WEBVTT 1 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:14.960 Welcome to Destiny. 2 00:00:16.000 --> 00:00:18.320 Now, here's your host, Cliff Dunning. 3 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:22.440 Hey, we got a new program for you this week. 4 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:24.760 This is something that I've been working on now for 5 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:29.839 a couple of weeks, and we are pulling together some 6 00:00:29.920 --> 00:00:35.600 wellness material. It's called Biohacking Basics, and it includes all 7 00:00:35.719 --> 00:00:41.759 the various types of biohacking, from new tropics to intermittent fasting, 8 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:51.880 sleep optimization, age biohacking, neurogenesis, and wellness programs. Now, this 9 00:00:51.960 --> 00:00:56.159 is something that I have hinted on over the last 10 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:59.439 few months because we're screwed here in the United States 11 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:05.799 on our wellness programs. Allopathic medicine is deadly. And when 12 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:09.239 I say that, when you go to your doctor and 13 00:01:09.560 --> 00:01:12.239 you're okay, you're fine, You're just going for your checkup, 14 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:17.439 and he or she is prescribing statins or blood thinners 15 00:01:17.719 --> 00:01:22.799 or other medicines, this is the beginning of a problematic cycle. 16 00:01:24.239 --> 00:01:28.879 And frankly, they don't understand wellness. All they understand is medicine, 17 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:33.519 and medicines are extremely powerful and toxic to the body. 18 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:38.000 I might have mentioned that I went through a series 19 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:41.840 of medications after I had a heart attack and I 20 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:45.640 am finally off of them after actually researching other ways 21 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:51.000 to mitigate my wellness, and the most important really in 22 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:56.519 my case was exercise getting the weight off. I'm still 23 00:01:56.560 --> 00:02:02.959 processing that, working with new tropics and vitamin therapy, cleaning 24 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:06.000 up my diet, and I'm far from over. I'm still 25 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:10.960 working on dropping weight and looking into weight loss programs 26 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:15.280 like Ozimpic. Not necessarily getting the injections, but you can 27 00:02:15.319 --> 00:02:21.400 take low dose or what is known as microdoses of ozempic. 28 00:02:22.400 --> 00:02:24.919 And we'll have somebody on the show talking about these 29 00:02:25.159 --> 00:02:30.400 these powerful products that are peptides. They're not drugs, they're peptides, 30 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:36.319 and this is a whole new way to gain wellness. Now, 31 00:02:37.479 --> 00:02:41.639 biohacking is something that's been around for probably I want 32 00:02:41.639 --> 00:02:45.719 to say, seven to ten years. Father of biohacking is 33 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.120 Dave Asprey. Hoping to have him on the program. But 34 00:02:49.159 --> 00:02:53.719 this is actually where you can begin looking at yourself 35 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:57.240 as your own healing mechanism rather than going to an 36 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:02.520 allopath again when you go to your doctor. And I 37 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.560 have been dealing with this myself. I'm with the Kaiser 38 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:11.319 program here in Northern California. You are placing yourself in 39 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:16.560 the hands of people who don't really understand the body's 40 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:20.719 wellness system. All they understand is figures. They are expert 41 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:25.879 at technology, and I really prefer to call a medical 42 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:30.240 doctor a technologist because they have been trained to look 43 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:37.199 at numbers as statistics, at drug approaches. And the biggest 44 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:42.560 problem is that they are behoovent to the pharmaceutical companies 45 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:47.400 and they the pharmaceutic pharmaceutical companies are paying for some 46 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:54.240 of their programs. They are not enlightened whatsoever. They most 47 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:57.319 doctors will not be able to tell you what nutritional 48 00:03:57.360 --> 00:04:00.599 approaches you should take to wellness if if you have 49 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:05.759 gut problems, digestive problems, weight problems. They don't get it. 50 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:09.599 They just don't get it. Now, it's not all bad, 51 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:14.439 like I said, as technologists. If you are injured, they 52 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:21.720 are excellent at trauma care. They're excellent at relieving damaged 53 00:04:22.720 --> 00:04:28.000 through auto accidents, through illnesses, things like that. But I 54 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:29.920 have to tell you, if you have been given a 55 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:33.120 dose of medicines, you need to wean yourself off of 56 00:04:33.120 --> 00:04:36.519 them as soon as possible because they are deadly over 57 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:42.040 a long term period. So this new program, Biohacking Basics, 58 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.600 is for you. It is designed for you to take 59 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:49.680 your wellness into your own hands. We will have a 60 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:52.720 number of people starting with this today's program, which is 61 00:04:52.759 --> 00:04:57.360 on saunas and light therapy, and these are things that 62 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:03.160 have been around for decades and they help you begin 63 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:12.240 to heal your issues, your digestion, your weight, your chronic illness, arthritis. 64 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:16.800 I've even heard examples of people having ms that have 65 00:05:16.839 --> 00:05:20.519 been healed, neurological disorders and so forth and so on. 66 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.759 We have to take matters into our own hands. The 67 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:30.240 United States is the sickest country in the world because 68 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:40.000 we rely on medicines over wellness, natural healing, natural foods, exercise, 69 00:05:41.040 --> 00:05:45.199 and things like meditation. So and I've been harping on 70 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:48.519 meditation for a long time, so these are critical. I 71 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:54.240 want to play a short program with the father of biohacking, 72 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.600 that is Dave Osprey. And in this program he is 73 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:00.319 talking about know your foods. Let's have a quick and. 74 00:06:03.279 --> 00:06:06.199 We've got to break this idea that when you're old, 75 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:08.720 you're useless, right, And I mean it sounds rough to 76 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:11.560 say that this is what a lot of people really have. 77 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:13.800 And we have this picture in our head. In fact, 78 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:15.920 you probably have this picture right now and. 79 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:18.600 It's that there's tubes, there's monitors, there's wheelchairs, and you 80 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:20.519 don't know your name, and you spend the last twenty 81 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:23.240 years of your life in slow decline, suffering and spending 82 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:26.079 all of your money and then basically dying in a hospital. 83 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:27.319 That's actually not. 84 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:30.879 What has happened throughout all of history, soil very recently, 85 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:34.759 what used to happen was the village elder. You become 86 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.480 old and wise and venerated, and you share your life's 87 00:06:37.519 --> 00:06:40.720 experience with a younger generation who at least those of 88 00:06:40.720 --> 00:06:43.240 them who are smart enough to listen, because it saves 89 00:06:43.279 --> 00:06:46.040 them all of the suffering. Human progress happens because we 90 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.720 pass things on from the last generation to the new generation. 91 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:51.199 So I spend as much time as I can interviewing 92 00:06:51.199 --> 00:06:53.079 people in their eighties and nineties. You know, oh, you 93 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:54.800 want to Nobel prize. You're still running a lab at 94 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:56.920 ninety four. I think I want to pick your brain. Right, 95 00:06:57.720 --> 00:07:01.800 that's Eric Candell, the guy who discovered neuroplastic and so 96 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:03.600 to be able to do stuff like that, you got 97 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:07.680 to first not die. And there's four things. This is 98 00:07:07.720 --> 00:07:09.480 like the thesis of my next but four things are 99 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:11.720 going to kill you. They'll keep you from becoming an 100 00:07:11.759 --> 00:07:14.959 anti aging guru. And one of them is Alzheimer's disease. 101 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.160 You look at the odds, your chances of getting Alzheimer's 102 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:19.160 are probably approaching fifty percent. 103 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:21.279 Depending on your gender. Women get it more than men. 104 00:07:22.000 --> 00:07:23.319 That I've been doing a lot of work with the 105 00:07:23.480 --> 00:07:26.839 Maria Shreiver's Women's Alzheimer's Project because this is a gender 106 00:07:26.879 --> 00:07:29.439 specific disease. Men get it, and people get more attention 107 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:31.879 on men, but women get it more than men. And 108 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.160 if Alzheimer's doesn't get you, what's going to get you 109 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:39.000 cardiovascular disease? And if that doesn't get you cancer, And 110 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:41.000 the thing that underlies all three of those conditions that 111 00:07:41.120 --> 00:07:42.480 is rampant. 112 00:07:42.399 --> 00:07:44.199 Is diabetes type two diabetes. 113 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:47.199 So the first thing you do to live a long 114 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:49.759 time is don't die from one of the big four killers. 115 00:07:49.959 --> 00:07:55.199 So you have the four killers, cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's, and 116 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.680 cardiovascular disease, right, And I'm guessing that the number one 117 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:03.399 way to stop avoiding these things is the food that 118 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:03.839 you eat. 119 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:05.639 It is the food that you eat. 120 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:08.279 And the Bulletproof Diet is a book I wrote in 121 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:11.920 twenty fourteen that it really brought katosis back into the mainstream. 122 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:15.600 And the very trick that didn't work in the seventies 123 00:08:15.600 --> 00:08:18.360 for katosis is that it matters what kind of fat 124 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:18.600 you have. 125 00:08:18.680 --> 00:08:20.560 It matters what kind of protein you have. So here's 126 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:21.160 something you can do. 127 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:25.160 Google bulletproof Roadmap and this is the whole diet on 128 00:08:25.160 --> 00:08:26.199 one page infographic. 129 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:28.040 You can print it out and put it on your fridge. 130 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:30.879 It doesn't cost anything, and it just tells you this 131 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:32.919 protein is less inflammatory than this protein. 132 00:08:32.960 --> 00:08:35.080 This fat is a good fat, this fat's a bad fat. 133 00:08:35.399 --> 00:08:38.120 And the trick here that will change your performance right 134 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:39.639 now and how long you're going to live. 135 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:42.480 Is that there's a big list of suspect foods in 136 00:08:42.519 --> 00:08:44.519 the middle. And this is going to sound shocking. 137 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:47.480 The foods that work for you may not work for 138 00:08:47.519 --> 00:08:48.720 your spouse or your best friend. 139 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:51.120 And it's okay that there is no This food is 140 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:52.399 a good food. 141 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:55.960 And when you identify the guilty suspects in your food 142 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.840 supply guilty for you. 143 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:00.480 It stops chronic inflammation. 144 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:03.759 And chronic inflammation is a precursor to every one of 145 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:06.960 the four killers, and it also is a precursor to diabetes. 146 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.960 I'm hoping to have Dave on the program to address 147 00:09:22.639 --> 00:09:26.679 the specifics of biohacking in a short program. But like 148 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:29.679 I said, we will. These are all special programs. They're 149 00:09:30.399 --> 00:09:35.559 going to be additional to the typical Destiny program, so 150 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:38.360 they'll you'll you'll get a chance to listen to it. 151 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:43.559 The title of each is Biohacking Basics, and they'll have 152 00:09:43.639 --> 00:09:48.480 the theme for the program with the expert on the 153 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:54.559 program and all the details. So today's program is Biohacking Basics, 154 00:09:55.440 --> 00:10:03.000 Understanding Saunas and Light Therapy, and my guest is Brian Richards. 155 00:10:10.440 --> 00:10:13.759 We're featuring an incredible opportunity to visit one of the 156 00:10:13.799 --> 00:10:18.080 real enigmas of the ancient world, and that is Easter 157 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:21.759 Island in the Pacific Ocean. This is a new tour 158 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:24.159 that we're doing. It looks like this will probably be 159 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:27.720 the only chance we get to go because it's very 160 00:10:27.840 --> 00:10:31.360 challenging to get over there. But we're lucky because doctor 161 00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:35.399 Edwin Barnhardt, our host and our tour leader, has been 162 00:10:35.519 --> 00:10:39.720 surveying this island for over a number of years and 163 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:44.679 has some really amazing insights on just how detailed and 164 00:10:44.720 --> 00:10:50.200 how complicated and how mysterious this island is going to be. 165 00:10:50.279 --> 00:10:54.080 March fifteenth, through twenty third. I wanted to ask just 166 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.840 a brief question or two because I obviously have never 167 00:10:56.879 --> 00:10:59.399 been there. I'm really excited to be a part of this. 168 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.759 It was a highlight talk about the moi. There's a 169 00:11:02.840 --> 00:11:03.960 number of them, aren't there. 170 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:10.399 There are so many moi there, it's outrageous. You see 171 00:11:10.440 --> 00:11:13.200 from coffee table books that there's lines of them, but 172 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:17.080 in point of fact, there's over one thousand moi and 173 00:11:17.120 --> 00:11:20.919 they're spread all over the island. They're where ancient villages 174 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:23.240 used to be. So we're going to go visit a 175 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:26.759 bunch of those. There's also the quarry. There's one quarry 176 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:29.000 where almost all of them were made, and a lot 177 00:11:29.039 --> 00:11:32.120 of them are still half made lying in the quarry. 178 00:11:32.159 --> 00:11:35.919 That thing is just a sight to see how grew up. 179 00:11:35.879 --> 00:11:39.240 Briefly and I didn't realize they have an observatory there. 180 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:42.080 Is it a planetarium or is it more of a 181 00:11:42.919 --> 00:11:44.919 setup for evening sites. 182 00:11:46.120 --> 00:11:49.559 It's a planetarium. It's a passion project by a man 183 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:54.120 named EDMUNDO. Edwards who's been studying the archaeo astronomy of 184 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.679 the island for his entire life, I think almost fifty 185 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:01.399 years now. He knows more than anyone, and he put 186 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.960 together this planetarium to share this lifetime of knowledge with 187 00:12:06.080 --> 00:12:07.679 the visitors to come to the place. 188 00:12:08.039 --> 00:12:11.840 Fantastic. So March fifteenth to the twenty third, that is 189 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:15.759 a week, and it sounds like we've really packed a 190 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.039 lot in during those seven days, right. 191 00:12:18.600 --> 00:12:21.799 I tell you, For an island that's only twelve miles across, 192 00:12:21.879 --> 00:12:24.080 there is an endless amount of things to see there. 193 00:12:24.759 --> 00:12:27.480 Looking forward to it fantastic all right. For more information, 194 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:31.440 you go to earthncients dot com forward slash tours, look 195 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:33.879 for the photo of Ed standing next to one of 196 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:37.639 the big Mai sculptures, and registered as soon as you can. 197 00:12:37.919 --> 00:12:40.320 I want to let you know that we are now 198 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:44.279 looking at being fairly full. The maximum we're going to 199 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:47.600 take us thirty people, so we might be be getting 200 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:51.840 really close to that. So again, go to earthncients dot 201 00:12:51.879 --> 00:13:30.279 com forward slash tours. Thanks Ed, Thank you, Cliff. So 202 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:36.080 we're continuing our look at biohacking, which is changing your chemistry, 203 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:42.320 your physiology through science and through experimentation. I don't like 204 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:45.919 that last part too much, the experimentation, but I am 205 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:49.080 going to do my best to help you listeners get 206 00:13:49.120 --> 00:13:52.200 a sense of where you can go outside of the 207 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:58.480 allopathic method or the practice, and I will present as 208 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:04.679 many individuals and therapies as possible that you can use 209 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:08.480 to change the way things are happening. If you're not 210 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:11.600 in great health, if you're in poor health, if you're okay, 211 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:15.360 everything that I'm submitting, everything that you'll be listening to, 212 00:14:16.320 --> 00:14:21.799 will be ways for you to change your state of wellness. 213 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:25.919 So the first person today is Brian Richards. Brian is 214 00:14:26.080 --> 00:14:30.519 a founder. He's an entrepreneur I would consider a sauna space. 215 00:14:31.080 --> 00:14:34.720 He's in Missouri and he's been doing this for a while. 216 00:14:34.759 --> 00:14:37.759 We're going to learn about not only what saunas are 217 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.960 all about, but there's a technology he incorporates that is 218 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:45.679 not traditional in his saunas that is very very cool. 219 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.639 So Brian, welcome to Destiny. Great to see you. 220 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:50.159 Thank you for having me, Kliff. 221 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:55.200 Let's talk about saunas for a minute. Traditionally, I have 222 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:58.919 heard of sweat lodges where you go in and they 223 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.399 have a fire, or where I'm here in the East 224 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:05.039 Bay of the San Francisco Bay Area in Berkeley, we 225 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:08.320 have a sauna where they take and they heat up 226 00:15:08.480 --> 00:15:14.600 stones and it's hot enough that you begin sweating in 227 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:20.600 these little woodline boxes. But traditionally the sauna is for 228 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:23.559 sweaty But what else do we learn when we sweat? 229 00:15:23.600 --> 00:15:25.120 What else do we know about sweating? 230 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:28.960 Well, we know a lot of things based on research 231 00:15:29.120 --> 00:15:32.879 that's been conducted in the last few decades. So of 232 00:15:32.879 --> 00:15:36.840 course our ancestors understood this, and you see sauna as 233 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:41.240 like a tradition in almost every human culture, and there 234 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:44.440 are many different types of suna, and also nowadays in 235 00:15:44.480 --> 00:15:47.399 the modern area, there are so many more. It all 236 00:15:47.440 --> 00:15:51.120 comes back to basically doing two things. 237 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:51.519 Cliff. 238 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:55.200 You're trying to raise your core temperature by about three 239 00:15:55.200 --> 00:16:00.679 degrees so it sustained increasing core temperature that's held. And 240 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:05.480 then you want to provoke profound sweating, so like you know, 241 00:16:05.559 --> 00:16:08.799 like a pound of water even you know, you want 242 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:11.320 to sweat ideally in a sauna session. And what we 243 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:17.080 see in the recent research is that sauna, if you 244 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:21.320 do that, sauna increases your health span, So it increases 245 00:16:21.399 --> 00:16:25.200 your risk or excuse me, it increases your the years 246 00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:27.840 of your life that you're healthy. Another way of saying 247 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:30.720 that is it reduces your risk of dying of all 248 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:32.720 things non trauma related. 249 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:34.720 So it's pretty cool. 250 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.000 It's not just for like one problem or another in 251 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.519 the in the health world, you know, no matter where 252 00:16:39.559 --> 00:16:42.639 you're at and what you're dealing with, sauna is going 253 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:47.960 to help you. And so I'm referring to what's now 254 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:51.080 like over twenty year study approaching thirty year study of 255 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:56.799 thousands of finished mails where they were tracking cardiovascular disease 256 00:16:56.840 --> 00:16:59.159 and heart attacks, and they found that that was the 257 00:16:59.159 --> 00:17:01.200 case if you did some sauna a week, just one 258 00:17:01.240 --> 00:17:03.639 sauna on a week, and in each sauna session you 259 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.319 want to raise core temperature three degrees fairynheight and sweat 260 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:09.079 out one pound of water. But what they also found 261 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:13.359 was that if you increase your frequency from one to 262 00:17:13.359 --> 00:17:17.039 three days a week, you reduced your all cosmortality another 263 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:20.000 like thirty percent or more. Is this huge increase, So 264 00:17:20.039 --> 00:17:24.880 the more sauna per week is actually even better. And 265 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:28.559 that study and some other studies have also been going on. 266 00:17:28.599 --> 00:17:31.880 That study in particular continued where over the next five 267 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:35.319 to seven years with the same test group, they looked 268 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:38.640 at dementia outcomes and they found the exact same thing 269 00:17:38.720 --> 00:17:43.160 that sauna. Frequent sauna use reduces your risk of dementia, 270 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:46.200 and the more you use it, the better. Ideally something 271 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.839 like three times a week. So when we use sauna, 272 00:17:49.480 --> 00:17:56.920 we're increasing our healthspen and we're making sure our brain works, 273 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:01.440 you know, well into the later years. And so yeah, 274 00:18:01.440 --> 00:18:04.240 we can talk definitely about the cellular science of like 275 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:05.039 why that is. 276 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:08.119 But let's talk a little bit about this study that 277 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:13.480 you discovered in Finland. These cardiac patients. What did they 278 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:17.839 say was the reason for their heart healing? Was it 279 00:18:17.880 --> 00:18:22.799 because the effects of sona is a detox you're sweating 280 00:18:23.359 --> 00:18:27.559 impurities out or was there something that was more directed 281 00:18:27.599 --> 00:18:29.240 at the heart healing. 282 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:34.599 Yeah, there are basically two things going on that that 283 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:37.559 bring these these outcomes to the whole body, to the 284 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:40.160 whole person. And one is as you said, it's detox. 285 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:43.680 So we're removing poisons from the cells and the body. 286 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:46.759 The body is designed to detox from the inside out, 287 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:50.759 not really from the outside d So there are ways 288 00:18:50.799 --> 00:18:52.480 to detox from sort of. 289 00:18:52.400 --> 00:18:53.119 The outside in. 290 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:55.759 You can take uh, you know, you can do like 291 00:18:55.839 --> 00:18:58.319 colonics and you can take you can do juice cleanses 292 00:18:58.400 --> 00:19:00.759 and things like that. But then the mental way that 293 00:19:00.799 --> 00:19:03.640 you go into every cell of the body, the deepest 294 00:19:03.720 --> 00:19:07.079 organs of the body and you remove poisons and toxes 295 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:11.279 for them is with heat, and it's because when you 296 00:19:11.279 --> 00:19:13.920 heat up the cell by three degrees for a period 297 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:16.359 of minutes, of produces what's called a heat shock protein. 298 00:19:17.200 --> 00:19:19.480 These are not normally there. You have to heat up 299 00:19:19.480 --> 00:19:21.240 the cell quite a bit for quite a while to 300 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:23.880 do that. When you do that, these heat shock proteins 301 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:26.519 are produced by the cell and they help make cell 302 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:30.319 detox more efficient and really effective. But they also do 303 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:34.279 another thing. They also refold misfolded proteins and move them 304 00:19:34.319 --> 00:19:38.559 around in the cell, and that has a cellular rejuvenation, 305 00:19:38.720 --> 00:19:42.000 a cellular reoptimization effect. So we're not just cleaning up 306 00:19:42.039 --> 00:19:46.440 the cell with detox, we're also fixing how the proteins work. 307 00:19:46.440 --> 00:19:48.599 And the proteins in the body are like the line. 308 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:49.160 Workers in the body. 309 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.119 They're doing all of the hard work, and they're very 310 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.440 complicated structures. If you've looked at them ever, you know, 311 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:59.480 in biology class or something. They're these very complicated structures 312 00:19:59.480 --> 00:20:03.920 that are supposed fit lock and key, like a lock 313 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:06.279 in a keyhole with each other, and that's how they 314 00:20:06.279 --> 00:20:09.720 talk and communicate and do their jobs. But most you know, 315 00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:13.039 probably like twenty or thirty percent of the proteins. As 316 00:20:13.079 --> 00:20:15.200 soon as they're made by the ribosome and the cell, 317 00:20:15.240 --> 00:20:18.440 they're already misfolded, so they're already not able to do. 318 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:19.519 Their job perfectly well. 319 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:22.720 But when the heat shock proteins are produced, they go 320 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:25.720 in and they refold them, make them beautiful again, and 321 00:20:25.759 --> 00:20:29.279 get them working perfectly. So when we do sauna in 322 00:20:29.359 --> 00:20:33.000 every cell of the body, we cleanse the cell and 323 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:37.559 we re optimize cellular function. So in this study, they 324 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:42.359 were looking at cardiac disease and heart attack, and they 325 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:46.960 saw that the risks of these two things went down dramatically. 326 00:20:47.680 --> 00:20:51.319 But if you look at other areas of research into 327 00:20:51.319 --> 00:20:54.880 s there's so many studies now thousands, really, you see 328 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:59.559 a general reduction and risk of disease. So that's why 329 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:01.160 we can kind of set back and say, look, it's 330 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:05.559 actually a reduction in all causes of mortality you know 331 00:21:05.599 --> 00:21:08.119 that are not trauma related, all disease types. You know, 332 00:21:08.319 --> 00:21:10.720 everything is getting better when we do sauna. And that's 333 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:14.559 because it's not just affecting the heart or the blood vessels. 334 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:17.440 It's affecting literally every cell of the body and making 335 00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:20.519 it work better and purifying it. And if we step 336 00:21:20.559 --> 00:21:23.880 back out of the allopathic model and into more of 337 00:21:24.039 --> 00:21:29.519 the functional medicine wellness model. We start to understand that 338 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:35.519 we're not deficient in drugs as like the cause of 339 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:39.319 our illness or not being well. The body is this perfect, 340 00:21:40.079 --> 00:21:47.880 perfectly divinely designed system that has unlimited healing power inside 341 00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:50.200 of it. It just needs these like really simple things 342 00:21:50.200 --> 00:21:54.680 from nature to work really well. So disease or wellness 343 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:58.920 is much better described as a harmony or disharmony in 344 00:21:58.960 --> 00:22:02.000 the internal environment and also in the external environment. And 345 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:05.160 in terms of the internal environment, if there's a bunch 346 00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:07.279 of gun clogging out the cells, they just don't work 347 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.519 well and they cause and there's as there's damage that 348 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:13.880 the cell devolves and degenerates and doesn't work well. So 349 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.839 with sauna we're improving all of the functions of the 350 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:22.240 cell in a sense, and we're also you know, purifying 351 00:22:22.240 --> 00:22:24.880 the temple so things work really well. No, no different 352 00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:27.119 than a car and you can't just fuel it up. 353 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:32.079 What are we're talking about in terms of a therapeutic approach. 354 00:22:32.119 --> 00:22:37.799 Are we saying general wellness somebody who's okay, doesn't have 355 00:22:37.839 --> 00:22:41.279 a chronic illness should do it once a week, once 356 00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:47.119 every two weeks. What is a maintenance for for general wellness. 357 00:22:47.640 --> 00:22:51.680 And then on the same note, somebody who's perhaps chronically ill, 358 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:58.720 has arthritis, has a degenerative condition, what's the story for them. 359 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:00.920 Yeah, they which is actually the same. 360 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:03.680 So I have been using my product for over ten 361 00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:05.440 years and I still use it three or four days 362 00:23:05.480 --> 00:23:10.480 a week when I'm on the home front. The challenge 363 00:23:10.519 --> 00:23:13.039 is that we live in a really, really toxic world 364 00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:16.039 nowadays that our ancestors didn't even really deal with. They 365 00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:19.079 understood sauna was not just a luxury. It's this really 366 00:23:19.119 --> 00:23:23.279 powerful tool for wellness and also for like brain health 367 00:23:23.319 --> 00:23:27.200 and for like calming the nervous system, and it has 368 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:30.160 so many other effects beyond just making yourselves work well. 369 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:35.400 But nowadays it becomes not just a luxury but really essential. 370 00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:39.359 We're exposed to so many things due to modern technology 371 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:44.119 and poor quality water and poor quality food that we 372 00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:49.759 need to constantly detox. We need to constantly be proactive 373 00:23:49.799 --> 00:23:52.079 and on the leading edge of keeping our bodies clean, 374 00:23:52.920 --> 00:23:55.160 and there is no more effective way to do that 375 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:58.599 than sauna. So if you're sick or if you're well, 376 00:23:59.519 --> 00:24:02.880 you're going to benefit from using a sauna. So like 377 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:07.519 if you if you are really if you're if you're 378 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.640 dealing with a lot of issues, you're going to see 379 00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:15.039 really amazing improvement. If you're already really healthy and really optimized, 380 00:24:16.000 --> 00:24:18.599 when you go into the sauna, you'll benefit more from 381 00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:26.440 the the like improve cognitive function and improve sleep, and 382 00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:30.640 improve function of your cardiovascular system. And for me, yeah, 383 00:24:30.720 --> 00:24:36.359 definitely being pretty healthy. There's a noticeable difference after I 384 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:39.400 use a song in the morning or my brain function, 385 00:24:39.799 --> 00:24:43.480 Like I'm just I'm more zen, more grounded, I'm more present, 386 00:24:44.599 --> 00:24:48.880 I have more more energy, And you know that effects. 387 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.200 It influences everything you do, whether you're an athlete and 388 00:24:51.240 --> 00:24:55.880 you're into performance optimization, or you're trying to recover, you know, 389 00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.240 after a work app or you're just like most people 390 00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:03.680 just kind of stress out and and you are trying 391 00:25:03.680 --> 00:25:05.559 to relax your nervous system, get it out of this 392 00:25:05.599 --> 00:25:07.240 fight or flight state and into. 393 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:09.160 A rest and digest and heal state. 394 00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:14.279 So even uh, you know, people who are really taking 395 00:25:14.319 --> 00:25:16.240 care of their health, most of them are using some 396 00:25:16.319 --> 00:25:16.960 kind of sauna. 397 00:25:17.839 --> 00:25:22.519 That's amazing. I think in the beginning you said sweat out, 398 00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:24.359 was it a quart of water? 399 00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:27.000 Every sound of water a pound? 400 00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:29.480 How do you gauge a pound of water? Is it just? 401 00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:34.160