them. I get it. So they got to be
a camp early tomorrow, so a lot of them are
driving in early tomorrow or late tonight, so they couldn't
come on the show. There's a lot of injuries going on,
so the natural question is, and I'll get to Max
Harriston in the second, but the question is, is this
a lot of injuries for a first week of camp?
And somebody went through and actually looked up the same
injury reports from a year or two before, and they say,
like the Bills ended up with like twenty one or
twenty two injuries last year at camp, but at the
end of camp are going into last week of camp,
so it's it's kind of a lot for right now,
but not too much. I think they're being cautious. I
know that this year they have to make make or
break this year. So if I mean, they had a
lot of people start out on what they call the
pupp list, meaning if you started the pup list, the
physically unable to perform list, that means that if you're
not taking off that list, they don't have to use
a roster spot on you when the season starts. Once
they activate you, then they have to waste the roster
spots so they could keep you on and another player
smart idea. Yeah, So like guys like Dawson Knox have
been removed, there been other guys who've been removed, but
they started out camp on that list. There have been
anywhere from eighteen to twenty one guys at this point
who have been injured in camp have been kept out
for some length of time for whatever reason, the latest
being their first round draft pick Maxwell Harston. They thought
he tore his ACL, and of course the doctors on
Twitter are looking at this and going, look, we can't speculate,
but it looks like what the trainer is doing, the
massage that he's offering to Maxwell Hairston's knee is a test.
That's not a good sign, they but they said that
doesn't necessarily mean that he's hurt, but it is a
test to determine whether you tore your ACL or LCL
or not. Okay. Later Tuesday night, he posts a very
cryptic post on Instagram of a picture of him signing
an autograph in his jersey saying, you know, thanks be
to God or whatever, or you know, praise be to God.
He's always got my back stuff like that. So people
are speculating I hope this is good news. The NFL
beat reporters, I think it was Adam Schefter and Jordan
Schultz reported, and I think Atlanta Getzenberg from ESPN, who
covers the bill specifically, all reported that this is an
ACL or I'm sorry, an LCL sprain. He's only gonna
be out for a few weeks. It's not a tear.
He's gonna be okay, So everybody breathe the collective sigh
of relief.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 1: Here's where my issue comes in with media, and it's
not the media I'm blaming. I have a theory and
I could be wrong on this. Greg Connors might know
better than I would. It seems like you got a
bunch of local guys who bust their humps, who are
living at Fisher, staying away from their families because most
are from Buffalo, so they have to camp out of camp.
They're doing all the work here, and yet the story
gets broken by national guys.
Speaker 4: So that's for either one or two reasons.
Speaker 1: One the bills gave them the story, which is my theory.
Or two, Schefter and Schultz of these guys are so
well connected. They got in touch with Maxwell Harriston's agent
and he told them that. But here's the thing. Couldn't
the other local guys do that too? So my theory,
so I guess my theory is that the Bills have
a tendency to let the national guys get the big
stories and then let the local guys fight over what's
in front of them. And I think that's kind of unfair.
I think, how'd you just tell everybody, Hey, guys, he's
gonna be okay, it's not our shattering news. But no,
they like to feed the national media life because they
like because they want the national attention, and they want
people like the national guys to give them more attention
because Buffalo is a small market. I can understand that,
but it kind of if if what I'm saying is true,
and it may not be, I could be wrong, But
you know, you mean to tell me you couldn't give
that story to Saco Paccio and Thad Brown and Matt
Bouvey and Joebiscalia and Tim Grahmm and those guys to
break they're your local guys.
Speaker 3: No, but I do wonder if that's the appeal of
the guys who are right, the Adam Schefters and we
know break the news and they have the connections and
maybe they have an insider somewhere that I mean that
could go through. They could be paying somebody, you know,
private personal payroll.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of some it could be.
Speaker 3: So you get that in Maxwell Harrison, by the way,
what position is He's a corner.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And way Trey White, who's come back into the fold.
A lot of people are praising the way Trey White
has been playing a camp.
Speaker 3: Right, but it's camp and we but I agree, I mean,
we go camp, take camp so seriously because they're not
going all out like they would in the game. No,
but that's still a great sign. I mean, like all
positive everything said that. I feel like everything that's coming
out of camp has been for the most part positive.
Speaker 4: The team looks good, they're ready there, you know.
Speaker 3: I love even when Josh says I I've ground for
my money. I think he said I I have already
done the grind for my money. Uh now I'm just
doing it for the love of the game.
Speaker 4: And I believe that.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's a guy that I got paid.
And then you know what I mean, guys fall off
after they get paid.
Speaker 1: Compared to past generations of bills. And I won't get
too specifics. I've never heard a bad word about Josh.
I think that once.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think I I know they've been whatever
that we found it that was BS.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think this team, I don't know. You don't want
to say anything, right, we've seen the schedule. Potentially they
could win every game. They're favored in every.
Speaker 1: Every single game so far, and there's a lot of change.
I wrote last week, there's a lot of reasons why
they can and a lot of reasons why they can't. Yeah,
and you know, Kevin brought the biggest reason. It's the NFL.
I mean, only one team has done it. But but
so Harriston's gonna be okay, So he'll probably he may
not play the preseason up until the last game. And
if you know, if they really believe him, I don't
think they're going to do that. They may actually hold
him back and let him start maybe week two or
week three. I don't know what's going to happen. They
really like this kid, and the thing is he Kean
Coleman have gotten the most praise now. Coleman was last
year's first pick in the second round. They traded back,
so he really was a first rounder, but they traded him.
They got the first pick in the second round, and
they trade or and they got Keon Coleman. I'm talking
too fast. He has really taken another step. I guess
at camp from whateverything I've heard. Yes, what you really
want to root for though, at camp is gridlock. Here's
what I mean. The offense makes some great plays and
the defense makes some great plays. If one side is
dominating the other, that's a cause for concern. That's a
cause for concern. You want both sides because they're both
your team. We tend to lean toward offense because offense
scores points, right, it's fun. But Josh Allen's out of
the offense. But you really want both sides to make plays,
and it sounds like both sides have really made plays.
Speaker 4: Allen's putting the.
Speaker 1: Ball in certain spots, but then defensive backs are making
certain plays when he does that, so that makes him better,
That makes them better.
Speaker 4: It makes your receivers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean, like the guys who were on
the field that he's practiced, they're they're doing well, they're
doing all right. Like the first day was like Coleman
had a bad day. I'm like, oh my goodness, it's
they're not even in pads yet, you know. But I
mean I think it's I think people don't know, but uh,
you know, but like throw the local media bone man.
They're the ones there there every day. Yeah, I mean,
tell me you can't get these now because they they
had to have known. If if Harston knew, it means
the coaching staff new. That means the pr team new.
It means the general manager new, and before the Asian new.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, does it matter in the
very scheme of things.
Speaker 1: No, it doesn't matter because nobody ever remembers who breaks it.
We just like the news that we got right. And
so my thing is, though the local guys are kicking,
but they're killing themselves.
Speaker 3: They're great local guys. There are great local guys. There
are great local guys in Rochester. They're great local guys
in Buffalo. I can't deny that there's some really really
talented writers.
Speaker 1: But on the flip side, yes, there are some aggregators
and the hobbyists who said that Harriston was done for
the season with a tornea a cl today.
Speaker 4: Oh that is not good.
Speaker 1: A week ago, there was another group of people, an
independent group, that tweeted out that the Bills were going
to have an alternate uniform that was, you know, a
throwback to their first season with like gray helmets and numbers,
and ended up being the red helmet. So either they
got their lines cross because the Bills are going to
debut another uniform in August. We're gonna find out about it. Okay.
It's like it's gonna be like something like a blizzard
type of uniform. So maybe that's what they were talking about,
but they got a lot of crap because they got
that story wrong. So, ladies and gentlemen, trust your local
media when it comes to Bill's coverage.
Speaker 4: They're really smart thing to say.
Speaker 1: They're credentialed, they've paid.
Speaker 4: I love that. You call them hobbyists.
Speaker 1: Well that's they are. And by the way, there's nothing
wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3: But they're like hammou operators, radio operators in some ways.
Speaker 1: In some ways. Yeah, but that's that's okay. I'm not
killing them, like a lot of them a great opinion.
Hashtag sports are great. Yeah, those guys are great, but
but I mean, you gotta like really like, these guys
work hard to get their sources right. That's why they're
there on the field. They're they're there. They ask the
questions in practice, and after practice they do the tough
digging so that you could sit there, you know, and
stand on their shoulder and go, yeah, here's what I think,
kind of like I do.
Speaker 4: A wow.
Speaker 3: I was a little unexpected that you would say that,
but yeah, but you're right, I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.
Speaker 4: People love your stuff.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that going for next year, you know.
Speaker 3: For Dan Barillo, great NFL insight for me in the
video of falling off the doc and whatever happened earlier today,
I have no idea.
Speaker 4: I apologize to you in advance.
Speaker 3: Is Bill Moran, and we'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I woke up in the hotel, didn't know what to do.
I turn a TV on, rule
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