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Speaker 1: People like to call Appalachia quiet, but locals no better.

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When the sun goes down, the mountains don't sleep. They

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watch Follow Me down the rabbit Hole about the Appalachian Mountains. Hello, friends,

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and welcome back to the rabbit Hole. I'm your host, Danny,

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and today we are talking about the cryptids in the

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Appalachian Mountains. Because I got this cute little doll. I

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guess I wouldn't call it cute, and I probably wouldn't

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call it a doll either, this little figurine of the

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flat Woods Monster, and so it kind of sent me

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down this rabbit hole about cryptids in the Appalachian Mountains.

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I started in West Virginia. Some of them branch out,

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but actually most of them are in West Virginia, So

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I don't know what's going on there. But if you

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live in West Virginia, could you send me some folklore

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like what's happening there. But thank you Dan and Lawnes, Kristin, Gabrielle,

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Dolores Silas and Todd for requesting this episode. And Todd,

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thank you for sending me the flat Woods Monster figurine.

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I appreciate that. And of course, before we get started,

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rabbit Hole. So we really appreciate that. The Appalachian Mountains

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are older than bones, older than trees, older than memory itself.

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They stretch from Alabama to Canada like a scar across

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the continent, eroded, hollowed, and riddled with caves, mines, tunnels

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that run deeper than maps can even follow. We're not

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talking about just one cryptid. We're talking about a whole

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pattern of cryptids, a cluster of encounters spanning century where

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people report creatures that don't fit biology, folklore, or logic.

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Some are ancient, some arrive suddenly, some seem to follow disaster,

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and almost all of them are still being seen. The

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most well known of these cryptids is Mothman. On November twelfth,

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nineteen sixty six, near Clinton and West Virginia, five men

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were in the local cemetery preparing a grave for a burial.

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They looked up and saw something that looked like a

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brown human being lifting off from some nearby trees, and

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then it kind of like flew over their heads and

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was gone. They said it didn't appear to be a bird,

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more like a man with wings. And then three days later,

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on November fifteenth, nineteen sixty six, the most infamous sighting

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occurred near Point Pleasant, West Virginia. Two young couples, Roger

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and Linda Scarberry and Steven Mary Malette, reported this like

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large black creature whose eyes were glowing red, standing at

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the side of the road near the area. So the

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TNT area was actually the site of a former World

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They described this creature as being quote shaped like a man,

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but bigger, maybe six or seven feet tall, and it

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had big wings folded against its back end. Quote. However,

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they were unable to discern its face due to the

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hypnotic effect of its eyes. In fact, the creature's eyes

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didn't seem to be on its head because it didn't

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seem to have a head at all, and it didn't

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have a neck. It just seemed like the eyes were

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like in its chest. Freaked out by the creature's movements

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because it was moving toward the door of the TNT plant,

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the group sped away from the scene. They were like,

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we gotta get out of here. Then they watched as

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the creature spread its wings and rose into the air

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to follow the car. The creature kept up with them

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while they were going upwards of one hundred miles an hour,

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screeching all along the way. When they got to the

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city limits of Point Pleasant, the creature just stopped and disappeared.

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And they weren't the only ones to see the creature

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that night. Another group of four also witnessed this quote

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unquote bird three different times that same night. After the

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reports of this made the local newspaper, more people came

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forward with similar sightings. Two volunteer firemen reportedly saw a

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large bird with red eyes. A contractor, Noelle Partridge, reported

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that he was watching TV when the screen suddenly went

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dark and then this weird pattern filled the screen and

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he heard a loud whining sound outside. He described it

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like a generator winding up. His dog also started to

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like howl from the front porch, so he was like,

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I should go out and see what my dog's howling at. Like, obviously,

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something weird is happening. So he pointed his flashlight in

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the direction of where his dog was howling, and he

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saw these two red circles that looked like eyes or

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maybe like bicycle reflectors. Either way, he knew they weren't

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animal eyes, and he was freaked out, but his dog

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chased after this thing with the eyes. He went back

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inside to get his gun to chase after his dog,

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but decided that he was just way too scared. He

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wasn't going after his dog. His dog would probably come back,

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except the dog never did. And all this happened on

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the same night as the other sighting is November twelfth.

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The next day, on November sixteenth, Ralph Thomas and his

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family spotted a funny red light and the sky that

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moved and hovered above the t and tea plant. A

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friend of the family, Marcella Bennett, said, quote it wasn't

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an airplane and they couldn't figure out what it was

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end quote. So she drove to the Thomas household with

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her baby in the back seat, and as she was

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getting out of the car. She was getting her baby

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out of the car, this figure appeared near her car.

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lying down. It rose up slowly from the ground, a

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big gray thing, bigger than a man, with terrible glowing eyes.

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End quote. This creature scared Marcella so badly that she

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actually dropped her baby. She quickly recovered. She grabbed her

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baby off the ground and then like ran inside into

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the Thomas household because she was freaked out out and

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obviously the whole Thomas Stanley's like watching this encounter from

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inside the house, so they're freaked out too. As soon

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as she gets in the house, they locked the doors,

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They called the police, and mothman had vanished by the

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time the authorities had arrived. Marcella really didn't recover from

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this event for months. She was so distraught that she

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sought medical attention at the time. They didn't diagnose her

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with it, but I think that she probably had PTSD

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because of the memories and anxieties that haunted her from

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that night on. She even swears that the creature visited

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her own home on other occasions outside of this one occasion,

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because it sounded as if like there was this woman

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screaming outside of her house every now and then, like

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just like weird sounds were happening, and it freaked her out.

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But again that could be the PTSD trying to explain

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it away. And because of one of the original four's

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descriptions of this creature, they literally called it a bird.

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A Mason County Sheriff George Johnson believed that the sightings

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were just this like large green heron, So I looked

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up a green heron, and green herons, compared to other herons,

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are short and stocky, with relatively short legs and thick necks.

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This thing didn't really have a neck, but the way

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that the heron kind of holds its head, it holds

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its head really close to its body, as if it

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doesn't have a neck, And because it holds its head

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in a certain way, maybe you couldn't tell that it

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has a head. Maybe it just looks like it's all

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just part of one body. But they're also only like

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sixteen to eighteen inches in length, and they have yellow eyes,

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not red eyes. They don't fit the description of being

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this like seven foot tall thing with glowing red eyes.

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an hour, so it would not have been able to

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keep up with the car going one hundred miles an hour.

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A wildlife biologist from West Virginia University, Robert L. Smith,

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told reporters that the descriptions sounded more like a sand

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hill crane. This is a bit more plausible because a

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crane stands almost like four feet high, and it has

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a wingspan of six and a half feet, and they

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do have red eyes. But typically they only fly somewhere

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between like twenty five and thirty five miles an hour.

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the right tailwind. But it just doesn't make a whole

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lot of sense still because everyone describes the saying as

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being like six to seven feet tall, like bigger than

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the average man, with a huge wingspan, and that's making

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weird noises. Smith says that the bird could have wandered

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out of its natural migration pattern and then ended up

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in Point Pleasant, and because it's not a common bird

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that everyone would see all the time in that area,

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maybe that kind of adds to it. But the bird

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would have left eventually, right like, it wouldn't have just

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hung out for days. It would have eventually left on

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its migration pattern going back to wherever it's supposed to be, like,

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why would it have stayed for so long? The press

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dubbed the flying creature Mothman, after the character from the

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popular Batman television series of the day. It was believed

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that Mothman was living in the old T and T plant,

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which is why the original foresaw him heading toward that door.

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Why so many people kind of saw him in the

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same area, And this would also be a great place

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to hide because of the several hundred acres of woods

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in large concrete domes that surrounded it. There is also

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a network of tunnels in the area that made it

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possible for the creature to move around underground without being seen.

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Because of Mothman, along with other UFO sidings and the

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fact that men in black were visiting the area, after

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some of these events, people started to believe that it

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was all related. This brought a lot of attention to

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the area, with researchers, investigators, and monster hutters all flocking

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to see if they could capture Mothman or at least

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get a glimpse of him. Author John Neil was one

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of the most famous authors to write about Mothman. He

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said he doesn't believe that Mothman is an extraterrestrial. He

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thinks we have been having encounters with the supernatural first

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centuries and Mothman is just another one along the lines

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of like an elder god that comes in the full

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of UFO aliens, monsters, demons, angels, and even ghosts. However,

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the origins of Mothman may have been found two centuries

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before these incidents with the Cornstock curse. Chief Cornstock was

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a prominent Shawnee leader in the Ohio Country during the

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seventeen sixties and the seventeen seventies. He is known for

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his role in defending Shawnee lands against colonial expansion. He

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led forces in Lord Dunmore's War, including the Battle of

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Point Pleasant. He was defeated, but advocated for peace afterwards.

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He wanted his tribe to stay neutral in the Revolutionary War.

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He was not choosing sides, and in seventeen seventy seven

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he visited Fort Randolph to negotiate with American authorities, but

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was imprisoned by the fort's commander instead. After a militia

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man was killed near the fort, which they blamed on

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the Shawnee people. Chief Cornstock and three others were murdered

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by angry soldiers despite being promised safe conduct while they

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were being held at the fort. He was shot eight

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times before he fell on the floor, and as he

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lay there dying in this smoke field room, he was

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said to have pronounced his curse. He looked up to

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his assassins and spoke to them, saying, quote, I was

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the border Man's friend many times. I have saved him

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and his people from harm. I never warred with you,

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but only to protect our wigwims and lands. I refuse

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to join your pale face enemies with the red coats.

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I came to the fort as your friend, and you

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murdered me. You have murdered by my side, my young son,

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because his son was also at the fort with him.

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For this, may the curse of the Great Spirit rest

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upon this land. May it be blighted by nature, May

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it even be blighted in its hopes. May strength of

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its peoples be paralyzed by the stain of our blood

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end quote and legend has it. As soon as he

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finished speaking these words, he died. The other natives he

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was with were tossed into the river, but Chief Cornstock

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was actually buried near the fort on Point Pleasant, and

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he stayed there for decades while the town was built

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up around him where the old fort once stood, until

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eighteen forty when they dug up his remains and then

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moved him. After moving his remains a couple of times

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because they moved him twice after the original burial, they

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placed a grave for him in the two Indie Way Park.

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This isn't the only monument made for Chief Cornstock. Another

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monument that stands eighty six feet tall, was dedicated in

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August of nineteen oh nine. It was a month behind schedule, actually,

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because the night before the original dedication ceremony in July,

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there was like a beautiful clear sky. Then all of

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a sudden, lightning erupted and struck the upper part of

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the crane that was supposed to put the final piece

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of the monument in place the next day during the dedication,

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they had to wait for the crane to be completely

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repaired before they could actually dedicate the monument. The day

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it was finally dedicated, another bolt of lightning struck the monument,

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damn the capstone and some granite blocks. Many believe that

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the lightning was vengeance tied to the curse and I mean,

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the southeastern corner of Ohio and the surrounding area of

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West Virginia are considered to be extremely haunted, even though

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Native Americans regarded this land as a quote haunted spot,

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plagued with ghost lights, phantoms, and strange creatures, Mothman being

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one of them. Many tragedies and disasters were blamed on

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the curse. The nineteen oh seven coal mine disaster that

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happened in Manonga, West Virginia. It was actually the worst

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coal mine disaster in American history, with three hundred and

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ten miners being killed, and the nineteen forty four tornado

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that killed one hundred and fifty people in the area,

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and so many more disasters. It seems like anytime there's

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like a natural disaster or just like any sort of disaster,

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they blame it on this curse. Well, after a year

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of torment and reports of Mothman sightings, everything seemed to

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come to an end with the collapse of the Silver Bridge,

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which is also blamed on the curse, but also kind

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of blamed on Mothma a little bit so. On December

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fifteenth of nineteen sixty seven, just over a year after

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the first reported sidings of Mothman. Around five pm, a

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seven foot bridge linking point Pleasant to Ohio, crossing the

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Ohio River collapsed. Unfortunately, this was at the height of

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rush hour, so dozens of vehicles were dropped into the

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river and forty six people were killed. Now, some people

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blame this tragedy on the Cornstock curse, while others think

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maybe Mothman was an omen trying to warn them that

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something might happen, because after the bridge collapsed, the sidings

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completely stopped. But what was really odd about the bridge

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collapse is that the family that lived near the T

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and T plant, which, by the way, it was like

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really desolate out there. It wasn't like a lot of

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people lived near the TNT plant. It was kind of

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in the middle of nowhere. So there was a family

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that lived near and they had seen more than twelve

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eerie lights that flashed above their home and vanished into

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the forest at the same time as the bridge was collapsing.

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And then a strange looking guy who was short, dark skinned,

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vaguely oriental, and dressed in a black suit and tie

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showed up at the office of a local reporter asking

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her questions about the incident, and kind of like all

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the UFO sidings in the area. So she was super

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busy at the time, right because this bridge had just collapsed.

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She's trying to deal with national reporters coming in, and

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she's like the local liaison for all these people. She

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didn't really have time for some guy who had no

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credentials to wander into her office asking her about all

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the UFO sidings in the area. So she just like

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handed him as file folder full of like all the

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clippings from all the sightings that people had reported. Was

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like here you go, my guy, Like, I don't really

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know what to do. I can't help you right now.

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But he was pissed. He was like, no, I want

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to talk to you about what you know about all

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these UFO sidings. Well, she just kind of sent him

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on his way. So he started going to all the

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people's houses, like all the people that had reported something

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about a UFO. He started visiting them and asking them

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like very specific questions. But this man made people feel

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super uneasy and uncomfortable. He claimed to be a reporter

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from Ohio, like specifically like this tiny little town right

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outside of Columbus, Ohio. But then when people would talk

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to him about Columbus. He's like, oh, I don't know

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where that is, which Columbus is one of the biggest

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cities in Ohio. So and for you to say that

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you lived in this tiny little town just miles away

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from Columbus, you're lying. There's no way. But as with

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everything they tried to explain away Mothman, the favorite excuse

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was that it was an owl and not a creature.

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But the size again just doesn't add up. And it

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wasn't just Mothman that was being seen. There was also

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poultrygeist reports, UFO sidings and strange lights and sounds happening

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all throughout the same time. And what's up with this?

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Like man in black showing up and asking all these questions,

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like something is important about all these things. Mothman has

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left such an impact on the community that they still

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have a festival in his honor every single year. They

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also have a museum in Point Pleasant dedicated to Mothman. Next,

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we have the Flatwoods Monster. At seven to fifteen pm

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on September twelfth, nineteen fifty two, brothers Edward and Fred May,

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along with their friends Neil Nunley and Tommy Hier, were

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playing in the lawn of the flat Woods Elementary School. Suddenly,

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a bright object crossed the sky and crashed into a

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hill on the property of a local farmer, ge Bailey Fisher.

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The boys were only twelve and thirteen years old at

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the time, and curiosity got the better of them, as

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would happen with little boys, so they decided to go

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check it out. Well. On their way to the crash

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site just happened to be the may household, so like

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Edward and Fred's house, so they went in. They told

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their mom, like, hey, we just saw this crazy thing.

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Their mom, Kathleen, was like, mm, you're not going by yourself,

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let me come with you. So Kathleen decided to accompany

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the boys, but she all wasn't gonna go alone either,

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so she called her cousin, who happened to be a

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West Virginia National guardsman, Eugene Lemon. They also took their

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dog Richie with them like for good measure. When they

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got to the hill, they saw a pulsing red light

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and Eugene then shined his flashlight up the hill to

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see what they could find, and what they saw was terrifying.

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They saw a ten foot tall creature with a head

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shaped like a spade. It was wearing what appeared to

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be a dark metal dress, and this creature's hands were

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twisted and clawed, and it seemed to have eyes that

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glowed an eerie orange yellow color. This creature didn't walk, instead,

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it actually levitated off the ground and this strange, sickening

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mist just hung in the air. It did not smell good.

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Upon seeing the group, the creature hissed and glided quickly

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toward the witnesses, and with that the group was like, nope,

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we are out of here. Some of the members of

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the group actually suffered from throat irritation, vomiting a nausea,

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which persisted for days after the sighting. The incident was

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reported to local authorities as usual, and they went out

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that same night allegedly to search for whatever the group

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had seen, but claimed to have found nothing, literally nothing.

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They didn't see anything, they didn't hear anything, they didn't

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even smell anything. The next day, a local reporter went

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out to the site and claimed to have found skid

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marks in the field and a quote old gummy deposit,

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which were attributed to a flying saucer by local UFO enthusiasts,

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not necessarily by that reporter. Remember that this is all

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happening like five years after the Roswell incident, and the

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idea of UFOs had kind of been floating around and

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being talked about by so many people. UFO enthusiasts were rampant.

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Everybody wanted to see one. So locals thinking it was

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a UFO was like this huge deal. They're like, we

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have a UFO now. This creature sighting sparked national news,

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as it would after Roswell. It was in the newspapers

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across the country and on radio broadcasts on large networks. Reportedly,

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hundreds of phone calls were received from all parts of

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the country, and this story was ranked at number eleven

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of the year. People from all over came to question

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the may family, a minister from Brooklyn, a special reporter

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from Pittsburgh, and UFO writers came to the area to investigate. Eventually,

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the light was dismissed as an airplane and the creature

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was dismissed as an owl sighting. But that just doesn't

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make any sense. Have you ever seen a ten foot

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owl ever? Besides like statues like the one at Bohemian Grove,

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which we won't get into, I don't know, like maybe

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you can dismiss the other attributes to an owl, like

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the eyes and the gliding, but not the size, and

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that doesn't explain the weird missed smell and the symptoms

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the group was having. And of course these symptoms were

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just said to be like a side effective hysteria. But

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you know what else can cause these type of symptoms.

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Mustard gas. Mustard gas is technically a viscous, oily liquid,

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not a gas, but when it's dispersed, it disperses like

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this fine mist of liquid droplets. That way, it can

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remain airborne for hours, but it's heavier than air, so

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eventually it settles. It can smell like garlic onion mustard,

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or have no smell at all. Although not directly reported,

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I'm sure it can also probably smell like sulfur because

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it's actually a sulfur chemical, and its symptoms include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, ie, irritation,

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swelling or pain, difficulty breathing, coughing, shortness of breath, hoarseness,

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and so on. The Symptoms of the gas actually depend

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on how long a person is exposed to it, and

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because this group was only exposed for a short time,

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that could account for their few symptoms. But the mustard

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gas theory doesn't really add up either, because the police

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went out to investigate the site that same night and

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smelled nothing. If it was mustard gas, it would have

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still smelled like something, probably, or at least they probably

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would have slipped on it, because it's supposed to be

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this oily liquid and once it settles on the ground,

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wouldn't it have made the ground slick? Even if the

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ground is grass, it would have made the grass slick.

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And the police were like, no, we didn't see anything,

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nothing out of the ordinary. That is, if the police

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actually went to investigate that night and I couldn't find

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if they did or if they didn't, I don't want

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to say that they don't not try to call them liars.

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But that's not to say that it was even mustard gas.

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The creature was drawn by Kathleen May. There's how we

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get this depiction of it today. But this siding wasn't

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the first siding of this monster. Not long before the

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most famous siding of the monster, a woman named Audra

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Harper reportedly saw this same monster. She said she saw

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it walking through the woods near her home, which was

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closer to the town of Heaters. Heaters is about five

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miles north of Flatwoods. Harper and her friend were walking

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to the door, but the road was just like not

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in very good condition, so they actually decided to cut

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through the woods instead, which actually made their trip shorter too.

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About a half mile into their trip, they noticed this

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ball of fire on one of the hills they were passing.

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At first, they dismissed it because it could have been

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anything somebody burning something like it literally could have been anything,

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they thought like at the time it was probably a

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neighbor fox chasing, but when she glanced back at it,

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the fire had completely vanished. In its place stood a tall,

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dark silhouette of a man shaped figure. The pair ran terrified.

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After the September twelfth siding, there was a siding near

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Strange Creek, about twenty miles south of flat Woods. George

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and Edith Nadowski, along with their eighteen month old son,

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were driving in a rural area between Clay and Braxton

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County on Route four when their car suddenly died out

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of nowhere. So George tried to restart the car like

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anyone would, but it wouldn't restart, and it didn't help

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that it was night time, so there's no one around,

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and there wasn't going to be anyone around for a

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while because they're like on this rural route. So the

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couple were trying to figure out, like what do we

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do next, Like how do we get We can't get

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the car to start, Like we don't have cell phones,

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so do we just like take off walking with our baby.

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That's when they smelled this foul, sulfurous smell. Then a

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bright light filled the air and a ten foot tall

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creature hovered in front of their car. In their description,

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the creature didn't have a spade shaped hood as usually

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depicted and as described by the other group, but instead

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its head was reptilian and bony. It dragged its lizard

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like hand across the hood of the car before drifting

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away into the woods. Oddly enough, as soon as the

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monster was gone, the car restarted without any issues, and

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then the couple, of course, like sped away. This creature

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has become folklore in Braxton County. There is an ice

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cream shop where you can take pictures with a painted

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iteration of the mom Monster, and a museum that operates

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in the town of Sutton, a few miles south of flatwoods. Unfortunately,

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the monster has not been reported since the original incident

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in nineteen fifty two. However, it has left its mark

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on the community. They say, if you stand outside at night,

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you can still almost feel it. Next, we have the

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Grafton Monster. On June sixteenth, nineteen sixty four, around eleven pm,

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Grafton Sentinel reporter Robert Cockrail saw a mysterious creature near

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the Tiger Valley River outside Grafton, West Virginia. He was

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on Riverside Drive outside of Grafton when he saw this creature.

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It was a road that he knew really well. He

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often took it home after work, and that's exactly what

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he was doing that night. So as a reporter sometimes

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you work odd hours, so it was like eleven PM

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when he's driving down this road he sees this creature.

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He reported that he rounded a slight curve around the

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road when quote, as I glanced up, my highbeaws picked

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up a huge white obstruction on the right side of

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the road, standing between the road and the river bank

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on a cleared off section of grass. It was very large,

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standing seven to nine feet tall and about four feet wide,

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and it was white with seal like skin skin that

475
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,720
had this like sheen to it, and it didn't have

476
00:26:18,759 --> 00:26:22,279
a discernible head. Instead, its features were planted in the

477
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,680
middle of its chest, much like Mothman. Terrified, he rushed

478
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,759
home and immediately wanted to lock himself in. He wanted

479
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:32,079
to lock his doors and just like be done, but

480
00:26:32,839 --> 00:26:35,559
he reports on things like this, so instead he called

481
00:26:35,599 --> 00:26:38,240
his friends to come help him investigate this creature further

482
00:26:38,599 --> 00:26:42,680
and where the creature was found. But when the group

483
00:26:42,759 --> 00:26:45,640
got back to the scene, the monster was gone and

484
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,920
the only evidence to prove the monster was there and

485
00:26:48,039 --> 00:26:50,400
wasn't just made up was the fact that there was

486
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,880
some grass and bushes flattened around in the place that

487
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,200
Robert said it was standing, but there were no tracks

488
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,359
of this monster. As they looked around more because they

489
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,119
were there for over an hour trying to do an

490
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,440
investigation into this creature, a low whistling sound seemed to

491
00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:06,559
follow them, and they felt like the sound was actually

492
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,000
coming from the river. The next day at work, Robert

493
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:11,920
was quiet, like he didn't really want to say anything

494
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,000
because he was worried what people might think, like maybe

495
00:27:14,039 --> 00:27:16,039
he's crazy, or maybe it was a hoax. Maybe he's

496
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:20,519
like trying to make it up for a good story. However,

497
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:23,279
Robert said, quote, it was news and it was my

498
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,160
duty to report on it. So he wrote an article

499
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,480
and gave it to his editor, who printed the story.

500
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:32,160
But the print piece was cynical of the monster at best.

501
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:36,359
Authorities were notified to the monster and did a routine investigation, which,

502
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,160
of course, like turned up nothing. But after reading of

503
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,160
the monster, over one hundred teens from the area took

504
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,599
up the search for the beast, and over twenty of

505
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:49,559
them reportedly caught glimpses of it. Naturally skeptical of teenagers,

506
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:53,799
he questioned several of them quote and found their reports

507
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,599
tallying to the finest detail end quote. There were other

508
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,200
reports of sightings from adults and more teens, and while

509
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,519
some he believed to be actual sightings, others didn't seem

510
00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:09,720
to match, like they were just looking for attention. Interestingly,

511
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,599
a week prior to Robert seeing the monster in Gaft

512
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,599
in West Virginia, a nine foot tall monster was reported

513
00:28:15,599 --> 00:28:19,799
in Michigan. This monster had been reported in the Sister

514
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,319
Lakes area of Michigan on and off for the two

515
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,279
years leading up to this article. In nineteen sixty four,

516
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,680
a local lady claimed to have been chased by this

517
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:31,559
nine foot tall, five hundred pound monster into her house

518
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,640
until her dog barked at it and scared it away.

519
00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,759
This monster was described by others as being covered in

520
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,440
black hair up to its neck and having eyes that

521
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,640
glowed like an animal that had light shined in its eyes.

522
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,599
This Michigan monster made noises like a crying baby or

523
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,200
like a tamed goose. Deputies in the area were determined

524
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,519
to find the monster and solve the case. However, the

525
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:56,880
idea of the monster was so tantalizing that people had

526
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,960
come from all around to see it, and the traffic

527
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,599
was so outrageous the deputies could barely get through to

528
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,599
the sighting of the monster because so many people wanted

529
00:29:06,599 --> 00:29:09,200
to see this monster. At the time of the article,

530
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,559
there had been ten credible witnesses of the Michigan Monster.

531
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,640
Because that article had been published by the Grafton Sentinel,

532
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:20,279
it may have led to more excitement. When Robert published

533
00:29:20,279 --> 00:29:24,079
his article about the monster he had seen. Like others,

534
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,319
this creature was dismissed. They chalked it up to a

535
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,880
quote combination of spring fever, lack of recreational facilities, and

536
00:29:33,079 --> 00:29:36,799
the recent publicity of the monster in Michigan. Although some

537
00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:40,000
researchers believe the Grafton Monster is part of the same

538
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:44,200
phenomenon as the flat Woods Monster because it appears humanoid, mechanical,

539
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,119
and silent or silent when it's seen at least, even

540
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,720
though there seems to be noises when you can't see it,

541
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,359
I think we can all agree that something weird is

542
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,119
going on in the area, especially because it seems to

543
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:00,519
be running through the entire state of West Virginia. Between Offman,

544
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,799
the Grafton Monster, and the Flatwood's Monster, this next cryptid

545
00:30:06,079 --> 00:30:09,400
kind of runs throughout all of Appalachia. He's the Bigfoot

546
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,160
of Appalachia. Now, long before the term bigfoot existed, Appalachian

547
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,279
settlers told stories of the wood Booger, a towering, foul

548
00:30:18,359 --> 00:30:22,480
smelling creature that screamed from the ridgelines. This bigfoot like

549
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:25,480
creature is said to roam the forest of southwest Virginia

550
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:29,440
and carries off small children. Like the Boogeyman, the wood

551
00:30:29,599 --> 00:30:33,519
Booger originally meant ghost or haunt, but by the late

552
00:30:33,599 --> 00:30:37,000
nineteen sixties it also meant monster or animal. In the

553
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:40,880
southern US, this creature is also called a Yahoo sometimes

554
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,599
which is generally associated with wild men. In Australia. It

555
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,440
is the Australian word for devil or evil spirit. The

556
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:52,240
indigenous tribes actually spoke of the Yahoo a wild man

557
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:57,200
that stole food, followed hunters, and punished those who disrespected

558
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,079
the forest. Unlike the Pacific Northwest big Foot, the Appalachian

559
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:05,000
variants are described as being more aggressive, more vocal, and

560
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:10,000
more territorial. This creature has been seen in West Virginia, Virginia, Tennessee,

561
00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:15,240
and Kentucky, as well as parts of Georgia. Is described

562
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:20,200
as a large, hairy, bipedal humanoid and it's somewhere between

563
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,160
eight and twelve feet tall, with dark or black fur

564
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,359
and glowing eyes that are either red or green. Witnesses

565
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,359
claim that it is half ape, half man. The signing

566
00:31:31,359 --> 00:31:34,279
of this creature is normally in dense forests and remote terrain,

567
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,440
which provides ideal cover for the creature. Now, I'm not

568
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,640
gonna go super far into this because I've already done

569
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,039
an entire episode on Bigfoot. I'll link that in the

570
00:31:43,079 --> 00:31:47,279
show notes. This creature is just Bigfoot of Appalachia. Lastly,

571
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,319
we're going to talk about the moon eyed people. Or

572
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,720
like the White Beings. They are a group of bearded,

573
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,000
white skinned people who are said to have lived in Appalachia,

574
00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:00,759
that is, until the Cherokee expelled them. The stories of

575
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:04,039
these creatures have largely been passed down orally through the

576
00:32:04,119 --> 00:32:07,440
Cherokee people. These moon eyed people were said to have

577
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,119
been unable to see during certain phases of the moon.

578
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:12,559
They also couldn't see during the daytime. They could only

579
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:15,880
come out at night when the moon was not full.

580
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,119
They built fortifications in the mountain, but during the phase

581
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,279
of the moon where they were unable to see, the

582
00:32:22,359 --> 00:32:26,039
Creek people annihilated the race. It's been long assumed that

583
00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:30,240
these people were an albino race because another description described

584
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,519
them as very small people who were perfectly white, and

585
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,319
every description has them having really big blue eyes. Most

586
00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:41,559
of the sightings happened in Georgia and before the removal

587
00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:45,400
of the Cherokee people. What's interesting about this Cherokee lore

588
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:48,319
is that they described these creatures as being a separate

589
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,359
race of people, rather than the supernatural beings that are

590
00:32:52,519 --> 00:32:56,920
fairly common in Cherokee mythology. After the attack of these

591
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,960
creatures by the Creek people, whoever was left actually fled

592
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:05,799
to the smoky mountains and we're never seen again. All

593
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:09,400
this to say that we have these monsters, But what

594
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,599
if these monsters are real? What if they're not just

595
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,240
made up? It's easy to dismiss something that we've never seen,

596
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:19,079
but there have been so many witnesses to these creatures

597
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,839
that it's hard to believe that this many people would

598
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:26,759
have made them up. Could they be aliens or vampires

599
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,920
or just different creatures that are hiding in the forests

600
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,160
of the mountains. Often the question or comment arises about

601
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,160
people coming forward after an initial sighting. A lot of

602
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,119
people believe that this is just like copycast sightings, that

603
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,920
they're coming forward they want attention. But I think there's

604
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,359
a logical explanation for this. People are scared they won't

605
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,720
be believed. We see this in UFO sidings, CRYPTID sidings,

606
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,720
and so many more. They don't speak up because who

607
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:59,079
would believe them. Plus they are probably second guessing themselves,

608
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,119
so they're wondering if they actually saw what they saw.

609
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:04,279
Then somebody else says something about it, they're like, no,

610
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,720
I did see that same thing too, So they're almost

611
00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:10,480
like looking for validation of what they had seen. We

612
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:13,519
have other questions as to why all this is happening

613
00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:17,280
in this region, Why in the Appalachian Mountains. It's believed

614
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,880
that the veil is thin in this region, The supernatural

615
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,599
veil that usually keeps them in their place and us

616
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,960
in our place slips sometimes, and Appalachia just seems to

617
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,199
be like the perfect place to do that, just because

618
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,639
it feels, like I said at the beginning, a scar

619
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,480
across the continent. Maybe that's where the veil isn't as thick.

620
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:39,719
And this also happens with timelines and dimensions as well.

621
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:45,159
Locals talk of places where the earth breathes, where compasses spin,

622
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:49,159
and where radios crackle with voices that aren't really there.

623
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,960
So is this just like a very supernatural place? But

624
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:58,320
what if it's not supernatural at all? What if they

625
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,800
have always been there? I mean, the entire region is

626
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,199
riddled with natural cave systems, salt mines, coal seams, abandoned

627
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,719
rail tunnels, and sealed military corridors that don't appear on

628
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:21,000
public maps. Since the seventeen hundreds, entire mountains have been

629
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,039
hallowed out, sometimes to the point of collapsing, while others

630
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,960
are sealed or just simply abandoned during the Cold War,

631
00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:32,760
these tunnels became valuable because they offered natural shielding from radiation.

632
00:35:33,079 --> 00:35:35,519
They were remote with low population cover, and no one

633
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,960
really tracked like what was going on with these tunnels anymore.

634
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,119
Everyone just kind of like abandoned them and left. So

635
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:42,280
it was a perfect place to go if there was

636
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,000
going to be a nuclear attack. Declassified documents confirm underground

637
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:52,000
weapons storage, radar installations, and communication hubs throughout the Appalachian region.

638
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,159
The problem is we don't know exactly what was being

639
00:35:55,199 --> 00:35:58,480
tested in this region, and that could be the thing.

640
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,480
What if they were and chemicals of some sort to

641
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:06,679
create these creatures like Mothman. It really could be straight

642
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,960
out of comic book. Why else would they write such

643
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,840
strange things in comic books if they weren't leading us

644
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:17,480
to something. Here's the thing. We seem to have clusters

645
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,800
of sightings, So for Mothman, the sidings cluster around that

646
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,239
TNT area which was the former weapons manufacturing plant, the

647
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,719
power plant, and the river crossing The Flatwood's Monster sightings

648
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,039
occurred during a period of intense military radar testing. There

649
00:36:33,039 --> 00:36:36,400
are commonalities about all the sightings of the cryptids, even

650
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,800
though they weren't exactly close to one another, so they're

651
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,000
typically seen near a fault line, quartz rich rocks, and

652
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:46,840
some sort of water source, be that a river or

653
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,840
like an underground water movement of some sort kind of

654
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,760
makes you wonder, like, what's in the water. Why are

655
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,960
all these cryptids near water? And maybe they just need

656
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:59,599
water to survive like we do, but it seems interesting

657
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:07,480
these conditions generate electromagnetic anomalies like people missing time, equipment failures, hallucinations,

658
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,719
and severe dread. But something we really need to talk

659
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,800
about or add in is the RQZ. So the RQZ

660
00:37:15,039 --> 00:37:18,239
is the National No Radio Quiet Zone. It's about thirteen

661
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:22,679
thousand square miles in parts of eastern West Virginia, Western Virginia,

662
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,280
and a bit of Maryland where radio transmissions are restricted

663
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,440
to protect scientific and intelligence facilities, especially the Green Bank

664
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:35,440
Observatory and the Sugar Grove Site. In fact, Green Bank

665
00:37:35,559 --> 00:37:38,280
is so shut down that you can't even use a

666
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,280
cell phone, Wi Fi or a microwave near it, Like

667
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,480
that's how secure it is in that area. Although some

668
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:48,320
of the cryptids we talked about are located outside of

669
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,960
the zone, there have been some sightings inside this quiet zone.

670
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,840
And that's not to say that these creatures don't live

671
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,960
inside the zone and then like kind of use the

672
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,199
tunnel system to maneuver and make trips I guess outside

673
00:38:02,199 --> 00:38:06,400
of the zone. Just makes you wonder, like, what's going

674
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,960
on with this no radio quiet zone. What we know

675
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:11,960
for sure is that these cryptids try to keep to

676
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,400
low civilization zones, including dense forests, old mining regions, and

677
00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:21,639
areas of strong geomagnetic variations. They don't want to be

678
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:26,039
seen or found. They want to be left alone. But

679
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:30,000
what do you think are these creatures of this world?

680
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:33,880
Are they supernatural? Are they real at all? Is it

681
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,360
all just made up for attention? I think that's too far.

682
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,159
I think that's going too far with all the witnesses.

683
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,199
But I'd love to know your opinions, your comments. Leave

684
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,920
them below, and until next week, stay skeptical, my friends,

685
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,760
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686
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687
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