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Speaker 1: Warren Davidson joined the show talk about a variety of
Speaker 1: different issues, including the spending cuts package that did land
Speaker 1: in the House yesterday and I got around the stroke
Speaker 1: of midnight. It passed nine billion dollars. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: one half of one percent or something along those lines,
Speaker 1: some tiny little amount. It just raised so much concern
Speaker 1: and ire of Democrats. We can't cancel this USA program.
Speaker 1: It was one of the representatives was screaming about protecting
Speaker 1: the Sesame Street in Iran program one of the dumber
Speaker 1: things identified by Doge, and believing that that would counter
Speaker 1: the anti US sentiment in Iran. Think about that. You
Speaker 1: live in a country where the motto basically is death
Speaker 1: to America and death to Israel, and you think a
Speaker 1: half hour program funded by the United States is going
Speaker 1: to change the hearts and minds, sort of like the
Speaker 1: modern day Voice of America. You don't have to use
Speaker 1: radio waves and bounce signals off of clouds into areas
Speaker 1: where they try to block the radio frequencies from coming
Speaker 1: into the countries to avoid propaganda. You just put it
Speaker 1: on TV thanks to USAID presumably multi million, if not
Speaker 1: billion dollar contribution from you, the American taxpayer. Laughable concept,
Speaker 1: at least that's how I come down. Anyway. Congress officially
Speaker 1: sent it up Spending Package deal nine billion dollars in
Speaker 1: spending cuts, that Trump's going to sign it today. I
Speaker 1: think today was a deadline. The Recision Package two sixteen
Speaker 1: to two thirteen. After an intense debate between Republicans and Democrats,
Speaker 1: the Republicans have voted against it. Representative Brian fitzpat Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: Republican and Republican Mike Turner from here in Ohio. No
Speaker 1: explanation in the reporting I saw by why Mike Turners
Speaker 1: voted know for it. So today being the deadline, the
Speaker 1: White House is going to sign it. Otherwise they have
Speaker 1: to re obligate those funds as they were initially allocated
Speaker 1: by Congress. Mike Johnson calling it a victory but symbolic.
Speaker 1: So I'm describing this as a test on efforts to
Speaker 1: claw back even more funds. And I got a parallel
Speaker 1: to draw on that. Yeah, nine billion dollars a very
Speaker 1: tiny fraction of the seven trillion dollars the federal government
Speaker 1: shells out every year. So it is symbolic in a way.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad it was block eight billion dollar block
Speaker 1: for US Agency for International Development USA one billion block
Speaker 1: that would have gone to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
Speaker 1: That's the one that got people all haunted to the
Speaker 1: collar as if NPR and PBS are going to disappear.
Speaker 1: It's a fraction of their overall budget. Most are from contributions,
Speaker 1: and many are suggesting that given the outrage express that
Speaker 1: that's going to result in even more money going to
Speaker 1: the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and PBS like all these
Speaker 1: liberal leftist donors are going to open their pocketbooks up
Speaker 1: and write checks to keep them alive, because of course
Speaker 1: you need American funding of broadcasting. It reminds me of
Speaker 1: Soviet Union Russia when he really comes down to it. Anyway,
Speaker 1: this is the first time a Decisions package has been
Speaker 1: signed into law since nineteen ninety nine. Not done very
Speaker 1: frequently so, but given the dollar amount nine billion dollars,
Speaker 1: and all the handwringing and all of the arguments and
Speaker 1: outrage express mostly from the Democrats, how about four billion
Speaker 1: dollars slightly less than half of the total amount of
Speaker 1: that is in the recision bill. It was that he's
Speaker 1: going to sign California's high speed rail It was announced
Speaker 1: earlier this week the Transportation Secretary to Sean Duffy terminated
Speaker 1: four billion dollars in unspent federal funding going from the
Speaker 1: Federal Railroad Administration, your taxpayer dollars to this high speed
Speaker 1: rail project that's gone literally nowhere in California. Four billion dollars.
Speaker 1: In his statement, Duffy said, this is California's fault. Governor Knwsman,
Speaker 1: the complicit Democrats have enabled this waste four years. Federal
Speaker 1: dollars are not a blank check. They come with a
Speaker 1: promise to deliver results. The announcement followed months of scrutiny
Speaker 1: after a comprehensive compliance review, along with feled attempts by
Speaker 1: California High Speed Rail Authority CHISRA to address the product deficiencies.
Speaker 1: Duffy's statement, after over a decade of failures, just as
Speaker 1: management incompetence has proven it cannot build, it's trained to
Speaker 1: nowhere on time, We're on budget. It's time for this
Speaker 1: boondoggle to die. President Trump and I will always fight
Speaker 1: to ensure your tax dollars only go to projects that
Speaker 1: accomplish great, big, beautiful things. Fine, how much? How many
Speaker 1: miles of rail did they build on this? This has
Speaker 1: been going on for years. Zero. Not a single track
Speaker 1: has been laid since ground was broken ten years ago. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: costs continued to balloon. President Trump said, you know, to
Speaker 1: the law abiding, tax paying, hardworking citizens of the United
Speaker 1: States of America, I'm thrilled amounts that I've officially freed
Speaker 1: you from funding California's disasterly overpriced I Speed Trained to Nowhere.
Speaker 1: He went on, miss boondoggle led by Incomona Governor California
Speaker 1: Gavin new Scum, as he always refers to him as
Speaker 1: cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars and we have
Speaker 1: received nothing in return except cost overrun. The railroad we
Speaker 1: were promised still does not exist and never will. This
Speaker 1: project was severely overpriced, overregulated, and never delivered thanks to
Speaker 1: Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. Not a single penny and federal
Speaker 1: dollars will go toward the Newscomb scam. Ever, again, this
Speaker 1: was an ill conceived and unnecessary project in a total
Speaker 1: waste of taxpayer money. But no more. There you go.
Speaker 1: Representative Kevin Kelley, he's Republican in California. He sponsored legislation
Speaker 1: to prohibit further federal funding of this boondoggle project, saying
Speaker 1: California's icepeed rail is the worst public infrastructure disaster in
Speaker 1: US history. The project that was supposed to be finished,
Speaker 1: these were the facts really are just mind boggling, as
Speaker 1: he notes, the project was supposed to be finished five
Speaker 1: years ago. Remember, ground broke ten years ago and they
Speaker 1: haven't laid a single track. Supposed to be finished five
Speaker 1: years ago at a cost of thirty three billion dollar
Speaker 1: dollars is now projected to take till the end of
Speaker 1: this century at a cost of one hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: billion dollars. I'm grateful that Trump and Secretary Duff you
Speaker 1: are sparing our taxpayers by cutting off federal funding. The
Speaker 1: state must now follow suit with this disastrous project down
Speaker 1: and spend our transportation dollars where they are needed our roads.
Speaker 1: This some of course, didn't take this lying down, obviously
Speaker 1: threatening lawsuits. Release the statement in response to the Trump
Speaker 1: administration what they determined to call illegally determining federal grant
Speaker 1: agreements from the funding California's high speed rail and get
Speaker 1: a load of the statement. Newsom Trump wants to hand
Speaker 1: China the future and abandon the Central Valley. How does
Speaker 1: China come into the equation? What does China have anything
Speaker 1: to do with this boondoggle project? Go ahead, make some
Speaker 1: sense of that if you will. If you come over
Speaker 1: with an answer, please call Newson went on. We won't
Speaker 1: let him with projects like the Texas High Speed Rail
Speaker 1: failing to take off. We are miles ahead of others,
Speaker 1: miles ahead of others. That's actually a funny statement, given
Speaker 1: it a zero miles of track have been laid and
Speaker 1: the project has been basically a non starter since it
Speaker 1: ground brog ten years ago. Think a little bit more
Speaker 1: about your words, Gavin. Then he what goes on to say,
Speaker 1: we're now in the track laying phase and building America's
Speaker 1: only high speed rail California, putting all options on the
Speaker 1: table to fight this illegal action. Of course it'll end
Speaker 1: up in court. Oh the Dot also pointed out that
Speaker 1: they were going to pursue recovery of previously dispersed funds,
Speaker 1: claw back what you and I have paid for so
Speaker 1: far on the project that hasn't or yielded any fruit
Speaker 1: at all. In addition to canceling that four billion and
Speaker 1: unspent funds, Secretary Ducky Duffy directed the Rail Authority to
Speaker 1: review other obligated and unobligated grants related to this boondoggle project.
Speaker 1: Back in June, there was a three hundred page report
Speaker 1: that was released. It looked at the project and found delays,
Speaker 1: missed deadlines, mismanagement, waste, skyrocketing costs, budget shortfalls, and over
Speaker 1: representation of product project ridership. Other key findings in the
Speaker 1: report revealed that the project faced ongoing and increasing contractor
Speaker 1: cost overruns due to delays. That's inflation. It's called inflation.
Speaker 1: You know you're gotta start a project today. If you
Speaker 1: don't start it until ten years from now, guess what
Speaker 1: ten years from now, it's going to be more expensive
Speaker 1: to do. Duh. Initially it was that it was sold
Speaker 1: as a two phase what they describe as visionary system
Speaker 1: connecting LA at a San Francisco and then later north
Speaker 1: the Sacramento and south to San Diego. Boy, that was
Speaker 1: a big project. Boy, this is going to be great
Speaker 1: when it gets done. Hm. That three hundred page report
Speaker 1: pointed out there's a seven billion dollar funding gap to
Speaker 1: complete a subset of the first phase in the Central
Speaker 1: Valley connecting Merca to Bakersfield. Where how many riders are
Speaker 1: going to be on that leg if they ever built it,
Speaker 1: And they have not built even part of it yet.
Speaker 1: And since the project's inception, that grand two phase visionary
Speaker 1: system connecting LA to San Francisco and Sacramentoo south to
Speaker 1: San Diego, it has been dramatically reduced the project size
Speaker 1: from an eight hundred mile segment to a one hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy one mile segment, again at an escalating cost,
Speaker 1: now up to one hundred and thirty billion dollars and
Speaker 1: again and not a single track laid. So okay, that's
Speaker 1: why I brought it up. Four billion dollars for that
Speaker 1: one project funding pulled unspent nine billion dollars in the
Speaker 1: recision package, which I think goes to the point it
Speaker 1: probably could have been a lot bigger recision package. Keep
Speaker 1: your popcorn out and wait for Decision Package number two,
Speaker 1: which is already being discussed five nineteen. Right now, feel
Speaker 1: free to give me a call if you've got something
Speaker 1: you want to talk about. I'd love to hear from you.
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Speaker 1: perhaps what we could all argue is better artificial intelligence
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Speaker 1: Tom Happy Friday, Welcome in the morning, show my friend.
Speaker 5: Thank good morning.
Speaker 4: Hey.
Speaker 5: I with working and doing everything else, I don't get
Speaker 5: a chance to pay as much attention to things as
Speaker 5: I liked. Was there a follow up on that? Remember
Speaker 5: that story? Yesterday? Right after I got off the boat.
Speaker 5: He talked about a guy that followed some woman at
Speaker 5: home and he had his kids in the car and
Speaker 5: wound up going to her house to get in a
Speaker 5: fight with the husband or something. You remember that story?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah?
Speaker 5: Was there a follow up, like a news conference from
Speaker 5: Claremont County or anything on that story? Because if I
Speaker 5: heard the story correctly, he got separated from his kits.
Speaker 5: Isn't that like a big deal? Isn't that like the
Speaker 5: worst ever, right.
Speaker 1: No, no, no protesters, No protesters in the street talking
Speaker 1: about the separation of children from dad.
Speaker 5: Now, oh, I think we ought to get something started
Speaker 5: at least a go bug me page.
Speaker 1: Yeah. My recollection, my recollection of the story is that
Speaker 1: his wife, the mother of the kids he had in
Speaker 1: the car with him when he entered that home illegally,
Speaker 1: actually helped the police arrest.
Speaker 5: Him, met up with him at a convenience story. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I guess she got the kids.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm going on that one. She obviously is
Speaker 1: far more responsible than he is in terms of decision making.
Speaker 5: So yeah, where you come up with a baseless accusation
Speaker 5: like that? Yeah, well one and the same subject, but
Speaker 5: to switch it up a little bit.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 5: One of the best takedowns ever was Tom Holman and
Speaker 5: AOC where she's grilling him about the whole separation of
Speaker 5: families and oh, you know all these families are being separated,
Speaker 5: and he's talking about zero intolerance, and he basically smelled
Speaker 5: out for, look, if I get pulled over for a
Speaker 5: DUI and now get arrested, I'm gonna be separated from
Speaker 5: my children. And what happens to everybody these people a screen,
Speaker 5: bloody murder when normal, everyday stuff happens that what happened
Speaker 5: to you? And I, oh, it's happening to an immigrant.
Speaker 5: Oh no, it's terrible. These people are absolutely ridiculous. They
Speaker 5: make no sense. And then you got the senator I
Speaker 5: forget where she's from, just recently was talking about how
Speaker 5: you know, the Democrats we need to we need to understand,
Speaker 5: we need to know where these people are coming from. Well,
Speaker 5: that's exactly what Republicans have been saying. And in the
Speaker 5: whole phase, he's like, oh, well, immigrants or Republicans are
Speaker 5: foment to immigrant hate.
Speaker 6: No we're not.
Speaker 5: We're saying exactly what you were saying. It's just and
Speaker 5: when we say it, we're apparently hateful. And when you
Speaker 5: say you're altruistic and you have so much compassion and
Speaker 5: all that, you're full of crap? Is what's your lady?
Speaker 5: And all Democrats are so don't vote Democrat. Have a
Speaker 5: great league in Bryan, you.
Speaker 1: Too, Tom. I always wait to see how he's going
Speaker 1: to ultimately arrive at his conclusion. Yeah, and Donald Trump
Speaker 1: lies awake at night thinking about the day when he
Speaker 1: can reach Barack Obama levels of deportation. I think he
Speaker 1: was the king of deportation, at least in terms of
Speaker 1: overall numbers of illegal immigrants deported under any administration. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay when Barack Obama does it, but because evil
Speaker 1: Orange Man's behind the effort, it's now bad times. They
Speaker 1: are changing over the local stories. Internal email WCPO looked
Speaker 1: into this, showing details of the Sinsini Police Department's plan
Speaker 1: to increase its presence and over the Rhine because of
Speaker 1: the rise and violent crime. Email apparently explains a new
Speaker 1: detail requiring offers to be officers to be visible on
Speaker 1: Vine and Main Streets from Central Parkway to Liberty Street
Speaker 1: between noon and midnight. And apparently if the department doesn't
Speaker 1: have enough volunteers to do this patrol, the email says
Speaker 1: officers will be mandated, that's the word in the email,
Speaker 1: to fill the shifts that on top of the regular shifts.
Speaker 1: FOP president Ken Kober, talking to WCPO about this, said
Speaker 1: officers are stretched too thin right now, and adding another
Speaker 1: eight hours of walking outside their schedule just is probably
Speaker 1: not going to fly. He said, We're going past this
Speaker 1: is no longer a volunteer. We're going to force you
Speaker 1: to do this if you don't sign up and work it,
Speaker 1: and that's where officers are saying enough is enough. He said.
Speaker 1: He also questioned the need in that particular area, noting
Speaker 1: that's not really where the bulk of the crime is
Speaker 1: being committed. And that's kind of what I was scratching
Speaker 1: my head over, especially given that the shift is noon
Speaker 1: to midnight. Joe, isn't it your recollection that most of
Speaker 1: the crimes and the murders and the assaults happen right
Speaker 1: around two thirty in the morning or three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning. Yeah, I mean, that's what I've been reading
Speaker 1: for the past what months, not all of it, I'll acknowledge.
Speaker 1: CBO check the data showed that there have been four
Speaker 1: homicides in Over the Rhine this year, one in that
Speaker 1: patrol area, twenty nine aggravated assaults in all of Over
Speaker 1: the Rhine, just a handful of them in the area
Speaker 1: of the patrol. So go ahead and scratch your head
Speaker 1: over that one. Data shows most violent crime and over
Speaker 1: the Rhine is happening north of Liberty Street, so outside
Speaker 1: of the new patrol area. Cober says he's wondering if
Speaker 1: three CDC is the one behind the effort in an
Speaker 1: effort to protect his investments and over the Rhine organization
Speaker 1: owns or manages much of the property in the designated area.
Speaker 1: When you call a shift a detail, can Cober, talking
Speaker 1: with Tanya Orourke at CBO, said that means a third
Speaker 1: party like three CDC is footing the bill. He said,
Speaker 1: am I nearly twenty five years here, I have never
Speaker 1: heard of an instance where officers are forced to work
Speaker 1: for a private company. So CPO pivoted over to three
Speaker 1: CDC's president, who said he doesn't pay for the details,
Speaker 1: but he does pay for details rather, but he's not
Speaker 1: paying for this one. Cobra estimates that it's going to
Speaker 1: cost about sixty thousand dollars a month. CPO talked tried
Speaker 1: to get police chief and the city manager's office to
Speaker 1: comment on it, but they did not receive a response
Speaker 1: by the time the story was reported. H five thirty six,
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Speaker 1: must be five forty on a Friday, because of course,
Speaker 1: and Joe Strecker is your executive ducer and he's a
Speaker 1: Primis fan. That's what you get in a very happy Friday.
Speaker 1: Wo segue into the stacking stupid. And it's Friday, so
Speaker 1: we got naked people in the stacking stupid. We'll start
Speaker 1: with a naked people in a stolen RV. Not Florida,
Speaker 1: West Virginia, where a couple was naked and having sex
Speaker 1: in a stolen RV. Cops pulled a moving vehicle over
Speaker 1: after a spot in the driver being straddled by his
Speaker 1: intoxicated female passenger. During the traffic stop in Bluefield, Appalachian
Speaker 1: Mountain City. Patrolman approach the RV found Shannon Bryant, thirty five,
Speaker 1: now sitting behind the wheel. Passerby yelled out that the
Speaker 1: occupants had switched seats before I made contact with them,
Speaker 1: stated Officer Ham, who added that Matthew McDonald forty eight,
Speaker 1: was the passion in the passenger seat. I inquired about
Speaker 1: their actions while the vehicle is in motion, Yes, said
Speaker 1: to it, which Miss Brian candidly responded, we were f wording.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Of course that's not the way she phrased it.
Speaker 1: Mister Bryant, MS, who appeared to be highly intoxicated that's
Speaker 1: in the report. And McDonald were ordered out of the
Speaker 1: RV after being read as rights. McDonald reportedly admitted that
Speaker 1: he and Bryant were naked and attempting to engage in
Speaker 1: sexual activity while driving, and they switched seats upon being
Speaker 1: spotted by the squad. Car search of the vehicle turned
Speaker 1: up drug paraphernalia, bag containing white powdery substance and pain killers,
Speaker 1: and broken glass pipe in the area. I think I
Speaker 1: read this one earlier in the week. Bryan told police
Speaker 1: that McDonald had thrown drugs from the vehicle during the
Speaker 1: traffic stop. Vehicle check revealed the RV had been reported
Speaker 1: stolen from Princeton, a nearby city. The arrest of for
Speaker 1: indecent exposure, drug possession, DUI have possession of a stolen vehicle.
Speaker 1: Both have pleaded not guilty. Have extensive criminal records that
Speaker 1: have not been able to post bond. Okay, Florida. You
Speaker 1: knew Florida was going to show up here at always
Speaker 1: is in the news in the stack of stupid. We
Speaker 1: got a Florida man behind bars on a felony charge
Speaker 1: for a pair of Walmart sex toy thefts. What forty
Speaker 1: year old Jeffrey LaForge arrested Friday in a pair of
Speaker 1: theft counts, which he's being held in lieu of a
Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars bond. Wow, obviously we're not in California
Speaker 1: on this one. Two separate occasions, police charged that he
Speaker 1: swiped a variety of adult toys from Walmart in South
Speaker 1: Pasadena and Penelas County. SETI. Store security cameras reported Lafarge
Speaker 1: removing items from their packaging and then leaving the Walmart
Speaker 1: without paying for them. The two hundred and eighty dollars
Speaker 1: worth of good stolen included a thirty one dollars and
Speaker 1: forty four cent quote Tush toys close quote Hold on,
Speaker 1: let me get a reading from Jim. You would advise
Speaker 1: against saying, okay, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Going to.
Speaker 1: One other I'd have valuated fourteen dollars and ninety eight cents.
Speaker 1: Will not be identified by its name on the fifty
Speaker 1: five Caroseme Morning show even at the five o'clock hour.
Speaker 1: It's only fifteen dollars, Joe, And apparently they have them
Speaker 1: at Walmart, so you know if you're interested. Also accused
Speaker 1: of stealing a Reese's Peanut butter ice cream. Valued at
Speaker 1: three dollars and ninety eight cents. And they have a
Speaker 1: whole list of the different sort of I guess marital
Speaker 1: aids that he stole. There's quite a few of them, say.
Speaker 1: It's not clear whether the sex toys were in and
Speaker 1: for personal use or resale, though the lack of packaging
Speaker 1: might cause a perspective buyer concern that the items were used. Yes,
Speaker 1: he took them out of their packages before walking out
Speaker 1: with him gross. This merchandise value less than thousand dollars
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Speaker 1: to get back over the stack is stupid? And why
Speaker 1: not quote to Louisiana for this one smoking gun reported
Speaker 1: with no defense in hand. A man has fleeted guilty
Speaker 1: to an obscenity charge for pleasuring himself inside a storage
Speaker 1: shed that was for sale at a Lowe's in Louisiana.
Speaker 1: Maybe a hockey player joe that is possible storage shed
Speaker 1: about the same size as a penalty box. Sixty six
Speaker 1: year old George kaliavas Mid of the fellerity charge during
Speaker 1: a district court hearing. He was locked up on a
Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars bail after his mail eleventh rest at
Speaker 1: the Lowe's outlet in Slidel released from custody after his
Speaker 1: July fourteenth guilty plea. As detailed in the police department report,
Speaker 1: cops responded to the home improvement store upon receiving a
Speaker 1: nine to one one call from a store manager about,
Speaker 1: in quotes, a mail subject naked inside a shed for
Speaker 1: sale at the Loewe's parking Lot phrasing. During a canvas
Speaker 1: of this various storage sheds located in the Loew's parking lot,
Speaker 1: Officer Brian LeBlanc discovered Calivius Quote lying in a soupine
Speaker 1: position on the floor of the shed beneath the window.
Speaker 1: Pants and underwear were at his ankles, and he was
Speaker 1: using his left hand to touch his exposed private parts.
Speaker 1: Why are you doing that? Le Blank noted that there
Speaker 1: was an open tube of vaciline petroleum jelly to the
Speaker 1: immediate left of Calebas's person that's in the rest report.
Speaker 1: In the report, it also says he was watching an
Speaker 1: unknown video on his cellular phone and he had headphones
Speaker 1: in his ears. After being handcuffed and his riots, he
Speaker 1: advised that he had been well pleasuring himself. Not his words.
Speaker 1: He was a little bit more graphic inside the enclosure,
Speaker 1: one of multiple sheds Lows had on display for sale
Speaker 1: while customers are free to browse the shed. That was
Speaker 1: noted in the arrest report. He had no reasonable expectation
Speaker 1: of privacy in the shed. Wow, Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what the clean up situation involved, Joe. There was no
Speaker 1: comment on that from the Lows personnel. Forty six year
Speaker 1: old man taking it into custody after an alleged assault
Speaker 1: and failed to escape attempt were in Sumter Counting, South
Speaker 1: Carolina for this one, where deputies say that Kelly Jack
Speaker 1: Brielan was found naked in a tree after reportedly assaulting
Speaker 1: someone at a home ten minutes after two am Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Deputies responded to the residents after reports of an assault.
Speaker 1: Witnesses say he became violent and assaulted a before leaving
Speaker 1: the house completely naked. After a short search, deputies located
Speaker 1: him in the aforementioned tree. Rested charge with a second
Speaker 1: degree assault and battery, as well as third degree domestic violence.
Speaker 1: Taken to the Sheriff's office detention center, being held on
Speaker 1: a twenty five thousand dollars bond. Obviously not in Hamilton County. Asheville,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, man arrested for running naked around the West
Speaker 1: Ashville neighborhood and attempting to break into at least one
Speaker 1: home has pleaded guilty. Why are you doing that? Let's
Speaker 1: find out maybe. Back in August, the twenty three officers
Speaker 1: with the Ashville Police Department dispatched at Madeleine Avenue. Homeowners
Speaker 1: reported hearing a man yelling in their next door neighbors
Speaker 1: fenced in backyard. They said that after directing two young
Speaker 1: children inside their home, the residents said the naked man
Speaker 1: jumped over the fence into their yard and attempted the
Speaker 1: ender the side door of the house, but arrival police
Speaker 1: later found the naked guy, identified as Ronald Jamal Billings,
Speaker 1: inside a home that was under construction Billings originally charged
Speaker 1: with felony indecent exposure, misdemeanor decent exposure, felony breaking, rendering
Speaker 1: with intent to terrorize, misdemeanor breaking and entering injury to
Speaker 1: personal property, first degree trespassing, and resisting slash delay, slash obstructing.
Speaker 1: In the plea deal, however, he pleaded guilty of the
Speaker 1: misdemeanor indecent exposure and resisting public off a public officer,
Speaker 1: sentenced to forty five days served. Notably a neck tattoo guy.
Speaker 1: And finally, we'll end in Englewood, Florida, where a man
Speaker 1: completely naked arrested Saturday in Englewood after being accused of
Speaker 1: charging at a deputy and threatening others. Charlotte County Sheriff's
Speaker 1: Office said they responded to the area of Placida Road
Speaker 1: on reports of a naked guy in public, yelling profanities
Speaker 1: and threatening to harm. A woman who happened to be
Speaker 1: carrying a baby. Showed up found the forty year old
Speaker 1: Justin Grover Miller, completely naked and yelling at Unknone. Suspects
Speaker 1: refused to acknowledge the deputies adhere to their command. Ignoring deputies,
Speaker 1: he continued to walk through a public park towards Santa
Speaker 1: Caslor Drive. Miller then ran towards a Dollar General in
Speaker 1: the area. When he observed deputies approaching. They followed him
Speaker 1: into the store and tased him twice after he failed
Speaker 1: to follow verbal commands. He did manage to escape and
Speaker 1: began running through the Dollar General parking lot, exposing himselself
Speaker 1: completely to other patrons, as well as children in the area.
Speaker 1: That time, Miller charged directly toward the deputies on the
Speaker 1: scene and forcibly ran through the officer. He was ultimately
Speaker 1: taken into custody for resisting with violence, batteran law enforcement officer,
Speaker 1: and exposure of sexual organs to the public. Five fifteen
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Speaker 1: And I still haven't quite made heads or tail out
Speaker 1: of this. Donald Trump called to release, in his words,
Speaker 1: all pertinent grand jury testimony regarding Jeffrey Epstein. This after
Speaker 1: this high profile craziness that's been going on, of course,
Speaker 1: the reversal of the promise that we were going to
Speaker 1: get the documents and wait a minute, there's nothing here.
Speaker 1: There is no file, there is no list, We've got nothing.
Speaker 1: And that sounds kind of strange coming from the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: Who's many of the Trump supporters are claiming all kinds
Speaker 1: of conspiracy theories or at least asking for the answer
Speaker 1: to many questions that are looming out there. Like I
Speaker 1: said yesterday, based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given
Speaker 1: to Jeffrey Epstein. I've asked Atorney General Pan Bondi to
Speaker 1: produce any and all pertinent grand jury testimony, subject to
Speaker 1: court approval. This scam all caps perpetrated by Democrats should
Speaker 1: end right now, Bondi in her response, President Trump, we
Speaker 1: are ready to move the court tomorrow to unseal the
Speaker 1: grand jury transcripts.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: This, oddly enough, probably leading to more speculation and conspiracy theories,
Speaker 1: coincides with The Wall Street Journal publishing the reports that
Speaker 1: Donald Trump signed a card. I think it was related
Speaker 1: to Epstein's fiftieth birthday. This is many years before he
Speaker 1: was accused of, tried and convicted of well molesting children
Speaker 1: two thousand. Yeah, go way back to two thousand and
Speaker 1: three for this one. Although Donald Trump denies that it's his,
Speaker 1: so he says he's prepared a lawsuit against Wall Street Journal. Quote.
Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch personally were warned
Speaker 1: directly by President Donald J. Trump that the supposed letter
Speaker 1: they printed by President Trump to Epstein was a fake
Speaker 1: and if they printed, they will be sued. Mister Murdock
Speaker 1: stated that he would take care of it, but obviously
Speaker 1: did not have the power to do so. The editor
Speaker 1: of Wall Street Journal. Emma Tucker was told directly by
Speaker 1: Carolyn Levitt and by President Trump that the letter was
Speaker 1: a fake, but Emma Tucker didn't want to hear that. Instead,
Speaker 1: they're going with false, malicious and defamatory story. Anyway, press
Speaker 1: has to learn to be truthful and not rely on
Speaker 1: sources that probably don't even exist. Also called the Wall
Speaker 1: Street Journal a disgusting and filthy rag. If there were
Speaker 1: any truth to all at all on the Epstein hoax,
Speaker 1: as it pertains the President Trump, this information would have
Speaker 1: been revealed by Comy Brennan, Crooked Hillary, and other radical
Speaker 1: left lunatics years ago. Now that I think that is
Speaker 1: a valid point. I mean they actually went out of
Speaker 1: a limb and made stuff up whole cloth about Trump
Speaker 1: and then went immediately to the press with for your
Speaker 1: quote unquote leaks from inside confidential sources or well, here's
Speaker 1: the Steele dossier, which ultimately was leaked and it was fake.
Speaker 1: So there is a precedent for Donald Trump calling this
Speaker 1: card a fake, and that's what the Wall Street Journal
Speaker 1: reported on. Now, I didn't see a photograph or a
Speaker 1: shot of the card, but apparently there's an outline he
Speaker 1: made it a sort of a not an obscene gesture,
Speaker 1: but it was an outline of a naked woman. And
Speaker 1: it's a happy birthday, and may every day be another
Speaker 1: wonderful secret was scrawled down there. The letter bears Trump's name,
Speaker 1: several typewritten texts framed by the outline of a naked woman.
Speaker 1: Trump said, that isn't anything he would ever say, and
Speaker 1: he has never drawn a picture of a naked woman ever.
Speaker 1: So you have a precedent for the Democrats lying and
Speaker 1: making things up. You have Donald Trump reversing on the
Speaker 1: release of the Epstein documents. Now he's calling for the
Speaker 1: release of the grand jury testimony. That's, I guess, part
Speaker 1: of the total package of information, which is does anybody
Speaker 1: else perceive that as a one hundred and eighty degree
Speaker 1: shift from where he was just the other day calling
Speaker 1: this all nonsense and made up and telling his supporters
Speaker 1: to quit, just drop the whole thing, generally speaking, because
Speaker 1: there's nothing there.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: Certain Trump detractors will say no, the only reason and
Speaker 1: he did that and changed gears and went down that
Speaker 1: roads because well, among the documents was this birthday card
Speaker 1: from two thousand and three, which contains a picture a
Speaker 1: drawn image of a naked woman and happy birthday, and
Speaker 1: may every day be another wonderful secret. God knows what
Speaker 1: that's supposed to even mean. JD. Van, for his part,
Speaker 1: also criticized the Wall Street Journal forgive my language, but
Speaker 1: this story is complete and other bs. He didn't say
Speaker 1: bs he wrote out the whole word. The Wall Street
Speaker 1: Journal should be a shamed for publishing it. Where is
Speaker 1: this letter? He asked, Would you be shocked to learn
Speaker 1: that they never showed it to us before publishing it?
Speaker 1: Does anyone honestly believe this sounds like Donald Trump? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure there are people who believe it does sound
Speaker 1: like Donald Trump. There's a lot of people out there
Speaker 1: that hate scuts and believe literally anything out there. So
Speaker 1: we're kind of left to wonder. And in the final analysis,
Speaker 1: I just say, gal, find you're gonna release the grandjury
Speaker 1: testimone really everything else that is unless and no one
Speaker 1: has answered this question, are they're currently ongoing investigations into
Speaker 1: people who hung out with Epstein that molested young women
Speaker 1: broke the law in doing so. If those investigations are
Speaker 1: going on, that would provide the absolute prevention of the
Speaker 1: release of the document to the extents it relates to
Speaker 1: the prosecution or the investigations of potential criminal activity, that'd
Speaker 1: be a legitimate reason not to bring it out. You
Speaker 1: could say that out loud. I know the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice doesn't comment on ongoing investigations, but under the circumstances,
Speaker 1: it seems like an appropriate time to say, no, we
Speaker 1: have some pending criminal investigations. We're not going to daim
Speaker 1: names that are ongoing. But the documents in these so
Speaker 1: called Epstein files that aren't released do relate to those investigations,
Speaker 1: and as a consequence, can't be released because they might
Speaker 1: interfere with the investigation. That's a perfectly legitimate claim to assert,
Speaker 1: but it hasn't been asserted, and that's one of the
Speaker 1: looming questions many people have out there. Listen, this guy
Speaker 1: was involved, and everyone knows it knows, notably because he
Speaker 1: was convicted of it, but continue to be involved with
Speaker 1: fooling around with underage women, and he hung out with
Speaker 1: a lot of people, and a lot of them. There's
Speaker 1: victims list. There's people who've come forward and said they
Speaker 1: were victims of Epstein molesting them and victims of others
Speaker 1: molesting them. Members of the royal family included, right, are
Speaker 1: they going to be brought to justice? Just asking, I'd
Speaker 1: like to think so, or I'd like to get the
Speaker 1: definitive answer that no, all of this was blown out
Speaker 1: of proportion. But at least in so far as Trump
Speaker 1: is concerned. He did make a great point, and that is,
Speaker 1: if this actually exist, if this was a real thing,
Speaker 1: this letter that he allegedly penned him to Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 1: then yes, it certainly would have been brought up by
Speaker 1: the Left. I can't imagine them passing on an opportunity
Speaker 1: if it's a genuine document, unlike the Steele dossier, which
Speaker 1: they they held up and waved around and claimed as
Speaker 1: genuine for years. That was whole cloth made up. But
Speaker 1: if his card was actually in there, and it actually
Speaker 1: was done by Donald Trump, they certainly would have brought
Speaker 1: it up, unless, of course, the other conspiracy theory is
Speaker 1: that no, they couldn't bring it up because filled within
Speaker 1: the among the Epstein documents, let's just call him a
Speaker 1: bunch of banker's box lit of documents, there's damning evidence
Speaker 1: against Democrats, in which case it would have been worth
Speaker 1: their time to bring up that one document, because then
Speaker 1: we'd all be clamoring and calling for more documents to
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Speaker 1: Trump's getting some I've work done. He had an executive
Speaker 1: quarterback in January regarding gender related surgery and treatment of
Speaker 1: miners in hospitals with hormone replacement therapy. The therapy the
Speaker 1: Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation that he signed
Speaker 1: January twenty eighth of this year, stating the administration will
Speaker 1: not fund, sponsored, promote, assist, or support so called transition
Speaker 1: of a child from one sex to another, and that
Speaker 1: will rigorously enforce all laws that prohibit or limit these
Speaker 1: destructive and life threatening procedures patients nineteen and under. Chemical
Speaker 1: and surgical surgical mutilation includes the use of pubity blockers,
Speaker 1: sex hormones, and surgical procedures. That's a cord to the
Speaker 1: order that you can see on the White House web page.
Speaker 1: Attorney General Pamela Bond He said, medical professionals and organizations
Speaker 1: that mutilated children in the service of a warped ideology
Speaker 1: will be held accountable by this Department of Justice. Well,
Speaker 1: apparently it's working. Fox reporting the hospitals now are not
Speaker 1: providing this so called gender affirming care for youth patients
Speaker 1: in accordance with the executive order. Go to Russia Medical
Speaker 1: Center in Chicago announced it it is stopping the treatments.
Speaker 1: Spokesperson for Rush Klinger said that it has paused hormonal
Speaker 1: therapies for new patients under the age of eighteen. Although
Speaker 1: apparently adults can continue to be eligible for the treatments,
Speaker 1: and miners who are already receiving these so called gender
Speaker 1: related gender affirming care treatments will continue to get them.
Speaker 1: HMM Department of Justices earlier this month announced that it
Speaker 1: issued more than twenty subpoenas the doctors and clinics involved
Speaker 1: in performing these procedures. New York Presbyterian also removed and
Speaker 1: changing even its online verbage of the COMPASS program, described
Speaker 1: previously as a safe space for youth navigating their gender
Speaker 1: experience and offering puberty suppression and gender affirming hormone treatment.
Speaker 1: Now they described the program as a supportive space for
Speaker 1: youth and gender Any references to gender affirming care have
Speaker 1: been taken off New York Presbyterian's website, and their spokesperson said,
Speaker 1: we continue to work through this evolving situation to comply
Speaker 1: with applicable state and federal laws and rags as always
Speaker 1: our priorities to serve all of our patients in compassionate
Speaker 1: and responsible way. Stanford Medicine halted their quote gender affirming surgeries,
Speaker 1: according to their statement, after careful review of the latest
Speaker 1: actions and directives from the federal government. Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: following consultations with clinical leadership, including our multidisciplinary LGBTQ plus
Speaker 1: program and its providers, Stanford paused providing gender related surgical
Speaker 1: procedures as part of our comprehensive range of medical services
Speaker 1: for LGBTQ plus patients and under the age of nineteen,
Speaker 1: effective June second of this year. Cleveland Clinic also said
Speaker 1: it does not provide gender firming treatments to patients of
Speaker 1: the age of nineteen. So it's a growing trend, folks,
Speaker 1: And this is, of course a trend that's been growing
Speaker 1: for a long time. Over in Europe. Quite a few
Speaker 1: countries have banned this. It's outright malpractice. They determined it
Speaker 1: doesn't do any good for these In fact, researchers determined
Speaker 1: that the rate of depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, and substance
Speaker 1: use disorders were in the studies words, significantly higher among
Speaker 1: those with gender dysphoria who underwent surgery, which is a
Speaker 1: way of saying the surgery actually exacerbates the problem. And
Speaker 1: that seems totally logical and reasonable to me. Now you're
Speaker 1: suffering from gender dicephia, you really really really want to
Speaker 1: be a woman. If you're a guy or of course
Speaker 1: a guy, if you're a woman, surgery is not going
Speaker 1: to accomplish that. It's recreating or creating from whole cloth
Speaker 1: genitals that didn't previously exist. And to the extent anyone
Speaker 1: has an expectation that they are going to perform and
Speaker 1: function the way that biological men and women's genitals function
Speaker 1: is completely duped. Go ahead and read into that. The
Speaker 1: complications associated with sewing something on or turning something inside
Speaker 1: out are unbelievable, and yeah, I can imagine that might
Speaker 1: cause you the suicidal ideation, significant anxiety, and also compound
Speaker 1: any substance use disorders that you might have if you
Speaker 1: go through and get the surgery. Wait a second, did
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Speaker 4: about so many times, which is fishing and spoofing. So
Speaker 4: I know when people hear all these terms are like
Speaker 4: now what does that really mean? So spoofing is the
Speaker 4: idea that virtually anything that's digital, an entire website, an email,
Speaker 4: a text message now thanks to AI, video, audio, etc.
Speaker 4: Can be boofed. Right, it's bogus, it's not legitimate. And
Speaker 4: then you know, I think everyone knows what fishing is,
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Speaker 4: specific technical names, but you know, phishing, I'm going to
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Speaker 4: The more nefarious part though, is it's a completely spoofed message,
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Speaker 4: mail list, and somewhere along the way you get tired
Speaker 4: of the emails you decide to unsubscribe. This is a
Speaker 4: legitimate organization. You know, they can Spam Act, which is
Speaker 4: a law that tries to regulate and control spam, which
Speaker 4: obviously isn't working very good. As I'm sure everyone could agree,
Speaker 4: you know, requires you know certain things of legitimate companies,
Speaker 4: so you know, you can legitimately unsubscribe from some mail
Speaker 4: list if you're dealing with a legitimate company. But to
Speaker 4: your point, companies don't want you to unsubscribe. They often
Speaker 4: make it tricky, and the real bottom line is by
Speaker 4: using the unsubscribed feature of something that you are not
Speaker 4: unless you have like a ninety nine percent conference level.
Speaker 4: It's real. By using that unsubscribed link. Again, at best,
Speaker 4: you've just told someone there is a warm body here,
Speaker 4: and at worst it might be a thinly veiled attempt
Speaker 4: to get you to do some of the farious or
Speaker 4: something that will lead to the farious activity in your name.
Speaker 4: So my advice would be, since it's hard to tell
Speaker 4: when the spooky keeps improving, don't bother unsubscribing. Simply if
Speaker 4: you wonder if truly unsubscribe, you go to the organization
Speaker 4: that's sending you the emails, go to their website, unsubscribe
Speaker 4: for whatever you need to do from their website, or
Speaker 4: simply just start blocking the mails, right, Just tell it,
Speaker 4: Tell your mail client this is spam, send it to
Speaker 4: junk block it, and then you won't see them anymore.
Speaker 4: So sadly, Brian, this is just another example of how
Speaker 4: creative these people are and how they will leverage legitimate
Speaker 4: concepts to defraud you in some way.
Speaker 1: Yeah again, I suppose you today it's like one of
Speaker 1: those count to ten moments when you encounter anything like this,
Speaker 1: you know, be very start on the unjaded, cynical and
Speaker 1: suspicious and start with a position that it's probably not real.
Speaker 4: And then that's a smart approach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then, as always, go to the original website.
Speaker 1: You've offered that advice so many times, that's why I'm
Speaker 1: repeating it. It's like I can't believe no one has
Speaker 1: gotten the message yet never ever, ever, opt break through
Speaker 1: whatever you have gotten unsolicited. If it sounds like a
Speaker 1: good idea, like yeah, I really did want to unsubscribe
Speaker 1: to Amazon, then go to Amazon dot com and accomplish that.
Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Go to Amazon dot com, log into
Speaker 4: your account, find your communication settings or whatever they call it,
Speaker 4: and start unsubscribing from those things. But you know, you're
Speaker 4: exactly right. Sadly, we are in a world today where
Speaker 4: it's very easy to spew something and as a result,
Speaker 4: and distribute it at mass to large numbers of people.
Speaker 4: So it's never been more important to have a healthy
Speaker 4: dose of skepticism to be aware of these kind of scams.
Speaker 4: So I'm glad you guys picked this story. And then yeah,
Speaker 4: take it breath, move cautiously. Understand that much of what
Speaker 4: you're getting, maybe most of it some people, it's some
Speaker 4: kind of scam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, there are people out there that think
Speaker 1: I'm ignoring them to the extent you sent me something
Speaker 1: legitimate and I haven't clicked on it. Sorry, you just
Speaker 1: caught up in the web of my uh distrust of
Speaker 1: everything out there.
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Speaker 1: learn a lot and if you listen to Dave how Ter,
Speaker 1: you'll stay out of trouble. Hey, real quick, Dave, before
Speaker 1: we get to the North Koreans doing remote work for
Speaker 1: US companies, frightenings that may be. It made me think
Speaker 1: about the most recent legislation in the budget, which is
Speaker 1: going to ban pornography without proper ID checks here in
Speaker 1: the state of Ohio, yep. And one of the things
Speaker 1: that immediately came to my mind, well, if you have
Speaker 1: a VPN, they don't even know you're in the state
Speaker 1: of Ohio, you could be literally appear as if you're
Speaker 1: in Norway or something or some other state that doesn't
Speaker 1: have that kind of law. But in the article they
Speaker 1: said they were going to address that through something called
Speaker 1: geo fencing. Can you explain that, because when I'm looking
Speaker 1: at North Koreans working at companies in the United States,
Speaker 1: it seems to me that the companies could figure out
Speaker 1: that these people are operating out of North Korea, unless,
Speaker 1: of course they're using a VPN. So what's the story
Speaker 1: on this? Can you help me out?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, So the idea of geo fencing is, you
Speaker 4: know who, however you connect to the Internet, whether it's
Speaker 4: your cellar carrier or you know a landline based carrier
Speaker 4: like Spectrum or somebody you know, ALTI fiber fill in
Speaker 4: the blank, they have a range of IP addresses and
Speaker 4: when you connect to their servers for your Internet access,
Speaker 4: you're going to get assigned an IP address. They can
Speaker 4: know roughly where you are. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: First, only for a cell phone, because you can, you know,
Speaker 1: you can use the pings and locate it. Even if
Speaker 1: you don't have your cell phone location device on, they
Speaker 1: can still figure out where you are where the phone is.
Speaker 4: But even your computer sitting on your desk at home
Speaker 4: for example. Right, let's say you use Ulta fiber, Well,
Speaker 4: it gets an IP address assigned from Aultifiber, they can
Speaker 4: know that you're coming from Aulti Fiber altifibers in the
Speaker 4: greater Cincinnati region. And then you know, Ulti Fiber has
Speaker 4: certain ranges assigned to certain areas, so you know, within
Speaker 4: a relatively small area, they can know where you come from.
Speaker 4: In fact, people, many people, I'm sure, and you're hosting
Speaker 4: audience of experienced thats at work where let's say they travel,
Speaker 4: and the company has some sort of essentially geo fencing
Speaker 4: set up so that if you're coming from an ip
Speaker 4: out of a certain range. This is not a perfect anology,
Speaker 4: but it's closed. You might get blocked and you may
Speaker 4: have to call and say, hey, I'm legitimately traveling, you know,
Speaker 4: turn me on. So to your point though, with a VPN, yes,
Speaker 4: if I you know, I use Proton VPN for my
Speaker 4: personal stuff, you know, I can find up my Proton
Speaker 4: VPN client and it can look like I'm coming out
Speaker 4: of let's say Finland this morning and Denmark later today.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's you know, if you know what you're doing,
Speaker 4: you can essentially hide behind a VPN and make you
Speaker 4: make it appear that you are somewhere you're not. And
Speaker 4: with these North Korean hackers. So what they're doing, and
Speaker 4: unfortunately there are family people in the United States who
Speaker 4: are being paid paid to facilitate this, and several have
Speaker 4: been arrested. So someone in the US essentially sets up
Speaker 4: a server or laptop farm, call it whatever you want.
Speaker 4: So the North Korean hacker basically sets up a bogus profile.
Speaker 4: This is really a form of spooping. Again, pretends to
Speaker 4: be a legitimate employee, gets hired by a US company,
Speaker 4: and despite the fact that they're essentially North Korean assets
Speaker 4: working in North Korea, they are remoting and they're connecting
Speaker 4: to a quote laptop or server here in the United States.
Speaker 1: Kind of like the way of VPN works, except this
Speaker 1: is a nefarious version of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's basically sort of a VPN type of operations
Speaker 4: designed to cover your tracks. So you get interviewed, you
Speaker 4: get hired, you appear to be a US based person
Speaker 4: working in these systems coming out of Like there was
Speaker 4: a recent story about six months ago where a guy
Speaker 4: in Nashville was arrested where he had dozens of computer
Speaker 4: setup and these remote North Korean I would call them hackers,
Speaker 4: you know. The story goes on to say, you know
Speaker 4: data has been stolen, sensitives, information has been stolen, Cryptocurrency
Speaker 4: has been stolen by these people. Again, they're pretending to
Speaker 4: be let's say, a legitimate programmer.
Speaker 8: Or network engineer or something.
Speaker 4: They get hired, they get now high level access to
Speaker 4: these company systems. So if you think about it, Brian,
Speaker 4: you know I can hack and hack and hack away
Speaker 4: and I might get in. I might get something if
Speaker 4: you hire me. The high level actions you're in, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's the ultimate insider threat. I have time to lurk.
Speaker 4: You think I'm working for you while I'm figuring out
Speaker 4: how to steal your stuff, and I appear to be
Speaker 4: doing it as a person onshore in the US because
Speaker 4: we have what I would call traders facilitating this type
Speaker 4: of activity for you know, foreign adversary. Sometimes obviously it's
Speaker 4: just financial, but you know when you have companies like
Speaker 4: North Korea and China doing this sort of thing, you
Speaker 4: know it's clearly beyond I just want to steal this
Speaker 4: company's money. They want trade secrets, they want military secrets,
Speaker 4: you know, or whatever else it is they're looking for,
Speaker 4: and this is a nefarious yet smart way to get
Speaker 4: at it.
Speaker 1: So recognizing This is obviously a real problem if they
Speaker 1: appear to be US based. How does a company deal
Speaker 1: with this threat? Can they do something to protect themselves?
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess a background check might be a method,
Speaker 1: but I'm not certain under the circumstances.
Speaker 4: Well, I think the first step is awareness that this
Speaker 4: is a thing, so that you're more in client who
Speaker 4: want to really thoroughly bet someone you know. Yeah, clearly
Speaker 4: remote work is a thing, right, and you may have
Speaker 4: someone who appears to be in the US. I think
Speaker 4: it's doing a deep dive background check, thoroughly betting people,
Speaker 4: you know, if someone but but it's going to get
Speaker 4: tricky if someone is really smart and really good at
Speaker 4: impersonation and really can stick to their story through the
Speaker 4: fake profiles they set up. You know, if you are
Speaker 4: truly connected to a server in Cincinnati, let's say, and
Speaker 4: you know going to work for a Cincinnati based company,
Speaker 4: it's going to be hard for you to know that
Speaker 4: if you don't cat you know, once they're in, until
Speaker 4: they trip some sort of alarm or something. This this
Speaker 4: speaks to something that most companies are not willing to
Speaker 4: spend money on, and that would be things like insider
Speaker 4: threat protection, data loss protection. You know, there are ways
Speaker 4: to set up trip wires in your company. If you
Speaker 4: have your permission set up right, you're not going to
Speaker 4: give people access to stuff they shouldn't have access to.
Speaker 4: You know, there's things called honeypots, where again, once someone
Speaker 4: starts nosing around too much, it starts to set off alarms.
Speaker 4: But the big thing is Brian making people aware that
Speaker 4: this is even a thing, so that ideally you would
Speaker 4: not hire these people in the first place. And all
Speaker 4: this stuff I just talked about, like data loss prevention,
Speaker 4: well it takes work. You got to you got to
Speaker 4: tag data and say this is sensitive. And if someone
Speaker 4: tries to copy this file or copy files from this solder,
Speaker 4: you know someone should look into that. So there are
Speaker 4: technological solutions that can help you discover this once it starts,
Speaker 4: but they're expensive, they take work, and you know, consequently,
Speaker 4: a lot of organizations, unless there's some sort of high
Speaker 4: level government requirement or something, won't spend money on that
Speaker 4: because they don't see the value in it, which I get.
Speaker 4: So this helps point out why there might be value
Speaker 4: in it. And again.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy crazy, and regardless of what it costs,
Speaker 1: that is a service that interest I can help a
Speaker 1: business accomplish.
Speaker 4: Yes, we can certainly help with any of the stuff
Speaker 4: we're talking about in here, or at least help you
Speaker 4: understand why you should care.
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Speaker 1: at it again, hoovering up all the data they can
Speaker 1: possibly hoover up. Google apparently can now read your WhatsApp
Speaker 1: messages by default. What's this all about, Dave? Your favorite company? This?
Speaker 4: This is it touches on several things that I think
Speaker 4: are often confusing to people, and I'm concerned about when
Speaker 4: it comes to privacy. We already talked about dark patterns
Speaker 4: in the first segment, but this this gets into the
Speaker 4: whole issue of opt in versus opt out. One of
Speaker 4: the reasons why I get frustrated with so many of
Speaker 4: these companies is they use dark patterns constantly to try
Speaker 4: to make you stay, and they opt you into things right,
Speaker 4: rather than you have to say, hey, I love to
Speaker 4: use this new feature you've rolled out. Sounds great, I'm
Speaker 4: going to turn it on. They will just roll things out.
Speaker 4: Apparently this Jem and I started rolling out on July
Speaker 4: seventh to people's Android phones, and you know it's turned
Speaker 4: on by default. Now apparently they send out an email,
Speaker 4: but you've got to open that email. You got to
Speaker 4: read it. You know you can even understand what it's
Speaker 4: telling you. Probably not in most cases. And again it's
Speaker 4: the frustrating thing for me is they're just doing this
Speaker 4: and then you have to opt out of it. Now,
Speaker 4: the good news is apparently you can opt out of it.
Speaker 4: And as you know, Brian, I don't have personal experience
Speaker 4: with this because I don't use an Android phone, nor
Speaker 4: do I use WhatsApp. But let me try to make
Speaker 4: a put a finer point on this. So you have
Speaker 4: an app from Meta right, what's app, which is theoretically
Speaker 4: a secure end to end messaging app, and one of
Speaker 4: the reasons you would use it is because it supports
Speaker 4: end encryption. You have the WhatsApp app, I have the
Speaker 4: WhatsApp app. You and I can send encrypted messages to
Speaker 4: one another and unless someone can unlock your phone or
Speaker 4: my phone, no one can read those messages because they're
Speaker 4: encrypted in the WhatsApp app and send to you right, right,
Speaker 4: So this whole Gemini thing, and I understand how if
Speaker 4: you want to assume good intentions, it could be beneficial.
Speaker 4: You know, the Gemini app hits it's their AI. Now
Speaker 4: you can talk to the phone. Hey, I want to
Speaker 4: send to what's app message to Brian Thomas, and here's
Speaker 4: what I want to say. And ideally it would open
Speaker 4: the WhatsApp app, plug that in and send it on
Speaker 4: my behalf without meaning you need to open the app
Speaker 4: and type it in manually. Right, that's the theory. The
Speaker 4: problem though with that is I want to send a
Speaker 4: secure message to you. You know, even the way the
Speaker 4: end encryption works, it should not be possible even for
Speaker 4: Meta to read those messages exactly. Okay, But now that
Speaker 4: I am talking to the Gemini app on my phone
Speaker 4: and it's composing this message on my behalf, Google potentially
Speaker 4: has access to that message. Well, of course the content
Speaker 4: is accessible with Gemini before it's encrypted by WhatsApp. Does
Speaker 4: that make sense?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are reading your message that is to be
Speaker 1: encrypted by WhatsApp, but you're reading the out loud message
Speaker 1: to the Google related software, which is then converting it
Speaker 1: into a third party app, which in this particular case
Speaker 1: is WhatsApp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so this isn't just a WhatsApp thing. It would
Speaker 4: be anything where you would be exchanging You could be
Speaker 4: using their AI product to do something. It would have
Speaker 4: access to that information before it even enters into the
Speaker 4: other applications. So you were potentially exposing information you wouldn't
Speaker 4: want Google to have to them by using this app,
Speaker 4: and they've essentially opted you into it from everything I've read. Now, again,
Speaker 4: I don't use any I don't use anything for meta
Speaker 4: if I can help, but I don't use anything from Google.
Speaker 4: I like it, So this isn't a problem for me
Speaker 4: and I have not experienced in firsthand. But if you're
Speaker 4: an Android user, this stuff is rolling out and you
Speaker 4: need to understand that by using it, you are potentially
Speaker 4: exposing information that you might not understand as beings. So
Speaker 4: my advice, and apparently you still can go in and
Speaker 4: turn this off. I would argue dark patterns are at
Speaker 4: work because I read all the you know how to
Speaker 4: do it and solve the screenshots. Apparently there's multiple places
Speaker 4: you got to go. You know, you could just disable
Speaker 4: to or delete the Gemini app. That would be my
Speaker 4: recommendation to you. However, you know, you've got to decide
Speaker 4: for yourself or or better yet, get off their platform
Speaker 4: and find a more privacy friendly option like Apple. I'm
Speaker 4: not saying Apple doesn't have its problems, Brian, but in general,
Speaker 4: the whole business model is different and they are less
Speaker 4: incentivized to want to capture your data and do these
Speaker 4: sorts of things. So again, I want to be clear
Speaker 4: and every day that I'm not an Apple fanboy. I'm
Speaker 4: not telling you they're you know, spotless and without blame, right,
Speaker 4: just telling you that in general they are more privacy
Speaker 4: friendly than most of their competition. So I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to use an Android phone for the
Speaker 4: sort of reasons we just described here.
Speaker 1: That's a consistent message from you. That's one thing we
Speaker 1: can always count on you consistently rejecting the idea of
Speaker 1: using Android and Google Meta.
Speaker 4: And you know, Brian, I had the Android phone for
Speaker 4: a long time, many years ago, and finally, because of
Speaker 4: the sorts of things we're always talking about, I finally
Speaker 4: said enough is enough, you know, and there are more
Speaker 4: privacy and friendly options out there than Apple. However, they
Speaker 4: usually are very unfriendly to consumers. You know, then more
Speaker 4: difficult to use, YadA, YadA, YadA. And you know, at
Speaker 4: some point I may find myself switching over to that,
Speaker 4: but for now, apples for me, strikes a good balance
Speaker 4: of usability, you know, ease of access versus privacy. So
Speaker 4: I am I'm at but yeah, it's you're using an
Speaker 4: Android phone. I encourage you to look into this and
Speaker 4: strongly considered disabling this Gemini feature or removing it entirely
Speaker 4: because you're potential going to exposed things you would not
Speaker 4: want to expose.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, appreciate the sound advice as always, Tech Friday's
Speaker 1: Dave Hatter interest id dot com where you find Dave
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Speaker 1: about the book I Am Innocent, which is described as
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Speaker 1: it's a really interesting analysis of how you go about, well,
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Speaker 1: relative to crimes. He'll be in studio at eight oho
Speaker 1: five to talk about that. In the meantime, before I
Speaker 1: moved go on to something else and not quite sure
Speaker 1: which direction I'm gonna go. I'm gonna let Bobby decide that. Bobby,
Speaker 1: thanks for calling this morning, and Happy Friday to you.
Speaker 9: Happy Friday, my brother faiths flag family and holiday greeting
Speaker 9: cards there you are. Well, one thing I need to
Speaker 9: ask you about is the what's this stuff about the porn?
Speaker 9: What are they trying to regulate it?
Speaker 7: What are they doing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the budget bill here in the state of Ohio,
Speaker 1: they have incorporated a new it's a child protection measure.
Speaker 1: So in order to load or go to a pornography website,
Speaker 1: I think the one that was sided was like porn
Speaker 1: Hub or something. Just an illustration. They are apparently hundreds
Speaker 1: and hundreds of them out there. But if the content
Speaker 1: that is on the site is that the company provides
Speaker 1: it and it has a financial motivation providing this content.
Speaker 1: In other words, they make money off providing pornography. Then
Speaker 1: you must provide age verification in the form of submitting
Speaker 1: your driver's license or other government issued identification to prove
Speaker 1: that you're over the eight of eighteen. And they say
Speaker 1: that that you can't work and work around at using
Speaker 1: a VPN, although I'm still not convinced that it will
Speaker 1: work because the VPN is going to make you look
Speaker 1: like you're someplace else, not in the state of Ohio.
Speaker 1: But if you're just logging in on your cell phone,
Speaker 1: you're logging in your computer and you go to a
Speaker 1: porn site, that site is now going to be obligated
Speaker 1: to ask you for age verification. Now, what has been
Speaker 1: the reaction in other states? This is what we're like
Speaker 1: the twentieth state to pass the law along these lines
Speaker 1: other states, the sites just decide they're not going to
Speaker 1: do business in the state, so rather than collect the data,
Speaker 1: then they just say, well, we just want to offer
Speaker 1: our service in now Ohio. I suppose law kicks in
Speaker 1: I believe at the end of September, So no porns
Speaker 1: for you in Ohio, unless you're willing to give your
Speaker 1: information to a third party vendor, which oh yeah.
Speaker 9: Hey, I got another question about it. Well, young people
Speaker 9: now are really in the these podcasts. Why don't we
Speaker 9: have a porn cast with just audio? And that'd be
Speaker 9: a fine thing for the Drive at five.
Speaker 1: You know, actually that probably would be a workaround.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 9: If there's words that are said, you know, you can
Speaker 9: always beep them out, and you know, preload everything up
Speaker 9: and have the Drive at five first thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: And nothing but porn cast. Now, you got it. Your
Speaker 1: next business venture there, Bobby, the verbal porn site.
Speaker 9: That's it. I mean, you know you get pasted all
Speaker 9: the moaning and groan and there's a few words here
Speaker 9: and there, just beep them out.
Speaker 1: Okay. Joe Strekker who does podcast as a sideline, So
Speaker 1: if you need a podcast, I got to Jude Trekker.
Speaker 1: He said that would be an interesting podcast to edit.
Speaker 9: You wouldn't have to hire anybody. You could go ahead
Speaker 9: with all past things on, you know, every movie known
Speaker 9: the man. Just take the audio here and there for
Speaker 9: Matt thirty minutes.
Speaker 7: Of porn cast.
Speaker 1: I suppose you could, Bobby there you go.
Speaker 8: Brother.
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound very compelling to me, Bobby, But you know, hey,
Speaker 1: different strokes for just different folks. And I don't know
Speaker 1: there's a flag for anybody out there that would, uh
Speaker 1: well consume that type of content. Bobby, have a great weekend, man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it is Friday, it though, don't mind you
Speaker 1: I drive down that type of cul de sac on
Speaker 1: a Friday. Anyway, I'm still strugging. This whole Epstein thing
Speaker 1: has just got me baffled, befuddled, bewildered. So I can
Speaker 1: come over with the more alliterative words to use and
Speaker 1: tack onto that help me out. But okay, everybody's been
Speaker 1: clamoring for information about Epstein for a long time. Okay,
Speaker 1: the whole idea that he killed himself, Yeah, Epstein, it
Speaker 1: was a joke almost people just like nobody believed that.
Speaker 1: And so that was a conspiracy theory. It was fueled online.
Speaker 1: And I know, and I never had any idea one
Speaker 1: way or another. It didn't really care ultimately, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess part of me was glad he's dead. Say
Speaker 1: the taxpayers some trial money. But so you had that,
Speaker 1: you have these all these celebrities, well known folks. There
Speaker 1: are millions of photographs out there with all these famous
Speaker 1: people with Epstein. We've got all kinds a flight record
Speaker 1: showing that Epstein flew people around in his private jet,
Speaker 1: most notably to the Lolita Island, where I guess women
Speaker 1: were molested and women under age were molested. Criminal activity.
Speaker 1: Lots of discussion about that over the many years that
Speaker 1: this has been the subject matter. Of course, he was
Speaker 1: convicted of molesting children and was a known pedophile from
Speaker 1: back in the late two thousands, and there's a picture
Speaker 1: of him with Donald Trump and a lot of people
Speaker 1: suggesting he was friends with Donald Trump. And now the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal publishing an article about this letter or
Speaker 1: this this birthday card that Donald Trump allegedly created back
Speaker 1: in two thousand and three with a sketch of a
Speaker 1: nude woman in some random comment that they attributed to Trump.
Speaker 1: Trump came out yesterday said he's going to sue the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal because he told him it was not him,
Speaker 1: and he didn't write that. It isn't something he would say,
Speaker 1: and he's never drawn pictures of naked women before, but
Speaker 1: there it is. Some are saying that the Democrats created
Speaker 1: that whole cloth, so I don't know, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump now saying that he is planning on having
Speaker 1: the grand jury testimony released. He's instructed that. So rewind
Speaker 1: a while back. Trump's in favor of releasing the Epstein
Speaker 1: documents he said he had on the campaign trail. Now
Speaker 1: the Department of Justice comes out and says, there's nothing
Speaker 1: to release. There is no list. The only information in
Speaker 1: there is stuff that we can't have anyway because it
Speaker 1: constitutes childborn. We don't want to release victims' names because
Speaker 1: it might, you know, impact their privacy. Maybe there's ongoing
Speaker 1: investigations that will be a legitimate reason to withhold the documents.
Speaker 1: But no one said that. But considering the length of
Speaker 1: time we've been talking about this, now you've got the
Speaker 1: Trump administration sort of doing a one eighty away from
Speaker 1: releasing the information, at least up until yesterday when he
Speaker 1: talked about releasing the grand jury testimony. But really hard
Speaker 1: rejection of those out there clamoring to get these documents.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he was angry about it, but what
Speaker 1: of the Biden administration? And it was interesting exchange yesterday
Speaker 1: between Democrat Representative Jamie Raskin and Joe Scarborough. Of all
Speaker 1: people leftist, he is MSNBC's Mourning Joe Joe Scarborough. Talking
Speaker 1: about this situation, Scarborough asked if the saga involving Epstein
Speaker 1: was a crisis the Biden administration did not release records
Speaker 1: when it was in power, Epstein was and here here's
Speaker 1: what Raskin had to say that leads into a really
Speaker 1: good sort of cross examination by Joe Scarborough. He said
Speaker 1: Epstein was able to use all his powerful connections, including
Speaker 1: who was then his best friend, Donald Trump. Now you
Speaker 1: know that's a lie. Donald Trump knew the guy and did,
Speaker 1: I guess have some interactions with Epstein, but he cut
Speaker 1: that off after a failed real estate transaction. He didn't
Speaker 1: hang out with the guy or didn't do anything with him.
Speaker 1: And that was prior to Epstein being convicted for molesting children.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of well documented. So kind of ignore
Speaker 1: the overstatement from Raskin along those lines. And look, he
Speaker 1: went on, why is this important? Because the sexual abuse
Speaker 1: of young people and children is a crisis throughout our society.
Speaker 1: There is, of course, the church scandal or many church scandals.
Speaker 1: There's what happened in Michigan State. There's what happened to
Speaker 1: Ohio state. That's when Scarborough interjected, But Congressman, you could
Speaker 1: have gotten that from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: when Democrats controlled the Department of Justice, it was a crisis.
Speaker 1: Then it's a crisis. Now, why didn't Democrats call for
Speaker 1: it from twenty one to twenty five? Legitimate question, because
Speaker 1: they are right now the Democrats driving the call to
Speaker 1: have these documents released. It's almost as if this is
Speaker 1: another one of those scenarios where if Trump wants something,
Speaker 1: they're gonna say no, you can't have it. In this
Speaker 1: particular case, Trump is now saying no, you can't have it.
Speaker 1: So the Democrats natural knee jerk reaction is to jump
Speaker 1: up and say no, we want it. Now we're asking
Speaker 1: has this weird reply? Obviously backed in a corner, and
Speaker 1: he said, so, I mean, you'd if you go back
Speaker 1: and look specifically a particular prosecutorial decisions and what was
Speaker 1: taking place in terms of other cases. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: We could try to reconstruct that record. But the point
Speaker 1: is is that Donald Trump is the one who has
Speaker 1: led the crusade to say that Epstein, who was his
Speaker 1: very close friend, over statement and there's all kinds of
Speaker 1: pictures of them, and so that Epstein was at the
Speaker 1: center of this broad conspiracy. He is now in a
Speaker 1: position to do exactly what he demand demanded, which is
Speaker 1: to release all the files. And so why is that
Speaker 1: not happening? That's the question I can't answer for Merk
Speaker 1: Garland or anybody else in the Department of Justice, but
Speaker 1: I will tell you that there is a bipartisan consensus
Speaker 1: in the Judiciary Committee right now that all these records
Speaker 1: need to be released. So he really just danced around
Speaker 1: Scarborough's backing him in a corner. Why didn't the Biden
Speaker 1: administration release him? And that's a legitimate question. This is
Speaker 1: why it's so be fuddling to me. Everybody's position has
Speaker 1: gone the polar opposite of what he used to be,
Speaker 1: which seems like five minutes ago. If you can make
Speaker 1: heads or tails out of it, please feel free to
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Speaker 1: Friday looking forward to having Don Tynrin Toltzman joined the
Speaker 1: program talk about the book I Am Innocent that will
Speaker 1: take place in the next segment. He's the editor of
Speaker 1: the book, so it could be a fascinating account by
Speaker 1: Bruno Richard Hoptman, the guy who was convicted of killing
Speaker 1: Charles Lindberg Junior. Anyway, related to nothing under Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: been having an ongoing battle with the Fed. When he's
Speaker 1: got the interest rates low for the purpose of home buyers,
Speaker 1: Obviously the interest rates are significantly higher than they have been,
Speaker 1: and that's a real problem. I still refin luck back
Speaker 1: on when we first bought our house, when interest rates
Speaker 1: were north of eight percent. We had a seven to
Speaker 1: twenty three balloon on our first house and it was
Speaker 1: financed at eight and an eighth and we had a
Speaker 1: provision in our closing where the seller paid three points.
Speaker 1: So obviously a different landscape, but we were able to
Speaker 1: manage through that. But it's been a real problem because
Speaker 1: the price of homes has gone through the roof, and
Speaker 1: this is where the problem lies. If you get the
Speaker 1: interest rate lowered, it's not going to impact the price
Speaker 1: of the house. In fact, there's going to be more
Speaker 1: demand out there since more people would be able to
Speaker 1: afford a mortgage if the interest rates were lower. I
Speaker 1: saw this article the other in the in the Journal.
Speaker 1: Median age of a first time home buyer is now
Speaker 1: thirty eight years old. Medium price for an existing single
Speaker 1: family home last year four hundred and twelve five hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: That significantly increased rising interest rates made it a bad situation,
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Speaker 1: twenty five seventy average monthly premium up to thirty two
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Speaker 1: income required to qualify for a mortgage on the medium
Speaker 1: house risen more than sixty percent since twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: which prices out more than half of the potential first
Speaker 1: time home buyers, which is why the average home buyer
Speaker 1: is now thirty eight years old. Used to be a
Speaker 1: lot younger than that. They say government policies aren't helping either.
Speaker 1: Trump's tariff's going to add significantly to the cost of
Speaker 1: building because lumber and aluminum and other products are going
Speaker 1: to building. Homes are going up. There's a shortage of workers.
Speaker 1: We're apparently short two hundred and fifty thousand construction workers.
Speaker 1: And that's a career opportunity for folks out there. It
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Speaker 1: going to get a job, apparently. But the landscape isn't
Speaker 1: going to change, even if Trump got his way and
Speaker 1: had the interest rates lower. There's a shortage of houses
Speaker 1: out there. And the other thing that's changed, too is
Speaker 1: what builders actually build. And this is something that I've
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Speaker 1: massive compared to the old homes, and as the article
Speaker 1: points out, the median size of a new home has
Speaker 1: increased from about fifteen hundred square feet back in the
Speaker 1: nineteen sixties to now more than twenty two hundred square feet,
Speaker 1: and that was in the early twenty twenties. You can't
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Speaker 1: in larger homes. The demand is in larger homes, and
Speaker 1: if you've got a limited number of construction workers, you're
Speaker 1: going to go where the profit is, and the profit
Speaker 1: apparently is in larger homes. So I mean, I just
Speaker 1: bring this up because there ain't no easy solution or
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Speaker 1: of housing, and I'm not quite sure if owning a
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Speaker 1: Hey seven thirty Here fifty five RSD talk station moving
Speaker 1: away from things political. Welcome back to the fifty five
Speaker 1: PERC Morning Show. Hair Don Heinrich Toltzman to talk about
Speaker 1: this book that he actually was the editor of. I
Speaker 1: Am Innocent Statement from the Death Cell the Gate and
Speaker 1: z Her Holtzman. They'll come in.
Speaker 11: Good Morgan, Good Morgan, Thank you, Brian. I In the
Speaker 11: past I've come on and talked about a lot of
Speaker 11: different topics relating to the German heritage and one that
Speaker 11: I became interested in was the trial of Bruno Richard Hauptmann.
Speaker 11: And I had found by reading through the German American
Speaker 11: papers that many, especially German Americans, felt that he did
Speaker 11: not get a fair trial, that he had been framed
Speaker 11: and railroaded during the trial for the Lindbergh kidnapping case.
Speaker 11: And when I was in Germany and I happened to
Speaker 11: visit Hautmann's home town, comments in Saxony, and I found
Speaker 11: that part of his autobiography had been published in German,
Speaker 11: but it was part of a larger manuscript that he
Speaker 11: had written. And when I came back to the US,
Speaker 11: I founded at the New Jersey State Police Museum. Parts
Speaker 11: were missing, the part that had published in Germany. So
Speaker 11: I translated them into English and put together the full manuscript,
Speaker 11: and I think it sheds light of the case. And
Speaker 11: I added a lot of notes to it based on
Speaker 11: my research, which I think clearly showed that he did
Speaker 11: not get a fair trial. It was really an absolute farce.
Speaker 1: And I should say too that.
Speaker 11: The kidnapping that took place in nineteen thirty two, it
Speaker 11: made international news.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was the first man to cross the Atlantic in
Speaker 1: an airplane. I mean he was a global hero.
Speaker 11: Today we take it for granted we fly back and
Speaker 11: forth to Europe, but in nineteen twenty seven he flew
Speaker 11: the first NonStop transatlantic flight and he was like John Glenn,
Speaker 11: who you know, the man in the Moon. I mean,
Speaker 11: he was famous beyond it was. I mean, we're just incredible.
Speaker 11: So so the kidnap he took place in nineteen thirty two,
Speaker 11: and we'll go into some of the details. But after
Speaker 11: Halpmant was arrested, the police beat him to a pulp
Speaker 11: tried to get a confession from but they failed. He
Speaker 11: maintained his innocence. The police there too, from their perspective,
Speaker 11: they were under tremendous pressure. Been two and a half
Speaker 11: years after the kidnapping, they had not found anybody, and
Speaker 11: they offered money to Haupman if he would confess. They
Speaker 11: offered him leniency, but he maintained his innocent So I
Speaker 11: edited the autobiography and it gives him a posthumous opportunity
Speaker 11: to tell to tell his story. And you know why
Speaker 11: is it important? Well, it was called the crime of
Speaker 11: the century, and it was you know, even then already
Speaker 11: people questioned that the evidence was manufactured witnesses were bribed.
Speaker 7: And so on.
Speaker 11: And you know a problem for the haupman at the
Speaker 11: time anti German sentiment was right after World War One,
Speaker 11: anti German feeling. Hitler just came to power.
Speaker 4: So here he was a.
Speaker 11: German immigrant and that made it difficult for him. I
Speaker 11: was an underlying cause against him, that was against him,
Speaker 11: and also his lawyers totally incompetent. They met for him
Speaker 11: very actually very few times, and they were incompetent. Then
Speaker 11: you know, I wouldn't mention the witnesses, the witnesses who
Speaker 11: testified him against him. One of the lead one was
Speaker 11: John Condon, and in a police lineup and then in
Speaker 11: a meeting with Helpman for an hour, he denied that
Speaker 11: Haman was the man he had spoken with when ransom
Speaker 11: money was transferred.
Speaker 1: And I was going to ask you specifically about doctor
Speaker 1: John Condon described as a key witness as the person
Speaker 1: who acted as a mediator between Lindberg, who was the
Speaker 1: alleged between Lindberg and the kidnappers. So Charles Lindberg still around,
Speaker 1: He wants his son back. The kidnappers obviously, I guess
Speaker 1: want their money there there there their their ransom demand.
Speaker 1: How did this condom guy end up being the liaison
Speaker 1: between the kidnappers and the Lindberg family.
Speaker 11: He's really a strange person. He uh in the New
Speaker 11: York area. He read about it. He contacted Lindbergh and said,
Speaker 11: could I put a note in the paper asking the
Speaker 11: kidnapper or kidnappers to contact me and I will act
Speaker 11: as a mediator. And so he came out of nowhere.
Speaker 11: Was he himself involved in the kidnapping, that is a question,
Speaker 11: But he popped up into the case totally an unknown factor.
Speaker 11: And then he met on two occasions with a person
Speaker 11: to transmit ransom money to him, and he spoke with
Speaker 11: it with that person, and later on then he met
Speaker 11: with Hautmann and jail, but he denied that that was
Speaker 11: the person he had spoken with. But then on the
Speaker 11: during the trial he said he was a person.
Speaker 1: H change your heart there, No, that's not the guy. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is the guy. As a red flag harr Holtzman,
Speaker 1: let's pause. We'll bring you back to talk about some
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Speaker 1: It's seven forty fifty five KRCD talk station Brot Thomas
Speaker 1: with Don Henry Toltzman with a really fascinating story. He's
Speaker 1: the editor of the book we're talking about I Am Innocent,
Speaker 1: a statement from the death cell. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: alleged killer of Charles Lindbergh Junior, the son of the
Speaker 1: great Charles Lindberg, first person to fly across the Atlantic,
Speaker 1: a real, genuine, true world global hero in a picture
Speaker 1: on the front of all the newspapers around the globe
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. They're just a very
Speaker 1: famous man. He was so of course, his son being
Speaker 1: kidnapped and ultimately murdered drew the attention of the American people.
Speaker 1: And this guy, the person who was convicted, Bruno Richard
Speaker 1: Houtman wrote a book in German and that's what Harr
Speaker 1: Toltzman has uh has translated into English, so it's his words.
Speaker 1: But also the commentaries were learning from Don Toltzman about
Speaker 1: why this was probably a total farce this trial. And
Speaker 1: as I read your notes, Don Man, this guy was
Speaker 1: he was railroaded.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, he was completely railroaded. And I said also earlier
Speaker 11: he had been severely beaten, almost beaten to death. And yeah,
Speaker 11: attempted to be bribed, and the witnesses were, uh, condom
Speaker 11: was completely the mainness was unreliable. Other witnesses. One said
Speaker 11: he had seen Houtman near the Lindbergh home, but he
Speaker 11: was partially blind in one eye.
Speaker 1: Reasonable doubt.
Speaker 11: Another witness was paid for by his testimony by the police.
Speaker 11: And another witness said they had seen him near the
Speaker 11: Lindbergh home in a green car, but Helpman had a
Speaker 11: blue car. Now, there were other witnesses that said Haman
Speaker 11: testified that he had picked up his wife as per usual,
Speaker 11: from a bakery in New York. There were several testified
Speaker 11: he was there. They were completely blown away and ignored.
Speaker 11: And so the whole thing about the witnesses is absurd
Speaker 11: and I think maybe you as a lawyer could understand
Speaker 11: that readily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 11: The ransom notes another thing they said that so called
Speaker 11: experts said that he had written them. Well, the police
Speaker 11: told him to exactly copy the ransom notes. He was
Speaker 11: supposed to exactly meet him a whole day, night and
Speaker 11: day to copy them. Looked exactly like the ransom notes.
Speaker 11: Then they had the so called efforts, say, look at
Speaker 11: what he wrote the same as the ransom notes, but.
Speaker 1: That he did what he was instructed to do, which
Speaker 1: was mimic the handwriting in the ransom notes rather than
Speaker 1: penned in his own hand. Yes, oh that's insane. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, any effective lawyer would have blown these witnesses
Speaker 1: away on cross examination. You could create reasonable doubts so easily.
Speaker 1: What the hell was this? What was the deal with
Speaker 1: Edward J.
Speaker 11: Riley his attorney, Well, the Riley was really incompetent. He
Speaker 11: spent a total of about forty minutes, only forty minutes.
Speaker 11: Most of the meetings with Hautman last at five minutes.
Speaker 11: He was often intoxicated, he was a big blow hard,
Speaker 11: and it was completely incompetent. So his lawyers were also,
Speaker 11: you know, there was an assistant lawner, but they were
Speaker 11: really incompetent. And then there was other evidence. One thing
Speaker 11: that they talked about was the wooden ladder that was used. Yeah, well,
Speaker 11: when they first searched Houtman's garage, they couldn't find They
Speaker 11: didn't find anything, but then later they found a board
Speaker 11: that they said matched the wood used on the ladder.
Speaker 11: Well it obviously looks to have been planted there by
Speaker 11: the police. And when you looked at the ladder, it
Speaker 11: did not even reach the window of the Lindbergh home.
Speaker 11: And also it wouldn't have held somebody of haut Month's weight.
Speaker 11: I think there was a test done on and one
Speaker 11: of the lower rungs of the ladder broke. And also
Speaker 11: it was about two feet below the window the second
Speaker 11: floor of the Lindbergh home. And so how somebody could
Speaker 11: have crawled out of the window carrying a like a
Speaker 11: thirty pound infant and get down there was incredibly well,
Speaker 11: you know. And also Lindberg's her Heutman's fingerprints were found nowhere,
Speaker 11: and so the whole case really looks like a farce.
Speaker 11: And also I alluded to a recent research by Lisa Pearlman,
Speaker 11: who has a book called the Lindberg Kidnapping Suspect Number One,
Speaker 11: The Man who Got Away, and she convincingly argues that
Speaker 11: it was Charles Lindberg who masterminded the whole kidnapping what
Speaker 11: that he was behind it.
Speaker 1: Base of all, I don't go down too too far
Speaker 1: down that Lisa Pearlman rabbit hole. But based upon what
Speaker 1: why would Lindbergh want to have his own son kidnapped?
Speaker 11: The Sun had Ricketts, which a disease reals were results
Speaker 11: in bowed legs. He was considered had mentally deficient. Lindbergh
Speaker 11: believed in eugenics and genetic superiority and purity.
Speaker 1: And he was an anti semi too. He was an
Speaker 1: anti semi too, if I recall my history correctly, it.
Speaker 11: Was an anti semi. He went to Nazi Germany and
Speaker 11: he received an award from the Nazi regime. He was
Speaker 11: criticized for it, but he refused to return the reward,
Speaker 11: Whereas I should say from my research, other German Americans
Speaker 11: would not accept any medal or award from Nazi Germany. Now,
Speaker 11: when they did the autopsy of the of the infant,
Speaker 11: they found that parts of it were organ had been
Speaker 11: removed surgically. And in this recent publication I mentioned, it
Speaker 11: was found that Lindbergh was in touch with a surgeon
Speaker 11: and it thought that.
Speaker 1: The baby was.
Speaker 11: Operated on to investigate what was the cause of his
Speaker 11: of the rickets and the disease, and this related to
Speaker 11: Lindbergh's in the same belief in eugenics. He couldn't understand
Speaker 11: that he fathered a physically diseased child.
Speaker 1: So it's in case itself.
Speaker 11: I mean, the trial was an absolute farce. It wasn't
Speaker 11: he was and he he was browbeaten too during Houtmann,
Speaker 11: during the trial wasn't given a chance to tell his story.
Speaker 11: So that's why I edited his autobiography, which he wrote
Speaker 11: in a jail cell, and to give him a chance
Speaker 11: to listen to what he had to say, because he
Speaker 11: didn't get a chance. He was mocked and browbeaten and
Speaker 11: physically beaten.
Speaker 1: Well. So I got a couple of questions though, considering
Speaker 1: all of this damning evidence in so far as the
Speaker 1: prosecution and the in the in the prosecutorial conduct from
Speaker 1: law enforcement all the way through trial. First off, real
Speaker 1: quick here, harr Holman, uh Toltsman, how did they finger
Speaker 1: Houtman as the guy the suspect? I mean, what brought
Speaker 1: him into the field division of law enforcement in the
Speaker 1: first place? Given all of this, you know, exculpatory evidence
Speaker 1: that's floating around the.
Speaker 11: Reason that he was arrested, was that he uh the
Speaker 11: the ransom money that had been given to the person
Speaker 11: that Condon met at a cemetery. At the serial numbers
Speaker 11: haven't copied. Well, a couple of years later than Haupman
Speaker 11: had gone to a gas station and he had paid
Speaker 11: for a gasoline with one of the bank and it
Speaker 11: was a what was called a silver certificate, and they
Speaker 11: were being turned in at that time, and so the
Speaker 11: serial numbers were copied and when the attendant there noticed that,
Speaker 11: and he contacted the police about it, and they he
Speaker 11: had copied on the license number on Haupman's car, and
Speaker 11: so they traced it to him, and that's the way
Speaker 11: he identified it.
Speaker 1: But given its years years later though that it's a
Speaker 1: possibility that the actual ransom recipient had passed those notes
Speaker 1: around and he just ended up with one in his pocket.
Speaker 12: Well, that's true.
Speaker 11: And the ransom money also was turned in at various
Speaker 11: banks around the country, even in the Midwest. Three thousand
Speaker 11: dollars were turned in at a bank in New York
Speaker 11: City and none of these notes had any connection to
Speaker 11: hout Mon.
Speaker 1: He wasn't there.
Speaker 11: He said that it had been given to him to
Speaker 11: a business associate who had returned to Germany where he died,
Speaker 11: and so his name happened to be fish and the
Speaker 11: police mocked that story that that his fround had given
Speaker 11: him when.
Speaker 4: They called it a fishy story.
Speaker 1: So well, all the way around he was he was railroad. Yeah, clearly,
Speaker 1: clearly I Heardtols were out of time. It's fascinating what
Speaker 1: you've done here. And of course, obviously the extent of
Speaker 1: the wrongdoing against the defendant, who ultimately paid the ultimate price.
Speaker 1: They executed him, and apparently while he was waiting execution,
Speaker 1: they offered him lean seeing he turned it down because
Speaker 1: I'm not going to confess to a crime I didn't do.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like getting nail on his on the
Speaker 1: head here, don Heinrich Toltzman. I appreciate you doing the
Speaker 1: translating and doing the commentary on the book, and I
Speaker 1: know my listeners is gonna want to get it, which
Speaker 1: they can do. Got a fifty five kres dot com
Speaker 1: where Joe's got a link to the book on the page.
Speaker 1: Don It's always great talking with you, my friend. Keep
Speaker 1: up the great work. I'll look forward to having you
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Speaker 1: Grindle speaking of law enforcement. Lead detective with the Springdale
Speaker 1: Police Department for thirty fi five years twenty one years
Speaker 1: doing investigations before retiring in twenty thirteen. He's written a book,
Speaker 1: Homicide Investigation. The interview. We'll talk with him after the news.
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Speaker 1: been a very happy Friday to you. Good to have
Speaker 1: in studio detective retired detective Jim Grindle, who's written a
Speaker 1: book Homicide Investigation. In the interview, Jim, good to have
Speaker 1: you in studio and be able to see you face
Speaker 1: to face and talk with you. And let me start
Speaker 1: by thanking you for your storied career in law enforcement.
Speaker 7: Well, I definitely appreciate that. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Happy to do it man, and I, as I told
Speaker 1: you before when the mix came on, it's been my
Speaker 1: experience in my coming up on sixty years that if
Speaker 1: you're sitting across the table with a retired police officer
Speaker 1: or an active police officer enjoying a beer, they're the
Speaker 1: best people to talk with because they have the most
Speaker 1: outlangious and crazy stories, real things that happened that never
Speaker 1: happened anybody else because of, you know, being involved with
Speaker 1: the criminal element. It's just it's crazy what you have
Speaker 1: to deal with over the years, and we have a
Speaker 1: lot of fun with the stories, for sure. Oh I
Speaker 1: bet now you are not really retired right now, as
Speaker 1: I understand.
Speaker 13: No.
Speaker 7: Actually, my career started back in nineteen seventy nine. Actively
Speaker 7: retired in twenty thirteen following twenty one years in investigations.
Speaker 7: The spread Down Police Department has a program which allows
Speaker 7: officers to come back and work in an auxiliary position.
Speaker 7: We don't do any active enforcement, but we do a
Speaker 7: lot of the paper pushing and things like that.
Speaker 1: Well, fair enough, but you've got to assault it. By
Speaker 1: fourteen year old the other day, Well he was autistic,
Speaker 1: and is this in the line of duty? This happened?
Speaker 7: This was an off duty detail, okay, and he was
Speaker 7: a regular at the church that we go to and
Speaker 7: he was just having an episode.
Speaker 1: I understand, Look, you were an out serving award or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 7: Was no, no, and it wasn't intentional on his part.
Speaker 7: I don't believe either.
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's good. Well, let's pivot over to
Speaker 1: the homicide investigation. The interview. Explain to my listeners what
Speaker 1: this book consists of.
Speaker 7: Jim, Well, the book starts, well, basically, the reason for
Speaker 7: the book was is during the interview, the individual portrayed
Speaker 7: a lot of body language that was beyond just your
Speaker 7: normal interviews. Pretty much displayed everything that you can actually
Speaker 7: display during an interview. And I always thought, man, i'd
Speaker 7: be great for a book.
Speaker 1: So body language indicating a guilt.
Speaker 7: Right, Well, it's basically a nonverbal communication, you know, through
Speaker 7: body posturing, facial expressions, movements, and things of that nature.
Speaker 7: And you know that it's a lot about signs of
Speaker 7: deception or that they're not being truthful. And during the interview, So.
Speaker 1: I imagine a young detective or someone in law enforcement
Speaker 1: who's going to be interviewing suspects could learn a lot
Speaker 1: from this.
Speaker 7: Oh, I would hope.
Speaker 1: So asks maybe one of the points you of your
Speaker 1: putting the book together.
Speaker 7: Well, the book's got a lot of clips in there
Speaker 7: showing when I talk about the different kind of language
Speaker 7: that he's portraying. It's there in the book, and there's
Speaker 7: also a two our interview and it's entirety that could
Speaker 7: be watched as well.
Speaker 1: All Right, how how many years experience did you have
Speaker 1: at the time you interviewed this suspect.
Speaker 7: Maybe as a police officer about thirteen years, fourteen years,
Speaker 7: Because as I understand it, and here you can be
Speaker 7: correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, there's a real
Speaker 7: skill in an art form to getting information out of witnesses.
Speaker 7: I would agree with that. Basically, you pretty much got
Speaker 7: to sit down as if we know each other, and
Speaker 7: once get a little trust in you, they're more apt
Speaker 7: to talk to you and tell you things that you
Speaker 7: need to know.
Speaker 1: All right, So being a bad cops not a good
Speaker 1: idea under those circumstances.
Speaker 7: It works for the good cops.
Speaker 1: It works for the good cops. No, But is this
Speaker 1: a learned skill, Like do you sit in a class,
Speaker 1: a canet training class or some other follow up, you know,
Speaker 1: continuing police education class to learn what you need to
Speaker 1: do and how you need to conduct yourself the best
Speaker 1: interview witnesses and get information out of them.
Speaker 7: There are classes. I tell a lot of people that
Speaker 7: are in this kind of you know job to watch
Speaker 7: everybody's interviews and learn what you like about their approach,
Speaker 7: what works for them, and then kind of develop that
Speaker 7: into your own. The big thing with interviews, you got
Speaker 7: to have a lot of patience. You got to you know,
Speaker 7: get a report with the individuals. And I feel that
Speaker 7: once people feel trusted with you, they people want to
Speaker 7: brag about themselves. So it's not hard to get a confession.
Speaker 7: Once you get that response, you know through them, he.
Speaker 1: Is there have you learned over the years? I mean,
Speaker 1: is there certain certain psychological profile that kind of fits
Speaker 1: people who would commit very dangerous acts? I mean there
Speaker 1: is no one size fits all? Or do they sort
Speaker 1: of fall into a pattern if I can call it that.
Speaker 7: I don't know if I agree with that. I mean
Speaker 7: I've sat down with people where you think absolutely could
Speaker 7: not have done something like this and find out they did.
Speaker 7: My philosophy is always, you know, I assume everybody's guilty
Speaker 7: until I prove am innocent. So that way, I'm not
Speaker 7: lazy about what I do.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, Now, how much advanced work do you have
Speaker 1: to do before you're interviewing someone? Evidence gathering, you know,
Speaker 1: the crime scene information photographs. Do you use all that
Speaker 1: incorporated in your interview or you just kind of hit
Speaker 1: the ground running with it.
Speaker 7: Well, in this case here, I kind of spent about
Speaker 7: two days to getting prepared because there was a lot
Speaker 7: of paperwork involved in it, and when I do the
Speaker 7: interview that that stuff is on my table. I use
Speaker 7: a lot of that as props. Actually, there's times where
Speaker 7: I will take out photographs of the victim or of
Speaker 7: things that are uncomfortable source be sure, and I will
Speaker 7: leave them out there and during the interview just kind
Speaker 7: of watch his response and how he reacts to the
Speaker 7: photographs and stuff that are sitting in front of him.
Speaker 1: All right, let's turn specifically to the subject matter of
Speaker 1: the interview in your book, homicide Investigation the interview, what
Speaker 1: was he what was he suspected of?
Speaker 7: When you were interviewing, Well, there was a robbery that
Speaker 7: occurred involving three Hispanic males in an apartment complex there
Speaker 7: in Springdale. After that robbery occurred and the fleeing of
Speaker 7: that vehicle, an individual shot. He's actually one of the
Speaker 7: people that was, you know, involved in the actual robbery. Right,
Speaker 7: So basically it's an accidental shooting by bad guy in Ohio.
Speaker 7: Though that would only basically be you know, an accidental
Speaker 7: accident shooting, but the fact they're leaving a homicide or
Speaker 7: a robber, I should say, uh, it would make a felony,
Speaker 7: and therefore, you know, a homicide.
Speaker 1: And anybody involved in the crime where the homicide happened
Speaker 1: is himself or herself also going to be charged with
Speaker 1: that homicide.
Speaker 7: That's correct, And the purpose of the interview was one
Speaker 7: to establish they were involved in the actual robbery and
Speaker 7: who actually fired the round that killed Lamore.
Speaker 1: And I presume at the outset of the interview the
Speaker 1: guy denied even being there.
Speaker 7: This was a two hour timide interview, and it wasn't
Speaker 7: until about an hour and a half into it that
Speaker 7: we actually got something out of him that put him there.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, what was your first indication that you had
Speaker 1: the right guy?
Speaker 7: When he sat down?
Speaker 1: Sat down?
Speaker 7: Well, the reason I say that is the work had
Speaker 7: already been done, the search works were done. We had
Speaker 7: text messaging and we had phone records. Oh so when
Speaker 7: we said down, we pretty much knew everything we were
Speaker 7: going to be asking him.
Speaker 1: Then, Okay, well, when confronted with hard evidence like well,
Speaker 1: here's your cell phone, here's the text information back and forth,
Speaker 1: and this is why it's relevant to this particular case,
Speaker 1: how did someone just deny that? All right? I presume
Speaker 1: it's some measure of the guy denied it.
Speaker 7: No, he denied, strong, strong denials with his non involvement
Speaker 7: of it. But uh, and actually it's kind of interesting
Speaker 7: that the photograph is sitting in front of him. He
Speaker 7: actually turns around and actually points out and says she
Speaker 7: did it, and starts actually pointing on the photograph.
Speaker 1: I said, that's rather damning. Under the circumstances, he can't
Speaker 1: say you weren't there and then identify someone who was
Speaker 1: involved with it if you weren't there.
Speaker 7: That don't work very well.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work well. So what's a guy's reaction like
Speaker 1: that when he pointed out to him? He's denied it,
Speaker 1: denied it, and then he points to the photograph, said
Speaker 1: she did it? I mean, did you see Well, wait
Speaker 1: a second, U said, you weren't there. How is it
Speaker 1: you know she did it?
Speaker 7: Well, the other problem was who was driving the car?
Speaker 7: Who actually fired around? So at this point he claims
Speaker 7: now that he's the driver of the car and had
Speaker 7: nothing to do with actually firing around that killed him.
Speaker 1: But truly that doesn't really matter under the circumstances because
Speaker 1: again he was involved in the crime. That's correct, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: what is one of the more interesting sort of developments
Speaker 1: during this interview that you knew you had the right guy.
Speaker 1: I guess because I'm just kind of wondering how this
Speaker 1: all unfolds.
Speaker 7: Well, when he first sits down and everything, you know,
Speaker 7: the two of them were best friends. They grew up
Speaker 7: in school together Princeton. The person was actually killed was
Speaker 7: an upcoming football sensation. They thought he'd make it actually
Speaker 7: to the NFL, and he played off the fact that
Speaker 7: they were great, you know, great friends and everything. And
Speaker 7: when the shooting took place. Lamar didn't actually pass the
Speaker 7: night of the shooting. It was a couple of days thereafter.
Speaker 7: And this individual would actually stay with the family, you know,
Speaker 7: as a friend and everything else. And he had no
Speaker 7: idea that he was actually part of the homicide while
Speaker 7: he was living with an household.
Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll bring Jim Grendel back again. Storied
Speaker 1: law enforcement crew with the Springdale Police Department. He's been
Speaker 1: involved in a lot of different cases, some fascinating ones
Speaker 1: to me. We can touch base on a few more
Speaker 1: of those and talk about his career in law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: Eight eighteen here fifty fouo KRCD talk station. Jim Grindle
Speaker 1: retired from the springdalf Police Department, and he did a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of years as a police officer but also
Speaker 1: an investigator. I'm talking about one of the cases he
Speaker 1: did an interview on and ultimately the suspect was incarcerated
Speaker 1: homicide investigation. The interview, it's a very interesting work of
Speaker 1: you know, how you get information out of a guy
Speaker 1: who's in absolute, outright denial and lying to you through
Speaker 1: his teeth. I thought it was a rather funny exchange, Jim,
Speaker 1: you're He says, I wasn't there, I wasn't in the car.
Speaker 1: I wasn't in the car. And you say, wait a second,
Speaker 1: I got your phone records. Man, we know you were there.
Speaker 1: And he denied even knowing the woman that was involved
Speaker 1: in the crime, although he had like twenty two different
Speaker 1: phone calls tour. I mean, this guy was just an
Speaker 1: exercise of futility in his denials.
Speaker 7: Well, he only claimed to note for a short period
Speaker 7: of time, but because of those records, we know that
Speaker 7: the actual robbery has been playing like four days in
Speaker 7: prior to that, and that they'd actually known each other
Speaker 7: for over a week.
Speaker 1: Wow, how did the person get shot because it was
Speaker 1: an accidental shooting?
Speaker 7: He said, well, well, well, one of them was driving
Speaker 7: the car. And I really don't want to throw the
Speaker 7: actual shooter out yet here because it's in the book
Speaker 7: and I think it'd be interesting for people to kind
Speaker 7: of it's a hoody type thing. Sure, But in the
Speaker 7: in the getaway leaving the crime scene of the robbery,
Speaker 7: he shot the another individual gets shot is in the
Speaker 7: front seat of the car.
Speaker 1: It was an accident. The shot came from the back seat.
Speaker 1: So you ever see pulp fiction?
Speaker 7: I did not see that.
Speaker 1: Oh well, there's a scene in pulp fiction the the
Speaker 1: uh one of the gangsters in the front of the
Speaker 1: car and he's got his forty five automatic but he
Speaker 1: has his finger on the trigger and he's talking to
Speaker 1: a kid that's in the back seat asking him a question,
Speaker 1: and the gun goes off and it blows the kid's
Speaker 1: head off. As a total accident, But that's sounds analogous
Speaker 1: to what happens. That's pretty much what happened. Okay, keep
Speaker 1: your finger off the trigger unless you are intending to
Speaker 1: shoot the firearm. A little lesson there. So it's called
Speaker 1: the homicide investigation. The interview, real fascinating stuff with Jim. Jim,
Speaker 1: I understand you have another book in the works. What's
Speaker 1: that one about?
Speaker 7: That's actually a homicide from nineteen ninety nine. It's the
Speaker 7: Walker It's gonna be the Walker Files. It's a sixty
Speaker 7: seven year old man that was beaten to death in
Speaker 7: his home. We know that the people response before the
Speaker 7: death or out of the Indianapolis, Indiana area, two people
Speaker 7: were actually apprehended for using the credit cards after about
Speaker 7: a thirty day surveillance of some gas stations, and then
Speaker 7: from there some other suspects were they're really strong, strong,
Speaker 7: you know, people of ventures. Because of some of the
Speaker 7: things that occurred in Indianapolis and also here in Cincinnati,
Speaker 7: we could put them in the locations here.
Speaker 1: All right, So another sort of who done it? And
Speaker 1: a crime book in the works. We're here from Jim
Speaker 1: on that one. After it's out and done, make sure
Speaker 1: you give me a copy of it.
Speaker 7: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Let me just get your comments and thoughts about we.
Speaker 1: I'm a huge supporter of law enforcement. You know that
Speaker 1: we've already talked about it, and I think you were
Speaker 1: aware from listening to the show. My sister retired from
Speaker 1: the Cincinni Police Department after twenty five years of career
Speaker 1: law enforcement. Your perception of what's going on now? We
Speaker 1: have a difficult time recruiting police officers now, the defund
Speaker 1: the police, the police are all a bunch of racists.
Speaker 1: You know that kind of narrative has permeated through the society.
Speaker 1: Are since a police departments down one hundred and fifty officers.
Speaker 1: They're losing more and more every day. I know they
Speaker 1: got some classes lined up and they're trying to do
Speaker 1: some lateral hires. What's your take on law enforcement right now?
Speaker 1: You know, for someone out there that maybe consider for
Speaker 1: a career, and do you think things have kind of
Speaker 1: run off the rails as we exist in a society
Speaker 1: here relative to our perceptional law enforcement.
Speaker 7: Well, from when I started in nineteen eighty, things have
Speaker 7: come along way, and I say that not in a
Speaker 7: good way. When you got law enforcement back then, it
Speaker 7: was a brotherhood. It was something you really wanted to do.
Speaker 7: Now it's a job for just money. I mean people
Speaker 7: come and get to work. You know, I see people
Speaker 7: turning down details to pay fifty five sixty dollars an hour.
Speaker 7: There's not a strong brotherhood like there used to be.
Speaker 7: And it's like you said that with the courts and
Speaker 7: what they're doing now with the people that are you know,
Speaker 7: I think what they do is they protect mostly the
Speaker 7: bad people and the people that are good people it's
Speaker 7: just don't work for them.
Speaker 1: Well, in your motivation to go into law enforcement, I
Speaker 1: suppose comes out of your sense of community. You want
Speaker 1: to help the community. You want to you know, get
Speaker 1: the bad guys and see the justices served well.
Speaker 7: With everything said like that, here I am forty four
Speaker 7: years later and I still enjoy it like it was
Speaker 7: the day one for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, one sense of community doesn't disappear with age.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can become jaded and cynical, but it's
Speaker 1: the reason you entered into law enforcement. And it's kind
Speaker 1: of a shame that it's it's it's it's gotten the
Speaker 1: way it has. And you're right, I said, the the
Speaker 1: the core to the justice system, the key, you know,
Speaker 1: leg on the stool of the justice system is holding
Speaker 1: people accountable and and and you know, punishing them for
Speaker 1: their crimes. It acts as a deterrent so that others
Speaker 1: do not do it. He's that person's held out as
Speaker 1: an example. Look what's going to happen to you if
Speaker 1: you do the same damn thing, So you're not inclined
Speaker 1: to do it. I wouldn't want to go to jail,
Speaker 1: for God's sake. It's enough of a determ for me
Speaker 1: to keep my nose clean my entire life. But if
Speaker 1: you take that away, things runningm uck well. And with
Speaker 1: that said, I mean I've worked with a lot of
Speaker 1: great people. My career wouldn't be like it is without
Speaker 1: the people I worked side by side with. And I
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of good people out there, and
Speaker 1: then a lot of them have the same feelings I
Speaker 1: do that this is a great career. I still recommend
Speaker 1: it to people. Good for you, I'm glad so.
Speaker 7: And that's what you put into it. I mean, if
Speaker 7: you go into it with a you know, where you
Speaker 7: get along with people, you like to work with people,
Speaker 7: it'll work for.
Speaker 1: You, right, And no one's going to tell anybody it's
Speaker 1: an easy job, that's for sure, but it can be
Speaker 1: very rewarding. It is, Yeah, well, Jim, it's been a
Speaker 1: real pleasure having you in the studio talking. Joe's gonna
Speaker 1: put your book up on my blog page P five
Speaker 1: cars dot com. You look, did you publish this yourself
Speaker 1: or do you have luckily published because you didn't go
Speaker 1: to Chili Dog Press?
Speaker 4: Did you?
Speaker 7: I did not, now that ch asked me that that's
Speaker 7: one I don't remember. I know exactly what it is.
Speaker 7: I just can't say the name of it.
Speaker 1: Now, that's all right.
Speaker 7: It's a local right there off of Fairfax.
Speaker 1: Joe put it on the blog page fifty five cars
Speaker 1: dot com. I noted one more thing I gotta ask
Speaker 1: you before we part company today, and I wish you
Speaker 1: best of the weekend. The Russia White Plastic investigation is
Speaker 1: one of the high profile cases you mentioned in the
Speaker 1: liner notes on the back of the book. Real quick,
Speaker 1: what's that all about?
Speaker 7: Well, well, at what they were doing is they were
Speaker 7: coming in and this was going on over the country.
Speaker 7: But they were taking Now the credit cards are they
Speaker 7: got the little strip on the backside of them. What
Speaker 7: they were doing is they were they were in voting
Speaker 7: them with you know, stuff that they stole information off
Speaker 7: other cards. Then they would go to ATM machines and
Speaker 7: start withdrawing money. And they were doing this all over
Speaker 7: the country, and they were out of Turkey and some
Speaker 7: people out of Russia, and Secrett Service did the majority
Speaker 7: of that, but it started a lot. Actually in Springdale,
Speaker 7: they went to a what was that a travel Yeah,
Speaker 7: and they were taking the cards and putting nine thousand,
Speaker 7: nine hundred and niney nine dollars on them, and that
Speaker 7: started the investigation with us.
Speaker 1: Well, and as you also worked with the FBI, got
Speaker 1: secret service there, and you're involved in a multitude of
Speaker 1: cases over your entire career. Jim, it's been a real
Speaker 1: pleasure talking. Will you thank for putting it down on
Speaker 1: paper and letting us enjoy and learn from your experience
Speaker 1: as law enforcement officer.
Speaker 7: Well, I appreciate you for having me.
Speaker 1: It's been a real pleasure. Have a wonderful weekend, sir.
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Speaker 1: Over to the phones. I'm gonna go, Jeff, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the morning show. Happy Friday to you, my friend.
Speaker 12: Good morning, Brian. As always you enjoy our true patriots.
Speaker 1: Buddy love hearing that. I truly appreciate the compliment, and
Speaker 1: I do take it as a great compliment.
Speaker 4: It is it is.
Speaker 12: Hopefully it will never be a code word. But anyway,
Speaker 12: I mean there's been crazier Jeff. Anyway, Well that's true.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 12: What I want to let all the listeners know, and
Speaker 12: of course to talk to their friends about, is you
Speaker 12: can have the best police force in the world, but
Speaker 12: unless you have strong district attorneys and prosecutors and even
Speaker 12: city council people, you're not going to have a very
Speaker 12: good law enforcement because they're the ones who will then
Speaker 12: end up punishing the people that the police bring in.
Speaker 12: And as we've seen unfortunately in a lot of these
Speaker 12: coastal cities which will remain nameless New York and calibrating
Speaker 12: and and they it's it's not going to help the
Speaker 12: police if all you do is it's a revolving door
Speaker 12: when they bring them in and they just release them.
Speaker 12: If you do something wrong, if you and I, you
Speaker 12: or I break the law, we have to be punished.
Speaker 12: It's not so much as a cruel thing. It's actually
Speaker 12: a good thing. It keeps us from reoffending, It keeps
Speaker 12: us from getting worse with our law breaking. I mean,
Speaker 12: if you don't punish these people, it just emboldens them
Speaker 12: to do worse and worse things. And I just can't
Speaker 12: reiterate enough that we got to remember when you when
Speaker 12: you hire these people, when you vote for them, they've
Speaker 12: got to be strong on the police. They've got to
Speaker 12: be strong on the constitution. Right, We've got to make
Speaker 12: sure we punish the evildoers and try to protect the victims.
Speaker 12: I mean, we just got to do it.
Speaker 1: I agree. And as I've talked with the FOP president
Speaker 1: and many times and over the years of talking to
Speaker 1: the various FOP presidents, members of law enforcement, if you
Speaker 1: don't have the enforcement element in place, if either your
Speaker 1: prosecutorial wing is not interested in prosecutions, which up until
Speaker 1: recently has not been the case, if you judges will
Speaker 1: not punish and they're very lenient, then the police think
Speaker 1: it's a pointless effort to do their job. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I always kind of speculate them in the
Speaker 1: back of my mind, you know, Jay, Jeff, I wonder
Speaker 1: what the real crime statistics would be if the police
Speaker 1: actually arrested everybody who should have been arrested, if they
Speaker 1: didn't just ignore the curfew violations. Let the young teenagers
Speaker 1: go out on the street because they know that nothing's
Speaker 1: going to happen of them, and the work in arresting
Speaker 1: them is a pointless gesture because there's no place to
Speaker 1: put them, so why bother If they had actually, you know,
Speaker 1: issued citations or otherwise arrested everybody that they encounter who's
Speaker 1: committed to crime and it has the justifiable reason for
Speaker 1: being arrested, I bet the crime stats would be a
Speaker 1: lot worse. It's just that its point is doing their job.
Speaker 1: I feel sorry for It's one of the reasons morale
Speaker 1: is down. Yeah, my friend, I appreciate the call, Jeff,
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Speaker 6: Morning, Brian, no problem, brother gobtailing with your discussion, and
Speaker 6: I that it's been right on the money. You know,
Speaker 6: not only are police discouraged because of liberal judges.
Speaker 1: Let's be fair here.
Speaker 5: Liberal judges supported.
Speaker 6: By your local Democrat party that give light sentences no bonds,
Speaker 6: think that the criminals are the victims, and the victims
Speaker 6: are actually forgotten about.
Speaker 1: That is the cause for a lot of this. But
Speaker 1: I'd like to dovetail this over.
Speaker 12: To not to always tie everything to party politics.
Speaker 6: But something that jumped out at me. I don't know
Speaker 6: if you, I'm sure you saw that yesterday was the second,
Speaker 6: if not third. I'm kind of losing count. It becomes
Speaker 6: like an exercise daily for these people. Another protest was
Speaker 6: held yesterday around around the country. Yea, and which is
Speaker 6: funny that it was during it seemed to be during
Speaker 6: business hours.
Speaker 8: A lot of these people don't have jobs.
Speaker 1: This might be their job.
Speaker 6: But I saw there's a recurring theme along a lot
Speaker 6: of these protesters, and that is that they are actually
Speaker 6: There was many, many signs in many shirts I saw
Speaker 6: that said something online wishing violence on Donald Trump and
Speaker 6: actually the murder of Donald Trump. To be honest with you,
Speaker 6: when you say eighty six forty seven and then you chuckle.
Speaker 6: A woman had a sign that said someone just do it.
Speaker 4: And I asked, what this.
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, I saw your post on that. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yes, And so you know these people and then they
Speaker 6: advocate for so these people are actually I just I
Speaker 6: don't know where the disconnect is with these people in
Speaker 6: there in what should be a brain area that they.
Speaker 1: Can't make the connection.
Speaker 6: They are advocating for the murder of a human being.
Speaker 8: Murder.
Speaker 6: Let's just call it what it is, a murder of
Speaker 6: a human being because they disagree with them politically. I
Speaker 6: want that to sink into everybody out there. When you
Speaker 6: know you might lif like Donald Trump, God knows, I
Speaker 6: did not. I was not a big fan of Joe Biden.
Speaker 6: But you can search back through any any utterance I've
Speaker 6: ever made regarding Joe Biden or the number I've never
Speaker 6: advocate catered for the actual death of another human beings
Speaker 6: on political lines or any other lines. Now, are there
Speaker 6: some that I won't be torn up about if their
Speaker 6: time comes?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Sure, I mean, let's be honest, But that doesn't that's
Speaker 6: not on political that's more on personal beats.
Speaker 1: That I might have with somebody.
Speaker 6: Where the Democrat Party is at as far left as
Speaker 6: they've gone, I find really really troubling, and voters need
Speaker 6: to you know, you are lamenting the police, are lamenting
Speaker 6: the crime and about the crime, the violence here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 6: You can clearly trace this back to one party here.
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying everything breaks down on party lines.
Speaker 6: And then they say, oh, judges are a political that's
Speaker 6: a bunch of bunk. Okay, judges don't get to put
Speaker 6: an R or D next to it. But they are
Speaker 6: they are very supported by political parties. They are nominated,
Speaker 6: they are supported, they are held up, they are they
Speaker 6: are you know, voted by mostly on political lines. And
Speaker 6: you can clearly traced fact that God only is this poor,
Speaker 6: you know, the level of morale on the police suffering
Speaker 6: because of this you know, it's just we said no deterrence.
Speaker 6: I saw news stories yesterday about oh protesters arrested at
Speaker 6: the anti ice protests on the Rowland Bridge. They're arrested
Speaker 6: because they were blocking traffic.
Speaker 4: Okay, you don't have the right to block traffic.
Speaker 6: You might right to protest. You still have a sideway,
Speaker 6: sidewalk all day long. But where where is this coming from?
Speaker 1: And let's call it out.
Speaker 6: You know this this we've crossed the path we are now.
Speaker 6: One party is actively they're a lot of their supporters,
Speaker 6: and to be fair, the leaders go along with it
Speaker 6: because God knows.
Speaker 1: They cannot fight.
Speaker 6: Their mob that they have is one of their pillars
Speaker 6: of their base. So one of we have a political
Speaker 6: party in America right now today is advocating for the
Speaker 6: murder of one of their political opponents. Yet somehow these
Speaker 6: very same people have the gumption to get on their
Speaker 6: soapbox and label the.
Speaker 1: Other side as Nazis. Yeah find it funny. Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: and you know the other thing I find very troubling.
Speaker 1: And on one level, you know, the sort of maybe
Speaker 1: little ill libertarian and we kind of find some understanding
Speaker 1: and appreciation for the argument. But in the days that
Speaker 1: we live in now where there's docsing and where people
Speaker 1: can easily be found where they live, who their family
Speaker 1: members are. Just using social media alone as a tool
Speaker 1: like Facebook, you can figure out who family members are.
Speaker 1: Of course, go to the Hamilton County Auditor's web page
Speaker 1: and find out if somebody owns a house under a
Speaker 1: certain name in Hamilton County. But all the counties have
Speaker 1: that the idea that that there are elected officials pushing
Speaker 1: for legislation taking away the ability of ICE agents to
Speaker 1: keep their faces covered to avoid that happening. Because it
Speaker 1: is happening. Our ICE agents are under threat all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean the amount of crime and criminal activity directed
Speaker 1: at ICE agents according to report I read, is jumped
Speaker 1: like eight hundred and fifty percent. They're being threatened, their
Speaker 1: families are being threatened, and one of the ways they
Speaker 1: have to protect themselves and their families from that is
Speaker 1: by key and their faces covered.
Speaker 6: So no question, and I'll tell you this, I say,
Speaker 6: you may hear it, Neil right on the head, you know, clear,
Speaker 6: you know, I'll just to parenthetically, I was a victim,
Speaker 6: you know, a liberal here in the township, a local
Speaker 6: lunatic UH created a false profile and and and went
Speaker 6: on social media, listed my property, both of my properties
Speaker 6: for sale, put my phone number out there, also put
Speaker 6: my name on made false claims about pedophilia and put
Speaker 6: it on a pedophile side. I had to get that
Speaker 6: taken down. This is what occurs in America today. And they,
Speaker 6: you know, yuck, yuck, wink wink, we didn't do it.
Speaker 6: We don't know who.
Speaker 4: That is.
Speaker 6: What a croc, I mean, just what a crock. The
Speaker 6: lunatic left is keep lurching further and further to the left,
Speaker 6: and you know, unless the voters finally have had enough,
Speaker 6: and this next election cycle you have a good chance
Speaker 6: to do that by re electing good conservative judges.
Speaker 1: That's where it starts.
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying vote along party lines, but by god,
Speaker 6: if you don't start holding these parts. He is responsible
Speaker 6: for nominating, supporting, and pushing these liberal judges across the
Speaker 6: finish line. And then they get an office and they
Speaker 6: have the gumption to say, oh, that's an a political part.
Speaker 1: You know that's not a partisan position.
Speaker 6: Well, it clearly is. And that goes all the way
Speaker 6: down to school boards. I mean you know that that
Speaker 6: the school boards, I truly feel should be a political However,
Speaker 6: in today's society, what is what isn't a political? Everything
Speaker 6: you do now today has been spun is political. Yes, So,
Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you have a choice to make.
Speaker 6: One party has lurched further and further to the left,
Speaker 6: and now that they're not getting their way, they're becoming
Speaker 6: violent and pushing for violence and advocating murder. And the
Speaker 6: other party. I'd love for someone to point out, can
Speaker 6: you think, I mean, you've known me a long time,
Speaker 6: and you've known my conservative views, and you know conservatives.
Speaker 6: Can you remember anyone pushing or advocating for the murder
Speaker 6: or death of Joe Biden?
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know Obama, I don't never.
Speaker 6: Never would need to be considered unfathomable. Now is the norm?
Speaker 4: Ye.
Speaker 6: So unless we unless we start to reel this back in,
Speaker 6: we're going to have a very big problem. Violence is
Speaker 6: not the answer. However, when confronted with violence, you only
Speaker 6: have you know, you have the right to defend yourself.
Speaker 6: And if that, if it's going to be survival of
Speaker 6: the fittest, that's who anarchy is, that's what we're going for.
Speaker 6: That's the place I don't want to go and I
Speaker 6: don't want to live.
Speaker 1: In a society like that a then all day long,
Speaker 1: although Drew I got to point out, I would like
Speaker 1: to qualify this. I don't want to see that happen.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go through some kind of civil war.
Speaker 1: I don't want societal unrest. Generally. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to go about my life peacefully, but knowing the
Speaker 1: people that I know, if it came down to a
Speaker 1: shooting war, I think we're probably on the better equipped side, Drew. Plus,
Speaker 1: we've got the range time. I appreciate it, Drew, I do. Man,
Speaker 1: you have a great weekend. I appreciate tenning in the
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Speaker 8: Hey Brian, I worry man.
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Speaker 8: Thanks for the plug, man, I appreciate now. I was
Speaker 8: speaking of why you know, I'm driving around as I
Speaker 8: do in the morning's always listened to you, always enjoy
Speaker 8: the show.
Speaker 1: You know that, thanks mate.
Speaker 8: You know, listen to some of these conversations. A few
Speaker 8: things kind of kind of struck me and it's kind
Speaker 8: of been going around in my head lately when I've
Speaker 8: been tuning in the news or whatnot, and you know,
Speaker 8: the reports of you know, juvenile crime up et cetera,
Speaker 8: et cetera, which I don't think is exclusive to Cincinnati.
Speaker 8: But you know, there's one thing, that one element that's
Speaker 8: always neglected or at least too rarely neglected to be
Speaker 8: talked about that you know, dads need to be more
Speaker 8: involved with with their children's lives. And there needs to
Speaker 8: be a bigger push rather than or maybe not rather,
Speaker 8: but in tandem with all these other efforts that we're
Speaker 8: trying to do, we need to be putting out the
Speaker 8: message that you know, dads and fathers are such an
Speaker 8: important role in the development, especially in the development of
Speaker 8: of young men's lives, to where if they don't have that,
Speaker 8: it's it's too easy for them to go astray and
Speaker 8: and get you know, not only influenced by, but taking
Speaker 8: advantage of some some bad actors and bad characters and
Speaker 8: thus caused a bunch of trouble. But you know, I
Speaker 8: I really think that that's that's the biggest solution, would
Speaker 8: be the biggest tool in the tool belt of the
Speaker 8: city and the region to just get the word out
Speaker 8: even more so. And and dads you need to get
Speaker 8: involved in uh and and it's it's just it's just rampant,
Speaker 8: and you're talking about it.
Speaker 1: You are right, and you know that to double down
Speaker 1: on your point, the need for father and the need
Speaker 1: for the involvement of men and these young people's lives
Speaker 1: to help mold them, to show them, you know what
Speaker 1: it is to go to work every day. I mean
Speaker 1: that alone. If you're live in a house and you
Speaker 1: got a dad that gets up every day and goes
Speaker 1: to work, he is demonstrating something to you that is valuable,
Speaker 1: that work is important and he's willing to get up
Speaker 1: and go to work every day for you, it's a
Speaker 1: sign of love without even say out loud, I love you.
Speaker 1: But the problem is we live right now at a
Speaker 1: time in society when men are belittled, they have been minimized.
Speaker 1: Women don't need men in their lives. They're equal as men,
Speaker 1: and they're not going to play I mean, you know
Speaker 1: how it is the idea of a real, true old
Speaker 1: fashioned man's man has been replaced by, you know, the
Speaker 1: likes of like a David Hog type character.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's it's really bizarre. I'm at least thankful of
Speaker 8: the previous election that we've seen some change and some
Speaker 8: shift of that time.
Speaker 4: But you know in a day and age.
Speaker 8: Where the stupid phrays you know, toxic massiculinity. Yeah, I
Speaker 8: mean that that is just is definition less as toxic femininity.
Speaker 8: So like if somebody can like describe either one of those,
Speaker 8: you know, but that's never spoken of. It's just it's
Speaker 8: the blame so to speak, or whatever do you want
Speaker 8: to call that. It's falling squarely on the shoulders of men.
Speaker 8: And it's just not a great example for people. You know,
Speaker 8: both of the sexes bring wonderful things to the table,
Speaker 8: and and you know, family unit is made whole by
Speaker 8: both those people moving together, you know. And and but
Speaker 8: fathers need to be in the homes and dads need
Speaker 8: to get involved, and that's what needs to happen in
Speaker 8: the community more. And that's what I think.
Speaker 4: That's my two cents today, besides.
Speaker 8: All the wine knowledge I got floating around.
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