WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.960 Five O five and fifty five k r C the 2 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:18.480 Cope stations. Serious Happy Friday. 3 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:21.120 Some sense. 4 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:34.240 Will there it is? You know it's Friday. Got a woohoo, 5 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:36.479 Thank you, Joe Chreker, second producer. My name's Brian Thomas, 6 00:00:36.479 --> 00:00:39.840 host to the fifty five Carrecy Morning Show and always 7 00:00:39.960 --> 00:00:44.359 extra special. Happy because it is Friday. Dearly love my 8 00:00:44.479 --> 00:00:46.600 weekend time. Not that I don't like the end of 9 00:00:46.600 --> 00:00:49.719 the morning show, just I like sleeping in. Anyhow, Tech 10 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:51.399 Friday coming up to six thirty. One of the one 11 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:53.439 of the great reasons for tuning into the fifty five 12 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:56.560 Carcy Morning Show on Friday. Dave Hatter from Interest It 13 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:01.359 Well give it a advice, trying to keep us out 14 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:03.679 of trouble. If we just took his advice, we'd stay 15 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:07.239 out of trouble. Topics today with Dave Hatter, think twice 16 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:14.000 before you unsubscribe. North Koreans have secured remote jobs in 17 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:20.159 US companies and Google is reading your WhatsApp instant messages. 18 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:24.799 Now why would Google do that? He hates Google. Anyhow, 19 00:01:24.959 --> 00:01:29.000 we'll hear from Dave Tinfoil Hatter at six thirty. Don 20 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:31.920 Hyry Toltman, our resident German expert with the book I 21 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:36.840 Am Innocent. It's a jail cell autobiography of Bruno Richard Haupman. 22 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:39.719 In case you don't remember, he is the German immigrant 23 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.879 who was accused, tried, and convicted of kidnapping and murdering 24 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:50.079 Charles Lindbergh Junior. Apparently harr Holtzman edited the book. So 25 00:01:50.120 --> 00:01:53.599 we're gonna hear from Don at seven thirty about the book. 26 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.840 Another book and in studio retired detective Jim Grendel local 27 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.040 retired detective his book Homicide Investigation. He was a former 28 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:07.439 Springdale Police Department officer and he's written this true crime 29 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:10.759 book about a homicide investigation. Think was a cold case anyway. 30 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:14.199 He's also running another one and that has not yet 31 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:16.319 been released yet, but something tells me we may get 32 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:19.199 few of the details from Jim. At eight oh five 33 00:02:19.400 --> 00:02:21.199 again he will be in studio. You could be in 34 00:02:21.240 --> 00:02:24.919 studio sort of metaphorically by calling five one three, seven 35 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:27.599 four nine fifty five hundred eight hundred eighty two three 36 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.080 talk with pound five fifty on AT and T phones 37 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:32.879 and as always a reminder to head on over to 38 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:35.080 fifty five care sea dot com where you can stream 39 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:37.039 the audio directly from the fifty five care sea dot 40 00:02:37.039 --> 00:02:39.159 com web page. But you can also get the iHeartMedia 41 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:40.919 app so you can load it onto your device. Less 42 00:02:40.960 --> 00:02:43.960 of the content from my Heart wherever you have it 43 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:48.080 to be, including of course the podcast. Steve Gooden, So 44 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.240 happy I have Steve won the program yesterday talked about 45 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.080 Biden's auto pen and the legal ramifications of it. Has 46 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:57.120 determined that it wasn't used appropriately or legal expert Steve 47 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:01.039 Gooden also running as a charter right for say City Council. 48 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:05.360 Great ideas solid across the board. Good Man, vote for him. Please, 49 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.919 Dear God, hasn't gotten his signatures yet, but you only 50 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:10.879 need five hundred by August twenty first, and he's not 51 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:14.560 going to have any problem whatsoever getting the signatures. Congressman 52 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.960 Warren Davidson joined the show talk about a variety of 53 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.360 different issues, including the spending cuts package that did land 54 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:24.479 in the House yesterday and I got around the stroke 55 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:29.240 of midnight. It passed nine billion dollars. Oh my god, 56 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:32.719 one half of one percent or something along those lines, 57 00:03:32.759 --> 00:03:37.000 some tiny little amount. It just raised so much concern 58 00:03:37.120 --> 00:03:41.479 and ire of Democrats. We can't cancel this USA program. 59 00:03:41.680 --> 00:03:44.680 It was one of the representatives was screaming about protecting 60 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:48.000 the Sesame Street in Iran program one of the dumber 61 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:52.680 things identified by Doge, and believing that that would counter 62 00:03:52.919 --> 00:04:01.080 the anti US sentiment in Iran. Think about that. You 63 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:03.680 live in a country where the motto basically is death 64 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:06.280 to America and death to Israel, and you think a 65 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:09.159 half hour program funded by the United States is going 66 00:04:09.199 --> 00:04:12.599 to change the hearts and minds, sort of like the 67 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:19.319 modern day Voice of America. You don't have to use 68 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:22.360 radio waves and bounce signals off of clouds into areas 69 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:25.240 where they try to block the radio frequencies from coming 70 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:28.199 into the countries to avoid propaganda. You just put it 71 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:33.399 on TV thanks to USAID presumably multi million, if not 72 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:38.439 billion dollar contribution from you, the American taxpayer. Laughable concept, 73 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:42.120 at least that's how I come down. Anyway. Congress officially 74 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.759 sent it up Spending Package deal nine billion dollars in 75 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:47.519 spending cuts, that Trump's going to sign it today. I 76 00:04:47.560 --> 00:04:51.279 think today was a deadline. The Recision Package two sixteen 77 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:56.879 to two thirteen. After an intense debate between Republicans and Democrats, 78 00:04:57.319 --> 00:05:00.920 the Republicans have voted against it. Representative Brian fitzpat Pennsylvania 79 00:05:01.000 --> 00:05:06.279 Republican and Republican Mike Turner from here in Ohio. No 80 00:05:06.399 --> 00:05:09.000 explanation in the reporting I saw by why Mike Turners 81 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:12.839 voted know for it. So today being the deadline, the 82 00:05:12.839 --> 00:05:16.279 White House is going to sign it. Otherwise they have 83 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:19.560 to re obligate those funds as they were initially allocated 84 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:24.519 by Congress. Mike Johnson calling it a victory but symbolic. 85 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:31.079 So I'm describing this as a test on efforts to 86 00:05:31.319 --> 00:05:34.079 claw back even more funds. And I got a parallel 87 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:36.639 to draw on that. Yeah, nine billion dollars a very 88 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:40.839 tiny fraction of the seven trillion dollars the federal government 89 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:45.160 shells out every year. So it is symbolic in a way. 90 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.399 But I'm glad it was block eight billion dollar block 91 00:05:48.439 --> 00:05:52.480 for US Agency for International Development USA one billion block 92 00:05:52.519 --> 00:05:55.079 that would have gone to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. 93 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:56.800 That's the one that got people all haunted to the 94 00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:02.199 collar as if NPR and PBS are going to disappear. 95 00:06:02.800 --> 00:06:07.000 It's a fraction of their overall budget. Most are from contributions, 96 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:10.279 and many are suggesting that given the outrage express that 97 00:06:10.279 --> 00:06:12.319 that's going to result in even more money going to 98 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:15.480 the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and PBS like all these 99 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:18.519 liberal leftist donors are going to open their pocketbooks up 100 00:06:18.560 --> 00:06:21.639 and write checks to keep them alive, because of course 101 00:06:21.680 --> 00:06:26.079 you need American funding of broadcasting. It reminds me of 102 00:06:26.079 --> 00:06:30.000 Soviet Union Russia when he really comes down to it. Anyway, 103 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:32.360 this is the first time a Decisions package has been 104 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:35.439 signed into law since nineteen ninety nine. Not done very 105 00:06:35.439 --> 00:06:46.480 frequently so, but given the dollar amount nine billion dollars, 106 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.639 and all the handwringing and all of the arguments and 107 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:55.680 outrage express mostly from the Democrats, how about four billion 108 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:59.959 dollars slightly less than half of the total amount of 109 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.600 that is in the recision bill. It was that he's 110 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:08.759 going to sign California's high speed rail It was announced 111 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:13.000 earlier this week the Transportation Secretary to Sean Duffy terminated 112 00:07:13.680 --> 00:07:18.319 four billion dollars in unspent federal funding going from the 113 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:22.399 Federal Railroad Administration, your taxpayer dollars to this high speed 114 00:07:22.480 --> 00:07:29.720 rail project that's gone literally nowhere in California. Four billion dollars. 115 00:07:30.680 --> 00:07:34.199 In his statement, Duffy said, this is California's fault. Governor Knwsman, 116 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:37.519 the complicit Democrats have enabled this waste four years. Federal 117 00:07:37.519 --> 00:07:39.519 dollars are not a blank check. They come with a 118 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:44.839 promise to deliver results. The announcement followed months of scrutiny 119 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:49.959 after a comprehensive compliance review, along with feled attempts by 120 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:57.360 California High Speed Rail Authority CHISRA to address the product deficiencies. 121 00:07:57.600 --> 00:08:01.639 Duffy's statement, after over a decade of failures, just as 122 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.240 management incompetence has proven it cannot build, it's trained to 123 00:08:05.279 --> 00:08:07.439 nowhere on time, We're on budget. It's time for this 124 00:08:07.480 --> 00:08:10.279 boondoggle to die. President Trump and I will always fight 125 00:08:10.319 --> 00:08:12.920 to ensure your tax dollars only go to projects that 126 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:16.399 accomplish great, big, beautiful things. Fine, how much? How many 127 00:08:16.480 --> 00:08:18.199 miles of rail did they build on this? This has 128 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:24.759 been going on for years. Zero. Not a single track 129 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:30.839 has been laid since ground was broken ten years ago. Meanwhile, 130 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:33.480 costs continued to balloon. President Trump said, you know, to 131 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:36.320 the law abiding, tax paying, hardworking citizens of the United 132 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:39.480 States of America, I'm thrilled amounts that I've officially freed 133 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:44.679 you from funding California's disasterly overpriced I Speed Trained to Nowhere. 134 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:52.240 He went on, miss boondoggle led by Incomona Governor California 135 00:08:52.320 --> 00:08:54.720 Gavin new Scum, as he always refers to him as 136 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.200 cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars and we have 137 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:01.240 received nothing in return except cost overrun. The railroad we 138 00:09:01.240 --> 00:09:03.679 were promised still does not exist and never will. This 139 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:08.679 project was severely overpriced, overregulated, and never delivered thanks to 140 00:09:08.720 --> 00:09:11.960 Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy. Not a single penny and federal 141 00:09:12.000 --> 00:09:14.639 dollars will go toward the Newscomb scam. Ever, again, this 142 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:17.159 was an ill conceived and unnecessary project in a total 143 00:09:17.159 --> 00:09:19.679 waste of taxpayer money. But no more. There you go. 144 00:09:23.840 --> 00:09:27.240 Representative Kevin Kelley, he's Republican in California. He sponsored legislation 145 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:31.159 to prohibit further federal funding of this boondoggle project, saying 146 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:35.399 California's icepeed rail is the worst public infrastructure disaster in 147 00:09:35.559 --> 00:09:41.080 US history. The project that was supposed to be finished, 148 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:44.519 these were the facts really are just mind boggling, as 149 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.679 he notes, the project was supposed to be finished five 150 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:52.200 years ago. Remember, ground broke ten years ago and they 151 00:09:52.200 --> 00:09:57.120 haven't laid a single track. Supposed to be finished five 152 00:09:57.200 --> 00:09:59.960 years ago at a cost of thirty three billion dollar 153 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.320 dollars is now projected to take till the end of 154 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:06.879 this century at a cost of one hundred and thirty 155 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:10.679 billion dollars. I'm grateful that Trump and Secretary Duff you 156 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:12.879 are sparing our taxpayers by cutting off federal funding. The 157 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:15.960 state must now follow suit with this disastrous project down 158 00:10:16.000 --> 00:10:22.000 and spend our transportation dollars where they are needed our roads. 159 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.240 This some of course, didn't take this lying down, obviously 160 00:10:25.279 --> 00:10:30.120 threatening lawsuits. Release the statement in response to the Trump 161 00:10:30.159 --> 00:10:33.879 administration what they determined to call illegally determining federal grant 162 00:10:33.919 --> 00:10:37.120 agreements from the funding California's high speed rail and get 163 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:40.519 a load of the statement. Newsom Trump wants to hand 164 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:47.320 China the future and abandon the Central Valley. How does 165 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:53.840 China come into the equation? What does China have anything 166 00:10:53.840 --> 00:10:57.639 to do with this boondoggle project? Go ahead, make some 167 00:10:57.720 --> 00:10:59.120 sense of that if you will. If you come over 168 00:10:59.159 --> 00:11:02.759 with an answer, please call Newson went on. We won't 169 00:11:02.799 --> 00:11:05.360 let him with projects like the Texas High Speed Rail 170 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:07.840 failing to take off. We are miles ahead of others, 171 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:11.080 miles ahead of others. That's actually a funny statement, given 172 00:11:11.080 --> 00:11:14.120 it a zero miles of track have been laid and 173 00:11:14.159 --> 00:11:18.200 the project has been basically a non starter since it 174 00:11:18.600 --> 00:11:23.559 ground brog ten years ago. Think a little bit more 175 00:11:23.600 --> 00:11:26.840 about your words, Gavin. Then he what goes on to say, 176 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:29.840 we're now in the track laying phase and building America's 177 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:32.360 only high speed rail California, putting all options on the 178 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:34.639 table to fight this illegal action. Of course it'll end 179 00:11:34.679 --> 00:11:39.200 up in court. Oh the Dot also pointed out that 180 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:42.519 they were going to pursue recovery of previously dispersed funds, 181 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:45.960 claw back what you and I have paid for so 182 00:11:46.159 --> 00:11:49.240 far on the project that hasn't or yielded any fruit 183 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:56.480 at all. In addition to canceling that four billion and 184 00:11:56.559 --> 00:12:01.919 unspent funds, Secretary Ducky Duffy directed the Rail Authority to 185 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:07.679 review other obligated and unobligated grants related to this boondoggle project. 186 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.159 Back in June, there was a three hundred page report 187 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:13.799 that was released. It looked at the project and found delays, 188 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:20.639 missed deadlines, mismanagement, waste, skyrocketing costs, budget shortfalls, and over 189 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:27.039 representation of product project ridership. Other key findings in the 190 00:12:27.039 --> 00:12:31.320 report revealed that the project faced ongoing and increasing contractor 191 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:35.559 cost overruns due to delays. That's inflation. It's called inflation. 192 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:38.240 You know you're gotta start a project today. If you 193 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:40.279 don't start it until ten years from now, guess what 194 00:12:40.440 --> 00:12:42.480 ten years from now, it's going to be more expensive 195 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:50.759 to do. Duh. Initially it was that it was sold 196 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:54.519 as a two phase what they describe as visionary system 197 00:12:54.559 --> 00:12:58.960 connecting LA at a San Francisco and then later north 198 00:12:59.039 --> 00:13:02.480 the Sacramento and south to San Diego. Boy, that was 199 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:04.600 a big project. Boy, this is going to be great 200 00:13:04.639 --> 00:13:10.279 when it gets done. Hm. That three hundred page report 201 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:13.120 pointed out there's a seven billion dollar funding gap to 202 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:20.360 complete a subset of the first phase in the Central 203 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:29.360 Valley connecting Merca to Bakersfield. Where how many riders are 204 00:13:29.399 --> 00:13:31.360 going to be on that leg if they ever built it, 205 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.480 And they have not built even part of it yet. 206 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:40.039 And since the project's inception, that grand two phase visionary 207 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:44.519 system connecting LA to San Francisco and Sacramentoo south to 208 00:13:44.559 --> 00:13:49.440 San Diego, it has been dramatically reduced the project size 209 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:52.279 from an eight hundred mile segment to a one hundred 210 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:57.120 and seventy one mile segment, again at an escalating cost, 211 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.679 now up to one hundred and thirty billion dollars and 212 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.720 again and not a single track laid. So okay, that's 213 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:04.679 why I brought it up. Four billion dollars for that 214 00:14:04.720 --> 00:14:12.440 one project funding pulled unspent nine billion dollars in the 215 00:14:12.519 --> 00:14:16.159 recision package, which I think goes to the point it 216 00:14:16.240 --> 00:14:19.639 probably could have been a lot bigger recision package. Keep 217 00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:22.679 your popcorn out and wait for Decision Package number two, 218 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:25.399 which is already being discussed five nineteen. Right now, feel 219 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:26.559 free to give me a call if you've got something 220 00:14:26.559 --> 00:14:28.080 you want to talk about. I'd love to hear from you. 221 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:30.519 I'll be right back after these words. 222 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.480 Fifty five KRC did you know even? 223 00:14:34.000 --> 00:14:34.200 Yeah? 224 00:14:37.399 --> 00:14:39.639 Five twenty three you fifty five pair CV talk station 225 00:14:39.720 --> 00:14:42.320 five one three seven nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred 226 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:53.000 eighty two three talk. Let me tell it it is 227 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:55.080 tech Priday, a day patter coming up with six thirty 228 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:57.759 a little more than an hour from now and tech 229 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:01.480 related article making the news White House to an executive 230 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:06.200 order are woke Artificial intelligence? Apparently, executive orders being prepared 231 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:11.480 to prevent tech companies from incorporating woke models into AI. 232 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:16.559 Into their AI models going after diversity, equity and inclusion 233 00:15:16.559 --> 00:15:18.639 and if is according to people familiar, the order would 234 00:15:18.639 --> 00:15:24.840 dictate that artificial intelligence companies that get federal contracts federal 235 00:15:24.840 --> 00:15:28.960 money always comes with strings attached, get used to it 236 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:31.840 requires them to be politically neutral and unbiased in their 237 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:37.360 artificial intelligence models, because, as many have noted, quite often 238 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:45.799 they reflect a very liberal bias. Will Street Journal pointing 239 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:48.120 out some of the bias that's been noted by people 240 00:15:48.159 --> 00:15:53.279 over the years, prompt responses that have angered consumers inaccurately 241 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:58.679 depicting historical figures as people of color, Google was Gemini 242 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:04.399 AI should a black join George Washington? And racially diverse Nazis? 243 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:13.919 I think we must observe they weren't. They also come 244 00:16:14.000 --> 00:16:17.879 up with fake information called hallucinations. Dave Hadters brought this 245 00:16:18.000 --> 00:16:22.039 up many times, generating wrong answers or well in site 246 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:26.679 like Creatson, for example, in legal situations creating whole cloth 247 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.919 built out of nowhere ether case law that some lawyers 248 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:33.840 have been dumb enough to actually incorporate into the briefs 249 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:37.960 before the court. Listen, my lawyer friends all know this. 250 00:16:38.559 --> 00:16:41.519 If you saw a citation, you can go and look 251 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:46.399 up the citation and see if it's really a genuine case, 252 00:16:47.080 --> 00:16:50.480 think Lexus Nexus or West Law. That's what it's for. 253 00:16:52.120 --> 00:16:54.840 Nobody keeps hard copies of books around anymore. It's all 254 00:16:54.879 --> 00:16:59.080 been boiled down and put in ones and zeros, so 255 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:01.759 anyway makes up stuff. So this is an effort to 256 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:05.119 stop that from happening. And it's presumed that the artificial 257 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:09.279 intelligence companies out there, all vying for contracts with the 258 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:14.079 federal government may follow and this executive order and create 259 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:17.519 perhaps what we could all argue is better artificial intelligence 260 00:17:17.559 --> 00:17:21.680 models that are in fact free from bias. Five twenty six. 261 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:24.440 Right now, fifty five KRC detalk stations stick around. I've 262 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:26.839 got local stories coming up. Alternatively, you know, I prefer 263 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:28.440 phone calls, so feel free to call. 264 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:33.319 Be right back fifty five KRC. Here's the what's trending next. 265 00:17:33.799 --> 00:17:36.759 Joe nine says the following about the weather this afternoon, 266 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:42.200 we got little like scattered showers are likely, said the story. 267 00:17:42.240 --> 00:17:45.200 They should clear out around four pm eighty five for 268 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:46.920 the hyge today overnight lo was seventy one with a 269 00:17:46.920 --> 00:17:51.039 slight chance of rain. We've got storms and showers tomorrow, 270 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:53.200 not in the morning, though they say it's going to 271 00:17:53.240 --> 00:17:55.559 happen after one PM eighty six for the high tomorrow 272 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:58.799 overnight loss seventy two, very human and smody. Chances of 273 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:03.039 storms Sunday, very humlett, Yes, eight chances of storms and 274 00:18:03.160 --> 00:18:05.640 down fours eighty seven to nigh on Sunday seventy three. 275 00:18:05.720 --> 00:18:09.519 Right now, time for twelve not traffic, that's the next segment. 276 00:18:10.359 --> 00:18:14.119 Gotta wait till five forty for that, Brian, don't have 277 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:17.559 to wait to go to the phones as is typically traditioned. 278 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:20.559 Tom Happy Friday, Welcome in the morning, show my friend. 279 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:22.519 Thank good morning. 280 00:18:22.559 --> 00:18:22.759 Hey. 281 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:26.559 I with working and doing everything else, I don't get 282 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:28.799 a chance to pay as much attention to things as 283 00:18:28.839 --> 00:18:31.640 I liked. Was there a follow up on that? Remember 284 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:34.400 that story? Yesterday? Right after I got off the boat. 285 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:39.279 He talked about a guy that followed some woman at 286 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:41.119 home and he had his kids in the car and 287 00:18:41.839 --> 00:18:43.640 wound up going to her house to get in a 288 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:46.079 fight with the husband or something. You remember that story? 289 00:18:46.160 --> 00:18:46.839 Oh yeah, yeah? 290 00:18:46.960 --> 00:18:49.319 Was there a follow up, like a news conference from 291 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:52.599 Claremont County or anything on that story? Because if I 292 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.359 heard the story correctly, he got separated from his kits. 293 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:59.480 Isn't that like a big deal? Isn't that like the 294 00:18:59.640 --> 00:19:01.960 worst ever, right. 295 00:19:02.799 --> 00:19:08.519 No, no, no protesters, No protesters in the street talking 296 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:10.359 about the separation of children from dad. 297 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:14.000 Now, oh, I think we ought to get something started 298 00:19:14.039 --> 00:19:15.680 at least a go bug me page. 299 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:18.920 Yeah. My recollection, my recollection of the story is that 300 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.319 his wife, the mother of the kids he had in 301 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:25.119 the car with him when he entered that home illegally, 302 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:28.799 actually helped the police arrest. 303 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:33.000 Him, met up with him at a convenience story. Yeah, 304 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:34.480 I guess she got the kids. 305 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:37.200 That's where I'm going on that one. She obviously is 306 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.440 far more responsible than he is in terms of decision making. 307 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:44.559 So yeah, where you come up with a baseless accusation 308 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:51.680 like that? Yeah, well one and the same subject, but 309 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:53.079 to switch it up a little bit. 310 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:53.400 Uh. 311 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:57.880 One of the best takedowns ever was Tom Holman and 312 00:19:58.079 --> 00:20:02.400 AOC where she's grilling him about the whole separation of 313 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:06.079 families and oh, you know all these families are being separated, 314 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:09.400 and he's talking about zero intolerance, and he basically smelled 315 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:12.480 out for, look, if I get pulled over for a 316 00:20:12.599 --> 00:20:15.680 DUI and now get arrested, I'm gonna be separated from 317 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:20.119 my children. And what happens to everybody these people a screen, 318 00:20:20.200 --> 00:20:24.559 bloody murder when normal, everyday stuff happens that what happened 319 00:20:24.559 --> 00:20:27.039 to you? And I, oh, it's happening to an immigrant. 320 00:20:27.119 --> 00:20:31.599 Oh no, it's terrible. These people are absolutely ridiculous. They 321 00:20:31.640 --> 00:20:34.599 make no sense. And then you got the senator I 322 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:37.920 forget where she's from, just recently was talking about how 323 00:20:38.079 --> 00:20:41.799 you know, the Democrats we need to we need to understand, 324 00:20:41.799 --> 00:20:44.440 we need to know where these people are coming from. Well, 325 00:20:44.440 --> 00:20:47.759 that's exactly what Republicans have been saying. And in the 326 00:20:47.759 --> 00:20:50.960 whole phase, he's like, oh, well, immigrants or Republicans are 327 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:52.559 foment to immigrant hate. 328 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:53.480 No we're not. 329 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:56.799 We're saying exactly what you were saying. It's just and 330 00:20:56.920 --> 00:21:00.000 when we say it, we're apparently hateful. And when you 331 00:21:00.119 --> 00:21:03.720 say you're altruistic and you have so much compassion and 332 00:21:03.759 --> 00:21:06.400 all that, you're full of crap? Is what's your lady? 333 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:09.440 And all Democrats are so don't vote Democrat. Have a 334 00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:10.640 great league in Bryan, you. 335 00:21:10.559 --> 00:21:12.759 Too, Tom. I always wait to see how he's going 336 00:21:12.839 --> 00:21:16.079 to ultimately arrive at his conclusion. Yeah, and Donald Trump 337 00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:19.319 lies awake at night thinking about the day when he 338 00:21:19.359 --> 00:21:23.599 can reach Barack Obama levels of deportation. I think he 339 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:25.480 was the king of deportation, at least in terms of 340 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:29.920 overall numbers of illegal immigrants deported under any administration. So yeah, 341 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.279 it's okay when Barack Obama does it, but because evil 342 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:37.319 Orange Man's behind the effort, it's now bad times. They 343 00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:42.880 are changing over the local stories. Internal email WCPO looked 344 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:46.039 into this, showing details of the Sinsini Police Department's plan 345 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:49.079 to increase its presence and over the Rhine because of 346 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:53.240 the rise and violent crime. Email apparently explains a new 347 00:21:53.279 --> 00:21:57.759 detail requiring offers to be officers to be visible on 348 00:21:58.400 --> 00:22:02.880 Vine and Main Streets from Central Parkway to Liberty Street 349 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.319 between noon and midnight. And apparently if the department doesn't 350 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.920 have enough volunteers to do this patrol, the email says 351 00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:14.079 officers will be mandated, that's the word in the email, 352 00:22:14.440 --> 00:22:17.519 to fill the shifts that on top of the regular shifts. 353 00:22:17.640 --> 00:22:20.839 FOP president Ken Kober, talking to WCPO about this, said 354 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:23.200 officers are stretched too thin right now, and adding another 355 00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:26.240 eight hours of walking outside their schedule just is probably 356 00:22:26.240 --> 00:22:28.160 not going to fly. He said, We're going past this 357 00:22:28.240 --> 00:22:30.799 is no longer a volunteer. We're going to force you 358 00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:32.680 to do this if you don't sign up and work it, 359 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:36.880 and that's where officers are saying enough is enough. He said. 360 00:22:37.559 --> 00:22:40.039 He also questioned the need in that particular area, noting 361 00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:41.799 that's not really where the bulk of the crime is 362 00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:43.480 being committed. And that's kind of what I was scratching 363 00:22:43.480 --> 00:22:46.160 my head over, especially given that the shift is noon 364 00:22:46.319 --> 00:22:50.119 to midnight. Joe, isn't it your recollection that most of 365 00:22:50.119 --> 00:22:52.519 the crimes and the murders and the assaults happen right 366 00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:54.440 around two thirty in the morning or three o'clock in 367 00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:57.759 the morning. Yeah, I mean, that's what I've been reading 368 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:02.960 for the past what months, not all of it, I'll acknowledge. 369 00:23:05.119 --> 00:23:07.079 CBO check the data showed that there have been four 370 00:23:07.079 --> 00:23:09.680 homicides in Over the Rhine this year, one in that 371 00:23:09.759 --> 00:23:13.880 patrol area, twenty nine aggravated assaults in all of Over 372 00:23:13.920 --> 00:23:16.519 the Rhine, just a handful of them in the area 373 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:19.640 of the patrol. So go ahead and scratch your head 374 00:23:19.640 --> 00:23:21.519 over that one. Data shows most violent crime and over 375 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:24.720 the Rhine is happening north of Liberty Street, so outside 376 00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:31.640 of the new patrol area. Cober says he's wondering if 377 00:23:31.680 --> 00:23:35.559 three CDC is the one behind the effort in an 378 00:23:35.559 --> 00:23:39.200 effort to protect his investments and over the Rhine organization 379 00:23:39.319 --> 00:23:42.000 owns or manages much of the property in the designated area. 380 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:48.720 When you call a shift a detail, can Cober, talking 381 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.160 with Tanya Orourke at CBO, said that means a third 382 00:23:52.279 --> 00:23:54.759 party like three CDC is footing the bill. He said, 383 00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:57.160 am I nearly twenty five years here, I have never 384 00:23:57.240 --> 00:24:00.440 heard of an instance where officers are forced to work 385 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:04.000 for a private company. So CPO pivoted over to three 386 00:24:04.039 --> 00:24:07.720 CDC's president, who said he doesn't pay for the details, 387 00:24:08.200 --> 00:24:10.640 but he does pay for details rather, but he's not 388 00:24:10.680 --> 00:24:14.359 paying for this one. Cobra estimates that it's going to 389 00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:18.400 cost about sixty thousand dollars a month. CPO talked tried 390 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:21.319 to get police chief and the city manager's office to 391 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:24.000 comment on it, but they did not receive a response 392 00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:29.880 by the time the story was reported. H five thirty six, 393 00:24:29.960 --> 00:24:32.960 Right now fifty five K see the talk station dack 394 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:35.440 oh stupid coming up or you can call either way 395 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:40.440 you go be right back fifty five. The talk station 396 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:43.119 must be five forty on a Friday, because of course, 397 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:46.920 and Joe Strecker is your executive ducer and he's a 398 00:24:46.960 --> 00:25:03.359 Primis fan. That's what you get in a very happy Friday. 399 00:24:57.200 --> 00:25:13.000 Wo segue into the stacking stupid. And it's Friday, so 400 00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:15.640 we got naked people in the stacking stupid. We'll start 401 00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:21.599 with a naked people in a stolen RV. Not Florida, 402 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:24.839 West Virginia, where a couple was naked and having sex 403 00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:27.960 in a stolen RV. Cops pulled a moving vehicle over 404 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:30.359 after a spot in the driver being straddled by his 405 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:40.119 intoxicated female passenger. During the traffic stop in Bluefield, Appalachian 406 00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:43.880 Mountain City. Patrolman approach the RV found Shannon Bryant, thirty five, 407 00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:47.119 now sitting behind the wheel. Passerby yelled out that the 408 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:50.480 occupants had switched seats before I made contact with them, 409 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:54.960 stated Officer Ham, who added that Matthew McDonald forty eight, 410 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:57.119 was the passion in the passenger seat. I inquired about 411 00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:59.440 their actions while the vehicle is in motion, Yes, said 412 00:25:59.599 --> 00:26:04.720 to it, which Miss Brian candidly responded, we were f wording. 413 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:07.200 What. 414 00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:11.119 Yeah. Of course that's not the way she phrased it. 415 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:17.880 Mister Bryant, MS, who appeared to be highly intoxicated that's 416 00:26:17.920 --> 00:26:20.960 in the report. And McDonald were ordered out of the 417 00:26:21.039 --> 00:26:23.880 RV after being read as rights. McDonald reportedly admitted that 418 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:26.319 he and Bryant were naked and attempting to engage in 419 00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:29.000 sexual activity while driving, and they switched seats upon being 420 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:32.119 spotted by the squad. Car search of the vehicle turned 421 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:36.000 up drug paraphernalia, bag containing white powdery substance and pain killers, 422 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:37.759 and broken glass pipe in the area. I think I 423 00:26:37.799 --> 00:26:41.839 read this one earlier in the week. Bryan told police 424 00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.440 that McDonald had thrown drugs from the vehicle during the 425 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:48.640 traffic stop. Vehicle check revealed the RV had been reported 426 00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:52.240 stolen from Princeton, a nearby city. The arrest of for 427 00:26:52.319 --> 00:26:55.599 indecent exposure, drug possession, DUI have possession of a stolen vehicle. 428 00:26:55.720 --> 00:26:59.200 Both have pleaded not guilty. Have extensive criminal records that 429 00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:08.440 have not been able to post bond. Okay, Florida. You 430 00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:10.240 knew Florida was going to show up here at always 431 00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:11.880 is in the news in the stack of stupid. We 432 00:27:11.920 --> 00:27:14.559 got a Florida man behind bars on a felony charge 433 00:27:14.880 --> 00:27:22.200 for a pair of Walmart sex toy thefts. What forty 434 00:27:22.279 --> 00:27:25.160 year old Jeffrey LaForge arrested Friday in a pair of 435 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:27.720 theft counts, which he's being held in lieu of a 436 00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:34.440 ten thousand dollars bond. Wow, obviously we're not in California 437 00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:36.880 on this one. Two separate occasions, police charged that he 438 00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:40.559 swiped a variety of adult toys from Walmart in South 439 00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:46.000 Pasadena and Penelas County. SETI. Store security cameras reported Lafarge 440 00:27:46.119 --> 00:27:49.359 removing items from their packaging and then leaving the Walmart 441 00:27:49.359 --> 00:27:54.039 without paying for them. The two hundred and eighty dollars 442 00:27:54.079 --> 00:27:57.279 worth of good stolen included a thirty one dollars and 443 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:04.839 forty four cent quote Tush toys close quote Hold on, 444 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:10.920 let me get a reading from Jim. You would advise 445 00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:12.279 against saying, okay, I'm not. 446 00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:12.480 Going to. 447 00:28:16.079 --> 00:28:19.519 One other I'd have valuated fourteen dollars and ninety eight cents. 448 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.839 Will not be identified by its name on the fifty 449 00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:25.440 five Caroseme Morning show even at the five o'clock hour. 450 00:28:27.519 --> 00:28:30.960 It's only fifteen dollars, Joe, And apparently they have them 451 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:41.920 at Walmart, so you know if you're interested. Also accused 452 00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:45.039 of stealing a Reese's Peanut butter ice cream. Valued at 453 00:28:45.039 --> 00:28:48.799 three dollars and ninety eight cents. And they have a 454 00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:53.079 whole list of the different sort of I guess marital 455 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:58.240 aids that he stole. There's quite a few of them, say. 456 00:28:58.279 --> 00:29:00.240 It's not clear whether the sex toys were in and 457 00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:04.799 for personal use or resale, though the lack of packaging 458 00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:08.680 might cause a perspective buyer concern that the items were used. Yes, 459 00:29:08.759 --> 00:29:10.880 he took them out of their packages before walking out 460 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:16.119 with him gross. This merchandise value less than thousand dollars 461 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:19.160 of sex toy thefts would normally be charged of misdemeanor. However, 462 00:29:19.240 --> 00:29:23.039 due to his history of multiple theft convictions, the accounts 463 00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:33.359 have been enhanced to felonies. What mean rather descriptive names 464 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:35.519 for these toys too. I might point out five forty five. 465 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:37.240 If if five cares of the talk station more stupid 466 00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:38.599 coming up, feel free to stick around. 467 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:42.079 This is fifty five krc an iHeartRadio station. 468 00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:57.680 By forty nine it's by KRCD talk station Happy Friday 469 00:29:57.680 --> 00:29:59.440 to get back over the stack is stupid? And why 470 00:29:59.480 --> 00:30:08.759 not quote to Louisiana for this one smoking gun reported 471 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.759 with no defense in hand. A man has fleeted guilty 472 00:30:12.799 --> 00:30:18.880 to an obscenity charge for pleasuring himself inside a storage 473 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.319 shed that was for sale at a Lowe's in Louisiana. 474 00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.279 Maybe a hockey player joe that is possible storage shed 475 00:30:27.319 --> 00:30:31.200 about the same size as a penalty box. Sixty six 476 00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:36.519 year old George kaliavas Mid of the fellerity charge during 477 00:30:36.519 --> 00:30:39.680 a district court hearing. He was locked up on a 478 00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:42.799 fifteen thousand dollars bail after his mail eleventh rest at 479 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:46.920 the Lowe's outlet in Slidel released from custody after his 480 00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:53.480 July fourteenth guilty plea. As detailed in the police department report, 481 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.880 cops responded to the home improvement store upon receiving a 482 00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:58.160 nine to one one call from a store manager about, 483 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:03.039 in quotes, a mail subject naked inside a shed for 484 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:09.119 sale at the Loewe's parking Lot phrasing. During a canvas 485 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:12.000 of this various storage sheds located in the Loew's parking lot, 486 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:17.240 Officer Brian LeBlanc discovered Calivius Quote lying in a soupine 487 00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:20.279 position on the floor of the shed beneath the window. 488 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.880 Pants and underwear were at his ankles, and he was 489 00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:31.839 using his left hand to touch his exposed private parts. 490 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.759 Why are you doing that? Le Blank noted that there 491 00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.599 was an open tube of vaciline petroleum jelly to the 492 00:31:43.599 --> 00:31:47.359 immediate left of Calebas's person that's in the rest report. 493 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.079 In the report, it also says he was watching an 494 00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.839 unknown video on his cellular phone and he had headphones 495 00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.640 in his ears. After being handcuffed and his riots, he 496 00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.279 advised that he had been well pleasuring himself. Not his words. 497 00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.799 He was a little bit more graphic inside the enclosure, 498 00:32:07.839 --> 00:32:10.279 one of multiple sheds Lows had on display for sale 499 00:32:10.319 --> 00:32:13.279 while customers are free to browse the shed. That was 500 00:32:13.319 --> 00:32:17.000 noted in the arrest report. He had no reasonable expectation 501 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:29.640 of privacy in the shed. Wow, Yeah, I don't know 502 00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.000 what the clean up situation involved, Joe. There was no 503 00:32:32.400 --> 00:32:38.160 comment on that from the Lows personnel. Forty six year 504 00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:40.359 old man taking it into custody after an alleged assault 505 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:43.559 and failed to escape attempt were in Sumter Counting, South 506 00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.920 Carolina for this one, where deputies say that Kelly Jack 507 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.599 Brielan was found naked in a tree after reportedly assaulting 508 00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.759 someone at a home ten minutes after two am Wednesday. 509 00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:57.319 Deputies responded to the residents after reports of an assault. 510 00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.839 Witnesses say he became violent and assaulted a before leaving 511 00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:04.839 the house completely naked. After a short search, deputies located 512 00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:08.200 him in the aforementioned tree. Rested charge with a second 513 00:33:08.200 --> 00:33:10.720 degree assault and battery, as well as third degree domestic violence. 514 00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.640 Taken to the Sheriff's office detention center, being held on 515 00:33:13.680 --> 00:33:25.039 a twenty five thousand dollars bond. Obviously not in Hamilton County. Asheville, 516 00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:28.279 North Carolina, man arrested for running naked around the West 517 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:31.039 Ashville neighborhood and attempting to break into at least one 518 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.079 home has pleaded guilty. Why are you doing that? Let's 519 00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:36.599 find out maybe. Back in August, the twenty three officers 520 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:39.640 with the Ashville Police Department dispatched at Madeleine Avenue. Homeowners 521 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:42.640 reported hearing a man yelling in their next door neighbors 522 00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:46.640 fenced in backyard. They said that after directing two young 523 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:49.680 children inside their home, the residents said the naked man 524 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.119 jumped over the fence into their yard and attempted the 525 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.599 ender the side door of the house, but arrival police 526 00:33:55.640 --> 00:33:58.759 later found the naked guy, identified as Ronald Jamal Billings, 527 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:03.440 inside a home that was under construction Billings originally charged 528 00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:07.359 with felony indecent exposure, misdemeanor decent exposure, felony breaking, rendering 529 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:11.639 with intent to terrorize, misdemeanor breaking and entering injury to 530 00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:16.239 personal property, first degree trespassing, and resisting slash delay, slash obstructing. 531 00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:19.760 In the plea deal, however, he pleaded guilty of the 532 00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:23.760 misdemeanor indecent exposure and resisting public off a public officer, 533 00:34:23.880 --> 00:34:30.119 sentenced to forty five days served. Notably a neck tattoo guy. 534 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:33.079 And finally, we'll end in Englewood, Florida, where a man 535 00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:36.960 completely naked arrested Saturday in Englewood after being accused of 536 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:41.639 charging at a deputy and threatening others. Charlotte County Sheriff's 537 00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:43.719 Office said they responded to the area of Placida Road 538 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:47.559 on reports of a naked guy in public, yelling profanities 539 00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:49.199 and threatening to harm. A woman who happened to be 540 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:53.280 carrying a baby. Showed up found the forty year old 541 00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.920 Justin Grover Miller, completely naked and yelling at Unknone. Suspects 542 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:00.960 refused to acknowledge the deputies adhere to their command. Ignoring deputies, 543 00:35:01.000 --> 00:35:03.800 he continued to walk through a public park towards Santa 544 00:35:03.920 --> 00:35:08.440 Caslor Drive. Miller then ran towards a Dollar General in 545 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:11.159 the area. When he observed deputies approaching. They followed him 546 00:35:11.159 --> 00:35:13.760 into the store and tased him twice after he failed 547 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:17.559 to follow verbal commands. He did manage to escape and 548 00:35:17.559 --> 00:35:21.079 began running through the Dollar General parking lot, exposing himselself 549 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:24.800 completely to other patrons, as well as children in the area. 550 00:35:26.639 --> 00:35:29.280 That time, Miller charged directly toward the deputies on the 551 00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:33.639 scene and forcibly ran through the officer. He was ultimately 552 00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:37.440 taken into custody for resisting with violence, batteran law enforcement officer, 553 00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:43.880 and exposure of sexual organs to the public. Five fifteen 554 00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.199 fifty five k see de talk station. All I got 555 00:35:47.239 --> 00:35:48.800 that out of our system. It's going to be a 556 00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:50.719 tech Friday with Dave pat at six thirty. More to 557 00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.400 talk about between now and then Donald Trump threatening to 558 00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.519 sue the Wall Street Journal of All Papers. We'll get 559 00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:59.159 to that and other stories if you can stick around 560 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.360 Today's top stories at the top of the hour. 561 00:36:03.519 --> 00:36:05.000 It's information that matters to me. 562 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.880 Fifty five krs the talk station. 563 00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:11.760 Are you having trouble hearing books? 564 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:12.000 So? 565 00:36:12.079 --> 00:36:14.519 Six f fifty fouve Ker Ceedee talk station by the 566 00:36:14.559 --> 00:36:17.199 timas right here, wishing everyone a very appy Friday. And 567 00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.800 I've got some great plans going on this weekend. Hey, 568 00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:21.679 and you can call five one three, seven four nine 569 00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:23.719 fifty five hundred, eight hundred eight two three talk time 570 00:36:23.800 --> 00:36:25.440 five fifty on eight and T phone coming up. It 571 00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:28.480 is Friday, six thirty. Every Friday, Tech Friday's Day. Hatter. 572 00:36:29.239 --> 00:36:33.079 Think twice before you unsubscribe. Topic one, Topic two. North 573 00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:38.199 Koreans have secured remote jobs in United States companies work 574 00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.800 from home, even if you're halfway around the world. Google 575 00:36:41.079 --> 00:36:45.320 is reading your WhatsApp instant messages as well. Fast forward 576 00:36:45.360 --> 00:36:48.000 to seven thirty with the return of our resident German 577 00:36:48.119 --> 00:36:50.679 expert Don Heinrich Toltzman. A new book is out. I 578 00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:54.239 Am Innocent. He is the editor of the book. It's 579 00:36:54.280 --> 00:37:00.000 an autobiography of Bruno Richard Hautman, who is the journey 580 00:37:00.079 --> 00:37:02.960 An immigrant who was accused, tried, and convicted of kidnapping 581 00:37:03.079 --> 00:37:09.079 and murdering Charles Lindberg Junior, the baby. You may remember 582 00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:13.760 that from your history books. In studio, retired detective Jim 583 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:15.559 Grindall He'll joined the program at eight o five to 584 00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:19.599 talk about his new book, Homicide Investigation. He spent a 585 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:22.079 whole career at the spring Down Police Department, and he's 586 00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.760 written a book about one of his experiences there. He's 587 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.159 also writing another true crime book that has not yet 588 00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.880 been released, but I'm sure that Jim will be happy 589 00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:31.360 to give us some of the details about that in 590 00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:33.800 the eight o'clock hour. And again you can, of course 591 00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:38.400 feel free to call in a sort of a strange twist. 592 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:41.760 And I still haven't quite made heads or tail out 593 00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:45.840 of this. Donald Trump called to release, in his words, 594 00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:52.360 all pertinent grand jury testimony regarding Jeffrey Epstein. This after 595 00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.639 this high profile craziness that's been going on, of course, 596 00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.880 the reversal of the promise that we were going to 597 00:37:58.960 --> 00:38:01.199 get the documents and wait a minute, there's nothing here. 598 00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:03.840 There is no file, there is no list, We've got nothing. 599 00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:06.480 And that sounds kind of strange coming from the Trump administration. 600 00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:10.079 Who's many of the Trump supporters are claiming all kinds 601 00:38:10.119 --> 00:38:15.119 of conspiracy theories or at least asking for the answer 602 00:38:15.239 --> 00:38:18.960 to many questions that are looming out there. Like I 603 00:38:19.079 --> 00:38:23.039 said yesterday, based on the ridiculous amount of publicity given 604 00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:25.239 to Jeffrey Epstein. I've asked Atorney General Pan Bondi to 605 00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:28.079 produce any and all pertinent grand jury testimony, subject to 606 00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:34.039 court approval. This scam all caps perpetrated by Democrats should 607 00:38:34.199 --> 00:38:38.880 end right now, Bondi in her response, President Trump, we 608 00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:42.239 are ready to move the court tomorrow to unseal the 609 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:44.159 grand jury transcripts. 610 00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:46.800 Now. 611 00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:53.639 This, oddly enough, probably leading to more speculation and conspiracy theories, 612 00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:58.920 coincides with The Wall Street Journal publishing the reports that 613 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:03.639 Donald Trump signed a card. I think it was related 614 00:39:03.639 --> 00:39:06.599 to Epstein's fiftieth birthday. This is many years before he 615 00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:11.199 was accused of, tried and convicted of well molesting children 616 00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.000 two thousand. Yeah, go way back to two thousand and 617 00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:17.199 three for this one. Although Donald Trump denies that it's his, 618 00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:22.480 so he says he's prepared a lawsuit against Wall Street Journal. Quote. 619 00:39:22.480 --> 00:39:25.199 The Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch personally were warned 620 00:39:25.320 --> 00:39:28.360 directly by President Donald J. Trump that the supposed letter 621 00:39:28.519 --> 00:39:31.920 they printed by President Trump to Epstein was a fake 622 00:39:32.639 --> 00:39:36.599 and if they printed, they will be sued. Mister Murdock 623 00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:38.800 stated that he would take care of it, but obviously 624 00:39:38.960 --> 00:39:40.880 did not have the power to do so. The editor 625 00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:43.599 of Wall Street Journal. Emma Tucker was told directly by 626 00:39:43.719 --> 00:39:46.559 Carolyn Levitt and by President Trump that the letter was 627 00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:49.599 a fake, but Emma Tucker didn't want to hear that. Instead, 628 00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:56.400 they're going with false, malicious and defamatory story. Anyway, press 629 00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:58.280 has to learn to be truthful and not rely on 630 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:03.800 sources that probably don't even exist. Also called the Wall 631 00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:09.039 Street Journal a disgusting and filthy rag. If there were 632 00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:12.000 any truth to all at all on the Epstein hoax, 633 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:14.800 as it pertains the President Trump, this information would have 634 00:40:14.840 --> 00:40:18.360 been revealed by Comy Brennan, Crooked Hillary, and other radical 635 00:40:18.400 --> 00:40:20.719 left lunatics years ago. Now that I think that is 636 00:40:20.800 --> 00:40:25.840 a valid point. I mean they actually went out of 637 00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:29.880 a limb and made stuff up whole cloth about Trump 638 00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:32.360 and then went immediately to the press with for your 639 00:40:32.440 --> 00:40:36.360 quote unquote leaks from inside confidential sources or well, here's 640 00:40:36.400 --> 00:40:40.840 the Steele dossier, which ultimately was leaked and it was fake. 641 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.079 So there is a precedent for Donald Trump calling this 642 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:53.119 card a fake, and that's what the Wall Street Journal 643 00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.280 reported on. Now, I didn't see a photograph or a 644 00:40:58.400 --> 00:41:01.800 shot of the card, but apparently there's an outline he 645 00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.880 made it a sort of a not an obscene gesture, 646 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:07.760 but it was an outline of a naked woman. And 647 00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:10.960 it's a happy birthday, and may every day be another 648 00:41:11.199 --> 00:41:15.159 wonderful secret was scrawled down there. The letter bears Trump's name, 649 00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:20.480 several typewritten texts framed by the outline of a naked woman. 650 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:24.960 Trump said, that isn't anything he would ever say, and 651 00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:27.360 he has never drawn a picture of a naked woman ever. 652 00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:31.880 So you have a precedent for the Democrats lying and 653 00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:35.639 making things up. You have Donald Trump reversing on the 654 00:41:35.719 --> 00:41:38.039 release of the Epstein documents. Now he's calling for the 655 00:41:38.079 --> 00:41:41.039 release of the grand jury testimony. That's, I guess, part 656 00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:45.159 of the total package of information, which is does anybody 657 00:41:45.199 --> 00:41:46.719 else perceive that as a one hundred and eighty degree 658 00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:48.599 shift from where he was just the other day calling 659 00:41:48.679 --> 00:41:51.840 this all nonsense and made up and telling his supporters 660 00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.760 to quit, just drop the whole thing, generally speaking, because 661 00:41:54.760 --> 00:41:55.679 there's nothing there. 662 00:41:57.119 --> 00:41:57.199 Now. 663 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:00.079 Certain Trump detractors will say no, the only reason and 664 00:42:00.159 --> 00:42:02.199 he did that and changed gears and went down that 665 00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:05.840 roads because well, among the documents was this birthday card 666 00:42:05.880 --> 00:42:08.800 from two thousand and three, which contains a picture a 667 00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:11.679 drawn image of a naked woman and happy birthday, and 668 00:42:11.800 --> 00:42:15.039 may every day be another wonderful secret. God knows what 669 00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:21.280 that's supposed to even mean. JD. Van, for his part, 670 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.880 also criticized the Wall Street Journal forgive my language, but 671 00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:28.360 this story is complete and other bs. He didn't say 672 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:30.599 bs he wrote out the whole word. The Wall Street 673 00:42:30.679 --> 00:42:33.280 Journal should be a shamed for publishing it. Where is 674 00:42:33.480 --> 00:42:36.320 this letter? He asked, Would you be shocked to learn 675 00:42:36.400 --> 00:42:38.719 that they never showed it to us before publishing it? 676 00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:42.519 Does anyone honestly believe this sounds like Donald Trump? Well, 677 00:42:43.960 --> 00:42:46.599 I'm sure there are people who believe it does sound 678 00:42:46.719 --> 00:42:48.679 like Donald Trump. There's a lot of people out there 679 00:42:48.760 --> 00:42:51.440 that hate scuts and believe literally anything out there. So 680 00:42:51.559 --> 00:42:57.039 we're kind of left to wonder. And in the final analysis, 681 00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:59.239 I just say, gal, find you're gonna release the grandjury 682 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.599 testimone really everything else that is unless and no one 683 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:10.119 has answered this question, are they're currently ongoing investigations into 684 00:43:10.199 --> 00:43:14.320 people who hung out with Epstein that molested young women 685 00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.199 broke the law in doing so. If those investigations are 686 00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:24.760 going on, that would provide the absolute prevention of the 687 00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:27.000 release of the document to the extents it relates to 688 00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:31.079 the prosecution or the investigations of potential criminal activity, that'd 689 00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:33.239 be a legitimate reason not to bring it out. You 690 00:43:33.320 --> 00:43:36.360 could say that out loud. I know the Department of 691 00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:40.559 Justice doesn't comment on ongoing investigations, but under the circumstances, 692 00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:43.880 it seems like an appropriate time to say, no, we 693 00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:48.360 have some pending criminal investigations. We're not going to daim 694 00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.119 names that are ongoing. But the documents in these so 695 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:55.559 called Epstein files that aren't released do relate to those investigations, 696 00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:58.760 and as a consequence, can't be released because they might 697 00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:02.880 interfere with the investigation. That's a perfectly legitimate claim to assert, 698 00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:06.440 but it hasn't been asserted, and that's one of the 699 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.320 looming questions many people have out there. Listen, this guy 700 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:12.639 was involved, and everyone knows it knows, notably because he 701 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.079 was convicted of it, but continue to be involved with 702 00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:19.119 fooling around with underage women, and he hung out with 703 00:44:19.159 --> 00:44:21.000 a lot of people, and a lot of them. There's 704 00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.440 victims list. There's people who've come forward and said they 705 00:44:23.480 --> 00:44:27.400 were victims of Epstein molesting them and victims of others 706 00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:31.480 molesting them. Members of the royal family included, right, are 707 00:44:31.519 --> 00:44:42.440 they going to be brought to justice? Just asking, I'd 708 00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:48.000 like to think so, or I'd like to get the 709 00:44:48.079 --> 00:44:51.480 definitive answer that no, all of this was blown out 710 00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.239 of proportion. But at least in so far as Trump 711 00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:57.000 is concerned. He did make a great point, and that is, 712 00:44:57.599 --> 00:45:01.719 if this actually exist, if this was a real thing, 713 00:45:01.920 --> 00:45:05.480 this letter that he allegedly penned him to Jeffrey Epstein, 714 00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:08.599 then yes, it certainly would have been brought up by 715 00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:14.320 the Left. I can't imagine them passing on an opportunity 716 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:18.599 if it's a genuine document, unlike the Steele dossier, which 717 00:45:18.679 --> 00:45:23.440 they they held up and waved around and claimed as 718 00:45:23.599 --> 00:45:29.239 genuine for years. That was whole cloth made up. But 719 00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:31.679 if his card was actually in there, and it actually 720 00:45:31.800 --> 00:45:34.440 was done by Donald Trump, they certainly would have brought 721 00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:38.119 it up, unless, of course, the other conspiracy theory is 722 00:45:38.199 --> 00:45:40.639 that no, they couldn't bring it up because filled within 723 00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:43.320 the among the Epstein documents, let's just call him a 724 00:45:43.360 --> 00:45:46.440 bunch of banker's box lit of documents, there's damning evidence 725 00:45:46.480 --> 00:45:48.719 against Democrats, in which case it would have been worth 726 00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:51.840 their time to bring up that one document, because then 727 00:45:51.880 --> 00:45:54.119 we'd all be clamoring and calling for more documents to 728 00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:57.800 be released, which might implicate Democrats. But see, all this 729 00:45:57.960 --> 00:46:04.199 comes about because we can't see them. 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Sunday night at seven pm on fifty 749 00:47:03.559 --> 00:47:12.280 five KRC, the talk station channel nine says the following 750 00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:15.440 about the weather. We've got some scattered showers and storms today. 751 00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:18.559 Eighty five for the high, down to seventy one overnight, 752 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.559 with a slight chance of rain and storms continuing tomorrow. 753 00:47:23.159 --> 00:47:24.920 Glow chance rain in the morning, better chance in the 754 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:27.960 afternoon coming around one pm. Eighty six for the high Tomorrow, 755 00:47:28.039 --> 00:47:31.360 be cloudy, very humid overnight chances of showers and storms 756 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:33.880 of course. Seventy two for the low, and another humid 757 00:47:33.960 --> 00:47:36.559 day on Sunday with a chance of showers in the storms. 758 00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:40.679 Eighty seven will be the high seventy four degrees. Right now, 759 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:42.360 it's time for a traffic update. 760 00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:48.559 Or not. 761 00:47:51.079 --> 00:48:02.880 Sometimes that happens, David hundred four eight hundred eight two 762 00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:05.960 three talk don't know, but David is excited about that 763 00:48:06.119 --> 00:48:09.920 number is the prior one. Let us see here. Donald 764 00:48:09.920 --> 00:48:12.440 Trump's getting some I've work done. He had an executive 765 00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.320 quarterback in January regarding gender related surgery and treatment of 766 00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:18.719 miners in hospitals with hormone replacement therapy. The therapy the 767 00:48:18.800 --> 00:48:23.440 Protecting Children from Chemical and Surgical Mutilation that he signed 768 00:48:23.519 --> 00:48:27.360 January twenty eighth of this year, stating the administration will 769 00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:30.599 not fund, sponsored, promote, assist, or support so called transition 770 00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:32.639 of a child from one sex to another, and that 771 00:48:32.719 --> 00:48:35.760 will rigorously enforce all laws that prohibit or limit these 772 00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:40.880 destructive and life threatening procedures patients nineteen and under. Chemical 773 00:48:40.920 --> 00:48:44.480 and surgical surgical mutilation includes the use of pubity blockers, 774 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:48.000 sex hormones, and surgical procedures. That's a cord to the 775 00:48:48.119 --> 00:48:50.039 order that you can see on the White House web page. 776 00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:54.840 Attorney General Pamela Bond He said, medical professionals and organizations 777 00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:57.599 that mutilated children in the service of a warped ideology 778 00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:01.079 will be held accountable by this Department of Justice. Well, 779 00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:06.400 apparently it's working. Fox reporting the hospitals now are not 780 00:49:06.679 --> 00:49:10.760 providing this so called gender affirming care for youth patients 781 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:13.280 in accordance with the executive order. Go to Russia Medical 782 00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:18.159 Center in Chicago announced it it is stopping the treatments. 783 00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:24.559 Spokesperson for Rush Klinger said that it has paused hormonal 784 00:49:24.639 --> 00:49:27.719 therapies for new patients under the age of eighteen. Although 785 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.280 apparently adults can continue to be eligible for the treatments, 786 00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:34.440 and miners who are already receiving these so called gender 787 00:49:34.559 --> 00:49:37.639 related gender affirming care treatments will continue to get them. 788 00:49:38.719 --> 00:49:45.400 HMM Department of Justices earlier this month announced that it 789 00:49:45.559 --> 00:49:48.679 issued more than twenty subpoenas the doctors and clinics involved 790 00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:53.360 in performing these procedures. New York Presbyterian also removed and 791 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:57.360 changing even its online verbage of the COMPASS program, described 792 00:49:57.360 --> 00:50:01.599 previously as a safe space for youth navigating their gender 793 00:50:01.840 --> 00:50:07.960 experience and offering puberty suppression and gender affirming hormone treatment. 794 00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:12.159 Now they described the program as a supportive space for 795 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:17.000 youth and gender Any references to gender affirming care have 796 00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:22.880 been taken off New York Presbyterian's website, and their spokesperson said, 797 00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.559 we continue to work through this evolving situation to comply 798 00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:28.239 with applicable state and federal laws and rags as always 799 00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:30.679 our priorities to serve all of our patients in compassionate 800 00:50:30.719 --> 00:50:37.159 and responsible way. Stanford Medicine halted their quote gender affirming surgeries, 801 00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:41.159 according to their statement, after careful review of the latest 802 00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:44.280 actions and directives from the federal government. Donald Trump and 803 00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:49.400 following consultations with clinical leadership, including our multidisciplinary LGBTQ plus 804 00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:54.519 program and its providers, Stanford paused providing gender related surgical 805 00:50:54.559 --> 00:50:57.440 procedures as part of our comprehensive range of medical services 806 00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.559 for LGBTQ plus patients and under the age of nineteen, 807 00:51:01.239 --> 00:51:05.159 effective June second of this year. Cleveland Clinic also said 808 00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.599 it does not provide gender firming treatments to patients of 809 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.599 the age of nineteen. So it's a growing trend, folks, 810 00:51:11.480 --> 00:51:13.079 And this is, of course a trend that's been growing 811 00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:14.960 for a long time. Over in Europe. Quite a few 812 00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.800 countries have banned this. It's outright malpractice. They determined it 813 00:51:18.920 --> 00:51:23.159 doesn't do any good for these In fact, researchers determined 814 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:28.079 that the rate of depression, anxiety, suicidal ideation, and substance 815 00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:33.239 use disorders were in the studies words, significantly higher among 816 00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:39.599 those with gender dysphoria who underwent surgery, which is a 817 00:51:39.639 --> 00:51:43.320 way of saying the surgery actually exacerbates the problem. And 818 00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:49.400 that seems totally logical and reasonable to me. Now you're 819 00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:53.639 suffering from gender dicephia, you really really really want to 820 00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:55.960 be a woman. If you're a guy or of course 821 00:51:56.039 --> 00:52:01.880 a guy, if you're a woman, surgery is not going 822 00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:07.920 to accomplish that. It's recreating or creating from whole cloth 823 00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:13.840 genitals that didn't previously exist. And to the extent anyone 824 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:16.239 has an expectation that they are going to perform and 825 00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:24.400 function the way that biological men and women's genitals function 826 00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:29.000 is completely duped. Go ahead and read into that. The 827 00:52:29.119 --> 00:52:33.880 complications associated with sewing something on or turning something inside 828 00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:37.679 out are unbelievable, and yeah, I can imagine that might 829 00:52:37.800 --> 00:52:42.800 cause you the suicidal ideation, significant anxiety, and also compound 830 00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:45.400 any substance use disorders that you might have if you 831 00:52:45.519 --> 00:52:48.360 go through and get the surgery. Wait a second, did 832 00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:51.880 not accomplish what I really truly wanted it to accomplish, 833 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:58.599 which is functionality. Six twenty five the five k se 834 00:52:58.719 --> 00:53:01.480 detalk station. Away from that, we'll get the Tech Friday 835 00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:06.079 coming up next. An apologies to segue from that to 836 00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.440 Gate of Heaven Cemetery. My friends over at Gate of Heaven. 837 00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:12.079 You know, this is just timing is everything, and maybe 838 00:53:12.199 --> 00:53:15.079 slightly poor timing, but Gate of Heaven Cemetery is truly 839 00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:17.360 a beautiful and tranquil place, and it's kind of the 840 00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:20.480 point of it. Yes, you can be buried there eternal 841 00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:23.199 life at Gate of Heaven Cemetery, but they like you 842 00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:25.840 to think more comprehensively about the grounds there. They keep 843 00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:31.079 them so meticulously maintained. There's beautiful walking paths, gorgeous flowers, landscaping. 844 00:53:31.679 --> 00:53:35.840 They invite you to sort of reflect on the quality, 845 00:53:36.039 --> 00:53:41.519 value and meaning of life generally birth life, smilestones and 846 00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:43.679 of course passing on to eternal life. Gate of Heaven 847 00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:46.599 recognizes and revers the sacredness of every phase of the 848 00:53:46.679 --> 00:53:50.079 human journey. So take them up on their offering. Head on, 849 00:53:50.199 --> 00:53:55.280 ind prayer, pray, reflect, remember, meditate in that gorgeous, gorgeous environment. 850 00:53:55.400 --> 00:53:57.880 To learn more, go to the website. It's Gateoheaven dot org. 851 00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:02.239 It's gateof Heaven dot org. Fifty five KRC dot com 852 00:54:02.639 --> 00:54:05.239 Summer is here six thirty on a Friday. 853 00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:06.039 It is that time. 854 00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.239 I look forward to this every week. Brought to you 855 00:54:09.360 --> 00:54:12.119 by Intrust. It the best in the business when it 856 00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.440 comes to your business. Computing needs, best practices getting you 857 00:54:15.480 --> 00:54:19.079 out of problems, preventing problems. Interest id dot coms where 858 00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:21.159 you find them business careers is they are the best 859 00:54:21.199 --> 00:54:24.400 in the business and leading up the group. There Tech 860 00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:26.760 Friday's Dave Hatter. Welcome back, Dave. It's always great, heavy 861 00:54:26.840 --> 00:54:27.239 on the show. 862 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:30.880 Always my pleasure, Brian. Happy to be here and hopefully 863 00:54:30.920 --> 00:54:34.880 we're doing some useful stuff out there, making people best safer. 864 00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:38.039 All right, Puzzled by the headline of the first subject matter, 865 00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:42.559 think twice before you unsubscribe. I mean, I thought the 866 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.320 biggest problem with unsubscribing is it's making it so difficult 867 00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:47.960 to even accomplish unsubscribing from something. 868 00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:51.639 Yeah, well that's a good point, Brian. And you know, 869 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:53.599 in the business, we call that a dark pattern, and 870 00:54:53.679 --> 00:54:56.440 you see those everywhere because in so many instances, these 871 00:54:56.519 --> 00:55:00.480 companies are making enormous money monetizing your data, so they 872 00:55:00.519 --> 00:55:03.559 don't want you to unsubscribe. They want to make things 873 00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.480 as sticky as possible in terms of the consumption of them, 874 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:08.000 and then as difficult as. 875 00:55:07.960 --> 00:55:08.639 Possible to leave. 876 00:55:08.719 --> 00:55:10.679 So again, if you hear the term dark pattern, that's 877 00:55:10.719 --> 00:55:13.480 what they're talking about. This is a little more nefarious though, 878 00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:15.960 and it relies on something you and I have talked 879 00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:19.440 about so many times, which is fishing and spoofing. So 880 00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:21.880 I know when people hear all these terms are like 881 00:55:21.960 --> 00:55:23.679 now what does that really mean? So spoofing is the 882 00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:27.800 idea that virtually anything that's digital, an entire website, an email, 883 00:55:27.880 --> 00:55:31.800 a text message now thanks to AI, video, audio, etc. 884 00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:36.400 Can be boofed. Right, it's bogus, it's not legitimate. And 885 00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:38.559 then you know, I think everyone knows what fishing is, 886 00:55:38.639 --> 00:55:40.719 whether it's an email or a text or phone call 887 00:55:40.840 --> 00:55:43.440 or whatever. And there are some slight distinction in the 888 00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:46.599 specific technical names, but you know, phishing, I'm going to 889 00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.000 send stuff out hopefully find someone who'll bite on it 890 00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:52.519 if you uses spoofing. And in this case, what they're 891 00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:56.320 doing is, at best you get an email or some 892 00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:58.599 message that says, hey, if you don't want this anymore, 893 00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:04.280 unsubscribed it best. It's not really yeah, it's not really nefarious. 894 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:06.719 It's just a way for them to know you're there. 895 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:07.639 Right sure. 896 00:56:07.719 --> 00:56:12.000 The more nefarious part though, is it's a completely spoofed message, 897 00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.800 and that unsubscribed link or button is actually either a 898 00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.119 way to ask you to log in and steal your 899 00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:23.760 username of password, yeah, a credential, or it tries to 900 00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:26.480 download some kind of now where keystrokelogg or ransomware or 901 00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:27.320 something to your device. 902 00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:29.440 So well, wait a second, let me let me let 903 00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:32.840 me poke a hole in this for a second. Given 904 00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:39.320 how difficult it is to unsubscribe, how likely is it 905 00:56:39.480 --> 00:56:42.920 that any of these organizations or entities with whom you 906 00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:46.639 have a subscription or a former relationship, how likely is 907 00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:49.079 that they would actually give you the opportunity to make 908 00:56:49.119 --> 00:56:50.719 it easy for you to unsubscribe. 909 00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:55.559 Yeah, most of them don't now, But that said, you know, 910 00:56:55.719 --> 00:57:00.159 for actual legitimate organizations, Let's say iHeartMedia for example, right, 911 00:57:00.280 --> 00:57:02.119 maybe you download their app, you sign up for a 912 00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:04.400 mail list, and somewhere along the way you get tired 913 00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.159 of the emails you decide to unsubscribe. This is a 914 00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.639 legitimate organization. You know, they can Spam Act, which is 915 00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.679 a law that tries to regulate and control spam, which 916 00:57:13.760 --> 00:57:16.519 obviously isn't working very good. As I'm sure everyone could agree, 917 00:57:17.239 --> 00:57:21.360 you know, requires you know certain things of legitimate companies, 918 00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:25.320 so you know, you can legitimately unsubscribe from some mail 919 00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:27.360 list if you're dealing with a legitimate company. But to 920 00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.480 your point, companies don't want you to unsubscribe. They often 921 00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:33.719 make it tricky, and the real bottom line is by 922 00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.440 using the unsubscribed feature of something that you are not 923 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:39.440 unless you have like a ninety nine percent conference level. 924 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:42.480 It's real. By using that unsubscribed link. Again, at best, 925 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.320 you've just told someone there is a warm body here, 926 00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:48.000 and at worst it might be a thinly veiled attempt 927 00:57:48.079 --> 00:57:51.280 to get you to do some of the farious or 928 00:57:51.360 --> 00:57:53.800 something that will lead to the farious activity in your name. 929 00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:56.599 So my advice would be, since it's hard to tell 930 00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:01.480 when the spooky keeps improving, don't bother unsubscribing. Simply if 931 00:58:01.679 --> 00:58:04.440 you wonder if truly unsubscribe, you go to the organization 932 00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:07.639 that's sending you the emails, go to their website, unsubscribe 933 00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:10.000 for whatever you need to do from their website, or 934 00:58:10.079 --> 00:58:12.920 simply just start blocking the mails, right, Just tell it, 935 00:58:13.079 --> 00:58:15.719 Tell your mail client this is spam, send it to 936 00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:18.239 junk block it, and then you won't see them anymore. 937 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:21.280 So sadly, Brian, this is just another example of how 938 00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.880 creative these people are and how they will leverage legitimate 939 00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:27.679 concepts to defraud you in some way. 940 00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:33.960 Yeah again, I suppose you today it's like one of 941 00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:36.719 those count to ten moments when you encounter anything like this, 942 00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:41.000 you know, be very start on the unjaded, cynical and 943 00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:46.159 suspicious and start with a position that it's probably not real. 944 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:49.280 And then that's a smart approach. 945 00:58:49.519 --> 00:58:54.039 Yeah, and then, as always, go to the original website. 946 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.079 You've offered that advice so many times, that's why I'm 947 00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:57.840 repeating it. It's like I can't believe no one has 948 00:58:57.840 --> 00:59:00.599 gotten the message yet never ever, ever, opt break through 949 00:59:00.719 --> 00:59:04.239 whatever you have gotten unsolicited. If it sounds like a 950 00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.960 good idea, like yeah, I really did want to unsubscribe 951 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.039 to Amazon, then go to Amazon dot com and accomplish that. 952 00:59:11.719 --> 00:59:14.559 That's exactly right. Go to Amazon dot com, log into 953 00:59:14.599 --> 00:59:17.639 your account, find your communication settings or whatever they call it, 954 00:59:18.119 --> 00:59:21.239 and start unsubscribing from those things. But you know, you're 955 00:59:21.280 --> 00:59:23.480 exactly right. Sadly, we are in a world today where 956 00:59:23.519 --> 00:59:26.039 it's very easy to spew something and as a result, 957 00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:28.920 and distribute it at mass to large numbers of people. 958 00:59:29.039 --> 00:59:31.280 So it's never been more important to have a healthy 959 00:59:31.320 --> 00:59:34.119 dose of skepticism to be aware of these kind of scams. 960 00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:36.840 So I'm glad you guys picked this story. And then yeah, 961 00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:41.119 take it breath, move cautiously. Understand that much of what 962 00:59:41.239 --> 00:59:44.599 you're getting, maybe most of it some people, it's some 963 00:59:44.840 --> 00:59:45.440 kind of scam. 964 00:59:46.920 --> 00:59:49.280 Yeah, I know, there are people out there that think 965 00:59:49.280 --> 00:59:51.400 I'm ignoring them to the extent you sent me something 966 00:59:51.519 --> 00:59:53.480 legitimate and I haven't clicked on it. Sorry, you just 967 00:59:53.559 --> 00:59:57.199 caught up in the web of my uh distrust of 968 00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:58.199 everything out there. 969 00:59:58.760 --> 00:59:59.039 Mom. 970 01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:03.079 Hey, Dave Sex forty to pick about kircd talks station 971 01:00:03.280 --> 01:00:05.559 intrust dot com, where you find Dave had Or and 972 01:00:05.599 --> 01:00:08.239 the crew help your business with all their computer related meats. 973 01:00:08.880 --> 01:00:11.280 Sponsoring the segment. I appreciate this segment very much. We 974 01:00:11.400 --> 01:00:13.079 learn a lot and if you listen to Dave how Ter, 975 01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:15.599 you'll stay out of trouble. Hey, real quick, Dave, before 976 01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:17.840 we get to the North Koreans doing remote work for 977 01:00:18.039 --> 01:00:20.679 US companies, frightenings that may be. It made me think 978 01:00:20.719 --> 01:00:23.639 about the most recent legislation in the budget, which is 979 01:00:23.679 --> 01:00:26.719 going to ban pornography without proper ID checks here in 980 01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:30.280 the state of Ohio, yep. And one of the things 981 01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:31.840 that immediately came to my mind, well, if you have 982 01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:33.639 a VPN, they don't even know you're in the state 983 01:00:33.639 --> 01:00:35.840 of Ohio, you could be literally appear as if you're 984 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:38.559 in Norway or something or some other state that doesn't 985 01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:40.519 have that kind of law. But in the article they 986 01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:42.400 said they were going to address that through something called 987 01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.960 geo fencing. Can you explain that, because when I'm looking 988 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:49.039 at North Koreans working at companies in the United States, 989 01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:51.079 it seems to me that the companies could figure out 990 01:00:51.079 --> 01:00:53.480 that these people are operating out of North Korea, unless, 991 01:00:53.559 --> 01:00:55.760 of course they're using a VPN. So what's the story 992 01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:57.000 on this? Can you help me out? 993 01:00:57.440 --> 01:01:00.719 Yeah? Yeah, So the idea of geo fencing is, you 994 01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:03.559 know who, however you connect to the Internet, whether it's 995 01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:08.119 your cellar carrier or you know a landline based carrier 996 01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:12.159 like Spectrum or somebody you know, ALTI fiber fill in 997 01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.840 the blank, they have a range of IP addresses and 998 01:01:14.920 --> 01:01:17.800 when you connect to their servers for your Internet access, 999 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:19.840 you're going to get assigned an IP address. They can 1000 01:01:20.440 --> 01:01:22.760 know roughly where you are. Does that make sense? 1001 01:01:22.840 --> 01:01:26.480 First, only for a cell phone, because you can, you know, 1002 01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:28.760 you can use the pings and locate it. Even if 1003 01:01:28.760 --> 01:01:30.639 you don't have your cell phone location device on, they 1004 01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:33.000 can still figure out where you are where the phone is. 1005 01:01:33.119 --> 01:01:36.679 But even your computer sitting on your desk at home 1006 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.719 for example. Right, let's say you use Ulta fiber, Well, 1007 01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:42.960 it gets an IP address assigned from Aultifiber, they can 1008 01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:45.559 know that you're coming from Aulti Fiber altifibers in the 1009 01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:48.280 greater Cincinnati region. And then you know, Ulti Fiber has 1010 01:01:48.360 --> 01:01:51.480 certain ranges assigned to certain areas, so you know, within 1011 01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.519 a relatively small area, they can know where you come from. 1012 01:01:54.599 --> 01:01:57.239 In fact, people, many people, I'm sure, and you're hosting 1013 01:01:57.280 --> 01:01:59.960 audience of experienced thats at work where let's say they travel, 1014 01:02:00.679 --> 01:02:03.960 and the company has some sort of essentially geo fencing 1015 01:02:04.039 --> 01:02:06.480 set up so that if you're coming from an ip 1016 01:02:06.639 --> 01:02:09.239 out of a certain range. This is not a perfect anology, 1017 01:02:09.320 --> 01:02:11.360 but it's closed. You might get blocked and you may 1018 01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:14.159 have to call and say, hey, I'm legitimately traveling, you know, 1019 01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:18.079 turn me on. So to your point though, with a VPN, yes, 1020 01:02:18.280 --> 01:02:20.559 if I you know, I use Proton VPN for my 1021 01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:23.559 personal stuff, you know, I can find up my Proton 1022 01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:25.920 VPN client and it can look like I'm coming out 1023 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:29.320 of let's say Finland this morning and Denmark later today. 1024 01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:33.199 So yeah, it's you know, if you know what you're doing, 1025 01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:35.920 you can essentially hide behind a VPN and make you 1026 01:02:36.159 --> 01:02:38.559 make it appear that you are somewhere you're not. And 1027 01:02:38.639 --> 01:02:41.480 with these North Korean hackers. So what they're doing, and 1028 01:02:41.639 --> 01:02:44.480 unfortunately there are family people in the United States who 1029 01:02:44.519 --> 01:02:47.119 are being paid paid to facilitate this, and several have 1030 01:02:47.239 --> 01:02:50.800 been arrested. So someone in the US essentially sets up 1031 01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:53.760 a server or laptop farm, call it whatever you want. 1032 01:02:54.239 --> 01:02:58.039 So the North Korean hacker basically sets up a bogus profile. 1033 01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:01.800 This is really a form of spooping. Again, pretends to 1034 01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:05.159 be a legitimate employee, gets hired by a US company, 1035 01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.159 and despite the fact that they're essentially North Korean assets 1036 01:03:08.239 --> 01:03:11.880 working in North Korea, they are remoting and they're connecting 1037 01:03:11.960 --> 01:03:15.320 to a quote laptop or server here in the United States. 1038 01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:18.559 Kind of like the way of VPN works, except this 1039 01:03:18.639 --> 01:03:19.840 is a nefarious version of it. 1040 01:03:20.920 --> 01:03:25.239 Yeah, it's basically sort of a VPN type of operations 1041 01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:29.079 designed to cover your tracks. So you get interviewed, you 1042 01:03:29.199 --> 01:03:32.679 get hired, you appear to be a US based person 1043 01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:35.920 working in these systems coming out of Like there was 1044 01:03:36.039 --> 01:03:38.039 a recent story about six months ago where a guy 1045 01:03:38.079 --> 01:03:40.480 in Nashville was arrested where he had dozens of computer 1046 01:03:40.599 --> 01:03:45.000 setup and these remote North Korean I would call them hackers, 1047 01:03:45.320 --> 01:03:46.960 you know. The story goes on to say, you know 1048 01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:50.800 data has been stolen, sensitives, information has been stolen, Cryptocurrency 1049 01:03:50.840 --> 01:03:53.639 has been stolen by these people. Again, they're pretending to 1050 01:03:53.679 --> 01:03:55.599 be let's say, a legitimate programmer. 1051 01:03:55.280 --> 01:03:56.559 Or network engineer or something. 1052 01:03:56.639 --> 01:04:00.079 They get hired, they get now high level access to 1053 01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.480 these company systems. So if you think about it, Brian, 1054 01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:04.400 you know I can hack and hack and hack away 1055 01:04:04.440 --> 01:04:06.360 and I might get in. I might get something if 1056 01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:10.239 you hire me. The high level actions you're in, right, Yeah, 1057 01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:12.679 it's the ultimate insider threat. I have time to lurk. 1058 01:04:12.960 --> 01:04:15.639 You think I'm working for you while I'm figuring out 1059 01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:17.880 how to steal your stuff, and I appear to be 1060 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:21.239 doing it as a person onshore in the US because 1061 01:04:21.280 --> 01:04:24.920 we have what I would call traders facilitating this type 1062 01:04:24.960 --> 01:04:28.760 of activity for you know, foreign adversary. Sometimes obviously it's 1063 01:04:28.800 --> 01:04:31.920 just financial, but you know when you have companies like 1064 01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:34.599 North Korea and China doing this sort of thing, you 1065 01:04:34.679 --> 01:04:37.599 know it's clearly beyond I just want to steal this 1066 01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:40.559 company's money. They want trade secrets, they want military secrets, 1067 01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:42.840 you know, or whatever else it is they're looking for, 1068 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:45.280 and this is a nefarious yet smart way to get 1069 01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:45.480 at it. 1070 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:49.039 So recognizing This is obviously a real problem if they 1071 01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:52.280 appear to be US based. How does a company deal 1072 01:04:52.360 --> 01:04:54.920 with this threat? Can they do something to protect themselves? 1073 01:04:54.960 --> 01:04:58.079 I mean, I guess a background check might be a method, 1074 01:04:58.159 --> 01:04:59.920 but I'm not certain under the circumstances. 1075 01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:03.679 Well, I think the first step is awareness that this 1076 01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:05.880 is a thing, so that you're more in client who 1077 01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:11.960 want to really thoroughly bet someone you know. Yeah, clearly 1078 01:05:12.039 --> 01:05:14.960 remote work is a thing, right, and you may have 1079 01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:18.000 someone who appears to be in the US. I think 1080 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:22.360 it's doing a deep dive background check, thoroughly betting people, 1081 01:05:23.880 --> 01:05:26.039 you know, if someone but but it's going to get 1082 01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:29.400 tricky if someone is really smart and really good at 1083 01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.800 impersonation and really can stick to their story through the 1084 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:36.599 fake profiles they set up. You know, if you are 1085 01:05:37.039 --> 01:05:40.480 truly connected to a server in Cincinnati, let's say, and 1086 01:05:40.639 --> 01:05:43.079 you know going to work for a Cincinnati based company, 1087 01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:47.639 it's going to be hard for you to know that 1088 01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:50.480 if you don't cat you know, once they're in, until 1089 01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:54.880 they trip some sort of alarm or something. This this 1090 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:57.360 speaks to something that most companies are not willing to 1091 01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:00.800 spend money on, and that would be things like insider 1092 01:06:00.920 --> 01:06:03.760 threat protection, data loss protection. You know, there are ways 1093 01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:06.840 to set up trip wires in your company. If you 1094 01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:08.880 have your permission set up right, you're not going to 1095 01:06:08.960 --> 01:06:11.360 give people access to stuff they shouldn't have access to. 1096 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:15.719 You know, there's things called honeypots, where again, once someone 1097 01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:18.920 starts nosing around too much, it starts to set off alarms. 1098 01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:21.719 But the big thing is Brian making people aware that 1099 01:06:21.840 --> 01:06:24.280 this is even a thing, so that ideally you would 1100 01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:27.000 not hire these people in the first place. And all 1101 01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:29.079 this stuff I just talked about, like data loss prevention, 1102 01:06:29.199 --> 01:06:30.880 well it takes work. You got to you got to 1103 01:06:30.920 --> 01:06:33.440 tag data and say this is sensitive. And if someone 1104 01:06:33.559 --> 01:06:36.760 tries to copy this file or copy files from this solder, 1105 01:06:37.199 --> 01:06:40.039 you know someone should look into that. So there are 1106 01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:44.760 technological solutions that can help you discover this once it starts, 1107 01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:48.079 but they're expensive, they take work, and you know, consequently, 1108 01:06:48.400 --> 01:06:51.280 a lot of organizations, unless there's some sort of high 1109 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:53.920 level government requirement or something, won't spend money on that 1110 01:06:54.280 --> 01:06:56.199 because they don't see the value in it, which I get. 1111 01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:59.679 So this helps point out why there might be value 1112 01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:00.639 in it. And again. 1113 01:07:02.000 --> 01:07:05.519 And it's crazy crazy, and regardless of what it costs, 1114 01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:07.559 that is a service that interest I can help a 1115 01:07:07.599 --> 01:07:08.400 business accomplish. 1116 01:07:09.480 --> 01:07:11.760 Yes, we can certainly help with any of the stuff 1117 01:07:11.800 --> 01:07:13.320 we're talking about in here, or at least help you 1118 01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:15.079 understand why you should care. 1119 01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:18.360 About it right, and they will do a free upfront 1120 01:07:18.400 --> 01:07:21.519 analysis of your system at intrust. I so interest it 1121 01:07:21.800 --> 01:07:25.199 dot Com another plug for your awesome company tech Friday 1122 01:07:25.239 --> 01:07:27.840 Day've had one more segment about your favorite company. Google 1123 01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:31.760 coming up next, first Affordable Imaging Services saving thousand. They're 1124 01:07:31.800 --> 01:07:34.360 at it again, hoovering up all the data they can 1125 01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:38.599 possibly hoover up. Google apparently can now read your WhatsApp 1126 01:07:38.719 --> 01:07:44.480 messages by default. What's this all about, Dave? Your favorite company? This? 1127 01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:48.199 This is it touches on several things that I think 1128 01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:51.039 are often confusing to people, and I'm concerned about when 1129 01:07:51.079 --> 01:07:54.079 it comes to privacy. We already talked about dark patterns 1130 01:07:54.119 --> 01:07:56.920 in the first segment, but this this gets into the 1131 01:07:57.000 --> 01:08:00.239 whole issue of opt in versus opt out. One of 1132 01:08:00.280 --> 01:08:02.320 the reasons why I get frustrated with so many of 1133 01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:06.199 these companies is they use dark patterns constantly to try 1134 01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:09.079 to make you stay, and they opt you into things right, 1135 01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:11.880 rather than you have to say, hey, I love to 1136 01:08:12.039 --> 01:08:14.599 use this new feature you've rolled out. Sounds great, I'm 1137 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.359 going to turn it on. They will just roll things out. 1138 01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:20.439 Apparently this Jem and I started rolling out on July 1139 01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:25.439 seventh to people's Android phones, and you know it's turned 1140 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:28.039 on by default. Now apparently they send out an email, 1141 01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:30.239 but you've got to open that email. You got to 1142 01:08:30.279 --> 01:08:32.760 read it. You know you can even understand what it's 1143 01:08:32.800 --> 01:08:35.640 telling you. Probably not in most cases. And again it's 1144 01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:38.000 the frustrating thing for me is they're just doing this 1145 01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:39.840 and then you have to opt out of it. Now, 1146 01:08:39.880 --> 01:08:42.159 the good news is apparently you can opt out of it. 1147 01:08:42.600 --> 01:08:44.840 And as you know, Brian, I don't have personal experience 1148 01:08:44.880 --> 01:08:46.920 with this because I don't use an Android phone, nor 1149 01:08:47.039 --> 01:08:50.239 do I use WhatsApp. But let me try to make 1150 01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:51.880 a put a finer point on this. So you have 1151 01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:56.159 an app from Meta right, what's app, which is theoretically 1152 01:08:56.319 --> 01:09:00.239 a secure end to end messaging app, and one of 1153 01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:02.359 the reasons you would use it is because it supports 1154 01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.880 end encryption. You have the WhatsApp app, I have the 1155 01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:07.479 WhatsApp app. You and I can send encrypted messages to 1156 01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:11.119 one another and unless someone can unlock your phone or 1157 01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:13.720 my phone, no one can read those messages because they're 1158 01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:17.560 encrypted in the WhatsApp app and send to you right, right, 1159 01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:22.399 So this whole Gemini thing, and I understand how if 1160 01:09:22.439 --> 01:09:26.039 you want to assume good intentions, it could be beneficial. 1161 01:09:26.119 --> 01:09:28.640 You know, the Gemini app hits it's their AI. Now 1162 01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:30.680 you can talk to the phone. Hey, I want to 1163 01:09:30.720 --> 01:09:32.760 send to what's app message to Brian Thomas, and here's 1164 01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:35.399 what I want to say. And ideally it would open 1165 01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:37.720 the WhatsApp app, plug that in and send it on 1166 01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:39.880 my behalf without meaning you need to open the app 1167 01:09:39.920 --> 01:09:43.359 and type it in manually. Right, that's the theory. The 1168 01:09:44.279 --> 01:09:47.560 problem though with that is I want to send a 1169 01:09:47.600 --> 01:09:51.520 secure message to you. You know, even the way the 1170 01:09:51.640 --> 01:09:54.800 end encryption works, it should not be possible even for 1171 01:09:54.960 --> 01:09:58.960 Meta to read those messages exactly. Okay, But now that 1172 01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:02.319 I am talking to the Gemini app on my phone 1173 01:10:02.840 --> 01:10:06.439 and it's composing this message on my behalf, Google potentially 1174 01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:08.960 has access to that message. Well, of course the content 1175 01:10:09.640 --> 01:10:12.920 is accessible with Gemini before it's encrypted by WhatsApp. Does 1176 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:13.520 that make sense? 1177 01:10:13.680 --> 01:10:16.560 Yeah, you are reading your message that is to be 1178 01:10:16.920 --> 01:10:20.600 encrypted by WhatsApp, but you're reading the out loud message 1179 01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:26.600 to the Google related software, which is then converting it 1180 01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:29.319 into a third party app, which in this particular case 1181 01:10:29.600 --> 01:10:30.239 is WhatsApp. 1182 01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:34.079 Yeah, so this isn't just a WhatsApp thing. It would 1183 01:10:34.119 --> 01:10:37.880 be anything where you would be exchanging You could be 1184 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.880 using their AI product to do something. It would have 1185 01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:44.439 access to that information before it even enters into the 1186 01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:49.039 other applications. So you were potentially exposing information you wouldn't 1187 01:10:49.039 --> 01:10:51.039 want Google to have to them by using this app, 1188 01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:55.199 and they've essentially opted you into it from everything I've read. Now, again, 1189 01:10:55.640 --> 01:10:57.840 I don't use any I don't use anything for meta 1190 01:10:57.880 --> 01:10:59.920 if I can help, but I don't use anything from Google. 1191 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.640 I like it, So this isn't a problem for me 1192 01:11:02.800 --> 01:11:05.359 and I have not experienced in firsthand. But if you're 1193 01:11:05.399 --> 01:11:08.119 an Android user, this stuff is rolling out and you 1194 01:11:08.239 --> 01:11:11.039 need to understand that by using it, you are potentially 1195 01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:14.239 exposing information that you might not understand as beings. So 1196 01:11:14.960 --> 01:11:17.560 my advice, and apparently you still can go in and 1197 01:11:17.640 --> 01:11:20.560 turn this off. I would argue dark patterns are at 1198 01:11:20.600 --> 01:11:23.720 work because I read all the you know how to 1199 01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:26.760 do it and solve the screenshots. Apparently there's multiple places 1200 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:29.279 you got to go. You know, you could just disable 1201 01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:32.159 to or delete the Gemini app. That would be my 1202 01:11:32.359 --> 01:11:35.600 recommendation to you. However, you know, you've got to decide 1203 01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:39.119 for yourself or or better yet, get off their platform 1204 01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:43.399 and find a more privacy friendly option like Apple. I'm 1205 01:11:43.439 --> 01:11:46.159 not saying Apple doesn't have its problems, Brian, but in general, 1206 01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:49.079 the whole business model is different and they are less 1207 01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.640 incentivized to want to capture your data and do these 1208 01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.000 sorts of things. So again, I want to be clear 1209 01:11:54.000 --> 01:11:56.039 and every day that I'm not an Apple fanboy. I'm 1210 01:11:56.039 --> 01:11:59.359 not telling you they're you know, spotless and without blame, right, 1211 01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:01.439 just telling you that in general they are more privacy 1212 01:12:01.520 --> 01:12:04.159 friendly than most of their competition. So I'm you know, 1213 01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:06.880 I'm not going to use an Android phone for the 1214 01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:08.479 sort of reasons we just described here. 1215 01:12:08.760 --> 01:12:11.079 That's a consistent message from you. That's one thing we 1216 01:12:11.159 --> 01:12:13.960 can always count on you consistently rejecting the idea of 1217 01:12:14.079 --> 01:12:16.439 using Android and Google Meta. 1218 01:12:16.760 --> 01:12:18.960 And you know, Brian, I had the Android phone for 1219 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.319 a long time, many years ago, and finally, because of 1220 01:12:21.399 --> 01:12:24.560 the sorts of things we're always talking about, I finally 1221 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:27.600 said enough is enough, you know, and there are more 1222 01:12:27.920 --> 01:12:30.840 privacy and friendly options out there than Apple. However, they 1223 01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:35.159 usually are very unfriendly to consumers. You know, then more 1224 01:12:35.159 --> 01:12:37.439 difficult to use, YadA, YadA, YadA. And you know, at 1225 01:12:37.479 --> 01:12:40.239 some point I may find myself switching over to that, 1226 01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:43.720 but for now, apples for me, strikes a good balance 1227 01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:49.600 of usability, you know, ease of access versus privacy. So 1228 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.239 I am I'm at but yeah, it's you're using an 1229 01:12:52.279 --> 01:12:54.119 Android phone. I encourage you to look into this and 1230 01:12:54.239 --> 01:12:57.880 strongly considered disabling this Gemini feature or removing it entirely 1231 01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:01.000 because you're potential going to exposed things you would not 1232 01:13:01.079 --> 01:13:01.680 want to expose. 1233 01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:04.840 Fair enough, appreciate the sound advice as always, Tech Friday's 1234 01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:07.479 Dave Hatter interest id dot com where you find Dave 1235 01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.119 and the crew to help you with all these types 1236 01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:10.960 of problems. If you have a business, get in touch 1237 01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:13.039 with them. Dave until next Friday, my friend, who hope 1238 01:13:13.079 --> 01:13:15.039 you have a wonderful weekend, and I appreciate your time 1239 01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:32.279 on the on the morning show seven O six have 1240 01:13:32.399 --> 01:13:36.880 fifty five care ceev Talk day two. I'm very happy 1241 01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:38.920 Friday too. Yeah, I've got some great plans going on 1242 01:13:39.039 --> 01:13:40.720 this weekend. I thine you stick around all morning, listen 1243 01:13:40.760 --> 01:13:42.359 to the fifty five cars every morning show. Feel free 1244 01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:43.760 to call them and to get to Bobby's call here 1245 01:13:43.760 --> 01:13:45.640 in a moment five one, three, seven, four nine, fifty 1246 01:13:45.640 --> 01:13:48.760 five hundred eight two three talk found five fifty on 1247 01:13:48.960 --> 01:13:50.880 AT and T phones. You're just tuning in now you 1248 01:13:50.920 --> 01:13:53.239 didn't get to hear tech Friday's Dave Hatter always a 1249 01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:57.000 very valuable informative segment. You can podcast that over at 1250 01:13:57.039 --> 01:13:59.520 fifty five kre se dot com and get your iHeart 1251 01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:01.920 media while are there. Coming up bottom of this hour 1252 01:14:02.119 --> 01:14:05.880 are German. I call him our resident German expert. He 1253 01:14:06.039 --> 01:14:09.760 is familiar with all things German, including Bruno Richard Houtman. 1254 01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:11.680 It's don Heinrich Toltzman at the bottom of the hour 1255 01:14:12.239 --> 01:14:15.199 about the book I Am Innocent, which is described as 1256 01:14:15.239 --> 01:14:18.439 a jail cell i autobiography of Bruno Houtman, who's the 1257 01:14:18.479 --> 01:14:22.720 guy who was tried, convicted, and jailed from murdering Charles 1258 01:14:22.840 --> 01:14:29.840 Lindbergh Junior the Lindberg Baby in studio. Retired detective Jim Grendel, 1259 01:14:29.880 --> 01:14:32.119 who was with the Springdale Police Department before a long 1260 01:14:32.199 --> 01:14:34.920 time before retiring, he's written a book called Homicide Investigation, 1261 01:14:35.119 --> 01:14:39.079 The Interview, True Crime, Robbery, homicide book. It's a two 1262 01:14:39.239 --> 01:14:43.239 hour interview unedited and he just explains basically, it's a 1263 01:14:43.279 --> 01:14:48.079 homicide investigation and he interviewed the obviously the suspect, and 1264 01:14:48.159 --> 01:14:51.720 it's a really interesting analysis of how you go about, well, 1265 01:14:51.880 --> 01:14:54.720 I suppose, getting people to confess or otherwise provide information 1266 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:57.119 relative to crimes. He'll be in studio at eight oho 1267 01:14:57.119 --> 01:14:59.760 five to talk about that. In the meantime, before I 1268 01:14:59.800 --> 01:15:01.720 moved go on to something else and not quite sure 1269 01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.239 which direction I'm gonna go. I'm gonna let Bobby decide that. Bobby, 1270 01:15:04.279 --> 01:15:06.199 thanks for calling this morning, and Happy Friday to you. 1271 01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:11.800 Happy Friday, my brother faiths flag family and holiday greeting 1272 01:15:11.920 --> 01:15:16.359 cards there you are. Well, one thing I need to 1273 01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:19.359 ask you about is the what's this stuff about the porn? 1274 01:15:19.560 --> 01:15:20.840 What are they trying to regulate it? 1275 01:15:20.920 --> 01:15:21.479 What are they doing? 1276 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:24.000 Yeah, in the budget bill here in the state of Ohio, 1277 01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:27.960 they have incorporated a new it's a child protection measure. 1278 01:15:28.079 --> 01:15:31.840 So in order to load or go to a pornography website, 1279 01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:33.439 I think the one that was sided was like porn 1280 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:35.960 Hub or something. Just an illustration. They are apparently hundreds 1281 01:15:35.960 --> 01:15:38.760 and hundreds of them out there. But if the content 1282 01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:42.239 that is on the site is that the company provides 1283 01:15:42.279 --> 01:15:46.399 it and it has a financial motivation providing this content. 1284 01:15:46.439 --> 01:15:49.720 In other words, they make money off providing pornography. Then 1285 01:15:50.039 --> 01:15:54.800 you must provide age verification in the form of submitting 1286 01:15:54.840 --> 01:15:59.079 your driver's license or other government issued identification to prove 1287 01:15:59.119 --> 01:16:03.359 that you're over the eight of eighteen. And they say 1288 01:16:03.520 --> 01:16:06.279 that that you can't work and work around at using 1289 01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:09.079 a VPN, although I'm still not convinced that it will 1290 01:16:09.159 --> 01:16:10.960 work because the VPN is going to make you look 1291 01:16:11.039 --> 01:16:13.399 like you're someplace else, not in the state of Ohio. 1292 01:16:13.800 --> 01:16:16.079 But if you're just logging in on your cell phone, 1293 01:16:16.119 --> 01:16:18.560 you're logging in your computer and you go to a 1294 01:16:18.600 --> 01:16:21.680 porn site, that site is now going to be obligated 1295 01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:24.600 to ask you for age verification. Now, what has been 1296 01:16:24.640 --> 01:16:26.600 the reaction in other states? This is what we're like 1297 01:16:26.680 --> 01:16:29.159 the twentieth state to pass the law along these lines 1298 01:16:29.720 --> 01:16:32.880 other states, the sites just decide they're not going to 1299 01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:35.439 do business in the state, so rather than collect the data, 1300 01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:37.760 then they just say, well, we just want to offer 1301 01:16:37.800 --> 01:16:41.039 our service in now Ohio. I suppose law kicks in 1302 01:16:41.119 --> 01:16:44.279 I believe at the end of September, So no porns 1303 01:16:44.319 --> 01:16:46.560 for you in Ohio, unless you're willing to give your 1304 01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:50.359 information to a third party vendor, which oh yeah. 1305 01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:54.479 Hey, I got another question about it. Well, young people 1306 01:16:54.560 --> 01:16:56.680 now are really in the these podcasts. Why don't we 1307 01:16:56.760 --> 01:16:59.720 have a porn cast with just audio? And that'd be 1308 01:16:59.760 --> 01:17:01.680 a fine thing for the Drive at five. 1309 01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:05.640 You know, actually that probably would be a workaround. 1310 01:17:06.600 --> 01:17:06.800 Yeah. 1311 01:17:06.880 --> 01:17:08.840 If there's words that are said, you know, you can 1312 01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:11.560 always beep them out, and you know, preload everything up 1313 01:17:11.640 --> 01:17:14.159 and have the Drive at five first thirty minutes. 1314 01:17:13.880 --> 01:17:16.600 And nothing but porn cast. Now, you got it. Your 1315 01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:22.000 next business venture there, Bobby, the verbal porn site. 1316 01:17:22.920 --> 01:17:25.640 That's it. I mean, you know you get pasted all 1317 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:27.840 the moaning and groan and there's a few words here 1318 01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:29.039 and there, just beep them out. 1319 01:17:30.279 --> 01:17:37.439 Okay. Joe Strekker who does podcast as a sideline, So 1320 01:17:37.520 --> 01:17:39.640 if you need a podcast, I got to Jude Trekker. 1321 01:17:39.920 --> 01:17:42.560 He said that would be an interesting podcast to edit. 1322 01:17:43.079 --> 01:17:46.520 You wouldn't have to hire anybody. You could go ahead 1323 01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:49.720 with all past things on, you know, every movie known 1324 01:17:49.800 --> 01:17:52.319 the man. Just take the audio here and there for 1325 01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:53.920 Matt thirty minutes. 1326 01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:54.359 Of porn cast. 1327 01:17:54.640 --> 01:17:57.079 I suppose you could, Bobby there you go. 1328 01:17:57.279 --> 01:17:57.479 Brother. 1329 01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:00.239 Doesn't sound very compelling to me, Bobby, But you know, hey, 1330 01:18:00.319 --> 01:18:02.880 different strokes for just different folks. And I don't know 1331 01:18:02.960 --> 01:18:04.800 there's a flag for anybody out there that would, uh 1332 01:18:05.000 --> 01:18:09.119 well consume that type of content. Bobby, have a great weekend, man. 1333 01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:11.720 I appreciate it is Friday, it though, don't mind you 1334 01:18:11.760 --> 01:18:13.399 I drive down that type of cul de sac on 1335 01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:16.680 a Friday. Anyway, I'm still strugging. This whole Epstein thing 1336 01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:20.520 has just got me baffled, befuddled, bewildered. So I can 1337 01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:22.359 come over with the more alliterative words to use and 1338 01:18:22.439 --> 01:18:27.800 tack onto that help me out. But okay, everybody's been 1339 01:18:27.840 --> 01:18:30.560 clamoring for information about Epstein for a long time. Okay, 1340 01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:33.680 the whole idea that he killed himself, Yeah, Epstein, it 1341 01:18:33.760 --> 01:18:36.359 was a joke almost people just like nobody believed that. 1342 01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:39.920 And so that was a conspiracy theory. It was fueled online. 1343 01:18:39.960 --> 01:18:41.760 And I know, and I never had any idea one 1344 01:18:41.800 --> 01:18:45.800 way or another. It didn't really care ultimately, I mean, 1345 01:18:45.880 --> 01:18:48.840 I guess part of me was glad he's dead. Say 1346 01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:52.479 the taxpayers some trial money. But so you had that, 1347 01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:56.159 you have these all these celebrities, well known folks. There 1348 01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:58.600 are millions of photographs out there with all these famous 1349 01:18:58.600 --> 01:19:00.920 people with Epstein. We've got all kinds a flight record 1350 01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:03.479 showing that Epstein flew people around in his private jet, 1351 01:19:03.720 --> 01:19:06.840 most notably to the Lolita Island, where I guess women 1352 01:19:06.920 --> 01:19:11.199 were molested and women under age were molested. Criminal activity. 1353 01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:15.840 Lots of discussion about that over the many years that 1354 01:19:15.960 --> 01:19:17.880 this has been the subject matter. Of course, he was 1355 01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:21.319 convicted of molesting children and was a known pedophile from 1356 01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:26.560 back in the late two thousands, and there's a picture 1357 01:19:26.560 --> 01:19:28.119 of him with Donald Trump and a lot of people 1358 01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:30.079 suggesting he was friends with Donald Trump. And now the 1359 01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:33.159 Wall Street Journal publishing an article about this letter or 1360 01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:36.520 this this birthday card that Donald Trump allegedly created back 1361 01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:38.560 in two thousand and three with a sketch of a 1362 01:19:38.720 --> 01:19:42.560 nude woman in some random comment that they attributed to Trump. 1363 01:19:42.600 --> 01:19:44.319 Trump came out yesterday said he's going to sue the 1364 01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:46.399 Wall Street Journal because he told him it was not him, 1365 01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:48.680 and he didn't write that. It isn't something he would say, 1366 01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:51.239 and he's never drawn pictures of naked women before, but 1367 01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:54.840 there it is. Some are saying that the Democrats created 1368 01:19:54.880 --> 01:19:57.560 that whole cloth, so I don't know, I haven't seen it. 1369 01:19:59.239 --> 01:20:01.760 Donald Trump now saying that he is planning on having 1370 01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:07.680 the grand jury testimony released. He's instructed that. So rewind 1371 01:20:07.800 --> 01:20:10.600 a while back. Trump's in favor of releasing the Epstein 1372 01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:13.560 documents he said he had on the campaign trail. Now 1373 01:20:13.680 --> 01:20:15.760 the Department of Justice comes out and says, there's nothing 1374 01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:18.239 to release. There is no list. The only information in 1375 01:20:18.319 --> 01:20:20.279 there is stuff that we can't have anyway because it 1376 01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:24.239 constitutes childborn. We don't want to release victims' names because 1377 01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:28.199 it might, you know, impact their privacy. Maybe there's ongoing 1378 01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:31.159 investigations that will be a legitimate reason to withhold the documents. 1379 01:20:31.199 --> 01:20:35.479 But no one said that. But considering the length of 1380 01:20:35.560 --> 01:20:37.520 time we've been talking about this, now you've got the 1381 01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:40.319 Trump administration sort of doing a one eighty away from 1382 01:20:41.000 --> 01:20:43.000 releasing the information, at least up until yesterday when he 1383 01:20:43.039 --> 01:20:47.079 talked about releasing the grand jury testimony. But really hard 1384 01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:51.640 rejection of those out there clamoring to get these documents. 1385 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:57.319 I mean, he's he was angry about it, but what 1386 01:20:57.479 --> 01:21:01.600 of the Biden administration? And it was interesting exchange yesterday 1387 01:21:01.640 --> 01:21:05.880 between Democrat Representative Jamie Raskin and Joe Scarborough. Of all 1388 01:21:06.000 --> 01:21:11.880 people leftist, he is MSNBC's Mourning Joe Joe Scarborough. Talking 1389 01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:18.640 about this situation, Scarborough asked if the saga involving Epstein 1390 01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:23.560 was a crisis the Biden administration did not release records 1391 01:21:23.560 --> 01:21:25.760 when it was in power, Epstein was and here here's 1392 01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:28.159 what Raskin had to say that leads into a really 1393 01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:32.800 good sort of cross examination by Joe Scarborough. He said 1394 01:21:32.800 --> 01:21:35.640 Epstein was able to use all his powerful connections, including 1395 01:21:35.680 --> 01:21:38.600 who was then his best friend, Donald Trump. Now you 1396 01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.600 know that's a lie. Donald Trump knew the guy and did, 1397 01:21:42.039 --> 01:21:44.800 I guess have some interactions with Epstein, but he cut 1398 01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:47.640 that off after a failed real estate transaction. He didn't 1399 01:21:47.680 --> 01:21:49.600 hang out with the guy or didn't do anything with him. 1400 01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:53.760 And that was prior to Epstein being convicted for molesting children. 1401 01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:56.720 So that's kind of well documented. So kind of ignore 1402 01:21:56.760 --> 01:22:02.279 the overstatement from Raskin along those lines. And look, he 1403 01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:05.119 went on, why is this important? Because the sexual abuse 1404 01:22:05.159 --> 01:22:08.039 of young people and children is a crisis throughout our society. 1405 01:22:08.079 --> 01:22:11.000 There is, of course, the church scandal or many church scandals. 1406 01:22:11.199 --> 01:22:13.399 There's what happened in Michigan State. There's what happened to 1407 01:22:13.399 --> 01:22:18.760 Ohio state. That's when Scarborough interjected, But Congressman, you could 1408 01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:22.279 have gotten that from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty five, 1409 01:22:22.319 --> 01:22:26.079 when Democrats controlled the Department of Justice, it was a crisis. 1410 01:22:26.199 --> 01:22:30.359 Then it's a crisis. Now, why didn't Democrats call for 1411 01:22:30.439 --> 01:22:35.600 it from twenty one to twenty five? Legitimate question, because 1412 01:22:35.640 --> 01:22:38.800 they are right now the Democrats driving the call to 1413 01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:41.279 have these documents released. It's almost as if this is 1414 01:22:41.319 --> 01:22:44.079 another one of those scenarios where if Trump wants something, 1415 01:22:44.159 --> 01:22:46.479 they're gonna say no, you can't have it. In this 1416 01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:48.960 particular case, Trump is now saying no, you can't have it. 1417 01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:51.359 So the Democrats natural knee jerk reaction is to jump 1418 01:22:51.439 --> 01:22:55.800 up and say no, we want it. Now we're asking 1419 01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:58.560 has this weird reply? Obviously backed in a corner, and 1420 01:22:58.600 --> 01:23:00.520 he said, so, I mean, you'd if you go back 1421 01:23:00.520 --> 01:23:03.960 and look specifically a particular prosecutorial decisions and what was 1422 01:23:04.039 --> 01:23:06.399 taking place in terms of other cases. So I don't know. 1423 01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:11.039 We could try to reconstruct that record. 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Let's get a traffic update. 1480 01:25:57.960 --> 01:26:00.880 Chuck Ingram from the ucup traffic that you see. 1481 01:26:00.920 --> 01:26:03.399 Health Brain Tumor Center finds answers for some of the 1482 01:26:03.479 --> 01:26:05.000 most complex brain tumors. 1483 01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:07.239 Learn more at you see health dot com. 1484 01:26:07.479 --> 01:26:10.279 Southbound seventy five continues to be a slow go into 1485 01:26:10.319 --> 01:26:13.199 downtown and accident right hand side at Freeman. 1486 01:26:13.840 --> 01:26:15.039 Flowing traffic there. 1487 01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:18.079 Northbound seventy five, starting to fill in a bit between 1488 01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:21.800 buttermilk and Kyle's raining not helping any and there's a 1489 01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:25.680 recond Cincinnati Daton at Princeton Chuck Ingramont fifty five krs 1490 01:26:25.880 --> 01:26:27.000 the talk Station. 1491 01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:32.039 Seven twenty one. It's about karsd talk Station the Happy 1492 01:26:32.119 --> 01:26:35.319 Friday looking forward to having Don Tynrin Toltzman joined the 1493 01:26:35.399 --> 01:26:37.640 program talk about the book I Am Innocent that will 1494 01:26:37.680 --> 01:26:39.960 take place in the next segment. He's the editor of 1495 01:26:40.039 --> 01:26:42.119 the book, so it could be a fascinating account by 1496 01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:44.880 Bruno Richard Hoptman, the guy who was convicted of killing 1497 01:26:44.960 --> 01:26:48.880 Charles Lindberg Junior. Anyway, related to nothing under Donald Trump's 1498 01:26:48.880 --> 01:26:50.439 been having an ongoing battle with the Fed. When he's 1499 01:26:50.479 --> 01:26:53.439 got the interest rates low for the purpose of home buyers, 1500 01:26:54.119 --> 01:26:57.239 Obviously the interest rates are significantly higher than they have been, 1501 01:26:57.880 --> 01:27:00.359 and that's a real problem. I still refin luck back 1502 01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:02.199 on when we first bought our house, when interest rates 1503 01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:06.800 were north of eight percent. We had a seven to 1504 01:27:06.840 --> 01:27:08.880 twenty three balloon on our first house and it was 1505 01:27:08.960 --> 01:27:14.640 financed at eight and an eighth and we had a 1506 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:18.479 provision in our closing where the seller paid three points. 1507 01:27:18.640 --> 01:27:21.239 So obviously a different landscape, but we were able to 1508 01:27:21.319 --> 01:27:24.319 manage through that. But it's been a real problem because 1509 01:27:24.319 --> 01:27:26.239 the price of homes has gone through the roof, and 1510 01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:28.479 this is where the problem lies. If you get the 1511 01:27:28.600 --> 01:27:30.800 interest rate lowered, it's not going to impact the price 1512 01:27:30.840 --> 01:27:32.359 of the house. In fact, there's going to be more 1513 01:27:32.439 --> 01:27:34.600 demand out there since more people would be able to 1514 01:27:34.680 --> 01:27:39.039 afford a mortgage if the interest rates were lower. I 1515 01:27:39.159 --> 01:27:42.319 saw this article the other in the in the Journal. 1516 01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:46.600 Median age of a first time home buyer is now 1517 01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:52.479 thirty eight years old. Medium price for an existing single 1518 01:27:52.520 --> 01:27:56.600 family home last year four hundred and twelve five hundred dollars. 1519 01:27:58.199 --> 01:28:02.359 That significantly increased rising interest rates made it a bad situation, 1520 01:28:02.439 --> 01:28:06.119 whereas average monthly mortgage payments on that medium priced house 1521 01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:09.039 jumped from fourteen hundred and forty five dollars in counter 1522 01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:11.359 year twenty one all the way up to twenty five 1523 01:28:11.560 --> 01:28:15.680 hundred and seventy dollars last year. Home insurance has also 1524 01:28:15.800 --> 01:28:18.439 gone up dramatically. You may have noticed that that's a 1525 01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:20.840 problem that's plaguing a lot of folks, most notably in 1526 01:28:20.920 --> 01:28:23.680 states that have a lot of natural disasters, like California, 1527 01:28:23.720 --> 01:28:26.800 where homeowners insurance companies are pulling out completely. Good luck 1528 01:28:26.880 --> 01:28:33.439 on that, and that rising home insurance premium transforms that 1529 01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:39.119 twenty five seventy average monthly premium up to thirty two 1530 01:28:39.239 --> 01:28:43.640 hundred and seventy bucks a month. As translated, the annual 1531 01:28:43.680 --> 01:28:46.119 income required to qualify for a mortgage on the medium 1532 01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:51.560 house risen more than sixty percent since twenty twenty one, 1533 01:28:51.680 --> 01:28:54.479 which prices out more than half of the potential first 1534 01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:58.359 time home buyers, which is why the average home buyer 1535 01:28:58.439 --> 01:29:00.399 is now thirty eight years old. Used to be a 1536 01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:04.960 lot younger than that. They say government policies aren't helping either. 1537 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:07.199 Trump's tariff's going to add significantly to the cost of 1538 01:29:07.239 --> 01:29:09.760 building because lumber and aluminum and other products are going 1539 01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:12.960 to building. Homes are going up. There's a shortage of workers. 1540 01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:19.439 We're apparently short two hundred and fifty thousand construction workers. 1541 01:29:21.039 --> 01:29:23.359 And that's a career opportunity for folks out there. It 1542 01:29:23.520 --> 01:29:29.199 really is. The trades are where it's at so many 1543 01:29:29.560 --> 01:29:32.000 there's so many opportunities for people to get a career. 1544 01:29:32.199 --> 01:29:34.640 If all you need to do is earn why you 1545 01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:37.880 learn in a trade program or I guess go to 1546 01:29:38.239 --> 01:29:43.239 a school and learn the trades, plumbing, HVAC, construction. You're 1547 01:29:43.239 --> 01:29:46.520 going to get a job, apparently. But the landscape isn't 1548 01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:48.319 going to change, even if Trump got his way and 1549 01:29:48.479 --> 01:29:50.720 had the interest rates lower. There's a shortage of houses 1550 01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:53.159 out there. And the other thing that's changed, too is 1551 01:29:53.239 --> 01:29:56.039 what builders actually build. And this is something that I've 1552 01:29:56.079 --> 01:29:58.880 observed many times over the years. The new homes are 1553 01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:02.800 massive compared to the old homes, and as the article 1554 01:30:02.840 --> 01:30:05.399 points out, the median size of a new home has 1555 01:30:05.479 --> 01:30:09.239 increased from about fifteen hundred square feet back in the 1556 01:30:09.319 --> 01:30:12.520 nineteen sixties to now more than twenty two hundred square feet, 1557 01:30:13.039 --> 01:30:16.199 and that was in the early twenty twenties. You can't 1558 01:30:16.199 --> 01:30:19.279 get builders to build the small homes. The profit is 1559 01:30:19.399 --> 01:30:21.720 in larger homes. The demand is in larger homes, and 1560 01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:24.000 if you've got a limited number of construction workers, you're 1561 01:30:24.000 --> 01:30:25.439 going to go where the profit is, and the profit 1562 01:30:25.479 --> 01:30:29.159 apparently is in larger homes. So I mean, I just 1563 01:30:29.279 --> 01:30:32.199 bring this up because there ain't no easy solution or 1564 01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:34.079 quick fix to the price of housing and the cost 1565 01:30:34.159 --> 01:30:37.760 of housing, and I'm not quite sure if owning a 1566 01:30:37.840 --> 01:30:40.399 home is part of what you and I perceive as 1567 01:30:40.439 --> 01:30:42.920 the American dream. I think in many cases people would 1568 01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:47.319 say that, but is it really the American dream? Do 1569 01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:50.279 you have to own a home to achieve and embrace 1570 01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:54.039 and enjoy what you perceive to be the American dream? 1571 01:30:55.079 --> 01:30:57.560 Seven twenty five right now, fifty five krs detalk station. 1572 01:30:57.640 --> 01:31:00.239 Should I take that call? Jedway have time? I don't 1573 01:31:00.279 --> 01:31:02.680 have time, Sorry, mister Pappis, I do not have time. 1574 01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:04.399 We got Donald Doltzman on, but you can feel free 1575 01:31:04.439 --> 01:31:05.880 to call back later. I'd love to hear from it. 1576 01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:09.199 Always an engaging conversation with you, sir. But first, Cross 1577 01:31:09.319 --> 01:31:12.119 Country Mortgage. Speaking of mortgages, if you can afford to 1578 01:31:12.159 --> 01:31:14.520 buy a home, go as Susette lows a camp at 1579 01:31:14.520 --> 01:31:17.479 Cross Country Mortgage. 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There's a 1618 01:33:02.079 --> 01:33:06.079 wreck on Cincinnati Daton at Princeton with Paul and Wires 1619 01:33:06.159 --> 01:33:09.960 down Chuck Ingram on fifty five KRC the talk station. 1620 01:33:11.319 --> 01:33:13.880 Hey seven thirty Here fifty five RSD talk station moving 1621 01:33:13.880 --> 01:33:17.520 away from things political. Welcome back to the fifty five 1622 01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:21.680 PERC Morning Show. Hair Don Heinrich Toltzman to talk about 1623 01:33:21.760 --> 01:33:23.520 this book that he actually was the editor of. I 1624 01:33:23.600 --> 01:33:28.000 Am Innocent Statement from the Death Cell the Gate and 1625 01:33:28.159 --> 01:33:29.880 z Her Holtzman. They'll come in. 1626 01:33:31.119 --> 01:33:34.680 Good Morgan, Good Morgan, Thank you, Brian. I In the 1627 01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:36.800 past I've come on and talked about a lot of 1628 01:33:36.840 --> 01:33:41.000 different topics relating to the German heritage and one that 1629 01:33:41.159 --> 01:33:46.920 I became interested in was the trial of Bruno Richard Hauptmann. 1630 01:33:47.319 --> 01:33:50.640 And I had found by reading through the German American 1631 01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:55.279 papers that many, especially German Americans, felt that he did 1632 01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:57.680 not get a fair trial, that he had been framed 1633 01:33:57.920 --> 01:34:04.119 and railroaded during the trial for the Lindbergh kidnapping case. 1634 01:34:04.359 --> 01:34:07.439 And when I was in Germany and I happened to 1635 01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:13.199 visit Hautmann's home town, comments in Saxony, and I found 1636 01:34:13.239 --> 01:34:16.640 that part of his autobiography had been published in German, 1637 01:34:17.399 --> 01:34:20.800 but it was part of a larger manuscript that he 1638 01:34:20.840 --> 01:34:23.319 had written. And when I came back to the US, 1639 01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:28.279 I founded at the New Jersey State Police Museum. Parts 1640 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:31.279 were missing, the part that had published in Germany. So 1641 01:34:31.359 --> 01:34:35.680 I translated them into English and put together the full manuscript, 1642 01:34:36.039 --> 01:34:38.359 and I think it sheds light of the case. And 1643 01:34:39.159 --> 01:34:42.119 I added a lot of notes to it based on 1644 01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:45.560 my research, which I think clearly showed that he did 1645 01:34:45.680 --> 01:34:49.199 not get a fair trial. It was really an absolute farce. 1646 01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:52.359 And I should say too that. 1647 01:34:53.920 --> 01:34:57.800 The kidnapping that took place in nineteen thirty two, it 1648 01:34:58.279 --> 01:34:59.720 made international news. 1649 01:35:00.680 --> 01:35:03.159 Yeah, was the first man to cross the Atlantic in 1650 01:35:03.199 --> 01:35:06.720 an airplane. I mean he was a global hero. 1651 01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:10.239 Today we take it for granted we fly back and 1652 01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:13.680 forth to Europe, but in nineteen twenty seven he flew 1653 01:35:13.840 --> 01:35:20.319 the first NonStop transatlantic flight and he was like John Glenn, 1654 01:35:20.520 --> 01:35:22.880 who you know, the man in the Moon. I mean, 1655 01:35:22.920 --> 01:35:27.479 he was famous beyond it was. I mean, we're just incredible. 1656 01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:34.720 So so the kidnap he took place in nineteen thirty two, 1657 01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:39.119 and we'll go into some of the details. But after 1658 01:35:39.359 --> 01:35:44.640 Halpmant was arrested, the police beat him to a pulp 1659 01:35:44.960 --> 01:35:47.920 tried to get a confession from but they failed. He 1660 01:35:48.079 --> 01:35:54.880 maintained his innocence. The police there too, from their perspective, 1661 01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.640 they were under tremendous pressure. Been two and a half 1662 01:35:57.760 --> 01:36:04.239 years after the kidnapping, they had not found anybody, and 1663 01:36:05.199 --> 01:36:08.960 they offered money to Haupman if he would confess. They 1664 01:36:09.039 --> 01:36:13.199 offered him leniency, but he maintained his innocent So I 1665 01:36:13.439 --> 01:36:18.399 edited the autobiography and it gives him a posthumous opportunity 1666 01:36:18.439 --> 01:36:22.159 to tell to tell his story. And you know why 1667 01:36:22.239 --> 01:36:24.479 is it important? Well, it was called the crime of 1668 01:36:24.520 --> 01:36:30.000 the century, and it was you know, even then already 1669 01:36:30.119 --> 01:36:36.600 people questioned that the evidence was manufactured witnesses were bribed. 1670 01:36:37.800 --> 01:36:38.439 And so on. 1671 01:36:38.880 --> 01:36:42.000 And you know a problem for the haupman at the 1672 01:36:42.079 --> 01:36:47.199 time anti German sentiment was right after World War One, 1673 01:36:49.039 --> 01:36:52.479 anti German feeling. Hitler just came to power. 1674 01:36:53.279 --> 01:36:55.079 So here he was a. 1675 01:36:55.159 --> 01:37:00.079 German immigrant and that made it difficult for him. I 1676 01:37:00.159 --> 01:37:04.520 was an underlying cause against him, that was against him, 1677 01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:08.800 and also his lawyers totally incompetent. They met for him 1678 01:37:09.880 --> 01:37:16.600 very actually very few times, and they were incompetent. Then 1679 01:37:16.920 --> 01:37:21.680 you know, I wouldn't mention the witnesses, the witnesses who 1680 01:37:22.840 --> 01:37:26.399 testified him against him. One of the lead one was 1681 01:37:26.520 --> 01:37:31.239 John Condon, and in a police lineup and then in 1682 01:37:31.359 --> 01:37:36.640 a meeting with Helpman for an hour, he denied that 1683 01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:42.000 Haman was the man he had spoken with when ransom 1684 01:37:42.079 --> 01:37:43.319 money was transferred. 1685 01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:46.399 And I was going to ask you specifically about doctor 1686 01:37:46.479 --> 01:37:49.279 John Condon described as a key witness as the person 1687 01:37:49.359 --> 01:37:53.000 who acted as a mediator between Lindberg, who was the 1688 01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:57.199 alleged between Lindberg and the kidnappers. So Charles Lindberg still around, 1689 01:37:57.239 --> 01:37:59.680 He wants his son back. The kidnappers obviously, I guess 1690 01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:02.640 want their money there there there their their ransom demand. 1691 01:38:02.920 --> 01:38:05.720 How did this condom guy end up being the liaison 1692 01:38:05.800 --> 01:38:07.680 between the kidnappers and the Lindberg family. 1693 01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:12.920 He's really a strange person. He uh in the New 1694 01:38:13.039 --> 01:38:18.159 York area. He read about it. He contacted Lindbergh and said, 1695 01:38:18.319 --> 01:38:22.039 could I put a note in the paper asking the 1696 01:38:22.199 --> 01:38:25.920 kidnapper or kidnappers to contact me and I will act 1697 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:30.760 as a mediator. And so he came out of nowhere. 1698 01:38:31.520 --> 01:38:36.359 Was he himself involved in the kidnapping, that is a question, 1699 01:38:36.800 --> 01:38:42.800 But he popped up into the case totally an unknown factor. 1700 01:38:43.800 --> 01:38:48.520 And then he met on two occasions with a person 1701 01:38:48.840 --> 01:38:54.239 to transmit ransom money to him, and he spoke with 1702 01:38:54.359 --> 01:38:58.960 it with that person, and later on then he met 1703 01:38:59.039 --> 01:39:02.760 with Hautmann and jail, but he denied that that was 1704 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:06.680 the person he had spoken with. But then on the 1705 01:39:07.720 --> 01:39:10.119 during the trial he said he was a person. 1706 01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:13.520 H change your heart there, No, that's not the guy. Yes, 1707 01:39:13.600 --> 01:39:16.359 it is the guy. As a red flag harr Holtzman, 1708 01:39:16.439 --> 01:39:18.640 let's pause. 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Then there 1753 01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:17.680 is an accident on eastbound Viterrels Ramp to ridg single 1754 01:41:17.760 --> 01:41:20.039 car wreck with the car into the wall enter an 1755 01:41:20.079 --> 01:41:24.000 accident on Cincinnati Dayton at Princeton, took down a utility pole. 1756 01:41:24.399 --> 01:41:27.279 Chuck Ingramont fifty five krc the talk station. 1757 01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:31.960 It's seven forty fifty five KRCD talk station Brot Thomas 1758 01:41:32.039 --> 01:41:36.439 with Don Henry Toltzman with a really fascinating story. He's 1759 01:41:36.479 --> 01:41:38.560 the editor of the book we're talking about I Am Innocent, 1760 01:41:38.640 --> 01:41:42.680 a statement from the death cell. We're talking about the 1761 01:41:43.279 --> 01:41:47.479 alleged killer of Charles Lindbergh Junior, the son of the 1762 01:41:47.640 --> 01:41:50.439 great Charles Lindberg, first person to fly across the Atlantic, 1763 01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:56.279 a real, genuine, true world global hero in a picture 1764 01:41:56.279 --> 01:41:57.920 on the front of all the newspapers around the globe 1765 01:41:57.920 --> 01:41:59.439 for a long period of time. They're just a very 1766 01:41:59.439 --> 01:42:02.039 famous man. He was so of course, his son being 1767 01:42:02.159 --> 01:42:05.680 kidnapped and ultimately murdered drew the attention of the American people. 1768 01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:09.520 And this guy, the person who was convicted, Bruno Richard 1769 01:42:09.560 --> 01:42:13.319 Houtman wrote a book in German and that's what Harr 1770 01:42:13.359 --> 01:42:17.680 Toltzman has uh has translated into English, so it's his words. 1771 01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:21.840 But also the commentaries were learning from Don Toltzman about 1772 01:42:21.960 --> 01:42:24.960 why this was probably a total farce this trial. And 1773 01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:29.399 as I read your notes, Don Man, this guy was 1774 01:42:30.079 --> 01:42:31.239 he was railroaded. 1775 01:42:32.720 --> 01:42:36.880 Absolutely, he was completely railroaded. And I said also earlier 1776 01:42:36.960 --> 01:42:42.279 he had been severely beaten, almost beaten to death. And yeah, 1777 01:42:42.479 --> 01:42:46.119 attempted to be bribed, and the witnesses were, uh, condom 1778 01:42:46.319 --> 01:42:52.000 was completely the mainness was unreliable. Other witnesses. One said 1779 01:42:52.039 --> 01:42:54.600 he had seen Houtman near the Lindbergh home, but he 1780 01:42:54.760 --> 01:42:57.119 was partially blind in one eye. 1781 01:42:57.279 --> 01:42:58.039 Reasonable doubt. 1782 01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:03.960 Another witness was paid for by his testimony by the police. 1783 01:43:05.640 --> 01:43:09.720 And another witness said they had seen him near the 1784 01:43:09.800 --> 01:43:13.960 Lindbergh home in a green car, but Helpman had a 1785 01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:17.199 blue car. Now, there were other witnesses that said Haman 1786 01:43:18.399 --> 01:43:21.800 testified that he had picked up his wife as per usual, 1787 01:43:22.880 --> 01:43:28.760 from a bakery in New York. There were several testified 1788 01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:32.840 he was there. They were completely blown away and ignored. 1789 01:43:33.600 --> 01:43:38.439 And so the whole thing about the witnesses is absurd 1790 01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:41.319 and I think maybe you as a lawyer could understand 1791 01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:42.319 that readily. 1792 01:43:43.239 --> 01:43:43.640 Yeah, and. 1793 01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:48.880 The ransom notes another thing they said that so called 1794 01:43:48.920 --> 01:43:51.760 experts said that he had written them. Well, the police 1795 01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:56.560 told him to exactly copy the ransom notes. He was 1796 01:43:56.560 --> 01:44:01.319 supposed to exactly meet him a whole day, night and 1797 01:44:01.439 --> 01:44:06.199 day to copy them. Looked exactly like the ransom notes. 1798 01:44:06.680 --> 01:44:09.880 Then they had the so called efforts, say, look at 1799 01:44:10.079 --> 01:44:13.199 what he wrote the same as the ransom notes, but. 1800 01:44:13.239 --> 01:44:14.960 That he did what he was instructed to do, which 1801 01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:17.920 was mimic the handwriting in the ransom notes rather than 1802 01:44:18.079 --> 01:44:22.479 penned in his own hand. Yes, oh that's insane. Now, 1803 01:44:22.600 --> 01:44:25.520 you know, any effective lawyer would have blown these witnesses 1804 01:44:25.560 --> 01:44:29.439 away on cross examination. You could create reasonable doubts so easily. 1805 01:44:29.800 --> 01:44:31.319 What the hell was this? What was the deal with 1806 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:31.960 Edward J. 1807 01:44:32.439 --> 01:44:38.960 Riley his attorney, Well, the Riley was really incompetent. He 1808 01:44:39.039 --> 01:44:43.159 spent a total of about forty minutes, only forty minutes. 1809 01:44:43.199 --> 01:44:45.800 Most of the meetings with Hautman last at five minutes. 1810 01:44:46.279 --> 01:44:49.880 He was often intoxicated, he was a big blow hard, 1811 01:44:50.680 --> 01:44:57.039 and it was completely incompetent. So his lawyers were also, 1812 01:44:57.800 --> 01:45:00.279 you know, there was an assistant lawner, but they were 1813 01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:06.640 really incompetent. And then there was other evidence. One thing 1814 01:45:06.720 --> 01:45:11.560 that they talked about was the wooden ladder that was used. Yeah, well, 1815 01:45:13.119 --> 01:45:17.359 when they first searched Houtman's garage, they couldn't find They 1816 01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:21.600 didn't find anything, but then later they found a board 1817 01:45:22.399 --> 01:45:25.439 that they said matched the wood used on the ladder. 1818 01:45:26.079 --> 01:45:29.640 Well it obviously looks to have been planted there by 1819 01:45:29.720 --> 01:45:33.359 the police. And when you looked at the ladder, it 1820 01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:38.000 did not even reach the window of the Lindbergh home. 1821 01:45:40.279 --> 01:45:43.479 And also it wouldn't have held somebody of haut Month's weight. 1822 01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:46.279 I think there was a test done on and one 1823 01:45:46.319 --> 01:45:51.279 of the lower rungs of the ladder broke. And also 1824 01:45:52.680 --> 01:45:57.319 it was about two feet below the window the second 1825 01:45:57.359 --> 01:46:00.279 floor of the Lindbergh home. And so how somebody could 1826 01:46:00.359 --> 01:46:03.800 have crawled out of the window carrying a like a 1827 01:46:03.920 --> 01:46:11.680 thirty pound infant and get down there was incredibly well, 1828 01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:17.560 you know. And also Lindberg's her Heutman's fingerprints were found nowhere, 1829 01:46:18.479 --> 01:46:23.039 and so the whole case really looks like a farce. 1830 01:46:23.279 --> 01:46:30.399 And also I alluded to a recent research by Lisa Pearlman, 1831 01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:35.000 who has a book called the Lindberg Kidnapping Suspect Number One, 1832 01:46:35.079 --> 01:46:41.640 The Man who Got Away, and she convincingly argues that 1833 01:46:41.720 --> 01:46:46.239 it was Charles Lindberg who masterminded the whole kidnapping what 1834 01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:48.119 that he was behind it. 1835 01:46:49.319 --> 01:46:52.039 Base of all, I don't go down too too far 1836 01:46:52.119 --> 01:46:54.760 down that Lisa Pearlman rabbit hole. But based upon what 1837 01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:57.800 why would Lindbergh want to have his own son kidnapped? 1838 01:47:00.000 --> 01:47:07.000 The Sun had Ricketts, which a disease reals were results 1839 01:47:07.079 --> 01:47:14.520 in bowed legs. He was considered had mentally deficient. Lindbergh 1840 01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:20.479 believed in eugenics and genetic superiority and purity. 1841 01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:23.520 And he was an anti semi too. He was an 1842 01:47:23.520 --> 01:47:27.159 anti semi too, if I recall my history correctly, it. 1843 01:47:27.239 --> 01:47:30.199 Was an anti semi. He went to Nazi Germany and 1844 01:47:30.319 --> 01:47:36.239 he received an award from the Nazi regime. He was 1845 01:47:36.359 --> 01:47:40.479 criticized for it, but he refused to return the reward, 1846 01:47:41.239 --> 01:47:45.520 Whereas I should say from my research, other German Americans 1847 01:47:45.920 --> 01:47:52.199 would not accept any medal or award from Nazi Germany. Now, 1848 01:47:52.239 --> 01:47:55.239 when they did the autopsy of the of the infant, 1849 01:47:55.800 --> 01:48:00.880 they found that parts of it were organ had been 1850 01:48:00.960 --> 01:48:07.279 removed surgically. And in this recent publication I mentioned, it 1851 01:48:07.439 --> 01:48:11.079 was found that Lindbergh was in touch with a surgeon 1852 01:48:12.119 --> 01:48:14.000 and it thought that. 1853 01:48:14.680 --> 01:48:15.840 The baby was. 1854 01:48:17.439 --> 01:48:20.920 Operated on to investigate what was the cause of his 1855 01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:24.279 of the rickets and the disease, and this related to 1856 01:48:25.079 --> 01:48:29.680 Lindbergh's in the same belief in eugenics. He couldn't understand 1857 01:48:29.720 --> 01:48:36.039 that he fathered a physically diseased child. 1858 01:48:36.840 --> 01:48:40.640 So it's in case itself. 1859 01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:44.359 I mean, the trial was an absolute farce. It wasn't 1860 01:48:45.439 --> 01:48:49.920 he was and he he was browbeaten too during Houtmann, 1861 01:48:50.000 --> 01:48:54.159 during the trial wasn't given a chance to tell his story. 1862 01:48:54.359 --> 01:48:58.920 So that's why I edited his autobiography, which he wrote 1863 01:48:58.960 --> 01:49:01.600 in a jail cell, and to give him a chance 1864 01:49:01.760 --> 01:49:04.359 to listen to what he had to say, because he 1865 01:49:04.479 --> 01:49:07.800 didn't get a chance. He was mocked and browbeaten and 1866 01:49:08.039 --> 01:49:09.119 physically beaten. 1867 01:49:09.600 --> 01:49:14.399 Well. So I got a couple of questions though, considering 1868 01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:16.920 all of this damning evidence in so far as the 1869 01:49:16.960 --> 01:49:19.479 prosecution and the in the in the prosecutorial conduct from 1870 01:49:19.520 --> 01:49:22.159 law enforcement all the way through trial. First off, real 1871 01:49:22.279 --> 01:49:28.359 quick here, harr Holman, uh Toltsman, how did they finger 1872 01:49:29.199 --> 01:49:31.680 Houtman as the guy the suspect? I mean, what brought 1873 01:49:31.760 --> 01:49:33.680 him into the field division of law enforcement in the 1874 01:49:33.760 --> 01:49:36.319 first place? Given all of this, you know, exculpatory evidence 1875 01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:38.479 that's floating around the. 1876 01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:44.079 Reason that he was arrested, was that he uh the 1877 01:49:44.479 --> 01:49:50.359 the ransom money that had been given to the person 1878 01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:55.159 that Condon met at a cemetery. At the serial numbers 1879 01:49:55.239 --> 01:50:01.039 haven't copied. Well, a couple of years later than Haupman 1880 01:50:01.359 --> 01:50:04.439 had gone to a gas station and he had paid 1881 01:50:05.399 --> 01:50:12.840 for a gasoline with one of the bank and it 1882 01:50:13.039 --> 01:50:15.720 was a what was called a silver certificate, and they 1883 01:50:15.760 --> 01:50:20.319 were being turned in at that time, and so the 1884 01:50:20.399 --> 01:50:25.560 serial numbers were copied and when the attendant there noticed that, 1885 01:50:25.760 --> 01:50:29.319 and he contacted the police about it, and they he 1886 01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:34.840 had copied on the license number on Haupman's car, and 1887 01:50:34.960 --> 01:50:38.600 so they traced it to him, and that's the way 1888 01:50:38.640 --> 01:50:39.439 he identified it. 1889 01:50:39.800 --> 01:50:42.479 But given its years years later though that it's a 1890 01:50:42.560 --> 01:50:46.439 possibility that the actual ransom recipient had passed those notes 1891 01:50:46.479 --> 01:50:48.560 around and he just ended up with one in his pocket. 1892 01:50:50.479 --> 01:50:51.640 Well, that's true. 1893 01:50:51.800 --> 01:50:58.159 And the ransom money also was turned in at various 1894 01:50:58.319 --> 01:51:02.000 banks around the country, even in the Midwest. Three thousand 1895 01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:05.319 dollars were turned in at a bank in New York 1896 01:51:05.399 --> 01:51:09.640 City and none of these notes had any connection to 1897 01:51:09.720 --> 01:51:10.159 hout Mon. 1898 01:51:10.319 --> 01:51:11.000 He wasn't there. 1899 01:51:13.600 --> 01:51:15.840 He said that it had been given to him to 1900 01:51:15.920 --> 01:51:20.159 a business associate who had returned to Germany where he died, 1901 01:51:20.960 --> 01:51:26.880 and so his name happened to be fish and the 1902 01:51:27.000 --> 01:51:31.960 police mocked that story that that his fround had given 1903 01:51:32.039 --> 01:51:32.479 him when. 1904 01:51:32.439 --> 01:51:33.720 They called it a fishy story. 1905 01:51:33.840 --> 01:51:40.399 So well, all the way around he was he was railroad. Yeah, clearly, 1906 01:51:40.600 --> 01:51:43.399 clearly I Heardtols were out of time. It's fascinating what 1907 01:51:43.479 --> 01:51:46.880 you've done here. And of course, obviously the extent of 1908 01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:50.640 the wrongdoing against the defendant, who ultimately paid the ultimate price. 1909 01:51:50.680 --> 01:51:53.800 They executed him, and apparently while he was waiting execution, 1910 01:51:53.920 --> 01:51:56.239 they offered him lean seeing he turned it down because 1911 01:51:56.279 --> 01:51:57.960 I'm not going to confess to a crime I didn't do. 1912 01:51:58.159 --> 01:52:00.479 So it sounds like getting nail on his on the 1913 01:52:00.560 --> 01:52:03.079 head here, don Heinrich Toltzman. I appreciate you doing the 1914 01:52:03.119 --> 01:52:05.600 translating and doing the commentary on the book, and I 1915 01:52:05.680 --> 01:52:07.039 know my listeners is gonna want to get it, which 1916 01:52:07.039 --> 01:52:09.000 they can do. Got a fifty five kres dot com 1917 01:52:09.039 --> 01:52:11.039 where Joe's got a link to the book on the page. 1918 01:52:11.560 --> 01:52:13.479 Don It's always great talking with you, my friend. Keep 1919 01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:14.920 up the great work. I'll look forward to having you 1920 01:52:15.000 --> 01:52:17.319 back on We have other German things to talk about. 1921 01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:19.880 Seven fifty one. Right now, we'll catch yourselves a crime stopper, 1922 01:52:19.960 --> 01:52:21.279 bad guy of the week here in a moment. Just 1923 01:52:21.319 --> 01:52:24.880 don't go away. First, I want to mention foreign exchange. 1924 01:52:24.880 --> 01:52:26.680 We can get your car fixed for less money. That's 1925 01:52:26.760 --> 01:52:29.479 the point of foreign exchange. You get your car fixed, 1926 01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:31.279 you get a full warranty on parts and service, an 1927 01:52:31.279 --> 01:52:35.199 ACE mechanical work on, an as certified Master technician working 1928 01:52:35.279 --> 01:52:37.800 on your car. So either got a traditionally Asian or 1929 01:52:37.880 --> 01:52:41.840 European manufacturer car or a Tesla. Yes, they fix teslas 1930 01:52:41.880 --> 01:52:43.680 at foreign exchange as well. Get it in there and 1931 01:52:43.760 --> 01:52:47.760 save a heapload of money. Just that's what it's all about. 1932 01:52:47.840 --> 01:52:50.479 And repairs are getting really expensive if you haven't noticed. 1933 01:52:51.199 --> 01:52:53.600 In fact, my son's got his car in there right 1934 01:52:53.760 --> 01:52:56.840 as I speak. Tylersville location is where that car is 1935 01:52:56.880 --> 01:52:59.119 sitting right now. To take the Tylersville likes it off 1936 01:52:59.159 --> 01:53:01.720 A seventy five go east just two streets and hanging 1937 01:53:01.760 --> 01:53:04.920 right on KINGLN online Foreign xform the letter X dot com. 1938 01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:07.279 Here's the number for Westchester five one three six four 1939 01:53:07.359 --> 01:53:10.279 four twenty six twenty six. That's six four four twenty 1940 01:53:10.319 --> 01:53:11.079 six twenty. 1941 01:53:10.920 --> 01:53:14.680 Six fifty five KRC men the Summer. 1942 01:53:15.640 --> 01:53:18.439 Seven fifty four fifty five k CD talk station. Let's 1943 01:53:18.479 --> 01:53:22.119 catch ourselves a crime stopper. Bad girl of the week, 1944 01:53:22.199 --> 01:53:25.079 most usually guys on the phone. On the phone, Tivity Green, 1945 01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:27.600 officer Green with crime Stoppers, since a police department. God 1946 01:53:27.640 --> 01:53:29.640 bless each and every member of law enforcement in the 1947 01:53:29.640 --> 01:53:32.279 greater Cincinnati area. Welcome back, Tiffany. Who are we looking 1948 01:53:32.319 --> 01:53:33.840 for today? She looks happy. 1949 01:53:35.359 --> 01:53:39.279 Cincinnati Police District four is looking for Danica Pew. Miss 1950 01:53:39.359 --> 01:53:42.880 Pew is wanted for felonious assault. On July ninth, at 1951 01:53:42.920 --> 01:53:46.039 twenty twenty five, Miss Pew was involved in a physical 1952 01:53:46.119 --> 01:53:50.560 altercation with another female. During the altercation, Miss Pew swung 1953 01:53:50.720 --> 01:53:53.800 a box cutter instruck the victim in the arm, causing 1954 01:53:53.920 --> 01:53:57.960 serious physical injuries. Danika Pew is a female Black. She's 1955 01:53:58.039 --> 01:54:01.279 forty one years old. She's five and one hundred and 1956 01:54:01.319 --> 01:54:05.239 sixty five pounds. Anica Pew has a history of aggravated 1957 01:54:05.279 --> 01:54:09.079 assault and telecommunication harassment and was last known to live 1958 01:54:09.159 --> 01:54:13.800 on Goldsen Avenue and Avondale. If anyone has information on 1959 01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:17.359 where police can find Anico Pew, please call crime Stoppers 1960 01:54:17.439 --> 01:54:21.079 at five one, three thirty five to two thirty forty 1961 01:54:21.319 --> 01:54:24.720 or submitted tip online at crime dask stoppers dot us. 1962 01:54:25.199 --> 01:54:27.840 Well, that's wonderful. You'll remain anonymous when you drop a 1963 01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:29.399 dime on her. If you tip, lease and the rescue 1964 01:54:29.399 --> 01:54:31.960 be eligible for a cash reward. And obviously we need 1965 01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:33.800 to get this very dangerous woman off the street. So 1966 01:54:33.880 --> 01:54:36.279 help out. Since police do their job, drop the dime, 1967 01:54:36.760 --> 01:54:39.079 Tivity Green. Her picture is on my blog page along 1968 01:54:39.119 --> 01:54:41.159 with her information fifty five carose dot com, so my 1969 01:54:41.239 --> 01:54:43.520 listeners can help out. I hope you arrest her soon. 1970 01:54:43.560 --> 01:54:45.079 And again, thank you for the work that you do 1971 01:54:45.199 --> 01:54:47.119 each and every day. Tiffany and all the other members 1972 01:54:47.119 --> 01:54:49.680 of Insant Police Department appreciate you very much, and so 1973 01:54:49.840 --> 01:54:52.119 to my listeners. Seven fifty six. Right now after the 1974 01:54:52.159 --> 01:54:55.239 top of the our news in studio, retired detective Jim 1975 01:54:55.279 --> 01:54:58.319 Grindle speaking of law enforcement. Lead detective with the Springdale 1976 01:54:58.319 --> 01:55:02.039 Police Department for thirty fi five years twenty one years 1977 01:55:02.119 --> 01:55:05.840 doing investigations before retiring in twenty thirteen. He's written a book, 1978 01:55:05.880 --> 01:55:10.199 Homicide Investigation. The interview. We'll talk with him after the news. 1979 01:55:10.239 --> 01:55:11.840 Hope you can stick right. You will be called the 1980 01:55:11.880 --> 01:55:13.840 twelve Day War. I suppose that's what we were nicknaming 1981 01:55:13.880 --> 01:55:14.359 it already. 1982 01:55:14.520 --> 01:55:16.880 Another update at the top of the hour, the use 1983 01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:18.520 of military force. 1984 01:55:18.560 --> 01:55:21.039 Fifty five KRS, the Talk station. 1985 01:55:21.600 --> 01:55:24.760 This reported Tom for the importance events of. 1986 01:55:24.840 --> 01:55:27.680 Today, very important events one Big Bill. 1987 01:55:27.680 --> 01:55:30.680 Chackie in deportations of illegal spot. 1988 01:55:30.199 --> 01:55:33.680 Throughout the day on fifty five KRC, the Talk station. 1989 01:55:36.560 --> 01:55:40.520 Tayto five here fifty five KRC, the Talk Station. It's 1990 01:55:40.560 --> 01:55:43.079 been a very happy Friday to you. Good to have 1991 01:55:43.279 --> 01:55:47.880 in studio detective retired detective Jim Grindle, who's written a 1992 01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:50.439 book Homicide Investigation. In the interview, Jim, good to have 1993 01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:51.880 you in studio and be able to see you face 1994 01:55:51.960 --> 01:55:53.399 to face and talk with you. And let me start 1995 01:55:53.439 --> 01:55:56.000 by thanking you for your storied career in law enforcement. 1996 01:55:56.159 --> 01:55:57.960 Well, I definitely appreciate that. Thank you for having me. 1997 01:55:58.079 --> 01:56:00.520 Happy to do it man, and I, as I told 1998 01:56:00.560 --> 01:56:04.600 you before when the mix came on, it's been my 1999 01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:08.039 experience in my coming up on sixty years that if 2000 01:56:08.079 --> 01:56:11.159 you're sitting across the table with a retired police officer 2001 01:56:11.319 --> 01:56:14.199 or an active police officer enjoying a beer, they're the 2002 01:56:14.279 --> 01:56:16.119 best people to talk with because they have the most 2003 01:56:16.159 --> 01:56:19.520 outlangious and crazy stories, real things that happened that never 2004 01:56:19.560 --> 01:56:22.079 happened anybody else because of, you know, being involved with 2005 01:56:22.119 --> 01:56:24.119 the criminal element. It's just it's crazy what you have 2006 01:56:24.199 --> 01:56:25.720 to deal with over the years, and we have a 2007 01:56:25.760 --> 01:56:27.520 lot of fun with the stories, for sure. Oh I 2008 01:56:27.640 --> 01:56:32.159 bet now you are not really retired right now, as 2009 01:56:32.199 --> 01:56:32.840 I understand. 2010 01:56:33.359 --> 01:56:33.399 No. 2011 01:56:33.600 --> 01:56:38.039 Actually, my career started back in nineteen seventy nine. Actively 2012 01:56:38.119 --> 01:56:42.960 retired in twenty thirteen following twenty one years in investigations. 2013 01:56:44.359 --> 01:56:47.159 The spread Down Police Department has a program which allows 2014 01:56:47.239 --> 01:56:50.000 officers to come back and work in an auxiliary position. 2015 01:56:51.279 --> 01:56:54.079 We don't do any active enforcement, but we do a 2016 01:56:54.119 --> 01:56:57.000 lot of the paper pushing and things like that. 2017 01:56:57.720 --> 01:57:00.000 Well, fair enough, but you've got to assault it. By 2018 01:57:00.159 --> 01:57:02.760 fourteen year old the other day, Well he was autistic, 2019 01:57:03.279 --> 01:57:06.000 and is this in the line of duty? This happened? 2020 01:57:06.079 --> 01:57:09.239 This was an off duty detail, okay, and he was 2021 01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:12.560 a regular at the church that we go to and 2022 01:57:13.199 --> 01:57:14.439 he was just having an episode. 2023 01:57:14.600 --> 01:57:17.800 I understand, Look, you were an out serving award or 2024 01:57:17.840 --> 01:57:18.359 something like that. 2025 01:57:18.600 --> 01:57:21.279 Was no, no, and it wasn't intentional on his part. 2026 01:57:21.319 --> 01:57:22.039 I don't believe either. 2027 01:57:22.399 --> 01:57:24.560 All right, Well that's good. Well, let's pivot over to 2028 01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:27.640 the homicide investigation. The interview. Explain to my listeners what 2029 01:57:27.800 --> 01:57:28.920 this book consists of. 2030 01:57:29.439 --> 01:57:32.479 Jim, Well, the book starts, well, basically, the reason for 2031 01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:37.079 the book was is during the interview, the individual portrayed 2032 01:57:37.119 --> 01:57:42.119 a lot of body language that was beyond just your 2033 01:57:42.159 --> 01:57:45.520 normal interviews. Pretty much displayed everything that you can actually 2034 01:57:45.600 --> 01:57:48.960 display during an interview. And I always thought, man, i'd 2035 01:57:49.000 --> 01:57:49.760 be great for a book. 2036 01:57:50.199 --> 01:57:53.000 So body language indicating a guilt. 2037 01:57:53.720 --> 01:57:57.479 Right, Well, it's basically a nonverbal communication, you know, through 2038 01:57:57.520 --> 01:58:02.760 body posturing, facial expressions, movements, and things of that nature. 2039 01:58:03.720 --> 01:58:06.399 And you know that it's a lot about signs of 2040 01:58:06.439 --> 01:58:10.279 deception or that they're not being truthful. And during the interview, So. 2041 01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:14.640 I imagine a young detective or someone in law enforcement 2042 01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:17.960 who's going to be interviewing suspects could learn a lot 2043 01:58:18.039 --> 01:58:18.279 from this. 2044 01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:19.640 Oh, I would hope. 2045 01:58:19.680 --> 01:58:22.560 So asks maybe one of the points you of your 2046 01:58:22.720 --> 01:58:23.600 putting the book together. 2047 01:58:23.840 --> 01:58:25.800 Well, the book's got a lot of clips in there 2048 01:58:25.840 --> 01:58:27.920 showing when I talk about the different kind of language 2049 01:58:28.159 --> 01:58:30.159 that he's portraying. It's there in the book, and there's 2050 01:58:30.159 --> 01:58:33.600 also a two our interview and it's entirety that could 2051 01:58:33.600 --> 01:58:34.319 be watched as well. 2052 01:58:34.479 --> 01:58:36.399 All Right, how how many years experience did you have 2053 01:58:36.640 --> 01:58:39.000 at the time you interviewed this suspect. 2054 01:58:39.960 --> 01:58:43.640 Maybe as a police officer about thirteen years, fourteen years, 2055 01:58:44.079 --> 01:58:46.319 Because as I understand it, and here you can be 2056 01:58:46.600 --> 01:58:48.760 correct me if I'm wrong. I mean, there's a real 2057 01:58:48.880 --> 01:58:52.399 skill in an art form to getting information out of witnesses. 2058 01:58:54.479 --> 01:58:57.039 I would agree with that. Basically, you pretty much got 2059 01:58:57.159 --> 01:58:59.399 to sit down as if we know each other, and 2060 01:58:59.680 --> 01:59:02.039 once get a little trust in you, they're more apt 2061 01:59:02.079 --> 01:59:03.279 to talk to you and tell you things that you 2062 01:59:03.359 --> 01:59:03.680 need to know. 2063 01:59:03.760 --> 01:59:05.479 All right, So being a bad cops not a good 2064 01:59:05.520 --> 01:59:06.880 idea under those circumstances. 2065 01:59:07.079 --> 01:59:08.159 It works for the good cops. 2066 01:59:08.680 --> 01:59:12.840 It works for the good cops. No, But is this 2067 01:59:12.960 --> 01:59:15.600 a learned skill, Like do you sit in a class, 2068 01:59:15.680 --> 01:59:18.479 a canet training class or some other follow up, you know, 2069 01:59:18.840 --> 01:59:22.720 continuing police education class to learn what you need to 2070 01:59:22.800 --> 01:59:24.720 do and how you need to conduct yourself the best 2071 01:59:24.800 --> 01:59:26.680 interview witnesses and get information out of them. 2072 01:59:27.199 --> 01:59:29.600 There are classes. I tell a lot of people that 2073 01:59:30.279 --> 01:59:33.279 are in this kind of you know job to watch 2074 01:59:33.359 --> 01:59:37.119 everybody's interviews and learn what you like about their approach, 2075 01:59:37.319 --> 01:59:39.239 what works for them, and then kind of develop that 2076 01:59:39.319 --> 01:59:42.680 into your own. The big thing with interviews, you got 2077 01:59:42.760 --> 01:59:45.319 to have a lot of patience. You got to you know, 2078 01:59:45.359 --> 01:59:47.840 get a report with the individuals. And I feel that 2079 01:59:47.960 --> 01:59:51.039 once people feel trusted with you, they people want to 2080 01:59:51.039 --> 01:59:54.159 brag about themselves. So it's not hard to get a confession. 2081 01:59:54.239 --> 01:59:56.840 Once you get that response, you know through them, he. 2082 01:59:57.000 --> 01:59:58.399 Is there have you learned over the years? I mean, 2083 01:59:58.439 --> 02:00:02.760 is there certain certain psychological profile that kind of fits 2084 02:00:02.840 --> 02:00:05.920 people who would commit very dangerous acts? I mean there 2085 02:00:06.000 --> 02:00:08.159 is no one size fits all? Or do they sort 2086 02:00:08.199 --> 02:00:12.520 of fall into a pattern if I can call it that. 2087 02:00:12.760 --> 02:00:14.399 I don't know if I agree with that. I mean 2088 02:00:14.520 --> 02:00:17.479 I've sat down with people where you think absolutely could 2089 02:00:17.560 --> 02:00:19.560 not have done something like this and find out they did. 2090 02:00:21.680 --> 02:00:24.720 My philosophy is always, you know, I assume everybody's guilty 2091 02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:26.520 until I prove am innocent. So that way, I'm not 2092 02:00:26.640 --> 02:00:27.520 lazy about what I do. 2093 02:00:28.039 --> 02:00:30.479 Fair enough, Now, how much advanced work do you have 2094 02:00:30.560 --> 02:00:33.159 to do before you're interviewing someone? Evidence gathering, you know, 2095 02:00:33.640 --> 02:00:36.800 the crime scene information photographs. Do you use all that 2096 02:00:37.000 --> 02:00:38.840 incorporated in your interview or you just kind of hit 2097 02:00:38.880 --> 02:00:39.680 the ground running with it. 2098 02:00:39.960 --> 02:00:42.680 Well, in this case here, I kind of spent about 2099 02:00:42.680 --> 02:00:44.359 two days to getting prepared because there was a lot 2100 02:00:44.359 --> 02:00:47.279 of paperwork involved in it, and when I do the 2101 02:00:47.359 --> 02:00:50.880 interview that that stuff is on my table. I use 2102 02:00:50.920 --> 02:00:54.720 a lot of that as props. Actually, there's times where 2103 02:00:54.720 --> 02:00:57.760 I will take out photographs of the victim or of 2104 02:00:57.880 --> 02:01:00.840 things that are uncomfortable source be sure, and I will 2105 02:01:00.920 --> 02:01:02.880 leave them out there and during the interview just kind 2106 02:01:02.880 --> 02:01:04.880 of watch his response and how he reacts to the 2107 02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:06.800 photographs and stuff that are sitting in front of him. 2108 02:01:06.880 --> 02:01:09.319 All right, let's turn specifically to the subject matter of 2109 02:01:09.359 --> 02:01:12.760 the interview in your book, homicide Investigation the interview, what 2110 02:01:12.960 --> 02:01:14.880 was he what was he suspected of? 2111 02:01:14.960 --> 02:01:19.439 When you were interviewing, Well, there was a robbery that 2112 02:01:19.520 --> 02:01:23.920 occurred involving three Hispanic males in an apartment complex there 2113 02:01:23.960 --> 02:01:29.439 in Springdale. After that robbery occurred and the fleeing of 2114 02:01:29.479 --> 02:01:32.720 that vehicle, an individual shot. He's actually one of the 2115 02:01:32.760 --> 02:01:36.319 people that was, you know, involved in the actual robbery. Right, 2116 02:01:36.720 --> 02:01:42.239 So basically it's an accidental shooting by bad guy in Ohio. 2117 02:01:42.399 --> 02:01:45.319 Though that would only basically be you know, an accidental 2118 02:01:45.720 --> 02:01:49.239 accident shooting, but the fact they're leaving a homicide or 2119 02:01:49.640 --> 02:01:52.319 a robber, I should say, uh, it would make a felony, 2120 02:01:52.439 --> 02:01:56.119 and therefore, you know, a homicide. 2121 02:01:55.680 --> 02:01:59.960 And anybody involved in the crime where the homicide happened 2122 02:02:00.239 --> 02:02:03.520 is himself or herself also going to be charged with 2123 02:02:03.760 --> 02:02:04.560 that homicide. 2124 02:02:04.760 --> 02:02:07.039 That's correct, And the purpose of the interview was one 2125 02:02:07.119 --> 02:02:10.399 to establish they were involved in the actual robbery and 2126 02:02:10.560 --> 02:02:13.119 who actually fired the round that killed Lamore. 2127 02:02:13.680 --> 02:02:15.920 And I presume at the outset of the interview the 2128 02:02:15.960 --> 02:02:17.359 guy denied even being there. 2129 02:02:19.079 --> 02:02:21.199 This was a two hour timide interview, and it wasn't 2130 02:02:21.279 --> 02:02:22.800 until about an hour and a half into it that 2131 02:02:22.840 --> 02:02:25.239 we actually got something out of him that put him there. 2132 02:02:25.520 --> 02:02:28.319 Okay, well, what was your first indication that you had 2133 02:02:28.319 --> 02:02:28.840 the right guy? 2134 02:02:29.640 --> 02:02:30.399 When he sat down? 2135 02:02:31.039 --> 02:02:31.600 Sat down? 2136 02:02:33.239 --> 02:02:35.800 Well, the reason I say that is the work had 2137 02:02:35.800 --> 02:02:38.159 already been done, the search works were done. We had 2138 02:02:38.600 --> 02:02:42.159 text messaging and we had phone records. Oh so when 2139 02:02:42.199 --> 02:02:44.119 we said down, we pretty much knew everything we were 2140 02:02:44.159 --> 02:02:45.039 going to be asking him. 2141 02:02:45.880 --> 02:02:49.640 Then, Okay, well, when confronted with hard evidence like well, 2142 02:02:49.720 --> 02:02:52.399 here's your cell phone, here's the text information back and forth, 2143 02:02:52.439 --> 02:02:54.359 and this is why it's relevant to this particular case, 2144 02:02:54.840 --> 02:02:56.840 how did someone just deny that? All right? I presume 2145 02:02:56.880 --> 02:02:58.079 it's some measure of the guy denied it. 2146 02:02:58.560 --> 02:03:02.319 No, he denied, strong, strong denials with his non involvement 2147 02:03:02.399 --> 02:03:04.920 of it. But uh, and actually it's kind of interesting 2148 02:03:05.000 --> 02:03:07.359 that the photograph is sitting in front of him. He 2149 02:03:07.520 --> 02:03:10.600 actually turns around and actually points out and says she 2150 02:03:10.800 --> 02:03:14.520 did it, and starts actually pointing on the photograph. 2151 02:03:17.439 --> 02:03:20.319 I said, that's rather damning. Under the circumstances, he can't 2152 02:03:20.359 --> 02:03:22.960 say you weren't there and then identify someone who was 2153 02:03:23.039 --> 02:03:24.239 involved with it if you weren't there. 2154 02:03:24.800 --> 02:03:25.640 That don't work very well. 2155 02:03:25.680 --> 02:03:28.840 It doesn't work well. So what's a guy's reaction like 2156 02:03:28.880 --> 02:03:30.439 that when he pointed out to him? He's denied it, 2157 02:03:30.520 --> 02:03:32.680 denied it, and then he points to the photograph, said 2158 02:03:32.720 --> 02:03:34.840 she did it? I mean, did you see Well, wait 2159 02:03:34.880 --> 02:03:37.640 a second, U said, you weren't there. How is it 2160 02:03:37.720 --> 02:03:38.399 you know she did it? 2161 02:03:39.119 --> 02:03:41.279 Well, the other problem was who was driving the car? 2162 02:03:41.319 --> 02:03:44.359 Who actually fired around? So at this point he claims 2163 02:03:44.399 --> 02:03:45.960 now that he's the driver of the car and had 2164 02:03:46.000 --> 02:03:47.920 nothing to do with actually firing around that killed him. 2165 02:03:48.439 --> 02:03:51.039 But truly that doesn't really matter under the circumstances because 2166 02:03:51.079 --> 02:03:56.119 again he was involved in the crime. That's correct, all right, Well, 2167 02:03:56.520 --> 02:03:59.560 what is one of the more interesting sort of developments 2168 02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:02.159 during this interview that you knew you had the right guy. 2169 02:04:02.319 --> 02:04:04.439 I guess because I'm just kind of wondering how this 2170 02:04:04.600 --> 02:04:05.399 all unfolds. 2171 02:04:06.520 --> 02:04:08.680 Well, when he first sits down and everything, you know, 2172 02:04:08.960 --> 02:04:11.000 the two of them were best friends. They grew up 2173 02:04:11.239 --> 02:04:15.520 in school together Princeton. The person was actually killed was 2174 02:04:15.560 --> 02:04:18.760 an upcoming football sensation. They thought he'd make it actually 2175 02:04:18.800 --> 02:04:23.119 to the NFL, and he played off the fact that 2176 02:04:23.199 --> 02:04:25.680 they were great, you know, great friends and everything. And 2177 02:04:26.640 --> 02:04:30.640 when the shooting took place. Lamar didn't actually pass the 2178 02:04:30.760 --> 02:04:33.119 night of the shooting. It was a couple of days thereafter. 2179 02:04:33.960 --> 02:04:37.640 And this individual would actually stay with the family, you know, 2180 02:04:37.840 --> 02:04:39.560 as a friend and everything else. And he had no 2181 02:04:39.640 --> 02:04:42.039 idea that he was actually part of the homicide while 2182 02:04:42.079 --> 02:04:43.479 he was living with an household. 2183 02:04:44.800 --> 02:04:47.600 All right, well, we'll bring Jim Grendel back again. Storied 2184 02:04:47.680 --> 02:04:49.960 law enforcement crew with the Springdale Police Department. He's been 2185 02:04:50.000 --> 02:04:53.640 involved in a lot of different cases, some fascinating ones 2186 02:04:53.640 --> 02:04:55.399 to me. We can touch base on a few more 2187 02:04:55.439 --> 02:04:57.359 of those and talk about his career in law enforcement. 2188 02:04:57.439 --> 02:05:01.119 God bless those in law enforcement. Grinnell will continue. It's 2189 02:05:01.319 --> 02:05:03.680 eighty fifteen right now, fifty five K see talk station be. 2190 02:05:03.760 --> 02:05:08.960 Right back fifty five car the talk station our iHeartRadio music. 2191 02:05:09.000 --> 02:05:13.479 Fifth Here is your channel nine first one and oneforecast 2192 02:05:13.520 --> 02:05:17.079 gets some showers and storms possible. Today eighty five is 2193 02:05:17.119 --> 02:05:18.720 going to be our high. Overnight lowes is seventy one, 2194 02:05:18.760 --> 02:05:23.000 with more opportunities for some rain slim though, let's see 2195 02:05:23.079 --> 02:05:26.159 better chances storms begin around one pm tomorrow the little 2196 02:05:26.279 --> 02:05:29.199 chance in the morning. Tomorrow's high eighty six seventy two. 2197 02:05:29.239 --> 02:05:32.359 Overnight there'll be very humid and also a chance of 2198 02:05:32.479 --> 02:05:35.840 some rain. Finally, for Sunday, very humid again and another 2199 02:05:35.960 --> 02:05:38.079 chance of some rain eighty seven for the high end. 2200 02:05:38.359 --> 02:05:40.640 Right now, it's seventy three degrees. Time for a traffic update. 2201 02:05:40.760 --> 02:05:43.199 Chuck from the UCL Tramphic Center. 2202 02:05:43.319 --> 02:05:45.960 The U S Health Brain Tumor Center finds answers for 2203 02:05:46.119 --> 02:05:47.920 some of the most complex brain tumors. 2204 02:05:48.199 --> 02:05:50.680 Learn more at uce help dot com. 2205 02:05:51.119 --> 02:05:54.279 Cruise continue to work to clear an accident eastbound Virals 2206 02:05:54.359 --> 02:05:57.359 Ramp to Ridge Sat Pound seventy five. Slow's a bit 2207 02:05:57.399 --> 02:05:59.479 at the Ragan Highway than a bit more below the 2208 02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:04.399 west Finish viabug into downtown Southbomb two seventy five breakwaites 2209 02:06:04.479 --> 02:06:07.399 between the Lawrence Burn Ramp and the Carroll Cropper Bridge. 2210 02:06:07.800 --> 02:06:11.079 Chuck ingramon fifty five krc DE talk station. 2211 02:06:12.800 --> 02:06:15.800 Eight eighteen here fifty fouo KRCD talk station. Jim Grindle 2212 02:06:16.720 --> 02:06:19.960 retired from the springdalf Police Department, and he did a 2213 02:06:20.000 --> 02:06:22.800 whole bunch of years as a police officer but also 2214 02:06:22.800 --> 02:06:25.119 an investigator. I'm talking about one of the cases he 2215 02:06:25.239 --> 02:06:29.439 did an interview on and ultimately the suspect was incarcerated 2216 02:06:29.720 --> 02:06:34.479 homicide investigation. The interview, it's a very interesting work of 2217 02:06:34.600 --> 02:06:36.079 you know, how you get information out of a guy 2218 02:06:36.119 --> 02:06:39.680 who's in absolute, outright denial and lying to you through 2219 02:06:39.720 --> 02:06:42.239 his teeth. I thought it was a rather funny exchange, Jim, 2220 02:06:42.279 --> 02:06:45.039 you're He says, I wasn't there, I wasn't in the car. 2221 02:06:45.119 --> 02:06:47.079 I wasn't in the car. And you say, wait a second, 2222 02:06:47.319 --> 02:06:49.840 I got your phone records. Man, we know you were there. 2223 02:06:50.399 --> 02:06:53.359 And he denied even knowing the woman that was involved 2224 02:06:53.399 --> 02:06:56.039 in the crime, although he had like twenty two different 2225 02:06:56.079 --> 02:06:58.640 phone calls tour. I mean, this guy was just an 2226 02:06:58.720 --> 02:07:01.039 exercise of futility in his denials. 2227 02:07:01.600 --> 02:07:03.960 Well, he only claimed to note for a short period 2228 02:07:03.960 --> 02:07:05.880 of time, but because of those records, we know that 2229 02:07:06.000 --> 02:07:08.159 the actual robbery has been playing like four days in 2230 02:07:08.279 --> 02:07:10.880 prior to that, and that they'd actually known each other 2231 02:07:11.000 --> 02:07:11.880 for over a week. 2232 02:07:12.640 --> 02:07:15.000 Wow, how did the person get shot because it was 2233 02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:15.960 an accidental shooting? 2234 02:07:16.000 --> 02:07:18.840 He said, well, well, well, one of them was driving 2235 02:07:18.880 --> 02:07:21.159 the car. And I really don't want to throw the 2236 02:07:21.239 --> 02:07:24.479 actual shooter out yet here because it's in the book 2237 02:07:24.520 --> 02:07:26.119 and I think it'd be interesting for people to kind 2238 02:07:26.159 --> 02:07:29.479 of it's a hoody type thing. Sure, But in the 2239 02:07:29.800 --> 02:07:32.159 in the getaway leaving the crime scene of the robbery, 2240 02:07:32.880 --> 02:07:36.159 he shot the another individual gets shot is in the 2241 02:07:36.199 --> 02:07:36.960 front seat of the car. 2242 02:07:37.199 --> 02:07:39.600 It was an accident. The shot came from the back seat. 2243 02:07:39.680 --> 02:07:40.800 So you ever see pulp fiction? 2244 02:07:41.399 --> 02:07:42.079 I did not see that. 2245 02:07:42.239 --> 02:07:44.560 Oh well, there's a scene in pulp fiction the the 2246 02:07:44.800 --> 02:07:47.800 uh one of the gangsters in the front of the 2247 02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:50.840 car and he's got his forty five automatic but he 2248 02:07:50.960 --> 02:07:53.359 has his finger on the trigger and he's talking to 2249 02:07:53.439 --> 02:07:55.640 a kid that's in the back seat asking him a question, 2250 02:07:55.840 --> 02:07:58.199 and the gun goes off and it blows the kid's 2251 02:07:58.239 --> 02:08:00.720 head off. As a total accident, But that's sounds analogous 2252 02:08:00.760 --> 02:08:04.000 to what happens. That's pretty much what happened. Okay, keep 2253 02:08:04.039 --> 02:08:06.520 your finger off the trigger unless you are intending to 2254 02:08:06.640 --> 02:08:10.479 shoot the firearm. A little lesson there. So it's called 2255 02:08:10.479 --> 02:08:14.239 the homicide investigation. The interview, real fascinating stuff with Jim. Jim, 2256 02:08:14.319 --> 02:08:18.079 I understand you have another book in the works. What's 2257 02:08:18.119 --> 02:08:18.680 that one about? 2258 02:08:19.159 --> 02:08:22.439 That's actually a homicide from nineteen ninety nine. It's the 2259 02:08:22.560 --> 02:08:26.960 Walker It's gonna be the Walker Files. It's a sixty 2260 02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:28.920 seven year old man that was beaten to death in 2261 02:08:28.960 --> 02:08:32.960 his home. We know that the people response before the 2262 02:08:33.039 --> 02:08:36.640 death or out of the Indianapolis, Indiana area, two people 2263 02:08:36.680 --> 02:08:40.359 were actually apprehended for using the credit cards after about 2264 02:08:40.359 --> 02:08:44.640 a thirty day surveillance of some gas stations, and then 2265 02:08:44.760 --> 02:08:49.960 from there some other suspects were they're really strong, strong, 2266 02:08:50.399 --> 02:08:52.119 you know, people of ventures. Because of some of the 2267 02:08:52.159 --> 02:08:54.760 things that occurred in Indianapolis and also here in Cincinnati, 2268 02:08:54.840 --> 02:08:56.880 we could put them in the locations here. 2269 02:08:56.960 --> 02:09:00.199 All right, So another sort of who done it? And 2270 02:09:00.640 --> 02:09:02.399 a crime book in the works. We're here from Jim 2271 02:09:02.479 --> 02:09:04.159 on that one. After it's out and done, make sure 2272 02:09:04.199 --> 02:09:04.960 you give me a copy of it. 2273 02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:06.279 Absolutely. 2274 02:09:07.159 --> 02:09:09.000 Let me just get your comments and thoughts about we. 2275 02:09:09.800 --> 02:09:12.000 I'm a huge supporter of law enforcement. You know that 2276 02:09:12.119 --> 02:09:13.680 we've already talked about it, and I think you were 2277 02:09:13.720 --> 02:09:15.640 aware from listening to the show. My sister retired from 2278 02:09:15.640 --> 02:09:20.880 the Cincinni Police Department after twenty five years of career 2279 02:09:20.960 --> 02:09:24.960 law enforcement. Your perception of what's going on now? We 2280 02:09:25.159 --> 02:09:29.600 have a difficult time recruiting police officers now, the defund 2281 02:09:29.680 --> 02:09:31.640 the police, the police are all a bunch of racists. 2282 02:09:31.720 --> 02:09:34.880 You know that kind of narrative has permeated through the society. 2283 02:09:35.319 --> 02:09:37.760 Are since a police departments down one hundred and fifty officers. 2284 02:09:37.800 --> 02:09:39.520 They're losing more and more every day. I know they 2285 02:09:39.600 --> 02:09:41.199 got some classes lined up and they're trying to do 2286 02:09:41.319 --> 02:09:44.640 some lateral hires. What's your take on law enforcement right now? 2287 02:09:45.000 --> 02:09:46.600 You know, for someone out there that maybe consider for 2288 02:09:46.680 --> 02:09:49.439 a career, and do you think things have kind of 2289 02:09:51.039 --> 02:09:53.479 run off the rails as we exist in a society 2290 02:09:53.520 --> 02:09:55.359 here relative to our perceptional law enforcement. 2291 02:09:55.920 --> 02:09:59.239 Well, from when I started in nineteen eighty, things have 2292 02:09:59.359 --> 02:10:02.359 come along way, and I say that not in a 2293 02:10:02.439 --> 02:10:05.680 good way. When you got law enforcement back then, it 2294 02:10:05.800 --> 02:10:08.520 was a brotherhood. It was something you really wanted to do. 2295 02:10:09.239 --> 02:10:11.680 Now it's a job for just money. I mean people 2296 02:10:11.760 --> 02:10:14.000 come and get to work. You know, I see people 2297 02:10:14.039 --> 02:10:16.920 turning down details to pay fifty five sixty dollars an hour. 2298 02:10:19.079 --> 02:10:21.720 There's not a strong brotherhood like there used to be. 2299 02:10:22.560 --> 02:10:24.720 And it's like you said that with the courts and 2300 02:10:24.920 --> 02:10:26.880 what they're doing now with the people that are you know, 2301 02:10:27.359 --> 02:10:30.399 I think what they do is they protect mostly the 2302 02:10:30.520 --> 02:10:34.880 bad people and the people that are good people it's 2303 02:10:34.960 --> 02:10:35.720 just don't work for them. 2304 02:10:35.920 --> 02:10:37.920 Well, in your motivation to go into law enforcement, I 2305 02:10:37.960 --> 02:10:40.479 suppose comes out of your sense of community. You want 2306 02:10:40.520 --> 02:10:42.279 to help the community. You want to you know, get 2307 02:10:42.319 --> 02:10:45.199 the bad guys and see the justices served well. 2308 02:10:45.239 --> 02:10:47.600 With everything said like that, here I am forty four 2309 02:10:47.680 --> 02:10:49.199 years later and I still enjoy it like it was 2310 02:10:49.279 --> 02:10:50.319 the day one for me. 2311 02:10:50.520 --> 02:10:53.119 Yeah, well, one sense of community doesn't disappear with age. 2312 02:10:53.159 --> 02:10:55.319 I mean, you can become jaded and cynical, but it's 2313 02:10:55.359 --> 02:10:58.000 the reason you entered into law enforcement. And it's kind 2314 02:10:58.039 --> 02:11:00.439 of a shame that it's it's it's it's gotten the 2315 02:11:00.439 --> 02:11:02.680 way it has. And you're right, I said, the the 2316 02:11:03.000 --> 02:11:07.840 the core to the justice system, the key, you know, 2317 02:11:08.039 --> 02:11:11.520 leg on the stool of the justice system is holding 2318 02:11:11.640 --> 02:11:15.239 people accountable and and and you know, punishing them for 2319 02:11:15.279 --> 02:11:18.039 their crimes. It acts as a deterrent so that others 2320 02:11:18.119 --> 02:11:20.079 do not do it. He's that person's held out as 2321 02:11:20.119 --> 02:11:22.520 an example. Look what's going to happen to you if 2322 02:11:22.600 --> 02:11:24.760 you do the same damn thing, So you're not inclined 2323 02:11:24.760 --> 02:11:26.039 to do it. I wouldn't want to go to jail, 2324 02:11:26.079 --> 02:11:27.640 for God's sake. It's enough of a determ for me 2325 02:11:27.760 --> 02:11:30.000 to keep my nose clean my entire life. But if 2326 02:11:30.039 --> 02:11:34.359 you take that away, things runningm uck well. And with 2327 02:11:34.479 --> 02:11:36.359 that said, I mean I've worked with a lot of 2328 02:11:36.399 --> 02:11:38.880 great people. My career wouldn't be like it is without 2329 02:11:38.880 --> 02:11:42.840 the people I worked side by side with. And I 2330 02:11:42.920 --> 02:11:44.239 mean there's a lot of good people out there, and 2331 02:11:44.319 --> 02:11:45.640 then a lot of them have the same feelings I 2332 02:11:45.720 --> 02:11:48.079 do that this is a great career. I still recommend 2333 02:11:48.079 --> 02:11:49.840 it to people. Good for you, I'm glad so. 2334 02:11:50.479 --> 02:11:51.880 And that's what you put into it. I mean, if 2335 02:11:51.880 --> 02:11:53.319 you go into it with a you know, where you 2336 02:11:53.359 --> 02:11:55.159 get along with people, you like to work with people, 2337 02:11:56.439 --> 02:11:56.960 it'll work for. 2338 02:11:57.000 --> 02:11:59.399 You, right, And no one's going to tell anybody it's 2339 02:11:59.399 --> 02:12:01.680 an easy job, that's for sure, but it can be 2340 02:12:01.800 --> 02:12:05.920 very rewarding. It is, Yeah, well, Jim, it's been a 2341 02:12:05.960 --> 02:12:08.760 real pleasure having you in the studio talking. Joe's gonna 2342 02:12:08.760 --> 02:12:10.239 put your book up on my blog page P five 2343 02:12:10.279 --> 02:12:12.359 cars dot com. You look, did you publish this yourself 2344 02:12:12.439 --> 02:12:16.000 or do you have luckily published because you didn't go 2345 02:12:16.079 --> 02:12:17.000 to Chili Dog Press? 2346 02:12:17.079 --> 02:12:17.279 Did you? 2347 02:12:17.720 --> 02:12:23.039 I did not, now that ch asked me that that's 2348 02:12:23.079 --> 02:12:25.279 one I don't remember. I know exactly what it is. 2349 02:12:25.319 --> 02:12:26.319 I just can't say the name of it. 2350 02:12:26.439 --> 02:12:27.199 Now, that's all right. 2351 02:12:27.199 --> 02:12:29.760 It's a local right there off of Fairfax. 2352 02:12:29.920 --> 02:12:31.720 Joe put it on the blog page fifty five cars 2353 02:12:31.880 --> 02:12:34.520 dot com. I noted one more thing I gotta ask 2354 02:12:34.560 --> 02:12:36.359 you before we part company today, and I wish you 2355 02:12:36.479 --> 02:12:40.920 best of the weekend. The Russia White Plastic investigation is 2356 02:12:40.960 --> 02:12:42.600 one of the high profile cases you mentioned in the 2357 02:12:42.680 --> 02:12:44.479 liner notes on the back of the book. Real quick, 2358 02:12:44.520 --> 02:12:45.720 what's that all about? 2359 02:12:46.039 --> 02:12:48.279 Well, well, at what they were doing is they were 2360 02:12:48.319 --> 02:12:51.399 coming in and this was going on over the country. 2361 02:12:51.479 --> 02:12:56.159 But they were taking Now the credit cards are they 2362 02:12:56.159 --> 02:12:58.239 got the little strip on the backside of them. What 2363 02:12:58.319 --> 02:13:00.319 they were doing is they were they were in voting 2364 02:13:00.319 --> 02:13:03.680 them with you know, stuff that they stole information off 2365 02:13:03.760 --> 02:13:07.000 other cards. Then they would go to ATM machines and 2366 02:13:07.039 --> 02:13:09.800 start withdrawing money. And they were doing this all over 2367 02:13:09.880 --> 02:13:11.600 the country, and they were out of Turkey and some 2368 02:13:11.720 --> 02:13:14.720 people out of Russia, and Secrett Service did the majority 2369 02:13:14.760 --> 02:13:18.680 of that, but it started a lot. Actually in Springdale, 2370 02:13:18.960 --> 02:13:22.199 they went to a what was that a travel Yeah, 2371 02:13:22.279 --> 02:13:24.399 and they were taking the cards and putting nine thousand, 2372 02:13:24.479 --> 02:13:26.920 nine hundred and niney nine dollars on them, and that 2373 02:13:28.000 --> 02:13:29.359 started the investigation with us. 2374 02:13:29.479 --> 02:13:31.439 Well, and as you also worked with the FBI, got 2375 02:13:31.520 --> 02:13:34.199 secret service there, and you're involved in a multitude of 2376 02:13:34.239 --> 02:13:36.600 cases over your entire career. Jim, it's been a real 2377 02:13:36.640 --> 02:13:38.279 pleasure talking. Will you thank for putting it down on 2378 02:13:38.359 --> 02:13:40.800 paper and letting us enjoy and learn from your experience 2379 02:13:40.800 --> 02:13:41.800 as law enforcement officer. 2380 02:13:41.880 --> 02:13:42.880 Well, I appreciate you for having me. 2381 02:13:43.560 --> 02:13:45.520 It's been a real pleasure. Have a wonderful weekend, sir. 2382 02:13:45.640 --> 02:13:48.560 Eight twenty six. Right now, local stories coming up. Alternatively, 2383 02:13:48.680 --> 02:13:50.520 just got the phone lines open you can call. Maybe 2384 02:13:50.520 --> 02:13:52.359 there's something you want to talk about. Five one, three, seven, 2385 02:13:52.359 --> 02:13:54.239 four nine fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two 2386 02:13:54.239 --> 02:13:56.880 to three talk a pound in five fifty on AT 2387 02:13:57.000 --> 02:13:57.560 and T phones. 2388 02:13:57.560 --> 02:14:00.279 I'll be right back This is fifty five R see 2389 02:14:00.439 --> 02:14:02.159 an iHeartRadio station. 2390 02:14:04.520 --> 02:14:08.560 Channelin first warning weather forecasts, scattered showers and storms are 2391 02:14:08.560 --> 02:14:10.960 a possibility today. Eighty five is going to be our high. 2392 02:14:11.479 --> 02:14:13.880 Down to seventy one overnight, which is a slight chance 2393 02:14:13.920 --> 02:14:17.359 of rain. Eighty six tomorrow with well better chance of 2394 02:14:17.399 --> 02:14:22.760 storms after one pm. Muggy, muggy and humid overnight seventy 2395 02:14:22.760 --> 02:14:24.560 two low. It's just a little chance of rain and 2396 02:14:24.600 --> 02:14:27.680 then a very humid Sunday chance of storms. Of course, 2397 02:14:27.880 --> 02:14:31.199 eighty seven for a high seventy three degrees right now, 2398 02:14:31.199 --> 02:14:33.760 if you've got kres to Deucauk station cyber traffic. 2399 02:14:34.079 --> 02:14:36.720 From the UCL Traffic Center the u see how Brain 2400 02:14:36.840 --> 02:14:40.359 Tumor Center finds answers from the most complex brain tumors. 2401 02:14:40.439 --> 02:14:42.439 Learn more at u se health dot com. 2402 02:14:42.960 --> 02:14:45.359 Step found seventy fives Those just a bit at the 2403 02:14:45.399 --> 02:14:48.560 Reagan Highway, but actually getting better between the Western Hills 2404 02:14:48.640 --> 02:14:51.079 Viaduct and the brand's fence. They had a couple of 2405 02:14:51.199 --> 02:14:54.279 extra minutes they just cleared the accident. He's found on 2406 02:14:54.359 --> 02:14:58.239 the Virals Ramp two Ridge. Chuck ingramon fifty five KR 2407 02:14:58.399 --> 02:14:59.960 SAT the talk station. 2408 02:15:02.239 --> 02:15:04.880 A thirty fifty five Carsite talk Station, A very Happy 2409 02:15:04.960 --> 02:15:08.640 Friday to you. Remember tech Friday with Dave Hatter took 2410 02:15:08.640 --> 02:15:11.359 place at six thirty. Some very interesting stuff from Dave 2411 02:15:11.479 --> 02:15:13.960 is there is every week podcast fifty five cars dot Com. 2412 02:15:14.239 --> 02:15:16.680 Over to the phones. I'm gonna go, Jeff, Welcome to 2413 02:15:16.760 --> 02:15:18.439 the morning show. Happy Friday to you, my friend. 2414 02:15:19.880 --> 02:15:23.319 Good morning, Brian. As always you enjoy our true patriots. 2415 02:15:23.319 --> 02:15:26.079 Buddy love hearing that. I truly appreciate the compliment, and 2416 02:15:26.199 --> 02:15:27.520 I do take it as a great compliment. 2417 02:15:28.840 --> 02:15:29.640 It is it is. 2418 02:15:29.760 --> 02:15:32.000 Hopefully it will never be a code word. But anyway, 2419 02:15:36.159 --> 02:15:38.960 I mean there's been crazier Jeff. Anyway, Well that's true. 2420 02:15:39.920 --> 02:15:40.119 Yeah. 2421 02:15:41.199 --> 02:15:43.840 What I want to let all the listeners know, and 2422 02:15:44.119 --> 02:15:47.399 of course to talk to their friends about, is you 2423 02:15:47.560 --> 02:15:50.520 can have the best police force in the world, but 2424 02:15:50.720 --> 02:15:58.640 unless you have strong district attorneys and prosecutors and even 2425 02:15:58.800 --> 02:16:02.000 city council people, you're not going to have a very 2426 02:16:02.039 --> 02:16:07.079 good law enforcement because they're the ones who will then 2427 02:16:07.399 --> 02:16:11.800 end up punishing the people that the police bring in. 2428 02:16:12.199 --> 02:16:15.800 And as we've seen unfortunately in a lot of these 2429 02:16:17.560 --> 02:16:22.399 coastal cities which will remain nameless New York and calibrating 2430 02:16:22.920 --> 02:16:27.800 and and they it's it's not going to help the 2431 02:16:27.880 --> 02:16:31.399 police if all you do is it's a revolving door 2432 02:16:31.640 --> 02:16:33.879 when they bring them in and they just release them. 2433 02:16:35.520 --> 02:16:38.639 If you do something wrong, if you and I, you 2434 02:16:38.840 --> 02:16:42.159 or I break the law, we have to be punished. 2435 02:16:42.639 --> 02:16:45.399 It's not so much as a cruel thing. It's actually 2436 02:16:45.479 --> 02:16:49.079 a good thing. It keeps us from reoffending, It keeps 2437 02:16:49.159 --> 02:16:53.920 us from getting worse with our law breaking. I mean, 2438 02:16:54.159 --> 02:16:57.639 if you don't punish these people, it just emboldens them 2439 02:16:57.719 --> 02:17:03.280 to do worse and worse things. And I just can't 2440 02:17:03.559 --> 02:17:07.719 reiterate enough that we got to remember when you when 2441 02:17:07.799 --> 02:17:10.360 you hire these people, when you vote for them, they've 2442 02:17:10.479 --> 02:17:12.680 got to be strong on the police. They've got to 2443 02:17:12.719 --> 02:17:15.799 be strong on the constitution. Right, We've got to make 2444 02:17:15.879 --> 02:17:22.239 sure we punish the evildoers and try to protect the victims. 2445 02:17:22.319 --> 02:17:23.719 I mean, we just got to do it. 2446 02:17:23.920 --> 02:17:27.600 I agree. And as I've talked with the FOP president 2447 02:17:28.319 --> 02:17:30.479 and many times and over the years of talking to 2448 02:17:30.479 --> 02:17:33.159 the various FOP presidents, members of law enforcement, if you 2449 02:17:33.200 --> 02:17:35.719 don't have the enforcement element in place, if either your 2450 02:17:35.799 --> 02:17:40.000 prosecutorial wing is not interested in prosecutions, which up until 2451 02:17:40.120 --> 02:17:43.559 recently has not been the case, if you judges will 2452 02:17:43.680 --> 02:17:47.040 not punish and they're very lenient, then the police think 2453 02:17:47.079 --> 02:17:49.959 it's a pointless effort to do their job. I mean, 2454 02:17:50.159 --> 02:17:51.719 you know, I always kind of speculate them in the 2455 02:17:51.760 --> 02:17:53.840 back of my mind, you know, Jay, Jeff, I wonder 2456 02:17:53.920 --> 02:17:56.680 what the real crime statistics would be if the police 2457 02:17:56.879 --> 02:18:00.319 actually arrested everybody who should have been arrested, if they 2458 02:18:00.360 --> 02:18:03.280 didn't just ignore the curfew violations. Let the young teenagers 2459 02:18:03.399 --> 02:18:06.399 go out on the street because they know that nothing's 2460 02:18:06.440 --> 02:18:08.559 going to happen of them, and the work in arresting 2461 02:18:08.639 --> 02:18:10.879 them is a pointless gesture because there's no place to 2462 02:18:10.959 --> 02:18:13.639 put them, so why bother If they had actually, you know, 2463 02:18:14.440 --> 02:18:18.120 issued citations or otherwise arrested everybody that they encounter who's 2464 02:18:18.120 --> 02:18:20.239 committed to crime and it has the justifiable reason for 2465 02:18:20.319 --> 02:18:22.280 being arrested, I bet the crime stats would be a 2466 02:18:22.280 --> 02:18:25.000 lot worse. It's just that its point is doing their job. 2467 02:18:25.360 --> 02:18:27.479 I feel sorry for It's one of the reasons morale 2468 02:18:27.639 --> 02:18:31.319 is down. Yeah, my friend, I appreciate the call, Jeff, 2469 02:18:31.319 --> 02:18:33.479 I truly Do you want to go shorter or go 2470 02:18:33.559 --> 02:18:38.719 extra long? Joe? Okay, mister pappis one moment I don't 2471 02:18:38.719 --> 02:18:40.399 want to get cut your time off, so hang on 2472 02:18:40.440 --> 02:18:43.159 one Minute'll be right back after these brief words fifty 2473 02:18:43.200 --> 02:18:47.479 five KRC dot com. Jenna and I first one to 2474 02:18:47.520 --> 02:18:50.639 want for chance of showers and storms two day eighty 2475 02:18:50.719 --> 02:18:52.639 five will be the high overnight lo seventy one with 2476 02:18:52.719 --> 02:18:56.440 a slight chance of rain. Storms and showers possible Tomorrow 2477 02:18:57.319 --> 02:19:00.360 with a high of eighty six overnight down the two. 2478 02:19:00.360 --> 02:19:02.079 It's going to be very humid, they predict, and they 2479 02:19:02.120 --> 02:19:05.920 also predict the possible rain. Finally for Sunday, another very 2480 02:19:06.000 --> 02:19:08.200 humid day with a chance of some storms eighty seven 2481 02:19:08.280 --> 02:19:10.120 for the high seventy three degrees. Right now, let's hear 2482 02:19:10.120 --> 02:19:13.399 about traffic from the U see How Traffic Center. 2483 02:19:13.479 --> 02:19:16.280 The you See Help Brain Tumor Center finds answers for 2484 02:19:16.399 --> 02:19:18.239 some of the most complex brain tumors. 2485 02:19:18.360 --> 02:19:21.159 Learn more at you see Help dot Com. Highway traffic 2486 02:19:21.319 --> 02:19:22.120 not all that band. 2487 02:19:22.200 --> 02:19:25.399 The heavy guest is southbound seventy five between Desert Charles 2488 02:19:25.680 --> 02:19:29.239 and the Brents Fence. Southbound two seventy five is improved 2489 02:19:29.280 --> 02:19:32.040 between the Lawrence Burnt Ramp and the Carrol Cropper Bridge. 2490 02:19:32.360 --> 02:19:36.040 Southbound seventy one. There's no delay through Blue ash Shot 2491 02:19:36.120 --> 02:19:39.360 King Bramont fifty five KRC Deep Talk Station. 2492 02:19:41.760 --> 02:19:43.760 A thirty seven to fifty five KRC de Talk station. 2493 02:19:44.079 --> 02:19:46.239 Love hearing from the listeners five one, three, seven, four nine, 2494 02:19:46.280 --> 02:19:48.000 fifty five hundred, eight hundred and eighty two to three 2495 02:19:48.079 --> 02:19:50.280 talk and thank you so much for holding over the 2496 02:19:50.280 --> 02:19:52.680 break there, Andrew Pappas great to have you on this morning. 2497 02:19:53.639 --> 02:19:59.600 Morning, Brian, no problem, brother gobtailing with your discussion, and 2498 02:19:59.680 --> 02:20:01.600 I that it's been right on the money. You know, 2499 02:20:01.840 --> 02:20:05.680 not only are police discouraged because of liberal judges. 2500 02:20:05.760 --> 02:20:06.559 Let's be fair here. 2501 02:20:06.760 --> 02:20:08.559 Liberal judges supported. 2502 02:20:08.159 --> 02:20:12.799 By your local Democrat party that give light sentences no bonds, 2503 02:20:13.840 --> 02:20:17.040 think that the criminals are the victims, and the victims 2504 02:20:17.120 --> 02:20:18.600 are actually forgotten about. 2505 02:20:20.079 --> 02:20:21.639 That is the cause for a lot of this. But 2506 02:20:21.760 --> 02:20:24.040 I'd like to dovetail this over. 2507 02:20:24.000 --> 02:20:26.719 To not to always tie everything to party politics. 2508 02:20:26.760 --> 02:20:28.719 But something that jumped out at me. I don't know 2509 02:20:28.760 --> 02:20:31.799 if you, I'm sure you saw that yesterday was the second, 2510 02:20:32.719 --> 02:20:35.079 if not third. I'm kind of losing count. It becomes 2511 02:20:35.200 --> 02:20:39.520 like an exercise daily for these people. Another protest was 2512 02:20:39.559 --> 02:20:44.120 held yesterday around around the country. Yea, and which is 2513 02:20:44.200 --> 02:20:46.200 funny that it was during it seemed to be during 2514 02:20:46.280 --> 02:20:46.920 business hours. 2515 02:20:46.959 --> 02:20:48.319 A lot of these people don't have jobs. 2516 02:20:48.360 --> 02:20:49.280 This might be their job. 2517 02:20:49.760 --> 02:20:54.319 But I saw there's a recurring theme along a lot 2518 02:20:54.440 --> 02:20:58.079 of these protesters, and that is that they are actually 2519 02:20:58.239 --> 02:21:01.360 There was many, many signs in many shirts I saw 2520 02:21:01.520 --> 02:21:06.239 that said something online wishing violence on Donald Trump and 2521 02:21:06.399 --> 02:21:08.719 actually the murder of Donald Trump. To be honest with you, 2522 02:21:08.799 --> 02:21:12.879 when you say eighty six forty seven and then you chuckle. 2523 02:21:13.840 --> 02:21:18.520 A woman had a sign that said someone just do it. 2524 02:21:19.719 --> 02:21:20.399 And I asked, what this. 2525 02:21:20.639 --> 02:21:23.280 I saw that. Yeah, I saw your post on that. Yeah. 2526 02:21:23.760 --> 02:21:25.799 Yes, And so you know these people and then they 2527 02:21:25.920 --> 02:21:29.280 advocate for so these people are actually I just I 2528 02:21:29.399 --> 02:21:32.000 don't know where the disconnect is with these people in 2529 02:21:32.120 --> 02:21:35.760 there in what should be a brain area that they. 2530 02:21:35.760 --> 02:21:36.799 Can't make the connection. 2531 02:21:36.920 --> 02:21:39.639 They are advocating for the murder of a human being. 2532 02:21:39.719 --> 02:21:39.879 Murder. 2533 02:21:39.959 --> 02:21:42.079 Let's just call it what it is, a murder of 2534 02:21:42.120 --> 02:21:45.680 a human being because they disagree with them politically. I 2535 02:21:45.799 --> 02:21:48.040 want that to sink into everybody out there. When you 2536 02:21:48.319 --> 02:21:50.920 know you might lif like Donald Trump, God knows, I 2537 02:21:51.079 --> 02:21:53.360 did not. I was not a big fan of Joe Biden. 2538 02:21:53.639 --> 02:21:56.520 But you can search back through any any utterance I've 2539 02:21:56.559 --> 02:21:59.559 ever made regarding Joe Biden or the number I've never 2540 02:21:59.600 --> 02:22:03.200 advocate catered for the actual death of another human beings 2541 02:22:03.440 --> 02:22:06.680 on political lines or any other lines. Now, are there 2542 02:22:06.760 --> 02:22:08.959 some that I won't be torn up about if their 2543 02:22:09.079 --> 02:22:09.760 time comes? 2544 02:22:10.319 --> 02:22:10.479 Yeah? 2545 02:22:10.600 --> 02:22:12.399 Sure, I mean, let's be honest, But that doesn't that's 2546 02:22:12.399 --> 02:22:14.959 not on political that's more on personal beats. 2547 02:22:14.680 --> 02:22:15.920 That I might have with somebody. 2548 02:22:17.239 --> 02:22:20.040 Where the Democrat Party is at as far left as 2549 02:22:20.079 --> 02:22:24.799 they've gone, I find really really troubling, and voters need 2550 02:22:24.879 --> 02:22:28.159 to you know, you are lamenting the police, are lamenting 2551 02:22:28.799 --> 02:22:32.200 the crime and about the crime, the violence here in Cincinnati. 2552 02:22:33.360 --> 02:22:37.680 You can clearly trace this back to one party here. 2553 02:22:37.719 --> 02:22:39.760 And I'm not saying everything breaks down on party lines. 2554 02:22:40.120 --> 02:22:42.479 And then they say, oh, judges are a political that's 2555 02:22:42.520 --> 02:22:46.479 a bunch of bunk. Okay, judges don't get to put 2556 02:22:46.479 --> 02:22:48.079 an R or D next to it. But they are 2557 02:22:48.840 --> 02:22:52.399 they are very supported by political parties. They are nominated, 2558 02:22:52.520 --> 02:22:54.799 they are supported, they are held up, they are they 2559 02:22:54.840 --> 02:22:59.600 are you know, voted by mostly on political lines. And 2560 02:22:59.719 --> 02:23:03.079 you can clearly traced fact that God only is this poor, 2561 02:23:03.479 --> 02:23:06.879 you know, the level of morale on the police suffering 2562 02:23:06.959 --> 02:23:11.000 because of this you know, it's just we said no deterrence. 2563 02:23:11.600 --> 02:23:15.440 I saw news stories yesterday about oh protesters arrested at 2564 02:23:15.520 --> 02:23:19.479 the anti ice protests on the Rowland Bridge. They're arrested 2565 02:23:19.520 --> 02:23:21.120 because they were blocking traffic. 2566 02:23:21.520 --> 02:23:23.959 Okay, you don't have the right to block traffic. 2567 02:23:24.719 --> 02:23:26.680 You might right to protest. You still have a sideway, 2568 02:23:26.920 --> 02:23:30.360 sidewalk all day long. But where where is this coming from? 2569 02:23:30.479 --> 02:23:31.520 And let's call it out. 2570 02:23:31.639 --> 02:23:34.200 You know this this we've crossed the path we are now. 2571 02:23:34.440 --> 02:23:38.000 One party is actively they're a lot of their supporters, 2572 02:23:38.360 --> 02:23:41.600 and to be fair, the leaders go along with it 2573 02:23:41.719 --> 02:23:42.719 because God knows. 2574 02:23:42.559 --> 02:23:43.559 They cannot fight. 2575 02:23:43.680 --> 02:23:45.680 Their mob that they have is one of their pillars 2576 02:23:45.719 --> 02:23:48.719 of their base. So one of we have a political 2577 02:23:48.799 --> 02:23:52.440 party in America right now today is advocating for the 2578 02:23:52.559 --> 02:23:56.000 murder of one of their political opponents. Yet somehow these 2579 02:23:56.159 --> 02:23:58.920 very same people have the gumption to get on their 2580 02:23:58.959 --> 02:24:00.399 soapbox and label the. 2581 02:24:00.479 --> 02:24:05.399 Other side as Nazis. Yeah find it funny. Yeah? Well, 2582 02:24:05.440 --> 02:24:07.479 and you know the other thing I find very troubling. 2583 02:24:07.639 --> 02:24:10.200 And on one level, you know, the sort of maybe 2584 02:24:10.239 --> 02:24:12.959 little ill libertarian and we kind of find some understanding 2585 02:24:13.079 --> 02:24:15.920 and appreciation for the argument. But in the days that 2586 02:24:15.959 --> 02:24:18.319 we live in now where there's docsing and where people 2587 02:24:18.799 --> 02:24:21.280 can easily be found where they live, who their family 2588 02:24:21.360 --> 02:24:23.920 members are. Just using social media alone as a tool 2589 02:24:24.000 --> 02:24:26.200 like Facebook, you can figure out who family members are. 2590 02:24:26.799 --> 02:24:28.959 Of course, go to the Hamilton County Auditor's web page 2591 02:24:28.959 --> 02:24:30.559 and find out if somebody owns a house under a 2592 02:24:30.600 --> 02:24:32.680 certain name in Hamilton County. But all the counties have 2593 02:24:32.799 --> 02:24:36.840 that the idea that that there are elected officials pushing 2594 02:24:36.920 --> 02:24:40.399 for legislation taking away the ability of ICE agents to 2595 02:24:40.520 --> 02:24:43.600 keep their faces covered to avoid that happening. Because it 2596 02:24:43.840 --> 02:24:47.280 is happening. Our ICE agents are under threat all the time. 2597 02:24:47.840 --> 02:24:50.120 I mean the amount of crime and criminal activity directed 2598 02:24:50.159 --> 02:24:52.200 at ICE agents according to report I read, is jumped 2599 02:24:52.239 --> 02:24:55.479 like eight hundred and fifty percent. They're being threatened, their 2600 02:24:55.520 --> 02:24:57.639 families are being threatened, and one of the ways they 2601 02:24:57.719 --> 02:24:59.559 have to protect themselves and their families from that is 2602 02:24:59.600 --> 02:25:01.040 by key and their faces covered. 2603 02:25:01.639 --> 02:25:03.920 So no question, and I'll tell you this, I say, 2604 02:25:04.000 --> 02:25:07.360 you may hear it, Neil right on the head, you know, clear, 2605 02:25:07.520 --> 02:25:10.040 you know, I'll just to parenthetically, I was a victim, 2606 02:25:10.319 --> 02:25:12.680 you know, a liberal here in the township, a local 2607 02:25:12.799 --> 02:25:16.559 lunatic UH created a false profile and and and went 2608 02:25:16.600 --> 02:25:19.760 on social media, listed my property, both of my properties 2609 02:25:19.799 --> 02:25:23.559 for sale, put my phone number out there, also put 2610 02:25:23.680 --> 02:25:28.399 my name on made false claims about pedophilia and put 2611 02:25:28.440 --> 02:25:30.000 it on a pedophile side. I had to get that 2612 02:25:30.120 --> 02:25:33.000 taken down. This is what occurs in America today. And they, 2613 02:25:33.280 --> 02:25:35.079 you know, yuck, yuck, wink wink, we didn't do it. 2614 02:25:35.159 --> 02:25:35.719 We don't know who. 2615 02:25:35.840 --> 02:25:36.120 That is. 2616 02:25:36.479 --> 02:25:38.879 What a croc, I mean, just what a crock. The 2617 02:25:39.479 --> 02:25:43.280 lunatic left is keep lurching further and further to the left, 2618 02:25:43.879 --> 02:25:46.879 and you know, unless the voters finally have had enough, 2619 02:25:47.000 --> 02:25:50.120 and this next election cycle you have a good chance 2620 02:25:50.280 --> 02:25:53.200 to do that by re electing good conservative judges. 2621 02:25:53.319 --> 02:25:54.479 That's where it starts. 2622 02:25:55.159 --> 02:25:57.719 And I'm not saying vote along party lines, but by god, 2623 02:25:58.120 --> 02:26:01.040 if you don't start holding these parts. He is responsible 2624 02:26:01.200 --> 02:26:06.280 for nominating, supporting, and pushing these liberal judges across the 2625 02:26:06.319 --> 02:26:08.520 finish line. And then they get an office and they 2626 02:26:08.559 --> 02:26:10.879 have the gumption to say, oh, that's an a political part. 2627 02:26:10.920 --> 02:26:12.559 You know that's not a partisan position. 2628 02:26:13.079 --> 02:26:14.959 Well, it clearly is. And that goes all the way 2629 02:26:15.000 --> 02:26:16.799 down to school boards. I mean you know that that 2630 02:26:17.319 --> 02:26:20.639 the school boards, I truly feel should be a political However, 2631 02:26:20.719 --> 02:26:24.000 in today's society, what is what isn't a political? Everything 2632 02:26:24.040 --> 02:26:26.920 you do now today has been spun is political. Yes, So, 2633 02:26:27.040 --> 02:26:29.360 I mean, you know, you have a choice to make. 2634 02:26:30.200 --> 02:26:33.360 One party has lurched further and further to the left, 2635 02:26:33.920 --> 02:26:36.479 and now that they're not getting their way, they're becoming 2636 02:26:36.719 --> 02:26:40.840 violent and pushing for violence and advocating murder. And the 2637 02:26:40.920 --> 02:26:45.719 other party. I'd love for someone to point out, can 2638 02:26:45.840 --> 02:26:47.520 you think, I mean, you've known me a long time, 2639 02:26:47.600 --> 02:26:50.799 and you've known my conservative views, and you know conservatives. 2640 02:26:51.280 --> 02:26:55.159 Can you remember anyone pushing or advocating for the murder 2641 02:26:55.399 --> 02:26:56.559 or death of Joe Biden? 2642 02:26:56.760 --> 02:26:57.159 I don't. 2643 02:26:58.360 --> 02:27:00.840 I don't know Obama, I don't never. 2644 02:27:02.239 --> 02:27:07.159 Never would need to be considered unfathomable. Now is the norm? 2645 02:27:07.559 --> 02:27:07.639 Ye. 2646 02:27:07.840 --> 02:27:10.440 So unless we unless we start to reel this back in, 2647 02:27:11.120 --> 02:27:13.399 we're going to have a very big problem. Violence is 2648 02:27:13.520 --> 02:27:17.479 not the answer. However, when confronted with violence, you only 2649 02:27:17.600 --> 02:27:19.799 have you know, you have the right to defend yourself. 2650 02:27:19.879 --> 02:27:22.399 And if that, if it's going to be survival of 2651 02:27:22.479 --> 02:27:25.120 the fittest, that's who anarchy is, that's what we're going for. 2652 02:27:25.680 --> 02:27:27.200 That's the place I don't want to go and I 2653 02:27:27.239 --> 02:27:27.879 don't want to live. 2654 02:27:27.799 --> 02:27:31.719 In a society like that a then all day long, 2655 02:27:32.360 --> 02:27:34.920 although Drew I got to point out, I would like 2656 02:27:35.000 --> 02:27:36.799 to qualify this. I don't want to see that happen. 2657 02:27:36.799 --> 02:27:38.479 I don't want to go through some kind of civil war. 2658 02:27:38.600 --> 02:27:40.680 I don't want societal unrest. Generally. I want to be 2659 02:27:40.680 --> 02:27:43.760 able to go about my life peacefully, but knowing the 2660 02:27:43.840 --> 02:27:45.840 people that I know, if it came down to a 2661 02:27:45.920 --> 02:27:52.879 shooting war, I think we're probably on the better equipped side, Drew. Plus, 2662 02:27:52.959 --> 02:27:56.360 we've got the range time. I appreciate it, Drew, I do. Man, 2663 02:27:56.479 --> 02:27:58.559 you have a great weekend. I appreciate tenning in the 2664 02:27:58.559 --> 02:28:02.159 show and calling today three seven, four nine fifty D 2665 02:28:02.200 --> 02:28:04.600 eighty two three talk pound five fifty on AT and 2666 02:28:04.639 --> 02:28:05.680 T phones eight forty. 2667 02:28:05.479 --> 02:28:08.719 Five right now, be right back, fifty five KRC the 2668 02:28:08.959 --> 02:28:16.760 talk station. Be Hold, hey, fifty the fifty five kr 2669 02:28:16.879 --> 02:28:18.600 C the talk station. 2670 02:28:18.719 --> 02:28:38.799 Put a smile on my face, Joey geezes CNN phone, Uh, 2671 02:28:39.200 --> 02:28:41.200 Joe Strekkers there a producer always putting smile on my 2672 02:28:41.239 --> 02:28:43.280 face at this time on Friday by playing Joe Ramon 2673 02:28:43.879 --> 02:28:46.040 love that song and I love hearing from folks and 2674 02:28:46.239 --> 02:28:49.840 a good friend of mine, friend of everybody's. Keegan Corcoran, 2675 02:28:49.879 --> 02:28:51.360 good head, you back on the show man, Thanks for 2676 02:28:51.440 --> 02:28:52.159 calling in this morning. 2677 02:28:53.159 --> 02:28:54.319 Hey Brian, I worry man. 2678 02:28:54.440 --> 02:28:56.719 I'm doing fine. We need to have another wine discussion 2679 02:28:56.719 --> 02:28:58.159 here in the fifty five KRC Morning Show. Of course. 2680 02:28:58.159 --> 02:28:59.959 If you don't know Keegan, he is the former song 2681 02:29:00.440 --> 02:29:02.360 for all of the Jeff Ruby restaurants. He is now 2682 02:29:02.840 --> 02:29:06.520 owner and operator of a wine wholesaler called Ignition Wine. 2683 02:29:06.559 --> 02:29:08.559 You can find him online at Ignition Wines dot com. 2684 02:29:08.719 --> 02:29:11.399 So if you are a seller of wine or a restaurant, 2685 02:29:11.719 --> 02:29:14.120 he's a good man to get to know. Second highest 2686 02:29:14.200 --> 02:29:17.000 level samier in the world. That's a level that he 2687 02:29:17.120 --> 02:29:19.479 has achieved. So there's your background, Keegan, and some free 2688 02:29:19.520 --> 02:29:20.680 publicity there for your brother. 2689 02:29:22.399 --> 02:29:25.719 Thanks for the plug, man, I appreciate now. I was 2690 02:29:26.159 --> 02:29:28.520 speaking of why you know, I'm driving around as I 2691 02:29:28.600 --> 02:29:30.600 do in the morning's always listened to you, always enjoy 2692 02:29:30.680 --> 02:29:30.959 the show. 2693 02:29:31.000 --> 02:29:32.079 You know that, thanks mate. 2694 02:29:33.719 --> 02:29:36.319 You know, listen to some of these conversations. A few 2695 02:29:36.440 --> 02:29:39.280 things kind of kind of struck me and it's kind 2696 02:29:39.319 --> 02:29:41.479 of been going around in my head lately when I've 2697 02:29:41.479 --> 02:29:43.920 been tuning in the news or whatnot, and you know, 2698 02:29:44.040 --> 02:29:48.280 the reports of you know, juvenile crime up et cetera, 2699 02:29:48.319 --> 02:29:51.239 et cetera, which I don't think is exclusive to Cincinnati. 2700 02:29:51.399 --> 02:29:55.239 But you know, there's one thing, that one element that's 2701 02:29:55.360 --> 02:29:58.280 always neglected or at least too rarely neglected to be 2702 02:29:58.360 --> 02:30:01.559 talked about that you know, dads need to be more 2703 02:30:01.600 --> 02:30:04.760 involved with with their children's lives. And there needs to 2704 02:30:04.799 --> 02:30:08.360 be a bigger push rather than or maybe not rather, 2705 02:30:08.520 --> 02:30:11.440 but in tandem with all these other efforts that we're 2706 02:30:11.479 --> 02:30:14.120 trying to do, we need to be putting out the 2707 02:30:14.159 --> 02:30:17.479 message that you know, dads and fathers are such an 2708 02:30:17.520 --> 02:30:21.079 important role in the development, especially in the development of 2709 02:30:21.239 --> 02:30:24.079 of young men's lives, to where if they don't have that, 2710 02:30:24.399 --> 02:30:27.440 it's it's too easy for them to go astray and 2711 02:30:27.959 --> 02:30:31.600 and get you know, not only influenced by, but taking 2712 02:30:31.600 --> 02:30:35.200 advantage of some some bad actors and bad characters and 2713 02:30:35.639 --> 02:30:38.159 thus caused a bunch of trouble. But you know, I 2714 02:30:38.520 --> 02:30:41.680 I really think that that's that's the biggest solution, would 2715 02:30:41.680 --> 02:30:43.440 be the biggest tool in the tool belt of the 2716 02:30:43.520 --> 02:30:46.079 city and the region to just get the word out 2717 02:30:46.159 --> 02:30:48.159 even more so. And and dads you need to get 2718 02:30:48.159 --> 02:30:52.680 involved in uh and and it's it's just it's just rampant, 2719 02:30:52.760 --> 02:30:54.079 and you're talking about it. 2720 02:30:54.760 --> 02:30:57.399 You are right, and you know that to double down 2721 02:30:57.440 --> 02:31:00.600 on your point, the need for father and the need 2722 02:31:00.680 --> 02:31:03.120 for the involvement of men and these young people's lives 2723 02:31:03.159 --> 02:31:05.360 to help mold them, to show them, you know what 2724 02:31:05.559 --> 02:31:07.799 it is to go to work every day. I mean 2725 02:31:07.879 --> 02:31:09.399 that alone. If you're live in a house and you 2726 02:31:09.440 --> 02:31:11.079 got a dad that gets up every day and goes 2727 02:31:11.120 --> 02:31:14.920 to work, he is demonstrating something to you that is valuable, 2728 02:31:15.000 --> 02:31:17.159 that work is important and he's willing to get up 2729 02:31:17.159 --> 02:31:18.799 and go to work every day for you, it's a 2730 02:31:18.920 --> 02:31:21.520 sign of love without even say out loud, I love you. 2731 02:31:21.680 --> 02:31:24.399 But the problem is we live right now at a 2732 02:31:24.479 --> 02:31:28.559 time in society when men are belittled, they have been minimized. 2733 02:31:28.680 --> 02:31:31.760 Women don't need men in their lives. They're equal as men, 2734 02:31:31.920 --> 02:31:33.239 and they're not going to play I mean, you know 2735 02:31:33.319 --> 02:31:36.440 how it is the idea of a real, true old 2736 02:31:36.559 --> 02:31:39.120 fashioned man's man has been replaced by, you know, the 2737 02:31:39.280 --> 02:31:41.360 likes of like a David Hog type character. 2738 02:31:43.319 --> 02:31:47.520 Yeah, it's it's really bizarre. I'm at least thankful of 2739 02:31:48.399 --> 02:31:50.760 the previous election that we've seen some change and some 2740 02:31:50.879 --> 02:31:51.639 shift of that time. 2741 02:31:51.760 --> 02:31:53.719 But you know in a day and age. 2742 02:31:53.520 --> 02:31:58.600 Where the stupid phrays you know, toxic massiculinity. Yeah, I 2743 02:31:58.680 --> 02:32:03.520 mean that that is just is definition less as toxic femininity. 2744 02:32:03.680 --> 02:32:06.760 So like if somebody can like describe either one of those, 2745 02:32:06.879 --> 02:32:09.440 you know, but that's never spoken of. It's just it's 2746 02:32:09.719 --> 02:32:13.040 the blame so to speak, or whatever do you want 2747 02:32:13.079 --> 02:32:16.239 to call that. It's falling squarely on the shoulders of men. 2748 02:32:16.920 --> 02:32:19.520 And it's just not a great example for people. You know, 2749 02:32:20.120 --> 02:32:23.239 both of the sexes bring wonderful things to the table, 2750 02:32:23.319 --> 02:32:26.719 and and you know, family unit is made whole by 2751 02:32:26.840 --> 02:32:30.360 both those people moving together, you know. And and but 2752 02:32:30.879 --> 02:32:32.920 fathers need to be in the homes and dads need 2753 02:32:33.000 --> 02:32:35.360 to get involved, and that's what needs to happen in 2754 02:32:35.399 --> 02:32:37.040 the community more. And that's what I think. 2755 02:32:37.440 --> 02:32:40.040 That's my two cents today, besides. 2756 02:32:39.639 --> 02:32:41.959 All the wine knowledge I got floating around. 2757 02:32:42.000 --> 02:32:45.719 Brian, one of only six under the world to hold 2758 02:32:45.760 --> 02:32:49.559 the title of Advanced Salier within the Court of Masters, 2759 02:32:49.600 --> 02:32:52.520 says and I'm waiting for you hit the next level, Keegan. 2760 02:32:52.600 --> 02:32:54.639 I know it will happen someday, but in the meantime again, 2761 02:32:54.760 --> 02:32:57.559 ignitionwines dot com free free pub for my friend Keegan, 2762 02:32:57.600 --> 02:33:01.559 and you're right, Keegan. The theation and fall of the 2763 02:33:01.639 --> 02:33:03.920 nuclear family, I think can be traced directly to the 2764 02:33:03.959 --> 02:33:05.879 problem we're having with young people these days. And I 2765 02:33:06.000 --> 02:33:07.520 have talked to so many men and women in law 2766 02:33:07.600 --> 02:33:11.479 enforcement as well as education and counselors and psychologists and 2767 02:33:11.520 --> 02:33:14.840 psychiatrists over the years. They would agree with you completely 2768 02:33:15.000 --> 02:33:18.079 in your assessment. Appreciate it. Brother, You have a fantastic 2769 02:33:18.159 --> 02:33:20.200 weekend eight fifty five and tell your mom and dad 2770 02:33:20.239 --> 02:33:23.239 I said hi. Please At five fifty five krscy Totalxation 2771 02:33:23.319 --> 02:33:25.280 Tech Fred with Dave Hatter fifty five Casey dot com 2772 02:33:25.399 --> 02:33:27.959 gets your podcast. 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Tune in money for the Smith event 2782 02:33:58.159 --> 02:34:00.760 with Christopher Smitheman, and thank you, Thank you Joe Strecker 2783 02:34:00.840 --> 02:34:02.559 for all that you do for the program. Brother, I 2784 02:34:02.639 --> 02:34:06.239 really truly appreciate you. Folks. Don't go away. Glenbeck's coming 2785 02:34:06.319 --> 02:34:06.600 right up. 2786 02:34:07.799 --> 02:34:10.719 President Trump made clear that a peaceful resolution was possible 2787 02:34:10.760 --> 02:34:13.920 if I Ran agreed to give up its nuclear weapons ambitions. 2788 02:34:14.120 --> 02:34:16.760 Another update at the top of the hour fifty five 2789 02:34:16.879 --> 02:34:18.680 krs the talk station. 2790 02:34:19.360 --> 02:34:21.159 This report is sponsored by all